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Mariana Van Zeller
When I was there, you had to have a knife. One of you's got to take turns carrying it up your rectum.
Wait, it's up your butt.
That's the prison wallet. You'll never leave home alone.
You have something protected around it, I'm assuming.
Yeah, or else you'll be bleeding out your coolo.
I'm Mariana Van Zeller, and after reporting on black markets for my Emmy winning National Geographic show, trafficked, I'm launching a podcast. You're getting emotional on me. Intimate conversations with those operating in the shadows. The Hidden Third is out now with new episodes every Wednesday. Subscribe@YouTube.com marianavanzeller Follow us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Greg Miller
In the nerdy news you need to know about. Marvel 1943 has been delayed. Bioware gives an update on the future of Mass Effect and the Game Awards. Future class is dead. We'll have all this and more because this is kind of funny. Games Daily. What's up everybody? Welcome to Kinda Funny Games daily for Friday, November 7, 2025. I'm one of your hosts, G Spot, alongside B Hole and we're ready to bring the news to you. Isn't that right, Blessing? Eddie Oye Jr. How many days in.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
A RO knows that now?
Greg Miller
It's man, it's that thing where I felt like I had had a Games Daily drought for a while there with the amount of reviews and like in reviews and then, you know, like the things that happen where I'm not on a show a day or whatever. I try, you know. And so then like to not only be back this week, but I think it's like three or four in a row. Isn't it like it's been you and me crushing it out here, just having fun out here. You know what I mean?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's the G Spot and B Hole connect.
Greg Miller
You know what I mean? Yeah, we had that taint yesterday with, you know, Tim in the middle, but I didn't like that one bit. Oh, nobody likes that. How are you in a world where you now know GTA is delayed. Thank to everyone who showed up for a bonus episode of Games Daily yesterday when we did an emergency episode about the GTA delay.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You know, I don't think I'm looking forward to six more months of pre launch GTA 6 discussion.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I'm kind of over it. I know. We're gonna, we're gonna do it. You know, we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna talk about GTA 6 for six more months.
Greg Miller
You say that, but I really feel like in the. Where we've been already on the GTA conversation has just been, oh, man, everybody's gonna get out of GTA's way. Like, I don't feel like we've. We overanalyze the trailers because that's our job. When a new trailer drops, whenever they drop trailer three. Okay, fine. We'll be all about it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Like, it's like, it's, I think we talk about Wolverine more than we talk about gta.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's, for me, it's the conversations of like, all right, is online going to launch the same day? Are we going back to Vice City? How are they going to make fun of Florida this time? I'm like, that's, you know, we, I feel like there's so much to that we've talked about and like, with that extra six months, we're going to have to talk about it even more as we approach it. But also to your point, like, it's a big year next year, right? Like Wolverine, I'm sure we'll have a lot of discussion about. There's a lot of good, I guess anticipatory. That's a word I just.
Greg Miller
Oh, no, it's not. That's a real word. That's a real word. And you crushed it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
There's a whole lot of anticip. God damn. It's conversation to have in 2026. And so, you know, it's gonna be a good year. It's gonna be a good time next year.
Greg Miller
It is gonna be a good time.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You know what I did last night?
Greg Miller
What's that?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Arc Raiders. I played Arc Raider solo. Let me tell you, that's a fun game.
Greg Miller
That's a game right there.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I don't, I, I, I know what it is, but also at the same time, I, I guess I'm surprised how much it's hitting.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
For me, based on the fact of, like, really all it took wasn't like them to reinvent the wheel or wasn't them to give me like an Overwatch level. Hey, here's all this character and story and all, all it took was for them to be like, yo, just let people put people in a map and.
Greg Miller
Let them have Proxy is a really interesting environment. Yeah. Prox chat. Are you going to fight each other? You're not going to fight each other? Then these robots that are all over you can fight.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Good stuff.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's a really fun time.
Greg Miller
Really enjoying it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I can't wait to talk about it more. As the as we barrel towards game.
Greg Miller
Of the year, do you think you're going to commit more? Are you going to be back?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think so, yes.
Greg Miller
Okay, great.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
As long as it continues to be fun. I think I'll continue to boot it up. I I thought to XCO was going to be my multiplayer game of the moment and I'm still hopping into it here but Arc Raiders I think is.
Greg Miller
Calling me more so interesting. Yeah, I like that a lot. I also like the news of the day. That's what we do on Kind of Funny Games Daily. We run you through the nerdy video game news you need to know about live on Twitch TV. Kind of funny games YouTube.com/kind of funny games and podcast. It says around the globe. I keep people guessing these days.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I didn't like that.
Greg Miller
I'm sorry. If you like that, of course like us pick up a kind of Funny membership. $10 a month gets you all of our content ad free. That's 80 episodes each and every month. And of course you get your daily dose of me, Greg Miller and a 15 to 20 minute podcast called Greg Way. That's also a video but whatever, I record it in my car. It adds up to four hours of exclusive shows. And the other benefit of course good karma for you because you're supporting an 11 person small business all about live talk shows. You can be supporting us right now in the live chat. If you are on YouTube.com kind of funny games you can super chat to be part of the show. Bless you built the show.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I did.
Greg Miller
Riley 21 writes in and says from GTA 6 getting delayed. My job's HR department getting erased. Basically our purchasing slash orders person getting fired. I'm going to need some good news please. Haha. Do you have good news in this episode for Riley or is it all bad?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Ah shit story number two is good.
Greg Miller
Okay, okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. Of course some housekeeping for you today after Kind of funny Games Daily you are gonna get the games cast ranking the best PlayStation 2 games of all time. Shit list. After games cast is game showdown and then after the stream after that is the stream Arc Raiders. I'm joining up with the mic and the Nick. The Nick they're both bad players. They're bad people. They hurt people. Will I. Will they make me, you know, a very nice player? I mean, player solo.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It felt so weird. Here's the thing. I think our graders might be the solution for world peace. Because the fact that I'm out there and I see. I. Any player I saw out there.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Was help, but just a chill person. Yeah. Like the first person I ran it and so shoot.
Greg Miller
Don't shoot.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. Like, it was like the thing of him being like, oh, don't go that direction. Somebody just died over there. And I was like, oh, cool. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm going southwest. And he was like, all right, cool. Just want to make sure you're good. And I was like, what the fuck? Why aren't you calling me a slur? Like, what is going on?
Greg Miller
Video games aren't like, we gotta be a. You know, it's us versus the arcs. As somebody said, if you're a kind of funny, remember, today's Greg Way is 15 minutes about a game I'm hella enjoying. But it's embargoed until next week. We're finally doing the thing I've always talked about. You'll get two Greg Ways the day the embargo lifts next week. Oh, so I wrote with. I did a Greg Way today with my excitement. You'll get it next week as a double dose since I. It's embargoed. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney. The Som Twining for now. Now let's begin the show with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. Time for some news. Five items on the Roper Report Baker's dozen. Number one was breaking news inside of our breaking news Games Daily episode yesterday about GTA's delay. Marvel 1943 Rise of Hydra delayed Beyond beyond early 2026 this is WYP. That's Wesley Yin Pool at IGN. That's the Imagine Games Network. GTA 6 isn't the only high profile video game delayed today. Marvel 1943 Rise of Hydra has suffered a delay of its own coming just an hour after Rockstar announced GTA 6 had moved from May to November 2026, Skydance Games announced Marvel 1943 Rise of Hydra was delayed beyond early 2026. In a statement, Skydance Games said the delay was necessary to fully realize our vision. Tellingly, no new release window was offered. This is yet another delayed arise of Hydra, which in May was pushed out of 2025 to early 2026 Marvel 1943 Rise of Hydra is a narrative driven adventure featuring Captain America Azuri, the Black Panther of the 1940s, Gabriel Jones of the Howling Commandos and a Wakandan spy embedded in occupied Paris. Semicolons would have helped there because Azuri is the Black panther of the 1940s. Yes.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh yeah, I imagine so.
Greg Miller
What an insult if it wasn't. It has Captain America, Azuri, the Black Panther of the 1940s, whoever the fuck that is. It hit the headlines in early 2024 after an eye catching trailer revealed as part of Epic Games State of Unreal event at gdc. It's in development at the Skydance Games team, which is Amy Hennig, Uncharted and co president Julian Beek. Hennig's Skydance team is also working on an untitled Star wars game which has yet to be fully revealed.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You ever like go to an event or to the club or something and your name's not on the list or you're not supposed to be there, or you know somebody whose name isn't on the list and they're not supposed to be there, but like you see a group that's going in and so you kind of just like go in with the group and nobody notices and you make your way in. I feel like that's what they did with the delay news where they saw TA6 getting delayed and somebody in. Somebody at the studio was like, guys, push the news now. Push the news now. They're not going to notice that we put it out during the GTA 6.
Greg Miller
Yeah. If you had a delay to announce, yesterday would have been the funniest time to do it. As soon as GTA opened that door, everybody should have run out there and screamed at. And this is a, this is a weird one in the way. I never expected this game next year early, you know what I mean? This is all we have of gameplay of it. No one's touched it, no one's previewed it. There's been no deep dive. What? Like I was not expecting this to be out in the first three to four months.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What is it about this game that makes us not believe in its existence?
Greg Miller
I think it was rumored for so long, right? It was confusing when we thought there was the EA Black Panther game that got canceled, but there was that rumor. Then there was this. Then this got announced again at the Unreal event, which was weird.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
No, this is announced at Disney and Marvel Showcase because I announced it.
Greg Miller
So why didn't you? Why didn't you? Oh, so you're saying It. So Wesley and Poole wrote it hit headlines early 2024 after an eye catching trailer revealed as part. So he's saying that's when people cared about it. So Wesley and Pool is erasing you from history.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
It's saying nobody gave a shit when Blessing announced that it was the unreal thing. That did.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. What the fuck?
Greg Miller
Because it does look really yp.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, to be fair, this is when we got the trailer. I think the.
Greg Miller
What did you do? You announced the title.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think there was like a. Like a short cinematic. Man, I can't believe I don't remember it fully at this point. But it was that and then silhouettes maybe. I think there was the key art.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
With the silhouettes of the characters. And that was back during.
Greg Miller
So the reason, I think. I don't know the reason. If you would have asked. If you would have asked me yesterday before GTA got delayed and I wasn't thinking of anything. And you're like, hey, yo, that Captain America Black Panther game, when's that coming out? I would be like, no time soon.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Right?
Greg Miller
We just haven't seen enough of it. And then it's actually got announced or early 2026. I'd be like, no way. And then you watch this. And again, this looks impressive. Period. Full stop. This looks like something I want to know a lot more about as a Captain America and Black Panther fan. But it's like, where's the. Where's the actual gameplay in this? You know, I mean, this looks like I. What you're showing me here are beautiful cinematics. And I'm not arguing that. Probably somewhere in there. Very. Like when I. We talked about the Wolverine trailer, I was like, there's no gameplay. People got mad. Look down the alleyway. I'm like, all right, fine, there's three seconds of gameplay, but what does a HUD look like? What is it? What is it? Do me. The developers spin it around when I'm on sticks. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not getting any of that from this coming 2025. 25 is hilarious. So I don't know, it just seems like such an interesting idea. It's got a terrible title.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. Bad time.
Greg Miller
Marvel 19.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's still not Black Panther versus Captain America.
Greg Miller
Exactly. Captain America versus Black Panther. Boom. Done. Captain America, Captain America and the Black Panther colon. Fuck Nazis. I don't know. You know what I mean? They're, you know, whatever it's got to be. But like, there's got to be something better than this because Marvel 1943 Rise of Hydra does not scream, oh, that's a banger. That sounds. That sounds like I'm reading a history book.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What do you expect from gameplay here? From what I remember of this game.
Greg Miller
This is the one where we're jumping between all four perspectives.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You're jumping between these four different characters, right? You have they listed in the article. You have the four different characters.
Greg Miller
1940S Captain America.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You have 1940s Captain America. You have Denali, and then you have the Howling Commando and Gabriel Jones. From the way they talk about it, it for me, I envision it is kind of an Uncharted kind of thing, Right. Third person action game. Way more on the cinematic side. My thing though is, does the studio have the stuff? Does Sky Dance have the stuff to incredibly talented.
Greg Miller
If you don't know Amy Hennig, go ahead and IMDb her most notably would be, of course, launching the Uncharted franchise and doing Uncharted 1, 2 and 3. She has the stuff for cinema, for cinematic games, and for writing and for story. I do expect it to be this narrative third person we're playing as these heroes doing the story where you start to not lose me, because that's a bridge too far. But when I look at this, and this is the Wikipedia summary, right. The game will be an action adventure video game where players will control an ensemble of four characters. In addition to the main protagonist, Steve Rogers, Captain America and Azuri, Black Panther Howling Commandos member Gabriel Jones and Nanali, the leader of the Wakanda Spider, will be playable. I can't wait to be Captain America. And I can't wait to be Black Panther. And I really don't give a shit about the other two people. Yeah. And it's not that that's an impossible thing to overcome, but for a Captain America fan who's starving for a Captain America game, you know, I fucking played Ultimate Alliance 3 two weekends ago with kids in the neighborhood to feel something. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, let me get in there and do it. But when it's time to switch over to be the spy, okay, like, again, this is not having seen any gameplay. This is not. But my concern is I'm gonna love being Captain America and then it's gonna be time to switch. And I might be interested in the story and where we're going, but I really want to throw my fucking shield and kick it back into some guy's face.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. I think for me it's the similar thing of what are these varying gameplay styles, like four different characters. Seems like A stretch when two of them are these big action heroes, superpowered superpower, you know, beings. You have the Howling Commando, which I imagine is gonna be maybe more like run and gun type thing.
Greg Miller
I imagine that's you've got the machine gun, you know what I mean? You've got that gun that always has all the Gatling of bullets.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Right.
Greg Miller
That's what you're doing.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And then for Nunali, you're talking about making more stealthy.
Greg Miller
100%, let's hide, let's sneak in the shadows, let's have gadgets that knock people out from behind or whatever.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I just think it's a. That's a lot like on the gameplay side of a AAA game. I think that's just a lot to both throughout the player and then on the development side make all of those things feel fun in equal ways.
Greg Miller
Right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And so like when I think about my expectation for gameplay and what that looks like, I almost jump less to Uncharted and I guess more to a way out where that's a game where scene to scene, obviously co ops was different thing, but scene to seeing you're doing like very different things, but they all feel small scale enough to where they're able to get away with it and able to be like, all right, you're doing this the next 15 minutes with your co op partner, but then we jump into the next scenario and like every part of the game feels catered. But I think to that, right, that's a six or seven hour video game.
Greg Miller
Yeah, that's the other thing is how long does this experience and where are we going?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, like, honestly based off that, if the idea is more aligned with that where it is, you're jumping between these different things, but it's never doing too much. You're never going that deep into gameplay. Nine hours.
Greg Miller
And that's my thought on it. Like, you know, you see these superheroes, you see Captain America, you see Black Panther. Are we getting around what I feel is often the Achilles heel of being a superhero game where it's like, all right, cool. You're starting from nothing and then you're earning XP to learn new moves. Is it that we're starting your Black Panther, you're Captain America, you're the Howling Commando, you're the spy, you have your kit. This is it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think it has to be that.
Greg Miller
And it's gonna be that thing there. Yeah, we're jumping around a 10 hour experience. You're getting roughly two hours with each person. So you never feel like you burn out on what you're doing. Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I'm in a place with this game where I'm still very excited about it. I still remain a believer in this game. I think the only thing that's holding me back, and this is, I think, for all of us.
Greg Miller
Right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Is the way that they're marketing it. Marketing it and showing it off. Not that the trailers have been bad, because the trailers have actually been incredible, like, especially that cinematic one. But I think this far into the marketing rollout. Rollout of this game, we should have seen more gameplay. And maybe that's to the kind of studio we're talking about with Amy Heddig and all that stuff where we're talking about somebody who. I associate Amy Hennig with story and I associate. Associate her with writing and, like, what she did with Uncharted and all that stuff. Right. I feel like, I guess for me, I then ask, is that the foot we're leading off with? Are we prioritizing the cinematics and the storytelling and the visuals and all that stuff? Because that's what the marketing feels like to me. But when you do that, that makes me worry a little bit about the gameplay.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I think if I'm looking into my crystal ball of what's going to happen with this and I'm playing fast and loose, obviously knowing really nothing, I think what would really benefit this would be, hey, just at the start of summer, there's a PlayStation State of Play, and we get a deep dive gameplay trailer section there. This is what you're doing. This is how you're doing. And then you follow that up at Comic Con and it is a panel with Amy and the cast. Because, I mean, you have.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think I know you're talking about.
Greg Miller
I can't believe I just. Kari, right? Khari Payton. Yeah, of course. I was like, I can see his face. I just saw his face. Ezekiel from the Walking Dead, Cyborg and Teen Titans. Like, we have a name that is a name in the VO and now acting industry. Right. Amy Hennig. Him. Whoever Captain America is. So I don't know.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
There's another writer that's on it that's high profile, very popular comic book writer.
Greg Miller
Who? Evan Narcissus. Is he on it? No, that's. I don't say his last name, but I just shot.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
But no, that's not who I'm thinking. I'm going to look. Oh, it keeps coming to me and then I lose it. I'm going to look it up.
Greg Miller
Do that. Because I have one question here from DJ Kento. Before we move on to something else, you can super chat to be part of the show, remember? Of course. DJ Kento says, what will we see first? Marvel? And I'm gonna say release. What will we see for release first?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Mark Bernardin. You know who that is? Maybe not.
Greg Miller
Oh, from Kevin Smith.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yes.
Greg Miller
Oh, okay.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
I didn't know he was on this. Yeah. DJ Kento, what will we see first? Marvel 1943 GTA 6 or Arkane's Blade?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, GTA 6.
Greg Miller
I think GTA 6 as well. I think GTA 6 is the. Which will you play first? I say you play GTA 6. Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Which is crazy.
Greg Miller
Again, the Marvel 1943 thing. If you would have told me, asked me yesterday before this news, when's it coming out? Like, oh, they haven't even announced it, have they? And they'd be like, no, it's actually been delayed from this year to early 2026. What the fuck? Really? Like, that just doesn't feel like it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What's the. If you're working on this game, what's your next marketing beat? I guess it is everything you just mentioned, right? And all that stuff. But I. I think that's my thing with it, is that I think I would bet more on us playing GTA 6 before playing this game. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if it is a rapid marketing cycle from the next trailer to release. Like, if we get to, let's say the. The may state of play, like you're talking about, it's gonna be may and then jump. And then like, even there, if they're like, yeah, it's coming out in August and we get to Comic Con, it's the big blowout and all this stuff. When we get to the game, I don't think I would be that surprised. I think at this point, if you're gonna market this game, it has to be close to release.
Greg Miller
We'll find out. We go from world peace to galactic peace. Number two on the Roper report. Bioware gives an update on Mass Effect. This is Mike Gamble@blog.bioware.com My favorite news site. Happy N7 Day, everyone. You guessed it. I come to you with another blog. But each year that I write these, they are more important moments of reflection for me. They are more important. They are important moments of reflection for me. I get to pause and think about how truly lucky we are to have Mass Effect and how thankful we are for the community and support we get. We've been through a lot together and we appreciate you. Like you, we've heard the rumors lately. You've made it clear you care deeply about what's next. So let's start by setting the record straight. The next Mass Effect game is in development and EA and BioWare remain committed to telling more stories in this universe. The truth is, the last few years have been an incredibly busy time at BioWare, but currently the team is heads down and focused exclusively on Mass Effect. We have a lot of universes to cover, lots of features to build, and lots of romances to figure out. We're excited by what we're building and we promise you when we're ready, it'll be a lot of fun to show. Until then, thank you for your patience because y' all are thirsty for news and I see you looking for secret meaning in my tweets. Parentheses. Okay, Sometimes they have secret meaning beyond the next game. Beyond. There's more to get excited about. I haven't talked about it much, but you might have heard a little something about a TV series. We've been partnering closely with Amazon on it and we're really excited about. Really excited with what the talented team over there is coming up with. The writers room is going strong and we've got a lot figured out about how this fits within the Mass Effect canon and where it sits in respect to the new game. The show will explore a brand new story within the universe's timeline and will be set after the original trilogy. It won't retread Commander Shepard's story because after all, that's your story, isn't it? Keep an eye on our social channels for more celebrations today, including some awesome new Mass Effect gear. Free crossover items appearing in Skate. Oh fuck. Hell yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's the thing.
Greg Miller
Oh yeah. Fuck all this other bullshit news. Wait. Something tangible in a game I care about. Oh man. Oh man. I gotta look at what they got.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's what we need in skate.
Greg Miller
Give me an N7. I don't give a fuck. And Apex Legends and more. Happy N7 Day Mike Gamble executive Producer, Mass Effect okay, you pass. You pass. Mustard this time. Sorry, I thought I read a different name at the front. P.S. disclaimer There is no secret game information to be gleaned by anything I'm saying today. I promised Riley immediately pops in and says thank God with the super chat. So they are happy that we have some good news. Okay, so what do you want to talk about? Not the fun skate stuff, Kevin.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
There's so many more things we need in skate that aren't. I mean, we're going happy for you.
Greg Miller
I'm going to skate's Twitter like this.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
This is. I'm not saying that this shouldn't happen. I'm just saying that, like, I know it's a joke. There's a. What's going on with the next Mass Fed game? Also, the TV series adaptation isn't going to be about anything. We know it's a new story. I feel like that's a big story there. I feel like that's a talking point.
Greg Miller
Yeah. They're in the right room. Will you actually. We actually see this thing. Kevin, I just put a link at the bottom of the story here to go. Look at this. You got the N7 shirt and aboard. Hop in a skate van to claim your free gear before it's gone. November 11th. All right, I got time. I don't have to run out there. I was gonna run out there, get the. Get on if I needed to, you know.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What was the other thing that came out that you're excited for in skate, like a few weeks ago?
Greg Miller
Halloween.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Was it just Halloween?
Greg Miller
They did. They did a whole bunch of Halloween stuff. Yeah, it wasn't good.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What, there wasn't like, another EA license thing?
Greg Miller
No, I came on the. When they. When they put out the dead space thing, I came out.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's what I'm thinking.
Greg Miller
They charged like 30 bucks. Remember? We had a whole argument about it. Not argument, look. But there you go.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Look, that's what.
Greg Miller
That's free. Come on now. That's dope. Let's have some fun.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I take it all back. That's pretty sick.
Greg Miller
All right, good. Okay, so we've gotten that out. We've covered the biggest news about this skate stuff. Now we can dive into the rest of this. Okay. Yeah, they're working on the game. We know. It's cool that. I guess. It's nice to hear they're exclusively working on it. Okay. Okay, I'll take that.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Do we play this or blade or marvel 1943 first.
Greg Miller
So this Blade. So Mass Effect, Blade or Marvel? You're gonna play Marvel first.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You think Marvel for Blade? When do we. When is.
Greg Miller
Dude.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Dude, when?
Greg Miller
Dude?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Did they ever say a year for Blade?
Greg Miller
I. I do not think so.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, they just showed him. They just showed him in the barbershop. And they're like, all right, cool. We'll see you guys later.
Greg Miller
I think they did right. Am I wrong about that?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
No, I think you might be right. That sounds about right.
Greg Miller
Arcane Blade. Let's see if I can find. No, you're right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, we're gonna play Marvel 1943 before.
Greg Miller
I mean, Arcane Blade is one that I think is going to be quietly canceled. I don't think you're ever gon. I don't know, man. No, I don't know, man.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Can't squander Arcane. They're one of the best in the game.
Greg Miller
They did a great job with redfall.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Okay, they don't exist anymore. But Leon, the people that make hits.
Greg Miller
Marvel's Blade was announced cinematic trailer during Game Wars 2023. The game had entered full production at Arcane leon by late 2024, according to financial briefings.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's a 2027 game. In my heart.
Greg Miller
Okay? My heart, I think you. I still say 1943 before this.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Fair enough.
Greg Miller
Then it gets spicy. Yeah, I think 1943. And then if this actually happens, Blade, then you'd be over there.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Do you think?
Greg Miller
Ray, man says Greg will always says stuff gets canceled. And it does. Let's not for record. Let's not act like I'm not right about it. A lot of times I bet I've been right. The times where I've said something will be canceled. I think I've been right more times than not. And we'll all hold our breath and see what happens with Fair Games, but when it's canceled, I expect you to come bend your fucking knee and kiss the fucking ring.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
So let me just stretch a little bit.
Greg Miller
All right?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Let me just stretch. Stretch and maybe do a little. A little reach. Do you think at all. The tone of this statement is in reply to the Jared Kushner DJ Kento.
Greg Miller
Did Greg predict Wonder Woman? He did. I was the first person to say there was news headlines about me saying the game was in trouble.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Alex Jared Kushner in Saudi Arabia, you know, acquiring EA and that.
Greg Miller
I think there's an undercurrent to this. Yeah, I think there's an undercurrent to this. Of like, we've heard you. We are working on Matt, because I was like, have we been concerned about you working on Master?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think the only thing I've been concerned about is that. And so here when they say so let's start by setting the record straight. The next Mass Effect game is in development in EA and by. We remain committed to telling stories in this universe that very much to me says, hey, no, we're going to stay the course and we're going to make the game that you know, that we know that you love.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Which if we don't get it published by the time the papers are signed, though, probably won't be any gay stuff in it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
My prediction, I think he will have the gay stuff in it.
Greg Miller
And that if they sign the paperwork, because I'm making references to Saudi Arabia obviously being horrible.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, here's my thing. I'm not even worried as far as like the content. I'm not worried about the Saudi Arabia side. It is purely the Jared Kushner side where I think that I could see them stepping in. I think it's the fucking American fucking evil people that would care that much to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You have who in your video game who loves who?
Greg Miller
No, see, you say that, but these people, these MAGA fucks, the ones at the top are just saying the things they need to say to hold power. They don't actually give a shit. I don't think, I don't think any of them actually have a problem with gays. I think they're just like, you know what? We know that the fucking audience below us that gives us the money and the power really has a problem with.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Gays to like they're going to.
Greg Miller
But do you think that, do you think that sliver of the audience, like the people in middle America who don't even know video games exist, I don't think are going to be okay.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
People in middle America know games exist.
Greg Miller
Like, sure, but you would have to actually read the content of articles and watch the content of a conversation to understand that this game has gay sex in it or gay relationships in it, I should say. And maybe gay sex. Hopefully.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Anyways, it's got this, this video game has gay stuff in it and it's owned by this company that's owned by these people. And inside of that thing by that point they've already tuned out. They're like, give it to me to snap your tweet. Can I get a truth social about this? Can I get a new social?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You remember Mass Effect was on the news for when you're fucking blue people. Yeah, yeah. Like I think this is a high profile enough game that I think it would spark conversations because even when we look to what was the last Dragon.
Greg Miller
Age game, valeguard, Veil Guard. Right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Like I think that was enough to where like that the Internet's still on fire sometimes.
Greg Miller
Whenever I see all Tosh was awesome.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Whenever I see Dragon Age Vailgard come up on the Internet, like you look at the replies and it's a trash fire for whatever the see.
Greg Miller
Now that's where it gets interesting. The right wing grifters who don't play games but just scream, everything's woke. Will they. Will. Would they hold Jared Kushner's feet to the. Kushner's feet to the fire that if there's still gay stuff in the game.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yes.
Greg Miller
Okay.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think they're looking for. I think Mass Effect for them is like a. They're golden goose, right? They're looking at it and they're like, oh, that's the next one. Right. High profile, big rpg, known for being, I guess, what left leaning into, or I guess socially liberal as far as what it does with sexuality and relationships and all that stuff. Right. Like, if we can make a buck off of hating on this video game and make an uproar about it. And enough of an uproar that, like, the owners of the company are like, yo, what's going on with this thing? Oh, it's because they're doing this. The gay stuff.
Greg Miller
We own it. Okay. Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, we own it. Oh, shut that down. Right? Like, the fact that we're coming off of fucking. What's going. What's happened with Stephen Colbert and the other late, late night show. They're going after this shit.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I don't think Mass Effect is. I think Mass Effect is maybe like, number one on the list for a video game that does socially progressive things with its relationships, that the fucking grifters would go after and try to sound the alarm after. And Jared Kushner in Saudi Arabia now owning ea, I think they would go, oh, yeah, let's just cut that off then. Let's either, you know, cut down the studio or find some way to, like, put water on the fire here.
Greg Miller
Mm.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
But I also.
Greg Miller
I was listening to Death, Sex and Money the other day. It's an older episode. It came back up my feet. I never finished. And it was about how private equity ruined my life. And it was this interview with this. The former editor in chief of Deadspin, and how, like, when they got bought out and how everything went down and she was explaining all this different stuff of, like. Well, a lot of times when people come with private equity, like, there's this whole thing. I'm gonna. I wanna say leverage buyout. I could be wrong. Google everything. I'm about to say, well, no, it just doesn't matter. It might be leveraged buyout, but it might not be. But there's a way where these fucking piranhas come in, right? Just fucking sharks come in. And what they do is they take out the loan, but not in their name. They take it out in the company's name. So that it really doesn't matter anymore. So they're making money no matter what. And if the thing does fail, it fails, and it doesn't affect them. And I don't know if that's actually what this is, but it wouldn't strike. It wouldn't put. I wouldn't put it past that. Like, who gives a shit? Come out and do the thing. And this is back to my point. Just where I was going originally is like. But I still think it could. I don't think it blows back on Jared Kushner is. I guess what I'm saying.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Gotcha.
Greg Miller
I don't think anybody's gonna. I think Fox News being like, look at this. These two aliens are the same sex, and they're kissing each other. That's gay. We hate. It's woke. I don't think then they'd be like. And Jared Kushner owns it. I think they just be like, ah, this sucks. Video games, see, are the devil. Like, we've told you. They're ruining your children. Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I just think there's gonna be, like, a ping, like a notification being on somebody's phone that's like, oh, shit, they're doing what? Oh, we own this. Oh, shut that down. And then that's gonna ripple. But I do think. Here's the thing. I also believe in the writers and the people at bioware.
Greg Miller
Sure.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That, like, I think they stay the course. I think they'll make the game that they want to make, and they'll put everything in it that the audience that they serve are gonna want. Like, I don't think we're gonna get a compromised Mass Effect because that's just not who they are as a studio.
Greg Miller
I also feel like it'd be too far gone.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
You know? Well, I mean, I guess I don't know how far they are as they're talking about, like, right now, where they're at with production. But, like, I feel like you'd be too far gone to rip that out and do that thing and change that stuff.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. I. I guess what I'm saying. Excuse me. Is that I worry about what happens after. I worry about where we go after Mass effect comes out.
Greg Miller
100%. What about the Amazon show? I like that it's not Shepherd's Story.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. That brings us back to Fallout, where Fallout TV show, I think, was so great and successful because it was just telling a story within that universe, and so it was able to take liberties with what you're doing with plot and, like, how you interpret, like, a Lot of the things in that universe, and it did that universe justice. I would want the same thing out of Mass Effect and I want the same thing out of any video game adaptation taking place in an RPG universe. Give me a different main quest. Give me a different. Yeah. Give me different side quests. Right. Like take place in another part of that universe.
Greg Miller
Fallout's the perfect blueprint to follow here.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
And again to do that and then get people excited, new fans who. I mean, because it's been so long since a Mass Effect, people see the show like the show and then can go back and try a million different things. Yeah. Whether it be the collections or even Andromeda, which wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. This wasn't Shepard, imo.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Do you think this will be a return to form? Do you think the next Mass Effect.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I mean, it has to be. Is it possible over if it's not a return to form? Right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I don't know.
Greg Miller
I think also you get into these things where these gaming. These gaming. These games become the stuff of legend. It's the same way of, like, can Bethesda ever put out another RPG where people go, fucking game of the year. They don't turn it on. And they are like, Bethesda jank. Oh, this thing. You know, I mean, like, and I'm not saying, don't get me wrong, Starfield, not a 10 out of 10. Like, it deserves all the criticism it gets. But like, we're here. We are. I feel like we're, you know, doing the. It's fucking goddamn Groundhog Day. We're not people, like, but Elder Scrolls. But I'm like, but it's still Bethesda. These are the people who. They make this kind of game. If you aren't expecting this kind of game from them, you're going to be disappointed. But like, they've got.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
They've gotten worse, though. Like, Starfield's not as great as the last bets game before that, which isn't as great as the last. But that's the game before that. Not to discredit what you're saying. Right. But, like, I think you're right as far as where their legacy is versus practically where we're at in. In the current day and how you can or can't deliver. Like, I think if you put out a Mass Effect 2 today, I don't think I. I don't think it gets received the same. Right. Like, I think video games have just grown and like.
Greg Miller
But I mean, we're also the Same breath. The same breath too. Of like, you know, when Mass Effect, the next Mass Effects comes out and there's anything in it of being a female character or your female character as Peach Fuzz or we're doing gay relationships, it will be the whole. They've gone. Well, it's always been that way. This is how Mass Effects always been. Yeah. It's just that this is it now and it'll have a lightning rod on it. And then every. Every financial and every statement and every sale and every review will be under a microscope. It's like, I just don't know if you can get back to the, like, a return to form. Who's. I know this happens all the fucking. It's so hard to keep track of who's still at bioware because people leave Bioware and come back to bioware and leave bioware and come back to buy. So it's like, is this team up to the challenge of doing that? Like, and then can it return to form? I don't know. You look at Veil Guard. I never liked Dragon Age. I loved Vale Guard. Everybody who liked Dragon Age hates Veil Guard. So it's like, what audience are you trying to serve at this point? I don't even fucking know how you do any of this. James Super Chasten says Jared Kushner sucks. That's true. That's true. Max says, listen, if the ending is too woke, they can always just rewrite it after four months. Fucking. You know what I mean? We forgot about that all the time. Dova Beat says. Interested to see how they tell a story in a TV show? Post shepherd story. The endings in Mass Effect 3 have extreme changes to the universe that would almost be impossible to ignore. Slash not choose an ending. Very true. But maybe for another galaxy we get away from it or do something to that effect.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Huh? That Mass Effect. Thank you.
Greg Miller
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Greg Miller
Throw em up for the Deadly Boys number three. The Game Awards Future Class program remains on ice. This is Bryant Francis at Game Developer. What is the future of the Game Awards Future Class program? That question has been on the minds of industry observers who for the second year in a row noticed that the Geoff Keighley helmed organization hasn't announced a new cohort of industry professionals that, quote, represent the bright, bold and inclusive future of video games. Game Developer can now confirm that show organizers are not planning a new Future class for 2025 and are not planning any programming for future or past honorees. This information was provided to Future Class alumni in a Discord Server established to host networking and membership opportunities for the program. Previous honorees, parentheses, some of whom requested anonymous anonymity I'm sorry for fear of retaliation end quote or in parentheses told developer or game developer this update was the only message they've received from Show Management in the last year. Quote Last year we completed our promised cycle of programming for the 2023 future class with our TGA mixer and did not induct Future Class, said Future Class organizer Emily Weir. At this time, we are not planning a new Future class for this year and do not have any active programming plans for Future Class. Weir said the organization will keep the Discord server online for alumni to stay in touch with each other, but said she and Keely are not actively monitoring the server. The Game Awards has also removed the Future Class page on its website, eliminating the definitive record of previous honorees. Game writer and 2023 honoree and former Game Developer contributor Emma Kidwell explained to Game Developer that she repeatedly tagged Weir and Keely in messages this year asking for updates on the program, only to receive no response. I felt disrespected as someone who has spoken with Emily in person, she said. It makes everything feel disingenuous and it sounds and feels like they want us to go away quietly. I know not everyone in the Future Class Discord feels like this, but what do they expect from a group of hurt, marginalized folks? Kidwell was one of the honorees spotlighted in last year's broadcast. Fellow writer and cohort member Anna Webster concurred, saying she wished the organization was, quote, unquote upfront about the state of the program. She said a 2024 networking event before last year's award. I'm sorry, she said a 2024 networking event before that year's awards now feels like it was a last hurrah. Melek Tefeha, who was recognized by the group in 2022, told game developer that the news honestly hurt, quote I among others, thought that the Future Class program was not just a platform for celebration, but a means to bridge the gap between industry workers and leaders and help shape the future of the games industry. The Game Awards faced internal pressure from the Future class members in 2023 into 2024. On two fronts honorees called on Keeley to use the show as an opportunity to call for a ceasefire as Israel mounted its invasion of the Gaza Strip following the Hamas October 7th attacks. A United nations commission described the invasion as genocidal in an October 2025 report. Keeley made no statement during the broadcast. In 2024, honorees lobbied the Game Awards to improve their post nomination support for future class members, saying they received inadequate accommodations at the ceremony and that there was little support for alumni after the spotlight faded away. Sources told game developer in 2024 that Keighley and Weir seemed receptive to the feedback and offer networking opportunities. Quote I think it's incredibly stupid of Keely to collect some of the brightest people in our industry, do nothing but the bare minimum and expect that we wouldn't say anything about it. End quote Senate said an anonymous Future Class alumni they accuse the organization of using marginalized people for quote, pats on the back end quote Blessing Adioye Jr. Greg Miller, you're a future class member.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Of 2020, the first class.
Greg Miller
Wow.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Okay.
Greg Miller
So way, way back. You know what I mean? You're old. I didn't know you were old. When'd you get old?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
The past on the past class now I guess I put a tweet or a blue sky that's a BS Tim into assets of a post I made about a week ago saying, is Game Awards feature class still a thing? You know, people replied earnestly saying oh well last year they did the one thing with the one guy. Like it seems like there's something Jeff was moving away from. But like I didn't post this out of context. I posted this.
Greg Miller
Wait Ru, scroll down to Roger's response. Yeah, this year's class is just me. Pretty huge honor Shout out to Alex Anderson who replied, well deserved.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Honestly. No, yeah, I posted this because for so for context of future class and what goes on within future class and the kind of benefits you get for a future class. Right? Like yeah, I think early on Jeff and Emily and the team did it like a pretty decent job of making future class worthwhile. And I don't even, I would even say more than decent. I think they gave a lot of good support for hey, here's like a slight discount on game awards this year if you want to attend. Right? Like we'll sit you in a future class section which comes around to being a problem later on. But you know, you'll get that they had mixers with future class members either before or after the the Game Awards where, you know, we Would hang out at a cafe or a bar or whatever and get to, like, network and speak and talk and hang out with other Future class members. Right? Like, yeah, things to do in order to bring these. This group of people together. A group of people that they would describe as something along the lines of, like, the inclusive future of the industry. We want to get people that are either up and coming or people that, you know, we believe have the power to make the. Make an impact in the video games industry and people that are from varied, diverse backgrounds. And so they did all that. They would have video calls or they would organize video calls with like. Like, people who worked higher up in the industry, whether it be writers. There was one call, I remember where they organized a call with Reggie Fils Aime, which I thought was really cool. And this is all within the first year of the Future class.
Greg Miller
Sure. This is all 2021.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
20, yeah. Like, 2021 is when a lot of that stuff was going down post that they. Things started to dissipate pretty rapidly as far as how much support the Future class would get, which I think leads to the problem of where we end up. Where you have the game awards a couple of years ago where people were asking Jeff to say something about what's going on in Gaza. Right. Like, you have this microphone, you have this power, you know, I think Jeff often gets the reputation of not being outspoken with his platform about things like layoffs, which I think he got a little bit better at. Right. Like, I believe it was the same last year. We talked a bit about that stuff, but using that platform in order to talk about. Talk about social change and things.
Greg Miller
Things.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
The Future Class had an organized thing of, hey, we would really like to either you to talk about this or give us.
Greg Miller
I remember there was like an open letter, right?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, there was an open letter situation, and Jeff just straight up ignored it, which led to a lot of, I guess, vitriol within the Future class as far as how people react to that. I know quite a few people probably just didn't care because they get inducted and they're like, all right, cool, I'm in this thing, but I don't really care about it.
Greg Miller
Right.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And then there's a core group of people that are like, like, nah, man, that. That's up all that stuff. I noticed it only recently, I guess, when I put up this tweet where about, I want to say a year, year, year and a half ago, there was a call with Jeff and Emily talking about Future class, hashing things out, trying to Figure out where we go from here. And they're very receptive as far as wanting to make things better, wanting to create better programs for the future class and like, make it so that. That the feature class felt supported. That was then followed up by essentially them ghosting the feature class. Right. And I only noticed because I was looking for my email. I was looking through my email because usually there's like a discount thing and I was like, trying to figure out if I'm going to game awards and so.
Greg Miller
Oh, discount for the ticket.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
For the ticket. For the ticket, yeah.
Greg Miller
Was there this year?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
No, that was my thing. I was like, oh, that's interesting. I go into the discord and notice that, oh, they've not been in this discord since, like, March, you know what I mean? They just straight up, up and left. And the first official statement we're hearing about them not supporting the future class going forward is via this article where they're putting up these statements saying, yeah, we're not doing this anymore. And I think that's fucked up. I think that's very fucked up. Namely because you can't create a program where you're trying to highlight marginalized people, people of color, right? Like, you're bringing this program as being inclusive, all these things. And then when it starts to, like when you have the feeling of, I don't feel like doing this anymore, you just abandon it. That for me is the exact opposite of being an ally, being somebody who actually cares about this. Right? Like, sure, I think there's a. There's a level of. I don't know if apathy is the word, but I guess a level of disrespect felt when that happens, does that sound off? Does that sound like, oh, I mean.
Greg Miller
You can feel whatever you want to feel, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to tell you how if you're right or wrong, I, I understand where you're coming from. And what it is, is, you know, there's a lot to tackle and, and lots of like, well, what about this? Not what about this? But like, that's how you feel. We don't know how Jeff feels about it. We don't know how Emily feels about it. Right? What. Where they're at with it. So then you start coming up with excuses, rationale that could be giving them too much credit, too little credit, stuff to that effect. I think at the top of the order, the number one thing is that this is being handled poorly. It sounds like the future class was handled poorly, period. Period. Like there's no debating that when you're talking about. You're all in a discord again to what they. One of the quoted people here talks about. You bring together all these people who are getting the light because they are outspoken and they are ready to rally and they are trying to be industry leaders. You put them all together and then ignore them. That's not gonna end well. You need to talk to them as human beings and go down to it. Right? And so I think for me, it really comes down to the question I have is the last sentence here. Here they acc. This is the anonymous person. They accuse the organization of using marginalized people for pats on the back. I'm asking you to read tea leaves and whatever, but, like, do you. I. I feel like for me, complete outsider. Right. Kind of funny. Votes in the game, awards game, awarding part of it, but we're not part of anything else in terms of planning the game wars or anything. Right. So my question for you, as someone boots on the ground in this situation, do you feel like, and I know this is tough, do you feel like it was, hey, they did this for the pats on the back. They launched this in 2020 right on the heels of a moment in time when it felt like groundswell movement, Black Lives Matter, George Floyd was just murdered, and we've all come out and said, that's fucking wrong. Right. For lack of a better term, a period of time where DEI was a good thing.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Miller
And now you're to a point where clearly with the general populace and the mainstream, they don't feel that way. Or at least the loudest parts of the mainstream, however you want to do it, right? In Trump's America, they don't. And that wind was already blowing to some extent last year when they didn't do a game. So do you think it's. They didn't have interest in doing this, do you think? Or do you think it's more that it was a fad to get pats on the back?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think it was because it was a fad to get pats on the back, I think, clearly, right. Like that. That's kind of the thing I wanted to drive to, actually, is like, I look at when they launch, happy to.
Greg Miller
Be your bus driver.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Thank you for getting me there. Right. Like, they launched this thing at a time where it was cool to support people of color, it was cool to support gay people, it was cool to support marginalized people. And now when you look at the last year of everybody pulling out from this, right. It's not even just Kelly. It's everybody. It's Target, it's whoever, whatever big corporation you want to talk about that have sunsetted their DEI efforts, right? It's them looking around. I don't want to, I don't want to put it too much of me projecting in terms of, like, how they came about this, right? But I think it's them being like, we ain't got to do this. Like, like, what are we doing here? This is becoming a waste of time. This is becoming something that's also just not trendy to do, right? Like, we're probably not gonna see enough.
Greg Miller
We're seeing pushback from the. I was gonna. I'm throwing everybody in the bad people but right wing grifters. We're seeing enough pushback from gamers that they don't want this shit. So why are we taking the bullets and taking the arrows for this?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Why are we putting in the extra effort? Because, like, like, again, this is extra effort to do. Like, I going back, I applaud the amount of work they put into this. In 2021, in 2022, where it felt like there was support there. And it felt like, damn, like you were organizing calls with these people. Like, I wasn't even expecting this as part of, you know, as somebody who got a part of future class, I was expecting a website page and for y' all to, you know, move away. And like, now they've moved away, right? And took a little, a little bit of while to do that, right? But like, like, yeah, I look at this and I'm like, I would have felt, at least for me personally, it can't be for. For other people in the future class if they had an announcement that was, hey, guys, we're sunsetting this because we're trying to transform what this looks like. Because we saw what they did last year with having the one person go up on stage, be able to accept the thing and highlight his efforts, right? That felt like a really cool way to do that. If Jeff and Emily had an official statement and they were like, hey, we're sun setting this. We're keeping the discord open so you guys can talk to each other. For me personally, that'd be a different thing. For me personally, I'd be like, I get it. Like, and like, I'd be still kind of upset, right? But like, if it's about transforming this into something that makes more sense and something that pisses off less people, sure. But that's not what they did. They ghosted everybody, right? They didn't respond to Emily or to Emma Kidwell.
Greg Miller
Sorry.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, like, they didn't respond to anybody. People have been in that discord for ages being like, yo, what's up with this thing? Nothing. Yeah, that's a different thing.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I think that's fucked up.
Greg Miller
Agree. Yeah. I think this, again, there's no whether. Wherever you want to fall on it. There's no argument. This was handled poorly. Right. And so, yeah, I'm sorry you have to go through that. And I know it's not like, the biggest affronts or whatever.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, no, I'm definitely, like, one of the less vocal people, I think. Or at least one of the. I'm lower in the totem pole as far as people who care deeply about this. Right. Like, I've not been the one who's, like, reaching out to Jeff and, like, been talking to other people in the discord ever. I'm very much. Like, I've been a lurker this whole time in the thing. Like, I'll even show up to calls with my microphone off being like, oh, it's cool that they're doing this. But, like, you know, I'm.
Greg Miller
I'm not gonna pop in and say stuff.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I'm not gonna pop in and say stuff like, I'm here to hang out with people or do whatever, but I've not been, like, on the forefront of all this. Like, shout out to Emma Kidwell and other people that are. Yeah. But, yeah, like, I see all this stuff happening from the sidelines, and I can't help but to look at it and be like, like, oh, this whole thing is up. Like, this is the pure example of white people trying to get a pat on the back for supporting black people in a moment but then moving away from it. And, like, you can't do that because people will notice and call you out on it. And so, like, I will say, yeah, shame on the team for handling this this way. Like, it's a really up way to go about it that leaves people feeling in the way that they feel. And you can't get mad at people for feeling abandoned when you abandon people.
Greg Miller
Well said, bless. Let's diffuse the situation with a super chat from wisecast, who said it's always cool to support minorities and marginalized people. I agree. It's interesting to see people back away from it. I don't like that. I'm happy doing it, people. Oh, that's about the loans coming. All right, we can move on then. But well said, bless. Number four on the Roper report, Mafia The Old Country Beat Internal Sales expectations this is Rafi Sinha over at Gaming Bolt. While Borderlands 4 sales were a little softer than expected and NBA 2K26 achieved double digit growth, Take Two Interactive surprisingly noted the success of Mafia the Old Country. According to CEO Strauss Zelnick in conversation with the game business, the early 1900s action adventure beat out the company's internal expectations. This confirms what it suspected, according to Zelnick, which in I'm sorry, quotes, which is just if you give consumers a great narrative experience, that's a lot of fun, somewhat contained and a fair price, then you can have the perfect result. The company didn't provide any details on sales, but in its second quarter fiscal year 2026 report it confirmed over 2.9 million pre orders before launch. It also ranked third in Circana Best selling premium games charts in the United States for August 2025. Going by estimates, over 800,000 copies were sold in the first four days, which isn't too shabby for a $50 title with 12 to 14 hours of gameplay. Parentheses 23 hours for completionists According to how long to beat so single player.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Games are saved Les single player 12 hour narrative games. Linear. You've done it. 2K is going to pump these things out. I do think this bodes well though for the future of that especially future of Mafia for sure. But like I would like to see more what's the name of the studio that makes mafia hangar.
Greg Miller
Hangar 13. 13.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
13. Hangar 13. Yeah, I'd like to see more studios like Hangar 13 that are able to do this.
Greg Miller
I mean as we wait probably another seven years for G that you're going to need smaller games to come out faster. So this is a great way to do it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. I mean honestly, what does this say about Borderlands though? Borderlands launching a little softer, softer than.
Greg Miller
Expected I would think. I mean they also said we talked about it yesterday in the GTA stuff. They said they expected to hit its sales numbers over time, over, you know, years and years. I think it speaks to what we all kind of felt was that there was more apathy for this Borderlands. Right where it was like I Borderlands 3 was there's a new Borderlands and Borderlands 4. I was like, all right, cool. More Borderlands is coming out. It had a terrible launch. It didn't run well. You know what I mean? I did as a Borderlands fan, I didn't connect with this one. I've never gone back nor have I ever felt like I should go back to it. Like I feel like it's just another Borderlands in that scenario. I don't know.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What do you think, do you think. How do you think they change for Borderlands 5?
Greg Miller
I think you take more time off. I think there needs to be more time between these games. And I would say you go back again. Like one of the. I know it's so many people are like, oh man, Like I hate the cringe, I hate the whatever, blah, blah, like Borderlands being obnoxious colors and crazy things and splash screens and ah. Like that's what Borderlands is, imo. And so when they watered this one down, tamed this one down to try to meet the people who didn't want that, I feel they lost something. Where I felt like I was playing a very generic game when I played Borderlands. And I'm not saying it all needs to be fucking dick and fart jokes, but like, I just didn't get the color of it. It wasn't a world I wanted to hang out in.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Damn, that's crazy. I feel like that's like such an in opposition to how he felt. Borderlands 3.
Greg Miller
It's just such an. I mean, maybe I'm. I mean, I don't know if I'm the minority or not, but it's like, it's like it's. I have not thought about Borderlands period, outside of it coming up in an article or like a games daily or something. I have not been like, oh man, Borderlands. Was I too hard on it? Should I go back to it? Like, who was my stupid Vault Hunter? What was his name? I don't even know. Whatever, what was I doing in it? Blah, blah, blah. And granted I'm playing amazing games, right? That are like, again, playing Borderlands, I had talked about like, man, I just want to get to the outer worlds. And I got to the outer worlds and I was like, yep, here we go. A first person shooter rpg. But I'm shooting and it's fun and the weapons are crazy in the world's awesome and the companions are great and the story, like it had more to it than just a lot of guns, which is what Borderlands always has. Yeah. And Borderlands, I feel like again, I was shocked hosting the Borderlands show for Borderlands 3. Really discovering the community in the Borderlands community. That's like, I run this boss every night for five hours trying to get the perfect drop. And I was like, why? Your guns are fun, just use the fun. And I. Everybody plays a game a different way for a different reason. But maybe they lean too far into that and that's not what mainstream wants. I don't know.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, I mean, when I. To your point, when I think of Borderlands, I do think of the memes. I think of like even I think of people's reaction to the memes, honestly. Like I'll go online and people being like, Borderlands 2 has too many references or whatever. I think of that. And then also I think about how deep people get into, into Borderlands regardless.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I do think that you're on to something as far as that kind of being part of the personality of Borderlands might not be part of the charm, but it is part of the identity in a way that like maybe might make it stick out. I also think that like Borderlands is one of those franchises and as far as it being almost bigger than, than mainstream as far as video games go, because I remember being in college and my friend Joe, like him and his girlfriend would play Borderlands all the time. He brought us in to play Borderlands 2 with them.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And like they're so into borderlands that they 3d printed their. He was in the engineering school. Yeah, they 3D printed their own version of Settlers of Catan. That was Borderlands theme.
Greg Miller
Oh, wow, that's cool.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, that had like, like cool neon colored, like lighting that they put on underneath it to make like the board glow and all this.
Greg Miller
Yeah, that's hot.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And it was sick. But like there are also people that don't. I don't look at them as like, like video game players like me and.
Greg Miller
You were playing the next game strikes a chord where it does get people who are not like the people who listen to our show. Both chats have been popping off with people like, hey, I love Borderlands 4. Oh, hey. The humor was in the side quest. Like, I hear you. Norman in the super chat says Borderlands time may have passed. And then Resolute says in the super chats, I personally know multiple people who didn't buy Borderlands 4 because of Randy Pitchford and I almost didn't either. I don't think that's the leading reason, but I could understand why that would be there. It's also an incredibly, incredibly crowded time for video games. So maybe there's more to be said there. But the end life to date sales of Borderlands will be big news when we get a bless. If I wanted something smaller, say what the small news and they need to know about was, where would I go?
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You'd go to our last news story, the we news channel. Recover all the small news items you need to know about Number five We.
Greg Miller
Knew News A possible scoop from Chris Avalone, Co founder and former CCO of Obsidian. It's a tweeter BS I can't tell. Apparently aside from DLC plans for Outer Worlds 2, it seems like Obsidian is making no plans for Outer Worlds 3, but they are doing a vowed two great. I they should I love Outer Worlds 2. They should stop doing that and make Fallout New Vegas 2 or whatever they want to call it. And out in Avowed is an interesting Obsidian rpg. I'll follow Obsidian to the ends of the earth even though I don't always connect with their games. I think I think about is such a great example of an Obsidian RPG open world RPG open zone RPG that's between outer worlds one in between outer worlds two. And I think if you now take that Avow 2 and you put it here on the other side of Outer Worlds 2 with what they know about companions and worlds and stuff like that, you'd have a winner.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Hear me out Pentoomin.
Greg Miller
Go away. No, we don't want to hear that. Austin Wintory tweeted and said Congrats to my friends and thank you for the Recording Academy for including Sword of the sea at the 26 Grammys and massive shout out to Wilbert Rajat for the two time nominee. I'm sad about the I'm sad the lack of Expedition 33among them. I would happily trade places that score is but he's saying his best score in soundtrack for video games and other interactive media was announced. It's Avatar frontiers of Pandora, Helldivers 2, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Star Wars Outlaw Claws and of course Sword in the Sea.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I'm sure there's a bigger conversation we had here about the like movie adaptation games and them getting the preference for for these awards. And I get it because of recognizability but like they're objectively wrong not to have player obscure expedition 33 on this.
Greg Miller
Nobody played that nerd from Eurogamer. According to Deal Labs, GTA 5 is going to be available for PlayStation plus subscribers on the Extra and Premium tiers in the very near future, with an announcement from Sony expected later this month from Glenn Martin at the PlayStation Blog Surrey the seventh note is a rhythm action platformer and our love letter to games we grew up playing and adore. Set in a magical world, it features music infused platforming gameplay, unlockable movement abilities, the dramatic escape sequences set to synchronize epic soundtrack. You can check it out for yourself in our first ever official gameplay trailer right here. We're watching it there. It looks fucking awesome.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. This is one that Tim dropped into the KFG slash back. And for audio listeners, it's a 2D platformer, very colorful and has rhythm game mechanics.
Greg Miller
Very cool going on. I like that a lot.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, it's called Siri. I already scrolled away. Siri the seventh note. S U R I the seventh note.
Greg Miller
And then late housekeeping from us. It's Extra Life weekend and we're encouraging you all to donate today at kind of funny.com extra life. Remember, your donations fuel Children's Miracle Network hospitals so that sick kids don't have to pay for treatment. You can donate or better yet, join and play video games to raise money for your own local hospital at kind of funny dot com. Extra life. Just like Mr. Hawks's. Mr. Hawks says. Extra Live stream. Tomorrow I'm playing Mind's Eye on my Twitch and on story modders YouTube raising money for sick kids. Hit me up in the donation link. Get out there and help if you can. And that's it for WE news. We turn our eyes to Kind of funny dot com. You're wrong. Where Captain Kinky Boots writes in and says, blessing and Greg, you're both wrong. The Marvel game 1940, whatever, was technically announced in October 2021. And they have a Skydance article here about joining to make a new interactive title. Well, you didn't know the title.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, no, that's not them announcing the game. That's them announcing that they're working on a game.
Greg Miller
The key art reveal at the panel with bless was September 22nd. I don't like that you're wrong and I don't like you, Captain Kinky Boots.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Wow.
Greg Miller
I had. Somebody had to say it. I'm sick of giving up. It is fucked up that I had to do that, but somebody had to do. Dub to Kaiser in the free chat says still no Last Caretaker talk. Unreal. You have access to super chats. I don't know what you want. Jack Patillo's game the Last Caretaker is out. There you go. Everybody go get it.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Is it out today?
Greg Miller
I think it's out yesterday.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, cool. I can't play every single game.
Greg Miller
You fucking happy? Dubbed Kaiser.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Are you fucking the last caretaker here?
Greg Miller
No.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Damn. Not even for Jack?
Greg Miller
I. I'm. I'm taking back shout outs I've given to Jack Patill in the past. No, no. Now is officially my enemy. You did that. You did that. Are you happy? Everybody? Are you Happy chat. No, now I gotta go figure out how I can ruin his life like I did Tim.
Blessing Adioye Jr.
He's gotta stop with the smoke. It's been one.
Greg Miller
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Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra DELAYED, Mass Effect Update, and the Game Awards’ Future Class Dropped
Hosts: Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller & Blessing Adeoye Jr.
Date: November 7, 2025
On this episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily, Greg and Blessing cover three major stories shaking up the video game industry:
Additional discussions span from Borderlands’ waning appeal, indie dev rumors, and the joys of chill gaming in Arc Raiders, to the cultural moment surrounding DEI programs in gaming.
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On Marvel 1943 Delay:
“Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra does not scream ‘that’s a banger.’ That sounds like I’m reading a history book.”
— Greg Miller (11:43)
On Future Class’ Demise & Allyship:
“You can’t create a program where you’re trying to highlight marginalized people… and then when you start to not feel like doing this anymore, just abandon it. That for me is the exact opposite of being an ally.”
— Blessing (45:36)
On Mass Effect’s TV Show:
“The show will explore a brand new story within the universe’s timeline and will be set after the original trilogy… after all, [Shepard’s] your story, isn’t it?”
— Mike Gamble, BioWare (21:13)
On Industry Shifts in DEI:
“They launched this thing at a time where it was cool to support people of color… and now… everyone is pulling out… it’s them being like, ‘we ain’t gotta do this.’”
— Blessing (48:40)
On Borderlands’ Identity Crisis:
“When they watered this one down… I felt like I was playing a very generic game… I’m not saying it all needs to be fucking dick and fart jokes, but I just didn’t get the color of it.”
— Greg (55:14)
This episode blends Kinda Funny’s signature banter with raw, informed industry critique and genuine frustration over recurring industry failures—especially regarding diversity and communication. The hosts’ skepticism, humor, and willingness to confront uncomfortable industry truths shine through, making the episode essential listening for gaming news fans and industry watchers alike.
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