10 Games to Know Greg Miller - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: "10 Games to Know Greg Miller"

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Tim Gettys
Guest: Greg Miller
Summary by: Kinda Funny Podcast Summarizer

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Episode Overview

In this special episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast, the team dives deep into a viral trend: picking "10 Games to Know You." This time, all eyes are on Greg Miller and his unique, story-driven gaming history. Tim Gettys leads the conversation, guessing Greg's picks, exploring what each title means to Greg, and discussing how these choices define his identity as a gamer and industry veteran. The discussion is equal parts introspective and entertaining, loaded with anecdotes, classic banter, and behind-the-scenes Kinda Funny lore.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Makes a "10 Games to Know Greg Miller" List?

• Prompt Clarification:
  • The point isn't picking the "best" or "favorite" games, but those that define Greg’s DNA as a gamer—games with stories, emotional impact, or genre-defining moments in his life.
  • [08:06, Greg] “These aren't necessarily my favorite games of all time... They are the ones where I'm like, oh, but this game did X, Y and Z and die.”
• Criteria: Includes life-changing titles, genre favorites, and games tied to unforgettable stories.
• Notable Quote:
  • [09:23, Greg] “These games come down to the games I have stories about. These are the games that transcended me just playing them... the building blocks of me.”

2. Tim Tries to Guess Greg’s List

• Playful predictions and banter ("DC Universe Online has to be there, right? Metal Gear Solid…")
• Speculation on wrestling games, Naughty Dog representation, and which open-world RPG would make the cut.
• Revisiting Greg's on-air and personal history: “To get to know Greg, there’s the wrestling, there’s the Ghostbusters, there’s the Metal Gear…”

3. Greg’s Official "10 Games to Know Me" List

The Games (not in order):

1. DC Universe Online
2. Ghostbusters (Sega Master System)
3. Starfield
4. Infamous
5. Lumines: Electronic Symphony
6. Metal Gear Solid (PS1)
7. The Division 2
8. WWF No Mercy (N64)
9. Telltale’s The Walking Dead (Season 1)
10. Gone Home

Tim’s Correct Guesses: 5/10
[27:00] – “You got five... 50%. I'll take that.”

Breakdown of Choices & Stories

• Ghostbusters (Sega Master System):

  • The game that started everything – “…without Ghostbusters I’m not here.”
  • [31:15, Greg] “I was a Ghostbusters fan before I was a video game fan… they bought me Ghostbusters for my birthday… and we were off to the races.”

• Metal Gear Solid (PS1):

  • Reignited Greg’s passion for gaming in high school, showing him the potential for cinematic storytelling in games.
  • [31:44, Greg] “Me and Poe rented Metal Gear Solid on PS1, and I was like, oh my God, this is the future of video games.”

• WWF No Mercy (N64):

  • "Had to make it" for Greg’s wrestling game legacy and the cartridge bug that led to his PlayStation era.
  • [32:39, Greg] “No Mercy is also tied up in stories… I lost all my progress over and over again. Like the fourth or fifth time I tried to return it, I was like, you know what? Sold everything... and bought a PlayStation.”

• DC Universe Online:

  • Most hours played; Greg’s MMO heaven; literal childhood dream fulfilled.
  • [33:28, Greg] “My most played video game of all time… literally my definition of heaven.”

• Lumines: Electronic Symphony (Vita):

  • Greg’s Tetris, Vita representation, and experience of online validation for his puzzle mastery.
  • [35:18, Greg] “Luminous is so much more… dynamic… you can jump to Tetris Effect… but Luminous, however, has always kind of been Tetris effect in terms of the music, the visuals.”

• Infamous (PS3):

  • Formative “superhero” sandbox and post-divorce comfort game.
  • [39:24, Greg] “Before we were getting decent superhero games, we were just getting garbage… and so when it was, guess what? …their own superhero game… it was like, no, no way.”
  • Iconic platinum hunt story: “Taking my digital camera, taking pictures of the screen… at my desk at IGN with a red Sharpie… until I found this final fucking blast shard.”

• Telltale’s The Walking Dead (Season 1):

  • Emotional storytelling milestone; ties to Kinda Funny and “Up at Noon” era voice actor friendships.
  • [44:05, Greg] “Lee ever being somebody who really killed his wife… He did. It was like, whoa. And then to get that ending, which was so powerful. I will never forget…”

• Gone Home:

  • Groundbreaking personal story and emotional gut punch; first-person immersion in other lives.
  • [51:12, Greg] “...Jumping in and being like, okay, it’s a horror game... I keep reading about Sam and Lonnie... And then credits rolled, and I got up and I walked in and hugged my ex. Like, I just walked into... I just hugged her.”

• The Division 2:

  • Proof that Greg isn’t “just a single-player” guy; deep, meaningful multiplayer co-op memories.
  • [54:56, Greg] “Division two though was life… a game I sunk hundreds of hours into running around Washington D.C. platinuming that game again, having a crew to run with.”

• Starfield:

  • The open-world RPG that finally “made Greg role play” and fundamentally changed how he approaches Western RPGs.
  • [57:49, Greg] “Starfield is that one that got me to role play. Starfield is the one that has changed the way I play RPGs going forward.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“These games come down to the games I have stories about. These are the games that transcended me just playing them. They are the ones where I'm like, oh, but this game did X, Y and Z and die.”
— Greg Miller [09:23]

“You know, I love Elena. You know, what up, Emily Rose?”
— Greg Miller roasting Tim about Uncharted picks [12:28]

“I always say, your first Fallout’s the specialist Fallout.”
— Greg Miller [57:49]

“Luminous, you know, has a bunch of different modes now, but in reality it is just, how long can you go?... it was like I felt like I was different, but I had no way of knowing. And when Electronic Symphony came, it is that rare occasion of... someone else recognizes that I'm this whatever, you know what I mean?”
— Greg Miller on why Lumines ‘counts’ for him [37:13]

“I will never forget Telltale... came to IGN... and it was me playing… I remember, like, getting to one of the final choices and just like that, like, the most painful sob from the back of someone just catching in their throat.”
— Greg Miller on Walking Dead’s finale [48:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction/Prompt Setup: [06:34–08:06]
• Greg Explains His Criteria: [08:06–09:27]
• Tim’s Guessing Game: [10:06–26:22]
• Locking in Tim’s List: [26:22–27:02]
• Greg Reveals & Breaks Down His List: [29:34–63:05]
  • Highlight: Ghostbusters Origin Story [31:15]
  • Metal Gear “future of games” story [31:44]
  • Infamous platinum hunt [39:24]
  • The emotional punch of Walking Dead [44:05]
  • Gone Home—a true story moment [51:12]
  • Starfield: RPG epiphany [57:49]
• Honorable Mentions Left Off List: [64:16]
  • God of War 2018, Death and Return of Superman, Super Mario World, Patapon, Ocarina of Time
• Closing Reflections and Super Chats: [64:20–65:56]

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Tone & Language

• Signature Kinda Funny style: irreverent, funny, but deeply personal and honest.
• Many stories are “tired” in the sense that longtime fans have heard them, but Greg’s enthusiasm and ability to tie games to his lived experience are infectious and relatable.
• Tim and Greg’s banter gives the episode its energy; plenty of jokes about old games, anti-Nintendo ribbing, and loving callbacks.

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Outro & Call to Action

• [63:05, Tim] “It's nice to kind of get to know us individually because there are a lot of new listeners and viewers that might not know these stories.”
• Plans to do more "10 games" lists for other Kinda Funny crew in the future.
• Reminder to support Kinda Funny on Spotify & Patreon if you appreciate this kind of content.

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Final List: "10 Games to Know Greg Miller"

1. DC Universe Online
2. Ghostbusters (Sega Master System)
3. Starfield
4. Infamous
5. Lumines: Electronic Symphony
6. Metal Gear Solid (PS1)
7. The Division 2
8. WWF No Mercy (N64)
9. Telltale’s The Walking Dead (Season 1)
10. Gone Home

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If you want an episode bursting with stories of classic games, personal milestones, and pure Kinda Funny personality, this one is unmissable.

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[Greg Miller]

Hello, Timothy. How are you?

[Tim Geddes]

Very good. Great. Love that sweater.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Tim Geddes]

Yes, you look good in it.

[Greg Miller]

We had a whole conversation on Games Daily. Is Andy holding out on us keeping all the great designs for his own merch and not our merch?

[Tim Geddes]

You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

And so I never want to fire somebody on the air, but. But this is the closest I've ever.

[Tim Geddes]

Getting close. We're getting close.

[Greg Miller]

Do it every day.

[Tim Geddes]

You also talked on Games Daily a lot about Metroid Prime 4 and your thoughts. Cool. Great. Lovely. We're one month away from Metroid Prime 4. I just realized that as I was reading this and that is incredibly exciting, man. We also have Kirby Air Riders in between that. It's a good time to be a Nintendo fan. Okay. Kirby Riders. What was that? What is that?

[Greg Miller]

Kirby Air Riders play bar. Do we care? You know what I mean? Like, I'm never yucking your yummy.

[Tim Geddes]

Sounds like you're yucking some yums.

[Greg Miller]

Whatever.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, look at this guy over here. Oh, man. I love my Nintendo Switch too. I love it. I play all the games. You don't play. You don't play.

[Greg Miller]

I play zob.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Galaxy. No, I'm not. I wouldn't. I ended up just doing all the side missions.

[Tim Geddes]

Doing side missions.

[Greg Miller]

Kirby, though. Tim, remind me, let's go back through the past Gamescast. How many reviews have you done in the past month, Tim?

[Tim Geddes]

Last month.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. You're not even on my level. You're not.

[Tim Geddes]

I mean, I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

I'm sorry that I couldn't.

[Tim Geddes]

I'm not calling out bless you. Bless is also not out here talking about how much she loves.

[Greg Miller]

How many outer worlds playthroughs have you done for review? All right. I'm not talking about you playing real games. Stop playing baby games over here. Okay, Mr. Zombie, turn on your goddamn PC. You know what I'm doing over there? I got an RTX thing doing this stuff. Yeah, yeah. This is the game down there. How many episodes? The dispatch you pay and the.

[Tim Geddes]

This is the Gamescast. Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple podcast to get all of our shows ad free and a daily exclusive. Greg Way. What's it today, Greg?

[Greg Miller]

Today's Greg Way is in the thing, isn't it?

[Tim Geddes]

20 minutes about the best beyond moments and our indie games screwed.

[Greg Miller]

There you go.

[Tim Geddes]

Want to know are they screwed? No. Yeah, of course.

[Greg Miller]

One person's panicking.

[Tim Geddes]

One person's panicking about the youth. Oh, no. The youth at indie games. Yeah, that seems like a silly thing to worry about.

[Greg Miller]

You know what?

[Tim Geddes]

Have you seen Tick Tock? Just watch the Gregory, all right? They hold the little stupid mics.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, they do.

[Tim Geddes]

You know what I'm talking about? They're always like, I like indie games. That's literally all I get on my Tick Tock is the algorithm talking about indie games. Everybody Today after games daily or you already got games daily after this you're going to get a sponsored Nvidia arc raider stream. The boys going back into arc raiders. Mike's insane. Mike's telling me all these stories about his adventures in arc raiders problem.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. He is the toxicity. Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

It sounds like everyone is though. Because it sounds like every story I hear about the game. That sounds awesome.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Is some type of spy infiltration fuck over.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Right.

[Greg Miller]

But that's what you're doing when you're doing the squads, apparently. You know what I mean? Solo play. You're out there like me. We're just. I'm just harvesting my stuff. I'm just getting my face. I'm moving off my life.

[Tim Geddes]

How screwed have you been in your experience? Like are you getting screwed left and right or is it kind of like

[Greg Miller]

I hosted the review yesterday and so I had played all Thursday afternoon and then a bunch on Sunday night, so not nearly as much as Andy or Mike. And I'm just doing it solo because I was playing on the Xbox handheld then I was, you know, playing at my desk a little bit. So I don't have the crazy stories I have the better ones of. I'm going towards extraction and all of a sudden, you know, this guy pops up and he's like, don't shoot with the emote. And then I was like don't shoot. And then we came and then another guy came with don't shoot and we ran together as a little trio. No mics, just doing our thing.

[Tim Geddes]

Nice little journey moment.

[Greg Miller]

And then I've had the other one where I was talking about where I immediately. That's where the TikTok one comes from, where I came out. Literally load in, come out the gate. Snipe. Some guys just camped on spawn like why, what are you doing? You know.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. Tough time. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm. Whining. But now it's time for the topic of the show. A couple weeks ago a trend was going around the Internet about 10 games to get to know you. Everyone's posting really shitty looking images of themselves surrounded by a bunch of video game box art. Some people's look better than others. You didn't get get to do it yet, Greg.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, you guys did a gamescast last week about it where you ran through yours. But I was off on assignment, I believe or doing a review or just to you know, whatever. I was. I was doing some kind of work.

[Tim Geddes]

We did.

[Greg Miller]

Somebody's got to play the games, and they get insulted that, you know, I'm

[Tim Geddes]

here trying to celebrate Nintendo and you're out here, like, talking. I come in, all I want to do is talk about Metroid Prime 4, Kirby Air riders, and I get this guy over here making faces, not even playing. We're going to celebrate Kirby Kirby Air Rider. Kirby, Kirby. Yeah, the game. Did y' all play Forgotten Land Star Crossed Worlds?

[Greg Miller]

No, I did.

[Tim Geddes]

You did it.

[Greg Miller]

I did. Me and Ben.

[Tim Geddes]

Did you beat it? No, it was, like, 20 minutes long.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo doesn't mean Air Riders is going to be good.

[Tim Geddes]

Today we're getting to know Greg Miller through 10 different video games.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I'm excited about my game, so it'll be interesting.

[Tim Geddes]

Going to know Barrett, Courtney, Joey, Noel, and cool Greg, who slyly made his own image and sent it in. So I'm very excited to talk about all that. I do not know these games. Barrett does not know these games. He knows his. Greg knows his. But what we did last week when it was me blessing Andy and Mike, we kind of, like, had a couple conversations before we got to the list. One of the conversations was, what does the. What does this prompt even mean to you? And how does it differ from necessarily the top list, your favorite list, the best list, the blah, blah, blah.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Tim Geddes]

Because, like, what does it mean to get to know Greg Miller? And then I kind of want to guess your list a little bit.

[Greg Miller]

Of course.

[Tim Geddes]

So let's start with prompt number one. Greg, what does this mean to you?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, the rubric for picking this one was interesting because I listened to you guys on the car ride home when I. You did yours, and when you were debating it, I was like, I don't. I don't think it would be hard for me. And I. While we. While I was driving, I did the little thing where I opened up a thing and just dictated games to it. And I went beyond 10. But I really did fell when I got to the 10th slot and I had on my list, I have up to 15 I could see switching out. And that's when I really started noodling it of what it is. And I think Mike did a pretty great job of explaining it out of like, in an elevator to somebody. Like, again, these aren't necessarily my favorite games of all time. I put in a lot of stuff here that, like, this is my favorite in that genre or this one has obviously changed my life and how it went. Like, I sprinkled all of those in there into a like. Of like, as lame as it might sound, like, what the Games in my DNA would be of like, what. What are the building blocks of me? And I know that doesn't mean they're all old, obviously, but I mean, like, in terms of like, oh, you know that Greg likes this kind of game and this is the one he would put here and do that kind of thing. And I think it comes down to. And this is where I think I'm a very boring list. These games come down to the games I have stories about. These are the games that transcended me just sense me just playing them. They are the ones where I'm like, oh, but this game did X, Y and Z and die. And I think that makes my list so easy to guess.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what I'm excited about too is at the end of going through your section, I also am going to make you choose the one game on your list. If you had to choose the one to define you, what would it be? But you're. You're right in the sense that out of everyone here, kind of funny, I feel like yours is one of the easier ones to at least start to. To throw some things out that'll probably be on the list. But I think that's also because compared to everyone, kind of funny, you've talked about video games a lot longer and on many, many more shows.

[Greg Miller]

Sure, sure.

[Tim Geddes]

Where people listen to that. So obviously that leads me to my first guess. Universe Online. That has to be. No, you can't. We're just, we're just having the conversation now.

[Greg Miller]

But get your super.

[Tim Geddes]

Feel free to pop into the chats

[Greg Miller]

with your list because I'm directing it

[Tim Geddes]

and I have all the images. I do know what, what's on there. So I, I don't want to guess either way. Yeah. But I feel like DC Universe Online obviously going to be there. Right? Metal Gear Solid. And this is where it gets complicated, you know, because it gets complicated because I'd say that Metal Gear Solid one is probably the, you know, obviously by definition the origin point for you because you didn't play the Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid Snake, whatever the hell back on the msx.

[Greg Miller]

No, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Metal Gear Solid was your, your entry point there, but metal gear solid 2, I feel was a little bit more from my memory of your stories. That's the one that you. The dog tags and playing over and over and over and all that stuff. But of course it's Peace Walker, not Maker. Yeah. Metal Gear Solid, Peace Walker on the psp. And I feel like you are the number one, like Ride or Die, Peace

[Greg Miller]

Walker guy every knows that. Right.

[Tim Geddes]

So I feel like it's going to be Peace Walker. I feel like it has to be. Because even though you probably have more stories about the other ones, Peace Walker is the. You want that associated with Greg Miller the most. I was in the shower. I was butt naked thinking about you today.

[Greg Miller]

You always are.

[Tim Geddes]

I am. And Patapon kept rattling around my mind. And it gets hard because I'm like when we're talking about just 10 games.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

But it's also one of those things where I associate that so much with Greg. People associate Crash Bandicoot with me. Crash Bandicoot didn't make my list.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Crash Team Racing, very close to it. But did not make the top 10. And I think Patapon might be a similar story. So I don't think Patapon makes the list.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay, we move over to Naughty Dog. There has to be a naughty. There has to be one. I really think there has to be one.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, I'm listening up.

[Tim Geddes]

I'm listening because Again, Greg Miller, PlayStation 3. I really think that the beyond days to get to know you, you have to have some beyond in there, right?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't see you as the last of us guy. I see you more as an Uncharted guy. I see you caring a lot about Elena.

[Greg Miller]

You know, I love Elena. You know, what up, Emily Rose?

[Tim Geddes]

But which uncharted. It's not one. It's not four. Not lion.

[Greg Miller]

Leonard says that he only gave one uncharted at 10.

[Tim Geddes]

I understand.

[Greg Miller]

In review two. Everybody remember.

[Tim Geddes]

Exactly, exactly. And that's where I get kind of caught up. And. But then the thing is, does Greg Miller put Uncharted 3 on his 10 games to get to know me? I. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes. You giving it a 10? I. I think of that as one of your most important reviews, most iconic

[Greg Miller]

reviews, most infamous reviews.

[Tim Geddes]

So I'm going to go Uncharted 3, Ghostbusters. Which one you really love Ghostbusters.

[Greg Miller]

I do love Ghostbusters. I don't know if you know these

[Tim Geddes]

four young boys, these strapping lads going out there, old men, whatever you want to call them, they're busting ghosts. Right. And I think that your old Sega

[Greg Miller]

Master System goes right.

[Tim Geddes]

Sega Master System, Ghostbusters. If we're going old school, like, what is the game that defined Greg's childhood? I think I might have to go with that. Okay, I'm gonna put that on there. A wrestling game. No mercy. That's easy.

[Greg Miller]

It's no mercy. It's no mercy on the Nintendo 64, not WrestleMania 2000. You don't think.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't think so.

[Greg Miller]

Not. I don't remember the WWWE on this. 2K24. Wait. Yeah. 25s right now. 2K24. I did say.

[Tim Geddes]

You know, we're all.

[Greg Miller]

We're all being a bunch of idiots.

[Tim Geddes]

You know What?

[Greg Miller]

Wrestling evil.

[Tim Geddes]

I know, but to get to know you. But that's. See, that's a good point. To get to know Greg. Greg is critic. And you also are a proponent of modern games. Like, I think that you. You push that and you do care. And who coined the term old game? Old game is old.

[Greg Miller]

Greg Miller did.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, Greg Miller did. That's a good point. And you. You have swayed my vote, which. Which might be screwing the prediction here. It doesn't matter, though. Yeah, I like that wwe.

[Greg Miller]

I.

[Tim Geddes]

But, yeah, I don't know which one necessarily. I guess 2k24, just like whatever the newest one is. That's good. So not two K20. That was the problem.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[Tim Geddes]

That was the bad one. I'll tell you what's not on the list. A Pokemon game. And if one is, I swear to fucking God, I'm gonna punch you in the face. Okay,

[Greg Miller]

I thought about it just to.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I thought about making a fake one, but I would submit that would just be all Nintendo games.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay. What is Greg Miller? We already decided it on a lot of those things. There's the wrestling. There's the Ghostbusters. There's the metal gear Persona 4 Golden.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Geddes]

I'm iffy on that one.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Tim Geddes]

But I'm gonna. I'm gonna lock it in. I'm gonna stick with that.

[Greg Miller]

I appreciate it.

[Tim Geddes]

Mario Kart. Double Dash is calling to me just from your. Your stories of friendship.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Tim Geddes]

You know, playing games. You like that. You talk about that a lot.

[Greg Miller]

I do like that. I do talk about that a lot.

[Tim Geddes]

But again, I do think that you will probably air more on the modern side. You love the, oh, I'm missing big open world RPG stuff. Oh, Starfield. Let's put Starfield on it. Let's fucking do it. Let's put Starfield on the list, because what else is it going to be?

[Greg Miller]

Fuck those Fallout Games.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. That's the thing.

[Greg Miller]

Do anything.

[Tim Geddes]

But again, Greg Miller. Fuck that out. I think Greg has something to say. It's a shit list. You know what I mean? It's like you have something to say.

[Greg Miller]

You got to have something to say, because I just.

[Tim Geddes]

What Fallout. Am I putting for you? Like, is it just New Vegas 76, of course. Oh, man. No, I don't think so, though. I. I think you'd put Starfield over 76.

[Greg Miller]

What about Fallout 3? You know how much I love.

[Tim Geddes]

Because you have the story of Starfield.

[Greg Miller]

This is the story of Starfield.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't really remember your story about New Vegas if it's New Vegas or three for you, but I'd probably say it's New Vegas.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

Just because I think most people say that from my understanding.

[Greg Miller]

Your understanding. Like you're studying chimpanzees in the wild. Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

All right, let's just go through console by console here.

[Greg Miller]

You get in there because we have

[Tim Geddes]

the nes and I don't think any of that's happening, obviously. You were Sega, kid. I think that Ghostbusters is probably going to cover that. Nothing on. I mean, pretty much Nintendo I think is a wash up until probably if. If even double dash, but that's probably not gonna happen. Oh, Animal Crossing, New Horizons. Animal Crossing, New Horizons. Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

Put it on the list. Barrett, by any chance, do you know how many I've named like that you've locked in?

[Greg Miller]

He says like. Yeah. What number of his ranting is he on?

[Tim Geddes]

Three and a half. No. Okay. Okay. You misunderstood it. Wait, what? I was asking how many he's listed, period.

[Greg Miller]

Not how many has he gotten. Right.

[Tim Geddes]

No, no, I'm good. I'll get.

[Greg Miller]

I'll get three and a half.

[Tim Geddes]

That's very funny.

[Greg Miller]

Talking for seven minutes. Thought you were asking how many like you've nailed. No, no, I understand. Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't know how many games you named. That's why a lot of. It was a lot of games. Yeah. At least 10. Yeah. But. Okay. I'm trying to think where I'm going. Let me keep talking this out and then we'll do.

[Greg Miller]

I like how you are trying to detective it. I want to lock into what makes up Greg Miller's. Yeah. What would it be there?

[Tim Geddes]

So, all right, I'm going to start writing super chats. I'm writing these. What's up?

[Greg Miller]

Do you want to bring in the super chats? I think they're guess.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. Super chat in. For your guesses on. I'm Greg Miller here. He says Dark Horse, Pokemon, Violet and then Persona 4 Golden and then Parker PDAD Rail says thanks for all y' all do. Got a new card and updated my Patreon yearly. Awesome meeting you both at the parade. Much love, xoxo. Thank you so much. Great meeting you. As well. You are the best. All right, all right. So I'm gonna put Sega Master System, Ghostbusters. I'm gonna put WWE 2K24. Why not animal Crossing, New Horizons? I'm going to put Metal Gear Solid

[Greg Miller]

piece while you do that. Daniel Irwin Super Chats. Hey, Tim and Greg. Sending a birthday tax from the Sony Pictures lot. Producing my first indie feature, Think Scream mixed with ee.

[Tim Geddes]

Everything.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, everything, everywhere, all at once. Thank you. It's called Body Count on Kickstarter, if you're all interested. Happy birthday, Daniel. And that's awesome that you're doing that right now.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay. Ghostbusters, wwe, Animal Crossing, New Horizons. Peace. I keep writing Peacemaker, Peace Walker, Uncharted 3, Starfield. So, Persona or Golden God of War. You've said many times in recent years the God of War 2018 is your favorite game of all time. Your. Your number one game of all time. Best game of all time. I don't remember the exact qualifications, but

[Greg Miller]

for some reason you ain't feeling it.

[Tim Geddes]

For some reason. I don't know if it makes this list, but then you're a dad now.

[Greg Miller]

I am a dad now. His name's Ben. I love him.

[Tim Geddes]

And that makes. That swings me back. It's on the list. It's on the list.

[Greg Miller]

It's on the list.

[Tim Geddes]

God of War.

[Greg Miller]

Oh. Oh, I see.

[Tim Geddes]

It's on the list. Oh.

[Greg Miller]

DC Universe Online, JJ Baseball 23 Super Chats and says Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a lock. Never forget Cassandra. I know Cassandra.

[Tim Geddes]

I like that. Okay, I'm gonna write it down. Mario Karts double. All right, let's see.

[Greg Miller]

Let's fucking frame.

[Tim Geddes]

4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. I have 11 right now on my list. I'm gonna keep going, making sure I'm. Hidden genres, hidden Systems, because. Yeah. PS1. You love the PS1, but it would be Metal Gear Solid one. Is there two metal gears on your list? I don't think so.

[Greg Miller]

I don't think so.

[Tim Geddes]

PlayStation 2 was a big deal for you, But. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that any. Because it'd be Metal Gear Solid 2. None of the wrestling games. You're not a big JRPG guy. A lot of the franchise stuff I don't. Grand Theft Auto like. A lot of these things are games you like, but I don't know if they're the big ones. Xbox, Not Splinter Cell, not. Halo, not.

[Greg Miller]

You already have that covered with Starfield or never forget.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Becky lynch, what are you up to?

[Tim Geddes]

Okay, okay, let's piece in the chat,

[Greg Miller]

Daiji says, what was Greg playing a lot at ign? You've named a lot of them. Yeah, Pat Ponds out there.

[Tim Geddes]

Uncharted's.

[Greg Miller]

I was in the PlayStation team. So there I was. I was cemented in that PlayStation ecosystem.

[Tim Geddes]

Infamous. Cam Unelli brings up infamous. And that is the type of thing that would make this list because of what the list is. Right. This is not necessarily Best or whatever. It's the PS3. I was saying this earlier. The beyond game for Greg. Tavin Bothels has gone home. How have I not thought about the sad games?

[Greg Miller]

Sad dad. Sad dad.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. I'm gonna put gone home.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

That is a Greg Miller game for sure. All right. Monster Hunter. Alex is bringing up Monster Hunter, but all up saying Walking Dead. Yeah. Walking Dead season one. Walking Dead season one. Put it on the list. All right, that. That's like, I don't know, 14 games or something. I'm going to lock in my prediction of 10. So let's see. Ghostbusters. I'm keeping it.

[Greg Miller]

Which one?

[Tim Geddes]

Sega Masters.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Yeah. Not Rise of the Ghost Lord.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't think so.

[Greg Miller]

Of course not. That's a good. You know Ghostbusters, the video game was the third movie. It was the last time we got the four boys back together.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Ghostbuster. Spirits unleashed on me. And Anne played a shit ton of it.

[Tim Geddes]

Never Stop Spider Man.

[Greg Miller]

I don't think all the suits remember staying.

[Tim Geddes]

I mean, I fucking love it. It was almost on my list. Animal Crossing, New Horizons. Yeah, dude, I gotta keep that peace, Walker. Obviously. Gotta keep that Uncharted. I might cut. Starfield. I might cut. Persona 4 Golden. I might cut.

[Greg Miller]

When are you starting to list all over us?

[Tim Geddes]

No, I'm just. I'm just like. I'm trying to see if, like, my locks. I already have four. God of War. Fuck it. I'm keeping it. D.C. definitely keeping it. Assassin's Creed Odyssey might cut. Mario Kart. Double Dash might cut. Gone Home. Keeping walking Dead season one. Keeping 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. So I only get two more to lock in here. Uncharted 3, Starfield. Persona 4, Assassin's Creed. Mario Kart. Mario Kart gets the cut.

[Greg Miller]

I'm going to the chat over here. Kevin says, Nah, Persona 4 Golden stays. Ghastly one says, DC Universe for sure. Deji says there. There is at very least one superhero game on there. Surely Darth Entity follows up. I think it's Batman. Arkham City. Spoon agrees to you. I don't think Persona 4 Golden makes the list. Tundra Boy calls out Phantom Pain. Any Lego games? Ghastly ones.

[Tim Geddes]

I'm getting rid of Assassin's Creed. That's crazy, because he's the Assassin's Creed guy.

[Greg Miller]

Kirby Air Riders. Barrett. Can you believe.

[Tim Geddes]

I can't believe it.

[Greg Miller]

Go, go. Monster Truck. Says before your eyes, my guy.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, I think Gone Home keeps that slot.

[Greg Miller]

Keeps the crybaby.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, I'm keeping Starfield

[Greg Miller]

A universally 5,

[Tim Geddes]

6, 7, 8, 9. Okay, I'm down to 1, and it's either Uncharted 3 or Persona 4 Golden. The fact that we have God of War on the list, and I'm sticking with that, makes me a little stickier on the Uncharted 3 thing. And I. We're not getting any Vita Love here, which, like, I feel is sacrilege.

[Greg Miller]

Some would say.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. But I think that your memories and time with Persona 4 have soured over the years. The meat, the levels of importance of getting to know you and what that means to you might have changed. I'm gonna keep Uncharted. I'm gonna get rid of Persona 4. All right, lock in my list.

[Greg Miller]

So read it.

[Tim Geddes]

Ghostbusters.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

WWE 2K24, Animal Crossing, New Horizons, Metal Gear Solid, Peace Walker, Uncharted 3, Starfield, God of War, DC Universe Online, Gone Home, Walking Dead Season 1. I'm locking it.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, he's locked it in. Barrett.

[Tim Geddes]

So before you show Greg's list, can you look at it and tell me how many did I get out of the 10?

[Greg Miller]

Three and a half.

[Tim Geddes]

You got five.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, 50%.

[Tim Geddes]

Fifty percent. I'll take that. And I'm very, very interested in finding out what the other five are and what the five I got right are. And we're going to do that right after a quick word from our sponsor. This episode is brought to you by a absolutely amazing and free way that you could support Kind of Funny. Very often y' all ask, what's the best way to support Kind of Funny? Not with money, but with our love and our support. And right now, the best way you can do that is by supporting us on Spotify. We've been getting a lot of really good energy, good juice going with the support we've been getting on Spotify, and Spotify are starting to notice. So if y' all could do me a favor, even if you don't normally listen to us on Spotify, it would go such a long way. If you can go to the pages for the Kind of Funny podcast, Kind of funny games daily Kind of funny games cast and kind of Funny in review and follow them on Spotify. Go rate them as high as you want to. Rate them as accurately as you want to. But if I'm being real, I'd really prefer if you just did as high as you're willing to go. It would go such a long way for us. We have video on Spotify now and that's an amazing opportunity for kind of funny to get in front of an entire new audience. YouTube, been there, done that. We, you know, are kind of where we're probably going to be forever. But on Spotify, the potential is limitless. And that is all up to you and your support. So thank you very much. Wherever you listen to us, wherever you watch us, wherever you put your hard earned dollars, we really, really appreciate you. But we always want to be here for you. Whether it's free or not. We love you. Thank you so much. Disney wants to know, are you ready for Marvel Studios Thunderbolts, the new av, now streaming on Disney plus?

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[Tim Geddes]

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[Tim Geddes]

That's cool then. Marvel Studios Thunderbolts, the New Avengers, rated PG 13 now streaming on. You guessed it, Disney Plus. Before you show me the list two that I did forget. Ocarina of Time in Super Mario World. Plinkerton, though, I think is the. The real winner. That's the. What makes the list. Is that the name of the album?

[Greg Miller]

Pinkerton. Pinkerton is chat.

[Tim Geddes]

That's the best friend. Yeah. I don't know. So, yeah, maybe those make the list. But let's look at the list. Greg, tell me all about it.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, you were on the money for a lot of it, right? You did really, really well out there, I think. Yeah. The games that are at my d. Do want to say one thing you've missed because I have waffled on it over the years back and forth. Metal Gear Solid, Peace Walker is back as my number one game of all time. I still love God of War 2018, but it's like I come back to Peace Walker too much and think about it too much and have replayed it too many times now to not be like, no, no, no, this is. That's not taking away from Cory Bar, like how much I love 2018 and what special game it is. But also, you see, the Peace Walker is not on this list right here. You nailed it in terms of the conversation of like, well, which version of this, do you pick? And what do you do here? And da, da, da, da, da. And so, yeah, I mean, to start with the conversation I'm already having, Metal Gear Solid is on here, right? And I think again, when we're talking about me at my DNA level, of what games are to me, again, I know I've just been saying the same stories for 18 years now, but, you know, without Ghostbusters on the Sega Master System, I'm not here. I was a Ghostbusters fan before I was a video game fan. As a kid, my mom made the wrong turn at Toys R Us, took me down the video game aisle to get to the real Ghostbuster toys. And as we were walking, I caught that no Ghost logo and stopped, turned, slammed my finger. I was like, what is that? Mom said it was a video game. And I was like, I want that. She explained what a video game was. And that's where, you know, they bought me Ghostbusters for my birthday. Uncle Mike bought me the Sega Master System, and we were off to the races. In that same vein, I would then turn your eyes to metal. You're solid. Again, a tired story, I know, but stick with me if you haven't heard it. You know, I had gotten in N64 and had really enjoyed it and was playing a lot of stuff, but I felt like, okay, maybe games won't be with me forever. And there was a conversation with a friend who I hadn't seen since junior high at a high school homecoming where you're still playing games. Like, yeah, but. And I didn't express it as well, but I was like, yeah, but I think I might be falling out of it. I don't know. Like they, you know, these games are fun. And like, obviously the wrestling was fun and kart is fun and yadda yadda, but it was. I was looking for more and couldn't express that. And then me and Poe rented Metal gear solid on PS1, and I was like, oh, my God, like, this is the future of video games. I'm playing a movie. And like, that just changed my life in such a definitive way. You know, staying with the N64 thing. Yep. N64 wrestling game had to make it here. I always default to no Mercy because it is. If you're an audio listener, it's no Mercy on my list, I guess. Maybe I should read my list. If you're an audio listener.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So in no particular order, DC Universe Online, Ghostbusters on Master System, Starfield, Infamous, Infamous, Luminous Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear solid, the Division 2 WWF no mercy. Telltale the Walking Dead gone home. Staying in the vein. Then. Yeah. One of the wrestling games had to make it, you know, Got me.

[Tim Geddes]

That's the point five.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. No, I think why some point five was for one of them having kind of a metal gear.

[Tim Geddes]

But I. I guess no Mercy. Then you convinced me out of it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, no Mercy. It could have been WrestleMania 2000. I think WrestleMania 2000 might have been the more watershed moment of loving WCW NWO revenge. Having. It was so hard to go back to the acclaim games like War Zone and Attitude after playing them, because they were so why doesn't everything control this way? Why would I want to do combos? And so when it was that THQ and AKI were gonna then go make, they lost the license to WCW, picked up WWF and made WrestleMania 2000. Holy shit. But no Mercy was the better game. But then no Mercy is also tied up in stories of Me of the Carts. If you remember, the cartridges were faulty on the first round, so I lost all my progress over and over again. Like the fourth or fifth time I tried to return it, I was like, you know what? Sold everything back to Funko Land and bought a PlayStation, which is where it set me off. And then, yeah, you start, you know, wading out into more modern things, I think. But again, I'm a modern man. DC Universe Online, you know, my most played video game of all time when they last checked me and it was 900 hours put into that game. Right? The only MMO I've ever lost myself to. You know, the story that I know is tired as well. There is. Remember, I was Catholic school. For the first 13 years of my education, I did not go to. I did not go to school, not in a uniform until I went to Mizzou. And I remember definitively on a walk home in like fifth grade, a friend asking me what I thought heaven was like. And my pitch was, I think you die and then, like, you get to your own personal heaven. You'd go, you know what I mean? And he's like, all right, what was yours been? I, like, I would live in Metropolis and have superpowers and it would be so like DC Universe Online, I've always said, is literally my definition of heaven. So the fact that it came out was as good as it was the fact that it's still funny fucking going, are you kidding me? More than a decade. Outrageous that this game is still around and I can still go keep the tires on it. And I do often drop in just to around. But Loved that game and had so many great memories of rolling new tunes, you know, playing like I'm not, as you all know, the online gamer, which we'll get to a second with the vision. So having this thing and making, you know, the. The guild for kind of funny or for IGN super fans at the time and then meeting random people who I then did start. Okay, I'll see you tomorrow. We'd sign on and play together and run the same raids and do the the same things and grind out missions and stuff. Like people I, you know. His name was Anthony. He shot me a email not too many months ago and we chatted up for a little bit like the first time in years talking, you know what I mean? That game is just so, so special to me. And that's what I think you start to go into when you get to the modern games. Right. You, you were nailing it of like there has to be some Vita representation on this. I love Luminous. I think Luminous is the best puzzle video game there is. And I'm putting it mainly up against Tetris, another game I love.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, I didn't think about Tetris.

[Greg Miller]

Luminous is so much more firm, I think dynamic. I think there's just more going on. You're more in control. I think obviously you can jump to Tetris effect and how great Tetras effect was. I'm not taking away from that. Luminous, however, has always kind of been Tetris effect in terms of the music, the visuals. This thing changes all this amazing stuff and effects happening on screen. You feel like you're doing all this crazy and it's awesome. There's a new one coming up. I cannot wait for Luminous Arise. But Electronic Symphony was a Vita launch game. It was the opposite, I would say, of most of your favorite games going online, Tim. I don't know if it happened for you as much, but I remember, man, I was so good in my friend group at video games and Smash Bros. Yeah. And for me it was NCAA football in Madden. Right. And when finally online came around for those games and you got to go out into the wild and get your rocked like, oh, I'm not actually good

[Tim Geddes]

for me though I will say my one claim to fame, it was Tony Hawk.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

And that was someone else had that experience. It wasn't me.

[Greg Miller]

Well, that's my thing with Luminous where luminesce like, you know, I fell in love with luminesce on PSP like that, you know, when I bought my PSP after graduating college. Luminous and everybody's Or Hot Shots, Golf, Open T and Ghostbusters on UMD are the three things I bought with my psp. And I would sit there and play Luminesce. And I remember it was at the time me and my ex would pass it back and forth on runs. And Luminous, you know, has a bunch of different modes now, but in reality it is just, how long can you go? And it would be when it was my run, I was talking about an hour and a half, two hours before I would fail and pass it back to her. And she would be like 30 minutes, you know what I mean? So it was like I felt like I was different, but I had no way of knowing. And when Electronic Symphony came, it is that rare occasion of. It was just the, you know, reviewers that had it. But, like, me and Dale north traded stuff back and forth. And I remember him posting somewhere, like when it came out, like, Greg Miller's really fucking good at Lumen. It was like, oh, man. Like, that's so cool that, like, someone else recognizes that I'm this whatever, you know what I mean?

[Tim Geddes]

So I'm interested in this pick a specifically Electronic Sympathy. I know you just explained all of that.

[Greg Miller]

But then to dive into it, it was that the Vita has a number of reasons it fucking failed. It did not need a front touch, it did not need a back touch. It didn't need to be bubbles, it didn't need to be fucking 3G and all this shit. Luminesce Electronic Symphony, they start with Luminesce as they go on. How do you fucking change it? They start adding in power ups and changes. Da da. And in Luminous Electronic Symphony, it was the back touch that you would go to a certain place and with your combo and hit it and drop it and like, rack up crazy high scores. And it actually worked really well and it actually made the gameplay better. It was one of my favorite power ups they've added to the game where I was like, oh, this actually is a. I'm strategically gonna drop it here or there. I know when I'm saying I'm building it up, when am I gonna go bam?

[Tim Geddes]

Is this pick for you kind of a mix though, of the pick would be to get to know you, it's luminous. But this is also. You need Vita because that is who you are.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. 100. Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I think there needs to be a Luminous game on here for me. And. Yeah, something that can then represent Vita. I think so. Well, yeah, you call it out like Persona 4 Golden. I adored and reviewed for IGN and that was on the heels of having played Persona 4 on PS2, Persona 3 on PS2, reviewing Persona 3 Fez on PSP, like I love all that but like as we've gone through on the show this year, I'm just. Yeah, this year I'm not JRPG guy. And so like it isn't. It's similar to me with Stick with me Taylor Swift fandom of like I was. For many of you, if you're old, the first probably adult male you heard say I love Taylor Swift. Like I showed up at IGN banging on about the fucking Taylor Swift debut album. Like I was listening to Tim McGraw in Columbia, Missouri, right? And like I remember that was like quaint and funny. Oh, Greg likes Taylor Swift. Hahaha. In life she's obviously so humongous, right? But at some point that fandom, the Swifties and how they engage with it became so much more like, oh, I'm not that, not that I'm talking about that. I respect that. I just don't. I can't, I can't claim that my Taylor Swift fandom is as intense as that. It's the same thing with like Persona where Persona eventually broke into this huge like, okay, okay, you guys are into it to another level than I am. I just enjoyed the game a lot.

[Tim Geddes]

Blah, blah.

[Greg Miller]

So yeah, luminous over there for more model thing infamous up there from Sucker Punch, right? Again, a quaint idea to talk about now this PlayStation 3 game. But before we were getting decent superhero games, we were just getting garbage superhero license games. And so when it was, guess what? The folks who did Sly Cooper are this Sony owned studio called Sucker Punch, they are going to go and do their own superhero game where you can be a good guy or a bad guy in an open world and run around and do it was like, no, no way. That was such a dream game for me, especially being on the PlayStation team at that time. And then to get it and have it just be so good of running around Empire City and being Col McGrath and having these electricity powers and the good ending, the bad ending. And I wrote about it at the time, right? Like we got review code for infamous, right? When I got divorced or was, you know, me and my ex wife were like, we're gonna split up or whatever. And so it was these like coming home with this game, I had waited forever and me and Portillo in this sad apartment, you know what I mean, playing this thing non stop and how much I threw myself into it and the platinum journey for it, I always talk about, you know what I mean? Like again, stories of again. I'm old. Taking digital, taking my digital camera, taking pictures of the screen because I had one fucking blast shard left to find and there was no way to find it. Like easily taking and then going block by block at my desk at IGN with a red Sharpie and crossing out every building, every section, every quadrant until I found this final fucking blast shard. Right? Like, that is so tied up in gaming and who I am in that experience. So how much I love that, how much I want to remaster, how much I want a collection.

[Tim Geddes]

So this, to me definitely is what I was talking about. Like the beyond representation.

[Greg Miller]

Sure, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

That PS3, er, PlayStation PS3 era. But that means no Uncharted, no Last of Us. Do you want to talk about that a bit?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, I don't think I ever. Last of Us. I love, but I don't think I was never. I mean, in terms of like, whose light burned brighter. Colin was always way more into that on beyond than I was and not into it, but like. Like, I don't know, there was something. It connected more with him. And I think I did connect so much with the Uncharted and the Pulp and like Nathan Drake. And again, you talk about the beyond era of it. I think especially with Walking Dead, you.

[Tim Geddes]

I.

[Greg Miller]

So much of a lot of this stuff is tied up in the up at Noon era. And I think we're so lucky with up at noon and then PlayStation first party during that PS3 time of suddenly the voices mattering like, you know, Uncharted wasn't just, this is a great game. It was. It's Nolan north and it's Emily Rose and it's their first. It's Emily's first gig out of acting school. And Nolan's been in all these million games and now, wait, hold on. He's in this and he's in that now he's into a million different things. It was really explosion of that. And so Uncharted as a franchise holds such a special place in my heart. But I don't often think back to wanting to replay those games or do this whole thing. You know, I. I enjoyed them for the movies and the blockbusters they were, but they didn't leave this lasting impact on me. I talk a lot about especially when we get into some of the other ones, like video games. Leaving a thumbprint on me. Like. And that's what I'm talking about. This DNA thing where I think Uncharted defines so much of that PS3 era and have it. We're talking about beyond and we're talking about PlayStation All Stars and we're, you know, doing the thing. But like, in terms of a game that like, like I can lock in and remember Empire City, you know what I mean? Like, that's infamous for me rather than Uncharted it. And so you can throw it back up for me, Barry. Just leave it up. You know, you move off of that and I think an easy transition to the Walking Dead, right? Like, you know, Telltale had been making adventure games point and click adventure games for a long time. And it was one of those where I always wanted to like a Telltale game. And it was always so fucking annoying because I'm not a point and click guy. So when they would do, I. I have this definitive memory of going to San Diego comic con for IGN, probably 2008, but maybe I'm wrong. And I had a demo at the Telltale booth and I use booth so loosely. It was a card table with a CRT on it, running strong, bad on Wii maybe. And it was like I went over there and did it and it was like, wow, like, every. And it wasn't like the other booths didn't suck. It was just Telltales that sucked. And it was like such a. Oh, okay, cool, we're doing this. And then, you know, Telltale started taking these shots and like, hey, we're gonna do Back to the Future. And I'm such a Back to the Future fan. I was like, okay. Like, I don't like adventure games. I don't like. I click on the coffee cup. You don't have what you need here. I try to combine coffee cup with ice. That's not what you do here. I hate that fucking shit. Like, it just doesn't feel like I'm playing a game at all. It feels like I'm doing menial tasks. And so back in the future, like, I've struggled through because the story was so good up until it totally wasn't, but it was like, okay, cool. And then I. And I reviewed those tries and I think. And then I reviewed the Jurassic park games, which were not good. And in the middle of all this, there was an event in San Francisco where they were like, hey, we're announcing two games. Come on Down. And I came down to do it right. And it was. They announced the Wolf Among Us. And they announced the Walking Dead. And so many people were stoked for the Wolf Among Us. And I didn't have any reference for that Fable series or anything, but I loved a little pudgy Comic book creator named Robert Kirkman. Oh, yeah. I fucking adored this guy named Robert KIRKMAN because in 2005, in my capstone class at Mizzou, my last thing before I graduated, working at the magazine, I had been talking about how much I loved zombie movies. And the next day, my editor Bob came in. He's like, you said you like zombie movies. Yeah. And he's like, you're gonna need to read this. And he handed me trade one and trade two of the Walking Dead. And he's like, this is an ongoing comic series. This is all that's out. This is all that's out, man. And I think you'd really dig it or whatever. And I fucking devoured them. And then at the end, it was like, there's this thing called Invincible or whatever. And I was like, oh, okay. You know what I mean? I started reading Invincible and that. I think I had to buy in sync singles at the time. I forget, though. But it was like. I know, it's hilarious if you're not a historian here of like. No one knew what the Walking Dead was. No one cared what the Walking Dead was. Comic books were not this giant crossover opportunity yet, especially independent comics. So I'm reading the Walking Dead over and over again, feeling like a man on an island about it. The first piece of watching Walking Dead merch I ever saw outside of the trades. Right. Do you know this story?

[Tim Geddes]

No, I don't remember a kind of.

[Greg Miller]

Jesus, that's going to be hard to ever get over. An IGN fan who really liked ign met Craig Harris, was like in New York for the. At the Nintendo store and was like, I'm gonna be here. Meet me up or whatever. I think it was one or two people came. One of them gave him a Walking Dead plush zombie that, like, the head came off with Velcro or whatever. It was just a cutesy thing or whatever. That man was Andrew Goldfarb.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, my God, I have not heard that.

[Greg Miller]

Greg love. Greg Miller loved Walking Dead. So he sent this thing that he had gotten at whatever collection or whatever. And it was like, that's like how Scare shit. Like. So anyways, you jump to this event. They announced the Walking Dead game. And I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? No one knows what this is. This is amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I remember doing the Comic Con interviews about that with the creators. They had nothing. They just had like, not even. Not even the key art. They had, you know, like the concept art up on the wall or whatever. And it sounded so cool. And it definitely sounded like a game that was never gonna happen. And it would even if it did, it's gonna be point and click and shitty and yeti. Yeah. So when Walking Dead finally gets here, right? And it is what I want out of those kind of games. I know not every adventure fan wants, but it's just let's make choices. Let's just make choices. Let's see what. Let's have an interactive storybook here. Let's fucking do the thing they wanted to do in the movie Big with a comic book. You know what I mean? Choose your own adventure. And then the voice acting performance. And again, this is such a. Let's talk about up at noon. Dave Fenoy, Melissa Hutchinson, Gavin Hammond, Friends for life people. I still shoot the shit with talk to run into all the time, obviously, because we're so. We fucking stayed at Dave Fenoy's house when we.

[Tim Geddes]

Which is insane to think about.

[Greg Miller]

We went down to podcast with Kevin Smith. He stayed at Dave's house and podcasted with him in his backyard until the middle of the night. Like, you know, you talk about like. But that was like such a moment of like, whoa, wait a second. Voice acting is a thing. Let alone, whoa, wait a second, Walking Dead's about to be a thing. And like it was a rocket ship of like the success of this game, the success of these people, the success of the ip. But then outside of all that, how fucking good this game was like watching it and playing it moment to moment. Me and Mitch Dyer doing our little. Which started as just us going to a conference room and then started became content of filming it because ignore was like, we should I put these up or whatever. And then again like the finale, right. Of like spoilers for Walking Dead season one, which I know, hahaha. But like, you know, when Lee gets bit at the end of episode four, it was one of those like, oh my God, there's no way that they're gonna kill Lee Everett. Like that's just. You want to do that in a video game. You want to do that here. They're going to have some stupid hackneyed way to get out of it. And then to start episode five. And it'd be like, cool, all this shit's happening. Do you want to try to saw off your arm? And I'm like, I've read the comic, sir. There's no way this is going to work. It's been too long. But sure do. And you did it. And it didn't work. And he still dies and it still Failed. And it was like, whoa. And then have those conversations at the end, right, of never. I'm choking up right now. Never telling Clem you love her, right? Just tell her to keep her hair shorter. Do this Lee ever being somebody who really killed his wife. The game starts and you're waiting for the MacGuffin of like, oh, when is it? When are we getting the Andy Dufresne Shawshank Redemption? No, he killed his wife and he's not a good person. He did. It was like, whoa. And then to get that ending, which was so powerful. I will never forget Telltale. Notoriously, as you probably know, games came in pretty hot. Pretty hot. And didn't work well often. But when they finally had the episode done, like, they came to ign. Like, it was like, they finished it that afternoon and then came to ign. And we did it in the demo room. Room. And it was me playing. And it was a couple other people who. I'm not gonna name a bunch of different names, but, like, people in there playing. And I remember playing it and, like, getting to the choices and doing the thing in this giant, beautiful, you know, projector. Everybody in this theater playing. And I remember, like, getting to one of the final choices and just like that, like, the most painful sob from the back of someone just catching in their throat. And, like, you know how when you really are trying not to cry and, like, losing it as we did this and then to get it and like, the song Take Me Back, like, and Clem's there and, like, the thing and it just ends. And it was like, oh, my God, like, what a landing. What a experience.

[Tim Geddes]

And again, game changer, man.

[Greg Miller]

In the same way I talk about Metal Gear and this is where it could go. Clearly, at this point, like, games are already my career in my life, but it was like, man, we're doing it, like, where people are actually doing it. They're telling stories and doing such cool with it. That's such a heartbreaker. They came back and did seasons two and more that. God, if they would. If we. If Telltale could have just walked away from the money on it, you know what I mean? And I know how hard that is. But, like, Clem is done that. What happened to Clem? We don't know. Maybe you'll find a note about her one day in the future. We're just gonna go. Like, that would be in the pantheon of greatest games of all time. I think the subsequent sequels and the graphic novels, it all just watered it down so much, where it just became content, where it's like, yeah. Now you can't even have a definitive thing of what happened there. Even though I did, like, like, obviously the other stuff, but whatever.

[Tim Geddes]

Real quick. I sent this to Assets. This is what you're talking about of us being at Dave for Noise House. If you could bring this video up, Barrett. But I was in the backyard, which is so freaking epic. The craziest thing here, Greg. Yeah. This was posted on January 2, 2015, three days before we announced we're quitting IGN. That's wild. And we do, obviously.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

But, like, dang, What a time capsule.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, those are. That was insane.

[Tim Geddes]

Very special. Very, very special time.

[Greg Miller]

Can I see my thing again? Sorry. I ranted forever about Walking Dead, but I guess that's what this show's about. Yeah. And so. Well, yeah. You want to hear about. Oh, no, you know, let's stick with special. Let's go to Gone Home before we get there. This is one the. The chat peg. Then you tossed in there another one of God, was I. I love it that I've told the story so much. I've forgotten the details now. I forget if it was Mitch or if it was Justin Mcel who it was, but so I think it was Justin. Somebody on Twitter was like, yo, if you haven't played Gone Home, go play Gone Home right now. Like, don't wait. Don't read anything about it.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And there had been a little of a scuttlebutt at IGN about it at the time or whatever. And I was like, okay, I'll go do it if we're. And I don't think we are. We're. We were still at ign. Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I'm sorry. It's time's a flood.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And so I was like, okay. Like, I, I. Somebody had told me to play it. It had been out. It wasn't, you know, whatever, but it was one of those classic things. It was on PC. PC gaming at the time was cumbersome and for me, incredibly cumbersome and wasn't intuitive yet. But I fucking. I trust I'd heard enough that I did it. I dragged the tower. I connected to the tv. I sat there like a moron with the mouse and keyboard on my coffee table to play it. And yeah, you know, the story with Gone Home goes of just like, jumping in and being like, okay, it's a horror game. It's a haunted thing. I keep reading about Sam and Lonnie in the finding their Supernatural books, and the TV's on and nothing's going you know, and if you're not familiar with this, of course, it's about Katie Greenbrier coming back from a year abroad, I believe it is. She shows up at her family home, opens the door, no one's there, lights are on, TVs running, what the happens? And you have to pick up things around the house as contextual clues to piece together the story. And so playing that game the entire time, it was. And I'm a spoil everything for going home. It was like, okay, cool, I'm waiting for the ghost. I'm waiting for the thing. I'm waiting for this, the jump scare. I remember, like, you know, the room where they were doing the seance, like, coming in, stepping out, like, you know, doing the thing where you're moving the wall, turning around real quick, like, where's the jump scare gonna be? And you play through and you find all these things. You find the clues, you piece it together. And, like, slowly but surely as you play, you know, this subplot starts forming of, like, oh, like, Katie's sister really liked this other girl. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, she's. Oh, she's discovering that she's gay. Oh, that's really cool. And then eventually it's like, wait, this isn't the subplot. This is the plot of the game. Like, the game has never been a horror thing. It's always been about, what the fuck happened to Katie's sister in this relationship. And finally, I'll never, ever forget the finale of that game where you finally get the last piece of paper, the last clue that leads you to the last room. And just sprinting to the attic. So terrified of what I'd find, right? And then getting up there and finding what you find and doing. And I remember the credits rolled and I got up and I walked in and hugged my ex. Like, I just walked into. Christine was playing Probably Guild Wars 2. I walked in there, I just hugged her. She's like, what is wrong? And I'm like, I just played this fucking touching game. You know, here we are now, everybody. You know this game about, like, you know, like, put me in, like, again, what I love about video games, right, is literally putting you in someone else's shoes like that and letting you experience it. And the way the VO worked and the storytelling and the drip feed, it was just so special. Again, in I think you go back to this DNA of Metal Gear, of what games could be and what they could do and the stories they could tell you. I was like, fuck, that's just. It blew me away. And you've heard me talk about gone home for years and years and years and years from there. Yeah, there's two interesting choices, but not if you know me. Obviously the Division 2 will jump to. Of course, love the Division 1, love the Division 2. But it was that thing of I do not think of myself as a multiplayer game. And that was in this. That was before Kids posted. Ben. I'm definitely not a multiplayer gamer as I find with Arc Raiders where I feel like such a bum when I'm like, all right, Mike, I'll see you on around 9, 10 o'. Clock. And then of course something goes south and I do not get on. Yeah, you know what I mean. Division two though was life. Like, you know what I mean? Division one was so good. Division two was even better. You know, it got credit for launching and not being broken as it actually worked. We could play it, you know, a game I sunk hundreds of hours into running around Washington D.C. platinuming that game again, having a crew to run with. I, you know, earlier people were guessing about a million things that were on here and I saw people surprised that Avengers wasn't on here. Avengers did almost make it because I think Avengers, for all of it not being a great game, which is admitted, like it was another Division 2 of like I have a crew. You know, me, Sean Goldfarb, Tam, we're getting on and playing Avengers. Division 2 was. I have a crew, but it was way bigger of like, like it would be Tam, it would be Andy, it could be this, it could be that.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, I, I definitely, like, I didn't say this for you, but like that was a mistake on my part, like, definitely. And it would have been the thought process of is it this or Avengers? And I think for everything you're saying, I would have went Division too, because it. The way that you talked about the game and what it did for you and how it did change the types of games that you like and yeah, even single player stuff. Even just like the, the. The way that you're kind of just like you like loops in games and I think that, that the Division kind of like gives you that in like such a specific way. I think even more so than like an Assassin's Creed Odyssey. As much as you love it, I'm not that surprised it's not on the list.

[Greg Miller]

Well, you'll have it by one and

[Tim Geddes]

then I can't wait to get to this next one.

[Greg Miller]

Oh yeah, so, yeah, sorry. Breaking email about redacted stuff. Yeah. Division 2 again, a multiplayer game that. Yeah, just Got me and. And sucked me in in a way that like. Like, even DC Universe Online in MMO. So different than what Division 2 was as a shooter. I'm not a shooter. Right. Like, it's really not what I like to do in games. And it's so good that even now, Arc Raiders. I see so much division in that. Not only did I get it, and when I heard about it and watched it. I'm gonna play this Division. I then started getting it for people in the old Division crew. Like, I sent Richie a game. Like, you gotta play this. We gotta get in here. You're gonna love this, Sean. We miss Avengers. I told you this the other night. You got. I got you. Come on. We gotta go. We gotta go play together. Love it. And then. Yeah. Final one on here is Starfield. Ha ha, ha. I adore an open world rpg. A Western rpg, however you want to define it. I would always say a Bethesda RPG, which does include Outer Worlds 2, which does include a number of different games. For me, of course, it's all about characters and setting. I've tried. I've given Kingdom Come, Deliverance to the college. Try everyone. It's just. I don't like that setting of Medieval Times. And I just.

[Tim Geddes]

You didn't like space. I'm not saying that means you're like this, but you're a change man. You've grown. Looking at this list, Greg, from knowing you for as long as I have.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I.

[Tim Geddes]

It's so much development, right? So much has changed over the years.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was that idea of, like, so much has to click. And so. Yeah, when. You know, I love Fallout Period. You know what I mean? Skyrim. I played. You go back and look at the old podcast. 45 hours or whatever. And I. I enjoyed the shit out of it. But again, I don't like that setting. I don't need. I. I wasn't pulled through the story. I was pulled through by getting stronger and leveling up and doing that shit. Fallouts are my jam. It fascinating that, you know, you were debating which one to put in there. You said New Vegas. I still have not rolled credits on New Vegas.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, see, I just don't fucking know.

[Greg Miller]

I know. I think. I think there's content there where I do. I think at some point want to do a. Hey. Either their marathon stream or just multiple days where I just play New Vegas, where I don't. Because I. I always. When it came out, I forget what else I was reviewing. So I didn't do it. And I, I, there's, I've made this argument before that your first fallouts, the specialist fallout. So like Fallout 3 was so good that New Vegas, even though being better or whatever, the setting for Fallout and coming out of the vault, I love being a vault dweller. I always love that idea of coming out wide eyed. What's happening? That's not what New Vegas was. I've restarted New Vegas on a trip back from Canada where I put five hours into it and I was enjoying it, but it, I don't, it didn't grab me in the way of like, oh man, I get why people love this one more than other ones, but I know that there's payoffs and all these different things and so I need to sit down at some point and commit to it. But I digress. For me, Starfield is that one that came around and I think for all of its rough edges, for all the reasons Starfield is not on anyone's game of the year lists ever but me, it is that idea that Starfield is the one that got me to role play. Starfield is the one that has changed the way I play RPGs going forward. If you've caught, if you've caught my Outer Worlds 2 coverage this year, right? Like I came in here with D and D character sheets and I made two characters and I committed to playing as those two character builds through the thing, which then influenced the choices I made before this, right? I'm making Taylor Swift, I'm making Cara, I'm maybe making myself, I'm making Clark. And inevitably what that means is I'm going to be the good guy. I'm gonna be the good guy. And then it's like, okay, I'm just the good guy. I'm just doing this and I'm not really. Well, that would be a bad. Why would I say, you know, maybe if I'm trying to be a, it just doesn't work. And Starfield started off so rocky. It's got a very weird start to Starfield, especially when it was we were coming hot off of Baldur's Gate, you know, you dropped in, you do this thing. I remember getting to Constellation and being shooting everybody in the room in the face. Nobody died and nobody got mad. And I was like, this sucks. This is trash. But I'll keep playing it because that's a Bethesda game and this is what it is. And there are the, you know, rules to a universe you play in. And again, played for a while, we're getting spoilers and of course, there's a gigantic Starfield spoiler cast for you to go listen to. I think two now, right? Or is it just one? Where eventually I'm playing. I made myself, but I didn't like how I looked. And so I was like, you know what? I'll remake it. I went in there, I let the character creator inspire me. I got somebody who kind of looked like Becky Lynch. I changed, rename her Becky Lynch. She's Becky Lynch. Okay. No, I'm not worrying about what Becky would actually do in a situation and then let it go. And then, yeah, found that Mantis storyline. And it was like, this person was Batman. And I have now found the Batsuit and the Batmobile. And I am a person who is adrift in the galaxy looking for a purpose. This is my purpose. Becky lynch is now the Mantis. She will now be the defender of this. This gives her something to do. Okay. And then I committed to that, and then I committed to the narrative. And, like, you play through that game. And as the old story for Greg goes, I started really vibing with Andreja. I was like, okay, cool, you're my companion because you're also, like, you're a cultist. You're not. Like, you're not.

[Tim Geddes]

You're.

[Greg Miller]

You know, Sarah Marshall was always up my ass about doing bad things. I'm like, come on, shut the fuck up. Let me do it. You know, you're no fun. You're wet blanket. Andreja was like, I exist in these gray areas. Like, I like you a lot for that, Andreas. And so we ran with that, and then it was that I had a glitch in the game, Classic Bethesda, where you had to make a choice on who you went to help. And I wanted to go help Andreas, people in the setting, but the game wouldn't allow me do it. So I went, did the thing. She died. That influenced the story, that influenced the choices for Becky, blah, blah, blah. And then you get to the end of that game. Spoilers. And Starfield has the best new game plus I've ever seen in a video game in terms of a narrative reason of, like, cool, you have found you are Starborn. You can go through this thing called the unity, and you can go to other dimensions and restart the game as who you are. So you go there and there, and then it turns out there might be slight changes to certain things and crazy, like, cutscenes. You'll get there, whatever, but, like, you can go and do the whole thing. And I started running these unities and doing these things. And eventually I got it of like, I'm going to go save Andreja. And it was that thing where I started. I did it when I told them that I was starborn and I was doing this. And Andreja, she rebuffed me and I was like, fuck this, I'm going to do it again. And I started doing like the thing you see a villain do. I'm like, no, no, this isn't perfect. I can make it better. I'm going to go back through. And I just kept going through the unity and trying to do it to where I did it. And then I have my playthrough and I've married her and done all the things and lived all the life, but like, even there, the other starborn in that playthrough came up. Like when they confronted me are like, wait a second, you've done this before. You're just, why? And they're calling me on the literal shit I'm doing. And it's like, like it is such a one in a million thing on. On a whiteboard somewhere. Todd Howard and team laid out like a pot. And I somehow got that playthrough where I've done the thing where like they called me on the thing they've. It's like that game is so special despite its many flaws. I am not saying it's a perfect game because of those moments and that's why I love Starfield. But again, for the DNA building blocks of Greg Miller and who I am as a gamer, I would toss it out there because of those experiences. Because every Western RPG I play, I'm chasing that high. I want the game to see what I'm doing and talk to me about it and let me influence it. And so I think there's far better open world Western RPGs I've played and I'm playing, you know, Other Worlds is great.

[Tim Geddes]

That's not what this list is exactly. This is the 10 games to know Greg Miller. We said we were gonna do Barrett's. We said we were gonna do Joey's. We said we were gonna do cool Greg's. And don't worry, we still will, just not on this episode. I'm looking at next week. Looks like there's some spaces. No promises, but likely, likely we will do that next week because this is a lot of fun and I saw a lot of people in chat saying that it's nice to kind of get to know us individually because there are a lot of new listeners and viewers that might not know these stories. Of. Of everything that defines who we are as gamers. I do want to get to the Super Chats, though, before we end the episode. Cam's writing in about Pat upon. Any thought on that?

[Greg Miller]

I love Patapon. Pat upon another one that is like so special to me. But I think the quest to figure out what the fuck was going on when PlayStation let us preview Patapon remastered and then didn't release it for three years or whatever kind of made it into a bigger thing. I love patapon, period. Those are my dudes, the Patapons. I love that gameplay. But again, it's not something that I, I. My mind drifts back to all the time. I also have no rhythm, you know what I mean? And so, yeah, I. For the four, five games I left off the list, but were there God of War 2018 was at the top. Death and Return of Superman on Genesis.

[Tim Geddes]

Love it.

[Greg Miller]

Super Mario World, my favorite Mario Patapon and then Ocarina of Time.

[Tim Geddes]

There we go. Juan Martin says, just heard time after time in the wild. But I sang you have Twitch prime instead. I was legally required to stop and Super Chat. Thank you so much, Juan. And you are correct. That is the law. Low school places. Did either of you consider adding Emily is away? No. No. But like the obviously core memory. Right. I think that to me is definitely like to know my gaming career.

[Greg Miller]

Yes.

[Tim Geddes]

I think that I. I would put that one in there.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I think that's like such a special kind of funny game. Yeah. Him and Greg.

[Tim Geddes]

Totally.

[Greg Miller]

Let's play. But I've never ever gone back and replayed this.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You and me get wasted and playing together. You play and I yell at you about your choices. And I do.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. But yeah, nothing inappropriate was said. Sekiro says Greg turned me on to Starfield. I'm so glad he shared his enthusiasm and joy for it. Please keep sharing your joy and excitement for games that click. That's what we do.

[Greg Miller]

That's what we do here.

[Tim Geddes]

That's literally what we get paid to do by you. Thank you so much. Red Misfit says, can I get one fast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From Greg. I love it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, okay. Yeah, you do that. I love it when he does that.

[Greg Miller]

The other Greg ticks. You know what I mean?

[Tim Geddes]

By the way, I love Starfield. It's awesome. And I think better than Outer Worlds too. There you go. Red Misfit.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, great.

[Tim Geddes]

There you go. And there you go, everybody. This was another great episode of the kind of funny games cast. 10 Games to Know Greg Miller. If you want more of this, let us know. We have a lot of people here, so. I mean, I'd love to hear Nick's list. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tim Geddes]

Like, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, for sure.

[Tim Geddes]

That would be the Counter Strike. Surprisingly, would be on it. A lot of stuff you don't know about Nick. Stay tuned if you want Nick. He's about to stream Arc Raiders with Andy and Mike. It's gonna be a good time. Until next time. Love y'.

[Greg Miller]

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