Trevor Wallace Reacts to Rob Kardashian's Sent Home From Kim's Wedding Rumors - Full Episode + Interview

Summary

KFC Radio – Trevor Wallace Reacts to Rob Kardashian's Sent Home From Kim's Wedding Rumors

Podcast: KFC Radio (Barstool Sports)
Hosts: John Feitelberg (Feits) & Kevin "KFC" Clancy
Guest: Trevor Wallace
Date: November 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode blends the show’s signature blend of loose, barroom-style banter with heavier pop culture and personal musings. John Feitelberg, joined by KFC, Jackie, and guest Trevor Wallace, touch everything from stand-up gig nerves and navigating massive crowds, to the Sydney Sweeney controversy, the evolving entertainment industry, gendered emotional styles, and the explosive popularity of current TV series. The latter part of the episode features a fun, fanboyish deep-dive with Trevor Wallace on the wild Murdoch family TV series, the power of nostalgia, breakout pod and YouTube strategy, and a little cameo/celebrity banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Stand-Up Comedy Nerves & Big-Gig Mindset

[01:05–11:45]

• The hosts banter about Feits prepping for his first arena stand-up gig on Bert Kreischer's "Permission to Party" tour, discussing the nerves and perspective shifts that come with bigger crowds.

• Bert, acting as a guest host, shares insight on his own journey from small clubs to large venues and the transition from seeing sold-out seats as a mark of success to accepting the inevitability of both highs and lows.

  "At this point, it's not like a couple shows are impressive. You're either good or you're bad at this." – Bert Kreischer [01:37]

• Discussion of "bombing" on stage: both Feits and Bert see the comedic value and content potential in a bad show.

  “If I bomb, it’ll be funny as shit – I’ll just make content outta that.” – Feitelberg [03:21]

• The importance of becoming “unflappable” with experience.

  "You're a very unflappable person now. I can't imagine any scenario that would really get through to you." – KFC [06:37]

2. Handling Failure, Audience Dynamics & Comedy Philosophy

[09:00–13:05]

• The group unpacks the skill of reading a room, the difference between controlling 100 people versus 15,000, and how even comedy pros like Sam Morrill deal with bombing (sometimes in front of idols like Don Mattingly).
• Discussion around when to “break the fourth wall” if a set is bombing.

  "My personality is more, if I'm bombing, just call it. Let's all feel this together.” – Feitelberg [11:12] "Conan O'Brien said: you should assume all audiences think the show is going flawlessly." – Bert Kreischer [11:23]

3. Personal Anecdotes & Barstool Camaraderie

[15:00–21:20]

• Funny riffing on hungover text deletions, public bathroom awkwardness, and their friend-group dynamics.

• Playful banter about male anatomy ("division sign" analogy).

  “My dick’s basically a division sign when I’m sitting. You got a ball above, a ball below, dick in the middle.” – Feitelberg [19:12]

• A story about the infamous "can I use your bathroom to wipe my ass?" incident.

4. TV & Movie Reviews: “The Long Walk,” “Running Man,” Sydney Sweeney Biopic

[22:14–41:51]

• The hosts debate dystopian fiction—what they like/don’t like about Stephen King adaptations, “Running Man”, and newly released “The Long Walk.”
• Extended discussion on the Sydney Sweeney “Christy Martin” biopic, and the general trend of box office discourse as a metric of film success.

  “We have to stop judging movies strictly by box office numbers. The world’s changed.” – KFC [30:05] “I feel like judging things by box office is like judging a sports team by ticket sales." – Bert Kreischer [32:13]

• The hosts question whether box office is still meaningful amid streaming’s dominance and point out how “haters” often weaponize flop-discourse for agenda-driven purposes.

5. The Sydney Sweeney Public Controversy

[41:52–47:58]

• Thoughtful debate: does Sweeney "owe" the public a direct response to the alleged eugenics/white supremacy accusations, and what’s the best way to handle a hostile, viral scandal?

  “What would you say if someone put you on the spot about racism?” – KFC [38:53] “If people are genuinely concerned that I’m a white supremacist, I’d like to nip that in the bud.” – Bert Kreischer [42:59] “If there’s something I need to speak on, you’ll hear from me.” – Sydney Sweeney (quoted by KFC) [40:17]

• Jackie brings the lens of how media expectations shift with fame, and how big money means figuring out how to communicate to “the masses.” [44:46]

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6. Gendered Emotional Expression, Relationships, & Communication

[63:05–78:33]

• Feits describes a recent fall down the stairs that triggered intense emotional and physical shock, using it as a segue into gender differences in processing stress and emotional cycles.

  “I get insanely cold, then start laughing and crying uncontrollably … like my body was in shock.” – Feits [64:55]

• The hosts riff on how men and women experience emotions differently; Jackie relates to crying regularly as healthy, while Feits waits for the “six-month meltdown.”

  “If I don’t get a cry in once a week, I know something bad is coming.” – Jackie [72:13]

• The concept of "every accusation is an admission" in relationships.

  “Why are you accusing me of that? The only reason it’s on your brain is because you do it.” – Bert Kreischer [77:10]

• Emphasis on honest communication as the episode’s theme.

  “From interviews to relationships, you gotta communicate, otherwise people will just assume.” – John Feitelberg [77:43]

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7. Media/Streaming Talk: Pluribus, Murdoch Murders, Algorithm Anxiety

[85:34–105:29]

• Glowing review for “Pluribus” (Apple TV), Vince Gilligan’s new series—praised for its original concept, writing, acting (Rhea Seehorn), and the philosophical debate around collective consciousness, AI, and happiness.

  “If you haven’t watched Pluribus on Apple TV, drop everything and go watch it.” – KFC [85:26]

• Both hosts relate its themes to AI, technology ethics, and the idea that “every character should always be right” in drama (a David Fincher screenwriting tip).
• Brief “Murdoch Murders” true crime obsession (“the craziest real story, crazier than monsters or aliens”), with the hosts agreeing the TV show format is often more compelling than documentaries.
• Riffs on streaming app interface design, search frustration, and how remote control “hot buttons” are likely paid product placements.

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8. BRANDING, NOSTALGIA, & THE NATURE OF FAME (Trevor Wallace Interview)

[117:28–End]

Murdoch Family TV Obsession

[117:35–126:25]

• Trevor, Bert, and Feits geek out about the Murdoch show’s insane real-life plot, “Yellowstone”-style spin-offs, and dark Southern gothic energy.
• The group discusses how a single “bad night” can unravel an entire life, relating personal mistakes to the Murdoch kids’ tragedies.

True Crime, Documentary Trends, and the News Cycle

[126:25–128:58]

• Reflection on Netflix and Hulu’s now-instant turnaround true crime docs, exploiting tragedy with near-immediate productions.

  “America’s almost desensitized to it because they’re like, ‘Yeah, it’s awful… So how many episodes we thinking?’” – Trevor Wallace [126:52]

• The “girls who love true crime” trope, and the blurred lines between notoriety, victimhood, and celebrity in modern society.

Cameos, Celebrity, & Rob Kardashian’s Infamous Wedding Story

[129:07–131:23]

• Fun banter about celebrity cameo apps, with Feits recounting the time John Hannah (NFL star) filmed an eight-minute personalized message.
• The tale of Rob Kardashian allegedly being sent home from Kim and Kanye’s wedding “for being too fat.”

  “He was too fat to fit in the custom clothes.” – Feitelberg [129:59]

Nostalgia’s Power—Music, Apparel, & Content Strategy

[146:28–149:40]

• The group discusses how everything from “98 Degrees” to 2000s streetwear enjoys resurgence via viral moments, TikTok trends (“Murder on the Dancefloor”, “What’s Up” by 4 Non Blondes).

  “Because the internet is around and everything, nothing really disappears… There’s always a chance for a comeback.” – Trevor Wallace [148:40]

• Insights into YouTube and podcast content strategy—why short-form and “white background” clips are dominating, and the necessity of recurring games/shticks (“Answer the Internet”) for audience engagement.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Failing on Stage:

  “If I bomb, your personality is the type to make that into content—so I don’t think there’s anything short of dying up there that’ll make you stop.” – KFC [03:21]

• On Women’s Approach to Communication:

  “If you want the big, mass money, you have to figure out the canned response.” – Jackie [44:44]

• On Public Pressure & “Apologizing” for Nothing:

  “I didn’t even make the connection you all made—that’s not what happened.” – Bert Kreischer [41:54]

• On TV’s Golden Age:

  “We’re not quite in the Mad Men/Sopranos era, but TV is really, really good right now.” – KFC [106:09]

• On YouTube/Podcast Clips:

  “It’s really just to remind people—if you only watch podcast clips, you kind of forget… you gotta hit those touchpoints.” – Trevor Wallace [150:29]

• On the Cycle of Relevance:

  “The only way to fail is to stop—you keep going, you eventually become a veteran and up again.” – Bert Kreischer [147:10]

• On Comedy & Virality:

  “There are only, like, three people who don’t have to promote—the rest of us are out there grinding, hoping we’ll get 100,000 views in an hour.” – Trevor Wallace [137:43]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening Banter & Stand-Up Nerves: [01:05–11:45]
• Handling Bombing/Comedy Philosophy: [09:00–13:05]
• Personal Anecdotes (Texts, Bathrooms, Male Anatomy): [15:00–21:20]
• Movie/Box Office & Sydney Sweeney Discussion: [22:14–41:51]
• Sydney Sweeney/PR Scandal: [41:52–47:58]
• Gender/Emotional Processing & Relationships: [63:05–78:33]
• Pluribus/Murdoch Murders Reviews & Streaming Culture: [85:34–105:29]
• Trevor Wallace Interview—Murdoch Show, Fame, Content, Cameo, Nostalgia: [117:28–149:40]

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies KFC Radio at its best—unfiltered, self-deprecating, and smartly unserious, but with surprising moments of insight about humanity, fame, relationships, and modern entertainment. Whether riffing about the absurdities of being a working comic, the hazards of viral PR, or the way current events become instant binge-topics, the conversation is always lively, self-aware, and packed with relatable or laugh-out-loud moments. Trevor Wallace fits right in, bringing creator wisdom and true crime fandom in spades.

Transcript

[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[Trevor Wallace]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[Trevor Wallace]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[John Feidelberg]

It's another edition of KFC Radio on the barstool sports network. It's me, Feidelberg and Jackie. She's behind the glass working on the audio, but she's here today. Big day for your boy Feidelberg.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Going up tomorrow.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

To Hartford for the Permission to party tour. Probably what, like your 10th time? 15th time doing stand up into an arena we go. Into an arena, we go.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's. It's higher than that these days. It's actually, it's unfortunately crossed. Cross the level where it's not.

[John Feidelberg]

Up.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's probably 40.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

All right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yeah, you're right Now.

[John Feidelberg]

Now if you bomb, you just suck.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was actually like thinking about it. I was like, damn. Well, like, we get back on the boss. Like, it's not an impressively few amount of times. It's just like you're either good or you're bad at that point. Right.

[John Feidelberg]

So wait, I mean, I guess I just haven't been keeping track of everything. But like, I know you did the tours and I know you did some guest spots, but have you been doing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Stuff other than that or that's all just like. Yeah, that, that gets.

[John Feidelberg]

I wasn't sure if you were like sneaking into like spots here and there in New York or something like that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like I did. I've honestly done a few like little Poppins, but Like, it's mostly out of order tour. Opening for. Opening for Francis is a ton. Because that's like six shows a weekend, right?

[John Feidelberg]

I. I always think of it as like one. That's one. But it's not.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, he's doing. He's doing Thursday, Friday, Saturdays, two shows a night.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay. So, like that, that being on the road with Francis jump me up to a higher. Where I was like, it's not cool. Like, it's just. You're either. Yeah, but that. But.

[John Feidelberg]

But it's. It's cool in the other direction where it's just like now you do stand up comedy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You know? Yeah. Or.

[Bert Kreischer]

Or we'll see. Hell, maybe in a weekend. I. I don't think this will.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't think this is make or break either way. I think this is a. A crazy little blip on the radar. Unless, like, something crazy in either direction happens. But I think you'll. You'll just keep going.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm. I'm thinking the same thing, which I think has helped me be not so nervous about it, where it's like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I also have gotten to the point with it where kind of like in a typical stereotypical comic sense, like, I don't know, it's gonna be pretty funny if I fucking bomb. So I was just gonna say if I do awful, it's gonna be funny.

[John Feidelberg]

It definitely can't be break. It could theoretically be make. Let's say you tell the. The who's got smaller story or something and it just like hits.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. The crowd's going crazy and the clip.

[John Feidelberg]

Goes viral and like, it. It bo up that I get that could happen. I don't want to, you know, expect that, but it could happen. I think if you bomb, your personality is the type to like, make that into content and laugh about it and be funny with it to the point that it almost becomes you can utilize it. So I don't think there's anything short of like you dying up there that's gonna make you stop doing this.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, there. There's a chance I do that, but I'm excited. Like, I think it's gonna be fun. It's 15 minutes. Like, that is also another thing that, like, the more you do it. 15 minutes. To me, it's nothing. Used to be an attorney.

[John Feidelberg]

Isn't that crazy? Depending on what you're doing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. If you're somebody, 15 minutes of strokes is an eternity.

[John Feidelberg]

If you're like, oh, I only got 15 minutes. I can't start this TV show. It feels like Nothing. Yeah, whatever it is, it's all about the perspective.

[Bert Kreischer]

It'll be so. Yeah, it's like, like I've already been telling myself, like, you're gonna be the 15 minutes. You'll be fine. You'll be fine, you'll be fine. And I, I genuinely think I'm confident about the material I have and I'm confident that I won't be taken aback by the crowd. I don't know that I, I might get up there and freak the out, but.

[John Feidelberg]

Have we ever done anything like that? Have you ever like, even just like, didn't you like go in the ring at SummerSlam or something like that?

[Bert Kreischer]

No, no, I was on the floor, but I wasn't in the ring, but.

[John Feidelberg]

I thought like maybe pre show or something like that. Oh, that was Bob Fox. Some of those guys once got.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, Bob might have done.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm just wonder, like, have you ever been like, in an arena like that? Like, have you ever been at center ice or center court or something like that?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. So you at least like, kind of have the perspective.

[Bert Kreischer]

We've been. I've been at center ice, I've been at center court. Like, I, I, I've been in, in an arena where actually at.

[Jackie]

You did go at SummerSlam.

[Bert Kreischer]

What's up?

[Jackie]

You did go at SummerSlam.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was there, but like, I wasn't, I wasn't like a part of the show.

[John Feidelberg]

But I, I thought like pre show or something like that maybe.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, I think Bob and Brandon were, but. But I was not. I, in my experience doing shows, what freaks me the out is empty seats. Yeah, maybe a shitload of full seats will freak me out, but what we haven't seen that yet. What gives me anxiety and stress even, like, you know, we do shows at the Wilbur and like we sold out 1300 tickets, 1100 tickets. But like, you know, we did the Monday, the March Madness one where it was like Patrick's Day March by like 700 people. So like they were by 300 for an open seats. I saw those. That stressed me out, bro.

[John Feidelberg]

I, I remember. It's so funny looking back on, like, what stressed you out versus me out? I think we're like, we, we just had different perspectives of our whole live show experience. Because I remember there was one show where the way you were sitting looked at, there was like four empty seats that just was in your field of view and like, literally the rest were. It was like those people just got up to go to the bathroom. It wasn't even like, you know what I mean? And you, I remember afterwards, you being like, I was freaking out the whole time and I was like, I didn't even notice that I thought we were cooking. And like, so it really just depends.

[Bert Kreischer]

I vividly remember that show Y. Because I'm so embarrassed about how I.

[John Feidelberg]

Acted at it because you, like, froze up.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, like, I, I was, I was so bothered by those four seats that like, I slunk down in the chair and I pulled the burn my hat down because I was embarrassed of myself and like, I gave the people in the show a bad reason.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that was fucking lame of me and stupid of me. And I, I don't know, it just bothers me so that I think you're.

[John Feidelberg]

In a very different spot as a person though, for sure.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I think so too.

[John Feidelberg]

I, beyond even just this, I, I just feel like you are a very, like, unflappable person now. Like, I can't imagine any scenario that you would really be like, outwardly, maybe inside you're feeling something, but let it affect you, like, outwardly to people unlike anything in the world. Now.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think we've been through it all.

[John Feidelberg]

Good, bad, otherwise. And like, I think you'll be very like, well, that was a thing that happened. Good, bad or otherwise.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think I, I hope that's what will happen. I, yeah, I, I, I, I, I really hope I don't bomb and come out and, and hate myself and think I don't have talent or ability. I really don't think, I don't think that'll happen. I really, really hope I don't come out and go, well, that was great. I'm great at the almost. I'm the best. I don't think that'll happen either.

[John Feidelberg]

I'll make this promise here, I'll check you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, you could slay.

[John Feidelberg]

Like I said, it could be like the crowd was like the Apollo people getting up, go viral on the Internet and I'll be like, bro, chill.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think partly why my nerves have remained as, as calm as they are is because, like, I don't, I don't really get like that. I, I am pretty good at being like, this is what I think. This is how I feel.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, that's what I'm. You do that with everything.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't think 15, 000 people will convince me otherwise.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

One way or the other.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. And that's almost, to me, in that field, something I don't really have insight on, but, like, just my, my guess, I think that to me almost feels like 50, like half is being funny. And the other 50% is like not being affected by the people, the crowd, the size. Bombing. Not bombing. Like I think you staying even keeled.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Is like the only way you keep going because you're going to have bad moments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam Morrill just said. Wait, who? Oh, Dom Mattingly was in the crowd and he took a picture afterwards and he was like, just ate shit in front of my hero, Don Mattingly. And Sam Morrell, I would say is like maybe the most technical, proficient comic in the world. And he's still bombing, you know, or.

[Bert Kreischer]

In his mind bombing bombing by his standards, which I.

[John Feidelberg]

But. But even more importantly, like. So yeah, whether he bombed or not is probably a. A perspective thing. But he was affected by Don Mattingly being in the crowd. So like, you know, you can really make it and still have moments of like who's out there tonight or who's not out there. And big, small.

[Jackie]

You know what I realized in the last like comedy show? It's. It's so much like like music if you were like a composer. Because it's more about like feeling the.

[Bert Kreischer]

Pulse of the controlling the room rather.

[Jackie]

Than like cuz it's the same jokes and just like knowing like that's not going to land right now. If I say it right, this is.

[John Feidelberg]

A hot room, it's a cold room. You're really like an mc, like in the sense of like master of ceremonies, where it's like you have to run this.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You're not. I mean I think that's when the next level. I think you could just get out there and stand there and tell your jokes and it could be good. But I think once you're like, okay, this side of the room is this way and this side of the room's that way. Do some crowd work, feel the, you know, deal with these acoustics, whatever. That's really what it's about, I think is controlling the room.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that's why I think which the.

[John Feidelberg]

Room matters so much people. Oh, it's a good room or a bad room? It's a great spot. It's. The building somehow has like a vibe, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't have a clue how to control 15,000 people.

[John Feidelberg]

But that might be the other side.

[Bert Kreischer]

It might be 10,000. I actually don't know what the. I'm just.

[John Feidelberg]

Once you're talking five. Five figs, like Nate says. Like I remember though, when we talked about when we went to see Bill Burr, that was the first time I had seen someone in an arena, I believe. But you Know, there's so many people. I think the. The worst is probably like, 3000 2500, something like that, where it's like, you almost do have everyone's attention all at once, and you have to run it. You're gonna. People getting up to go to the bathroom, they're getting beer. They're like, it's just too much going on.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think it'll just be arriving, too. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

That's the other thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think the show, season seven, I'm probably on at 705.

[John Feidelberg]

You will probably see some empty seats.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You do have to be ready for that. But again, it's like.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I also don't care about these things.

[John Feidelberg]

That.

[Bert Kreischer]

This one, I didn't sell the tickets. Right, Right. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I remember looking at empty seats being like, this is our failure. This is money coming out of our pockets. All that balcony.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, Right.

[John Feidelberg]

This is like, I don't know. Bert's only going to make, like, $2 million tonight instead of, like, 2.5 or whatever, you know?

[Jackie]

I mean, you could even, like, spin it in your head where there's going to be nobody at the start, and then people will come in, and then you can just be like, I'm drawing them.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm drawing. Yeah, they're all coming in. That would even be fun.

[John Feidelberg]

Yep. Come on in here to see me.

[Bert Kreischer]

You guys here for the John Feidelberg show?

[Trevor Wallace]

Please sit down.

[John Feidelberg]

Do you. Could you see a world where you're bombing and you turn that into your material? Or, like, if you're bombing, do you think you're just gonna be like, head down and keep going? Or would you be like, almost break the fourth wall in a way and be like, I'll tell you what, guys, is like, I got invited to do this. I'm, like, in over my head, like, and be that way. Or would you just keep going?

[Bert Kreischer]

I think so. It's a tough question. I. My personality, I think, is the second one. My personality is more of, like, look, we all feel this. Yeah, let's talk about it.

[John Feidelberg]

Right?

[Bert Kreischer]

But I remember reading a Conan o' Brien quote that was like, that's the wor. Like, he was complaining how, like, a lot of comics do. Do that now. And he's like, that's the worst thing you can do. Everyone in the audience should be assumed that they are at a show that's going flawlessly. And I don't.

[John Feidelberg]

I think that's a Conan o' Brien talking, though, where it's like, your shows.

[Bert Kreischer]

Pretty much are going flawlessly all the time.

[John Feidelberg]

I I also think knowing you as like a content creator, I know you hate that term, but, like, you know, not a. Just a true comic, like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, for sure.

[John Feidelberg]

It's more like, it's more like what we do at barstool. It's like sometimes things go messy and we, we just go that direction then.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, I think, I think that's what I'll do. I hope you don't have to find out.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I, I think I could see.

[John Feidelberg]

You being good at that and that being like, well, I turned, you know, lemons into lemonade, where it's like that self deprecating humor worked.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Now that we're talking it out, I think I would do that because, like.

[John Feidelberg]

But I think you should only do that if you're like, bombing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Because it was just like, bad, bad, bad. Because I've been.

[John Feidelberg]

Someone's throwing tomatoes at you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I've been in the room where a comic is bombing and been thinking, like, are you just gonna act like you don't feel like we all hate. Acknowledge that. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

See that if it was like, oh, boy, you guys hate me, that would be good. But I, I. What I don't think you should do is, like, if there's just not enough laughter or like, oh, that one joke didn't hit as much because then I think you're just like, shooting yourself.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, no, I would never. Because I've had plenty of times where like a joke that I know works. Didn't work.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I've never been like, oh, this room doesn't like that. Definitely. I would never do that. But, like, if it goes on long enough that. Yeah, we got to talk about this.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. My least favorite thing is the, like, oh, this, this crowd. Like, I'm too edgy for this crowd. Yeah, you always hate that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Jackie was saying she dealt with that this weekend, that someone was like, yelling at the crowd and was like, it's.

[John Feidelberg]

Not, it's not us, man. So, yeah, that'll be, That'll be something.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is everyone going? Are you going?

[John Feidelberg]

I'm going.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[John Feidelberg]

Although I. I don't have a tick in. I'm going. I might be outside the arena, but.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was gonna go.

[John Feidelberg]

I was planning on going.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[John Feidelberg]

Because I think we should also, like, film a little, like, vlog type, you know, we should capture this moment. I would sincerely imagine that Bert and his team could make room for us.

[Bert Kreischer]

I would think so. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I did it.

[Trevor Wallace]

What?

[John Feidelberg]

I was texting with him about something else, though. Like, I had texted him Saying I texted him saying, you know, I know you're on the east coast right now, would love to maybe do something with you if you can make it to New York. Or maybe we could like bring mics and do something in the green room.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And just no, didn't respond. And then hit me up afterwards talking about the page sporanic golf thing. So that's. It's always weird when like if someone leaves you on red but then they resume talking to you and it's like, okay, that's just. We're just gonna pretend that above didn't happen.

[Bert Kreischer]

There are a lot of times I actually when I go to text somebody, I intentionally don't look up. Yes. Because I'm like, I don't want to see because it might be me. It might have been me who got left on red or me who left them on red. Like I was like, whatever. Because I sometimes, sometimes you just forget. Sometimes you just don't see a text and you don't reply to it. Is nothing, nothing implied by your non response. But just like I forgot to reply.

[John Feidelberg]

Text ninja.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah. And so like I'll just like almost like I used to do when I would hungover, delete my text where I would cross my eyes and like one.

[John Feidelberg]

Of your most brilliant contributions, tell the people again in case it's new. Listen.

[Bert Kreischer]

So when back when I was drinking a lot, I used to send text messages to drunk, to people drunk. And I was embarrassed by that in the mornings. So I would look at my text messages and I would like cross my eyes and you can see enough so you can swipe and the red box will pop up and you can just delete but you can't see enough that you can read the words or who they're to. And that was a pretty useful tool for 25 year old John. It's one of the most brilliant things you've ever come up with.

[John Feidelberg]

I would just love to see you like you're in bed, you know, shirt off, chocolate melted on you.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like, john, what are you doing? No. And then I jump in the shower, I'd be like, fresh day, baby.

[Jackie]

I thought of a new word like text nisia or whatever. There needs to be a word for when you are like at a restaurant with somebody and then you go to the bathroom, but there's a line to the bathroom. So then you like come back and you like want to tell them like because if you try and explain that then like there's nothing good. But if you just say like Line, line, bathroom line. And then they just go, okay, there was a line.

[Bert Kreischer]

I did that with my friend the other day. I don't know. My girlfriend the other day. I don't know how to handle that. Whatever. That's like on other shows. I. I just say, my girlfriend on this show. I freak out. Whatever. The other day I was at the Whitney and. Which is a museum here in New York, and the bathrooms were like, down a corridor and my girlfriend went to the bathroom and I walked by and saw she was in line. And then I like, walked by again, like, checking out a different painting and saw she wasn't in line anymore. So I was like, okay, I'll just wait right here. And then I waited there for like a couple minutes, but 20 people walked out. And I was like, I know, they're single person bathrooms. So when she came out, I was like, why the fuck where you was in the bathroom so long while, like, the other one was just fucking rotate a revolving door. But clearly you were in the bathroom for a long time. And she's like, you fucking idiot, There's a stairwell right here. And so people were coming off onto the floor.

[John Feidelberg]

And you thought they were all coming.

[Bert Kreischer]

I just. I was like, she's got like, she's fucking taking a long time. You dumping hugger.

[John Feidelberg]

Dude, it's so funny that, like, bathrooms stuff is still. To the day you die. You'll be awkward about it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, you get a little bit better.

[John Feidelberg]

But like, I.

[Bert Kreischer]

But some people aren't and they should be. Some people are just like, I gotta.

[John Feidelberg]

Take a. I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. Like, Tommy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Tommy still has the worst one that's ever happened to me. Like. Like, I was offended by was The Barstool Awards 20, whatever. The 20th anniversary.

[Trevor Wallace]

Mm.

[Bert Kreischer]

I just smacked myself in the dick. I just did one of those. Like, you let my thumb down hard. But a nuts. A nuts, Yeah.

[Jackie]

I learned so much about the male body every day.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's just fucking twisted around. Like, if I were to draw my dick right now, you would be like, what the fuck? You ever.

[John Feidelberg]

You ever twist them?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, dude, I got a nut under my legs right now. I got on top of my legs. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's. It's a goddamn nightmare, dude. It's a nightmare.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, logically though, think about it. Like, imagine if we. I'm done. A cylinder and two balls that are like, mushy and just threw them in between your legs. You'd be like, what the.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is there a pen over there? I Actually.

[John Feidelberg]

You want to do the chocolate?

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a cheeseburger between my legs.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Jackie]

Oh, my go.

[Bert Kreischer]

I would love you to do the job. I would love the diagram. A cheeseburger.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't even know what that means.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, because I got a nut on top, and I got a nut on the bottom, and then my dick's just in the middle, mashed up.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, so it's. But no, it's more like a hot dog on a hamburger bun.

[Trevor Wallace]

Because.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. Your dick is.

[Bert Kreischer]

My dick is long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like.

[John Feidelberg]

So it's like ball. Ball.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was ball.

[John Feidelberg]

It's almost like a division sign.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, that's exactly what it is. There it is.

[John Feidelberg]

But is it a division sign sideways or up? Up.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was a division sign. So like, we figured out it's a division sign. It's a division sign. Oh, Ed Sheeran. Yes, Ed Sheeran. Albert.

[John Feidelberg]

Maybe Ed Sheeran was actually just drawing his dick one day when it was all mashed up.

[Bert Kreischer]

So it's like, right, there's my quad. Okay. And there's a nut sitting there, and there's a nut sitting there, and there's a penis kind of just twisted and.

[John Feidelberg]

Wait, do you have another. Is your other quad over here?

[Bert Kreischer]

No. So, like, that's. My other quad's blocking all this.

[John Feidelberg]

You see what I'm saying? No, wait. Draw both your quads.

[Bert Kreischer]

So it's.

[John Feidelberg]

Here.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's.

[Bert Kreischer]

I made it. I made the quad, like, invisible there. So there's my quad. Right Here's a nut. Here's a knot. Here's a penis. And the other quad would just go.

[John Feidelberg]

On top of the pen.

[Bert Kreischer]

Disaster.

[John Feidelberg]

Nightmare, bro.

[Bert Kreischer]

Holy. That's just. This is our Silicon Valley Daily Showed class together. Imagine if the next drawn together was just you take a picture of your. What's your dick look like right now?

[John Feidelberg]

Not on your best day, not on your worst day.

[Trevor Wallace]

Just.

[Bert Kreischer]

What is it looking like in those trousers right there?

[John Feidelberg]

I'm gonna do a new episode, Drawn Together and. Okay.

[Bert Kreischer]

It just gets mashed. It's smashing.

[Jackie]

The child.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're fully indoctrinated.

[John Feidelberg]

By the way, the fact that she's dropping a quote like that, we have ruined your brain. Jack is gonna go home quoting Frank and asking Dan, so, Danny, is your dick, like, a division?

[Bert Kreischer]

I also, while I do love that quote, it is a misquote. Charlie is not mashing it. Gail, the snail's mashing happens.

[John Feidelberg]

All the great quotes are always, you know, Luke, I am your father. Is never said. I don't Even know what we're talking about.

[Bert Kreischer]

My dick. No other museum.

[John Feidelberg]

Tommy. Tommy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, yes. So Tommy at the Barstool Awards, he came into my room. For some reason I forget why, but he comes in my room and I've told.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, you mean at the hotel? It's not at the show?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, at the hotel. And I told the story a bunch of times, but he. He came in and he stepped. He broke the threshold. Step one foot into the room, and he goes, you mind if I go use the bathroom? And I said, sure, use the bathroom. And he went, thanks, I gotta wipe my ass. And I went, dude, that's so much grosser than having to shit. Totally.

[John Feidelberg]

It means you failed. Failed at shitting elsewhere and now have to resume your shit here.

[Bert Kreischer]

This whole walk we've had, you've had dump in your cheeks. It's disgusting. It's the grossest request that's ever been asked of me. Can I use your bathroom so I can wipe my ass? Like, what? Why?

[John Feidelberg]

I'd rather a full amount of poop coming out. Then you just need to clean up your ass. By the way, speaking of that, I. I watched the Long Walk last night.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, is that good? I've heard.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, you haven't seen it? No, I just always assume you've seen every movie before me. I liked it a lot.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I heard really good things.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, it's, you know, it's a Stephen King novel. So it's not like I say it's an original concept. It's original by Stephen King, but, like, it's a very cool.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't know how, you know, Stephen King does. That's really, really badass. Sells a lot of his stories for a dollar.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

To people who.

[John Feidelberg]

So they can make the movies.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I think it's more. He does it to high schools, but I think he does it to.

[John Feidelberg]

So they can do the production.

[Bert Kreischer]

So they can, like. So they. They can buy the rights and they can make the movie. So he'll just like, for like, not obviously not for things like it and things like that. But, like, I think he's like, I have enough money from the.

[John Feidelberg]

That is cool.

[Bert Kreischer]

And the. That like, yeah, you want that story? Fine. Here's a dollar. Go make the movie.

[John Feidelberg]

That is cool. Yeah, you know the concept, right? Like, I've seen the trailer. So it's like this. It's like a alternate history. 1970s, I believe I looked it up that it was the Vietnam War. Caused a civil war in America. And now we're in, like, this Dystopian bleak future.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

And one of the things that they do every year is you can you. There's a lottery. So it's like, it's weird because it's a sign up, so you like have to want to do it. But I guess everyone tries to do this. So like a few select people get chosen and you just have to walk, you have to keep walking. And the army has a truck that just rolls alongside you. And if you fall below 3 miles per hour or you stop for like 10 seconds over that, you get shot if you win and you keep going until there's one left and the one person gets untold riches and one wish that like they get whatever they want. I don't know. They don't really specify how much money it is and they don't really specify what the wish could be. But you know, the, the, the, the. The tagline is sort of like if you. You'll have everything you've ever dreamed of if you last.

[Trevor Wallace]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

And they start walking and they walk for, I think it's like four days, like 350 miles. But you gotta take a. During that time. And, and like the. With. It's kind of funny because like in my head I'm like, I think I could go four days without. I think I sometimes almost do that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Normally my life was on the line, but with this one, like one poor bastard, like on day one, like mile five, he's like, I got diarrhea. Which is like, maybe you're so nervous that things can happen. But you know, there are, there's a couple scenes where guys just like are walking and. And then they just like pull their pants up and then walk another hundred miles with like, shitty butt. And I, I was like, I think.

[Bert Kreischer]

Swing by the Weston in Boston. You can use my room if you want. You can wipe it.

[John Feidelberg]

They all have like backpacks and, and I was thinking like I would bring like some snacks and some wipes and all these things. Yeah, yeah, I think that would be it for me. Like, I think it could be on mile two if I took a. And then had to walk without wiping. I mean, that is the worst thing in the world.

[Bert Kreischer]

Took a. I gotta take a shower now. Yeah, yeah. I think my body is so like, we only before showers. That's like, that's how it almost should be.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like the only time you're gonna push this out of your body. You need to be in a running water, soap situation directly after. I mean, I guess that's why people like, when People make the bidet switch. I think they look at us like you animals.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, and it's kind of true. I'm not an animal.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm an American. The. It's funny, you saw, you watched the Long Run last night. Because I saw the Running man, the new Glenn Powell.

[John Feidelberg]

What is that? That's a sci fi movie, huh?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's a remake, right?

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a remake of an Arnold movie from the 80s maybe.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay. I like just found out about this. Is it good?

[Bert Kreischer]

I didn't care for it and I, the reason I thought of it and to say that is because it very much reminds me of the Long Walk, which I was excited to see. And now that you explained it, I'm like, oof, that might be the running man for me. Because I couldn't get into it because, like, I just, I, I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

What this movie's like. But the, the other one is what I did find very interesting about the Long Walk is it's right away there are people who are like, let's be buddies.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And they're talking and then there are other people, like, you're my competition. Like, I want you to die. And there's kind of a cool like, dynamic about like, selfishness and selflessness. And it's more than just like people and getting shot. You know, I, I think backstories and all that. So that might help your situation.

[Bert Kreischer]

Sorry. I think, I think you're exactly right. I think with the running about with the Running man bothered me. I'm obviously not a sci fi guy, but particularly dystopian futures really bummed me out.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, like they're real true stories at this point. They get like really bleak and just depressing. And I, I, the kind of. The same thing would happen in the long run is like if you, if you complete the Running man, which is the world is hunting you for 30 days, you get a billion dollars. And it's more like there's not enough. There are only. They're like assassins. But the world is trying to report you. So you're trying to hide from every.

[John Feidelberg]

So they can't kill you, but they can report you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. So they'll basically send a video, send footage of you, send videos you do.

[John Feidelberg]

They get like money.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think they get reward. Yeah. And I was just, I don't know, I couldn't buy. The whole thing was so bleak that I just couldn't really buy.

[John Feidelberg]

Then you probably won't like, I mean, the Long Walk is like the walking.

[Bert Kreischer]

Version but it was so much. There wasn't any of that relationship stuff. Like, I like that. Like the discussions. So then you like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Backstabbing. Like, I don't know that that intrigues me. But I also think I found it hard to get into just because, like, I. I wasn't a game show kid or game show. I wasn't raised in a game show household.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

So, like, the idea of doing something.

[John Feidelberg]

Like this for money is like, I'm.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I wouldn't do that.

[John Feidelberg]

Well. Well, I did find that interesting too, though, is like, they start out, like I said, it's weird because you would think this is something like Hunger Games where you have to, like, sacrifice yourself. This was like, we signed up for it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. That. That's. This is the same thing.

[John Feidelberg]

So then. Yeah. So then it's like. But then, you know, by mile, like, 100, they're like, we up. Like, we shouldn't have done this. You know? And then they're trying to think of, like, can we get out of this? And, like, you can't. So it's like that I found interesting where it goes from like, I'm gonna win this. Because here's what happens, like, in a couple. This is what was going on in my head and happens to a couple characters. Like, the minute you get tired, it's over.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Because you're just going to keep getting tired.

[Bert Kreischer]

So, like, one energy works.

[John Feidelberg]

One guy gets like a Charlie horse. And it's like that. You might, like, get a second wind a little bit. Like, you're.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. It's like an old person breaking their hip.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's exactly the end of the line.

[John Feidelberg]

This thing in and of itself doesn't kill you, but, like, you're done.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes. It's over.

[John Feidelberg]

They also. I don't know how feasible any of this is, but they, like, kind of walk and sleep at the same time, I guess. Could be, like, not sleepwalk. They're walking and sleeping. You know, those are two different things. And they're kind of like, hold each other up, I guess. I guess they could. You could get, like, a little bit of rest, but, like, not really. So I don't even know how real any of it all is, but it's. It's emotional and cool and like, there's backstories. I. But I. I also could see myself liking Running Man. So maybe this is not your jam, but I think being a Stephen King novel is more than just, like, it's worth a shot.

[Bert Kreischer]

Running man had a. That's actually why I really brought it up because Stephen King. Stephen King wrote Running Man. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So he must have wrote those pretty close to you. I'm doing a walking one.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is crazy. It's the same very similar concept that Stephen King wrote both of them. The.

[Jackie]

It's.

[Bert Kreischer]

It would be. I, I would say it got like, I'm in the minority. People like it for, like. I wouldn't say people love it. It's not like Twisters, but people like it. And I. It's also directed by Edgar Wright, who I don't like. He did like Scott Pilgrim versus the World. I just don't like that style that much. I don't know. I didn't really like it, which is a bummer because, I don't know. I wish I would say it was amazing. Go see it. But it was.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know. It was. Okay. While we're on the topics of movies, I wanted to. I wanted to have this conversation last episode. And then since then, it's only become more relevant. I don't. And I don't want this to be viewed as, like, simping for Sydney Sweeney because that's where my content has been going recently. Everyone's not gonna, you, dude, it's like.

[Bert Kreischer]

The worst thing in the world to.

[John Feidelberg]

Be on the side of a hot girl as a guy because no one's.

[Bert Kreischer]

Being on the side of a woman. So switch again for supporting women.

[John Feidelberg]

But I meant this before all this happened, but now I mean it even more. We as a society have to shift our mindset when it comes to the box office. We just have to do it.

[Bert Kreischer]

What do you mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, when music shifted to streaming, we shifted. Like, you don't sell millions anymore. You can. You can have an opening week where you sell 100,000 records and, like, you're a hit, you know, you're a success. And we kind of like accept that. We're always like, oh, if that was in the old era, it would have sold this much. Sometimes it's more, sometimes it's less. But we kind of like acknowledge there's a difference.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Streaming movies has, like, taken over the world. It's going to affect the box office. So defining everything by box office numbers in this current era I think is crazy. Like, very few movies. The Avengers are going to be like the billion dollar movies and, like, the rest are going to take a hit and going to be, you know, failures a lot of the time. We just have to stop measuring movies. You can still do it, like, somewhat. You know what I mean? And the reason I mean the, the Sydney Sweeney thing is like ultimate bomb in terms of money. But I just, you know, I think we've kind of lost the plot on. I, I just my, I follow a lot of movie accounts and entertainment accounts and it's just like all anyone does it's, this was a bomb, this was a bomb. This is a bomb. And they compare it to old ones. It's just about the box office numbers and like, I don't know, there's a lot like the Christie movie. I have never seen a trailer for it. I didn't see an interview for it. Christy Martin didn't do any promo. Like, I don't think this was, I think maybe the movie turned out bad and they were kind of like hiding it or whatever. I don't know. I haven't seen like anything of it until it came out. So I just think promotion counts and what type of movie it is. Like, I don't think the Christy Martin biopic was ever going to be a super hit smash money wise anyway. So I don't know when we just started applying box office to everything. Like if you, if you're talking about a blockbuster and it bombs, I can understand that. But like, yeah, some indie film passion project is not going to be, you know, multi hundred million dollar box office.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, I also, I just think, and I, I know, I understand it's like society and I'm not going to change it but like who cares? Yeah, I don't, I don't understand and obviously I'm a little sensitive to this issue at the current time, but who cares? Like the, I feel like, like judging things by a box office is like judging a sports team by their ticket sales. They won the championship or not. Like was it good or not? Good team or not?

[John Feidelberg]

People do do that, but it's far less, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But yeah, I think I've always said.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, because the Mets always get that a lot. Like, look how empty the stadium is back in the day. Not anymore. And I always said like, I, I don't care. I could be the one person in the stands.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right?

[John Feidelberg]

Or like I was like, I don't really go to games often, but I'm at home. Like, and so those stuff, I would.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like you to have a home field.

[John Feidelberg]

Advantage and all that, but if not and we win, I don't give a. Yeah, right. So if this movie is tremendous and like nobody went to see it for whatever reason, like that shouldn't be how you judge a movie.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I, I think it with records and Stuff like that. Like, I don't really care how much it's sold. Yeah. I like. Do you want to talk about it? Because, like, I. I don't know about the box office. I don't know about its record sales.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

I can tell you what I thought when I watched it.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But, like, I just think that's a weird.

[John Feidelberg]

The only time I do get.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I also get, like, I get that that is an industry. So if you work in that industry, totally, completely normal. But the like, for. I think it's only haters utilize.

[John Feidelberg]

That's what I was gonna say. Numbers, like, right now, people. The people who don't like Sydney Sweeney just want ammo. And they are like, you failed.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, the same.

[Bert Kreischer]

Exactly. I. I'm. I'm following a different storyline, but the same storyline. The Rock with. Yep. Smashing Machine with Smashing Machine. And I saw two quotes from him today that were. Or three quotes even that were cool. Where one was like, he's. Christopher Nolan says it's the best performance of the year. I tend to agree with Christopher Nolan.

[John Feidelberg]

Him.

[Bert Kreischer]

The Rock is the movie. The movie is not movies. I actually. I like the movie.

[John Feidelberg]

So Christopher Nolan said, the Rock's performance.

[Bert Kreischer]

The rocks performance, which I agree with. I genuinely think the Rock should win the Oscar this year. I don't know if he will, but I think he should. And then he, like. His next quote was like. He's like, I'm done making movies for other people. I've been doing that my whole career. I only make it for myself. He's currently filming Jumanji 2 might be 4. Like, but also.

[John Feidelberg]

But you can.

[Bert Kreischer]

But maybe he likes it.

[John Feidelberg]

You want to see a world where it's like, yeah, me, Jack Black and Kevin Hart have a ball.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'll make 20 of these. Emily Blunt, the fourth. Yeah. Like, yeah, that's pretty time. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that is actually perfectly fair. Like, Adam Sandler's like, yeah, I like doing uncut gems. I also like going to the crib. Aniston.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, well. So Sydney Sweeney, like, people like, she had three out of her. Four movies are like bombs. And it was like, Americana.

[Bert Kreischer]

She bent some stinkers.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. But I think they were all, like, produced by her as well. And there is part of me that's like, if you're like produ. If you're just like this, I make the. That I want to make. Like, there is some. I. I don't want to, like, give her too much bail. If you make a bunch of shitty movies, then, like, it is, yes. But I. I also think, like, the. The Christie one is kind of unfortunate because I. I believe it's a story about how Christy Martin was, like, abused and, like, overcame it and stuff.

[Bert Kreischer]

I wouldn't. I don't even know. So that's.

[John Feidelberg]

That's what I mean. That's the problem. It's like nobody knows the story. I don't think it was promoed usually for these things. There's like an interview with Christy Martin and Sydney Sweeney together or whatever, you know, like, they.

[Bert Kreischer]

They definitely. They had some appearances. I don't know if they did full interviews, but, like, I did see him together a few times.

[John Feidelberg]

I think if you were to make a movie that was about a person, like a real true story, and it was a moment in history that is, like, really renowned, well known, and everyone feels it, and it was a tragedy, I don't think you're getting the, like, box office treatment because I think you would look like a. If I made a movie about 911 and it bombed, I don't think people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Would be like, this didn't make any money.

[John Feidelberg]

I think because I think people would be a little more sensitive to, like, well, this is like a movie. You know what I mean? And, like, so, you know, it kind of sucks for Christy Martin to, like. Like, her story is just being overshadowed because people don't like Cindy Sweeney right now.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

But then.

[Bert Kreischer]

But there's also the. Also, the one thing I'd say about that, too is like, everyone on that movie could have made that movie and gone like, every day at shoot. They could be like, yo, this isn't going to be a big movie. Like, we're making an indie movie. And then it comes out and it's an indie movie. And everyone goes, it's a failure. Yeah, we weren't making the Avengers, but we were making.

[John Feidelberg]

I think they did that, right?

[Bert Kreischer]

What?

[John Feidelberg]

I don't think they. I didn't see them being like, Christie is gonna be like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bert Kreischer]

Everyone's attacking them and they're like, yeah, we were saying it the whole time.

[John Feidelberg]

Right? We didn't. We didn't make. We didn't get Iron man, dude. We're not.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, we're making different things. Like, you know, sometimes you're making a pop hit, sometimes you're making a emotional song. Like, I think I was making what you think I failed at making.

[John Feidelberg]

The problem is the timing. It's like, what would have been good right now is a smash, you know, just for PR purposes. But did you see Ruby Rose's quote?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

She called her. She was like, you're a cretin. And, like, you ruined Christy Martin's story by being the person in this movie. And I'm sort of like, again, I.

[Bert Kreischer]

Think she's pretty damn hard. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And I, and I, I think she, like, produced it, and because she used to box as a kid. So it's like, I think this is, like, a near and dear story to her. Like, I, I, I would be irate over a comment like that. I'd be like, well, like, right, like, like that. That's, like, as low as it gets. And I don't know, maybe, you know, like I said, everyone thinks I'm just, like, simping for her. But, like, I genuinely, from what, I don't know the girl at all. I don't think Sydney Sweeney is, like, a racist, horrible girl.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't.

[John Feidelberg]

I think she's, like, a pretty, it seems like she's pretty, like, from the, if you take all the, the controversy out of the GQ interview and listen to the other stuff she said, she.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is very controversy with that. I saw, like, the still memes, the.

[John Feidelberg]

Girl, the interviewer, first of all, she, like, the whole interview was just to get to talk about, like, the American Eagle, Trump and politics, and they're dancing around it a bunch. And then eventually. And she's also just, like, not a great interviewer. She, she, she says, like, at least, like, 10 times. I was just wondering if that's how she asked every question. And I just, like, and I've made. I, you know, I've, I'm no expert interviewer myself. These are all mistakes I've made. So I was watching it through that lens of like. And then, but then she gets to, like, the topic, and she's like, the American jeans ad, you know, she, what she says is, I want to give you the opportunity to, like, fix this kind of. She's like, I want to give you the opportunity to. Oh. She says, in this climate, people say that white people should not be speaking on, like, eugenics and ethnic shit. And I just want to give you the, like, opportunity right now to address if, like, you support that or something like that.

[Bert Kreischer]

And what did she say? Because, like, that's the easiest answer of all time.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, so I, I, what would you say?

[Bert Kreischer]

I would say, yeah, I didn't do that about eugenics. I did an ad where I have good genes.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, so I'm Sydney Sweeney. Basically, what she said.

[John Feidelberg]

So she, she said the ad speaks for itself. One Time. And then the interviewer was kind of like, that did get a little crazy. Right. It was almost like she was on her side. And then. Let me get the exact. Let me. It was like it came across as. To the people who just were very reductive about it, said interviewer Sydney to Sydney Sweeney, do you disavow racism? And Sydney Sweeney, you know, says like, no comment sort of thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, and like, you could boil it down to that, but it's more like, hey there, like, you did a totally normal thing and the, the public reacted in a way that created a controversy. And now I want you to speak on that and get involved in that. And she said the ad speaks for itself. And then she said something that I thought was so great. She goes, when, when there's something that I think is worth talking about, you will hear from me. Which to me is like the ultimate, like, it's, it's like the, the most well done, no comment. Where it's like, this topic is stupid. I'm not going to get in the mud about it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

If there is something that I need to speak on, you will hear from me. Like, you know what I mean? It was very, like, I thought that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Was great that, like, I feel like people did the same thing to Caitlin Clark when Caitlyn was kind of taken on by racists.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because it was, it was undeniable. Like, it was happening. But Caitlyn had nothing to do with it. So, like, to, to blame her and expect her to, to say something. I, I also do think, though, like, it's easy enough in an interview to be like, what do you think about that? Like, yeah, I don't agree with it.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay, so I agree with that too. Like, I probably would have said, like.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, yeah, I'm not a eugenics fan, but here's. I'd say I'm not a eugenics fan. It's insane that people did that and made that leap and that jump. I did a jeans ad and I made some word play about Gene.

[John Feidelberg]

I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

First of all, I didn't even do it. I didn't write it.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, see, this is that I agree with you. But then this is what happens where all of a sudden it's like, the problem is what she, what people are perceiving this interview as. Is like, you were. We're, we're thinking of it. The public is like, we want you to speak on racism. Right, Right. That's not what's really going on for her, though. What she is, she's like, I am dealing with, like, the Internet mob mentality. And that gets different because it's like, you would think it would be as simple as saying, I disavow racism. But the people that she is trying to, like, apologize to or make amends with or whatever you want to call it, don't like her.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, but I wouldn't.

[John Feidelberg]

Never going to.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I wouldn't be doing it for new fans. I would just be doing it beyond. Yeah, I don't like that. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's easy enough.

[John Feidelberg]

I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

But then. And I'm not. I'm not speaking for.

[John Feidelberg]

Let's play it out. And then, like, what if the interview follows up with, like, well, then why did you do the ad?

[Bert Kreischer]

Because I didn't make that connection that you guys all made.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's like, well, like, you. Why did you not have the foresight to do that? Like, I'm just saying it can. It can go. And then also, you find yourself in a spot where it's like, I'm in a corner no matter what what I say here.

[Bert Kreischer]

But, like, I think I'd be able to talk my way out of it because, like, I'd be like, yeah, I don't know. I. I didn't read that and think, this is an ad for white supremacy.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's my answer. And also, I'm against white supremacy.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. And that's where, like, there's a fair argument that's like, you. You could have addressed it. But I also see the other side of, like, I am not getting involved in this because I could see the public, the same public who was crazy about this thing is not going to be crazy about the way I apologize or if I apologize enough or.

[Bert Kreischer]

But that's all. Again, I'm not doing it for them. Like, it's just. I feel better about my consciousness. Go.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay. You know what?

[Bert Kreischer]

I do like that. That took. That went off crazy. I strongly disagree with white supremacy.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I'm not saying that Sydney needs to do that. I'm just saying, like, that in my. If I was in those shoes, I probably would have been like, I. If you're all asking it. And, like, I never thought I'd find myself involved in this conversation, but if people are genuinely concerned that I'm a white supremacist, I'd like to nip that in the bud.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I think, though, if what you're saying, if you're really doing it, like, for your own conscience, if. If she is like, I know I'm not a fucking eugenics racist.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, I wouldn't say deliberate sad and weepy and.

[John Feidelberg]

No, no. If you're really just doing it for yourself and you know the truth and you know, this is crazy. Like, if it's. I think if it's really just about your. Your own self, I don't think you need to really dignify with a response. I think by responding, you're almost like, catering to the craziness. You know what I mean?

[Bert Kreischer]

In a way. But I don't know if I'm just outright asked, what's your deal with white supremacy? Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I just think that there is more. It's a little more reasonable than people are acting for you to be like, I'm not engaging in this because I don't think there's any winning. And, like, it's so silly. I. I don't think it was, like, the best tactic, but I think it's a. It's not as crazy as peop. As the people who hate. Because the people who hate her are gonna just.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I keep thinking about, like, what you said when I was talking about Fishbowl the other day and, like, how it's harder to be girl and whatever, but you said, like, that's your job to figure out how to. How to play into that and how to, like, you know, work for that or whatever, which is true. It's like, that's where. That's where, like, the big bucks in Hollywood and, like, the big bucks in football all get. Because it's your job to figure out, like, how the masses are going to manage it. And it's like, if you want to be an indie film maker, then you can go make your indie film and do it for you. But if you want to go to the masses, then that's your job to figure out how to, like, deliver to the masses. I feel like with Sydney Sweeney, it's like, yeah, she could do something. She could have a response that's for her and for her only. But if she wants, like, the big, you know, mass money, then she has to figure out how to, like, say the canned response.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

But also, you know, I think.

[Bert Kreischer]

Which I think she does want.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. And that's. That's.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think Sydney Sweeney, from my understanding, seems to be a person who wants to be a megastar, which.

[John Feidelberg]

That's.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I mean that. I respect that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, I. I might just be drinking the Kool Aid a little bit, but, like, from what I've. The interviews, I've Read and seen of her, I think she seems like a pretty down to earth person. That's not to say she doesn't want to be a mega star.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. And then there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a mega star. Yeah, like, like plenty of people in Hollywood want to be megastars. Nothing wrong with it. But like, I think with the bath soap and the Scooter Braun.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, Scooter Braun was a weird one. But, but I remember she did an interview saying, like, while I was trying to make it in Hollywood, my family was like, broke. We had to like, move houses and we had debt. And so I think there might be a little bit of that, which, like, yeah, I'll do this so bad for money. Like, I came from nothing, kind of. I also think that in, in, in terms like this and it's, you know, it's not just a left and right thing because it's like a man and woman thing and feminism and all that wrapped up. But I do think this is primarily falling into, like, liberals who think that she's MAGA and all that. Right. And I think that that group always thinks, like, there are people right now who are like, it's over for Sydney Sweeney. Her career is done.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, they're stupid.

[John Feidelberg]

And I'm like, she's fine. I think sometimes the left thinks things are, like, bad for business. And it's like with your group, it might be, but like, American Eagle jeans went through the roof, dog. You know what I mean? Like, I could see a world where people go out and buy tickets for Christie now the right being, like, we got a supporter, you know? So it's like, I think sometimes you're like, this is, this is a career killer. And it's like, well, it's like you're actually like, benefiting over there. Because there was an equal response of people saying, look at this girl who didn't take the bait and wasn't going to apologize for something she didn't do. And like, yeah, so, but I, I.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think, and I know, like, that's a barstool thing, is like, we don't apologize. I, I think that's weird. I think, like, if I offend, if I'm like, if I said something wrong.

[John Feidelberg]

In this case, though.

[Bert Kreischer]

But yeah, I think that's what she said.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, if I, you know, if there's something to speak on, you're here for me. Like, I think if she did something racist, it seems like she would apologize. I think if you do something that is, there is nothing wrong with it. And then you start to get wrapped up in apologizing. I, I, I, I think you're allowed to stand your ground on that.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I agree with that. But the, like, I, I just acknowledge other people's feelings where what you should.

[John Feidelberg]

Say, look, I'm sorry you've, yeah, I'm sorry that hurt your feelings. I'm sorry you feel hurt by that. That was not my intention and I don't want to hurt anybody.

[Bert Kreischer]

And again, nothing I'm saying is, I'm not saying what Sidney should have done. I'm just saying what I would do. And like, I think I'd be like, look, if you got caught up in that wave where you thought this was a racist ad, I'm sorry you believed the stuff you read.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

But that's not the case.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know what I mean? Like, like, I'm sorry you got duped, but that's not what happened.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, and I, and I think that probably would have been a better move, but watching the way her like, non apology did rally some fans, like, I don't know, maybe if you do that, you get nothing. Maybe if I say that people go, that wasn't a real apology. You, you didn't apologize for your actions. And the other side goes, ah, she caved and apologized and now you're left with nothing. And I think from like a movie, like a career point of view, if you're talking about like your conscience and just what's right and wrong, you, you should speak on things. But if you are like, this is a PR situation and I gotta like, manage the people, like Jackie saying, like, there probably is some logic behind, like.

[Bert Kreischer]

That'S so insane too, that like, there's people find themselves in those situations where, like, well, I gotta think about the fan bases. So I gotta, I gotta answer my white supremacy question accurately. Like, but just say what you think about white supremacy.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I know, but like, it's insane.

[Bert Kreischer]

That we're like, it's tiptoeing around it.

[John Feidelberg]

And maybe it was, you're for it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Just say you're for it, whatever, I don't know.

[John Feidelberg]

And maybe it ends up being a bad, like there were, it was kind of a 50, 50 split. Like, you, you're racist. And people being like, you didn't apologize, that's good. But if you all sudden have Ruby Rose, I'm not saying you're a Cretan. And like, I know there were whispers about how Bezos wanted her to be the Bond girl. And maybe he's like, I don't want that. Smoke anymore. Like, maybe this island, it being a bad PR move. But I, I think ultimately, like, especially once it's gotten out of hand with like two or three, three or four things now, I think she should do, like, everything. You're just saying, like, she, she should do a sit down with like, I don't know, maybe Joe Rogan, maybe just be like, yo, this got crazy. We're not doing left to right. Like, as a person, here's what I believe, and like, get her out.

[Bert Kreischer]

I thought it was pretty funny. Wordplay. Jeans. Jeans, yeah. Like, pretty basic, right?

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, it's.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I didn't realize these, like, the, the politics world was going to take it. Like, I don't know. Like, it's pretty simple to me.

[John Feidelberg]

They, they baited her a little bit. They said, like, so when you were kind of in the, in the heat, like, you, you. You had some pretty powerful people, like, coming to your defense. Like, Trump put out a tweet. And like, and like, that was pretty crazy, right? And she was like, yeah, that was, that was crazy. You know, it was, it. It was just very all. It was very leading questions, sort of like, so Trump's your boy, huh? He defended you, right? And she was just like, that was nuts. And, you know, they were like, do you want to speak on this? She's like, no, not really. And that's where I also think people can just look at this one question or look at this snippet. But I also can imagine a world where you go into this interview and you sit down and you're. You can feel like, oh, these people are trying to me. You know what I mean?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, all the questions, everything is set.

[Bert Kreischer]

But also go this way.

[John Feidelberg]

And like, then you start. I think that interview goes differently if you get that vibe, you know, maybe.

[Bert Kreischer]

But also, like, GQ is not a. Like, they don't do that. So, like, it's Gentlemen's Quarterly.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, it did feel weird.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's not like a gotcha journalism company. So. Yeah, again, I haven't seen.

[Trevor Wallace]

That's why.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know. Those, Those questions were very. They did feel kind of gotcha, you know, now you got people breaking down, like, the interviewers, facial movements, saying, like, this is fake empathy. She, you know, like, it's just getting crazy.

[Jackie]

It's just getting great.

[John Feidelberg]

Everything's just so crazy.

[Jackie]

Going back to kind of like what you said about. It's weird that you have. She even has to come out with a response, like, saying that she's not. I think this, with professional Athletes is like, they have to, it's crazy that they have to deal with. Well, they get paid so much I think because they have to deal with the knowing that people are like betting their houses on them. You know, it's like the pressure of that. But it's like even crazy that at that level, like there's so many insane fans for like, I don't know, professional sports that like, that is why they get paid the big bucks. But it's just because people are so like insane that they'll literally like send them death threats if they.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Drop a pass.

[John Feidelberg]

And that's why it's so similar with Sydney where it's like, why couldn't you just answer this one question? And it's like I, I don't think you know what it's like to be an A list superstar where it's like, it's not as in this case. But I, but other times it's like you think it's simple and it's going to be a domino effect that leads to this. And then I'm, you know, how, but.

[Bert Kreischer]

Also how hard is it? Like I, I saw a clip of Joe Kim knows on PMT today and he was talking about how much it sucks meeting with the media, which I get. You know, you have a 10 year career, you meet with the media 80 times a year. Like you get sick of it. But I also just don't understand why.

[John Feidelberg]

It'S so hard to answer a question.

[Bert Kreischer]

But like he was, he was specifically talking about like, he's like, you know, I think sometimes they'll get up and I forget who was saying what because PFT and Dan were also like making jokey questions. But it was like, it's like, well, you guys lost. What happened? You know what happens? Tell them.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, like, like, like I don't know, like, why is that? That's not crazy to me.

[John Feidelberg]

But again, I wonder if sometimes you're like, that's the guy from the New York Post who always tries to me.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And so now I can't just be honest because you're going to take half of my quote and fudge me. You know, it's just, it's just more.

[Bert Kreischer]

If they're personal questions, that's a different ballgame. But like I actually like being asked about stuff. I do the work because I'm like, I want to know why I did it. And I probably won't even think about it until you ask me right now. So like speaking through it. Yeah, now I'm talking I'm figuring it out. I have, I think, like, people, like.

[John Feidelberg]

Why would you ask me that?

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't fucking know. Yeah, I'm curious what you think.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, especially when I get that, like interviewers and especially special beat reporters in. In sp. The more, like, thoughtful your question is, the better. But like, sometimes it is sort of just like, what happened out there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, that's what the guy at home wants to hear. So I'm gonna ask. And I. And I think people sometimes want it to be more thoughtful and intricate. But then I think sometimes I want to be like, just what's your gut reaction if I lead you down this road and you go down that road? I want you to pick the road. I mean, it happened with the. The guy who gave up the home run to tie the Dodgers. To tie it. The. The Hoffman, I think his name was on the Blue Jays. And it was some question. Just like you gave up the game tying home run or game winning home run, whatever, you know, like, how did that feel? And everyone's like, obviously it sucked. Right? But. But he, he came back and said like, yeah, I. I feel like I let down all my teammates and all of the fans. It's like, that's. Now that's a good sound. That's a good, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, it's like.

[John Feidelberg]

And had you said, like, I know that you're probably feeling sad, but. And, and then he would have just gone like, yeah, or whatever. You know, it's like you left it open and he answered it.

[Bert Kreischer]

I can see where some days I'll probably be annoyed and I'll be pissed and I'll give you a response answer.

[John Feidelberg]

And that can come across as lazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

But other times, largely, I appreciate your existence and I appreciate your questions.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes, but. So I agree with all that. But then I also can just. I would imagine the last, like six months for Sydney Sweeney is like, spiraling out of control, where it's like, I've never spoken on politics. I didn't vote one way or the other. I like. And now I'm caught up in this whirlwind that I didn't. She should do this. The Taylor Swift, the. I want to be excluded. That's genius. Like, because I don't know everything else. I don't think everyone else is, like, listening to the rest of the interview. But she's sort of like, I surround myself with like, all my regular friends. Like, I'm just Sid to them. I don't, you know, she's not living, like some lavish life. What bothers Me the most about the city Sweeney hate is if politics or whatever broke a little bit differently. The same people who hate her would be like, praising her. Like, now it's, oh, she just like, shows her tits and that's it. And that would be like, that's feminism and empowerment. Yeah. And like, I think, you know, people like, she's not. She's not hot enough. Right. And it's like, I kind of appreciate that she doesn't have, like, the plastic surgery face and looks like every other out there.

[Bert Kreischer]

She's a not hot person now. Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

There are people who like, she, like, I don't get the fuss.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like, I was. I was one of those people. I like to get ahead of this. I was one of those people before it was in vogue. But I did like, I. I was always like, I didn't watch Euphoria. I don't really know. She looks like. She looks. Obviously she's very attractive, but, like, I didn't get that next level passion for her.

[John Feidelberg]

I. I actually agree with that too. But I'm just saying, the same people who will be like now hating on her also.

[Bert Kreischer]

But mind you, I get it now. I've seen more stuff. She's been.

[John Feidelberg]

It's just, you know, I hadn't seen.

[Bert Kreischer]

Euphoria at the time of the original tweet. I've seen Sydney Sweeney do some stuff these days. Now. You got pretty talented actors.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. There's just such a fine line between you're just tits and sex and you're not hot enough to get all this treatment. And I don't know why you get it to, like, you're beautiful, you're. You're independent and feminist and like, you use your sexuality and, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And then you. Even the Christie movie, I can see people being like, oh, wow, she. She made it to stardom. And the first thing she did was, like, tell this story of this woman who was abused as a survivor. And instead it's like your movie Bombs.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's just.

[John Feidelberg]

I can see how you could be the darling or the villain. Razor thin, you know? And I can see when you're in that being, like, I don't know. One, one. One word this way on the hero, one word this way. I'm the villain. Like, I don't know what the to do. So I'm. When. When you want to hear from me, you'll hear from me.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, it's probably also cool, like, if you acknowledge that it is a knife's edge and you're gonna Slip on either side a couple times.

[John Feidelberg]

That's really the best way.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, look, what's gonna happen is gonna happen. Like people. Some people are gonna get mad at me about this sometimes. Some people are gonna get mad at me about that sometimes. I'll keep doing my thing.

[John Feidelberg]

I've thought about it from a sports. Sports point of view. Part of me feels like if I was ever, like a rookie and like, you're. Let's say you're like a LeBron or something, like, where you know you're gonna be good, like, it's. It's not even a question. I think I would, like, start my career by being like, do an interview, almost being like. I've always seen there are athletes who give canned responses and they don't get into a lot of trouble. But people say, like, it's annoying because they want to hear, like, the truth and the real. And then there are people who speak their mind too much and they get, like, villainized. And I'm gonna be whichever one, you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Know, like, just tell people or more.

[John Feidelberg]

So I think if you're going to be the honest person, I think I'd be like, I. The rest of my career, I'm gonna be honest with you guys. I'm gonna tell you when I'm feeling down. I'm going to tell you when I'm feeling jealous. I'm going to tell you when I don't think it's my fault and all that. And like, I hope that you don't twist my words and me on that, you know, and just like. Because once you put that out there, I think it might be tough for people to kind of weaponized against you. But then I could also see a world where people say, like, no, no, don't do that. That's gonna be terrible. Like, you're gonna. You're gonna. Yourself. So just keep the. Keep the canned answers.

[Bert Kreischer]

So I'm trying to find a quote real, real quick. There's a hockey player, Ryan O'Reilly, the other day gave a same kind of thing where it was like, how was the game? And because he's already issued an apology for his comment because it was so, like. It was like. It was like, I'm gonna kill myself. It was so depressing. Yeah, you want the real answer? Yeah, I put.

[John Feidelberg]

I wrapped a gun around my lips tonight. That's. That's what I did.

[Bert Kreischer]

After the Predators lost to the Philadelphia flyers last Thursday, O'Reilly offered a brutal assessment of his own play, saying, Nashville won't have success if I'm playing Pathetic like that. As a number one center, I turned the puck over everywhere. I can't make a six foot path to save my life. It's stupid. I've had one good year in my career. I don't have an answer, that's for sure. And then last night after the game you went. I came off like a bit of a crybaby.

[John Feidelberg]

But that's a classic. You can't win either. It's like people complain.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh.

[John Feidelberg]

Give all the canned answers. Then you give something passionate.

[Bert Kreischer]

But also that was too much. But like I think most people liked it. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I think that's why I think.

[John Feidelberg]

You just gotta be that guy. Keep going and I'll apologize when I up.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'll had one good year in my career. Ryan O'Reilly, by the way, has won like three.

[John Feidelberg]

Awesome.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I don't think he definitely has one. Beat beat the Bruins with the blues.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[John Feidelberg]

Wow, I didn't know he was out there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, Hamilton Ryan Castro. I don't know who that is. But that's all this weekend.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm gonna be going to Monday night Raw.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, Rob's Monday.

[John Feidelberg]

I did see that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, thanks.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

Two quick updates from when I was just in the bathroom. One, I scrolled Twitter while I was on the bathroom. Marvin Harrison Jr. Just. He's out for this week because he just had an appendectomy. And it reminds me of that. Me and Ben Roethlisberger had an appendectomy.

[John Feidelberg]

On the same day he played football.

[Bert Kreischer]

The next day, Ben Rosberg was playing football. Before, I was walking, like, walking regularly.

[John Feidelberg]

Getting hit.

[Bert Kreischer]

Rollinsburg was back in like, a week and a half. I was at home. Couldn't watch Talladega Nights because it hurt too much. Next time you're.

[John Feidelberg]

You're criticizing an athlete, remember like, that.

[Jackie]

You know, what is an epidectomy?

[Bert Kreischer]

Appendectomy. Yeah, I remember Ben Rosberg was playing football. My buddy the night before had brought over Talladega Nights to watch it, and I turned it off. I was like, it hurts too much to laugh. And then the next day, Ben Roethlisberger played football. And then the other thing was the Rock. I read another quote of him, that Jumanji 3 is the last movie is last July. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So he's done.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, he's done.

[John Feidelberg]

I had a. I had an incident last night.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh.

[John Feidelberg]

Something that's never happened to me before. And it's. It's embarrassing, but it's hilarious and actually kind of interesting, too. So I. I've been very stressed recently. I have personal stuff, professional stuff, physical stuff. Just a lot on my plate. And, like, I. I know that it's a house of cards right now. Like, I'm not handling this well. I'm trying to keep my head above water. I, like, probably have, like, five things. Yeah. Like, five life issues that are all hidden at once. And so last night, I'm going down to the basement in my house, and it's the. The side that's being. It's under construction. The house is one of the things that I'm like, I'm firing my contractor. I'm getting a new one. I'm stuck in this thing. It's gonna be so much money.

[Bert Kreischer]

Nico Harris in them. Yeah. If you listen and start packing things up. Yeah, you're done, bro.

[John Feidelberg]

So. So I'm just stressed. And I go down to the basement, and I'm walking down a dark, tiny basement stairway, and at the bottom of my steps, it curves. So there's like, a weird step where it's, like, it's all normal stairs, and then one that curves and it's bigger and it's a little bit. It's just weird. And as I'm walking, and it's in the dark. I can tell I've missed. And so there's, like, this split, split second that I know it's gonna be a problem. It felt like an eternity. It's like in, like, a video game where you have, like, concentration mode where.

[Bert Kreischer]

You push a button where it all slows down.

[John Feidelberg]

And I was like, I'm going to fall. Like, my foot is not hitting the right spot. It felt like a minute of time. And I go down, bro. I twist my ankle, I smash my elbow. I almost. I thought my shoulder was gonna pop out. Like, I went down. If I was an old person, I would have been, like, dead. One of those falls, and I hit, and I'm like. Right away, I'm like, oh.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, this is so bad.

[John Feidelberg]

This is gonna be so bad. And I'm like. I'm a little bit high, too. It's a smoke before it. So I'm, like, just disoriented. And all of a sudden, I think I went into shock. I get up. I was like, ah. Like, my ankle really hurts, but, like, it's okay. My elbow, like, really hurts, but I just banged it. And, like, I checked my shoulder. I'm like, all right, it didn't dislocate. So I am good, but in pain. And I get back up, and I walk back to my. To the. To the couch, and all of a sudden, I get insanely cold. Like, my body went. I was like. Like shivering, teeth chattering, like, freezing cold. And I had. I could tell I was, like, disoriented in my head because I was like, why did I even get up? Like, what was I in the basement for? And what did I. Like, I didn't know, like, where or what I was doing. And then I wept like a baby.

[Bert Kreischer]

I.

[John Feidelberg]

Uncontrollable. And. And I started laughing because I was.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, what the is this?

[John Feidelberg]

And so now I'm laughing and crying. And then I kind of was like, this is crazy. And I was like. And I took a minute, and I was like, all right. Wow, that was nuts.

[Bert Kreischer]

And it just started again, and it was.

[John Feidelberg]

It was. I think my body was like, we're not done. We're not done getting this out. And I, like, wept again and started laughing. And it was, like, about two or three rounds of it, like, laug, laugh, cry, stop, Resume. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Bert Kreischer]

You feel good.

[John Feidelberg]

Do I feel good now?

[Bert Kreischer]

You feel better after. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

That was.

[Trevor Wallace]

It was.

[John Feidelberg]

I probably could have if I really needed to. If my kids were there or at work or something, I could have, like, stopped myself. But I was like, my body is trying to do it again, and I'm gonna let it, you know? And it was like. It was like a. And this has happened to me before, but never from a physical, like, going into shock type thing. Like a. A pouty, weepy. Like. Like, stop making the noises like a baby crying. Like, it wasn't just, like, a sniffle while tears go down my face.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was like, dude, I get, like, jacked up when I feel those come.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm like, yes, hell. Trying to get this decade behind me.

[John Feidelberg]

I know, right? It was. It was. I attributed it to being. To being old. Do you think there's an age thing? Like, I think I was like, if I was a young man and I fell, I don't think I'm going into, like, physical shock, but I was like, but maybe it's because I just. When I was a young man, I didn't have any stress and how many worries, any responsibilities, so there was nothing in me to, like, get out.

[Bert Kreischer]

Get out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And so then I'm like, maybe it's.

[Bert Kreischer]

Just that I used to just fall and be like, all right, time for a fruit roll up, right? Or, you know, time for a beer or whatever.

[John Feidelberg]

So then I was like, maybe it's just that. But I was like. But, like, stress and responsibility comes with age, too. So, like, I. I think my. My body physically reacted to, like, oh, your ankle, your shoulder, your elbow. Like, this sucks more so than when I was young. And I think my mind and my heart was sort of like, you got a lot on your plate, and, man.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was the weed, too.

[John Feidelberg]

And the weed.

[Bert Kreischer]

The weed, too.

[John Feidelberg]

I was. I was definitely a little like, yeah, I wasn't.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, the weed makes you a little more emotional.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't enough that I was, like, on another planet, but I was for sure, like, compromised in that sense. And it was.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, I put, like, three. I had a heating pad and, like, three blankets on top, and just like, slowly kind of stopped. And. And I was like, all right, let's put this movie on.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I think that. I think that freezing thing is a stress response.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Whatever it is, I've felt it. Well, I know exactly what you're talking.

[John Feidelberg]

About in the moment. Person I was watching TV with was like, are you all right? And I was like. I was like, yeah, yeah, I think I'm okay. And. And. And then I said, like, I'm just getting a little bit cold. And they were like, yeah, you're like you're soon. I said that. They were like, oh, I know what's happening. It was almost sort of like, I'm gonna go get everything you need right now because it's about to hit you.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then it happened. I was like, dude, when I get that cry, which again obviously doesn't come around a lot, I like sprint to the bathroom mirror like you get on Christmas. Like, I want to see this. I want to see you reap what you've sold. You piece of.

[John Feidelberg]

Put on. Put on the Santa song.

[Bert Kreischer]

You got like swallowing it, you know.

[John Feidelberg]

Because I clearly have been putting it off for, you know, like you said a decade.

[Bert Kreischer]

Get to reaping, brother.

[John Feidelberg]

It's the famous. Well, well, well. If it isn't the consequences of my actions, I guess. I guess I've, you know, you're not handling your life well when twisting your ankle results in like catatonic shock.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know what I do? Again, these are not things that happen regularly. When I feel myself miss a step, I just jump. I should have, I don't know, trying.

[John Feidelberg]

To save it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

But there's. Because usually it's in like the last four stairs.

[John Feidelberg]

But you're not gonna like hurt yourself.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like so like the jump. Because I felt it Again, not regularly. I'm not regularly falling down the stairs, but there are plenty of times you miss a step.

[John Feidelberg]

And I was like.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I just jump and see what. Cuz I don't want to hit like twist an ankle or whatever. But I always do think I'm like one day I'm going to miss a step halfway down a stairwell, going to jump off and that's going to be a problem.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, it also didn't help that I.

[Bert Kreischer]

What happened? He leapt halfway down the stairs. Yeah, it's going to look like suicide. A pile of bones. At the bottom.

[John Feidelberg]

I fell into like when you go down the stairs in my basement, there's like two rooms kind of at the very bottom. You can go this way to get to like the laundry room. And then this way is like a. Just like a cave. So I fell, hurt myself and then fell into a pitch black like cave, you know, so.

[Bert Kreischer]

And that was built in the 1800s. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And not. I wasn't thinking like this is like bad or scary or there's something in there. But I would also also imagine from a fight or flight feeling, it's like we're in pain, we're in the dark, it's cold you're on the concrete.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, we're. I think we just got kidnapped. Snapped. I'm not positive. Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

My body can't, My head was just like. You just tripped down the stairs. My body is like where we're in a horror movie. Yeah, it was my. I, I, my elbow is gonna be like, bruised the up. Like, nothing worse than really banging your elbow. Because now everything I lean on, I'm like, when I drive, I always lean on this.

[Bert Kreischer]

I always say back and mouth are the worst injuries. Because back and mouth, you're using those all the time, all day, every day.

[John Feidelberg]

Way back and mouth is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Like, cool.

[John Feidelberg]

I would throw neck into there as well.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Because you just, you're always looking anything.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right here, anything down the middle.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, I'm gonna use that a lot.

[John Feidelberg]

From dick to mouth.

[Trevor Wallace]

Really?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good call. I, I do also think like, a really bad knee situation is like if you're. Whatever you're walking on.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I'm sure also, like, I have mouth and back issues. I'm sure someone who has knee issues. Yeah, I would say that my knee, that's the thing that hurts all the time.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm standing up all the time.

[Jackie]

I mean, I would imagine it's like you are subconsciously keeping it away. But then when something physical takes the attention off of the. That's exactly grasping. Then, then it's just like all I.

[John Feidelberg]

I think it, you know, it really is like a house of cards. And if everything stays status quo remains. I can keep up this, like, keeping my head above water. And then one little thing sets you back and it's like you're drowning.

[Jackie]

Now I feel like this is a guy thing. Like, for, I feel like it's almost.

[John Feidelberg]

Because you guys just do this regularly. Like a little bit every day.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

We wait for six months.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I, I, I think of it as like, almost like how a guy would imagine has to like come like once every. Whatever. It's like I, if I don't get a cry in like once a week minimum, then I go, oh, there's gonna be something bad.

[John Feidelberg]

That kind of is probably similar to coming.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's. Well, we kind of talked about on this show where the, I remember reading that guys experience the female cycle in a day. Well, you take what takes you a month. Guys do in a day. So we do it like every, I.

[John Feidelberg]

Would think almost the opposite.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, not how again, like, who the.

[John Feidelberg]

Knows what are we talking about? What's like emotions.

[Bert Kreischer]

They're like, they're like, menstrual cycle. Like, oh, a guy like that happens. Like just that emotional roller coaster happens to guys every day. Whereas to women it's more. It's more stretched out, so it happens more slowly. But it's not as volatile.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's why guys are more volatile.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. It's like, I'll punch a hole in the wall.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know. Noon?

[Bert Kreischer]

I might be on my period, but at 3pm I'll be fine.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. Interesting. I mean, I. I really feel my algorithm and Internet is just so.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Guys. So men have a daily hormonal cycle. Testosterone levels highest in the morning and decreasing throughout the day. Women have a monthly cycle averaging around 28 days. And then there's a longer description of this, but it seems like it's pretty accurate.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, I know this is not a novel concept, but I don't think we really operate this way. Like, we're just different. And I don't. I think people, like, know that, but do they really, like, operate that way? It's like, like, I think people often say. I just said this the other week and I, like, kind of regretted saying it was like, men are less emotional and it's like, they're not. It's just a different emotion.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Girls get sad, we get mad or whatever it is, but it's the same level emotion. Yeah, we, you know, women are hormonal. It's like testosterone is just as crazy of a hormone, you know? And. And I just see, like so much on my algorithm is just like, women complaining about dating men and marrying men and like gold digging and divorce and fighting and sex and we're just like, so different. And I, I still think even. But we all know that. But I don't think we really acknowledge it where it's like, if I were to be like, arguing with you, I. You have. You have to accept, like, we're not coming from the same place on this.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

What I would do or. Why are you acting this way? Because I do it differently. It's like, you are not. You can't do that. But I think they're trying to accomplish something different. They're trying to do it in a different way. You're, you know, and it just. You just like, it's that you're not communicating.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, it is. It's. I don't know. I. I got how we were raised with, like, men are from Mars, women are from Visa, Venus. Like, it was. It's like all we were told to us.

[John Feidelberg]

But. But do you really, like Even something.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think you also have to, like, they're both true. You know what I mean? Like, we are the same and also we're very opposite. So like, we just have to acknowledge that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, like, they're. I, I think people just get too. And, and this is an issue with everybody forever. But like, people get too lopped into one side and it's like everyone's kind of speaking their truth. So there's a little bit of truth in their, in basically anything anyone says out loud. There's some truth in it.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

So, like, you have to acknowledge and accept that while also being like, I don't like the way you're saying it, but I do hear what you're saying.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And like, or the man.

[John Feidelberg]

The manner in which they go about expressing it is like, I, like, why are you crying? Or why are you punching a hole in the wall? But we're trying to get to the same place. We just do it radically different. Or even like, I, I was seeing something the other day about. It was like some, some woman was saying, like, making a joke of like, I never my husband. And she was like, you just said she was joking, but like, there's some truth.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And then a lot of the comments are like, don't be surprised when he cheats or leaves you. And, you know, it was a very jokey thing, but there was some truth to it and being taken very seriously. And it's like, I, I don't think women can understand, like, if you don't have sex, that's going to be a problem. And I don't think men can understand, like, they don't view sex the same way. And it's like, like, in your head, it's like, why aren't you me? It's like, well, if you felt the way they felt, like, they don't want to because of this, that and the other. And if you felt the way he felt, you'd be like, we have to do this sooner. It's gonna be a problem. You know, And I, I, everyone knows it and even, like, says they acknowledge it or. But it's like, I don't know if you're really putting that into practice, like, putting yourself in their shoes.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's ultimately just communication. It's like, just tell people what you feel and why you feel it.

[John Feidelberg]

Even that when people say, like, communication is the key and like, without a communication, you're gonna fail, it's like, okay, okay. But it's like, like, but you're not doing it, you know, acknowledging and putting it to practice or two. Very.

[Jackie]

It's also, like, when you're angry at somebody, you're not actually angry at them. You're angry at the way that it reminds you of something within yourself. And so it's, it's also like the other person that typically ends up being your partner is like a reflection of you. And you're not actually mad at them. You're mad at, like, something.

[John Feidelberg]

You're not mad at me, you're mad at your dad.

[Bert Kreischer]

One of the better phrases I ever heard is like, every accusation is an admission.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And it's like, you're just thinking, I'm doing that because it's what you do.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And like, that's why, like, I know that's not how I live. Why, why are you accusing me of that? The only reason it's on your brain is because you do it.

[John Feidelberg]

That it's a big thing with cheating where people are like, the guy who is, like, looking at your phone and going through and stupid is the one. They're doing that because they're cheating all the time. They know how they know what it is, you know, but, but then there's also times where it's like, I don't know. This feels impossible. It's like I can't even begin to get inside your minds. It's like a house of horrors in there.

[Bert Kreischer]

But like, I, I, I guess I'm like, for me, I never try and get inside someone's mind. I just go, why do you think that?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, just like, tell me, tell me.

[Bert Kreischer]

What it's like inside there.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, well, and that's, Yeah, I mean, that's what we should do, you know, Actually, that's the theme of the whole episode. It's like, from interviews to relationships. Like, you gotta, gotta communicate or people are gonna assume or run with it or whatever, you know, it's like I, I, Yeah, I could see where relationships fall apart, where it's like, oh, I just assumed, like, you didn't like me anymore. And it's like, no, I was going through this, that or the other, and, oh, we just said that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right, Right. But it is like you're acting weird.

[John Feidelberg]

Why?

[Bert Kreischer]

I say that all the time. Like, the, your deal. I ask it more politely, but I'm like, things feel different. Why? Yeah, and usually you get an answer.

[John Feidelberg]

It's not even. It's also just like, it doesn't have to be, like, dramatic. It's just like little things where it's like, if you. Friendships, professional things, relationships, like, if you don't like, I almost think you should have like a weekly like recap or something.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Don't even have to be like a grand like sit down therapy thing. Just like send an email. It's like that thing you did earlier in the week kind of bothered me, this thing. Like, I loved what a great moment that was. Here's what I want to do next week.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You know, you can write back and it's like, at least it's like out there. Because so many things get describing.

[Jackie]

Like communication.

[Bert Kreischer]

I know, I know.

[John Feidelberg]

But I mean. And maybe, maybe this is a personal thing, but I just don't think people take the time to like communicate. Little things, but little things. Every day, every week, every month, every year. All of a sudden it's like we're. Because we didn't talk about this. And now if you do try to talk about it, it's too late.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It's too far gone.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

We're setting our ways. Or now it's going to come across as accusatory or whatever. But I know, I mean, I am, especially in relationships, I am like, I will shoot myself in the foot and wait until it's a blow up like every time. To me, it's like we could, we could fight like a little bit right now or we could just like put this movie on and we're good.

[Bert Kreischer]

But then the whole time the movie's on, I'm like, we're avoiding this fight. You know, let's just have it.

[John Feidelberg]

You're not wrong. But I will keep avoiding it. I will Costanza that I'm going to the Hamptons.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think I. I used to be more scared of him.

[John Feidelberg]

Of fights.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because like most of the time it's not a fight, it's just a conversation.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, I think that also is, you know, with age and like, if you're in a better relationship, it's easier. Like, I think there are times where you're. At least I felt like if we fight right now, like, this might be over.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Yeah. Somebody's gonna hit me or something. Like, this is gonna get a word. We're breaking it. Yeah. Like if I break this tension of the water, like, it's over for sure. Ben, that had those.

[John Feidelberg]

And then you're with an adult and like, you're good. You can be like, I'm pretty confident that I could like, like even be accusatory right now. And like, we'll be okay.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know what I mean?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, but getting there is.

[Jackie]

Or I think, you know, like when it's over is like, if you're avoiding a fight because you're like, I know that I'm gonna just have to end up surrendering in this fight. Like, and I don't even want to have to be like, every single time I go into something, I'm just gonna have to surrender and then it's just gonna be frustrating.

[John Feidelberg]

I know I'm gonna give up anyway.

[Jackie]

I know why you give up anyway. So why even like.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, just like. Yep. And those are, those are things you have to communicate. Like, I feel like I can't even bring up an issue to you because it's going to be a fight and I'm going to lose, so I don't even do it back. And then that person says you. And then there's also moments where I, I, I, I go back and forth on this. I'm like, I think if you need to, like, go to couples therapy, you should just break up. If you, if you have like these issues that you really didn't speak of, like, you're probably just not a good.

[Bert Kreischer]

Fit for each other, you know, but.

[John Feidelberg]

Also that's, you know, unrealistic as well.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I'm also, I was just thinking about it as you're saying, like, I'm a bad fighter because I, I won't let you off the mat. Like, not if you're winning the fight. Not, not winning, but, like, I'm not let you out the mat. I won't let you out of the ring. Like, we're finished with finishing.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I will follow you. Like, yeah. And again, I'm not a yellow.

[John Feidelberg]

That is pretty bad though.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm not a yeller. I'm just like, I, I'm not, I've never really been a yeller. But like, I'll be like, why are you leaving?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

We haven't accomplished anything.

[John Feidelberg]

Right?

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, what the are you doing?

[John Feidelberg]

I can also, I feel that. And that's probably the more like adult and productive way to do it. But I think also when people are like, I need a minute or a breather and you keep going, it's like.

[Bert Kreischer]

If you need a minute for sure. But like, if you're trying to just end it, we're having a conversation. I don't like ending a conversation open ended. Like, let's have a, let's fucking figure it out and then we'll fucking move on from there.

[John Feidelberg]

I'm also the king of just being like, okay, you're right. Like, I'll do it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And they know it's phony. And I'm like, no, no, no, for real. Like, I understand where you're coming from and I will do it now. And they're like, no, you won't. You're right.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're right.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

As far as writing and a story, it is like so original. The acting is so good. It's a mysterious show, but not to the point of Lost where you're like, what the is going on? And it's the way.

[Bert Kreischer]

Whoa. That was very cool.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's shot in a way that I don't think I realize how much Vince Gilligan has a style until I watched a second series of his. I know he did that like CBS cop show after Breaking Bad. Do you remember that? It was, it was, it was pretty much a failure. It was like a cop procedural on one of the networks. And it was like, it's not. It was something called like Wind River. It was not that. But yeah, you know, and I remember just not even really watching it, so I didn't know. So watch. And Better Call Saul was just like Breaking Bad. This is a different show, but you can just see the camera angles and it's in Albuquerque, so the same backdrop. It's like the camera angles and the way he shoots it and this. And the montage is like, oh yeah, we're. I'm waiting for Walter White to pop out. And the acting is incredible. Rhea Seahorn, I think her name is. She was the girl from Bringing Better Call Saul. It's just so sick. And it's sci fi, but you're not a sci fi guy. But you like it, right?

[Bert Kreischer]

I love it. Okay.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, I'm a stuff I guy, so I love it. So if you're worried about that, I think it'll still play for you.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think so too because. Because, yeah, Sci fi. I'm. I'm not really a guy. The first episode, I really enjoyed it, but I was like, I'm not sure if I'm going to be around for the full ride on this because I don't really know what this thing is. The second episode, when the storyline starts, I became fully invested. Cuz to me it's very clearly about AI.

[John Feidelberg]

I could see it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, right. Like it's like, like the. So in episode two, when Pirate lady comes.

[John Feidelberg]

Wait, so let me, let's, let's explain the, the basic. So the, the opening. The, the. The opening is like a guy. Guys at like a seti. You know what it's called? No.

[Bert Kreischer]

Satellite.

[John Feidelberg]

Satellite? Yeah, Satellite dish. And they, they, they find like a signal from space that is like, this is extraterrestrial life. This is something. This things unfold to the point where all of humanity is now Under. Is this a spoiler?

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay, if. If you don't watch it and don't want spoilers, you should have stopped by now. Yeah, Right.

[John Feidelberg]

So all of humanity is now under one collective consciousness. So, like, you're talking to me, but technically you could talk to the entire world. I have the memories, the feelings, the opinions, the thoughts, the understanding, the information of every brain on the planet. And there is, I think, seven people worldwide who. This. It's a.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like 12.

[John Feidelberg]

12. It's like a pandemic. It's kind of like a disease that spreads.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

And Everybody gets infected.

[Bert Kreischer]

Five that speak English.

[John Feidelberg]

Right? 12. So 12 people worldwide, five that are English speaking that do. Did not come into this collective brain. So they are. And the one, Rhea Seehorn, is like. She is a author who writes like. Like trashy romance novels that is wildly successful, but she's like this. I'm not satisfied. So she's very kind of, like, bitter and jaded. And this new collective humanity is ultra positive and happy and confident. And so the tagline is. Did you rip ass?

[Bert Kreischer]

No. Okay. That was a very good.

[John Feidelberg]

The tagline is like, the most unhappy woman in the world needs to save humanity from happiness. But I. I definitely see what you're saying with AI. Continue that thought.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay. So when Pirate lady comes out and which I didn't realize, that's her at the start of the episode. She's coming from Israel.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Or wherever. That was the one who's all, like, up. And. Yeah, you hit your head on that shelf. Do we have it on camera?

[Bert Kreischer]

All right.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You gotta go to the shock. Imagine Jackie just gets cold, starts crying.

[Bert Kreischer]

But the. If so. So she comes from Israel, and the first thing Rhea Seahorn says to her is, who are you? And she's like, someone we thought you might like. And that to me, struck me as like an avatar or something like that.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then when she was talking about when she said, like, you're gonna need a pickaxe for that. A lot of volcanic ash under there. I was like.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, that's.

[Bert Kreischer]

That seems like chat.

[John Feidelberg]

GPT telling you.

[Bert Kreischer]

And it was like, your neighbor has one in their yard over here. And then there was. Oh, and then the other guy, the French guy, who's like. When they're like, you can have anything you want. When it's like, you can fly on Air Force One if you want.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

And you can live in, like. It all felt very.

[John Feidelberg]

I could see that.

[Bert Kreischer]

AI. Yeah. Single brain to me. And so I'm interested in that because also, The. The arguments that take place in episode two, I think are accurate argument. I'm obviously not much of an AI guy. I don't hate it. I don't think it's the end of the world, but I don't really. I don't see the use.

[John Feidelberg]

I see it. It's very much like, are you going to adopt it and. And use it? Because there's a lot of benefit. And she's sort of like, I don't care because I want to be.

[Bert Kreischer]

At one point, she outright tells them, you are a traitor to humanity.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, okay. I actually didn't pick up on that as much. I came from it from a point of view of. I really like shows that have one central question that, like, kind of dominates the whole thing and really, like, gets in my brain. The Leftovers was very similar.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Where I was like. Like, the whole thing to me, there's all these relationships and different episodes, but the whole thing to me, every time I watch it is I was just like, what would I do if I was in a world where there was a rapture? Like, how would that affect me with religion and family and friends? And. And that would just. And. And I found myself. I thought of it more from the, like, mental health point of view of, like, everyone wants to achieve, like, this happiness, but, like, okay, here it is.

[Bert Kreischer]

This is.

[John Feidelberg]

You're in utopia and it may not be all as cracked up to be, you know, And. And I. I can't. Every minute of that show, I'm just thinking, like, would I adopt it? Because I don't want to be the only guy who's not in it, but I don't want to be in it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, but maybe I'll be the guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Who'S in it, but benefits from it. And. And I just go around and around, around, because, like, when you have. If you haven't watched the show, it's like having access to, like, the entire humanity is like, we can fix that for you. We can answer that question. We can. You can me. You can. I'll cook for you. I can all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And.

[John Feidelberg]

And. But I. So there was a moment. There's one guy who is living lavish, and he's like, I'm gonna. This woman is gonna be like, my partner, and I'm gonna go to travel, do whatever I want. And I was like, I think I would do that. And then I was like, wait a minute.

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

I'd be like a kid.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, you're your grandma. She uses. At one point, she's like, Your kid knows how to do open heart surgery. He's not your kid anymore.

[John Feidelberg]

Right, right. Your kid, your gynecologist is like, you know, like.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I'm very excited to watch cuz I am personally more of a Raya Seahorn when it comes to AI. Like, I'm more of her character, Carol, I believe her name is. Where like, I don't know. I don't really. Again, I'm not. I don't think it's the end of the world. I'm not one of those doomsdayers, but like, I don't know. I don't really need it, so I don't really use it. But the other guy who I think is going to be around because everyone else left except him, I think he's a regular in the show. I completely understand his arguments. Yeah. Like, and I like that about a show where like, I'm again, not much of an AI guy, but the pro. AI arguments seem. They check boxes. I'm like, yeah, right. Where he's like, he's giving her the speech where he's like, you're telling me this is the end of the world? This doesn't look like the end of the world to me. And like, I get those arguments from AI.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

So I'm like, yeah, I don't know. Like, I'm interested to see how that. And that's.

[John Feidelberg]

I also think it's. It's a. The bigger question is it's coming, right? It's happened. Do you really want to be the only. You're taking this principled stand to the point that you're like, gonna make your life a living nightmare. You know what I mean?

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, but you also, like, like, do you. Maybe my life's a bigger nightmare If I have 8 billion voices in my head.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, well. But yeah, I would think that. But the way it's at least being portrayed to them is like, it's a positive. This is you. You don't realize this is the best thing that's ever happened. And like, so how about this?

[Trevor Wallace]

What if I.

[Bert Kreischer]

Knowing Vince Gilligan's comments, I think that's not gonna end up what happens. And also, I mean, beliefs on AI. Yeah, the.

[John Feidelberg]

But so what if I. If I could tell you, like, if you sign up for this, whatever will infect your brain the right way. So you. You join the collective. You will have no regrets. You. There won't be a part of like, it will be all good. You'd still say no.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, because then I'm just not me. Like, my Only job here is to be me.

[John Feidelberg]

But, but you're also staring down the barrel of like it. You will be alone. Like there's five other people. They hate you now. Whatever. They left, they don't speak English. They're all around the world. Like you're, it's just, you're just gonna be by yourself. I, I, I, I think I might try that and with pretty quickly be like, if you can't beat him, join them. I'm not gonna just live by myself.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like it would, it would be. I, I would try to do what I do now, which is I'd live my life life as normally as I can until it's. You get to an impasse where you're like, I gotta make a decision here.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I would definitely try and just be like a person and I would have no problem interacting with the people. I'd be like, what's up? How you doing?

[John Feidelberg]

Good to see you. So that's what I hope they do a little bit of like, you could, I mean, I don't even know how we, we haven't even like begun to address like, is money a thing anymore?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Do you need to like, will someone just cook for you? Can you get food and shelter like for free? And like, you know, there also might be some kind of, if you want to get like political. There's communism and there's, you know, there's probably a lot that we're going to unpack here where it's like if some, if everyone was just sharing and being helpful and good and caring, like would that be good with. Are there pitfalls that you don't see? I, I think that's, there's so much meat on that bone.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

For seasons and seasons. If they want to do it. I think it's going to be so sick.

[Bert Kreischer]

He is, he said four seasons. Like it's gonna be four.

[John Feidelberg]

But that's also good that like, or.

[Bert Kreischer]

At least that's what he wants it to be. He might be more like, who knows. But he wants, that's also like not.

[John Feidelberg]

Too much because when you try to do like an eight season show, you're, it gets out of control, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

But the, also what I noticed in watching episode two in particular, because that's where most of the discussions start taking place is I remember reading a David Fincher quote that about screenwriting where it's like no character should ever be wrong. Like, you should not preach to both sides. You should not preach to your audience.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Both characters should always be right.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I Saw it very much in that. Where I was like, yeah, I mean, look, he's right. Like, if you could take any plane in the world, why would you not take Air Force One? Yeah. Like, there's nothing. He's not doing anything wrong. But I also don't think re doing anything wrong, so I'm interested to see how that plays out.

[John Feidelberg]

There's also a very. A huge wrinkle to this. Again, I don't spoil, but, like, Ria se Horn has the ability to, like, up the collective brain. And when she does that, there are deaths because they basically, like, go into a seizure. So if people are flying a plane and driving a car, and she does this thing that makes the collective, like, brain fry, she causes death. And she starts to witness that firsthand. So then you reach a point of like, well, now me, like, standing my ground and being, like, principled is actually causing harm. So do I just, like, sacrifice myself then? But that one's also my emotions.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, whatever. Stop freaking out. Yeah, yeah. Stop screaming at them.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

And you'll still stop killing them. 17 million people.

[John Feidelberg]

But I thought that was very cool because they make what is, like, the bad guy. You almost sympathize with them for a minute.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And I. And that's kind of what you're saying with David Fincher, too, is, like, it's not really bad or good or bad, right or wrong. It's always. It's just gray area. It's just like. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

People with different beliefs. Yeah. You find a middle ground.

[John Feidelberg]

And. And pluribus means, like, we us.

[Bert Kreischer]

E. Pluribus unum is out of many, one.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. So I think that pluribus is like. Like the many, I think, is how it directly translates.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. And then pluribus, the eye is a one in the logo.

[John Feidelberg]

Cool.

[Bert Kreischer]

So they're definitely.

[John Feidelberg]

And. And the. The acting is just Ria se Horn, like, again, I always think to myself, put myself in these shoes, like, if this was happening in the world, like, what would I physically, mentally, emotionally be like? And what would I be doing? And she captures, like, the terror and the confused. She's just shaking, like, what the is this? Because I really think that the only thing I didn't like is when she meets up with the other people who have not been in the collective. They're like, not. They're not reacting. They're very kind of like, yeah, what's up?

[Bert Kreischer]

But I.

[John Feidelberg]

They. They did. I don't wanna. I don't want to get myself in trouble here, but it's like an Indian woman A Chinese guy. They're all from ethnicities and groups that I think are very, like, deferential and kind of like, don't.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

She's like the American who's kind of.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, what the is going on?

[John Feidelberg]

But I. I did think. I didn't notice that those other people.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think they are all from Eastern culture.

[John Feidelberg]

Eastern cultures which are in a. In a normal situation. I can see them being very, like, quiet and reserved.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

In these circumstances, I don't care what religion, what country. I think you would. Everyone would be like, like, what the is going on?

[Bert Kreischer]

But I guess in their case, they.

[John Feidelberg]

Were actually part of the collective because I was like, they're acting like this.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is all good, but their life is. Their family members are alive. Like, their wife didn't die. Girlfriend, I'm not sure what she was, but, like, their life is pretty unaffected.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, my son's still right here. My husband's right here. My. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

So you probably sort of like, if AI is, you know, just making things good for you, benefiting from it, you're utilizing it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, like, this sucks for you.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

My wife is dead.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, it's so good, though. It's so good.

[Bert Kreischer]

It really. I've already done it three times. Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know exactly what I mean. I'll probably just do, you know, like, one minute man type recaps. But I'm trying to think of, like, I would love to kind of come up with something unique content wise, because it's the first show that I'm like, this needs to be talked about. Like, I think we're gonna be beyond a discussion of just like, do you think he's dead or alive? Or, like, who's the good guy, the bad guy? This is like. Like, there's a lot to talk about here. You know, I would love to really dig into it.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think it's also weird how, like. And maybe. Maybe I'm really being a prisoner in the moment right now. But, like, there is a calendar to the entertainment industry. Like, all the good shows are coming out right now. Murdoz Task, this, like, it comes. They all come out.

[John Feidelberg]

It used to be like a for sure calendar, right. Like, summertime was like, there's nothing, but there still is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, but now it's like, the good stuff comes out at the end of the year. Happens in movies too. But, like, the good stuff is for the second half of the year, which is. I guess that makes sense. Where, you know, you do the blockbusters in the summer start of the year kind of sucks.

[John Feidelberg]

I also think it's based on, like, award schedules.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And like that. Like, if you, you know, you want to be qualified for this year, you got to come out. And I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think what it is, is I think to qualify for this year's. It's about to end. So shows want to be on the forefront of your mind.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Of voters.

[John Feidelberg]

The worst thing that can happen is you drop a banger, like the first month you're eligible for an Oscar, an Emmy, whatever. I think that's why they say gets there. You're like, oh, I thought that was like two years ago. What's going on?

[Bert Kreischer]

Dune 2. That's why Dune 2 did, did bad at the Oscars.

[John Feidelberg]

Cinderella man is the one for me. Cinderella man came out like December 4th or something like that. I think Cinderella Man's like the best sports movie of all time. I remember being like, this is gonna win every Oscar. I don't think it was the nominee. It was just forgotten about by the time it happened. So, yeah, there's, there's, there's some heaters right now. Murdoch is Murdoch Murders. Murder. That one's actually called Murder in the Family, I think.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't even know it's called Murdoch Murders, Murdoch Family. I forget.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Is it crazy?

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, that's my favorite show right now. I don't know.

[Bert Kreischer]

What's crazy too, is when you go to Hulu and you start Murder, Murdoch, Death in the Family.

[John Feidelberg]

And the documentary is called Murdoch Murders.

[Bert Kreischer]

But, like, when you go to the Hulu, I'm sure it's some algorithm based thing where like, like when I type out Murdoch, it's not even one of the top three results.

[John Feidelberg]

Don't get me started.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's insane.

[John Feidelberg]

I know.

[Bert Kreischer]

I've watched six episodes of this. This is clearly what I want to watch more of.

[John Feidelberg]

I know. I'm pretty positive this is. So you browse and see more and like, stay engaged, I would guess. Because right now I have like a rotation of like five shows and I'm talking about my. I have like a Samsung. I'm talking about, like the thing I have before I'm even into a streaming where you have all the choices.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

There's like a. Continue watching and it's just never the fucking things I was just watching because I think they want you to like, click on Hulu and then have, have to see, oh, what about this show? What about that? But yeah, you type in Murdoch, Murdoch and it's like, where is it? Why I Should hit M and it should pop up.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I also do that with stand up. When like a new special comes on Netflix and it's, I have to go look for it. I'm like, this should be the first thing I see.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. I know I watch every special special.

[Bert Kreischer]

It should be the first thing in the big picture.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

The moment like and maybe not for every special but like when Bill Burr drops, when Jordan Jensen drop, that should be on the top of my feet.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. I, I, there must be some logic of like we don't they stay on the app less by yeah. Giving it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Have you noticed that they're all asking that now. What when you try and leave the.

[John Feidelberg]

App, it says are you sure you want to leave? Yeah, they're trying to keep you there.

[Bert Kreischer]

Because, because that I guess kind of in an AI type sense, like that genuinely affects people, a lot of people and I've done it before. I, I've done it where I'm like, do I?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Nah, you're right. I'll stick around.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. Or you know, I want to keep watching.

[Bert Kreischer]

Once I caught myself doing it. Will never say yes. Now I'm like, no, AI will not tell me no. I have free will. And I did decide to leave this app.

[John Feidelberg]

My, my controller by the way. So I think it's a Samsung. I have four like hot buttons and it's like Netflix Prime, Disney, like Hulu maybe. I'm wondering if that is like do they, I'm sure they like pay for that. And so then I'm wondering within that when I have my like interface open, they're probably like, like, like there's a list of like apps and like Max is like I have to scroll to more and click on it. I wonder if like HBO didn't want.

[Bert Kreischer]

To pay and yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

All right.

[Bert Kreischer]

You the, the remote business definitely pay me because I, I used to have one that was like right now mine is Netflix Hulu Disney Apple. But I used to have one that was like Netflix Roku.

[John Feidelberg]

Roku. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like I think, I think it's Roku.

[John Feidelberg]

Roku is the app. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Or the remote you but that, that's.

[John Feidelberg]

A whole world that I don't like is not really talked about. And I bet that's why they're like let's make the search a little bit difficult for this reason.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like there's a reason for everything which is frustrating. Cuz like I, I, I, I used to always look at things like how no one even thought of this. They thought of it. They chose. They yeah right. But the what was it? I forget. What did you just say before I started talking. The, the.

[John Feidelberg]

You said the remote is definitely paid for. Maybe you're gonna talk about.

[Bert Kreischer]

I forget. I'm sorry, I. I think like, you.

[John Feidelberg]

Should be able to customize your. That that home page should just be like the last five things you've watched consistently. Like.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Nothing else. But yeah, they don't want that.

[John Feidelberg]

But if it were to be like intuitive, that's what it would be. It's like you've watched this every week on this day or you watch 10 episodes of this in a row. Like if you watch a one off movie that should like kind of fall to the side, but the things you do consistently should just be there right away.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know what's pretty funny is we're complaining about something that AI will probably just do.

[John Feidelberg]

I was going to say. So are you going to use it when AI fixes the problem, John? Are you going to stand your ground? We'll see.

[Bert Kreischer]

Tell me it's an algorithm that did it, not AI. I've accepted the algorithm. This is kind of what we were saying too about all the good shows coming out. Whatever show I'm currently watching, I'm like, that's winning all the Emmys.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, but that's a testament to, I think how good like TV is getting where I've, I've broken record saying a lot of the premieres of all these series. Like it might just be the premiere episode, but it's a banger.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And they like a lot of big time actors, producers, writers. Like tv. You know that golden era of TV when it was like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sopranos, all that. That one year were best actors, like the greatest.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Shows ever. I don't know if we're like there, but we're pretty close.

[Bert Kreischer]

There's a lot of the, the Murdoch, I guess support. No. Because supporting actor is probably gonna go to Tom Pelfrey.

[John Feidelberg]

But I think Paul should win something.

[Bert Kreischer]

Paul.

[John Feidelberg]

Paul is incredible.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think he's definitely gonna get nuts in episode six. That scene in the car.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

One of the better scenes I've seen in a long time.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like that was very emotional and I, I wasn't having a wheat fest, but I cried. You know what? He's just like, I'm sorry. I'm like, who hasn't been in that position where you're like. Like the world is crashing down on me because of things I did.

[John Feidelberg]

My fault.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he's just like, pun. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And I'M like, I've done that a million times. Just apologize to the world.

[John Feidelberg]

And you haven't. Didn't murder a bunch of people. I watched the scene the other day. Do you watch the morning show?

[Bert Kreischer]

No. I did like the first two seasons.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, I think most people did. And they kind of fell off. I stuck with it and it's definitely gotten silly and there's kind of like politics and all this, but I just find it interesting. I don't think it's, like, amazing. But there's a scene in the latest episode with Jennifer Aniston and Jeremy Irons plays her father. Oh. And it is. It was incredible. It was. It was basically just like a dad being like she never connected with her father and she. He finally like spits it out that her mother went into like a deep postpartum depression that she never came out of. And he was like, I loved my life with my wife. I didn't even want to have kids, but I wanted to make her happy. And like, you. You took my wife away from me. And then she is like, oh, my God. I. She has this epiphany. She's like, I've been trying my whole life to, like, win your approval. And I realize now that I. I could never. Nothing I could have done.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And it was. I was like, whoa. And so like, the morning show is kind of like, you know, whatever you feel about that show. But this was Jennifer Aniston and Jeremy Irons.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right, Right.

[John Feidelberg]

And so you could just watch that and not. You don't even know the rest of the show. And it was like, holy. It was awesome. So there, there's. I mean, TV. TV is great right now.

[Bert Kreischer]

TV's really good.

[John Feidelberg]

There's so much good. And then so much like silly fun, too. That's like, you know, if you want to dig in, you got something. If you want to just be entertained, you got something. But I think it's going to be.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like a Last Frontier is a good entertained one.

[John Feidelberg]

Perfect.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Silly nonsense, but like, this is wild.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's awesome. It is.

[John Feidelberg]

It's cool that Jason Clark's doing two at the same time. Like, you want to get some real, like, true crimes.

[Bert Kreischer]

And also was the star. Not the star, but the. He was also the. Just came out on Netflix. The Katherine Bigalow movie.

[John Feidelberg]

Captain Bigalow.

[Bert Kreischer]

Catherine Bigalow. The. She directed, like, the Hurt Locker. What's it called?

[John Feidelberg]

Even know Jason?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

What is it called?

[Bert Kreischer]

House of Dynamite.

[Jackie]

House of Dynamite.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, I didn't watch that.

[John Feidelberg]

Cuz everybody said it like, didn't end well.

[Bert Kreischer]

It. I, I can't in good conscience tell you to watch it. The first half hour is amazing.

[John Feidelberg]

So good. Yeah, that's what I've heard. And I might just give that a whirl just to see that.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's a good, like, Saturday afternoon.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, if you're doing other.

[John Feidelberg]

Really?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

None of you movie snobs like it?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

I was surprised. I, I thought it was great.

[Bert Kreischer]

I, I don't know. Frankenstein. That's my first Frankenstein. So maybe that the. I thought that was a good thing.

[John Feidelberg]

Because Ken Jack was like, it's been a story told a million times. Like, I kind of know it, but not really. I thought it was great.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's. I was excited to watch it because I didn't know it. And then I found it. I rewatched. I said this on the show. I rewatched Hurricane recently, the Denzel boxing movie, and it was just way more childish than I remembered. And Frankenstein kind of felt the same to me, where it was like, kind of like a Disney movie, but kind of.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I thought it was beautifully shot. I thought it was really well acted. I didn't really, I didn't like the writing of it, which, like, particularly at the end, like that final fight when Jacob Elordi's like, you're not. I'm not the monster. You're the monster.

[John Feidelberg]

A little on the nose.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. We watched the movie. Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Everybody's said, yeah, Frankenstein's not the monster. It's the guy who created the monster.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. Yeah. He had that line in the movie. Like, that's all I know about the movie.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And like, I don't know, having that be like, the big moment, I thought was, I.

[John Feidelberg]

What I thought was crazy. And I know it's just like a storytelling device, but to be. He's like, been shot or stabbed or whatever, leg missing, stuck in the Arctic on this boat, trapped in the ice, and you're like, let me go back to the beginning.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Let me tell you about my father. If you're actually in that setting, you'd be like, get to the what? Why is this monster trying to kill us?

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't care about your daddy issues. Let's go, dude.

[John Feidelberg]

And then he shows up and tells.

[Bert Kreischer]

His side of the story.

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, you're gonna kill him.

[Bert Kreischer]

What's going on?

[John Feidelberg]

I liked it, but I, I, I.

[Bert Kreischer]

It seems to me that the movie.

[John Feidelberg]

People here are anti it, so I wonder if you're really into movies. You don't like it. To me, as just, like, a viewer, I was like. It was good. It was too long, but I.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was long.

[John Feidelberg]

Two and a half. Two. Two hours, 40 minutes.

[Trevor Wallace]

Five.

[John Feidelberg]

Five. 240 is too long.

[Bert Kreischer]

The color. The colors, I thought were great. I thought, like, that tower was so cool.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, a lot of stuff was cool, but ultimately the story I just didn't really like. Which might just be. I don't really like Frankenstein.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. I also thought, as I was watching people saying how great of a job Jacob Elordi did. And at that point, he was not doing much, and I was like, what? But then when he. When he. I think when he be. When he's, like, fully evolved, I didn't really care for him, but I thought he did a good job of, like. Like, finding his words and moving.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. When he was fully evolved, that's when I kind of got out, too, because.

[John Feidelberg]

It'S like, now, are you human or non Human? But when he was like. And he just looked and, like, moving weird, I was like, that's some hard acting to, like, really figure out. I'm gonna hunch over. I'm gonna move this way. I'm gonna, like. You gotta almost act like an animal in a way. And it was like. I thought he did a good job.

[Bert Kreischer]

Of that one once he was fully evolved. I'm glad you said that, because, honestly, I was like, why is his makeup, like. It all looked different.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And I thought it was.

[John Feidelberg]

He had the hair and he was, like, wearing a jacket.

[Bert Kreischer]

You buy shoes now back in a duster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Right, right.

[Bert Kreischer]

But the. I didn't. I. I thought the makeup. I didn't. I didn't like it, really. I. I didn't. I just thought he looked like. I thought he looked like almost Avatar rather than.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Almost as a person is. He's like, yeah, he's six, five, and in Hollywood, you might as well be nine feet tall. You're just. But I. I also read a little bit. Bit before I watched it maybe that, like, Guillermo del Toro was like, this dude is unbelievable. He was like, I'm always the first on the set and the last out, and, like, nobody ever, like, matches me. And he was like, jacob Elordi is that dude. Really? And he had to do, like, a hundred hours of makeup, 10 hours a day. Yeah. Like, he. And he. He was like. He never complained, and he always was getting. You know, because I kind of think of him almost as his character from Euphoria, where he's, like, this, like, boy or whatever, and it's like, no, this man is probably like a classically trained actor. Incredible. So I thought that was cool, but it's long, but I, I, I would, I would watch it. I don't know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, it's not a, like, it's not a zero percent kind of deal. Like, but like, it was solid. I'll give it like a C plus, B minus, something like that.

[Trevor Wallace]

It was solid.

[John Feidelberg]

The. What is crazy, though, is that the, the wildest story of all. There's monsters and aliens and. And the craziest story is the Murdoch.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

What actually happened to that family in real life? So if you haven't watched that, go check it out.

[Bert Kreischer]

That one's great. I can't wait to go. I can't. I'm like, legitimately jacked up.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Weekly shows are my preference, but it's very good idea. It's very rare, though, that I will always make sure I watch it on drop night, you know?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I like to have the week in between, but I'll be like, is that a Monday show or a Wednesday show or Thursday show? Murdoch.

[Bert Kreischer]

I know if there wasn't.

[John Feidelberg]

I actually don't know what Pluribus is right now, but once I know I'm on it like that, that's. I will watch that when it drops.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think Apple TV just does Fridays.

[John Feidelberg]

Fridays. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

The. I honestly got. I would have watched Murdoch this morning if it was out. I. No, it was out. There was construction in my apartment this morning and I just had to get out of there. But, like, I, I had planned to watch it this morning.

[John Feidelberg]

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[Trevor Wallace]

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[John Feidelberg]

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[Bert Kreischer]

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[John Feidelberg]

What's that, about like a two and a quarter inch thick?

[Bert Kreischer]

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[Bert Kreischer]

What's up, dude?

[Trevor Wallace]

What's up?

[Bert Kreischer]

I can't stop saying it, man.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh. I mean, I know you guys already talked about it, but can we talk about it?

[John Feidelberg]

If it was up to me, we would talk. Hi, how you doing? I would talk about nothing but the Murdoch murders.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm only on. I just finished episode three.

[John Feidelberg]

Okay.

[Bert Kreischer]

Are you furious?

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm pissed. They even went to, like, Cancun or some shit. I'm like, let's talk about the murders. Fuck are you drinking daiquiri's for?

[Bert Kreischer]

I mean, are you furious? Like, you're pawpaw. Who Pawpaw. You're paw. You should have gotten that role, bro.

[John Feidelberg]

You should be. You should be.

[Trevor Wallace]

The fact that I didn't even get an audition for it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Not even like a callback. Not even like, hey, you're up for this kid who gets murdered or.

[Bert Kreischer]

Dude, I'm obsessed with the show. I watch it every day and like, literally, like, I've watched it.

[Trevor Wallace]

How many episodes are there?

[Bert Kreischer]

There are six episodes out now. I probably watched more each of them four times. You don't realize it's a.

[John Feidelberg]

It's actually a. It's a really good show.

[Trevor Wallace]

But I realized why they're milking it is because they can't do a season two.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right. Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Once family gets got, they can't be.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, let's do the prequel.

[John Feidelberg]

We'll flash back.

[Trevor Wallace]

They might, though.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Mr. Randolph, bro, before, he was an alcoholic.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

At this point, I'm obsessed with that family. Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You could do the Yellowstone version of The Murdoch.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

23. 1958.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh, wow. The family just.

[John Feidelberg]

It's so.

[Trevor Wallace]

So Southern, bro. It's just so, like.

[John Feidelberg]

It's a different world. I've always Said this about, like, the country is like, we're different countries. That's a different country. It's a different world from what I live in, man. That. That is. That. That's one of those things where it's like, fact is stranger than fiction. Like, the fact that. That all that is a mostly a true story is like, holy this family. Throw it.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh, my God.

[John Feidelberg]

That is such a.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's one kid left, right?

[Jackie]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

Buster.

[Trevor Wallace]

I think you gotta have him on the show. A couple caskets. I feel bad for, like, he should write. If he writes a book, he could at least tour high schools.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, dude.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, like, so much bad has happened. Let's get some good out of this. Like, write a book, do the tour, whatever. Make some money off this. Because, my God, I feel horrible for the wife. Oh, man.

[Bert Kreischer]

Can you tell me if I'm an idiot?

[John Feidelberg]

Let's just stop there. Definitively, yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I watch a show and I. Obviously the people are pieces of. I like, I get that, but they're not really, like, bad people. It's just like that boat accident was like the pebble in the shoe that made, like, everything else unravel. Cuz, like, look, the dad's a drug addict. That's unfortunate, but, like, he's not a bad guy.

[Trevor Wallace]

What was he popping? What was that? Painkillers?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, painkillers of some kind.

[John Feidelberg]

Right?

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, like, the brother cheated in college. Like, all of it isn't like the worst thing in the world. It's just all happening at the same time. The same time.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Right? Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, even, like. Look, I'm not defending the boating accident or anything like that by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not like some insane thing that never happens. Like, drunk kids. Pretty regularly.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And. And it's just like, damn. Like, that one bad night unraveled everything.

[John Feidelberg]

Have you. Have you ever had a really. I mean, this is extreme, but have you ever had a bad night? Something happened where all you want to do is just rewind time? Just like, I just. I just want to go back and make that not happen happen. Because I can't imagine how you feel about that.

[Trevor Wallace]

I slept with my buddy's ex girlfriend. Pretty recent. After they broke up. I mean, this was like back in high school.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

I just wish I could do best friends. It was on a futon. It lasted. I mean, it wasn't even worth it. You can count the pumps on a hand.

[Bert Kreischer]

It was not.

[Trevor Wallace]

I. I regret for each pump.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think that was because, like, I.

[Trevor Wallace]

Was such a good Friend with him. And then apparently not, you know, And I, I. It just like, I got a call the next day that was like, I'm gonna beat your ass.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

And I was like, I think you have the wrong phone number.

[Bert Kreischer]

Probably that.

[John Feidelberg]

What about you?

[Trevor Wallace]

Do you have one like that?

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, yeah, I got. I got a couple out there. But yeah, that. That moment of just like, I don't even know how you, like, go on with your life or something like that. Like, you killed somebody, You've ruined your family, Other people died, and it's just like, all you're gonna do is think about that moment for the rest of your life.

[Trevor Wallace]

Like, in the show. I mean, that's like the most extreme version of that. That especially because, like, he lived most of these tragedies is like, the guy dies and so.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Trevor Wallace]

Else. Which is like.

[John Feidelberg]

It's kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

But living through that.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. You know what? I didn't. Like, you mentioned going to Cancun, that, that they. That wasn't true. They went. They did have a family trip, but before everything happened.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh.

[John Feidelberg]

And they made it after the fact, which the story. They are already so detestable, and the story is so crazy. I don't think you needed to make it. You know what I mean?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, because I looked that up because.

[John Feidelberg]

I was like, I don't think you're allowed to travel like that when you're on bail. And. And it was like, yeah, that was like movie magic. They didn't actually do that. So then I started thinking, like, well.

[Bert Kreischer]

What else did they.

[Trevor Wallace]

Fighting the Australian part like, did that. Was he just. Were they just showing how much of an alcoholic he was?

[John Feidelberg]

I think so, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Wait, what was that?

[Trevor Wallace]

What part at the bar on the third episode, when they go to Cancun or wherever the hell, they start fighting the guy. He's like, fighting the Australian guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Punch me.

[Trevor Wallace]

Punch me.

[Bert Kreischer]

Let's get a shot.

[Trevor Wallace]

Let's get a shot. Punch me. I'm like, I think this guy's a fetish.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was waiting for that part. Like, I was waiting for that to become a bigger thing. Like. Like, that guy was an influencer in Australia. And like, everyone.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah, they kept filming it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, right.

[Trevor Wallace]

They're filming that.

[John Feidelberg]

You would think that maybe it was real. I don't know. I mean, it is one. I would believe almost anything that came out of the Murdoch family because it was that.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I think that is exactly why I was saying this kind of the other day. Like, that's why I like shows better than documentaries. Because, like, I'm. I'm more interested in, like, the story.

[John Feidelberg]

Story.

[Bert Kreischer]

I don't really need the facts. Like, I don't really care about the fact.

[John Feidelberg]

Don't ever let facts get in the.

[Bert Kreischer]

Way of a good story. Like, the story of it.

[Trevor Wallace]

This is the first show that's changed that opinion on. Because they usually like the documentaries. Because it's like you are, like, guessing along with the people in there. Like, oh, yeah, like, what was the.

[Bert Kreischer]

One with the mom?

[Trevor Wallace]

The angry mom? What was that? The texting one?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Perfect. Perfect Neighbor. Stranger.

[John Feidelberg]

No, it was the mom who, over the texting, harassing her own daughter. Or no.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yes. I made a video about it where I forget.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. Because she was in the document.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but.

[Trevor Wallace]

But, like.

[John Feidelberg]

Because I remember being like, I. I knew the story and I was like, oh, I thought it was the mom, but it can't be the mom because she's in the dock. And then she was in it, like, halfway through. But I thought, it's me, mother.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah. I knew that it was the mom going into it. Just because you heard about it. But, like, even then, you're, like, now you're watching her body language and seeing. Is she gonna. Is she holding it together? Is she not?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

So I like that version.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

But like, those docs, how they edit it. I mean, can we talk about the. In documentaries, the framing is crazy for no reason. They have, like, one straight on and then there's like a camera, like, low angle where they're trying to get. Like, they always get the slate shot when they're like, okay, sit down. So I'm going.

[John Feidelberg]

They sit.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

And they go. Like, someone on camera goes, okay, let's begin.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah. Like, do I talk into this mic?

[Bert Kreischer]

No, no, no, no, don't use that.

[Trevor Wallace]

But I always.

[John Feidelberg]

Is this my camera?

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

The gigantic.

[Trevor Wallace]

Doing that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's just funny how you can make anything seem like a documentary.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Anything feel like a drama. And you could edit this episode like that. You put a couple cameras, you sit totally.

[John Feidelberg]

The lighting.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's all about the music, too.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes, yes. You know what? I do like to. A lot of these docs feels like they're on a wave right now of, like, three episodes and you're done. Yeah. Because some of these things. I remember watching the staircase. Remember that one with the guy. The guy who, like.

[Trevor Wallace]

Was that about a pregnant woman?

[John Feidelberg]

No, she wasn't pregnant, but he, like, threw her down the stairs. And then he. He was previously married in Germany and had his other wife die by falling down the stairs. It was just like so clear. This guy threw his wife down the stairs and it was 10 episodes. And then Netflix bought it and they aired three more. So by the time I got to Netflix, it was 13 episodes.

[Trevor Wallace]

That's more stairs than they had.

[John Feidelberg]

And now it's like three episodes an hour each. You get the whole fucking thing. It's like bam.

[Trevor Wallace]

But it is smart because I feel like they always used to be one episode, it'd be like an hour 30. And it's just, just one. But knowing the brain and the consumer, they know that we're brain rot.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, they're like, keep going.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah, let's give it. They're going to make like a 20 part series and it's like 20 episodes and each episode's going like six minutes. So you can just binge. You almost feel like you're like on that Mario Kart gold star when you're like, get another one, get another one. So you almost feel like you're like just in it. I watched the whole Murdoch thing unravel on Tik Tok, like through different parts, right? And then my whole feed was about that fam. I mean, it's. It's such an insane case that like, like, who's going to be like, next? Let's see if this remotes cake or not.

[John Feidelberg]

If that doesn't like, intrigue you. It's like if the Murdoch family doesn't intrigue you, you. You.

[Bert Kreischer]

You don't have a pulse, man.

[John Feidelberg]

Or, or you've seen some crazy. If that doesn't move.

[Trevor Wallace]

I made a sketch about this a while ago and I just thought it was like so true. And it did whatever. But it was like Netflix hearing about like an awful tragedy. And it's like with every news headline now, like the Murdoch family case and the texting one with the mom, like they're. I mean, like, just watch any episode of Cops back and be like, can we get a phone? Can we get their agent on the phone? Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

It's all opportunity now.

[Bert Kreischer]

You can make it out of any way.

[John Feidelberg]

A pregnant woman died today.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, let's get her.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's already a Luigi movie, isn't there?

[Bert Kreischer]

Well, that's why I was thinking about that. Like, like Hulu's in particular, I think they use like a Dateline. So it seems like it's a Hulu thing, but it's like a 20. Whatever it is. Yeah, but the. They get things up so fast where I'm like, why didn't you tell us before? Like with the Diddy Thing it was like the day after Diddy. It was up last week.

[Trevor Wallace]

At least there's a writers room somewhere in New York for Charlie Kirk right now.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Trevor Wallace]

They're. They're on that stuff. But that's what it is. It's like America's almost desensitized to it because they're like, yeah, it's awful. It's awful. So how many episodes we thinking?

[Bert Kreischer]

Right?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, this one's really bad. It's probably eight, right?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My understanding of international news is what I think it is. Like we're getting more like everyone else.

[John Feidelberg]

They've already been this way.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think everyone else was. I think the same was like, if it bleeds, it leads. Like anything that is violent blood goes on the front page. And I think American news strayed from blood. And now I think we want our pound of flesh.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, the like kind of trope of girls who like true crime being a thing. Like girls recession, it's their hobby. And it's kind of gotten like a little cliche. But there's also some truth to it.

[Bert Kreischer]

It's like they love it and it's.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, but I mean, there part sometimes I'm like, it borders on those girls who like have crushes on the murderers and like write letters to them in jail and like there's something. Or how everyone thinks hot or whatever.

[Trevor Wallace]

Love after lockup or lock up after.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

That's crazy.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's good.

[Trevor Wallace]

I think, you know, sometimes people buy like really famous people's websites because they know it's gonna pop. I think. I think you just take the biggest celebrities and just make a murder doc like after them and just hope that they get murdered. We don't hope.

[Bert Kreischer]

We don't hope.

[Trevor Wallace]

But like, you know, if somebody out there has like a JV Vance like interview and they're like, make the story. Then the second it happens, if it does, I'm not saying I want it to. But then they're like, oh, man, what a shame. Upload to be today.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're. You're not wrong. I don't think. I don't know if you were 30 Rock Guy and this is an episode of 30 Rock. Yeah, they, they. It's not for murders. It's for natural disasters. And they want to be able to have the special first. So like De Niro's in being like, we're really sorry about that avalanche. We're really sorry about that hurricane.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, like, regular people joke around about like celebrity death pool, like, who's next. Yeah, there are producers who are like, we need to have the. The doc ready for this. 95 year old, like the day you kick know is coming like ages.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah. That's one thing you can kind of.

[Bert Kreischer]

But, but I'm sure, I'm sure it.

[John Feidelberg]

Goes, you know, it's like, okay, this guy parties a lot. Get ready. This guy, this guy, like, he's been caught with guns or his gang affiliated, like, get ready. I'm sure.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think probably end up wasting a lot of time though, because I'd have made a Rob Kardashian one for sure.

[John Feidelberg]

You know what?

[Bert Kreischer]

You know what?

[John Feidelberg]

Like, I, I feel like death would have been a nicer fate than Rock lived.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, dude, you know, I feel like it's.

[Trevor Wallace]

Get him on the phone.

[Bert Kreischer]

I feel like I would, no joke.

[John Feidelberg]

Would love to talk to that guy if he would give. If he would be like unfiltered and.

[Bert Kreischer]

And just be like, what was it.

[John Feidelberg]

Like growing up and all that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, I, I believe I'm correct in this. I think he got sent home from Kim and Kanye's wedding because he was too fast. Too fat.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, he was too.

[Trevor Wallace]

Not even being too drunk.

[John Feidelberg]

I think it was like, can I.

[Trevor Wallace]

Be my own plus one?

[Bert Kreischer]

No, like, also like, you've been seeing me. I'm your brother. You've been seeing me for months. Let me fly to Paris. No joke.

[John Feidelberg]

I think that's what it was. I think they were. I, you know, especially with Kanye, I feel like it was so, like, custom clothes and all that, and I don't think he fit.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, I really.

[John Feidelberg]

I feel like I might be making this up, but I feel like I heard that it was like, fat. We know it was because he was fat, but I think it was clothes related.

[Trevor Wallace]

And who sent him home? Like, Cameron. They're like, somebody go tell him. Oh, I probably kind of order him.

[Bert Kreischer]

If you're picking someone to deliver back bad news, you're picking Kanye. Yeah, like, you, dude, you go tell him. Yeah, like, he. And particularly I remember about that wedding, my favorite Kanye story is Kanye walked downstairs, he was already in his tux, and he found the bar at the reception to be pretty boring looking. So he got a saw, sawed it in half, got two, two by fours, nailed them to the bar and walked away and said, if anyone's done anything as culturally important as Yeezus this year, they can share their opinion on that.

[Trevor Wallace]

I mean, I'm holding that over everyone's. Yeah, I'm like a pregnant woman on a bus. I'm like, if anybody else thinks that.

[Bert Kreischer]

You can beat this.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm trying to be pregnant. Utilize that, man. You got nine months of being on top of the world. Awesome, dude. Look at me.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm magic.

[Trevor Wallace]

I didn't know that he. That he got sent home.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the saddest, like, stories.

[Bert Kreischer]

And then his sister's wedding for being too fat.

[John Feidelberg]

He had a minute with. He had. He had his own show at Black China.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And then. But then I. I mean, I feel like he's just gone off the grid. Like, I'm sure he's on, like, social media, but that's a guy who.

[Trevor Wallace]

I think.

[John Feidelberg]

I guess so, right?

[Jackie]

I guess.

[John Feidelberg]

I don't know how that works, though, because just, like, I mean, I would hope his family just takes care of him. Like, bam, here's a check.

[Trevor Wallace]

But, like, check if he's on cameo.

[Bert Kreischer]

If he's on cameo, that's how, you.

[Trevor Wallace]

Know, that's the sign if somebody has money or not. Second, somebody's on cameo.

[John Feidelberg]

The second I got money, I was all cameo. Like, there was a time I was paying divorce bills, and I was kids, and I was just like, I need some extra cash. And then as soon as I could got my Barcelona money, people were like, you know, can I do cameo? I was like, no, get out of here.

[Bert Kreischer]

Spit on you. Oh, yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's a great, like, commercial break in the career where you're like, I think we're good. And then you're like, oh, dry month.

[John Feidelberg]

Flip it back on.

[Trevor Wallace]

We're doing Christmas cameos, everybody.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, Father's Day's around.

[John Feidelberg]

It was like, you know, the.

[Bert Kreischer]

The.

[John Feidelberg]

The cycle of, like, I know Frank the Tank. Our guy here, I think, is the number one guy on cameo. I think it's like, him and Robbie Berger and, like, the Island Boys going back and forth. But fantasy season, fantasy drafts are like, I think. I think Frank makes, like, all of his salary in a year. Just announcing, you know, number one pick is Trevor.

[Bert Kreischer]

Number two pick is John. I got. I got my. I've only gotten one cameo in my life. I got my father a cameo for John Hannah, who was an offensive lineman for the Patriots back in the day, like, maybe in the 70s, 80s. Like, my name is John. My sister's name is Hannah. My dad was a big fan. I don't even know if that's why, but my dad's a big fan, and so I got him a John Hannah cameo for Father's Day. The greatest thing I've ever got.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh, because you probably didn't know what Cameo is. He probably thinks that you, like, texted him. I was like, how did you get this?

[Bert Kreischer]

Did you meet up with him? It's like, eight.

[Trevor Wallace]

You went back to Boston.

[John Feidelberg]

I was gonna say, not only is it great to give it to your father, but the guy doing it, it took it so seriously.

[Bert Kreischer]

Eight minutes long. He's on his ranch in, like, Montana or Wyoming. Got a cowboy hat on, eye patch.

[John Feidelberg]

Oh.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's like, Mr. Faberberg. I gotta call you that because your son didn't put your name. Because that's just what we are to our kids, aren't we? We're just dad. Wow. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Trevor Wallace]

How many guys have seen the Bruce Buffer one where it breaks up with the chick?

[John Feidelberg]

No, but the breakup cameos are great. Oh, yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Somebody paid Bruce Buffer to break up with.

[Bert Kreischer]

Bruce Buffer's taking checks to dump.

[Trevor Wallace]

This was a while ago. This was.

[John Feidelberg]

Let's get ready to.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's time to move on.

[Bert Kreischer]

No way.

[John Feidelberg]

It's.

[Trevor Wallace]

I don't know if you can pull that up, but it.

[John Feidelberg]

It's.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's one of the best. It's, like, one of the best. It's probably the best form of cameo if you just type in Bruce Buff.

[John Feidelberg]

There was a guy. There was another, like, actor who. Who made his bag. Mark McGrath. Yeah, it was the guy from Sugar Ray. Oh, yes. This is years ago. This is, like a. I think he's still doing it, though. But back in, like, 2020, he started. He was the breakup guy, really? So, like, Sugar Ray dumped, you know, which is.

[Bert Kreischer]

Wow. No, that's.

[John Feidelberg]

If you're gonna go Sugar Ray, it's. It's Fly. Not that song.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, but that's the better one. Fly's the bigger hit. That's the better song.

[John Feidelberg]

I see what you're doing, but it's not Fly. Is Fly for a reason.

[Trevor Wallace]

Which one's Fly? I'm thinking about that.

[John Feidelberg]

I just wanna fly. Oh, that's a good one, too.

[Trevor Wallace]

Who did Butter Fly?

[Bert Kreischer]

I should notice, because me. It's not Savage Garden.

[John Feidelberg]

No, no.

[Bert Kreischer]

Sound Garden. It might be Sound Garden.

[John Feidelberg]

No, I don't think it's either of them. Because I think. Dude, I know that's one. Because that song was, like, my sex song in high school, bro. I lost my virginity in high school. And afterwards. It's so funny. You brought. I'm bringing this up now.

[Bert Kreischer]

You didn't bring this up, but I.

[John Feidelberg]

Just had this thought the other day because it came. Came on the radio, and I was like. I remembered that Girl, we like the first time we had sex. First time I had sex. And then the song came on, like, right afterwards, so it was just, like, ingrained in my head. And then we kind of joked about it, and then it was played everywhere. So every time it was on, it was like, yo, let's go.

[Trevor Wallace]

Wow, she putting it on loop.

[Bert Kreischer]

Garbage.

[John Feidelberg]

White trash song.

[Trevor Wallace]

I thought you put it on.

[Bert Kreischer]

But come, my lady.

[Trevor Wallace]

I mean, it's in the works.

[Bert Kreischer]

It works. It's in the words.

[John Feidelberg]

It wasn't happening in reality, but in the song it was.

[Trevor Wallace]

Is that one of those songs that's like, the euphemism is like butterfly for vagina. Somehow it's kind of like how who let the dogs out? Is it about, like, ugly women?

[Bert Kreischer]

What's it about?

[Trevor Wallace]

Ugly women?

[John Feidelberg]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm saying, is that, like, one of those songs? There's, there's, there's a lot like. Chocolate Starfish by Limp Bizkit is about an asshole.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yes.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

I mean, I was like, 24 being like, huh?

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, you have no idea.

[Bert Kreischer]

Hot dog flavored water cum.

[Trevor Wallace]

Let's get chat. GBT on the phone.

[John Feidelberg]

We'll look that one up because I.

[Bert Kreischer]

Do not know what come. Tastes like.

[Trevor Wallace]

Three guys. Guys all lie. Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Salty water, I would guess.

[John Feidelberg]

This is a savage breakup.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's time.

[Bert Kreischer]

For Kay to move on. You can't even be mad that way.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, that's almost like a. I'd be like, y.

[Bert Kreischer]

Respect.

[John Feidelberg]

Be on your way. Best of luck.

[Bert Kreischer]

That's really good. I don't think I ever have a bad dunk bump. Like, like, none of them are good, but I don't think I've done one that's, like, outright disrespectful. That's pretty disrespectful.

[John Feidelberg]

That's bad. Sometimes I, I, that's almost got to be, like, he somewhat of a joke, right?

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, if you, if you actually break up with someone who, like, you were really dating for a decent amount of time, that way you are a Murdoch piece of.

[Bert Kreischer]

You belong with Alex Murdoch.

[Trevor Wallace]

Imagine you just get hit with a cameo. It's like, here's a link. And you're like, what is this? Especially if you're this lady, there's a good chance you have no idea who Bruce Buffer is.

[John Feidelberg]

Right? You're just like this man in a turquoise. Yeah, yeah. Tuxedo, silver fox.

[Trevor Wallace]

Breaking up with me. Did I get hacked by Russia?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[John Feidelberg]

Yo, so what's up with. What's up with you in general? I Was just seeing you had. You're at 5 million followers now, bro. Yeah, you were. You were always, like, real early on that social media, like, follower tip. But I was just thinking, like, is there part of you that thinks no matter what, you're not set? But, like, like, you're. You're always be able to get, like, ad deals, ad money, get some interest. Just that number alone. Right. Does that open a lot of doors, that level?

[Trevor Wallace]

Hopefully, yeah. I mean, it's. I would like to think so. Yeah. For me, it's always just been about, like, ticket sales.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. Cause it all just funnels back to that.

[Trevor Wallace]

So it's like, if I get a brand deal, I'm like, fuck, yeah, this is great. But for me, like, the. The only, like, gauge I have of, like, how these followers equate is like, oh, show's still selling. All right.

[John Feidelberg]

Grass.

[Trevor Wallace]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

And did you see a difference? Like, yeah. Easier or more or through social. Because I always wondered. It feels like a grind. Like, no matter what.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, like, three guys in the world who don't need to promote.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right, Right.

[Trevor Wallace]

The rest of us are like, you know, I was doing Good Morning America, whatever. It was this. What was it?

[Bert Kreischer]

Good day, New York. Trying to sell those extra tickets.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm doing the Beacon on Saturday, and it's like, you know, the. The whole bottom half is. The whole bottom is sold out, and the balcony is getting there. But that top, that third balcony, you know, that's one I'm really trying to push also.

[Bert Kreischer]

The Beacon's big. It is.

[John Feidelberg]

You can now sell a ticket at the top, and you're still doing. All right.

[Trevor Wallace]

I went there before this earlier, just did a quick promo, and, like, acoustically, I was like, oh, this will. Even if I don't sell another ticket, it'll still bang. It'll still be so much fun.

[John Feidelberg]

Absolutely. So.

[Trevor Wallace]

So the only way I can equate it is the ticket sales kind of.

[Bert Kreischer]

It feels like.

[Trevor Wallace]

Because you can really feel it, you know? Other than that, it's like when followers go up. I don't know if it's like, I feel like I get recognized more. Sure, maybe. But some cities is like, no one gives a fuck, so it really doesn't matter.

[Bert Kreischer]

But I remember my dad always. He always describes his job. He's an insurance salesman, and he always describes his job as. He's a professional beggar. He's like, I'm just begging the client to take a meeting, and then I beg the insurance company to. To make an offer that I Begged the client to take it. And I begged this to that. And I. He said that my whole life and it stuck with me. But I've started to realize every job, everybody just a beggar.

[John Feidelberg]

And that's why those three guys, that's the. That's Nirvana. Not. It's not the money. It's not like the fact that they just don't have to worry about that.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

But they did have those years where they did have to do.

[John Feidelberg]

Of course. But. But I'm saying, reaching the level of like, I just put this out and it sells out. I put this out. It does like a hundred thousand views in like an hour. Like, where you're just like, like not worried.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

That to me at least, because it just feels like no matter what you're doing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

You're like, please watch this. Please buy this, Please.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, we're all just begging for attention.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's times when I'm like, if I post too many days in a row, I'm like, am I annoying people? Am I like, well.

[John Feidelberg]

But then you realize, like, when we. We used to do our podcast tour, people would be like, oh, I didn't even know you were in town. And it's like, dude, I felt like I was spamming the. Out of you guys. And this person who said they're a hardcore fan didn't even know.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

I've had it before where I was telling somebody about some show in, like, Chicago a while back, and they lived in Chicago. They're like, I haven't seen you post one thing about it. I'm like, what? It's because the promo pieces generally don't do well.

[John Feidelberg]

Right, Right. So they don't hit the algorithm.

[Trevor Wallace]

But then all the shit you do post that does well isn't attached to a promo.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

So it's like you almost have to keep or find ways to like, integrate it in there.

[John Feidelberg]

Right, right, right.

[Trevor Wallace]

But yeah, I mean, last time I did New York at a town hall and that sold. So I was like, let's go bigger. And really the next step, I'm sure there's a middle ground is kind of the beacon. And I was like, fuck it, let's.

[John Feidelberg]

Then you're like, oh, I did it.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, that's the worst moment when you're like, let's do a big one. And you're like, now we're going to sell a big one's tickets. God.

[John Feidelberg]

Or you add a second show. Like, we used to do that a lot. And then our last tour. I use that term very l Loosely. But we were like, we're just doing one show, cuz. Cuz when you sell out one show, you're happy. You know, you're like, we, we succeeded. Then you add a second show and it only sells out half. And now you're like down in the dumpster.

[Trevor Wallace]

It almost makes.

[John Feidelberg]

Wait a minute.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, we were happy a second ago.

[Trevor Wallace]

You know, you never have enough. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I. I think it's a blessing and a curse because how to stay in just a town hall and sold that out again. I'd be like, oh, man, I wish it went bigger, you know? So, yeah, at least I have the experience to know, like, cool. If beacons like 3000 or whatever. It's like, I know my middle ground is between Town hall and Beacon.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's just certain cities, like Chicago, I can sell 3,000, but Milwaukee, I. I think I got like 800. So you're just.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

And all these guys, you talk to anybody, Joe Coy, Fluffy, any of those guys, they have these cities where they're like, like, I just can't sell.

[Bert Kreischer]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

But they can sell out like 10 nights in an arena in LA or Honolulu or whatever.

[Trevor Wallace]

Russell Peters will do like an entire city in Toronto. And then out here he's like, yeah, I'm doing the br. Improv half off tickets. And that's not the case. He sells crazy everywhere. But.

[John Feidelberg]

No, but it's a humbling world out there. Even. I. I was, I. I don't know who it was, but I saw some rapper on Instagram and he was saying he did one show for like a hundred grand and then another show was like six grand. And with all the costs associated, it was like, like he broke even, basically.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And he was like, I'm just trying to get my like art out there to the people. It was like, actually kind of honorable, but it was like, takes a lot to be like, I can make it over here and down here I'm, you know, I'm a star over here and down here I'm like an entry level, you know.

[Bert Kreischer]

I saw a clip the other day that was like heartbreaking but sweet. It was Louis Tomlin Lot Tomlinson, The One Direction guy.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he was talking about he was doing a show for like a thousand people, 800 people, something like that. That. And he was doing a One Direction song, Night Changes, I believe. And he was like, I look out of the crowd, he's like, I was just like tearing up because the song, like the lyrics of the song are like, look how fast the night changes. And he was thinking about, that's what.

[Trevor Wallace]

I lost my virginity.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's like, I was thinking about doing that show at Wembley, and now I'm doing it for 800 people kind of deal. And he's like, yeah, the night changes fast.

[Trevor Wallace]

And I was like, he was singing out of, like, a sadness.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, like, but not. The clip was at times, like, kind of inspirational because he was like, yeah, I'm happy to be doing it for them. But, like, just the night has changed. The night is not what it once was.

[Trevor Wallace]

So my version of this is doing the Beacon on Saturday, and then in like, 12 years, doing a looney looney bin in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on a Monday night.

[John Feidelberg]

That's a natural life cycle, bro.

[Bert Kreischer]

Buckle up, it's gonna happen. You know, I heard Louie talk about that once, and he actually had, like, the best act outlook on it. I thought where he was like, the mountaintop is not where you're supposed to stay. He's like, you don't get to the top of Everest and build a house.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's like, you get sick if you stay up there too long. You're supposed to get up there and then work your way back down. He's like, cuz otherwise it gets weird. And I was like, that actually makes a lot of sense. Otherwise, turn off pots. Stayed a little too long. Yeah, it is fun.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm a sucker for a good quote like that. I don't know. Like, my. So your for you page is one Direction a little bit, but, like, I'll get like, those random, like, alpha male clips, and I kind of like, I'm a sucker for them. I would never listen to an alpha male podcast, but I'll watch that.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, you know what I get a.

[Bert Kreischer]

Kick out of in small doses?

[Trevor Wallace]

You're like, yeah, it's like a little key bubble. Like, you're a man.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

And you're like, yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Have you seen those, like, the alpha male, like, camps or courses, dude, the instructors who, like, I want to make fun of, and they're like, you're a.

[Bert Kreischer]

Man, you're a lion, you're a savage.

[John Feidelberg]

And then are crying and hugging each other, and it probably cost like, 20 grand for a week or something.

[Trevor Wallace]

I saw one of those when they're on the beach and, like, throwing water and sand at them. If I were to do that camp, I would be like, can you guys not film this? Making me less of a man now that I'm in 4k being called a. My wife is watching this. Like, first of all, you can't make me come. And they're getting yelled at by another man.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, that, like, if.

[John Feidelberg]

If it's ironic that I feel like you. You want to be an alpha man. Signing up for a course in a camp to learn how to be an alpha man is the most not alpha man thing ever. It's like, step one, don't do this.

[Trevor Wallace]

I want to interview somebody after and be like, do you feel different after?

[John Feidelberg]

I'm sure, though, the people who sign.

[Trevor Wallace]

Up, every time they drive past the beach, they're like, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Got PTSD going, probably. People think they're soldiers. Like Iraq. He's like, no, Montecito.

[Trevor Wallace]

Isn't that funny? Just join the army. Yeah, yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Don't pay.

[John Feidelberg]

You get a Camaro and you're like a hero at the end. Now we just think you're a.

[Bert Kreischer]

On the Internet. Get a nice Ford Ranger and an ex wife. Like, come on, dude.

[Trevor Wallace]

But that is also funny. Why did you join the army? You want to fight for this country? Like, I just want to stop being a. Want my wife to love me.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, dude. The alpha male courses probably have seen a drop in army sales, right?

[John Feidelberg]

The army, that's like the number one, like, enemy of the army.

[Bert Kreischer]

I can join the army for the weekend. Never mind this straight up, buster blue man.

[John Feidelberg]

I have to go do army mother. I'm I for you, page. Recently, I've seen a lot of. To go back to the one Direction guy.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good.

[John Feidelberg]

The 98 degrees are just getting flamed on my for you page. Why?

[Trevor Wallace]

Because they're.

[John Feidelberg]

They're doing shows and they're like, 50.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And they were never exactly like the hot dance boy band anyway. They were, but they weren't like, you know, Timberlake was, like, dancing, and these guys were like, we're friends with Nick Lachey.

[Trevor Wallace]

Right.

[John Feidelberg]

But. And now they're like, like, 50, and they're just doing, like, kind of like doo woppy stuff, you know, and they, like, eventually just, like, spin around and. And the crowd's loving it, and they're having fun, but the Internet's always like, more like. More like, you know, 58 degrees and like that. And I'm always like.

[Bert Kreischer]

The people in the crowd are like. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

[John Feidelberg]

It's. It's like, you know, making fun of, like, old people playing bingo at the old folks house.

[Bert Kreischer]

This is what the olds want to do.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, the olds want to hear Nick Lachey and, like, you know, twirl around.

[Trevor Wallace]

But you see Backstreet boys selling out the sphere.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Multiple Multiple nights. And they see they know what they're making. There's definitely a group chat with, you know, or an email chat, these old fucks.

[Bert Kreischer]

But it's like, we got to get.

[Trevor Wallace]

The band back together.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, right. I mean, like, there's too much. Let us open up for you or something. Let's get.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's that moment where it's like you fall off and then a long enough time goes by where now you're nostalgic.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Trevor Wallace]

It's like, with so much clothing and like, Von Dutch. I just did.

[John Feidelberg]

Yep.

[Trevor Wallace]

So I filmed something before at a Rogue that's this really cool, like, vintage shop. And they were like, yeah, Affliction's making a comeback. I'm like, dude, if you're wearing affliction t shirt two years ago, you have lost custody. You have two DUIs, your ankle monitor is uncharged. But now it's like, it's this moment where it's. It's kind of like you said, like the Louis thing. You're at the top of the mountain, then you go down.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

It's time to go back up.

[Trevor Wallace]

And then all of a sudden, it's like. I remember when Champion got really big again. Walmart was like, selling champ. And now Champion went from, like, you know, maybe a 30 hoodie to, like 100 bucks.

[John Feidelberg]

And it's just doing collabs with people and all that sort of.

[Trevor Wallace]

And they're like, we're cool again.

[Bert Kreischer]

It really is like, like, like the proof positive. The only way to fail is to stop.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You keep going.

[John Feidelberg]

You're eventually like a veteran and then up again.

[Trevor Wallace]

Or.

[Jackie]

Or.

[John Feidelberg]

I mean, look what happened to four non blondes with that latest Tik Tok trend to the.

[Trevor Wallace]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Up.

[John Feidelberg]

You know that song?

[Bert Kreischer]

No.

[John Feidelberg]

So, like, that's the new trend on Tik Tok involves that song and, like, right back to the top of the charts. The. The Strangest things girl had that song pop up.

[Trevor Wallace]

Cranberries, Juice.

[Bert Kreischer]

The dude.

[Trevor Wallace]

The dude skating. What was that song?

[John Feidelberg]

Ocean Spray. It was. It was a Steven.

[Trevor Wallace]

Not that Fleetwood Mag was, like, doubting that they had any money at that point, but they were probably like, wait, hold on.

[John Feidelberg]

We're people popping again. Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

Same with the song Saltburn at the end. Where did the dance floor.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, dude, dance floor.

[John Feidelberg]

Still huge one.

[Trevor Wallace]

I think that was like, something years ago.

[Bert Kreischer]

That was. That was in 005. I was in high school, and we would go nice nuts to murder on a dance. Oh, you like. I knew that song before Saltburn. It was like. It Was my buddy's favorite song. We played that song all the time.

[Trevor Wallace]

But then there's that gap where it's a whole lot of nothing and then all of a sudden it's like the biggest movie and you're like, streams through the roof and.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. And you can't really force it to happen.

[Trevor Wallace]

No, not at all.

[John Feidelberg]

So you just gotta like cross your fingers that like they use my song in a sound or whatever and. But when it does happen, like go, go, go.

[Trevor Wallace]

Because they probably got the call from their agent or something like, hey, this movie wants to use it. And you're like, oh yeah, sure, yeah, it's a great check. Cool, that's awesome. And then they see what it does and they're like, holy. We didn't expect that. We just thought it was gonna be like a.

[John Feidelberg]

Right.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

And then you're maybe like, let's do a little show for like our die hard fans. And that works. Then all of a sudden like you're back out on the road or you know, who knows? It's just.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Possibilities are endless. I also think that there's something about nostalgia now where like, because the Internet is around and everything, nothing really like totally disappears. You know what I mean? Like, yes, because it's always still kind of floating around. There's always a chance that they'll enough.

[Trevor Wallace]

Of a like foot footprint out there.

[John Feidelberg]

Yes.

[Trevor Wallace]

There's still going to be remnants of that. My like YouTube stats show me all the time like what the biggest videos of the last 48 hours are a lot of times the most recent. And then sometimes it was like a video from two years ago. It's like overnight did a million views. You're like. And it's just for no rhyme or reason, it's just like, just starts popping up again.

[John Feidelberg]

Do you think you have like cracked the YouTube nut? Like do you, you, you like have a firm grasp on the algorithm and.

[Trevor Wallace]

Like I know what people want, it's.

[John Feidelberg]

Just, just.

[Trevor Wallace]

Do I want to do it.

[John Feidelberg]

When you say you know, what people want in general or what people want.

[Trevor Wallace]

From you in general. Yeah, I think it's a mixture of like, how can I put my own spin? Cuz the number one thing I like doing is sketches. But I also don't mind doing a lot of like unwritten or not unwritten, unscripted stuff that's just like kind of fun. Like, hey, let's all go stand. Like the Internet right now is the white background. The white Sykes. Yeah, that just like Michael and I, who I do the podcast with I've been pitching to him for so long. I'm like, dude, we. Let's, like, we'll play games on the pot. I'm like, I'm telling you, if we go out of the studio, we're just on the white background. We play same games. It's just like, for whatever reason, it just tricks the eye. People, like, see that background, though.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, YouTube, stop.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah, so I like stuff like that.

[John Feidelberg]

You guys. I was gonna bring this up. Yeah, it's interesting you did, because I think you guys do a very good job of, like, I watched you guys do the. Arranging the bottles. Yeah, like, we should do, like, that and we don't and. Or, like, say the same word at the same time game. Like, you guys are always on top of that. And I think that, like, keeps the register ring and, like, people just keep. Keep coming in for that.

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah, it's really just to remind people, because if. If you only watch podcast clips, then you stop watching the clips. Like, you almost kind of like, forget about the show sometimes. So if you do a game that reaches outside of the podcast clips and it hits the algorithm rhythm, there's people watching. They go like, one. I didn't know Trevor Michael had a podcast together. Sick. There's two, like, dude, I haven't listened in a while. Like, let me see what they're up to.

[John Feidelberg]

Right. It just kind of like gets you back in their front of mind.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Trevor Wallace]

And also, it's like, if we're gonna. I mean, we'll. We'll do two episodes in a day, so we're usually there for, like, you know, six hours or whatever. And then after lunch, I'm like, what's a quick game we can do? What's something fun?

[John Feidelberg]

It's like, if we're already there, and then that ends up doing, like, more numbers than your three hour podcast.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, why don't we even do this, Dude?

[Trevor Wallace]

Absolutely.

[John Feidelberg]

It's funny. We've never had Michael in here. We got to have him in now.

[Trevor Wallace]

He's great.

[John Feidelberg]

He's so funny. It's funny when you. I feel like this happens almost all the time. Like, you. If you meet podcasts, you usually just like, connect with one guy more so than the other. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like we're like Bert guys. Like, we're friends with Tom, but, like, we would go to Bert, and I'm sure there are people.

[Bert Kreischer]

Stephano more than Giannis, and I bet.

[John Feidelberg]

There are people who would go to you or me. And, you know, and I feel like we like, we were just with Trevor and never Michael. But he. He's a great guy.

[Trevor Wallace]

He's been doing it for so long that he kind of is like.

[John Feidelberg]

Like, he's wild. Like, when he's on stage, he's a nut.

[Trevor Wallace]

He's nuts. But in his head, he's like. He's like, I don't want to do the Hollywood. When my agent's like, do you want to do his PR stuff? He's like, no. He's like, super nice and loving and would have such a good conversation with you guys, but he's like, or would I rather just sit in my room the extra two hours and, like, crank out a clip that could do 10 million or whatever? So he's just like, I've done it all. I really just. He doesn't really do a whole lot of podcasts because we already do two a week, so he's. I get it. Yeah, you were.

[John Feidelberg]

You were one of our first answer the Internets, I think. Yeah, you were early on. That early on. I think at one point we were like. I think, did you film it at your own place?

[Trevor Wallace]

So I did one here, and then I filmed one back home where there was no laughter. And all the comments were like, bro, it's so unfunny.

[John Feidelberg]

And no one's laughing.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm like, there was.

[John Feidelberg]

It was good. I remember feeling bad about that. I think you're. We. We. We. Was that maybe during COVID or were you just traveling? Whatever it was.

[Trevor Wallace]

Am I doing?

[John Feidelberg]

We had. I had a thought at one point being like, we can just send these cards to people. Like, they don't have to come in. And I think you were one of, like, the only people that we did it with and quickly realized, like, it does. Doesn't translate. Thanks for being our guinea pig on that one.

[Trevor Wallace]

Needed a disclaimer, like, warning the boys weren't there for this.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. But, yeah, it is funny. Just a little banter and laughter in the background made, like, all.

[Bert Kreischer]

You realize.

[Trevor Wallace]

You guys make it. You know, it's like. Because a lot of the funny is almost in the riff. Like, if my answer is this, you say butterfly. That reminds me of, like, oh, is that the. That's kind of the riff is the funniest part.

[John Feidelberg]

What's funny with that, too, though? Is it. Well, or maybe we it up. I don't know. That kind of just ran its course. It felt like it just ran its course.

[Bert Kreischer]

I know. I think Co. Co. It was Co. Co's people stopped coming in, and then we just. We didn't use that channel for like six. Cuz they're, they're.

[John Feidelberg]

I think you're about to film one with them here and like they did like a girl one and then the.

[Trevor Wallace]

Idea of like, don't want to bring about bag.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, I mean, I would love to. I just.

[Bert Kreischer]

We tried a time or two and it just kind of didn't really what.

[John Feidelberg]

It almost needs to be like a focus. And also I think we would need to tweak it. Like we were the. We were like so early on that hypothetical train that like we were doing like bonkers, ridiculous ones. Yeah. When your peanut butter made a dick or jelly or you know, like things like that that are. Yeah, it was fun. You like doing them?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, yeah. I always, I always felt like, like really awkward and I felt like I was putting a guest on a spot whenever we asked them to do it. And it just like it never.

[John Feidelberg]

That's what I mean. I feel like if we made it like our thing because it was always just like, we'll end 15 minutes early and you can go do this, you know?

[Trevor Wallace]

Yeah.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah. And though. So sometimes it did feel rushed or like we didn't. There was always a couple questions where people would be like, oh, I, I like, I don't want to answer that one. And we'd be like, that's cool, that's fine. Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, I thought it was great.

[Trevor Wallace]

And it's also a great way to promote the episode.

[John Feidelberg]

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean when it was working, it was a big, big, big franchise. We sold the card game, we had an app, we did all that. But I do, when I see other iterations of it working now, I'm like, we should we just like do it again?

[Trevor Wallace]

Well, I think you could just, I mean, honestly, just like do it and like shoot a vertical and then just like each question is its own clip.

[John Feidelberg]

Well, that's the other thing. Like the clip culture now is so big that it would be even bigger.

[Trevor Wallace]

You know, I shoot big, like more long form stuff now and be like, how many? It's like I shoot for hour and a half and then on this white background I get 20 clips out of it. So it's like, how can I shoot less but get more while I'm touring? Then when I'm back, I'll, you know, do more thoughtful sketches and whatnot. But for now I'm like, I can shoot for an hour and a half and then just clip it out like crazy.

[John Feidelberg]

So. Well, it's working, brother. You're absolutely crushing it, dude.

[Trevor Wallace]

Thank you, man. Thank you.

[John Feidelberg]

And so you're at the Beacon.

[Trevor Wallace]

The Beacon. Saturday.

[John Feidelberg]

Saturday.

[Trevor Wallace]

I'm sure this. I don't know when this comes out.

[John Feidelberg]

But, yeah, we'll plug it up either way. So most likely now, right?

[Bert Kreischer]

Today.

[Trevor Wallace]

So tomorrow.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, it is Thursday now. Yeah, we'll promote on social, all that.

[John Feidelberg]

Sort of.

[Bert Kreischer]

But that'd be huge. Huge.

[John Feidelberg]

But, yeah, man, we appreciate you coming through, dude.

[Trevor Wallace]

Thank you for having me. Always great to see you guys.