Nintendo Raises Switch 2 Price - Kinda Funny Games Daily 05.08.26

Summary

Kinda Funny Games Daily — Nintendo Raises Switch 2 Price (05.08.26)

Hosts: Blessing Adeoye Jr., Greg Miller, Tim Gettys
Published: May 8, 2026

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Brief Overview

In this episode, the Kinda Funny crew breaks down a week packed with major industry news, led by Nintendo’s surprise Switch 2 price hike and followed by a deep dive into Sony's ambiguous PlayStation 6 timeline and the fallout from the Bungie/Marathon situation. Other topics include the current state of next-gen console launches, the role of AI in game development, industry burnout, and the retirement of legendary Nintendo developer Takashi Tezuka. Along the way, the trio delivers colorful banter, candid industry analysis, and fan interaction.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Nintendo Switch 2 Price Increase

• Source: Wesley Yin-Poole at IGN

• Details:

  • Nintendo will raise the Switch 2 price globally by $50 in the US (from $449.99 to $499.99), with equivalent hikes in Canada (+$50) and Europe (€470 to €500).
  • Price increase effective Sep 1, 2026.
  • Nintendo issued a rare public apology:

    “We sincerely apologize for the impact these price revisions may have on our customers and other stakeholders and we deeply appreciate your understanding.” (03:22)

  • Reason: Ongoing global market conditions, tariffs, and supply chain stressors.
  • Sales numbers: 19.86 million units sold since June 2025; expecting sales to decline by ~17% in FY27 (forecast: 16.5 million units).

• Analysis:

  • The hosts predicted this outcome due to mounting shareholder pressure (05:17–06:07).

  • Matt Piscatella’s industry insight:

    “It is very unusual to see sales fall in year two of a new console’s life. I hope these assumptions prove too conservative. I fear they won’t be…” (Discussed at 06:31)

  • Greg and Blessing advise: If you want one, buy a Switch 2 before September (07:40–08:04).

  • Blessing highlights psychological impact of hitting the $500 mark:

    "That does mean something as far as people's willingness to go, 'Oh man, do I want to spend $500 versus... $400?'"

  • Discussion of Nintendo’s strong launch-year software driving hardware – Ocarina of Time Remake and Pokemon Wind & Waves likely key for FY27, but release timing may influence adoption (09:01–10:09).

2. Sony and the Uncertain PlayStation 6

• Source: Chris Gilelian at VGC

• Details:

  • Sony’s management admits there’s no fixed timeline or price for PS6 yet.
  • Cites uncertainty over future manufacturing costs (mainly due to projected memory shortages).

  • “We have not yet decided on at what timing we will launch the new console or at what prices.” — Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki, via company translator (14:00)

  • Sony expects PS5 and next-gen platform investments to keep year-on-year income flat in 2026.

• Analysis & Reactions:

  • Six years into the PS5, typically only a year out from new hardware, but the pandemic era has stretched that cycle (15:30–15:52).
  • Blessing and Greg voice modern industry exhaustion and skepticism around next-gen launches, referencing rampant "AI gold rush" and growing shareholder influence (16:53–18:51).
  • Key Quote — Blessing:

    “It is hard for me to even, like, play games nowadays... I have cared less now than I think I ever have.”

  • Sony’s lack of clarity on the PS6 underscores broader industry turbulence.

3. Sony Records $560M Loss on Bungie/Marathon

• Source: Ethan Gach at Kotaku

• Details:

  • Sony has taken a $560 million write-down this quarter due to underperformance of Bungie's Marathon and declining Destiny 2 metrics.
  • Total annual loss on the Bungie acquisition nears $765 million.
  • Marathon reportedly failed to crack the top 10 most-played games post-launch and has weak concurrent player numbers (~10–15K on Steam).

• Analysis:

  • Greg posits that Bungie/PlayStation are left with two choices: fully commit to Destiny 3, or wind down efforts (34:42–36:45).

  • Blessing cynically predicts a cycle of “announce Destiny 3 to hype, then cancel years later.”

  • Candid discussion of the near-impossible odds for a live service multiplayer game to break out in today’s market (41:11–42:11).

  • Themes of shareholder impatience and unrealistic expectations for “the next Fortnite”.

  • Memorable quote — Greg:

    “I don’t think Bungie’s future is bright at PlayStation. The present isn’t bright and it hasn't been bright since they've been bought.” (36:45)

4. AI in Game Development: Hype, Tools, & Fears

• Source: The Verge & Sony investor presentation

• Details:

  • PlayStation claims it’s integrating AI tools (Automating QA, 3D modeling, animation — notably via "Mockingbird" facial animation tech), but “AI is meant to augment, not replace, creative talent.”
  • Partnerships with Bandai Namco for AI-powered video production.

• Analysis:

  • Sincere debate about the line between useful automation and soulless, exploitative labor cuts.

    Blessing: “For me, it's all a tool to go, 'Hey, we're increasing optimization.' And also we're going to lay... a bunch of people off. But don't worry about that. We're increasing optimization.” (56:07)

  • Greg’s counterpoint: what if the “grunt work” being automated is genuinely undesirable, and tech really is a net positive for creativity?
  • Andy Cortez (in Twitch chat) provides industry perspective: AI tools could speed up the boring bits, freeing up artists.
  • Apathy and skepticism:

    Blessing: “This won’t be used for good… this is going to be a step to go, ‘Now we can employ less people.’” (64:35)

  • The hosts agree: Generative AI creations are fundamentally unwanted by players, but specific tools could be positive if used ethically.

5. Industry Burnout, Nostalgia, and Indie Preference

• Contemporary burnout:
  • The hosts express a shared sense of exhaustion with “big tech,” live services, and endless platform churn — mirroring wider community sentiment.
  • Praise for creativity found in the indie scene over AAA sameness.

    Blessing: "I find AAA games so boring nowadays... I get way more excited about indie games." (65:31)

  • Call for optimism: indies and new voices still offer hope for the future, even as the corporate landscape feels bleak.

6. Takashi Tezuka Retires: End of a Nintendo Era

• Source: VGC, Andy Robinson

• Details:

  • Legendary director Takashi Tezuka officially retires June 26, 2026, at age 65. Key credits: Super Mario Bros, Zelda: Link to the Past, Yoshi’s Island, Super Mario Wonder, and more.
  • Tezuka designed Yoshi and Boo — Tim shares the beloved origin story of Boo:

    “He kept working incredibly long hours and went home to his wife, and she would turn and yell at him and he would freeze, and he's like, ‘I need to turn this into a gameplay [element].’” (69:55)

  • Tim Gettys:

    “We are really at the end of an era. The beginning of a new one when it comes to video games.” (68:31)

• Takeaway:

  • Sad but celebratory tone as Nintendo gracefully sees its first legendary gen retire; confidence in Nintendo’s ability to pass the torch to new creative leaders.

7. Quickfire News and Wii News Channel Mini-Stories

• Resident Evil Requiem DLC adds “Leon Must Die Forever” mode.
• PS5 shipments surpass 93.7 million units.
• Paranormal Activity Threshold canceled.
• Star Fox game soundtrack released on Nintendo Music.
• Netflix’s Devil May Cry renewed for Season 3.
• Blindfire updated and now free-to-play, with servers staying up “indefinitely.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Greg, on industry woes:

  “Nobody cares about the product they're making. They care about the end result of the graph... This is the new gold rush.” (17:40)

• Blessing, on the AAA churn:

  “I think there's just way more creativity happening on the indie side.” (66:18)

• Highlight — Sally Field Loves Zelda?

  • Fun segment where Greg reveals that Sally Field (yes, Mrs. Doubtfire’s mom/Aunt May) is a Zelda fan and plots to invite her onto the show for an all-Zelda episode. (10:19, 44:16 onwards)
  • Features a surprise call-in from Jack Quaid (and “Vegeta”):
    • Jack Quaid:

      “I would love to meet Sally Field… a Kinda Funny live stream.” (48:08)

• Listener comment — Saul Herrera:

  “Genuinely everything is so exhausting. Love you guys for being a medium to watch and somewhat get away from play. P.S. Greg sucks and Bless you’re great.” (27:51)

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Important Timestamps

• [03:00–12:50] — Nintendo Switch 2 price increase breakdown, sales fallout, and upcoming games.
• [13:03–21:53] — PlayStation 6 uncertainty, industry malaise, and broader next-gen issues.
• [26:25–43:51] — Bungie/Marathon deep dive, PlayStation’s live service pain, sustainability, and impossible expectations.
• [50:48–62:34] — AI in game development: analysis, ethics, potential, and fears.
• [68:23–72:28] — Takashi Tezuka retirement, legacy discussion, Nintendo’s era of creative handoff.
• [72:41–74:33] — Wii News summaries (RE: Requiem DLC, PS5 milestone, Star Fox music, etc.)
• [44:16–48:18] — “Sally Field loves Zelda” running gag / Jack Quaid & Vegeta cameo.

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Tone and Style

• The conversation is informal, energetic, and rooted in passionate gamer perspective.
• The hosts oscillate between biting critique (of corporate culture, AI, and live services) and heartfelt celebration of industry icons and indie resilience.
• Interactivity is high: multiple listener Super Chats, real-time digressions, and recurring in-jokes.

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Summary for Newcomers

This episode captures the turbulence, anxiety, and occasional optimism of gaming in 2026: hardware is more expensive, next-gen is uncertain, and creative labor is being squeezed by technology and shareholders. Yet the joy of old Nintendo legends, indie innovation, and beloved personalities on the mic keep hope (and humor) alive. If you want wit, candor, and a pulse-check on what matters most to everyday fans, this episode delivers top to bottom.

Transcript

[Tim Gettys]

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[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Are we live again? Today's stories include Nintendo's raising the price of the Switch 2. Sony's undecided about what to do with the PlayStation 6, and Sony has lost 500 in the $60 million on the Bungie acquisition of all this and more because this is Kind of Funny Games Daily. Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Games daily for Friday, May 8, 2026. I'm one of your host, Blessing Addie OA Jr. Joining me is the legend, Greg Miller.

[Greg Miller]

Hello, Blessing, how are you?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm doing well, Greg. How you doing?

[Greg Miller]

I'm good. I'm sorry I'm late. I saw a lot of people in the chat saying, why are we so late? Why are we late? Why are we late? It's my fault. Well, we got lost in Exit 8, of course. Yeah. Our sponsor, if you're an audio listener, something cool is happening here. Of course, as you just heard in the pre roll, unless of course, you're a member, we're sponsored by Exit 8 coming out for digital release right now. But more importantly, they did a whole set takeover. So we're on. Our set is exit 8.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're in the loop right now. I don't know anything about Exit 8.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, really?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I've heard. I mean, I've heard good things. I want to watch the movie. It seems really exciting. I saw the trailer.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I didn't want to watch the movie till I played the game. Okay. Played the game yesterday so I can talk about it on today's games cast.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

So there's a lot going on here,

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

but yeah, same stuff. How are you doing?

[Tim Gettys]

I'm good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Nice.

[Greg Miller]

I'm frazzled. You're not frazzled. Annoyed. Because the problem with the being late, we knew that 19th here in the city is all torn up. It's huge news because it's one of the main arteries of the city. And so I had put it into Google on the old Google Maps, right? And I'm like, I'm gonna be here four minutes before we go live, three minutes before we go. Great. And then it was that thing where I was getting into Greg way mode. I'm getting ready for that. Blah, blah. And as I went past that last turn, Fulton, before you enter the park, I saw the little detour sign. I went, oh, fucking. I looked at the Google map the Google maps. Like turn you idiot. I got stuck in there for a second, so.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I hate that.

[Greg Miller]

I did my best getting there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Well, you made it.

[Greg Miller]

I made it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Thank God you're here.

[Greg Miller]

Thank God I'm here.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Thank God because we have a lot of video game news stuff.

[Greg Miller]

I know, right?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Remember, if you're watching live, you can be a part of the show by super chatting in over on YouTube.com kindafunnygames remember, you couldn't do this without our producers over on patreon.com kindafunny so thank you to Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining for now, let's begin with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. It's time for some news. We have six stories today, Baker's dozen.

[Greg Miller]

There it is

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

in what I've constructed as a Nintendo PlayStation sandwich. Oh, we got the Nintendo is the bread.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The first and last story and then three PlayStation stories in between.

[Greg Miller]

So then it's really just a PlayStation sandwich.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

PlayStation sandwich with like, I guess a little Nintendo brioche.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, okay, okay. I like that. I like that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Story number one Nintendo Announces Switch to price Rise in light of changes in market conditions and issues an apology this is from Wesley Yenpool at IGN. Nintendo has announced price rises for Switch 2 consoles across the globe blaming changes in market conditions quote Given that the impact of various changes in market market conditions is expected to extend over the medium to long term, price revisions are also planned. Outside Japan, Nintendo said in the U.S. switch 2 is going up by $50, that is from $449.99 to $499.99. In Canada, Switch 2 rises from $630 to $680. In Europe, Switch 2 goes up from €470 to €500. The price rises kick in on September 1, 2026, Nintendo warned price rises for Switch 2 and the original Switch are coming in other regions. Quote we sincerely apologize for the impact these price revisions may have on our customers and other stakeholders and we deeply appreciate your understanding, Nintendo said. In its outlook for the current financial year ending March 31, 2027, Nintendo said Switch 2 got off to a good start following its June 2025 launch and it's now sold 19.86 million units. However, it admitted Switch 2 sales quote were more concentrated in the launch year in comparison to previous hardware systems, end quote. Nintendo expects to sell fewer Switch 2 units in the current financial year, predicting 16.5 million or a 16.9 year on year decline. It said this decline Reflects strong launch year sales and price revisions acknowledging the impact of the Switch 2 price rise quote Even so, we believe this represents a solid level of adoption for Switch 2 in its second year after launch. Nintendo insisted it also expects software sales will rise from 48.71 million units to 60 million units. As it stands, Nintendo Switch to hardware sell through was higher than posted by Nintendo switch in its first full fiscal year and annual playing users exceeded 100 million. Continuing the trend from last fiscal year year. We got two stories in one here with the lead being Nintendo Switch 2 prices going up. Greg, who could have predicted it?

[Greg Miller]

I mean, we did, everybody. I mean, I mean the news earlier this week on Games Daily with you and me, right, was of course that Nintendo shareholders putting pressure on Nintendo to raise the price. And we did our best to be like, maybe they won't, maybe Nintendo bucks the trend, you know, doubles down, eats the loss. Yep, here we are. Yeah, yeah. It's more what these ramifications will be to this price increase. I saw both the Don Imran Khan, of course today on bs that's Blue Sky Tim saying of course, like I wonder if this is going to spike Switch to sales before September, right, when this increase goes in. And then of course, of course, Matt Piscatella, Circana Zone, of course tracking all the industry numbers, put up the news that we just did. Right. And then I liked this little breakdown he put. So that reads to me as if the expectation is that there will be significant consumer price sensitivity to the increase. Of course he's piggybacking off of the fact that they're predicting a decline of 16.9%. Right. So that reads to me as if expectation is there will be a significant consumer price sensitivity to this increase. It is very unusual to see sales fall in year two of a new console's life. I hope these assumptions prove too conservative. I fear they won't be as we wrestle with current market conditions and where we're going and what all this will mean and stuff. But it is that interesting thing that, you know, since really they were like, here's when preorders go live, we're going to delay pre orders tariffs and everything else going on. And then not only tariffs, not only the blowback to tariffs, then of course the chips and technology and silicon and all this different stuff like we have been saying. And we being hardcore gamers, right. Buy a Switch now if you can, if you, if you have the money and you think you're one day going to buy it, buy it now. You know, friend of the show Ali Hook, of course, a TikTok famous chef doing all sorts of crazy stuff out there. She had hit me up and she posted about this when it was all said and done, but she hit me up about them. They just moved back to la. We were conversing. I forget what things she asked me about in video games or how to do something in a video game they already had. And then you follow the diagram out of it was her store buying switch 2 where I was like, listen, I'm not trying. I was like, if he likes that game, he was Astrobot. If he likes Astrobot, he'd love Mario Wonder. Her four year old, four and a half year old. And I was like, if you're going to get Mario Wonder, you might as well get a switch too. And like the price increase is only going to go up eventually, yada yada. And she went and did that. I think that's been the messaging in general, right. Of like, yeah, there is always the chance of here's the OLED switch, here's the switch with the better battery. Here's whatever where we are right now with technology and how much everything costs and how hard it is to get the components and yeah, like if you want a switch, this is your chance to go buy it right now.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Get one.

[Greg Miller]

Right? Yeah. Lock it in while you can.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I that's been the question I've gotten from friends since the Switch 2 launched last year of oh, should I get it now or should I wait? And I'm always like, just get it now. Because the price is going to go up if you wait. Because that's what we're seeing across the board because of tariffs and all this stuff. Right. I got so many questions when it comes to what you brought up at first, right? Being that decline going into fiscal year two because I think they even reference here the idea of it reflecting the strong launch year sales and then price revisions so they know that it is all right, we're this thing is going up by 50 bucks. That is significant enough for us to go, okay, this is going to decline in year two, which is wild. But also I think that speaks to the power of that 400 number versus the 500 number. Even though we're talking about a $50 difference, which might not seem that much when you have a 4 at the beginning versus a 5 at the beginning or I guess 499 technically, like that does mean something as far as people's willingness to go, oh man, well I do. I want to spend $500 versus what, like, spiritually might feel like $400. You know, like, that is.

[Greg Miller]

That is a different 49. You're like, it's just $49 more than 400.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know, that's $300. But I think even the bigger thing for me is software because we're talking about strong year one, of course, that comes with Mario Kart World. That comes with Pokemon legends. Za, Donkey Kong Banana, Donkey Kong. Pokemon being the bigger one. Right. Like, I think between Mario Kart and Pecopia, you have these big games that are sellers for the hardware. I wonder where their heads are at going into. Now that we're in technically fiscal year two, do you have the stuff to drive hardware sales like that? Because the games that would come to. You think so.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, don't you? Ocarina of Time remake. Yeah, that. The. That Mario in 2027, maybe that's out into fiscal year three technically. But I would still be like, I think that's year two in my mind at least, if we're talking.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

My thing is, if you're able to hit Ocarina and able to hit Pokemon Wind and Waves, then we're cooking. But them forecasting it this way makes me think Wind and Waves is going to be somewhere later.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, interesting. Next year. Well, yeah, you're calling out fiscal years, which is interesting. Right. I do imagine Pokemon Wind and Waves. That is usually a fall title when we're getting a Pokemon. Right. I'm not speaking on a.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No, you're right.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, a traditional gen Pokemon.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. But even this is like, I think Ocarina is an interesting one because I do think Ocarina is a seller, but I don't view it as the Pacopia Mario Kart World.

[Greg Miller]

That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. If it was a new Zelda. Right. Then. Yeah. We'd be in a different conversation. Yeah, Full stop, too. Just for a second. We're pulling over on the. Do you know who? I found out. I act like I had a conversation with her. I did not. I was watching, you know, fucking TikTok reels or no Instagram reels. Do you know who loves Zelda? And we have to get on this fucking show.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Who's that?

[Greg Miller]

Sally Field.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Who's Holly Field?

[Greg Miller]

The. The mom from Mrs. Doubtfire. The flying Nun. Gidget the Flying Nun, which is like a black and white show. There's Kevin dying in there. But I mean, like, yeah, Sally Peter Parker's. She's Aunt May. Oh, Amazing Spider Man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, I'm sorry. Give me A second. There you go. Yeah, give me a second with Aunt

[Greg Miller]

May from Amazing Spider. Sorry, I thought maybe you knew Gidget the flying nun. Are they the same? They might actually. It might be Gidget and they might be the flying nun.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm not 100 sure.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, forced up mom.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Forrest Gump mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, turns out she loves Zelda. Has a switch too. She's been playing. She's like. The conversation came up of her playing Zelda with Robin Williams during Mrs. Doubtfire.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh.

[Greg Miller]

So it's like she's been around a while. So we gotta get her on this show.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

How do we get her? And we get Zelda Williams on the show.

[Greg Miller]

Zelda Williams. I feel like, what does she do? And I don't mean that as like she doesn't do anything. I mean, she's not like an actor. She's not promoting something. Is promoting a movie. Right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I feel like Zelda Williams is like, on social media.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, she is. But I mean, also, what it would.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, mean, she has an IMDb.

[Greg Miller]

Hold on. What do we want to talk to her about?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Zelda, I guess. I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

I guess you're named after Zelda. Sure. M. Awesome.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. But I remember they did that commercial. You don't think she likes Zelda? I remember. I do remember that commercial.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know if she likes Zelda. I mean, we can try.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We can do this choosing.

[Greg Miller]

We can. We can launch a new show, do you like Zelda? Where we just bring people in.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Who's in Legend of.

[Greg Miller]

Welcome, everybody. Another episode of do you like Zelda? Today we got Zelda Williams Thermometer.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

She's on Transformers, Earth, Spark.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So is she an actress? That's your job.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It looks like she does a lot of voice.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, she's in Jane the Virgin for one episode.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. In 2019, I'm going to start with Sally Field. And then Sally Field would probably know Zelda Williams in some regards back. Oh, yeah, we can then do it. You know what I mean? She's represented by United Talent Agency. All right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But yeah, I love that we jumped right to the. The decline because I think that's more the. Where the more interesting conversation happens as far as. All right, what's going on this next year of Switch? Because when we're talking about the price raise. That sucks. Like, it all sucks. You know, we're going to talk more about even the PlayStation numbers and PlayStation 6 and stuff as we move on with the show. But, like, this was something that I think we all just kind of expected, been waiting for and been waiting for Nintendo to actually say that it's happening.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think, you know, everybody's doing it. You knew Nintendo probably would have to eventually do it as well, right? Or at least feel like they could do it if they wanted to. But here we are.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Are we not getting the oled, do you think?

[Greg Miller]

Not anytime soon, I think. I mean, you're gonna get the OLED for sure. You know what? No, actually, no. Remind me later. Remind me when we're not talking into a microphone.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Let's move on to story number two. PS5 sales drift behind PS4 with Sony saying it's undecided on PlayStation 6 release date and price this is Chris Golian at Video Games Chronicle. Sony President and CEO Hiroki Totoki says the company hasn't yet decided when it's going to release the PlayStation 6 and what its price will be. However, in its latest financial results published on Friday, the company said it expects income to be a flat year on year to be flat year on year because, quote, of an increase in investments for the next generation platform, end quote. Sony President and CEO Hiroki Totoki says the company hasn't yet decided when it's going to release the PlayStation 6 and what its price will be. However, in its in its latest financial result. Hold on, am I rereading this thing? I'm rereading this thing. I copied and pasted twice.

[Greg Miller]

I hate when that happens to me.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Tadoki replied by explaining that as the price of memory increases, the cost of B O M AKA the bill of materials and the cost of manufacturing would increase as a result, which could potentially have a big impact on consoles. He also stated, however, that for the rest of the calendar year 2026, Sony has acquired the necessary volume of materials it needs and has, quote, to a certain extent agreed on the price itself, end quote. Suzuki then moved on to the PlayStation 6, saying there had not yet been an official decision on when to release the console and how much to sell it for because the upcoming component situation isn't yet clear, quote we have not yet decided on at what timing we will launch the new console or at what prices. Satoki said via Sony's translator. Well, so we would like to really observe the following. Observe and follow the situation. Looking at the current circumstances, the memory price is also expected to be very high fiscal year 2027 because there will still be a shortage of supply. So under that assumption, we must think carefully about what we will do. We would like to think about various simulations, including changing business models to come up with the best solution and strategy, he said. He also noted that the number of active users on PlayStation's platform continues to grow. So it's not that demand has gone down, meaning Sony has the time to think about its strategy for the next generation. Greg? Yes. Six.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

They don't know.

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Ain't that crazy?

[Greg Miller]

Very.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're how many years into the PlayStation 5? We're six years in the PlayStation 6 or PlayStation 5. Usually by this point, we're talking about being maybe a year out. Usually it's usually seven years.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, yeah, you're right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But, like, it's not. I mean, this generation just feels entirely different.

[Greg Miller]

100% launched during a pandemic.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Fucking. The world's falling apart over six years.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Every other day, everybody's going into AI. There's no more components.

[Greg Miller]

Everybody's going to AI. No components left. Yeah. Like, it's a fucking. It's one of those. I remember during COVID and this is taking a step back from video games during COVID when you'd be like, I mean, this is just. I feel overwhelmed, or I feel. I. You know, I just feel. And Jen would always say to me, like, remember, we're living through a horrible historic event. Like, you know what I mean? Like, humans are so quick to rationalize and be like, okay, cool, this is what the new thing is. And it's fine. This is normal now. And so you go that way. We don't step back and stop enough and talk about how fucking crazy it is right now for technology. You know what I mean? Where it's like, yeah, yeah. All the rams being eaten up and fucking. Mr. Wonderful wants to build a 40,000. He wants to consume more fucking power than the entire state of Utah in the state of Utah to make a goddamn AI. It's like, what the fuck is happening? Like, it's just crazy that this is where we're at. And then there's all these little ripples that go to places like, I don't know. I don't know when you're going to PlayStation 6.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. If I'm being. If I'm being very frank, I'm so over all of it.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm so.

[Greg Miller]

It sucks.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's hard for me to even, like, play games nowadays. It's hard for me to even, like, want to pay attention to video game news, which is tough to say because I talk about video game news every single day for my job.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But when I see it all before me when I'm scrolling through my algorithms, even when I'm watching my shows or doing whatever. I just want to go on an island.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Throw my technology into the water and be like, let me just sit out in the sun and be around people and play a board game or some.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like it all is like. If I'm being frank about. Yeah. Like, just where we're at in the technology world. I have cared less now than I think I've ever have before in my life. Which sucks to say, because I love this shit, but also, fuck this shit.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Well, it's the usual thing of.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Out.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I shouldn't say the usual thing where I would sum up why we're in the predicaments we're in. Right. It's so many outside influences coming in and mucking around. You know what I mean? Where it's like to dial the clock back to the launch of Xbox, the launch of PlayStation, what Nintendo. Like, you're making these devices and not even a launch of you could go deeper than, like, you know, Gen 1, whatever. But you're doing these devices and you're dealing with companies that don't have these aggressive shareholders who are trying to squeeze every dollar out of it and not care. Nobody cares about the product they're making. They care about the end result of the graph. And so that's the idea, right, where it's like we talk on the show all the time about this race to AI and this being the new gold rush, and they're just doing this to satisfy stockholders. Right. Well, who is it this week we were talking about where. I didn't expect AI to come up, but it did. That's why they're in the predicament. This is a bad story, but if you've been listening to games daily this week, you know what I'm citing where I was like, oh, that's what was happening here. Like, again, you just have people who aren't. They aren't in this for the right reasons. They aren't in this to make the best video game platform and make the best art and do these things. Like that is gone. Those people have left and now it has become this. We just want to make as much money as possible.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Which is why you have great stuff coming from indies and, you know, doing all these different things. I don't have to worry about keeping a platform afloat. That's the other thing, really, when you talk about PlayStation, you talk about Nintendo. Right. Like, the people who are Just making a game on Steam can just make a game on Steam. And then we get to what Steam is and Valve is and whole different conversation.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But 100. Yeah, I know there's a chat that went through. I've already lost it. But it was something along the lines of like, you know, apathy is how we get here. Or like, apathy's not good. Right. And for me it's not. Apathy is more so just disillusionment of just being tired of it all. Like, I care about it, I want it to be better. Right. But it's tough for me to look at the amount of AI shit going on. And you're talking about the shareholders and like the people that are funneling money into the business and out of the business right now. They kind of have a control. Control over everything. And everything is about how do we keep a business afloat, slash make money. My profits maximize profits. Right. And right now that is all that coming down on AI. Right. AI is the solution to. To everything. AI is also just a. It's breaking everything in a way where I'm like, I don't. I. I don't want to interface with this anymore. You know? Like, I like, I hate seeing. We're going to talk about Gen AI in a second. Right. But I hate seeing like the. The Gen AI shit. And I feel like the more I log on, the more I'm forced to see it or the more I'm like faced with even the stories of developers, we love that use it or whatever. Right. And like, I'm not trying to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I'm sure there are great ways to use AI shit, but I'm just tired of it all. You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Every so often we get these little stories where it's like, oh cool. People are starting to run away from it. Oh cool. That's not doing well. Okay. That company's failing because of it. You know what I mean? Like, we still hope that it'll just explode one day, collapse upon itself in the same way NFTs did.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. And there's still amazing games coming out. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

That's the thing about it. Yeah. Where it's easy to get hung up on this and doom and gloom. That. But I think as I talked about yesterday in the review, to go from this to turn to mixtape. Right. Even if it doesn't connect as hard with you as it did with me. Right. A ten versus a poultry. Nine.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I know.

[Greg Miller]

I hate a. Disgusting. Oh my God. Fucking. I'm making Ben breakfast today. Gen 2 when I'm making breakfast there, I look at my phone, I see white venba. You fucking crack me up with that BS today. Listen, but like that's the thing where you're seeing there is so much creativity, so much artistry and so many cool things happening here. It's just that we can't necessarily look to and and I'm not even trying to swing on the three major consoles, you know what I mean? Like on what's going on. Like they're still doing amazing things as well. It's just, it's the free fall and like these, these conversations are all coming out of them having to go answer to their board. Right? Yeah. And also to some point again, silver lining for what I've always been saying of it's going to get a lot worse and then there's going to be a lot more bad stuff and collapses and closures. Like they're doing the right thing of like yo, hey everybody, it's going to suck next year we're going to lose. We are going. It's going to year on year decline. You have to get on the same page about that and if not sell your your shares and get the fuck out of it now. And that like we have to contract this incredibly bloated market that I think is filled with sharks of people who just came in again. Gold rush. There's money in those hills.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And now they're learning the hard way of like oh fuck, they're not the way I thought there was. I thought you were going to make Fortnite. Jim Ryan said you were going to make 12 fortnites. What the fuck?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean speaking of that story number three has to do all about PlayStation in Bungie and probably their chase for the next Fortnite.

[Greg Miller]

I'm sure the loss it was only a single digit million, right?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We'll get into that after a word from our sponsors.

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[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And we're back. I'm gonna talk about store number three, but before we do, I want to get in some super chats in here. Uh, Klonk writes in and says the current state of gaming has made me pick up some older, cheaper consoles like my PlayStation Vita and Wii. I wonder if others will start doing the same. Yeah, I feel like I've seen this from. I want to say I was talking to Roger. I was talking to him a while ago and he's talking about getting a flip phone. And I was like, ain't no way you're ever getting a flip phone. But I respect Augusto.

[Greg Miller]

That's the. What is that new that I, you know, I don't even know again what generation I am. I think I'm millennial technically or whatever the new is it. Gen Alpha is the youngest ones. Right now.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're millennials. Roger, I believe, is Gen Z and embarrassed. No, Gen Alpha, I think, is the newest one.

[Greg Miller]

I think there's a whole thing about how they're all making a push to. They don't want this connected world. They do want a flip phone that just does the phone. They do. They're buying the landlines again that they're reading books and they want CD players and all that jazz or whatever.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, Andy has the Ayn Thor, I believe is what it's called, right, where it's like his little emulation machine that he's playing all these old games on. I so badly want something like that. I've used my Steam deck, of course, but the idea, allegedly. But the idea of having something that is small. So I don't have to when I'm on the bar, I don't have to take out my phone. I want to mess around. I can play a little bit Link to the past or something. Yeah, that for me sounds like the dream. I'm sure plenty of Switch is just

[Greg Miller]

too big for you.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, I bought a little. I bought like a nicer Switch bag. But my Switch isn't something I carry around everywhere unless I'm.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We have another super chat coming from Saul Herrera who writes in and says genuinely everything is so exhausting. Love you guys for being a medium to watch and somewhat get away from play. P.S. greg sucks and bless your great. Thank you so much, Saul.

[Greg Miller]

I'm sorry, that's B Hole and I'm G spot. Let's get right when we're together, Saul.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We got another one from Flash Inferno who says I don't know if this has been mentioned in any way in any games daily this week, but Chilled Chaos announced He's retiring from YouTube slash streaming after 17 years. He's streaming until the end of May. Congratulations, Chilled Chaos. These pitches Love Sosa writes in and says Happy 20th Birthday to the PS3. US$600. Me.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, I know. Chill Chaos. Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Who's Chilled Chaos?

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo dude and I did a lot of stuff at when we were doing rooster teeth stuff. Still, he was on Monopoly with me and probably something else. It looks like he's lost a lot of weight though. Good for him. Unless I'm completely thinking of somebody different. Is that who it is? Because he's got the same eyes. It's gotta be him, right?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Stan is right. Saying it says Sally Field is also great in Smokey and the Bandit and Steel Magnolias.

[Greg Miller]

I'm drafting the letter now. I have it up in my thing here.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I want to say in college I watched a live production of Steel Magnolia is the one I'm thinking of.

[Greg Miller]

It's a good. That's a really good one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Last night I watched a live production of the Hamnet play. Really good. Except I fell asleep the entire second act. I was so tired.

[Greg Miller]

No shit. Really? You were so excited for it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I was so excited for it. Hamnet's like my. One of my favorite movies from last year in the first act. Incredible. But yeah, second half. Second act. I even took one of them five hour energies. It could not help me out.

[Greg Miller]

Damn.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Stay awake. I'll do one more from Big Curves in and says they should announce they're pushing PlayStation 6 due to financial pressures. Unveil cost savings for fans and make Xbox slip tone deaf with a $1200 helix. Here's the thing. I, I'm so curious on what Helix is because I think Xbox. I'm still of the mind that you need a Series S equivalent. I don't think you just put out a $1200 console and call it in

[Greg Miller]

this environment, in this market, apps. Yeah, you can that and that, that's why I think they're in such an interesting spot and terrifying again of like Asha is undoing a lot of different things it seems from the outside and what they're announcing. But I just don't know if you can undo the progress that was made already on the Xbox. But it's also a PC console that they were building. That Sarah Bond was like it's going to be a premium device.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Like and you can't. And it's. They're inside as an outsider looking in. They're in such a tough spot. Rock and hard place. Whatever analogy you want to use. Because it's like, well we can't put that out. But that's what we were marching towards. And you assumed that's what we've been developing. So like are we going to stop that to then make something smaller, a normal Xbox? And then in the same breath we can't stop because we don't have Xboxes on the shelves right now. Like how do we get Target and all these go put this in there. You know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like outrageous and yeah, like, I mean I don't think they're going to announce PlayStation 6 or that they're pushing it. Right. Like if you haven't announced it, why would you announce bad news? I think they would see that as bad news.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're playing this thing that we haven't even said exists yet. But I also do think. Yeah, you need, I think every company right now does need cost saving measures for, for people. Not need not. I mean it would be lovely for the consumer. Right. But also for them. Right. The idea that you want people in your ecosystem to actually be active and actually be long term consumers or whatever you want to call it. Yeah. You need people to go, I have a reason to still play on PlayStation or Xbox or Switch and I think that comes with PlayStation Plus Xbox Game Pass, Nintendo Switch online. Right.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Finding incentives and finding cost saving measures. I think around those to allow people to play games where they wouldn't be able to afford full price games.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That needs to be a thing like for the ecosystem.

[Greg Miller]

It's almost like Xbox had that and then gambled everything away, and now nobody knows what anybody is, there's no messages, and yada, yada, yada.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We just need two tiers, you know, let's bring it back down to two tiers. What's this shirt? I like this shirt.

[Greg Miller]

This is Ball Creative, LLC. This is from one of my favorite YouTubers, Nakey Jakey.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Miller]

This is a naked Jakey shirt. We, him and I are close friends. We're very, very close friends, as you probably know. And so, yeah, I've had this for a few months, but I thought I'd break it out.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Support my friends who are upstanding citizens.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I like that you didn't. You didn't say it like, you didn't, like, prompt me to say it. You waited for me to ask what this shirt was.

[Greg Miller]

I mean. I mean, honestly, I'm more wearing it to get Tim's ire during Gamescast, but I'm glad I was able to get you, too.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, I'm a big, naked Jakey

[Greg Miller]

F. Who is it?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know what? You're right.

[Greg Miller]

Him and Chilled Chaos right at the top of my sub feed.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know, story number three. Sony Records a new or so Sony Records new $560 million loss of Bungie

[Greg Miller]

acquisition I'm sorry, read it again.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What was that $560 million loss? Look how much they bought Bungie for.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, it's. You can buy $3.6 billion.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

About a sixth. Well, you know, 3.6. That's like 3.6. Oh yeah, they took that long, that loss on Bungie as Marathon struggles in Destiny 2 nose dives. This is from Even Gotch at Kotaku

[Greg Miller]

to stop real quick from what you're about to read. I like how you're like, look up how much they bought them for. And it is the seventh word of the sentence you're about to read.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Sony purchased Bungie for $3.6 billion back in 2022, on the eve of Destiny 2's best expansion ever. Just over four years later, the PlayStation 5 maker is recording a $560 million impairment loss for its fourth quarter of the 2025 fiscal year, which closed just four weeks after the launch of Marathon, the company pointed to, quote, recording of impairment losses against Bungie Inc's to intangible and other assets. To explain the negative factors impacting its otherwise decent performance, Sony recorded a total of nearly $765 million loss for the entire year on the Bungie deal, with the possibility of additional losses from the acquisition in fiscal year 2026. Marathon, Bungie's first new franchise in over a Decade, launched on March 5. Two months later, Sony still hasn't confirmed sales numbers for the Extraction shooter, let alone total player counts. Despite praise from fans and reviewers, Marathon has been unable to stay in the top 10 most played games each week on PS5, Xbox or PC is currently hovering between 10,000 and 15,000 concurrent players on Steam, the platform where it's reportedly sold the majority of its copies thus far. While it can't compare with the concurrent player numbers for Destiny 2 in the past, Bungie's famous Loot shooter has also seen better days. It's currently at its lowest point ever on Steam. Greg where does Bungie go from here? Where does PlayStation go from here with Bungie?

[Greg Miller]

I think they're. It brings me no joy to say this. There's only two options, and it is either, all right, cool. Everybody cut the and make Destiny 3. We're all in. We're making Destiny 3, or we're revitalizing Destiny 2. And, like, you know what I mean? But, like, we. You and I, know it well. You, the audience, know it well as well. DLCs, expansions. That is just an uphill climb of, like, getting people back to a game they've stopped playing. They know they stopped playing it for a reason, bringing them back. They all feel lost. Yada, yada, yada. It's. I think, as we've learned over this generation and maybe multiple generations, it's way easier to say Destiny 3 than Destiny 2 expansion number seven or whatever. Like, it's like, you know, DC Universe Online, a game I love that's been around for 15 years. And they're on episode 67 of. I'm like, I couldn't even. Where would I even. I don't even know.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There's so many games that are out there that I'll love to get into. You know, I hear people talk about Final Fantasy 14 all the time. And then people will be like, oh, yeah, Final Fantasy 14 is great. It just takes you about 80 hours to get to the really good shit. And I'm like, I don't know if I got that much time to get there.

[Greg Miller]

And so I think I. So I think you have just A and B choice here, which is a choice. Everybody, we're fucking making Destiny 3. Let's get going on this. Let's announce it. Probably too early, but get the audience excited, you know, spin up an expansion for Destiny 2 that fills in the gap that, you know, we can get out in a year and a half. Two years and then get Destiny 3 out in four, five, seven years, which, that's the realistic number. But four years, five years.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And then the other one is you close it or not. If not close, wind down to such a skeleton crew. That is, whatever. And then you and me, of course are not the business people. So I don't even understand where you get like the right. The write downs or you know what I mean, like there's the actual financial terms of how you get out of losing even more money on these kind of things and what it becomes. But I don't think, I don't think Bungie's future is bright at PlayStation. The present isn't bright and it hasn't been bright really since they've been bought. Right. So it really is. Here we go. You know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What's funny is I think the, the likely outcome that I see is a combination of both the outcomes you put out there of, hey, let's. All right, Destiny 3 is the next step. Let's announce it too early, let's work on it, get people hyped for it. And then two years later we go, okay, Destiny 3 is canceled. We couldn't make it there.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, exactly, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Story.

[Greg Miller]

Because that's again where I'm talk about. I'm saying you announce it too early. I think that's the, the, the card PlayStation plays to get people to at least check out the expansion that they're trying to get out their work, but more importantly for the shareholders, show that, hey, this is what we're doing. But yeah, then over time, inevitably it's the little leaks of like, okay, you know, oh no, not coming together, mismanaged. And this is wrong. And the creative director left and the new creative director.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, we're into a whole thing if I want to be on the more optimistic side of it.

[Greg Miller]

You go to our last. I'm sorry.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I really, really dig Marathon and the people that play marathon really, really dig it. Marathon. And I could see a world where we get a Rainbow six siege style. Oh, people slowly get into this thing and end up enjoying it and fall in love with it kind of thing.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And like maybe you get more players. Not enough to make it so that Bungie's making a trillion dollars or anything like that, but enough to get you to Destiny 3 in a way that makes people go, oh, wait, hold on. Marathon's fucking sick. We're all playing. We're all in on Marathon now. And then you get to Destiny 3 and it feels like a celebration Moment of like, okay, cool. Now here's our next thing that has even more people excited because the history of it, you know, that's it's always a tall ask to take something that's not setting the world on fire in terms of numbers and say, now, can we get this up to hundreds of thousands of concurrence?

[Greg Miller]

And I don't think you can. You know, I really don't think you. I. Is it impossible? Of course not. But the grit and determination it takes to become a cyberpunk story, to become a no Man's sky story, to become anyone who's able to overcome the odds of a bad launch, middling launch, whatever, where gamers, oh, we know what you are. And we have an opinion one way or the other. Like, the success stories you see on that front are usually in Final Fantasy. I would say maybe it's an exception to the rule, but I also think Square was a different company when they allowed Final Fantasy to reboot and do their whole thing. But it comes down to this grit, determination in wanting to do right by your audience, right? No Man's sky is Sean Murray and hello Games. That's a small group. They're able to do that Square. Not small by any stretch of the imagination, but back then they were a bit more freewheeling with the money and they were like, we want to make this work because Final Fantasy means something, right? Cyberpunk is CD Projekt Red, which we probably do think of now as a very big company because they are very CD Projekt a very big company, right? But at their core, from the game, the devs that gave you the Witcher 3 and you opened up and like, there's a little note of like, here's all this free dlc. We're going to keep giving. Like, they are doing right by their audience because they know that they're at least in the cyberpunk situation. CD Projekt is the antithesis to all the other people we're talking about today with their shots, stockholders, okay? When they ate it with cyberpunk, they were like, no, no, we are going commit to this and we are going to do this and we are going to get this right. Because we know if we don't, we are dead in the water for the next game and every other game after that. And we become a punchline, yada, yada, yada, rather than win back their goodwill with their audience and go for it. And so again, now we're talking about a PlayStation, a Sony that isn't a PS2, PlayStation, where I think you have people there who can say, we are going to eat shit and we are going to lose money and we are going to do this, but we're going to make it right and we're going to get it to where it needs to be. Instead you're sitting there with shareholders in bottom lines and games taking longer and this, that the other and blah blah, blah in audience that. I mean, sure, there's Helldivers, sure there's a million third party games that are not a million, but a lot of third party games are doing better, but an audience, I think that's very clear. Like we don't want this like PlayStation fan, like it's, it's doing really well on Steam. Right? It's the most popular platform. PlayStation fans are like, that's not. I'm playing PlayStation because I want to play 2K and I want to play Naughty Dog and I want to do whatever.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

My, my retort return, my counter to that would be when was the last brand new IP multiplayer game or on day one. Everybody said they wanted this, you know, like Apex Legends comes to mind. Right. But even that, it's like I, I think this, for this kind of game, when you're launching a marathon, you can't expect it to, to blow up on day one, on week one, on month one.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This is the kind of game, the kind of genre that you build over time. I know Arc raiders, Arc raiders actually might be the example I'm looking for.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, Actually, yeah, Arc raiders did, did

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

it last, I'm sure Marvel Rivals, if you want to count that. People in chat are saying high guard, which is hilarious, but like, you know, you are if your goal is to roll the die and go, we want to launch a brand new multiplayer IP and have it be a amazing success in month one. You have to know those are losing odds. Like you have to go into it knowing that you're.

[Greg Miller]

I don't think PlayStation brass did. I don't think Jim Ryan did know that those are impossible odds. I don't think the Sony shareholders do know those are lost odds. They are the people who are looking at, why isn't it Fortnite? Why aren't we as successful as Fortnite? They don't understand how this sausage got made. And so I think that's the problem where I think you're also dealing with, you know, if you want to launch this multiplayer. I don't think that's what PlayStation wants to do. PlayStation wants to launch the biggest fucking success of all Time and be like, we're humongous. And like, I don't think they're like, we need to do right by multiplayer players.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, but that's why you bought Bungie. You can't, I know we're in a place of PlayStation, probably turn turning the ship right now, but you also can't have your cake and eat it too. As far as we're gonna buy Bungee, we're gonna, we're gonna continue to see their multiplayer new extraction shooter through and we're gonna play and we're. When they, when it does what it's probably expected to do, we're gonna go, that's not what we wanted from it. It's like you can't, that's just something you can't do. You can do.

[Greg Miller]

Sure, that's fair, that's fair.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

They might be doing it, you know what I mean? Like they might be going, ah, shit, well that's not good. But like that's a lose, lose game for Bungie in that case that we're talking.

[Greg Miller]

I just, I, I agree with that. I agree with that. I just feel like even with Bungie, PlayStation and people at the top must have been like, oh, we're buying Bungie. So we're, we're getting to skip a step. We're going to have a built in audience that knows online shooters. That's going to be their day one and we are going to be humongous out the gate and then that just isn't the case. And I think that then you go, okay, well what are we doing? Yeah, there's also, I don't think they have the grit and determination for me.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There's also the Extraction Shooter part of it where I'm like, for some reason every big company sees Extraction Shooter as the golden goose right now.

[Greg Miller]

And that Disney one, don't forget about.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I mean that's why I predicted the Disney one, because of that exact thing, right? Like, hey, every big company, every big company that wants to make a multiplayer game right now is going to make an Extraction Shooter. And I don't know why, I don't know why everybody looked at Tarkov and went, yes, we all want to do a Tarkov, but like really you all want to do Tarkov? I don't know. I find it to be an insane thing. I, I like it because I like this style of game, but not in the sense of we want this to blow up. I like it in the sense of marathon is a fucking good game. You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, fair. Fair, fair, fair.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I. I want there to be space for that in the ecosystem. But, yeah, I understand that success has to happen, but. Yeah, I just find it very confusing.

[Greg Miller]

I agree.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I find it very, very confusing.

[Greg Miller]

You know what I find confusing?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What's that?

[Greg Miller]

Trying to contact Sally Field. All right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Are you. What are you doing?

[Greg Miller]

I'm going to an expert. Not for a connection, but for advice. Okay, okay. I just need advice.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The expert on contacting Sally Field. That's correct, Aunt May from Amazing Spider Man.

[Greg Miller]

Yes, that's correct.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Interesting.

[Greg Miller]

Hello?

[Jack Quaid]

Well, well, well. It looks like you were trying to reach Jack Quaid, but it is me, Vegeta, prince of all fans. Yes, yes, yes. What are you? Presented by Exit 8 today. What's happening?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, there's a. Thank you for asking. Yes, Jack Quaid, if you didn't know. Everybody, exit 8 is out on digital. You can go get it. It's a great movie.

[Jack Quaid]

Does a machine like yourself ever experience fear?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Jack Quaid]

I, too, have the power of a God.

[Greg Miller]

Well, thank you. Thank you, Vegeta. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Can you put Jack on the phone for me?

[Jack Quaid]

Oh, yes, of course. He's just drinking a massive, massive smoothie. One second.

[Greg Miller]

This is Saiyan Pride.

[Jack Quaid]

Oh, sorry, that was. Hey. Hey, Greg.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Hey, Jack, it's me. How are you? Greg?

[Jack Quaid]

Hi.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, sorry.

[Jack Quaid]

Vegeta's. I don't know why I give Vegeta my phone.

[Greg Miller]

You know, I mean, when he's got the pipes like that, you have to. And he's just so. He's beloved by the audience, so that's great. We're always a fan of that.

[Jack Quaid]

Beloved. Beloved, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

How are you? How are you?

[Jack Quaid]

I'm good, I'm good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. Just chilling.

[Jack Quaid]

I'm in Utah.

[Greg Miller]

Are you shooting something? You shooting a movie?

[Jack Quaid]

I. Probably not. I'm just gonna just kind of live here until one shoots here. That's kind of my.

[Greg Miller]

Fair enough. Oh, I like that. You're calling the shot. You're making the.

[Jack Quaid]

Go to a location that seems filmmable and just wait it out.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah. Well, this is. This is. I'm glad you have some free time in Utah, because I need advice. Okay. Now, as always, this will be a walk, but stick with me, okay. Have you ever heard of Sally Field?

[Jack Quaid]

Of course I've heard of Sally Field. She's a legend.

[Greg Miller]

Sally Field likes the Legend of Zelda and plays it on the switch, too, and has been. She's been playing Zelda, apparently since doing Mrs. Doubtfire with Robin. Williams, rest in peace. So.

[Jack Quaid]

Really?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, 100%. This is real. I know. It's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Don't try to drop facts on us. We know all that.

[Jack Quaid]

All right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

[Greg Miller]

So sorry. So now the question I have for you is this. I'm on. I don't know. I want to get Sally Field on the show to talk about Zelda. I have the IMDb Pro thing pulled up for this kind of thing. Do I write to the talent agent, the manager, or the publicist?

[Jack Quaid]

Oh, God, I think the publicist.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, okay. And then you exist in.

[Tim Gettys]

Huh?

[Greg Miller]

Hold on.

[Tim Gettys]

Vegeta has a. Jesus Christ.

[Jack Quaid]

I think the best thing to do would be if you know anyone who might have a connection to Sally Field. Big Zen, by the way, I'll bring it back to Jack now. Hi.

[Greg Miller]

Hey. Can you pass it back? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Real quick, can you pass it back to Vegeta?

[Jack Quaid]

Okay. Are you sure? Okay.

[Greg Miller]

It'll be one question.

[Jack Quaid]

Does he want to talk? Fantastic.

[Greg Miller]

Hello, Vegeta. Are you a big fan of me or Sally Field?

[Jack Quaid]

I'm a big fan of Sally Field.

[Greg Miller]

Ah, fair enough. All right.

[Jack Quaid]

How are you?

[Greg Miller]

Okay, please pass. That's insulting. Please. You knew about the Exit 8 sponsorship. Vegeta. I don't know what you're talking about. Pass it back to Objective.

[Jack Quaid]

Love that film.

[Greg Miller]

Available now. It's out on digital right now. Yeah.

[Jack Quaid]

Oh, fantastic.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Jack Quaid]

I'm gonna go back to being in Utah. Goodbye.

[Greg Miller]

Enjoy, Enjoy. All right, so I hear you on that, but it's like I never want to abuse my relationships and have somebody. Hey, can you, you know, contact Sally Field for me?

[Jack Quaid]

Here's, here's what I'll do. I don't know if I have any connection to Sally Field, but, you know, every. Hollywood's a small town. I'll, I'll put my feelers out. I want to get Sally Field on your show.

[Greg Miller]

Well, that's the thing, right? What if what this could combo wombo. I do. I'll hit up the publicist, I'll send this clip and I'll say, brings we want Sally Field. And she can talk about our new movie, which actually she didn't sponsor this episode. We're not gonna say it, but she can talk about her new movie and we'll have Jack Quaid on it and we can all talk about Zelda together.

[Jack Quaid]

I, I, I, I love this. I would love to meet Sally Field.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Jack Quaid]

A kind of funny live stream.

[Greg Miller]

Perfect. That's what we're gonna do then. That's the pitch, everybody. All right. Thank you, Jack. Thank you, Vegeta.

[Jack Quaid]

Thank you. Thank you so much. Goodbye.

[Greg Miller]

Bye. Bye. I like he's just yelling at a smoothie shop, you know, Vegeta's got no show.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Vegeta didn't sound like Vegeta toward the end of that call.

[Greg Miller]

He can only do it for so long. All right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Over time, we kind of lost the Vegeta. But I love Jack Quaid.

[Greg Miller]

I love Jack Wade, too. Thank you, Jack. Thank you.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Thank you so much, Jack Wade. Let's move on to story number four. PlayStation sees AI as a powerful Tool to Help Make Games this is Jay Peters at the Verge. As part of an earnings presentation on Friday, Sony shared how it's thinking about AI at the company, including many details about how it's evaluating AI as part of making PlayStation games. Generative AI has recently been showing up in bigger games, though many indie developers still reject it. And while Sony calls AI a powerful tool, it says that the vision, the design and the emotional impact of our games will always come from the talent of our studios and performers, and that AI is meant to augment their capabilities, not replace them at its own studios. Sony says that developers are automating repetitive workflows, improving software engineering productivity and accelerating areas like quality assurance, 3D modeling and animation through new AI powered tools. One example is with a tool called Mockingbird that can animate 3D facial models using performance captured data. And Sony says that Mockingbird is finishing animation work that previously took hours in a friction of in a fraction of a second that last or the last of us Studio Naughty Dog and God of War developer Sony Santa Monica are among those that have used the tool, and work from Mockingbird has shown up in titles including Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered. However, we are quote, we are not replacing human performers, but rather optimizing how we process the data from these live captures, according to Sony. Sony also says that it has partnered with Bandai Namco to explore how generative AI and the latest technologies can most effectively contribute to to realizing a creator's vision in the realm of video production. Through their explorations, the companies have identified massive gains in speed and productivity per person and opportunities where AI can produce highly sophisticated and realistic outputs that otherwise haven't been feasible due to time constraints. But Sony also notes the lack of consistency and controllability as a weakness of generative AI models. Greg do we give up? Do we just give up? Do we just go it, do what you want? I don't care anymore.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know, I'm just watching movies from now on, which I'm sure also happen.

[Greg Miller]

No, yeah. You saw this. I saw this.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Did you see this stupid clip going around? Repeat.

[Greg Miller]

You see this stupid clip going around? That's AI of this Will Smith eating spaghetti.

[Tim Gettys]

No, no, no.

[Greg Miller]

I know. We talk about that too much. No, this one is like this woman and man arguing in front of the Golden Gate Bridge and then like a meteor hits behind them and a tidal wave comes and they stop arguing and kiss right before they get destroyed or whatever. And like I saw. So I can't not see it because it's just on a feed. I'm like, oh, fuck. And it's like people like the people who are idiots celebrating, like man, you know, 3.5 million views or whatever the fuck it is. And like not even one. And it's like you're forcing me to watch it. It's at the top of the feed and I watch it go. Oh, that's hideous. It's horrible. Like, you know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's the same way where I'm using Google Docs for this, right? Like Google Docs has Gemini.

[Greg Miller]

Gemini not.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Can you just.

[Greg Miller]

Can I summarize? Can you hit this little thing we put right next to the.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm sure right now they're counting me in as a data point for AI. Oh yeah. Oh, so yeah, like for sure everybody's using AI is if every time you actively.

[Greg Miller]

Here's the thing. And if we can all. We're. We just had a great moment with Jack and Vegeta. We're all on the same page here. That generative AI sucks. We hate that. So it's nice to see PlayStation call this out. That people are always going to be the forefront of this and yada yada blah blah, blah. I still have to believe that there are things non generative AI, just AI coding, scripting, whatever can do to help everybody to some degree, right? It's the fact right now that you just can't separate the wheat from the shaft here, right? Of just things are being shoved down your throat left and right. Google fucking do like get the fuck out. I don't need you to write the email for me. Get the. You know what I mean? People using ChatGPT to get out of college. He's that kid when he was like fucking. He graduated and he was in it. In. Did you see this? No clip going around the other day of this guy. Whatever college graduation. Like the camera's going to ground and the kid was like cheering, turned his computer and scrolled through his entire chat GPT history of him asking the questions to do the essays of the homework or whatever and them generating. It's like, Jesus, like, what? But like, to the point of I don't make video games. I'm not. We don't make video games.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I. You don't know about my video games or not? You know, I can be in there cooking.

[Greg Miller]

No, I know some of the things you make.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, yeah, making some things. Yeah, I'll make a video game. I want to.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, that's really cool. You should do that. Have you thought about using generative? But anyway, getting into the automating repetitive workflows and improving productivity. And yet it's like, I am not boots on the ground there. Where is somebody who is doing all that going, no, my God, no. This is making my job obsolete. This is doing it poorly. Like, I don't like that sounds good to a degree of being like, hey, it's gonna go through and do the fucking Excel spreadsheet that you. Is keeping you from the part of the job you want to do. And so I'm not. None of us are, I think, trained boots on the ground enough to sit there and go, well, no, that actually is bad for everybody. Or that could be, you know, and then, not to mention then we're just getting into AI in general. Like, is this one of the AIs that's drinking the lakes that's killing everything we're doing Mr.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Wonderful thing.

[Greg Miller]

Like, there's so much going on that I do believe that there are good uses for AI, period. Generative AI is not it. I do not want to consume generative AI. I want to see fucking awesome movie. Like this sounds like I'm pimping for the movie. I'm not. Exit 8. Was it you that told me there's somebody else? The behind the scenes clip of how they did it with the guy? Because like the guy walks through them.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And like, I thought it was you

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

that told me I was in the conversation. Because he has like the guy.

[Greg Miller]

The guy walks past the camera and then he gets on a bike and rides all the way around the set and then does the walk again. It's like, that's fucking really cool of like watching how you go and make something like that. Like, that's awesome. I want that back to just my thing from yesterday mixtape. I'm playing that and it's like, this couldn't be made by AI. Like, this is like, you know, Nostalgia and moments and all this different stuff. Like, I don't want to consume things made by AI. So it's like, but if AI can help my creators create things and get to what they want to do better, I'm not against it. As long as it's not killing the earth.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I agree. I'm definitely like, I. I don't want to be the person that goes in detail by detail and go, this is good, this is bad, this is good, this is bad. We're talking about automating repetitive workflows. For me, I'm like, okay, that sounds like it's in the category of fine improving software engineering productivity. For me, that sounds like it's fine animation. I'm like, I don't know about that. But like, like, I'm also, I, again, to be frank, the word of the day that I'm going to use apparently, like, yeah, I'm not the person to ask about what's good, what's bad. I think I just get, I'm just exhausted about AI, period. I'm not saying it's all terrible, right? I'm not saying, you know, I don't know, man. I. I think I just get exhausted when it is the number one talking point across every company. Because for me, that's the thing that feels transparent and only for the dollars and cents, right? Like, I'm not discounting technology. I'm. For me, it's more so just everybody is in love with AI all of a sudden. And it's very clearly because you are speaking to shareholders and doing these things. And I know, even though I'm sure there are plenty of ways you're using this stuff in, in good ways, I think inherently you're probably just gonna. You're also going to be using it in terror in, like, I'm not gonna say terrible, but in the ways that we don't want. I just have to assume that when

[Greg Miller]

it is ultima, Josh has a super chat Sony, that's gonna go too fast. You read it. Do you have your super chats up Ultimate Josh, that last.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, they write in and say, sony, Sony. Saying that is just the same bs. They all say, but at the end of the day, they will use AI to increase profits by cutting the workforce, period. That is what capitalism does. And yeah, that's kind of the point that I'm trying to drive at here. Right. Is like, for me, it's all a tool to go, hey, we're increasing optimization. And also we're going to lay. We're going to Lay a bunch of people off. But don't worry about that. We're increasing optimization. Give us more money. Because AI is an easy way to go. Give us more money.

[Greg Miller]

Now I'm about to say something that is probably stupid and will piss people off. I don't mean it that way though. But my argument is when we say that and it's increasing my optimization and it'll probably lose a job even though the next one after that is a VO person. I don't want. If you don't mind reading that in a second, but stick with me for a second. It's going to increase optimization. It'll probably end in capital. It's like, yes. Is that bad? And I don't mean like, are losing jobs bad, Greg Dumb. I mean like, like, okay, like, are we. It's the same reason newspapers are failing or fail have failed to the degree they did. As somebody who's trained as a newspaper reporter and loves newspapers, it's like, well, yeah, but the web is faster and is it better? Well, we're not checking our sources as much and et cetera. Why? Like, there's a conversation to have, but instantaneous news is what people want. Right? That's what we of an audience wants. The same thing here of like, if the job of someone. The Internet is there, going all day long through spreadsheets and doing this thing that takes them eight hours. But suddenly I can do that. Yeah, we lose the intern. We lose the person who's the data number cruncher. Losing a job sucks. I'm not saying that's. But are we holding on to that job just because we need to have a job for there when it could. Am I making sense? This isn't a well thought out. I am percolating on a point. Please don't attack me. I'm just having a conversation of like, like, at what point is there legitimate, like, cool. There's a sea change here. And are we the people who. Are we selling horses and we're mad at people for driving cars? Like, when Henry Ford makes the assembly line. Are we mad? Like, there's these different changes and shifts when we talk about it. That yes, are the assembly line. Wow, what an invention to put a lot of people out of work and make cars faster and make more money? Yes, this is capitalism. I understand that but like, capitalism is rampant and still going on. And is there any ethical consumption in capitalism? The answer is no, I don't. And I'm. I'm just talking here. I'm being. I'm not being a Host. I'm just being Greg.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think there's so many different threads to grab onto that we definitely don't have time to do today. We should have like, we should have an AI person on. Like, I know that sounds like a terrible idea, but just to have the conversation, have the back and forth and be like, yo, let's dig into this shit and, and, and, and, and talk about it with depth. Because obviously, like, I think sometimes it feels like we're out of depth because we're not.

[Jack Quaid]

I'm.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're not AI, you know, we're using AI. It.

[Greg Miller]

I'm here to tell you if game is fun or not. That is my job.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, but I think there's so many threads. One of it being like, okay, we're drinking all the lakes. Fuck the lakes. I think another threat for me is, yeah, when I read stories like this, for me, it's not necessarily like, I don't automatically assume that PlayStation, Xbox, any of these companies are only using AI in the good ways, not the bad ways.

[Greg Miller]

Of course, you know, of course they are.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

For me, I think that's the number two thing of like, all right, like, you know, when am I going to see a fucking weird face? Or when are we going to get to the Nvidia DLSS5 thing of, oh, you're taking a character that an artist puts much work into and you're turning them into like a fucking bathing suit model from a magazine. Because that's what this thing scraped off

[Greg Miller]

the Internet to pivot to this and use the real thing here, right where they're talking about the Mockingbird facial animation. Right. Mockingbird is a finishing animation work that previously took hours in a fraction of a second. Again, is that removing someone's job? Yeah. I remember being at Sucker Punch for infamous second son visits and walking through and then going into a room where they were like, here is Delson and here's where we're hand animating every face and doing everything. And they did like choice face up and down inside and whatever, you know, all these things that we see now all the time in documentaries or whatever. And so like, if this is coming in and doing that, my good faith argument isn't. I don't think somebody's job there was. I'm just the face guy. I think it was like part of the thing that's on their platter. And so if this was doing that, then obviously a human has to come in and make the minute changes, the very, the finishing touches crafted to where it is. You know what I Mean, but is this. And I don't know, is this Mockingbird tool helping someone do something that maybe they didn't love? If it's shaving off hours of them having to sit there and hand animate the face and get it, and then now they can go in and be like, oh, well. And that scene, it looks like fucking trash. So I'm gonna go in and tweak it and do this. Like, yeah, is it. Or are. Is all that happening? And we're training the AI model to then be like, cool, I can do it all without you now.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I don't.

[Greg Miller]

Fuck.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's the meme. Somebody post this over the Internet. I think I saw Barrett repost it to a story of a dude, like, laying in the park drawing, and somebody comes up and is like, you can have any. I do that for you. And he's like, why would I do that? He's like, well, yeah. And he's like. Like, I forget the. The way the meme goes, but essentially the idea of, oh, I like doing art. Why would I have an AI come through and do this thing for me when this is what my passion is?

[Greg Miller]

And so then we're into a grip. That's a much more interesting conversation, I think, because then you get into, cool. Is the person animating the face? Is that their passion? You know, again, I doubt they're just the face person. Are they also concept arts? I don't. That wouldn't make any sense, but you know what I mean, Animation, sculpting, all

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

these different things, I, you know, have a little bit of clarity on this. On. I know someone who sometimes animates faces.

[Jack Quaid]

You do.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That is all she was doing.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know, without like, naming studios and stuff. Like, I know for sure that she animated a bunch of faces. And, like, that was all she did. And she really liked it. And she was very passionate about it. She is very passionate about it. I mean, she's. She's moved up on companies now, but so, yeah, I don't like. They're definitely. Paula's job at one point was to

[Greg Miller]

do that real quick. I want to bring in Andy, of course, who of course, has made games and worked on games. Andy, in the Twitch chat, says, speaking from experience, I would have loved to have some AI tech to have retropologize my 3D sculpts to get me back to the funner shit. He would have loved to have had. So, again, everybody, we're doing the Chris Pratt Raptor thing of, like, we're not fighting. This is not A fight. We're just having an open conversation about, like, how this could actually help people but not take over and take over the whole job.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, sure, yeah. I mean, is that. Is that what companies do?

[Greg Miller]

You know?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, like, yeah, they make tools to help people or. But here's your ultimate goal. To employ less people because they save more money that way. Like, that's the reality of things. Of, like, I am. Like, I don't want to speak for my wife. I'm not trying to do that. But, like, I think that this is something that she's worried about, you know, Understandably so.

[Greg Miller]

But here's the thing, too. Like, this is the crazy multiverse we're talking about of all this shit, right? Where it's like, yeah, if PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo, whoever bites on this and goes that way and da, da, da. And get. Eventually their stuff gets there and it's soulless. And so it is that conversation of not to throw the baby out with the bathwater again. But, like, what about when there is these smaller studios that are. I do not want to animate fucking faces. You know what I mean? And they're able to use. Use a tool in a giant thing to get back to what Andy's talking about, the funner. They want to do. Like, don't get me wrong, I definitely feel it. I don't know.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm just talking back to you. Like, I Sometimes. Every now and then, I'll get into FL Studio and I'll make music for fun, right? Like, I like making beats sometimes. And one of the things. One of the things I hate doing the most is sometimes I want to recreate. I want to sample something, right? I want to sample a song. And sometimes I'll go to the Donkey Kong country sound. This is a literal example that I've done. Went to the donkey soundtrack. I don't think this is. But went to the Don Kong country soundtrack and listened to Sticker Brush Symphony, and I recreate the melody in FL Studio. I'd much rather be able to press a button and then, boom, spit that melody out in, like, the piano roll on FL Studio so that, again, I can get to doing the fun shit. I can chop it up, rearrange it, do all that shit, right? Like, I definitely don't. I totally agree. As far as the steps toward creativity, that feel like more busy work, right? How do we optimize and get rid of those and make them more frictionless? But, yeah, for me, I come back to the Kevin thing and I come. I just come back to looking at the capitalistic world we live in and go, cool.

[Greg Miller]

This won't be used for good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This won't be used for good. This is going to be a step to go. Now we can employ less people because we can have the same level of productivity with one person instead of two. Get rid of one of them. Yeah, and that's my. That's my big fear.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, man. If we. If I could pull the plug on AI right now and put the genie back in the bottle and get rid of all this shit, I would do it. Heartbeat. Like, period. I don't care. Take longer with your games. You know what I mean? But then we're back to this conversation of what the big company wants out of it, which is why I continue. This is the. This is a weird one, I think, but like, maybe a diatribe. But like, this year, the indie slate of games is so much more exciting to me every time. When we sit down and do this month in games, like, don't get me wrong, obviously I'm excited for a Pecopia or I'm excited for Wolverine, but it's like when we sit there and we're like, hey, here's every game coming out and the things I add to that wish list and then I'm getting on a weekly drip feed basis, it's like, I love this so much more than. And what are we gonna do with Marathon? You know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, yeah, like, I'll do you one first actually. No, you one further. I was gonna talk about a game that I didn't want to talk about,

[Greg Miller]

but, like, do it well. Here's the.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, I find AAA games so boring nowadays. Like, so boring. I get so much more excited about indie games. I know people come back. People get mad at me over that. Right? When I review Pragmata and I'm like, I think this game is okay. I don't think this game is the best thing since sliced bread. And I think one of the reasons is because I've played games like Pragmata a million times. Nothing wrong. Pragmata, right? Like, I'm not trying to hate on it. I'm not trying to yuck people's yums. I recommended Pragmatic to like, a few friends.

[Greg Miller]

What did you give again? 8.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

6.5. 6. I give it a 6.5. And like, again, I think that game's fine. I think it's okay. But I get way more excited about a mixtape. I get way more excited about a mugenics or Hades 2 or playing something that's Coming up. There's so many games that feel fresh and new to me and that, that's the. That still fills me with passion.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. You know, 100. You are nail on the head on that one. Bless. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I'm not trying to say that like every AAA game is bad or okay or whatever. Like, I'm so excited for 007 for a slight. It's probably going to be a game of the year of mine if it lives up. But yeah, for me, there's. There's just way more creativity happening on the indie side.

[Greg Miller]

I love that. That's what instills confidence in the industry going forward in my mind where it is, like, yeah, it sucks to see all these people chasing fucking profits in their tails and trying to figure out how to shove AI in or at least speak about AI so they can get their shareholders excited or act like they're doing due diligence or whatever the fuck it is is. But like, inevitably all these companies, these big companies are going to get closed or sold or spent. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, there are. What is up with my voice this week? And only I'm getting the rest of the day. It's fine. This cough will not push you to the limit.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's okay.

[Greg Miller]

No, yeah. We're just having a great conversation. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Come on.

[Greg Miller]

Come on.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. I know Tim wants to come and talk about this Nintendo thing, but, you know, he can wait.

[Greg Miller]

He can.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We're 17 minutes late, by the way.

[Greg Miller]

Well, we started late too, so really, we're probably 10 minutes late. 10 minutes. Yeah. And late. We can do whatever we want. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Do you have any more on this

[Greg Miller]

or should I move on? I mean, we could just keep spinning our wheels.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's true.

[Greg Miller]

AI is not great. We don't like it. But here we are living in the world.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Let's close out with story number five. Nintendo's Takashi Tezuka, director of classic Mario and Zelda games, is retiring. I am pulling from Andy Robinson at Video Games Chronicle. Veteran Nintendo designer Takashi Tezuka has directed some of the company's most influential games, stretching back back to the original Super Mario Brothers, is retiring from the company. In a note published alongside its latest financial results, Nintendo confirmed that Tezuka will retire from his role as an executive officer on June 26, 2026. Tezuka is one of the most experienced game designers at Nintendo, having directed classic games such as Zelda, Super Mario World, Zelda, Link to the Past, and Yoshi's Island. Most recently, Tezuka was The producer of Super Mario brothers wonder. At 65, Tezuka is at Nintendo's typical retirement age, though his Longtime collaborator Miyamoto, who's 73, remains active at the company as an executive fellow. Tim, you wanted to come on to talk about this.

[Tim Gettys]

I did. I didn't want to replace Greg, but he's over there. He has a mic. If he has any input he wants to give. But of course, I had to be here. This is such huge news.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

This is the type of. Wow. We are really at the end of an era. The beginning of a new one when it comes to video games. Like, you reading that being, like, having directed classic games such as Zelda.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yep.

[Tim Gettys]

We're not saying Zelda, the franchise. We're talking about the original Legend of Zelda.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Tim Gettys]

And link to the Past and many, many more after that. It's so wild. I was, like, looking at a list of games that he's been a major part of. So producer all the way up to director, and comparing it to my top hundred list. There are over 15 games that this man was a key component of creating. There's so. Look at his Wikipedia. Do yourself a favor and just read through it today at some point to just gain an appreciation to. For the what this man gave us in addition to directing some of these amazing games, like, literally some of our favorite games of all time. Core member of Super Mario 64. Right. Director of Yoshi's Island. Director of Mario 3 Mario Bros. He was, like, one of seven people that worked on that, that he created so many things. He was the one that did the sprite work for Mario 3. He's the one that designed Yoshi. He's the one that created Booze. And the story there is super fun where he. He kept working incredibly long hours and went home to his wife, and she would turn and yell at him and he would freeze, and he's like, I need to turn this into a gameplay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I know what to do with this. I'm inspired.

[Greg Miller]

Booze were born.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's awesome. Hey, I get it. Boo. Because that's. Boo.

[Tim Gettys]

There we go. There we go. There's layers of this. Yeah, but, dude, dude, I mean, what's your takeaway here?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, you said. You said it all right. Just the fact that we have a legend that's been around the industry for that long and that we're in an industry that is old enough to now have the original legends start to retire. Retire in, like, graceful MANNER.

[Tim Gettys]

Right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm 65. It is retirement age. I can just step away and go live the rest of my life after having done an amazing thing. I'm sure if he wanted to, he could probably go the Miyamoto route and stay involved at the age of 73. But not everybody wants that.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, not every.

[Tim Gettys]

Everyone wants that. And we'll see. Like, maybe he will in some forms or other, because some of his more recent credits were the Mario movies. Like, that is something that he has been keenly a part of. Like, when you watch the credits, his name is like one of the first names that you see. And so, yeah, it's like he's been a core part of what made Nintendo Nintendo. Now, I don't look at this as like, oh, man, we're fucked, or Nintendo's fucked. I think they've done such an amazing job passing their franchises down to key creators that really, truly understand the vision. You know, Barrett did his amazing Zelda series, talking about all the different Zelda games, and, you know, he was really getting into how Fuji. Fuji Bayashi is really kind of the creative head of Zelda, even though Aonuma gets all the credit these days. And, you know, they're. They're president now that we are continuing to see so much in the Switch era, like, being so such a core Nintendo creative sense, like Mario Galaxy and all of that. Like, going forward, we're just in a newer era of, you know, Mario Odyssey wasn't directed by the old guard, it was directed by a new guard that was able to work alongside this old guard for so long. And that, you know, industry experience that we. We always talk about, like, Nintendo thrives in that. And it's just. It's wild to get here and. And see that we have. We're at the point that people are retiring and this is. This is the. The end, or this is the beginning of the first class being done.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Tim Gettys]

The names Koji Kondo are still there. Shigeru Miyamoto still there. But not forever, you know, and that's gonna just continue to keep happening. So play one of his games today. It won't be hard. You'll have a good time.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, pick us. Mario Wonder, maybe. You know, I love that one. Tim, thank you so much for joining me for this. Yes, and also congratulations to Tezuka Legend.

[Tim Gettys]

Legend

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

man Greg Tezuka retiring. That is huge, huge news. But if I wanted something smaller, say the tiniest news I needed to know about, where would I go?

[Greg Miller]

You'd go to our last news story, the Wii News Channel, where we run you through all the small news items you need to know.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

About number six is we news from Gematsu. Capcom has released a free update for Resident Evil Requiem, which adds the new minigame mode, Leon Must Die Forever. Leon Must Die Forever is an extra game mode that is unlocked after players complete the main story and comes packed with a non stop combat action that players know and love from legendary agent Leon Kennedy. Fight your way through areas you visited previously throughout the game and defeat the final boss. All with stronger enemy variants, five increasingly difficult difficulty ranks, and a race against the clock. Fill your enhancement gauge by defeating enemies in order to unlock Leon's enhancer abilities exclusive to this game mode. I was really excited to check this out and then I realized that I played through Requiem during the Marathon stream.

[Greg Miller]

You never finished on your own unit.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't have. Yeah, I don't have a safe on my unit. I don't even know if I own the game. And so I don't know if I'll be able to get to this unless I steal indie save or do something there. PlayStation 5 shipments and sales surpassed 93.7 million units. That was attached to all the financial talk we had earlier, but we didn't have that detail. Paranormal Activity Threshold has been canceled. Oh, very Sad.

[Greg Miller]

What? Oh.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

10 tracks from the upcoming Star Fox game are now available on Nintendo Music. I was listening to those yesterday on the Bart.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, it sounds like I'm listening to Star wars, which I know is the inspiration for Star Fox, but the quality just sounds amazing. I love it.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Honestly has me kind of like maybe I looked at the Star Fox game kind of wrong.

[Greg Miller]

Maybe I judged you too roughly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, maybe the. Maybe the animals aren't too real. Seiro no Defeat will premiere on September 4th in Japan. From MP first, this is a report Netflix's Is Devil May Cry renewed for a third season. And then finally from Noble, Blindfire got one last update and got rebranded to Blindfire. Lights out. That made the game free to play and decided to keep the servers online indefinitely instead of shutting it down. Okay, love that.

[Greg Miller]

You love to see it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And that is it for Wii News. Let's knock out a couple of super chats and get out. See, weapons are part of my. Dot, dot, dot. Sorry, cut off says. Hey, Greg, longtime listener.

[Greg Miller]

Hi.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Totally off topic. Will we ever get a grandma can't juke shirt again? Wait, now I'm not sure if it was an actual thing. Regardless, we need a limited line. Grandma can't juke.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know what that means. That's. I mean, that's very Much. You know, we say things on these shows. I assume maybe that came up at some point with Mike or whatever, but maybe I said it. I don't know. I don't know what that is. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Grandma Miller versus the raccoon. I think that was it. When they, when DuPage County Animal Control wanted Grandma Miller to go put a box on the raccoon. I was like, yeah, she can't get away. Okay, that makes sense. No, you're never getting that shirt.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Numiteo says, do you feel the same way about AI code? It was built off the same principles of taking from stack overflow and GitHub. Just like with artists. Yeah, I mean, my biggest hangups with, with AI are thievery and killing the trees. If you can get around those things, then I think there' a bit better conversation we can have there about the uses, the, the uses for it. Let's see. Ultima. Josh says Sony saying that. Sony saying that is just the same B.S. they all say, but at the end of the day they will use a. Increase profits by cutting the workforce. Period. That is what capitalism.

[Greg Miller]

We read this one, we read this talk.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, we read that one.

[Greg Miller]

I called that out as like making the point. We were driving out there. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Daniel says if Sony closes Bungie, Xbox should buy it it and revitalize Halo with their name on it alone.

[Greg Miller]

That'd be crazy.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, that'd be such a twist. That'd be honestly my fix a lot of things. PlayStation and Xbox looked at each other and went, let's have a trade.

[Greg Miller]

Listen, we both made mistakes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Just have Bungie take them back.

[Greg Miller]

You know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That might fix the industry.

[Greg Miller]

Man, that's crazy about like you leave your wife, go to a new wife, then you divorce that wife and go back to the original wife.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, oh, thank God. Let's see here. Bender says after reading Nintendo's financials, Mario Kart world sold about 0.7 million this quarter. This comes after losing the console bundle. So it seems like the $80 version is not selling a lot of $50 games from Nintendo now. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. The Mario Kart World might not be selling as fast currently.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Just because I don't think it has the. That same word of mouth of Mario Kart.

[Greg Miller]

No. And also, you know, we always talk about this where it's like, like Mario Kart 8 has so much time build up and be there. But like, I don't think the reaction

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

to Switch 3 is going to get Mario Kart World Deluxe. And it's going to be the greatest game ever created. Trust me.

[Greg Miller]

Hell yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And then we'll knock out this what Last one from Joshua Frog, who says just got to switch to for my mom for Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day, Joshy Frog's mom. And Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there coming up this Sunday.

[Greg Miller]

Happy Mother's Day, everybody. My mom got her flowers today.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Time for you're wrong where you write in. Let us know what we got wrong as we got it wrong so we can correct it for those watching later on YouTube and listening later on podcast services around the globe. Jeopo, I don't like you. Tundra said it's sticker Bush symphony, not sticker brush. I it up every single time.

[Greg Miller]

Don't worry about that dork.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Who Jeppo? I just want them to know I don't like you. Right. Keep doing this. And no, I'm not going to read it anymore.

[Greg Miller]

I'm not going to read it anymore.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Let's see. Let's see. Vander says the kid. The video of the kid who showed his chat GPT history was heavily editorialized. The graduate came out and explained he was showing a small bit of chat GPT logs used for a machine learning class. It was used with the encouragement of his professor. Certain outlets made up a context for what was being shown in the video.

[Greg Miller]

Fair enough. Yeah. I did no research into this. I just saw him celebrating with ChatGPT. But even then just celebrating with ChatGPT was. I was taking talking, I guess. Well, I was talking about cheating it. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Sometimes you see a viral video and you don't feel like looking up the history.

[Greg Miller]

I don't have time to go read the article about this. Some dumb kid.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That is it for your wrong. That is it for this episode of kind of Funny Games Daily. That went way over time.

[Greg Miller]

We had a great time, though.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We had a good time, had some good conversations. And the good conversations are not going to stop here because right after this is gamescast where we're going to talk about a whole bunch of games that we're playing.

[Greg Miller]

That's right, the royal week.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Because I'm not going to be on it, but Alabaster Dawn Exitation.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, Alabaster. Here's what the run of show looks like. Alabaster dawn for me and Andy. Yes. Exit 8 as part of the sponsorship with me talking about that. I want to talk a little bit about income. Be inconbini. I'd like to talk a little bit about replaced if we need to. I am ready to talk about Lord of Hatred for Diablo if we need to. I'm ready to talk about Skate. I'm ready to go.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

If you have. If you need extra content, I can talk about the Invincible versus Story mode.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, I love that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh yeah. Okay, come on for a second. I don't have much to say about it, but okay, great.

[Greg Miller]

No, it's a fun little conversation about what we're all playing.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Played. This has been kind of funny. Games Daily if you love what we do, support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon or YouTube to get all of our shows ad free and get a daily exclusive show. Enjoy the games cast next and the stream after. But until next time, Game Daily.