Where Are The Nintendo Switch 2 Pre-Orders?! - Kinda Funny Games Daily 04.17.25

Summary

Kinda Funny Games Daily: Video Games News Podcast Episode: Where Are The Nintendo Switch 2 Pre-Orders?!
Release Date: April 17, 2025
Hosts: Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Tim Gettys, and Blessing Adeoye Jr.

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1. Opening Banter and Personal Stories

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their trademark lighthearted banter. Greg shares a nostalgic and humorous story about their pet hedgehog's first birthday during the pandemic, highlighting the unexpected challenges they faced. As Bless commends Greg's seamless segues into the show, the camaraderie among the hosts sets an engaging tone for the day's discussions.

2. Mario Kart World Direct: New Features and Lack of Switch 2 Pre-Order Information

Timestamp: [05:14 - 16:04]

The primary focus of the episode revolves around the latest Nintendo Direct centered on Mario Kart World. Greg and Tim delve into the new features unveiled, including:

• New Courses: Retro-themed Mario Brothers Circuit, Urban Crown City, canal-based Salty Salty Speedway, snowy Starview Peak, and the haunted Boo Cinema.

• New Items: Introduction of the Coin Shop Shell, Ice Flower, Hammer, and Kamek items, each adding fresh dynamics to the gameplay.

• Gameplay Enhancements: An increased emphasis on coins, now allowing up to 20 per race, and more coin-related items influence competitive strategies.

Greg remarks, “The focus on coins seems to be much higher in this game than in previous games” (06:30), indicating a shift in gameplay mechanics that might require players to adapt their strategies.

Despite the excitement around Mario Kart World, the hosts express disappointment over the absence of pre-order information for the highly anticipated Nintendo Switch 2. Greg states, “I did not expect the preorder information here. I think that's a different beat and I do think that that's a disappointing beat” (15:06). This omission has sparked confusion and frustration among the gaming community, as fans eagerly await details on the next-generation console.

3. Xbox’s Continued Support for Nintendo: Phil Spencer’s Endorsement

Timestamp: [34:09 - 38:18]

In a surprising development, Phil Spencer, Xbox's head of gaming, reiterated Microsoft's ongoing support for Nintendo platforms, emphasizing the strategic partnership. Spencer stated, “Nintendo's been a great partner. We think it's a unique way for us to reach players who aren't on PC, players who aren't Xbox” (34:27).

Greg and Tim discuss the lack of new Xbox game announcements for the Switch 2, noting the absence of titles they expected. Greg muses, “What was surprising is no Xbox games at all in that Switch to direction” (35:52). This raises questions about the extent of Microsoft's investment in the Switch 2 ecosystem, despite their verbal support.

4. Nintendo Switch 2 VRR Mentions Removed: Potential Implications

Timestamp: [40:19 - 43:22]

A concerning development surfaced when mentions of Variable Refresh Rates (VRR) were removed from several regional Nintendo websites following the Switch 2 reveal. Greg explains, “Nintendo seemingly removed mentions of VRR from several websites... Variable refresh rates allow supported TVs to display unconventional frame rates in order to provide a smoother experience” (40:19).

This retraction has led to speculation about potential hardware or compatibility issues with the new console. While VGC’s Oliver McKenzie notes that VRR was still present on the European site at the time, the inconsistency across regions suggests possible last-minute changes or oversights by Nintendo.

5. Final Fantasy XV Director on Release Delay: Acknowledging the Misstep

Timestamp: [45:36 - 48:10]

Switching gears, the podcast addresses comments from Hajime Tama, Final Fantasy XV’s director, who admitted that choosing an initial release date that was too ambitious led to significant delays. Tim highlights the gravity of the situation, “Final Fantasy 15 director... says that choosing an initial release date for Final Fantasy 15 that was too early leading to them delay the game was a massive mess up” (46:17).

Greg reflects nostalgically on the delay's impact, recalling their involvement in the initial announcement and the subsequent fallout when the game was postponed from September to November 2016. He muses, “I often think about how Final Fantasy 15 was so close to being amazing” (47:41), underscoring the delicate balance between project timelines and development quality.

6. PlayStation Plus Price Hikes in Canada: Subscriber Concerns

Timestamp: [48:09 - 49:36]

The hosts discuss the recent announcement of PlayStation Plus price increases in Canada. Subscribers have been informed that starting June 24th, the 12-month PlayStation Plus Essential subscription will rise from $95 to $110, and other tiers like PS Plus Extra and Premium see similar hikes. Greg expresses frustration, “I really hate it. I get it, it's not that complicated” (48:44).

This marks the second price increase since 2023, causing concern among Canadian gamers about the affordability and value of the subscription service amidst an already volatile economic landscape. Tim adds, “We're on the ride. Everything's going on the ride” (49:36), highlighting broader economic pressures influencing such decisions.

7. Ubisoft’s New Battle Royale Inspired by Apex Legends: Scout Project

Timestamp: [50:00 - 55:35]

In a noteworthy revelation, Ubisoft is developing a new Battle Royale game, codenamed Scout, heavily inspired by Respawn Entertainment’s Apex Legends. Tom Henderson from Insider Gaming reports, “the game, which is currently under the project name of Scout, is so heavily inspired by Respawn Entertainment's highly successful Apex Legends” (50:10).

Despite internal research teams questioning the longevity of the Battle Royale genre, Ubisoft seems determined to capture the remaining market share by mimicking the successful elements of Apex Legends. Greg humorously critiques the strategy, “They figured it out. Let's copy Apex Legends” (51:02), pondering whether this move will differentiate Ubisoft in a saturated market.

8. Listener Interactions and Community Engagement

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listeners through Super Chats, addressing questions and comments. Notably, they discuss potential price ceilings for the Switch 2, with Greg speculating, “I don't think they changed the price for launch and I do think that gives them the wiggle room later” (24:28), while Bless shares his personal pricing boundaries, anticipating a $600 rollout.

Listeners also share their concerns and curiosities about game features and upcoming releases, fostering a sense of community and active participation in the podcast’s discourse.

9. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Content

As the episode wraps up, the hosts tease upcoming reactions to the Fantastic Four trailer and their WrestleMania predictions. Greg mentions plans for a Schedule 1 stream with Joey and the team, ensuring listeners have continuous content to look forward to.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Greg Miller: “I just didn't expect to see those three words.” (00:00)
• Blessing Adeoye Jr.: “It's always impressive that you're able to, like, sneak it in right before I hit the intro.” (02:17)
• Tim Gettys: “I want to tell you I haven't been on a show with you, I think, since it became part of your rigamarole.” (00:33)
• Phil Spencer (Quoted): “Nintendo's been a great partner. We think it's a unique way for us to reach players who aren't on PC, players who aren't Xbox.” (34:27)
• Hajime Tama (Quoted): “When you delay the release of a game, of a major game like Final Fantasy 15, it really does cause trouble in a lot of places.” (46:14)
• Greg Miller: “I don't think they changed the price for launch and I do think that gives them the wiggle room later.” (24:28)
• Blessing Adeoye Jr.: “I, I believe that yes, they want to put their best foot forward.” (25:04)
• Tim Gettys: “They could have sword fight and even draw your firearms against others. Cool.” (54:23)

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Conclusion

This episode of Kinda Funny Games Daily provides an in-depth exploration of the latest developments in the gaming industry, from exciting updates on Mario Kart World and the anticipated Nintendo Switch 2 to strategic moves by major players like Xbox and Ubisoft. The hosts navigate through the complexities of console partnerships, pricing strategies, and game development challenges with their characteristic humor and insightful commentary. Whether discussing the frustrations surrounding pre-order information or the implications of price hikes, Greg, Tim, and Bless deliver a comprehensive and engaging summary of the current gaming landscape.

Transcript

[Greg Miller]

Today's stories include everything from the Mario Kart World Direct. Phil Spencer says Nintendo has been a great partner. And a big Switch 2 feature disappears from Nintendo's website. Of all this and more because this is kind of funny Games Daily. Bill Spencer says Nintendo's been a great partner. Got me. I just didn't expect to see three those words.

[Tim Gettys]

It happens, you know?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Phil's gonna say.

[Greg Miller]

What?

[Tim Gettys]

Phil's gonna say.

[Greg Miller]

I get it. How you doing, Greg?

[Tim Gettys]

I'm great. How, Tim?

[Greg Miller]

I'm really, really good.

[Tim Gettys]

I want to tell you I haven't been on a show with you, I think, since it became part of your rigamarole of the. I like that.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, I've been to. I mean, I can't stop doing it, but, I mean, it's like anytime I.

[Tim Gettys]

Cold open, you just don't lead. When I'm on often, I guess I think that's how you.

[Greg Miller]

That's probably what it is.

[Tim Gettys]

So I hear it when I listen to the show or watch the show.

[Greg Miller]

But I can't stop myself.

[Tim Gettys]

It's good.

[Greg Miller]

Like, I don't know that it's good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's always impressive that you're able to, like, sneak it in right before I hit the intro, you know, like, we've never rehearsed that. Like, it's just. You're just so good at it.

[Greg Miller]

It's just inside of me. Everybody. Welcome to Kind of Funny Games daily for Thursday, April 17, 2025. We're 10 days away from Greg Miller's birthday. What is this, 42?

[Tim Gettys]

42?

[Greg Miller]

42, yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

April 27, right around the corner.

[Greg Miller]

That's nuts.

[Tim Gettys]

More importantly, April 25, right around the corner, that's my birthday stream. We're going to play Monster Hunter and do the spring event. I'm very excited.

[Greg Miller]

Moose's birthday is also your birthday, which bothers me because I want to celebrate both of you separately. You know what I mean?

[Tim Gettys]

No, I think it's, you know, it's so rare that. That we're together. Like, you know, if. If it's a weekday, then my birthday, something's happening here. You know what I mean? So I like that when we're not together and you just have a day for Moose, it's also a day for me.

[Greg Miller]

That's true. That is true. I often have days for you. Greg, what are you doing with Moose.

[Tim Gettys]

For his birthday on in 10 days?

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I don't know, but years ago, when he. It was his first birthday.

[Tim Gettys]

Is this his adoption day or is this like. No, this is actual Birthday.

[Greg Miller]

Birthday. Yeah. Adoption day was July 3rd.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

But yeah, when he was turning one, this was like in the pandemic 2020, we were gonna like throw home a birthday party at the park and everyone's gonna bring their dogs and it was gonna be a whole thing. And he has his little hedgehog that like he loves so much. And we made a cake. That was the hedgehog. It was very exciting. And then we got rained out and it never happened. And then that the hedgehog we put in the freezer and we forgot about it for years.

[Tim Gettys]

No way.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Wow. So there you find.

[Greg Miller]

No, eventually we got rid of it. But yeah, it was just a joke.

[Tim Gettys]

Giant blue hedgehog, Best laid plans of mice and men. You know.

[Greg Miller]

My God. Everyone, this is kind of Funny Games daily, each and every weekday we run you through all of the video game news that you need to know about. Live on YouTube and Twitch, later on podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon, YouTube and now Spotify and Apple podcasts. Get all of our shows ad free. Watch us do them and you get a daily exclusive. Greg Way. What's that today Greg?

[Tim Gettys]

Today's Greg Way everybody is me talking to you about how and when we should re review the Outer worlds as we get ready of course for the big sgf not I think officially connected but Xbox showcase followed by The Outer Worlds 2 direct. That game is coming this year still apparently we got to get vibe but when's a good point in the calendar to do it? Is it right now?

[Greg Miller]

We talk about all this rough times here. A little housekeeping for you. We are an 11 person business all about live talk shows. You just got our Mario Kart world direct, live reaction and also the kind of funny games cast breakdown of everything that we saw. So if you want even more details about everything you can get bless Andy, me and Greg's thoughts on all that stuff and Barrett too. He chimes in quite a bit as one of our Mario Kart sickos. The stream after this is going to be schedule one.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't like that face. Don't do that face.

[Greg Miller]

Which is going to be great. That is I, I, Joey, Nick and Mike are going to become drug dealers. Oh and then if you're a kind of funny member, you get today's Greg Way. That's all about O Dub. Then thank you to our Patreon producers, Anatoly Asked, Delaney Twin and Carl Jacobs and Omega Buster. Today we are brought to you by Imperial Factor. And Shady Rays. But we'll tell you all about that later. For now, let's bring with what is and forever will be the Roper report. Time for no seven stories today, Baker. Dozens.

[Tim Gettys]

It might be eight stories. What the fuck? What the fuck?

[Greg Miller]

No. You're giving me the face that Bless gave me when last of US 2 was delayed.

[Tim Gettys]

This might be a bigger problem.

[Greg Miller]

Fuck.

[Tim Gettys]

Joey Noel slacks me goes omg Monster Hunter now premium pass activated. Because I hit them up wanting to get free premium passes and she says thank you and I open mine and I do not have the premium pass. They only activated, Joey. They didn't activate me.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, look at this.

[Tim Gettys]

Cute.

[Greg Miller]

I thought that Nintendo delayed the Switch.

[Tim Gettys]

I want this outfit right there. It's the kulu motif, layered chest. I want that for my character. I'll give it a second. Maybe they're doing it like rolling them out. Maybe I'll shut down the app and restart. Maybe.

[Greg Miller]

Barrett. At least it's not officially delayed yet. You know what I mean? There's still hope it'll happen.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It'll get delayed. It'll get a price bump. 150 bucks probably.

[Greg Miller]

God. Story number one. Mario Kart World Direct shares new info, including new courses, outfits and items. This comes from Chris Scullion at VGC Super Chat. Question for you. Are you surprised about the lack of Switch to pre order info in this Nintendo Direct, the follow up to the Switch 2's big blowout? Nintendo has shared more information on Mario Kart World's various features and modes. Let me just take a second to say something, Greg, because I don't think I've had the time on any show to say this. What a great name for this Mario Kart game.

[Tim Gettys]

What a great name that somehow we didn't guess.

[Greg Miller]

It's insane.

[Tim Gettys]

We were sitting there, none of us thought, Mario Kart World, we're idiots.

[Greg Miller]

And the moment they revealed, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Very cool.

[Greg Miller]

Good for them. In a new Nintendo Direct focus solely on the game, Nintendo revealed some of the game's new courses, including the retro themed Mario Brothers Circuit, the Urban Crown City, the canal based Salty Salty Speedway, the snowy Starview Peak, and a new haunted course, Boo Cinema, that looked awesome. New items set to feature in the game include the coin shop shell, which fires ahead, leaving coins behind, the ice Flower, which freezes enemies, the hammer, which flies in an arc and wedges into the ground for a while, causing chaos for the other drivers. And Kamek, which transforms opponents just like in Yoshi's Island.

[Tim Gettys]

I thought the hammer was super cool.

[Greg Miller]

It is. It is.

[Tim Gettys]

And had you already seen this? You saw it in your.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I got to play with all these items. And one thing that I didn't bring up in the. In our direct breakdown was the focus on coin seems to be much higher in this game than in previous games.

[Tim Gettys]

So is it going to do more than, like, the mini speed boost?

[Greg Miller]

You think it's still. It's still doing that, but it just seems like that stuff matters a bit more. I think maybe just with the 24 characters just having more. It's like the little. Specifically, Knockout Tour, like, we've been saying that every lap, quote, unquote, feels like the final lap. It feels like, oh, man, this is the. We. We got to get it. Because you get knocked out otherwise. Right.

[Tim Gettys]

And this is the one where you lost ign.

[Greg Miller]

Yes, it is embarrassing, but I think that the little coin boosts are going to matter more because of that, where it's like, every second of the race means more.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So in addition to that, in older Mario Karts, you can get up to 10 coins. You get up to 20 now. And there seems to be more items and stuff based around coins, like. Like this coin block being an example of that, or coin shell. So. And there's more. Way more coin blocks, actually, that you can hit in the level. So I don't know. Like, they. I thought they were going to break a little more down into that in this direction. They didn't. But for my limited experience, I think coins are going to matter a bit more.

[Tim Gettys]

I know we kind of talked about this, but we were talking more about, okay, we want. What some people wanted out of this direct was why this game is worth $80. Deep dives into that. We talked a little bit about the open world, and is there. How much more could there possibly be where. What you just said. Right. With coins and this. That the other. Eliminate the $80 question. Eliminate the content questions.

[Greg Miller]

Sorry, $80.

[Tim Gettys]

It is a lot of coins. My question to you is, do you think there's a lot more under the hood mechanically that we're going to have to learn? Are we going to have to relearn? Do you feel like, you know, I'm a compared to y'all? Right. I'm a. I'm a what? Barrett, you tell me how good at Mario Kart I am. I'm not. I'm not. You and Tim, I know that you're good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Did you take me back to that? You and Ziger, did you win out of them?

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You're good.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You're good.

[Tim Gettys]

So it's like. But I, I never. I. You and Tim consume and play Mario Kart a different level. You're. You are pros and I'm amateur pro or something that.

[Greg Miller]

I wouldn't even say that. I think that me and you are. Are in the same league.

[Tim Gettys]

You guys are main eventers.

[Greg Miller]

Ok, I'm a curtain jerker.

[Tim Gettys]

All right. I'm on the show.

[Greg Miller]

I've never heard that.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh really? When you open the show, you jerk the curtain.

[Greg Miller]

It's not.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't mean in a weird perverted way.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I thought you meant you were jerking off a curtain or jerking off into.

[Tim Gettys]

A curtain hanging brain and jerking the current thing.

[Greg Miller]

He wasn't even on camera, man. That's insane.

[Tim Gettys]

No, I'm not a jobber, Marquis. That's what I'm saying. I'm still on the show. I'm just opening the show. Anyways, it doesn't matter. My question is back to it. Are there a lot of new mechanics and strategies and things like that we're gonna have to learn?

[Greg Miller]

Yes and no. Like I was saying, like in my limited time playing this it in all the right ways felt like Mario Kart 8. The drifting felt very similar. Just the way the jump felt like all of that stuff felt like Mario Kart 8, which is perfect. There are the grinding on rails. There is now the charged super jump thing. That stuff is going to dramatically change shortcuts and especially in it seems like a lot of these maps are. I, I do wonder if a couple years from now we're going to have these maps memorized in our brains and just muscle memory as much as we have in the past or is because it's so free roam. There's so many different like options in the. That mixes of a knockout Tour. Is it always just going to kind of feel like a fresh, almost procedurally generated type of situation? And I think then mechanically that might change how we play the game. You know what I mean? Like the way we're focusing on shortcuts might not be. Oh, I know a shortcut is here we. I need to save a mushroom so I have the ability to make the jump in this specific place. And it's more just like a. At any moment I need to be prepared to be able to jump over a chasm because you know, okay, I have enough speed to get over there if I. Whatever you get. I'm saying like it's a minor difference there, but I do think it'll dramatically change like the gameplay or the. The pro Strats the meta, if you will. Okay, Yeah, I think you're gonna be fine. You're gonna get your hands on these sticks and you're gonna.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, I was just wondering how much. Yeah, like, you know, the deep dives, the YouTube videos, the treehouse directs, you're gonna get of coins have changed this and this that the other. Now when you do this, you should do that. Or if it is gonna be no, no, we're all gonna. You know what you're doing, you know what you're doing. There'll be something to learn, but not crazy.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I think it'll be. I think you said this during the reaction, but like, we know what this game is.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You know, I don't think there's gonna be any major surprises mechanically or feature wise. I think some things will be cool and of course there'll be secrets. But like, I feel like, yeah, this is an open world Mario Kart and this is what an open world Mario Kart's going to look like. It is not full on Forza Horizon. It's Forza Light.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, fair enough.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo also detailed how outfits will work in the game. Races will feature dash food, and by collecting and eating it, characters will transform into an outfit related to that food. Eat sushi, and they'll wear a Japanese outfit. Once an outfit's been unlocked, it becomes available for use in the character select screen. New tricks confirmed include the charge jump, which can be used for leaping over obstacles. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Do you like picking up the outfits at the fast food places?

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Tim Gettys]

Me neither. I wish they were hidden around the world. I attached to challenges or whatever they are as well.

[Greg Miller]

Like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, when I was doing the free roam.

[Tim Gettys]

Can I take it back?

[Greg Miller]

They'll just be in a bunch of random spots. It's like I jumped off like a van and there was one just kind of in the air. Transformed me. In my experience, it seemed more random more often than not.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Where it wasn't like, oh, the sushi is the Japanese outfit. It was just like you eat a burger and just turns you into a random ass thing. It didn't feel like there was too much rhyme or reason. Even though I get that in this trailer we're seeing a little bit more correlation there.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But I don't know, I don't love it. I don't love it. Seems a little chaotic for my taste. You know what I mean? It seems a little forced of the. Oh, yeah. There's randomly. You eat food and it changes your outfit. Like, I Don't know. Something about that just doesn't. It just feels like noise. It just feels like adding stuff to add stuff.

[Tim Gettys]

Sure.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know. It does happen in real life.

[Tim Gettys]

Eat something wrong, turn your blue jeans brown. You know what I'm saying?

[Greg Miller]

I had the visual already, but like man, the free room option was.

[Tim Gettys]

You know what?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yep, yep, yep. The free room option was also shown in more detail. Players can freely drive around the game's map, but also hit P switches to start missions as well as find hidden coins, hidden panels and more. Players can also free roam with others online and use a photo mode. The game will support four player split screen on a single switch too. Locus local wireless for up to 8 players online, races up to 24. All the controls are returning. You get it, you get it, you get it. One thing we didn't get from this direct, the switch to pre orders. Another thing we didn't get is more technical stuff of like, can you replay it at 120 frames per second? Can we. Is it 4K60? Otherwise? All that stuff where. I know that's not traditionally Nintendo, but their last direct says otherwise.

[Tim Gettys]

You know, get ready for story number three. Kind of funny games, very exciting things that have gone away from the Switch 2.

[Greg Miller]

What?

[Tim Gettys]

Just the headline to tease you. Number three, Nintendo Switch 2 VRR mentions disappear from Nintendo's website. Jordan Miller.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, okay.

[Tim Gettys]

But back to this story number one. Yeah. As you said, an entire reaction and gamescast up about this. So you can get detailed, detailed deep dives over there. Please do. Of course, the reactions up as a gamescast, as a audio and you know, obviously everything's on YouTube. I enjoyed the direct. I didn't expect anything crazy from the direct. I expected 15 minutes of Mario Kart and that's what I got. I'm excited for Mario Kart. This game looks amazing. Like I said in there, it. I woke up to the fact that this is going to be the first game Ben and I play from ground zero together. Right. Like we are just going. And like we're going to learn at the same time. We're going to. I'm going to be unlocking things with him when he wants to play. I'm really going to want to play as well because I'll be so into it. That's. I hadn't thought I had to wrap my head around that. So far, every game Ben has played has been something I either don't care about, like Paw Patrol or something that I've played a million times and know incredibly well. So that's exciting here. I'm also not let down by this direct because I didn't expect the preorder information here. I didn't expect them to have new news. I think that's a different beat and I do think that that's a disappointing beat. So you'd have this marketing beat today of here's Mario Kart 8 or Mario Kart World. It's awesome. Here's why it's incredible. Here's all these cool things. We hope you like what you saw. Great. And then you let that be the good news for a while. And then next week tell me what the bad news.

[Greg Miller]

I absolutely agree with you that I didn't expect to get the pre order information or any of that in this direct.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Because yeah, it is a different beat and all that stuff. Having said that, I do think that contextually with where we're at with all the Nintendo Switch news and how the information has been handled and the level of utter chaos we are in. Yeah, it's. I understand why people would be upset getting this direct two weeks after the last one and this being it like this felt like a just a overview feature trailer like extended thing for Mario Kart, which yeah, they often do this for games and they need to. This makes sense. Again, the content I think was great. I just think the timing of this being pre switch to launch in the time and place in 2025 we are right now. I understand people being upset that it's like really like this game's fucking $80. You just show us that we don't even know when the pre order is. Like, I get why people are upset. If they are upset. I actually don't know.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, we don't know what the Internet is, but I assume they stayed off the Internet.

[Greg Miller]

I assume they are because it's like I. I'm with them to the extent of just like I want these answers, but I also understand what I don't want is answers from Nintendo that are just gonna change because the answers are just based on things that are changing.

[Tim Gettys]

The world we live in. The constant sliding scale of it's 10%, it's this, it's happening, it's not happening, it's this. Well, it's happening to this, but it's not happening to that.

[Greg Miller]

Like, yeah, like I'm not mad at Nintendo.

[Tim Gettys]

I feel bad for Nintendo. Yeah, I'm not mad at Nintendo for not saying anything because what are they going to say if they don't know and if they're waiting to see what happens? In the next 24 fucking hours in this news cycle we live in.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. So I, I get that we didn't get the, the pre orders there, but it is getting to a point now. It's April 17th right now. June 5th is the date that they stuck to in this direct. And yeah, like we're saying anything can change and I don't think that them saying that means oh for sure it's going to happen. But we talked a little bit about this earlier. But like I'm with you that like, I think they hit that date. Like I think that there's just too many things at, at play and they have to just get things out there and start the process. Even if it's gonna really not be fun and it's gonna be incredibly expensive or who the fuck knows? Like I, there's so many factors of potential disaster with the switch to launch. Yeah. But I do think that quote unquote, no matter what happens, there's, there's obviously some, whatever that could mean. Yeah, the Switch to selling out. So let's get that going. Let's get these things in as many people's hands as possible. Right. If I was Nintendo, like that's what I would be thinking because what are you delaying for? More chaos, you know?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I don't think this settles, you know what I mean? I don't think we get the Trump administration being like, all right, cool, we're done. And China's like, all right, we're down, we're done too. Like this is going to be. The sands are going to be constantly shifting here. Even with what it was the 30 day extension TRUMP gave on whatever and then capping them at 10. But X, Y and Z like Nintendo. And again, I'm not putting blame on them, but Nintendo couldn't have announced this at a worse time. You know what I mean? They couldn't have announced this and then put the date of June on at a worse time because it is literally they did it the day fucking Trump did all this shit. So now everything's in the. Who knows when it settles, if it ever settles, if it settles in four years from now or if it settles by summertime.

[Greg Miller]

And while that is true, like them announcing at the worst time, it's like there's no right time though, like because the people would be so upset if we still didn't know the date of the switch to.

[Tim Gettys]

Sure.

[Greg Miller]

You know, at least now there's some target of like we're looking at and I believe it's going to hit June 5th. But yeah, if, if they just showed the Switch to. We're like. And we have to sit and theorize like for months more. Is it summer? Is it fall? Is it like. I hear that would suck, you know, but again, we're kind of doing that anyways.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Sucks. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Realistically, you just said, if I was Nintendo, when are you going to come out and be like, all right, we're biting the bullet. This is the price. This is the preorder date for America.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, the problem is, it's like there's, there's no understanding of what we're waiting.

[Tim Gettys]

We're talking about. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Right. So I feel like it's not like, oh, man, that Trump's gonna have a press conference Vernon Nintendo Switch 2 in.

[Tim Gettys]

Video game call, you know, whatever.

[Greg Miller]

So it's like, I feel like it's just gonna get to a point where hold out as long as you can because I don't think there's any need to get ahead of it.

[Tim Gettys]

To your point, it's gonna sell out no matter what. So the video game psychos like us and you listening or watching the show are in or out. There's a price ceiling to everything. But there's enough of us that you don't have to worry about. Yeah. The mainstream getting it and you'll have it by Christmas, they'll figure it out, blah, blah, blah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. So I would say that at that point, it really just is a matter of making sure that the supplies are where they need to be and like being able to get the people the system. And I think that they've already done a lot of that work.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So I feel like this thing could go up as late as. I mean, I think a month is the most realistic thing, but I do think even two weeks and you'll be okay.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Because like, again, like, they, they've already been prepping for the shipments of this shit. Sure.

[Tim Gettys]

What gets stupid for me. Sorry about definitely not understanding. This is what I don't understand in the global supply chain is. So if they're changing the retail price of this because of tariffs and stuff, I'm assuming then Amazon Best Buy retailer X haven't ordered their thing yet. So that's gotta be in the mix of how long you give people the pre order. Right. Because Amazon's gonna buy X million units and then have to get them up. But if they haven't bought that and there isn't a check paid to Nintendo for that, that's where it is.

[Greg Miller]

That's a very good.

[Tim Gettys]

That's where the two weeks doesn't sound right. I mean an Amazon maybe, but like.

[Greg Miller]

Amazon's the weird one though. Cause they have a weird history with Nintendo anyways of sometimes not even having their systems at all. So that might be a down the line. Like this might be a you got to get it from Nintendo situation.

[Tim Gettys]

And if that's the case, then yeah, who cares? Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Barrett. Yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And what do you guys think the price will end up being? Because at this point it's like our economic situation is so volatile and it's not going to settle down probably in any sort of way, shape or form anytime soon. And so I feel like you have to start preparing for the worst in the long term. Even if things do stable out for the next 90 days. Right.

[Tim Gettys]

So my thought there, and I hear you and I don't think you're wrong, but I think that as PlayStation is showing us week after week, month after month, they can change these things when they want to. Right? And especially for 90 days or whatever it is and selling out at launch, I think they come up and they go, Listen, base model 450 bundle 500. That's what we're doing right now to protect us with this 10% that's guaranteed or X, Y and Z. We're doing that and they won't get in this level of detail or Nintendo, they'll just change that because of economic world things. And then yes, if we go down in those 90 days and it changes over and the, you know, Taiwan goes up even higher and da da da da da, then they, or Vietnam, they come back and they do it again, they change the thing like whatever the next wave is. Then I think there's also this like.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Do they want to do that though? Especially like if the next wave is getting closer to holiday and then I.

[Tim Gettys]

Don'T think they want to, I don't think they want to do any of this again. I feel bad for Nintendo, right? So I think it. But I don't think you go that far out as to like future proof something that's not there, especially for a price. You already announced, you already announced it at 400, 450. And now you're like, ah, we got to change it again, do this thing. And if we have to, it's one of the, it's the normal thing of like I feel like again Nintendo announcing this at the worst possible time, not to their fault is the idea that they did this. And if we get 90 days in or closer to holidays and they have to go up $100 on these things, it's gonna suck. But everyone else will be and we'll all be in such dire straits of what the fuck's going on in the global economy right now because of this stupid goddamn administration that it won't be ah, Nintendo, you greedy sons of bitch. Like it won't be on them, it will be. Your PlayStation's more expensive, your Xbox is more expensive, Razors are more expensive, et cetera, et cetera.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I'm with that. I don't feel confidently about putting out a thing, a price that I'm like yes, I bet it's this because we just Simply don't know 100 what's going to happen. But if I did have to bet, I don't think they changed the price for launch and I do think that gives them the wiggle room later because I, I feel like Nintendo, they want as much money as possible, but they're also not trying to steal from people. So I feel like they want to get this thing out there. They want the initial launch of the Switch to, to be as well received as possible because this is the start of a generation, this is the start of their sole source of major money for the next 10 years. Right?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So I feel like they, it's so important for them to get that right and we've seen them before get things wrong many times even like the 3Ds coming out and within months getting a price drop and them having to come up with ambassador programs and coming up with make goods and stuff to, to fix that. I don't think that they want to do that again, you know, I know they don't want to do that again and I feel like here it's like cool, you put it out and you can raise the price later due to all this other stuff but that's where my money's at.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I, I, I, I believe that yes, they want to put their best foot forward. Especially like with the success of the switch 2. They don't want to Wii U situation. They, they want to do as much as they can, but they're also being put into an impossible situation. And even though that they've moved a lot of a portion of their manufacturing to I believe Vietnam and I'm forgetting the other country, like they're still dealing with the Chinese tariffs which like, I don't know if they're gonna actually eat.

[Greg Miller]

Those costs at launch because that would be insane. Yeah, it would absolutely be insane. But what, what are the tariffs actually going to look like? I feel like the number changes every Single week.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Even higher for China in two weeks probably.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. So it's at a certain point it's.

[Tim Gettys]

Like what are you going to do?

[Greg Miller]

What? What are you going to do?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, yeah. 100%.

[Greg Miller]

Oh man. We got some super chats here.

[Tim Gettys]

Can I ask a question for super chats too?

[Greg Miller]

Yes.

[Tim Gettys]

What is your ceiling. What is your price ceiling for the Nintendo Switch to at launch? I want to know that.

[Greg Miller]

That's rough, man. I know because I again, I just feel like it's, it's make believe numbers talking about real money and that's what gets scary. We know the value of money to us, the money that we have, we don't know what that correlates to, to this nebulous. Oh, tariffs are going to change things and the money like the cost of things are going to go up. We don't know what that's going to look like. So it's like what. I can't even answer that question myself, you know, I mean, would I spend a thousand dollars on the Switch?

[Tim Gettys]

I hope not to.

[Greg Miller]

I mean I would. Yeah, I undoubtedly would. I spent 700 on the PS5 Pro. I want to play my Switch to games. I want to play in 4K.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I have the money to be able to do that. Would I spend more than that? Probably not. And that's. I know that like I'm on the fucking high end there for that but like if that's what it costs, that's what it costs, you know.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I, there's no world I don't get the Switch to, you know.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Is there?

[Tim Gettys]

I don't know, I mean above a thousand dollars.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. Thousands is crazy for me personally. I said this weeks before the big reveal that I was mentally preparing for 600 and I think that's honestly probably where my ceiling is at. And I honestly think that's where things are gonna land.

[Greg Miller]

I also don't even think that's crazy. $600 for the switch too. I don't like it.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. But yeah, it's such a weird one for us of like it's a business expense or whatever.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Tim Gettys]

But it's like I feel like.

[Greg Miller]

I.

[Tim Gettys]

Guess it's a weird one. Yeah. Because I would justify it for work no matter like 600 is where I'm like, I'm questioning at 600 personally just for how much I use my switch one now again I'm being. Well, I guess I'm not at 600. I'm questioning it. Right. Based on how much you do it. And I think I'm Even then it might be. I would let us get the office unit that we buy or whatever we end up doing and I'll play Mario Kart here with y'all and then whatever. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, for me, I'm taking take work out of it entirely just how much I enjoy Nintendo games. Oh yeah. I play my Switch.

[Tim Gettys]

That's my thing is like.

[Greg Miller]

That's why I don't think that like everybody should if the switch to $600, I don't think. Oh yeah. Hey, it's worth it for everybody. But is it worth it to me? Yeah, definitely. Thousand percent. It will be. But that's a shitty position to put people in when 100%. But. But again, it's not their fault.

[Tim Gettys]

So.

[Greg Miller]

Man Costa says 500 is my max. Living legend says Tim. Did you play Donkey Kong in handheld and how did it run? No, when we were at the event, they were very, very like, this game's only tv, this game's only handheld. Like you didn't get to like choose Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom were the only ones that we got to do both handheld and docked. Clawmaster says chat. Let's be real. Who here can afford a Switch to. Really depends on how much the switch costs, right? Yeah. Yelsing says they have to announce the pre order with price and have it be known that the price increases because of tariffs so they can dampen the blow on them. Sure, yeah. I mean the communication on all that's going to be rough. And then Mexican says birthday tax for my big brother. He put me onto you guys and would never do this for himself. So. Happy birthday, Jose.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, happy birthday. Thank you for caring.

[Greg Miller]

That's very cool. Mexican shouting at your brother like that good name dope stuff. It is a good name. I want to move on to story number two. But first I want to do one more super chat and then a word from our sponsors. Jay Colado says 500 max. 550 for MK bundle, 600 for OLED. Oh man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You ready for a 750 OLED edition in a couple years too?

[Tim Gettys]

We'll fix it by then, right?

[Greg Miller]

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[Greg Miller]

Story number two Xbox boss Phil Spencer reiterates support for the Switch to say Nintendo's been a great partner. This comes from Eric Van Allen at ign. Following the reveal of the Switch to ign.

[Tim Gettys]

They're the ones who beat you at.

[Greg Miller]

They are. They got first place. It was Logan Plant.

[Tim Gettys]

He was really good.

[Greg Miller]

He was very fast. He wasn't that far ahead of me. Just wanted to be known. It sounds like Roger.

[Tim Gettys]

Run the footage.

[Greg Miller]

Sounds like the partnership between Nintendo and Xbox will continue. Apace. I've never heard that word before, have you? Apace.

[Tim Gettys]

Apace. Yeah, I don't think I have. No Crazy.

[Greg Miller]

Microsoft's head of gaming Phil Spencer recently reaffirmed his support for the Switch platform as a way for the company to reach people who aren't on its platforms. In an interview with Variety, Spencer was asked if he had any plans for specific projects on Switch 2. The Xbox head said just as his company had been supporting Switch 1, it wants to support Switch 2. Quote, Nintendo's been a great partner. We think it's a unique way for us to reach players who aren't PC, players who aren't Xbox. It lets us continue to grow our community of players that care about the franchises we have and that's really important for us to make sure we continue to invest in our games. I'm a really big believer in what Nintendo means for this industry. And us continuing to support them and getting the support from them for our franchises, I think is an important part of our future. Spencer's previously been a vocal proponent of Nintendo Switch 2. We know that stuff, blah, blah, blah. When Variety asked whether the Switch 2 reveal made Spencer Ansi to announce what Xbox has next for its console lineup, though it doesn't seem like that's moved the needle there. No, I think it's. I think all of us in this industry should focus on our communities and the player base that we're building. I get inspired by what a lot of different creators do and other platform holders, but I believe in the plans that we have. Cool. Not surprising. What was surprising is no Xbox games at all in that Switch two direction.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, right. I thought for sure we would have seen something out there.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I wonder why. You know, there's been a lot of talks about dev kits not being out there. Right there. Was that the Free three phase report and all that stuff? Clearly like a lot of the big dogs got them and there was a couple of surprising third party things going on in that direct. Like, you know, Star Wars Outlaws was there but it wasn't featured. It was just kind of like, hey, it's here. Cool. We're getting Ubisoft support that way.

[Tim Gettys]

So I was having Greg Sabin out there talking about Hades too.

[Greg Miller]

Absolutely. Yeah. They crushed it in terms of third party support from software. Come on. Yeah, Project Double 7, like all that stuff. Great. But there were things that weren't there and that is bizarre. When we see Microsoft making these moves multi platform and we've heard Phil Spencer talking about want to support Switch to. They've already supported Switch 1.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I'm not upset because I know the games are going to come. I thought that that was going to be a slam dunk guarantee that that stuff would be there.

[Tim Gettys]

What's your. So do you think it is them being protective? Do you think it is Nintendo being like, hey, let's not share that amount of spotlight?

[Greg Miller]

No, I think It's Xbox being like we have an Xbox showcase in summer and that's when we're gonna do it. All right. I think that this, the Xbox showcase this year is going to be dramatically different than what we've seen in the past. Like I think.

[Tim Gettys]

Talk to me about that. What do you mean dramatically in terms of. I mean they already talked about PlayStation logos being on there.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, really quick. Dylan Torso brings up a good point in chat. Tony Hawk was at the direct. Wouldn't that count?

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

In some way, shape or form.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. That was featured. Right. And Xbox are treating Tony Hawk like it's one of their games. Like they keep putting in the images of Next to South of Midnight and all that stuff. So. Yeah, that's a, that's a good point. But yeah, I just think that the Xbox showcase this year is going to feel more like a really, really, really good Ubisoft conference from the past. Right. I'm just like, yeah, these games, every time it pops up, like we're going to assume it's on all systems.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, right.

[Greg Miller]

For sure. I think the Switch to Reveal has proved that Nintendo came to play and like they're exactly like the tech is going to be able to play games like Star Wars Outlaws that just came out last year. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be able to play every single game. I definitely don't think it's going to be the best way to play most games, but I think it's going to be a good enough way to play most games in a way that the Switch one simply was not sure. So yeah, I think that the Xbox Game showcase we're going to see a ton of new announced games and yeah, coming. Everything interesting, right?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I hadn't thought that far ahead. You know what I mean? We're always so on the next thing, the next thing, the next thing. SGF and Xbox. I was talking about this in the Greg way today. I really hadn't. It happened while I was gone. Even the announcement of their SGF or you know, whatever, their summer conference followed by Outer Worlds to Direct or whatever. And so like finally having the brain capacity to think about that. Yeah, you're right. I guess that they would be doing there. Are you. Do you think it's going to be a. It's coming to everything for the new stuff or do you think it's going to be like we're bringing older stuff like Master Chief collection?

[Greg Miller]

Oh, definitely.

[Tim Gettys]

Everything under the sun.

[Greg Miller]

Oh yeah, I think so. And yeah, I'VE been wanting to do a gamescast episode where we do look at Xbox games and kind of predict what's going to happen with the legacy content. Like. Like Master Chief collection.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

What's that look like? And are they going to enhance some of the old games? Like, what's the cutoff point? Like, what's it gonna look like? Obviously not every single Xbox game ever is Gonna come to PlayStation and Switch, but I do think that we're going to get a handful of them. We already are with things like Forza. Is that going to come to Switch to. I'm pretty sure it will. Right. I just don't know when. Yeah, I don't think either. Sorry, what?

[Tim Gettys]

That's imminent on PlayStation, right? It is weak.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, it is, yeah. But it's exciting. You know, I think that this is going to be very, very big for Xbox. I think it's gonna be a huge win for these games to be able to be.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, it's. You know what? It'll be their latest. Because I don't say like, you know, it'll be whatever, but it'll be their latest example of their strategy actually working and being there. Xbox wants to be where you are. Xbox wants Xbox games in your hands wherever you are. It's been a compelling argument for a long time, I think, between all of us and, you know, hardcore gamers, people listening or watching this show. But then to see that, you know, get out to the mainstream, and for so many people, when that happens and Xbox teams start showing up on their Switch and they see an Xbox splash logo, they're going to be like, wait, what? But I'm playing on Switch. They won't understand or know that that's happening the way that we know is happening right now. And then you get your Xbox anywhere and so on and so forth.

[Greg Miller]

An Xbox.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. This is an Xbox story number three.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo Switch to VRR mentions disappear from their website. This comes from Jordan Middler at VGC. As part of Nintendo's Switch 2 reveal, the firm announced that the new console would support 4K 120 FPS and variable refresh rates. Now, Nintendo seemingly removed mentions of VRR from several websites. Officially, as noted by Digital Foundries Oliver McKenzie, mentions of VRR have been removed from certain regional Nintendo websites at the time of writing. It's also been removed from Canadian, US and Japanese versions of the site. BGC can confirm at the time of writing that the text is still present on the European version. But it's possible Nintendo's in the process of Removing it from all ver and has yet to update its European site. Variable refresh rates allow supported TVs to display unconventional frame rates in order to provide a smoother experience. This allows games with uncapped frame rates to have wider performance flexibility in intense areas. VGC's contacting Nintendo for comments on this story. Not good. Definitely, definitely not good. I also don't think that this is the end of the world, of course, but it's not good like for them to come out and have all of the buzzwords there in a way that we weren't expecting. Not definitely we're not expecting, but I also think that from my experience so far there is that push with these games that at least the first lineup of games, it's 1080p, 120 frames per second or 4K60 for these Nintendo games. Yeah and I think when it comes to the Nintendo games, I think VRR is going to matter less. I think VRR is going to matter and this is going to be a big bummer to third party games.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, you just talked about, you know, Star wars and Xbox stuff and whoever Cyber.

[Greg Miller]

So yeah, it's like if they get rid of this stuff again or if they don't have it, like yeah, this is a bummer.

[Tim Gettys]

Like what do you think happened to get it on the sites, to get it in the material and then now to take it away?

[Greg Miller]

I don't know. And the thing too is again, this is not confirmed. This is just things being taken away from a website.

[Tim Gettys]

Little Jordan Middler looking at websites, seeing what they have and what they don't have.

[Greg Miller]

But like is it specifically talking about when it is connected to a TV or is it. It works this way docked or undocked different? Like I don't know.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But yeah, I do not like this, you know. And it continues this like cycle of Nintendo losing control of the public's rioting with the lack of information that we're getting or information changing and all that stuff. So like definitely sucks to see. I. I want to see a healthy Nintendo that technically is on par with the baseline of the rest of the industry and this stuff nice to haves, but they're very nice to haves and it's really sad to have them taken.

[Tim Gettys]

Away 100% in the chat. And I don't even know if this is true. Isaac Reed says they'll add it with an update. PS5 did that and that's true too. Like that could be something. Yeah. For some reason isn't working for launch or they need to whatever. And then. Yeah, they can patch it in later.

[Greg Miller]

We got a couple super chats. Zach Johnson says, birthday tax. Have a great day, y'all. Happy birthday, Zach. And movie rants. Joe says, I was hoping for a Diddy Kong racing style quote story mode in Mario Kart, but it looks like it's 80 because it's a high demand game. Smh. Yeah. We'll have to see how substantial all that free roam stuff is. I'm. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that it's going to be a fun time.

[Tim Gettys]

A fun time.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. But I mean, I also am not hoping for the dream cart games don't.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Need story modes to just.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, but they could have them and they could be good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Have they been though?

[Greg Miller]

I mean, Mario 64 doesn't need a story, but it has one. Like just giving a, like a frame of reference for like what's going on and like your story frame of reference.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Tim, you're on a cart and you're fucking racing.

[Greg Miller]

Go. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

You know when you die.

[Greg Miller]

Andy was bringing this up on, on the reaction. Like, I would love to go up to NPCs and have them talk to me. Like, the story can just be like there's a world. You know what I mean? Like I, I not having that stuff makes this look empty. Like it looks like you're just in a big empty world. And I want things to do.

[Tim Gettys]

I agree with that. I wish all the stuff was inside of the open world. I wish, I wish it was Forza Horizon where you turned it on and that was all there and you could go do all that stuff rather than choose. I want to go do the Cannonball Run mode. Choose. I want to go to open world. Choose. I want to battle.

[Greg Miller]

I think kind of is going to be like that though. What do you mean? I think it is gonna be integrated. There'll be menu systems. But like it is all in the world.

[Tim Gettys]

But is it? I have to go to separate modes, right? I have to like come back to the main menu to choose to go to all these. That's what, that's what you don't have to do in Forza, right? You can drive racing and do the next thing that would populate the world of things you do and talk to like you're talking.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah. Can't remember how it worked when we went into the knockout Tour, because I'm pretty sure we just were in free roam and got drove to a place and then it started.

[Tim Gettys]

But they were very clear that there's a free road Mode.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

There might be a little bit of free roam before you do it. But that would mean that in that mode you can't go get the coins and you can't go get the thing. I think that's going to be the gate gating they're doing here.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Which I think on one hand, silly. On the other hand, it really doesn't matter because it'll be. I don't feel like racing anybody. I feel like going to get some coins. All right, I'm done with that. I want to go race the big thing. I need to practice. I need a time trial. Just go off jumped all the different things.

[Greg Miller]

But yeah. Story number four Final Fantasy 15 director comments on the delay this comes from Genki on twitter. Final Fantasy 15 director Hajime Tama says that that him choosing an initial release date for Final Fantasy 15 that was too early leading to them delay the game was a massive mess up quote. So I took the development status into account and got a grasp of the situation of competing titles that initially decided on a release date of September. However, about a month after deciding, I was holding my head in my hand saying I messed up. When you delay the release of a game, of a major game like Final Fantasy 15, it really does cause trouble in a lot of places. It really was the greatest mistake.

[Tim Gettys]

Jesus.

[Greg Miller]

In the end, it was delayed from September 30 to November 29, 2016. If you don't remember, Greg and I were the ones that announced the September dates and it was a big ass reveal. It was a giant. The biggest wall I've ever uncovered. The thing is like they had the date spinning right and it was like going to do the reveal and it was November and it was like, oh. And it ended going on going up to September and it's like I just thought this is hilarious. I. It is so funny to have the kind of transparency be like, yo, we fucked up. Like you should not have done that.

[Tim Gettys]

I was glad he didn't call us out because I thought that's when you said this. You know when you put it through and you're like, make sure we talk about this tomorrow when you put it into Slack yesterday. And I can never for the life of me find assets when I'm trying to get something to bear it. There's uncovered if you jump to the end. Barrett. I thought it was gonna be about us in the button.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Remember the whole. The whole brouhaha button. I don't remember what happened with the button except that we talked about the button. The whole show Hitting it. And then when we got there, somebody lost the button.

[Greg Miller]

Yep.

[Tim Gettys]

We were like going on stage at the end or like where's the button? Like we don't know where the button is. I'm like, well that was the. We've built this up, an entire livestream to hit the button in the Shrine Auditorium. But now we don't have the button. Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Or whatever. Screaming fans.

[Tim Gettys]

And then we got really ripped apart, remember by the Japanese commentators who were what? Who were like doing their, like their reaction stream. They were all mad at that we didn't use the button.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Why? Where's the button?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Who knows? I don't fancy 15. What a time. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

You ever stopped thinking about that? That we hosted that thing?

[Greg Miller]

I do. I often think about it. Yeah. I also often think about how Final Fantasy 15 was so close to being amazing. Maybe not so close, but it's there.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean had Florence in the Machine.

[Greg Miller]

You can see, you know, the potential is there. I feel like if you gave that game, and I know this is a crazy thing to say, but if you gave that game two more years, I think it would have been an all timer.

[Tim Gettys]

Wow.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, Fair enough.

[Greg Miller]

Story number five. PlayStation plus prices in Canada are increasing again.

[Tim Gettys]

Man.

[Greg Miller]

PlayStation plus prices in Canada are raising for the second time. Canadian subscribers, including Reset era user G hollow. I get that. Just sourcing. Where he's breaking the news.

[Tim Gettys]

He's breaking the news.

[Greg Miller]

Have been reporting that they've received emails from Sony informing them that 12 month subscriptions to the service would be rising from June 24th. On that date, the price of a 12 month PlayStation plus essential subscription will change from $95 to $110. An increase of $15 a 12 month PS plus extra subscription. I hate this stuff, Greg.

[Tim Gettys]

I know.

[Greg Miller]

I really hate it. Like I get it. It's not that complicated. And I, I, I'm not the biggest fan of people. Like when there's a chart, everyone making fun of it because it's like yo, the charts just making this simple. But like also doesn't need to be like this, you know, I mean it.

[Tim Gettys]

Makes sense when you read it.

[Greg Miller]

I just don't want to read it. I refuse. If I'm being honest, one's going up 35 and others going up 35. One's 15. Cool. Do the math on that. According to Sony's email, the price adjustment will enable us to continue bringing high quality games and benefits to your PlayStation plus subscription service. Cool. This is the second time Canadian players have seen their PlayStation plus prices rise following a hike in 2023. The second price increase now means that since the three tier system originally launched, Canada Essentials risen by a total of $40 a year. God dam damn extra has risen by 75 and premium by 85 a year. Man money.

[Tim Gettys]

Yep, we're on the ride. Everything's going on the ride. They're going to find a way to get every dollar they can to try to make up for the dollars they're losing.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

When does it come here?

[Tim Gettys]

Imminently? Probably, I don't know. Before the year's end, I'll say. Before summer. Before end of summer. That's the economy you live in now.

[Greg Miller]

Story number six Report Ubisoft developing a new Battle Royale heavily inspired by Apex Legends comes from Tom Henderson at Insider Gaming. The game, which is currently under the project name of Scout, is so heavily inspired by Respawn Entertainment's highly successful Apex Legends that it was once used as the thumbnail for the project. It's understood that the game's been in development for at least a couple years and will feature, quote, very similar characters to Apex Legends, including a spin on Pathfinder, Wraith, Lifeline and other characters from the game. One source said on the project, I think the goal is to capitalize on the player count of Apex dropping and Ubisoft higher ups thinking there's room in the market for another hero, Battle Royale. Interestingly enough, the project seems to go against Ubisoft's own internal research team, who recently asked the question as to quote what's next after Battle Royale? While citing the decline in players across various Battle Royale games, including Apex Legends. They figured it out. Greg. I'm so happy. I'm so happy that Ubisoft looked. They're like how do we save ourselves? We've been talking for months about maybe doing a gamescast topic of how to save. We don't need to do it anymore. They figured it out. Let's copy Apex Legends when? So Apex Legends isn't doing as well.

[Tim Gettys]

Anymore and of course even use the thumbnail. You know what I mean? Just be that like blatant about what you're doing and where you're going with it. You know, Ubisoft hasn't succeeded the most when they trace chase trends, but maybe this will be the one that this.

[Greg Miller]

Might be the one.

[Tim Gettys]

This will be the one that changes it. Yeah, this will be the one that changes reality.

[Greg Miller]

Hero based shooter.

[Tim Gettys]

That's what people want.

[Greg Miller]

Me, that's what people want.

[Tim Gettys]

They want. Ask about Concord. You know what I mean? Let's get out there. Let's get on and do the damn thing.

[Greg Miller]

Holy fuck, dude. Holy.

[Tim Gettys]

You will never see this game is my prediction.

[Greg Miller]

Do we see a Ubisoft showcase at.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Miller]

Summer Game Fest?

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, my God. No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You can't be back to that hotel fucking lobby, man.

[Tim Gettys]

You can't. We can't. They can't. They can't have a Ubisoft showcase at sgf, can they? Can they?

[Greg Miller]

I. I honestly pray that they don't. They simply can't have things to talk about.

[Tim Gettys]

You figure. Assassin's Creed dlc, man, they've always got. Are they still doing all the mobiles and bullshits?

[Greg Miller]

Doing such a weird place, man.

[Tim Gettys]

Star wars dlc. I guess it's about to come out, right?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

A new far cry. That's a good point. Guy V says new far cry. That could be the reason you'd go there.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

Rainbow Six Siege stuff. Somebody says. Alex says Division Two DLC. Remember? Like in on April 26th, they're doing a Division Two DLC live stream. So I don't think you do that.

[Greg Miller]

Yep.

[Tim Gettys]

Just dance. Of course. Yeah. Avatar. Don't do it. Just don't.

[Greg Miller]

The worst.

[Tim Gettys]

Save your money.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The worst produced live show I think I've ever seen. Oh, and it's like, I don't love saying that just because I know how hard it is. Of course do live production, particularly for E3SGF. But, like, what was the vision?

[Greg Miller]

Embarrassing. Simply embarrassing to have all the suits in the front row. Like, the whole point of this, just for them, just to have them be like, look at our stuff. Look at all my shit. Not even the cool way.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And they would like to show B roll like this.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. This is how we want to see this game.

[Tim Gettys]

Don't do it. Ubisoft don't do.

[Greg Miller]

How should we show off Skull and Bones for the fourth year? Let's just have people come up and play some music from the game. They kick off.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like they don't have like the, you know, the talent that was, you know, like camera ready and charismatic. Like, shout out to the, you know, homie. Yousef and Neelam, like, why use them?

[Greg Miller]

Why? Why? You know what I mean? Nah, Nah. God. I'm in big hater mode right now, Greg. I can't get out of it. I can't get out of it. They killed my dog. What?

[Tim Gettys]

I regret to inform you, Moose.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, man. If Ubisoft did kill my dog, Greg, that'd be big news. But if I wanted to know something small, where the fuck would I go?

[Tim Gettys]

We have Small dogs too. But you'd go, of course, to our last news story, the We News Channel, where we all the small news items you need to know about.

[Greg Miller]

You're fucking with me. This feel. Am I getting banana'd right now from ign Skull and Bones to add Land Combat this fall. They got it. They figured it all out, everybody. As Ubisoft outlines Year two content plans.

[Tim Gettys]

There you go. That's what this show is gonna be.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. During season three this fall, Ubisoft will finally allow players to take the action away from the sea. Meaning you'll be able to sword fight and even draw your firearms against others. Cool. Star Overdrive launches June 19 on Xbox Series. PS5 and PC. Uncapped Games announced that a new phase of beta testing has begun for its upcoming action real time strategy game Battle Aces. Players can sign up.

[Tim Gettys]

Funny.

[Greg Miller]

Favorite players can sign up to play now via Steam and can experience the full depth of strategic options in the game with all units unlocked. The outLast trial season three launches April 22nd with trial.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You.

[Greg Miller]

I ain't gonna read that. Banana. Barrett not reading the banana.

[Tim Gettys]

Nice try, Barrett.

[Greg Miller]

Trial Banana Maker mode. That's funny. New Enemy and more. And that's it for we lose. Well, that was good. You timed it perfectly.

[Tim Gettys]

Thank you. Me and Barrett have been working on it after hours.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah. Barista Brand super chats in saying, Is Final Fantasy 15 worth playing if the only Final Fantasy I played is Kingdom Hearts? It wouldn't be my starting place, I'll tell you that.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay. Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

I appreciate. I appreciate the honesty.

[Greg Miller]

I. If. If Kingdom Hearts is your only Final Fantasy, I'd play seven remake. I think that's the right move.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Living Legend says hoping for a PS5 mod that lets you transfer game saves to an external drive. Since that's the only reason I have PS + paywalling a basic feature is scummy.

[Tim Gettys]

Great point. That is. You are 100% correct. There is no counter argument to that. That's super fucked up that you can't move it to USB anymore.

[Greg Miller]

Trevor says, just watched the Goofy Movie documentary the other day. I want to shout out Tim's cameo. Great documentary. If you grew up with the Goofy movie. Yeah, great documentary. Highly recommend y'all watch it on Disney plus. Yeah, I made it for a second, which is pretty cool. Pretty damn cool.

[Tim Gettys]

That was a fun one because I don't know how much you ever talk to him about it, but like, your Disney enthusiasm is matched by pose. Pose. Poe grew up a huge Disney household Family takes Jack there multiple times a year. And so like on, you know, me and him are going back and forth. We're still planning the Chicago show. And then all of a sudden I just got it in the middle of the Chicago text, I get a screenshot of his TV and it's just Tim exclamation because he was watching it on release date because he loves goose.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, that's awesome. Yeah. I mean, it's so cool. It's like the Goofy movie. Not just a goof is the name of the documentary. It's getting like front placement on Disney plus. I think even right now if you just turn on Disney plus it's there, which is very, very cool. And a best friend directed it. So yeah, that's how I got in, which is awesome. But yeah, it's a great documentary and very fascinating story about a very fascinating movie. Goofy Movie.

[Tim Gettys]

At some point, Greg, Goofy, you and.

[Greg Miller]

Ben, do you need to watch Goofy Movie?

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

But it's going f ck you up. Oh, yeah, it's father son.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Also extremely goofy movie.

[Greg Miller]

Still haven't watched it, Barrett.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, I know him.

[Greg Miller]

I know it's game. Dude, what was the word that you used? You're like, I'm going to get. Was it zooted?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, dude, I'm gonna get suited and.

[Greg Miller]

Watch Extreme Movie tonight. I think about parents say that all the time. It makes me laugh, honestly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

If like just thinking the father son stuff, the second one, would you up even more?

[Greg Miller]

Oh, man. Yeah, I need to get zooted. Watching Goofy. Extremely Goofy movie baby. And then CJ splits on says twisted metal trailers out. I know we're running long. I gotta watch it, Greg.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, okay.

[Greg Miller]

I'm cool with that.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, sure.

[Greg Miller]

Of course.

[Tim Gettys]

Anthony Mackie. Of course. My Captain America.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't want to watch.

[Greg Miller]

Ah, you're right. You're right. Sorry. We can't. We can't.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Remember when YouTube came out of the shadows while we were live with Superman and like, it's scary. It's been scary since then. Everybody.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, over here. New Fantastic Four trailer. We know we're planning on doing a reacts to the Fantastic Fantastic Four.

[Greg Miller]

Yes. We will do Fantastic Four trailer and the final Thunderbolts trailer. But it won't be live. It'll just go up later.

[Tim Gettys]

Because that's how they get you.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's like we got a warning from YouTube. If we get our first strike, we're not going to be able to upload or stream for a week.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. So we got. We got to be chill. But we appreciate all of you. That was kind of funny. Games Daily thank you for hanging out with us today on this beautiful Thursday. It's a Friday for me, though, because I'm going to Las Vegas Baby Mania. I'm excited, but we're not done with the day. Like we're saying. Later you'll be able to watch our Fantastic Four trailer reaction, and right now you can watch our WrestleMania predictions, followed by a fun little Schedule 1 stream with Joey and the boys. Till next time, it's been our pleasure to serve you.

[Tim Gettys]

He has my stars.

[Greg Miller]

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[Tim Gettys]

I still want to kill the word podcast.

[Greg Miller]

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