Respawn Cancels Mysterious FPS Game - Kinda Funny Games Daily LIVE 03.07.25

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Kinda Funny Games Daily: Video Games News Podcast Episode: Respawn Cancels Mysterious FPS Game - Kinda Funny Games Daily LIVE 03.07.25
Release Date: March 7, 2025
Hosts: Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Tim Gettys, and Blessing Adeoye Jr.

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1. Respawn Cancels Mysterious FPS Game

Timestamp: [09:43] – [15:10]

Overview:
Respawn Entertainment, renowned for titles like Apex Legends and Titanfall, has abruptly canceled a secretive first-person shooter (FPS) project even before its official announcement. This cancellation marks Respawn’s second unannounced project termination within a year, following the scrapping of a Star Wars-themed FPS in January 2024.

Key Details:

• Project Background:
  Respawn had been expanding its IP incubation team, specifically seeking talent experienced in designing multiplayer FPS games. The canceled project remains unnamed, sparking curiosity and concern within the gaming community.

• Official Statement:
  Former executive assistant Emily Evans revealed on LinkedIn that the unannounced project, which she had been involved with for the past year, has been canceled.

  "The unannounced incubation project I was a part of for the last year has been canceled."
  – Emily Evans, Former Executive Assistant
  [09:52]

• Industry Impact:
  This move follows similar actions by EA, which had previously canceled a Star Wars FPS and shut down Ridgeline Games, the studio developing a single-player Battlefield campaign.

Discussion Highlights:

• Tim Gettys’ Insights:
  Tim emphasized that project cancellations are not uncommon in the industry and don’t necessarily indicate mismanagement by Respawn. He remarked:

  "I think Respawn are one of the few devs that have the luxury and... it's healthy."
  [13:08]

• Roger P.’s Perspective:
  Roger expressed optimism about Respawn’s future projects, noting their successful releases and strong financial performance:

  "They have Apex, they have Jedi, I know they have a new thing... I have full faith in this."
  [15:10]

• Community Sentiment:
  While some fans express worry about Respawn’s direction, the hosts agree that Respawn’s strategic cancellations allow them to focus on quality projects like Apex Legends and Jedi Survivor.

2. Former Xbox Boss Reflects on Console Wars

Timestamp: [18:11] – [22:57]

Overview:
Peter Moore, former Xbox executive, shared his thoughts on the evolution of console competition during an interview with Danny Pena. Moore reminisced about the early 2000s, describing how "console wars" fueled industry growth and public engagement.

Key Details:

• Early 2000s Console Wars:
  Moore highlighted how the rivalry between Xbox and PlayStation kept both brands in the spotlight, aiding the industry’s acceptance as a serious entertainment medium.

  "The early 2000s was a phenomenal platform for us to get off the back pages and get to the front pages..."
  – Peter Moore
  [19:33]

• PR Stunts and Marketing:
  He discussed memorable marketing tactics, such as Moore sporting tattoos of game logos like Halo 2 and GTA 4 during key announcements at events like E3.

  "He was notorious for appearing at shows like E3 with game tattoos... that was synonymous."
  – Roger P.
  [20:02]

• Current Industry Climate:
  Moore noted a shift in the gaming landscape, especially after Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard, reducing the "feistiness" traditionally seen in console rivalries.

  "This is bigger than an economic sense... it has lost a bit of a spiciness that the industry fed upon and grew upon."
  – Peter Moore
  [21:15]

Discussion Highlights:

• Tim Gettys’ Analysis:
  Tim interpreted Moore’s comments as a natural progression of the industry, suggesting that while console wars were beneficial in the past, the current environment requires a different approach.

  "Respawn are not strangers to that kind of concept... they're putting all their eggs in that basket."
  [16:13]

• Roger P.’s Take:
  Roger agreed, emphasizing the growth and increased revenue in the gaming sector compared to Moore’s era.

  "Video games make so much more money than they did even back then... GTA 5 is just on a different level."
  [23:00]

• Future of Xbox Consoles:
  The hosts debated whether Microsoft would continue producing hardware or pivot entirely to content delivery platforms like streaming services.

  "They focus on cloud streaming and everything. If they could just stop making consoles and everybody wouldn't be mad at us..."
  – Roger P.
  [25:12]

3. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 Remakes Announced

Timestamp: [27:27] – [41:21]

Overview:
Iron Galaxy is developing a combined remake of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4, slated for a July release. The remakes aim to preserve beloved levels, songs, skaters, and tricks while introducing significant changes to the career mode, potentially altering the gameplay experience.

Key Details:

• Remake Features:
  The remastered titles will retain classic elements but will modify THPS4’s career mode. Instead of an open-world approach, each level will present specific challenges to complete within two minutes.

  "Instead of... players were free to skate around, explore and collect money. Now, each level features a list of challenges to complete in a two-minute run."
  – Kinda Funny Hosts
  [29:23]

• Community Reaction:
  The announcement sparked intense reactions on forums and social media, with some fans lamenting the removal of the original career mode’s open exploration and narrative elements.

  "They won't be able to complete level challenges in that mode... this is really just a remake of THPS 3 with levels from THPS 4 added in as a bonus."
  – Hosts Discussing Player Feedback
  [31:59]

Discussion Highlights:

• Tim Gettys’ Perspective:
  Tim expressed a nuanced view, acknowledging fans’ frustrations but also supporting the creative direction, believing that the overhaul of the career mode could rejuvenate the franchise.

  "I don't think that's bad news at all though... I have full faith in this."
  [37:10]

• Roger P.’s Enthusiasm:
  Roger shared his excitement for experiencing the remakes, recognizing the potential for both preservation and innovation within the games.

  "I am excited for this. It's going to be awesome."
  [40:45]

• Future of the Franchise:
  The hosts speculated that successful remakes could pave the way for future titles, including the much-anticipated Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater remake.

  "If this game crushes and kills and as good as I hope that it is... I think that it all but guarantees a Thug remake."
  – Tim Gettys
  [49:40]

4. Bethesda Announces Upcoming Starfield Updates

Timestamp: [44:15] – [48:23]

Overview:
Bethesda Game Studios has hinted at significant updates for Starfield in 2025, including potential DLC releases and a complete edition aimed at revitalizing interest in the game following its rocky launch.

Key Details:

• Developer Statement:
  Responding to community demand, Bethesda announced:

  "We have a lot of exciting things planned for the game this year and we can't wait to talk about them when the time is right."
  – Bethesda Game Studios
  [45:05]

• Starfield DLC:
  The upcoming Starfield DLC, rumored to be named Starborn, is expected to bring new content and enhancements to the game.

  "Starborn DLC is coming out on PlayStation, right? That's the big news."
  – Tim Gettys
  [46:50]

• Potential Complete Edition:
  Discussions hinted at the possibility of a Starfield Complete Edition, bundling all existing and forthcoming content to attract new and returning players.

Discussion Highlights:

• Roger P.’s Insights:
  Roger emphasized the importance of timing and cross-platform availability for the DLC to ensure its success.

  "If we can get it... that would be very solid... Just to give people a reason to jump back in."
  [47:00]

• Tim Gettys’ Analysis:
  Tim drew parallels to other successful game relaunches, suggesting that strategic updates could lead to Starfield's resurgence.

  "I think there's still room for Starfield to have a third resurgence of like, people loving it."
  – Tim Gettys
  [48:23]

5. Robocop Rogue City Expands with Unfinished Business DLC

Timestamp: [53:03] – [58:14]

Overview:
Following the successful launch of Robocop Rogue City, Teyon is set to release a standalone expansion titled Robocop Rogue City Unfinished Business. This DLC introduces new missions, weapons, and the ability to play as Alex Murphy before his transformation into Robocop.

Key Details:

• Expansion Features:
  Players will navigate Omni Tower, now overtaken by elite mercenaries, utilizing new brutal finishing moves and accessing previously unexplored backstory elements.

  "Robocop will have access to new weapons, brutal finishing moves, and special missions..."
  – Alessio Palumbo, WCCFtech
  [53:03]

• Release Information:
  Scheduled for a summer release, Unfinished Business aims to build upon the base game's success by offering deeper narrative and enhanced gameplay mechanics.

Discussion Highlights:

• Kevin Coelho’s Excitement:
  Kevin shared his enthusiasm, mentioning multiple playthroughs of the original game and anticipation for the new content.

  "I'm excited for this... we ended up just playing it a bunch of times on stream."
  – Kevin Coelho
  [53:09]

• Roger P. and Tim Gettys’ Enthusiasm:
  Both hosts expressed eagerness to explore the new DLC, highlighting its potential to expand the Robocop universe.

  "This looks sick. I'm excited."
  – Roger P. & Tim Gettys
  [54:01]

6. Additional News and Announcements

Timestamp: [56:19] – [67:04]

Overview:
The episode also covered a range of other gaming news, including the return of the stealth game Sticks, announcements for Cthulhu-themed games, updates to Splinter Cell, new Nintendo online titles, and upcoming releases on platforms like Jackbox for smart TVs.

Key Highlights:

• Sticks Reimagined:
  Cyanide Studio unveiled a new Sticks game, a fantasy stealth adventure featuring the titular goblin.

  "It's a solid, like, fantasy stealth game... it's got cheeky humor."
  – Nick Scarpino
  [57:49]

• Cthulhu Games:
  Announcements revealed two new games inspired by H.P. Lovecraft’s Cthulhu, though hosts expressed mixed feelings about the name's pronunciation and branding.

  "We just don't like that mouth feel, though. Cthulhu."
  – Tim Gettys
  [65:39]

• Nintendo Online Updates:
  New titles like Mario's Picross and Donkey Kong for the Game Boy were announced for March 2025, with Roger humorously lamenting his nostalgia.

  "Donkey Kong 94, baby. One of the best Game Boy games of all time."
  – Tim Gettys
  [59:10]

• Jackbox Games for Smart TVs:
  Jackbox announced the launch of their games on smart TVs with a free version supported by ads and a future subscription model.

  "Just play some quip lash."
  – Tim Gettys
  [60:25]

• World Video Game Hall of Fame 2025:
  Finalists include iconic titles such as Age of Empires, Angry Birds, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Frogger, GoldenEye, Harvest Moon, Quake, NBA 2K, and Tamagotchi.

  "Everybody go vote for Golden Tea."
  – Nick Scarpino
  [63:45]

Community Engagement: Throughout the episode, the hosts interacted with Super Chats from listeners, addressing questions and comments related to the topics discussed, further enriching the conversation and providing diverse viewpoints.

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Conclusion:
In this episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily, the hosts tackled significant industry news, including Respawn Entertainment’s project cancellation, reflections on the legacy of console wars by Peter Moore, and the highly anticipated remakes of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4. Additionally, updates on Starfield, Robocop Rogue City expansions, and various other gaming announcements provided a comprehensive look at the current state and future directions of the gaming world. The discussion balanced critical analysis with enthusiasm, offering listeners both insights and entertainment.

Notable Quotes:

• "Your data is like gold to hackers. They'll sell it to the highest bidder. Are you protected?"
  – Greg Miller [00:30] (Skipped as part of advertisements)

• "The early 2000s was a phenomenal platform for us to get off the back pages and get to the front pages..."
  – Peter Moore [19:33]

• "This is really just a remake of THPS 3 with levels from THPS 4 added in as a bonus."
  – Hosts Discussing Player Feedback [31:59]

• "I have full faith in this. I think that this is going to be an unpopular opinion. Like I don't care. This is my favorite franchise and I'm happy with this..."
  – Tim Gettys [37:10]

• "Everybody go vote for Golden Tea."
  – Nick Scarpino [63:45]

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Note: Timestamps correspond to the podcast transcript and are provided to highlight where notable discussions and quotes occur within the episode.

Transcript

[Roger P.]

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[Roger P.]

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[Tim Gettys]

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[Greg Miller]

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[Roger P.]

Today's stories include respawn Cancels, a mysterious FPS game, former XBoss Xbox boss admits to egging on console wars, and our Tim's Tim Getty's Tony Hawk pro skater dreams ruined. We'll have all of this and more because this is kind of Funny Games Daily. Welcome to Kinda Funny Games Daily for March 7, 2025. I'm Roger P. I'm joined by the married one, Forbes. 30s. 30. 30. 30, 30, 30. Tim Gettys. How you doing?

[Tim Gettys]

Pleasure to be here with you today, Roger. This is a momentous occasion. You were hosting? I am co hosting. You prepped the show?

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Blessing is out. So the big boy pants on. I love it.

[Roger P.]

I'm excited, man.

[Tim Gettys]

Be a good one. It's actually going to be a great day. Great day. Just, you know, jumping ahead a little bit, Getting into the rig and roll. All right. Nuzlocke starts today. Nick's going on his journey. Some of the best kind of funny content of all times. Getting a sequel today. And it starts today. Everybody strapping. It is going to Be a journey we all want to be on. But before we even get to that, we have a game showdown. Before we even get to that, me and you are rocking back to back shows. We're going to flip seats.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

All right.

[Roger P.]

In the middle of games, who knows? Who knows? In between stories today we don't.

[Tim Gettys]

We're doing games daily right now. And then Gamescast, it's me and you and what do we gonna talk about? What we've been playing lightly. But it's Friday, baby. We're bringing that Friday energy. If y'all have any weird video game questions, get ready and super chat that made because me and Roger, we're getting weird with you.

[Roger P.]

We're getting freaky Friday. We're getting freak nasty in this. So if you have some super chats, you got some weird ones, let us know in the games guests and let us know today. You know what I mean? I know this is a buttoned up games games news program, but like, let's just get weird with it. Let's get weird with it. Greg's gone. Please.

[Tim Gettys]

The one that keeps everything buttoned.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, but here's the thing. Greg's. Greg's online, you know, I mean, we thought he was. He was shooting a movie, right? But I saw him responding to emails and shit, doing things like he could be watching it anytime. I really hope he could call in and I'm scared about that. I don't like that. I don't like that prospect. How you doing? How you feeling? You're drinking a latte today. That's exciting.

[Tim Gettys]

A latte? Yeah. Drinking a vanilla latte with just one pump of vanilla because their standards put in six pumps, which is absolutely insane. That's pure sugar.

[Roger P.]

No, we can't.

[Tim Gettys]

Want a little taste of the good stuff, you know? And I'm getting it. It's feeling good.

[Roger P.]

Just a little bit. Okay. I like that. I'm drinking the McCafe, the black coffee. I've been doing that recently where I just keep on edging myself. I gotta be honest. I go to. I go to the McDonald's drive thru. I just walk through and I just say, hey, one black coffee. One black coffee. That's it. And I see the McGriddle through the drive thru. I walk through the drive thru.

[Tim Gettys]

Do you really know?

[Roger P.]

I don't walk through my drive. I drive through the drive thru and then I look at the signs and have McGriddle. It's like, oh, you want this big, big McGriddle, you big fat boy.

[Tim Gettys]

You want this McGraw don't you want it?

[Roger P.]

Don't you want it? And I'm like, no, give me a black ice coffee.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

And I'm like, oh, shit. Okay. And I do it and I'm like, every day I just think about it and you know what they did recently. You know how John Cena was doing the ads for McDonald's?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

It went away right before elimination chamber. I think it's on purpose.

[Tim Gettys]

It must be.

[Roger P.]

I think it's on purpose. It's pretty good stuff. Remember, this is kind of funny Games daily. Each and every weekday we run you through the nerdy news you need to know about live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon or YouTube to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show for a chance to be a part of the show. Submit your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. And remember Freak nasty Fridays, everybody. Housekeeping for you. As we mentioned earlier, pack your bags, trainers, because we're heading to Johto. The next chapter of our Pokemon Nick Lock journey begins today. Join us after. After not not gamescast game showdown right after game showdown for the start of our soul. Silver Nick Lock with a special new main character. You might see him right there for video watchers and debuting our brand new trainer jackets available on kind of funny.com.

[Tim Gettys]

Store in red and blue version.

[Roger P.]

In red and blue versions. How cool is that? Yeah, if we can pull that up, Barrett. Because they're really cool. They're really cool looking. And I like when we get a little bit weird with the merch, right. When we do different things that aren't just regular T shirts. Right. Like this is. This is cool. It's very practical. It's a very high quality. I think Champions.

[Tim Gettys]

It is champion. Yeah.

[Roger P.]

It's really, really nice.

[Tim Gettys]

Look at. I'm wearing one with Nick. Nick's wearing one. Johnny Ace.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, Tim.

[Tim Gettys]

People wearing people with different people on the shirts.

[Nick Scarpino]

Different people on the shirts. I just want to get a prediction from you. I know who we like would like Nick to choose. I know our favorites of the starters. Who do you think he will choose?

[Tim Gettys]

I think he's going Totodile. Yeah. And I think he's naming it to the dial and it makes me very happy.

[Nick Scarpino]

I like that. I like that Totodile is the fucking dude.

[Tim Gettys]

He is.

[Nick Scarpino]

He's a guy being a dude. You know what I'm saying?

[Roger P.]

Just a Guy being a dude.

[Tim Gettys]

He's just a guy being a dude being an alligator.

[Roger P.]

Oh, I don't like him. He looks like. He looks like a Digimon. I told you this already. We talked about this. We had a conversation. We had a long conversation.

[Nick Scarpino]

And that's why he looks so cool. Because again, if he was a Digimon, you could see his evolution.

[Roger P.]

Were Digimons existed? Did they exist before them? Yes, like this. That game came out and the Digimons already existed.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

They knew what they were doing.

[Roger P.]

I rest my point.

[Tim Gettys]

Who's your favorite starter? Hard stop. All starters.

[Roger P.]

I don't know. I don't play these.

[Tim Gettys]

God, you're such a monster.

[Roger P.]

I played Arceus a little bit. I don't remember which ones those were.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Roger P.]

Was that the weed cat?

[Tim Gettys]

No, we. Cat was Scarlet and Violet.

[Roger P.]

Oh, I didn't play that one.

[Tim Gettys]

My girl Sprigatitz.

[Roger P.]

Whoa.

[Tim Gettys]

Sprigatitos are real. Damn.

[Roger P.]

Today after kfcd, you'll get gamescast. It's a. What you've been playing. It's a Freak Nasty Friday. The stream is the Pokemon Nuzlocke, of course. And of course, we have game showdown in between all of that. If you're a kind of funny member, today is you're gonna get your Greg way. And then it's Mike's turn. I don't know what he's gonna talk about. No information.

[Tim Gettys]

He's probably gonna talk about moving desks. Oh, yeah, because he moved everybody. I don't know if you've heard. I don't. I don't know.

[Nick Scarpino]

It's been a saga.

[Tim Gettys]

It's been a saga. Mike changed his desk. Didn't need to change his desk. He has a very, very flimsy, loose excuse for why he wanted to move his desk. And then, like, I don't want to get ahead of myself, because I'm sure this is going to end up being a big story at some point. God, what. What do we do here? Yeah, I literally just said this is gonna end up being a big story. Like, what the does that.

[Nick Scarpino]

I mean, we record a kind of funny podcast every week.

[Tim Gettys]

God, that is. It's ridiculous. But one of my favorite things happened yesterday where Mike moves. And of course, it's. There's always ulterior motive. There's always some other bigger plan I.

[Roger P.]

Always get roped into. It's about. Yeah, right. Like, it was. The original plan was that I was going to switch with him because the heater was under him. So I was over him. So I was like, okay, I'll take one for the team. And then he's just like, you know what? I'm not going to switch desk with you. I'm going to switch to another desk that is equal distance to a heater. So it doesn't solve his problem.

[Tim Gettys]

It doesn't solve his actual problem. So he moves the desk. And then after that, he's like, oh, I want to move these. These chairs. The chairs we use for the KF podcast. He's like, I want to move the chairs behind me. I want to. He has all these big plans, and I want.

[Nick Scarpino]

I want it to be a hangout spot.

[Tim Gettys]

My favorite thing is Nick. Eventually, like, comes Nick, oddly supportive of Mike always. And I'll never fully understand it. I love it. But a little understand. But what's so funny to me is, like, you know, Nick's like, yeah, just do this.

[Roger P.]

Just do this.

[Tim Gettys]

And you just go, what the. Are we giving him an apartment now?

[Roger P.]

And then. What did Nick say?

[Tim Gettys]

I don't even know. I was laughing.

[Roger P.]

He said. He said if he. Because he's sitting right by the bathrooms, he's like. Because he's sitting right next to the. He gets to do whatever he wants. And then Nick, of course, talked about him crowning in the morning.

[Tim Gettys]

All right.

[Nick Scarpino]

God, it was a lot.

[Roger P.]

And thank you so much to everybody for supporting this. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs and Delaney Twining for supporting this madness today. We're sponsored and brought to you by Monster Hunter now, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. It's time for some new. We have six stories today, a baker's dozen Story number one, respawn. Secret new FPS game has been canceled before even being announced. This from Callum Patterson at Dexter Toe. I wrote it, and I've been saying it as dextero for a very long time.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, I'm going to be real with you. Like, I've never put much thought into it, but I did. If I. If you asked me, hey, spell the website that stars with Dex. I would put a T after that.

[Roger P.]

Okay. Okay. So it's not just me.

[Nick Scarpino]

Dexter, you know, kind of messes Extero.

[Roger P.]

God, let's talk about Dexter. Soon. I'll have a lot of things say. Over the past few years, Respawn, best known for Apex Legends and Titanfall, has been hiring for a new IP incubation team with job openings explicitly asking candidates to have experience designing multiplayer FPS experiences But whatever they were working on has been canned, according to former executive assistant and production coordinator Emily Evans. Sharing the news on LinkedIn, Evans said she has she had been involved with the project for the past year before its unexpected shutdown. Quote, the unannounced incubation project I was a part of for the last year past year has been canceled. Evan said this isn't the first Respawn project to be cut before even making it to the official announcement. A first person shooter set in the Star wars universe also met the chopping block in January 2024 as part of layoffs at EA. Originally announced in 2022 and helmed by veteran developer Peter Hirschman, it had it had generated some buzz before EA Entertainment president Laura Miel confirmed its cancellation. EA has also also made changes to other studios. Ridgeline Games, which was leading development on a single player Battlefield campaign and was shut down. I also want to bring in a little bit from Jeff Grubb because I watched his game this morning and it was really good and he has a lot more information on this. But specifically he wanted to note that this was the team that was making the Star Wars FPS game. They canceled that game and then they were trying to make that and take some of those assets and take some of that, those ideas making it to its own ip. He doesn't know specifically what those that game was like with this game we're talking about right now, but it was canceled. And no, it is not Titanfall. No Titanfall thing, to his knowledge is being developed over at Respawn actively. What do you think about this? How are you feeling?

[Tim Gettys]

Here's the thing. The industry is in a very bad place. Having said that. Games get canceled, projects get canceled and on top of that, it's like ideas that aren't formally announced and talked about don't officially exist in the way of being canceled in a way that affects gamers. You know what I mean? This to me reads more like that than like a oh man, Respawn's fucked type situation. I think Respawn are one of the few devs that have the luxury and I think that they won't always, but they are in a position right now where they've put out multiple projects, they've released and shipped games that do well both critically and financially and that allows them to try different things. They also have Apex Legends, right? So I think that them trying things and then making the call early on that it's not working is healthy. But what's next? What are they actually working on? And At a certain point, if you're not shipping things, then they're going to be in the same position as anyone else. Because, I mean, do I need to bring up monolith and things like that? Like, that's kind of what happens. But I think that this news right now, this is more old school, normal game cancellation shit as opposed to like, oh man, they're fucking idiots at the.

[Roger P.]

Throwing things in the wall. They don't know what they're doing. Yeah, no, it's especially you mentioned Apex, but also Jedi. Right. Like, they have, like, they have the Jedi game, the third one is coming out. It's going to happen. Right. And that game's going to be extremely successful. Yeah. And I think the thing that really connected the dots for this story for me of like, oh, is this worrying to. Oh, I don't think this is as worrying is the Jeff Grubb statement of this was a Star wars thing that fell through, that didn't work out. Then they tried to make this into something else. And I feel like that rarely works. Right. Like, is trying to take a Star wars thing that is a Star wars thing. Right. And then make this into, okay, let's make it a new ip. I don't know.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, that's the thing is I bet that it happens more often than we think. Like, and I just don't know. This is so the scenes kind of how the sausage is made stuff that unless Jason Schreier writes a book about it, we don't really get to hear. I. I feel like every once in a while you kind of get a little bit more transparency about canceled projects or reworked projects. But back in the day, this happened a lot. Like, I mean, thinking about Capcom specifically, like Resident Evil 4 turned into kind of Devil May Cry and also in some ways Animusha. Like, projects that start as one IP project can turn into others that then turn into major franchises. Right. Apex Legends, actually with Respawn, like, I really wonder how Titanfall that was until it was called Apex Legends. And it is still in the universe. Like, but I feel like Respawn are not strangers to that kind of concept. But to your point about, like, the insights I think are important of combining what Jeff Grubb's saying with the actual story here. Because the story kind of implies that the Star wars game that hit the chopping block of January 2024 is different than this.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

But really it's kind of just an iteration of the same kind of trying to make the project work.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Which to me is further evidence that this isn't that horrible of news. Like, I think this is more just the way that things work with. With these games. Especially when you are talking about IP as big as Star wars and the kind of needs that have to be hit for that to make that all gel and work for the licensing.

[Roger P.]

Yeah. And I'm interested because like I. I would love if respond were to figure out another third pillar of their business. Right. I mean, I know that they're. They have Apex, they have Jedi. I know that Vince out there is making the Battlefield game, but he's also respawn and going back and forth potentially. I want them to have something else. Right. I would love for them to build that new thing. Apparently they are working on a new thing. That's what Jeff Grubb said that I forget what the. What the name of the developer is, but they have a team that they're working on a prototype. They are trying to do something else. But I think the worrying side would be if every single time they start something new which just keeps on getting canceled and they just go back to Apex Legends. Because again, as Jeff Grub was mentioning, like I think it was the investors call that they were. They had earlier this year where they were talking about, hey, Apex Legends 2 potentially, like, we're just going to make a new. We're just going to continue to, you know, update that. And that was something that was in the air, right, for a while where they were like, are we going to update that? Are we not going to. Is this going to get sunsetted over the. Over the course of the next five years? But you know, they're going full steam ahead with a potential Apex to update. Right. So they're putting all their eggs in that basket.

[Tim Gettys]

It's very interesting because from. I forget this was coming from, but it sounds like Apex Legends is starting to not do as well as it was doing in terms of player base and the money coming in. And with that, you got to do something, you got to shake it up. And I do think like adding a 2 to it, making it a new product, creating a new point of interest for people to come back to is the right move at some point in time in some industry. With where we're at now, it's crazy to think that we haven't got a live service game, get A two and have it work. Destiny. Destiny is probably the only example. But like, you know, Fortnite clearly just keeps working so it hasn't had to do that. Overwatch even I would say though, like is an example that is more similar to Apex. To me, of. I don't know that an Apex two is going to be as big of a hit as it kind of would need to be to justify separating the community of Apex.

[Roger P.]

Well, I think the idea wasn't to separate it. Right. It would just be like a 2.0, like, you know, update or whatever. Yeah, exactly the same thing. Yeah. Which is what kind of Rainbow six is doing with X. Rainbow Six, Siege X, where it's just going to be like, hey, it's a new beginning. But it's the same game.

[Tim Gettys]

I haven't even heard about that.

[Roger P.]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's. I think they announced it a few weeks ago. So that's something that they're working on of like, hey, this is the new entry. It's the same game, but it's a new entry. It's a new. It's a new thing, It's a new update. And similar to I guess Counter Strike. Right. With Counter Strike Go. And then they just made. I guess that is Counter Strike. But it's the same game. Right? It's literally.

[Tim Gettys]

It's literally the same exists. Like that's the type of thing, like that would be such a meme thing to say back in the day of like, that's like chess too.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, it's like Minecraft too.

[Tim Gettys]

Exactly.

[Roger P.]

But yeah, we'll see how that all goes.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm excited for respawn though, man. Like, they again are the one of the few devs out there that haven't missed. So I'm really excited to see what they are working on and whatever that happens. I mean, you saying like Jedi 3, it's like, obviously that does feel inevitable. But when. Yeah, you know, like, it's like, I don't think that's going to be any time.

[Roger P.]

Next generation.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, let's think about this, right? When Fallen Order Bear, I might need your help on this one.

[Nick Scarpino]

That was 2019. That was my first year.

[Tim Gettys]

Kind of funny that was 2019. And then Jedi Survivor was 2022.

[Nick Scarpino]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

2023, maybe.

[Nick Scarpino]

Yeah, that was April 2023.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, cool. So four years. Yeah. So 2027 is what we're looking at.

[Roger P.]

Beginning of the next generation, Right.

[Tim Gettys]

I still think it'll be on this gen, though.

[Roger P.]

Yeah. Yeah. But still the beginning of the next generation.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Well, I'm excited.

[Roger P.]

Interesting stuff. Well, talking really quick about console generations and everything. Peter Moore, former Xbox boss, talks console war and Xbox in 2025. I'm getting some information from Chris Scullion over at VGC in an interview on Danny Pena's YouTube channel, shout out the Homie More was asked about Xbox's current strategy of releasing its first party games on other Systems, most notably PS5. More, who joined Xbox in 2003 to help it compete with the PS2 and GameCube, then oversaw the launch of the Xbox 360 and said in that era, the concept of console wars was a good thing for the industry because it kept each side in the public eye. According to Moore, the mainstream press previously blamed, quote, unquote, blamed all of society's ills on video games, saying that, saying that, saying that they were, quote, a waste of time creating violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, all of that. And that, quote, the early 2000s was a phenomenal platform for us to get off the back pages and get to the front pages and to be taken seriously as an entertainment medium.

[Tim Gettys]

What great quotes there, dude. Yeah, just fucking dropping some bombs.

[Roger P.]

He's just having a good time.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Shout to Danny in Paris for getting. This is a big get here.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, this is a really good one. This is a really good one. More continues and says more. Sorry. Moore was notorious for appearing at shows like E3 with game tattoos, such as his Halo 2 tattoo used to announce its release date, and his GTA 4 tattoo used in an attempt to convince the public that GTA was now associated with the Xbox brand. It worked. It definitely worked. I remember those G4 clips were always circulating every single time. Talk about E3 would always be him with a tattoo. That's. That was like synonymous. Moore says these and other PR stunts were necessary at the time for helping to grow the industry. We needed to do a ton of missionary work in those days. And at the same time, we were young enough to have fun and do all the daft stuff that we did and all the stunts. I think the console wars that you're kind of alluding to were healthy for the industry. Look, I've said it before, certainly I did encourage the battle because I think gamers loved to see Xbox versus PlayStation. Maybe Nintendo as well. Just throw that in there, Peter. Maybe Nintendo as well. And then I think that, I think was a rising tide that lifted all ships. Today's situation, more stressed, is different. While Microsoft continues to make Xbox consoles, he thinks it would stop doing so and focus on end games if it could, but that there's still a public appetite for buying hardware. Quote, if Microsoft had the choice, would they make hardware? No, he explained, would they be delighted if they could be a multi hundred billion dollar entity delivering content directly to your Television to whatever monitor you choose to play on. You bet. You know the classic Netflix model. You just select who's playing this. 5,000 people playing this. I'm going to jump in right now. No latency, no lag you're in. And there doesn't need to be a box between you and your controller and the TV set. But still, you know, consoles are as we've seen particularly with Nintendo now people back off. People love their hardware. Moore added that he understands that Microsoft's intention is no longer to sorry. Is no longer to get involved in console wars. He says he feels some of the feistiness has gone as a result, quote, the acquisition of Activision Blizzard changed things. I think not. I think I know at Microsoft. And so this is not the old days of the console wars and punching each other and trying to steal customers and trying to get market share and build your attach rate. This is bigger than an economic sense. Has it lost a bit of a spiciness that the industry I think fed upon and grew upon? I think so, yeah. That is a fun little one.

[Tim Gettys]

That's a fun little. I used to work with Peter Moore's son. Weird.

[Roger P.]

What?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, he used to work at ign.

[Roger P.]

Oh, that's cool.

[Tim Gettys]

Cool stuff.

[Roger P.]

Did you ever talk about the tattoos?

[Tim Gettys]

We did actually. Yeah, he was on sales. But anyways, I love this. I think that this is a very, just accurate telling of how things are in war. Right. Things change, industries change. Video games make so much more money than they did even back then. Right. And they're talking about like the GTA rise up era. But I think a perfect example of how big video games are now compared to then is how absolutely ginormous Grand Theft Auto 3 by City and San Andreas were and how dwarfed they are now by GTA 5. Yeah, like we're just talking about different levels, different complete numbers that are just so many more zeros at the end of it that like you can't even fathom that back in the day. And yeah, his point about there was such negativity around video games that the more talking about the competition and just saying, hey, there's multiple options here, there is a battle here that did kind of keep everybody in the conversation except for Nintendo sometimes. They fought so hard though. They fought so hard. GameCube was amazing. Okay, man. Anyways, I, I think that, that this is a, I think very honest conversation and I think personally this is an accurate take on, on where things were and are. And I also don't think that he's saying like, oh Man, I wish it was like that still.

[Roger P.]

No, Yeah. I mean, that's just the way that the media worked back then, right? Like, I mean, the Internet was still rising up and you had to fight in the mainstream media, right? Like, you had to fight for literal, like, Channel 7 news sometimes. Like, I remember that. That was a big deal when I would. I would watch the news every single night with my mom and there was like one video game story a week, pretty much. And it was sometimes Xbox announcing something or PlayStation doing something, or GTA violence and fucking. What was that guy's name? Jack was Jack Trenan. Who was the guy that would be like, oh, video games are destroying the world. And he was.

[Tim Gettys]

He PlayStation.

[Roger P.]

Oh, fuck. It was another Jack. I think, whatever. It was one of those guys. But yeah, he's so right there. And it is interesting and I think it's very. He's very correct. Like, yeah, absolutely. Xbox. If they can wave a magic wand and be like, if we could just stop making consoles and everybody wouldn't be mad at us, I'm sure they would. I'm sure they would just stop making consoles. But, you know, you know, I don't.

[Tim Gettys]

Fully agree with that. From a different kind of perspective, though, like, Xbox makes hardware, even if it's not the number one. Like, you look at laptops, you look at computer, you look at all this stuff. It's like they still look at phones. Like, Microsoft hardware is not number one in any category that I can think of. Correct me if I'm wrong there. But they still make it because they still have the ability to. And I, I think it's still worth it for them to be able to have in store placement and like Windows Store or Microsoft Stores, whatever it is. Like, I think at the end of the day, they don't want to fully get out of this stuff. Like, if it was up to them, like, I mean, I think it is up to them, they could do that right now, you know?

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

And like, the whole gamers would get mad. Oh, man, that's so irrelevant. Like, yeah, it really is. Because, like, okay, gamers get mad that they're Xbox fanboys and then Xbox goes away. What's that matter?

[Roger P.]

Well, I think it's. I think it's less about like the gamer outrage on the Internet and it's just more of like the burnt goodwill that they've already created with generations of Xbox fans. Right. Like, I think if they could wave a magic wand and be like, that doesn't exist unless just release on everything. And it doesn't we don't have to incur the cost of creating hardware and R D and doing all of that.

[Tim Gettys]

But I still think that, like, the goodwill is the Xbox account. Right. Like, you still have your live. It's like Steam, like Steam doesn't. I mean, they do make hardware. But that's, I think, actually a perfect point of what I'm saying. It's like you have your library, you have your save files, you still get all the backwards compatibility with like up res and all that stuff, like just on other platforms, whether it's PC or console, if they want to play nice. But I just think that every move that Microsoft's made and continues to make, like, I think it points to, they do have value in it. It's just they're never going to win. They're never going to be number one in this. In the hardware.

[Roger P.]

Yeah. And that's why. Yeah. They focus on cloud streaming and everything.

[Tim Gettys]

Exactly.

[Roger P.]

Yeah. And yeah, this is a really good interview and I'm excited to listen to the entire thing. So shout out to Danny Pena and Paris over there for making this happen.

[Tim Gettys]

Very cool.

[Roger P.]

But we're going to get to story number three and this might break your heart, but before we do that, I'm going to tell you about the kind of funny membership. If you have the kind of funny membership, you can watch this podcast and so many other ones without any ads. But you don't have it. So here's a word from our sponsor.

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[Roger P.]

We are back with story number three plus four. He's fucking here. He's got it. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3. Four is making a big change to how THPS4 works. This is from Zach Zweizen at Kotaku. Is there a better way that I could say THPS4? I guess I just say THPS, right? Like there's no like.

[Nick Scarpino]

Or just say pro skater.

[Roger P.]

Just Pro Skater. Okay. Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

I say thps. I'm not a coward.

[Roger P.]

Really. Okay. I'm not gonna be a coward either. I'm gonna say thps.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, you can do whatever.

[Nick Scarpino]

Listen like thug.

[Roger P.]

If the.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, that's so funny that if the.

[Roger P.]

Tony Hawk guy is telling me to say thps, I'm gonna say thps is what?

[Tim Gettys]

Like that is ingrained in my DNA. Really?

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

We always just said pro skater growing up.

[Roger P.]

The thug thing, I played Tony Hawk's Underground all the time and I never called it thug.

[Tim Gettys]

Here's the thing. I think that I've learned this about myself over time. I am such a game acronym guy. Acronym guy. In general, when it comes to like music groups or like Andy, we always have the bit about slj Samuel L. Jackson. It's because I am. I was such a forum kid growing up. And so like I was. Was raised in the era of people talking about video games and you don't hear them talk about it. You know what I mean? We always talk about people not knowing how to pronounce Kakariko Village and Zelda just because they never said it. You just look at it.

[Nick Scarpino]

Right, Right.

[Tim Gettys]

But for me it was just like when people are talking about Tony Hogg, it'd be thps. Right.

[Roger P.]

So I think it's the. The connection.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

Well, THPS three plus four was officially announced earlier this week. And while it looks to be a Great remake of some popular PS2 era skateboarding games. One big change involving timed challenges in THPS4 might be a deal breaker for some players. Is it a deal breaker for Tim? Well, I'll let you know at the ending. He'll let you know at the ending. After some teases and rumors, THPS 3/4 was announced on March 4th. The game the game, like 2020 CHPS 1/2 is a full remake of two past games from the Tony Hawk franchise, specifically Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4. The new remake is being developed by Iron Galaxy and is set to launch in July. And while it will feature the old maps, songs, skaters and tricks fans remember from the classic games, there will be at least one big change involving THPS4's career mode. Kotaku was able to confirm with Activision that THPS3.4 will not include the original career mode seen in the OG version of THPS4 on the PS2. Instead, like in the first three games, each THPS4 level will feature a list of challenges to complete in a two minute run. This isn't how it worked in the original THPS4. That game let players skate around levels freely and find challenges to complete. While many of these challenges did have timers, between those challenges players were free to skate around, explore and collect money. When news of this first broke on the THPS subreddits, there was a lot.

[Tim Gettys]

Of they lost their minds. I don't think I've ever seen a subreddit fucking meltdown down. Really bad dude. It when you know bad news happens every day, right? And then and video game subreddits, when bad news for a video game happens, you get a post and then you get another post and you get another post and then somebody. The mods come in and be like stop posting. We're locking everything.

[Roger P.]

Here's the mega thread.

[Tim Gettys]

This one, everyone's just like no, all the post man, everybody.

[Roger P.]

We need to say some that's incredible. There will still be a free skate option in THPS4 levels, letting you freely skate around and explore, but you won't. You won't be able to complete level challenges in that mode. For some players, this is a deal breaker with some complaints stating that this game is really just a remake of THPS 3 with levels from THPS 4 added in as a bonus. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 Plus 4 launches July 11th on Xbox Game Pass, PlayStation Switch and PC. Now Tim, you saw the future. You knew this was going to happen to some degree. You talked about all the variables you talked about all the doctor Strange options, and this was one of them.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

How are you feeling? Is. Do you. Were you expecting this? Were you fully expecting this?

[Tim Gettys]

Well, there's so many options on the table, like, I was talking about before that, like, expecting. I mean, I guess if I had to put my. My chips in on one option, it would have been this. In fact, I thought there even might have been a chance that it was just three because of the difficulty of taking the career mode of four and applying it to the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 and 2 system.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

And so what we're getting here, I just want to start off and say I fully understand if people are upset about this and that people are upset about this because they want to remake a four. The people that love four. I mean, four is, depending on the day, I could say, my favorite of the games. Having said that, though I've said this a million times, I don't think that its career mode aged well. Like, I think it was very much the prototype to get to Underground. Yeah. And Underground had a fun story and, like. Like, it was engaging and goofy, and.

[Nick Scarpino]

There are actual characters. There was an actual, like, point to having a story mode.

[Tim Gettys]

It was. It was a story mode, and this was just. It wasn't a story mode. It was just, like, a different way to get to the goals. Having said that. Full of a lot of charm. There was, like, loose things. Like, you would set an elephant free in the zoo, and then the next level in London, the elephants there. Like, fun things would happen, and, like, there were. There's a lot of endearing little bits and pieces here that we're probably going to lose. Like, that is.

[Nick Scarpino]

Do you think so? Because, like, I could imagine, like, setting the. Something like, setting the elephant loose could still be a challenge. You're just not going up to people and, like. Like, talking to them.

[Tim Gettys]

Right.

[Nick Scarpino]

Like, I played that clip last week or two weeks ago of, like, drunk college dude, like, throwing up and, like, giving you a request or whatever. I think it's just, like, we get rid of that stuff, which I personally am kind of, like, bummed out about. I'm still gonna play this game, but it's more so just like, I would have loved to see, you know, that history brought back a little bit because of, you know, that was the stepping stone to Thug and all that stuff. And it would have been cool to see that adapted to today. But I get why they wouldn't necessarily want to do that.

[Tim Gettys]

I think that a lot of the stuff's still going to be here. I just think that some of the story charm of like ending up in the next level and like all that stuff, you miss that because it is the NPCs giving you two lines of dialogue that are stupid as hell. But like the stupid as hell is part of the like charm of it all. But then on top of that, like there was like there was like 190 goals per in Tony Hawk 4, which is like an insane amount. But a lot of them were just like different levels of high score, different levels of combo. Like it's a lot of rinse and repeat things. So I feel like it was kind of inflated in a way. But there was a. Something unique to four, at least up to this point in the franchise was there was pro goals where each one of the pros would have their own goals associated with them that were like a lot more difficult and very curated to the skaters. That's what I'm most afraid of, not making the jump here. And then there was also just the logistics of putting the 2 minute timer on the Tony Hawk 4 levels and the goals there. Not all the goals are going to translate to that because the levels are just too big. Like four levels are so much bigger than three. So it's going to be interesting. But I have full faith in this. Like this actually to me is not bad news at all. In fact, this is going to be an unpopular opinion. Like I don't care. This is my favorite franchise and I'm happy with this because like this to me I think is the right move for this. They've already proven. And the problem is Iron Galaxy is not vicarious vision. So I, we. I don't know if they got the stuff when it comes to what I'm about to say here, but Tony x1 and 2 remake, they added a bunch of goals to the levels. Like Tony Hawk 2 had way more goals originally than one did in its levels. And they added enough goals to one to have parody. And I loved what they added, loved it. I thought they really made a good use of exploring the levels. At the end of the day, I think the goal of how the goals were set out to be in four of like showing off all the levels, having the triggers for the destruction and all that stuff. I think they're going to just find different ways to make that happen that feel more modern, feel more snappy, I think at the end of the day. And God, I might be wrong and I know I'm being very hopeful here. I think I'm going to like this better at the end of the day.

[Greg Miller]

Wow.

[Tim Gettys]

I really do think that they are. They know what they're doing here and I think that they're going to pull it off and we're getting new levels as well. Anyone saying, oh, this feels more just like Tony Hawk 3 remake with four levels. Yeah. I don't think that's a bad thing at all though.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

Do you worry about them trying to pare down the four levels?

[Tim Gettys]

No, I don't.

[Roger P.]

Oh.

[Tim Gettys]

And on top of all that, if you just go to the very beginning of this trailer, Barrett, like we. This starts off with. This is one of the goals from college that are like the story based thing of skitching on the professor's car. Like, I think that they did that on purpose to show, hey, like the.

[Roger P.]

Fun stuff, like the cool, crazy stuff. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, are we going to be able to play tennis with your skateboard in the college level or all that other stuff that like, let's all be honest, sucked? I don't know. I don't know.

[Roger P.]

And childhood.

[Tim Gettys]

That's exactly. But like, yeah, Tony Hak 4 still there to go back and play if you wanted to. And I know it's not easily accessible and I, I wish it was, if you're cool. That's. That's true too. There was a. There's a lot of bad, poorly aged stuff in Tony.

[Roger P.]

I'm so interested in this. Right. Because like from a Tony Hawk fan, right. Would you. I know you're saying that this is a positive thing and you're excited about this and you think it's gonna be a better version of 4, even if it is a little bit more toned down from the original one. Do you think that just doing three by itself would have made fans happier.

[Tim Gettys]

And without doing this fans happier in.

[Roger P.]

The sense of like, hey, we're gonna just do three because we don't want to boil down what four is. And that also puts a lot of pressure on four to be like the most like, hey, we're gonna fucking.

[Tim Gettys]

They just wouldn't do it though.

[Roger P.]

They just wouldn't do it ever. They just wouldn' get to under.

[Tim Gettys]

It just wouldn't do well. Like there's. This is the right move.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Like that's just like, unfortunately, this is the right move. But I also. I fully understand people being mad that this isn't a 4 remake. And it's like, all right, it's. It's not. But what it is, I think is going to be really, really awesome.

[Nick Scarpino]

It's a reimagining it is.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. And it, it's funny too because like this isn't the first time they've done things like this and it's worked. Granted, talking about Neversoft here, but Tony Hawk's Underground 2 added classic mode, which added Tony Hawk's pro skater style goals to the Underground two level. So there was a story mode, but then there was also the Classic mode.

[Nick Scarpino]

I forgot about that.

[Tim Gettys]

The Classic mode. So yeah, maybe that's all this comes down to is I like that the two minute timer and like get everything done and figuring out how to speed run it all. And again, I don't think they're all going to be. I know they're not all going to be the same goals for four. They're going to make new ones that fit the level. This is going to be awesome.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

I think I'm more upset about like, you know, it was cool to see Doom Guy and the Revenant skater in there. I didn't realize it was going to be like paid dlc. I know in our times today it makes sense. But like, you know, there used to be skaters that you would unlock, secret skaters that you would unlock and stuff. And so I'm just like a little bummed out about that.

[Tim Gettys]

But I mean that was, I think like the biggest letdown of 1 and 2 remake for me was there wasn't any. There was, there was Officer Dick and there was the Skeleton Guy. Like there were secret skaters, but. And it was Jack Black for some reason. But there weren't Wolverine and Darth Maul and Spider man, things like that. Well, 1 and 2 Spider man specifically is what I was looking for. But more than that, because I understand they didn't have Spider Man. I was convinced I was going to be able to skate as Crash Bandicoot. It's Activision. Yeah. You know what I mean? This is when they were released. It like. Yeah, it made so much sense and it didn't happen and I was very let down. But the fact that they are, are clearly open and able to do this now in a different way. Like maybe we'll get more, but I would not hope for that. I would definitely not expect it.

[Roger P.]

I want Banjo Kazooie.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

Just in general. Yeah. I just wanna like as a general statement. But then also specifically in there too.

[Tim Gettys]

God, I'm so excited. And like I'm excited.

[Roger P.]

I'm excited to play it for the first time. I've never played three and four.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean three is magical. Yeah, it's magical. The levels are just. They're Unmatched, man. Like, they're so damn good. Four just has so much. Four has, like, three levels based around San Francisco.

[Roger P.]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

College is based on Berkeley.

[Roger P.]

Oh, that's cool.

[Tim Gettys]

There's a San Francisco level, and there's.

[Nick Scarpino]

Alcatraz kicks ass.

[Roger P.]

That's awesome.

[Tim Gettys]

Last thing I want to say about this. Yeah. For now, I will talk any chance I get. At the top of Tony Hawk, we can nix all the rest of the stories I. The platinum for Tony Hawk wanted to remake.

[Roger P.]

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, tell me. Tell me.

[Tim Gettys]

It's been eluding me.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

And I've given up and restarted Pope so many times over the last couple years, I've put over a hundred hours into this game across different platforms. On Steam, on Switch, on PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, and.

[Roger P.]

What?

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, yeah, because it came out before and then whatever. And God, I made such a fatal mistake. I transferred my save over, and I shouldn't have done that, because you can't. I'll just. When I eventually do get this platinum, I'm only gonna get one. I'm not gonna get two. No. Taking that back.

[Roger P.]

What is the platinum?

[Tim Gettys]

So here's the problem. There's a lot of incredibly difficult challenges. The. The Hard Get. Theirs is, like, one of the hardest gaming accomplishments I've ever made in my life, which is every level has an insane combo that, like, takes you around the entire level. You have to do it with no mods or anything. And I've done it for every freaking level. Got that trophy. The last trophy, though, is you have to get to level 100 with experience points, and the system is broken. And I have done pretty much everything in this video game time and time again. Beat the game with so many different characters. 100%. And I'm level now 94 out of 100. All right. Three days ago, I was 92.

[Roger P.]

Whoa. Jesus.

[Tim Gettys]

I am running out of things to get the experience that fast, though.

[Roger P.]

What are you doing? You're just grinding the same levels over and over?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, exactly. Like, right now, it's. I still have a bunch of characters that I haven't 100% it with. And, like, that gives you some experience points. So I've been doing that, like, just literally 100 percenting it with each character.

[Roger P.]

What was the breakthrough that you thought you had the other day? Because you were walking out of work at, like, 3pm and you're like, I got to go home because someone told me there's a way to cheese this maybe.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. And it.

[Roger P.]

What was it?

[Tim Gettys]

So I was saying this a couple days ago. That. There, there. There is a. There's a cheese method of. You can go to the Philadelphia level. You put turn on the game mods, do a couple nine hundreds grind a couple times, and that kind of like checklists all of the end of run bonus points. So you get. If you do everything right, you get about 300 experience in like 15 seconds. And then you can end, run, restart, run, and just let it load and just do it over and over and over. So you get 300 experience every time you do that. And per level, I think it's about 30,000 experience. This is going to take a long time, Raj, and I don't want to fucking do that. I really don't want to do that. That doesn't sound fun to me. And it's.

[Nick Scarpino]

But is what you're doing right now?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I mean, still play, dude, play.

[Roger P.]

Like, are you watching things while you're, like, playing?

[Tim Gettys]

I like the music and stuff, you know, I mean, it's like there's such an experience to it that I'm like, I just. I enjoy playing the game so much. I don't enjoy the cheesy. You know, what's the worst grind?

[Nick Scarpino]

This or Pokemon Go.

[Tim Gettys]

Ooh, Pokemon Go monetizes it.

[Roger P.]

It's like, okay, that's up.

[Tim Gettys]

So definitely that. But. But with this, I got. I'm going so long. I love it, everybody.

[Roger P.]

But the next story is about Starfield. Greg's not here.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, you're right, you're right. There was a way that you could use PlayStation Cloud. What's it called? Fucking play. How do you.

[Roger P.]

PS Plus.

[Tim Gettys]

No, but that portal. Yeah, but what's the system? What's the place? Remote play. That's what it is. Use remote play on your PC and then you can kind of like trick it into doing turbo buttons, and you can like have macro controls, and then you essentially just record your. Your inputs and then just like have it just go for days and then it'll be done. And I'm like, it. I don't care. I have no shame with that. Yeah, like, this is. But there was an update a couple years ago that like, nerfed that on PS5. So I'm like, well, I'm just fucked. And then a couple days ago, I saw it. It wasn't a new thing, but I. For the first time, because I've been googling my little ass off trying to figure this out, and someone's like, oh, if you do this, it'll work. And it just didn't work.

[Roger P.]

So fucking Reddit.

[Tim Gettys]

Anyway, if anybody has any advice for me, it's positive, please let me know.

[Roger P.]

And specifically about Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 or 2, story number four, Bethesda says Xbox's Starfield is about to have a big 2025 with new updates. Is the Starborn DLC coming out? This is for Brendan Lowery from Windows Central. Now, it's been quite a long time since we've heard anything new about Bethesda's Game Studios 2023 Space Exploration RPG Starfield. But now the developer has finally given players of the Xbox and PC exclusive an update and it sounds like some big things are coming later this year. Responding to a fan asking Bethesda to communicate its plans for future. I'm sorry, that's just a funny sentence to me. Responding to a fan asking Bethesda to communicate its plans for future content releases, the studio took to social media to fill the community in. Quote, we know you're eager for an update and we truly appreciate your passion for Starfield. The team has been working hard, has been hard at work and while we're not ready to share specific details just yet, we have a lot of exciting things planned for the game this year and we can't wait to talk about them about. Talk about when the time is right. The developer wrote a quote, we're always listening and taking your feedback to heart. Thanks for being a part of this journey with us. It added and it goes on to talk about the other updates that happened earlier this year and the DLC that came out Shattered Space, and it's pretty generally negative received on Steam, but people are talking about the DLC, the Starboard DLC. This is coming. This is coming on PlayStation, right?

[Tim Gettys]

That's the, that's the big news that.

[Roger P.]

Has to be right? So it has to be the big thing with, with the new dlc, right? Like, I wonder when that's announced. Is that announced at Xbox's June and you know, showcase?

[Tim Gettys]

Well, look, I mean, God, I feel like we've had variations on this conversation a million times, but they keep adding just little bits and pieces here. And recently Xbox has said you will start to see PlayStation logos on their trailers. And I think that that is the ripping the millionth band aid off. It's a lot of bandaids that the next Xbox showcase is. It's going to be talking about PlayStation games coming to PlayStation, right? It's going to function way more like a Ubisoft showcase. So just like here's the game and here's the consoles and we're not going to be KG and weird. And you have to go to the PlayStation blog to find out it's coming out there. So yeah, I do imagine that will be a Xbox showcase. Announcements and tying it with the new DLCs. Very smart. Right. I feel like that would be the best case scenario for them is, hey, don PlayStation Now. And there's a reason for Xbox and PC gamers to jump back in. Cool.

[Roger P.]

Especially if this. I don't know what the future plans are for Starfield. This in my mind would be probably the last big DLC of Starfield. Maybe there is another one in the future. But I think a complete edition for Starfield just sings really well. Right. Just being like, hey, here it is. Here's the full game. Here's everything that we have here. Complete edition on PlayStation, on Steam now. 70, 80 bucks, whatever. It is just getting people because like, Starfield has had such a rough launch. Right. And then people got into it. It's like, okay, it's good. And then the DLC didn't work too well. I think there's still room for Starfield to have a third resurgence of like, people loving it.

[Tim Gettys]

Sure.

[Roger P.]

I think it just needs the timing of it. Not just on PlayStation but like everywhere else.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

Coming back to it, I just don't.

[Tim Gettys]

Know that we're there yet for a complete edition. Right. Like, isn't there?

[Roger P.]

I don't know how many DLCs there are. Chitchat, correct me, everyone let me know.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm pretty sure that there's supposed to be two, but we had one. Yeah. So maybe the next one. Like, maybe that would be it, but that. I feel like there's more in Starfield.

[Roger P.]

Insider information.

[Tim Gettys]

No, no, it's just like. Just thinking about it, feeling it.

[Roger P.]

Just a vibe. We scan this section.

[Nick Scarpino]

Sorry. Always scan this. I don't know what the that was.

[Roger P.]

But that was Mr. Starfield. That was Mr. Starfield. Before he gets number five. Do we have any super chats?

[Tim Gettys]

We do have some super chats. Let's see. All right, cool. We got Snug saying Rogers.

[Roger P.]

Oh, geez.

[Tim Gettys]

Hold on. I. Here's the thing. I think some of these super chats I'm gonna keep for the games cast.

[Roger P.]

Okay. I like that. I like that. I like that.

[Tim Gettys]

Let me. Let me see if we have any that are relevant to this show. What a statement. You know what I mean? Volkdasher says, tim, just rip the band aid off. Tell me straight. Does this mean no hope for a thug remake? I think this is the most hope for a thug remake.

[Roger P.]

Yeah. Because they're not gonna half ass it. They're gonna be like, if we're doing this, we're doing I I True.

[Tim Gettys]

And I've been saying this for years. I, I think that if three and four does well, which thinking about how much hype is around 3 and 4 right now, that definitely shot themselves in the foot with this. Like, people are very upset and very, very bad. So I do they. A lot of people are like, I'm not buying this game anymore because of this. And I believe them. But I don't think that's going to get in the way of this game being a success. And also it's on game pass. So if this game crushes and kills and as good as I hope that it is, I think that it all but guarantees a Thug remake. This, the franchise does well and it's good. It's amazing. So if they, if they find the wins and the winds are there, I think Thug remake is happening. I'm excited and I think that they're going to do it right. I think that it's going to be way more of a reimagining or there's another side to this too. I could also see them doing a. And there's a lot of questions about Bam Margera like that. That definitely is a factor that needs to be brought up even in Thug 1. But there is an option for them to just do a Thug one and two and it's a remaster. We're not touching the game. Oh. We are just doing the. I don't think it was up res type thing. It would make so many people happy though. Just. I'm just saying that is an option that if they see the feedback to this and they're like, guys, it ain't worth it.

[Roger P.]

Oh, okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Gotcha.

[Roger P.]

If people are so mad about this and then. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like you're going down the path of making remakes. I don't think you can step back unless you were to be like, hey, we're doing this because it's gonna take us so long to make another one. So here it is in the meantime. But I, I don't know, I feel like that would just get people. It would be a little excited. But it would also be like, what? What? This is my favorite one. These are my ones.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, these are the ones that I played. But then if they're, if, hey, it's just them. But they look prettier and I could actually play them and they didn't it up. Because the thing is.

[Roger P.]

About Robot. We're fine.

[Tim Gettys]

Tony Hockey is this. Does it feel right? And when they remake the games, they don't feel right. It sucks. When they make new games like Project 8 and it doesn't feel right. It sucks. Doug. One and two feel perfect. Tony Ox Pro Skater. One and two feel perfect. They don't need to do much to thug one for it to just still be great. I do think, though, that starting from the ground up, telling a new version of the same story is way more ambitious and way more exciting to me.

[Roger P.]

Oh, so you're saying they remaster and then they fully just do a new remake or a new Tony Hawk?

[Tim Gettys]

I think it's going to be one or the other, but both are. I think both are viable options.

[Roger P.]

Interesting story number five. I don't think Nick is here, but I was. I was messaging him, but either way, this is a. Oh, he is here. Okay, if we. If you can. If we can get him here, because I want to show him this trailer really quick, but I will read the article here. This is RoboCop Styx and Cthulhu announcements headline Nacon Connect. This from Alessio Palumbo at WCCFtech. Following the success of Robocop Rogue City, which was the publisher's biggest launch, Teyon is back with a standalone expansion titled Robocop Rogue City Unfinished Business. Due to launch this summer, it will task players to reach the top of Omni Tower. Now overrun by elite mercenaries. Robocop will have access to new weapons, brutal finishing moves, and special missions that will take players through intense flashbacks and offer the chance to play as Alex Murphy prior to the incident, the accident for the first time in a video game. Nick, are you excited to watch this Robocop trailer for this standalone expansion?

[Kevin Coelho]

I'm excited for this. As you know, I played three hours of the first of the RoboCop game four times in a row.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Kevin Coelho]

So I'm excited. Yeah, we ended up just playing it a bunch of times on stream, but I don't think I ever beat it. So I'm excited for this.

[Roger P.]

Yes, Roger, yes.

[Kevin Coelho]

Trivia for you. Oh, who played Robocop in the movie Robocop?

[Roger P.]

I don't know. I just watched that clip of him getting the Oreos. He's like, robocop want Oreos? I watched that clip a lot, but I don't know the guy. I don't know the guy.

[Tim Gettys]

Peter Weller.

[Kevin Coelho]

Peter Weller is correct.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't know who Peter Weller is. I just know it's the name.

[Kevin Coelho]

He's only really been a Robocop and a lot of episodes of psych as the Yin and Yang Killer. Spoilers.

[Roger P.]

Let's watch this trailer really quick. I think it's only a minute.

[Tim Gettys]

Yes. There were too many. And their weapons. So many good officers.

[Roger P.]

We are the cops. All the. The Bible should be afraid of us.

[Greg Miller]

Cops shouldn't be feared. What do you want us to be? Judges? Executioners?

[Tim Gettys]

What do you think, Murphy? Surrender or their weakness? Little bit trouble.

[Roger P.]

Stash. Well, Jesus, you're going down. This looks sick.

[Tim Gettys]

Trouble, then.

[Kevin Coelho]

Unfinished business.

[Roger P.]

It's like Dread.

[Kevin Coelho]

It does look like Dread. I mean, obviously the. Even the tower itself looks like the design from dread3d, which actually, I think it just popped on Netflix. I want to say I've never seen it. Oh, it's really great.

[Roger P.]

I'm excited.

[Kevin Coelho]

It's a ride.

[Tim Gettys]

How many RoboCop movies are there?

[Kevin Coelho]

Quite a few.

[Tim Gettys]

Really?

[Kevin Coelho]

Yeah, they made. They started doing like the straight to video.

[Tim Gettys]

No way.

[Kevin Coelho]

I think I want to say there's minimum three.

[Tim Gettys]

I would have thought there was two. I think there's four because it's RoboCop.

[Kevin Coelho]

RoboCop 2, which got theatrically released, but they didn't get Verhoeven back for it.

[Tim Gettys]

Three in a reboot, says Zach.

[Kevin Coelho]

Yeah. And then they had. They had one where he gets a jet pack and fights like a samurai.

[Roger P.]

I've seen clips of that. Yeah, it's not good.

[Tim Gettys]

Sounds awesome.

[Kevin Coelho]

The only robocop that's really robocop1. Robocop2 are. Are legit good. Robocop1's amazing. Robocop2 starts. The threads start to come undone and then by the third one, you're like, we didn't.

[Tim Gettys]

What are we doing for this?

[Roger P.]

I watched the remake.

[Kevin Coelho]

The remake?

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Kevin Coelho]

Oh, the one with Joel Kinnaman. Yeah, it's fine.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, it's very fine. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm only gonna watch the remake and that's it. Thank you, Nick.

[Kevin Coelho]

All right, Roger, I'm gonna send you something to plan the show. Afterward, when I get back to my desk, I'm going to send you a clip to play. It is a robocop themed dance song that I'd like you to play for Tim.

[Roger P.]

Okay.

[Kevin Coelho]

So everyone can dance to it.

[Roger P.]

Okay. So send it to Barrett. It's in control. And then we'll play.

[Kevin Coelho]

I'm sending it to you.

[Roger P.]

Okay.

[Kevin Coelho]

It's up to you to disseminate that.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Kevin Coelho]

How you see things.

[Roger P.]

Thank you. Thank you so much, Nick. Thank you so much, Nick. Nick Lock today, everybody.

[Tim Gettys]

Nick Lock.

[Roger P.]

Everything and one more trailer really quick. We don't have to, like, play the music on this or anything, but I just want to talk about it because we don't really get to talk about this guy. It's Sticks. Sticks is back.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't know who Sticks is.

[Roger P.]

Ah, man. You don't know Sticks? Come on. You don't know, bro. Sticks is back.

[Nick Scarpino]

I with Sticks back, dude.

[Roger P.]

This showcase featured another return. The sneaky goblin Sticks.

[Tim Gettys]

You're right, dude. Welcome back. Stick. Sticks.

[Roger P.]

Once again. Developed by Cyanide Studio, the game will be March, fall of 20.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't know if the chat's in on the Raj.

[Roger P.]

I. I with sticks.

[Tim Gettys]

Sticks.

[Roger P.]

Not really, but I with sticks.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, now you do.

[Roger P.]

So here's my thing about sticks, right? Every single. Every four months or so, I go. I do the same Google search. I go on Google and I type games. Like splinter cell 2025, Reddit. That's exactly what I type in. And it's a thread of people being like, oh, just play the old Splinter Cell games, Hit Man. It's like this. None of these games. And one person. Always one person with, like, three upvotes sticks. And I'm like, okay, let me download Sticks. I download Sticks. It's not. It's not what I want. It's a goblin. He's running around. He's like, ah, he's got people. It' cool game, but it's just cool that Sticks is back. And I just want to put that out there because maybe this is the one. Maybe this is the one that gets me.

[Nick Scarpino]

It's a solid, like, fantasy stealth game. You know, it's got cheeky humor. It always references other, like, stealth sim games and stuff. I remember playing whatever the last one was at ign and it was like, I never had the feeling to go back to the need to go back to it, but when I played it, I was like, yeah, that's good.

[Roger P.]

Look at them.

[Tim Gettys]

This is definitely one of the most Am I in a Greg Miller's different universe?

[Roger P.]

Things like there's When I tell. Could you believe this is the third Sticks game?

[Tim Gettys]

There's two other sticks of Greed. Yeah, it's back.

[Roger P.]

Master of stealth is back. Yeah, it's the big three right there. There's. There's Hitman, there's Sam Fisher, and then there's Sticks. Is his name Sticks, though? Let me just triple check. Yeah, the sneaky Goblin Sticks.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Okay.

[Roger P.]

That's pretty cool.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, I'm very happy for you.

[Roger P.]

And then they also announced two Cthulhu games, but Like, I don't understand what's going on there. Because, like, is it Cthulhu franchise?

[Tim Gettys]

It's like, you know, recently I've been, like, airing a lot of grievances. Obviously time zones, obviously inflation. I don't fuck with it. The way Cthulhu spelled.

[Roger P.]

Oh, interesting.

[Tim Gettys]

Just. It bothers me. Yeah, I get it. It's accurate. It's right.

[Roger P.]

Little pretentious. You know what I mean? A little up its own ass. I don't like it too. I agree with you. So, yeah, there's two Cthulhu games out there, everybody. But, man, those are big problems. Sticks is so small. Wait, no, wait. Sticks is such a big game. But he's so small. But if I want something smaller than Stick, where would I go?

[Tim Gettys]

You go to our last news story. The Wii, the E. News Channel. We can get all the small news you need to know about.

[Roger P.]

It's we News time. Everybody talking about Nintendo or Nintendo vibes. New Nintendo online Games for March 2025 include Mario's Picross and Donkey Kong for the game boy.

[Tim Gettys]

Donkey Kong 94, baby. One of the best Game Boy games of all freaking time.

[Roger P.]

I'm sure it's great, but I want the other one. Is it a Sticks like, no, but.

[Tim Gettys]

It'S a Mario versus Donkey Kong.

[Roger P.]

Oh, okay. I got. I got my fill. I was like, that ruined my franchise for me.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay?

[Roger P.]

I like that game. And I was like, I played the new one. I was like, ah, my childhood's ruined. It's over now.

[Tim Gettys]

It's over.

[Roger P.]

This one's a fun one, which I'm very excited about. Jackbox Box games are coming to smart TVs spring this summer, this year for free with ads. That's really cool.

[Tim Gettys]

That is really freaking cool. Really smart Jackbox is so awesome. And when you can get a group of people, like, together having fun, it's great.

[Roger P.]

Great.

[Tim Gettys]

It runs its course, eventually hits the point where enough people have done enough time.

[Roger P.]

But the cool thing about this is that the way that they're building it out, or at least it's very, like, an early thing of, like, hey, we're gonna put it on beta this spring. But the idea is to have, like, a few of their games out there, right? And it's connected to, like, the cloud, like the Amazon, not Luna, but it's like the Luna adjacent thing for free with ads. And then eventually they will have, like, a subscription service where you can get them all and you can play all their games on the thing. So honestly, that's pretty solid. I think. I Always thought that the idea of, like, having, like, the releases that you have to spend money for, kind of like not the move for Jackbox. Yeah, you gotta just have give it to as many. I want my mom to be able to, like, boot up jackbox on her TV and play it or whatever.

[Tim Gettys]

Just play some quip Lash.

[Roger P.]

Yeah, dude, she would freak out. March 2025. Prime gaming freebies include Saints Row, the third remastered Mafia 2 Definitive Edition. Crime boss Rockay City. Just a little hint right here. Another one, Legacy of Kane, Defiance, which I just bought. It was only $2, so I'm not mad about it, but still, I just want to put it out there. I bought Legacy of Kane, Defiance. It's free now.

[Tim Gettys]

Barrett Courtney added a note in the Google Doc. Just saying. Why?

[Roger P.]

Because I played the Legacy, the. The. The Soul Reaver games, the Remasters. I played a little bit of that. I was texting Tam and I was like, oh, my God, these games are cool. Stop playing those games. You know those old games, right? But they're cool.

[Nick Scarpino]

They're cool.

[Roger P.]

They're cool. And then. But then I remember Legacy of Came. Defiance. If we can get the box art for Legacy of Kane defined. Defiance, the coolest box art of all time. Of any video game. It is the most. Dudes rock. The boys are back. Legacy of Kane, Defiance. Okay, cool.

[Greg Miller]

Sick.

[Roger P.]

Think about it. Think about it. Close your eyes.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm trying to think about it. Is it him?

[Roger P.]

He's all white. But it's. It's Soul Reaver and it's Kane. In one game. In one poster. Think about the poster. Think about what that would look like. It's cooler than what you're imagining.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I'm. I'm really. I must have seen this before. Damn. Kevin's hair is.

[Roger P.]

Kevin's hair is beautiful.

[Tim Gettys]

Curious.

[Roger P.]

There it is. Look how cool. Oh, that's pretty. Pretty sick.

[Tim Gettys]

He's like this before dude, but. What's his name? Razel, I think the coolest video game character design I've ever seen. Yeah. Like, if I could just look like that guy, I would.

[Roger P.]

You can. Halloween.

[Tim Gettys]

I just want it every day. Give me a tattered cape. You know what I mean?

[Roger P.]

But he's kind of nasty, though. Do you know anything about his backstory?

[Tim Gettys]

I don't.

[Roger P.]

He got his wings ripped off, and he kind of has like. Like the flappy wings without anything.

[Tim Gettys]

That's why he has to wear a little cape thing.

[Roger P.]

I think it is. That is the wings that are ripped off. Like, that's the cape. This is wings. Yes. The bones.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh no.

[Roger P.]

For Polygon, Spelunky 2 has gotten Shadow dropped on PS5 and now runs at 120fps.

[Tim Gettys]

What?

[Roger P.]

And it's freedom.

[Tim Gettys]

I think like. Like that to me doesn't comprehend.

[Roger P.]

Like that's cool.

[Tim Gettys]

120 FPS in a side scroller. Like yeah.

[Roger P.]

I think didn't. What's it called, Signer Wild Hearts also update with 120fps or something crazy like that.

[Nick Scarpino]

So that seems more like a game like visually, I don't know. Could benefit from that. I don't know. 120 seems excessive for anything that's not a first person shooter.

[Roger P.]

You guys need to open your eyes. That's cool. I just.

[Tim Gettys]

I wonder like I'm playing Mario World at 120 frames per second. Like I don't know.

[Roger P.]

I don't know that it would Nintendo. You would be way better at the game. You know what I mean? Frames win games.

[Tim Gettys]

It would be so good games. You're right about that.

[Roger P.]

And it's a free upgrade for PS4 owners. That's awesome. And one last thing really quick, which is a weird one from ap. The finalists for the World Video Game hall of Fame 2025. Inductees include age of Empires, Angry Birds, Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare Defender, Frogger, GoldenEye, Golden Tree, Harvest Moon, Mattel Football, Quake Week, NBA 2K and Tamagotchi.

[Tim Gettys]

Which yeah, I hope. But also you said Golden Tree when I said it's really funny. But it's Golden Tea. It's the. The golf game of the arcades.

[Roger P.]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Nick Scarpino]

I thought the Angry Birds.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

Golden Tea needs to be the inductee. Yeah.

[Roger P.]

The three games that receive the most public votes count as one ballot in the final tally. Public voting closes March 13th. So that is the end of. We knew.

[Nick Scarpino]

Everybody go vote for gold Golden Tea.

[Tim Gettys]

Golden Tea, baby.

[Roger P.]

Right in Golden Tree. Right.

[Tim Gettys]

And one time. We've told the story before, but I think it was Summer Game Fest. Me, Andy and Greg were in an Uber on the way and our Uber driver was a professional Golden Tea player. Oh, retired.

[Roger P.]

How'd you get that information? You just said you work in games.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, like why are you here? Oh, a video game event. He's like, well, back in my day.

[Roger P.]

Oh, and you're like strapped in and.

[Tim Gettys]

Like he starts going down this hole. He would travel to different bars and like compete in Golden Tea, that crazy stuff.

[Roger P.]

But Katie G. Writes in. Oh, it's a good psa. Not a year round, but a good psa. San Francisco clocks go forward One hour this weekend and won't in the UK and elsewhere until the end of the month. So the next few weeks of KFGD will be at 5pm GMT.

[Tim Gettys]

So stupid.

[Roger P.]

We gotta.

[Nick Scarpino]

You know what? We get more sunlight starting Sunday.

[Roger P.]

I hate that. Keep me in the dark.

[Nick Scarpino]

You constantly complain about how you're never in the sunlight.

[Roger P.]

Well, I don't want any. Yeah, I don't want any sunlight because I don't get sunlight. You know What I mean? Mr. Hawks wanted to. Don't lick me.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you.

[Roger P.]

This is a great one, by the way.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Roger P.]

No, no, no, no. This. This. This. Not this episode. But. But this specific. Write it. Nick said that. Nick said that Peter Weller was in, quote, multiple episodes of Psych as the Yin and Yay Killer. This is not a correct statement as Peter Weller was only in one episode of Psych and he played Mr. Yin and not the Yin Killer.

[Tim Gettys]

Wait, so his not related to the Yin Yang Killer? That is actually amazing.

[Roger P.]

That actually might be the best you're.

[Tim Gettys]

Wrong that we've ever gotten with me about Psych. Oh, God.

[Roger P.]

And then Tundra Boy says, invented by Lovecraft In 1928, the name Cthulhu was probably chosen to echo the word. I don't. I don't know. We're just saying. It just doesn't. We don't like the sound of it. We don't like the. Like the way it's written.

[Nick Scarpino]

We just don't like that good mouth feel, though. Cthulhu.

[Roger P.]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, he's right.

[Roger P.]

Nick did send me the. The Le Boys RoboCop sound song that we will listen to in the games cast. I'll send that over to you, Barrett. Any other super chats? Really?

[Tim Gettys]

The last super chat relevant to this show. We'll get to the rest. We'll get to the rest of them. In the. In the games cast, Dexter toes comes from Jen7Dexer. Toe is actually pronounced Deserto.

[Roger P.]

No shot.

[Tim Gettys]

Does Deserto D E S E R T O like the X is a is a S sound. All right, all right, all right.

[Roger P.]

I don't know if I like it. Cthulhu and Deserto.

[Tim Gettys]

You gotta deal with it though, man. I don't know what to tell you.

[Roger P.]

Well, this has been kind of funny Games Daily where each and every weekday we run you through the nerdy news you need to know about live on YouTube and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon and YouTube to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live, and get a daily exclusive show. And then gamescast is going to be us again right after this. So strap in if you like this energy. Strap in back to back.

[Tim Gettys]

Get your back video game questions ready for us.

[Roger P.]

It's Freaky Friday, everybody. It's Freaky Friday. Of course, we have the game showdown and then we also have the Nick Lock stream. So if you're listening to the this, it's probably still live. Go listen.

[Nick Scarpino]

Go watch exclusively on Twitch.

[Roger P.]

Yes, that's a great cause.

[Tim Gettys]

Then later, go on YouTube as a VOD.

[Roger P.]

Yes, but head over there. But until then, it's been our pleasure to serve.