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Greg Miller
The nerdy news you need to know about Giant Bomb has gone independent. Nintendo speaks up about tariffs and could the Fallout TV show last for six seasons? We'll have all this and more because this is Kinda Funny Games Daily. What's up everybody? Welcome to Kinda Funny Games daily for Monday, May 12, 2024. 5. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller alongside Giant Bombs. Jeffrey Grub.
Jeff Grubb
That's right. Well, I'm here. Let's make it happen. I am one of the co owners of Giant Bomb.
Greg Miller
Oh, I'm so sorry. How many co owners of Giant Bomb are there now?
Jeff Grubb
God, there's like 50. It's crazy. There's too many. We got to do something about that. Yeah, we're, we, we, we made this happen. Fandom really helped us make it happen. We are now independent and yeah, it's. We sign an agreement to make it all happen. Basically it's in the works. But yeah, no, you're looking at us. We have everything. It's all in our hands now and that means we're going to be out in front of people making stuff and asking for support once again. So I don't know, I'm just really. I have a ton of energy. I'm ready to get to work.
Greg Miller
Well, you are story number one once again. What a difference a week makes, right? Last time you were here, Jeff Grubb is here and he's unemployed because you had quit and now you're back as the day the owner, one of the owners of Giant Bomb. So there's lots to talk about and there's no time to waste because that's obviously what everybody wants to talk about. Get your super chats in for Jeff grob over on YouTube.com kindafunnygames thank you to everybody over on twitch tv who's coming in for the first time. I see a whole bunch of first time chatters because Giant Bomb has a great audience. We have a great audience and it's chocolate and peanut butter over here. But I digress. We'll talk about in that one second alongside so much more. Because this is Kinda Funny Games Daily each and every weekday on a variety of platforms, we run you through the nerdy video game news you need to know about. If you like that, of course be part of the show live as we record on Twitch TV. Kindafunnygames YouTube.com kindafunnygames with your YouTube super chats. If you love the content here and wanna pick it up later, of course you can get it all on YouTube.com kindafunnygames. You could get it on podcast services around the globe, but most importantly you could get it with your Kinda Funny membership. Kinda Funny of course is a small business of 11 people independently making a bunch of video game content a lot like that there Giant Bomb. And of course over on patreon.com kinda funny YouTube.com kinda funnygames apple and Spotify you can pick up the Kinda Funny members. Get all of our shows ad free. Get an exclusive show called Greg Way from me and of course get good karma for supporting a small business while you get an hour long podcast from me each and every week While you get 80 episodes of content ad free each and every month. If you can support it would mean a lot to us, but if not, no big deal. Like subscribe, share and of course tell your friends about us. Housekeeping. A round of applause everybody for the tastemaker Roger Pokorny for the master of hype, Snowbike Mike, who for some reason stream 60 plus hours of death stranding over the weekend all while walking. It was a walkathon streamathon where of course y' all came out on Twitch TV kind of funny games to subscribe to support and make sure these people had to walk the entire freaking weekend. How do you got, what do you got for me there bear?
Barrett Courtney
All while walking or like partially while walking and partially while ordering dinner.
Greg Miller
Don't get mad at the elusive man. Don't get mad at the elusive man in front of his giant screen and his red robin burger.
Barrett Courtney
Somehow every time I checked in on them it was always dinner ordering time and Mike is just staring up that TV having Roger send to him what fucking menus are if you want to.
Greg Miller
Go to the subreddit, I think even on maybe retweets on the kind of funny account Barrett and eventually throw it up when you can. There's plenty of shots in fan art of Mike in front of our giant TV 10 inches away ordering. I had to talk him out in the Twitch chat of ordering a red robin pizza like what are you doing what are you doing?
Barrett Courtney
He wanted to get the pizza from Red Robin.
Greg Miller
That's what they. That's what he was starting to do. That's in the chat was telling him.
Jeff Grubb
Hey, to be fair, that's Donato's. That's Ohio grown. That's actually not bad pizza.
Greg Miller
All right.
Jeff Grubb
But no, get a burger from of course it's Ohio.
Greg Miller
You're going to come out and defend it. All right, Grub, you can't be.
Barrett Courtney
I'm also from Ohio. I would not defend Red.
Greg Miller
No, no, we're not going to do that here. We're not going to do that. After games daily today, of course we are a live talk show network. We start every day with games daily at 10am Pacific. We'll roll into the kind of funny games cast where your death stranding question desk training. Two questions will be answered by Blessing Addy. Oh yeah, Junior And Giant Bomb co owner Dan Reichert. Dan joining us and Andy and Tim to answer their questions since they haven' hours of it and of course answer your questions live. After the gamescast is the Last of Us Season 2 Episode 45 Spoiler Cast Whichever one five with me, Tim and Nick. And then after that is the stream of some bodacious video games. If you're a kind of funny member, you'll get today's Greg way later. I had to drive Jen to the airport and I didn't record it in the car like I normally do. But you'll get it, don't you worry. I'll probably end up talking about Giant Bomb. Thank you to our Patreon producers Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney Twining. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays, Aura Frames and Rocket. But we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin the show with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. Time for some new five items on the Roper Report. A pickers dozen. We begin with the biggest story in video games this year. Fandom sells Giant Bomb to independent creators. We start with the press release from Fandom. Fandom, the world's largest fan platform, is selling Giant Bomb to longtime Giant Bomb staff and gaming content creators Jeff Bacalar and Jeff Grubb. Financials of the deal were not disclosed. Giant Bomb's programming, which was paused in order to work out the terms of this deal, will resume as quickly as possible. More details will be communicated by Giant Bomb's new owners. The statement from a fandom quote. Fandom has made the strategic decision to transition Giant Bomb back to its independent roots. And the brand has been acquired by longtime staff and content creators Jeff Bacalar and Jeff Grubb, who will now own and operate the site independently. Fans are at the core of everything we do at fandom, and we're committed to not only serving them, but also supporting the creators they love. And the sale of Giant Bomb represents a natural extension of that mission. We're confident Giant Bomb is in good hands and its legacy will live on. With Jeff and Jeff. The joint statement from the Jeffs goes, giant Bomb is now owned by the people who make Giant Bomb, and it would not have been possible without the speedy efforts of fandom and our mutual agreement on what's best for fans and creators. The future of Giant Bomb is now in the hands of our supporting community, who have always had our backs, no matter what. We'll have a lot more to say about what this looks like soon, but for now, everyone can trust that all the support we receive goes directly to this team.
Jeff Grubb
Man, it was a long week, but I'm glad to be here.
Greg Miller
I don't know where you want to start tackling this one, Jeff Grubb, because I have about a gajillion questions about all of this. Both when I've talked to you off the record, long ago, when I talked to you, more recently when I talked, I ran into Dan in Montreal. There's a lot of moving parts to this that I would jump cut to Sat or no, Friday night, when you all put up your tweet, everybody, the Giant Bomb Twitter popped off or Blue sky popped off. Then all of you individually popped up with the same thing. Join us for our PAX east panel. Here's the date, here's the time. And everybody was in a flutter. And I texted Dan, dirty Dan Reichert. And of course, he would not tell me straight up what was happening. So I was left to hypothesize to the chat. And then Jen and I together while making dinner, and I was like, it's got to be that they're buying Giant Bomb. And we were both of. But business deals like that don't move this quickly. This is an outrageous amount of time for this to have gone from, hey, we have. We have questions about brand safety to hey, we're gone. To now. Hey, to now to to all of a sudden, Saturday to a standing ovation. So well deserved. At PAX east, you guys get to say you own it. How the fuck did this happen, Jeff?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I mean, I was there for all of it. I don't really know. It was such a blur. You know, the possibility of this was something that was. Was floated around the time that I was leaving fandom. But, you know, the exact details of how it go down, we can't talk about a lot of the specifics, but the general sort of timeline there was. We, I think we realized on both sides, we had the same idea about the way to solve our various, like, problems with, like, okay, giant bomb, how do we make this work? Or how do we, like, make sure that the people who love this, this site and the people on there are happy? Because that is, you know, what? Everyone seemed to seem to want that. And it would never have been possible had everyone on each side not identified that as a common, important theme of, hey, let's do what's right for this audience. So with that in mind and sort of with that PAX panel looming as a real timeline, a marker of being like, hey, if we announce there, this will be best for everybody, it really forced us to get a deal done very fast. So I was in meetings all day, every day for the entirety of last week, even in Boston. Flew into Boston for packs, and I spent most of that time in a hotel room talking to other people. But it was worth it. We got it done. And it was quite amazing to be able to go into that room and tell people that, hey, just like, you know, 24 hours earlier, we made this happen.
Greg Miller
Incredible. So, so awesome. And I think, you know, you could stop me if I'm misreading it, but even based on what you said there, based on the statements, everything else, a rare one, especially based on the week and a half it's been two weeks, shout out to fandom on this. Like, I think it would have been very easy for fandom to be a giant corporation and say, well, we own this brand and you don't matter and we're going to rebuild it, or we're going to put it on the shelf and you don't get to have it. Go make up a new name, do something else. They could have done all these things, and I don't know what negotiations were like or what those. And I'm not asking to get into specifics about them, but the fact that you were able to do this does speak to the fact that at least someone over there was like, listen, this brand is. The personalities. Like, you have to make this work this way.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I think I said this during the PAX panel, but it's true. I lived it. Their instinct for what should we do when we are faced with a situation like this? What is it that we should do. And their instinct was to turn toward, well, what is the most fan supporting solution? And this is what they. They spotted this as a possibility. They asked us, we said, let's see if we can make this happen. And now here we are. So, yeah, I agree fandom should get credit. I've heard some from some other friends who have been in similar situations. I saw publicly, Andy Robinson talking about how CVG got shut down. They asked for a similar scenario and they were denied that from, I think, a future that owned them. So, yeah, these people have been through this a number of times before and they don't get the opportunity to do this. So, yes, you're right. Shout out to fandom for making that possible.
Greg Miller
And I think, you know, that was something dirty. Dan Reichert had blue skied out as well. Skeeted. Are we still saying that he skeeted?
Jeff Grubb
We just say post now.
Greg Miller
We just post now. Okay. When he had put up the Vince McMahon, Shane McMahon, WCW WWE thing from way back in the day, which is a deep wrestling cut, but in, you know, in storyline, Vince was about to buy wcw, right? His number one predator. And then his son walked out and announced he owned wcw. The amount of times I have daydreamed, and this is not because they're bad, but because of how much it meant to me of buying IGN or buying Podcast beyond or whatever. Like, the amount of times I've daydreamed, I've always in my head done the. I'd come out to Here comes the money and something stupid like that. So to see it actually happen. My question to you, Jeff Grubb, have you had a. Have you taken the time, have you had a second to step out of this and really savor this moment? I think about, you know, it's our 10th anniversary of going independent this year. Right. I remember January 5, 2015 as a blur that month. You know, I talked about it in my PAX keynote with Ben Starr. Right. Winning the game award is really where I was able to be like, whoa, we've done something crazy here. Like, is, are you able to understand right now or is it just meetings and just planning and just trying to get this thing going?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I think if people watch that PAX panel, you might be able to see it on my face. I really have no idea. But I had been sort of in this situation of locking away feelings and emotion over here so I could just do the work. And it had been like that for, you know, more than a week, 10 days. And like, you know, people do that all the time you go, you want to, like, it wasn't something that people aren't familiar with, but I was doing this in a very hard way for a very long time. What felt like a long time to me. So in this moment when it was like this catharsis of actually getting to say it and it happening mean, it was, like, difficult to, like, go into the moment and it, like, I was actually working on that throughout the entire panel. Just, like, look into the audience, like, actually look at the people's faces instead of, like, sort of being like, oh, if I look in their faces, their emotions will be. Will reflect my emotions, and I'll have to deal with that. Like, well, now's the time I actually should and get to deal with that. So it was a process. Like, I was actually struggling with that a little bit. And it's. It's still a process of just being like, oh, can I sit here and think, oh, we did something. And yes, it is. It has begun to happen very. In a very basic way. But of course, now it's Monday, we are having meetings. It's time to get to work. And I think when I go to do a show, we did a game this morning. This morning, and it was great to be back and just seeing the chat there, that's the part where it's like, oh, yeah, there's the familiar faces. Those are the names of people that, you know, I know watch the show. Here's a ton of new people, but the vibes are there, and I can latch onto that and be like, this is the ground I get to stand on. And now let's build something even bigger here. I'm ready to do that.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I think, you know, the power of Giant Bomb has always been that community. Obviously the personality is driving it, but the community that surrounds it and, you know, to watch that community mourn, I think really the loss of you. Dan saying he wouldn't work there again, Minati saying he was gone. And then also that, like, oh, man, what happens next? It was so interesting as an outsider, right, of watching Blue sky, watching the Giant Bomb subreddit, seeing people post that they, you know, I'm unsubscribing for the first time ever. Da, da, da, da da. And then when you made this announcement, that celebration of all the Ewoks, right, of putting up this screenshot of their reactivated, they re, you know, Matt Piscatello putting out that he had reactivated his Giant Bomb subscription, which. Where can they activate that, by the way?
Jeff Grubb
Giantbomb.com join you get all the information there, please. Giantbomb.com join it was really special to.
Greg Miller
See that, you know what I mean? Especially having lived that and continuing to live that. Right. Seeing the fact that you had an audience run back to you to go do this. And I think, you know, you and I have had many a conversation about this kind of content and doing this and living this life. And I was so happy to see you on that panel at PAX east talk about that. Right. Of like, it's us, it's, it's the five of us and we are going to. You said the same thing we said to our audience. Double down on you. We are going to make the goofy ass weird content you seem to like. And if you like that, please go support this because you're our boss now kind of thing and we don't have to worry about corporate overlords or whatever. Like the SEO idea is going to be. Be.
Jeff Grubb
Yep. Yeah. And it's like I said, it's, it's a very North Star thing to have to be able to turn to them, be like, all right, when I say something dumb and I like, wouldn't it be crazy if we did that? And then 50 or 50 of you are shouting back, don't just say that. Go make it. It's like, well now, now's the time and I'm very ready to do that.
Greg Miller
Like you said, you already back at it in the content minds game mess. Mornings did pop off this morning. Of course. You can watch that Monday through Friday, 8:00am Correct?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we do Bomb Cast on Tuesday, so Monday and then Wednesday through Friday. But yes, that's right.
Greg Miller
Of course you had a brand new sponsor. Who was it?
Jeff Grubb
We had a sponsor. It's a evil corporation called Kind of Funny Games came in as our very first sponsor. I wouldn't have it any other way. Greg, thank you so much, man. That ruled.
Greg Miller
Thank you, Jeff. You know, I mean again, when you guys announced, well, talked to us privately that this was all happening, that was the first thing, you know, we, we hung up after giving our two cents of advice, me and Tim and I was like, we need to sponsor this. Right? Because I think it's such a crazy full circle thing for us to be 10 years into our journey. Right. And so much of it is this year. Looking back at 2015, looking back at starting this and seeing you guys really take this step which isn't the same, but is the same. But you know what I mean? Like it's so similar. I guess in the long it's the.
Jeff Grubb
2025 version of it, right? Yeah.
Greg Miller
And, you know, to celebrate that and be a part of that and, and be there for you, however we can be. Of course, I don't think you'll need it. You have such a great community. But we're happy to be there and of course, hopefully see more of this, you know, you know how much we love and respect all of you, how much we like working with you. So to see you be able to branch out here on your own and do that and hopefully have more of us over, more of you over, it'll be great stuff.
Jeff Grubb
Yep. Yeah, I. That's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking forward to. And it's. I, I think what we've all realized over these last 10 years, really, since, since you guys made it happen, is the idea of. Of competing websites is gone. It is very much a. Like, I'm sure you see this where. Or maybe even it's happened to you. Like, I've listened to podcast and content creators and then I sort of just like find myself phasing away from them and go. I'm like, looking for somewhere else to go. And then eventually I'll phase back into them and being able to, like, have a large community of people making kind of similar content. Content where it's like, oh, here's a different vibe, a different flavor where people can back. Bounce back and forth between. I think that's healthy and good for everybody. So I'm ready just to support everyone in the scene and keep us all going as best as we possibly can. Because at this point, we've learned if we don't do it, no one else will. We cannot rely on corporations come into this space anymore. And I don't, I don't blame them for balking at this space, like, looking at it be like, how do we make this make sense? Like, we're all trying to figure that out too, but I think it's best if we figure it out together on our own, 100%.
Greg Miller
You've got a bunch of super chats here. Jordan White says ecstatic to see you back on top, Jeff. I knew Greg from ign, but Giant Bomb is where I first heard about. Kind of funny. Glad to see it come full circle and the overall love between all of you keep the crossovers coming, we hope.
Jeff Grubb
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
Greg Miller
So, like, you talked a little bit about, you know, your plans. Okay, you got game mess, you got the bomb cast. What are the other shows we're doing? And then, you know, SGF's not far away. You guys usually have a pretty cool couch there.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, it's definitely. That was one of the reasons I was almost late to the show, was in a meeting about exactly that. Yeah. Other shows, like, hey, yeah, Blight Club's back on Wednesday. There's new season. Mike Minati is starting the next Bad Game. It's our Bad game show where me, Dan Reichert, and Mike Minati take turns. The other two pick the bad game for the third person who's playing, and we take turns playing through the entirety of the Bad game. We've done Bubsy 3D Daikatana. We've done. Mike's done several Mortal Kombat games.
Barrett Courtney
Superman 64 is a standout as well.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Yes.
Jeff Grubb
Dan did Superman 64. Lots of great episodes of that. And it's one of our favorite things to do. That's back on Wednesday with a new season. So tune into that. That'll be in the afternoon sometime.
Barrett Courtney
I hear Minati is going to look real cool, dude.
Jeff Grubb
He's gonna look so cool. Oh, first, we also wear costumes. Yeah, yeah. For exactly. The person who's playing has to dress up as one of the characters from the game as well. So there will be a costume reveal and a game reveal all in the new season. But you're right, Summer Game Fest is coming up fast. And when I first joined Giant Bomb, like the future of doing a nightly show at, you know, E3 Summer Game Fest, whatever we were calling it at the time, what was in question? Because it was definitely something that, like, you know, Ryan Davis started, and in a lot of ways, yes, absolutely. And then Jeff Gerstman carried that forward in such an awesome way. Also.
Greg Miller
Great. But not late.
Jeff Grubb
Exactly. I. And I would watch those things and just be like, yeah, man, this is it. Like, just getting all these cool people from the industry in a place where they can just be real with one another and talk. I always super respected it. So when I got a chance to go there and say, and people say, hey, what do you want to do? What's important to you? I'm like, well, I think we should keep doing the couch. And they're like, well, if you want to do it, make it happen. And being empowered to do that was great. And now it's like, okay, it's on our own. And it's going to be even more challenging because we're. We're kind of figuring things out without this. The back. That this is the bad thing of not having a corporation with a corporate credit card where we could just swipe and figure out the money later. We're going to have to do this on our own. But it's still important to me. I still want to make it happen. Yeah. Jesse Fatelli is going to bring the inflatable hammock and maybe I'll just lay. Hammock.
Barrett Courtney
That's the word we're going to call this thing.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah. I think that's how it's marketed on Amazon.
Greg Miller
All right.
Jeff Grubb
I'm 42. I've looked at. I've looked for all kinds of hammocks, man.
Greg Miller
I don't want to know about that one. Inky mess. Super chats and says happy to see good things happen for good people. Do you need a volunteer executive assistant? Jeff Grob.
Jeff Grubb
I need a lot of things. We'll see what we can make happen.
Greg Miller
There's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. 62 Mike says hope you guys collab more in the future. Kind of funny. Cross musk. Giant bomb heart. I hope so. 262 Mike again. Dan on Gamescast right after this.
Jeff Grubb
And then you're gonna play that among us 3D. We were like looking for a chance to play that. That would be a good time.
Greg Miller
Yeah, sure.
Jeff Grubb
That happened next couple of weeks. Yeah.
Greg Miller
Yeah. You let us know. Yeah. We'd be down for that.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Show coming up. Okay. And then let me come on the couch again. Not that way. That sounded weird phrases. Okay. First off, don't get. You can't. Your brand currently is that Mike Minati jerked off at a Rainforest cafe. Don't turn it around on me. They. It's.
Jeff Grubb
He doesn't even like Greg. I get it.
Barrett Courtney
You saw this couch and you had feelings.
Greg Miller
I'm ready to come on him.
Jeff Grubb
Mike doesn't like that joke. And yet he went to Disney and couldn't help himself. As soon as he saw one, he's like, this will get me attention. And took multiple pictures in front of a rainforest.
Greg Miller
Love the attention. And then final one for right now comes from Propaganda Panda, who said super chats and says, join us in the giant bomb discords. Nerds. And there are plenty of nerds here that I'm sure will flock to go do that. So don't worry about that one.
Jeff Grubb
Come hang with us, guys.
Greg Miller
Sorry, Mr. Nice Guy. Rise says if we don't do a kind of giant funny bomb collaboration T shirt, frankly don't know what we're even doing here anymore. So happy for Jeffy and the team. We are happy for you.
Jeff Grubb
Thank you. Yeah, we're figuring out merch too.
Greg Miller
We'll see a lot of moving parts once you're out there on your own. I guess that's my before I want to move on to other video game news, whatever, blah, blah. But for you taking over, like, I'm so shocked that you had the funding up. Of course giantbomb.com join right away because I thought you'd end up doing Patreon when you went out there. I didn't think you'd be able to swing your own thing right out the gate and stuff like that. How hard has that been to get the dot com into a state to show and tell?
Jeff Grubb
Well, that's been the biggest challenge because the Giant Bomb was funded or founded originally because there was this technology that they had to build a website and build a wiki and all this stuff. But it's been, you know, it's been in the fridge for a while and now a lot of stuff is built on top of it. So there's going to be some issues with us getting the dot com to work in the ways we need it to. And yeah, so that. That's going to be the biggest headache we have. In fact, if anyone has it, we engineers or ideas, let me know. But yeah, so we're still working with fandom on that side of things. They are helping us out like by hosting the website and they're going to keep. Continue. They're going to continue to help us with that for a while. That is like there is a little bit of a ticking time bomb.
Greg Miller
There's like, get out of the. Get out of mom's attic. All right. You know, it's time you guys branched out. Got your own dot com.
Jeff Grubb
That's all we got. Yeah.
Greg Miller
And then final super chat on this thing. Bander SN says not my idea, but giant bomb versus kind of funny fantasy critic 2026. I have seen that making the rounds on both of our subreddits.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I. We love Fantasy Critic. We think you guys did an excellent job on that too. So I think when I heard you guys, I'm like, we're doing that for sure. I think. I think we would kill you. I think we would trounce you. I think you guys would be done.
Greg Miller
Have you met Barrett? He's got no life. All right? Trust me. No way.
Jeff Grubb
I think me and Bear both got a ballotra last year for like a dollar each. And I was like, yeah, that's. That's my.
Greg Miller
Because he listened to you. That's the thing. The problem is he listens to the bomb cast. That's how he would know.
Barrett Courtney
Another Giant Bomb fam over here. Shout out to Janet Shoah, who, you know, talked about that game for like four weeks straight. And then also, fuck you, Miller. I got a life.
Greg Miller
All right, Former's got no life. We'll see who wins.
Barrett Courtney
Right now I am winning, but I'm also checked out because my team is filled up and I can't do anything for the rest of the year. So I'm probably not winning.
Greg Miller
I like that idea. We should look into that next year. But of course that'll be next year. Not right now. Because right now we're living in the moment. All right, we're talking about independent content creators like giant bomb. Giantbomb.com join. Go support the five of them. They're amazing. They're doing that. And of course, support us. Kind of funny if you didn't know. Kinda Funny is an 11 person small business all about live talk shows all day long at Twitch TV, kindafunnygames and YouTube.com kindafunnygames we're doing shows about video games, reviews, previews, questions and answers. We're doing reviews of the Last of Us and spoiler cast we're talking about andor we're doing in review for Alien vs. Predator. We're putting out all sorts of crazy content each and every weekday for your amusement. And if you really like that, please pick up a Kinda Funny membership. You get it on patreon.com kinda funny, YouTube.com kinda funnygames Apple and Spotify. You get all of our shows ad free. You get. And that's of course more than 80amonth or no. Yeah, that's right. More than 20 a week. 80amonth and you'd get your daily dose of me, Greg Miller and a 15 to 20 minute podcast. I do each and every day, which is an hour long podcast every week for you. And of course you get good karma for supporting us, so please consider doing it. But right now you're not using your membership benefits. So here's a word from our sponsors.
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On the Roper Report. Nintendo President concerned about potential impact of US tariffs on Switch to demand this is Viritri townsend over at IGN. Nintendo just released its financial results for the 2025 fiscal year April 2024 to March 2025. And in the accompany online press conference on May 8th, Nintendo President Shuntaru Furukawa shed more light on the company's high expectations for the Switch 2 as well as the obstacles that could imp its success, including US tariffs as the June 5 launch date approaches. Gosh darn, is that close. Jeff Gro do you ever stop and think about how close you are to Switch to now?
Jeff Grubb
I. It's. I'm waiting for it, but yes, I can't stop thinking about it.
Greg Miller
How many did you get? You get. You getting a lot for the whole family? What are you doing?
Jeff Grubb
I actually do have two ordered and I think I still can. I still buy the one Nintendo offered me because I do have a niece and a nephew that are graduating. I was thinking about getting them a Switch to.
Barrett Courtney
Did you get the email this weekend?
Greg Miller
I did not.
Jeff Grubb
Yes, I got the email. Yeah, you gotta play your Switch enough, all right? I mean, just be a real gamer. It's.
Greg Miller
I thought it was like 30 hours lifetime though, right? Like it should have been cleared 50.
Barrett Courtney
You probably only hit like.
Greg Miller
I'm reopening it. Yeah, no, I got, I bought. No, nothing in here. I don't like that one bit. Back to it. Whatever. I didn't.
Barrett Courtney
I didn't get one either. Greg, it's fine. And I definitely put in.
Jeff Grubb
I'm the top percentile Nintendogs over here.
Greg Miller
As June 5 launch date approaches, demand for the Switch 2 continues to boom, with Nintendo's official pre order lotteries being massively oversubscribed, especially in Japan. Nintendo is, quote, working to strengthen their production to meet demand and are forecasting Switch 2 hardware sales of 15 million units and software sales of 45 million units worldwide in the 2026 fiscal year, which of course is April 2025 to March 2026. Not only that, the Japanese game giant is hoping that the Switch to launch effect will boost the overall sales for fiscal year 2026 by 63.1% and then approximately $13.04 billion in financial profits, boosted as well to $2.05 billion. However, the President's speech revealed concerns about the US market and the future profitability of the Switch 2 as a next gen console with extra features and improvements over the original. The Switch 2 is more expensive than its predecessor, quote, the unit sales price is high and there are corresponding hurdles. However, we are aiming for a launch on par with the first Switch, he said. These corresponding hurdles include worries about the US which has been Nintendo's biggest market for the Switch one. The President raised concerns about the possible impacts of Trump's tariffs on the Switch 2 and the American people's spending power. In the online press conference, he stated that the tariff policy will impact Nintendo's profits by tens of billions of yen. He added, quote, if prices are daily, I'm sorry, if prices of daily necessities like food increase because of the tariffs, then people will have less money to spend on game consoles. If we were to adjust the price of the Switch 2 in response to the tariffs, this could decrease demand, end quote Nintendo revealed more details about how it is factoring in the U.S. tariffs in its shareholders Q and a summary published on the evening of May 9th. QUOTE we have made this forecast based on the assumption that tariffs on Japan, Vietnam and Cambodia will be 10% and tariffs on China will be 145%, Furukawa said. He noted that Switch hardware for the North American market is primarily made in Vietnam, while some Nintendo products including accessories and amiibos are made in China. Nintendo expects that tariffs will mainly affect hardware and is assuming that physical software will not be affected as it doesn't fall under any of the tariff categories announced by the US Government last month month Although Nintendo's basic policy on tariffs is to treat them as a cost and factor them into prices, Furukawa also emphasized the need to sustain the momentum of Switch to sales and to make sure that the new console is widely adopted. Therefore, Nintendo will carefully consider various factors when changing any pricing, including its acceptability to customers. Jeffrey Grubb how fucked are we?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, so look, we are definitely still fucked on a lot of this stuff. I think we're about to get the the shelves being empty for a lot of products here in the next couple of weeks. So we're fucked in a lot of ways when it comes to the Switch 2 and Nintendo's concerns. Things Continue to change fast. And the uncertainty certainly is one of the major problems for a company like Nintendo as they try to plan for a launch of a console and try to like create messaging to consumers so they could feel good about selling a product at a certain price. And they know how they need to frame that and all that stuff. It's impossible to do when, when things aren't certain and things have changed again. So I think it was announced earlier today that China and the United States are pausing the tariffs. Now that doesn't mean they're going all the way down to zero or anything like that. In fact, really, this is wild because the markets are like thrilled about this. They're very excited. And yet the tariffs on China for the next 90 days are going to be 30%, which is kind of around the number we were talking about when like the campaign was ending. It's like, well, he's going to do tariffs. It could be as much as 30%. That's about, you know, the, you know, it really cuts into the profit margin for a company like Nintendo still. So they will start to deal with that. But 30% is way better than 100, 145%, 1,000%.
Greg Miller
Right. Which is one of the stupid things that we're sitting here saying like, oh man, okay, at least it's reasonable when it's still not reasonable.
Jeff Grubb
Exactly. Yes. We've been worked into this a little bit for sure. Yeah. But still that's where we're at, where this is something that feels at least workable, like a company can, can work with that. Now the problem is it's still only a 90 day pause. This dude loves tariffs, so he's going to come back to them if he gets bored with something else. But in the moment it does feel like, does feel like the market reaction and a lot of the fears that happen. I won't go into it with like, you know, the US Dollar being, you know, deprecated by a lot of organizations around the world and how that, that's a very scary thing for a federal government in the United States.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Jeff Grubb
But that does feel like he had that explained to him and at least he found out that that stove he touched that everyone told him was hot, actually is hot. Yeah, he's not going to remember it for very long, but maybe that buys us some time.
Greg Miller
Yeah, of course. Just to give you a quick glance at that New York Times reporting today, US and China agree to temporarily slash tariffs in bid to defuse trade war. The United States and China on Monday took a step to defuse the trade war between the two. The world's two largest economies agreeing to temporarily reduce, well, the punishing tariffs that have imposed on each other. They've imposed on each other. The move by the United States after President Trump had repeatedly declared that he would not lower tariffs without concessions from China represented an acknowledgment of the costs of an all out trade war with China. Despite the White House's bluster, the Trump administration ultimately backed off for now from its steepest terrorists and agreed to hold more formal talks with Beijing after companies and consumers started showing signs of economic strain. To your point though, it's a temporary pause and I think that's like I said something, I guess when the tariffs first got announced and Nintendo delayed the pre order. I don't know, somewhere in that conversation I said, I was like, I just feel bad for Nintendo that they announced this on the day Trump announced this. And it was like, ah, don't feel bad for this corporation, don't feel bad. And I'm like, well again, I don't feel bad for the corporation as much as the people who worked for years on this goddamn Nintendo Switch and got it to the cheapest price they could while still making a profit were like, this is gonna be great and people are gonna love this toy we're making. And then they put it, this shit happens. And then now there's still a moving target like you're talking about. This is a 90 day pause, so it's not even they can lock it in. I thought it was so telling when they finally put up the pre orders and were like, hey, this is the launch price of the Nintendo Switch 2. They kept saying this is what it's launching at. Which to me leaves the door open of course, that if the world gets crazy after the launch, they're gonna have to change this. Is this the cheapest we'll ever get a Nintendo Switch 2 for?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I mean the Nintendo Switch 1 didn't go down in price. And the reality of that market is very different than this one.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Jeff Grubb
And none of those realities have changed really. The, you know, component costs, people lining up to get those components for a variety of different consumer products, keeping those prices high for a very long time, you know, challenging labor markets around the world, whatever, all those reasons are still there. And then this is on top of that, and then on top of that being tariffs, and then on top of the tariffs, the certainty is out the window. So it's just so hard to be in this situation. I agree, I feel really bad for anyone trying to launch a product, something or especially something as high profile as the Switch 2, which everyone's going to have an opinion on. And not everyone's going to understand all the nuance, nor should they have to, of course. So yeah, people are mad about the high price, I get it. But boy, I feel bad for everyone involved.
Greg Miller
Yeah, what a shitty situation to be put in for no reason other than a moron. But I digress.
Jeff Grubb
Just a big dumb bitch.
Greg Miller
Just a big old dumb fucking idiot.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Let's move on to happier news. Number three Fallout TV Star says this character plot this character's plot has been planned for up to at least season five or six. This is the one, the only Chris Scullion at vgc, another news outlet you should support. Over at VGC News, subscribe to their Patreon exactly right. Jordan Midler, a huge person. He's so big. He's big. You know what I mean?
Jeff Grubb
I'm scared.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I know, I know. We called him once and he held up cans to his head and I'll tell you, you can just see, you can just see how large this man is. Of course. There's a Super Chat question for you. How many seasons do you want from the Fallout TV show? Super chat over on YouTube.com kindafunnygames to be part of the show with your opinion. Anyways, back to this One of the lead actors in the Fallout TV series says his character's arc ends around season five or six, suggesting its creators envision a long run for the show. Season two of the Fallout show just wrapped production last week, meaning it's still it may still be some time before it appears on Amazon Prime Video. However, during a recent panel appearance at Comic Con, Liverpool actor Aaron Moten, who plays Maximus in the show, said his character's story is supposed to end three or four seasons later. I was told when I sat down to do the series that we would have a starting point and they gave me the end point, moten explained in a clip posted to the show's Reddit page. Back to the quote and that end point hasn't changed. But it is season five, six for the end point point. We've always known that we're going to take our time with the development of our characters. End quote. Moten's comments are obviously not confirmation that the series will last until season five or six, because numerous factors could result in its cancellation before then. Jeff Grubb how many seasons of a Fallout show do you want?
Jeff Grubb
I I, you know, it's, it's tough because media has changed in terms of how you consume TV so much over time. And it's like, I think at one point. Point I would have been like, man, you should try to get to seven every time. A good show should be like, if it can go to seven seasons. But that's definitely not been the case recently. I think a bunch of really good episodes over five to six seasons. I think five, honestly, is where I would be. So you don't have to drag things on. You don't have to try to. And you know, I hate the use of the term filler for TV show. Everything matters to these characters. All of this character development, it all fills in something in the end, but you don't want to try to elongate when you don't have something else to actually back that up. So if they have enough for five to six seasons, I think they should just go to go to five and really just pack it in there and make it as good as possible.
Greg Miller
I love the idea of having an end point. I wonder if that's his character's endpoint or the show's endpoint. I feel like what always happens for me with the shows, I love that, then turn to trash, is that you have a great idea for a season. Season two is season three. And then it becomes that, well, we got to keep going. We got to keep going. And that's when you get Smallville the witch season. You're like, what the fuck is this? Why is which right now? This is awful. Or Lex leaves the show and like, we're going to power through. Like, that was a bad decision as well. I digress. So, yeah, for me, with this, like, I loved Fallout season one so much. I'm so excited for season two. I hold that hope that the Fallout 3 Remastered, you know, Oblivion treatment drops alongside Fallout season two. That's my prediction. That's my hope. But yeah, I'd want them to go as long as they're going to be able to keep up that caliber of it. And I don't. And for me, it's so much not about necessarily one person, as much as that world, which I think is an ace up their sleeve of don't do the Walking Dead thing. I don't need three or four spin offs, but have it be that Ella Pernell winds down, Maximus winds down. We go off, but we found these new characters that we're still going to chase and find and go with.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, you're right. There's. There's so much lore to pull from and so Many fun things. I mean the just the Vault experience experiments themselves, they've done a lot with that already. But that is kind of an endless well at a certain for a TV show. So yeah, I really hope they get a chance to. To lock onto the ones that they think are the best for telling their story and then do the most with those as possible.
Greg Miller
What did you think of the first season?
Jeff Grubb
I really enjoyed the first season. It was. It's definitely something where I was. I had relatively high expectations actually, because I think I was. As I was watching the trailers, I was looking at like this looks like it should actually work. Finding a tone. But that like my high expectations for TV these days is. Is pretty low overall. Like, you know, as long as you're just entertaining, we're going to be good. And then I think it did enough to get me like be like, oh no, these are characters you're actually going to care about, which is if you get there, I'll watch your TV show. That's all I really need is characters I can care about. And they did that. They really nailed that.
Greg Miller
100. Yeah. I was surprised by how much, even as a Fallout fan, how much I love that show. Like, I think we're also trained to be. All right, it's a video game thing. Are they being respectful? Is it actually gonna work that. But I adored that. And so I'm super stoked for season two and maybe through season six. CJ splits on Super Chats and says, feels like good TV shows top out at eight or I'm sorry, at five. Season five maximum. So right there, right in line with what you think, Jeff.
Jeff Grubb
Five to six. Yeah.
Greg Miller
And then Kebab says, I implore grub. Watch the original namek art in Dragon Ball Z and tell us again there's no such thing as filler. And then he says, jk or they.
Jeff Grubb
Say, okay, listen, when I was talking about art, I don't mean anime, of course. Come on, everybody.
Barrett Courtney
No, no.
Jeff Grubb
Listen, watch that Jeff. Jeff's Bizarre adventure panel from PAX as well that Jeff Bacalar and the crew over there did. And then come back to me and defend anime.
Greg Miller
I don't watch. Lucy James content number four. Number four on the Roper Report. Tony Hawk will campaign all he can for a remaster of Tony Hawk's Underground. This is the big man. Him, Jordan Miller of VGC Super Chat. Question, how many Tony Hawk game remakes do you want? Back to Miller's reporting. Tony Hawk has said he will, quote, campaign all he can, end quote, for a remake of Tony Hawk's Underground series. Tony Hawk's Underground was the fifth game from the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater lineage, taking the series in a new direction with a story focused campaign and more cutscenes. The game is a fan favorite for its take on skateboarding culture and its move away from the arcade style goals of earlier games. Speaking at a preview event for the upcoming game, Tony Hawk was asked about the potential for remakes of the old games beyond the original four Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games beyond. I always have aspirations, Hawk told Screenrant. It's not up to me. Generally, I'll campaign all I can, but I'm working with a much bigger company that's a lot smarter than me. Hawk went on to say that an underground remaster hasn't been discussed internally and that the success of Tony hawk's pro skater 3. Four could be a deciding factor in bringing back future games games. One major obstacle in remaking the Tony Hawk's Underground series. That has been avoided, however, as it was announced this weekend that Bam Margera, after months of speculation, will appear in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater three plus four. You gotta have Bam. You gotta have Bam. What are we talking about? Jeff, where are you? You know I work with Tim, so I'm. I. All I hear is how great Tony Hawk is. Pro skater this, pro skater that. Da da da da. For me, my love of the Tony Hawk games begins with Thug. Thug is the one where I was like, oh, this is what I actually want. I wasn't one for high score chasing, doing this combo that, blah blah blah. I liked the story business of it. Where do you come down on the pantheon of Tony Hawk games?
Jeff Grubb
Oh, give me Tim Getty so I can talk to a real gamer. Come on, let's go. Tony X Pro Skater has been like. I think when I first played the first Tony Ox Pro Skater, I'm like, oh, this is what a video game should be. And I don't think my opinion has changed ever since.
Greg Miller
Wow.
Jeff Grubb
Skater two, three. These are like perfect video games to me.
Greg Miller
Well, Thug was better than all of them, but here's Tim.
Jeff Grubb
I continue to like the series and Thug is great as well. Hey, Tim Gettys, come on, man. How good is Tony Hawk's Pro Skater?
F
All of them. Are you kidding me? My favorite games of all time. Congratulations, Grub. I'm incredibly proud of you boys. I don't know why I'm pulled in here, but now I'm kind of putting this all together. Tony Hawk fighting for a Thug remaster. I Love, love it. You love to see it. He's managed to make things happen time and time again. I can't believe we're where we're at. I just spent the last couple days playing Tony Hawk's 3 and 4 remake. They are literally perfect. But we're gonna do my preview of that on Friday with Jake Baldino joining us. So I'm very excited for that. But, sorry, what's the question here?
Jeff Grubb
You know, I needed to talk to someone who really gets Tony Hawk. I couldn't just go through Greg, so I needed to just get you here and you tell me, hey, how good is Tony Hawk? Hawk?
F
It's incredibly, incredibly good. And here's the thing. As I was walking on, I heard you saying that like two, three, four perfect games. And I absolutely agree with you when it comes to just the. The gameplay and the arcade nature and just this is what a damn video game is. Tony Hawk 3, to this day, one of the highest rated Metacritic games of all time. And it's like, yeah, it freaking deserves it back then and now. There is something about Thug though, that I think. Yes, is different, Doug, in terms of the gameplay mechanics just grew off of four, which is where I think the mechanics peak peaked and was just like, cool. What if we added it so much more open areas and actually a compelling story and characters unlike four. That was like such a beta test for that kind of open, just nothing gameplay style. So, yeah, I think that undeniably Thug is the. The most special of all of them. But I also think that it is one that would need a remake that's different than the remakes we're getting here. Like it would need to, in my opinion, be a full reboot of. Of the thesis of what Tony Hawk's Underground is. But you can't just take this game and do it again. It wouldn't work the same.
Jeff Grubb
Thanks. Thank you, Tim. You said all the things I was going to say, but even better, I appreciate it.
F
There we go. There we go.
Greg Miller
I'll.
F
I'll let you get back here, Greg. Very warm.
Jeff Grubb
I.
Greg Miller
Too bad he's not the game Showdown season three champion though. Am I right?
Jeff Grubb
Well, that's right. I can't take that away from you.
Greg Miller
Can't take away from me. People tried. They couldn't do it.
Jeff Grubb
He's. He's right. The Thug will have to be reworked. I think a Thug Pro sort of like obviously Thug Pro is a mod thing. People go online and play with each other. Yeah, not like that. And I think, and I think like kind of taking inspiration from that being like, okay, we did 1, 2, we did 3 and 4. Now let's just rework it for maybe a more online hangout version of this game where then you can go do the thug stuff separately. I think that could work.
Greg Miller
Fair enough. My then before we transition out of this, would you. Question for you, what's your take on skate? Are you excited for skate this year?
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, I, I've enjoyed skate in the past, but I'm. I'm like. It was definitely. I was weird because I liked Tony Hawk better than skate and then I like 1080 more than like SSX 1080 snowboarding. More technical, a little bit more similar to skate.
Greg Miller
Okay.
Jeff Grubb
Oh yeah.
Barrett Courtney
Barrett, do you like Guitar Hero more than you like Rock Band?
Jeff Grubb
I do, yes. So it's like weird. There's no consistency there.
Barrett Courtney
No, it's no. All of that is very consistent in terms of you like the kind of more arcadey feel than like the more semi style stuff.
Jeff Grubb
Right. That's. But that's why like for snowboarding, I like the more the semi one 10 is a little bit more simulated than SSX. But. But I am. I'm excited for this new skate Greg because they are going to go with that hangout online session. Like you are a bunch of bums skating all day and one friend could be doing the Mario Maker of like creating a level for you while you guys try some tricks and they can get off the board and. And just fall at any point and make some just fun madness. I think that's a really good idea for a skateboarding game in 2025.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I'll be interested to see how it goes. I was a skate guy. I like skate more. I mean I, I like thug, like I said. But it was a big deal obviously when this happened and skate originally pop. So to have it return, I'm excited about obviously. There's been so much question about monetization. Free to play. Like, what does it need to be a success? I don't know. But like I'm just excited to get my hands on it.
Jeff Grubb
Yep, me too.
Greg Miller
But guess what, Jeff. Me getting my hands on skate would be big news. All right. And frankly, we got giant bomb going independent. We got 10 years of kind of funny. We got skate happening. That's all. I just don't. That's too much big news for me. I don't need that much big news. If I wanted smaller news, say the tiniest news I needed to know about, where would I go?
Jeff Grubb
Well, you'd go to our last Story the WE News channel where we cover all the small news items you need to know about.
Greg Miller
Number five WE News from Steven Totilo's game file. In an email titled updates to Nintendo account, user Agreement and Nintendo privacy Policy, Nintendo warns it may brick Switch systems whose users bypass, modify, decrypt, defeat, tamper with the games and services. This is a big brouhaha over the weekend, Jeff. Nintendo's basically just don't be bad. We won't be bad. We're only gonna do this if you're bad.
Jeff Grubb
Seems draconian, but hey, yeah, I get it.
Greg Miller
From Wesley Yinpool@ign.comClaire Obscure Expedition 33's developer has released a patch across all platforms. The update update makes a long list of fixes and crucially balanced changes including nerfing Clair Obscura's most game breaking build. The build in question was for the young fencer Melel.
Tim Geddes
What was Male.
Greg Miller
Male and a sword called Medellum. Something wrong with his medulla Mablongadam, you know what I mean? Which unlocks a virtuos stance that deals 200% bonus damage. Players were combining this with ability stacking and the Stendall skill which deals extreme single target void damage to dish out billions of damage. Enough to kill the final boss in just one hit. Let people have fun.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Come on.
Jeff Grubb
Let the freaks be their freaks.
Greg Miller
They want to go do all this stacking stuff. Let them live.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Did you play. Where did you play Expedition Jeffy?
Jeff Grubb
I. I started it and then all this started to happen. So I haven't had much time to actually play video games. But I. I really, really like that game. I think it's really cool.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I want to get back to it. Indiana Jones and the Great Circle is now Steam deck verified. And then I added this bullet point. The biggest news of the day. Probably not even deserving of WE news. But it came late. Are you ready players? This is a press release from Krispy Kreme. Ready players? Krispy Kreme today announced an amazing collaboration with Bandai Namco Entertainment America Incorporated for Pac Man's 45th anniversary celebrate celebration. Celebrating the global cultural icon with all new donuts inspired by the classic game. Fans will want to chomp these new donuts before it's game over. Available beginning today for a limited time at participating US shops. The Krispy Kreme Kraus Pac man collection features three new donuts and a nostalgic custom Pac man game dozen box. That's the sweetest Pac man level ever.
Barrett Courtney
Who are we sending over to pick this up.
Greg Miller
I can't believe I'm so upset that it came in so late. I would have picked them up on the way here. We work by Krispy Kreme.
Jeff Grubb
This happened.
Greg Miller
God damn.
Jeff Grubb
Any excuse to get Krispy Kreme. I'll take it. Let's go.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Yeah. This is definitely the push I needed. If they don't show up today, I will bring them in tomorrow. Of course.
Jeff Grubb
Looks so good.
Greg Miller
And that is the end of we news. We asked people watching live on Twitch TV kind of funny games and YouTube.com/kind of funny games to keep us honest with you are wrong. But nobody submitted anything so we were perfect game today, Jeff. We also of course ask everybody to super chat with your questions, comments, concerns for us, the guests. Whatever it may be about the game's news, we still have plenty to get in here. Postman Dan just says hi, Grub. Hi Greg. Good job today. Thank you.
Jeff Grubb
Thank you.
Greg Miller
We like that. We like that. Christian says, ask Jeff how can he shit on anime after watching Gaara versus Lee fight.
Jeff Grubb
You're right. I'm a bad person. That's so good.
Greg Miller
Then Mad Rock says, note about the Stendahl Nerf. It still hits like a fucking truck after a 40% damage nerve. So that makes sense.
Jeff Grubb
Billions aren't broke. I would take 40% of billions.
Greg Miller
Whiskey Samurai says be careful putting these giant bomb guys on content. They might steal your company from you. Jk. Love you, Grub. And Dan Parentheses and the rest of the Mount Bomb More crew. Oh, I like that. Insatiable Mount Bomb More. Now you're going to become the villain. Now you're buying up everybody. You buy us, you buy Mid Max. You let you start like. Well, don't. Don't curse. Okay.
Jeff Grubb
Don't talk about giant bomb face on Unicron from that Transformers movie. Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah.
Greg Miller
Koba writes in and says you should be interviewing the guys who freaked Norman Reedus over the weekend. These Giant bomb guys don't look like they freaked it the way those jabronis did. Again, 60 plus hours from Roger and Mike. Streaming death stranding. Thank you so much, gentlemen. I hope you are resting. Or maybe that was you who just came in. I don't know what's going on over there. I see Weiner says in a super chat, please don't fire Mike and Roger. They were going for a level 27 hype train, whatever that is. Apparently if they were calling everyone in the company, I'm the Nick answered but was about to do comedy. I answered and Was brushing my teeth to go to bed. So that's the dual lives of the founders right there of Nick and me. I had gotten Ben to sleep and it was time to go to bed and I had to walk outside to answer this phone call at night like, what the hell is happening? And then they all apologized dramatically.
Barrett Courtney
Yeah, I heard they called everybody, but I never got a call, so.
Greg Miller
So, you know, you're in a silent society, you go right to a voicemail. I guess Mac and Awesome corrects me. Mike did get the pizza. The quote goes, this thing smells great, takes a bite. This shit is nasty. Don't buy Red Robin pizza, buy a burger.
Jeff Grubb
Come on.
Barrett Courtney
He also got a burger from what I saw.
Greg Miller
Fair enough. God, this man in his resting heart rate, he's gonna die. 62 Mike super chats and says hearing that Greg and Tim gave you guys advice puts a lump in my throat. Love you all. We love you.
Jeff Grubb
It was very nice, very kind. We really appreciate it.
Greg Miller
We appreciate you guys. And then the final super chat of the day comes from bagman15 when I assume that this is from the wee hours of the 60 hour long stream. What do you believe are the top three breakfast juices in America? Hashtag freakin. I mean, orange juice number one. Right. We're not going to be, we're not going to clever here.
Jeff Grubb
No way. I don't. Yeah, it's OJ's number one. I guess if you separate pulp or no pulp, those can just be one and two. Honestly.
Greg Miller
Yeah, very good call. Very good call.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah.
Greg Miller
And then beyond that, I don't know. Grapefruit. I'm not drinking juice to begin with.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, grapefruit juice probably is the one. I was like going to go apple juice, but for breakfast. People go grapefruit. Yeah, I guess maybe like you make like your own juice with like some celery and shit. I don't know.
Greg Miller
Oh no, then, then we're getting into smoothie territory and stuff.
Jeff Grubb
Yeah, maybe, maybe they just go, yeah, smoothie, not a juice.
Greg Miller
No. If it's got texture to it like that. Right.
Jeff Grubb
Just go straight into smoothie.
Barrett Courtney
Xbox here in the chat says real pineapple juice is perfection. I fuck with the pineapple juice.
Jeff Grubb
Pineapple juice, absolutely. Yeah.
Greg Miller
What I used to do at IGN when I was dirt poor is I would buy cans of Dole pineapple and that would be my breakfast at IGN where I had a can opener and I would open it there, I would drink the juice and then I would eat the pineapple and that would be my Breakfast at work.
Jeff Grubb
And then how was. You had dental coverage. Right, because that just sounds like all sugar.
Greg Miller
Yeah, no, I did, I did. I still do. It never caught up to me that way. Perhaps the Pop Tarts did when they finally introduced. Well, first off, they gave free snacks when we moved to the new office, and that was because it was a MySpace building. And then a week and a half into being there, they had to send out a message to all the IGN editors saying, don't hoard snacks at your desk. They're up there for free. And then when we didn't do that, they moved to subsidized snacks where they put them in and sold them for 25 cents. And that's when me and Nick Colin would go up there every day when they restocked the Pop Tarts and buy all the Pop Tarts in the machine for 25 cents. Because that was such a steal, such a deal.
Jeff Grubb
God, you're such a leader in this space.
Greg Miller
You know, I'll tell you something. If Giant Bomb needs to know how to stretch a dollar, you're talking to the right guy. Order up some cans of pineapple, you'll be all set. Don't listen to Andy. And these cans of chili. That's not. That's not happening. That's not doing at all. I digress. This has been another episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily. Thank you for joining us and hanging out with us. Of course. Jeff Greb, thank you for taking time out of what I can only imagine, a very hectic schedule right now to come hang out with us. Us. I wish you so much, so much goodwill, so much love, so much joy, and I really hope you get to feel it. Ride the lightning right now because I can tell you it goes really, really quickly and then it'll just be back to being the extraordinary becomes ordinary so quickly. So I really hope you have a time to sit in this and bask in all the love you've gotten from this industry because of course you deserve it. Jeff. Everybody loves you. Everybody loves Giant Bomb.
Jeff Grubb
Thanks, man. I appreciate that. We're gonna. We'll do our best. You're right. We should take a moment. I'm gonna it do.
Greg Miller
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Kinda Funny Games Daily: Video Games News Podcast Summary Episode: "Giant Bomb is Saved! w/ Jeff Grubb" | Release Date: May 12, 2025
The episode kicks off with host Greg Miller introducing the day's top stories, emphasizing the major news that Giant Bomb has regained its independence. Joining Greg is Jeff Grubb, one of Giant Bomb's co-owners, marking a significant return after his previous departure.
Timestamp: [00:29 - 07:21]
Jeff Grubb shares the intricate process behind Giant Bomb becoming independent once again. Transitioning from being under Fandom, the platform facilitated Giant Bomb's move back to its roots, allowing the community and content creators to regain control.
He expresses immense enthusiasm for spearheading the brand's future, highlighting the importance of community support in this endeavor.
Greg reflects on the swift turnaround from Jeff’s previous unemployment to co-ownership, underscoring the rapid changes and the community’s unwavering support.
Timestamp: [07:21 - 16:12]
The hosts discuss the whirlwind week leading up to PAX East, where Giant Bomb officially announced its independence. The event was marked by excitement and a flurry of community support, both online and on-site.
Greg praises Fandom for their role in facilitating the transition, noting how rare it is for a large platform to prioritize community and creator interests over corporate control.
The discussion also touches on the enthusiastic Super Chats from listeners, celebrating Giant Bomb’s return to independence and expressing eagerness for future collaborations.
Timestamp: [29:02 - 35:27]
A significant portion of the episode delves into Nintendo's upcoming Switch 2 console. Nintendo President Shuntaru Furukawa expressed high expectations for the Switch 2, aiming for robust sales numbers. However, concerns arise due to impending US tariffs.
Jeff Grubb analyzes the implications of these tariffs, emphasizing the challenges Nintendo faces in maintaining profitability while meeting high consumer demand.
He elaborates on the temporary nature of the tariff pause but underscores uncertainty, highlighting the precarious balance Nintendo must maintain to ensure a successful Switch 2 launch.
Timestamp: [38:04 - 43:21]
The conversation shifts to the Fallout TV series, with actor Aaron Moten revealing that his character’s arc is planned to conclude by season five or six, indicating a long-term vision for the show.
Jeff and Greg discuss their hopes for the series, emphasizing the importance of maintaining high-quality storytelling without dragging the narrative unnecessarily.
Greg shares his admiration for the first season and excitement for future developments, including potential tie-ins with Fallout game releases.
Timestamp: [43:21 - 49:52]
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater series is another focal point, with Tony Hawk expressing his support for remastering "Tony Hawk's Underground." The discussion highlights community enthusiasm and the challenges of modernizing classic titles.
The hosts engage with audience Super Chats about their favorite entries in the series, reflecting on the enduring legacy and passionate fanbase of the Tony Hawk games.
They also discuss upcoming plans for live previews and the potential inclusion of original content and characters in remastered versions.
Timestamp: [50:13 - 56:20]
The WE News segment covers various updates in the gaming world, including Nintendo's stricter policies on modifying Switch systems, which has sparked debate within the community.
Additionally, the segment touches on a patch released for "Expedition 33," addressing game-breaking bugs and balancing changes to enhance player experience.
Timestamp: [56:09 - 58:14]
A delightful announcement reveals a collaboration between Krispy Kreme and Bandai Namco Entertainment for Pac-Man’s 45th anniversary, introducing themed donuts and special edition boxes.
The episode wraps up with heartfelt Super Chats from listeners expressing their support and excitement for Giant Bomb’s future, along with playful banter about ongoing streams and community events.
Greg Miller closes the episode by reiterating the importance of supporting independent content creators like Giant Bomb and Kinda Funny. He encourages listeners to join their communities on various platforms, highlighting the value of community support in maintaining high-quality gaming content.
The episode emphasizes the collaborative spirit of the gaming community, celebrating the resurgence of Giant Bomb and looking forward to future projects and collaborations.
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This episode provides an in-depth look into Giant Bomb’s return to independence, the challenges facing major gaming companies like Nintendo, the future of beloved series such as Fallout and Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater, and the vibrant interactions within the gaming community.