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Mike Howard
Scare the crank that thing up, Roger. Let's turn that down. Let's turn that to about a half, please.
Andy Cortez
A couple decibel. A couple decies. Welcome to Kind of Funny Games daily for Wednesday, January 5, 2025 on the Nitro Rifle three point shooting, Root and Tudin, Andy Cortez from Twitch TV, Andy Cortez. And I'm joined by Twitch TV slash Snowbike Mike, aka the series champion for the Backyard Baseball League.
Mike Howard
Oh, thank you, Andy. A lot of people asked me last night, they said, would you trade Andy Cortez for Luca? And I said, never. Andy's got the touch, he's got the shot.
Andy Cortez
I, I think me and Luca definitely have a similar appetite.
Mike Howard
You know, thick Andy, thick snacking.
Andy Cortez
You know what I mean? Just snacking. If I were around the Lakers facilities right now, LeBron would be walking around looking at me like just munching on some goldfish and be like, get, stop, stop snacking.
Mike Howard
LeBron has gone to JJ in the front office. He said, all the snacks out of.
Andy Cortez
The building, get the vending machines out.
Mike Howard
Nothing but healthy snacks in front of Luca for the next five years.
Andy Cortez
That the meme of the kid like not wanting the celery. So great. This is Kind of Funny Games Daily. Once again for each every weekday we run you through the nerdy news you need to know about live on YouTube, Twitch and on podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the Kind of Funny membership on Patreon, YouTube and now Spotify and Apple Podcasts to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show. For a chance to be a part of our show, submit your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. Housekeeping. We're an 11 person business all about live talk shows and if you're a premium collector's Item tier member on Patreon, you'll get a legendary art piece from the legendary Panda Musk. It's the Ace Off. The Ace off is here as off face off. That's patreon.com forward slash. Kind of funny, I'm pretty sure, but incredible art piece by Panda Musk. Who's who? What life? Who's living Whose life? Is it the Ace? Is it Nick Scarpino? We don't know. But all I know is that I love Panamask's art. Panama has been doing stuff for kind of funny since before I even joined. Since he. Since the inception, since the beyond days at ign. Panamask is the absolute homie. And nobody knows what they look like.
Mike Howard
But nobody knows if we have hair or not.
Andy Cortez
I've met him a couple times. Met him a couple. Yeah. We don't. We don't. Now I have hair. Why are you giving Roger?
Mike Howard
He's doing it.
Andy Cortez
No.
Mike Howard
You started the show so quickly, I didn't even get to ask you what's the biggest question of the day. Are these Post Malone Oreos gonna taste good?
Andy Cortez
Where are we?
Mike Howard
Are these Post Malone Oreos gonna taste good or not? Andy, I need to know.
Andy Cortez
Do you know the flavor profile? Is there any hint he's.
Mike Howard
He's mixing two flavors? They're twisted.
Andy Cortez
Do we know what they are? Or is that just like. Is there an official press release?
Mike Howard
Can I. Can I get an official press release? I don't know, but we'll find out.
Andy Cortez
I mean, we gotta look up Post Malone social media. Like, is he even talking? Does he even know that these are out post?
Mike Howard
He's talking about it. He says, are these going the best Oreos ever made?
Andy Cortez
I'm going to Oreo.com AD hashtag AD I'm going to Oreos.com products post-malone?. Size equals one plus pack.
Mike Howard
Oh, my gosh. We have a chocolate top, a golden base, salted caramel, and shortbread flavor cream.
Andy Cortez
I don't know what short. What's.
Mike Howard
He's mixing it.
Andy Cortez
What shortbread?
Mike Howard
I don't know. What is short? That's a great question. I don't know.
Andy Cortez
Do you know what shortbread is, Ronnie?
Roger
It's like a cookie.
Andy Cortez
I know what long bread is.
Mike Howard
Oh, there's a long bread.
Andy Cortez
But salted. The caramel part sounds like caramel. As we were doing the Fantastic Four reaction yesterday.
Mike Howard
Look good.
Andy Cortez
I saw the salted caramel Twix. I had to bring those in for Game Over. Greggy. That's Oreo.
Mike Howard
I'm just going to call that a basic cookie. Like a basic cookie taste? No, it's like plain.
Roger
The texture is different.
Andy Cortez
Is it like super soft? This looks like something that you would find in an old village in. In the uk.
Roger
Yes, exactly.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Okay.
Mike Howard
Yeah, Okay.
Andy Cortez
I don't know. We'll see. Post Malone, you're going to have to really wow us and surprise us with this. But I'm really stoked about this. Or whatever the salted caramel mixes.
Mike Howard
Can it be better than these? Cinnamon bun. That's my favorite, the cinnamon bun Oreo.
Andy Cortez
You know, I was really a big fan of those cosmic ones with the. With the pop rocks. Those were really delicious. I was a big fan of those.
Mike Howard
I like those a lot.
Andy Cortez
Mike. How you doing this morning, Andy?
Mike Howard
I feel good. I stayed up really late playing a whole lot of Sniper Elite Resistance, but doing all right. How about yourself? You were ranking a lot of Marvel movies for the great Marvel re ranking.
Andy Cortez
Yes. As you all know. Chat. As most of you all know.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Tomorrow on Live on YouTube. Or a lot, you know, if you're a Patreon member. We're doing an episode of In Review, something that I've been asking for for a long time. And it was kind of awesome going through this re rank.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
Because I'm clicking on videos.
Mike Howard
You're watching trailers.
Andy Cortez
Well, you know, I. I started off my ranking and then I had to shut the stream off because I was like, I'm so hungry. I'm gonna make some bad decisions here.
Mike Howard
Smart, smart.
Andy Cortez
Let me send the raid over to Mike. But the big important thing with the In Review stuff was, like, I was going back to also watch old clips of me talking about these old movies.
Mike Howard
Smart.
Andy Cortez
And in these clips in 2021 being like, we gotta re rank these movies, man. Like, I'm sick of that movie being up there. We need to go Mathematic with it. I don't like Tim's. You know, Andy and Greg have this movie at 20. I have it at five. Nick has it at 16. So it goes at number five. Tim was just. He's doing whatever he wants. But now we are going on pure mathematics. We are putting all of our range. We are putting 1 through 62. All of the MCU, all the spider man movies, Toby, Andrew, Garfield, all the X Men movies, Daredevil, Elektra, all the Venom movies, Morbius.
Mike Howard
So good.
Andy Cortez
Which ones?
Mike Howard
All of them.
Andy Cortez
Go yourself. No, they're not. You're a liar. All the Venom movies, Madame Web. Every one of them had to be in there. Two movies. Yeah, it Was I stayed up way too light late last night.
Mike Howard
Was it tough to get down to your top five? No, I got a pretty locked in.
Andy Cortez
No, like, dude, my, my, I'm so solid. Like, the Russo bros are just dominating my top spots.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
But the rest of it, you know, dude, it's like 1:30 in the morning and I'm like, I don't know if. If I like x2 x Men 2 over the Wolverine, where he went to Tokyo in that one, you know? Yeah. I just don't know right now. It's so hard to tell. So I was watching back my old reactions, watching back some clips to kind of refresh the brain. Had a lot of controversies. Chris Anka has not spoken to me since.
Mike Howard
He's not gonna call you.
Andy Cortez
He's not happy that I had a lot of movies over Winter Soldier. But yeah, I stayed up way too late doing that.
Mike Howard
Mike, you know what day that's going down to tell the people to promote that.
Andy Cortez
Get excited tomorrow for In Review, if you're a patre, you can watch that live. We are giving all of our rankings to Tim. He has them all. You're gonna. He's gonna put them all into his little Excel spreadsheet Doc, and mathematically, they're all going to be ranked. So we cannot complain about where the things go because you know, what happens with the interview, Mike, I'll go, man, I really like this movie. I like it more than number 12, but I don't like it more than number eight. And you put number eight way too high, so I guess I'll put it at 12. You know, like, you're. You're always fighting with the list, you know, here it's just like you're just fighting with your own thoughts.
Mike Howard
Let's see where the list goes.
Andy Cortez
And, you know, was I. Was I fighting a lot for Eternals the past couple days? And then yesterday as I was ranking my own things, being like, man, I don't. Maybe I'm not the biggest Eternals fan, you know? And honestly, Thor love and thunder gets way too much shade. I'm just gonna throw that out there right now. Is it. Is it in my top 10? Possibly. You have to wait and see.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
No, that's very big. It's not in my top 10, Mike. Down in my top 10. This is a gaming show, though, Mike. Let's talk about games today after the Games cast, or today after Kind of Funny Games Daily. Daily. You'll get the Games cast, which is Greg's preview of WWE 2K25.
Mike Howard
I really hope he went to the island. I need to know about the Island. That's what they're promoting in wwe. I don't know what it is. Is it the city like NBA 2K?
Andy Cortez
Oh no.
Mike Howard
As I need to know it. I desperately need to know what is the island in WWE 2K? Are we all creating wrestlers? Are we pile driving each other in the streets?
Andy Cortez
Is it like a reality type show?
Mike Howard
You don't know what the island is?
Andy Cortez
The stream after the games cast is the headliners. You played a bit of this on stream, Mike?
Mike Howard
Yeah, I think that for it's an $8 game on Steam. It is like content warning. If you remember last year when we became YouTubers and tried to get the best clips, this one instead you work for the local newspaper and you're trying to get the front page photo for the newspaper. So you'll go out into downtown New York, it's mayhem. There's giant Godzilla monsters and you try to take a photo of it.
Andy Cortez
That sounds like a blast. If you're a kind of funny member, you can get Greg's Greg way, which is great. Talking about Rooster Teeth being back.
Mike Howard
Wow.
Andy Cortez
The return thank you to our Patreon producers, Delaney Twining, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Karen Lindner. Today we're brought to you by Aura Frames, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin with what is and forever will be the Roper Report. Time for some news. We have six stories today. Thank you, Roger. Story number one, Rooster Teeth is back. Woke up to early news this morning. Just saw a bunch of tweets, saw a bunch of blue sky posts. Big deal like whoa, my dream excitement, my dreaming right now. Bernie Burns, founder of the online media outlet Rooster Teeth, has officially acquired the beloved entertainment brand. Pulling a little smosh right there, Mike. Buying back the the old thing that you used to own. This milestone marks a new chapter for Rooster Teeth as it returns to the hands of its original creator as part of his rooster of his company, Box Canyon Productions. This is the press release from Bernie Burns and his company Box Canyon Productions. Under Burns leadership, the historic brand plans to renew its focus on innovation, community engagement and the spirit of creativity that first defined its success. Burns started rooster teeth in 2003 with the breakout success of Red vs Blue, the longest running web series in history. Over years, Rooster Teeth expanded into a multimedia powerhouse, hiring incredible stars like Andy Cortez, producing hit shows like Ruby and the International RTX Convention series, while fostering a passionate global fan base. With his acquisition, Bernie aims to Reignite the collaborative and community driven energy that made Rooster Teeth a trailblazer in digital entertainment. Quote. I am excited at the challenge of bringing Rooster Teeth back to its roots, said Burns. The heart of this brand has always been its fans and I look forward to writing a new chapter together. End quote. As an early pioneer of online video content, Rooster Teeth set the standard for how fan first entertainment could thrive in the digital age. With Burns back at the helm, fans can anticipate a renewed dedication to Rooster Teeth original mission to entertain, inspire and connect. Along with the acquisition, Box Canyon announced a new development slate of productions for 2025, including renewed production of some of the platform's classic shows. A new original audio adventure again is the, I guess the new audio adventure. Kind of blanking on how the grat the grammar is working there. And an untitled reimagining of Burns first film. The schedule, it's back. Mikey, big congratulations.
Mike Howard
First off to Bernie Burns out there. Congratulations to him, his family and the team. You know, we'll see who he assembles around him. I think that's the exciting part. It's been eight months since the shutdown originally of Rooster Teeth. Right. A lot of people have gone off on their own ways. We'll see Bernie kind of bring people back or bring on new faces and hopefully create something great. I think he's got the skills for it.
Andy Cortez
And on that press release they have their Patreon. The YouTube is back up. The Twitter link that says parentheses or X or whatever is there as well. Yeah, this is exciting. I, I, I do immediately wonder what the sort of slate is looking like.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
What is the content going to be? Are they shifting back towards just real life stuff? Is it podcasts? Is it, you know, because obviously Morning Somewhere is a podcast that Bernie Burns has with Ashley Burns and they found great success with Morning Somewhere. And I think all that comes, I think my main thought is just where is this going? What is the slate of content going to be? Are they getting back into gaming in a big way? Is it going to be let's plays. Is it going? Is it just going to be. Let's just get the band back together. Who's coming back to the squad? You know, that's where my mind goes. Will I go back?
Mike Howard
What do you want?
Andy Cortez
I don't know.
Mike Howard
Will Andy get a phone call?
Andy Cortez
Will I get the call? Mike, you know, return to Texas. The big return, Mike.
Mike Howard
He loves Texas.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Mike Howard
That's exciting. Yeah. What do you want to see? Come back. Is there anything back in the day that you love that you'd love to see a return of?
Andy Cortez
Well, I've seen a lot of the homies break off and have their own success. All of our great friends with Tales of the Stinky Dragon, which is their DND podcast, which is super popular, and they're doing great job, great work over there on Patreon, and they're, they're making their own stuff and they're making their own way. I would love to see a return to the kind of funny podcast or to the rooster podcast. Okay. Because that's, that was some of my favorite content to listen to and I loved being, when I worked there, just watching it live was so great. I think Bernie Burns is still one of my favorite podcasters. Just a dude who could just talk about anything and everything and be really good at entertaining at it. And I would love to see some sort of return of just where are they now? But I think the mix of where are they now? Versus making something that doesn't feel like forced is going to be the biggest battle to see. Like, how, how are they going to sort of tread those lines? I, I don't think you can really bring back rooster teeth without bringing back a lot of the personalities that made rooster teeth.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
So I don't expect to see a whole lot of new faces. I expect to see a lot of, you know, maybe cameos and returns from past stars that have been on there, a lot of our old friends. But I, I think I, I, I'm super stoked that it's now back in his hands.
Mike Howard
Yeah, I think that's exciting.
Andy Cortez
I think once the acquisition started, that's where, you know, you kind of start to lose some of the, the, the, the passion and the, you know, once corporate sort of starts to get involved. We saw, you know, it was full screen and then @t and then Warner, and then it just starts to sort of exchange a lot of hands and there's a lot of people up top that don't even give a what you're making here. You know that the person in charge and the people in charge are going to give a shit about what is being made out there.
Mike Howard
It's all very exciting stuff.
Greg Miller
And.
Mike Howard
Yeah, what's the rollout, Andy? When I think of next, are we going to see this as a live product on Twitch? This has become a YouTube or Patreon type of vision going on. Is it just an audio podcast we put out weekly? It's going to be really fun to see that back. I know the fans are big in celebrating the return of this and like you said, Bernie being the one to kind of hold it all in his hands will be a lot of fun to see.
Andy Cortez
Now are they. I mean, in the video they're obviously back at the hangar.
Mike Howard
That was pretty wild.
Andy Cortez
Which is kind of insane. You know, I, because it's, you know, I, I just, I'll just, you know, I'll just hit Bernie. I'll be like, what's the budget? You know, what are we doing? Did you just like walk in there? Is that yours? Now it's obvious that the newer logo is on the wall, you know, with the broken teeth. So.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Which is kind of a neat logo.
Mike Howard
Right.
Andy Cortez
You know, showing they've been through their battles, but they're back from the dead. Yeah.
Roger
I like the idea that he just broke an enter, you know what I mean? No connection to anything.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. There's just, there's a video proof now, Bernie, you have to be careful. You can't just be putting out stuff like that. Chat, let us know, what do you think about the return of rooster teeth in your super chats as we go along with the show? And yeah, I think a lot of people in the chat have a lot of just, you know, honest sort of thoughts being like, I hope this isn't another G4. I hope this isn't another return of something that we loved that is just doesn't quite find the voice and is gone pretty quickly. I don't think it's gonna be that.
Mike Howard
Okay. Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Because I don't think they're. In my mind. I don't think Bernie is shooting for anything too crazy.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
In terms of like budget and production, I think it's gonna be all pretty, you know, manageable in terms of the amount of people working, the amount of, of content being put out there and we'll, you know, I, I think again, like I mentioned earlier, you can't have rooster teeth without the faces that you love and recognize, so.
Mike Howard
Exactly.
Andy Cortez
To have them back all in a room again talking, I think is going to be really neat to see. Especially since a lot of them are still Austin based.
Mike Howard
So exciting stuff. Yeah. It's all about the faces. It's all about the people. And that should be a really good time.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. RVB Jeep says G4 try to return where they left off. Super true. You know, it's. It's hard, it's. It's hard to come back with, with this sort of idea in mind that you're going to take over the world like G4 thought that they did back in the day. And Having massive product with a lot of different staff and a lot of people that you have to kind of keep employed. That's, that can be pretty unwieldy at times. But yeah, really excited about that. Congratulations, rooster teeth. Let's move on to story number two. The Switch 2 Nintendo Direct now has a date and time. This comes from Wesley Yinpool at ign and I just want to throw out there, Mike, tell me west coast sucks.
Mike Howard
West coast sucks, yes, because you're getting the 6am Nintendo news job.
Andy Cortez
And it's not just that every time we want to see a new goddamn Pokemon out there, a new freaking bulbasaur shows up somewhere. 5:00am it's, it's, it's now.
Mike Howard
Is 9:00am Even better for you?
Andy Cortez
Yeah, 9:00am oh yeah.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
Absolutely.
Mike Howard
Anywhere between 6 to 10. I'm still not happy.
Andy Cortez
I'll never forget during the pandemic, waking up four different Pokemon directs and my stupid neighbor beneath me knocking on the ceiling because I'm talking at six in the morning and go yourself. You know, it's just. Who wants to watch football at 10 in the morning? It's not right.
Mike Howard
He's not a West coast guy.
Andy Cortez
It's not right. This, yeah, once again comes from Wesleyan Pool the Switch 2 Nintendo Direct now is a time as well as a date. 6:00am Pacific Time. Wednesday, April 2nd. A day after April Fools. And we're the fools. We're the fools for waking up at 6:00am you know, that's 9:00am Eastern. Honestly. Delay it again. Just delay it another year. You know, I don't care anymore. I don't want to wake up at six. Nintendo has said it will use an Antenna Direct to share a closer look at Switch 2 following its drive by reveal of the console last month. The reveal offered a Look at the Switch 2 form factor, a glimpse at what looks like Mario Kart 9, and tease a potential mouse mode for the new Joy Con. But there will still be a number of unanswered questions about Switch 2, including what the mysterious new Joy Con button does, how powerful the console will be, and what its new ports might be used for.
Mike Howard
Well, you got a date in the time. I know you're upset about the time, but at least you got a date right around the corner. Start of the month in April. We get some answers. Hopefully we see some great games. I think that's exciting. I also do love that like we will kind of get maybe more of a look of like how powerful this is. What are we shooting for frame rate wise? Is it going to be able to hold up. Can it do some of the things. Will it play big games that we're really excited for like an Elden Ring or Call of Duty? I mean I, I can't wait for all the answers, but of course give me the Nintendo touchstones. That's all you need to do. Mario, Mario Kart, Metroid, what else? Zelda. They're clapping now.
Andy Cortez
I think what we needed pizza bet on right now. Mike, tell me because either way we get pizza, whoever wins. What's the time of this video? What's the duration?
Mike Howard
It starts at 6am Nintendo Direct.
Andy Cortez
Most directs, I feel are usually above the 15 minute mark, sometimes 20 minutes because they're showing a lot of different games.
Mike Howard
I like that. Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I think since this is going to be mainly just hardware and I don't foresee, you know, the way we've had in the past where it's like, you know, and here's a deep dive into this video game. That's right. I think we're going to get. Here's how the hardware looks.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
Here's how, you know, here's what it's going to do. Here's what it's capable of. Show off a couple of games. But I don't know if we're going to get big reveal of video game. I think we will see small sort of looks at like different stuff that is down the pipeline.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
But I don't know for when I say big reveal, I guess, I mean I don't think we're going to get a 10 minute deep dive into a video game.
Mike Howard
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andy Cortez
I think it's going to be God dang, you know, Jessica's on a roof playing the switch.
Mike Howard
Yes.
Andy Cortez
She goes into her apartment. We've already talked Brie Larson, Sabrina Carpenter there.
Mike Howard
What a combo.
Andy Cortez
And they're doing the mouse mode and all that stuff. They're showing you what this thing can still do and why it still needs to be in your household. But why it's of hardware that you should be wanting to be able to play these newer video games and high resolution with hopefully this wireless display.
Mike Howard
So what's the timer? Under or over 20 or do you want to go over and under 30?
Roger
Just for context. Most Nintendo Directs are about 40 minutes.
Mike Howard
Yeah, well, I think that's why maybe it's 30 might be it. But we also said what if it's a little bit smaller? What if it is?
Andy Cortez
I guess, yeah, I'm thinking most. I think, yeah, I guess I'm thinking like most of those are. Have at least you know, five to ten games being shown in those directs.
Roger
Yeah, but there's so much hype behind this one. You know what I mean? You, I think, don't you think it'd be a little disappointing if they're like, hey, this is like a 15 minute, 20 minute thing. Like, I feel like they have to go deep dive at least on some of these games.
Mike Howard
Or is that not June, not a summer?
Andy Cortez
When is this?
Roger
Like, are they like. I guess the question is like, are they coming out here and being like, hey, this thing comes out in a month? Because if it comes out in like a month and a half, they got to show everything. Pretty much that's true.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. That's an even better point, Roger. I hadn't even considered that because I was going to put this at 17 minutes.
Mike Howard
You're going to go under 20.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, I was going to go under 20.
Mike Howard
I would have taken over 20 then.
Roger
That's crazy.
Mike Howard
I would have taken over 20. The 30 minute mark I get a little worried about, but I would have over 20. Well, then we start playing the game of like how big is the blowout? Like Roger says, is it smaller like you say, like 30 minutes, then be gets kind of big to fill that out. But like if you're going to go under 20, if you're going to take 17, I'll gladly take over 20 on the pizza bet. But we both get pizza.
Andy Cortez
We both get pizza. I mean, yeah, I just like I. When I think about this thing being revealed on April 2nd and you think that they're going to give it a month between. You're giving it a month of time in between April 2nd and May 2nd. Like you're, you're. That, that's where you're assuming, Roger, you think comes out.
Roger
Yeah, I don't know. I think I see it coming out in June, but I forget when it is. When are people playing this thing? Because remember, they have like the switch experience as well. So we have to factor that into it. Like there has to be enough shown because people are going to be playing this within that month. I believe so. I don't know.
Andy Cortez
Y'all are getting me more, more and more excited about this. There's a lot, there's a lot to show. So in my mind, I. The way I'm looking at it. Yeah, the way I was looking at it earlier prior to having my eyes being my eyes I am to open. That's from Bloodborne Mike. You'll play that one day, especially with Bloodborne D. Make God fucking dmc as well, talk about that.
Mike Howard
Nintendo Switch to experience is happening April 4th through the 6th, April 11th to the 13th, and April 25th to the 20th.
Roger
Oh yeah. So they're immediately playing this thing. We got to show up. We got to show a good amount because people are going to be touching this thing, touching that mouse mode.
Andy Cortez
Damn.
Mike Howard
Because then get your hands on with the Nintendo Switch 2. It says Hands on with it.
Andy Cortez
Oh, no, we know that, but I just don't know what sort of titles we'll be seeing apart From Mario Kart 9.
Roger
Metroid.
Andy Cortez
You would assume new Mario Mario makes or no, Metro definitely makes sense. I. I guess in my mind, the way I was, you know, I would. I wake up out of bed this morning, it's freezing in my room and I'm like, oh my God, turn on my heater a little bit more and I go, Nintendo direct Video. When this drops, will be 17 minutes of the hardware. And then maybe two months down the line, or a month and a half down the line, we get the game blowout. But now that just makes no sense timing wise.
Mike Howard
This is it. This is their game time. Yeah, this is it.
Andy Cortez
This is it.
Roger
Has to be it.
Mike Howard
This is their big super bowl event right here, man.
Roger
See Hollow Knight there You're gonna see everything.
Mike Howard
Shut up, Shut up.
Andy Cortez
Don't you gotta be there.
Roger
It's gotta be there, bro.
Mike Howard
Do that.
Roger
I've been playing Hollow Knight, bro. So I'm in. I'm in with you.
Andy Cortez
You've been playing Hollow Knight.
Roger
I'm in love with this. That's where I got slapped, bro.
Mike Howard
I was playing Holiday mad that he was playing Hollow Knight. He's like, silk song's never coming out.
Andy Cortez
Bang.
Roger
Right inside of my head. It was crazy.
Mike Howard
Kid was pissed.
Andy Cortez
God damn. JetBlue sounds like a fighter in Street Fighter, right? It sounds like a. Right. That's crazy, man. Don't even do this to me. Don't even do this to me. Okay, so. Okay, hold on, hold on.
Mike Howard
Run it back, run it back. What do you want to tell us, cuz?
Andy Cortez
Now, now, shoot. Now I'm at like the 54 minute mark.
Mike Howard
We'll break it down. So 17, you're thinking is hardware?
Andy Cortez
I think, I think look into hardware. I mean, we're still going to get teases of hardware of how this game is affected by whatever this. Yeah, yeah, you know, by. By whatever this hardware can do.
Mike Howard
The backwards compatibility.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, of course.
Mike Howard
The. All the titles.
Andy Cortez
Okay, so let's say Mario Kart 9 here. Let's do. I'm going to bring Up a calculator. Run up the calculator. Little calculator. God, man, you're going to excited right now. Okay. 17 minutes hardware plus Mario Kart 9 is gonna get. I'm gonna say 12 minutes.
Mike Howard
12 minutes of Mario Kart.
Andy Cortez
I mean, we've seen them.
Roger
How much do you have to say?
Andy Cortez
We've seen them do 18 minutes of goddamn Splatoon 3 DLC. You know what I mean? Like, they go crazy, but that's when.
Roger
They had nothing to do.
Andy Cortez
Right.
Roger
Like, they got to talk about. They got Elder ring, they got. They got a bunch of.
Andy Cortez
You don't think Elden Ring will be like a. A sizzle reel type thing?
Roger
That's true, that's true.
Mike Howard
I.
Roger
One thing that I do. If we're building it right now, this is probably a games guys.
Andy Cortez
But like, it is.
Roger
I. I think they have to have Call of Duty.
Andy Cortez
Welcome to the games, guys.
Roger
They have to have Call of Duty in there at least to show it off. Right? I mean, that's huge.
Mike Howard
That would be crazy. Roger.
Andy Cortez
Splatoon 4 is another. Like, no. Oh, you can never say, Roger. We got three splatoons in goddamn single cycle. Even though the person was on Wii U, but still. Like, we got three splatoons in about nine years.
Mike Howard
People love splatoons.
Roger
And that same team makes animal crossing correct?
Andy Cortez
Arms two.
Mike Howard
No, arms two for sure. When we get a new animal crossing, are we in that window? We still got a little bit of.
Roger
I hope so, dude.
Andy Cortez
Four years.
Mike Howard
Are we in that?
Roger
Five years.
Andy Cortez
Damn. It feels like this game came out eight months ago. God, I was in the. Just depressed in that. In my single bedroom, man. Okay. Yeah, okay. 17 for hardware.
Roger
So it's the same team, by the way. It is the same team.
Andy Cortez
Really?
Roger
Yeah. So I'm telling you, like, if they're. If they're making. They made Splatoon 3. They finish it off. They're on to animal crossing. It has to be.
Andy Cortez
What are they called? Like, what a wild switch up.
Mike Howard
That team does good for them. They are talented.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Just really kind of going in every direction they want to go. Who made arms, man? Arms. Arms. My number. Like, that's my number one thing of seeing arms and being like, this is gonna be the biggest game of all time. Could not have. Could not have been more wrong with arms, but that demo was pretty sick.
Mike Howard
Well, we get a Ring Fit Adventure too, one day down the line.
Andy Cortez
Oh, yeah, we'll need another pandemic.
Mike Howard
Man.
Andy Cortez
I bought that used. I bought the Peggy 18 or Peggy whatever version of ring Fit off of ebay for like $190.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Crazy plastic sitting in there.
Mike Howard
Just squeezing there.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, just like squeezing it between my thighs. And sometimes it would go the other way. Hit me in the balls, man. Okay, okay, I'm going, I'm going over the 50 minute mark now.
Mike Howard
Over 50?
Andy Cortez
Yeah, for the whole thing. For just reach to.
Mike Howard
I love that. I'll go under 50. I'll put you at about 47.
Roger
I'm going to say 53. 28.
Mike Howard
I like that.
Andy Cortez
I'll go 51. 20. Write it down. I'm writing it.
Roger
Mike, what's your specific?
Mike Howard
47. 47. 35.
Roger
Chat. You got to keep us honest because we just said numbers and we don't remember.
Andy Cortez
50. 28. You said 53.
Roger
28 something.
Andy Cortez
I said 50. Yeah. Okay, this is getting really excited now. Okay, you know what it. I don't care about waking up at six in the morning now, so let's.
Mike Howard
Let'S go to it. So if we, we believe this is the big blow you do you think you see games like Hollow Knight, Elden Ring, Call of Duty, do we keep it with more mainline Switch two titles?
Andy Cortez
I think there will be a third party sizzle reel, but I think a game like either Call of Duty or Elden Ring will have a larger presence.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
In terms of just like you're not just seeing it in a highlight of. Here's this and this and you know, here's all these. Here's all these things, you know, that you should expect on a modern piece of hardware. I think a game like Elden Ring or something like that could get a larger showcase.
Mike Howard
Any more Xbox titles? I know Call of Duty's in Xbox, but it's still new, you know? Any other, other Xbox titles you could see?
Andy Cortez
Dude, absolutely. I mean, the fact that like Forza seems completely possible. Yeah, why not? Why wouldn't Forza be there if it just got announced for PlayStation?
Mike Howard
You know, that machine's got to be a little stronger. That Switch gotta be a little stronger.
Andy Cortez
I don't know, man. I mean like with whatever tech they have in there, with the upscaling they can do, they can hit 60 at a, at a lower visual quality.
Roger
Like 60, bro.
Andy Cortez
I think so, man. I think it's completely feasible for a PS4 Pro, which is like this thing is still. Even though they classified as like on the levels of PS4 Pro, it's still more modern and newer. So it's like PS4 Pro 0.5 ish. Plus this sort of, you know, up resin Tech deal, whatever. I don't know if they're actually going with DLSS as a term. I don't know if that's their thing. I know it's an Nvidia chipset, but it's going to have that uprising, I think. I think 60 frames is totally possible.
Mike Howard
I love that. Okay, that's exciting.
Andy Cortez
I don't see why not. Yeah.
Mike Howard
Surprises with Master Chief collections. Not yet. One day, man, you better get ready.
Andy Cortez
I've never been more excited.
Mike Howard
You're excited to wake up early for this?
Andy Cortez
I've never been more excited for a piece of hardware. Probably since, like the, I don't know, the PS4 or something.
Mike Howard
Is this right here? The switch?
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Like, I mean, this is, you know, after using my Wii U emulator in quotes when I was playing Breath of the wild and 60 frames per second. And just like, these games are so beautiful and their art style carries. It just hard carries.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And if it could just look better and run a little bit better, you know, Tears of the Kingdom. Experiencing that, how is that gonna feel? And look. Oh, my goodness, Mike, this is all very, very exciting.
Mike Howard
Okay, well, you have to wake up early April 2nd.
Andy Cortez
I won't be able to sleep.
Mike Howard
6Am Maybe you stay up all night.
Andy Cortez
Eat some pizza afterwards.
Mike Howard
I've been eating a lot of Pizza Hut personal pan pizzas. A lot of them, loving them. I have to order two at once.
Roger
Oh, no.
Mike Howard
Because I eat two, you know.
Roger
Okay. I thought you were trying to say, like, oh, I save one or whatever.
Mike Howard
No, no, no.
Andy Cortez
Nick Scarpino was telling me that you're trying to kind of ask him to hold you accountable a bit for your.
Mike Howard
No, he wants. You listen to the podcast. He wants to hold me accountable. So I have to text him with everything that I'm thinking about eating.
Andy Cortez
Okay. Because the way he kind of phrased it to me yesterday on stream was I was hoping that Mike was going to tell me, like, you know, I'm eating. You know, here's the healthy stuff that I'm going into. But then Nick just said he's basically just texting me, like, the unhealthy stuff that he's eating. And, like, what am I gonna do about it?
Mike Howard
He wanted me to text him. Nick wants me to text him whenever I'm gonna go eat something. And then he goes, yay or nay? And then we'll provide an alternative.
Andy Cortez
Oh.
Mike Howard
Because so day one, I wrote, I'm buying pineapple juice and a water bottle for breakfast. And he wrote, skip the pineapple juice. Let's get black coffee. And so I got my first ever.
Andy Cortez
That's not good black iced coffee.
Mike Howard
And it sucked. Yeah, it sucks so bad. Just so you know it, Dan. Dude, dude. Black.
Andy Cortez
It sucks, man.
Roger
Shut up.
Mike Howard
It's just.
Andy Cortez
Why would you want to taste something not good? Grow up. Put some sugar in there. Pour some sugar on me.
Mike Howard
And then I was like, for lunch, I would like a chipotle, bro. Chipotle bowl with chicken, rice, sour cream. He goes, no sour cream. I go, all right.
Roger
Wow, he's really bringing in a lot of heaters right there.
Andy Cortez
That's how it goes. Yes. Y'all haven't had great coffee. No, Gilbert, it's just like. It's, you know, it's just not good. I don't know. Give me something. You put some. Put some white chocolate mocha with some cinnamon.
Mike Howard
You know, you never see Andy drinking coffee. I. I don't drink coffee. So it's like. Well, just that coffee guy.
Andy Cortez
We're the arbiters of good taste, you know?
Mike Howard
He's drinking a monster right now.
Andy Cortez
Oh, man. Dude, you can't drink some fresh pineapple Ultra vice guava. It's so good. This. This is a really good one. Yeah. Thank you for watching Kind of Funny Games Daily, everybody. We can't do this without your all support and without the support from some of our sponsors. So let's hear from right now.
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This episode is brought to you by Meundies. While Meundies can't totally help your love life, this Valentine's Day they can offer you insanely comfy undies and loungewear to buy or gift. Meundies has so many awesome Valentine's Day prints and styles. Plus you can match with your partner, friends or even your pets. This Valentine's Day give the gift that'll keep them thinking of you and score huge site wide savings@meundies.com Spotify that's meundies.com Spotify Meundies comfort from the outside in. Roger called somebody out in the chat who said, mike, at that point just get a medium pizza. Which is so true.
Mike Howard
Yeah, but then I'm a man with a medium pizza. And then you gotta bag up the extra slices.
Roger
You know, there's no extra slices.
Mike Howard
There's never actually.
Andy Cortez
Just get a small pizza then get a little small.
Mike Howard
Then that's just a personal pizza at that point.
Andy Cortez
No, more like, I guess if you're talking vocabulary wise, it's your personal pizza. But no, it's like it's more.
Mike Howard
We're gonna order. I'm gonna order some for lunch today for us.
Andy Cortez
No, don't use this as an excuse. Right.
Mike Howard
We're gonna do the science. We're gonna do the science.
Andy Cortez
Anytime there's an opportunity, we'll stream later, we'll get some pizza.
Mike Howard
Text Nick. Hey Nick, I'm ordering two pizzas for lunch today. Says yes or no to that.
Andy Cortez
Let's read some super chats here from Orel Sanchez. Says can we have Nick verify that monster drink hasn't been tampered with? Can't be hosting under the Dew fluence. Yeah, hashtag Andy juicing. That's right. Nick was. Nick was accusing me of juicing the other day because of monster energy drink. Frolicious. A super chat two dollar says birthday tax on my 30th. Andy's. Yours is soon. Well, happy birthday, Froalicious.
Mike Howard
Happy birthday.
Andy Cortez
Andy's turn.
Mike Howard
29.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, 2022. Kelsey Dia says the January 2017 switch presentation was around one hour. Okay, thank you for that super chat. We have Memo rent who With a five dollar super chat. Who? Oh, Memo. We. The music memo.
Mike Howard
Memo and the music.
Andy Cortez
The music Memo wanted us to go watch his recital and I was like, I just got back from Vegas and then Japan.
Mike Howard
He was tired.
Andy Cortez
I'm tired, Memo.
Mike Howard
He was tired. But he sent his love.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, Irish Nexus 5$, Super Chat says I met Greg and Tim on a whim many years ago at RTX London. So I will be forever grateful to Rooster Teeth for introducing me to Kind of Funny which lasts to this day. I love that you love to see that.
Mike Howard
You went to a couple RTX's.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, I went to several RTX.
Mike Howard
You went to a global one.
Andy Cortez
A couple as fans as well. Yeah, actually I had somebody in my chat return in my Twitch chat that I hadn't, I hadn't seen their name in a while. They said, annie, I don't know if you remember me, but you, you took a photo of me several hours after I told you that I had just been mugged in London. I was like, I remember that.
Mike Howard
Wow.
Andy Cortez
I remember dude being like, I just got mugged, man. So I just got mugged, man. I just got mugged. That's how he said it. Amazing. Thank you for the super chats, everybody. Let's get to story number three right here. Story number three Apex Legends sequel a possibility as EA CEO changes stance on live shooter Live service shooters future this comes from Ed Nightingale at Eurogamer, A live shooter very different from a live service shooter. Want to make that differentiation? EA is working on, quote, a bigger, more meaningful update to its live service shooter, Apex Legends, suggesting some form of sequel will be on the way. During the company's latest earnings call, CEO Andrew Wilson responded to a question about the future of Apex, calling the game, quote, one of the great new launches in our industry over the last decade. However, he admitted the game has, quote, not been headed in the direction we'd been wanting. We had been wanted. We have wanted to for some time before acknowledging the development team is working towards, quote, a meaningful update. This update, though, will not arrive on top of a Battlefield launch, the company's other major shooter, which is expected to release before April 2026. QUOTE we do believe that there should be a more major update that will probably happen after a Battlefield launch, just in terms of timing and the team is diligently working through what that would be, said Wilson. And then longer term, our expectation is that we'll continue to expand what this franchise is and how we support a core community of highly competitive players and new communities that want to come and experience all the greatness that Apex has to offer. The company's aim is for Apex to be a franchise that lasts for decades, and for that, an even bigger, more meaningful update would be required. Quote an apex 2.0, if you will. End quote in the short term, though, the company's focus on supporting the games community with Strong anti cheat and new content quote. I would say we've been, we've seen some progress in that, but probably not as much as we would have liked, said Wilson. Wilson's comments seemingly backtrack on a previous earnings call in October last year where he discussed the possibility of an Apex Legend sequel. Typically what we have seen in the context of live service driven games at scale is the version 2 thing has never been, has almost never been as successful as the version one thing. He said at the time. Weird timing, but also not so weird timing with, you know, the release of the failure of Dragon Age Vale Guard and how that did not sell as much as they wanted, of course, and how that at one point was supposed to be a live service and then they said actually, never mind. We have this really cool Jedi Fallen Order thing that's pretty neat. Let's focus on single player games. Seeming now that they sort of want to backtrack. What do you think of this, Mike? Do you think this is the right call for.
Mike Howard
Yeah, I mean it's not an earnings call as well, right? So like you took that hit and it's like, well, everybody hold on now, hold on. We, we still got a money maker out there. We're, we're gonna figure it out. But yeah, it's wild to think about Apex Legends, right? Celebrating six years coming up here this month. So it's a long life, but also not as long as you would think, right? I think a lot of us think of Apex Legends. You're like, that was like 10 years ago. No, it's only been six, which is a small amount of time, but still pretty large here. I think you look at it right and you talk about the longevity of Apex and what is next and yeah, I think everybody gets worried about a sequel, right? When you put that two on it. We haven't seen Twos go that well. Looking at you, Overwatch too. And so I just, I do get a little worried of like, what is that goal, right? What is that desire that you'd want to build? Is it that single player story of different characters in the Apex world? Is that what we want? Is it a battle royale that's now mixed with the team arena shooter where maybe you're calling upon Titans and it is kind of like Titanfall esque. What is that vision for 2.0? But of course it sounds like we have some time. They are clearly trying not to step on the toes of Battlefield, which we've seen before with Titanfall 2. And so that's a smart move there to try to get away from your own product.
Andy Cortez
What do you think it takes to make Apex what it was and can it? Because in my mind.
Mike Howard
Tell me.
Andy Cortez
I feel like the player bases are cemented where they are.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
I don't know if Apex can come out with something that will meaningfully change the way that the gaming audience looks at it. Unless the other games just sort of hit major dips. Unless the stuff that they're playing has major dips in quality and. Or there's just a loss of interest over after a while. Apex to me will always be one of those mainstays. It will always be a constant.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Even what, whatever its player base is, it's still going to be much higher than any other multiplayer game. If you're not Call of Duty or Fortnite or Valorant and, you know, Counter Strike, all that stuff, it's always going to be one of those constants. But you know, when we think about Overwatch 2, Overwatch 2 was largely. You got to put the number on there because we are adding a lot of single player stuff and it's also a way for us to make more money.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And we're changing the way multiplayer works. And then actually none of the single player stuff is working the way we wanted it to now. This too is just a kind of a waste there. Right. I look at something like Rainbow six Siege, which has had a lot of success without a sequel. It's still going. It's still new content, it's still a new operator, new maps, new, you know, like, there's still a lot of passion behind that fan base. We saw a lot of like awesome hype behind the. The Apex, like whatever, tour. A big sort of tournament that happened recently. But with Apex, I don't know if there's anything that could really get it back into the fold in a big major way. What do you think, Mike?
Mike Howard
That's interesting. Yeah, I think it's still in the fold in a major way. Like, I think. I think It's a top three shooter right now.
Andy Cortez
I don't know if we're hitting 2019 levels ever again of Apex.
Mike Howard
I think that will always be hard. And I don't think you will because you don't have that first impression of like, oh, wow, it's something brand new. But I think you have something that has solidified itself as this is going to remain alive for quite some time. Right. Of course they talk about big updates, trying to identify anti cheats and hackers and making sure it's a better quality of Life game and they'll add things onto it. But I think you already have something so stable that you try to now bring in new audience members or lapsed audience members with smaller pieces of fun engagement. Right. So maybe that is a small single player where you play as one of your favorite champions and it's eight missions in some sort of universe to learn their backstory and jump in. Maybe it is. They've messed around with team arena shooters before. We saw in that three on three and four on four. Maybe it is its own side. Hey, we've made Apex Death Match and you jump in and this is it. It's its own free to play product. It doesn't need the life cycle of seven to eight years. Maybe it is supposed to only be a year to two years like a Call of Duty, but it gets new players in. Apex is still there. They can jump into Apex Legends anytime to continue to get that fixed.
Andy Cortez
I think those game modes have, you know, I think they've. They're in that sort of been there, done there, you know, sort of status. I don't know if they can try to implement modes like that again and expect a lot of success because it just never happened. I thought it was going to happen.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
When, when we're in the Pandemic and they are introducing this 3v3 mode where it is round based and you have a buy system where you are purchasing guns like in Counter Strike or like in Valorant. I'm like, oh wow, this, this could be massive because this gets players in and you're playing this mode to sort of level up guns to do whatever the hell to get xp and then you funnel into the big battle royale in the similar way to where Warzone has become. This massive ecosystem. Go play the multiplayer games, level up your guns, go play Nuketown Map, you know, seek into Search and Destroy or whatever, then come back to the battle royale for the real sort of experience. The big product, the kind of big grandiose thing that everything sort of revolves around. I thought that was going to happen with all that, with that round based mode kind of came and went. They immediately kind of shelved it after about maybe a year and a half or two. And we've seen other smaller modes, just normal deathmatches. We've seen different iterations in terms of, you know, Warzone has their version of Rebirth. We've seen Apex try to do classic, you know, different things like that. And I just, I feel like it will always be Apex and unfortunately that won't be enough for them. You know, I'm looking right now on Steam DB right now only on Steam there are 73,000 players playing this game that like multiplayer games dream of numbers like that. And that's not even counting console course. But that will just never be enough. You will always need more. And I don't know if that could ever be reached. I think we're kind of like. I think we're reaching the amount that we could do here.
Mike Howard
I mean, well, you add on new projects like that, right? Like the goal is simple to try to keep Apex in your mind. Right. No matter if you're a laps player, if you're a die hard player, we just don't want you to go. But we would love to have these smaller projects where you come back just like you and I did when we did that 3v3 mode you said, man, I. I should just be playing Apex. Like I really enjoy Apex. And if you just come in there for a week to a month, that engagement is so big for these teams. That's what they're looking for. For the longevity of this. It's tough to come out with an Apex Legends 2. Right? What is that? People are going to tweak at the idea of giving up all their stuff that they've put into that. I don't think in a live service world you can come out with an Apex Legends 2 and it be successful as this once was.
Andy Cortez
The children yearn for Titanfall.
Roger
Do you think that's the answer though? Like could you mix in Titanfall 3 elements and just make Apex 2 Titanfall 3 essentially, or had that be the big update that gets people back in?
Andy Cortez
I think if you called it Apex Legends to the fall of Titans or something, I just like there's no way to sort of cheapen. There's no way to do it without cheapening one of the other products.
Mike Howard
I don't think you get a Titanfall 3.
Andy Cortez
Me either.
Mike Howard
I don't.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Mike Howard
I just. I don't think Titanfall and Apex in how Apex looks and plays like it plays like Titanfall but like the look of it, when you look at Apex Legends and you think of Titanfall, they're just, they're clashing, right? Yeah, I don't think they mit. I don't think you meet in the middle somehow.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. You know, where you all have a similar wall running ability, you all have that similar mobility. And for Apex, I just to be a hero shooter it is. Every character has their own sort of vibe, their own thing, their own deal, their own ultimate, their own passives I, I don't know if you can mix those worlds and without pissing off a large amount of the player base.
Mike Howard
You know, I think everyone wants to be Fortnite. We've always had this conversation. Fortnite has somehow transcended just being a battle Royale because it has gone further than that with its own creation engine where people are creating inside of it. They're having fun just spending time as Peely the Banana mixed with Jonesy and some LEGO character. Fortnite has somehow gotten out of just being a battle royale. And I think other battle Royales specifically Apex Legends are looking around going, well, how do we take one step further? And they're having a pro, a tough problem. Call of Duty will always be lucky because they have a yearly product that comes out and they can tie it in with Call of Duty Warzone and get you to play both. Apex doesn't have that. Right. And so APEX is looking around going well we are just a straight up battle Royale. How do we become more than that to make sure the longevity of this can go on longer and longer?
Andy Cortez
I mean I think that may be the recipes for success. I think it may be some sort of. And, and it's, it's a recipe for success in quotes.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
But it's also the most massive risk ever of what if we copy that formula? What if it's. We come out with you know, a year and a half to every two years a new Apex six hour campaign.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
With a new multiplayer mode though there. And you also funnel into Titanfall or you also funnel into Apex Legends. Right. Or if it was just like a Titanfall campaign or whatever the hell, you know, with featuring, you know, the, you know, there's Bangalore and fucking, you know, all of your favorite Apex Legends heroes. That to me would be the model and also the most largest risk you can take because that's a freak load of money, dude.
Mike Howard
The craziest part is that people will say, is that what the Apex Legends community wants?
Andy Cortez
Right?
Mike Howard
Like what does the Apex Legends community actually want? They seem to be very content and happy with just a battle royale. They want you to get rid of hackers. They want you to nail down the anti cheat. They want a good ranked mode where they can see longevity of them grinding and seeing their progression. They want to have a casual mode they can jump in with their friends and not be absolutely shredded by people who at the top ranks like that's most of the Battle Royale audience is ever asking for. They usually don't ask for like well I really Love this character. I gotta have a six to nine hour campaign on this character. It's going to keep me there. But I think the companies on the other side are looking going how do I get more people into this fan base and get them playing? I think that's where we start to see that. But I, I don't know. This is a tough spot to be in for EA because whatever they do, if they come out with a single player campaign and it flops, it's not going to be a good sign there.
Andy Cortez
I mean for me, you know. Yeah, you're making the. Asking the right questions. What does the Apex player base want me as a non apex player base? You know, I used to play Apex back in the day and I was addicted to it. And I fell off like I fall off of most multiplayer games. But me as just a gamer. That Titanfall 2 game was pretty fucking good campaign wise. If you could like. We also love campaign games. We love single player campaign experiences. I loved Helldivers 2 or, or. Well, I love Helldivers too, but I love Space Marine too. Like the, the, the audience is there for a really good single player campaign experience. And that's just seems to be like. It's nowhere near you're gonna charge for it.
Mike Howard
We're talking about a free to play game with an audience that is set in a free to play. Wait, yeah.
Andy Cortez
You charge for a campaign game? Absolutely. I don't know if they're free to play campaign game. You, you know, in the same way.
Mike Howard
That I, I just don't.
Andy Cortez
You pay money to play the Call of Duty campaign. You pay money to play Doom, you pay money to play.
Mike Howard
Yeah, but those shooters set in that way. Apex Legends isn't right. So now you got to have me buy into a story about whatever character and think that I want that for six to eight hours or six to 12, whatever it may be and think that I'm gonna pay or not even 20 to 60, maybe even 70. Like that's a big, that's a big tough one for them.
Andy Cortez
I don't even think it has to be a player that or a story based around a character that you know. If you're a non Apex character player, you go, I don't know who that. Why, why am I interested? Just make a good story, you know, based game. Just, just make a good campaign game. That Titanfall 2 campaign was so goated.
Mike Howard
Well, they're doing that with Battlefield. Battlefield is coming back and having a single player campaign now. So that's a big deal.
Andy Cortez
They've seen battle actually get me to play Battlefield.
Mike Howard
Exactly. Battlefield is seeing that doing the only multiplayer routes and coming out buggy as a buggy mess was not the answer that they needed. They needed if they wanted to compete as a premium title against Call of Duty and, you know, formal Halo, they have to be a full product. That's what people wanted and so now they're going to do that.
Andy Cortez
Remember that tornado in that first Battlefield?
Mike Howard
Sick. Only Battlefield moments, bro. Battlefield. There's something there.
Andy Cortez
You and me and Bruce sat there for our preview event. It was blowing up and played a total of eight minutes or something. It was a disaster. That was over the pandemic. It was. It was a tough, different time.
Mike Howard
Yeah, I'm blown away that they didn't choose on Battlefield to swap that with a Titanfall 3 and have those teams work on it.
Andy Cortez
Right.
Mike Howard
And like figure that out. Right. Or going back to Disney and trying to get a license for Star wars and figuring that out and trying to make that good again after how bad that one went. So yeah, it's just a. EA has an interesting range of shooters that you could choose from and try to make good and be great, but they. They've missed the mark a couple of times.
Andy Cortez
As somebody who wants to take the last word on this, lay it on me on this argument. It's also possible, Andrew Wilson, CEO of ea, that you know, you still want to make your audience happy and get rid of cheaters. Of course you want to do that work and put in the work to make your product good. It's also possible that you just continue to make money and put out content for the game that has 73,000 fucking people playing on PC only, not counting console. And you just go, we have a successful multiplayer game. Let's just keep doing that. Let's just be happy with it. Fuck, man. Why? I just.
Mike Howard
Andy. It's big business, big dollars, big dog. They can't do that.
Andy Cortez
Throw them on a volcano, bro. Big business. Jesus Christ, dude. Next story. Bloodborne PSX demake hit by a copyright claim this story comes from Michael Herodins at PSU. Bloodborne's fan made PSX DeMake project has been hit by copyright claim by Markscan Entertainment following last week's news that Lance McDonald's Bloodborne 60 frame per second patch had been struck down by Sony DMCA takedown notice. In response, McDonnell revealed that the marks that Markscan were hired by Sony Interactive Entertainment and are the same company that quote DMCA my page about the Bloodborne 60 frame per second patch and now they've DMCA'd an old video about the Bloodborne PSX demake project. That's pretty wild. What the hell are they doing? End quote. However, the model suggested that Sony could in fact be working on an official Bloodborne 60 frame per second update or a more ambitious remake in what he describes as his Copium theory. And it's all Copium at this point because it's all happening because in my heart of hearts there's going to be a February state of play or showcase or some. It's in my heart of hearts, I saw it in a dream. And all of these DMCAs are happening at the perfect time.
Mike Howard
Because why?
Andy Cortez
Because Bloodborne is getting announced in some big major way, everybody. Ok, we are returning to Yharnam now. Here's the thing and here's what I don't fully understand about the whole. The mod conversation has already happened. Right? Like we, we. It's weird. I don't get it because the mod. I still use my purchased copy of Bloodborne to use the mod.
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
I'm not pirating something, you know, like, okay, there's a emulator out there kind of doing so. But you run into the, like how. How the lawyers try to take down emulators and, and ROMs. And I shouldn't even be saying that because I feel like I'm alerting people. But like, obviously people know. People know, right?
Mike Howard
Okay.
Andy Cortez
It's weird to me that. That the mod gets taken down. It's weird to me that something like this D make project gets taken down as well.
Mike Howard
What happened to the CART racer? They took that one down right too when they stopped that.
Andy Cortez
No, the car racer, I think. I thought they unlisted it themselves or.
Roger
Yeah, they changed the name. Yeah, they changed it. Yeah, it's the same thing. But they, you know, change the character. Yeah, they just were being proactive about it.
Andy Cortez
I. It's just. It's fascinating because there's. I think there are a lot of things that could be taken down and this just seems like too coincidental. This seems weird and odd that they would go after these things, these sort of like. I, I just. It doesn't feel very Sony. It feels very Nintendo. Obviously see Nintendo do this a million damn times. The timing just feels way too. It's like they're trying to with us. Like they're only. They don't care about actually taking down the stuff. They're just trying to with us. They don't care about taking these things down because it's not Going to hurt the bottom line. They just want to mess with our heads that, like, maybe something's on the way.
Mike Howard
Game came out in 2015, still has the juice to this day. It's got an energy right now, too. In 2025. There's an energy around Bloodborne.
Andy Cortez
It's, it's, it's.
Mike Howard
It's crazy.
Andy Cortez
Ten years, it's the closest thing to, like, Mother three or Half Life three, you know, like, there's no. There's no other thing that kind of gets the groundswell of excitement going.
Mike Howard
Like, bloodboard. Yeah.
Andy Cortez
And it's just so wild that again, I've talked it to death. God damn. I just feel like I'm a broken record at this point. But it's like, dude, you, Elden Ring being this massive breakout success. Not that the Dark Souls franchise were never that big, but they were never Elden Ring big. Elden Ring being during the pandemic, being like the big single that hit radio waves, and everybody was like, holy shit, 25 million sold, whatever the hell, and you're sitting on one of the best projects that they've ever made. And it's yours. It's your baby. And on the flip side of it, you know, I recall some old tweets of Gene park talking and even listening to the. The Shuhei interview with Greg. And it does. It does to me. It. To me, it feels like maybe the Demon Souls remake turned some people off at Fromsoft and Sony was like, our bad. We're not gonna do anything unless you tell. We don't want to piss you off.
Mike Howard
We shouldn't have done.
Andy Cortez
Let's stay friends, okay? We don't want to, you know, bum you out and kind of tarnish this. Tarnish. We don't want to tarnish this relationship. So we'll only do stuff if you're cool with it. And I think Fromsoft is just too.
Mike Howard
Busy and they're like, yeah, we're busy. That's right.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. And be like, yeah, we'll get to it one day soon or whatever. And Sony's just like, well, we're not gonna do it without you all because we don't want to make you mad and hurt. Possible future partnerships and relationships.
Mike Howard
Okay?
Andy Cortez
Foul, tarnished. Can you put some reverb on that, please? Thank you, Roger.
Roger
It's done. I did it.
Andy Cortez
Thank you.
Mike Howard
Wow.
Roger
Did it really quick.
Andy Cortez
Anyway, I hope for you and the.
Mike Howard
Fan base out there that we do get one day a sweet remaster or even a 60 frames per second patch.
Andy Cortez
Gosh, I take Us there, you know. I hope so, Mike. That would be massive. But I'm tired.
Mike Howard
Skip that.
Roger
I was.
Andy Cortez
I just. When we were running.
Mike Howard
Okay, fine.
Andy Cortez
Put it added to we got it to WE News.
Mike Howard
They got it. We added.
Andy Cortez
It was so big. But Mike, it was like you were going yard. But I'm tired of all the big news. If I wanted something smaller, say the tiniest news I need to know about, where would I go?
Mike Howard
And I would force you to go on over to the weed news channel where we cover all the small news items you need to know about.
Andy Cortez
First news item on the WE News segment. MLB. The show 25 takes you back to high school on PS5 and it adds a board game mode. Mike.
Mike Howard
Yes. A roguelike board game mode. We'll talk about that one as well. I mean, we'll go more. More in depth I guess later on in another one. But we'll keep it short. High school and college with the metal bats, the chain link fences in the background.
Andy Cortez
Oh my God.
Mike Howard
Updated franchise mode. Of course you will see storylines mode return, which is very cool. Three cover athletes. They have more quick time events during play to kind of add more kind of engagement while you're playing. So that's really exciting. I saw this and I was like, oh, I didn't know MLB the show was bringing it like that this year. So I liked everything that they announced. First person mode.
Andy Cortez
I haven't seen first person in baseball games since like MLB something. I forget what year it was.
Mike Howard
That's crazy. So I'm sure we'll talk about this later on. But I will tell you, I saw this and I was like, this is all exciting.
Andy Cortez
I. I love it. I definitely love the gameplay elements of give me more quick time stuff to make things less automated.
Mike Howard
Yes.
Andy Cortez
I like, I want the skill involved of trying to make the accurate throw to maybe.
Mike Howard
Look at this one. You're gonna swim over the tag.
Andy Cortez
Oh, nice.
Mike Howard
Swim over the tag. That's pretty cool.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. Just, you know, let me live out my dream of the Braves getting back. Freddie Freeman.
Mike Howard
Oh my God. And high school and college ball. They even have the college World Series stadium that they showed off there. I'm surprised.
Andy Cortez
I just hate the Dodgers bank.
Roger
We gotta stop with three cover athletes though. We gotta choose one.
Mike Howard
Just choose one.
Roger
We don't. We don't need.
Mike Howard
There's so many people to recognize, man.
Roger
It's a cop out. It's a cop out.
Mike Howard
People to recognize, man. He's dating Libby Dunn.
Andy Cortez
I know. Wait, is he? Yeah, the one who almost rizzed up.
Mike Howard
That's Baby Gronk.
Andy Cortez
But didn't Livy almost ris up Baby Grunk?
Mike Howard
Yeah, well, that's a long time ago. They've moved on.
Roger
Oh, dude, I heard that name and.
Andy Cortez
I was like, where the do I know that because of that?
Roger
You're so right. Was raised up Baby Gronk.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, that was a weird one. From Game Ministry Biz. Netflix has canceled six games as part of their plans to adjust its portfolio. This means Compass Point West, Thirsty Suitors, and Tales of the Shire. A Lord of the Rings game will now no longer join the streamer's gaming library. Don't Starve Together. Lab Rat and Rotwood, all developed by Clay Entertainment, will also not be coming to Netflix. Most of the titles will proceed with launches on other platforms such as Steam or Nintendo Switch.
Mike Howard
Damn, what they got going on over there at Netflix?
Andy Cortez
What's going on? What's going on? Marvel vs Capcom finding collection Arcade Classics is now available on Xbox one. Already on PS4 and Nintendo Switch and PC. And Rec Fest 2 comes to PC early access on March 20th.
Mike Howard
You ever play that? No, just demolition derby.
Andy Cortez
The cars.
Mike Howard
Yeah, that kind of stuff.
Andy Cortez
Give me back to San Francisco. Like, here's I wish when I was playing Forza I could just turn off or turn down gravity mode. Just let me send my car and just see it fly.
Mike Howard
And just like San Francisco Rush 2049.
Andy Cortez
When you were flying, bro, they had the stunt tracks. That was just like a skate park.
Mike Howard
Pretty much, bro.
Andy Cortez
A neon skate park. It was great. All right, that's all for weenies.
Mike Howard
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Let's get to some super chats. Mike, lay it on me. And following that, we'll get to the. You're wrong. Remember, you can go to kind offunny.com you're wrong. This is also what we got wrong in the show. I think I got maybe one thing wrong. Probably. I got zero minimum super chat from Tyler Wallace. Tyler, who says rooster teeth purchase feels like smash. Buying themselves back feels good. Yeah, exactly.
Mike Howard
You brought that up.
Andy Cortez
Exactly. Yeah. Rowley with a two dollar super chat says, how does it feel to host with your best friend Lucky who Every.
Mike Howard
Day is a beautiful day when I get to be around Andy Cortez.
Andy Cortez
Jeff Bull Jr. Says Andy Favorite gum. It's a great question. Let's see here.
Mike Howard
What do you think?
Andy Cortez
You know, I wish.
Roger
I wish.
Andy Cortez
What are you, 80?
Roger
What, you don't like the. The crispy shell?
Andy Cortez
I mean, I do, but not dentine. What the.
Roger
What other. What do you. What orbits the.
Andy Cortez
You eating?
Mike Howard
I Was smacking some Big League, too.
Andy Cortez
Oh, I love Big League too.
Mike Howard
Last night.
Andy Cortez
God damn children. I love it. Dude, you just packed so much on your bottom lip. Just feel your. Feel your. Your gum disease on the way. Absolutely. You know, I wish the technology there was was there to improve Juicy Fruit, because I think Juicy Fruit is probably one of my favorite tasting ones. But it lasts about seven seconds.
Mike Howard
Yeah. Do you find yourself just reaching for either peppermint winter fresh spearmint. What's the normal go to? I go mix it up.
Andy Cortez
I don't go. I don't go with the white. I don't go with the green. I go with the teal.
Mike Howard
Teal blue. Yeah, I like that. I like that.
Andy Cortez
Probably the best, like, you know, variation of it or the best combination of all of them. Andy, you're an adult. You can't be eating Juicy Fruit. What? What? Juicy Fruit only advertises like 10 year olds or what. You can eat any gum you want. Argue with the wall waffle. We have another super chat from Gerardo. Is cool, says Andy. What's your go to snack loadout while gaming, Mike? Same question. Also, how's the yams doing? Keep on keeping on. Thank you. Gerardo go to snack. It's been reduced fat, Cheez. Its for a while. Really crispy.
Mike Howard
What's your drink of choice with that? You got to have something to wash that down.
Andy Cortez
Coke Zero all day.
Mike Howard
It's kind of dry.
Andy Cortez
Coke Zero all day, every day.
Mike Howard
I like that.
Andy Cortez
I saw a great tweet from I forgot who but saying that Coke Zero is the millennial cigarette. Maybe it was Alex Van Aken. I'm not sure.
Mike Howard
That's cool.
Roger
Diet Coke.
Mike Howard
Just smoking darts outside.
Andy Cortez
I just. Man. Cz, man.
Mike Howard
I'm just sipping it. I'm smacking a vanilla frappuccino, and then I'm moving right on to Ghirardelli chocolate squares with caramel in the middle.
Andy Cortez
Nice. Eat big, be big. Don't laugh, Roger.
Mike Howard
Me and Roger gonna have beef in the parking lot.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. What the. Is gonna.
Mike Howard
Watch out.
Roger
He parks in the wrong spot. Then every time I say, hey, that's not your spot, he's like, oh, I thought that was my spot. Slap you, Mike.
Andy Cortez
I didn't know we had spots. I mean.
Roger
Well, him and I have spots. Only. Only him and I have spots. We've established this.
Andy Cortez
Kevin has a spot as well.
Mike Howard
Kevin's got a spot.
Andy Cortez
You park too close to Nick's car, he'll let you know about it. It's a whole.
Mike Howard
Oh, that's a Big deal.
Roger
Actually, we have. All of us don't have spots. Only Nick has a spot. And then we work around it.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, the other day when he. He was like. He mentioned Kevin parking too close, and I was like, you know, normally, Nick, I'd give you because I think you're way too sensitive about the car stuff, but Kevin, I get it. Love you, Kev. Love you, big dog. Let's get to the super or let's get to you're wrong kind of dot com. You're wrong.
Roger
You got one more super chat from Chris Anka.
Andy Cortez
Oh, oh, let's see here. From Chris Anka. I didn't see that one.
Roger
Wait, just came in. Just came in. You want me to read it?
Andy Cortez
Yeah, please.
Roger
I don't see it here says Andy. I remember what you did last night.
Mike Howard
Not pleased with the rankings.
Andy Cortez
Not pleased with my winter.
Mike Howard
Tune in tomorrow.
Andy Cortez
You'll see you tomorrow for the big MCU re rank. We're finally doing things mathematically. Thank God. That'll be on Patreon Live for y'all and Friday for everybody else. Frankie B. With a you're wrong. I'm not gonna read that. You can go yourself to hell, Frankie B. Oh, because he's an Eagles fan, so.
Mike Howard
Oh, okay.
Andy Cortez
I wish the worst of. For all of them kebabs with another with a you're wrong. Which is echoing one of the super chats from earlier about the 2017 Switch presentation, Dirty Daddy. I'm not going to read your message either, because just think about how funny was in Thor Love and Thunder when the ax would get jealous of Thor being really attracted to Mjolnir every time that ax would come. Always funny as man. And. And that's it for now.
Mike Howard
Oh, that's nice.
Andy Cortez
Thank you, everybody for joining us for this episode of Kind of Funny Games Daily. Appreciate y'all hanging out with us. Stay tuned after this for the Gamescast, where they'll be talking about WWE 2K. WWE 2K.
Mike Howard
Greg got hands on.
Andy Cortez
Greg's gonna talk about hands on. And Roger will be sitting here, apparently. Maybe I will have to wait.
Mike Howard
Will you ask him about the island for us, please?
Andy Cortez
About the island.
Mike Howard
Ask about the island.
Roger
I will.
Andy Cortez
Until the next time, it's been our pleasure to serve.
Kinda Funny Games Daily: Video Games News Podcast
Episode: Rooster Teeth is Back! - Kinda Funny Games Daily 02.05.25
Release Date: February 5, 2025
Hosts: Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Tim Gettys, Blessing Adeoye Jr., Andy Cortez, Mike Howard, Roger
Overview:
The episode kicks off with exhilarating news about Rooster Teeth's return. Bernie Burns, the original founder, has reacquired the beloved entertainment brand through his company, Box Canyon Productions. This acquisition marks a significant milestone, signaling a new chapter focused on innovation, community engagement, and creativity.
Key Points:
Acquisition Details:
Bernie Burns has officially taken back control of Rooster Teeth, aiming to rejuvenate the brand’s original mission. The press release emphasizes a renewed dedication to entertainment and community-driven content.
Future Plans:
Box Canyon Productions plans to revive classic shows, introduce new original content, and possibly develop an untitled reimagining of Burns’ first film.
Community Impact:
The acquisition is expected to rekindle the collaborative spirit that made Rooster Teeth a pioneer in digital entertainment.
Notable Quotes:
Host Reactions:
Mike Howard: Expressed excitement about the potential return of familiar faces and the possibility of new creative directions under Burns’ leadership. (Timestamp: 12:55)
Andy Cortez: Shared his enthusiasm for seeing the original personalities return and stressed the importance of maintaining the brand’s authentic voice. (Timestamp: 15:37)
Community Engagement:
Hosts encouraged listeners to share their thoughts via super chats, reflecting a strong community interest in Rooster Teeth’s revival.
Overview:
The podcast transitions to discussing Nintendo's announcement of the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct, scheduled for Wednesday, April 2nd, at 6:00 AM Pacific Time. The early timing has sparked frustration among West Coast listeners.
Key Points:
Direct Schedule:
Community Concerns:
Expectations:
Notable Quotes:
Host Predictions:
Mike Howard: Speculated that the Direct would likely cover hardware details followed by major game announcements, potentially extending the presentation to around 30 minutes. (Timestamp: 21:00)
Roger: Suggested that the Direct might need to be comprehensive given the hype, potentially extending beyond the usual 20 minutes to accommodate detailed reveals. (Timestamp: 23:13)
Overview:
A significant portion of the episode delves into EA's evolving strategy for Apex Legends. CEO Andrew Wilson hinted at a possible sequel, referred to as "Apex 2.0," aiming to inject new life into the franchise while addressing past challenges.
Key Points:
Earnings Call Insights:
Challenges Faced:
Potential Directions:
Notable Quotes:
Host Discussions:
Andy Cortez: Expressed skepticism about the success of an Apex sequel, citing historical challenges with live service-driven games and emphasizing the need for meaningful innovation. (Timestamp: 47:30)
Mike Howard: Highlighted the difficulty in replicating the initial success of Apex Legends and the importance of maintaining the core gameplay while introducing new elements. (Timestamp: 46:19)
Community Reflection: The hosts compared Apex Legends’ situation with other franchises, pondering whether a sequel could capture the same magic as Titanfall or if it would dilute the brand.
Overview:
The podcast covers the contentious issue of Sony DMCAing fan-made projects related to Bloodborne, raising questions about intellectual property rights and fan creativity.
Key Points:
Fan Projects Targeted:
Speculations and Reactions:
Notable Quotes:
Host Opinions:
Andy Cortez: Criticized Sony's aggressive stance, advocating for more support of fan projects and expressing frustration over the inability to enjoy mods without legal repercussions. (Timestamp: 60:53)
Mike Howard: Speculated that Sony might be hinting at official updates, drawing parallels with previous actions against fan creations. (Timestamp: 59:56)
Community Impact: Listeners are left pondering the future of Bloodborne and the potential for an official remaster versus continued restrictions on fan-made enhancements.
MLB The Show 25:
Notable Quotes:
Netflix Gaming Cancellations:
Canceled Titles:
Developer Response:
The affected titles will launch on other platforms like Steam and Nintendo Switch, indicating a strategic portfolio adjustment by Netflix.
Notable Quotes:
Rec Fest 2 and Other Releases:
Notable Quotes:
Throughout the episode, hosts interacted with super chats from listeners, addressing various topics ranging from favorite snacks and gaming preferences to personal anecdotes.
Notable Interactions:
Snack Preferences:
Personal Stories:
Humorous Segments:
Notable Quotes:
Gamescast Preview:
Closing Remarks:
Final Thoughts:
This episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily provided a comprehensive overview of major gaming news, with in-depth discussions on Rooster Teeth's return, the highly anticipated Nintendo Switch 2 Direct, EA's strategy for Apex Legends, and the controversies surrounding Bloodborne fan projects. The hosts effectively balanced news delivery with personal anecdotes and interactive segments, ensuring an engaging experience for both regular listeners and newcomers.
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