New Nintendo Switch 2 Model Leak? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 01.16.26

Summary

Kinda Funny Games Daily – January 16, 2026

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Today’s episode, hosted by Snowbike Mike and Gary Whitta, is an Excast reunion packed with analysis, banter, and community engagement. The main topics revolve around a rumored Nintendo Switch 2 model leak, major industry moves (notably the Division 3 director’s departure from Ubisoft to EA), live service shutdowns (New World), and the latest gaming news, with a healthy dose of personal anecdotes and offbeat humor.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Friendly Catch-Up & Current Gaming

• Hosts: Snowbike Mike, Gary Whitta
• Vibe: Lighthearted, playful roast, exchanging life and gaming updates.

Memorable Quotes:

• “These Forza games, they always do look great, but like it's very unlikely we're going to be—yep, that is an awesome looking Forza game set in Japan… not going to be like any big curveballs in that one.” – Gary Whitta [03:29]
• “For me, the action is the juice.” – Gary Whitta quoting Heat, on Snowbike Mike’s PvP style [57:27]
• “I'm the only one around here that knows anything about movies. The rest of you…” – Gary Whitta [59:45]

Notable Segments:

• Gary discusses his new podcast See You in Hell’s early success [06:05] and the scramble to produce episode two after a strong showing at launch.
• Arc Raiders is dissected in depth – its sweaty, high-stakes approach compared to Helldivers, the tension of PvPvE encounters, and matchmade toxicity.
  • “If I log into Arc Raiders there’s very likely at least one person I know is on… loving it.” – Gary Whitta [15:02]

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2. Major News – The Roper Report

Story #1: Mystery Product Code Sparks Switch 2 Model Rumors [17:05–23:45]

Source: Ollie Reynolds, Nintendo Life

• Rumor: A new ‘OSM’ product code on Nintendo’s official site may hint at a Switch 2 variant.
• Discussion points:
  • Tradition of iterative Switch models (OG, Lite, OLED).
  • Both hosts expect a Switch 2 Lite and/or OLED in the future, but caution it’s “way too early” for an imminent reveal.
  • Product code could also point to a menu or prototype, not actual hardware.
  • “Unless... there’s some technological or economic reason not to, I think it makes sense for them to follow the very successful playbook they had with Switch 1...” – Gary Whitta [19:22]
  • “They already knew what they were doing. These companies plan way ahead.” – Gary Whitta [20:44]
  • Consensus: A “Switch Lite makes sense,” but no release soon.

Story #2: Division 3 Boss Julian Gerighty Leaves Ubisoft for EA [26:52–35:33]

Source: Andy Robinson, VGC

• Headline: The creative force behind The Division and Star Wars Outlaws moves from Ubisoft Massive to lead Battlefield Studios at EA, soon after hyping up Division 3.
• Impact:
  • “Big get for EA, big loss for Ubisoft.” – Gary Whitta [28:47]
  • Ubisoft is still promising ongoing support for The Division, new creative directors named.
• Dark Zone chat: Mike & Gary reminisce about the Division’s mix of PvE and PvP, and speculate Division 3 could lean harder into the extraction shooter genre.
• Broader reflection on Ubisoft’s recent struggles, successful franchises, and need for fresh wins.

Story #3: Amazon’s New World Aeternum MMO Shutting Down [36:39–42:57]

Source: Sophie McEvoy, GI Biz

• Fact: After lackluster long-term performance, New World and in-game purchases shut down by Jan 2027.
• Themes:
  • The sadness of MMO worlds ending and communities dissolving.
  • “I don't think of them as a game I play, but as a place that I go.” – Gary Whitta [40:04]
  • References to the closures of earlier MMOs (Asheron’s Call, Matrix Online), and the perilous life of live service games.
  • “When that world goes away, there’s something really sad about it… like switching off the life support.” – Gary Whitta [41:53]

Story #4: LEGO Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Set Announced [43:16–45:43]

• Announcement: LEGO set (1,003 pieces, $129), re-enacts the climactic final battle of Ocarina of Time, launches March 1.
  • Gary guesses the exact price, recounts his household’s Zelda fandom.
  • Discussion of whether Ocarina of Time still holds the “best Zelda” crown.

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3. WI-News: Lightning Round [46:09–52:22]

Short Stories & Updates:

• Netflix lands streaming rights to the live-action Legend of Zelda film.
• CM Punk reportedly headlining WWE 2K26’s showcase mode — is he S-Tier? Heated debate!
• Ace Combat 7 sells 7 million copies.
• No Rest for the Wicked (by Ori’s Moon Studios) sells 1 million in Early Access.
• Coffee Talk: Tokyo delayed; original comes to mobile.
• Subway Surfer City launches Feb 26 — the youth are hyped.

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4. Superchat Q&A & Community Banter [52:34–63:35]

• “Gary, loved See You in Hell.” – Fan message, celebrates Gary’s writing work [52:48]
• On old game merch: Gary reminisces about a Triple Play Baseball ’98 hoodie [53:53]
• Birthday shoutouts: Mike & Gary (“Boom Boom!”) [58:33]
• Fantasy book rec: The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss [62:43]
• Movies: Gary volunteers to join the crew for a rewatch of Heat or Pulp Fiction [62:05], critiques the pressure to make others watch your fave films.

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5. Show Closer: Party Games and Industry Chat [63:35–66:50]

• Mike teases the next Party Mode episode: the frantic Overcooked-like Unrailed, a Gary favorite.
• Discussion of how franchises like Mario Kart and Minecraft spawn nearly indistinguishable clones (Sonic Racing, Lego Party, Hytale), and the legal/creative gray area this creates.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It's OLED or no-lead in my house.” – Gary Whitta on Switch screens [19:48]
• “You bring the cheese to me. I eat the cheese”—Snowbike Mike, on extraction shooter rat tactics [12:38]
• “They call them rats... You bring the cheese to me. I eat the cheese.” – Snowbike Mike [12:38]
• “I want to see you and Nick sit down and watch Heat for content... that's a banger movie.” – Gary Whitta [57:47]

Timestamps for Key Segments:

• [06:05] – Gary details the success of his podcast See You in Hell
• [17:05] – Switch 2 (OSM code) speculation begins
• [26:52] – Division 3 director departure news
• [36:39] – Closure of New World MMO segment
• [43:16] – LEGO Zelda set announcement
• [46:09] – WI-News/Quickfire segment starts
• [52:34] – Superchat Q&A

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Tone & Energy

• Energetic, honest, irreverently insightful.
• Hosts riff on each other’s quirks (Mike’s PvP “juice,” Gary’s Gen X pride, old game merch).
• Genuine industry knowledge blended with personal anecdotes (and a healthy skepticism toward PR spin).
• Community questions, jokes, and shoutouts are woven throughout.

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For Listeners Who Missed It: Key Takeaways

• No imminent Switch 2 hardware release, but expect the ‘Nintendo Playbook’ of iterative models.
• Division 3 is still coming, but Ubisoft loses a crucial leader to Battlefield Studios.
• The world of New World will sunset in 2027, a reminder of the fragility of live-service communities.
• Legendary franchises endure, whether through LEGO, new modes, or franchises that refuse to die (hi, Ace Combat and Subway Surfers).
• Hosts are excited, skeptical, and full of gamer nostalgia—if you want industry talk with sharp wit and a dash of “action is the juice,” this was the episode.

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Transcript

[Gary Whitta]

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[Snowbike Mike]

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[Gary Whitta]

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[Snowbike Mike]

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[Snowbike Mike]

On today's gaming news, rumors of a new Switch 2 model, Division 3's director leaves for Battlefield Studios and New World of Turnum is going offline. This year we'll have all that and more because this is Kind Of Funny. Games Daily. What's up everybody and welcome to Kind of Funny Games daily for Friday, January 16, 2026. I'm one of your show hosts, Snowbike Mike. And we're back with an Excast reunion, a Friday with your favorites, Gary Witta. What a big. Gary. Gary, you look good.

[Gary Whitta]

Thank you. You know, I lost quite a bit of weight over the past.

[Snowbike Mike]

I know you've been killing it on the weight loss. Yeah. You know what else it is? It's the glasses those thick frames are doing it for.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, I thought so. I thought they were a little too Austin Powers when I first got them.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

And some people don't like them because these are the metas, these are the. And these are the ones that have the wristband. Right. So if I, I can do kind of gestures and like will show up in my. I've got like. I'm like Iron Man. Right.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's so cool.

[Gary Whitta]

I've got like all kinds of hud.

[Snowbike Mike]

When I think. Gary, when I think that guy's got a HUD that he's looking at us.

[Gary Whitta]

Right? Yeah, yeah. I'm always looking at.

[Snowbike Mike]

So that's why they're so thick. Because.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, because they have to fit in all the privacy invading Zuckerberg surveillance state, Palantir technology.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary, it's great to see you. You And I haven't been together in quite some time.

[Gary Whitta]

I have to tell you, the way my heart lifted when I came in this morning and I said to Greg, who am I on with today? And he said, mike, I was like.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, and we get some fun back together because, Gary, I got a lot. I got a lot of gaming stuff on my mind. One of them leading the charge. Xbox developer Underscore Direct next week.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, I'm coming in for that.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm going to be together Union Fable and Forza Horizon.

[Gary Whitta]

Let's fucking hope it isn't an LCAST reunion.

[Snowbike Mike]

No. Lcap.

[Gary Whitta]

Where are the vibes right now? Are they off? Are they on Xbox? Vibes for Xbox. Yeah. And where are they going to be after Friday? They're back on.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, they're off.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, they're off.

[Snowbike Mike]

They're just slightly off.

[Gary Whitta]

What's it going to take to flip that vibe switch from off?

[Snowbike Mike]

Fable showing? Really cool.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Forza Horizon hitting you with exactly what you want to see.

[Gary Whitta]

The thing about what's interesting is that with. Because those are the. Those are the two banner games that we know about, right? I mean, like I said, there's. There could be something we don't know about. That's always exciting. I know. Paris Banjo Kazooie.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Never gonna happen, by the way. But so it's interesting, right? Forza Horizon 6. I'm very excited about that. For the longest time I have been saying like, can you please bring this game to Japan, right. It makes total like it's a box that is just waiting to be checked. You've been to all these other cool places, but come on, Japan, right? Beautiful countryside, Mount Fuji, beautiful rolling hills. Bonus. But also, you know, Tokyo, Tokyo Drift drifting around those corners. It's, it's. It. You know, it was, it was always going to happen. So I'm glad they, I'm glad they've gone there. What's interesting is like I'm sure it's going to look great, right? Because these, these Forza games, they always do look great but like it's very unlikely we're going to be. Yep. That is a awesome looking Forza game set in Japan. There's not going to be like any like big curveballs in that one.

[Snowbike Mike]

Right.

[Gary Whitta]

But with Fable, that, that obviously again we know what kind of game it's going to be because there's been a long history of these games, but we still haven't seen that much of it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Even though we've seen nothing of Forza Horizon, you can imagine, like we know what's going to look like? It's not like what's from Japan. And that's going to be great fable. Like have they ever shown any real like running around gameplay?

[Snowbike Mike]

They've said they've shown very tiny bit.

[Gary Whitta]

Right. But we want like a good chunk.

[Snowbike Mike]

This is it.

[Gary Whitta]

So I feel like they must know that. What is this like the fourth time, fifth time that they've. It's been part of some kind of showcase. They can't around anymore. Like time to open the kimono.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm excited, Gary. You know what else? There's a couple more things on my gaming mind right now. Of course, the reveal of Tomb Raider Sophie Turner as the Amazon.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. What was your. What was your feeling?

[Snowbike Mike]

Looks great. The outfit looks great. Double thumbs up for that.

[Gary Whitta]

They. It's interesting that they went back to a very early version of Lara Cross.

[Snowbike Mike]

I love it like the.

[Gary Whitta]

Because the Angelina Jolie one was kind of like neither one thing nor the other, I don't think. And then the. The newer version with Alicia Vikander. Right. They were clearly going for the shadow of the Tomb Raider.

[Snowbike Mike]

The.

[Gary Whitta]

The newer games. Right. The more I'm all fucked up and I've got a pickaxe and like that there was a new look. They basically reinvented her look.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes.

[Gary Whitta]

And they went to that for this. I mean they went all the way back to the fucking red sunglasses. That's like Tomb Raider one. It's like an OG super cool. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

And again, the final thing on my gaming mind is not a gaming thing, but it's a you thing, Gary. See you in hell. Episode one has released. I listened to it.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, you did?

[Snowbike Mike]

I want more people to listen to it. You know what, Gary? I had a ton of fun with it.

[Gary Whitta]

It's fun, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

I was like, man, I'm. I'm smiling. I'm enjoying this game.

[Gary Whitta]

My first time writing comedy.

[Snowbike Mike]

Really?

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. I mean like full on. I mean I try to make jokes. I put jokes into everything I write. But like the first time, like can I write like a half hour quote unquote sitcom? Yeah. And it's been doing really well. I want to give you the. Give you the headlines. Top 50 Apple podcasts fiction chart.

[Snowbike Mike]

Nailed it.

[Gary Whitta]

Top 10 in comedy fiction.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

Top 2% of all fiction podcasts worldwide and top 5% of all podcasts worldwide. That includes Joe Rogan and all that shit.

[Snowbike Mike]

Everybody clap it up for Gary. One time.

[Gary Whitta]

Clap for a debut show with only one episode in the feed. That's not doing to. The thing is, Mike I did not think this through at all.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

I said, let's put a pilot episode out there and see if there's an appetite for.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh.

[Gary Whitta]

Without giving any thought to what I would do if there was an appetite for more, because I always assume the worst. But it has been very successful. And now, obviously, like, I have to go do episode two.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm very. I'm running around right now scrambling, trying to put that. To kind of put it together very quick. The good news is, having done episode one, I can. It's much easier to do episode two because all the, like, foundational stuff's already there.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course.

[Gary Whitta]

I already spoke to Shannon and Tommy and John Cryer and Paul Shear and.

[Snowbike Mike]

Great voices all coming back. Voices, yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

All coming back for more. And I'm excited to get episode two into the feed as quickly. I'm writing it right now.

[Snowbike Mike]

Good job.

[Gary Whitta]

Go to See you in Hell tv.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

Has all the links so you can go to Apple Podcasts, Spotify Pocket Casts, you know the phrase Mike wherever you get your podcasts. And we're at a point now, this is really interesting. Apple is paying attention to it and spotted, because they look at the numbers and they go, oh, this might be a show. This is a show that we might want to algorithmically bump. And so if we keep the show momentum going, that will. You know, it'll. It'll grow. So check it out. And if you're on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, which are the two platforms that allow you to leave, like, a rating and a comment, please do that because that helps the algorithm. Immense.

[Snowbike Mike]

I like that.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. So you go to See you in Hell TV and you can actually listen to the show. The first episode. There you go. Like, right in the. Right in the player. And this is that. What. What's embedded there right now is the most recent episode, which is. Which was just me putting, like, a little explainer into the feed.

[Snowbike Mike]

Like. Yeah, yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, yeah. So I didn't think we were gonna have to do an episod. Now we have to. So it's on. It's. It's on its way. So, yeah, it's really. It's been very. No, I did not write of all of it. And record ahead. Langley M. Neely, perhaps. Come on, give me a link to your podcast where you wrote the whole. The. This is hard work. You know, I'm not getting paid. I'm not getting paid. There's no money in this, Gary.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's all the things that are on my mind before we start the show. What about you? How have you been? What have you been up to? What's the latest and greatest with you, Gary?

[Gary Whitta]

Arc Raiders, bro.

[Snowbike Mike]

You've been, you've been going topside, I've.

[Gary Whitta]

Been going even Spenza. Going, going topside.

[Snowbike Mike]

Damn.

[Gary Whitta]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you the way that game is so sweaty coming off of Hell Divers, which is, you know, obviously a very, you know, I have 2,000 plus hours in hell Divers. That's, that's my jam. But you know, Hell Divers is obviously, you know, you can get into some sweaty situations there, but generally it's like you, you land and you're like, right, let's go chop it up, let's go find some, some automatons or bugs to like wipe out. And you generally like this full on, like, you know, just get in there, right? Just steam in. That is not art. Raiders is the exact opposite of that. It's like, oh, there's a low level drone. I better my pants and hide in a bush for half an hour because that, that thing can, can kill me.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's a whole delicate dance. That thing can.

[Gary Whitta]

It's much, it's so much more sneaking around. And that's before you even add the PvP aspect.

[Snowbike Mike]

Don't, don't get me coming around you.

[Gary Whitta]

Because I know you are the toxic man in gaming. Everybody.

[Snowbike Mike]

Holy shit at me.

[Gary Whitta]

Mike. Mike, is that like, he's that guy. He's the mind. The guy with a smiling face with a fucking knife behind his back waiting for you to turn around. Nicest guy socially in video games. The most toxic I have ever, ever played with Gary.

[Snowbike Mike]

I drop into the game and the first things in my mind is, okay, take it slow and listen for the gunshot because there's jabronis out there. Like you just said, oh my God, here comes some mark after me. Do I wait and let it go or do I have to shoot it? And the moment you shoot, I'm running after that.

[Gary Whitta]

That game, that game should win some kind of an award for sound design because sound is such an important part of that game. You got to play with headphones. You got to play with the directional audio. Anytime you hear anything, you're like, oh, what the fuck is that? Because like every encounter is a big deal, right? There's no, there's no, there's no bad guys in that game that you can just like mow them down, right? Like even the lowest level drones require a certain amount of, you know, you gotta, they can kill.

[Snowbike Mike]

You gotta be good.

[Gary Whitta]

Like, and so you Go top. So they've successfully done as soon as you're topside. Why is Leah texting me? She knows I'm live. Hold on.

[Snowbike Mike]

She gotta just check in. Gary. That's what a partner does.

[Gary Whitta]

So top side. This is how I play. Mike.

[Snowbike Mike]

Tell me. Gary. I want to hear. I want to hear about.

[Gary Whitta]

We go up top, right. And I. I prefer to. I. I've played some. To me, it's not that fun a game to play solo.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

You really want to play with.

[Snowbike Mike]

You want to be with.

[Gary Whitta]

You can't play solo, and it's fine. Yeah, but it's really a game. You want to play with at least one other person and ideally three people together. Here's my vibe.

[Snowbike Mike]

We'll.

[Gary Whitta]

We'll go. We'll go up, grab one box like some rusty tools or whatever. I'm like, fine, let's. Let's go. Let's extract. How quickly do we get out of here? I don't want to stay up. I don't stay every minute you're up there. Like, it's scary.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

So. And the PvP aspect is. Is a mess. So I was playing with Adam boys last night, who was already prestiged and is. Is a. Is big time into it and also is a bit toxic as well.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

He taught me this. Let's go hide in this room. And he put a barricade. He put a barricade kit up on the inside of the door, and he said, so when people come through that and then you put a trip mine on the other people come through that barricade, you're gonna him up. Yeah. So like he's toxic as well. But so we. So we were playing last night, right? We had a bunch of gear and it's time to extract. And obviously that's the sweaty thing about these extraction games, right? Is you've still got to get out.

[Snowbike Mike]

You still got to get out.

[Gary Whitta]

You might have some stuff in your safe pocket, but you want to get.

[Snowbike Mike]

And you know, I'm camping the extra.

[Gary Whitta]

Well, that's the thing.

[Snowbike Mike]

So we know I'm camping.

[Gary Whitta]

So we're heading back to these. We're heading back to the elevator, right? And there's these two other guys behind us. And Adam's like, why are these guys following us and you. And we're in the. We're in the party chat, right? Where they can't hear us. You can also do prox chat where they. And everyone can hear you. So me and Adam are talking in the. In the proxy and he's like, these Sorry. In the party, these motherfuckers. I think they're. I think they're going to try and the extract.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

And so Adam starts talking to them in proxy, going, you last, like, why are you following us? And like, oh, we're looking for the water treatment plant.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's a lie.

[Gary Whitta]

That's back that way. Look on the map. No, no, I'm pretty sure it's this way. No, no, you're following us. What? Oh, you know, I was like, yeah, I'm getting a bad vibe off of these guys. These guys are going to fucking camp us. And so we get over to the elevator and of course what they want to do is, is, is gank you right at the elevator, take all your. And then extract with all your.

[Snowbike Mike]

I love doing that.

[Gary Whitta]

This is the.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course I love doing that.

[Gary Whitta]

Extraction shooter 101, right? They call them rats.

[Snowbike Mike]

You bring the cheese to me. Yeah, I eat the cheese, right?

[Gary Whitta]

So. And so we're at the elevator, the doors open and you've got. Now you've got two minutes, right, to get in. But it's like they're going to fudgeing snipe us as we try to. Because they were like 50, maybe 50 yards, 50 meters from the extraction. And we know they're on the other side like waiting for us to run these. And so, and so Adam, he said, I'm gonna pop some smoke. And so he popped. He threw a bunch of smoke into the elevator and took. And then we ran concealer. Not. It's not like a super exciting, but it's one of those things like, oh, man, that was so cool. Much like Helldivers success, the success of these games is based on those moments, you know, where you've got to like the next thing. I got to tell Mike about this that happened last night in Arc Raiders because it is that game that develops those kind of viral, cinematic, those kind of moments. You're like, oh, that was so I got to clip that. Like, it's. That it has that. It's got that same. Even though it's a very, very different game. Hell Divers is like just steam in and start fighting. Arc radies is much more like, be careful, hide. Like, don't just start firing at things and. And be nervous anytime you're around other players because you just don't know. And the matchmaking is really, really good. They have this like aggression based matchmaking system where I'm not very sweaty. I don't, I don't. I don't necessarily want a PvP a lot so when I go in I'm not seeing, I'm seeing a lot of. When I see other players like me who immediately go, don't shoot. You know I'm friendly, I don't want, I want any trouble. But when you go in with someone. So some. I'm playing with this other guy, Dave Chen. I don't know if you know Dave but been around forever. Cool guy. I used to play the division with him a lot.

[Snowbike Mike]

So we're going to talk about the.

[Gary Whitta]

Division today and Dave said bear in mind I, I do I, I, I'm a rat. I kill a lot of people in this game. So now you're matched with me. They've probably put us in a lobby or where there are other rats. So just be and yeah. And so it, so it proved what a game. I mean I don't know.

[Snowbike Mike]

Favorite map. What's that Favorite map So far I.

[Gary Whitta]

Am, I don't have a ton of. I like Bluegate.

[Snowbike Mike]

Bluegate is cool.

[Gary Whitta]

Blue gate is city. I just dropped into Stella Montis which that is. I'm not quite right. What I learned is I'm not quite ready to go there yet. But I'm loving it. I don't know it came out. I saw Shroud was going like this should have been game of the year but I think it came out like an awkward.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think it came out of the.

[Gary Whitta]

Was it in consideration?

[Snowbike Mike]

I don't know when the cut off is. I don't know the time. I think it was right there.

[Gary Whitta]

The game awards have that weird cut off. Right. Maybe it'll be next year.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think it was.

[Gary Whitta]

I think it was not absolutely one of the best games I've played in a very long time.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Arc Raiders man. It's one of those games where I'm gifting it to a couple of my friends. I'm like let me. I'll buy it for you. Like you've got to come play with my brother in law's playing it. Probably the most diverse group of people among my friends that I've seen playing like any one game at a particular time. So I can I. If I log on to log into Art Raiders there's very likely at least one person I know is on and so I can find someone to match. Loving it. Art. My recommendation.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary, you know what else I love? I love talking video game news with you. Let's jump in to it. Of course. Don't forget if you're watching live you can be part of the show by super chatting on YouTube.com kind of funny games. And you can also correct us if we get things wrong by going to kind of funny dot com. You're wrong anytime we mess up. Don't forget. We'd like to thank our Patreon producers con [e-mail] kind of funny. Thank you to Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm going to read out that super chat real quick. Please read it because I thought the same thing. I'll need to self revive for normies like me. One of the reasons why I don't like to play solo.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Is not that you don't. Not that I don't want to have someone like who's watching me. Like I want to fight with other people like with other players on my side. It's just that if you get knocked, that's it. There's no self revive. There's no, there's no way to get back up. Right. So there's very little margin for it. There's no what I would like at least with another. At least with another player.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. They.

[Gary Whitta]

They can revive you. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

I would like to just be able to reach into my pocket, drop the stem. Hey you down me. I've sweet talked to you. I've convinced you to pick me back up. You don't have a stem. I do.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

I grab it.

[Gary Whitta]

So you can revive other players on your team but you cannot revive other players who are not on it. Unless you have a defibrillator with you which is an item you have to craft.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. It would be nice like if you've got one on you. Like yeah, that's a good idea. Or even carry a defibrillator so that someone else can use it on you.

[Snowbike Mike]

You have. I've got.

[Gary Whitta]

Just pull it out of my pocket. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Got to be in your safe pocket though. That's. That's a good idea. You should be a game designer.

[Snowbike Mike]

I like that. I like that. Well, let's start with what is and forever will be. The Roper reports. It's time for some news. Today we have five stories. Gary Wida Story number one. A mystery product code sparks rumors of a new Switch 2 model. This coming from Ollie Reynolds at Nintendo Life. We got a blue sky. That's a B.S. tim. An unusual discovery on Nintendo's official website has got folks chatting about a potential new Switch 2 model. The discovery comes via Blue sky user Doot sky who notes that a new product code labeled OSM can be uncovered on the Nintendo account portal page. They state that requesting the OSM product code returns an image of the Switch 2 or 3. While folks over at Reset Era claim that another code, any other code results in an error message. So what does this mean? Are we due for a new Switch 2 model already? Well, no one know. Well, no. Hold your horses. In a follow up post, dut sky quite rightly states that the original switch model, I. E. The light OLED, etc. All had similar product codes. HAE had HDH and he g the Bee product code for the Switch 2 shares no similarities with OSM. Gary Whitta, are you ready for another Switch model?

[Gary Whitta]

I mean it's not, it's not speculative, speculative to say that there's going to be some kind of switch to new model, right? Because of course there is. Switch 2 has been a massive hit.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, right.

[Gary Whitta]

Hugely, hugely successful. Rightly so. It's a great system and much like the, much like the original Switch, right. Which spawned first a light. The light model, right. And then oled. Oled.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yep.

[Gary Whitta]

Do you, do you think there will be a. I mean do you think it would. There will be a switch to light with like the same idea, like non detachable, non dockable?

[Snowbike Mike]

I think they found a lot of success with the Switch one light. I think they found that having a cheaper model of version similar to what we talk about.

[Gary Whitta]

I like the Switch Light.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think they found a lot of success with that and I would not be surprised when they look at the Switch two and go, well, what if, what if we can get manufacturing costs a little bit cheaper? What if we can sell it at a little bit cheaper price? What if we can get more people on board with this? I think, yeah, it's a good.

[Gary Whitta]

Unless, unless there's some like technological or economical economic reason not to which I, I don't understand what, what that necessarily would be. I think it makes sense for them to follow the very successful playbook they had with Switch 1. Right. Launch the launch the OG then a light model course and then an OLED. You know, it was one of the few things that I was disappointed about when they showed the Switch 2 was no OLED. Right. Because everyone, you, you know, once you, once you've seen an OLED screen, you can't go back.

[Snowbike Mike]

It changes you.

[Gary Whitta]

It's like the, the deep rich blacks and there's nothing like it. It's OLED or no lead in, in my house, you got, you got it. You got to have the OLED display. It's so good. And now the thing is when they actually, when I actually Saw it. Why this looks. Screen's good, right? Screen's bright. I think it is. I think like if you look to talk to like the Digital Foundry guys or like the real fucking nerdy pixel counters, they will tell you the like the refresh rate, whatever. Like it's not, it's actually not the best. That screen could be a lot better right. Than it is. It's a very good screen, but it could be better. And so I think an OLED version makes a lot of sense and obviously it's very, still very, very early in the Switch 2's life cycle. Right. The fact that they are able to dig out like a prototype image or whatever that might be. Yeah, doesn't. It doesn't in any way indicate that anything is imminent. But they probably Nintendo, don't forget these are companies plan ahead. They probably had their whole roadmap like okay, so we'll launch the, we'll launch the OG Switch 2 and then we'll do the light and the OLED along, you know, at these points down the road. Like they already knew what they were doing.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course.

[Gary Whitta]

So just the fact that there's like there might be plans somewhere that someone's been able to data mine doesn't mean anything is necessarily imminent. It's too, it's too early for a refresh rate. Switch 2 is still very new, only a year old.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course.

[Gary Whitta]

Of course. Gary, I think we're, I think we're at roughly the anniversary right now, aren't we? Like one year of the Switch 2. It's, it's in that.

[Snowbike Mike]

It was in June, I thought.

[Gary Whitta]

Was it?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, we only had no June, right? Oh, maybe summer Game fest.

[Gary Whitta]

Seven or eight months.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, I think so. Gary. I don't think it's been that long.

[Gary Whitta]

It felt, it felt longer. But yeah, so I mean all the more reason, right? It's, it's too early. Like how, how long after the Switch one was the light a while.

[Snowbike Mike]

Right? Yeah. Chad, keep me honest. Help me out. Look up when the Switch light.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, let's ask, let's ask, let's ask. Chat kfgd.

[Snowbike Mike]

Well now the question is Gary, I think because it went, I thought it went Switch one, Switch one with a better battery life than the Switch line.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh well that's, I mean that's, that's a non sexy refresh.

[Snowbike Mike]

The better for me personally like when we talk oled, right. It would be kind of a punch in the gut to be six months later, a year later and be like.

[Gary Whitta]

No, of course, yeah, of course.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course I got the oled. Then you'd be like, ah, like why did I waste my money? But I do think a Switch Lite. Kevin, you bring up the blue sky, the bs. There's Tim, you can see it's got kind of the rounded edges and of.

[Gary Whitta]

Course it's just when I, when I first saw that image that to me looks like a Switch light.

[Snowbike Mike]

Switch light right there.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, because it is more rounded. Yeah. So look, somebody in the chat just said so, so two, so 2019. So two years after the Switch came out we got the Light. And then two more years after that we got the oled. I think that Cadence, you know, there's no reason why that.

[Snowbike Mike]

So you don't think this year. No, you don't do a holiday this year? Maybe lined up with a Pokemon too early?

[Gary Whitta]

Okay, I think so.

[Snowbike Mike]

Well, keep an eye out there.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean again with Nintendo. Who the knows Nintendo gonna. Nintendo.

[Snowbike Mike]

They. They're gonna do what they want to do is right.

[Gary Whitta]

But yeah, obviously there's gonna be more Switch to variants. Right. Because it's, it's hugely successful.

[Snowbike Mike]

I saw someone in the chat, Gary, when they took the product code osm, they put on screen menu. Could it be a different change up to just the, the, the theme that we see with the.

[Gary Whitta]

Wasn't it something about ounce? Did you, did you see that?

[Snowbike Mike]

No. What's that?

[Gary Whitta]

That? Ounce was apparently the code name for Switch 2 when it was in development.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, okay.

[Gary Whitta]

So there's some like ounce smaller model or something like that. There's another, There was another. People are going like what could OSM means? Yes, it's all pie in the sky. Who the hell knows? We, we know it's coming. We probably know like it's unlikely they're going to deviate too much from, you know, a light model makes a lot of sense. OLED model makes a lot of sense. Other than that, I don't know. The OLED model might make less sense in the sense that the Switch 2 screen is so much better than the Switch 1 screen in terms of like just vibrancy. It's still not an oled, but it's much better. It's not. I don't think you would necessarily. When you put a Switch one OG model and a Switch to. And a Switch OLED next to each other. Night and day. Right? Night and day. I don't know if it would be night and day between the Switch to OG and a Switch to oled. It might be, but we'd have to see.

[Snowbike Mike]

We'll ask Tim. He's got all the toys. We'll ask Tim to bring it in. But a Switch Lite, we feel good with a switch to light. Follow the playbook that you already had. Just follow the switch one.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean the Switch Playbook was very, very lucrative for all concerned.

[Snowbike Mike]

I like that. Well, Gary, we're going to move on to story number two, but we've been talking a lot, so let's take a quick word from our sponsors and then we'll be back with story number two.

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[Snowbike Mike]

All right, welcome back. Let's talk about story number two. A week after talking up the Division 3 boss Julian Garrity has left Ubisoft for EA. Andy Robinson at VGC reports A week after talking up to the in development, Division 3 series creative director Julian Garrity has left Ubisoft's massive studio to join Electronic Arts. It's been confirmed. In a statement on social media, Ubisoft confirmed that the division series and Star Wars Outlaws Lead has joined Battlefield Studios. Quote while we'll miss him, his mark will lead will live on at Massive and will continue to bring the world he's been a part of, he's been a part of creating to our players for years to come. It said for our players, don't worry agents, our team who built this world with Julian are still here carrying it forward with an ambitious, unchanged commitment for the future with the division to the Division 2 survivors, the Division Resurgence and the Division 3 end quote. In a further statement, Ubisoft said Division veterans Janik Banchero and Matthias Carlson would continue as creative directors for the Division 2 and the Division 3 while massive veteran Magnus Jensen has rejoined to lead extraction mode, the Division 2 survivors. It's not clear what role Garrity will take at Battlefield Studios. His appointment comes shortly after the traffic the the traffic death of Battlefield franchise boss Vince Zampella, who died in a car accident in December. Rest in peace there, Vince. Really sad stuff on that one that we reported on but now we have some movement here. Gary in the video game world a week after hyping up the Division 3. Yeah leaving for EA. What's your thoughts on that?

[Gary Whitta]

I think it's potentially a big a big get for EA and a big loss for Ubisoft. Julian is he's the man right. He's very very senior guy there and I think was probably again I'm not privy to like what who's, who's actually who they're but like from a public facing standpoint, Julian Was like very instrumental in the success of these games. The division Outlaws and other things that have been hits for Ubisoft at a time when, you know, hits for Ubisoft is kind of thin on the ground, right? Again, the vibes are off Ubisoft and have been for a while. The division is for me, it's. It's my favorite thing that they have. You know, I love that. I love the division. And funnily enough, the headline for me was oh, so they aren't. Not today. Like when I first heard about this the other day, oh, so they are making. For some reason I kind of slept on this and didn't know that they were making Division 3. I thought they were done. I can't fucking wait for that because that's my. That's my other game. We never, you and I never played the division.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, we didn't get together but time ago.

[Gary Whitta]

It's a good fucking game.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's a great game. And me and Greg were here just a week or two ago hyping up what we heard from Julian and the team, talking about the Division 3, saying it's going to make big waves. It's going to be a big splash. It's going to be a return to form. And it was like an exciting moment. Right? But as well, it's been a long time since the division has been around, right? Division 2 has had its tail end. We're kind of like holding on for. Waiting for more Division, but we're not there yet. And to get the excitement to get that hype and then to see you leave, that's also a tough one there. Gary as well.

[Gary Whitta]

The reason, the reason why I, I want to play Division with you and we could do it in Division 2 right now or wait maybe better to wait for Division 33 and see what they're doing is like, I'm guessing that they will continue this because it's been. One of the most popular parts of the Division games is the Dark Zone. Dude, we got to chop it up in the Dark Zone we talked about that is one of the best implementations of like a PvP mode within a PvE game that I' you know, where you like, you have to go through the special gate and you check in, you know, and then you, when you walk through the other side, you know, like. Yeah, because they, you know, in the law, right, they, they cordoned off a particular, particular area that was like more fucked up than anywhere else. And we're just going to call that the Dark Zone. And that's your PvP zone.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

As soon as you go through that door, you know. Right. It's. It's on.

[Snowbike Mike]

Right.

[Gary Whitta]

And I feel like for you, with the way that you like to do PvP, that is something that we should definitely explore.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's so interesting because I played the division Dark Zone and I enjoyed it. But I think now further, a couple years later and having Extraction shooters where they are and the excitement that I have with them, I think the Division 3 has a really great opportunity. Me and Greg talked about this as well. To really make a big imprint here on the extraction shooter side of things and have that whole part of the division blow up in a big way for the multiplayer side. It's going to be pretty exciting.

[Gary Whitta]

Do we know what. Did they say anything about what Julian's going to be doing? Ea, did you mention Battlefield like, or do they.

[Snowbike Mike]

Do we know he has joined Battlefield Studios? The role has not been announced yet. Yet.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

But of course you talk about a big time name. Of course, Vince and the tragic passing there with Vince, it's like, what exactly?

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, big, big shoes to fill.

[Snowbike Mike]

Right.

[Gary Whitta]

But Julian has got very large feet.

[Snowbike Mike]

I mean, as well, EA has put a bunch of smaller studios underneath the new umbrella of Battlefield Studios name now. And so like someone needs to run that. Someone needs to keep the course going because they had such a great showing this year. Battlefield 6 came out and it was very, very good. And so they need to keep the Battlefield name on the roll right now and cannot miss.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. Like I said, I think it's a. I think it's a big get for EA and like a big loss for Ubisoft. A time where Ubisoft can't really afford to take that many L's, Right. They're racking them up. I don't know, like Assassin's Creed, Shadows was good, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, but it wasn't great, I think is the problem. I think a franchise like that and Shadows and being in the setting that it was, I think it needed to be more than just good. And unfortunately, I don't think it was.

[Gary Whitta]

It's. It's unfortun fortunate as well that they finally went to Japan the same time that Yote came out. Right. That was not.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's a conversation. But I mean, I think both companies here, you have the good and the bad with. Right. Both of them need some wins, both of them have some losses recently. Both of them need more positivity going into them. Right. And so either way, you jump off one ship, you go to the other ship, you can talk smack about both sides, but it is a big role.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, I don't think Ubisoft is like totally lost. I know the narrative around. It's very, very easy to be negative about Ubisoft and I'm not in any way a defender of Ubisoft. Ubisoft, because I think they have done a lot of stupid, you know, shitty stuff. Like, remember when they were trying to do NFTs like what the. Very, very silly.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

But, you know, obviously they're their big pirate game kind of.

[Snowbike Mike]

And yeah, that sucked.

[Gary Whitta]

It did not live up to the mega, mega hype. But Shadows was good. Outlaws was very good.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

You know, they're still gonna have Black.

[Snowbike Mike]

Flag remake coming back. That might sway the fans.

[Gary Whitta]

Ubisoft is still capable of making really good games.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

The problem is they only, at this point, they only really make that one type of game.

[Snowbike Mike]

Well, they're all good at.

[Gary Whitta]

They want to focus their formula.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. They've talked about their big flagship titles like we've talked about with many other companies. Right. And they've identified that, like their flagship titles are Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, you have Rainbow Six Siege and Tom Clancy.

[Gary Whitta]

And the division is part of that.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes, of course. And so they've identified Ghost Recon.

[Gary Whitta]

Although they still doing Ghost Recon.

[Snowbike Mike]

They don't make Ghost Recon. But I mean, it's under the Tom Clancy umbrella.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

At any moment you could. But with Rainbow Six Siege being how big that it is, you don't really need to figure out another one. They did try. What was the recent shooter that didn't make it either?

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, X Defiant.

[Snowbike Mike]

X Defiant, Yeah. That would have been your Tom Clancy type game.

[Gary Whitta]

You're hero shooters are hard right now. It's obviously a very competitive space to be in.

[Snowbike Mike]

So. Yeah, I mean, they have their formula. They know what they do. I think the fans want them to do other things like Prince of Persia, that had a really great woman lost crown recently. Of course, the Crew Motorfest continues to sell, even though I don't know a single person who plays the crew. But somehow the crew continues to just survive and be a part of it. So they have their games there.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. But definitely, definitely a big loss. It may not. I don't know how DEEP Division 3 is into development. I think pretty cozy. I know the last thing I heard Julian say was like, oh, yes, it's, it's, you know, it's going to be great. Like the way he was talking about it made it sound like they were pretty far along in development, basically. So I'm excited about that.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. With him leaving, they have already had the groundwork, the foundation of it all. So I'm sure.

[Gary Whitta]

And I don't want to sound like a broken record for Division 3. Please give us cross play. Please give us cross progression. When division either. The first one, I can't remember which one. It was like, you guys, I. I really wanted to play with you guys, but you guys were all on PlayStation. I was on Xbox. It's like those. Those stupid artificial walls. They got to come down. I don't know why Helldiver still doesn't do it. Has cross play but not cross progression.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Raiders came out of the gate day one. Cross play, cross play, cross progression. That should be that at this point, a point now where that should not be considered a luxury. It should be considered the standard.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

It's like, if you don't have it, why not? Like you should. It's clearly. It can be done. Do it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Chad, we have a super chat coming in from Yell Singh for $2. Who says, when was the last time Ubisoft made a real banger. Chat sound off. When was the last time Ubisoft made a real banger? Gary, do you have one off the top of your mind? You have to go back.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, Outlaws was a banger, wasn't. I mean, I didn't play it, but like, the reviews were great. People seem to like that game a lot.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, he's going without.

[Gary Whitta]

As Star wars games go, I feel like they feel like they did very. They did very well.

[Snowbike Mike]

I thought their last Far Cry was one of their best Since Far Cry 3. I think it was a good.

[Gary Whitta]

What was the last one? Six.

[Snowbike Mike]

Six. Yeah. I think it was pretty split down the middle there. I don't think many people liked it, but I thought it was their best since. For a long time. Of course. You go back to Lost Crown Prince of Persia. Okay, we can stop right there. Lost Crown Prince of Persia was really, really.

[Gary Whitta]

Odyssey was very, very good. My.

[Snowbike Mike]

My.

[Gary Whitta]

My wife who plays all those games, loved it. She didn't like Ragnarok or. She's played a fair bit of Shadow. She. I think Odyssey is still by far her favorite.

[Snowbike Mike]

You also have one of the biggest live service games in the world. Rainbow Six Seeds continues the truck on. So like, yeah, hard to say when they didn't have a banger. When Rainbow Six is still around for sure.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. And again, the division games, they're really good.

[Snowbike Mike]

We'll see story number three, Amazon Games, New World, Aernum to go offline in January 2027. This coming from Sophie McAvoy at GI Biz. Amazon Games is shutting down New World aternum, announcing that the MMO will go offline on January 31, 2027.

[Gary Whitta]

I didn't mean. Sorry, I just saw in the chat. I didn't mean Ragnarok. I meant Valhalla. Valhalla, the Assassin's Creed game.

[Snowbike Mike]

The game was delisted yesterday, though players who purchased the game prior to this date will be able to play it until the servers are shut down next year. From July 20, 2026, players will no longer be able to purchase in game currency or any other in game items. While there will be no new content for the remainder of New World's life, the developer quote will continue to monitor bugs and performance to ensure the game runs smoothly as things wind down. End quote. We will. We want to thank players for their dedication and passion, the development team said. We are grateful for the time spent crafting the world of Aeternum with you. Together we built something special. While we are saddened to say goodbye, we're honored that we were able to share so much with the community. Last October, Amazon Games announced development would pause on New World and and that it would receive no further content updates. Gary Another mmo, another live service game hitting the Stop shutting down.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, I'm grateful for the opportunity to talk about this actually, because I got a couple of thoughts on this. First of all, I did actually play quite a bit of New World when it first came out.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes. And a lot of people did.

[Gary Whitta]

Me and Adam and Felicia and some of our little group were playing it and I think it was largely coming out of like looking for something that could scratch that Warcraft itch. I'm never going back to Warcraft, but you know, any. I played around with other MMOs that are, you know, similar to that. Looking, looking for, I don't know, looking for like Warcraft methadone, basically. Like what, you know what. You scratch that itch in the same way but not be as, as, as dangerous to me. And New World is like we used to Joe, we used to call it the Amazon Basics MMO because it's, it's not that great. Like the law. I, I found the law to be in the world building to be really boring. It was all right. It was just like, it's just, it's just all right. And it was actually Dune Awakening was the game that, that to me was the first game to scratch that kind of MMO itch. Yeah, that's a really good game. I enjoyed that immensely. But no out of the gate. New World was like. I remember they had some, they put up some big numbers, obviously enough to do it, to do it, to do the big expansion, but it did not, it obviously did not perform long term. And so. Go ahead.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, it's interesting, Gary, because Amazon Game Studios, right, made a splash, made a scene, three MMOs, Lost Ark, THR and Liberty. And then New World, a Turnum all came out and they, each one of them had a little bit of motion there.

[Gary Whitta]

Especially thought it was continuing to worth. Worth continuing to invest.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm pretty sure New World, the Turnum came to console with a refresh of the whole tutorial and onboarding experience.

[Gary Whitta]

I remember they added was a big deal.

[Snowbike Mike]

So, yeah, very.

[Gary Whitta]

Not enough. In the end.

[Snowbike Mike]

I was impressed by Amazon coming out with these three games having some sort of motion being kind of good. And then, yeah, to turn around and say, oh, we're shutting down the service.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, we played it for like they had a lot of problems, but they never figured out their economy. The economy was broken. I think there was a lot going on there. What I want to say in general, because it's interesting that this comes very hot on the heels of the news about Anthem shutting down as well. Finally, right? And I think a lot of people, when they were like, Anthem was still going, you know, like the. I thought that was dead already. And. But it's really, really. And obviously a lot of these games, they, they, you'll notice they kind of taper them down. Is it like we're going to stop the, you know, we're going to stop you from like putting any more investment into the game, like, no more, you know, you can't buy anything new or whatever. Like, we're going to start kind of phasing this down and then eventually comes the moment where they finally turn off the lights. And I always find it to be a really, really sad moment when this happens. I've said a million times, for me, the games that are meaningful for me, I don't think I'm think of them as a game that I play, but as a place that I go. Like I go to Arrakis, you know, I, you know, or I feel like I'm on the Normandy, you know, and I'm going to, I'm going to the Citadel and I just feel like I'm in these places and you get them or I'm in Azeroth, you know, and you feel like, you feel like you're in these places. And so when that world goes away, there's a. There's. There's something really sad about it. I. I'm old enough to remember Microsoft back in the day when everyone was quite. Was chasing EverQuest. This is even pre Warcraft, I think Microsoft had one called Asheron's Call.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

And it didn't survive in the long term. And that was one of the earliest. Remember the things I remember where they always have these really sad moments where they know, they. They know the end is coming. Right. And there's very few people left, which is why the game is closing down. But the people that left are the ones that care about the game the most. Right. And that's the saddest thing. And like, you'll always see these, like, final moments where everyone will congregate in a town square or whatever.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Say their goodbyes and like, you know, whatever. And then they finally flip out the lights and it's. It. There's a sadness to it. You know, it just inherently is kind of sad. Like I said, Anthem was down to it again. I didn't even realize it was still going. It was obviously down to its bare bones and there's only a small amount of people left there. But when that, that moment when you finally like switch off the life support, is that the patient, like, he's never coming back. Still sad when you have to pull the plug.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes. You and I was such a rich MMO background. Right. You and I always talked about World of Warcraft, but yeah, you bring up EverQuest, I think of Guild Wars. I think of. Of course, City of Heroes, one of my favorites. Right.

[Gary Whitta]

It's like so many that you Matrix Online, which I. Back in the day was so much fun.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

I remember when they pulled the plug on the Matrix.

[Snowbike Mike]

Crazy. Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

It's like I said, and this is the danger of life. Life Service games. It's part of the reason why. It's one of the few reasons why I think you're allowed to get excited about a game being like, super outside of a. Like a, you know, a console war thing. Oh, my game's super more popular than yours or whatever. Like when I'm playing Arc Raiders, it's nice to know that 12 million people are playing and it's a massive hit because I don't have to worry about them pulling the plug on it anytime soon.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course. Of course. You know, that one's sad. So you have one full year. You have a little bit over a year right now. Of course, January 2027 will be the End.

[Gary Whitta]

That's probably the longest amount of time they've given you as a warning that sometimes, like, we're going to pull the plug in a couple of weeks or whatever. That's a.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's you like a full year.

[Gary Whitta]

Long time. A long time to kind of press X to pay your respects. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Spend some time. Let's go to our final or our fourth, our final new story. Gary. Story number four. LEGO Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Final battle set announced features Link and Zelda fighting Ganon.

[Gary Whitta]

This coming from my wife's going to want and so is my kid. Oh, God.

[Snowbike Mike]

Lego has officially unveiled the highly anticipated the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.

[Gary Whitta]

Just skip to the msrp. Tell me the damage. Tell me the damage.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's interactive elements amid the ruins of hyrule Castle. The N64 classics climactic battle is brought to life at the touch of a button as Minifigure of Ganondorf rises up ready to take on Link and Zelda. Inside the set's crumbling tower, three hearts can also be uncovered. Included in the set are the Master Sword and Hylian Sealed and the Megaton Hammer. Ganondorf's minifigure also comes with a snazzy cloth cape. Ready, Gary? The final battle will be a 1003 piece set design that launches on March 1st.

[Gary Whitta]

Can I. Can I take a guess, please? Can I take a guess at the price?

[Snowbike Mike]

You should know this. This seems pretty on point for lego.

[Gary Whitta]

So we bought the. We got the decu. The Deku Tree, which is a really nice set and that was expensive. I'm gonna say for a thousand pieces.

[Snowbike Mike]

Thousand pieces, big IP collab with Nintendo.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm gonna say. 149-01-50, something like that. I think it's going to be on the lower end.

[Snowbike Mike]

1, 2, 9.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, there you go.

[Snowbike Mike]

129.

[Gary Whitta]

Way more reasonable than I knocked.

[Snowbike Mike]

That feels Lego to me right there.

[Gary Whitta]

The Deco tree is.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay, that's.

[Gary Whitta]

That's a bigger. That's a lot more expensive.

[Snowbike Mike]

This is badass, though. This looks very cool, Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, it's funny because what's interesting, I don't know if Leah ever played. She's a big Zelda person. Breath of the Wild is like a massive game in my house. Yeah, my. My daughter picks it up and like just like starts it over and replays it like just from scratch every now and again. Ocarina at a time. Obviously many people will tell you, I mean, Breath of the Wild has probably upset this to Some extent. But like a lot of people will tell you for the longest time it was considered the best Zelda game. I think at this point you'd have to say one of the two new ones. Right. Either Breath of the Wild. But a lot of people would. Might while still, like, if going to argue for a. For a Zelda game that isn't one of those two, it can only be Ocarina of Time.

[Snowbike Mike]

That's what you don't.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, don't you think, like, what.

[Snowbike Mike]

Else, you know, what Gary never played to the past?

[Gary Whitta]

Maybe. I don't know. Like, you know, again, if you want to just think about, you know, historically, like how important these games are. But yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's clearly. It's it's way up there. I mean, there's nothing. Don't think there's anything else that comes close.

[Snowbike Mike]

Are you a LEGO guy at your household? Oh, yeah. Buy this.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh. I mean, I wouldn't because I'm not a Zelda guy, but I know that. I know that we're going to be getting that set because everyone else in my house is a big Zelda.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Fan.

[Snowbike Mike]

We're buying this.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. We got the Secu tree. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary Whitta.

[Gary Whitta]

Yes.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's big news. It's also a big set. But if I wanted something smaller, Segue.

[Gary Whitta]

Where would I. I saw that coming, actually.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, I know. You felt it. Where would we go?

[Gary Whitta]

Well, you'd go to the page that has the line on it because I still don't. Still don't remember it. Hold on. Let's see here. I. I'll get this. I will get it. You'd go to our last story, the WE News Channel, where we cover all the small news items you need to know about Gary.

[Snowbike Mike]

Let's jump into Wii News from Famitsu. The live action Legend of Zelda movie will be streamed exclusively on Netflix following its theatrical and home entertainment release periods.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Snowbike Mike]

From Insider Gaming, CM Punk is reportedly headlining WWE 2K26's showcase mode.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Like that. Okay. Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, I'm not. I. I know very little. I haven't really been a WWE guy since the wwf.

[Snowbike Mike]

Now, the showcase modes are a great way to learn about those specific people. Right. It's the Jordan Moments of Wrestling.

[Gary Whitta]

Got it. Got it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Where you look back on all their.

[Gary Whitta]

Biggest moments and CM Punk is. Is he considered an S. Tier character that.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know what the people say he's S. Tier.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean in the game. I mean, like in the WWE pantheon.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, yeah, definitely. He's like Cena Rock. Stone cold level. Really? Because that's S Tier. You're saying he's on the same thing?

[Snowbike Mike]

I don't know if he's rocking Cena level, but he's up there. He's up there.

[Gary Whitta]

Who's the S Tier? Cena Rock Rock. Stone cold Hogan. Even though he's Undertaker, you know, Hogan has been erased from history. No longer.

[Snowbike Mike]

You're erasing him. Okay, Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, you might. You might as well put fucking Chris Benoit in there if you're gonna fucking go there.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, they just fucking Stalin him out of history, right? Rightly so. Jesus Christ.

[Snowbike Mike]

So, yeah, I guess. Are you putting CM Punk there?

[Gary Whitta]

I don't know. I'm asking you. I'm not a wrestling guy.

[Snowbike Mike]

Well, ask.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, don't we have a expert?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. Where is he? You know what I mean?

[Gary Whitta]

Usually, Usually he's. He, he, he, he.

[Snowbike Mike]

He smells the chat.

[Gary Whitta]

The chat.

[Snowbike Mike]

The chat says he's S Tier.

[Gary Whitta]

Cena. Okay. Punk is S Tier. Really?

[Snowbike Mike]

Here he comes.

[Gary Whitta]

You say that CM Punk is on the same level as. As the Rock and, And Cena?

[Snowbike Mike]

I guess so. We'll take it. We'll take it.

[Gary Whitta]

It doesn't. I mean, again, who I'm not.

[Snowbike Mike]

The comments will come.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Ace Combat 7 has sold 7 million copies in seven years.

[Gary Whitta]

That's huge. I like those Ace Combat games.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm gonna play for the first.

[Gary Whitta]

You see, they did a Top Gun Maverick add on for it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, that as well. Yeah, yeah. I got the flight stick set up. Gary. I got the green screen, full Top Gun outfit. I can't wait to play it. I'm going all in.

[Gary Whitta]

I told you Tim Gettys talked me into going to see Top gun Maverick in 4Dx. And you said, yeah, honestly, that is the movie that that format was invented for. What a. You know what? Let's just not. Let's not forget Top Gun Maverick. What a movie. What a banger. That every now and again when I'm sitting around and I've got nothing better to do myself, I'll go on YouTube and I'll dial up that sequence, you know what I'm talking about?

[Snowbike Mike]

When he's the fastest man on the planet.

[Gary Whitta]

Well, no, no. Where he does the canyon run and he shows the rookies that it can be done. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Snowbike Mike]

So I like the opening scene when he's going, Mach 11, man.

[Gary Whitta]

Crazy green Range is confirmed. I don't See an event scheduled for you, sir. Well, I'm going anyway. Hey. That's how you live your life.

[Snowbike Mike]

No Rest for the Wicked has sold 1 million copies. Shout out.

[Gary Whitta]

What did.

[Snowbike Mike]

No Rest for the Wicked.

[Gary Whitta]

I don't even. I don't even know what that is.

[Snowbike Mike]

That is the studio chat. Correct me if I'm wrong, that is the studio from Ori and the Blind Forest Moon Studios. They made a kind of. I don't know how to describe a top down hack and slash rogue. Like maybe.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Kind of brutal, kind of badass, kind of tough. Released in early access. Still building.

[Gary Whitta]

All right. And a million or already a million in the bank. Good for them. Oh, is this it here? This is what we're looking at.

[Snowbike Mike]

This is it. Right?

[Gary Whitta]

Scary art style is that thing.

[Snowbike Mike]

And so yeah, you could, you could.

[Gary Whitta]

Jump in on this cinematic. Where's the. Where's the gameplay?

[Snowbike Mike]

Kevin. Kevin will click anyway.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay. Oh, so like a Hades kind of thing maybe?

[Snowbike Mike]

Kind of, yeah. Top down action RPG is what the.

[Gary Whitta]

Chat graphics are good in game. Graphics look good.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, it was actually pretty fun to play. Kind of hard, but pretty fun.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay, I like it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Talk Tokyo has been delayed to May 21.

[Gary Whitta]

What has?

[Snowbike Mike]

Coffee Talk Tokyo.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, that's right, they're doing the Tokyo spin off. Yeah. And also Coffee Talks now coming to mobile. I'm ahead of you. I'm a. I'm ahead of you.

[Snowbike Mike]

Coffee Talk comes to Android and iOS on March 20th.

[Gary Whitta]

Those are fun games. You ever play coffee? I've never played like a visual novel.

[Snowbike Mike]

I would like it.

[Gary Whitta]

You run a coffee shop and basically it's just these characters coming. You just like follow the story. But also you have to learn how to make the coffee the way that they. They like. That's really the only game aspect is, is making the coffee.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know, I was a barista for quite. Oh yeah. Well, you'd probably, probably be good at it, whipping them up.

[Gary Whitta]

You would like Coffee Talk.

[Snowbike Mike]

I never had coffee. But before stepping foot inside of that store, left addicted to coffee.

[Gary Whitta]

Which reminds me, the old SNL Coffee talk.

[Snowbike Mike]

And then the biggest news in WE News. Roger put a footnote on my doc saying this is huge.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Subway Surfer city launches on February 26th on Android and iOS. Wait, what does Subway Surfers City.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay, so what is that, Kevin?

[Snowbike Mike]

Bring it up. I'll tell you what. Subway Surfers. Is it Subway Surf?

[Gary Whitta]

What is a Subway Surfer? What does that mean?

[Snowbike Mike]

You've never seen Subway Surfers?

[Gary Whitta]

No. What is that?

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, the kids love Subway Surfers. You ever seen Temple. Temple.

[Gary Whitta]

Run. Are you like. Are you, like, running on top of the subway train?

[Snowbike Mike]

Constant run?

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, there's three tracks. Okay. Oh, here it is. All right. Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, my God.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm not sure about the art style.

[Snowbike Mike]

It's for the youth.

[Gary Whitta]

It's for the young people. This might not be me. Okay. If it's a full, like, back to the future style hoverboards, if it's a.

[Snowbike Mike]

Four player subway surfer, you can mark us down for. Yeah, we're in.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay. Yeah, so it's an. It's an endless runner.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, yeah, Endless Runner is what it is.

[Gary Whitta]

Nothing wrong with that. If it's four player mode is. Is. Is interesting.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Again, show me the game, Kevin.

[Snowbike Mike]

Give us a little click around. Let's see what. See if we can find some.

[Gary Whitta]

You got any. Got any gameplay or is it all just cinematic?

[Snowbike Mike]

Another jabroni. Who knows so much and then just leaving us out to dry here, you know, Roger in the building and everything.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, I can. I can imagine what it looks like. I can kind of see it in my head right now, you know, just again, the top down and the four different lanes and stuff.

[Snowbike Mike]

We're gonna get Gary Whitten, the Subway Surfers. Jack, watch out. Yeah, Gary. Let's go to our final two sections of the day. Let's jump into some super chats and have some fun. Of course, Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

So I'm sorry, every now and again, Gary is such a boomer. Fuck you. I'm Generation X.

[Snowbike Mike]

Let him know.

[Gary Whitta]

The forgotten generation, the one that fucking built the Internet and the video game industry that you're all enjoying today. You're welcome.

[Snowbike Mike]

The forgotten generation.

[Gary Whitta]

So forgotten.

[Snowbike Mike]

Skyler writes in with a nice comment, says, Gary, I loved episode one of See youe in Hell. Nothing beats a winner. Wednesday on a Friday.

[Gary Whitta]

Tell your friends.

[Snowbike Mike]

We said yell, sing. Oh, here we go. Billy writes in and says, where's Book of Eli? To Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

Well, we tried to make the TV show. No one was fucking interested. And John Boyega signed up for three seasons. Nobody wanted to make it because the TV industry is. Which is why I wrote see you in Hell. And John's in that too.

[Snowbike Mike]

John's in it. Gambowski, our dude, writes in and says, that's a damn good hoodie, Mike. Looking great, Gary. What are you.

[Gary Whitta]

That is a good hoodie.

[Snowbike Mike]

On my old school. Diablo.

[Gary Whitta]

Is that. Is that like, from. Is that like, going back to, like, Diablo and Diablo 2 first came out, or is this the back? Oh, it's the expansion set. Lord of Destruction.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. Gary, I bought this on Culture Kings dot com. I talked about it for the big holiday. What to buy your family and friends. I like Culture Kings. Been doing a lot of video game collabs.

[Gary Whitta]

I think what is like the old. Okay, now I just remember what it is. The oldest piece of like video game merch that I own.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes.

[Gary Whitta]

EA Sports. Get this, you want to fucking lay it on me? EA Sports Triple Play Baseball 98. I still have the hoodie is a really good quality item. It's held up very well over the years. It's very cozy and comfortable and it reminds me of my, my happy days playing EA Sports triple play baseball back in the late 90s. That, get that, that franchise, that was a banger as well.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary, I want you to know that next week on the kind of funny X Cast reunion developer Underscore Direct gamescast.

[Gary Whitta]

Yes.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm gonna wear a sick European football piece of merch for you that you're gonna go, mike, that's sick. Oh yeah. I bought it from classic footballshirts.com.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

It will arrive today and I'm excited to show it to you. Sick. Colorways sick.

[Gary Whitta]

Now I kind of want to know what it is.

[Snowbike Mike]

You'll see, you'll see, you'll see.

[Gary Whitta]

All right, I'm interested.

[Snowbike Mike]

You'll like it. Let's keep it going right now. We saw the self res in super chats. Zero says Snowbike. Mike, when you see a Raider flare, what's your first reaction? Gary, when you see a raider flare, pop.

[Gary Whitta]

Raider flare means they've been knocked, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

They've been knocked.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay. You hear the.

[Snowbike Mike]

And then it flies up in the air. It looks like a whistling firecracker. What do you do? What's your first reaction?

[Gary Whitta]

I. I usually ignore it. Oh, I mean, I mean, so, I mean, what. Okay, there's three things you can do, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Ignore it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Ignore it.

[Gary Whitta]

Go there and loot the body.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

Or go there and, and help the guy if you've got a d. Fable. Ah, okay, but that, come on, no one's doing that.

[Snowbike Mike]

Tell me.

[Gary Whitta]

No, I mean, I mean, what do you. I mean again, that's the great thing about. Again, do whatever you want. But I imagine most people either ignore it because don't forget, if someone's just been knocked, that means that's a hot area.

[Snowbike Mike]

That means it's hot, right?

[Gary Whitta]

It could be, it could be PvP.

[Snowbike Mike]

There'S a fight going on.

[Gary Whitta]

Bots you don't know. But yeah, I imagine there's, you know, I'm not just you see all the time. Ever. And again, you'll see a Raider that's been. That surrendered or died and was. You know, usually if it's.

[Snowbike Mike]

If.

[Gary Whitta]

If it's killed by another raider, they're going to be picked over.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Right.

[Gary Whitta]

But if an ark kills you, you're gonna. I. I've just. Yesterday I played. Saw a dead Raider. I was like, he had a ton of on him.

[Snowbike Mike]

A ton of.

[Gary Whitta]

As I take all of this, I'm.

[Snowbike Mike]

Taking all of your goop.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, Yeah. I was playing with a. With a. With a rando. And we got not. And I got knocked, and I. And the guy said, oh, I'm sorry, do you have a d Fave? Because, no, sorry, I can't help you. I said, well, just take my. Whatever. I surrendered, and he got my. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna start bringing a defib. You should just. Because, like, you get into a situation, it helps you. Right. If you're. If you're playing with a rando.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

And you're in a firefight with some arc or whatever, and your buddy gets knocked, you want to be able to get him back in the fight.

[Snowbike Mike]

Pick him up.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. So I might start bringing a defib.

[Snowbike Mike]

I always run towards the Raider flare because I know that it's hot and it's going down over there, which means I'm gonna have some fun because I'm gonna get into it. Whether I shoot in third party, whether I steal all of your loot. I love that you're just like.

[Gary Whitta]

You just want to go where the action is 100%.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm so bored of just slowly walking around, picking up, you know who you remind me? Rubber ducks. Like, I'm not here for that.

[Gary Whitta]

You remind me of Tom Sizemore in Heat when you don't know if you've seen. Yeah, of course you haven't. So they're sort of like, they're going to do this big job, this big bank job, but it's very risky. And De Niro's like, you know, after. You guys have to tell me if you're in or you're out, you know, because this is a big risk. And Tom Sizemore's character is like, I don't know, what should I do? And De Niro's like, I don't know. You got a lot of money. You don't really need this. You know, like, I. I would. I would cut loose from this one. And he thinks, I guess, you know what? For me, the action is the juice. I want the action. He doesn't care about the money. He just wants to rob the bank. He just wants to feel that adrenaline. And that's you. The action is the Juice. I'm gonna start calling you the Juice.

[Snowbike Mike]

I love that, Gary. Because you know what, Gary? I watched one battle after another, a movie that I know you loved.

[Gary Whitta]

There he is a size more right there.

[Snowbike Mike]

He's definitely there for the.

[Gary Whitta]

He's. He's. He is one of the. He is one of the.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm gonna watch this movie. This.

[Gary Whitta]

He's no Waingro, who is by far the worst.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay?

[Gary Whitta]

In that movie you gotta see. Dude, I need to do a. You and Nick need to sit down and watch Heat for Content or something because that is a banger movie.

[Snowbike Mike]

I watched Casino recently.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Really like it? Really like Casino.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah. Goes out like a. In that movie.

[Snowbike Mike]

Bulldog. Yeah. Yeah, that's my guy. Gary, I'll watch the. I'll watch that for you. We have another fun one from Scoom dealer. Says Mike with a side of Gary. Now that's worth a super chat. Thank you, Scoom dealer. We have a birthday tax from big Ram. Ram says, paying my birthday tax. Hope you all have a great Friday. Happy Friday and Happy birthday to you, my friend.

[Gary Whitta]

Happy birthday, Punk.

[Snowbike Mike]

Defied writes in and says it's my time to pay my birthday tax. Much love to Mike and Gary and the entire kind of funny crew. We got two big birthdays. Two big birthdays on a Friday.

[Gary Whitta]

You want to sing Happy Happy Birthday?

[Snowbike Mike]

Ready? What's the regular happy birthday?

[Gary Whitta]

Well, you can't get in trouble for it anymore, right? Isn't it in the public domain now? Used to be Happy birthday.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, you would get in trouble for singing Happy Birthday.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

How about we give them two big booms?

[Gary Whitta]

What is that?

[Snowbike Mike]

Boom Boom. For their birthday. You know about the big boom?

[Gary Whitta]

No, I'm not familiar with the big.

[Snowbike Mike]

Boom about the Rizzler.

[Gary Whitta]

No. Nor do I want to be. I know enough about the Rizzler. I don't want to know any more about the Rizzler. Fuck the Rizzler.

[Snowbike Mike]

Fuck that little child. He's a child, man.

[Gary Whitta]

Children have no. No business being on the Internet.

[Snowbike Mike]

We got one final one coming from Malicious that says, excited to see Gary on the show. Listen to See youe in Hell. And it reminded me that I never read Gundog. Finished reading it last night and loved it.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, how nice.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, nice.

[Gary Whitta]

How nice. I enjoyed it. Shannon Woodward, of course, the. The key player in both, though. She plays. She narrates the book and she plays one of the two leads and See youe in Hell.

[Snowbike Mike]

Can we get gary on a KF Heat re watch review?

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, 100.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

Anytime you do movie based content, I would love to be a part of it.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

Because I'm. Let's be honest, I'm the only one around here that knows anything about movies. The rest of you. I watched some of you guys talking about movies. I'm like the. Are you talking about.

[Snowbike Mike]

Don't know if you know Gary. Well, Tim Getty's having a child.

[Gary Whitta]

I. I heard. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Nick Scarpino now running In Review, our weekly movie podcast which is now a Nick, Nick. Nick Scarpino in Review led show. Get this, we're watching movies that the whole crew have never.

[Gary Whitta]

I know. And I. And I saw. What was this? I know I saw because I watched your live stream.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

And what some of the movies he's never seen the Godfather, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

Never saw the Godfather.

[Gary Whitta]

What were the other.

[Snowbike Mike]

Some of the others they just did Die Hard.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Next week we're gonna do Pulp Fiction for me. Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm not. I'm not the kind of person. I'm not going to shame you because you haven't seen the movies that I've seen. I encourage us to watch Boorish. And I used. I used to be this guy and I won't be. I never will be again. In the Barbie movie. Nailed this. So. Well, like the kind of like bro boyfriend behavior. Yeah. Like sitting your girlfriend down or your wife or your child is saying, you've got. You must watch this. Like I see these. These. They anger me. I see these, like these. Well, not tweets anymore because that. But like you know, posts on social media where people are like, oh, my wife or my girlfriend just told me she's never seen the Godfather or Justice League. Well, I'm just fixing that right away. I've sat her down and I'm gonna make her watch it. I'm like, dude, you like what? What is this? Like you're some kind of. You think that's sitting there down and making a watch Godfather makes you some kind of film professor. Like maybe her tastes aren't your tastes. Don't try to impose your on other people. Like my kids never seen. Like my daughter's almost 14. She's never seen Star Wars. I don't give a. She's not interested. She's not gonna go. Well, you've got you that this must be part of your cultural legend off.

[Snowbike Mike]

You show interest, I'll show you it. Yeah. Okay. Maybe you join Us for one of these.

[Gary Whitta]

And I'll tell you as well like it from a child point of view, it can backfire as well. Oh, if you try to like impose your tastes on. On your kids.

[Snowbike Mike]

Don't do that.

[Gary Whitta]

They will.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

They'll rebel against.

[Snowbike Mike]

Do that. Yeah, that's Greg Miller knows he's got a line with Ghostbusters. He's gotta, he's gotta ride that happy line.

[Gary Whitta]

I know.

[Snowbike Mike]

Don't overdo.

[Gary Whitta]

I'm not, I'm not gonna impose my taste but like yeah, like you. I'll just say again, you guys don't know when it comes to movies you don't have. Anyone here knows what the they're talking about.

[Snowbike Mike]

Maybe you should join Pulp Fiction next week. Fiction. What'd you think about.

[Gary Whitta]

Been a minute since I've seen Pulp Fiction. But yeah, of course.

[Snowbike Mike]

What if you and I do a little rewatch? We'll get you an extra seat.

[Gary Whitta]

I don't want to do Pulp Fiction. I mean I would rather like. I'd rather do a movie. I mean I think Pulp Fiction is a terrible. Sorry, a terrific film. It's a brilliant movie. But if you like for something that I could. That's not necessarily the same as like where would I be. Where would I be? A useful contributor to a conversation about it. He. I think I would have much, much more to say.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm gonna tell Nick about the heat. I'm gonna tell Nick about my buddy.

[Gary Whitta]

Danny Trejo in there.

[Snowbike Mike]

You were close friends with him.

[Gary Whitta]

That was really very close friends, Danny. Yeah, I saw him just recently.

[Snowbike Mike]

Our final one, JJ writes in, says Gary, do you read any fantasy? And if so, do you have any reos?

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah, the Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. Incredible book. One of the best books I've ever read.

[Snowbike Mike]

And to round out the show, of course we ask you to keep us honest here on kind of funny Games Daily. If we screw it up, you can go right into your wrong and help us keep it right. We have one from today coming in from I Don't Beat Games says today is the one year anniversary of Nintendo officially revealing that switch.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay. That's where I got it from. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Snowbike Mike]

There you go, big dog. And so that is our show. A fun one with Gary. Gary, one more for you that I could ask for. You go on next week. Yeah, of course. Every Friday we've brought back Party Mode where we, the whole gang joins us at the table. Plays fun party games. Next week I'm playing a Gary Whitta joint a Gary Whitta killer recommendation that I fell in love with that I'm gonna make them play.

[Gary Whitta]

Go on.

[Snowbike Mike]

They need to stay on track because they're playing unreal, unrailed.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, my God, Gary. With those games.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary Winner joint.

[Gary Whitta]

And let me tell you, that whole genre overcooked. You ever play Moving out, love Moving Out. I can't. Those games drive me fucking crazy. It really comes down to the people that you're playing with.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Gary Whitta]

And with my family, it's always a shit show. You know what? You know, I've really been enjoying. We've been back into Mario Party since it got the switch to update. But you know what else is really good? That means Mario Party. Like, and it's a. I don't know how they get away with it. So I've been playing Sonic Racing crossworlds, okay. Which is really good. But it's incredible to me that the granularity to which it is just a fucking absolute clone of Mario Kart, right?

[Snowbike Mike]

You see Minecraft, if Mario.

[Gary Whitta]

If Mario Kart has it, Sonic Racing has its version of it. Like, I was teaching my. My daughter to play. She's like, what's that? I said, well, you know, like Mario Kart, you have the boxing. Like the boxing club. What's it's that? It's the green shell or it's that. That's their version of the red shell. They have everything and Lego parties the exact fucking same. It is the Mario party formula 100. There's literally no deviation. Make your move, land on a special square. Oh, let's play a minigame. Oh, this one's a four player minigame. This one's one versus three. Nintendo is very litigious. But I guess maybe this is something they can't sue them for, because I'm sure they would. They would have a case. It is astonishing how much these formulas get ripped off by other game makers. It's fine because Lego parties a lot of fun, but, like, as someone who likes Mario Party, I can't not sit there and go, this is fucking Mario Party. They just completely ripped it off.

[Snowbike Mike]

And they did a great job with it because it's a ton of fun. Have you seen Minecraft 2?

[Gary Whitta]

No.

[Snowbike Mike]

Kevin, can you type in hightail? H Y T A L E. I heard.

[Gary Whitta]

I have heard one for you.

[Snowbike Mike]

Just hit the scene last week in early access here, Gary. It's Minecraft. I don't know how we get away with this. I don't know what the rules are on this, but it's just quite literally Minecraft, Gary. I played it for an hour and a half last night. It is Minecraft.

[Gary Whitta]

Well, let's see it.

[Snowbike Mike]

There's blocks everywhere.

[Gary Whitta]

Okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, that's something else.

[Gary Whitta]

Is he doing?

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay, thank you. Right there, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin. Hit.

[Gary Whitta]

That's literally what I clicked.

[Snowbike Mike]

Look. Oh, really?

[Gary Whitta]

I clicked it and it takes you to a gorilla. Oh, that time it took me to the right place.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, there we go.

[Gary Whitta]

Almost like you fucked up.

[Snowbike Mike]

You wanted to jam out with some dope music. That's probably all.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, shit.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Gary.

[Snowbike Mike]

Gary, look at this video game.

[Gary Whitta]

Are you serious?

[Snowbike Mike]

For those watching, this is Minecraft. But Minecraft.

[Gary Whitta]

Are you having a laugh?

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm telling you, Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

Oh, come on. That is just taking the piss, isn't it?

[Snowbike Mike]

What are the rules on this? When do you and I, who own Minecraft, let's say, have a phone call?

[Gary Whitta]

I think, I think this will be hold up Mojang and Microsoft right now, or have been for a while, probably.

[Snowbike Mike]

Talking about what the Fuck's going on PlayStation with Horizon. And they said, nah, we don't want you to make Horizon 2 over there. Like what? And they shut that team down right away.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, Palworld is still going right after that world.

[Snowbike Mike]

Look at this, Gary.

[Gary Whitta]

Shocking.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm playing this right now though.

[Gary Whitta]

I mean, I get, I get that the visual style is the same, but is it also a builder? Like, is it a builder?

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh yeah, okay. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And it's all just blocks, Gary. It's all just blocks. Great time.

[Gary Whitta]

Shocking.

[Snowbike Mike]

Of course. This has been kind of funny. Games Daily. If you love what we do, consider supporting us with the kind of funny membership available on Patreon or YouTube to get all of our shows ad free and get a daily exclusive show. Greg Way enjoy the games cast after this and then the party mode stream after that. But until next time, it's been our pleasure to serve you.