Black Myth: Wukong Director Responds To Game Awards Loss - Kinda Funny Games Daily 12.16.24

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Kinda Funny Games Daily: Black Myth: Wukong Director Responds To Game Awards Loss

Episode: Black Myth: Wukong Director Responds To Game Awards Loss
Podcast: Kinda Funny Games Daily
Release Date: December 16, 2024
Hosts: Greg Miller, Tim Gettys, Barrett Courtney

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1. Black Myth: Wukong's Game Awards Snub

Overview:
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into the recent Game Awards, where Black Myth: Wukong experienced a notable snub. Despite its popularity and critical acclaim, the game failed to secure the coveted Game of the Year award, winning only Best Action and Players' Choice awards instead.

Key Discussion Points:

• Director's Reaction:
  Greg Miller highlights a statement from Fengji, the director of Black Myth: Wukong, who expressed his disappointment on Weibo. The machine-translated post conveyed gratitude for the awards but also confusion and dissatisfaction over missing out on Game of the Year.

  Greg Miller [14:47]:
  "In the end, it won Best Action and Players Vote, especially the player's voice, which is gratifying, but I must admit that there are disappointments and regrets."

• Cultural Context & Translation Issues:
  Tim Gettys discusses the potential misinterpretations arising from machine translations and cultural differences, emphasizing empathy towards the developers' feelings.

  Tim Gettys [16:00]:
  "I don't think that we need to be like calling people out for crying, calling people out for like being sad that their game didn't win."

• Community Reaction:
  Both hosts touch on the mixed reactions from the gaming community, with some mocking the snub while others show genuine support for the developers.

  Greg Miller [17:42]:
  "But even as it's written, I'm not getting the I'm fucking angry and everybody sucks thing from."

2. Superman Trailer Reaction and Upcoming Coverage

Overview:
The conversation shifts to the highly anticipated James Gunn-directed Superman trailer set to release on Thursday. The hosts express excitement and outline their plans to live-react to the trailer alongside their listeners.

Key Discussion Points:

• Trailer Anticipation:
  Greg shares his cautious optimism, noting the positive elements observed from behind-the-scenes screenshots and teaser snippets.

  Greg Miller [01:03]:
  "I'm cautiously optimistic. I am excited."

• Visual and Artistic Analysis:
  Tim praises the trailer's visual quality and the importance of making a strong first impression for the new DC Universe.

  Tim Gettys [02:07]:
  "This is the beginning of the DCU for all intents and purposes."

• Live Reaction Plans:
  Hosts announce a live reaction event scheduled for Thursday at 9:00 AM Pacific Time, encouraging listeners to join and participate actively.

  Greg Miller [10:00]:
  "We will react and watch it live for the first time at 9.00am."

3. Nintendo Switch 2 Leaks

Overview:
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing leaked information about the next-generation Nintendo Switch, often referred to as the Switch 2. Insights are drawn from reports by dbrand, Jay Peters, and Sean Hollister from The Verge.

Key Discussion Points:

• Design and Specifications:
  The leaked design suggests a larger and taller console with a new button configuration, including a mysterious second button beneath the home button.

  Greg Miller [24:11]:
  "Nintendo's spec sheet shows its previous handheld is 242 millimeters wide... Switch 2 should measure 270 millimeters wide."

• Improved Joy-Cons:
  The new Joy-Cons are expected to feature enhanced ergonomics and better trigger mechanisms, addressing past critiques of durability and comfort.

  Tim Gettys [24:11]:
  "Better triggers as well, which I think is going to go a long way for more modern games."

• Anticipated Release Timeline:
  While the exact release date remains uncertain, hosts speculate a reveal in January 2025 with a potential launch by mid-2025.

  Tim Gettys [27:22]:
  "All signs are pointing to January reveal. A couple months later, I think March more blowout event and then a May June release."

4. Capcom Reviving Dormant Franchises

Overview:
Capcom has announced plans to revive several dormant intellectual properties (IPs), including Onimusha and Okami. The hosts analyze the implications of these revivals and speculate on future projects.

Key Discussion Points:

• Onimusha Revival:
  Set to release in 2026, the new Onimusha title aims to rejuvenate the beloved franchise with modern enhancements.

  Tim Gettys [35:30]:
  "I rewatched that trailer like 15 times. I am beside myself that this game's actually coming out."

• Okami Sequel:
  Given the critical acclaim of the original, the Okami sequel is highly anticipated, with hosts expressing hope that it will meet or exceed expectations.

  Greg Miller [42:14]:
  "A sequel to Okami that is gorgeous in art and doing all this and music is going to do so much better now than it would have been back then."

• Future Projections:
  The conversation extends to other potential revivals like Mega Man, Dino Crisis, and various fighting games, highlighting Capcom's strategic positioning in the gaming market.

  Tim Gettys [44:03]:
  "I think Mega Man is next."

5. Helldivers 2 Update and Community Concerns

Overview:
The hosts discuss the latest update for Helldivers 2, focusing on the introduction of a new "FOMO" weapon, the stun baton, and the implications for the game's monetization model.

Key Discussion Points:

• New Weapon and Monetization:
  The stun baton is available for purchase with in-game credits, sparking concerns about potential pay-to-win dynamics.

  Greg Miller [46:06]:
  "This is the first time Arrowhead has sold a non armor item outside of a war bond."

• Community Response:
  Despite initial unease, Greg and Tim express confidence in Arrowhead's commitment to maintaining game integrity and addressing community feedback.

  Tim Gettys [46:16]:
  "Helldivers will course correct... they'll listen and pull it back."

• Gameplay Impact:
  Personal experiences with the new weapon are shared, emphasizing the balance between monetization and player experience.

  Greg Miller [46:54]:
  "I want to care about it, but... we'll see what Gary thinks."

6. Final Fantasy VII Remake Retrograde Update

Overview:
The episode covers the latest updates to Final Fantasy VII Remake Retrograde on PlayStation 5 and PC, introducing features aimed at enhancing gameplay efficiency.

Key Discussion Points:

• New Features:
  Head Start allows players to begin the game with boosted character levels, inventory, and maxed-out materia, while Fast Forward Event Scenes enable players to speed through cutscenes.

  Greg Miller [48:49]:
  "Features to make it faster to complete... head start is now available."

• Implications for Players:
  Hosts debate the balance between convenience and game immersion, praising the quality-of-life improvements while questioning their impact on the overall experience.

  Tim Gettys [49:46]:
  "It's a brilliant marketing thing... little bit weird from a gameplay perspective."

7. Community Engagement and Super Chats

Overview:
Throughout the episode, Greg, Tim, and Barrett interact with listeners through Super Chats, addressing a variety of questions and comments that range from game predictions to feature requests.

Notable Interactions:

• Samuel Higgins' Questions:
  Samuel inquires about the absence of a Tears of the Kingdom spoiler cast and the discontinuation of the Prediction Gamescast.

  Samuel Higgins [28:33]:
  "Is there a reason we never got a Tears of the Kingdom spoiler cast? And why did the switch to Prediction Gamescast never actually happen?"

• Keenan’s Comment on Protagonist Controversy:
  Keenan discusses the backlash against Capcom’s new protagonist in Marvel's Rival, comparing it to previous character introductions.

  Keenan [50:12]:
  "How about all the ridiculousness of people talking trash about Siri and the new protagonist in Intergalactic?"

• Fan Predictions for Classic Remakes:
  Fade into Gaming's query about the potential for remakes of classic games like Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, and Legend of Dragoon.

  Fade into Gaming [57:33]:
  "Does it pave the way for other games like Xenogears and Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon?"

8. Upcoming Events and Announcements

Overview:
The hosts wrap up the episode by highlighting upcoming events, including the live reaction to the Superman trailer, the 10th anniversary stream, and special giveaways.

Key Announcements:

• Superman Trailer Live Reaction:
  Scheduled for Thursday at 9:00 AM Pacific Time, the hosts invite listeners to join the live event.

  Greg Miller [10:42]:
  "It's gonna be the Superman movies... It's gonna be Supergirl. It's gonna be a bright burn."

• 10th Anniversary Stream:
  A special stream on January 3rd commemorating the podcast's decade-long run, featuring giveaways and exclusive content.

  Tim Gettys [54:10]:
  "We're gonna be giving away meta quests from our friends from Songbird."

• Member Benefits:
  Encouragement for listeners to support the podcast through memberships, unlocking benefits like ad-free shows and exclusive access to additional content.

  Greg Miller [different times]:
  "Pick up a Kind of Funny membership... get all of our shows ad free."

9. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with a humorous exchange between the hosts about future content possibilities, emphasizing their commitment to delivering engaging and diverse gaming content.

Greg Miller [53:13]:
"We're gonna have some fucking fun, all right?... because I'm sick of it."

Tim Gettys [54:07]:
"This year's insane. This week's about to be insane though."

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Notable Quotes:

• Greg Miller [01:03]:
  "I'm cautiously optimistic. I am excited."

• Tim Gettys [02:07]:
  "This is the beginning of the DCU for all intents and purposes."

• Greg Miller [14:47]:
  "In the end, it won Best Action and Players Vote, especially the player's voice, which is gratifying, but I must admit that there are disappointments and regrets."

• Tim Gettys [16:00]:
  "I don't think that we need to be like calling people out for crying, calling people out for like being sad that their game didn't win."

• Greg Miller [24:11]:
  "Based on dBrand's measurement, the next Switch... with some key differences from the Switch and Switch OLED."

• Tim Gettys [35:30]:
  "I rewatched that trailer like 15 times. I am beside myself that this game's actually coming out."

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Conclusion:

This episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily offers a comprehensive overview of significant events in the gaming world, from the surprising Game Awards snub faced by Black Myth: Wukong to exciting leaks about the Nintendo Switch 2 and Capcom's plans to revive beloved franchises. The hosts engage deeply with both the news and their community, providing insightful commentary and fostering an interactive environment for listeners. Additionally, the anticipation surrounding the new Superman trailer and upcoming events adds a layer of excitement, ensuring that listeners are well-informed and eagerly awaiting future content.

Transcript

[Greg Miller]

Today in the nerdy news you need to know about, was black myth Wukong snubbed at the Game Awards? We might have the Nintendo Switch 2 design and Capcom is reviving more old franchises. We'll have all this and more because this is Kinda Funny Games Daily. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Kinda Funny Games daily for Monday, December 16, 2024. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller, alongside Forbes 30 under 30, aka the second best baby blues, aka the verified one at Tim Gettys.

[Tim Gettys]

Let Tim host. How you doing, Greg?

[Greg Miller]

I'm good, Tim. How are you?

[Tim Gettys]

You're just good.

[Greg Miller]

We'll see.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Thursday is a lifetime away. It is all right.

[Tim Gettys]

Can this t. I'm feeling good going on. I see you shaking, but it's.

[Greg Miller]

I've been burned before.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Do I think I will be burned by Superman? The teaser trailer on Thursday at 6:00am we will live react at 9:00am I'm not getting everybody here at 6:00am Pacific Time. No. But I've been burned enough that I do want to just. I'm cautiously optimistic. I am excited. This poster, Chef's Kiss.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

The music, the little teaser and the symbol coming. The music going, Chef's Kiss.

[Tim Gettys]

Good stuff.

[Greg Miller]

You're nailing everything. So far, I have seen every behind the scenes screenshot video possible I could possibly. And I like what I'm seeing for this. James Gunn has never hurt me before. I feel good, but I'm not gonna jinx it. And then even. I mean, come on.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, come on. Look, it looks good. Yeah, look, look up. It's about as good as you get. I love that they dropped the legacy, keep it clean. Superman knew that. But now that we're seeing this, a James Gunn film, the DC Studios logo, this is the beginning. This is the one shot, the one opportunity, the first impression we're getting from this. What's important, look how good the suit.

[Greg Miller]

Looks on him, by the way too, because this has been another big thing back and forth and even I've thought of like, it's a little too suit Cody.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But like when they're doing this with, you know, after effects, you're making it a little bit more form fitting. It looks hot.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, man. I. The thing that we need to remember is that this is a very important first impression. This is the beginning of the DCU for all intents and purposes.

[Greg Miller]

Don't you insult creature comedian yet? Fuck no. I cannot at all get excited for this cartoon.

[Tim Gettys]

It's already like, it's happening though.

[Greg Miller]

I know.

[Tim Gettys]

Reviews, people.

[Greg Miller]

I Know, I know, I know. I don't care, all right? You've already shoved the Suicide Squad down my throat. D.C. in general, and. I know.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm sorry.

[Greg Miller]

I. I just am not excited about this cartoon about Bride of Frankenstein. Can we get to the fucking Superman movie?

[Tim Gettys]

So, now that we're here, though, the thing is, that's important to note. We don't get bad Superman movie teasers. In fact, we only get the best ones, right? Superman Returns teaser. Fucking banger. Man of Steel teaser.

[Greg Miller]

Come on.

[Tim Gettys]

Debatably. Best movie teaser of all time.

[Greg Miller]

Now you're saying teaser. You're tossing the trailers in there. Because there was the two, right? The Kevin Costner one and then the Crustle Crow one.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, yeah, but, like, come real quick.

[Greg Miller]

Everything you gotta. I'm going to watch Creature Commandos. Do not think I will not watch Creature Commandos. Everybody calm down. I. I downloaded him from my flight to la. Then there was a tsunami warning.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure who's gonna watch it.

[Greg Miller]

I have to. I mean, I want. I have to have a watch by Thursday. I don't want to. I don't want to be like, who's that? Or whatever. And you got. And then some more on the channel, you idiot. Plus, I saw this really cool idea that, like, there was a whole fan theory I saw on TikTok yesterday, of how in Creature Commandos, spoilers, they show that Cersei got arrested and that they're thinking that's how this guy was making the pitch. Like, that's how Superman the movie is going to open is that it's going to be Superman suiting up, like we saw in the image, to go fight the purple from Cersei's magic outside, and then he'll go, best her, and that's her getting arrested. That'd be pretty cool. She got arrested in Metropolis. We'll see.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Exciting times Thursday. We will be reacting to this. And I can't wait, because last time you reacted to a Batman teaser for the. Or Batman Superman teaser for the first time. That's a great teaser she got.

[Greg Miller]

Great, great trailer. That was a great trailer. You know what I mean?

[Tim Gettys]

No way it could have been bad.

[Greg Miller]

And I was right. Well, I mean, this is. We're back to a black. We're back to a black myth Wukong combat conversation. Right? No, it's just not great. You know, that's the thing. Everyone wants to operate in binaries. And it was. One of the people were like, batman v. Superman's worse than Greenland. And I'm like, y'all. Need to get your head checked. All right? That was even before I hopped universes. Maybe. Maybe it was a more metered take. In this universe, in my universe, everybody was just saying the dumbest shit possible.

[Tim Gettys]

I finished Defenders last night.

[Greg Miller]

Doomsday out there, huh?

[Tim Gettys]

I finished defenders last night.

[Greg Miller]

2024, huh? Just want to be Just want to be.

[Tim Gettys]

I've been trying to catch up. I haven't seen a lot of the. The. Any of the Netflix shows. So before Daredevil next year, I was like, I got to start doing this. Prepping for this. We started years ago. It's been a real slope.

[Greg Miller]

Sure. It's not at the top of the pile.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

So that means you haven't gotten to Daredevil season three three yet.

[Tim Gettys]

No, exactly. Which is what I'm excited for. We've seen Daredevil 1 2, Jessica Jones 1, Defenders. Overall, I would say up until Defenders, all of those were, at the very least, good. All of them bloated. Then we get to Luke Cage. We made it four episodes in, and it. That. It just brought us to a crawl. It was just so hard. We just forgot about it. You know what I mean? And eventually I was like, hey, we're too close.

[Greg Miller]

Did you get through the one guy dying?

[Tim Gettys]

No.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

No, no, no. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

That was when I was like, what? Like, I enjoy. I enjoyed that show. I enjoy Luke Cage. I had. I was. I was enjoying myself at the time.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And then that happened. I was like, why did we do this now? This. Now this whole season feels like we don't know we're doing.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. And then we get to Defenders, and, like, man, that show is so interesting. Not as bad as everybody made me think it was going to be.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Tim Gettys]

It very much is, I think, more than most things literal. Like, what if a comic book was a TV show? Like, they don't change the writing at all. It's like they're reading panels and it doesn't fully work. I kind of appreciate it for that reason, though. It was fun for me.

[Barrett Courtney]

Iron Fist level.

[Tim Gettys]

And that's not Iron Fist. Oh, I got introduced to this. Everyone is right. He is the absolute worst thing I've ever seen on screen. Every time he's on, I'm like, what. What are we doing? Show me Daredevil. We have Daredevil here.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, it's rough.

[Tim Gettys]

I like all of them so much more than him. But anyway. And Electra, my baby girl. But anyways, yeah, Defenders ended. It's over. I. I can't believe you lived through it. I lived through it. Yeah. Very excited for season three, though, of Daredevil.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

I also finished Real Housewives of Atlanta, finally. Fifteen seasons. Took us about two years.

[Greg Miller]

That's huge.

[Tim Gettys]

We can talk about video games now.

[Greg Miller]

Well, do you want to talk about this super chat from Ryan Povala Higgins that says Marvel Rival reviews have been coming in.

[Tim Gettys]

Fuck.

[Greg Miller]

We go to kind of funny.com KFLeague 2024 I think is what it is. Maybe. Maybe it's just KFleague. You'll see. Of course, I now have an 8 from Marvel Rivals. All right, I begged you last week to stop the steal, to let the votes be counted, let the review points be counted. I am now two back way. I'm looking at the rounded numbers, but two back. I'm just gonna say two points because it's easier for me to say. All right? And like, so I'm gonna click into Marvel Rivals right now. Thank you, Ryan, for keeping this honest. I would like Tim to have to bequeath the trophy back to me. We are gonna see. Oh, I did a thing, and it said block. That's where now we're gonna Open this. Has GameSpot gone yet? That's my big question. GameSpot has not gone yet.

[Tim Gettys]

Don't do it.

[Greg Miller]

All right? So if Tamor Hussein would just tell people to go do their jobs. Glad everyone at gamespot got to go to the Jeff Keighley's awards, get drunk off their asses and not do their jobs of reviewing video games. You know what I mean? Well, hey, it's still coming for you, all right? And don't you think for a second, don't you think for a second that on December 31st, when it's all said and done, I won't drive my ass to your house to get my trophy from you, all right? You better take the fucking trophy home with you so that I. I can come, because I don't. I don't want to just come get it here.

[Tim Gettys]

I get it.

[Greg Miller]

I want to just come get it from the SAD office. No one here. I want to come get it from. You have a photo thing. And then I want you and me to get in the car and we go to Josh Broadwell's house and we fucking tell him about it. All right?

[Tim Gettys]

Okay?

[Greg Miller]

You had the chance to do the right thing, Josh. You had the chance to do the right thing. Games Radar Plus. And instead you all sat on your keisters. And now the good people at sites like Game Rant, Kotaku, well, they're on Score. Dual Shockers they're doing God's work out there. Everyone. If you're working on a Marvel's Rival review, I urge you, stay in line. Keep writing it, keep writing it, score it and get it to Open Critic as soon as you can. If you have no idea what we're talking about, please go check out the Kind of Funny Games cast from Friday. For now, I'll remind you that this is Kind of Funny Games Daily, each and every weekday on a variety of platforms, we run you through the nerdy video game news need to know about if you like that. Of course you need to be part of the show. If you're watching live either on Twitch TV kindafunnygames or YouTube.com kindafunnygames you need to head to YouTube.com kindafunnygames and give us your super chats. Tell us your thoughts, your opinions, your questions about today's news so you can be part of the show. Of course, if you're watching later, maybe on YouTube.com kindafunnygames or listening on podcast services around the globe, remember that this couldn't happen without your support. Sure, you're listening, you're liking, you're subscribing. That's great. But why not go to Twitch TV kindafunngames and give us that free Amazon prime subscription subscription you have. They call it Prime Gaming. We'd love it if you linked it and gave it to us. It expires every 30 days, so you have to keep doing it. Maybe you're a YouTube person, maybe you're driving your UPS truck listing on podcast services. It would help us out if you did it, of course. What would be even more helpful though, is to pick up a Kind of Funny membership either on patreon.com kindafunny or YouTube.com kindafunnygames you can pick up the membership. Get all of our shows ad free. Get the ability to watch the afternoon podcast live as we record them. Get your daily dose of Me Greg Miller in a series I call Greg Way, where I talk while I drive my car for like 15 to 20 minutes each and every time.

[Tim Gettys]

Today one of your Greg Ways be like your your final predictions and thoughts for Superman.

[Greg Miller]

Sure. Should I do it on the way into work on Thursday?

[Tim Gettys]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Or will that be too late? I'll do it on Wednesday.

[Tim Gettys]

I like that.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you. Put on the counter right now for me or I will forget today's. The one is about my Superman movie memories though, so you're already there where I wax about on and on about Superman for quite some time. I digress. Remember, we're an 11 person small business all about live talk shows. Which means we have an important programming update for you on Thursday. Like I already said, it is Superman Day. James Gunn is delivering us the Superman trailer. We will react and watch it live for the first time at 9. 00am that will take the place of the day's games cast. So from 9 to 10, you're getting a screencast. Slash trailer reacts. Whatever entertainment content for. Kind of funny of us nerding out about this. I assume we're going to watch it a billion times.

[Tim Gettys]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Then you're going to quiz me on stuff. Then I'm going to. We're going to pull up articles from people who still haven't put up their Marvel rival reviews. But we'll look at what they're saying about it. So we see here's the Easter egg you missed. And in the back there was this shoe. And that was a. That was Turtle Boy reference. And you know all that stuff.

[Tim Gettys]

God, man, dc. James Gunn, please help us.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, you'll get a Turtle boy. I guarantee you get some Turtle Boy action in this thing. Do you think Jimmy Olsen, the Jimmy Olsen from Meet the Millers or whatever is that kid from. From the quarry? Until the movie comes out, I don't even know their names.

[Barrett Courtney]

Okay?

[Greg Miller]

But it's that actor.

[Barrett Courtney]

Okay, I believe you.

[Greg Miller]

Help me out. Chat.

[Tim Gettys]

We Meet the Millers, the movie with Jennifer Aniston and.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Oh, no, it's not that guy. It's not that guy.

[Tim Gettys]

Wait, no.

[Greg Miller]

Is it that guy?

[Tim Gettys]

No way.

[Barrett Courtney]

No, no, no.

[Greg Miller]

It's not Whip. It's not. It's not Skyler.

[Tim Gettys]

Skyler.

[Greg Miller]

Skyler from Righteous Gemstones from the Quarry.

[Barrett Courtney]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Barrett Courtney]

The guy from Meet the Millers.

[Greg Miller]

Yep, yep, yep. He's the guy who's Adam Warlock now. Yes.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You can.

[Tim Gettys]

You understand, huh? James gone.

[Greg Miller]

You understand my confusion. Of course, though. Just very kid features. Now you're. Now you're in a superhero flick. There you go. Nailed it. You know what I mean? That's how it's gonna be.

[Tim Gettys]

The Miller's was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

[Greg Miller]

Good one. That was a good one. I did like that movie. Anyways, like I said, 9:00am Superman trailer action. 10:00am Kind of funny. Games daily. 11:00am kind of funny. Happy Hour, our Patreon exclusive show where you can call in to talk to us and of course, watch it exclusively on Patreon. If you support the $25 level so consider picking up we're the Millers up the chat says what do we say Meet the Millers.

[Barrett Courtney]

I'm pretty sure it's meet the Millers chat doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Greg Miller]

You know what I mean? Today after kind of funny games daily you're going to get the games cast. It's Gary Whitta's Helldivers 2 review. Widow Wednesday himself will be here to talk to me, Snowbike, Mike and Joey about Helldivers which I've been playing Mike's been playing Joey used to play and then in the act and we're going to talk about path exile too as well because we all playing that the stream is going to be a Hope Miss 2024 holiday charity stream what are we playing Barrett? The mind the mind this game bless brought to Thanksgiving and I fucking loved it so here it is we're playing over here huh? The card game. Yeah, I am. If you're a member like I said you're going to get today's Greg way which I've already uploaded. Cool Greg. I forgot to slack you but it's uploaded. Thank you to our Patreon producers Delaney Twinning and Carl Jacobs. Today we're brought to you by heart. Electric still wakes the deep aura frames in Marvel Snap. But we'll tell you about it later. For now let's begin the show with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. Time for some new 5 items on the Roper Report. Baker's Dozen Binks 5 says I'd be more excited about Superman. It's already gone. But he was saying like so far Guardians and Suicide Squad haven't meshed for him. They haven't brought him in and I go the opposite way. Whereas if he can make me care about Guardians of the Galaxy, I can only imagine what he's gonna do with Superman.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I mean I. James Gunn has never let me down. Not a single time so far period.

[Greg Miller]

Do you watch Slither?

[Tim Gettys]

I did.

[Greg Miller]

Good.

[Tim Gettys]

I watched it for the first time like two years ago and I mean it's good for what it is. Like one of you know, first movie, whatever I thought yeah. From then on, like this guy got the stuff.

[Greg Miller]

Number one on the Roper report has nothing to do with James Gunn. Superman. Sadly Black Myth Wukong director reportedly expresses disappointment over game awards snub. This is the one, the only, the bald one. Jordan Midler VGC Black Myth Wukong director Fengji has posted a lengthy statement thanking fans for their support following the game awards and expressing disappointment that the Game Science action title didn't come away with the headline Game of the Year award. The hugely popular single player title won the action game and the community voted Players vote awards at the Game Awards, but it missed out on Game of the Year, which was won by Sony's Astrobot. In a post to the Chinese social media website Weibo, which has been machine translated, GE reportedly claims that he even wrote his acceptance speech for the Game Awards two years ago.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh God, that's calling your fucking shot right there.

[Greg Miller]

That's calling your fucking shot right there, the post reportedly reads. In the end, it won Best Action and Players Vote, especially the player's voice, which is gratifying, but I must admit that there are disappointments and regrets. The games nominated this year are all excellent, but I really don't understand the selection criteria for this year's Game of the Year. I came here for nothing from yesterday to now. I have also seen strong dissatisfaction, unwillingness and unhappiness in the comments of many players, most of them expressed in a humorous and deconstructive way, which is hilarious. The translation continues. I can fully understand this unwillingness to sympathize with this unhappiness because I know that behind these emotions it is not pain and malice, but self esteem and self confidence. What? It's unclear if the tone of the post is sarcastic or joking, as several phrases in the post are humorous in tone. However, following the Game Awards, it was claimed by former Sony Santa Monica writer Alana Pierce that an unnamed developer from Game Science was seen crying when Astrobot was announced as the winner of Game of the Year.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm be honest, I think it's weird that we're talking about this this way. Like I feel like this is one of those things where like there's, there is a world where it's easy to like make fun of people for being sore losers. But I think that what this is of just like going through translations, not understanding tone at all. Like them being Chinese developers and this being the biggest Chinese game we've ever seen. The way that it's being talked about, like I feel like this is one of those, like, hey, I know there's a lot of things that we've pointed at and been like, hey, they. They. We don't like the way they're doing those things. I don't think that we need to be like calling people out for crying, calling people out for like being sad that their game didn't win. Again, I don't think it's necessarily If. If what's being said here, not the best. Directly, these English words here, not the best way to handle this. But, like, I think that it's a little not cool. And, yeah, not cool.

[Greg Miller]

I'll go the opposite and say, fuck. No, I'm kidding. I'm with you. No, you know, of course we're reading through this. I'm reading for the first time. And so even the headline expresses disappointment over Game Awards snub. So here's where I am. I immediately deleted all the information from Game Awards, right. Other than Astrobot1. And I won Alana Pierce's Game of the Year thing yesterday because of it. I get here and I say snub. I'm like, oh, I didn't realize. I didn't. I wasn't even thinking that Black Myth wasn't nominated for a lot of stuff. And then you start reading, well, it won two awards and it was nominated for Game of the Year. And so then as I'm reading the statement from the director, I'm waiting for the turn where he gets really angry and talks about like, this is unjust and unfair. And I didn't get that at all from this either, which I agree with you. And I think it's very important to call out that this is machine translated. There's a lot of room for translation and where you're going with it. But even as it's written, I'm not getting the I'm fucking angry and everybody sucks thing from.

[Tim Gettys]

I think everybody sucks is, you know, the games nominated are all excellent, but I don't really understand the selection criteria for this year's Game of the Year. I came here for nothing. That kind of implies, hey, Astrobot is. It's a little kids game. It's just a 3D platformer. Again, I'm adding a lot of context.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, what you think?

[Tim Gettys]

What I think. But that is what I think. But even if that's the case, like, I don't know, clearly they've shown that they speak differently in these forums and stuff. Not necessarily always a good thing, but this is just a. A place we've been before that has gotten people into trouble. And I just look at this and like, every part about this that I've heard over the weekend, I'm like, looking at. I'm like, I just don't. I don't want to be a part of the people that are, like, laughing at this personally. Sure.

[Greg Miller]

I. I'm fine with that. You don't have to be part of that. You know what I mean?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. The more.

[Greg Miller]

Huh.

[Tim Gettys]

Surprised you don't want to make fun of people, Greg.

[Greg Miller]

I only want to make fun of the people who deserve it. All right. Like yourself.

[Tim Gettys]

All right, Very true.

[Greg Miller]

Remember when I got you yesterday? You got me, Adam. Oh my God. Just fucking killing out there, baby. Get out of here. Yeah, I don't know. This is a weird one. Like you said. I think there's so many translation things going through it and I. That I came here for nothing. Exclamation mark. Totally reads as a joke to me. But again, it's not in the native. I'm not in my native language or whatever, nor do I see it. Then to jump down to this, Alana, part of seeing somebody crying after that, I totally get that. Like, I don't, I think the, you know, one thing doesn't equate the other. Right. Doesn't. I think I totally get crying. If your game didn't win Game of the Year, you were up for game of the Year and you really wanted that. I probably would have cried if I didn't win trending Gamer of the Year. I would have been cool with it at the moment. You know, I mean, you're excited and it's an honor to be nominated and so on and so forth, but like, especially for if you really thought you were going to do it, if you really thought you were going to pull it off. Yeah, I understand that.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, it's, you know, passion. I get the sore loser thing and I get the like, hey, if you're gonna be. Play this game and be in the circus, you kind of gotta like show up and present yourself a certain way. I just feel like all that stuff is also, I don't know, I, I just, there's a lot of hypocrisy here. I feel from. I'm just some of the people I know talking about this. I'm just like, I've seen you talk another way about very similar things and I don't like it.

[Greg Miller]

Barrett, I didn't see anybody talk about this this weekend.

[Barrett Courtney]

I just, I, I, the one phrase a lot of people have said over the weekend is sore loser, which I just personally find funny because they did win two awards. So it's like more so sore winner in a way. I think the thing that, you know, I, I have a very specific opinion about this and I'm not going to get into that, but I think just looking at the reaction towards this, this weekend, I think between the crying at the award show. Yes. A lot of this can be interpreted maybe in a more sarcastic Tone, all of this stuff. We don't fully know what the inter. Intent behind some of these phrases were, but I think there's an underlying sentiment from the response which felt very like. And I don't know if this is what they meant by this, but it comes across as we made this game to get these awards. Unless. So we wanted to make this game. And I think that is what's kind of rubbing people the wrong way in the reaction. Again, like you guys have said machine translation, you know, text doesn't equate to intent and context and all that stuff. But I just kind of wanted to add that as well, at least in how it reads and how people took what people took away from it.

[Greg Miller]

This is a big thing this weekend. I totally miss this, you know. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

You know, Big thing.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Big Internet. Big Internet thing. All right. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I guess we've said all we can then on it of not our language. Don't know what's happening. I'm definitely not at all backed by. I've seen so many people calling out other things that are, oh, this is what's going on. And this what mind like the two. I saw somebody go by and say, like, oh, man, like, it was conceded to write your speech two years ago. Again, I feel like to me that I'm. I'm reading the black and white of this page knowing nothing about anything else or these people or yada, yada, yada. It smacks to me of like when Jim Carrey was 19 and wrote himself a million dollar check.

[Tim Gettys]

Right.

[Greg Miller]

Like, here's something to motivate me to go do it. Or I think it's so good that I'm. Or I'm so proud or I'm on the path to being so proud of it.

[Tim Gettys]

But yeah, again, I also do think that there is a cultural aspect to this, that there are problems too. Absolutely. And we have seen that play out. But this is such a big deal for a Chinese game to be recognized at the game Awards this way. I do think that to these developers, there's a different level of, oh, man. Like the game awards is the biggest thing possible. And whether or not it's pressure, it's just more like, hey, we're. We're on the world stage here, you know?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

So like, I. I said what I said.

[Greg Miller]

Tim said what he said, everybody. All right. He said what he said. Cool, Greg. We're gonna leave it at that. Thank you. Number two on the Roper Report, the Nintendo Switch 2 as described by dbrand. This is Jay Peters And Sean Hollister over at the Verge. Nintendo is inching ever closer to its promised deadline to reveal the Switch's successor before April 2025. But new leaks from case manufacturers appear to reveal exactly what the Nintendo's the Nintendo's next console could look like and a few notable upgrades it might have over the original Switch. We have images. Apparently we were inspired to write this article in the first place because of dbrand's just announced kill switch 2 case. The website for the product features an in motion render of the case and inside a mockup of hardware that has some key differences from the Switch and Switch oled. The new console appears to be larger and it has a mysterious new second button on the right Joy Con under the home button. Accessory leaks over the past several days have shown a similar potential design for the hardware. It seems dBrand is reasonably confident in the case, but we asked CEO Adam Ijaz to be sure. He says DBRAND has, quote, actual dimensions, end quote. Not an educated guest based on a 3D scan of the real hardware. When we asked how he knows that, Ijaz only said, quote, nice try. Nintendo not getting me.

[Tim Gettys]

Hey Barrett, can you do me a favor on the side?

[Greg Miller]

You're not getting me Devil.

[Tim Gettys]

There's all those articles. Can the second one. Can you slack me that? I need to read that later. HDMI 2.2.

[Greg Miller]

I saw Chris Oster Tag complain about this man. He was not happy about the 2.2 over the weekend. See, that was the news.

[Tim Gettys]

I saw this, this here, this, this Switch stuff, like, all right, this is it everybody. Like we've now seen this exact same shape and dimensioned successor to the Nintendo Switch multiple times from different leaks, different accessory creators. Like we know what we're looking at now. It's exciting.

[Greg Miller]

Based on dBrand's measurement, the next Switch, which we'll call the Switch 2, will both be larger and taller than Nintendo Switch OLED, but roughly the same thickness. Nintendo's spec sheet shows its previous handheld is 242 millimeters wide, 102 millimeters tall and 13.9 millimeters thick, where Ijazz says the Switch 2 should measure 270 millimeters wide, 116 millimeters tall and 14 millimeters thickness, with the console portion taking up 200 millimeters worth of that width. Ijaz says it's his understanding that Joy Cons are magnetically attached with an eject button that's on the back of the Joy Cons near the top. And his new case takes advantage of the detachable controllers he Says the controller portion of dbrand's case, which can detach with them inside. He doesn't know what the second square button is under the home button, which he says has a C printed on it. The left Joy Con is dbrand's in dbrand's mockup still has the button of the left Joy Con, which is where you'll find the capture button on the original Switch. So it's unclear if this C button now means capture or if both buttons work differently.

[Tim Gettys]

This GIF is fucking hilarious the longer it goes.

[Greg Miller]

While it's highly unusual for an accessory maker to publicly reveal this much about a product from a powerful, litigious company like Nintendo, it's not surprising that dbrand's the one stepping up to the plate. Having beef with console makers is an intentional part of its marketing strategy. And Nintendo is a frequent target. Like that Zelda skin that was the middle finger, Nintendo's lawyer, or the quote unquote, not animal crossing. 1. Much of what dbrand is showing and what IJAZ is saying lines up with a video from Switch up showing what it calls a Switch two mock up sent to them by a case manufacturer.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, this is one of those where there's smoke situations. I think this is exactly what the Switch 2 is going to end up looking like. And I'm here for it. Some of the cool things they were talking about the Joy Cons, it seems like because of the magnets, sounds like this tech is very impressive. And there's two buttons on the back to kind of release it, which I'm excited about. Because one of my bigger issues with the Nintendo Switch all the way up to the OLED is how loosey goosey. Thank you very much. The Joy Cons eventually get even when you get brand new Joy Cons. Just the rails on the Switch itself kind of just feels a little loose and like it for a handheld. I feel like there's a lot of like laying down, tweaking around, like to get comfortable. And it always feels like you're fighting against the machine. So I'm hoping that these magnets can kind of solve that. And in addition, that the bigger size I think is going to go a long way. Like the Joy Cons are serviceable for what they are, but I feel like just a little bit bigger and there's a little more a nice sweet spot to be able to like get the ergonomics right. And they're talking about better triggers as well, which I think is going to go a long way for more modern games, you know Having the Switch can be able to Switch. To be able to stand up there with the PlayStations and Xbox is again I think closer than we've seen since the PS2 generation with GameCube and Xbox. So I'm really excited for it.

[Greg Miller]

How much longer do I have to wait?

[Tim Gettys]

I mean at this point all signs are pointing to January reveal. A couple months later, I think March more blowout event and then a May June release.

[Greg Miller]

But do you think they'll reveal it during our 10th anniversary stream January 3rd?

[Tim Gettys]

I don't. On a Friday. I don't get asked them. We could ask them Mr. Nintendo. I don't know that we want that though. You know, unless they do it here.

[Greg Miller]

Well that's what I'm saying. Oh yeah, Part of our stream.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, we can start saying that it's gonna happen.

[Greg Miller]

We start saying it's possible.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, it's possible.

[Greg Miller]

It is possible. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm excited. What I'm also excited about is they're multiplying like gremlins.

[Tim Gettys]

Taki Udon, who is the guy that makes the OLED mods that I just did switch my Switch Lite mod that I just did, he was saying that if there is no OLED version of the Switch 2 that he's going to make it a priority to get right on that. Thank God.

[Greg Miller]

Wow, look at that.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm still holding out hope though that Nintendo's not going to happen.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo's going to fuck this up. Samuel super chats and says hey guys, two slightly off topic questions you Samuel, you asked him early but then the topic came to you so there you go. Number one, is there a reason we never got a Tears of the Kingdom spoiler cast? And number two, why did the switch to Prediction Gamescast never actually happen? All the love, Samuel.

[Tim Gettys]

Tears of the Kingdom spoiler cast was just tough because the Nintendo only gives us one code and then one of us plays through the game and then whoever else gets the Nintendo games, whenever they get it, they just usually buy it themselves at some point on their schedule. And then lining up all the people playing the game, beating the game, remembering what they played months ago to get a spoiler cast together. Very difficult.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. If we don't have multiple things for an embargo, it's tough to have everyone on the same page.

[Tim Gettys]

So that's the reason it's just simple scheduling and like how backed up that all gets. I will say though, Bear did an amazing.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, I was going to say we do have a Zelda Tears of the Kingdom spoiler Cast, it's just hidden in review. Zelda in review, where I review and ranked every major Zelda game and added Tears of the Kingdom to the ranking and did a whole hefty breakdown of the story and all that stuff. So if you want something fun like.

[Greg Miller]

That, I'm just telling you, don't wear hats. You look great in this. I mean, you don't look bad in a hat either. But I'm just saying, like, no, I.

[Barrett Courtney]

Mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull this back up. No, like, I needed to shave my.

[Greg Miller]

Look at this guy. I like.

[Barrett Courtney]

It was time.

[Tim Gettys]

It was this guy.

[Greg Miller]

What a cool stuff.

[Tim Gettys]

I also like this game. God, I think about Tears of the Kingdom all the time. And Barrett, I think about that video a lot too. You really crushed it. So if you're looking like actual good in depth kind of thinking about Tears of the Kingdom, Yeah, Barrett did a great job as a spoiler cast. So check out Zelda in review. And then in terms of the Switch thing, it really is just kind of we're in this nebulous like on the next onto the next. Like we thought it was going to be this year. I thought it was going to be this year. And now it kind of became clear it's not. So we're like, all right, cool, we can push back those predictions till. Till later. And also what happens A lot of kind of funny, including today. We have a plan for the week. And then James Gunn's like, hey, the Superman trailer comes out. So we need to kind of like juggle around some things. And we're always just trying to do whatever the best content is possible.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. If Nintendo's gonna give us more Runway for that, we'll take more Runway for it. And I think then again, what. What are your Switch 2 predictions? Makes a lot of sense. Two days before the Switch to we know it's happening. Right? Like, there you go. It'll happen eventually. Don't worry Nintendo fans. And don't you worry, ladies, gentlemen and enby kind of funny will be here for you as long as you keep supporting it. That's right. Of course you can give us $10 to get all of our shows ad free. Get the ability to watch live as we record the afternoon podcast. Like in review. We had to do Craven on Friday and of course get a daily dose of Me Greg way or like you want. We're talking about on Thursday after all the Superman stuff. Right. You can get the happy hour, which is a Patreon benefit as well. You can get you know the merch sent to you every month and all that jazz. There's a bunch of amazing things you can pick up over on patreon.com kindafunny or YouTube.com Kinda funny games, but I digress. Right now you're not using any of your membership benefits, so here's a word from our sponsors.

[Tim Gettys]

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[Greg Miller]

We're back with number three. Like the Dudley Boys, Capcom says it's working on reactivating other dormant IPs like Onimusha and Okami.

[Tim Gettys]

Can I stop you right there?

[Greg Miller]

I was going to say you sure should.

[Tim Gettys]

I just want to let you know that all weekend I got ony musha on the mind. I'm sure you did most weekends, but this one was different. This one had a sense of victory to it. I rewatched that trailer like, 15 times.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

I am beside myself that this game's actually coming out.

[Greg Miller]

How quickly did you show to Gia?

[Tim Gettys]

Immediately.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Immediately. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Did she feign interest?

[Tim Gettys]

No.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

No, no.

[Greg Miller]

Because she's heard about Onimusha long.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, yeah. She's heard me talking and talking. But yeah, she's just like. She's like, Tim. Like, you are such a. Such a Tim. And I'm like, I know. I very much am. But, yeah, it's. It's wild that this is happening. It ending with the 2026. I like that. Like, I. I feel like that gives me hope that we're actually going to see it in 2026. You know, all that shot out there. Capcom's been so good.

[Greg Miller]

I heard they already wrote their acceptance speech.

[Tim Gettys]

Exactly. God, if Onimusha gets nominated for Game.

[Greg Miller]

Of the Year, if it's that good.

[Tim Gettys]

And it looks good, Greg, it looks really good. But. And Okami. Oh, my God. Okami.

[Greg Miller]

We go to Jordan Miller's reporting over at vgc. Capcom has said it's working on, quote, unquote, reactivating dormant IPs following the announcements of Onimusha and Okami sequels this week. On Thursday, the Japanese developer giant development giant announced that it is developing a new entry in the Onimusha franchise, the first in several years. The game, which is set to release in 2026, will be a new entry in one of the many Capcom franchises that fans have requested new games from for some time now. Capcom has said that it's working on bringing more legacy franchises back in modern forms. In addition to regularly releasing major new titles each year, Capcom is focusing on reactivating dormant IPs that haven't had a new title launch recently. A statement on the company's investor relations site says the company is working to further enhance corporate value by leveraging its rich library of content, which includes reviving past IPs like the two titles announced above, in order to continuously produce highly efficient, high quality titles. End quote.

[Tim Gettys]

What a concept. What a wild concept for a developer out there to say. In addition to regularly releasing major new titles, Capcom's also focusing on reactivating dormant IPs. It's like, yeah, let's do that, but let's only do that when we're in the place to do it correctly. And Capcom are there. They have.

[Greg Miller]

They've learned so much from Resident Evil.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. I mean, even devil may cry 5 coming back and being as good as it was and selling well. Right. Like not breaking the records and stuff. Like Resident Evil did. Like M. Like Monster Hunter did. There's. Capcom is in the best spot it's ever been. And it now can go back and kind of pull out some things that have value to them that we haven't seen in a while. On Emusha, Dino Crisis. Mega Man.

[Greg Miller]

Mega Man. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

He's gonna come.

[Greg Miller]

You have to. I mean. So right now, what do you think is number one on deck? We've got this down. What is the one that has to get is the next that has to get made?

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, the fact that we got Animusha and Okami. Yeah. Though that's two of them. Holy crap.

[Greg Miller]

Like, let's just be real.

[Tim Gettys]

Like, I want to have a conversation here because I don't want to sound more delusional than I actually.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, sure.

[Tim Gettys]

Like, I understand Animusha's place in the hierarchy of all this. Like, I am not saying that animation's universe has shifted. Okami, though, was a little bit different. Like there was a critical acclaim to Okami that Okami is like one of the. One of the greats, you know. Animusha, I think was way more a place in time of the back. It's a. A bygone era where you get four games, a console generation, these sequels, what almost feels annualized. And Onimusha very much in the like. When you look at animusha, even just one through three, but you could also include four on that PS2. The games are so radically different. And you see them kind of expand from one, which is very much just a small Resident Evil PS1 game. Right?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Same exact style of survival horror. Same exact control, same exact puzzles. Like, very, very similar. Then two expands that a bit. Three completely opens up and plays a lot more similarly to Devil May Cry. Like way more action focused, analog comp controls. And then four is a full on analog action game. Like, I feel like that franchise has evolved so much already. And all of the games very, very good to great. But I don't think any of them were like as clearly. None of them were as good as Resident Evil 4, for example. Right. But I think. And even getting the remaster of one a couple years ago, it really kind of showed what Animusha 1 was, which was a very early PS2 game, if I remember correctly. It was one of The Blue Bottom PS2 games. It was a CD.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Very short. It's like four and a half hours to beat. And so they there's a lot of room to grow. And playing that in like 2019 when it re released, I was kind of like, I love audio but like, I don't know about this. Seeing this trailer obviously makes me feel very differently. But like knowing what the RE engine has done, seeing the re 2, 3, 4 remakes, seeing what the RE engine could do for devil may cry 5, I have so much more hope there. Okami, I feel like is the tougher one because that game is going to be compared to Okami.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Holy shit.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. What do you think? And this is going to sound crazy. Do you think for Okami there's a lot of people who is Okami more a myth at this point? I feel like we always get in this thing where we grew up. Slash was working at IGN when Okami is like popping off. Right. So it's like I remember Okami and I remember the DS one where you're the puppy. But it's like I feel like current gamers have they gone back and played Okami and I know there's been RE releases in this and the other.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, I think that that's a difficult question to answer because I think the answer is yes and no. I don't think that every single gamer ever is, but I do think that there is a. A big audience out there of people that are interested in video games past. Just like I play what I like, but the ones that want to dive deeper and look back in the history and be like, hey, I really do like Legend of Zelda. My first one was Breath of the Wild. I went back and I played some of the other games. What are other games like this? If you type in best games like Zelda, Okami is going to come up.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

And they've done a good job, I think, of putting it out on different platforms and keeping up with it since its original release. So I do think that there's a knowledge of Okami and when Jeff presents it like it's the second coming of Jesus, I think that that also is going to add a lot more interest. That's good though, you know. Yeah, of course, of course. That is something I do not want to to undersell is that Jeff positioned Okami 2 as the big deal that I wish that they that it would be to people, you know, And I feel like that's what shifts this. But yeah, Okami is definitely not the biggest franchise.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Tim Gettys]

You know.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, no, I mean, I'm sure. I want to make sure when we're talking about this. Right. Like I think it's an interesting starting point. It's something that obviously people excited. It was a great game awards announcement. It's going to be beautiful. Games are in a different place even than they were with the original Okami. Right. Where I think a sequel to Okami that is gorgeous in art and doing all this and music is going to do so much better now than it would have been back then.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, like, that is actually the crazy biggest question here because you look at what Okami was emulating back in the day or paying homage to, it was Ocarina of Time, right. This was a game coming out around Twilight Princess after Wind Waker. Like it very much was in that vibe and style of a traditional Zelda 3D with dungeons. Then Breath of the Wild change, the Zelda game. Is Okami going to follow that too? Or is Okami going to kind of fill the gap that we've had for classics, for classic 3D dungeon style games, which would be. I. I mean, I think that's the move and I think Capcom knows that's the move.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Capcom Smart M Night Shama Mama super chats just like you can to be part of the show and says, do you think we could ever get a Mega man like Metroid Prime?

[Tim Gettys]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

What is Mega Man? What are they actually going to do when they finally say we're reinvigorating Mega man and bringing him out? What is it going to be?

[Tim Gettys]

I. I think. I think that it. It needs to be something like that. I think that Mega Man. Well, we just saw this onimusha trailer compared to what the Animusha games used to be. I feel like that's what we need for Mega man. Because if they just come out and it's Mega Man 12 or they come out and it's a Mega man that, you know, like has like old school trappings that's gonna be very exciting to a lot of people. And I would rather that than not that we've just had so much of that that I think that it's time for Mega man to have a. A bigger moment of like, oh, Mega man is an IP that Capcom's gonna look at as one of the heavy hitters.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

And they can. It's Mega man, one of the most known video game ips, period. Whether you've played one ever or not. Sure.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Do you think he's next?

[Tim Gettys]

I think he's next.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah, he's got to be next.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. I think Dino Crisis is an easy one too. To People love dinosaurs out there. Because people love dinosaurs. And I just think that the style of games like Resident Evil, Lonnie Musha, Dino Crisis, like they, they got that it down, they're working on all those. So I, I think Dino Crisis will come eventually, but I think Mega man is definitely the priority. There's also a ton of fighting games. I think that's a an important thing to point out too. Like if they want more IP to go back to Marvel versus Capcom, you know, if not that, Dark Stalkers, if not that any of the many, many, many fighting games that Capcom has access to for sequels. They've already done a great job in the last year and going forward of bringing back the classics like just in like porting them over. But new fighting games I think is the next step.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, let's move on to number four on the Roper Report. Thursday's surprise Helldivers 2 update also added its first FOMO weapon. This is Morgan park at PC Gamer. My feelings on Helldivers two omens of tyranny update can so far be described in bursts of quote oh this car is awesome and quote are you kidding me? The illuminate are incredible. But There is also one surprise waiting for me in Helldivers 2 this morning that I wasn't happy to see. Arrowhead isn't just selling armor in the store tab anymore, but weapons too. Well, one weapon for now, the stun baton, one of two melee options new to the shooter, can only be unlocked by purchasing it directly from the superstore for 200 super credits. Unless I've been living under a rock, this is the first time Arrowhead has sold a non armor item outside of a war bond. Helldivers 2's battle pass like progression system. I'm uneasy about the precedent this sets for future for the future of the game. Of course the article goes on and stuff, but they're talking about that slow tip, the slippery slope of pay to win or whatever. Tim, do you worry? Do you care?

[Tim Gettys]

I mean yeah, but I think that Hell Divers will course correct. Like I think that they've shown that they listen to the community and that if things if they go a little too far pushing the line, they'll listen and pull it back.

[Greg Miller]

Golden Spider is saying six True. That's not true. It's in the War Bond too. I. Well maybe he said. Did he say only? He might have said only but I think it's the idea that you'd have to unlock it in the war Bond as you got whereas this is an instant unlock, let alone the fact that he talks about the stun baton, one of two melee options new to the shooter. So is it the same? And I don't know. I know that it's there, but I don't know if it's the same baton as the one in the Warmth. But I digress. Just talking in there.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, staff is in the war Bond baton is in the store. They're different weapons. Thank you.

[Tim Gettys]

This doesn't sound great for the ethos of Helldivers, but I think that they'll, on the ethos of Helldivers, fix it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, that's my thing about it too, where it's like, I played this weekend. We played, of course, after the Game Awards. I fucking love Hell Divers. I love this update. I'm having so much fun. I'm excited to talk to Gary about it, who I'm sure has put another 500 hours somehow this weekend into it. Yeah, like Helldivers in Arrowhead. Arrowhead, I should say, actually is so committed to Hell Divers that if this was an oversight that's overstepping their bounds, I think they'd fix it and go back. But again, if it's just a different version or whatever. I also hated the. I didn't. The batons are cute, but when I was playing with them, they, you know, you're surrounded by the zombie illuminate. I'm hitting them all and I'm just getting killed anyway, so it's like, I don't know if it's worth it or what, how to go. And also, of course, it's PvP. So I'm sorry, PvE. So do we really care this, that the other. There's a million different things to it. I just think the, you know, war bonds are still cool, still unlocking a bunch of stuff, having fun out there. It doesn't affect my gameplay. I want to care about it, but. Yeah, but we'll see what Gary thinks when he comes on the Gamescast. Review it right after this sounds like a big deal, Tim. Having the writer of the Book of Eli in the office is a huge deal. But I'm sick of the big news. If I wanted something smaller, say the tiniest news I needed to know about, where would I go?

[Tim Gettys]

You go to our last story, the Wii News Channel, where we cover all the small news items that you need to know about.

[Greg Miller]

Number five, the Wii News from Genki Japan, Final Fantasy VII remake retrograde on PlayStation 5 and PC, has been updated with features to make it faster to complete. These include Head Start, is now available from the new Game menu Start the game with the character level and inventory already powered up. Characters start at level 45 with equivalent SP, a number of materia at max level, and items useful to your adventure. Gear and accessories usually available towards the middle to the end of the story. 50,000 Gil and fast forward event scenes. This will allow you to watch the scene without skipping over it at 1.5 or 2.0 times speed.

[Tim Gettys]

This is worth talking about. And I don't know where exactly is the best place to do it, and maybe right here right now is. But I think that this is interesting in some ways where it's like, okay, well, are you just saying that the game's not worth playing at normal speed and you're just like. Allow you to skip all the stuff? Like, what's the point of the game then? Yeah, but the other side is like, this is very brilliant for the part one, where Part two is about to be released on PC in the coming months. Right. To give people the opportunity to catch up. Especially when we're talking about games that are as big and long as Final Fantasy 7, the remake series. So getting people prepped for rebirth. I think this is kind of a great call and a lot of really cool features that remind me a lot of old games being ported over with the Fast Forward features or save states or just like, you know, quality of life stuff. Of just being like, hey, we know y'all don't have hella time, but jump in. I think it's. I think that this is a brilliant marketing thing. A little weird from a gameplay perspective.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. I think it's. I think options are always great. I think the fact that the games already existed and you could go do it and whatever. If this has been what's been stopping you, it's a nice thing to toss in there. Right? And again, you got to get people up to speed to jump into the next one. That's. Go for it. Elden Ring has shipped over 28.6 million copies worldwide. A lot of copies to him.

[Tim Gettys]

That is honestly Incredibly impressive.

[Greg Miller]

Indeed. CD Projekt Red has confirmed that CR Berkeley replaced Joe Wyatt as Siri in the Witcher 4. Of course, that was stuff I saw getting clipped around all over it. We have a super chat from Keenan who says, how about all the ridiculousness of people talking trash about Siri and the new protagonist in Intergalactic? It's not like people complain about Alex and Ellie, Lara, Samus or Aloy. I just don't get it. Keenan. There's a lot of money to be made by farming outrage. And so people like to farm outrage as if there's never been a playable female protagonist before. And that, that is something that you need to get mad about. So don't give it oxygen and it'll go away because those people have to go find something else to farm outrage about. In your final piece of Wii news, Stellar Blade holiday themed event, which includes new cosmetics, seasonal music and a new minigame, launches December 17th.

[Tim Gettys]

Ho ho ho.

[Greg Miller]

Merry Christmas. That was great. You crushed it. How do you like having a Christmas tree?

[Tim Gettys]

It's really nice. Moose likes to eat it. Yeah, that's not so nice. His little tummy hurts.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

But then he's really cute when he's laying there all sad. But I'm like, dude, you're filled with pine cones.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, filled with pine cones, pine needles. I guess technically, yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

My tree looks dope as shit though.

[Greg Miller]

Can I see photos?

[Tim Gettys]

Eventually, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Tim Gettys]

Feel like you need to see a video though because it's the hue lights that really bring it together.

[Greg Miller]

I want to see. Hell yeah. I want to see that. And that's the end of WEE News. We move from we News to the beloved super chats. Remember? Of course you can be part of the show YouTube.com kindafunnygames with question, comments, concerns or just like Mac and Awesome birthday tax. Love you. Thanks for the NB inclusion. Happy birthday, Mack and Awesome. And no problem for the NB inclusion. Mitchell is a kind of funny member for 11 months and uses that to say Greg, when you do win Fantasy Critic will we get a Greg way of you going to Tim's house to get your trophy. Also thank you all for everything you do. You're the best part of my day. Smiley emoji con. Thank you for making the best part of our day making content with this. And Tim, I don't know what I'm going to do when we stop the CEO, overthrow this and come for this trophy. You know what I mean?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Anything could happen.

[Greg Miller]

There it is. Why is Mike not approved this trait? Not to mention can we do this? I'm not even sure if you can do this trade. I don't know if you can trade games.

[Barrett Courtney]

So weird that it like let you propose this trade. Yeah, yeah. The games have already scored. I think it the if he approves it, I think the blight the site will automatically block it, but got it. It's an interesting be an interesting test.

[Greg Miller]

If Michael just helped me out. You know what I mean?

[Barrett Courtney]

I think he doesn't want to do it because then that gets him lower on the. Like, he wouldn't.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, he opened it on the stream with me. I was like, it's not here. So. I mean, he would have done it. Michael, do whatever I say. Mike's a good friend. Kuma says, has Greggy and Timmy seen Brightburn? If not, will it be the Superman in the Review series? James Gunn produced it.

[Tim Gettys]

I never saw it.

[Greg Miller]

I have seen Bright. Come on. Of course I went. Saw Bradburn. You kidding me? Great, great alternate reality Superman story there of what would happen if the Kent's raised Superman, but he wasn't here for good.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, really good. It'd be fun to toss it in. I don't know if you would.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, probably.

[Greg Miller]

I'm going to lobby harder for Supergirl.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You know what I mean? Because here's the thing. One day you'll bend the knee and let me do Superman in review.

[Tim Gettys]

Mm.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know why you hate me.

[Tim Gettys]

I do.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know why you won't let me do it.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But when we get there, it's gonna be the Superman movies. It's gonna be Supergirl. It's gonna be a bright burn. All right? I'm gonna. We're gonna have some fucking fun, all right? Because I'm sick of it. Everybody. They'll go and review. Interview the hobbits.

[Tim Gettys]

We didn't. They'll go, we didn't.

[Greg Miller]

And interview Indiana Jones. They'll go and interview. Scream when I can't do it because I'm having a baby. You know what I mean? I would have loved to been on screen and review. You know what I mean?

[Tim Gettys]

You fucked up of them.

[Greg Miller]

Greg Barrett. Don't even get me started on the injustices that happened when I left to have a baby. All right?

[Barrett Courtney]

Remember Kevin tried to take CEO away from you?

[Greg Miller]

Kevin? I do. Kevin left. They did nothing interesting around here for two months. They waited for him. All Greg's asking for is Superman in review.

[Tim Gettys]

Is it zooming in more than it normally does? Like, how are we doing?

[Greg Miller]

He also said, I want Aliens versus Bread and review. I've also said we should probably go back and do Ghostbusters in review again because a lot of people had bad opinions. I'm saying we need to do Kevin Smith the right way because we remember. We remember. We remember him watched the wrong version of Mallrats because he bootlegged it all. And then he. Even then he still went through with the interview. Right? He didn't stop it then. He didn't stop the interview to do the right thing. Meanwhile, I got to take my mother, my elderly mother here trying to see her grandson. I got to take her to see Kraven. That's what I got to do on a Friday. New Helldivers content. Can I fucking play it? No, I got to go to. I got to go see Craven. Should I stream it or we make money streaming, right? No, let's go see Craven. That's what we need to see. Anna Taylor Joy's abs as she plays Craven.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh my God. So close. So close. And with that, what a beautiful.

[Greg Miller]

And I wait to watch Brightburn eventually. I mean, even if you never will, let me do what I want to do around here. Let's get two more super chats and get out of here first. So, Gary, actually. Fuck. There's a lot more than Delaney Twining says. Happy last week. Kind of funny crew. Hope you all have a good holiday break. We will see you in January. Love you all. Especially the Trogs. Beyond beyond, remember. Of course. Yes. We will be back in January. This is our final week of content. Next week off, then the 4/5 of January's first week off. Because we'll come back on January 3rd for kind of funny day year 10. It's gonna be insane. Hella drove says Gollum should have been game of the year. Get out of here.

[Tim Gettys]

This year's insane. This week's about to be insane though. Not only are we getting the Superman trailer reaction, we're also finally getting sonic the hedgehog 3.

[Greg Miller]

Nobody cares about that.

[Tim Gettys]

I think a lot of people do.

[Greg Miller]

And again, Barrett, hit me the zoom. Okay. Hey everybody. Are you a fucking weird pervert? Who wants to see this blue thing run fast? Let's do fucking that. Let's. Let's interview that shit. Let's give it multiple screencasts. Let's dress up in costumes that show your junk. Let's fucking. That's. That's what we do here. Greg Miller, founding father 10 years. No Superman. Superman review. Why we do that, Greg? Then. Then the audacity of these people to do Spider man in review and just all over the Raimi films just like out of the gate, just on them. And then what do we get? Movies so objectively worse and terrible they have to go over and just bend over. You. Andy's doing Matrix moves out there trying to dodge the criticisms of how badly they. Spider Man 2. Spider Man 1 Indignant it. Ryan super chat says Happy Superman week to all who celebrate. There's no way this movie can be bad. No way. The movie on that one, I haven't said that one about this one yet.

[Tim Gettys]

Not yet.

[Greg Miller]

I believe it, but I haven't said it. Julio says a first person Pac Man VR game for meta quest. I'm not sure if that's announcement, if that's news demanding that yeah and then fade into gaming gets the final super chat and says hey Greg and Tim, with all these game announcements being made, does it pave the way for other games like Xenogears and Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon?

[Tim Gettys]

If I'm a betting man, we will see Chrono Trigger HD2D at some point. Xenogi we'll just. We're just gonna get like a a straight remastered port. It's not gonna be anything fancy. I don't think we ever see Legend of Dragoon again.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, fair enough. Then we go to kind of funny.com you're wrong where you can correct us with something. We say Lucid Dream says reheldivers to the author. Failed to mention that you can earn super credits through normal gameplay items can be earned without spending real money on thing. Yeah I think there's multiple issues and I agree the author and we didn't read the entire article of like what they're the most bent out of shape about but I do think the FOMO of yes, you could earn the you could grind the credits and buy the thing from the store that way. But there's also the is it going to be on the store that long? Do I need Should I spend the money right now and just get it? I think that's part of their argument but again I'm not the author so I'm not jumping into it. And then Kebab says breaking news. Peggy has given Balatro an 18 plus rating. The creator, Local Funk fires back with Since Peggy gave us an 18 plus rating for having evil playing cards, maybe I should add microtransactions, loot boxes and real gambling to lower the rating to a 3 plus like EA Sports FC. God damn.

[Tim Gettys]

Dang.

[Greg Miller]

Speaking of getting them, we got Gary Whitta.

[Tim Gettys]

That's right.

[Greg Miller]

Gary's here to review Helldivers 2 with me, Joey and Snowbike Mike. That's gonna be your kinda funny gamescast that's recording right after this here on YouTube.com kinda funnygames and twitch TV kinda funnygames where each and every day Kinda Funny Games Daily is live with the nerdy news you need to know about. If you like that, pick up a Kinda Funny membership Support our small business. Say thank thank you for an amazing year of content and of course. Gear up for January 3rd, which is right around the corner. Our 10 year anniversary. Are we giving stuff away? Hell yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

We more stuff than we've ever given away. Better stuff than we've ever given away.

[Greg Miller]

Well, and I want to do one thing because I said I would say something when I said stuff about giving it away. Yeah, we're gonna be giving away meta quests from our friends from Songbird. Their meta quest game is out right now. We'll be doing that or whatever that's happening January 3rd, like I said. But there's still a whole week of content here and stuff to hang out. And don't worry about Thursday when we're watching Superman. It can't be bad. It's gonna be great. It's all amazing, it's all good and that's it. So yeah, everybody, let's go talk about Helldivers. If you're watching later or listening later on podcast services around the globe, thank you. Please, like subscribe, share and then come back and get the Gamescast video. Wherever you get that. If you're watching live on Twitch, hang out while watching live on YouTube. You're about to get a new link. Until next time, it's been our pleasure to serve.