Reactions to Bad Bunny Being the 2026 Halftime Performer - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio: Reactions to Bad Bunny Being the 2026 Halftime Performer

Date: September 30, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Clancy (KFC), Feitelberg, Dave Portnoy, Pavs, Jackie, Jack

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Overview

In this candid episode of KFC Radio, the crew dives headfirst into sports heartbreak, cultural self-reflection, and—as the centerpiece—the polarizing announcement that Bad Bunny will headline the 2026 Super Bowl Halftime Show. In true KFC Radio fashion, the conversation veers between deeply personal sports trauma, existential musings about fandom, masculinity, and modern life, with side journeys into movie culture, candy connoisseurship, and the decline of overanalyzed entertainment.

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Main Theme and Purpose

Main Theme:
Exploring the emotional aftermath of sports fandom—particularly as Mets fans—and examining the broader cultural impact of Bad Bunny being chosen as the Super Bowl Halftime performer, as a launching point for discussions about identity, modern masculinity, internet culture, and generational shifts in entertainment. The hosts weave in listener stories, personal anecdotes, and sharp humor, making for an episode that is as much about self-interrogation as it is about pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sports Loss and Masculinity: The Mets Collapse

• Opening: Emotional Fallout
  The hosts discuss the brutal end of the Mets’ season, detailing how sports losses affect their identity, mental health, and day-to-day lives (04:58–10:38).

  • KFC admits, “When you have a project or kids or a job or something, that's like, okay, well, I have to be an adult here... It makes it a little bit, again, not easier, but it's just like, okay, I have to do this.” (05:56)
  • Dave: “The greatest lesson I ever learned in life is just, you still gotta go to work tomorrow.” (06:00)

• Why Does It Hurt So Much?
  KFC contemplates writing a book on “why are we like this?” regarding irrational sports devotion (08:04–10:09).

  • “It's something that needs to be studied by science.” (08:05)
  • The group discusses “little brother syndrome”: Mets fans always under the thumb of Yankees fans, shaping their worldview and confidence (20:54–22:29).

• Loss As Existential Metaphor
  Losing in sports triggers existential “meta” sadness:

  • KFC: “It just makes me spiral in this bigger, more ridiculous, but I think true sense of, like, this is what happens to you in your life.” (15:34)

2. Generational Masculinity, Emotions, and Why We Watch

• The Autistic Sports Fan Theory
  The group half-jokingly compares extreme sports fandom and stat-obsession to autism, saying modern male sports fans may use sports as an emotional outlet (25:30–33:14).

  • “As I've gotten older again, I've realized that, like, older sports fans, at least at this company, are just all autistic.” — Dave (25:57)
  • Jackie argues, “You guys are just backed up emotionally.” (32:25)
  • “Men are, are like, emotionally, like, you know, stunted. ...There's too much on men's plate.” — KFC (32:43, 32:58)

• Analytics vs. Vibes in Sports
  Complaints about sports being ruined by analytics and overanalysis:

  • Dave: “Every sport got worse when we started having more than three stats.” (34:08)
  • KFC: “Sports, Moneyball—all these little things that don’t actually tangibly matter in life, at least to a man ... but they do, they really matter.” (35:45)

3. Listener Analogies: Relationships & Fandom

• Is Sports Suffering Like Relationship Longing?
  KFC wonders if the female equivalent of sports heartbreak is longing for a boyfriend, sparking a funny, partially serious group debate (23:12–25:40).

  • Jackie: “I think that that's really sexist.” (23:38)
  • Jack: “Girls don’t want boyfriends anymore?” (23:57)

• Why The Mets Are Uniquely Hated
  The hosts reflect on the perception that the Mets are more hated than other “loser” teams, and whether that's true outside of their own “mentions” (38:55–39:05).

4. Bad Bunny and the Super Bowl: Culture War or Progress?

• The Announcement and Predicted Backlash (45:18–51:18)

  • KFC predicts a cultural firestorm when “middle America” realizes Bad Bunny’s set will be in Spanish:
    • “That is more logical than picking a guy who doesn’t sing songs in English.” (45:18)
    • “If you don’t think that people are going to get upset about that, being like, ‘It’s America, speak English out on our field...’ you’re crazy.” (46:27)
  • Dave raises: “Has there been any actual backlash?” and muses that outrage is often social media–manufactured.
  • The hosts dig into who halftime shows are really for, suggesting it’s a “girls’ thing” and not aimed at football diehards.

• Broader Significance & Audience Disconnect

  • Dave: “I’ve never been in a party… where people like, ‘shut the fuck up, the halftime show’s on!’” (47:47)
  • KFC: “It definitely has like a cultural significance now that’s way more than what it actually is.” (49:06)

5. Movies, Streaming, and Cultural Consumption

• Theater vs. Streaming Debate (56:22–67:32)

  • The group reviews a new Leo DiCaprio/Del Toro movie, arguing about why seeing a movie in theaters is unique. Dave likens it to dining in at a restaurant vs. takeout (58:18).
  • Complaints about platforms advertising movies that aren’t yet available on streaming (62:37).

• Are We Overanalyzing Everything?
  The hosts tie over-analysis to declining enjoyment in sports, comedy, and movies:

  • “Everything you love is dying because everyone’s getting too nerdy about everything.” – Dave (103:44)

• Nostalgia, Popcorn Smell & Audience Shifts

  • Suggestions to pump popcorn aroma outside theaters to lure in viewers (69:01–71:34).
  • Younger people might be rediscovering movies as a sober social activity (70:15–70:35).

6. The Decline of Internet Culture & Opinions

• Social Media, Insignificance, and Confidence
  The hosts reflect on confidence coming from understanding one’s insignificance online and the value of admitting when you’re wrong (87:09–94:21).
  • Dave: “I don’t ever think I’m sharing my opinion... The other side’s right too.” (93:34)
  • KFC: “It really comes down to the confidence to do so. ...when you realize your insignificance is when you can kind of relax.” (96:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sports Fan Pain:
  “It just makes me spiral in this bigger, more ridiculous, but I think true sense of, like, this is what happens to you in your life. Like, this is how it goes.”
  — KFC (15:34)

• On Male Emotional Health:
  “Men are, are like, emotionally, like, you know, stunted... The one thing that we need our release is the sports thing. And if it’s not happening, we just go crazy.”
  — KFC (32:43, 32:58)

• On Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl:
  “People are going to go berserk over that. ...When the general America finds out that he’s going to sing songs that don’t have English, I think people are going to lose their mind.”
  — KFC (45:46)

• On Analytics Ruining Sports:
  “Every sport got worse when we started having more than three stats.”
  — Dave Portnoy (34:08)

• On Social Media & Opinions:
  “Once you realize your insignificance is when you can kind of relax.”
  — KFC (96:07)

• On Comedy’s New Landscape:
  “Comedy kind of had its peak and it’s kind of been on the down, I think. ... It feels like people have stopped talking about comedy as much as they used to.”
  — Dave Portnoy (102:41)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Mets Fandom & Adulting: 04:58–10:38
• Psychology of Fandom & Little Brother Syndrome: 20:54–22:29
• Autism Analogy & Sports Analytics: 25:30–35:00
• Bad Bunny Halftime Show Reaction: 45:18–51:18
• Theater vs. Streaming & Movie Consumption: 56:22–67:32
• Internet Addiction & Confidence: 87:09–96:07
• Comedy: Jordan Tenson Special & Industry Trends: 102:01–103:24
• Overanalyzing Culture, Everything’s “Dying”: 103:25–103:44

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Tone and Style

The conversation is as irreverent, confessional, and self-deprecating as always; the guys reflect on their deepest failings and cultural criticisms with honesty, irony, and a heavy dose of self-aware humor.

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Episode Summary Takeaway

Though triggered by the announcement of Bad Bunny for the Halftime Show, this episode is more about identity and modern culture than football. It’s a tapestry of worries, nostalgia, modern male confusion, and the inexorable march of overanalysis in sports and entertainment. The guys question whether anything still matters, ultimately encouraging listeners to chill out, embrace their insignificance, and find joy in small ways—whether in the perfect candy bag, a communal movie, or simply rooting for their team to finally come through.

Transcript

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

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[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I put on all my meds gear to go to school. Being like, you know, I go down with the ship like you guys. Oh, and, and some guy told me he was gonna my girlfriend in the ass. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the barstool sports network. The whole gang together. Is that. Is mascots done? Are you finished with the work?

[Pavs]

No, we're still editing.

[Dave Portnoy]

But there's like, no, There must be.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A reason why he's back.

[Dave Portnoy]

We've both postponed it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's postponed next week.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To be honest, I, I, I feel like I saw that coming.

[Dave Portnoy]

It, it's been coming for like five weeks. The fact that, the fact that's even still, the fact that it was this far, right. Like, like after week three, I was like, that kid's in a tough.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I mean it's better. I'm sure you agonized over it, but I think it's better to just be like, I need another, another week or whatever it is. Like, make it right. People will survive.

[Pavs]

The walls were closing in on me.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was like, I can't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm in a bad place.

[Dave Portnoy]

They were like, like, I honestly, I think it was after episode three, episode four, where I like, I was like, hey, really, how are you doing? He's like, I'm fine, I'm fine. I was like, really? You don't look it, dude.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I live, I pretty much live my life except exclusively like that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like with all decisions and all things where it's just like, I don't know how I'm gonna pull this off. It's a horrible way to live. But there is part of me that like, it's like you're living on the edge. And it's kind of like, can I get it done? Yeah, you're not, you're certainly not comfortable and you're not enjoying yourself. But if you do pull it off, you're like, holy, I pulled it off.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would say that like in my position right now, like, it, it kind of feels like, I don't know, just like a regular citizen in New York where it's like, yeah, I don't know. The Avengers were supposed to fix like, I don't know. Yeah. What do you want me to do about it? Iron man the superhero should handle it. Dude. I. I'm a delivery guy. What you want me to do on this thing?

[Jackie]

I can't believe that you went on tour. Like on top of that tour is.

[Pavs]

What really it up. We were, we were on good pace and then tour was just like. Cuz tour isn't just one night. I know it's a one show but it's like day of travel, day travel, day of this, you know, planet and do.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. So I always got it.

[Dave Portnoy]

If we could redo it again. The tour was a very silly idea to tour it during. Yeah. But also I love doing the tour and I want to keep doing and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I do think it helps.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, but it like to do it during was crazy. I don't know what we were. That was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But you're not editing. I can do it. You guys can do it?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's do it, guys. That is exactly what it is. You know, speak up and tell us to shut.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That is. That's another thing that you know, can apply to everybody in the world. Even if you're not editing a TV show, people love to write checks that other people have to cash. Like, you don't know what I do.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I. And you don't know and I don't know what you do. And like you need to be respectful of that. It's like, oh well my job's done. You'll get yours done. Right? It's like ours are wildly different.

[Jackie]

At one point he was like editing and I, I had like, was scrolling and I saw like somebody had a tattoo that looked like a penis. And so I like tapped him and.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was like, man, look at this penis looking tattoo.

[Jackie]

Was so deep in the editing hole and like was so locked in.

[Pavs]

He not really been for like three days straight. I like turned around.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What was that?

[Pavs]

Bring that on my desk.

[Jack]

I was like, sorry.

[Jackie]

I was like, carry on, bro.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There were so many times over the last like couple months where some of the guys would be like, hey Pavs, can you like create a graphic for this episode of the Mets podcast or like our watch party? And I was like, that's like 1 million Douglas of what Patch needs to be worrying about.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was saying the other night in Chicago, I was like standing next to him right before the show started. And like sometimes you just kind of make conversation. And I almost asked him like, so.

[Pavs]

You check out Black Rabbit yet?

[Dave Portnoy]

I've checked out one show ours. Have you? Hey, just. Just wondering, have you had a moment of personal time?

[Pavs]

It's been nice to like miss the Mets collapse throughout all this. I can't lie. Like, I kind of missed all of it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I will say that being an adult and or like having responsibility, it makes it not easier but just like it's a non negotiable that you have to keep going. You can't let sports. I remember when the. It's not even my team. I remember when the Yankees beat The Red Sox in 03. The Wakefield. The Aaron Boone home run. I. The next day I canceled everything. I mean, it's just college, but like at the time, that's what's important to you.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I didn't go to any classes. I didn't do any. I. The whole day I was like, I'm done. And I just sat in my bed and like stared at the ceiling. Like just a depressed piece of. And, and. And when you're like, when you're a kid and all you do, you watch 162 games and it just like, you, you. And you don't have any reason to like pull you out of the depression. You're just like, I'm just gonna be in this depressed hole over a baseball game. But when you have a project or kids or a job or something, that's like, okay, well, I have to be an adult here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Makes it a little bit. Again, not easier, but it's just like, okay, I have to do this.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. I think the, the greatest lesson I ever learned in life is just, you still gotta go to work tomorrow.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yep.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, no matter what happens.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yep.

[Dave Portnoy]

You have to go work tomorrow. And it's like nothing, Nothing that will happen in your life from like, unless.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You like a death.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's about it. Trillionaire lot. Like, they're probably five days in your life where something either amazing or horrible won't happen to you. And the end result is I gotta go to work tomorrow. Yep. Like there's very few massive, massive events. Everything else. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And not only is that out of the sense of like, duty and responsibility, where it's like, somebody's paying me or somebody's counting on me and I have to. That's one reason. But also, you should go because it will get you out of your dumb sports depression. Like, I just, I can't just sit here and replay the med season in my head because I have to edit my show or do the podcast or whatever. Yeah, it's like the more you do in life, the less you can hyper fixate on, like, one thing. Same thing. It's like if you're upset with, like, you don't have a relationship in your life. It's like you can sit there and focus on like, that all the time or you can go live life. You don't like your job. Like, you can just be shitty about it all every day or you can go do other stuff that gets your mind off of it or whatever, you know? But sports is, Sports is the worst.

[Dave Portnoy]

You had such a, a tonal. Everything's going to be great. And then anyway, topic we have to talk about.

[Pavs]

I started listing things last night that, like, are good about my life. That's how down I was. I made a long list of all.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The things that I'm like, I'm pretty blessed. I was like, I have amazing kids, I have an amazing job. I'm like, as I'm doing my video, I'm like, walking around this property that granted, the house is a nightmare, but it's like these, these are, these are like, I have amazing friends. I have a great family. I have like, all of the things that are such a blessing that other people would kill for. And I just take them all for granted because there's this one little silly thing I want and I can't get. I, I, I actually, I don't know the answer yet. And I don't even know if I want to do it right here because I think I need to, like, take time and figure it out. I want to make a video. I want to, like, diagnose myself, write a blog, write a book. Right. Like, why am I this way? And thereby why is everybody else this way?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it's such a crazy thing and such a crazy way to be and behave that I think it needs to be, like, studied by science. Why are we this way?

[Jackie]

Like, it's so crazy that you, like, just stop having, like, just give it up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, there is that, but that's part of it. Like, like, it's something so weird that first of all, you have no control over it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You cannot Help it or make it worse in any way. You're just relying upon other people to do this very silly, weird thing, knock a ball around and run around on the field, and you put, like, all of your happiness into it. But, like, I think. I think there's something there. At least I know for me, I think there's something. It's representative. You know what I mean? It's like, I. I think for me, where I wanted to start, my little, like, psychological trip is like, I think living in Yankee territory. Me, like, it made me, you know.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because then. And I think even at barstool, it became like, I'm from New York. You guys are Boston. You win, I lose. And it was like this thing that I need to achieve or overcome, you know?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And it was like that in school, and it's like that in my adult life. So I think, like, inherently, that's where at least my issues come from. And then I think there's a million more. It's like, it's something that my family does, and it's something like. Like, actually growing up, I didn't have a lot of Mets fans, friends, so it was only, like, me and a couple people. So then that makes it weird. I don't know. There's just a million factors that I'm like, why am I this weird?

[Dave Portnoy]

This is very interesting, isn't it?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. It's interesting figuring out, why do I work like this. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, what happened was I said to myself, if I didn't work at barstool, would I still be this way? Because I think a big part of it is, like, it. You do better at work.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You get more attention and you. And it's considered, like, a win. Like, I think there are people at the company and the fans who, like, if you root for loser teams, you are a loser as a. As a person. It's like, wait, no, that's not me.

[Dave Portnoy]

Wait.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like. It's just. My team is bad, but I think people act, and if you're a winner, if your teams win, you're like, that guy wins. It's like, none of this is actually who we are as people, but I think that it. It feels that way.

[Dave Portnoy]

You said that before, and that. That stuck with me. That was something where I was like, you've said, like, dave thinks I'm a loser because my teams lose. And I always remember that because I was like, I think he's right, and that's insane. But I think I might. They might be right now, like, when it Happened again. So. So let me take you through my yesterday, because I've noticed this in life. Like, I've noticed just that, like, as I get older, everything is just the same. Like, it's just the same. There.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's a big part of it for me, too.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, life is the same.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, this is. Yeah, I, I mean it positively. I mean it positives. Like, then you get better at it because you're like, oh. Like, you're like, oh, I've already done this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, that part.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, so you, like, you start seeing patterns and you're like, I've already done this. I know how to beat this level now. And with sports yesterday in particular, I was just like, oh, it's happening again. Pats are good, Red Sox are good. Mets stink, jets stink, Bears stink. I was like, I was like, it's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just time is a flat surface.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's happening again.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's just, it's going on again. And like, I think that happens a lot with life where you just go, oh, we've done this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yep.

[Dave Portnoy]

I know how this goes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, that it helps in the sense of, like, I can't, like, I can't like, cry or punch a wall or flip out because, like, this is just life.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Right. You know, it would be like if.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

In the morning, John came in here in like a fit of rage, having a meltdown, and he was like, I fucking ate in my sleep last night, man. Just like, yeah, we know. That's what you do.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's who you are.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why are you getting so bent out of shape? That's where I'm at as a sports fan, where it's like, I, I still, still don't. I'm sure you wish you, you didn't need a brownie at night or whatever, but you did. And that's just how it is. I'm still upset that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Might as well enjoy it, guys. It's gonna keep happening.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's where I used to try to think, like, and, And I. So, you know, sometimes I just wish I was more of a gambler because I'm like, I think I would just be making a lot of money because I think I would just know to bet against this team.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, I recently decided I'm a great gambler. Come on. Like, I'm on like a four day hot streak. I don't know why everyone's not doing this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'll tell you why. Because, because you're a winner, but it's just in your bones. And I. And I think there's also A part of me that maybe. Maybe you're right and that it. This is. It's not silly. And maybe it is all connected, but I'm pretty sure it's silly. But I also know that I. I think this way is, like, when I mess up something in real life, I'm like, this is because I'm a loser. Like, it's because.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's because my New York. Yeah. Because I stopped Kiss.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's just something that is like. I think it's a little bit like I'm destined to. At the very least, like, it's going to be hard for me. Like, I. I associate it all in sports and my life, personal life, my work life, everything. It's like there are people that things just work out for, it seems like. And I'm sure if you really got to know those people and they told you their whole life story, they go through too. Yeah, they have their own problems. Everybody has their own problems. But there are also. It's just like, yeah, no, you're gonna win that bet, or the business decision goes the right way, or your personal life just works out or whatever, you know, and then there are people. It doesn't. And I think that it's all related. I think that it's all related in my blood and, like, the person I am because of sports.

[Dave Portnoy]

All adults.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know. I don't know if it's chicken or the egg. Like, what is it? But all I know is that it's more than just this team and what I watch at night. It, like, affects who we are as people. When you.

[Jackie]

When you lose, are you, like, is it a legitimate sadness or is it, like, a sadness that, you know, it actually doesn't really. Like, is it the same sadness as, like, if you were to break up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is why I want to, like, write this book or go through this so I can, like, figure it out. Because when it happens, like, on a literal level, by the way, we didn't really explain this to. People aren't like, baseball fans. The Mets missed the playoffs on the final game of the year. All they needed to do was win a game, and they couldn't do it. And they should have been.

[Dave Portnoy]

That was a win. And in.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, no, they needed the. Even worse. They needed the Reds to lose, and they did.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, I didn't realize that the brewers.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Were playing the Reds. The brewers had nothing to play for. The Reds had everything to play for in. In any other world. It's like, the Reds are going to win that game.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I spoke to Yellich earlier in the day. I was like, you guys are setting everybody, aren't you? Like, we're right. He's like, no, we're actually. We're all playing today. And I was like, oh, okay. Like, and. And so. And in my head, I was like, the. And. And another wrinkle that people, if you don't really watch, don't know. We were playing the Marlins. The Marlins are actually a pretty good team this year. But in the past, no matter how bad the Marlins were, if we played them on the final weekend of the year when we needed to win, they us. It happened in 07, it happened in 8. It's like, if you play them down the stretch, they will you. So we. We all saw that. We circled it. We're like, it's going to happen again. And then it was happening again. But there was a part of me. I don't know about you, Paz. There was a part of me that was like, but we could just win this game. You know what I mean? It feels inevitable that we're going to lose, but they might just go out there and win. And then they didn't. And so I. I guess my. This is like a long winded way to say it, but it's like, so in the moment, it was so. I knew this was gonna happen. It was inevitable. It's been like a long three months of them playing bad. So actually, when it comes to baseball, I was almost like, relieved. It was like somebody dying or it's.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, okay, we pulled the plug. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And now we can go back to our regular lives. I don't have to watch every single night. I don't have to agonize every night. So the literal, like, baseball part of it, I was okay with. It just makes me spiral in this bigger, more ridiculous, but I think true sense of, like, this is what happens to you in your life. Like, this is. This is how it goes. So then I get a little, like, existential, like, metaphysical like that. And then I start, like, getting upset about that stuff, but in terms of just like, sports and baseball.

[Dave Portnoy]

Then you started getting upset at the metaphysical. Yeah. Like I'm saying, like, yeah, I was punching air pretty good.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I just mean these are, like, things that are, like, not real and tangible, but I do think they have a tangible effect on my life. It's crazy.

[Jackie]

You should do, like, a full study, being, like, what People who are most upset about sports. Did something happen in childhood?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is what I'm saying.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Okay.

[Dave Portnoy]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I want the diagnosis or even like.

[Jackie]

I always think about Harry Potter. The kids, like, the reason that they didn't all grow up like Lindsay Lohan's and shaving their head because they were childhood actors is because the casting director did a bunch of research, made sure that they all good solid family backgrounds and like, made sure they had loving parents. And so they all, even though they were like famous from a very young age, they all grew up like, fairly normal. And maybe it's something like, I have a shitty family. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm saying, like, maybe even like the losing sport. Maybe like Boston, something that you guys do with parenting just to have like winners just.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, but they were losers. Yeah. The parenting in Boston, how I was raised, is we're a bunch of goddamn losers and we'll be lose our whole lives. Really enjoy it. Yeah. Let's be honest.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The parenting in Boston just sucks in general.

[Dave Portnoy]

These are all just scumbags. Like, it was. Boston was the loot. Like, really just the Red Sox and.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They were the worst. All of them Patriots were a joke.

[Dave Portnoy]

The.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The Red Sox had a curse. Like, probably I think the most famous curse right next to the Cubs. Like, so.

[Dave Portnoy]

Celtics hadn't been good since the 80s. They'd been. They'd fallen apart. The Bruins hadn't been good since the 70s. Like my. When I was growing up, Boston was the town of losers.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I really believe that at least in a male world, since this is like mostly men dominated. Like, I really think being like, confidence is everything. And as it might be stupid, but when you're in a sports fan world with a bunch of other guys and you're the one who wins, like, you carry yourself with more confidence and happiness and like, I think infuriate you guys.

[Dave Portnoy]

We'd just be like, yeah, we don't really care till the AFC championship. You'd be like, how is that possible?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it's like, it's like if you apply to something else, it's like, it's like goodwill hunting. Like, this shit is easy for me. This thing is such a struggle for me and these guys. It'd be like if you're fat and short and you see like a tall, handsome guy, I want that and that. Then you start acting like the short fat guy. You know what I mean? I am the short, fat, ugly guy in the world of sports. So. And it's. It self fulfills.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Do you think that a more confident fan base could affect the sports?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's the other thing is in the, in this world, in the modern world where like, like, Frank Fleming harms the.

[Dave Portnoy]

New York Mets and, and absolutely does. And I genuinely think Tom Brady's existence changed the upbringing for a generation of New Englanders.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, that's not a joke. It's stupid, and it shouldn't, but it's real.

[Dave Portnoy]

Gave. Exactly. With Kevin's saying, like, and you never, like, actually felt it, but, like, yeah, you, you don't realize it until you're a winner in the world. Like, like, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I was in high school. I reference the story all the time.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I used to sound insane. It sounds crazy. That was. No, I get it.

[Jackie]

I get it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I referenced this before, and, and it's a real story. And it, and it's funny, but it also, like, for sure affected me as a person. I was in high school then the day after the Mets lost the Subway Series, they lost to the Yankees. Yeah. Which is like, the worst thing that can happen to me. I'm 15 years old, so, like, the worst thing possible. And I make a point. I put on all my meds, gear to go to school, being like, you know, I go down with the ship like you guys. Oh, and, and some guy told me he was going to my girlfriend in.

[Dave Portnoy]

The ass at 13.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

A Yankee fan was like. And he was this Italian guy. I, I, I, I make up the name, but his name was Gary Boeri. It's like Gary Boleri was like, he.

[Jackie]

Actually, he was kind of Gary Boer.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What's that?

[Jackie]

So that's epic of Gary Bo.

[Dave Portnoy]

It a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

He was kind of like, oh, wow. Like, you're wearing your gear. Like, you're not, like, you're not afraid to do that. Like, you're not a. Like, all right, cool. And then he was like, thought your girlfriend. He said her name, tell her I'm gonna put in her butt. And I was just like, well, his team just won and mine lost. So I have to accept that, you know, like, I mean, he was also, like, elementary school.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, that's the Yankees one.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like, in, in hindsight, I should have just, like, swung at that guy. He was a senior, I was a freshman. But I also am a loser, and he was a winner. So there's no way, like, and, and those things that could have been a.

[Jackie]

Turning point in your Probably.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but it was, but that was my whole life. It was like little microaggressions. That was a pretty macro aggression. Got a girlfriend in the ass. But it was like, I grew up in the Bronx Yankee fans constantly being like, you're a loser and we win and that eventually. So it's like, anytime I went to class that day or to the party or watch the game, I would be like, I'm going to get made fun of.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think all that really starts to pile up and just makes you. Without a doubt.

[Pavs]

I hate to say it, but it's the little brother syndrome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Pavs]

You see a lot of little brothers with tough older brothers. They grow up a little bit different. A lot of anxiety, really shy. And that's kind of what it is.

[Jackie]

I have that theory.

[Dave Portnoy]

That is. That's what it is. That's what it is.

[Pavs]

If the Yankees didn't exist, it wouldn't.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Be that bad in regular life.

[Dave Portnoy]

This is. I'll tell you what Yankee fans are going to love.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But also what has been. Like, my only saving grace is, like, that was the first 15 years of my life, and then the next 15 years was fine. Like, it was like, they were good, but they kept on losing, except for that one year in 09. So it was, like, a lot easier to be like, you guys suck, too. And it kind of, like, evened out a little bit. You know what I mean? So that. That's a huge part of it. But they've been. You know, they haven't won for a long enough time that it started to, like, be a little bit easier. But I. I think in real life, if you are the little brother and you have that, like, chip on your shoulder in the long run, you almost end up, like, you work harder and you try. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. But that's something you can affect. Like, when you're the little brother in baseball, it's like, they need to do it for you, and you can't.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, we'll do it for you guys. We got you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I know. So there is a part of me that's just like, all right, we ride again. My mom. My mom texted me, and she just said, like, she. She meant it kind of in a negative way, but I. I took it like, not in positive, but I was just like, this is a good mentality. She just goes, now we're left with rooting against the Yankees, as we have done for so many years in the past. When will it end? But I was like, kind of like you said, like, I've done this before. Like, this is just time to root against the Yankees.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. You know, I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Actually, my Yankee hatred has dwindled in years because they haven't won to the point that I'M like, I used to watch the Yankees as much as I watch the mess, just to root against them. Now it's like, I check the scores, I'll keep an eye on it, but like, I don't even know if I'll watch those games, but I am, like, back in rooting for the Reds. My two favorite teams has always been the Mets and whoever's playing the Yankees, the Mets and the Red Sox. Like, so, yeah, we're just back. We're back in the same hole we're always in. It's. It's hard to, like, get dramatic. It's like, you're 40, man. You've done this for 35 years and you're gonna like, flip a table and cry and scream again. Like, no, I don't have that in me anymore. I don't think it means I care less. I'm sure younger fans look at me like, oh, you're like you're fair weather. Or like, you're not as Die Hard anymore. It's like, no, I just. You'll be here too.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. If I was 18, I'd be crying and screaming, but, like, I just can't weathered. Yeah. I wonder if there is an equivalent. I always try to figure out the equivalent for guys and girls. I always think that kind of like reality TV type stuff is kind of the, The. The female sports. But there's not like an outcome or a result that you can get mad at, you know? But I wonder. Yeah, but it's like, is it like when you don't. If you really, really want a boyfriend and you don't have one?

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it kind of is. I think it kind of is.

[Jackie]

I think that that's really sexist.

[Jack]

That was kind of crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. I think when girls.

[Dave Portnoy]

I thought you were joking.

[Jack]

I thought he was making like a sexist joke.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think when girls want something, when you really want your nails done. I think girls want boyfriend so bad when they don't have one that they, like, fixate on it.

[Jack]

Girls don't want boyfriends anymore?

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

All right, maybe. Yeah. Like, I don't know about young girls. Like, in my, my experience, like in my generation, it was like if you, when you. When you were late 20s, maybe you're also not there yet. Like when you wanted to find your relationship and you can't, you're not. It's like you just fixate on it and become a part of it.

[Jack]

Actually wanted boyfriends or do you think they, like, wanted, like, the idea of a boyfriend because Then do you think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Whatever you wanted, that's what they wanted? They wanted to find a home, and.

[Jack]

They would walk around being like, I need a boyfriend.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It consume their life. It was like, all they ever wanted and talked about.

[Jackie]

It's definitely not a thing anymore. Actually, I will say that all my, like, yeah, I never, like, wanted what?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're young.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but. But even then, it's like every.

[Jack]

You do hear people say, like, oh, I want a boyfriend. And they're like, only today, though. And they, like, look around and make.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sure no one actually want my experience. It was like when you're late 20s, early 30s, there was. If you. If there was a girl, like, found their person, they were happy, and if you didn't, you were unhappy. And as much as that's something you. You can affect because it's like, your life. I think there were times where, like, if you're dating and it's not working out or whatever, it's like they just wanted it. And when you don't get it, it just spirals and snowballs and becomes, like, the thing that, you know, dominates your life.

[Jack]

I feel like now, like, you girls still want that when they're, like, very young, like 14 or 15 or, like, high school, they're like, I really want a boyfriend. And then when they're older, when they feel like they're, like, too old to not have a boyfriend. But I feel like the age range where you don't care about having a boyfriend is, like, growing, like, bigger and bigger. Do you know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there is an equivalent because it's something so silly and stupid that I mean, like. I mean, there are girl sports fans, by the way, obviously. I mean, it's pretty.

[Jack]

It's like an autism thing, right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Being a sportsman, it's.

[Jack]

It's so autistic. And I am like, I can't think of a girl's thing because I feel that way about, like, Duke basketball every year. I'm, like, on my hands and knees crying, like, praying in March. But I feel like it's autistic. Autistic and girls aren't. There's not as. Right. Like, I've noticed that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Ridiculous to be, like, this invested upset.

[Jack]

I'm not saying it's like, a bad thing, like, autism, like, whatever. I just feel like it is autism.

[Dave Portnoy]

As I've gotten older again, I've realized that, like, older sports fans, at least at this company, are just all autistic.

[Jack]

I mean, everyone is.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was thinking. I was Watching the Ryder cup on Saturday maybe, and they had like the AI graphic where it's like the chance to win. And I was like, yeah, the team that's winning has got a better shot to win. I, I, I figured as much. And, and then I just started thinking about sports as a whole. And I was remembering our conversation with Lemaire where it's just like, in sports nowadays there are so many numbers and like the, they'll bring out graphics that cover the sports on the screen to show you numbers about what's gonna happen with wrc. And it's like, dude, I'm watching the game. Get the sports off the tv. Yeah, I don't need the, I'm sorry, get the numbers off the tv. I'm watching the sports. And like, everything is so number specific now in sports that I'm like, yeah, everyone's, everyone's autistic. They're not watching sports, they're doing math.

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[Dave Portnoy]

I saw them hit the shot.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I saw them throw the touchdown. That's not it. I don't want to watch baseball ever again. I just want there to be some end results that gives me happy.

[Dave Portnoy]

You just want to simulate the season.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yes. Legit. Would you not do that?

[Pavs]

Perhaps 1,000%.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't want to watch the game. Like, I don't like sports.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't think this is definitely. This is like, what? Like my friend. This is when I stopped playing video games. When my friends would be like, yeah, we just simulate the whole season.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm like, why are you doing that? Like, I thought we're playing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what you should do?

[Jackie]

You should have Adam Schefter's tweets tweet.

[Pavs]

It's only going to get worse too. Like with the, the autism in sports, the numbers and everything like that. I mean, gone are the days of the like the Rick Patino type coaches. Like for the rest of time, we are going to have nerds in front offices and coaches look at the NBA now. Who are the most successful coaches now are these data guys. Especially baseball. It all started with Moneyball. But it's going to get so much.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Worse to be like a man sport.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Throw in some chew and like get the eye test. And now hub of speeches are out in sports. Those guys in Oakland going with girlfriend's hot. He must be good. That's a real. That's a guy who gets the game.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If you told me the Mets will win the World Series next year, but you do not get to watch a single game, I would sign for that. I would actually prefer that. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I actually don't think it's autism as much as I think it's you guys like are just backed up. Like, you guys like, well, no, I think like, I cry if you show me an old person on a TikTok what works every single time. And then I. But it's like I micro, like, I get it out. I'm not like, you guys are like, backed up emotionally.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's part of it too. I think that's a big part of my psychological story. Men are, are like, emotionally, like, you.

[Jack]

Know, stunted symptom of autism, not being able to like, do your emotions and the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but I also think it's just like men.

[Jack]

I'm really on this autism thing. Like you guys are.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's too much on men's plate. It's. It's the modern man who's supposed to be like, still provide and be an old school guy. But you also have to be like new and progressive. And we have all this on our plate. The one thing that we need our release is the sports thing. And if it's not happening, we just go crazy. It might be autism.

[Jack]

Do you think, like, jocks are gonna be, like, not a thing anymore? Because it used to be like, nerds and jocks, and now all the people that are supposed to be jocks are nerds. So what's gonna happen to jocks is jocks.

[Dave Portnoy]

Jocks have been stuffed into a toy to a corner. They stuff baby in a corner. And jocks don't get no. Say no.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Imagine if you brought back like, like Mickey Manel or some. Just give me some like, drunk baseball player, right? And told him all about. All right, here's. Here's the guy running the show. Here's the analytics that people care about. By the way, like, comic book movies and Game of Thrones is like the coolest thing in the world. Like, oh, you know, like show them male feminists and nerd culture and baseball analytics. Those guys would kill.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's baseball. The biggest problem is baseball analytics that I, I think the. Wait, what was I just going to say? Every sport. This is it. This is it. This is. This is it. Every sport got worse when we stopped, when we started having more than three stats.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like batting average, rbi, home run.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, that's all you need, right? Batty average, rbi, home touchdowns, done deal.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Completion percentage, touchdown interceptions, done, done deal.

[Dave Portnoy]

Touches, carries, touchdowns, receptions, yards, touchdowns. That's all I need to understand. Goals, assists, goals, assists.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You could do maybe like saves for a goalie. I don't know. There's like one other category.

[Dave Portnoy]

There's. When, when we started talking about all these other stats is when sports got dumb. And I don't need my ex. I don't even need to know this guy's ex. Woba give me three stats, I'll know if he's good or not. And then I'll watch and I'll find out how good he is.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

After that, let's take a step further and maybe, maybe I'm wrong here because I just don't know. I feel like soccer is still pretty cool. Like, like European soccer still has like and I don't know, there's not many stats, right? Yeah, they're just like goals and wins and losses. I mean I'm sure there is other stats, but like not really.

[Dave Portnoy]

I've been a soccer fan for like eight years now. I don't know any more than three stats.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

And there maybe there are people who.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Do other chance and they have their fan sections and it's still cool and like, dude, that's it. Less stats.

[Dave Portnoy]

Every web, every sports website now is like you want to go to their stats page and it's like a bar of a hundred.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If I showed them like baseball reference, they'd be like, what is this? It looks like you're looking at like the stock market or something.

[Dave Portnoy]

You need three stats.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Every sport needs every position, right? As I'll give you every position should have three stats. No more, no less. And then we'll figure it out on the field from there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The almost. It should be a rule that you're not even allowed. Like, like GMs. Can't even look up the other ones.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, you just have to. All you can do is look at his girlfriend.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Girlfriend. Yeah, it's, it's all very stupid, but in a sense that Moneyball is kind of what we're talking about where it's like these are little things that don't actually tangibly matter in life, at least to a man. I general, you know, stereotypically speaking. But they do, they really matter.

[Jackie]

I have, I have a friend, her mom, she has like three siblings, so she's one of four. Her mom would like from a young age, whisper in their ear like when they were going to sleep, being like, you're beautiful, you're amazing, you're incredible. They're the most confident people I ever met. So I, I feel like maybe like Mets, you guys should all band together, just whisper in your kids ears a little bit.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That is part of it too though. It's like the fan base is so negative. Like there's, yeah, they never get excited or like confident or I don't know. I, I, I actually think at this stage, the fan base with social media and, and how much the media is involved. Like the media has always been bad for sports. Yeah. And then the media sees Mets fans are crazy, they're negative. And I get a lot more followers and clicks and views when I say that the Mets suck. So I'm gonna do that. And we feed them and it's this self fulfilling thing where then all of a sudden it's like, if I was a baseball player, I would never play for the Mets. Like, this is gonna be bad for me. Like, the media's gonna hate me, the fans are gonna hate me. It's thankless. Like the only bar is winning a World Series. I'm not doing this. You know, I think it's actually making things bad for the team.

[Dave Portnoy]

I have an interesting, I guess something to add to your psychological study. I think a mother sports fan changes things.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Dave Portnoy]

Because I think she probably heard you out when you were sad rather than.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Being like, shut up.

[Dave Portnoy]

My mom was like, shut the up.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, figure it out.

[Dave Portnoy]

And like, I couldn't talk to my dad because he was also, he was mad at you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

So I had to just go figure it out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. New, new sports like thing chapter in your book. You, you try to, what's it, reprogram it the other way. And you start like Yankees. You slip something into their like water system that makes them all bald. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Balding.

[Jackie]

And then they kind of get like this weird like balding complex where they're all feeling down about themselves and then ergo, you guys feel better about yourselves.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh yeah, I'm definitely on board with, let me tear other people down to prop myself up. Yeah. I'm also like that. You guys have had such a good run. Like, enough. It's, it's, it's like billionaires. If people complain about billionaires like too much, they need to redistribute the wealth. I also don't really get, I mean, I do get it. New York City, they spend a lot of money, they have high profile names that like, people are always going to hate you. But the amount of people who like hate the Mets, like, I feel like other bad teams is sort of like, you make fun of them and if they win, you're sort of like, ah, they deserve it. I feel like people are like they want the Mets to never win.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I think that is a little bit of your like, mentions.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The way I view it, I mentioned.

[Dave Portnoy]

That before and I don't feel that I always root for the Mets. I think my Friends. Like. Like the Met, I think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know what the Marlins were like. We. The Marlins juggled their rotation to us.

[Dave Portnoy]

Why?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What?

[Dave Portnoy]

Why? But I also. We have a team, the Jet.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, no one hates the.

[Dave Portnoy]

The Jets.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I know that they make fun of.

[Pavs]

They make fun of the jets kind of like, they make fun of the Browns and stuff like that. The Mets are different. There is a hatred for the Mets.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't understand what it is.

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm sure you guys feel it, but just, like, again, growing up in Boston, we always felt a kinship, like a brotherhood with the Mets. So we. Well, you know, my people, we were Mets guys.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Yeah. I was like. Met Socks was kind of like a thing, you know? I. I do. Shane Gillis has just been bullying me the whole. And, like, my phone rings, like, every time the Phillies were doing something good or the Mets were doing something bad, and he. You know, he's like, an impossible guy to, like, bully back. Because I would just, like, when the Mets were beating up the Phillies, I was like, oh, where you at now, tough guy? And he's like, baseball's gay. I don't want the sport, like, football started. Like, go watch a real sport. I can't win. But I did one night, he called me because he always calls me.

[Dave Portnoy]

He doesn't text me, calls me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm like. So I was, like, super stoned, and I wasn't. I remember thinking back, I was, like, not making any sense, but I remember being like, why.

[Dave Portnoy]

Why do you hate.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why do you do this?

[Dave Portnoy]

You know?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he was like, because you're obnoxious.

[Dave Portnoy]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then I. You know, like, I. I, of course, like, when the Mets are doing good or, like, beating your team, I'm gonna be obnoxious. But I think overall, like Mets fans, I view our vibe as, like, we desperately want this thing, and when they lose, we get mad. And when they're winning, we're, like, so pumped about it. But if you're not, like, understanding the nuances of all this dumb that I just explained, and you're just like, hey, I'm in Philly. Look, those guys are, you know, I mean, it's like, oh, they're behaving like.

[Dave Portnoy]

But Philly's like, that's different, too. I. I think you're. I think you're, like, connecting it with fans, who is fair. Hatred. Like, Phillies is fair. Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, but, like, if the Padres fans hate you, that's all crazy. But, like, Phillies.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But had Shane just been like, yeah, you're an at Least, like, rival. Like, we hate you. But he was just like, you're gonna go back to being like an obnoxious New York. I think what he said, you know what I mean? I think that is kind of what happens. I think people are just like, yeah, those guys. Because of the geography or the, you know, the money or the whatever that you associate with New York. People seem to just. I wonder if we were like the Cleveland Mets, would it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, but he was right, too. Right. Like, you're like, yeah, when we're winning, I'm obnoxious.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but, no, but I, I don't think of, like, I personally, I don't think maybe, maybe directly with him because they were beating the Phillies a lot. They won like 14 a row against the Phillies.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. I think when I'm being obnoxious, I don't necessarily. I think I'm, like, excited that the Mets are doing good, but I don't think I'm ever like, we're good. You're bad. I'm better than you. Because we always know the other shoes about to drop.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I mean? So I don't even. I'm sure we're obnoxious.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, but in that specific story.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, but the way, you know, kind of the way he said it was so like, why are people that way? And he was like, you're obnoxious to your castle. So I was like, oh, maybe that is just the general. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know. But either way, it, it sucks.

[Dave Portnoy]

And it's just, it's just the worst.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Part of all is when you're old enough to say this is silly and completely like a not tangible thing that doesn't matter, but it matters.

[Dave Portnoy]

Dude, I'm glad you brought the Jets. I was thinking yesterday, I, we never got to talk about it. The, the opening day jets thing that's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

On the, on the flag.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We never even got an explanation, did we? How the, did that guy get in the middle of the. Did he fall out of the sky?

[Dave Portnoy]

Think about it. I, I, I, again, I was lit. I was thinking about this in detail yesterday. Like, have you seen this video? No. Okay, so Pavs, can you pull it up? The. It's. If you haven't seen. I'll try and paint a picture. Opening day NFL stadium. They have like the big flag on.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The field, the 100 yard flag. It's the whole field.

[Dave Portnoy]

Okay. Right. And you know, they run it out they wave it like that. Some guy got caught on top of it in the middle of the field.

[Jackie]

How did he get there?

[Dave Portnoy]

And he's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

He's crawling.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Starts out with him on. It's the most emasculating, embarrassing thing I. That didn't go, like, as viral. Like, I did a video on it. People were like, that's funny. I thought that was gonna be, like, the biggest thing. Right. It's probably the biggest thing in sports I've ever seen.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I was thinking about it yesterday where I was like. Like, imagine if you were on the. The. The flag line. Yeah. Right. And, you know, they come out like you. There's one side of the field, and they run out across.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Unfold it, like.

[Dave Portnoy]

And the guy next to you is, like, kind of freaking out a little bit, and you're like, hey, dude, you okay? And he's like, yeah, I'm just really nervous I'm gonna land on top of the flag. You would be like, dude, don't even worry. You're that good. I don't even think that's possible, if that's what you're concerned about. Stop worrying about that. And then 20 minutes later, he's like, thanks for the help.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Where were you on that one, dipshit?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't understand. How'd you. Because if you're. If you're running with the flag and you fall, you fall to the ground.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm telling you, you have to come from the sky.

[Dave Portnoy]

That man fell from the sky.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's. When there's a rain delay in baseball, they roll out the big tarp.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And there's a lot of time, not a lot of times, but every, like, once or twice a year, somebody slips and falls and gets, like, eaten up in the thing. Okay. But you end up underneath.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And that's embarrassing because you see, like, this little bubble, and someone's crawling their way out.

[Jackie]

That's crazy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's physically comprehensible. This is like. And. And that video starts. There's no other video. There's, like. There's, like, one other angle that I've seen, but it's not any longer. It's like, how.

[Dave Portnoy]

Do you get through the flag? It turns out it was Oz the Mentalist.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

My biggest trick is I somehow ended.

[Dave Portnoy]

Up on top of the fl. I said that when.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That. No sense.

[Dave Portnoy]

When that video came out again, it was opening day in the NFL, and I was like, every year, the jets will do something that you didn't even know was possible. I don't even. I don't. I, I sit here right now. I don't get how that guy got on top of that.

[Jackie]

And then I'm trying to think, like, what's a cooler way he could have gotten off? I think that crawling's your only option.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, no.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what I was thinking? I think I would lay there.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think the only option, I would literally cross my legs and be like, I meant to do this.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's almost like start doing laps, like, swimming.

[Dave Portnoy]

Remember?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You ever do, like, popcorn when you're little?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, it's popcorn. Guys.

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm the beach ball.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, throw me around. Maybe as a grown man is.

[Jackie]

You can't be crawling as a grown man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You really can't be crawling as a grown man. Like, if, if you, if you're like, for some reason, you need to crawl on the floor. Like, no, you can't do that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I think you have to talk so emasculated.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Maybe do you, like, somersaults your whole way? I mean, I, I would love to track that guy. We. We should be able to do that, right? Jets fans, somebody out there knows that guy.

[Dave Portnoy]

I want to talk to them.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just run me through the most, like, emasculating thing that could possibly happen.

[Dave Portnoy]

You're on top of the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Speaking of the NFL and really speaking of things that don't matter but are do matter. I think. I think the bad bunny halftime selection is actually like a deep state warhawk move for the people who want the Civil War to happen, because that is more logical than picking a guy who doesn't sing songs in English.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I that, that, that people are.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Going to go berserk over that.

[Dave Portnoy]

What do you mean?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, that, like, think about how, like, Kendrick Lamar created, like, a racial divide.

[Dave Portnoy]

But, like, it already happened. Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't think people know who bet. I think when, like, when the general America finds out that he's going to sing songs that don't have English, I think people are going to.

[Jack]

I've already seen some of those accounts called, like end Wokeness being like, he doesn't like ice.

[Dave Portnoy]

What the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Especially right right now. Immigration.

[Dave Portnoy]

That and Wokeness account's been around for quite some time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

The like with everything going on with immigration, I think the last thing the country. This is a Puerto Rican pop star singing in Spanish on the, on the, on the super bowl stage.

[Dave Portnoy]

Has there been any. But like, it happened. Like, has it. Has there been a lot of backlash?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm. I have not even. I'VE been on a full blown media blackout since the Mets have not been playing. I mean, they don't like when there's like a rap song they're going to. I don't think people under you know who Bad Bunny is in this country to know that there's going to be a guy singing all songs in Spanish at the biggest American event that's going. If you don't think that people are going to get upset about that, be like, it's America, speak English out on our field. You're mixing our football with the Puerto Ricans. That is going to be.

[Jackie]

I didn't think of that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, oh my God. I can't. That's the only thing I thought of. That's the only thing. Like nobody knows the songs or knows what he's saying.

[Dave Portnoy]

The I, I don't know. I, I, I saw it last night, obviously. I don't think anyone's that mad. I don't know. I, I guess I, I I defer to you I I He's the biggest artist in the world. Makes sense.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I don't, I actually, I think, I think it's okay to be like, I think that's a bad halftime choice because I don't know any of the songs like, I, I, I that inherently comes across as like racist or prejudice or whatever. To be like, I don't want the, the Latin star on, on stage. But it's like, I don't, I don't know what he's saying. There's a, there's a pretty, I can't connect with his music. There's a pretty big divide here. I don't know. And you know, of course there's like Despacito and songs like that that like pop off, but if you do like a whole set of Spanish songs, that's not going to go over well, I think.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, I, I don't know. I, I, I've never been a halftime. Like when, when is the time of your life where you're supposed to care about it? You know what I mean?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Never.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like I, I feel like I've already been through it. Like I've never been in a, at a party in high school or college and people like shut the up the halftime shows on and we all sit down and watch the halftime show show.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, definitely the last couple years has been like a talking point or like a zeit.

[Dave Portnoy]

People get mad about it. But like when, when are you like, like, I imagine it's when you're younger, you're supposed to care about that.

[Jackie]

I feel like it's kind of like for the girls and all the girls like Bad Bunny. So, like, I feel like, you know, I'm happy with the pick.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Pavs]

The halftime show should just be for girls that don't watch football but want.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

To be included on the biggest day. Right. It's like the, the. The. The die hard, like, football fan, American, like blue collar guys. Like, you're never gonna like any of these selections.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. You're not gonna be a fan no matter what. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I, I think. I think there was a run there where they were like, catering to those people. Right. It was like the Stones and like.

[Dave Portnoy]

Old bands and like early 2000s, they had like, I think Prince.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

But like, people were Prince, but those who weren't that old.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know what I mean? That was 25 years ago. Prince wasn't that old.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right, right, right. I'm just thinking that, like, it. I think there was a run where it was their genre and then it switched to like, pop. And then rap was like, you know, a big deal, but for what. I don't know how or why, but it definitely has like a cultural significance now that's way more than what it actually is.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I think, I think it's just. That's just social media. People just.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, that's probably what I mean.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's cultural significance is people bitching about.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

About it. I mean, the, like, the 40 acres in a Mule, like, racism, slavery discourse that came out of Kendrick Lamar's performance was bonkers.

[Jackie]

They probably want the most controversial.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, I. I mean, I guess I also do wonder, do you know, as a Swifty, like, there was talk that she was supposed to do and then I saw, like, she wanted the rights and they. It fell apart. And like, I like Taylor Swift's music.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't really dive too deep into. There's too much nowadays where it's like, I just could. I can't. I can't wait for the life of a showgirl. Aside from that, I'm not that super into.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I. I could just see a world where that. That was like the plan and that fell apart and they were like, we need another, like, monster name. But I don't know, seems like, I mean, Bad Bunny, like, specifically was like, I'm not touring in America. And I think there was. I think there was at least jokes that people were like, that he doesn't want Ice to like, have all. All the people in one concentrated spot. But I think, you know, when someone's like, not an American artist, I'm not touring in America. That was his announcement was like, actually I'm going to do one date in America.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Which is pretty fucking. But it's like. Yeah. I don't know. It's like if you were, if you're building your whole career basically without America and you're like, I don't really need that and I don't do that and then you get the stage for like the number one American thing. I think there's going to be a lot of people who don't know. Maybe, maybe there's so many people who are. They don't even know that they won't be outraged because it's like I don't even know what's going on here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, but I think when the time comes, unless I don't know if you can do it in a way where I don't know, you have like friends come out and it's more like a medley. And it's not just like him singing Spanish songs. But there's gonna be a lot of people in America when There's, you know, 10 minutes of just not English going on that they will be upset for sure.

[Dave Portnoy]

They can. Congrats. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are going to be mad. I don't know what to tell you.

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[Dave Portnoy]

Seeing it again tonight lives up to the hype. So good. Del Toro is so good in this movie, I can't even tell.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm almost thinking from what I've heard. I'm like, it sounds like this is a Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro movie and Leo happens to be a part of it.

[Dave Portnoy]

And that the sad thing is Leo, as good as he's ever been, he's unreal. But Benicio Del Toro, for me, steals the show. It's so good. It's so good.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I don't know anything.

[Jackie]

What is this movie even about?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, the, the, the, the, the. All the talk was about how good it is and the names in it, but I don't. I couldn't even tell you the plot.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's. It. I honestly don't Even really, It's a war movie. No, I saw him in. It's in uniform. He's. He's a soldier. Okay, but like. Like, what branch of the government he works for is never. It's not like. Like, I don't want to tell people what it's about because it's not about those things. Okay, does that make sense? Like, they're revolutionaries. Leo and. And Tiana Taylor.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Modern day, though, right?

[Dave Portnoy]

Modern day revolutionaries. Yeah. And 15 years go by and this guy who they used to fight with is on their trail, and it's just Leo running from this guy. And it is so godamn. Like, and the action's awesome. And here's what's going to happen, which is what was frustrating is that, like, people are going to be like, this movie is incredible. It's so good. And then in three months, a lot.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

More people are going to see it.

[Dave Portnoy]

And they're going to go, that was overrated. And you're like, yeah, it was better in the theater with the people who were excited to see it. Like, it's. It's still good. It's going to be very good at home, too. But it is just in the theater, it's awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I do. From my point of view, at least. And I think there are more people like me. If we could just. I mean, you got to tell it like it is. I understand, but if we could just pump the brakes on saying, like, the first review was like, this is a masterpiece and the greatest movie it is experience you'll ever see. And then I go into it like, I mean, people said the same thing about sinners. And I was like, that's not the greatest movie of all time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Let me.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Not even close.

[Dave Portnoy]

Let me explain this to you, right? Let's say I go to a restaurant and I have the fucking best meal I've ever had in my life. And I tell you, I go, kevin, you got to have this fucking meal. It is so goddamn good. And in three months, you get it delivered and you go, it's not as good. Well, it's different. It was different when I ate it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right? But also, I can understand what you're talking about. But also, like, if it's like.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like it came in four individual boxes and they're different temperatures. Like, yeah, I don't know, man. The chef prepared it for me and I was in his ambiance, and it was awesome.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I guess I can't say because I didn't do it, but I think if I saw Sinners in the movie theater, I I just don't think that movie, movie was as good as people said it was. Like that to me was a very normal movie that was talked about like it was the greatest thing in cinematic history. So then the next one that comes along basically, like since then that's getting that treatment is this one. Also a big problem for me is I thought Killers of the Flower Moon was like the worst movie I've ever seen. So. And a lot of people spoke the same way about that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I thought, I thought Kill the Flower Moon was, was pretty poorly received. Like I thought. Oh really? I heard on the best picture list.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I thought maybe the initial reaction was I think that people wanted that movie to be good. And I feel like I haven't even heard people ever like bring it up again. I feel like, like in the moment kind of came and went. But now that it's gone, I feel like it's not.

[Dave Portnoy]

I thought it was. So I went to. I was like, that was solid. I think I had it like around my 10th best movie of the year. But like it was. It's a good movie. It's Martin Scorsese, Leonardo DiCaprio.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Who's the actor, who's the director of this one?

[Dave Portnoy]

Paul Thomas Anderson. Okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh right, right, right, right, right. That was the, that was the dude.

[Dave Portnoy]

There's one and he's the guy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh no, wait, Wes Anderson.

[Dave Portnoy]

Wes Anderson.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And he. But he is doing a movie with him too, right Leo?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't think so.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Maybe I got my answer. Cuz that's. That's the guy who only pays you like 10,000 bucks, right?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So he ain't ever going to get a movie like that unless those guys.

[Jackie]

I'm watching the studio with just whatever remind me of Martin Scorsese. Reminded me of it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So good, so good, so good, so good. That, that, that is like a, that, that, that's a piece of art that show. Because like the, the plot and all that's good. But like the way it's shot and the acting and the one shot.

[Jackie]

Although the only one thing is there's something, I can't put my finger on it. There's something like I can see the, the script like the words on the page and it takes me out ever so slightly. It's like almost like the, the lines are too written by like some theater where it does. It's not completely natural coming out.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's very like Sorkin is like for sure, like it's good, but it's like nobody speaks that way.

[Jackie]

That's not how A conversation goes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's, that is the, that's the rub with like acting and movies to me is. I mean this is not like a surprise or a secret, but like being natural. If you were to truly make a movie, naturally it wouldn't be a good movie.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like if you, if you show a conversation between me and John, it's like I'm like laying on the couch just being like, yeah, what are you doing, man? You know you can't do that.

[Dave Portnoy]

You got to like look out the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Window and be dramatic and. But also make it seem real. It's very hard to do.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like when people are like, oh, did you method actors be on coke? It's like, yeah, well dude, I wouldn't be able to understand a guy on.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Dave Portnoy]

You have to pretend you're on coke.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You have to get as close to being like the guy but still maintaining. I'm performing.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, of course it's not a secret, but it is when you really like tangibly think about it, it's a very hard thing to do.

[Dave Portnoy]

I remember there was, I think Michael Kane had like a comment where he's talking about like when he was in acting school where he had to play a role drunk and he came in like shit faced like a bat out of hell, spinning topsy turvy, all that. And then his acting coach pulled him aside and was like, what are you doing? And he's like, you told me to act drunk. He's like, yes, but your character is a guy who's hiding that he's drunk. So you have to act like a guy who's hiding that he's drunk, not like a drunk maniac.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And Michael Caine was like. And that's when I realized like, oh, I get it now.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's what acting is.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. A lot of sense. That like your character's not proud of the fact that he's drunk. He's got a hiding it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I think about in Schitt's Creek one time before I had ever watched. I turned it on and it was a conversation between Moira and somebody else. And I didn't know any of the context of anything, but I could just tell that they were sisters just because of like the way that you talk to your sister is so specific. And I wasn't even like paying attention to the like the audio wasn't on. I could just tell based off the body language. I was like, oh, that might be the best Acting.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Pick up on, like, familial relationships just because of the way they're. They're acting.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, the. Wait. Sorry, you guys.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

No, keep going. I was gonna just bring up, like, other movies in general.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, that's why I wanted you to go, because I was gonna change the subject.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So I have a problem with. There's this new thing going on on streaming where they are putting up movies that look like they're available and they're not. What the fuck is that about?

[Dave Portnoy]

I like, it's right there with all.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, the little rectangle or square. I was like, oh, the Long Walk is already out. I can't believe it. And you click on it and it says, available for 24.99. And then I click on that. So, like, I see it and then there's a price and it says click. And then you go to it. It says, pre order now.

[Dave Portnoy]

The Splitsville man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was that. And then also, like, Sinners was another one where, like, at one point it was like on your screen, like, on your. Not centers. Weapons. Like, it just. If a movie's not out, don't put it on the. Don't make it look like, you know, you can put, like, Coming soon or something like that. But when it's just like, oh, there's another square next to all the movies that are available. Shows are available, and it's not. Drives me insane. I was all excited to watch the Long Walk. I was like, I can't believe this is already. I mean, it gets stupid for me to think it's already on streaming, but stop doing it.

[Pavs]

I'm waiting for the first director that, like, it would have to be a level of PTA with Leo for this movie. That's like, I trust this movie so much. I'm not putting out on streaming for two years. You go buy a DVD of it if you want. You're not gonna do that. Go see it in theaters.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm waiting for that day.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

How much money do you think they make off streaming these days? Is it like. Is it like 50?

[Dave Portnoy]

50?

[Pavs]

I wonder if it's 50.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

50. I think, like, you almost, like, have to, but if it's not, that's a great idea. I love that. They don't never happen.

[Pavs]

They'll never allow it. You won't be allowed to make the movie.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You. You need to. It would be like an independent film. Like, no movie studio would allow it. But it's sort of like, you know, it's like you put out an album and it's like, you have. This is the order. You're supposed to listen to it. And I guess you can't force people to do that. But, like, other artists do are like.

[Dave Portnoy]

This is how my art is supposed to be consumed.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. And I'm not gonna. You know, it's like. I guess it's like making, like, duplicates of your art or something that's like, no, you have to go to this gallery and see this thing. I'm not just gonna send it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, those are artists. Artists. Like, they're like, the light is right on the painting and, like, the music is right. Like, yeah, it obviously matters how something's consumed and that. I was thinking about that the other day when I. It was actually after one battle after another, because I walked out of one battle after another. I thought that was amazing. And then I thought in three weeks or three months, whatever will be. People go, it's not as good anyway. Yeah. There's a big difference between seeing this in a theater with 200 people who were jacked up to see it, and, like, having that excitement versus sitting there going, I don't know, should we throw this thing on? Like, after you've been scrolling for 20 minutes, like, I don't know. People said this was good. Like, it's just the way you approach it, the way you consume it is.

[Pavs]

Very, very different than so little people are going. Like, average movie watchers are going to the theaters now that a common promotion that they're doing is talking about the specs that in the cameras that they filmed it with.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Pavs]

Like, the other day, I watched for the Smashing Machine. Dwayne the Rock Johnson is sitting next to Ben Safdie for a promo of it video. And it's just Ben Safty talking about, like, how he shot it in IMAX.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And all the different. Makes you feel you have to see it on.

[Pavs]

Because it's only. It's only nerds going to the movie theaters now. Like, movie nerds.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, I care that down, huh? Maybe. Maybe it's just because in this world, like, I. I see you guys go to the movies, like, every day, so I thought movies are, like, doing good, but I guess you guys are the vast minority.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. I can't. I can't figure out what I think of movies because a part of me thinks that movies are gonna go, are gonna pop. Could the. Like, the. The. What made me think that is the Odyssey. They put the tickets on sale, and they all sold out in, like, a minute. And I remember just seeing that on Twitter and just feeling Very much. Like this is what it felt like for sneakers. Like, I just felt like that vibe. Like when sneaker drops. And like the cool kids were excited about sneakers. And like the cool kids, at least again, according to my Internet, the cool kids were excited for the Odyssey. And. And I was like, it just feels like a sneaker type vibe to me. Who knows what happens?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You're saying that in a good thing or a bad thing?

[Dave Portnoy]

Good. A good thing. Like how, like how sneakers felt like before all that stuff, like, went crazy. So, like, it feels like early sneaker days. I could absolutely be wrong, but like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Maybe it's because of what Pad just talked about. But I feel like I hear more about the millimeters and the screen.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's what kind of the same thing. Like, sneakers were the same deal where like the technical aspect of it got pulled popular and then like cool people liked it and then that. That made other people like it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sneakers goes mainstream and there's probably more people than ever. But the moviegoers or the sneaker heads are like, they don't like that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yes.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So it might be. So you're thinking it's going to become commercial and you'll like that or not like that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. I'll be annoyed. I'll be someone in the gym in mid January going where all these people, these guys aren't really about it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's the same thing I always say. I always say, like, as a sports fan, you want bandwagon fans, team's doing something good enough move.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I'll be happy that, like, it's happening. But again, like, I don't know this is going to happen. This is just a quick vibe. Well, I'm not like predicting the future.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I do think it's hard. It's like any other media where it's like, yeah, you just like kind of consume things on your phone and in your house now. And it doesn't feel like you have to go. I feel like the, like a Christopher Nolan or a Leo. Like the big ones are still the big ones. I think it's the other tier that's the problem.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think a lot of people will.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Still always go to the theaters for those events. It's just that, that middle level of like, why would I.

[Dave Portnoy]

But also, like, I. I also feel like people are always so quick to like, kill an industry.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. Where it's like, it's not like right now you're having a little bit of a down and doesn't mean that theaters are bad.

[Dave Portnoy]

I've been, I've been reading this book, I've been reading it over a long period of time. Like, I read it in little phases, but Oscar wars, which is just about the history of the Academy. Let me tell you a little something about Hollywood. It's been going out of business since it was started. You know what I mean? There's always. Every decade I'm reading, they're like, it's like, this saved Hollywood and this was. Hollywood was on a downtrend. And like, it's going to happen every decade, forever. It'll still be here. People will still go to the movies. People still go to museums. Like they're. These industries don't die. They get a little smaller. Sure. But like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, music is always around, but like streaming, like, really radically changed things, probably, like for the worse, for the artist, but for the better, for the consumer. So, like, I think movies are probably going through a similar thing.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know how it. Like how that shakes out, where it's like, well, I don't think there are people out there being like, I'm not gonna be a musician, because streaming is just not worth it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, you're gonna do it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's actors going, I'm not gonna put my art into this because people are gonna watch it at home. Like, you're still gonna do it.

[Jackie]

You know what they should do? They should pump out the popcorn smell of the movie theaters. And I feel like that would bring.

[Dave Portnoy]

More people in inside. Just like, front.

[Jackie]

Yeah, up front. Just like pop. Because when I walk by a subway, worst idea. When I walk by a subway, oh, my God, I salivate that smell.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I would bottle it and put it in a cologne.

[Jackie]

They do it to kava, too, and everything. And like, I. I get it more often because of it. They do that.

[Jack]

You never walk by the kava downstairs.

[Jackie]

And I think it's the most brilliant walk by. They pump.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I get it every time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Really?

[Jack]

I agree. I agree with the movie thing. I think I was just thinking about.

[Jackie]

Go take a little field trip.

[Dave Portnoy]

I walked by that cop. I. I have a bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wait.

[Dave Portnoy]

What do you like?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What do you like? They have, like a machine or something.

[Jackie]

I don't know, but they have their.

[Jack]

Vents, ventilation system where the smell of them cooking it goes outside.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think you guys are making this up. No, go.

[Jackie]

Go take a little walk.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, I can understand that, like, you. You might be able to smell it, but are you telling me that, like, every kava does this?

[Jack]

Yes, they do it.

[Jackie]

It's a marketing tactic.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And when I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

This is like a thing that people.

[Jack]

Have like boots on the ground. Research. I love kava. I go to kava all the time to different locations. I try out different cavas.

[Jackie]

Subway started it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, the subway smell like.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't care.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Whatever. They're making their bread out of yoga mats. I don't know. Tastes great and it smells great.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Oh, I was gonna say, but the movie thing. People my age are going to movies more because people are like remembering. Remembering it. That it exists. People are like, oh, like there's nothing to do. Oh, we could go to the movies.

[Dave Portnoy]

I feel like younger people talk to talk to me about movies.

[Jack]

And I think it's kind of going along with like younger people drinking less. Like, what are they doing with all that time? Like people are going in the movies.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They're starting to drink again though.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, of course.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Everyone just turned 21.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Drinking the same thing. Drinking's not going anywhere, guys. I think like this is the last generation drink is gonna be just.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I do think that there it's again different. I think that like kids are micro dosing ketamine. You want a beer? You want ketamine? I'll do this.

[Dave Portnoy]

But it ain't going anywhere.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I'm gonna research this cabin thing. Imagine there's just like. Yeah. No, every cava has like this. This tube that just like shoots it out to the side.

[Jackie]

I actually genuinely think that's what they do. I think they get them from the kitchen to the front. I'm not, I'm not.

[Jack]

Have you seen the line you. I guess you guys don't aren't familiar year.

[Dave Portnoy]

I know, I know. I go to kava all the time. I just don't. I just don't smell it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like I get the sweet and.

[Dave Portnoy]

Sour.

[Jackie]

But when I smell popcorn, I think movie theaters and I. And I think I want to go to the movies. I want to be sitting down in the movies.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I want like a three gallon bucket of soda. Yeah. You know, like the only time I ever eat bunch of crunch and popcorn. Is that the movie theater?

[Jackie]

A gallon of soda tun your mint.

[Jack]

They start. Gotta start campaigning that like movie theater calories. Calories don't count. Like drunk don't count. Movie theater calories don't count.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You gotta start that, you know? You know what they should do is have like two versions of every movie. It's like if you go to the. You get like. It's almost like your extended scenes or your whatever. It's like that's in the movie theater only.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That would actually make me, you know, you can't like drastically change the movie, but like, I don't know if there was like a really good battle scene or something that can elevate but not change the. The movie so much. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

There's a scene in this movie that I would cut out. There's a scene in one battle after another that I would cut and not give to people at home. Dude, in theaters. I was watching it at times. I was like, do I have special needs? Like, I was like up in my seat. Like, at one point I, I said, I went, this is so cool.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But you know what? Okay, let me think. Let's think about this though. Like, I understand everything you're saying. But then there's television, which is never on a big screen, you know, and like, you can watch a TV show and be like, this is a masterpiece and it's on your 12 inch screen at home, you know, so it's like that stuff matters, but not totally, you know, because there's. There's shit that we consume at home that is like, just as good for sure.

[Dave Portnoy]

But like. But a TV show would never attempt a scene like this.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You think so? You think that?

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, I mean, like, it's just that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Because I. I am a person, like, I don't really care about what you're describing. I understand that it still will impact me, but I don't. I've never really cared about like the CGI or the graphics or the special effects, cinematography or whatever, or even using it. Like, I don't, you know, people get upset if they use too much of it, whatever. I'm just sort of like, if the plot is good and the acting's good and the story's there and like, it looks good enough, like I'm good.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's what's impressive about this, is that there is no, like, CGI or anything like that. Like, like this scene in particular is.

[Jackie]

Can you say the scene?

[Dave Portnoy]

Can I. I'll say it to you. I don't want to say it to pass. I'll say it to you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, then, then wait, are you saying that it's no cgi, meaning everything they do is practical or they just don't do big things in it?

[Dave Portnoy]

No, it's all okay.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's big and real. Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And it's just like it's. I don't even know how they did it. It's so cool. So cool. Like, but like, when you say a TV show, like, I'm picturing like the off like, like yeah, there are things like True Detective that'll try like a bigger set like our Thrones. But those are like, yeah, like Thrones.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Is a great example. They do like a full blown movie.

[Jackie]

Maybe It'd be like 20 times better if it wasn't a theater.

[Dave Portnoy]

It would. Yeah, it would be way. Yeah, like so, yeah, like, like but even Thrones, like I don't know, I'm thinking of the Dark Knight. Like that sucked or whatever that that episode's called. Like I think that scene, that episode in a theater.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

Why don't they do TV theaters?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know. They should probably some HBO production type deal.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But I mean I would it out.

[Dave Portnoy]

On Sunday nights for sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like I wouldn't go to everyone. So maybe you just do like. But like if you could watch like when people started doing it for silly stuff like the Love island watch parties. Like that's awesome. I, I did it. I, I've been on a crusade since 2005 or six or whatever. I, I watched the Mets at a movie theater once and it was like the best experience of my life. And I've been, I've talked to the Mets, I've talked to theaters. I'm like trying to figure out how we could ever do that again. I don't know how it happened. It seemed like it was a one time thing. It was like the most fun I've ever had because it was popcorn and the movie theater experience, but it was live and like people were running up and down the aisles, high fiving and going crazy and it's like, why don't we do more of this for all things like put it all in.

[Jackie]

Have you ever watched a movie in like Bryant Park?

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Jackie]

It's just lovely. You just think like I just love humanity.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I did it with the sandlot recently at my kids school. They just set up a projector in the, in the parking lot. It was like this is. We should do this like every weekend. Yeah, it was awesome. But yeah, I mean that the TV thing does make it weird for me when it's like, well that can be on a small screen, but this can't. But I guess if you're shooting and trying different things.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Like most TV shows will never attempt what is attempted in this movie. Like this, this scene's got. Movie's got some awesome battle scenes. It's really fun. I don't know. It's great. It's really, really great. You should go see it in the theater.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sax is the original pouch underwear. While everyone Else is trying to do the pouches and the no ride up and the slick waistband and all that. Sax has been doing it since the 2006.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's a long time.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Back when people were wearing like cotton tighty whities and briefs, these guys were in the game of trying to make your boxer briefs comfortable with a pouch for your dick and balls. They had. This has been patented the ballpark Pouch technology since 2006. Almost 20 years in the game of making comfortable underwear for men, period.

[Dave Portnoy]

The Ballpark pouch. You ever just. Just imagine this. Imagine that there was this angel walking around all day holding your nuts in your inner hand. In their hand, whoever's hand. And it's just.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

I got nut problems. I got nuts. That. That.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hey, bro, we all do.

[Dave Portnoy]

Welcome to the body.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's one of the craziest things. It's like the most important thing to that a male has to keep the human race going. Needs to hang outside of your body for temperature purposes.

[Dave Portnoy]

What?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why? Why God? Why? Zax is basically fixing the. The mistakes that God made.

[Dave Portnoy]

When you're in the sacks, it's like a really talented waitress turning the corner. We're going, I got it.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

They don't even spill. Yeah, they got a bunch of martinis.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, it's nice.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's one of those called gimbals.

[Dave Portnoy]

When you're filming, that's the sex, the.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Sax pouch for you and your dick.

[Dave Portnoy]

And just sitting in that cradle. It's unbelievable.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's the kind of underwear, when you put it on, you notice it. You're like, oh, my God, this is really comfortable. And like five hours later, you're like, I haven't even thought about my underwear all day. Because ordinarily you wear some old ratty, uncomfortable underwear. It just like it's on front of mind the whole day. This is just peaceful bliss where you don't have to worry about your dick, balls or underwear. It's that comfortable. And once you try Saks, you'll realize how bad that old underwear was and you'll be a sax man for life. So upgrade your drawers and upgrade your [e-mail]. that's S A X X.com S A double X. To upgrade your comfort today.

[Dave Portnoy]

I did have. I had two more things real quick. The. I watched the NFL game yesterday morning in Dublin. It's so funny doing the international now that we're like. Like London was one thing where like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

One is just New York over there.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, you can disappear in London. But like the fact that we're in like Dublin and Galway and stuff like now, like 100,000American football ball fans dropping.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Descending on your town.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like, you can't miss it. Like, I was just picturing 100,000 packers and Raiders just showed up to Dublin for the weekend. You're like, this is one tenth of our population. What the is going on? Just these 400 pound people in cheese heads walking around.

[Jackie]

This is, is insane.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, like it's, it's almost like the worst, the worst like ambassadors you could ever imagine. Like, go spread the American way. Wisconsin. I heard that some dude on the Steelers got robbed too.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I, that's true, yeah, but because.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I love to think of the idea of like some Irish goons being like, I don't know, this guy is, give me your wallet, your chain, you and that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, that was, that's funny bringing that up because when I was in Dublin, I was out with some of my friends who are from Dublin, and I was walking, I was leaving and I was like, all right, I'll catch you guys later. And they were like, oh, John's here. Wouldn't, wouldn't walk home at night. And I was like, boys, you guys don't even have guns. I think I'll be all right. Don't you worry about me. And I walked home and I was fine. But like I said, you know where I'm American. You're getting jumped over there. A bad name fell like the is a guy gonna do to me over here? Like, literally, what's he gonna do to me? Hey, you, give us your wallet. Shut the up and you keep walking.

[Jackie]

I picture them like with a musket.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If anything, you're shoving like the gunpowder in, seriously, I'll be ready in five minutes. Give me your wallet.

[Dave Portnoy]

I remember, like looking at them stupefied, I was like, yeah, boys, I'll be all right. I'm from America, man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We can't even send our kids to school, dude.

[Dave Portnoy]

Do you know how long it takes me to go into an event? Trust me, I can handle Main street in Dublin just fine. And then one other thing I was thinking of. I actually have a bunch of things. I won't do them all. First of all, actually, I'll do three quick ones. One. Clem. Shout out, Clem. What a guy.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Why? Is there anything reason or.

[Dave Portnoy]

He's just the best dude.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Clem, he's the man.

[Dave Portnoy]

Clem was up, up in his neck of the woods. Went to a convenience store of sorts. Got himself a bag of Sour Patch Kids. Thought they were the Best bag he's ever had. So we had to go back, bought the whole rack, brought some to me. I honestly was very enthused. I was like, this is the nicest thing ever. But in my head I was thinking, I've had every bag ass bk, like whatever this is, I've tried them. It's very nice of Clem to do this, but I, you know, it's not going to be a Sour Patch Kid. I haven't tasted before. And then I ate that bad sour.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Dave Portnoy]

Dude, it was the, it was so good. It was, they were like pregnant kinda, you know what I mean? Like they were a little fatter. The kids, the kids have been break. The kids are pregnant. And like they'd get in your mouth and it'd be a little, you know, you kind of slide it between your teeth and it's a little wider than usual. You know, it kind of just sitting there and then you bite down and it would be his perfect gelatinous explosion in your mouth. Unbelievable. Jackie's like, I can't believe he just said July.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know what's more ridiculous is the passion he's describing it or the passion Clem described it. Because I saw this before it happened. He walked in, we were going to, we had a Mets watch party. So that's why he was in the city. And he brought gifts for everybody. He had like a T shirt for me and this guy for this guy. And he pulls out the Sour Patch Kids and he was like, I went to this place the other day and I got the perfect bag and he started to describe it and he was sort of like, you know what I'm talking about, right? And I was sort of like, yeah, yeah, like I know what I know when you have stale ones, you know, I know that. But like great versus good, I don't know if I could distinguish, but the big fella can.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know, and he was like, so I, I had to go back and get one. I was like, that is really the nicest.

[Dave Portnoy]

Insanely nice.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like you didn't have to do that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And you wouldn't even know that that happened or didn't happen. And everyone go about their life. But he made sure he did it and then he delivered. It's like, yo, when it comes to snacks, don't doubt the king.

[Dave Portnoy]

It was, it was a beautiful exchange of snack lovers because I had just come from the airport and I was like, I was like, dude, here's a hard boiled egg. Close. So I come to the airport. Damn, I Was like, dude, like, I. It's great to run into you. You'll never guess what I just saw for the first time out in the wild. I, I saw the Reese's Pieces peanut butter Oreo cologne.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I saw that. He goes, spiderberg just gave me these.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I. And he goes, no way. I've been dying for one of those. I go, buddy, guess who got to. Oh, my God. But then. And then now for this. I was admittedly high when I sent this text, but I, I, I. As I got towards the end of this text, I was thinking in my own head, this is insane. But I said, clemente text. Thursday night, 8:30pm I had just eaten the Sour Patch Kids. I went, dude, holy. I was honestly skeptical. How good could these be? I thought this guy wrote a little chapter book. Then I opened the bag and my skepticism grew. They seemed a bit melted. Maybe the taste had been altered in transit. But then I bit into. And I say this without exaggeration. The best Sour Patch Kid I've ever easted. You've ever eaten. I've never tasted anything like it. I'll cherish this bag as I cherish our friendship. Go Mets.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Wrote a blog.

[Jackie]

It's like a lyric.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's not even like a. I'm actually happy you put the disclaimer. Now. I was high for this. That makes things a lot different, a little more understandable.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's crazy. I was like, halfway through it, and I was really high, and I was like, exactly you. I was like, you're writing this like it's a blog. And then I was like, let's just go all in, but at the bottom.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Keep reading.

[Dave Portnoy]

When I wrote, I'll cherish this as I cherish our friendship, I was like, that's an insane. Pretty funny. So how do you respond? He responded, something very nice, I'm sure.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, he's climbing. He is. Literally.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I'm not gonna read other people's things.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Literally. The goat, it's like my favorite human alive.

[Jackie]

So what? So what happened? They just go like crazy on this batch of.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it's just. I think it's just. It's like a ripeness. I think candy has a ripeness.

[Jackie]

Transit.

[Dave Portnoy]

There was.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or if it sits on the, on the railing, it's a little different than.

[Dave Portnoy]

It usually does because when you open the bag, you can tell this isn't a normal bag. They were like a little. You know how you can usually see the granular sugar on them. You couldn't really kind of had a shine. Oh, yeah, they were old.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Old, but not. Not stale. Like, you gotta hit that sweet spot.

[Dave Portnoy]

I kind of want to say.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I mean, it kind of is like. It's like a banana. It's like, you don't want them in green. You don't want them. They're brown. You gotta give them the yellow.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think you got them in there.

[Jackie]

Maybe they were like, sitting on a vent or.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think it's rare, though. It's like, you know, they send a bajillion bags out there, and some of them are probably. By the time you get to them, probably all still. You got to have that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, if people don't know this about candy. Candy has a very fickle, ripe and. And ready. Like.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, certainly with chocolate, you get that crumbly chocolate.

[Dave Portnoy]

Terrible. Sometimes it gets a little white to it, right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Or if it like, melts and then refreezes, kind of like peanut butter cups.

[Dave Portnoy]

Will get you like that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You know what it is? It's like eating. It's like watching a movie at the theater. It's like gotta consume it the way.

[Dave Portnoy]

It'S intended to be. At the Reese's Factory, honestly, we should.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Have you ever done something like that?

[Dave Portnoy]

No.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, you know when people, like, drink Guinness at the factory, like, oh, it's like mother's milk or whatever.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, I would love a.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Even. Even just like a plain Hershey bar, which doesn't even vary that much, but, like, fresh off the Hershey bar conveyor belt. Maybe it just hits that different. I would love to do that.

[Dave Portnoy]

That would be. Go to the Twix factory. I'm go left. Yeah, man.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like a fresh. After they drizzle that like the. The caramel and then put the coat in. You know, like in the commercial, you know, when they put the. And you see it, like, pour over the sides. I want that right then and there.

[Jackie]

Is Hershey's or is Reese's. Does Hershey's own Reese's.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, actually, we're gonna be in Hershey, Pennsylvania in like a month.

[Jack]

I was about to say I've been to the factory there. It's good.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Jack]

You can go to Hershey. Like, you can go to the factory.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, we're. We're gonna be there. We're all gone.

[Jackie]

Right where we.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Hershey.

[Jackie]

Who?

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, one of the bird shows is in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

[Jack]

Can we go to the chocolate factory?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Oh, my God.

[Dave Portnoy]

And then I got one more thing. Last show we did not actually. Not last show, you said something that has stuck with me. And I've been thinking about it a lot.

[Jackie]

Jackie me.

[Dave Portnoy]

Sorry. Now you said two things that are gonna stick with me for a while.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

What did Jackie say?

[Dave Portnoy]

Jackie say Jackie always say some, I don't know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Was it her?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You told me I'm more opinionated than I used to be and I've thought about that a lot because I don't think of myself as opinionated and I think I've, I've just, I've, I've, I think opinions don't matter and so I just say what's on my mind. I don't think like, I, I, I would not consider myself opinionated, but I.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just say what I think.

[Jackie]

In your opinion, you don't.

[Dave Portnoy]

In my opinion.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I'm not.

[Jackie]

You're not.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think, I think I've been thinking about it a lot.

[Jack]

Really?

[Dave Portnoy]

Cuz like when you said I was like, I'm not.

[Jackie]

Were you offended?

[Dave Portnoy]

I wasn't offended. I was just like, huh, I wouldn't have thought that about myself.

[Jackie]

Do you, would you say the same?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think yes. And, but maybe with like the extra wrinkle is you're just more convicted, you have more conviction in your, you seem.

[Jackie]

Like a lack of fear about anybody who opposes your opinion.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I, I think that's true because I think, I think that comes with less social media that I used to think of opinions as like something that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Also, that just comes with age. And like, I think early on at Barcelona you're like worried about people liking you and making sure your opinion lines up with them and lines up with Dave and blah, blah, blah, and you grow out of that and you get rid of social media. That's a recipe for just like, yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, like when I was online all the time, I always thought of like in opinion was something like that had to be crafted, informed, and you had to present it to the public. Whereas now, oh, you know what else.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Has been part of that for you specifically? Also, like, not you specifically. You do this, everyone should do this is, it's a lot easier to just let your opinions fly if you're willing to say you're wrong. Yeah, like I have no problem being like, I, I, I was kind of like, I was so wrong on my initial opinion of Jimmy Kimmel. But I was like, all right, I'll just make a video saying that I, I was wrong, now I'm right. And, and that actually recently happened for me. Like, I've been that way. But I really came to terms. I don't know why this happened. Just age or whatever. I am like I, not that I don't care, but I'm just, I don't care about being embarrassed or being wrong or egg on my face or whatever. Like, I, I don't, I used to say, I don't care, I don't care now, you know, and I think that makes a big difference. The ability to just be like, oh, I did. I do see what you're talking about. Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

We just go, oh, I was, I thought of that. Yeah. Like, here's what I think.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I don't know why that's so hard for people to do, but it cripples like everything because then, then you are a little gun shy or you or you are. Or the. You either one or the other. You either scream it so loud so, you know, people don't disagree with you or you just bowl over them or you don't say it at all. It's easier to just be.

[Dave Portnoy]

Is that what I've found where it's just like, like you can't have a right opinion. So it's just like I'm, yeah. Reporting what I've heard in, in my experiences.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just whatever my emotions, feelings or whatever.

[Dave Portnoy]

Out in the world. You report what you've heard. We'll figure it out. In between.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, and you, and we can't figure it out if I'm not being honest with you. If I can't, if I'm not telling you what I'm really experiencing, then we can't figure it out. So like I have to do my part and say what I've seen out there. You do your part, say what you've seen.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

So nobody does it.

[Jackie]

It's actually like nowadays I realize, seriously, nobody's right in their opinion or like, or there's no right. Like everyone just has different takes on it because everyone's.

[Dave Portnoy]

I, I, I, I, I, obviously, I know I, I think of social media as a lot of the ills of the world. But like I think people are, you find your, your tribe on social media and then you try and fit all your experiences into that box to be in that tribe and it just, it's not going to work. It never works.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I actually think I'm more, I'm slightly more confident in my lack of opinions and my lack of being opinion. Like even like that's what Jimmy Kimmel thing, when we were talking on the podcast, I, people, people were sitting on me because like for the first like 20 minutes, the only thing I said was, yeah, like 200 times. Probably because I didn't want to like, speak on something that I'm not informed about.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

That's totally cool, too. It's like, just be like, I don't really know.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So I'm just gonna hit you with the ad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But is like, people will judge you for that or whatever. And it's like, you need to get to a point where you can say, I don't know or I was wrong. And that doesn't mean like, but those people are wrong.

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[Dave Portnoy]

The people who were judging me wrong. So, like, who cares if they come around like, they were wrong?

[Jackie]

I mean, they're not wrong. Like I said. Yeah, a lot. But, like, I would rather say that than speak on something that I don't actually have an opinion or that I don't actually know I'm not informed about and don't have.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I put Jack in a tough spot on that one. That was.

[Jackie]

But, I mean, I don't care because you, you. I want to hear your opinion. And then I, I just said I was listening on a podcast when you say, yeah, you know, it's not the best, but.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, but it is. I was gonna say there's like, more people that should, myself include everybody should just, like, listen a little more than spout off. Or if you do spout, like, I think your point is the correct ones. Like, yeah, you can spout off whatever. I don't know. It's like, I guess certain things, you know, it's a little irresponsible or whatever, but, like, I don't know. That's you putting more stock in when you realize your own insignificance is when you can kind of relax.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. I didn't. I didn't voice that.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yes. Like, my. Who gives a what my opinion is? Like, yeah, sure, I'll tell you. Do what you want with the information, but Like, I'm not expecting it to matter to you.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And this just happened to me, too. It was in a different. It wasn't, like, about opinions on the Internet, but it was something recently. I can't remember what it was, but I. Coming to the conclusion that I'm insignificant, like, helped in a way. It's, like, not insignificant enough. It's like, I know I'm significant enough that. Significant enough that there are people who want to hear my opinions and all that. We have our podcast, we have our videos. So it's not like, zero, but it's also like, I'm not gonna. Oh, you know what it was. This is how I justified going to Saudi Arabia for $10 million. But I. But I genuinely think there's, like, some truth to that. Is like, I me, I don't know, like, certain people probably, if you go over there, it's. It's. It's too big of a deal and not worth the money. But, like, I am so insignificant. I am not affecting the relations in the Middle east and their. Their, you know, the way they run their country, even 0.001, and the world's gonna keep going that same way. And if I just had, like, a bag of money that I could do good things with because of that, I'm okay with that. Yeah, I certainly understand the other side of it, don't get me wrong. But I actually, nothing's gonna change there.

[Dave Portnoy]

Sorry to interrupt. And you're 100, right. I think that's also something that has made me easier to share.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

My.

[Dave Portnoy]

Again, I. I don't ever think I'm sharing my opinion, but, like, the other side's right too. You know what I mean? Like, it was. I feel like, again, when I was on social media all the time, there was a right and a wrong. And, like, if you talk to a person, they have a pretty reasonable argument every time. You're like, yeah, I get why you think that way. I understand your experiences.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like we said on the last podcast, like, even if they're wrong, you have to understand that they think they're right.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like the guy, like, talking about, you have to act. Your character's hiding it, so act that way. It's like, it sounds inherently wrong, and maybe it even is. But if you were to walk a mile in their shoes, they'd be like, I think I'm doing the right thing here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And then you can at least meet them on that middle ground of, like, you know, you're dead wrong about why, what it is. But the why. I understand.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Like if you, if you're just talking to a person almost every time I've been like, I get your logic. I think you're wrong, but I get how you ended up like that. Right. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But if you're just screaming online and never going to take the time to.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right. Because it's not a person.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's not like that's, that's what the Internet is. It, it's dehumanizing everyone.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's awesome.

[Dave Portnoy]

And again, like, I don't mean it like, like it's, it's some grand scheme and it's all intentional. But like, when you're looking at Internet comment, you're not thinking that's a human also.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like literally not human. I mean, I, who knows if these things are true or not? But there was like a headline that said they think there was some forensic study.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's 1 80, 80. Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It was like 80% is like fake or like that up to 80% possible.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like I've read a different one, but it was the same thing. It's like of, of angry comments. One out of six were human.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And the other four were AI and it's like I, I, I, I actually don't even really know what it is. I just heard it for said before, like the dead Internet thing. I think I'm starting to think that's got a real possibility.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Really? Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Just because like everything, it's, everything is fake. Yeah, everything's fake. And once you realize that, you're like, who gives a shit about this? This is so dumb.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Get getting to that point of like, even like, I've been off Twitter mostly because of the Mets, but like everything that came along with it and it used to be like I needed Pabs to change the password to like, because I will go back on.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I think I've just like reached a point where I've fully left it behind. Don't care. Don't miss it. But all of these things you're talking about, whether it's like staying off of social media or getting on social media and sharing your opinion or whatever these decisions are, like, it really comes down to the confidence to do so. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just confident enough that it's like, I don't need that. That's bad for me.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It used to be like, I need to be on there because, well, I got to grow the following and I got. How am I getting my opinions out there? And it's like if this does not matter and it's again it's one thing.

[Dave Portnoy]

I say it really mean it for a decade. Like I, I really think I like I look back on myself and like I really think I was really addicted to the Internet.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I like, I think it really messed up like how I thought and it messed up my emotions and all kinds of. And there were plenty of other things that I wasn't doing good. But like I really think that really messed me up and like for 10 years straight of doing that is bad.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

There's going to be a bit, there's going to be a generation. I mean we're the extreme extreme but everyone's feeling that in some way. And man, the study that's going to come out, you know, 20 years from now is like, it's such a weird like love hate things. It's like I, I love the Internet, but it makes, I hate the Internet. I need the Internet, but I don't want the Internet. I, it's a very back and forth thing for me.

[Dave Portnoy]

I found social media and again everything is just my own experience with it. But like I found it to be so whereas you, when we learned about the Internet as kids, it was like endless possibilities. The world is open and the world is your oyster. You can find anything. I found it to become a very binary experience. It was, there was only a right and wrong and, and everything had to be one of two choices. And so it actually ends up being like an incredibly world shrinking thing where like if everything has to be between two choices, it's not a very big world. You're giving yourself an opportunity to live in there.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But then I, I also think about like a, a band to. Did. I don't know, did RC Drive have like a big Internet? Like there are people who like their dreams come true because of the Internet.

[Dave Portnoy]

We're two of them.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right. And I think, I think what happens is like you almost start to, I don't want to say take it for granted because there's a lot of negative that comes with it that it's not, it's very justified to be like, I'm.

[Dave Portnoy]

Not doing that, you know.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But once you've benefited from it, you know, it's then easier to be like, I don't need this in my life anymore. It's like there are people who are like, I need to keep doing it. And then you'll hopefully make it one day and ten years from now you'll hate it too. It's like it's kind of like the natural stuff cycle of it, but reaching that, that point of genuinely, like, the only thing that sucks is it's. There's not like an alternative. You know, I guess you could be like, I'm going to go write, like, a tangible book or something like that. I said tangible 50 times. This podcast.

[Dave Portnoy]

Really?

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I haven't said it. Like, I just said it right now. I really didn't need to say that. And I was like, I'm doing it again.

[Dave Portnoy]

I know the spot you're in. I thought that a million times. I have not been. Not, I think, at least fine.

[Jackie]

Oh, really? I. I actually think it's probably less binary. More. I feel like the past few months, I've thought there's so many opinions that. Exactly what you're saying, like, there's not even a right or wrong anymore. Yeah, but that could be wrong. Maybe. But I'm just kind of. I don't really take any bad comments as bad.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I, I did like, I anchored on that. I would, like, on anything negative, I would just anchor on it and I would never. And it wouldn't have to be about me. It would just be like a negative thing.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Thing.

[Dave Portnoy]

I read that day, and I don't do that anymore.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And like, the, the, the, the feeling or need to, like, prove someone wrong or argue your point.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Like, when you feel that way, you kind of need to go through it, like, yeah, all right. Just like fire off 50 tweets at that person or whatever. And then when you reach a point of like, this is. I used to say, like, reading comments and doing all that stuff, you're going to be a worse employee here, which means you're going to make less money and have less success. Are you really willing to do that? You're gonna, like, let your.

[Dave Portnoy]

You feel like you're working? Like, I, I honestly got. I feel like I, I feel like I'm not working. For the last two years, I've felt like I'm working less than I have in my past.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

Which. That's not saying.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Because, like, you're working more harder.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

But it just feels like we reached a point where it's like you have to be up on and commenting on every single thing when it happens that if you're not doing that, you're, like, failing or slacking. And it's like. And there is.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think that's why it's so easy to fall into. Because you feel like. I felt like I was working.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was on Twitter all day.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Well, you. But you. You also were like, in a way, but it's just not as a good use of your time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It's like you're putting, like, something on the table. Like, I'm sure a couple storylines and blogs came out of it. An argument with Dave, whatever. It's all right. That was work. But it's a lot better to stop doing that and go make a television show. It's a lot better. Stop that. Go do something that's like, you're proud of, you know, so it, but it's, it's, it's something like, I, I, I don't think I could even tell someone else. Certainly, like, someone younger. Like, don't do this. Like, I think you got to do it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I'll see you at the finish line when you're, like, sick like me. You know what I mean?

[Dave Portnoy]

I also recommend smoking cocaine. I got a lot of recommendations. Aren't going to be good for you, but you're going to make your own mistakes. You're going to have a good time.

[Jackie]

Do you guys know, like, when ego death is. What's that ego death, like, type thing that, but, like, based off or in terms of doing, like, ayahuasca or something. I'm always curious if. Because then it's apparently, like, you learn your insignificance and you're just kind of like, all right, nothing matters. And it makes everything better because you learn that nothing matters. But I also feel like I need all the ego I can get.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I think going direction is a little dicey too. Like, I don't think. I think you become, like a too hippie dippy. Like, like, we're all gonna die, so who cares? It's like, we still have to, like, behave a certain way.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Be a good person and, like, be an interesting person to just be like, I, I don't matter, so I don't think about anything and I can't have a discussion or a debate or whatever. Like, then you're not gonna learn. You're not gonna grow, you're not gonna be, you know, So I think, like, lack of ego is, like, really important. But, like, having some ego is almost equally.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, I could see for the greater good of everyone, if everyone just realized you, your opinion doesn't actually matter, that would be good. There should be, like, if you're, if you're commenting too much, you have to smoke a little bit of ayahuasca, than.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

If you don't, you're in a, you're in, like, a hallucinogenic timeout. Yeah. You need to do this and, and change.

[Jackie]

Be different.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Last. Anything else there was. I'm just looking at.

[Dave Portnoy]

Oh, I got one more. This is just. This is Shout out. Shout out. Jordan Tenson.

[Jackie]

Shout out.

[Dave Portnoy]

Shout out Jordan.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Special. Great.

[Dave Portnoy]

Special.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah, great.

[Dave Portnoy]

Great.

[Jackie]

She's so funny.

[Dave Portnoy]

Really, really. Like, I love the, the, like, I, I like the comedy obviously was incredibly funny because Jordan's incredibly funny. But like, I like the direction of it. I like, they were like, like there would be like slow zoom ins on some jokes and then like it would hit at the punchline. I was like, that wasn't great. It was. I, I think comedy kind of had its peak and it's kind of been on the down, I think. I think for like four years. We were like, these guys are the, the best. And then we were, maybe we shouldn't let him pick the president. And then the kind of people. It feels like people have stopped talking about comedy as much as they used to. And I haven't seen a special, which.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

I, I hate for someone like Jordan who. It's like, Jordan is so funny.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

And I feel like a lot of these people will be like, she's the funniest female comedian. I get that. But like, she's just like the funniest comedian.

[Dave Portnoy]

Her closing bit in this, like, everyone should have to go watch it. It was really, really, really, really great. But the whole thing is unbelievable. But whatever. But this is the first thing I've seen since I feel like comedy went on. Like, again, it's not a downtrend, but.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

It'S like worthy of talking about.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's just, it was, it was the most important thing in the world for a little while.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's not that anymore. So the first one I've seen like since then that I was like, oh, that's special because it was, there was a time where like there was 10 specials coming out a week.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Yeah. And everyone was like, you know, analyzed and discussed and talked about and propped up.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like, yeah, this one, this is like special. Go find Netflix. Go. It's great. It's so funny.

[Jackie]

I was just saying the theme of this episode is every industry's down because people overanalyzed sports.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

We went too far with it. We went too far with all of it.

[Jackie]

Music, all this.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, yeah. Everything you love is dying because everyone's.

[Jackie]

Getting too nerdy about everything.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, that's true. Great point.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

You don't really matter.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clancy (KFC)]

Just be a normal person and it'll all work out. I promise you. That's all you gotta do. Just stop. Good to go.