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Greg Miller
Today in the nerdy news you need to know about, Fallout 5 is reportedly green lit. You'd hope so. Pokemon is teasing an announcement for next week. And the last of us. Season 2 just scored a bunch of Emmy nominations. We'll have all this and more because this is Kinda Funny Games Daily. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Kinda Funny Games daily for Tuesday, July 15, 2020. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller, alongside the Hispanic heartthrob Texas Street Latino Heat. Clicking heads and ripping them to shreds. Globetrotting Headshot and Rootin Tootin. Three point shootin' nitro rifle from Twitch tv, Andy Cortez.
Andy Cortez
Hey. You haven't said it in about five months and you crushed it.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I haven't hosted with you in a while. I haven't hosted something.
Andy Cortez
Hey, it's good to see you.
Greg Miller
It's good to see you. You're looking good. Good outfit. Why didn't you tell me to wear the bomber with it? You know, you called me last night. You begged me to wear my Nitro Rifle sweatshirt. You cried. You cried. You cried. The bomber jacket with it, you know?
Andy Cortez
Yes. Over the week, I ordered a little Domino's Pizza.
Greg Miller
Yeah, you did. And did you feel like you're cheating on Pizza Hut?
Andy Cortez
Well, I mean, pizza understands because of the distance. It's one of those things where like, sure. Hey, you know, as long if you're gonna drink drinks at the house, you know, that sort of thing.
Greg Miller
You know, they're cool parents.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. And, you know, the pizza was like, hey, congratulations, pizza's delivered. Go have fun. Oh, looked outside, I was like, pizza there. Where's the pizza?
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Walked around to the house. It's the usual suspect. Usual suspects not there.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Oof. This is bad. Go back inside to get my phone, Come back out. Look, man. All right. Customer service.
Greg Miller
Car eating a pizza across the street.
Andy Cortez
Customer service. Give them a little buzz.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And they go. It's just like an automated thing. And they go, hey, how can we fix this? You know, we're sorry this happened to you. Would you like to talk to customers? Hears, oh, we'll just give you like a little voucher for a free medium pizza. Yeah, you can get.
Greg Miller
That was your order.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Okay.
Andy Cortez
So I was like, all right, I'll take the voucher for the free medium pizza. Whatever. Get the voucher. Domino's car pulls up and I was like, I didn't say shit to the guy.
Greg Miller
No. Yeah. What are you going to do?
Andy Cortez
He met. It was his fault.
Greg Miller
Yeah, well, yeah. You hit the button. Too early, you're done. As you know, this is always one of those fun things when we talk about, I am going to die on this chair one day. This is the chair.
Andy Cortez
Is that the good one?
Greg Miller
No, no, not the cushy seat one. Yeah, I don't like the cushy one. Seat makes my ass too hot. I got a big hat. You already know how hot I am. Touch me yesterday. So imagine you were running really ass airy on it. No, this is the one that's got the something going on with the leaner, where it's like. It's just a little. It's flirting with disaster. And one day it's gonna get one of us. It's Russian roulette.
Andy Cortez
It's gonna be a good clip for sure.
Greg Miller
Gonna be a great club. Yeah, I appreciate all the times, you know, we talk about doordashing or delivery and then there'll be some psycho in the chat who's like, I don't. I haven't eaten out in the past year. You know what I mean? There's the. So I know we're in a different thing. We live in a big city. We do it. But it's the same thing with me and doordash or whatever, where when I get there and I see the car drive by the house and keep going, and like, we have a little bit of confusing directions, but I write them out in full with, like, photos. Sometimes even, like, the amount of times I'm like, fine, fuck it. And I write into the app and like, they. They do. Dash is refund. I'm to the point now that doordash doesn't automatically refund. They're like, hold on a second.
Andy Cortez
You're trying something.
Greg Miller
Give me some more information. And then they give it to me for the amount of times I do it. And then 10 minutes later, some bewildered delivery driver walks up with the thing or whatever. The one time. This is a creepy one. Oh, one time I order, it was. Jen was out of town. I think it was one of the family emergencies. I'm already on the ropes. You know what I mean, Ben? We wake up and I'm like, you know what, Ben? We slept in. We had a rough night. Whatever.
Andy Cortez
Ben, order something. Go.
Greg Miller
We're gonna order a breakfast, which we don't ever do. You know what I mean? Let's order a breakfast. And like, I was, like, doing chores, trying to get him out ready, and, like, it's delivered. And I look at the photo they did, and I'm like, I have no idea where this is, this is not my house. This is not. Whatever. And it turns out they were so bewildered that they went to the house next door, didn't go to their front door. They opened like their garden gate and walked all the way to the back of their house and trespassing, left the food outside of their like bedroom door. Like, I got a text the next morning like, hey, we just woke up and there's food out here labeled Greg. I'm like, yeah, they're like that. They came to our bedroom. Like, I'm like, you can't be mad at me. I didn't give, I didn't give those instructions.
Andy Cortez
I mean, but I was so happy.
Greg Miller
That I didn't go for it because it was that thing of like this kind of looks like the tile work of my neighbor. But like, I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to trespass into this situation.
Andy Cortez
That looks like, that looks like Bob's landscaping.
Greg Miller
Yeah, looks like Bob naked in the bed back there. I don't need the BLT that badly. Guess what? We're not here to tell you doordash stories. We're here to tell you what the nerdy news you need to know about. Because this is Kinda Funny Games Daily, each and every week down a variety of platforms. We run you the nerdy video game news need to know about live on Twitch TV kindafunnygames, YouTube.com kindafunnygamesh of course, podcast services around the globe. If you like that, we'd love you to pick up a kinda funny membership. $10 a month gets you all of our content ad free. That's more than 80 episodes a month. And of course it gets you your daily dose of me, Greg Miller and a 15 to 20 minute daily podcast that adds up to four hours of podcasting exclusively each and every month that we call Greg Way. It also gives you good karma. We're a local small business, help us out. No books tossed away, no big deal. Like subscribe, share, ring the bell, go watch that Tiny Chef video. And of course, remember, if you're watching live, go to YouTube.com Kenya kind of funny games where you can super chat to be part of the show. Then you can ask questions about the news, you can comment on the news. You can even say stuff like Paul H. 8243 did birthday tax. A new Vegas 2 is more enticing than Fallout 5 at this point, but I'll be there day one. Either way, you're part of the problem, Paul H. But happy birthday.
Andy Cortez
I appreciate See, in eight years, nine years.
Greg Miller
As you know, I am a big Greg Miller fan.
Andy Cortez
But as you also know, I love me some me.
Greg Miller
I'm a big kind of funny fan. And so it's always a treat when I'm not on a show because then I get to listen to the show and I really, really, really appreciate it. And was enjoying yesterday's games daily when it was Blessing, Mike and Bless working on this idea that's slowly building that one day just at random he's gonna have a birthday celebration for somebody because he gets the birthday taxes and he sometimes he doesn't even say happy birthday to the person. But then one day he's gonna have the party poppers, he's gonna have the cake, he's gonna. I like that a lot.
Andy Cortez
We're gonna go a little too far with it.
Greg Miller
100%.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
What'll be the worst is like that'll be the day we don't get a birthday tax and we'll have like a CL housekeeping for you. Of course. We're an 11 person small business. All about live talk shows. Thursday is the most important month of the year returns. Thursday, the most important month of the year returns. Still the middle of July, but click on this link. Kevin Wood with a Thursday, the most important month of the year returns. Oh, I know what this is. Doctober everybody. That's right. Donkey Kong Bonanza is out there. And I guess Barrett and Blessing are coming back together one more time as Barrett Courtney has tweeted skeeted bs. That's blue sky, Tim. The most important of the month returns Thursday. Donktober with Blessing and Barrett strap in today after kind of funny games daily. You're going to get a games cast. It's a shit list. Every Nintendo 3D platformer ranked after Gamescast is Roger beating Andy's ass in a 1v1. Quick scope, quick scope, slash no scope. Modern Warfare 2 challenge.
Andy Cortez
Just know I have some problems about.
Greg Miller
All I'd like to hear. I mean I know you're going to air them during the thing, but this has been building quietly that you're 1v1ing Roger and call of Duty. I've seen this on the calendar. We had to move days at one point because of X, Y and Z. But then I heard today there's some chatter out there from you. You're chirping that this isn't actually what you agreed to.
Andy Cortez
Well, you know. Hey, Andy, you can't wear that hoodie. The hoodie that was sent because of you. You can't Wear it on the. You know, it's my hoodie. You can't wear it on the same days. Blah, blah, blah. And. And then he says, we're going to 1v1 for this quick scope. Call of Duty.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I'm like, nice, dude. I'm down. I've been called with Mike and Nick and all you do, you know, jabroni boys, play some Modern Warfare, whatever, Whatever. He says, rust or dust or one of those maps. And I'm like, cool, I'll play on rust or dust. And. And then, you know, so like, Mike setting it up yesterday, and he's downloading, you know, the 2009 video game. And I'm like, what? Well, I've got to play keyboard mouse. And they're like, no, it's controller. Like, well, why would I even agree to this? That makes the. I'm in no position to, like, you know, what do I get from this?
Greg Miller
I never want to judge anybody too harshly, but Roger's a stone cold son of a. All right? I don't give me slithering in the grass waiting to strike. Yesterday, I didn't even come to work. I think he was on a jet ski. I'm not sure what he was up to.
Andy Cortez
I saw him jet skiing, looked out in the distance, and I saw him. So, yeah, we're gonna do this, but I'm gonna dominate anyway, you know, Dominate anyway. Doesn't matter. What up?
Greg Miller
And he.
Andy Cortez
And I'm like, roger, I. I thought we're just gonna do keyboard mouse. Like, I thought was gonna be the current Call of Duty game or whatever. And he goes, no, you need to prove. No, no, you. You need to prove that you could beat me on any battlefield or any. Sure. I'm like, I never said I could beat you in the first place.
Greg Miller
Yeah, man.
Andy Cortez
So I'm playing under protest.
Greg Miller
I appreciate that. I think you're still gonna win.
Andy Cortez
If I lose, then I'm gonna. 1v1. I'm in valorant. And then the tiebreaker we could do.
Greg Miller
I was gonna say we could do like. You choose the game. He chooses a game, then I choose a game.
Andy Cortez
Tiebreaker. Nidhogg.
Greg Miller
I was gonna go probably. Luminous, man. Oh, who get the higher score?
Andy Cortez
Is that out already?
Greg Miller
No, but, I mean, there's other Luminouses.
Andy Cortez
No way.
Greg Miller
I fucking hate you. I dislike you. Really. Psp, brother. Luminous. Electronic symphony on the Vita. Back touch. Fucking killer combos out there.
Andy Cortez
Back paddles. They had back paddles back in the day?
Greg Miller
No, just to add a touch pad. It sucked. If you're A Kind of Funny Member. Today's Greg Way is gonna be a Q and A or not? I don't know. I haven't recorded it yet. My dad called me in the car. If you support, you'll get one. All right. It'll be great.
Andy Cortez
That's. That's the Greg Way yesterday.
Greg Miller
This just means there's more time to go to Patreon and leave your comment in the chat. Leave it on the post. If you're a YouTube member, leave it on the YouTube. If you're a Spotify. You know what? Fuck it. I'll. I'll pull from yesterday's Spotify comments. Go to Spotify right now and leave a comment over there. The great way.
Andy Cortez
Just give me. I'm on the way to work. Dad.
Greg Miller
That was an episode of P.S. i love you once. I forgot to edit that out. If you supported $25. Our kind of Funny Happy hour is happening today at 3:15pm if you're unaware, that is a Patreon exclusive Perk for our $25 members. Where of course we give you hour long, if not longer podcast where you get to call in and talk to us. It's like a radio show where you take your calls, answer your questions. Cozy Bears got games. Everybody has fun except Ignacio Rojas. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin the show with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. Time for some new seven items on the Roper Report. Baker's dossier. That was quality Kevin. Gold stars for Kevin in the chapter near the end.
Andy Cortez
Kind of. Shakira.
Greg Miller
Why don't we host more together? Lost in my eyes.
Andy Cortez
Just like it.
Greg Miller
God, where is she? What if we did that and then she came out and sang for the birthday?
Andy Cortez
For Zoe's random birthday text.
Greg Miller
All right, Shakira, we need you to come in for a birthday cameo. Whose birthday is it? We don't know yet. Someone has to tip it.
Andy Cortez
We'll find out.
Greg Miller
Number one, fallout. Fallout 5 is now reportedly fully greenlit. This is Cameron koch over at gamespot.com/ Fallout 5 has reportedly been officially green lit and development is going forward. Moving forward, though, who exactly is leading development on the new installment in the series is currently unknown. The report comes from the latest episode of the Xbox two podcast where Windows Central executive editor, Windows Central Executive editor Jez Corden discussed how Xbox is handling Fallout as a franchise moving forward. However, he didn't know what studio would be developing Fallout 5, as he believes Bethesda Game Studios core teams are currently busy working on additional Starfield DLC and the Elder Scrolls vi, Corden said. From what he has heard, part of the forward push for Fallout 5 and Fallout in general came at the expense of ZeniMax Online's next MMO, codenamed Blackbird, which was cancelled as part of Microsoft's latest round of layoffs. As Corden explains, MMOs are expensive to build and have to compete with established games like World of Warcraft and even ZeniMax's own the Elder Scrolls Online. With that in mind, Microsoft made the decision to cancel ZeniMax's unannounced project and invest that money into Fallout, an established IP that would be more likely a surefire win. From what I heard, it was a case of do we want to sink a ton of money into getting this project Blackbird to a point where it can compete with the established players in the market, or do we want to allocate the investment towards making Fallout five? Corden said. It is worth noting that Corden states that he doesn't have enough information to write a full story about Fallout 5 or who may be developing, so it's worth taking the information above with a grain of salt. Project Blackbird was still in pre production when it was canceled, but no official details about the next game from the Elder Scrolls Online dev have been announced. It had reportedly been in development since 2018, ran on a new game engine and was to be a new Sci Fi ip. Development on the game was said to have been going well and had begun ramping up, with higher ups at Xbox seemingly improving of the game just a few months prior to cancellation.
Andy Cortez
We're getting so close to the right thought process to be there because like you know, to have this insider whatever saying like hey rather than keep on dumping all of our resources into a game that a gamble, a gamble in a crowded market already, what if we just said like screw it already? So like I we're two steps like we just got to move like a little bit behind and then we'll be there at like well should we start development on this thing or work on something else that is a bit rather.
Greg Miller
Than have people at ZeniMax Online working on Blackbird. Yeah because it's the shockingly everybody the fact that it's hard to make an MMO stick isn't new to 2025 or 2024 or 2020 or 2010 like we have seen many MMOs come and go because they are incredibly hard to do and taste. A very large investment. I would even point at Fallout 76 right. Of like a more modern and I know is an MMO whatever but a more modern online game that you're going to and how long it's taken to get that from this thing fucking sucks. Oh, it's good enough. Yeah. I enjoy Fallout 76 for what it is.
Andy Cortez
If Fallout 76 was six months into being released today. Yeah, done.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Like that's something that would just get scrapped right now. The thing that really bums me out about about Project Blackbird, you know what said about everything that we've heard about it? Mmo sci fi shooter, third person shooter.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah.
Andy Cortez
Just like it's kind of got everything.
Greg Miller
Here's the thing bro. You got Dune, you got Dune. Go be Dune.
Andy Cortez
And there's I need more enemies in Dune.
Greg Miller
I need you to be doing and gooning oh you'll get them.
Andy Cortez
I need more enemies and Dune more.
Greg Miller
Enemies there soon the one Batista will be there.
Andy Cortez
Really? They're adding for the next movie shop. So for the. For Fallout 5. I mean, duh.
Greg Miller
Yeah, exactly. Fully green lit. It would be like one of those like. And again we're talking about what is fully greenlit. Mean what is Bethesda, Microsoft Xbox? What are they calling fully greenlit? What is Jez reporting is fully greenlit. Not that I'm saying he's wrong, but this is coming down the wire in multiple forms where you have to imagine Fallout 5 has been in some kind of pre production for quite some time. Like they knew this was coming. We had this is going on.
Andy Cortez
But it's not only the fact that of course we're going to make a new Fallout game. Duh. Of course it's one of our very, very popular IPs. But you know, on the back of the show getting very, very popular and finding a massive new audience and seeing the success that comes with releasing a game and even Fallout bringing you know, all the concurrence we saw with Fallout 4 and all that like 76, you see exactly what happens whenever all these new fan bases come in. And so it is a no brainer. And it's, you know, part of me is like all right, this is kind of a nothing story. Except for the fact that Project Blackburn is exactly. That's the whole sort of equation.
Greg Miller
And super chats over on YouTube.com kind of funny games. I need to know your take on what you want out of Fallout 5. What you want out of Starfield DLC, because that's still happening. And of course, what this all means. If you would have sacrificed Blackbird for this or if you would have even been interested in Blackbird before then. El Captain 2293 Super Chat and says, honestly, I don't care. They are sacrificing a bunch of studios and projects and only concentrating on big IP now. It's crap.
Andy Cortez
I mean, yeah, I mean, it's. It's a bummer either way because people are being sacrificed, because studios are being, you know, terminated, because people are losing funding. All of the bad stuff that happens because of these, because of, you know, any sort of executive saying, all right, we gotta. We gotta, you know, you know, tie these things up here and, you know, we need more money up top or whatever. I. I don't disagree with that statement, though. It's like we knew that this is going to happen anyway and the fact that other people are likely suffering to make this thing better. I don't, you know, until we get the full story, maybe six months from now, maybe a year from now, of who, what teams are working where.
Greg Miller
Yeah. And how many were sticking around. Right. There was yesterday the whole story from the ZeniMax Online Union.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Being like, right now, nobody's laid off, but we are expecting them to come. This is going to come at the expense of people's jobs.
Andy Cortez
We can then come back and revise this episode.
Greg Miller
Of course. Yeah. Look for the annotation, this conversation here. They're only construing a big IP now. It's crap. I think you've seen this writing on the wall for a long time across the video game industry, Right. Where people are literally. I mean, Embracer, right. Was literally like, we are going to exploit the franchises we have. And you see, I think everyone doubling down. This is almost. Stick with me because you could demonize. What I'm saying is I'm defending Microsoft when I'm not. Fallout as an ip, I think is interesting where it's almost the fucking Dark Knight, right, of like, die the hero or live long enough to become the villain, where it's like they're only focusing on big ip. Well, yeah, but again, like, look at the success of all the Fallout properties around the Fallout show and how, again, ridiculous it was that there wasn't a new Fallout to go along with that. And again, why. I think when Fallout Season 2 launches or is about to end, you're going to see that Fallout 3 remastered rumor we've had forever. In the same way you Saw Elder Scrolls where they will want you to go buy game pass, slash buy that game for 80 bucks or whatever and get in there. And so, like, I'm infinitely more. We talk about what you want out of these different companies, what kind of games you want, blah, blah, blah. I think a standalone single player RPG that is just a Fallout is a, as you're saying, Andy, a way bigger sure fire bet than, hey, we're going to take a shot on this mmo. Because again, even if we're talking about Blackbird sounding cool and doing all these different things, most MMOs play differently than what you'd think of a third polished third person shooter you're running around doing.
Andy Cortez
Right.
Greg Miller
A sci fi single player third person shooter. It's the same thing of, you know, like right now, shocking no one. I am dying for a Superman game. I'm dying for more comic book games. It's like that thing of like, I want that hit. So I turn on DC Universe Online and it's like, I love DC Universe for what it is, but this isn't. What I want right now is bloated quest log and I'm standing on this bridge with all these terminals. I'm like, where did I leave off and what am I doing? It's like, this ain't the scene. This isn't what I'm looking for.
Andy Cortez
I mean, the biggest bummer of all this though, for me is it'd be one thing if you cancel sci fi third person shooter Blackbird. I think those are all still kind of rumors it was a third person shooter at least. But I've heard like read several people mentioning that. And it'd be one thing to cancel that year And a half, two years into development, this is going on since 2018. It's just so heartbreaking for these developers to have something you're working on for that long to just be done. Go work on this Fallout game. If that's even what's happening. We'll see.
Greg Miller
Mellow fellow says, classic Bethesda, talking about a game a decade away. And I think, again, we always get so hung up in this conversation about the Microsoft acquisitions and how they're going to exploit Call of Duty as you would expect when you spend $69 billion on it. Right. I'm also wondering, what is the conversation between Xbox and Bethesda and how does that look for a Fallout 5? You know, Jess's reporting here is very clear. It doesn't know who's working on it. Right. Are we seeing Obsidian get another shot with this? Are we moving this off of it. You know, people either love or hate Bethesda games, right? But they have a vibe and they have an engine and they have this. These things to it, right? And so for them to still be apparently working on Starfield DLC, but of course, ramping up to Elder Scroll 6, which you assume is still how many years away, Andy, like, when are you actually playing retail? Elder Scrolls 6?
Andy Cortez
2028 is what I would guess.
Greg Miller
See, I. When I. When we start talking about 2028, 2027, somewhere in there, that's when I start going, I wonder if you time this out to be a fucking launch game for Xbox's next box, whatever that's going to be. You know what I mean? Try to time it out. That killer app that close to it, right? And of course it would. And everywhere else. But the best experience for some reason will be on Xbox.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Anyways, you talk about that. And if I'm Phil and I'm. We paid all this money. And again, like, Todd's been open about it in interviews. I think we talked about it on his kind of funny one when we launched gamescast, right? Of like, how many more years does he have in the tank for being the guy, Right. When you're talking about those conversations, you have to have that, hey, we bought you and now we want the IP and we need a. We cannot wait another decade for a Fallout game. We're already wasting time right now and all this goodwill from the show that we should have been capitalizing on. So, yes, we are going to Obsidian, which would be an interesting choice because, of course, Obsidian, hands down, no argument, the MVP right now of Xbox. Right. When you look at what they're. They got avowed. They're about to have Outer Worlds 2 at the end of the year, and we are imminent ungrounded twos. Three games in one year that are all great. But no, I shouldn't say that. I guess what I played of Outer Worlds, too great. What I played of Grounded, I'm interested to play more of. But I'm. I'm not the, you know, I'm not the survival game guy. But, like, quality from what it looks like, great. So here you are, and it's like, do you go to them and say, cool, you've done great with Outer Worlds and all that, go do Fallout, or do we wait and see if Outer Worlds deserves the three? Is it going to be. But there's so many conversations to have about that, and Xbox has so many studios now that again, I don't think you wait or you. Which is not what we're seeing right now. Pour more resources into Bethesda to make Bethesda a bigger team, to make them be able to go make another game side by side.
Andy Cortez
So fascinating to think about, you know, the. The Last of Us multiplayer not happening. On the brink of, you know, the Last of Us TV show becoming very, very popular and they're not being a new Fallout for, you know, the Fallout TV show kind of hitting like just some, some bad misses there. Right. You know, it's. It's hard to predict. Of course.
Greg Miller
Of course. And I think, you know, for me, I want to make sure I'm not having my cake or not having my cake and eating it too. Or not eating it too. Where it's the conversation of I remember.
Andy Cortez
Leaving on the table, on the, on one half of our table for anybody to go pick up.
Greg Miller
It's so. I have such a distinct memory of when Dark Knight was coming out and there was the rumor of, oh man, they were making a Dark Knight game and it was so bad that they were like, we cannot release this. And that was the death of movie tie ins for the most part. Right. Because then Batman, Arkham Asylum came years later and it was like, oh, thank God they didn't rush this to do that.
Andy Cortez
Gotcha.
Greg Miller
So it is one of those of like, I think it would have been a beautiful coincidence, of course, to have a Fallout game, but you can't make that happen. I think you can make a Fallout 3 Remastered happen. I think you can do oblivion again that way and have that ready to go. But yeah, it's such a touch and go of like, what do you want to do in Last of Us? And again, like Last of Us, I know how many people wanted that multiplayer experience. I'm still so glad they canceled it because again, if you believe the Naughty Dog line, it would have changed who they are as a studio and it wouldn't have. They wouldn't have been able to do what they want to do. If you believe me, you don't cancel a great game. That game just wouldn't have been up to snuff. It wouldn't have been a 9.5 like Naughty Dog wanted. Maybe it would have been an 8.5. But they did what they needed to do rather than force something to try to hit this. You know, here's what's going on with Last of Us is that Zeitgeist.
Andy Cortez
And on the flip side of things, Elden Ring Night Reign is hit eights and sevens out of tens and sold 6 million in the first week. You know, like, the. The profits still would have been there, which is, you know, another thing to kind of think about. Before we move on to story number two, I want to ask you, what do you want out of Starfield?
Greg Miller
Dlc, if I'm being frank. I think I want it to end. I think this should be the final one. This should be the big one. You know, how much I. I've enjoyed my time with Starfield, but I'm not like, you know, I still subscribe to all the subreddits and stuff, so I see these people are like, oh, man, this game is dead. I've put, you know, 800 hours into it, and they're not talking about what comes. And I'm like, you're fucking. That is.
Andy Cortez
You're off your live service game.
Greg Miller
That's not what. That's not what it should. Like. There needs to be an end. So, I mean, I would love to see if we're gonna say goodbye to Starfield. You know, I don't. I. There's so many things I. I still think the menus are so ugly. I still think it's got no style in that, But I don't think you're gonna fix any of that. So it really does become. I'd want another big expansion to sink my teeth into that really revolves around being Starborn, I think. I think that'd be the biggest. To really reward the people who want to go through the Unity over and over again. Damn.
Andy Cortez
I forgot that's what it's called, the Unity.
Greg Miller
No, come on now. I'll never forget, you know, I mean, I think about going through it every day. Maybe I go, maybe I do it.
Andy Cortez
Again, wake up every day. I'm like, damn it. Not. Not in the Unity right now.
Greg Miller
Science Dog Official has our final super chat on this line of questioning. I want them to find a way to blend the Bethesda formula with the expectations set by modern RPGs like Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate. Organic quest structures and more engaging, polished gameplay. I'll tell you what, Science Dog Official, that would be fucking awesome. I would love that. I don't think you're gonna see that. Elder Scrolls 6, I'm sure, will be a great game. I think it's going to be a Bethesda game, and I think the sooner people wrap their heads around that, the sooner they will have a better time with that game. This is back to a conversation we had in the lead up and then the fallout from no pun intended Starfield, where so many, you know, Mike was here going, this has to be Game of the generation. And I was like, this is going to be another Bethesda game. Like they have all this experience making this type of game and that's what this is going to be. To get what you're talking about, Science Dog Official would be, hey, Bethesda, keep working on Elder Scrolls. Keep making your Starfield dlc. We are taking Fallout and we're going to partner up with Obsidian CD Projekt Red who third Party X to have them really put their stamp on this game and make it something different. But I would love. I would love to see that as well. We'll see. What I would tell you to look a little bit at the role playing you're gonna get out of hell is us. When you talk to people there and have the different conversations and the environmental storytelling and da da, da, it feels RPG E, but it feels way more like, all right, cool, but where are you gonna find the treehouse? Where are you gonna find this person you need to talk to?
Andy Cortez
It also just.
Greg Miller
I know people like to Adam fall for as well. Sorry.
Andy Cortez
It also just kind of reminds me of the. I think the thought process that me and Roger had playing Doom the Dark Ages, where after Doom Eternal comes out, you know, four or five years after that comes out, Doom the Dark Ages is here. And the question is, everybody else has gotten really good at making games. It's not just you all anymore. Can you all show that you are still super special? And I think Bethesda games were insanely special back in the day. And maybe they kind of kept that same level of expertise and kept that same level of magic, but everybody around them just got really, really awesome. And I think that's where, you know, maybe back in the day, you look at their games and you. They stood out because of what they were. But now a lot of other people who grew up playing their games, a lot of other people wanting to make their own IP or just, you know, in some cases doing certain things better.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And to which you point to and say, oh, I wish they did this. I wish they did this like Larry and did with Baldur's Gate 3. You know, it's. It's.
Greg Miller
Come on now.
Andy Cortez
It's kind of tough there.
Greg Miller
Yeah. One final thing on this from. You're wrong, Bob. Bob writes in and says J. Bobby Schreier is refuting Jez Corden's report on Fallout yesterday. This is what he said. Quote, xbox didn't lay off thousands of people so they could move those resources to new projects. They laid off thousands of people to cut their overall fiscal year budget, end quote. Bobby Bob says basically resources weren't redirected for fallout specifically at all, which, of course, I would believe as well.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
We move on to story number two. Pokemon is teasing next week's Pokemon Presents stream. This is Jordan Midler at vgc. The Pokemon company has already released a teaser image ahead of Pokemon Presents next week. Pokemon Presents will return on Tuesday, July 22. The event will be broadcast on the Pokemon YouTube channel. Ahead of the show, the Pokemon company has released an image of Pikachu standing in front of what appears to be a set of DJ decks and some speakers.
Andy Cortez
What.
Greg Miller
Do it quote. The Pokemon Company International invites fans to watch the latest Pokemon presents presentation on July 22. That's a Tuesday, said the Pokemon company in a statement earlier this year. Quote, Trainers can tune into the broadcast on the official Pokemon YouTube channel for the latest news and updates from the world of Pokemon.
Andy Cortez
It's going to start off with him looking at the camera going, are you in a rock? Hey, guys, thanks for watching this video. You all know this is hard for me to make. I've been doing this a long time and it's time for a change. This is very bizarre. I. I had no idea that this image was real. I thought this was kind of a meme thing, but fascinating.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Okay.
Andy Cortez
Music title.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I mean.
Andy Cortez
I mean, it's not Pokemon.
Greg Miller
You don't even know what the they're doing. Right.
Andy Cortez
But it's. It can't be a Pokemon Presents. That's only. Whatever this is.
Greg Miller
Oh, no, no. They're going to talk about Zah. They're going to talk about everything.
Andy Cortez
Okay. Sleep.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Awake.
Greg Miller
I don't know. Like, could this just be in Za. Do you think you have a. You can send your Pokemon to work at a club and you get money from it, you know?
Andy Cortez
I hope so. God, I hope so.
Greg Miller
Are you excited for Zah?
Andy Cortez
Oh, yeah.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I'm so pumped.
Greg Miller
Me too.
Andy Cortez
I mean, it's Gonna. Especially the Switch 2 version.
Greg Miller
Of course. It'll actually run.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, it'll run good and look good.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I also just want a new Pokemon in my life.
Greg Miller
Did you beat Scarlet Violet? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Andy Cortez
I just want that feeling again. It's again Scarlet and violent. Was just dog shit to look at.
Greg Miller
But have you seen that switch to you going back?
Andy Cortez
I mean, a lot of Switch, it runs smoother, but still looks dookie when the tiling textures look like you're playing a you know, PS2 game, you look at the rocky cliffs and it's just like, whoa. You didn't even. You didn't even bother putting rocks in the mountain to kind of like hide the text. It's just all sort of the same texture.
Greg Miller
But you expect that to be different as well.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, I think so. Well, I mean, I think a lot of it has to do with the environment.
Greg Miller
Petty.
Andy Cortez
Maybe the speed.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
You know, the speed of how they were, of the development time or whatever. But yeah, it just. It. It just feels right. It feels like it's. We need a new Pokemon. We're getting a new Pokemon.
Greg Miller
It's time.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah.
Greg Miller
I'm excited for.
Andy Cortez
Excited to make my little dude.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I don't know what this. Like, I'm unfamiliar with this gen of Pokemon.
Greg Miller
Sure.
Andy Cortez
I never played. I played all of them, but only like an hour each, and then I beat, like, several of them.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
But I don't really know much about this gen, so I'm excited about this area.
Greg Miller
Petty.
Andy Cortez
What?
Greg Miller
Petty.
Andy Cortez
What?
Greg Miller
Paris. It's Paris. I mean, it's the City of Lights or whatever it looks like.
Andy Cortez
I kept thinking you're telling me that I. Petty.
Greg Miller
Oh, no, no, no. I'm saying. Perry.
Andy Cortez
Perry, up.
Greg Miller
Betty.
Andy Cortez
Is Jen excited?
Greg Miller
No, no, no. Why? I mean, as much as. No, she's not. I don't even. I couldn't even tell you if she knows it's happening. You know, Jen's always so busy.
Andy Cortez
Like, I'm excited.
Greg Miller
I'm gonna show it to Ben.
Andy Cortez
That's just like the little bread place back home.
Greg Miller
Yeah, well, I mean, she didn't. She's not from Paris. She's from Quebec. You know, of course, very different, similar.
Andy Cortez
But not the France of the West.
Greg Miller
Sure, yeah. I'll give you that.
Andy Cortez
Paris of the West.
Greg Miller
Kebabs writes in and says, Pokemon DJ Hero featuring the 2 BA Master CD. To be a. I don't know what that means. That's probably some Pokemon reference that you and I don't get. To be a master cd.
Andy Cortez
Oh, to be a master cd. No, I have no idea what that is. But a lot of people in the chat loving that reference. It seems people are sucked about it. Does Ben have a favorite Pokemon? Ask Daniel Z.
Greg Miller
That's a great question. He builds the shittiest teams I've ever seen in Pokemon. Because I'll put. It's a way. It's like the curse right now where I'm like. I'm playing. I'm trying to beat all the DLC for Scarlet and all that.
Andy Cortez
Can't get a well rounded team.
Greg Miller
It's like, I've got my guys. We're ready to rock out there. You know, we've challenged the elite four. We're doing the whole. So it's like he's out there with the.
Andy Cortez
With the Elon Musk Elden ring build.
Greg Miller
Ben wants to go out there and he's just capturing like, you know, level sevens. I'm like, we don't need these guys. Yeah, these aren't the people or whatever. So then I let him go and then he gets mad if he sees me swap somebody out. So I gotta fight lower levels. So I know that he has a on his team. He's always excited by somebody, but I mean, he's still, you know, pops for Pikachu the most. When we went to the toy store and he finally wanted to buy a Pokemon, he bought. He wanted a Pikachu in the little ball that you build. Like the little LEGO one that sits in the ball.
Andy Cortez
Right, I've seen that.
Greg Miller
Yeah, they didn't have that. So then his next one was he settled on Bulbasaur. So he's a Bulbasaur? He runs. Yeah, like Bulbasaur quite a bit.
Andy Cortez
Yes. All right, dude.
Greg Miller
Yeah. So, yeah, those are. I would say he still pops when he sees Pikachu anywhere. But Pikachu is the mascot, so it's kind of hard not to. And yeah, he still plays with Bulbasaur and carries him around. So. Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, I love that.
Greg Miller
I do. We. And I. Forget chat. Let me know. Of course. I will be reviewing Pokemon's are. Don't listen to Tim. Do we know the starters for Zar? Is that gonna be part of this presentation? We think.
Andy Cortez
No, we know the starters. It's. It's two from Gen 2 and one from Gen 3.
Greg Miller
Okay, hold on. I got. They kind of like did a little swip swap starters. Why? Okay, here we go.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Cyndaquil Tort Pig Torchic tape or Totodile. Man, I wish I could have just named him Chikorita. Chikorita.
Greg Miller
So here's. I mean, obviously I. Look at that and I will say it on three. One, two, three. Toe to dial. Like, I'm going with Totodile. Of course. He's awesome. My problem is, Kevin, I don't mean to make you do this on the fly. I'm sorry. Can you show me the evolutions of Totodile? Because I'll tell you what, I picked quackers in the environment.
Andy Cortez
You're gonna love Totodile's. Evolution.
Greg Miller
I hate this guy Quaxly. They just. Okay, okay, okay.
Andy Cortez
He turns to a big Godzilla.
Greg Miller
All right, this is great. This is awesome. I'm done. That's what I need to know. Because I didn't look ahead years ago when I started fucking Violet. I was like, yes, this duck that kind of has trump vibes. I don't like the trump vibes, but I like this duck. Awesome. And then he just evolved into this figure skater, and I'm like, I don't. I don't know you. Yeah, I named you Quackers, and I don't know you anymore.
Andy Cortez
You are not Quackers.
Greg Miller
You're not the guy I fell in love with, and that's okay.
Andy Cortez
People change.
Greg Miller
We all evolve and change, and then.
Andy Cortez
We go change your career, and you're out here figure skating, and, like, I just. I don't have time for you.
Greg Miller
You look like Napoleon Dynamite in that figure skating movie with Will Ferrell. Yeah. And I just can't get down with that. And again, I don't mind. I'm not standing in your way. I want you to go beyond free. Well, there's all powerful.
Andy Cortez
There's never been a bigger betrayal, I think, than. Than from that same gen. The little fire. Fueco.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah, Fuecoco.
Andy Cortez
There's no bigger betrayal than what he turned into, because.
Greg Miller
Can I see that evolution? I'll try to get you.
Andy Cortez
It's. Think of, like the word fuego, Kevin, but Fuecoco. F U, E, C O, C O.
Greg Miller
He's so cute to start. And that's why I didn't want to believe in tododile.
Andy Cortez
Easily one of the cutest stars of all time.
Greg Miller
Kevin. I'll drop into assets for you. Okay, so the final one there, like.
Andy Cortez
It'S like a clown, like, bald head type thing.
Greg Miller
Like, I think he looks badass in his final thing.
Andy Cortez
It's certainly better than the second.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Blades of Glory. There it is. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, the second one. And I'm not one of these woke people. All right. But we're kind of. Is he. Is he in a sombrero? Is that what they did?
Andy Cortez
Yeah, well, yeah. Fuecoco. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the. Yeah, that. The hat is. That's an egg up top or whatever. And then the. The egg hatches in the third one, and there's a little firebird. You see the little firebird on the nose?
Greg Miller
Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what? I fuck with Fuecoco.
Andy Cortez
So the. The middle one, though, is the worst. And I'll tell You why? The middle one looks like a random enemy you would see in a Mario game you don't really talk about anymore. The middle one looks just like a thing that kind of runs and, you know, you got to hop in its head on the egghead to, like, weaken it or whatever. The middle evolution just looks like dog shit.
Greg Miller
I hated it. Damn.
Andy Cortez
Okay, but for Coco, the cutest, easily the cutest.
Greg Miller
Kevin. I'm tossing general. I'm just throwing a general. I can never find assets in a pinch.
Andy Cortez
I didn't like the.
Greg Miller
Can we see Quaxley's Evolution? Just in case people don't know what I'm talking about here.
Andy Cortez
Didn't like the purple squares. Chat on. On the final evolution there.
Greg Miller
Mellow fellow says he uses it like a mic. Greg uses what? Like so that. Look at how cute Quaxly was to start. Yeah, Donald. All the way down. There you go. Evolutions. Thank you. Quaxly. So adorable. A DuckTales character. Fine. Quacks. Well, I was like, I'm not vibing, but everybody's got these awkward teen years and then, yeah, we get to quack. I'm just like, bro, are you a mech? Are you. Are you a figure skater? I don't know what I'm looking at.
Andy Cortez
I see the mech with the. Yeah.
Greg Miller
What are we doing over here?
Andy Cortez
Yeah. I think a lot of people hate on me for saying that Bulbasaur is my favorite of the OG starters.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I only know that's bad from the Hunter Pence song we did back in the day.
Andy Cortez
But I'll tell you why. It's because he's a quadruped.
Greg Miller
Okay?
Andy Cortez
He's got. Because the other, you know, Squirtle and Charmander, they walk on two feet like little humans. And I like looking at Bulbasaur me like he's a little animal. He's a little, you know, four legged creature. Lizard, dinosaur. I don't like that way more than a. Than a two. A two footed Pokemon.
Greg Miller
I was already excited for. Zah. Now that I know that Totodile grows up to look cool. I mean, I'm very.
Andy Cortez
In a very, very popular one.
Greg Miller
Okay, good. I mean, I'm gonna do that.
Andy Cortez
I may go tepig.
Greg Miller
Final chat on this one comes from Benny B. Goode, who's a member for 23 months. Thank you so much. It says they did Cyndaquil dirty in the new Pokemon. Why, that looks just like him. I mean, come on. John Heater, right, has a lawsuit against Pokemon if he wants, unless he came afterwards I'm not even sure how to Heater v Quaquavel Ladies, gentlemen and enbs, this is Kind Of Funny Games Daily. We still running you through the nerdy news you need to know about in the video game world, but now it's time to tell about our sponsors. Remember, if you don't want to hear from the sponsors, you should pick up a kinda funny membership. You get all of our shows ad free plus your daily dose of ME Greg Miller. And if you want to go be a patreon member at $25 you could get all of those benefits and the happy hour today where you call in and be part of a show with us that's exclusive to Patreon. However, right now you're not using your benefits. So here's a word from our sponsors.
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Greg Miller
Number three on the rope report the Last of Us season two just scored a bunch of Emmy nominations. This is James Hibbard over at the Hollywood Reporter. The Last of Us Season two might have divided fans, but the new episodes were clearly a hit with television Academy voters. HBO's post apocalyptic drama earned 17 Emmy nominations on Tuesday morning. While that's fewer than the first season's 24 noms, it still represents a terrific hall. Perhaps the most interesting nomination is that Pedro Pascal was nominated for Best Actor. While Pascal's performance was widely praised, his character Joel had very limited screen time, appearing in only three of the Season's seven episodes star Bella Ramsey was nominated for best actress for their portrayal. Portrayer. Portrayal.
Andy Cortez
Close. So close.
Greg Miller
For their version of Ellie.
Andy Cortez
You didn't even try to give up on it.
Greg Miller
I mean, that was like three swings and a miss. I gotta just get on the base, you know, Portrayal. Plus, the show is also nominated for best drama. Several other actors scored Emmy guest actor nominations. Joe Pence and you guys, who you guys call this Joey Pants. Joey pants. Joey Pantalonita as Eugene. Jeffrey Wright as Isaac. Caitlyn Dever as Abby. And Catherine o' Hara as Gail. She better win. Catherine o'. Hara.
Andy Cortez
She was awesome.
Greg Miller
Gail was awesome in the show. The other Emmy nominations for Last of Us included best production design, casting picture editing, contemporary makeup, prosthetic makeup, music supervision. Nonfiction. Short for a making of documentary, sound editing, sound mixing and special visual effects.
Andy Cortez
Nonfiction. Like I saw nonfiction. I was like, what? Of what? And then of course for documentary. But that'd be awesome if they just thought this is all real.
Greg Miller
Hell yeah. That's a lot of noms well earned, I think. You know what I mean? Were you divided? Were you happy with season two?
Andy Cortez
I didn't even finish it.
Greg Miller
God damn it, Andy.
Andy Cortez
Too many games to play. And I was.
Greg Miller
Oh, so that's why you finished Death Stranding 2.
Andy Cortez
These were out at very different times.
Greg Miller
Interesting.
Andy Cortez
I didn't even start that strand. I mean, I kind of did. I got to Mexico. Back to Mexico. We'll get there later. Yeah, I. That's why whenever I've talked about the show, it's always just probably not from the best perspective. Because it's based on people's tweets.
Greg Miller
Yeah, that.
Andy Cortez
And I try to go for the more rational ones where I. I know of. I know a lot of people personally who are rational non freaks and say, man, I just didn't love what they were doing with this character. This character. And this was better in the video game. But it's kind of. Honestly, it's refreshing to see the general audience go, okay, but like, I don't care what happened in the video game. I watched the show. I didn't play the video game. So that is. That is kind of nice to see that, you know, this fandom is growing and maybe bringing in new people and we're seeing numbers go up on, you know, last of the sales and getting this new sort of timeline, you know, update or whatever. Like, it's encouraging for sure.
Greg Miller
Okay, I'll accept that. I thought the performance. I. I like season two. I. I have my problems with it, but I didn't. I think it's well earned on these nominations. I think Jeffrey Wright had a really good stuff in there. I like to see Caitlin Devere in here. Like seeing again Catherine o'.
Andy Cortez
Hara.
Greg Miller
Amazing. I can't wait to see what happens there.
Andy Cortez
But yeah, I can never even finish Andor. And that's where I don't need to.
Greg Miller
You know how it ends. You've seen Rogue One. What are we doing?
Andy Cortez
Don't do the Nick Scarpino.
Greg Miller
Okay, I'm sorry.
Andy Cortez
Don't do the next Carpenter.
Greg Miller
You got me engaged. You got me engaged. You know what I mean? Did you like Andor?
Andy Cortez
I watched the first three episodes of season two and it was like, this is goaded.
Greg Miller
When Tim asked you if you've been watching Ironheart, did you laugh in his face the way I did? Like, no, Tim, I'm not.
Andy Cortez
I mean, I heard it's good. Like, for what it's worth, I heard it's good. I just. There's too many video games legit. And I know that we say that all the time.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Never. Like maybe about two weeks ago is like, I'm at peak mass when I'm ending my stream. I'm continuing to play something else off stream.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And then I go take a shower and then I play something else on my Steam deck in the shower. Keep Estrella.
Greg Miller
Yo, yo.
Andy Cortez
Or the altars or, you know, back in Dune, awakening to get some new lighting for my house. Too many things.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I understand. Number four on the Roper Report. The only official John Wick game is being delisted. This is Claire Lewis at Polygon. John Wick Hex is being removed from Steam and all other game platforms this week, according to a statement released by the games publisher. Big Fan Games quote, John Wick Hex will be removed from sale on all platforms beginning July 17, 2025. The statement shared on the game's Steam PA reads, After July 17, 2025, existing owners of John Wick Hex will still be able to access the game via their digital libraries, PC console and or physical copies console. However, new purchases of John Wick Hex will not be possible regardless of platform or storefront. Big fair or game. Big fan. Sorry, I thought I could do it where I was. I saw we don't have something I wanted. So I was like, I'll open up the other window over here and I'll clearly be able to keep reading. And I could not because the wind blocked everything. Big Fan Game Statement did int detail the reason for the game's impending Removal. But given the fact that the publisher is mainly known for publishing licensed games, it's possible the publisher's license to use the John Wick IP has expired and is not being renewed. John Wick Hex is currently the only official John Wick game on the market. Andy. So you dress like him all the time. How do you feel about that?
Andy Cortez
That's so bizarre. Like I, you would think that these, these things get ironed out a bit more, knowing that you are the only thing on the market. Like, I guess in these deals there may just be a standard licensing, you know, time period that most studios or most developers and most publishers go for. Yeah, I, it, it's, it's so odd to me. I feel like this is really the only market that this happens in. Yeah, the only medium. Yeah. Very, very odd.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I think it's interesting how contracts must be negotiated and done this way. And you. When games were just boxed and you didn't worry about it, you sold through all the copies and then that was the end of it. Right. So it is a now of it. And I, I would, I would hazard a guess. We see it in movies, we just don't know it. Where it's like, okay, Company X is licensed to sell the Blu Ray and then when that license expires, right. Another company then picks it up and goes. But you don't know because you're just buying the movie off the thing. Right. Why you might know a little bit more about John Wick Hex, of course, or have heard us talk about it, of course, is that this is a Mike Biffle game. Mike Biffle, of course, Independent video game developer who's been around a long time and a kind of funny background friend from the very beginning. I put in assets bs. That's a Blue Sky Tim chain from him. Pour one out and pick up a copy ASAP if you want to. This one is a weird. This one. This one was a weird journey initially polarized folks, but now it's one of the consistent favorites people want to chat with me about when I'm doing public stuff. My first disappeared game. A weird feeling its legacy will be that you can watch me getting my arse kicked on The John Wick 3 special features by the eventual director of Love Hurts. My pink face will echo through eternity. You know, we talk about all this stuff and I think we lose the human factor. So to see Mike out there talking about this, not being torn up about it, it seems, but being like, man, this is weird. We know a game especially for, I think you know, Mike doing Thomas was Alone Volume, you know, these games that for some degree he owns and operates and really takes care of something he's working on licensing for that's out of his, you know, hands. To see it go away is interesting. Interesting. Of course, Mike just put out that Tron game too.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Again, it just kind of goes back to this being such a unique sort of medium and I guess it happens in TV and movies sometimes too where you can.
Greg Miller
It's removed from streaming.
Andy Cortez
Superman or not the Superman but the Super Mario Brothers movie, you know, we had to watch through a certain way. I forgot exactly how we watched that during in review. But yeah, it is odd when you think about these creators that just want to look back on something that they've maybe done and you have to have it or else it's just not out there anymore.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Bummer.
Greg Miller
Very much a bummer. Andy. Number five. Another bummer. Nintendo is aware performance may drop slightly in Donkey Kong Bonanza, but says the team prioritized fun and playability over. I'm sorry, during development. This is Vicki Blake at ign. The director of the upcoming Donkey Kong Bonanza has acknowledged some performance issues while saying the team prioritized fun and playability during development. In an interview with La Vanguardia, director Kazuya Takahashi responded to performance issues noticed by a journalist whilst previewing the game. Quote, there are several factors to consider, he said when asked about the issues. First, we intentionally used effects like hit stop and slow motion to emphasize impacts. Second, because we use voxel technology, there are times when there are major changes in destruction in the environment. We're aware the performance may drop slightly at these times, he said. However, as the journalist says, overall the game is smooth in the points where large scale changes occur. We have prioritized fun and playability. End quote. Okay, I feel like it's a non story for the most part. Right. Of like. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I. Your Switch 2 is doing all this voxel stuff and you're smashing through the floor and you're red factioning in the tire. I expect there to be a chug here and there when a lot of shit's happening.
Andy Cortez
It's. I mean, you know, I'm fine with a couple hitches here and there.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Is this article, you know I could look at it from both sides. I could look at it as like oh, it's reassuring because sure you may get some frame rate drops and when Digital Foundry does a breakdown you'll see it's 60 frames and the frame time graph is looking A certain way. And then when this happens, it drops down to 52. And this, when this happens, it drops down to 41 or whatever and it comes right back up. But as long as it's not a consistent style issue. And on the flip side of it, it, you know, on the more, you know, pessimistic side, it's classic, you know, Classic Nintendo. Yeah. You know, you know, maybe they aren't as. Maybe they aren't as worried about. Maybe their performance issue is different. For me, it's like when you talk to somebody, you know, you ever hear those conversations of like, oh my God, this person that lives in Texas thinks that this is a short drive and it's like a 90 minute drive or something? Like that's not a short drive or whatever, right? Yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, like, all right, that may not be a performance issue to you, but to all of us who are playing on other consoles, it is kind of egregious.
Greg Miller
I'll wait and get my hands on it before I have a final answer. But for me, that game looks so much fun. I cannot wait to play that with Ben. Show that to Ben. That I'm going to be able to accept a hitch here or there. The first garbage all the time.
Andy Cortez
Let me ask you this. GR Open critic or Metacritic? Either one. What do you think the average score is going to be?
Greg Miller
I'm better. I'm not better. I'm bad at all of it. But Metacritic, I feel like he's more of my wheelhouse. Open critic always confuses me. So Metacritic.
Andy Cortez
Now keep in mind, this is on Stoneback Mike's Fantasy League.
Greg Miller
I know.
Andy Cortez
Fancy critic.
Greg Miller
So we're saying Metacritic, what, at the end of the first weekend or the day, you know, it's always like that. It changes and evolved.
Andy Cortez
I would say, I would say after a week of reviews, all the reviews have poured in from all of the large outlets.
Greg Miller
I'm thinking Ghostbusters too. So I'm saying 89. Ghostbusters 2 came out in 1989.
Andy Cortez
Oh, I thought you're gonna say like one of the. I don't know why I thought you, you meant the most recent movie. And it had like a frozen empire.
Greg Miller
Garaka, Remember Garaka. Tell you what big moment today when I was, what do you want to watch with breakfast? And he saw Ghostbusters too. He's like, I want to watch that. Like, but that's a big movie. We can't just watch that right now. Big deal.
Andy Cortez
I mean, I Will not take you to school.
Greg Miller
Jen comes home, like, why are you still here? You want to watch Ghostbusters 2, babe, I'm sorry.
Andy Cortez
I'll go. I'll go 88.
Greg Miller
Okay, I think 88 right there.
Andy Cortez
You said 89. 89. Yeah, yeah, I'll go 88.
Greg Miller
It looks awesome. Previews are really positive.
Andy Cortez
You know, people are having a blast out there in dk.
Greg Miller
Dk. Donkey Khan number six. Sources suggest that the staff laid off at King will be replaced by AI tools they help create. Sick fucking hell. Anonymous sources within the mobile developer King have said that the staff who have been laid off as part of Microsoft's recent round of redundancies will replace by the AI tools they helped to train. Speaking to MobileGamer Biz, one staff member at the Candy Crush saga maker said that many of the level designers had been let go after spending months creating tools that would build levels more quickly. Quote. Now those AI tools are basically replacing the teams, the anonymous staffer said. Similarly, the copywriting team is completely removed. I'm sorry. Similarly, the copywriting team is completely removing people since we now have AI tools that those individuals had been creating, end quote. Around 200 people are thought to have been laid off from King as part of Microsoft's sweeping cuts. But the same source quoted above suggested that the actual figure could be higher. MobileGamer Biz reports that a recent internal employee survey found that morale within King was already low. An anonymous source quoted by the site said that since cuts, morale is now. Quote. In the gutter.
Andy Cortez
Geez Louise.
Greg Miller
Like the expected outcome of introducing AI to these kind of things where corporations that don't value you as a person or an employee can then go, oh well, the machine can do it.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah. And I wonder if. If those projects, you know, when you talk about having AI being trained to build levels, I'm not even sure what that means.
Greg Miller
Like for Candy Crush, right? It's just laying out the different icons and all that shit.
Andy Cortez
Damn. I mean, tragic. This is like, this is what everyone.
Greg Miller
Corporations wants when they introduce this, right? Remove the human element, be able to fucking do this.
Andy Cortez
This is the type of story that you are terrified of and hope that you never hear about. And it's already here, of course.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Damn.
Greg Miller
It'll be interesting to see as how much worse this gets and where it goes. And again, like, I don't want to be insulting with a broad stroke, especially about something I don't know, but like you're talking about, so stick with me. And maybe I'm speaking out of School, yada, yada. But you're saying your morale was already low within King and it's like, well, yeah, because again, not having much information on it, but you look at Candy Crush as mobile game slop, right? Games that are just there to distract you from whatever you're doing in the parking lot while you wait for somebody to finish whatever. Like, clearly that's what this corporation also thinks of these games. These are just spigots of money to turn on and go. Right? So yeah, we don't need quality, we don't need people actually making good shit. They just. Somebody needs to make shit because they will buy shit and you will play shit.
Andy Cortez
When do the big strikes happen? Because this all kind of reminds me of the voice actors saying, oh well.
Greg Miller
I mean this is like when you're. Why we're sitting there all the time rallying for video games to unionize and make those calls. This is, I mean, I would assume, right, the King is not unionized. And so yeah, there is no where to do that, to argue, to collectively bargain against this and you know, build in protections. Like you can sit here like, oh my God, it's so stupid. Those people changed the trained, the AI. But if your boss showed up at your desk and said your new job is to we're working on this AI tool. You guys have to work like you would do it because it's your job. Right?
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
You'll be out of a job either way. At least go for six months or I'm sure they also told them this won't replace you. This is going to make your job easier. Yeah. Now they're fucking out the door. This cracked me up this morning in a bad way, in a sad way. Whatever.
Andy Cortez
This will give you time to concentrate on creative.
Greg Miller
Exactly the BS I just put into assets. Hey, localization industry, how's it going? And then it's all these fucked up translations from OpenAI and ChatGPT and all these different things wrong on the things are published on Kevin. If you can bring that up and go to the second slide where it's like blah, blah, blah, blah, it's all in different language. Then Claude can make mistakes. Please double check the responses Chat GPT said and then it's all in German. Then this one here. Sure. Here is the translators text into Brazilian, Portuguese. And then every keep going on. It's like they're translating and then the answer is being the fucking response from the robot is translated. It's like, oh my God, oh my God. This is what we want. This is where we're at right now to try to save a few fucking bucks. Horrible. But Andy, I'm sick about talking about the collapse of everything we love in creative industries and the fact we're all just gonna work for Amazon robots soon. If I wanted something maybe happier, maybe smaller, where would I go?
Andy Cortez
You'd go to our last story, the Wii News Channel, where we cover all the small news items you need to know about.
Greg Miller
Number seven, the Wii News from game developer Horses and Saturnalia Saturn. Saturnalia developer Saturnalia Santa Ragagnoli has accused Apple of undermining the value of sustainability of games as cultural and artistic properties after the tech company informed the studio its 2016 visual novel Wheels of Irelia will be pulled from the App Store without clear justification. Okay, just ripping stuff down now. Great. Via Wario 64 Dragon Quest 1 and 2 HD 2D remake on Switch will not have an Upgrade path to switch 2 version. Save data also cannot be transferred or shared between the two versions. So buy the one you need. Invincible Versus will be playable at Evo. That's exciting. For Blessing.
Andy Cortez
Whoa.
Greg Miller
Well, it makes sense too, of course, obviously, with. No, it doesn't. Actually, I was gonna say with PlayStation, but this is. I played this at Xbox, so don't even listen to me.
Andy Cortez
How many characters do you think they'll have? Because for the demo, didn't they only have like these five? Oh, I guess we see it right there.
Greg Miller
Rexblood wasn't even in the demo I did, so.
Andy Cortez
Okay, cool.
Greg Miller
He's a new guy.
Andy Cortez
So you get one extra.
Greg Miller
Yeah. You get somebody else out there, maybe two extras from Eurogamer. Cyberpunk 2077's 2.3 update is being revealed this week and it's probably got something to do do with cars. Interesting.
Andy Cortez
They're really, really hyping this one up.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Like, I know this is the. We always think that it's, you know, it's like the Rolling Stones, like, farewell tours. Like, it's always going to be the last Cyberpunk update. This is the final one. But this 2.31 is one that everybody was like, all right, we have one more thing coming. And like, it's actually really, really sick and something. And it being car related kind of makes me less excited tomorrow.
Greg Miller
Right. I. I'm not on that page. Hold on. Okay, so it's Tuesday, July 15, 11am Pacific right now. Okay.
Andy Cortez
You just ask me what time it is.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I have an embargoed thing in here and I'm trying to decide if I could do it, but I'm not confident enough to say it.
Andy Cortez
Is it the time zone in, like, Poland?
Greg Miller
Well, no, because it's. Look at the. Don't say anything you're seeing. Okay, I'm agreeing to an embargo of that, which is July 15th at 6:00am Pacific. So I, I'm in the clear. But then, you know, here's what we'll do. We're in a Google. We're in a Google. It's like, well, this is one of those things where it's like, all right, cool. No, everybody's reporting on it, so I can report on it. Great. Okay. I wonder if this is tied into the fact that Apple hit me up with an email cd. Projekt Red is announcing that Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition is launching on Macs with Apple Silicon this Thursday, July 17 through the Mac, Apple Store, GOG, Steam, and Epic Games Store. I wonder if this is all part of that, right? As they go out in one giant version, whatever the update is, make one big beat out of the whole thing.
Andy Cortez
I, I, I mean, I hope it's like, content related.
Greg Miller
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm saying that yes, this update will have content about cars or whatever, but it's like they're partnering it with this release because this is very much like, like it's being revealed this week. And it's probably got something to do with cars. It's probably revealed to go out with the app. This Mac version, I assume, is gonna launch with it. So there you go. Frost Haven is launching Steam Early Access July 31st. Asteroid Requiem is out now on Steam. Eden's Zero launches today on PlayStation 5, Xbox and PC. Here's a game pass update for you. Standard is getting high on life today. I assume Robocop Rogue City is coming out on July 17th. Farming Simulator 25 is August 1st. If you're an ultimate person, my Friendly Neighborhood comes out on the 17th. Back to the dawn comes out the 18th. Abiotic Factor comes out the 22nd. Wheel World comes out the 23rd. Very excited for that one. Wuchong.
Andy Cortez
Wuchong. Fallen feathers.
Greg Miller
Well, I got the fallen feathers. I could pronounce the 24th and then grounded two on the 29th. And that is the end of we news. Let's get some super chats in before we get out. Oh, actually, you know What? There was one not you're wrong. But Ms. News Mappy wrote in and said Guild Wars 2's next big expansion was announced today titled Visions of Eternity.
Andy Cortez
Damn, they're still doing Shit.
Greg Miller
Yeah. It seems hype is growing and people are returning or trying for the first time. A release date is announced for October 28th this year. And then Nitro says missed we news Destiny 2's Edge of Fate expansion is out today.
Andy Cortez
What?
Greg Miller
What?
Andy Cortez
Everything's.
Greg Miller
Wow. Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Everything's happening all at once.
Greg Miller
Everywhere. Everywhere. I want to do laundry with you. Cozy Bear live in the Super Chat says get ready. On this afternoon's happy hour, you will witness the next evolution of my Cozy Bear branded antics. It's going to be a wild ride. Cozy Bear. Keep it together.
Andy Cortez
Keep it together.
Greg Miller
Daneguru605 says Ghost of Tsushima stream idea to lead up to the new installment of the franchise. Bless plays the game and every time the wind blows to guy Jin Sakai, Mike has to let his wind blow. And then he ends with a frowny emoticon. Know what he was writing? And then he wrote it and he's.
Andy Cortez
Like, oh, not happy about it.
Greg Miller
Fredo can't read. Says SOS I've been locked out of my PlayStation account due to a lost email. Can anyone tell me where I might find help? Email? The Sony did not help help.
Andy Cortez
No, they're not gonna help me. Just like they didn't help me at all with my 250 gift card.
Greg Miller
Again. You could have hit me up and I could have helped you. That I can help you with.
Andy Cortez
Probably nepotism. I'm against it.
Greg Miller
Okay, fine. You want to be mad at the people. I understand that. I, I. Yeah, I don't have a direct content for you. Fredo can't read. Sorry. But we can try. I don't know.
Andy Cortez
We can try Google around. One of my favorite things. Just like, like watching kind of funny content for so long is. Is Greg just trying to read any of these words that like are not real words. Somebody's name or username.
Greg Miller
You know I'm bad at reading real words. So when they're fake words I definitely can't.
Andy Cortez
That's my favorite thing.
Greg Miller
I try. I'm out there having fun.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Dang.
Greg Miller
You know what I mean? Like. And the thing is about Dane Gruer. You know what I mean? Maybe that's a real name. Dane's a real first name.
Andy Cortez
It sure is.
Greg Miller
Gruer could be a. You know what?
Andy Cortez
Let's.
Greg Miller
Hold on. We're going to go to Google Dane Grew or see if I can find who the fuck this person is. There's a channel. Oh, here we go.
Andy Cortez
You're gonna try to like docs.
Greg Miller
I dox people on the Show a lot. I don't know if you watch it a lot. I'm on the LinkedIn now. Well, you know what? Okay, hold on. 605.
Andy Cortez
Meg. No, not like Burton, Meg, because that's. That sounds hard for him.
Greg Miller
Area code. South Dakota is the 605 area code.
Andy Cortez
I don't know if this is legal.
Greg Miller
I don't know. It's fine. And then there's a Dane Grewer who is a student at Southeastern University in North Carolina. I don't think that's them.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, I don't know if we should.
Greg Miller
I'm gonna back off that one.
Andy Cortez
This one.
Greg Miller
There's a Dane Greer has a profile on Pinterest.
Andy Cortez
Game. Game Master Bob.
Greg Miller
I'll find you, Dane. He's going to find you, D. What are you going to do, Dane? When I show up at work in North Carolina?
Andy Cortez
Game Master Bob's super chat at $2. Thank you. Game Master Bob says if you enjoyed. If anyone enjoyed Thunder Folk, check out Frost Haven. Thunderfolk was at a mobile.
Greg Miller
Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I always want something I wanted to try out. Seems like a great party game, but you got to go to parties for that.
Greg Miller
Kobe Foster. W7U says Superman tax. Taking my girlfriend tonight to IMAX to be able to listen to Superman review. Torn borrows the work. Tom borrows the work. What the fuck are you trying to say? It was all normal. You know, everyone's just writing things and then hitting send and not reading them. But anyways, I'm looking forward to you doing that as well. Are you excited? Have you watched Superman Returns yet for interview this week?
Andy Cortez
When are we doing that?
Greg Miller
Thursday?
Andy Cortez
No, I have not yet.
Greg Miller
I watched it last night.
Andy Cortez
Oh.
Greg Miller
Oh, you like the movies when they're short, right?
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Greg Miller
This one's extremely long. Oh, no, it's a breezy, like two hours, 40 minutes. No. Oh, I'm going to tear the new asshole D cash. 114. Fallout 5 leaked to Jez only so we can talk about how much we want Fallout rather than lamenting layoffs. These were clearly canceled for AI. Fuck Xbox. I mean, I think we. When we talk about Fallout, we lament the layoffs as well. But I understand. Everybody's mad about it. I understand. Take your time. Do your thing.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, you know, you try to, like, dangle. Dangle the. Dangle. The Fallout Fives.
Greg Miller
Kind of like when you're a pedophile and you get called out on it and then you're like, well, no, but look how bad Rosie o' Donnell is. The Kooshball lady living in Ireland. She's a threat to the country. That's what we're doing now.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Greg Miller
Remember when he was like, why are we still talking about Epstein?
Andy Cortez
Enough. Enough talking about Epstein.
Greg Miller
Why? He's dead. He know you sucked one out then? Have you seen this other one going around? I shared it on Instagram, but there's the one of the. There's more photos of Trump with Epstein than there are trans athletes in the ncaa.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, there's great stuff.
Greg Miller
The world's fun falling apart, but we're happy to be here to hopefully be a distraction for it every day with you as we talk about video games and all the nerdy news you need to know about. If you love that and like us, like subscribe, share YouTube.com kindafunnygames all the different podcast services go over to Twitch where if you have Amazon prime, you.
Andy Cortez
Have Twitch prime and then hold on, you have Twitch Prime Harmonize both of those.
Greg Miller
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Kinda Funny Games Daily: Video Games News Podcast
Episode: Fallout 5 is Reportedly Fully Greenlit
Hosts: Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller & Andy Cortez
Release Date: July 15, 2025
In this episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily, hosts Greg Miller and Andy Cortez delve into the latest happenings in the gaming world. From the exciting news about Fallout 5 being fully greenlit to discussions about upcoming Pokemon announcements and The Last of Us Season 2's Emmy nominations, the duo covers a broad spectrum of topics. Amidst their insightful conversations, they also share amusing anecdotes and engage with listener super chats.
Timestamp: [27:37] - [17:09]
Greg Miller: “Fallout 5 is now reportedly fully greenlit. This is Cameron Koch over at GameSpot.com/Fallout 5 has reportedly been officially greenlit and development is going forward.”
Greg and Andy explore the implications of Fallout 5 securing full greenlight status. Drawing from Jez Corden’s report on the Xbox Two Podcast, they discuss Microsoft's strategic shift to invest in established IPs like Fallout over new ventures such as Project Blackbird, ZeniMax Online's unannounced MMO.
Andy Cortez: “It’s a no-brainer. This is part of a bigger equation where Microsoft is focusing on big IPs to ensure surefire wins rather than gambling on crowded markets.”
They highlight the potential impact on ZeniMax Online, noting the cancellation of Project Blackbird due to the high costs and fierce competition in the MMO sector.
Greg Miller: “MMOs are incredibly hard to do and a very large investment. Even Fallout 76 had its challenges, so focusing on a standalone single-player RPG like Fallout 5 is a more secure bet.”
Timestamp: [17:09] - [23:16]
The conversation shifts to Microsoft's decision to cancel Project Blackbird, ZeniMax Online’s next MMO project.
Andy Cortez: “The cancellation is heartbreaking for developers who've been working on it since 2018. It’s a sci-fi third-person shooter with an MMO twist, which sounded promising.”
Greg Miller: “This reflects a broader industry trend where companies prioritize existing franchises over new, unproven projects. It also raises concerns about job security within studios when AI tools begin to replace human roles.”
Timestamp: [29:12] - [38:05]
The hosts transition to lighter news about Pokemon, discussing the upcoming Pokemon Presents stream scheduled for July 22.
Greg Miller: “The Pokemon Company released a teaser image of Pikachu in front of DJ decks, hinting at some exciting announcements next week.”
Andy Cortez: “I'm pumped for new Pokemon announcements, especially with the anticipation around Zah.”
They speculate on potential reveals and express enthusiasm for new game features and Pokemon characters, sharing their favorite starters and evolutions.
Greg Miller: “I’m excited to see Quaxly’s evolution. It’s adorable, even if the middle evolution didn’t quite hit the mark.”
Timestamp: [41:09] - [44:38]
Greg shares news about The Last of Us Season 2 receiving 17 Emmy nominations, slightly fewer than the first season but still a significant achievement.
Greg Miller: “Pedro Pascal was nominated for Best Actor for his portrayal of Joel, despite limited screen time. Bella Ramsey also received a nomination for Best Actress as Ellie.”
Andy Cortez: “It's impressive seeing the show gain recognition, especially since some fans were divided over the latest episodes.”
They commend the performances and production quality, acknowledging the show's impact and the growing fandom.
Timestamp: [44:38] - [55:45]
The episode covers the surprising news that John Wick Hex, the only official John Wick game, is being delisted from all platforms.
Greg Miller: “John Wick Hex will no longer be available for purchase after July 17, 2025. Existing owners can still access it, but new purchases are halted.”
Andy Cortez: “It’s odd since this is the sole John Wick game out there. Licensing issues must be at play.”
They discuss the implications for the game's legacy, especially considering Mike Biffle's connection to the project and its unique position in the gaming market.
Timestamp: [55:45] - [58:43]
Greg Miller: “Nintendo acknowledges some performance drops in Donkey Kong Bonanza but emphasizes that fun and playability were prioritized during development.”
Andy Cortez: “As long as the performance issues aren’t consistent and the gameplay remains smooth, minor hitches might be acceptable to players.”
They analyze the technical challenges of integrating voxel technology and effects like hit stop and slow motion, which can occasionally strain system performance.
Timestamp: [58:43] - [55:45]
One of the most poignant discussions centers around Microsoft’s layoffs at King, the developer behind Candy Crush Saga. Approximately 200 employees have been let go, with AI tools replacing roles in level design and copywriting.
Andy Cortez: “This is the kind of story that terrifies us. AI is replacing human creativity, and it’s happening right now.”
Greg Miller: “It reflects a broader industry trend where corporations prioritize cost-cutting over valuing their creative workforce. Introducing AI tools may save money but undermines the human element essential for game development.”
They express concern over the future of creative industries, emphasizing the loss of jobs and the diminishing role of human creativity in game design.
Timestamp: [58:43] - [67:00]
Greg and Andy briefly touch upon several other news items, including:
They provide quick takes and personal opinions on each, maintaining the episode’s dynamic and engaging tone.
Timestamp: [63:04] - [66:52]
The hosts engage with their audience through various super chats, addressing listener comments and questions. Highlights include:
These interactions add a personal and community-driven layer to the episode, showcasing the hosts' rapport with their listeners.
Greg and Andy wrap up the episode by reiterating the key news items and encouraging listeners to engage with their content across various platforms. They emphasize the importance of staying informed and connected within the gaming community, even as the industry faces significant changes and challenges.
Greg Miller: “The world's fun falling apart, but we're happy to be here to hopefully be a distraction for it every day with you as we talk about video games and all the nerdy news you need to know about.”
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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the July 15, 2025, episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily, providing listeners and non-listeners alike with a thorough overview of the key discussions and insights shared by Greg Miller and Andy Cortez.