Tommy Smokes Responds To Rone Calling Him Schtick Poisoned - Full Episode

Summary

KFC Radio: Tommy Smokes Responds To Rone Calling Him Schtick Poisoned — Full Episode (Aug 28, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, KFC and Feitelberg bring Tommy Smokes (“America’s Sweetheart”) back onto KFC Radio to directly address Rone’s recent claim that Tommy is "shtick poisoned"—or overly dependent on bits and persona. The crew navigates the blurry lines between authentic personality, on-camera persona, and the world of recurring Barstool “bits.” They also dig deep into the mechanics of making viral content, discuss the ongoing Barstool Beach House series, the evolution of Barstool culture, fan engagement, and the crux of "boy gossip." The conversation is honest, funny, self-aware, and filled with the usual Barstool camaraderie.

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Breakdown of Key Discussion Points

1. Tommy Smokes’ “Shtick Poisoned” Label

• [01:41–04:22] Tommy is confronted with Rone’s accusation about being “too much of a bits guy,” sparking a discussion on the difference between real personality and on-camera antics.
• KFC suggests the public can't always separate Tommy’s real self from his recurring “America’s Sweetheart” bit.
• Tommy Smokes: “If you ask like Marty, Ria, Kelly, Jeff…they’d be like, ‘oh yeah, he’s acting like how he usually acts on a trip.’” [03:12]
• Dave Portnoy points out that while comedy and bits are part of Barstool culture, viewers sometimes can’t distinguish between them and reality, especially in reality show settings.

2. Content Creation & The Semantics of “Bits”

• [05:16–08:16] The hosts dissect the negative connotation attached to being a “bit guy” at Barstool, even while bits are their bread and butter.
• KFC explains: “The word bit at Barstool Sports is a super-duper negative. That is a problem…But to me, if your bit’s funny, you’re good. If your bit stinks, you’re a bit guy.” [06:15, 12:03]
• Feitelberg and Portnoy note the existential crisis performers face when their entire adult life is on camera.
• Dave Portnoy: "I do feel like for the most part, yeah, I’m a goofy guy, a little bit awkward. I make some jokes, I fuck around with people. That’s not playing it up for the camera. That’s who I am.” [07:00]

3. Blurring of On-Camera Persona & Authenticity

• [06:16–11:29] The team discusses how years at Barstool have embedded personas into real-life behaviors. Even off-camera, people can’t always tell “what’s a bit.”
• Tommy acknowledges that new viewers, seeing only “America’s Sweetheart” in captions, may assume it's his dominant personality trait, creating a feedback loop.
• KFC observes: “When you live your whole adult life on camera, a lot of these things are going to bleed together.” [12:57]

4. Barstool Content Mechanisms: Jokes, “Try Hard” Culture, and Creative Hooks

• [11:29–15:15] Discussion about the tension between being called a “try hard” versus genuinely trying hard.
• KFC praises Tommy’s efforts: “You put some thought into Tommy’s Two Cents and Tommy’s Thoughts...I guess by definition that’s a bit. And to like 99% of the world, that’s okay.” [11:29]
• They talk about how recurring jokes become “bits,” especially when repeated.

5. Taylor Swift, Pop Culture, and “The Who Cares?” Phenomenon

• [20:59–26:50] The crew dives into the recent Taylor Swift–Travis Kelce marriage news and the backlash from “I don’t care” types.
• KFC: “The ‘who cares?’ or anything of that ilk is like my number one most hated critique on the Internet. Because…the world is big enough that there’s something, somebody who cares about everything.” [21:11]
• Tommy argues it’s stranger to go out of your way to say you don’t care, calling it “cowardice.” [21:32]
• The parallels between sports fans’ emotional investment and pop culture fandom are underscored.

6. Barstool: The Gossip Factory

• [26:13–29:56] Barstool is self-described as “Bravo for dudes” and “boy gossip” central.
• Tommy: “I can't imagine that there's a more gossip place than this. No, there is. It's the seventh circle. Genuinely speaking.” [26:33]
• They debate actually rebranding KFC’s “One Minute Man” to “Boy Gossip,” and the insecurities among men about openly enjoying gossip content.

7. Insights on Making Content Seem Natural

• [33:50–35:02] The crew acknowledges that casual, seemingly off-the-cuff content (e.g., walking and talking TikToks) is more digestible for audiences than formal segments.
• KFC wonders what the “get ready with me” (GRWM) equivalent is for men, tossing out shaving or golf as male rituals to build content hooks around. [34:59]

8. Viral Metrics, Analytics, and The YouTube Game

• [48:22–53:15] Detailed conversation about the Barstool “Mascots” YouTube show’s success metrics: click-through rates, retention, and algorithmic reach.
• KFC: “20% click through rate with a 13-minute average watch time is bonkers. That’s top 1% performance.” [49:58]
• Tommy stresses he cares most that people like the show, not just chasing analytics: “Obviously numbers matter… but like people seem to like it.” [53:15]
• The value of staggered weekly releases vs. Netflix-style dumping is debated ("the talk would be over" if all episodes went up at once). [53:08]

9. The Art of Making Low-Budget Comedy Look Big

• [61:14–65:13] The cast emphasizes the community aspect—most cameos are unpaid and done for fun or goodwill, which they feel helps creative freedom.
• Discussion on “imposter syndrome” when it comes to asking people to join sketches and the value of maintaining an “exclusive” air.

10. Acting at Barstool & Everyone’s a Performer

• [67:02–68:36] Tommy and KFC reflect how everyone at Barstool develops decent on-camera acting chops, often without realizing (“Miyagi’d”).
• Jackie is praised for naturalism; Samuel L. Jackson’s acting masterclass is invoked (“I don’t know man, pretend.”).

11. Miscellaneous: Candy, Facial Hair, and the Ben Shapiro Lift Challenge

• [77:11–78:15] Tommy reveals his “dry aged” chocolate tip: letting Three Musketeers bars air out for 2 days for optimal texture.
• Facial hair maintenance and woes about going gray discussed.
• [79:31–82:45] The gang debates whether Ben Shapiro can actually bench 200lbs, and what height/weight/arm length mean for benching prowess.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• KFC on Bits vs. Realness:
  "The word bit at Barstool Sports is a super-duper negative. That is a problem…But to me, if your bit’s funny, you’re good. If your bit stinks, you’re a bit guy." — [12:03]

• Dave Portnoy on Authenticity:
  "I do feel like for the most part, yeah, I’m a goofy guy, a little bit awkward. I make some jokes, I fuck around with people. That’s not playing it up for the camera. That’s who I am." — [07:00]

• Tommy Smokes on Persona vs. Reality:
  “We live in a very gray world…That’s why none of us have a true sense of self and we don’t know how to behave in the real world.” — [15:13]

• On Barstool's Gossip Culture:
  "Barstool is…the seventh circle [of gossip]." — Tommy Smokes [26:33]
  "It's always been Kardashian for guys, Bravo for guys. However you want to describe that." — KFC [27:17]

• Tommy’s “America’s Sweetheart” Bit:
  "I made one video calling myself it and then it did pick up some steam. People started calling me America’s Sweetheart." — [07:46]

• On Repetitive Jokes:
  "Jokes become bits when they're repetitive." — KFC [12:24]

• On the Success of “Mascots” (YouTube Show):
  "[The show] is getting like a 66% completion with a 20% click — that's like top 1% performance." — KFC [49:58]

• On Acting at Barstool:
  “I think everyone at Barstool Sports is a good actor. Between, like, ad reads, podcasting, Tiktok…just being comfortable with a camera and lights.” — Tommy Smokes [68:21]

• Candy Expertise:
  “I know I like my chocolate like two day dry aged…” — Tommy Smokes [77:11]

• On GRWM for Men:
  "Maybe that's what I'll do with Boy Gossip. What do we do that’s like makeup?" — KFC [34:51]

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Important Timestamps

• [01:41] — Tommy reacts to “shtick poisoned” claim
• [05:16] — Discussion: bits, jokes, Barstool’s negative semantics
• [07:00] — Dave Portnoy on authenticity vs. persona
• [12:03] — KFC: “If your bit’s funny, you’re good”
• [20:59] — Taylor Swift/Kelce pop culture chat
• [26:33] — “Barstool is the seventh circle [of gossip]”
• [34:51] — Brainstorming male “get ready with me” hooks
• [49:58] — KFC breaks down “Mascots” (YouTube) viral metrics
• [53:08] — Value of weekly content drops for buzz
• [61:14] — Making low-budget content with friends, goodwill
• [68:09] — Barstool talent: “acting” merits and Masterclass
• [77:11] — Tommy’s “dry aged candy” tip
• [79:31] — Ben Shapiro bench press discussion

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Recap & Takeaway

This episode masterfully blends meta commentary on “internet persona” with candid, behind-the-scenes insights into what it’s actually like to live—and create—inside Barstool’s pressure cooker. Listeners get a front-row seat to both Tommy’s defense (and self-examination) over being “bits” obsessed, and a clever breakdown of why Barstool is the way it is. There’s robust engagement on what it means to be funny, real, and respected in the current digital age, along with plenty of classic KFC Radio offbeat banter and barroom hypotheticals.

For anyone trying to understand Barstool’s culture, or the paradoxes of being “yourself” online for a living, this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

[KFC]

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[Tommy Smokes]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Dave hits you with an R O F L O L. Just playing the good work.

[KFC]

It's another edition of KFC radio on the Barstool sports network. We got America's sweetheart Tommy back in the mix, AKA the the buffet of bits guy who was. He just got off of roan.com where roan accused him of being too much of a bits guy. That's why what Dave was doing the filter ranking people from beach house and you were at the bottom.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Not because of that. Like.

[KFC]

No, no, no, no.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, whatever Dave, he knows I could take up my. So that's totally different.

[Tommy Smokes]

But he had.

[Dave Portnoy]

He had the Three Stooges, Frankie, Trent and Riggs into rome.com and they were.

[Tommy Smokes]

What do you think Tommy has to do to get off 10 to Dave's list?

[Dave Portnoy]

Everyone was like, he's. He's too lost in the sauce of the bits. He can't tell what's real, what's not. You know, it's just. He's too lost in the sauce.

[Tommy Smokes]

Can I ask you a beach house question, please?

[Ad Read Announcer]

What do you think Tommy Smokes has to do to get out of the basement of the Dave Portnoy rankings? Dead last?

[KFC]

Yeah, I think he needs to. I think he needs to. I mean, what's the polite way to say he needs to fuck something and he needs to fuck something. He needs to fuck something. He needs to. He needs to go ahead and like, stop being bit, Tommy, you. You know what I mean? Like, he's so shtick poisoned that, like he doesn't know when he's being serious. Like, he's like, no, I'm being serious right now. But it's like in the most Tommy bited out way possible now look. Yeah, exactly.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I said, listen, sometimes. Yes, that's true, but I can get too much the bit. It's something I've tried to work on. Again, I do think in general there's a difference between bits and jokes and content. And people like to throw the word, oh, that's a bit around. It's like, no, that's. We're an on camera comedy company. Like, we make jokes like that. It's not. Everything's a bit specifically on Beach House because it is a reality show. I've been like, I want to be the realest version of myself. It's just cameras on 24, seven for. For four straight days. And I think I've done that. I think I made a concerted effort to do that. I think I've acted how I normally act. Like I said, if you ask, like Marty, Ria, Kelly, Jeff, like people I've gone on trips with to the shore or Hamptons, they'd be like, oh, yeah, he's acting like how he usually acts on a trip.

[KFC]

So.

[Dave Portnoy]

So when Rowan was like, Tommy's. All he's doing is bits on this trip, I just said, can you give me some specific examples? Like if there's so many, you should have 10, 15 ready to go. And he didn't really have them ready to go. And now listen, he's right. Maybe in general. And I've thought about even doing a new smoke show season where it's like, I try to find myself. I have a therapist. I'm waiting to see if it gets sold. But I think specifically in the context of the beach house, I've purposely tried to be as much as myself as possible and I think I've done that. So I was annoyed when he said I had to.

[Tommy Smokes]

Would you say you're riled up about it? Yes.

[KFC]

And this isn't like, did he strike a nerve?

[Tommy Smokes]

Were you actually mad?

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, not like, fuming, but I was like, it bothered me because I was like, I feel like he should know this. Like, Ro knows me. We're good friends. Off camera. Like, I feel like he should see and I've talked about it. I feel like he should, he should understand what, what I'm saying.

[Tommy Smokes]

Okay, if I could take the other side here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, let's, let's counterpoint.

[Tommy Smokes]

I'm genuinely like, I'm not trying to you up. Like, what I see from the beach house, which is not a lot, to be fair, is lot. Like, what I see from you from the beach house is largely America's sweetheart. So I think that's America.

[KFC]

Sweetheart is a bit.

[Tommy Smokes]

Sure.

[KFC]

But like, it's your, it's your, like, umbrella. It's overarching. So maybe I can't give like, 20 examples, but I would be like, if I were to run down, like, everyone's, you know, they're the, they're the couple. Dante's the old guy. It'd be like, Tommy's America's sweetheart. That's his bit.

[Fights]

No, I'll give.

[Tommy Smokes]

Well, good.

[Fights]

No, I was just gonna say as being.

[KFC]

You're looking skinny, girl.

[Fights]

Oh, thanks. Oh, my God.

[Dave Portnoy]

Don't look like a dead body.

[Tommy Smokes]

Y.

[Fights]

As somebody in the beach house and as somebody who knew you before as bits because of, like, whatever I have thought multiple times. Oh, you're really naturally funny.

[KFC]

And like, well, that's really what I, you know, the problem here? It's a semantics thing. The word bit is the problem.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yes.

[KFC]

The word bit at Barstool sports is a super duper negative. That is a problem. The buffet of bits. Guy Dave doesn't like bits. You, you get know someone says you're doing a bit, but if I were to say, like, oh, Nate Parati has a bit about blah, blah, blah. That's like the highest pr. You know, I, I, I love that stuff. So it's really what you just said, Tommy. It's like jokes. But again, it goes back to the barstool thing where it's like, we're at least. The first iteration of barstool was just like, give your take. What are your thoughts? What are your opinions? Not think of an angle that is humorous, that you're going to play a role or continue to say. It's just, you know, just, just talk. And it's like, yeah, no, I've crafted, I put into crafting this. Like, I would if I had to, like, sum it up like this overly confident, like braggadocious, but like goofy guy, whatever, you know. But that's far off from who you are.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

And that's, that's what's interesting about Barstool when you, I don't think a lot of people realize, minus like two of us like me and Dave and a couple of the original like Jerry Thornton writers, whatever, almost everybody here has like lived their entire adult life at Barstool.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[KFC]

So it's like, you know, you guys need like a Inception top to spin.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's exactly what Rick said.

[KFC]

It's like you, you're, you know, you have a bit or an angle or a Persona that is probably like 90 you. But then you trump it up for cameras. And so where, where does the bit stop and begin and all that stuff?

[Dave Portnoy]

That's a real existential crisis that I.

[Tommy Smokes]

Have quite often, dude.

[KFC]

It's a real thing.

[Dave Portnoy]

I do feel like for the most part, yeah, I, I'm a goofy guy, a little bit awkward. I make some jokes, I, around with people. That's not playing it up for the camera. That's who I am. Whether cameras are.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Or not.

[Tommy Smokes]

But yeah. Well, I, I think what you get when getting lost in the sauce, I think it is like you forget how most people are only getting a quick glimpse.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So like I, I fully, I totally believe you.

[KFC]

Or first time viewers by the way. Like people who don't know. You know what I mean? Well, I guess you would actually have to know them to know if it's keep going.

[Tommy Smokes]

I'm sorry but like the, like, I, I, I don't, I, I haven't seen much but just like I, I consider America sweetheart a bit. And I'm sure when you're not doing America Sweetheart, you're doing tons of stuff. And I also like bits.

[KFC]

So I think American Sweetheart is a great thing.

[Tommy Smokes]

I think it's a great.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So I mean, it's like I made.

[Dave Portnoy]

One video calling myself it and then it did pick up some steam. People started calling me America.

[Tommy Smokes]

Sweet.

[KFC]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean would you be like, you.

[Tommy Smokes]

Know, one bite is Dave's bit.

[KFC]

It's like, yeah, it's like it is his bit. Totally.

[Dave Portnoy]

But it's just like a joke. It's a funny joke.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like that's like, that's just like, I feel like we're, we just throw out bit as a negative when it's like sometimes things are just jokes and they're for content.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yes. America's Sweetheart is a good bit. I can See how people could misconstrue. That's all. Tommy is doing that also.

[KFC]

If I were to.

[Dave Portnoy]

We're like. I've been talking about like. And it's real. Like I do feel now weird where like I've. I've hooked up with a couple girls down there and then.

[Tommy Smokes]

Was that real?

[Dave Portnoy]

Yes. Okay.

[KFC]

So I thought that was real. I was watching with somebody who was like, this is a bit. Who. This is a bit. And it was like, who are you watching? And I was just like. No, I. I think Tom. But the. The caption and the title on the screen.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, I didn't like those.

[KFC]

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. That was like.

[Tommy Smokes]

That's what I was gonna say too is.

[KFC]

But I thought you were being real in that moment.

[Dave Portnoy]

I was awkward.

[KFC]

He's sitting alone at the bar being like, girl I hooked up with last weekend's here. Girl I hooked up with like the weekend before is both here. And like I'm feeling a little awkward. I kind of feel bad about it. I don't want like to hurt anybody's feelings. Like this is very real. But the caption and the words was like, Tommy smokes, gets too much, feels bad about it. So I was like. Was that. But so that. I think that's.

[Tommy Smokes]

That's the thing. Because that's. That's what I get. Like that. Yeah. That's how you're consuming factor in. There's a good amount of people like me totally. Where it's like my. My consumption of beach house is more or less captions.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

I'll scroll by and I'll see. And every viva caption mentions America sweetheart.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So like I just assume America's sweetheart happened all the time.

[KFC]

And. But I mean if you were to watch it and. And I know like I. I know Tommy. So I was like, this seems very real. But if you don't know him that well or you are just reading the captions or whatever, it could come across as a bit. I. I don't know. It's actually. I. I don't think any of this is negative, by the way. I think this is a very. Just like interesting. This is the content world of like what's real. What's not.

[Dave Portnoy]

Are you try hard show weird. Like, you know, everything's confuddled, right?

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah, it's confud.

[KFC]

I always think it's very interesting. Like. No, no, like for sure.

[Tommy Smokes]

I can't believe you asked. I was gonna let it slide.

[KFC]

Like it means exactly what you are trying to say.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, but it's not a word. No, you should be.

[Fights]

Shakespeare made a jimmy for it.

[Tommy Smokes]

Made it?

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And then you copy.

[Tommy Smokes]

We were.

[Dave Portnoy]

We had a random rack of ribs. One of our biggest clips, by the way, where the ghost rack of ribs. And me and Jack are like investigating like where the. Did a random like freshly sauced rack of ribs get on our deck. On our deck. It was like 9am and I was like, whoever did it, like they ate it and then they made a jimmy for it. Like I just, I meant to say jiffy and I mess it up and then like 30 seconds later Jackie goes, yeah, like they made a jimmy for it.

[Tommy Smokes]

And I was like, Jackie, I think.

[Dave Portnoy]

I made that up by mistake.

[Tommy Smokes]

And you copied it back with.

[Jackie]

It's like watching Picasso paint.

[KFC]

They can fuddle the jimmy.

[Fights]

I think that you're right about making a jimmy. It's not jiffy. There is something that we're not getting, but it's.

[KFC]

I don't think you're using either of those words right. Okay. Left him Jiffy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fights]

But you made a jimmy for it. I think he might be spot on.

[Dave Portnoy]

There might be something there.

[KFC]

I don't know.

[Tommy Smokes]

I. I've never heard the jimmy.

[Dave Portnoy]

But then he made a jimmy.

[Fights]

I. I also think that the bits thing like before beach house is not to be confused with. You make just some of like the best curated content that like it's like pre meditated or. Yeah, no, you know what I mean?

[KFC]

Like Tommy, like this is where like when people say try hard, there's a. There's a fine line between like being a try hard and trying hard. You know what I mean? It's like. Yeah, I think you put some thought into Tommy's two cents and Tommy's thoughts and some of these like Seinfeldian type, you know, observational humor. Like you're thinking about it and then you do it. I guess by definition that's a bit. And to like 99 of the world, that's okay. In this one little bubble, saying that it's a bit is like, you know, a kill shot. It's like assassinating your character.

[Fights]

But no, I think that you're one of the best hangs in the house and you.

[KFC]

All right, enough. He's a big guy. He's a big. You know what I mean? Really? Just like anything else, sports, whatever else, like just win. If your bit's funny, you're good. If your bit stinks, you're a bit guy.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like even something where it's like so like Annika walks out and I'm like, oh, you're serving country, leaving no crumbs. Like, okay, is that a bit, like, that's a joke? Like, when I think I said the same thing to Ria in the Hamptons, like, two.

[KFC]

Yeah, but you know what? I think that's where I think jokes become bits when they are repetitive. Like, like, that sounds just like any girl could walk in.

[Dave Portnoy]

And you would say that I just like to do. Like, that's funny. Yeah, like, I just like to do that.

[KFC]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's not a bit. That's.

[KFC]

But, But I would say, like, so.

[Dave Portnoy]

Cameras are on or not.

[KFC]

So, like, if, if Anaka walked in and John said, you're serving, you left no crumbs. I think I would be like, whoa, like, that's clearly a joke. And like, whoa, if you said that, I'd be like, that's what Tommy would say to a hot girl.

[Tommy Smokes]

That's out of character.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

For you.

[KFC]

But it's in character or just in line with.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

I mean, yeah, it's when you, like, live your. Basically your whole adult life on camera, a lot of these things are going to bleed together where it's like, I do that for comedic effect, and I want you to laugh. But also, like, if there are no cameras on and whatever, that's who I.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, but, yeah, no, I mean, I don't know where actually, though, would you.

[KFC]

Pre barstool if a hot chick walked in, like, a dorm room at Fordham, would you have been like, girl, you're serving con. You left no crumbs.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know if that was a phrase back then.

[KFC]

Yeah, but, like, but you. Would you behave that way with a, like, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, my true, like, my true friends.

[KFC]

Back in the posse days, I would.

[Dave Portnoy]

Always, like, I think, I mean, you know, maybe not that exactly like that.

[Fights]

Now, that falls into the America sweetheart category, which falls into bit category, because it's like, oh, you go, oh, you ate. Left no crumbs. Now that's, oh, you're being nice to the girl.

[Dave Portnoy]

But, like, what should I say? Should I not say anything? Like, maybe.

[Tommy Smokes]

No.

[KFC]

Again, none of this is like, you know, I, I, I'm assuming I'm not.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I'm not. I'm not saying that to you. I'm saying that to my hypothetical.

[Jackie]

You're in Haters.

[KFC]

Yeah, I, I, I think, you know, Rowan was probably saying it with a negative connotation. I haven't seen it, but I'm sure he was implying that and, like, that was part of his show, but I don't think any of this is like. I think it's just an interesting discussion on the content world. You know, I think if you were like, an insufferable, annoying, not funny, constant, like the buffet of bits guy was like, this sucks, you know, but if you're good at it, then it's just.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, still getting ricochet seven years later.

[KFC]

Also, you got to know, like, you can't, like, announce your, like, I don't know, you have to, like, get some. Not credibility, but some, like, goodwill with the people a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, you've earned enough slack to, like, do some of your bits.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like that. If somebody just walks in, I don't know you at all, and you're clearly like, you know, at least hyping up your. Your Persona or whatever. I don't know. It's. It's off putting. But when it's like, this is just a tried and true track record for Tommy. It's just how he does his content.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Yeah.

[KFC]

That's not bad. It's a. The. The, like, I mean, I feel like it's kind of a running joke, especially if anybody is in a relationship at parcel. It's always sort of like, that's not the real me, baby. Like, that's just like, I'm doing that for the camera. And. But. And then. But there is, like, some truth to, like, I don't really think all those things, but I'm not fully lying. It's, you know, that back and forth.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, very much a.

[KFC]

A.

[Tommy Smokes]

A gray world we live in.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So we're all depressed.

[KFC]

That's why none of us have a true sense of self and we don't know how to behave in the real world.

[Tommy Smokes]

None of our compasses point do north, bro. My compass is, like, going every which way.

[KFC]

I guess. Big, you know, big congratulations to you for the wedding, Taylor.

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh.

[KFC]

I mean, we had, you know, we had a real Greer wedding. We had a fake Jackie wedding, and now we're gonna have a Taylor Swift wedding.

[Tommy Smokes]

Taylor Swift wedding. It's exciting.

[KFC]

Was that you running to find Keeks?

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. We were sitting there.

[KFC]

I heard the shoes clapping, and I was like, those are hard shoes. And then I noticed, like, it was your Twitter video. You weren't like, quote, tweeting someone. It was like, that's a Feidelberg original.

[Fights]

I was like, on Beach House production.

[KFC]

Yeah. Quickly I was thinking, like, wait, that was like a meek performance.

[Tommy Smokes]

You guys are completely wrong. I said, actually after this video because we Were sitting there. It was, it was, it was definitely me. Nate and Keegs. Robbie Fox might have been there too, but he's popped up.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh my God. Oh my God. And then she's like kind of started walking away and, and I think, I think Nate joked like his tree pain calling you and, and but we, I, I don't know. If it was just me, I probably wouldn't have thought much of it. Yeah, I would just stayed sitting there and Nate was like, someone should film this. So I got up and, and started running and you can hear obviously footsteps. I ran four desk lens. Oh, that was your breath, Kelly. No, that's me, bro.

[KFC]

I'll tell you right now, if, if there was an iPhone that was like double the price, but it had some sort of breath like suppressants. Cuz if I'm ever like walking, just walking and making a video, I'm like.

[Tommy Smokes]

I called my mom yesterday walking home. I, I, I didn't have headphones with me and I was walking like three blocks with my hand like this.

[KFC]

You like, I like, I like lose my, it goes too fast.

[Tommy Smokes]

You know, it wasn't even breath. It was. I, I, I gotta call you back. My arm is tired. Literally can't walk and talk like I'm gassed right now. I'll call. I get to help clean the apartment, get my headphones back.

[Fights]

I would say that there should be some kind of like AI where if you're at a concert and you're filming and then you can hear your singing in the background, it takes out your sign.

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh, that was still the I still think we should do that. That could be our carpool karaoke one day. The when you got to do what if you lose a bet? You got to do the sing a concert with a hot mic and you got to sing like, you know, like when they, when it leaves. Like this is what they're they're like.

[KFC]

So just the isolated. Aud.

[Tommy Smokes]

There ain't no lie, baby.

[KFC]

It is crazy how if you sing along with a song, at least I am like I think I sound okay, you know? And then if that's not there, it's.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, oh my, they could kill Nicholas tomorrow. 98 degrees would be just fine.

[KFC]

Have you seen them recently, by the way?

[Tommy Smokes]

No, no, bro.

[KFC]

I mean hats off to Dick Lache and the and the boys for still for still doing it. And they are like 50, but they look every bit of it like because they're still trying to do kind of like boy band dance routines. But it's almost Turning more into like the four, four, the four seasons, four tops. You know what I mean? Like yeah, you're like almost like a doo wob group like spinning and like replacing each other and stuff.

[Tommy Smokes]

And it's like oh man, Frankie valley with a 98 degrees tattoo.

[KFC]

Yeah, exactly like that.

[Tommy Smokes]

Exactly.

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[Tommy Smokes]

I, I, I actually what we're saying today, I watch more college football than I watch NFL. I don't pay attention no more. It's on, it's just on Saturdays but like NFL football I'm watching more but like my is on college football basically all day Saturday because like you get, you wake up Pre games on 10.

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[Dave Portnoy]

The Taylor Swift thing, that's another thing I was a little bit fired up about.

[Tommy Smokes]

The.

[Dave Portnoy]

The people who go out of their way to be like, I don't care about this. They're bigger losers than like absolutely swifties in the world.

[KFC]

That is the, the who cares? Or that anything of that ilk is like my number one. I most hated critique on the Internet because first of all, if we've learned anything, the Internet is big enough and the world is big enough that there's something, somebody who cares about everything.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And this is like so many people care for a reason. And like what. And then, you know what bothers me.

[Tommy Smokes]

Is the cowardice of it. Take ownership. Say, I don't care. Yes, yes, you don't care.

[KFC]

You're just assuming.

[Dave Portnoy]

There's plenty of people that generally don't care. That's totally fine. Yeah, like, I saw a video, I think Kelly quote retweeted like this office somewhere and everyone's like, who? Yeah, I don't like, you guys are pathetic. Like, it, it's undeniably a huge, like the biggest pop star in the world got married to one of the biggest NFL players in the world. You know, I'm not saying you gotta cry and throw a parade, but like to pretend like this is stupid. Anyone cares.

[KFC]

It clearly does bother them. Like it, it affects, it affects them more than like it affects the Kelly's and the GIAs the most. You know, and then there's like regular people and then like those, those guys I think are more affected than the average person because clearly it's affecting you to the point that you perform or lie and say you don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's like politics where it's like, where's the middle ground? That's what I'm looking for with the Taylor Swift. Where are the people that are like, oh, that's nice. And like that's it. Like, they're just like, that was nice. That's cool. I like the Instagram post.

[Tommy Smokes]

Well, that video, the video you're specifically referring to that Keys quote tweeted. I watched it and I Kind of thought that's what they were doing. I thought the. Once again, I thought the caption was misleading. Not Kee's is the main caption. And I. So then I watched it, and there were. Let's say they asked 10 people. Three of them were like, why the fuck would I give? But, like, seven of them were like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's a totally normal and fair reaction.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, it wasn't everybody in the video, but there were some people who were.

[KFC]

Like, who I was more that I saw people, quote, tweeting it being like, this is the place I could work at.

[Tommy Smokes]

Those are the people. This is what I mean. No one actually watched the video. If you watch the video, 70% of them have a completely normal reaction.

[KFC]

I also think that good for them. I don't know what that job was, but it led me to believe they were not, like, Taylor Swift people. And you know what I mean? If you went to, like, a office in San Francisco, everyone's doing, like, coding or something. I could see some people being like, I don't even know who Taylor Swift is because they're aliens, you know? But everyone else in America should at least just be like, oh, okay. Like, that's news.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, I've certainly heard of them. Good for them.

[KFC]

Yeah. Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

And, like, for the fact, like, you know, Taylor Swift's and, like, most of her music is about, like, guys and breakups and stuff. It's like, now she found the guy. The one story.

[KFC]

Right. Yeah. That, to me, that. That just drives me. And also, like, the. The people who complain about Taylor Swift's emotion will, like, legitimately cry over sports.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like, I just can't get past that. It's like, if you watch me in the gambling cave when the Mets are in the playoffs, there could not be a more sassy, dramatic in the whole world than me.

[Tommy Smokes]

Maybe.

[KFC]

Maybe to my left, Frank, you know what I mean? Like, we are crying, screaming, fighting, you know, like, heart rate through the roof, day, week ruined, or life made.

[Tommy Smokes]

No, it's different. It's different. I care about these people.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So it's different.

[Dave Portnoy]

It is slightly different where, like, sports have, like, concrete results.

[KFC]

No, it's really not different.

[Dave Portnoy]

But, like, there's a clear result in a sport. My team won, my team lost. Like, like, Taylor Swift getting engaged is a huge, like, victory, I guess. But I think in general, celebrities, like.

[Tommy Smokes]

But we got, like. We made a huge deal when Tom Brady got engaged like that.

[KFC]

Yeah. With wives and girlfriends. They get obsessed with any sort of, like, off the field sports gives you a little bit of a, of a outcome where it's like, you know, not just a song which is subjective. There's a right or wrong, there's a win or lose sort of thing. But the emotion that we and the investment that we have for like random people, you know, like the biggest critique is always like you don't, you don't know that person. Like why are you, why does that affect you so much? Like you don't know Tom Brady. I mean, I guess that's some of you guys actually do now, but you know what I mean? Like, like you don't know him. Why are you so excited or whatever. It's like these are all just made up. All of this.

[Tommy Smokes]

Is that make me feel excited.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

The worst comment is the one that's.

[KFC]

How does this affect your life at all?

[Jackie]

It's like you're only excited about things.

[KFC]

That directly affect your life.

[Jackie]

Weird. Dude.

[Tommy Smokes]

Nothing affects my life.

[KFC]

Literally. There's like three things.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like the only thing literally nothing affects. Yeah. And I don't mean that me specifically. I mean like most people can say that literally nothing affects you.

[KFC]

Yeah, well, nothing in the news. No, they can't admit it. Most people. You're right.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I mean if you say we about a sports team, you're about as kooky and parasocial weirdo as Taylor Swift fans are. You know, it's like you think you're a part of the team and I, I'm.

[Tommy Smokes]

I.

[KFC]

Or, or the people call radio like they owe them. Like these athletes owe me or something. You know, it's like that's crazy.

[Tommy Smokes]

I pay their paycheck. It's the funny story. You pay what? When, when people say that about athletes or about cops. Because like I pay your salary. You paid five bucks. Shut up. To pretend you own a person over. This is deranged.

[KFC]

I think all of that is as.

[Jackie]

Crazy as fans like calling to action today. Be like fire this person. Like how does that affect your life?

[KFC]

Well, that, that is also what's funny about, about Barstool is like the, the, you know, a die hard Barstool fan will probably be the biggest like Taylor Swift hater and they are the most gossipy, salacious. You know with Barstool it's like, I mean, who are they dating or what's going on or who's fighting, who likes who, all that. It's like you're just doing it for guy. It's boy gossip.

[Tommy Smokes]

I, I genuinely believe like, I, I can't imagine that there's a more gossip replaced than this. No, there is. It's the seventh circle. Genuinely speaking, like. Right. Because we're, we're very open about it. It's a big company. I don't think there's anywhere that gossips like we gossip.

[Dave Portnoy]

Are you saying as. As I'm talking employees or the fans?

[Tommy Smokes]

Employees. Fans. Like, is there another identity? Is there another, like, entity, organization, Like.

[KFC]

I was just gonna say Bravo. Like the Bravo universe might be, but.

[Tommy Smokes]

That'S level for guys.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Which is always kind of what I said.

[Dave Portnoy]

Successful is like, while, like, it might be annoying to be like, well, this person wants me fired. What the.

[KFC]

Come on, go.

[Dave Portnoy]

Go do your job. But like, the reason Barcelona successful is that people.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

So it is a double edged.

[KFC]

It's like sports. It's like. Yeah. When you tell an athlete, like, hey, you know, I know these fans are terrible, but it's because they like, love you and if you ever win, you'll be the God, right now you're the goat or the loser, you know? Know. So, I mean, yeah, I, I think the. It's always been Kardashian for guys, Bravo for guys. However you want to describe that.

[Tommy Smokes]

We said that. When I said it, I kind of.

[KFC]

Was like, I don't know about Bravo, but I, I mean, I've definitely made the comparison.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Because Kardashians also kind of represent that who cares Thing.

[Tommy Smokes]

And it's like, when I heard it, I had like a little. Was it deja vu? Yeah, I feel like I've heard that before.

[KFC]

Yeah. I mean, it's boy gossip, folks.

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[Tommy Smokes]

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[KFC]

I've been, I. I've been talking through. What do you think of boy gossip? You. You. You had to run out. I, I think it's great, but I'm worried that if, like, I was like, legitimately Considering, like, making it the name. Putting. Putting in the caption, making an account, whatever it is. But I feel like there are still, like, a bunch of insecure guys who would be like, I don't follow Boy Gossip.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, I think it's a funny name, but, like, are those people my market anyway? Those people, like, who are like, I'm not, like, then they're not in it already?

[KFC]

Probably. Yeah. I'm just wondering if, like, you were to come across something for the first time and it's just me or One Minute man, whatever, and it's a topic you're, like, mildly interested in, you would watch it. But if it says, like, boy gossip or that's the name of the account, I think there's still unfortunately enough of a group of guys being like, I.

[Tommy Smokes]

Don'T watch that we might need a focus group.

[KFC]

I honestly kind of do need a focus.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, that would not affect me, but.

[KFC]

Right. But we're also, like, the people who don't care about that, and we're a little bit gay.

[Tommy Smokes]

It would affect me the first time. It depends on me. Like, it would have to keep feeding it to me.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Eventually it would get me.

[KFC]

Right.

[Tommy Smokes]

But, like, I wouldn't follow it the first time.

[KFC]

Right.

[Tommy Smokes]

But I wouldn't follow. I'm very unique where, like, there's nothing I would really follow the first time.

[KFC]

Right. I always try to think of, like. And this is. You can't really focus on, like, the extremes, but, like, you know, would Billy McCusker follow boy gossip? He probably wouldn't follow One Minute man either. So, like. But. But there are, you know, I have a. You know, looking at my audience, there are. There are people sometimes who will.

[Tommy Smokes]

But actually, sorry to interrupt you because I'm thinking more through it. I think it would be. It would make me more inclined to follow it the second time because it's like, oh, I think the first time I'd go, boy gossip. What the is that? And the second time I go, I like it again. Yeah.

[KFC]

You'Re looking in the mirror at that point.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

But I. I really think think, like, we are way more secure or whatever you want to call it with that stuff. The fact that that, like, actually impacts people is crazy, but I think it does.

[Dave Portnoy]

But it is almost like a form of. Of fighting, bullying, where it's like, if you're making the joke yourself, they can't.

[KFC]

Even say because, like, be rabbit.

[Dave Portnoy]

Now. They might be like, oh, this is just boy gossip. But if you're like, this is boy gossip.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's also, like, how the Internet makes you feel like everyone's watching you at all times. Because, like, my hesitancy to follow it would be people will go through my following and see I follow it.

[KFC]

This is what I mean.

[Tommy Smokes]

They don't. I know, but no one. People will think you think that, and.

[KFC]

Other people will think that way. And just.

[Tommy Smokes]

Just being online is like being in the high school cafeteria looking for your table, where you're like, everyone is staring at me. I could look like a loser. Where are my friends? No one is looking at you.

[KFC]

No. And also when people are on the Internet, you're like. Like, when you're with your friends, you act one way. When you're with your family, you act another way. When you know. And then you get on the Internet and you're. And like, like all of those people are looking at you at once.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

And I feel like at least some people are trying to, like, I don't want my parents to see that, but I got to be funny for my friends. There's no way you can make, like, one thing for everybody. Right. Right. You know, so you gotta just like, what you're.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I will say, like, your. Your videos aren't just about men.

[KFC]

No. No.

[Dave Portnoy]

You're more like a boy doing gossip.

[KFC]

Right. Well, that's. I. I view it as, like, gossip that Boys. Men. It's also weird to say boys would.

[Dave Portnoy]

Also, like, unfortunately hits a lot harder than men.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah's not gonna do it. Yeah. Bad gossip is like a. Those retreats.

[KFC]

Yeah. Right. The Navy SEAL, like, crying. Yeah.

[Fights]

Would you, like, rebrand one minute man? So it's just like, that's kind of.

[Tommy Smokes]

I'm.

[KFC]

I'm debating, like, everything from just putting a hashtag at the end to changing the name entirely or something in between where I don't. I don't need to do any of this, but, like, it's been like, one minute man. In the beginning, used to have, like, a title card and an end card. And then. Then I just stopped doing that because it was a waste of time. And I think it was kind of understood. I think most people just probably watch my videos being like, that's a KFC video. But for the sake of sales and these and, you know, putting it in, like, putting a nice little bow on it, you know, be like, what is this? And you say it's boy gossip and stuff that, like, it's gossipy, but topics and. And said in a way that guys would relate to, like, talk about.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's very succinct. Like, it's just like, they like, it's an issue. We've run into our entire careers where it's like, what's KFC Radio?

[KFC]

It's like, it's a good elevator.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Well, it's barstool sports.

[KFC]

Sports.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, that's what you and your friends sit around talking about. Bar. Like you. Once you finally get like that thing. Thing, then you're like, it's actually I was talking about on Chicklets the other night because it's the same thing with. With mascots where it was like, we knew it was a show. When Pav said it's Entourage, but with Vince didn't exist, we were like, ah, okay.

[KFC]

It's a good pitch. Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

And like, boy, gossip's like, there it is. Okay. It's easy.

[KFC]

But the mere fact I think Lamar, when he. When he said it was like, no, I like them. It's a good thing.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

The fact that he even had to do that, like, no, no, not. It's not an insult. It's like, well, that's kind of the point.

[Fights]

Point. I also alternatively think that One minute, man, it kind of tells you in it, like, hey, we're getting one minute.

[KFC]

Yeah, there is some, you know, value.

[Fights]

My friend, literally yesterday was telling me about his Tick Tock account that he just made, and he was like, basically like, break down these topics in one minute. And then he kept going. He's like, I think, yeah, he's like, I think I'm like really onto something. Like, I don't think that anyone's doing this. And I went along with it. And then he said it the third time, I go, hey, just so you.

[Tommy Smokes]

Know, I edit those videos. Yeah.

[KFC]

One of the creators of that so much. But also that concept is. I didn't like invent that. It's just like talk about things in a quick. Well, I mean, I mean, maybe I like did it first, but I'm just saying, like the idea of like, here's the news quickly. I don't think anyone can say they own that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think that like, the. The branding and titling thing matters less now than it ever did.

[KFC]

Totally. Well, like, I think to the audience, with people, but I think to sales and she's like, that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I know, but I should realize, like the audience right now, I think it's almost a deterrent. Like if you're scrolling through Tick Tock and it's like, oh, this is in episode.

[KFC]

Welcome to my show.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, even with like, you know, I would do Tommy's Thursday thoughts now, I still make Tick tocks that are. But I don't call it that make a video. I think that's easier to digest for the audience where it's like, I feel like tick tocks always do better when, like, for. This is like, very specific, but I think when people are walking and talking in a tick tock it, I'm more likely to watch it. Like, it's more like, oh, this guy's just getting his thoughts out while he's in the middle of some. While he's in the middle of doing something else. When you, like, sit down and it's like more edited, it's like, well, this guy. It's like the trial this guy tried to make.

[KFC]

And it feels like they're trying to like, sell you. Like you're trying to win me as a customer or something like that. As opposed to like, you're just making content.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Why girls do, like, their makeup and stuff?

[Dave Portnoy]

Exactly. Like, there's no guy equivalent, unfortunately, to like a get ready with me. But if there was, I would do that.

[KFC]

Maybe that's what I'll do with boy gossip. What do we do? That's like makeup?

[Dave Portnoy]

Put a hoodie on?

[Tommy Smokes]

No, but just like.

[KFC]

I mean, like a ritual.

[Jackie]

I do play golf to hang out, to, like, talk. I don't know.

[Tommy Smokes]

Girls do makeup to talk.

[Jackie]

No, I just meant like, trying to find something to do to being able to. Excuse. Gossip with your boys. Is golf kind of for gossiping?

[KFC]

Boys golf?

[Tommy Smokes]

Wait, no, no.

[Jackie]

But like, sorry, I'm just trying to.

[KFC]

Think of like, your makeup is like, you're. You're kind of like not every day, but like, you know, if you're going out or whatever. Yeah. You can do like, what's a daily or a regular ritual. Yeah, it would be like the equivalent of like, as I shaved. I was talking about. But I don't really, you know, I don't think that's it. But like, that would be the idea.

[Dave Portnoy]

Maybe if you're Dante shaving thoughts.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, I just sit there and I very vaguely remember. Not very vaguely, very vividly remember this. Like a girlfriend when I was young and I. I was shaving and I like, she was. She was in the bathroom watching me shave.

[KFC]

What were you shaving?

[Tommy Smokes]

I was just shaving my face.

[KFC]

Okay.

[Tommy Smokes]

But it was. I was shaving. I was shaving my face because she didn't like the stubble on her, but there it is.

[Dave Portnoy]

I knew there was.

[KFC]

There was something about this that was scandalous. You were pausing too much.

[Tommy Smokes]

It was like one of those. I was like, I Don't know if I should explain why I'm shaving my face. It does make the story funnier, but it was a little weird, but whatever. But she was like, now you're doing a bit. I was like, I was like, I was young and I didn't like, you know, it's like my beard was still growing in so, you know, it comes in like so sharp and hard and whatever. So whatever. I was just shaving my face and she was watching me and she was like, this is the hot, so hot scene. So if you become a shave face guy and you're shaving, I think, I think women might like that. I've only had one woman ever watch me shave and she thought it was incredible.

[KFC]

Would you like if a guy was shaving, like, if I was like lathering up and like as I'm talking, just.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, like kind of being like oddly satisfying.

[Dave Portnoy]

I watch a lot of shaving videos on YouTube. Not while other people are talking, but I'll watch like hot shave.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

It is like an. They use like the straight razor and.

[Fights]

It'S like you do like three one minute mans a day.

[KFC]

I know. The problem is I hate shaving. And yeah, I mean, my face would be raw. Or maybe I'll just put on like lotion, shaving cream and just like, you know, use like the back of the razors.

[Fights]

Concerned is like, okay, if you rebrand a boy gossip and it's like four boys and then there's something weird about you, like shaving for the boy.

[KFC]

But maybe I didn't even think of the for the boys tie in. It's like gossip for the boys. Like maybe it all comes full circle. There's something there. I just don't know if it's all the way. But the, the shaving thing or whatever it is. I really do feel like right now a big part of successful content is like a. I mean this has always been the case, but I feel like right now some sort of hook really does go a long way.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Even like Nate with the whiteboard or if you have like a physical prop or some, some way that you convey the, the, the message. Or there's this guy right now. I can't remember his name. I know his first name's John. I remember his at. But he does explaining to. Explaining the Juan Soto contract to my girlfriend in terms that she can relate. You know, she'll be like. So like he's like, like presenting like girl gossip.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

You know, there's this guy and this, this one girl loved him, but he went to the other girl because she has money, whatever, you know. And so he. That's like his hook now. So I think everybody. I'm always, like, wary of that because of the bits thing. Yeah. But when you find one that, that hits where it's like, oh, that's the guy who talks while he shaves. Like, you're getting sponsored by Joel. Everyone's watching it and you know all those things. So it's a fine line between doing a natural, like you said, and having that thing, you know. Lucy is the obvious choice for the true nicotine pouch connoisseur. To my right is the ultimate pouch connoisseur. Right there. Yep. The official nicotine partner, Nicotine pouch partner of barstool sports. The pouches come up to 12 milligrams in strength. They have a unique shape that feels great. So Lucy breakers are also the only pouches that have a hydration capsule where you can bite into it and get that extra rush of that liquid that pops out. So there's the breakers, there's the pouches, and all of them give you the, the, the, the. The feeling and the sensation and the taste that you need to enjoy it. Forget about the gas station pouches. Once you've tried Lucy, you won't want anything else in your pocket. So get Lucy shipped straight to your door. When you visit lucy co/kfc and use promo code KFC to get 20 off your first order. And then if you subscribe, because you know you're going to need regular shipments, so you might as well subscribe and you get an additional 15 off. And shipping's always free, so 20 off when you go to Lucy Co KFC, promo code KFC. And then if you subscribe, get an additional 15 off. Lucy Products are for adults of legal age only for adults of legal age. And every order is age verified. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Fights]

There used to be, like, an apple that will just remind me because you were saying, like, boy gossip versus one minute man. What would work? I don't know what happened to that, but it was brilliant. But it was. You could, like, vote. You could post like, two to four photos of something and then everyone votes. And like, everyone just loves to put their opinion, give their opinion, what you're supposed to wear.

[KFC]

You mean like.

[Fights]

No, it's not even what you're supposed to wear. It's on anything. It's like, do you like. Like dogs or cats more? It's like wishbone. I mean, I think it Might have been Wishbone.

[KFC]

Yeah. We used to do that with women. Remember Smoke Smash? Which one of these girls is hotter? And there like a 90% winner. And I always felt really bad for the other girl.

[Fights]

That's nuts. But, yeah, but like then it was like your for you page was just voting on certain stuff and then you would be able to like do like, do like would you click on this video or this video? More Boy Gossiper. One minute, man. It was a brilliant app. I don't know what happened to it.

[KFC]

Check that out. That's.

[Fights]

Yeah, I don't, I don't know. You guys should do with that information.

[KFC]

You remember those Smoke Smash days? That was crazy.

[Tommy Smokes]

That was. I actually was just talking about this other day. We were talking about just how like it's different in the office now. I forget who was saying. And someone was saying, like when there were younger people before who had to deal with Dave, they at least like could see Dave talk to us.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So they could see how Dave.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

And then have like some kind of gauge. And we just about like interns now and they, they have no idea what Dave is like. No one has any clue. And I was, I was like. Well, the first time I ever interacted with Dave, I had a similar thing. I don't know if it's the first time ever interacting with him, but it was like I was doing Smoke Smash and I.

[KFC]

Which if you don't know, it was like. What was. What was Zuckerberg's one called Something Smash. Right. Face. But no, but I think Smoke Smash was a playoff. I think so. It might have evolved, but it was just like Facebook did it first where you could like vote on people and.

[Tommy Smokes]

No, Zuckerberg did it before.

[KFC]

Before Facebook. Right. Zuckerberg did it first. And then we took all of our local smoke shows, put it into like our tech and it was Smoke Smash and you just voted on which girls hire about.

[Tommy Smokes]

And then. And then my job at the time, because I was an intern, I was living in New York. I was my job at the time, or at least one of the dumb things I did was to put the photos into Smoke Smash.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

As you can imagine, cropping photos threw me for a loop. We also used to have the worst.

[KFC]

Cropping technology in the world.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like. Yeah, yeah. Like the technology, it was like some back end website. I forget what it was, but all.

[KFC]

I want to do is like focus on her face. And we like couldn't do it.

[Tommy Smokes]

And it like, it would just be.

[KFC]

Black and it like blank space or whatever.

[Tommy Smokes]

I couldn't get it. It done. Like, it was. I was really failing at this. And it was my first email ever from Dave. As I was an intern, I wasn't like, an employee. And it was like. It was Barstool. You was getting started. And the email Dave sent was something along the lines of, like, just a.

[KFC]

Subject I was gonna say in the. The whole thing was in the subject berating you.

[Tommy Smokes]

It was like, you're gonna be the first idiot to get fired before he gets a job. Before he ever gets a job or something like that. And all I knew of Dave was. Was the funny guy.

[KFC]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So I was like, oh, he's busting my balls. He's giving me a hard time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Classic Dave.

[Tommy Smokes]

So I had an email replied, ha. Sorry, I'm doing what I can. I think I'll figure it out soon. And I had it typed out, and I was just staring at it, and I was like, I probably shouldn't say.

[KFC]

Instincts, man, Instincts.

[Tommy Smokes]

Good job. Like, I thought he was just the fun guy because I don't know. My toes are curled up.

[KFC]

That's one of those.

[Tommy Smokes]

But no, I didn't send it. That was so.

[Dave Portnoy]

I know. I thought of it.

[KFC]

If you're. If you're an intern in that situation and. Oh, I.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, today, I would not be. No.

[KFC]

The good advice, though, is like, what. What's the upside on sending an email? Like, nothing.

[Tommy Smokes]

Right.

[KFC]

And the downside is, like, what if I've misread this? That's a good, like, you know, story for people to hear, like, to understand how you should proceed. Because he's not going to write back being like, oh, that email where you said, ha is funny, man. But he could write back. I was being serious.

[Dave Portnoy]

Just playing the good work.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Honestly, at the time, I thought that was what it was. I. It was just, you know, my understanding of Barstool as someone who didn't work at Barstool was completely misconstrued.

[KFC]

Well, that's. But that's. I think fans at least thought that initially, too. Like, I think when they found out that we weren't all, like, goofing around together and just, like, sitting around drinking and all that, it was like, no, it's a pretty, like, business first. Yeah. Shop. You know, I don't think people.

[Tommy Smokes]

And your boss does not like talking to you, so keep that in mind, even.

[KFC]

But now I think we're. We're, like, skewed the other direction, you know? Like, I even. I've been talking to Una about the internship and the Job and. And talking to Dave, and I'm like, I don't. I wouldn't, like, say this or that, but maybe they should, because I think we're the broken ones.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe.

[KFC]

Maybe people should just talk to him like a normal person.

[Jackie]

Like a mini mental breakdown. Talking to Jackie and Caroline yesterday, and, like, they both said something that was so interesting. They were like, everyone gets hired at a different barstool. Like, I got hired at this barstool.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I got hired at this bar. So it's like everyone sees barstool how it was when they first got hired. So all the advice I get from people is, like, like, so vastly different.

[KFC]

Because, like, every year could be very antiquated. Could be totally different.

[Tommy Smokes]

Great point.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

I. I've actually, I've heard it said about doctors before that people get nervous when they have a young doctor and. Whereas it should be the complete opposite. Like.

[KFC]

Yeah. Because he's, like, the newest, smartest up on the trends, whatever it is. Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

And bar still the same way. Like, go talk to a young doctor. Don't. I can tell my ideas get fixed is not right.

[KFC]

Yeah, right, right.

[Tommy Smokes]

I said, rub a stick of butter on.

[KFC]

On it. Well, that. Remember when Sydney Wells was like, I'll just FaceTime Dave.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yes.

[KFC]

Yeah, that's like, to be, like, the ultimate story. Like, I'll just. I'll just call Dave on a video. Like, I haven't talked to Dave in five years. Anyway, you. You're. You were. Oh, before we move on from the smoke smash stuff, have you seen the Howard Stern Butterface clip that's been resurfaced?

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh, yes, I actually have. Was that a hot chick?

[KFC]

I know, I know, I know. She was, like, exotic. Like, light hair, dark eyes, hazel eyes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Amaya, a girl from Love Island.

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh, I was gonna say she became Zoe Kravitz. So it had a good, good end of story.

[KFC]

What do you mean? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you meant Zoe D. Chanel. I was like, no, she didn't. But, yeah, like, that girl was, like, an exotic, hot chick, but they just pull that bag off her head. And she clearly, like, had thick enough skin to do to go on the show. But when it started, you could tell she was, like, hurt and upset, and they were just laughing at her. And I was like.

[Tommy Smokes]

And then think about that time, and people are yelling. Like, people were yelling at feminists at that time, being like, it's fine. Yeah. The. Are you whining about the number one.

[KFC]

Source of Entertainment in the world.

[Tommy Smokes]

Everyone's equal. Shut the up. Like, women are getting bags taken off their heads and called disgusting on the biggest show on the world. In the world.

[Dave Portnoy]

Butter face is a great term.

[KFC]

It's the same guy who came up with Picasso painting.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, it's me.

[KFC]

Like, God, it flows. The first time, I don't remember who it was, but the first time I like heard someone be like, but her face. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's one of them.

[Tommy Smokes]

I remember being elementary school, I heard a Cincinnati bangle, which does not make sense to this day. Still pisses me off.

[KFC]

Great helmet. Bad.

[Tommy Smokes]

But no, it's the opposite.

[KFC]

It's cool.

[Tommy Smokes]

Uniform, bad helmet. And I was like, that's not true at all.

[KFC]

Yeah. Wait, I. I've always heard that as like you're. You're also a Cleveland Brown, right? Like you're. Because your helmet's just like playing, I guess.

[Tommy Smokes]

You know, I guess I can see it with a brown Bangles. I was always like. I was like, bangles got cool ass.

[KFC]

Yeah. They have like the tiger stripes, right? Tiger stripes. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost the opposite. It's a pretty girl who has like no ass and no tits or something.

[Fights]

You brought up a great point. That single as a Pringle. Pringles famously come in big pack.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Big things single.

[KFC]

I think that's just cuz once you pop, you can't.

[Tommy Smokes]

Once you pop, you can't stop.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, if I'm going to try to break it down though, I would say Pringles are one of the only chips where you typically eat one by one.

[KFC]

No, no, but it. It is. Yeah. Individually stacked. It's not like there's just a bag.

[Dave Portnoy]

But like pr. Like most chips, you take a handful of chips, eat it. Pringles. You take one Pringle and eat it.

[KFC]

I also just think it rhymes. I actually. With single guys.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I think the rhyming is a big.

[Fights]

Part of it because I feel like the whole, you know, like the. You famously do like two. You do the duck.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Fights]

I don't know if like. Like if I was to think.

[Dave Portnoy]

Once.

[KFC]

It's a conundrum. It's. I'm. I'm confuddled.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think the main thing is it rhymes. But if I'm trying to break it.

[KFC]

Down, that would be maybe individually stacked. Yeah.

[Fights]

I also don't even think that that was really on track with what everyone else.

[KFC]

Just ignore. So you went from like being the smoke smash, failed cropper guy to a. Just a full Blown television star John.

[Tommy Smokes]

Oh my God.

[KFC]

The numbers on episode two are astronomical.

[Tommy Smokes]

Really?

[KFC]

They are so good, bro. Remember when I was telling you last week, 10 click through rate is a big deal. It's 20, you doubled it.

[Tommy Smokes]

Really?

[Dave Portnoy]

What does that mean?

[KFC]

It means like if somebody sees your thumbnail, your link, they are clicking on it. So 20 of people that see streams?

[Dave Portnoy]

Impossible.

[KFC]

Well, no, no, no, no, no. Within like YouTube. Oh, within YouTube.

[Tommy Smokes]

I see.

[KFC]

So. And that's the other good thing.

[Tommy Smokes]

I was thinking that see this is the problem with analytics and like that I was posting Instagram story last night and I was like maybe I shouldn't post this cuz it's going to up the.

[KFC]

If nobody clicks it. No, so, so okay, there's a bunch of things. They're all good by the way. Like when you look at. I'll start with. So the click through rate is like if you're on YouTube suggested video, your homepage, whatever it may be, you see like the mascots thumbnail. Like and by the way, I'm not like a total expert on all this stuff. This is just my understanding of it. So maybe the nerds out there will correct me if I'm wrong. But if you get like 10 like your people are like excited, like this is a hit, like we got an idea on our hands, we gotta like go, you know, 20 is. I don't know, I've seen 20. Like if you get to like 15 people are like like, you know, 10 to 15 is like top performers. Like like 20% click through rate. And then the watch time, this, this episode was a little bit shorter. It was 18 minutes. The watch time was 13 minutes. It's like you're getting like six, like a 66 like 2/3 completion with a 20% click is like bonkers. That's like top 1% performance.

[Dave Portnoy]

See I was doing the opposite where I was like well this view, this video doesn't have as many views as last week, so.

[KFC]

But, but it.

[Tommy Smokes]

No but.

[KFC]

No, no, no. But I bet you it does.

[Tommy Smokes]

I knew that was wrong.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, that was always going be to happen.

[KFC]

No, but I also think that you guys are trending like.

[Fights]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Faster than you were.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, I think we hit like 100k by this time last week.

[Tommy Smokes]

I think so too. Yeah, but, but my, my, what I was gonna say about the whole thing is I, I am more encouraged I guess than ever because like people like it. So like the, well that's the analytics and all that stuff are great, but like people like it and we're about to Go on a six week long press tour which ends at the point where most shows come out. You know what I mean?

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, like, oh, when episode eight comes out and we'll have gone on a six week long press tour for it. When episode eight comes out, that's when people start watching.

[KFC]

Yes.

[Tommy Smokes]

So like I'm, I'm very encouraged by that, that people like what they're seeing and we're gonna have a reason to talk about it for six weeks on tour. And then I think when it all comes out, people will go, hey, this whole show is out. People should go.

[KFC]

That's the, that is the beauty of YouTube to go back to like the streaming stuff. It's like you're really in, you can do this on Netflix and all that too. But you're really like in total control of YouTube when you stumble upon a video and you can just click on it and go right back to episode one.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Because they're just gonna snowball.

[Tommy Smokes]

Right? Right.

[KFC]

You're, you're like 70 of your views are non subscribers. Which means like new audiences watching it. I know, I know. The, and the source of the traffic is like, I think it was 66% YouTube browsing. So like people's algorithms, the for you page, the home page, whatever you want to call it, where you're being fed videos is coming from that. So like only like I think 4.9 was the number which is, that's a good chunk. So we should still do it. But that's Instagram, Twitter, Tick tock, all external.

[Tommy Smokes]

Right.

[KFC]

So 95 of your views are coming from like the YouTube universe mostly. And that is a good thing because then the algorithm. So I think you're going to start to snowball here. If I think if YouTube sees 60 something percent retention, 20 click through rate, 60 already coming from YouTube itself, 70 non subscribers, I think they are gonna blast this out.

[Tommy Smokes]

I, I hope so. And that all sounds good. But the, like, I, I also think like, like we've had that before with sketches and we thought like sketches were doing well and we were like, we're like, oh, the numbers look good, like this is gonna get fed out. And that didn't really happen. Which ultimately is a good thing because I, you know, we grew out of or not grew out of, but we had new avenues we wanted to chase. But like that it's great that all the numbers are good but like I don't want to get too like oh, we only have 50. Like no, like if people like it.

[Dave Portnoy]

So like, yeah, that's what Matters.

[KFC]

You're right. I mean, there definitely was gonna be a drop off from the premieres because is. It's a thing at barstool whether you're watching the show or not. But I almost think it's gonna like all. You know, if the people who watched episode two are like, I gotta go back and watch episode one.

[Tommy Smokes]

Right.

[KFC]

People watch three, you're like, I gotta go one and two. This is so it. It goes.

[Tommy Smokes]

You know, that's the argument for week two weeks. Yeah.

[KFC]

Yes. Right.

[Tommy Smokes]

Because if we drop this all at once, people are.

[KFC]

It'll be over.

[Tommy Smokes]

People are already done talking and all the talk.

[KFC]

Yeah, the talk would be over.

[Tommy Smokes]

And now I think it's more exciting that we can talk about it. And, And, And I don't mean we as in, like, us as promoters. I mean, like, people, fans can talk about it. But Grinnell texted me last night after the episode, and he was like, dude, this show's gonna be enormous, or something like that. And I obviously felt really nice to get that text, but I was also like, I hope you're right. And genuinely, I just hope you're right because I like the show and I think people would enjoy.

[KFC]

You want to just keep doing it.

[Tommy Smokes]

I think people would have a good time if they watch it. So I hope it is enormous or massive or whatever it is he says. And I think the only reason, the only way to do that is to get out there and keep talking.

[KFC]

I don't. I don't. I think a lot of people would say that. That. But I don't think they mean it. You know what I mean? Like, people want it to be a success, to get famous and get money. You know what I mean?

[Tommy Smokes]

I don't want to be.

[KFC]

And I'm sure there are people out there who would say, we don't care about the ratings, we just want people to like it, but they care about the ratings. You know, I. I get the sense from you guys that there is a genuine, like, we just want to keep making a show that we like. And, and the way that we do that is by it being a success and potentially making money and all those things. So let's do that so we can keep going. But the actual motivation is not really those numbers.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

From my point. I mean, I. I don't even want to watch the show. I just want to look at the analytics.

[Tommy Smokes]

They're like, obviously they're humongously important. I just don't. I want to make sure, like, we don't get too into them.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

You know what I mean?

[KFC]

It's not for you guys. It's for, like, I legitimately, I. I don't know how these things work with other companies, but, like, if I'm sure the Netflixes, the streamers, the Primes, the Hulu's, all those have like a acquisition group or something. I would imagine they would look at, like, YouTube. That is smashing YouTube numbers.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I also, like, Like, I think that. And I mean, so we're now at the point, like, me and fights everybody, like, oh, you know, two's great, One's great. We now haven't seen three.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

I'm sure it's good too. I don't know how the rest goes. I'm sure it's good.

[Tommy Smokes]

I hope it's good.

[KFC]

That's like the sort of. That you should say. And, like, that's promo for, like, we don't even know.

[Tommy Smokes]

Today, right? Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think in any TV show ever, whether it's a sitcom, like a sival Friends, or break it back, like, not that we're any other shows, but what I'm saying, in general tv, no TV show's best episode is ever its first episode or second episode.

[KFC]

Sure.

[Dave Portnoy]

So I hope we just kind of follow in that line where it's like, it's gonna get better. People are gonna get more used to the characters. You get more invested into the storyline. Like, that is what sort of sucks about, like, and that's always how YouTube goes. That's all content goes where episode one will get way more views. In episode two, it's like, I really want you guys to see all of that because it is different than like a. A video series where it's like, you know, I don't know, whatever. What Is a Barstool YouTube series?

[Tommy Smokes]

What is your favorite episode?

[Dave Portnoy]

I like two. More than one of the ones I've seen.

[Tommy Smokes]

No, no, I mean. I mean of. Of the seven, what is your favorite episode?

[Dave Portnoy]

Just from, like, shooting and how I think it'll come out. I think Lake Placid's good.

[KFC]

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[Tommy Smokes]

I was asking you because they, they. I did Chickals the other day and they asked what the favorite episode to shoot was was or what the best episode was. And they said, we heard it six. And I was like, six is Lake Placid. That was unbelievable. And that was so much fun to shoot. And that's what I've been saying. I think it's what Sass has been saying. But I've been saying that since we shot it and I think I'm just saying out of habit now because I think seven is going to be awesome finale. I think the. Which I maybe part of that reason is because like I was uncertain going into it and then once we started shooting it, I was like, oh, this is awesome.

[Dave Portnoy]

I also think from like a. Just a storyline perspective, I feel like episode five has the best. Like there's truly two dueling stories.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yes.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know what I mean? So, like, I think that's. I don't know. I hope they're all good.

[KFC]

You know what I want you guys to do at some point? You know, when a show does like a, sometimes a full episode or maybe just like a cold open or something with like entirely different actors. And it's like a flashback or a prequel or something like that. And you learn like, oh, that's actually the main character's mom and dad. And you realize why he's like, up or something like that. That you guys. There should be an episode where it's like, I don't even know who's the actors, but it's just like how you guys came to be or whatever, where it's a total departure from the usual cast.

[Tommy Smokes]

Well, cuz to me that. That makes me.

[KFC]

I always feel like I'm watching like, oh, they're like investing in the story and other actors and shooting it in a way that's like, to really build the universe even if you're not seeing your favorite stars.

[Tommy Smokes]

We have absolutely had flashback talks.

[KFC]

Okay. That would be sick. I would like that.

[Fights]

Like, for season two, have you guys talked about, like, is there anything that you want to do differently in terms of like, shooting film?

[KFC]

Wait, is there a season two?

[Fights]

Well, I'm assuming no.

[KFC]

Like, like, like Owen, does he have a season two in mind?

[Dave Portnoy]

We set it up where there could be.

[Tommy Smokes]

There's certainly.

[KFC]

Okay.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, I. Fights brought up the great point where like, this was like months ago. It's like, man, I hope we can like, hope it does well. We can make like season two or whatever and fights goes. We can do anything we want.

[Tommy Smokes]

12 seasons.

[Dave Portnoy]

People might stop watching and hate it, but we can just make them.

[KFC]

That's really like the, the beauty of it, you know, it's.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's really like. I mean, we. We spent money, obviously, but like, as far as barstool sports is concerned, we didn't spend any money.

[KFC]

Yeah, right, right. And. And you know what? Like, let's say you go where to get picked up by Netflix or something like that. They do a season or two and then, I don't know, it doesn't make sense for them, money wise. And they stopped. And you guys could just go back to YouTube. Yeah. Like most, most people would be like, oh, our show's been canceled old. But how many fans are always like, I just saw Netflix canceled that show the Waterfront, that one that I liked about drug running. It was like, it was like in the top five for like weeks. And they cut it. And I was like, if they were to just be like, all right, we're gonna do it on YouTube, I would watch the out of it there. So no one does that because they could probably consider it a failure or they need to get a show that. Another show that's gonna be on Netflix or whatever it is. You guys could just be like, I don't know, we're gonna put this on Twitter.

[Tommy Smokes]

We're gonna do whatever the we want. I genuinely don't understand understand obviously it's salaries is what a large portion of the budget is. But like the rest of it, I'm like, I don't know, like we're renting gigsters and, and for like regular.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like I don't know where they get these exorbitant budgets from.

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean they also have way more than like three or four camera people.

[KFC]

Yeah, but.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, but.

[KFC]

But I don't think you need it is what we're like. I think there's probably a level above you guys where it's like, okay, we have multi cams, we have better lighting. Whatever it may be.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's, it's.

[KFC]

But you don't like beyond that. I think sometimes it's people trying to make a huge budget to turn it into like a billion dollar industry. You know what I mean? But if you went on location, there's things where you can spend more money and enhance the quality.

[Tommy Smokes]

But we've also been incredibly lucky. I guess this is like because of the comedy world and stuff like that. Like we've gotten a lot really good people playing extras.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Cost a lot of. You know what I mean? They're just doing it because they're friends or because they're nice or. I honestly, I don't know why people are doing it. I. I think it's because I think people just like doing it.

[KFC]

Like why people are doing your cameos.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, I think people just like.

[KFC]

I think, I think there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of reasons. But I, I do absolutely think that you've built up a lot of goodwill with those people.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, but, but like with. Of course, like a lot of them are friends. But there's also just a lot of people who are like, like yeah, reverse it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like if somebody came to you and with like worked at a big comp or whatever's like hey, do you want to be in my fan be like absolutely, absolutely.

[Tommy Smokes]

Of course.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I think I would maybe pay to be in it too.

[Tommy Smokes]

Understanding of that beforehand. Cuz like we try and you know, we try and like Venmo people a couple hundred bucks for their time and stuff like that. But the like very largely no one even asks for money. Yeah.

[Jackie]

With you guys is like really fun.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like it's so after I walked out, like, just seeing you guys guys filmed, I think, I think it was the finale. I was like, if all the episodes were this fun for them to film, it's gonna be sick.

[KFC]

And they were giddy walking out.

[Jackie]

Like, that was awesome.

[KFC]

I, I think though that, like, there's, there's an element probably of like what Tommy said, like, yeah, I'll go do something for a Barstool sports production. But I also think a lot of those people have been around Barstool come and done, done the show, sat with you before and are like, this will be cool. Yeah, Like I, I, I, I, I likable guys guy. I think there, I'm not referring to me.

[Tommy Smokes]

There are a lot of people in the show who aren't my friends.

[Dave Portnoy]

True.

[Tommy Smokes]

I, all of us.

[KFC]

But I could see, like, if Ari, Ari probably likes to do it, but if, like a crew of people that he doesn't really get along with ask him to do it, I could see him not doing it, you know?

[Tommy Smokes]

But I, I think what I, I'm saying is, like, I think people just like, helping, like, like they're like, oh, you're doing something. I'll help you out.

[KFC]

Like, especially where your guys are at. I feel like if you were a Netflix production, people would be like, where's my check?

[Tommy Smokes]

For sure.

[KFC]

Because it's like, that's what happens. We, you get money for this. This when it's like, we're just making cool.

[Dave Portnoy]

You know why?

[KFC]

Because turning that down is like an indictment of you. You know what I mean?

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

It's like if, if I say, where's my money? Or like, oh, you have to talk to my agent or whatever, it's like, yeah, you suck, dude. Like, if someone says, hey, we're just doing this awesome thing for the love of the game, do you want to be involved? And you say no, then you're just admitting you're not doing it for the love of the game. That's, that's a tough thing to do, you know, to admit to that is.

[Tommy Smokes]

That is true.

[Fights]

You guys also don't realize, like, the credibility that you've built up. Like, yeah, every time somebody's like, oh, my God, they asked me to be in an out of order sketch, like.

[KFC]

Yeah, people like, they do like that.

[Tommy Smokes]

See, I'm never gonna, like, I always just feel like I'm putting someone out. I'm never.

[Dave Portnoy]

It always feels like you're wasting something.

[Tommy Smokes]

I, I really, really don't. Like, we put up sign up sheets or something. Oh, I think Because I don't like.

[Fights]

Whenever you guys ask me like, I.

[KFC]

Know I was gonna say I. I can't think of, you know, anybody here minus like Dave who wouldn't be like.

[Tommy Smokes]

We should definitely do sign up sheets, cuz that avoids the awkward thing.

[KFC]

I hate asking. But then you get a bunch of sign ups. We're gonna cut that page in half and drop.

[Fights]

I think that the credibility that you guys have built up is almost like the exclusivity of like, who are you gonna ask?

[Tommy Smokes]

But I don't want to feel like that at all.

[Jackie]

You should keep feeling like, yeah, yes you do. Because it's so. It's so much more exciting.

[Tommy Smokes]

But then it feels like we're the gatekeepers of it. I don't want to be the.

[KFC]

You don't have to be. But like there, there should be an air of like any jamote gets on.

[Tommy Smokes]

Really. Any jamote does. Like again like chickless. They were talking about that where they're like, oh, you guys are good actors and all that. And I was like, who's been bad? We've been doing this for three years. Like no one's ever been bad.

[KFC]

I keep saying I could go back to like when people do kind of new age content that exposes other like lazy people or whatever. Like sometimes I'm like, I don't know. All these guys are good actors. Like, maybe I should stop giving so much credit to like the DiCaprio of the world. Like Jackie can do this pretend for a second.

[Fights]

No, I mean, I think it goes straight, right.

[Tommy Smokes]

I feel like a constraint. No, Jackie. Jackie's one of the best actors.

[KFC]

Like when I. When I saw your. I think the first one I saw.

[Dave Portnoy]

You was, I said, Jackie's like very natural.

[Tommy Smokes]

Incredibly natural.

[KFC]

Yeah, there's such a. The fine line is like, you can't be 100% natural because I don't think that plays on camera.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Cuz if you were to like really just see a conversation between me and John, it's probably pretty boring, you know, but if you overact, then it's overacting. So it's that fine line of like this plays theatrically but looks natural. Is this like the sweet spot that you got to get to? Obviously. And everybody seems to be able to like do it pretty, pretty quickly.

[Tommy Smokes]

I. I think it's just. I think you just pretend like I was again talking about that. Whereas like I've been. Once we started filming, I was like, well, I gotta learn how to act. And so I was like watching master classes and stuff. Like that. And Samuel L. Jackson has one that's awesome. And he's so cool, and it's very, very cool to watch. And I'm sure I picked up a little thing here and there, but, like, it's just a cool guy going, I don't know, man. Pretend.

[KFC]

Just do it. Yeah, I. I get you. But also the mere fact that you all have watched. Watched those videos, read those books, like that matters. It might not. You might not realize you're getting Miyagi.

[Tommy Smokes]

You know what I mean?

[KFC]

You're not like, oh, remember what Samuel L. Jackson said? Action. But it's in there somewhere.

[Tommy Smokes]

But that's what I think. I. I completely agree. I think we got Miyagi. I think everyone's been Miyagi.

[KFC]

Yeah. I think you've been watching, you've been performing.

[Tommy Smokes]

People rush up to you going, action, Go. And you're, like, trying to make it look natural. Like, I think. I think I would venture to guess everyone at Barcelona Sports is a good actor. Between, like, ad reads, podcasting, tick tock.

[KFC]

Social people just being comfortable with a camera and lights and people around you and all that. Yeah.

[Fights]

It also is a company of talented people.

[KFC]

Yeah. You're here.

[Tommy Smokes]

I mean, kb. KB went bananas. KB went.

[Fights]

Was the Caroline Blue Carolina Blues. Like, were people commenting about that?

[Dave Portnoy]

I mean, like, it was unslimy.

[Tommy Smokes]

Was the big one slimy? It's like when they found out DeGeneres was lesbian.

[KFC]

It is funny to watch what people pick up on as the thing. Thing. You know what I mean?

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Like, the moth was episode one. I saw a lot of. On slime for episode two. People really do gravitate towards their.

[Tommy Smokes]

And it always. Not always. Like, we. Obviously, we. We knew. KB went. I. I was watching it last night like I was watching a Steph Curry game. I was like, he can't miss right now. It was like I. I was laughing harder than I laughed at the premiere. Laugh. Laughing harder than I watched any of the edits. Like, he was insane last there when we shot that. No, no, I was there in Chicago. No, no, that was in New York.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I was like, like watching it live. You knew, like, yeah, I'm watching something special, right? Yeah, Nick was great, too.

[KFC]

Yeah. Nick actually, I think is the most natural when he.

[Tommy Smokes]

When he.

[KFC]

Like, I'm like, that thing I do. Yeah. He seems like he's that guy. Like, that agent guy is like, him.

[Fights]

Who's the dad of the kids?

[Dave Portnoy]

Derek Drescher.

[Tommy Smokes]

Derek Dresser.

[Fights]

He's really good.

[Tommy Smokes]

He's so.

[Dave Portnoy]

He was great.

[KFC]

Dude, people love the montage, too. That was a. Yeah, it was a big thing.

[Tommy Smokes]

He was good montages.

[Dave Portnoy]

Beat it up.

[Tommy Smokes]

The dude dresser was unbelievable when he. That felt very Frank Reynolds. When Pabs cuts to him as I'm. And he's kind of just staring through his glasses, I was like, they do Frank cuts like this all the time. Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And it is cool. Like we said, like, people help out. It's cool. When we're done with a shoot with, like, a non bar person, they're like, oh, I had a really fun time.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

That I've always said when we wrap up an interview, people will say to me, like. Like, oh, that one was an easy one. Or, like, that was so much better than Good Morning America or whatever. That, to me, that's like the highest praise I can get is. Did you enjoy making it?

[Tommy Smokes]

You know, that was. That was. That was one of the first times.

[Dave Portnoy]

Drop the staple down my pants.

[Tommy Smokes]

You actually got.

[Dave Portnoy]

I broke it in half.

[Tommy Smokes]

You honestly got it out.

[Fights]

No, there's more.

[KFC]

Wait, let's just stop.

[Jackie]

Why are you holding staples?

[KFC]

Why? Putting staples in your pants, bro.

[Dave Portnoy]

Staple on the ground, and I broke. You're talking about both of them. This is half of it.

[KFC]

And then. And then. Why'd you put it on your nuts?

[Dave Portnoy]

No, I wasn't. I had it right here and it felt.

[KFC]

Oh, just bad luck. It just fell right down your.

[Dave Portnoy]

Whatever.

[KFC]

Not.

[Dave Portnoy]

Not a big deal.

[KFC]

Now those. Now those staples have, like, been kind of underneath your ball sack.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, they might be right there right now, but whatever.

[Tommy Smokes]

That might be, like, the first time.

[KFC]

That might be, like, the first time in, like, human history that someone got staples stuck under their balls.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like, how does that even happen?

[KFC]

How does that happen?

[Tommy Smokes]

Someone wasn't in my apartment.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, even with. When I get a straw wrapper at a restaurant, I always.

[KFC]

You're a fidget guy. We. I got. We got plenty of fidget stuff. Oh, right.

[Fights]

We actually kind of ran out of our fidget stuff.

[KFC]

I got these magnets at home. I gotta bring the magnets in. You'll get the magnets. Magnets are great. Great. We're big fidgeters over here.

[Dave Portnoy]

Sorry to interrupt.

[KFC]

Anyway, yeah, I think the. I think the YouTube stuff is very promising to the point that, like. And I. I. So I. I put up a video explaining a lot of the stats, and people were like, oh, 200, 000 views is like smashing YouTube. It's like, it's. It. The algorithm will make that a bigger pool. Like, it's being. It's reaching A certain amount of people on YouTube right now. And when. When YouTube sees that 20 of people are clicking on it and then staying for 13 minutes. YouTube wants more people to watch more things longer. So you stay on their website. So right now it. It blasts out to 50,000 people. And if they see that 20. 20% of them click and then stay for 13 minutes, they're going to blast it out to 100,000 and then a million. And then so like I. The views are whatever views. Likes. Comments are kind of the vanity metrics, which, by the way, those are all good. It's like 98 to 2% like to dislike ratio. Know the comments whether they're good or bad. There's enough of them that I think you're showing that it's kind of like a cultural moment every time it drops that people are into it. But it's like you go deeper and comments bad. No, I'm just saying. To me, to me, I don't. Whether they're good or bad. The fact that there's like, the fact that there was like a thousand comments the first night it came out was just like, it's people. People have to talk about it. Yeah. But when like YouTube starts to, you know, 650 million people a day on YouTube, like, if they decide to show it to. To 650 million people and it got 20. You know what I mean? That's how it goes. So I can see that, you know, there are people who like, if it didn't do 100 million views, it's not a big deal. But it's.

[Tommy Smokes]

No, that's. That's my thing where, like, it, like, obviously numbers matter. That's a huge, humongously important thing. But, like, people seem to like it.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

So let's just keep telling them to watch it and not get too caught up. Right.

[KFC]

That's more for.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's one. It's like anything with, like, when we're talking about sports, like analytics matter there.

[KFC]

But also you guys pass the eye test.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah, yeah.

[KFC]

But in terms of if. If a streamer did want to look at it, or if there's clients who want sales or whatever, because as much as those things aren't the reason you're doing it, when those things fall into place, you get season two, season three, you get a budget, you get stars, you get.

[Tommy Smokes]

Right.

[KFC]

All of that helps it grow to be what you really want it to be in the final product. You know, Although it seems like you're kind of already doing. I mean, like, if you could change something about it, what would it be? Is there something that a budget could fix or change? Is there something that probably wouldn't shoot.

[Tommy Smokes]

In my apartment so often?

[Dave Portnoy]

Taking a month or two, however long we're thinking that's the only.

[Tommy Smokes]

We're just shooting.

[KFC]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Running around trying to juggle like five things.

[Dave Portnoy]

2:00Pm after this podcast or whatever. I think just being like. Because then it's also easier to like just constantly stay in character and like be all right. This is my life for this, the.

[KFC]

Next six weeks, continuity, all those things you guys worry about. But I'm sure there's a world where like you know, if you were, let's say you weren't at barstool, you guys were just trying to make a TV show, whatever. You had some agent, he'd be like, the show's a hit, we got interest. The first thing we're going to do, you don't have to live inside your studio anymore. Like that would be a big deal if you, you know, we're going to like rent or build a sound stage that is your guys apartment now so it's not yours. Like you probably view that as an inconvenience but other people would be like, like this is a non starter. You can't, we can't make this in my home.

[Tommy Smokes]

And also I want like if I could go back and do it any different way, I would not do it a different way at all. I think that helped all of us create it all.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like that felt great.

[KFC]

Would it be nice?

[Tommy Smokes]

Six months?

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

All right, let's wrap this up. But like it like genuinely like I, I, I, I. And also I'm really kidding. I, I don't care at all that we're shooting in my apartment. It is a bit of a pain in the ass to move all the time. Yeah, like it's not the end of the world but yeah, budget that would be. I think the first thing we do is build the set.

[Fights]

I always think about like one time, I remember Nick saying that him and KB just wanted to see if they could like somehow get Clemmer, send him to Canada for no reason. So they call and like had him like dress up as a hockey puck or something. So they go, hey Clemmer, like we, we're gonna have you like fly out to Canada for like the hockey puck thing. We're just gonna have you dress up as a hockey puck and like whatever. And he was like, okay, sounds good. Like is this run by everybody? And they're like, yeah, yeah, don't worry like you're gonna go these days. And then they call, they call like I think it was like roan. And they're like hey, by the way we're gonna have plumber. Like or they called somebody Hank or whatever. And they were like you were gonna have CL do this? And Hank was like all right. Did you run it by like, like Big Cat or something? They were like yeah, yeah. Big cat said it was okay. And then they called the like bunch of people they called Chris and they're like hey, like by the way, Clemmer's.

[KFC]

Going to do the hockey puck thing.

[Fights]

All this. And then they had like full budget. So I feel like if you were just like hey, by the way, like it got approved that we have like 300.

[KFC]

You keep pushing.

[Jackie]

Said Dave said I got a job.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's good.

[KFC]

Just start sending the checks to this address, please.

[Tommy Smokes]

But there's a. Pam Beasley becomes office manager. It's a great, it's a great episode.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah stands it.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

Yeah. I, I, I, I can see that.

[Tommy Smokes]

I can see that, man.

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[Tommy Smokes]

I, I, I got a quick thing.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

It's obviously candy related. I, I've realized I can now I'm such a candy expert. I know I like my chocolate like two day dry aged like I'll open.

[KFC]

It open and leave gets like crumbly.

[Tommy Smokes]

And two a two day dry age three musketeer.

[KFC]

Who says dry age?

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm, I don't know if I disagree with you. It's a ridiculous thing to say no.

[KFC]

To me like chocolate bars crumble apart. You guys are nuts with the three musketeers.

[Tommy Smokes]

That was three musketeers is one I like air.

[KFC]

Three musketeers stinks dude.

[Tommy Smokes]

Huh?

[KFC]

Three Musketeers stinks.

[Tommy Smokes]

Try dude.

[KFC]

I absolutely will try this because it's like trusting. It's like watching Picasso.

[Tommy Smokes]

I'm really like just something I like. But if you try it I will for sure give it a whirl out.

[Dave Portnoy]

Of the wrapper for two days.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I think there's something satisfying about that because you it's like when you that usually happens when you're finding chocolate you didn't know you had. So you find you're like yeah, chocolate.

[Tommy Smokes]

That's what it was. I found it.

[KFC]

I know this. Found it under his couch. It was like, must be so good.

[Tommy Smokes]

Tastes about three days old. I was like, this is unbelievable. And then one more quick thing. I recently started brushing my beard in the mornings.

[KFC]

All sorts of shit in there.

[Tommy Smokes]

No, it just like, I think it looks better. And I was like, oh yeah. I probably should have brushed the hair on my face this whole time. Like every morning I put, I run a comb through my hair, but not never had thought about my face. And I've done it for like four days now. I was like, oh, dude, that looks way better.

[KFC]

I'm at a real crossroads with my, my, my facial hair. Like I used to keep it longer to hide it like a double chin, but now it's getting gray enough that when it grows out I look old.

[Tommy Smokes]

I think that's awesome.

[KFC]

No, it's like I get these swirly patches, right? If it was like a kind of a salt and pepper thing, but it's like, boom. Patch of gray. Spot of gray.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[KFC]

I need the whole thing to be. Because that, I mean, I wish, but I can't, I can't make this up. I.

[Tommy Smokes]

Possibly add more stress.

[KFC]

The fact that I haven't lost my hair or hasn't turned gray yet. I'm like these people who are like, oh, I lost my hair because I was stressed. I was like, what's going on in your life?

[Tommy Smokes]

You're the biggest in the world or.

[KFC]

You got more stress than anybody in the life. One more thing before Tommy pees his pants. Do you think Ben Shapiro can bench £200? Ben Shapiro is. He's five, five pint sized, right? Yeah. If I had to guess, I would say he is like five, five, a hundred and forty or fifty pounds. So we're talking like yes, over his own body weight, which is pretty, you know, like that's no matter what. Relatively speaking. I think if you're benching 30, 40, 50 over your, your own weight, that's pretty, pretty high, I would guess.

[Dave Portnoy]

No, but if he did, I wouldn't be like, oh my.

[KFC]

Well, the reason I think he can. He did a video on Mandami was man, I always say, how is it was it. I say he, he was benching. And I think it was one. I think it was 135. Right. That's the standard with 45 on each side. He. And he couldn't do it. And Shapiro did this video being like the average man can bench his own weight and if you can't do that, like that's not a lot of weight at all. And like for reference I can do £200. I could probably do £135 15 times. Times. And I was like, you better be able to. Yeah, nailed it. Right?

[Tommy Smokes]

That was a great impression.

[KFC]

Like, that almost feels like if you're gonna go on camera and say that, either A, you absolutely know you can do it, or B, you're setting it up for people to be like, no, you can't, and then you're gonna bang it out.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would hope he did it before he recorded.

[KFC]

That's what he's got to be, too. Like, he's gotta be. But then I'm also like, if he can, he should do it right now because it would be pretty impressive.

[Tommy Smokes]

He. I don't know much about him, but, like, I've seen him. He. He looks like he's got a normal face, so I'm sure he's in.

[KFC]

Yeah, he's small, but he looks like he's probably in shape.

[Tommy Smokes]

And if you're in small and everything's a lot easier. So if he's very short, which he is, it's a lot easier to do.

[KFC]

To bench.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yes.

[KFC]

Really?

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. Benching. Like, if you watch kd, like, KD at the. Because his arms are so long. So long.

[KFC]

You have to do so much more.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I'm too lanky.

[Tommy Smokes]

Like. Like, I remember when I was at fsu, I went to, like, the bench press competition at the gym, and like, everyone who won was, like, five, six. In arms.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

And then if you have long arms, you have to move the weight very far, so.

[KFC]

Interesting.

[Tommy Smokes]

I. I would guess he can. If he said it. And he's short and he looks like a right. Pretty regular guy. I would guess he can, but he's.

[KFC]

Pretty tiny, like, for. I think that. I think you should do that. And people would be like, wow.

[Tommy Smokes]

Yeah. I'm guessing because that would be the.

[KFC]

Setting of what you benching. Let's say like, like 275 or something like upwards of 300. Right. Like. Like, if. I'm just trying to think of if he weighs like 130 pounds and he's talking about 200. Like, I'm like, you know, your weights. How much more over your weight could you lift? And it would be like, that'd be a sizable amount.

[Tommy Smokes]

I could probably lift like 300 and I weigh like 200.

[KFC]

Right. So it's, you know, maybe not quite that, but enough that it would be like, that's a lot for a guy your size. Yeah, but he was going in on it.

[Fights]

Bench press or like.

[KFC]

Yeah, the bench he, he was, you know, of course, people just clowning him for not being able to lift it. It's like, you better be able to do it.

[Tommy Smokes]

But like, that's the thing. As Tommy said, like Ben Shapiro, it's not his first time on the Internet. He knows what you're gonna say.

[KFC]

That's why.

[Tommy Smokes]

So he's setting it up so he can do it.

[KFC]

It's almost more like I am assuming he absolutely can. And I'm just surprised by that because he is a small guy. But. And I, I say all this with like, I am never gonna make fun of anybody's bench. I'm not the guy lift. Don't challenge me. I will say no because I can't do it.

[Tommy Smokes]

But.

[KFC]

But yeah, I. I think he's got to do it now. So. Ben, go do it. This is your challenge. Go. Go prove us. All right, Tommy, go pee. See everybody watch the beach house this weekend. Any. Any expectations? Any predictions? Yeah, sorry.

[Tommy Smokes]

Man's been doing Kegels.

[KFC]

It's the finale final weekend. Anything planned or is it. Are we just winging it again? Like another round of what we've been seeing?

[Dave Portnoy]

We got the schedule. Like, I think we had a. Both day. Some bars.

[KFC]

Okay.

[Dave Portnoy]

Maybe a trivia night or something.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Price is wrong and then I don't.

[KFC]

Know what that means.

[Dave Portnoy]

Should be fun 4. It's going to be a. Got to reach back everything we got.

[KFC]

Yeah. I mean, part of me thinking about like the cast is like the Jackie Danny wedding happened. Anaka and Nikki already hooked up. I feel like that could have been like a finale that already happened. I mean, I guess Tommy could like another blonde girl. Like, is there anything that is. Is open ended that we need to like.

[Fights]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

I do too. For some reason I feel like there's gonna be like a blowout.

[Fights]

Yeah.

[Tommy Smokes]

Really?

[Jackie]

Some people like, because everyone knows it's the last weekend, maybe subconsciously people will start like getting out.

[KFC]

I don't know what.

[Jackie]

I don't know who, but I. I have the same gut feeling as Jack.

[KFC]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't. I don't know. I hope.

[KFC]

I think I could see that or I could see you guys being like, like not limp into the finish line, but like we all know each other. I know who I either have beef with or didn't have or we made up and we don't have beef anymore. And we're back at the osprey for the 50th time and like, let's just get to the end and call it a day.

[Dave Portnoy]

See what happens. Only one way to find out.

[KFC]

Don't live it to 50, 000 clips on the barstool. Beach house socials. Mascots will be out next week and we'll be back on Tuesday.