Blessing and SnowBikeMike React: The Top 25 Sports Games of ALL TIME - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast
Episode: Blessing and SnowBikeMike React: The Top 25 Sports Games of ALL TIME
Release Date: January 24, 2025

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast, Blessing Adeoye and SnowBikeMike dive deep into reacting and dissecting Complex.com's list of the Top 25 Sports Games of All Time. Hosted by Blessing Addie Oye Jr. and SnowBikeMike, the duo navigates through nostalgic memories, lively debates, and audience interactions to evaluate and rank some of the most iconic sports video games ever created.

Unpacking the Top 25 List

Basketball Classics

Blessing and SnowBikeMike kick off their discussion with basketball games, emphasizing the cultural impact and gameplay innovations of titles like:

• NBA Street Volume 2
• NBA Jam
• NBA Live 2005
• NBA 2K11

Blessing reflects on his nostalgia, saying, “I had the demo disc for the PS1 game. I would just play the NFL Blitz demo over and over and over again” ([11:02]). The conversation highlights the transition from arcade-style games to more simulation-based titles, with NBA 2K11 being a pivotal game that shifted the franchise's popularity.

Football Favorites

Moving on to football, the hosts discuss a mix of arcade and simulation titles:

• NFL Blitz
• Tekmo Bowl
• Madden NFL 2005
• College Football 2014

SnowBikeMike shares a personal story: “I watched the real-life changing of the guard from NBA Live to NBA 2K. It was 2008... that was the end of NBA Live and the changing of the guard to NBA 2K” ([19:16]). This underscores the competitive landscape between EA Sports' Madden series and 2K's NFL titles.

Baseball Bonanza

Baseball games receive significant attention, with titles like:

• Backyard Baseball
• MLB The Show
• Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball

Blessing reminisces, “I would bring Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball to after school programs... we would plug in MLB and we'd play Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball” ([72:23]). The discussion highlights the enduring legacy and influence of these titles in baseball simulations.

Soccer Showdowns

The conversation shifts to soccer, where they evaluate:

• FIFA Series (e.g., FIFA 13)
• Pro Evolution Soccer
• Rocket League

SnowBikeMike emphasizes the universal appeal of soccer games: “Soccer, AKA FIFA, is a video game that can bring anyone from anywhere together” ([34:57]). They praise Rocket League for its innovative blend of soccer and vehicular action, noting its core sports essence despite being a modern twist.

Other Notable Sports Games

Beyond the major sports, the hosts touch upon a variety of other sports games:

• Wii Sports
• SSX Tricky
• Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
• Fight Night Series
• WWE Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain

Blessing shares his appreciation for Wii Sports, stating, “Wii Sports might be number two. Wii Sports might be top two and maybe not number two. I'm riding down Wii Sports” ([57:12]). The versatility and accessibility of Wii Sports are highlighted as key factors for its high ranking.

Reactions and Debates on Rankings

Blessing and SnowBikeMike express mixed feelings about the ranking order of the list. While they agree on the inclusion of beloved titles like NBA Jam and MLB The Show, they debate the placement of arcade-centric games versus simulation-heavy titles.

Blessing notes, “The ordering feels weird... it feels like it was just a bunch of us” ([73:42]). Despite disagreements on placement, both hosts acknowledge the significance of the selected games and understand the reasoning behind their rankings.

Audience Interaction and Super Chats

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with their audience through Super Chats, addressing comments and suggestions such as:

• Dean8149 highlights MVP Baseball 2005 as his favorite.
• Swart by first name recommends FIFA 03.
• Diego praises Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004.
• Corey PG advocates for Here Comes the Pain to make the list.

These interactions add a communal feel to the discussion, allowing listeners to share their personal favorites and memories associated with various sports games.

Final Thoughts and Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Blessing and SnowBikeMike reflect on the extensive list and their debate over the rankings. They appreciate the nostalgic value and gameplay innovations of the top selections while acknowledging the challenge of narrowing down such a diverse array of sports titles.

SnowBikeMike concludes, “This was definitely a very competent football sim... It was a fun football simulation” ([97:35]), reaffirming the enduring legacy of influential sports games in shaping gaming culture.

Notable Quotes

• Blessing: “Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Like I host that show probably half the time, right.” ([01:15])
• SnowBikeMike: “NFL Blitz is going to be top 10. Yeah, I think NFL Blitz might be top 10.” ([07:38])
• Blessing: “Wii Sports might be top two and maybe not number two. I'm riding down Wii Sports.” ([32:09])
• SnowBikeMike: “Soccer, AKA FIFA, is a video game that can bring anyone from anywhere together.” ([34:57])
• Blessing: “The ordering feels weird... it feels like it was just a bunch of us.” ([73:42])

Conclusion

Blessing and SnowBikeMike's reaction to the Top 25 Sports Games list offers a blend of nostalgia, insightful critiques, and passionate debates. Their comprehensive analysis not only honors the legacy of these games but also invites listeners to reflect on their personal favorites and gaming experiences. Whether agreeing or disagreeing with the rankings, the discussion underscores the profound impact sports games have had on the video gaming landscape.

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Note: The timestamps provided in notable quotes correspond to the sections of the transcript where the quotes were made, offering listeners a reference to the original conversation.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Yo, what's up? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Friday, January 24, 2025 one of your host blessing Addie Oye Jr joining me is the master of hype, Snowback Mike.

[B]

Bless. What's good, big dog? It's Friday. Come on now.

[A]

Morning, Mike. The double Dap. Come on the double Dap.

[B]

Bless. Let me tell you right now, I was in a box.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

During games daily.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

You know, act a little professional. I was feeling a little slow.

[A]

When, since when do you have to act professional on games daily.

[B]

I was a half step slow on games daily. And I felt bad. I was like, sorry Tim, didn't give you my all. Sorry audience, didn't give you my best.

[A]

But today let's unpack that. What was it? Was it the energy? Was it the fact that it was.

[B]

The first day I'm having my yearly. I'm addicted to lays salt and vinegar potato chips. If you smash a whole bag, a family size bag of lay's salt and vinegar potato chips at night, wake up the next morning, you, your throat's not going to be feeling good. So I was feeling a little, little dehydrated. I was like a raisin dried up so my throat wasn't there. I was mispronouncing. I felt a, a half step slow. And that's on me. That's on me.

[A]

I I'll tell you right now, Mike, nobody cares. Nobody cares. Like I host that show probably half the time, right. And like I think I have conditioned the audience over years of hey, people are just going to mispronounce.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know, like you just got to keep going and nobody will notice.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

It's in the back of their bridge.

[B]

The verse is when you sit on it, you know, you just got to read it. They know I it up. I know I up. We just got to keep going the trail. Okay.

[A]

The worst part is like the one that, that'll haunt me forever is like the cold open where like the cold open this, Greg's idea, you fumble that. And there was one, there was one day where like I straight up just didn't. I could not see the words that I was reading. And usually like it's the thing of I've always waited to up the cold open and I've always nailed it. And I'm like, oh, maybe I'm just never gonna it up. And then the one day I've like, I don't know what it was that day of just, just totally just, you know, fumble the cold open yeah. And in the middle of that, in my mind I'm like, I'll just tell Barrett to redo it. And then I'm like, no, because we have to create the new YouTube link. And like, once we're alive, no backsies. Once we're live, we're alive. And I'm not Greg, right? Greg fumbles something and he rolls right into the puzzle. You know what I mean? He'll turn it into a bit. He'll turn it into a character. I'm not that quick thinking. I'm not the kind of person that's gonna like, you know, create a whole fucking shenanigan over it, you know, Greg will start doing cartwheels.

[B]

Thanks for making me feel better because I'm here for. I fumbled hard during games daily. But we're back now and you know what? We're ready to have fun.

[A]

Here's the thing about fumbles. All right, what sport fumbles happening?

[B]

Football.

[A]

Football. And today we're going to talk about football, we're going to talk about basketball, we're going to talk about soccer and a whole lot more. Because remember, this is the kind of funny games guests. Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games live on YouTube, Twitch and on podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the kind of funny membership on Patreon or YouTube or Spotify or Apple podcast to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show for a chance to be a part of the show, some of your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. Housekeeping for you. We're an 11 person business all about live talk shows. KFD today was about video game sales numbers with Mike and Tim. Right now is the games cast. After this is game showdown and after that is the stream. And what is the stream today, Mike?

[B]

Kingdom hearts two. Oh, yes. Bless. I hit a. A big milestone moment in Kingdom Hearts 2. I don't know if you're aware, but there's a moment that everybody talks about as. Oh, wow. The moment. And it's where Sora faces down an army of heartless.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And has to go toe to toe with him. He doesn't have his squad, Donald or Goofy, no Mickey behind him. He's got to go one on a thousand. And he battles through. And then some scary story stuff is revealed, but everybody talks about it. I beat that yesterday.

[A]

Wow. Wow. So what are you gonna do to get out of this? Because I know you don't want to play Kingdom Hearts. What are you actually gonna do? You don't want to play that. All right, give it up. Put on some Tokyo Extreme Racer. Let's play some. Let's play some real video games.

[B]

Oh, we gotta talk about that.

[A]

We gotta talk about Tokyo Fall into a sports game. See, well, we're gonna get games. Because if racing games are on this list, that blows this whole thing up that wide open. This conversation turns into a whole different conversation. But we'll get into that in a second. Think about that. If you're a kind of funny member, you can get Today's Greg Way. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Delaney Twining and Carl Jacobs. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays and Rocket Money. But we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Mike. We're talking about it. The top 25 best sports video games of all time, ranked by Complex.com.

[B]

Complex.

[A]

Complex, okay. You don't hear that name in video games as often.

[B]

Not often.

[A]

But here's the thing. You also don't hear about Rolling Stone in video games as often. And they fucking did a slam dunk with their list. They brought it. Of course it's me and you. We're doing a shit list. I go online, I find a top 10 list or top 25 or top 50, I bring it back to you. Tim, whoever's on the ones and twos, we judge it for your amusement. We're talking about the top best 25 sports video games of all time. And let's talk about it. Racing games. Let me get into the blurb here.

[B]

Okay, okay, read the blurb. Read the blurb.

[A]

Well, the subheader here is, here are the best games in all of sports history, covering basketball, soccer, wrestling, football, skateboarding, and more. All right, when I get into the blurb, they say sports games are a great way to live out fantasies. Athletes get to see themselves in ways they couldn't imagine. And players get to participate in fantasy by doing incredible things like rocking Mike Tyson or beating Tiger Woods. That's what makes sports games so great. You get to experience the athleticism in the palm of your hands. It's actually quite exhilarating. With so many sports games which are the best of the best, is there even such a thing as the greatest of all time? We wanted. We wanted to figure that out. And so after much deliberation, we put together a list of the 25 best sports games ever, trying to be as comprehensive and historical here as possible. And wow, it's quite exhaustive. And then they start to list things. I'm not going to say them just for the surprise factor, but they don't really give more as far as context of what's going to be on the list, so.

[B]

But they teased us a little bit.

[A]

They teased a little.

[B]

They teased us with some wrestling and some skateboarding, which means, you know, normally wrestling. To me, when I thought of just sports, before we brought up racing, wrestling was in.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Now we get into skateboarding, which leads into snowboarding, which leads into X Games, Olympic titles.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, how far in the bag are we going to go? And racing, I mean, it's.

[A]

If it's a sport, it's a sport. Here's the thing about racing sport is if I'm making this list, it's only 25 games, so there's not that many slots to go with.

[B]

This is tough.

[A]

25 is a small number. So I think for the racing conversation, if I'm complex and I'm making this list, I. I include maybe a couple racing games. But. But I'm very selective because I think racing is its own genre.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But NASCAR, like, NASCAR is a sport. NASCAR, NASCAR, F1. I feel like that type of racing game might fit within the margins. Margins of this conversation. But I better not see a Mario Kart on here.

[B]

That.

[A]

Oh, that's where I step. That's where. That's where I draw the line. You can't.

[B]

That's an arcadey title.

[A]

Yes. You can't get too arcadey here. No Mario Kart.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, in is. Listen, I love burnout. I don't think you can put burnout on this list.

[B]

No Burnout.

[A]

I think the most racing you can go, like the furthest you can go down the racing line, it has to be a F1.

[B]

NASCAR, F1. Let me get into Forza Horizon.

[A]

Not Horizon. Maybe Motorsport.

[B]

Okay. Maybe Motorsport Gran Turismo, maybe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. How about need for Speed Underground or Need for Speed Hot Pursuit? See, that's. We get a little sticky and there's 25. Because I could give you. I give you probably seven Mario sports games. And it's tough to cut a number of those Mario Sports games because they were impactful. It's gonna be very interesting on this list.

[A]

Yeah, I'm very. I'm very excited about this. Here's the thing, right? I'm happy. I'm excited for this list for a few reasons.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One, it's you, right? We got you on the, on the. On the panel. And you are probably the biggest sports game person here at. Kind of funny, right? And I'm here to back you up when it comes to, like, the arcade sports stuff. And of course, back in the day, like, I play FIFA and like, you know, all of us, I think here play sports games to some extent, some more than others. Right? But I think we got the right people, right people here. But then on top of that, right, It's a list. And I feel like we've been on. On a good run when it comes to the shit list. And I feel like this is. This is going to be the proof of the pudding. Proof in the pudding of like, how much are y'all into this content? Does this get the clicks?

[B]

Here's what we need you to do because I always have a lot of fun doing this. With blessings. You give me the clicks no matter what. Even this. If this is a shit list and this sucks, you give us the clicks. You go tell your sister, your mama, your dad, your auntie, anyone in your life, just click it. Okay, let's get this thing 20,000 and above.

[A]

If this one crosses the 20,000 mark, the mike, me and you, we break off, we do our own business. We start our own business. Mike. And bless the list, guys.

[B]

Shit, we had a crazy one. Can we start talking about game?

[A]

Let's start talking.

[B]

We just had a crazy one come in. I want to bring in rich Smitty. Smitty writes in on the live chat. Knockout City dodgeball. Is that a sport?

[A]

Yes, it is. I think it. I think it is. That might be pushing it. Here's the thing. I think that might be a little hypocritical for me saying that that's a sport and that burnout's not. So I. That might be me crossing the line a little bit. But I think the difference is if you include, like, the super arcade racing games, then this list just gets a bit wild. But, like, how many dodgeball games are like, dodgeball is a sport. Knockout City is a dodgeball game.

[B]

It's on espn. The oo. Yeah, it's a sport.

[A]

It's not like there's a billion of those, but that is getting into. But here's the other thing, though. There are going to be arcade. Arcade sports games.

[B]

Of course you're going to NFL Blitz.

[A]

NFL Blitz, NBA Jam. I'm gonna start writing this down.

[B]

Let's. Let's go back and forth. Or I. Because I have about 20 tabs open of games, I know I'm ready to run you through my Snowbike Mike sports games. Now, these aren't my.

[A]

The list, right? I got. I'm. I'm spitting these off the top of the dome.

[B]

Off the dome, off the dome.

[A]

So let's go back and forth. You said NFL Blitz.

[B]

NFL Blitz has to be on there. Of course. NFL Blitz is definitely a top 25 sports game. To me, it would make the list. Now, there is some variations in NFL Blitz, of course. We get into annualized titles. We get into certain years. Blitz 2002 versus 99 or whatever the years were. And then of course, Blitz the league and Blitz the league too, where they broke off from the NFL, but they added so much, they made that really an 11 on 11. I think it's still 7 on 7 football, but it made it more. The presentation felt more like an actual Madden game. But then they added in the Mortal Kombat. Oh, my God, you just broke my knee in half. And we got to steroid him up and send him back in.

[A]

NFL Blitz might have been my first outside of like, a Mario or something. Might have been my first, like, arcade sports game that's like that. I have the demo disc. I had a PS2 at the time, but I had the demo disc for the PS1 game. And I would just play the NFL Blitz demo over and over and over again. And there was something so satisfying about, like, taking out a dude, him being on the ground, and then running right back into him and like, take him out again and just, like, suplexing him and doing all that stuff. That stuff was super fun playing with your friends.

[B]

And because you shared the same screen with your playbooks, you'd go up, up, up three times to go invisible mode so they couldn't see what play you were picking. But it didn't matter because there was no penalties. So we were just wiping out your. All your wide receivers at the beginning anyways. And you'd be like, can't do that. Like, you got to let him at least catch it. And they're like that. I'll do whatever I want. God, great times.

[A]

All right. NFL Blitz.

[B]

NFL Blitz on the list, I'm going to say.

[A]

I mean, NBA Street Volume 2. That's top five.

[B]

So now the fun part becomes you have NBA Street 1 through 3. You have NFL Street 1 through 3, FIFA street and FIFA Street 2. Now you start to get into the sequels. Which one is the best?

[A]

See, we know which one is. It is with NBA.

[B]

NBA Street Volume 2, Volume 2. Where's NBA Ballers? It's not any love on NBA ballers. The 1v1.

[A]

We're talking about a top 25.

[B]

Okay. Hey, hey. I like it.

[A]

Listen, I like NBA Ballers, but we.

[B]

Have to give love to ballers.

[A]

We have to give love to ballers. It's not top 25.

[B]

It's not top 25, but you have.

[A]

To give love to it, though.

[B]

You have to give love to ballers. On the idea that Stefan Marbury was on the COVID they went and they said that not doing 3v3 anymore. We're doing 1v1v1. You're going to buy half court, you're going to buy a mansion, you're going to buy cars, you're going to buy chains. And it was like, what? What is going on here? But it felt right for the time because that's when Def Jam was so big. That's when Fight for New York was getting popularity. And it felt like it was just like kind of the perfect evolution of what you were playing with NBA street to match that energy.

[A]

God, what a time.

[B]

You like that?

[A]

What a time. Yeah. No, I love that.

[B]

NBA Street 1 through 3.

[A]

Would it be easier to go sport by sport? Because like I. That's the interesting thing of when we're picking NBA games. There are so many NBA games that we can, that we can fit. We can make a top 25 basketball games of all time.

[B]

Easily, easily, easily.

[A]

Eas when we're talking about soccer, when we're talking about basketball.

[B]

Sit on basketball.

[A]

Let's sit on basketball for a second. Because I'm Saying NBA Street, Volume 2. NBA Jam has to be on there.

[B]

NBA Jam has to be on there. NBA Jam will be on that will be on there. NBA Jam, yeah. NBA Jam set the tone for many games, especially inspired NBA street, of course, to be a G. That arcady NBA experience. Yeah, it will be on there. Now here's some fun ones, right? You have the NBA Jam kind of like alternative, which was NBA Showtime on NBA on NBC, which had Shaquille O'Neal on the COVID That was when you were kind of. It was almost like Blitz, but NBA Jam Edition. So you could put in the little three digit code to get different power ups. With big head mode, you could draft a Wolverine as one of your players, but it was NBA Jam. But taking up one extra. It was NBA Jam to 11.

[A]

Do you remember? Didn't baseball have like MLB? They did hits.

[B]

MLB, MLB slug fest, I want to say, but I'm not. Yeah, chat, let me know which one it was.

[A]

I think it was Slugfest. That was like the Arcadia NHL Hits.

[B]

Was the Arcady one. And MLB also had one where you throw the ball real fast and hit people in the head and stuff. It was great.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

And Tim Kitso is the voice that you know from all of them. Boom shakalaka. Yes, that's Tim Kitso. You know that voice.

[A]

Bring back that era.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Should we continue to stick on basketball?

[B]

Let's stick on basketball. So we, we go from NBA Jam to of course, NBA Showtime on NBA NBC.

[A]

But that's not going to be on there.

[B]

That's not going to be on there. But that's a good honorable mention. You know it. Then we get into actual basketball games. Kobe Bryant Courtside on the N64 was one of the first 5v5 true NBA Sims to try to start getting into the next generation. Right. Where you had the 3D graphics, you were actually playing traditional basketball on your screen. Because the N64 will also have Madden at the time that did this, where you're like, oh, we're like trying to play a real sport on this janky controller, this crazy system that can barely process it. But it was happening.

[A]

I like that. Now, do you think that ends up on the list?

[B]

No.

[A]

Because here's the thing, right again, we're talking about so many sports and limited entries. And when you're talking about like sim basketball, I think you have to have one from NBA Live and you have to have one from NBA 2K.

[B]

Oh, okay. Yeah. So you get one of each. So you're. Wow, that. That means at this time you're giving us in like four or five.

[A]

And I'm not. I've not even mentioned college hoops yet.

[B]

College hoops is off the board. It's too close to NBA Live because it is essentially NBA Live just reskinned.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

In the A world, I do not think that we will get a. Now hear me out. Yeah, there's NCAA football, but there's also college game day. There was game day football. I don't think we'll get that opposed like Madden and stuff like that.

[A]

But I think we'll talk when we get to football. I think that maybe there's more of an argument.

[B]

So now you're saying NBA Street.

[A]

Yeah, Jam. I'm saying NBA Live and a 2K. I think 2K 11.

[B]

Four basketball games are going up.

[A]

Yes. And I think you. I think you clip it at four. I think once you get to four, it's like, okay, that's.

[B]

I like this blessing. I like this. Yeah, I do like that a lot.

[A]

Is There if okay, so there's some.

[B]

More NBA call outs.

[A]

Hit me up with it.

[B]

Back in the day when you had NBA street, you also had other ones like and one basketball.

[A]

Oh, you did have.

[B]

It had its own basketball game or. My preferred NBA street over NBA street was street hoops. Street hoops went 5v5. Traditional basketball but with the street flare. And you would go from city to city drafting new players that were almost more and one like as opposed to stretch and players like that or NBA players that didn't have an NBA license. So I want to make sure we give some love to and one and street hoops that you know, usually don't get the shine.

[A]

Now I also want to give love. It's not going to be on the list, but I want to give love to Shaq Fu. Not a sports game but like sports adjacent.

[B]

You can give love to Shaq.

[A]

I want to give love to Shaq.

[B]

He deserves it. How about. How about backyard base basketball?

[A]

You were going to get backyard game on the list for sure. Is basketball the one Mike?

[B]

Now can I tell you which one it will be? Which one it will be? Baseball.

[A]

It'll be baseball.

[B]

Okay, now that's not the most fun to play but backyard baseball will make the list because backyard baseball was the first. It was the best at the time. But soccer is more enjoyable. Basketball, football, all more enjoyable. Never played hockey, but I will say it's a point and click game. So baseball is kind of like the slowest, the most boring as opposed to the other ones which you will play the Most.

[A]

Now for 2K. I'm going to write down 2K 11 for NBA. This is the one that was 11. Yeah, this is the same one that was on the top 100 list. This is the Michael Jordan one. I think this was like a, a landmark year for 2k for live, which was the one. I know they had like the bat the dunk contest mode in live.

[B]

You would pull the Kia in and he was jumping over.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And it was just a quick oh my God, am I crazy?

[A]

Am I crazy to think that like mid 2000s, like 2000, maybe four. NBA Live was like an all time.

[B]

That one game that one had Vince. Oh yeah.

[A]

Okay. NBA Live because I don't know if I'm like misremembering.

[B]

I'm tell you a story about NBA Live into 2K. Tell me that I will never forget. I I watched the real life changing of the guard from NBA live to 2K. So it was 2008. I'll vividly remember this 2004 to 2008 was all about NBA Live. Everybody wanted NBA live. But 2K was on the rise between probably 2K 6 into 2K 10. And at 2K 8. Senior year of high school, I'll never forget this. This kid, Damon zeligs, bet me $50 that he could beat me in an NBA game. And I said, I'm the nastiest player at NBA Live. There's no way. And he said, no, no, we play 2K at my house. And I said that no one plays 2K. And he goes, oh, no. We all play 2K. And so he forced me to battle him in 2K.

[A]

He beat me for the $50.

[B]

For the $50. And get this.

[A]

Bless.

[B]

That was the end of NBA Live.

[A]

I had never.

[B]

I never went back to NBA Live. It was always 2K. So to me, the milestone is 2008.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was the end of NBA Live and the changing of the guard to NBA 2K, which I think if you see the sales and the. Of course, the moment when we canceled an NBA Live, like, live and in person, it was only a couple years later.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

That was the flip. That was the moment. Bless.

[A]

Yeah, I remember it was. I mean, it was PS3,360 era, right? Like, halfway through that, where I remember going over to my friend Laura. Laura's house. Laura was on, like, the high school basketball team. And, like, she was all about, like, her life was basketball. She lived to this day. She coaches basketball. Like, shout out my girl Laura. Right?

[B]

Shout out Laura.

[A]

Man, that's awesome. But I remember, like, going over and she had NBA. It must have been 2K9. 2K9 or 2K10. And looking at it on the PS3 and being like, this is real life. Like, this is not a. This can't be a video game. This looks too good. Like, those games were benchmarks for, like, their gameplay. Right. But, like, for the graphics and how, like, high fidelity those games were. They're incredible to look at.

[B]

You can put on NBA 2K today, put it in different camera modes, and your family will walk in and think it's a real basketball game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You will look at the sweat off of Zion Williamson and go, oh, that's real sweat coming at you.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Said, is she single for Mike? Laura, Mike is not Laura's time.

[B]

I'll tell you right now, Laura.

[A]

Laura was on the basketball team. I'm trying to tell you who Laura is now. Laura, I think, might have. Might be engaged.

[B]

So the Fun part about 2k, 2k also brought in the multiplayer aspect of. Oh, we're not just playing play now. You pick a team, I pick a team. No, we're taking it to the streets and you're creating a my player. And it is now you. One on one. 2v2. 3v3. You're going to the pro am 5v5. 2k changed the game of how Hoopers want to be seen because yeah, as cool as it is to play play now where you're the Sacramento Kings, I'm the Golden State Warriors. I want to be me. I want to be Snowbike Mike. I want to bring the ball up. And they were like, yo, what if we made my player multiplayer? Change the game forever. There will be. You will never see another basketball game that doesn't have you as the star and as the focus. Especially in a multiplayer situation.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

So am I missing. So I have four basketball games here.

[B]

Quick shout out, shout out to college hoops. College hoops. Just like college football with Madden and of course college hoop with NBA Live. It was NBA Live just reskinned in a college setting. They did a fantastic job with March Madness. All the schools, all the kids. That was great. You got to give love to college hoops. I'm trying to think there's a 3v3 freestyle video game on Steam right now that we don't really give a lot of love to. Is it good? I don't know. Bless.

[A]

Think it's crazy though because I remember what's the one that came out? Probably it's like. Like maybe Tour 2018, 2017 is basketball arcade game. It was kind of the return of same. Same kind of vein as that three on three basketball thing. Right. Kind of the return of GM slash streets.

[B]

NBA playgrounds.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

When they try to capture that again. Yeah. And it didn't work. It didn't work because they also did wrestling brawl stars or something like that.

[A]

Well, they did WWE 2K battlegrounds.

[B]

Battlegrounds is what it's called.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep. I think. I think you've nailed it with the. The best before.

[A]

Yeah. Street. So for basketball, we're going NBA Street Volume 2. It's funny. This is gonna take. We're gonna get to add before we get to the actual.

[B]

We're getting deep in there.

[A]

But the. For the basketball section, we have NBC volume 2, NBA Jam NBA Live. I'm putting 2005 on there and then NBA 2K11.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

So let's talk about football. NFL Blitz. You're gonna have.

[B]

Now we gotta rewind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A Little bit before that. TECMO ball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Will they put respect on Techmobile? The question is, it's very old, but it did set the tone and kind of put the stage of like, here's where we're at.

[A]

If Techno bowl isn't on this list, this list is probably invalid. Okay, I said it. I'm saying it.

[B]

He said it. Wow.

[A]

I'm saying it.

[B]

Okay. You know, so Techno Ball. Now we get into the days of NFL Blitz. We going with the generic NFL Blitz or would they dare put blitz the league?

[A]

I would go generic. Like, I feel like. I agree. I mean, I've not played as much as of blitz the league, but like that's like what PS2 era, PS3 era.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somewhere around there I remember seeing gameplay and like, I don't know, man. Original NFL Blitz just had sauce too.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Had sauce.

[B]

NFL Blitz is going to be. I think NFL Blitz might be top 10. Yeah, I think NFL Blitz might be top 10. I'm all about that. Now we play the game of NFL Blitz. Now let's talk about NFL Street 1 through 3 again. So here's the fun one. Did you play three? Do you love one? The original boys? Two, the best, similar to NBA, I think.

[A]

I think two was the best. But I also think that you might not get NFL street on this list. I think NFL Street, NFL Street.

[B]

I'll say it. I'm gonna say something insane right now. NFL street is more fun to play than NBA Street. No, NBA street has more cultural impact, is a great game, but NFL street is more fun to play than NBA street at it.

[A]

I don't think. Here's the thing. I do think that there is an argument. I think people will automatically go, no, NBA Street Volume 2. But I've played a lot of NFL street and NFL Street. I think. I don't think you are crazy for saying it. Yeah, I don't think you're crazy for saying that. That said, I think think of the fun when you think of B. When you think of football games though.

[B]

You would run off the. You would wall run bless to jump off of things. You could wall catch. You could throw nasty back behind the back passes with your quarterback.

[A]

You know what, man?

[B]

Let's write it down.

[A]

Let's write it down.

[B]

They had great music, they had a world tour. They had all the NFL teams. You were drafting players every time you beat them to come on your team. Just like NBA street, they had the formula down my.

[A]

So my worry because I think you're right. I think if me and you were making this list. NFL Street 2 might be like top 10 on this list, right? It might be one of those ones. My thing is, it's twofold. One, I don't think people give NFL street its flowers as much as NBA Street Volume 2. And I think that might be reflected on the list. And then also, I think you run into the risk of having too many street games because, like, we're going to get to soccer streets going to be on there.

[B]

I don't think Fever street will make that. No, I don't think Fever street makes top 25. Fever street gets some love and honorable Benches does not make top 25.

[A]

I think that's fair. Okay. I think right.

[B]

Here's a fun story for you. Another fun story.

[A]

Hit me.

[B]

Oh, man, I have so many great stories of NFL street, but here's a cool one. I bought a PS2 recently, past, you know, decade or so, trying to relive some of those glory days. Right. I found out there was an NFL Street 3. I never knew NFL Street 3 with Chad Ochocinko on the front. Bought it every time I put it in. Never would turn on. It's got one of those blue bottoms. But the. My PlayStation doesn't read it, I guess. I don't know. It's one of these weird moments where every time I plug it in, it never turns on.

[A]

I'll tell you right now, I've never seen gameplay of NFL Street 3. I don't think that game actually exists.

[B]

I couldn't believe.

[A]

I think that game is a myth.

[B]

It was real blessed. Yeah. I saw it. Like, I know NBA Street 3 with Gilbert Arenas on the front. No. Somebody Davis.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But then you have Chad O Cinco on number three. And I'm like, I've never seen this. I don't know where this is. And every time I plug in the disc, it will never turn on.

[A]

That's so funny. I think there was. There's a larger conversation to be had here, Mike, about EA Sports Big and the drop off after the Twos, because it seems like they had those original entries, NBA street or NBA Street 1, NFL Street 1, FIFA Street.

[B]

Right?

[A]

But then like, they had a turn where they were like, all right, now let's make sequels to all these. And all the sequels are going to be incredible. Like 10 out of 10 video games. And then somewhere there was a shift where, like, NBA Street Volume 3 didn't hit nearly as much as NBA Street Volume 2. NFL Street 3. Again, I didn't even know it released until like maybe years after it released, right. And then you go on from there and you get NBA street home court and you get like the SSX game that came out on PS3 and there was also a PS3 fever street game that nobody like cared about.

[B]

You'd love to look at the, the culture at the moment. Why those didn't hit. Were we shifting to more now we want to go back to simulation titles. Was it NBA 2K was all of a sudden let me be my player and I was playing those kind of street moments but with myself and my friends. Was it, hey, we're just burnt out on this because it was coming out at such a rapid pace of 1 to 2 to 3. The Home Court to phenom where it's like these are too many games. Was it. Yeah, it's just a weird maybe could.

[A]

Have been like feature creep. Like maybe they after you, after you hit perfection with NBA 3 volume 2, I think you look at it and go, what do we add to this? Like how do we make this better? And honestly, like I don't know if there was much to build on there. Like I think you really just maybe should have just made the same game again and didn't touch it or something. Maybe just update the roster or some shit or add a new mode. Like I think maybe they just got too cute with. And that was also what like I think maybe during the turn of the generation of, you know, new consoles weren't that far away, were getting into 360, getting into PS3 so maybe they, they were focusing on fidelity like what happened there.

[B]

So now continuing with football. Back to football.

[A]

So right now we have NFL Street.

[B]

Volume 2 has to be on the list.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I, I think it has to be on the list.

[A]

I wouldn't be so. I would not be surprised if it's not though.

[B]

Okay, so now we get into the Maddens, right? I brought up Madden back. I will never forget the Brett Favre football on the N64 that had a red game cartridge that I would play non stop. And then into Madden after that with all of my favorite athletes on the COVID Right? So you have Madden. You also had at the day and time NFL Fever Bless where Xbox was making that. Then you also had NBA or NFL 2K. So you had a bunch. You had like three big heavy hitters. And if you ask kids, people will probably light up for 2k. Some people will say, oh man, I loved Fever. People loved Madden. Of course some were bringing like quarterback cones of vision so you'd be playing but you'd have to have the cone of vision on the wide receiver to throw the pass to him or else he wouldn. As opposed to Madden, where you can whip that thing anywhere on the field. It doesn't matter if you're looking or not. Cone of vision was cool. First person mode on some of these was crazy.

[A]

I think there's a right answer here though, right? Like, is it Madden? I think because Madden is ended up being the most popular one and the most successful one. I think if you're making a list like this, you go, all right, it's going to be Madden. Which one was the best? Madden.

[B]

Yeah, but you're so you're telling me we have techno ball into blitz.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

We can't put four football games. You only gonna put three.

[A]

Well, like NFL street two.

[B]

Oh, my God. NFL street too.

[A]

And here's the problem, because I think. I think this is where you put a college game.

[B]

College football has to be on this.

[A]

College football should be on the list.

[B]

Football, college football. 2014 will be on the list.

[A]

2014 is the one.

[B]

2014 will be the one. I mean, unless this was made four months ago and it's. This was football.

[A]

This was made two weeks ago.

[B]

So it could be the new college football. But I'm gonna say college football 2014 will be the one on the list. Okay, I think it's that one.

[A]

Then do you think they also put a mad. Here's my thing is I think Madden is on. But then like.

[B]

But does that.

[A]

We're talking about five American football games. No way. I think NFL, street two goes.

[B]

Street two goes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Street two makes our list.

[A]

It makes our list.

[B]

Two goes. But then that means you leave off game day, you leave off NFL fever, you leave off NFL 2K. Three big franchises throughout the history of time with football.

[A]

Well, let's continue with the sports.

[B]

What a crazy time.

[A]

Crazy time. All right, so baseball, mlb, the show has to be on here.

[B]

Mlb the show.

[A]

I don't care what.

[B]

She's the best. Baseball sim.

[A]

Backyard baseball. We have written down backyard baseball.

[B]

I like that. I like that.

[A]

And then do we. Do we do too much more with baseball?

[B]

Slugfest is a great one. It's an honorable mention. I don't think it goes on there. You also have to bring up MLB 2K, that was offering a million dollars if you pitched a perfect game. Don't forget that. 2K was also making an MLB baseball game. And they had crazy commercials of like, if you pitch perfect game, you get a million dollars. That shit was fucking crazy. That people Were trying to do that. I tried. It was fun.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

That's sick.

[A]

Oh, we were saying All Star baseball. I forgot about all star baseball. I had two. I also had 2003 Mario sluggers I.

[B]

Have on my list here.

[A]

Well, here's the. Oh, we're going to get to Mario.

[B]

Because Mario has some bangers.

[A]

Mario has some bangers. I don't know if baseball is the one to go with first. You're going with Mario Sports games.

[B]

But it's so good.

[A]

But you. But tennis and what was the other one I was thinking of? Oh, tennis and golf.

[B]

Golf.

[A]

Tennis and golf are the ones. Tennis and golf. You got to go.

[B]

I'll say something crazy.

[A]

Say it.

[B]

MLB and soccer. Don't forget about Strikers.

[A]

It's not going to. It's not going to make the list.

[B]

Mario Baseball. Better than tennis. More fun to play.

[A]

You're going crazy now.

[B]

You're going crazy.

[A]

You're going too crazy.

[B]

I'm telling you. Mario baseball game was awesome.

[A]

Well, here's the thing. If you want to talk about Nintendo and baseball, we sports. It's going to be on the list.

[B]

Wii.

[A]

This is where we talk about Wii Sports.

[B]

We're putting Wii Sports on this list.

[A]

We're putting. Wii Sports might be number two. Wii Sports might be top two and maybe not number two. I'm riding down Wii Sports.

[B]

Yeah. Mario. Mario. It's its own thing. Mario. It's its own Lane is pretty wild, bro.

[A]

Yeah. So then for baseball, I have backyard baseball, MLB the Show and Wii Sports.

[B]

Yeah. We're not giving any love to Slug fest. We're not giving any love to 2K. The show has to go on there because it is the best, best baseball sim ever. I'm trying to think of some older like there's weird Nintendo baseball games. What about Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball on the N64?

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

Griffey Jr. Slug.

[A]

Well, there's got to be. I feel like there's got to be some 8 bit, 16 bit.

[B]

That's what I'm talking about. I. I have in my mind because. Oh, on soccer I forgot to Men. Oh, we haven't got the soccer yet.

[A]

I mean we can get soccer right now.

[B]

Well, I. I mean Mega Man Soccer. You talk about those weird eight bit like 16 bit games. We're like, oh, like there's baseball games out there that definitely had some love. The bigs. The bigs was m. MLB the show before MLB the Show. The bigs was MLB the Show before the show.

[A]

RBI Baseball People. People talking about too. RBI knows. Popular. But that's the thing is like, when we start talking about those, it's like, okay, but we're not going to put that over NBA live in, like, NFL. Like, there's so many of the top, like, cream of the crop for like the other sports.

[B]

Five games.

[A]

Eat sports. Yeah, eat sport. You're not going to get more than four.

[B]

That's correct.

[A]

You're not going to get. So like, for baseball, I think three. For baseball is like.

[B]

I think each sports are two, I guess. Yeah. We're gonna get into skateboarding, snowboarding.

[A]

So let's get to soccer.

[B]

All right. Soccer.

[A]

You're gonna get a FIFA. I don't know which FIFA, but you're gonna get E FIFA.

[B]

You'll get a FIFA Pro Evolution.

[A]

You're gonna get a Pro Evolution.

[B]

You get Pro Evolution. Wow.

[A]

Yeah. You're basically gonna get a Pro evolution from like mid 2000s.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like maybe 2004 or 5, I think somewhere around there. And then a FIFA from early 2010s. Maybe mid-20s. Anywhere in the 20s.

[B]

I was playing FIFA way back in the day. It's crazy how much soccer has been in our lives. I'm sure YouTube less of, like, I think about going to cousin Peter's house, who was a big soccer player. And like, all we did when we went to Cousin Peter's house was playing insane soccer games way back in the early 2000s, probably the late 90s, where it's like, how are we playing soccer? When you think back, how is this even dude possible?

[A]

Yeah, because that was fun. Like, I remember playing. I was looking up flash soccer games back in the day. I used to. I used to be on like the, like, mini clip and shit, playing soccer, flash games. And then that evolved into me being at my cousin John's place back when we lived in Nigeria and he had a computer. And I'd be obsessed with, like, playing FIFA. It must have been FIFA 2004, 2005 or some shit. And then moving back to the US and then eventually buying FIFA 2005 for PS2. Playing that forever. And then, like, once me and my friends discovered FIFA 10 and, like, one of them had a PS3. Oh, dude. It was done. It was over. Like, we were playing FIFA nonstop.

[B]

I mean, you'll know it and I'll give the hot take, but it's not a hot take because I think everyone will agree. Soccer, AKA FIFA, AKA football.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is a video game that can bring anyone from anywhere together. College dorm rooms, kids from other countries that You've never met you traveling around the globe. If you put FIFA Soccer on a television screen, anyone and their mama can pick up the controller, start playing and smile and have fun.

[A]

FIFA, I mean soccer is a worldwide sport.

[B]

It's the biggest video game though is probably one of the few video games that everyone on planet Earth could pick up and smile and come together and have a good.

[A]

I was listening to KFC this morning and you guys were talking about like EA FC and it underperforming in like the state of ultimate team or whatever. Right? And like I wasn't on, obviously I wasn't on there so I couldn't give my, my viewpoint. But like as you guys are talking about it, I was thinking about the fact that I think even if ultimate team ends up not be not hitting the way that it like has hit in the past, they're going to find something else because guess what? EAF like soccer as a video game. EAFC is here to stay no matter what, never will. So like even if the mode is making less money, guess what? Give it a few years. They will find the other money making mode to put in there.

[B]

So some shout outs for soccer. Of course we gave some love to Mega Man Soccer. I wanted to call, write that down World Sensible Soccer, those weird games back in the day honestly might make the list. I think it might, might, might be one of those weird games if they.

[A]

Have like somebody from the UK now.

[B]

Let me give you, let me give you Snow Bike Mike's favorite soccer game. Top three soccer game of all time. Tell me you got to give some love to Mario Strikers. Of course you got to give love to FIFA. Like you brought up Sega Soccer Slam. Oh if you've never played Sega Soccer Slam on the Nintendo GameCube or the original Xbox PS2, this was one of the goats. Bless. This was different teams made up of different, you know, themes that all had superpowers and you were playing 4v4 kind of arcadey indoor soccer blast.

[A]

Let me hit you with two that could be on the list. Football manager a sensation.

[B]

Crazy. I would love to play that one. I would try it.

[A]

It would, it would, it'd be too much for me. I don't think I could keep up with it.

[B]

So you don't actually. So in my mind you don't actually watch football. It's just a screen with the players jersey numbers and it's telling you what happens.

[A]

Like maybe.

[B]

Yeah, because what I like a couple years ago. Bless. You know you had it in the questions. They had AFC Richmond AKA of course, Ted Lasso's team in FIFA. I wanted to do a franchise with them where I just let it play in the background while I'm folding laundry and living life. But watch the soccer games. They wouldn't let me do that, so I would just do quick games.

[A]

I mean, Scott by or sort of our first name in Chat says, no, you watch the games play out. Tricky says, now you see the game happen.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So maybe football manager could be for you.

[B]

Football manager might be me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

That's one author out there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't. I don't know if it'll be on the list, but I could see it on the list. The other one that I think for sure is going to be on the list for soccer. Rocket League.

[B]

Rocket League. We get into a tricky one.

[A]

Rocket League, I think.

[B]

But it's still. It's sports at its core.

[A]

It's one of the best soccer games.

[B]

It's one of the best games ever. Yeah, it's sports at its core.

[A]

It is sports at its core, but it's far.

[B]

It's kind of a reach.

[A]

It's kind of a reach, but it's there. It's in the same vein as Knockout City.

[B]

It's on.

[A]

So from here, where I want to go, Mike, is I just want to put for a category. I just want to say everything else, because we could list even more sports, but we're at the point where we just got to, like, start listening to the greatest.

[B]

Because, like, did you put FIFA street on this? I don't think FIFA street make.

[A]

No, I didn't put Fever street one or two.

[B]

No, surprisingly, they made a two.

[A]

They made a three. Yeah, Mike, they made a three.

[B]

That's crazy. Okay, keep it going.

[A]

I forget which one I had, but, like, I. I don't think I really enjoyed the one I played. It might have been three people calling.

[B]

Out winning 11 as well before we leave soccer.

[A]

But, like, winning 11 is part of Pro Evolution Soccer.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm pretty sure that's in the same.

[B]

Yeah, it looks like it thing.

[A]

So let me know, Chad, if I'm wrong. But everything else. Tony Hawk. We gotta talk about it. Which one is gonna be. This is gonna be on there?

[B]

The first or second one, Tony Hawk.

[A]

Let'S say Pro Skater 2.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Though I think the last list we did fumbled a little bit because they went Tony Hawk. Pro Skater one.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

And I don't know if that's the right choice. I would go two or three.

[B]

Okay, okay, Okay.

[A]

I can see three there. And then also I think you could. You could get skateboard.

[B]

Skate. Skate should be on this list. Yeah, skate is an all. If we're getting into extreme sports, skate should be on this list. Are we getting into the old school Olympic Games as well? I used to rent Winter Olympic Games and freaking Summer Olympic games on the N64 all the time back in the day.

[A]

I love that for you.

[B]

Bobsledding, pole vaulting, that was.

[A]

You know what though?

[B]

They made those crazy ass.

[A]

They did make those games and they were great. That's back then where they were just like, I'll make anything like. Because I do remember playing those games at my next door neighbor's house. His name was Freddy. Used to play games that played all the time. He had the Xbox and that was like my first time ever like encountering an Xbox and he had the Olympic Games and like he would just wipe by like you just fucking wipe the floor with me. Just. Just terrorizing me in these fucking video games.

[B]

Got to give a shout out. Here's a fun one. Someone wrote it in the chat. Skate 2 or skate 3? Bless.

[A]

I never. I only played skate 3.

[B]

Skate 2. The better game. You think so they have Danny Ways. Danny Way's Funhouse or vacation, whatever it is. Hollywood Vacation or. Yeah. Something something holiday. And it's the best. Okay, because they made a second one in three. Not as good as the first one. Not as good as the OG messed.

[A]

Up on that Tony Hawk Skate 2. What about Punch Out?

[B]

What about Punch Out? What about. What about Fight Night? Fight Night is the best boxing game of all time.

[A]

Yeah, but is it one of the best sports games?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What is there a MMA UFC game?

[B]

Y'all better get ready for my top 100 list. Y'all better fucking get ready for snowball stop one.

[A]

Fight night round is round three. Which one was the one that was like I think straddle generations a bit.

[B]

I think it's. I think three is the three. The one is the one.

[A]

Because I remember, I remember having round three. Was that the one? Where were they like bragging a lot about like the sweat physics and like.

[B]

The water physics that might have been fight champion?

[A]

Yes to. Cuz I played the one I'm thinking of. I played on PS2 and like every punch there would be sweat and spit just flying everywhere.

[B]

The best.

[A]

And then like between rounds you would have to like tend to their injuries. Uhhuh.

[B]

That was crazy.

[A]

Is that Round three?

[B]

I mean all of them, I think, had that. So you had Fight two, Fight Night Round two with Bhop the Executioner.

[A]

BHOP the Executioner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Crazy. Okay, Fight night has to be on there.

[A]

Fight Night. Punch out.

[B]

Ready to Rumble, Chad Rumble. That's my favorite. That's what I love. Honestly, that's one of my favorite of all time.

[A]

Yeah, it won't fit on the list, but shout out to Ready to Rumble. I don't think it'll fit on.

[B]

We don't give enough love to Ready to Rumble boxing.

[A]

But back in the day we did though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like back when we were kids. You. Why, Mike? Why did every kid that had an N64 have ready to Rumble boxing? It was great because it was at every kid's house. Was it a packing title chat? It was everywhere.

[B]

It was so good, bro. Okay, now we're getting to. Okay, we go down the list. So we had Skate, we had Tony Hawk. Now we get into snowboarding. Let's talk snowboarding for a second.

[A]

Sex Tricky.

[B]

Gotta be on Sex Tricky.

[A]

It's got to be on Amped. I don't even know what that is.

[B]

Sean Palmer's 1080. Snowboarding. Snowboard kids. Sean White snowboarding.

[A]

There's a Sean Palmer and a Sean White.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought you missed. I thought you missed the first time.

[B]

1080.

[A]

I think SX Tricky is the only one out of those.

[B]

Wow. Disrespect to amp.

[A]

I'm sorry, you think AMP is going to knock out backyard baseball off the list? You think AMP is going to get up in there? Not enough spot above Mega Man Soccer. Not enough spots, man.

[B]

I mean, Shredders should be on the Shredders is one of the best snowboarding games to date. Sean White had a snowboarding kid. Amped was good. Snowboard kids was great. Oh, my God.

[A]

I mean, if we're doing a top 10 snowboarding games list, I think you're right. This top 25 best sports, top 25 best games ever.

[B]

We ain't got time.

[A]

We got. We ain't got the space. All we a got that.

[B]

Okay, how about Kelly Slater's Pro Surfing?

[A]

I didn't know that. I don't know. I didn't know they made a. A surfing game. What does that even look like in gameplay?

[B]

Surfing. Bro, you're ripping the curl. Bro, you're ripping the curl.

[A]

I mean, what about. Oh, I had one of the wrestling. You're not talking about wrestling.

[B]

Well, let's hold for wrestling for just a second because we had scooters and 64 had a Razor scooter video game. And bless, it was surprisingly good. I don't want to play the race.

[A]

I feel like you're. I feel like you're bullshitting.

[B]

It was Tony Hawk, but on a scooter.

[A]

Oh, wait. This actually sounds very familiar.

[B]

Surprising.

[A]

I think I might have seen this.

[B]

And here's one we didn't even talk about. You have, of course, Downhill mountain biking. We had that mountain biking game. We had the motorcycles. We haven't talked about either. The dirt bikes.

[A]

O. MX versus ATV.

[B]

MSX versus ATV.

[A]

MX versus ATV.

[B]

Freak style. That was made by 2K.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Made by EA.

[A]

Big BMX triple X.

[B]

Blessing. There's some insane video games that was going down at this time.

[A]

I don't think any of those on the list. MX versus atv. That's not gonna be on the list. But part of me wants to believe. But no.

[B]

This is a top pro fishing.

[A]

The problem with this list. The problem with the top 25. The problem with this top 25 is that you're gonna have to do. No, there's no stretching required for this one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, there's no. There's no reaching. It's not. There's no reason why we had to let bass pro fishing on the list. We're struggling.

[B]

It's a good fishing game.

[A]

We're strug. Googling. We got NFL Blitz. We got NBA Street Volume 2. We got. We got MLB the Show. We got FIFA Pro Evolution. We don't need a search for games, Mike.

[B]

I need to give a shout out to a paintball video game I played way back in the day.

[A]

We've not even talked about that many Mario sports.

[B]

Shout out to paintball, bro. Paintball video games were all the craze at one point.

[A]

I'm telling.

[B]

There's too many paintball video games.

[A]

I'm talking about Mario Tennis and Mario Golf. All right, Scooters, before we go to ad because we're gonna go to AD and then we're gonna get to the actual list.

[B]

We promise.

[A]

Any last ones?

[B]

There's so many. Bless.

[A]

There's. There are so many.

[B]

Plus there's so many great sports games out there that I'm sure you and I in the audience have played with our friends or by ourselves and just smiled. We haven't even talked about sports game soundtracks and how much those carried weights, how important those were.

[A]

Oh, we haven't talked about hockey. NHL, NHL hits. Yeah.

[B]

And how good NHL is right now. You know, Shell doesn't get enough love. I'll say it right now. That's the world of Shell.

[A]

That's who.

[B]

Yeah. NHL, the video game created their own very similar. My player like NBA 2K, it's called World of Shell where you can play threes, there's no rules, you can play 5v5, but you're playing as my player. Not enough love for those who is shell that. World of Shell, World of Hockey, that's what they call it. Shell.

[A]

Like NHL. Is that like the.

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

No.

[B]

I don't know how we pronounce shell and what it breaks down to. You just say shell. Okay. People know. They know what the.

[A]

I don't think people know because I.

[B]

Didn'T know they know what the.

[A]

No, people are. People are saying I'm right.

[B]

Okay. I like that.

[A]

I like that people are saying, yeah, NHL. So chill. All right, cool. I get it. All right. We're going to go to ad and when we come back we're going to actually dive into in the comments.

[B]

Let us know what you forgot.

[A]

Yeah, and super chat and we have quite a few. We actually have a lot of super chats. So we'll get into the super chats as we go. Let us know what sports games we might be missing from the ones we mentioned, what you thought, what you think belongs on the list. But for now, let me tell you about patreon.com kind of funny and YouTube.com kind of funny games where you can get the kind of funny membership which allows you to get shows ad free. And speaking of ads, let us tell you about our sponsors.

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Back and we're gonna get into the list. But before we do, I do want to read off the stuff that we've written down and then I want to get into super chats because a lot of people are throwing stuff at us in super chats. So to start off, of course, we did NBA or we did basketball, then football, then baseball, then soccer and then everything else. And so starting at the top, what we have written down here for top 25 best sports games, things that we think should make the list.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

NBA Street Volume 2, NBA Jam, NBA Live 2005, NBA 2K11, NFL Blitz, Techmo bowl, college football, 2014, Madden. We wrote down NFL Street 2 because it would be on our list, but then we crossed it out because it was too much Football, Y Backyard Baseball, mlb, the Show, Wii Sports, FIFA. I, I, I didn't pick a year because I don't even know which year you put. Pro Evolution Soccer. I think one of them in the mid 2000s, Mega Man Soccer, Rocket League. And then you get Tony hawk's Pro Skater 2, Skate 2, Punch Out, Fight Night, SSX, Tricky Mario Tennis, Mario Golf. And then during the break, we wrote down NHL. We didn't have a year because NHL, I think, is just constantly good.

[B]

Yeah, well, we have the original one, like 97 people love to.

[A]

The one from back in the day. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That one.

[B]

That's probably on the list.

[A]

That's a big one.

[B]

It's probably on the list.

[A]

And then Tiger woods wrote down. Tiger Woods.

[B]

Can I tell a quick fun story about Tiger Woods?

[A]

Yeah, go for it.

[B]

Tiger woods on the Wii, of course, grew up AJ's dad, Big Phil Tesoro. Gave off big mobster vibes all the time. Would always sit in the recliner, barely ever say anything to you. Kind of look at you. Yeah, like, man, AJ's dad is so scary. You know, I would eat his donuts with his permission. No.

[A]

Oh my God. No wonder he was fucking mad.

[B]

I've seen a lot of.

[A]

He's looking down at you. Sorry. Big disgust.

[B]

I love those donuts. Big Phil used to play links 2004 on the Xbox. That was one of those original golf games when we get into Tiger woods and some offshoot ones. I'll never forget. Links Links is a good game, but Tiger woods on the Wii. Tiger woods added a Frisbee golf mode. I want to know so you can play Frisbee Golf along with that. Never will forget Chuck the Frisbee so hard.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Put my back out and I mean I threw it out with like for a whole week. It hurts.

[A]

How old were you during this?

[B]

Oh, probably 24.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I mean I was given maximum effort.

[A]

Wait, so this man has a 24 year old man coming into his house eating his donuts?

[B]

No, no, no. Phil was a different time. Big Phil was a different time.

[A]

No, no, that was unrelated. What's funny is I. I was thinking about you have a grown man coming.

[B]

Into my home and eating my donuts.

[A]

I hate him. I was thinking about a 16 year old mike throwing his back out. Yeah, yeah. How are you throwing your back out at that young 24? All right, cool.

[B]

Rip that thing.

[A]

We're getting there.

[B]

People wrote Golden Tea the ultimate bar game.

[A]

See, what's the one?

[B]

Big Buck Hunter.

[A]

Which one? Well, I was gonna bring up Cabela. Does Cabela end up on the list? But which one is. This is the golf game where you had the ball.

[B]

Conti.

[A]

Dude, that gold T, that belongs on the list.

[B]

You know, Golden Tea belongs.

[A]

I don't know where I was. Where I was playing hella Golden Tea with friends.

[B]

Oh, Golden Tea's great.

[A]

Like obsessed.

[B]

Golden Tea esports tournament that travels around the globe.

[A]

No way. Yeah. That's awesome.

[B]

I follow him. I wanted to commentate one now.

[A]

Do we get into esports. Does Overwatch make this list? I want to read some of you guys. Super chats. Alex Frazier writes in and says wanted to extend a huge thank you to the community for the love I received this week. My mom passed away on Wednesday after a long battle with dementia and cancer. Hold your loved ones tight. Thank you so much for spreading the love. And yeah, very sorry to hear that. Tyler Wallace writes in and says, is fall guys a sports game? No.

[B]

The ultimate.

[A]

The ultimate. No.

[B]

Wipeout? No, they made Wipeout for the Connect. You're doing this. Doing this.

[A]

That doesn't end well. Alex Fawcett writes in and says amped for the OG Xbox. And what my and Mike. What about backyard sports? Of course we did talk about that.

[B]

Backyard sports. I think one of them will be on the list.

[A]

Baseball.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Street Shadow rights. And it says can we do a kind of funny EA big tournament. SSX Tricky NBA street and NFL Street Gauntlet. Yeah. I don't want that smoke. I'll tell you right now.

[B]

Maybe this March. Keep an eye out. I have an idea.

[A]

Side of fries says NHL 08 or NHL 14.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Golden Arms PR says NFL 2K5 was so much better than Madden. And EA so scared. Made EA so scared that they made an exclusivity deal with the NFL and killed NFL 2K.

[B]

I think that's what happened. Yeah, that's. That's a crazy story.

[A]

So many chats says Hydro Thunder. We didn't even talk about Wave race.

[B]

Hydro Thunder. Wave Race.

[A]

But again, those get into like the. I would put those like a best sport and best racing game.

[B]

Okay. But we also didn't talk about wrestling as well. You kind of brought it up like Def Jams on this.

[A]

Is it like do we put sports entertainment here? I guess. Is there sports in the name? But like we stretch so much. Like, I don't know if wrestling makes the list.

[B]

I'm gonna have an insane top 100.

[A]

Because you can make. Because you can make it a separate wrestling list at that point. Point. Right. You're talking about no Mercy Smackdown vs Raw Def Jam Vendetta. Right. Like the list goes on. It. It gets tough. And we know that wrestling is a sport and that racing is a sport. But like when you talk. When you we. It just gets too complicated. There's so many racing games and where do you cut the line? Alec Bobco writes in and says shout out to the bigs baseball game. Lucien Oriole writes in and says honorable mention. Monkey Soccer was a mini game in AV Escape 2. It is un. Unironically a phenomenal arcade soccer game. Sort by first name. Says my get weird with it wish list. Ready to rumble. Aggressive Inline. Ronaldo v Football Outlaw Golf. NBA Ballers. Rockstar Table tennis. Simpsons Wrestling. Track and field. We didn't talk about Track and Field. Champman01 and Cricket07.

[B]

You're getting weird with it. Cricket.

[A]

Cricket. We didn't talk about.

[B]

You remember when I asked Greg if he'd give me a rump? A rugby code? I wanted to play rugby really bad.

[A]

Why did you want to play rugby?

[B]

I wanted to. I wanted to understand the sport. Like cricket.

[A]

Honestly, stand I Most sports. I learned the rules because of video games. So I get it.

[B]

I. I need to understand rugby and cricket. Those are the two sports in my life. I have no idea what's happening.

[A]

I could see a track and field.

[B]

They ever make a darts video game? Darts is very popular across the pond.

[A]

I've seen a lot of darts in video games. I have to imagine that there is.

[B]

A darts video, like a very competitive darts.

[A]

There must be.

[B]

You know they get lit at the darts competition.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[B]

They sing, they dance.

[A]

Oh, lit. Like that.

[B]

Oh, lit.

[A]

I thought you just meant, like, they're very competitive.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

I mean they're dancing.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

They're at the sports event.

[B]

They're pumping up the crowd. People are chanting and screaming. Those people in the uk, they got it right.

[A]

Oh, they do that. They know how to give it to them. They know how to chant over there. Jim says if Hot Shots Golf isn't on the list, it's invalid. Yeah, everybody's golf. Hot Shots Golf.

[B]

Yeah. But then, like, I feel not gonna make the list.

[A]

It's tough because then you're competing with Mario Golf. And I think Mario Golf makes.

[B]

Mario Golf makes it.

[A]

Yeah. Diego writes in and says Tiger Woods. C.J. splits in. Right in and says super dodgeball. What you know about that? Bless. I don't think I've played super dodgeball.

[B]

Super DOD Ball.

[A]

Yeah. Greg Westlake writes in, says this won't be on the list, but shout out to prize fighter on Sega cd. And then lastly, Corey PG writes in and says, here comes the pain. Makes the list. No question.

[B]

Here's the issue. Super dodgeball. Shout out whatever that game is. I'm sure it was great. Nobody has ever captured the feeling of dodgeball. Like Knockout City.

[A]

Yep. Like Knockout City. If this list has holy. If this list has the sauce, Knockout City is making the list.

[B]

How good was that game? They absolutely understand the feeling of staring down Your opponent and doing this, trying to get ready to catch it. Like there's something to be said when you got the ball and you're gonna hit somebody with it, but on the other side, you doing this trying to get ready to catch the ball is one of the greatest feelings in. In life. We had they captured in a video.

[A]

In the smileys we had a player's choice award, right. Where like each player or each host chooses a game from the year that like, they want to make sure it gets its flowers because they're afraid it's not going to get his flowers. I feel like at the end of the generation, when I'm looking back through the seven years of PS5 and Xbox Series X, Knockout City might get my players choice of, hey, this deserved better. Like this game should have been one of the most popular games of the generation. Like Knockout City was fun. Like you can't imagine. It felt like. It felt like any sports big game. It captured. Yeah, that feeling of dodgeball. It was a really great competitive game. It had really good energy, really good art style. It did everything. Everything. It did everything.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Mike, are you ready to get into the top 25?

[B]

I'm ready. Let's jump into the top 25.

[A]

At number 25, we got Wii Sports lower than I thought it would get.

[B]

Wii Sports is Probably a top 10 sports game of all time.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

It should probably. If you're making a top 25 list, Wii Sports should be in the top 10 guaranteed.

[A]

Do you think it's because it lacks depth? Right. Like, I think the thing that Wii Sports gets right is how approachable it is and how much it hit and like icon status. But there are definitely deeper sports games. There are. There are other games that maybe represent the sports better.

[B]

But I like that you're coming at it like that because that's clearly what the list maker probably intended here of. Hey, let's give it the flowers. Because it was very special. It was a good sports game, but it doesn't have the. It doesn't actually capture the feel of all these real sports titles that I'm gonna hit you with.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Here on the list. But. But we remember we can always get into a conversation of placement, but like it being on the list, it's shining.

[A]

You know, one thing I do want to acknowledge with esports is I do think it also had highs and lows. When we think of Wii Sports, it is baseball and it is tennis.

[B]

Whoa. Bowling.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Bowling. You're right. You're right.

[B]

Boxing.

[A]

But like I love sword fighting. Sword fighting wasn't in this one.

[B]

Wasn't it?

[A]

That was a resort.

[B]

So what was in the. What was in the beginning?

[A]

It was those four. So it was bowling, baseball, tennis, boxing, and golf.

[B]

Oh, perfect.

[A]

I feel like boxing and golf didn't get as much love as the other three sports. I feel like those other three sports, especially bowling. Bowling might have been number one.

[B]

Oh, I thought bowling was number one.

[A]

Yeah. Bowling, I would say probably number one. And then baseball and tennis maybe tied for number two.

[B]

Number two. Oh, you don't think golf is in the mix there?

[A]

No. Like, and I'm. And I'm thinking about, like, I'm thinking about, like, when my parents would come through.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

And they're playing Wii Sports. Like they're picking a bolt. Like we. We almost broke so many TVs since my dad didn't know how to put the strap on. You know what I mean? Don't take that crazy what I just said.

[B]

Got him.

[A]

But like, hey, yo, remember when he's like, it's not me. I'm not the one that starts the chaos by saying crazy things that we jump on. You know what I mean? But like, when you get to boxing and like, I feel like boxing. Actually, you know what? Fuck it. Maybe I'm wrong because I did love boxing.

[B]

All of them were great. Yeah. Perfect.

[A]

You're right. You're right.

[B]

Perfect title.

[A]

You're take. I take it back. Number 24.

[B]

Number 24.

[A]

Mario Golf 64. N 64. Which is the right choice.

[B]

It's the right choice. That's the best one.

[A]

They are starting Nintendo off a bit low here. It feels like they might be prioritizing.

[B]

Like the real sports field.

[A]

Yeah, maybe they're prioritizing like more of the sim. Sim type sports game.

[B]

Okay, we'll find out. Mario Golf at the time. Unbelievable. Unreal. On the N64.

[A]

So fun.

[B]

This was a game I was obsessed with. Into Mario Tennis, of course, which I think Mario Tennis on N64 was the best one. I know it's improved a lot. But like, Truly, honestly, these N64 titles for Mario were some of the best times you could ever have. They were unbelievable.

[A]

Mario Tennis. Oh, well, hopefully we get there.

[B]

Martinis is incredible.

[A]

Mario Golf being this low on the list makes me think that tennis. Mario Tennis might not make the list.

[B]

Impossible.

[A]

Maybe they go with it was a hot shots Tennis. Right?

[B]

What are you gonna put. You're gonna put top spin on it, maybe? No.

[A]

You don't think there's any other, like, Mario tennis game. Okay, listen, I agree. Yeah, but I never played Hotshot center, so I don't know what the vibe is. Okay, and number 23, Rocket League. So far we're calling it.

[B]

We've.

[A]

We've nailed these so far.

[B]

So far you have. You have a list of 25 games and we've only seen three that are all on. These are all good games right here.

[A]

And all three of these may be on my top 10.

[B]

I mean, Rocket League and Wii Sports probably in the top 10. But like, hey, now you got the. You got three big ones here. Got three big ones.

[A]

Interesting that we're starting off with three arcade. Arcadey type games. I feel like you guys were naming a bunch of games. These you weren't naming though. You know what I mean? So like maybe this list makes sense so far. Yeah, I mean but we did name. We did name these though. But like you guys weren't deep diving and going back and forth about these. These were kind of just like throwing.

[B]

Yeah, because they're gonna be up there.

[A]

But I also think these were given for us. I think these are one of the ones where it's like. I think what I'm saying is them being this high, maybe it makes sense. Maybe it makes sense.

[B]

Okay, let's see what 22 is. I'm excited. Rocket League deserves all the flowers.

[A]

22, Tony Hawks, pro skater one number one. Why is it always one, people?

[B]

Why is it got to be two?

[A]

Because two is better and three is the best.

[B]

I think one just. I think one's the one you remember the most. For some of these people that might not be as into it as you and Tim were. I think one stands out to me. One's the one I remember the most.

[A]

I guess that's fair.

[B]

It's like just the moment, the soundtrack, the gameplay was all different, new and exciting and like it stood out. I think that's why number one, it just. That's the one I remember.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[B]

Like other people, we just loop all of them together.

[A]

That is true.

[B]

One through three. I. It's a blur of what they all. What was really different about each one. They all were doing the same again.

[A]

Very interesting that we're still in the arcadey sphere. Like I wonder if we're gonna get to where we're getting like a straight run of more sim type.

[B]

We hit like we hit 17 and. Or 17 or 15. It's like no more.

[A]

No more.

[B]

Now I only give you simulation.

[A]

Like serious.

[B]

Find out.

[A]

Number 21. We got SSX Tricky. Oh, SSX Tricky. Hey, now again, very interesting that these are the bottom five. I would have mixed some of these. Again, not seeing the rest of the list. Maybe it'll make sense when we get top 15 game. But like most. Most of the games we just read here I feel like are all top 15.

[B]

I think you got it right. Of like there is a clear line that they're going to create of like I've now switched gears and I'm only giving you what traditional sports fans would think is a sports game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

SSX got to be on there.

[A]

Has to be on there.

[B]

Fantastic.

[A]

So far, I think we've called all of these right. Tony Hawk, Pro Skater. I said too. But for franchise, we've called every single.

[B]

One of these so far.

[A]

At number 20, we got WWE Smackdown. Here comes the pain. Very surprised. All right, so we're widening the margins here. We might see some racing games here.

[B]

We've got our first like here's wrestling is in here.

[A]

Now my question with this, why this one? Why this one?

[B]

Why this one?

[A]

I'm surprised. Could we still see no mercy on here.

[B]

Exactly. Why? Why this one? What. What did this one bring that like the other ones didn't bring?

[A]

Yeah, this is interesting. It's funny because this is also one of the ones that I ended up skipping because I went from just smackdown, just bring it. Which I believe was before this. And then I skipped this and like I think one other one and then went smackdown versus raw and then went raw 2007 and smackdown versus raw 2007. To this day I still hold up there is like the best. Wow. Smackdown vs Raw 2007 was different for me. It was different.

[B]

Any wrestling on the N64 was my only touchstone to wrestling. Then after that I hadn't played wrestling until we started playing WWE 2K with Greg and Kevin, a sex my buddy. I There's a whole blank slate here. Of these PS2 game eras. I never played any of these.

[A]

Now Red Hudson says, here comes the pain. Change the game with Creations. And I think that I the chat cut off, but I think it said like seasons and stuff.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like, okay, if this was a landmark, especially for creations, then I get it. I guess I can read the blurb here, right?

[B]

Read the blurb for the.

[A]

The first WWE Smackdown to not reference a catchphrase from the Rock in its title was a big moment for WWE video games. It's the first to bring you both the elimination chamber and bra and panties matches, which I'll pause there. Mike When I tell you, when I got to smackdown versus Raw and I saw on the menu, bra and panties match, my 10 year old brain exploded. Exploded. Was so hyped at 10 years old.

[B]

You know about the secret sexy photos in Def Jam?

[A]

No. Let me tell you about the loading, the loading screens. This matchup versus RAW 2007 where I'm unlocking Mickey James loading screen.

[B]

I'm. Yo, there's a moment where it's like, okay, young boys, like, what the is happening here?

[A]

That age is different because it's like I don't have. Listen, Mike, at the age of. When was I playing Spectrum versus RAW 2007? I think I was 13 or 14.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's not like I had unlimited access to the Internet like I had now, right? Like now I have a phone, right? I can search whatever I want. But like, sometimes you gotta unlock a loading screen to see some things. You know what I mean?

[B]

Saw a crazy one.

[A]

Oh, we're recording.

[B]

Off topic. Crazy one.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Come on. The Internet. Come on, girl. October girl's been gone for two months. Yeah, she is a scheduled appearance with who? Next month. Alexis Texas.

[A]

No way.

[B]

You're lying.

[A]

You're lying.

[B]

You're lying. You're lying. The most insane I've ever seen. Blessing.

[A]

Blessing.

[B]

What does that appear? Will she come out of hiding?

[A]

Why is Alexis the one to bring her out of hiding out of all people?

[B]

I don't know. Just like, you know, I was reading it of like, someone put up a post of like, we haven't seen the Hawk to a girl in two months since the crypto rug pull. People were like, she's in Mexico. She's doing this. And they're like, well, she has a scheduled appearance with Alexis Texas next month.

[A]

You understand how crazy everything you just said is? We haven't seen Hawk tool girl since the crypto rug pull. But now she's scheduled to hang out with Alexis.

[B]

We live in a insane world. We live in an insane world.

[A]

People think I don't have my finger on the poles. You know what I mean? Like, come on.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

You can't make this up. All right, here comes the pain.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

At. What was that? Number 20. That was number 20. Now we're down to number 19. Yeah, number 19 is NFL street number one.

[B]

I. I personally like one a lot.

[A]

I. I like it.

[B]

So I'm not. We. I'm not. I'm not mad about any of the numbers. There's. I actually tend probably to lean towards 1 over 2 personally. So this is a Great. Pull another arcade title, though. Yeah, another arcade title.

[A]

He's on all arcade, which now I'm like, are we gonna get the sim titles? Like, is this gonna be. Maybe it is the thing of. Maybe this is filled with way more arcade stuff and like, maybe get one or two sim things, which I'm not mad at. Yeah, it would be depending on the choices.

[B]

You think we go to like an NBA street after this NHL?

[A]

Are we better? NBA street better be top 10.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Well, I just mean, like, no, in this, like 1815 range. Like, do we stick with the Arcadia like you said?

[A]

I mean right now, so far, like, I think so.

[B]

NFL street gotta be on the list.

[A]

I. It does feel like they're defaulting to those first titles, though. Like Tony Hawk. All right, cool. I get it so far now. NFL street one.

[B]

Maybe they're just kind of like the. It's a franchise, you know, let's call it franchise.

[A]

Yeah, but then they put in a video of NFL and the NBA street series here. I guess they do. I mean, they lead off with. The NBA street series was a massive success for. For EA Sports Subdivision. EA Sports big. So the next logical, logical step was to apply the formula to NFL. So I think they are just talking about, like the advent of NFL street and then like, kind of what that led to. All right, next up at number 18, we got NFL 2K1. Oh, NFL 2K.

[B]

NFL 2K1 wild. That one's got Randy Moss on the COVID SEGA Dreamcast is kind of the promoted one. This was probably like one of the first true sports sims, especially on the Dreamcast, I think, because they also had NBA 2K with Allen Iverson on the Dreamcast. That's beloved by a lot. I read the blurb. I bet you this is just a history poll.

[A]

Probably another football masterpiece. NFL 2K1 is a big reason why fans are always clamoring for the return of the franchise. The gameplay was way ahead of its time and laid the groundwork for the modern football game. There's a reason the game got it got all a reviews from critics. It's slick and straight to the point. I can't even tell you guys how. How many hours I logged on the Dreamcast playing this one. For me, the Vikings were simply unstoppable. Go routes to Rainy Moss all damn day, Randy.

[B]

Okay, interesting. I mean, we're gonna see. That leads me to believe that we're gonna see the Madden with Mike Vick on the front.

[A]

Which one was that? Was that an old one?

[B]

I guess it must have been a man, 2000 something. Early 2000s.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

Because when you write throwing Randy Moss just straight routes all the time, it's gonna be like, oh, I was nasty with Mike Vick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's how the blurb is gonna write.

[A]

All right, next up, number 18, fight night, round four.

[B]

Round four.

[A]

Round four. That was the one I was talking about, I think. 17, right?

[B]

Round four.

[A]

17. Yeah, sorry.

[B]

Round four, seven. Mike Tyson on the front.

[A]

Oh, this was not the one I was talking.

[B]

I remember this one.

[A]

Yes, yes. I was talking about round three, round four. I played the demo four all the time with Mike Tyson versus Muhammad Ali. Yeah, this was like a next gen or PS3, Xbox.

[B]

This is before they went to champion afterwards, I believe. I think so this is 2009 is what this one was.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know if I would have picked this one, but maybe it is.

[B]

Like, I like that because Champion is 2010. They man back to back on that.

[A]

It's all used.

[B]

And then when is round three? Let's see. Round three was 2006. Yeah, we had some time there.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I like. I like Fight Night. I think Fight Night's got to be on there.

[A]

Fight Night should be.

[B]

White Night's got to be on there. So we're not mad at that.

[A]

At number 16, we got NFL Blitz. That's good so far.

[B]

You got a good list.

[A]

So far. You do have a good list.

[B]

You know the ordering. We might all just debate, but, like, truly and honestly, the list so far, you have the titles that we were looking for.

[A]

Yeah, NFL and NFL Blitz. Out of 16. Sounds right? Like, regardless of the other games that are below it. Because then I look at some of these games that are below, and I'm like, ooh, maybe I'll. Maybe I'll move some of these games up. But if you told me before going into this they're gonna put NFL Blitz at number 16, I'd be like, you know what? That sounds perfect for NFL Blitz on a list like this. At number 15, we got Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004. You gotta have a golf game on.

[B]

There, so you have to have a golf game. Tiger woods PGA Tour 2004. Yep. Tiger.

[A]

It is interesting how. Yeah, we did. It feels like we had the hard shift into sim.

[B]

Now we're starting to get. Oh, you're right. You saw it at number 19, right.

[A]

We had NFL street, but then, like. And that was all Arcade up until that. And then you had the hard turn into NFL. NFL 2K1, Fight Night, Round 4, NFL Blitz. Which isn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But now we have Tiger woods PGA Tour 2004. So it feels like we're getting more into the meat of the list. But I'm kind of. I would have wanted some of those 20 to 25 titles mixed in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I think those are part of the meat here.

[B]

But Tiger woods, one of the best golf games ever. Yeah.

[A]

Got to be on there at number 14. We got tech Mobile.

[B]

We talked about it. It's a classic.

[A]

Iconic classic.

[B]

Started it. Yep.

[A]

Not mad at this. Although is one that I think could have been in that 20 to 25 range.

[B]

Yeah, probably. I probably would have put. Yeah, 14. Looking at the back half, that's where this should probably be. Just with where we're at nowadays. But yeah, Tecmo Ball. The original for sure.

[A]

Yeah. And number 13, Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball. Yeah, there it is.

[B]

Kidding me.

[A]

There it is.

[B]

Now hold up. This is insane. This is the Super Nintendo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I played all the N64 games. So back in the day, because you know, I had the N64, no first party titles. It was nothing but Rampage got the legends Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball. You know, not a single Zelda or Mario ever listed on those. Used to bring Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball to after school programs. I would bring the N64 school because parents, my mom and dad wouldn't pick us up until 5 or 6 o'clock so we would stay after school and me, the camp counselors let me plug it in and I we would plug in MLB and we'd play Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball.

[A]

I love that. I couldn't imagine taking my N64 to school. Like my parents let me unplug that thing and then they have to spend 30 minutes trying to figure out how to replug it. That's why I put the handle on the game.

[B]

Here comes Barrett. Here comes Barrett.

[A]

Oh, I know Barry probably played ken Griffey. Griffey Jr. Baseball kicked so much ass, Mike. It was so good. There you go.

[B]

Derby.

[A]

Oh, I don't remember that. But oh my God. Being able to pick your teams and then going to like still being able to pick like which park you wanted to play as. Like that wasn't necessarily either of those teams was always so goddamn fun. Played so much of that with my aunt. That's awesome.

[B]

Gotta play it. Love it.

[A]

Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League.

[B]

I didn't think Ken Griffey was going to make the list. So many games, so many.

[A]

This is one of those Lists where I almost don't know what to make of it. Because overall, I do think it's good so far.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, like, the picks that they're making in the placement so far, I'm like, it feels a little bit random in terms of some of the placements and, like, how they're going about this.

[B]

It's as if you. We. They probably made the list, like, all of, like, us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we're just like.

[A]

Like, it doesn't feel ranked. Yeah, it just feels like.

[B]

It doesn't feel right.

[A]

It doesn't feel ranked.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At number 12, we got NHL 94. That's the one.

[B]

NHL 94.

[A]

That's the classic one that people always talk about, like, oh, this was one of the greatest. All right. At number 11, we got Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2. We did it.

[B]

We did it.

[A]

All right, cool.

[B]

You can only pick one.

[C]

We.

[A]

We rolled it back.

[B]

All right, that's weird.

[A]

There we go. Because this is the one you're supposed to pick.

[B]

I know, but that's an odd choice to put two Tony Hawks on a top 25.

[A]

Here's the thing. At this rate, you might have three. Like, I missed the first one. What was the first one? The first one was Tony hawk's Pro Skater 1. And when we saw that, we're, like, crazy. We saw that. We were like, oh, that's a weird. That's a weird one to put. Like, to be the one for the list. Now that we hear, like, good. But also very. Again, very interesting that they went with one, because I'm almost like, yo, why. Why don't you go with two and three?

[B]

Yeah, that's what you said, Zach. Like, choose two and three.

[A]

Two and three. Two. And underground, maybe. Or get crazy with underground.

[B]

You pick one, because you just kind of pretend like they're all franchises. Odd that we. Okay, so another slot. They get two.

[A]

Here's the thing, because now I'm thinking NFL Street 2 sells a chance.

[B]

Now let's have some fun. You ready for this?

[A]

What's that?

[B]

We've seen one NHL video game. Do we think we ever see another.

[A]

Another NHL game? Like, when you say NHL, you mean hockey.

[B]

I mean hockey in general. We just saw one hockey game so far.

[A]

I think you get another one. I think you get a modern.

[B]

I'm gonna go with no.

[A]

Oh, you don't think.

[B]

I don't think we'll see another NHL game because we just got two Tony Hawk games, and we still have a lot of area to go.

[A]

Let's see I'm looking at the list that we made. Right. We still need to get an NBA street on here. Did we get an NBA Jam? We've not gone NBA Jam. I think you're gonna get a NBA 2K on here.

[B]

We gotta get a college football. Probably.

[A]

Probably get a college football.

[B]

We haven't got a Madden yet.

[A]

You're gonna get a backyard game. I think still, like, I. I think you could get a backyard game on here. Backyard baseball.

[B]

Yeah, I think you could. I think you still should. Yeah.

[A]

But like, do they put WWII sports number 25 and then a backyard baseball game in the top 10?

[B]

I don't think. I don't think we're gonna see another hockey game.

[A]

I don't think it's crazy because 2003 should be on here. NHL. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is interesting so far. All right, we're entering the top 10 at number 10. We got NBA street volume two. Goat the goat.

[B]

Goat.

[A]

But also 10. I feel like that could be higher, man.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Because like, I think. Okay, realistically, right. If I'm thinking about it, that probably means that NBA Jam is in the top five and they wanted to separate out those arcade titles. I think they want to make space between those.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

NBA Jam has to be. If NBA Jam is in the top five after NBA Street Volume 2 is number 10, then I don't know what we're doing here.

[B]

Well, there's also still 2Ks and lives.

[A]

We're not going to get both this far into the list. You're. You're going to get one.

[B]

We're tightening this list up right now and things are going to slip. Things aren't going to hit. NBA street being a top 10 all time sports game. Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's. Yes.

[A]

Number nine, we got MVP baseball 2005. You heard about MVP baseball? No, Mike hasn't. Bear, have you? Is very similar.

[B]

VP Baseball. I mean, I've heard of it, but I've never played it.

[A]

Oh, God. Yeah. Ask me. Everybody knows baseball.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've played it. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

You played this one.

[B]

I've seen this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was just another. It was EA Sports, just a baseball title in the mix.

[A]

Oh. Everybody in chat is saying they love this game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Everybody in chat is saying they love. Said he's never heard of it. Man. This might have to be a stream.

[B]

This is the one.

[A]

You and Barry might need to play this because like. Yeah, everybody in chat is popping off over this.

[B]

Interesting. Yeah.

[A]

But isn't mvp? Well, we have. I don't Believe in old what?

[B]

We had the bigs on the list. We had, of course, MLB, the show on the list. There was 2K baseball there. There was slug fest. You had MVP. It's crazy how many sports games we get.

[A]

It's crazy how many baseball games we get. There's so many baseball game franchises when.

[B]

You think about it, America's past.

[A]

And I will say, I'm assuming This is like PS2 generation.

[B]

Yes, this is PS.

[A]

But like, this looks fantastic. The visuals of this look really great for PS2.

[B]

EA.

[A]

They might have been cooking with this.

[B]

EA used to have all the sports titles.

[A]

Oh, sing the logo. Remind. Yeah, I've seen this game.

[B]

You see the logo, then you know.

[A]

I might have played this game.

[B]

If you see the COVID you're like, oh, yeah.

[A]

When you see the COVID you're like, yes, baseball. Now I remember at number eight, we got EA Sports College Football 25.

[B]

Well, you said that it was made a couple months ago, a couple weeks ago, so yeah, of course. Yeah, it has to be on there. It was either this or 14.

[A]

And yeah, this would have been my guess. Also, isn't it 24? It wasn't an EA. Wasn't it college football 24? Or is it 25 because then it's.

[B]

25 because then they're going to come out with one this year that's 26.

[A]

But didn't they put out in the summer? They put it in.

[B]

Well, they're putting them all out. Like this next one will be out in the summer, but it will be called 26.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Football. College football starts in like September.

[A]

Oh, so it's like the next season.

[B]

I got like college football already ended just a couple days ago. Okay, so like, it technically, football season ends before the new year. Really?

[A]

Turns out that makes sense. And like, to people in Chad, they're like, it's always named the same year. I guess in my mind, sports games always come out in the fall. So it's close enough to the next year to where I'm like, oh, that's why you name it the next year. So that like, you're not immediately dating yourself. But for it to come out. Like, it's in the way that MLB the show always comes out in spring. But like this MLB the show is going to be 25, right?

[B]

Oh, I don't know about that.

[A]

Like, isn't it always this mv, the show is always the same year, I think, unless I'm wrong about that too. Same with WWE. Awesome. Crazy.

[B]

I think we just had 25.

[A]

I'm getting into semantics. That don't matter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't matter at all. Number seven. Yeah. I mean, people in the chat are saying that I'm right about that.

[B]

Okay. Damn.

[A]

So I think just because we're all.

[B]

Off on the years is right just because.

[A]

Yeah. It came out in the middle like it came out in July. So I would have thought that it would have been the same year, but I guess says they just changed it, which sounds crazy for them to have been doing a different thing and then changed it. Wait, who just changed it? I don't know. He just said they just changed it.

[B]

What are you talking about?

[A]

Kevin sounded bewildered. First of all, Kevin, you can't be that. You can't be bewildered. We don't know who they is. Yeah, no, it's the. What were you just talking about? NBA 2K. What's he laughing at?

[B]

You know who it is.

[A]

NBA 2K. Right, that's. I think that's what he's saying. They just changed. How they did that. Nobody brought up. What are you just talking about? It was.

[B]

He's talking about baseball.

[A]

We were talking about baseball, but we were also talking about college football. Yeah, but then you started talking about basketball, didn't you, at the end and you were saying. But that's every. That's always the same year. No, if that. Basketball is always the next year.

[B]

Wing fan says NBA, NHL, and Madden are all a year ahead.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

Now we know.

[A]

Now. Now we know.

[B]

Okay, now we know.

[A]

Listen, it all made sense to me as I was saying.

[B]

Kevin, blow the whistle, somebody.

[A]

I wish I had it.

[B]

Blow the whistle. Give us another one.

[A]

All right, that was number eight and number seven, we got Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

[B]

Wow. I mean. Yeah, you got to put respect on it.

[A]

You got to put respect on it. Again, I. I like all the entries on this list. It's just that the ordering feels weird.

[B]

The ordering feels weird. It's a tight list with 25, with so many sports titles. Especially because we're not even getting the yearly sports titles. We're just giving the titles. There's so many.

[A]

Yeah. One question. Does Punch out deserve to be higher or lower on the list than Wii Sports, in your opinion? I think we. I feel like we. I think I'll put Wii Sports above, Punch out below. I'll put it like higher, as in like, I'll put it. I don't know where you're saying you put it. What I'm saying is we'll punch out in like the 20s maybe, or like in like lower that's what I'm saying. Flip them, right? Yeah, I'll flip them. Yeah, me too. Me too. Okay. Yeah. Okay. At number six. Oh, number six. I think all the things I'm saying are making sense. I don't know. At number six, we got backyard baseball. Wow.

[B]

Called it. Wow.

[A]

That's high.

[B]

That's very high. High. That's high.

[A]

That's extremely.

[B]

That should probably be in a 10 plus range over there. That's high, but good for them. But you know why you're riding the high of its re release? Because you wrote this a couple weeks ago, so it's on your mind.

[A]

You think they're. You think they were like, oh, everybody's playing backyard baseball right now. Well, no, you gotta ride like, oh.

[B]

Backyard sports is back. Like they're. They're riding that of like, oh, backyard sports is back. I forgot how special that was, how much people love it. Yeah, That's a top 10 sports game where you and I would be like, hey, it's a great sports game. It's 10 through 20 range.

[A]

It's 20 through 25 probably, man. Like, this is. I love backyard sports, right? Like, I love backyard soccer in particular, but I don't think any backyard sports deserve to be above NBA Street Volume 2 or Wii Sports or like any of the games that are in our.

[B]

20 to 25 chat right now with my melon heads. If you're a melon head sponsor out there, give me some melon heads in the chat right now. Give me two times for the melon.

[A]

Heads, two times for the SSX. Tricky is number one or number 20? 21.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

How do we got backyard baseball here?

[B]

I agree.

[A]

At number one. Number six above. Punch out.

[B]

Come on now.

[A]

We've gone off the rails. We've gone off the rails.

[B]

Come on, now.

[A]

At number five, we're in the top five. Now at number five, we got NBA Jam.

[B]

NBA Jam.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This makes sense.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This makes sense.

[B]

I don't know where we're going.

[A]

I don't know either.

[B]

I don't know what's in the top four. I've lost track of where we're at and where we're going because now NBA Jam is here. We're in the top five, and there's still so many sports titles on my mind that I'm like, oh, what do they really have up their sleeve?

[A]

Okay. Interesting that this is an interesting article because they put the Wii NBA Jam in, like the. In the video.

[B]

Yeah, I don't love the video. We're currently Seeing because it's not the NBA Jam that's supposed to be there, but I think, you know, you just.

[A]

You know what? Actually, no, that now I'm looking at this right. Again, this is very fascinating because then they list. They say NBA Jam, the release date 1993. So you know, they're talking about the original, which they should be. But then they list consoles and they list like every console known to me.

[B]

It's the franchise.

[A]

So they're just saying the franchise, not the Wii. Oh, wait, no, there it is. Yeah, Disregard. Weird because this one also did come out to like Xbox360 and stuff, right?

[B]

I mean, Jam. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't know why I associate it with the Wii, but it's an odd.

[B]

One of like, like we're going franchises with some of these. Or maybe just the write up is just saying what it was on, but it feels like. And then we got Tony Hawk where it's like, oh, Tony Hawk gets two.

[A]

Tony Hawk gets two.

[B]

Yeah, gets two.

[A]

Again, like kind of.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's tough because on one hand again, I like all the entries. Yeah, you're making a lot of good entries.

[B]

I like them all.

[A]

All these games should be on the list. It's just. Yeah. How you're going about like ordering them and yes, some of them, it feel like franchises. But so other than. Yeah, you got Tony Hawk one and two. I don't know, man.

[B]

Next one.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Top five.

[A]

Here we go at number four. You got FIFA 13.

[B]

FIFA 13.

[A]

This is. I think this is a good year. I don't remember this.

[B]

They're all good years.

[A]

They're all good. What's the latest FIFA 20? Oh my God. Yes. Well, latest FIFA probably would have been FIFA 23 FC, not 25. Okay. Yeah. So EFC 25 was latest game. So here's the FIFA 23, I believe was the latest one.

[B]

I think once you get past like the 2000, probably 10 marker. Yeah, FIFA's been fantastic.

[A]

2010 on. Oh my God, maybe even like nine, maybe earlier.

[B]

And like. Yeah, like the five or the six. 2006. But like pretty much you can just guarantee anywhere from 2010 onwards. Yes, FIFA is it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

FIFA's rocking. Yeah, I like it.

[A]

Yeah. 13, I feel like that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I remember playing FIFA 2010 and there was a time a few years ago where I went back and I think I picked up 2010 for some reason and played it. And like now it feels so dated. But at the time it felt incredible. But I think you could tell by. Yeah, around 13, it felt like it really modernized. Like 2010, 09, I want to say, brought it forward. But 13, I think, felt like, oh, this actually has some, like, depth in how I move. And like it really is mattering how I'm moving that stick. And like, like, yeah, like 13 added a level of control and depth to it.

[B]

Oh, my God. When they really went all out and you could really do different moves with the ball and your player, you could. You're aiming at the net, like, really precise. It was impressive.

[A]

Really impressive.

[B]

I mean, you're looking at a Gibroni who bought a lot of sports games on his PS Vita. That's how much I love sports games. I was buying mlb, the show, FIFA, Madden. These are games that they were telling you not to buy and I was buying.

[A]

You were doing.

[B]

Buying them.

[A]

Yeah, this brings me back.

[B]

Yeah, I still have them.

[A]

No, no, that's. Yeah, sure. That's not the question.

[B]

Did you play? Oh, of course, of course. Because FIFA, you were able to aim at the goal with the back touch screen. So you would press where you wanted to shoot at the goal with the back touch screen.

[A]

I love that. Just look at how like they're like, for the defender, how like, you know, their hands are on the attacker, they're trying to bring him back and all this stuff. Like, man, they added such depth to this game in this era.

[B]

You want to know my toxic trait was that every year I want to play FIFA, but I want to play ultimate team and just spend countless amounts of money on cards.

[A]

Don't do it.

[B]

And do weekend leagues and stuff like that.

[A]

I do it.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

It's too time consuming.

[B]

You can't do it.

[A]

And number three, we got Madden NFL 2005. I think that's the exact one that I wrote down. Is that truck stick, man, or that?

[B]

That truck? Yeah, look at that.

[A]

Boom. Take him out, man.

[B]

2005.

[A]

There's a time. I mean, this is the right Madden.

[B]

That's the one with Ray Lewis on the front truck stick, like he said. Yeah, okay. I mean, you can't go wrong with any of the Maddens in the early 2000s. Look at the highlights. Look at the intros to this. And like, so insane.

[A]

You had mentioned, like the cone of vision. They had that in this, I believe. Right.

[B]

A couple of them in the early days did. I think they did away with it, but I think Madden was doing some of that.

[A]

What they call it, they called it like, like, not quarterback view.

[B]

I think it was quarterback visioned.

[A]

Quarterback vision. Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Remember when you used to make a player and you'd actually, like, tell what your mom and dad were that would then mess with the genetics of who you were?

[A]

That's awesome, dude.

[B]

They had some crazy back in the day. Gotta love this.

[A]

I just remember being in the church youth group and they had four TVs and they had consoles, and they. Obviously it was all sports games because that's, you know, those weren't sinful. And so I'm just. I'm showing up every week playing Madden, you know, painful.

[B]

I'll tell you what, bro, I have some great stories.

[A]

No devil in there. We didn't bring no devil in the football.

[B]

You know, devil in the football. There's a lot of cte. We didn't bring up college football and how special that was because back in the day, you know, stomach. Mike played a lot of high school ball. Sophomore year, we had a new coach. They shook up. Couple coaches left, couple coaches went up. We had Coach Nick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fresh out of college, Washington State University. Played ball there. Guy was like 24 maximum. Hottest dude in Boulder, for sure. The coolest dude. Coach Nick was a. Was just a kid. He was having fun with us. We were all, what, 15? Turning 16. That's when we were at the peak of NCAA football all the time before practice. So we'd go to Will's house or Joe's house, play nothing but college football, then come to practice, right? And so we talk smack to Coach Nick of like, oh, man, we're nasty at college football. And Coach Nick looked at us and was like, if you think you got game, bring your Xbox. We'll play. If I win, y'all run all practice.

[A]

What's with all these views bets you're making your childhood. This is all sports bets on video games.

[B]

Coach Nick looked at me and goes, I just want you to know I'm a whoop your ass. I was like, coach Nick, the whole team is cheering for me. I got this, Coach. Coach Nick whooped my ass, okay? He knew things I didn't know how to do. He was the best man. Coach Nick.

[A]

All right, we're in the top two. I don't even know what this is. Top two. This is top two.

[B]

I told you there wouldn't be another NHL game. No love.

[A]

So before we go, before. Before we get there, what the is top two, right? I'm looking back at the list because we already got an NBA Street. We got NBA Jam, Tecmo ball. I mean, have we gotten an NBA 2K or NBA Live?

[B]

No.

[A]

So it's gonna be one of those.

[B]

We just got Madden.

[A]

It's probably gonna be K11. We got techno Bowl. We got blitz like you mentioned. We got. Yeah. We got college. We got backyard baseball. Did we get MV the show?

[B]

No, that's what my mind goes to, Emma. But we got MVP baseball and NBA. You'll probably do the NBA 2K with MJ where they started the storylines in the France 2K11 stuff. And then you'll. We might do MLB the show.

[A]

Yeah, actually, I think you're right. I think it's gonna be those two. Which one would it be? Barrett?

[B]

One of the recent. Within the time. Within the past five years. Right.

[A]

I mean, you. You could do that. I could see 18 because that's when they really started doing, like, the story stuff. Yeah. That's a tough one because it's like they started so strong and every kind of year since then has been so, like, iterative. That's a tough one. My mind goes to like 13, 14, when they really started to like, figure that shit out. So we're thinking MLB The show or NBA 2K11.

[B]

I think a solid picks for how this. This has been going. We haven't seen many Mario sports. We haven't seen any Olympic sports. The one Jam.

[A]

Yeah, we're not going to get those in top two. Those don't feel like top twos. The two things we just mentioned feel like top two video games.

[B]

Hit me with them.

[A]

All right. At number two, we got NBA 2K11. This is the Michael Jordan one like we were just talking about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this was beyond there again, like a landmark title for NBA 2K11. This killed NBA Live.

[B]

This definitely killed. This was the nail in the coffin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What was the year that NBA Live like was about to come out but then didn't come out? Was that 13 or was that I think 2014?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Somewhere in this window. But this is the end.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is when they started telling story moments with Michael Jordan and everybody else that you would see from the years moving forward. Yeah. This is it. This is the moment when NBA 2K became the juggernaut, man.

[A]

I just. I have so much nostalgia for playing this game.

[B]

I loved NBA Live so much more than this. The control, dude.

[A]

I mean, you want to talk about taking your. Your NC4 to school? I took my PS3 to church. This is back when I was still in, like, heavy and church. Take my PS3 to church all the time. We were just playing either FIFA or playing NBA 2K.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's just a blast Every single time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Change that camera angle so we're looking. I forget what the name of the camera ang is, but it was like you're looking down the court.

[B]

Yes, Right.

[A]

And you have to rotate all the.

[B]

As all the professional.

[A]

That's the right. That's the right way to play. And let me tell you, man, plays are being called.

[B]

Of course. Don't forget your boy stuff. Like, Mike was commentating NBA 2K Pro Am hoops for, like, community tournaments, and then they made the NBA 2K league. I was watching kids who were spending hundreds upon thousands of hours a year, every single year, grinding this game. I was. I was talking to kids who. This was their life. Every day they'd come home, play six hours of NBA 2K with their friends grinding away to be the very best. They would know things about the stats and how you have to build your player that no one would ever understand and know hundreds of dollars being spent by them.

[A]

Wait, what. What did the Heat look like this year? Like, who was all. Who's playing for the Heat?

[B]

Jimmy Buckets is still on the Heat. Jimmy Butler is on the Heat. You have. Tyler Hero is on the heats in 2K11. Oh, no. 2K11. My apologies. Oh, when did LeBron go to 2K?

[A]

Because I'm trying to think of, like, what the. What team I was using. Because if this is what I was thinking, then, like, LeBron was on the Heat, because I think it was. I was using him and I was using. I guess Dwyane Wade must have been on.

[B]

Dwayne Wade, of course. And yeah, 2010, 2011 season, they would have. You would have had LeBron.

[A]

Yeah, dude. I was fucking cooking with the Heat, bro. I was fucking cooking with the Heat that year.

[B]

I mean, yes, that's how you're supposed to do it. You also, of course, had Derrick Rose on the Bulls. Everybody loved playing with D. Rose. He was nasty. The Celtics, as we saw in that trailer, still must have had Rondo, maybe KG and Paul Pierce. The truth. And then, of course, you know, you just play as a team.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, Diane is in chat, says Heaton Lakers was off limits. Lol. During that year. You D Haslam shout out Blake Griffin, Kevin Garnett. What a year. What a year. Take us back. All right, we're down to number one, I guess right now our prediction is MLB the Show. We've not seen it yet. Yeah, I think it's got to be, right.

[B]

I think the best prediction right now is probably MLB the Show in the recent years or earlier. Like, Barrett said, because I just don't see us.

[A]

Pro Evolution Soccer.

[B]

Pro Evolution Soccer.

[A]

One of the two.

[B]

No love for Mario. I mean, this is your number one sports game.

[A]

You're not going to put a Mario. No, Mario Sports Game is the number one sports game of all time.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Maybe it's a racing game. Like, I don't know.

[B]

It's gonna.

[A]

It's gotta be something serious. It's gotta be MLB the Show or maybe Pro Evolution Soccer.

[B]

Okay, let's see it. Let's see it.

[A]

At number one, we got ESPN NFL 2K5.

[B]

Oh, that's crazy. Oh, that's wild.

[A]

I don't know what to make of this. I mean, Mike, could you tell me more about this?

[B]

This is when we were battling over like broadcasting licenses and so people really attach themselves onto the EA ESPN theme. The broadcasters on that. I think it was a time when Madden was like, oh, we're competing with others, that's not just us. So like it was definitely a very competent football sim. I don't know if it's my number one sports game of all time.

[A]

I will say Chad. Chad is popping off for it. It seems like Chat really likes this pick. The blurb reads. Back in 2005, EA Sports wasn't the only company producing official NFL games. In fact, many would argue that 2K sports is doing it better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

ESPN NFL 2K5 is still widely regarded as the best football game ever made for good reason. An official licensing deal with ESPN allowed for sports center cutscenes and commentary from Chris Berman. Players had accurate face scans and almost unheard of attention to detail. In the PS2 era of graphics, it felt much closer to what you'd watch on Sundays. This ability to play games from an in helmet first person camera angle, while not perfect, was also unlike anything we had ever seen before. You could fill. You could fill the crib with unlockable minigames and Carmen Electra challenged you to games for prizes. The whole thing. This sounds insane. Oh, the whole thing was over the top nonsense in the best way possible. All the extras aside, the game was just a fun football simulation. Oh, and it was only $20.

[B]

Check that out.

[A]

That sounds insane. Okay, I get it.

[B]

This one had to on the front. And if you watch the recent Madden doc that they put up on prime video that I talked about a while back, they actually have moments of like, oh, this team is about to eat our lunch. What are we gonna do? So yeah, shout out. This was definitely it. I never played this. I was always a Madden kid at this Time. But I do remember this being on front of store shelves everywhere for sure.

[A]

Wow. All right, so that's your top 25.

[B]

You know what? And we finish number one. Not that bad.

[A]

Number one seems like a good pick. It seems like a good pick. And they really justified. Justified it there in the blurb.

[B]

I think you missed a couple of sports games that you could have put on this list.

[A]

I mean, okay.

[B]

Oh, yeah, there was mvp.

[A]

MVP Bear was asking about baseball.

[B]

Yes, you missed out on MVP baseball.

[A]

All right, is it the. Which is a thumbs up or is this list a thumbs down?

[B]

Bless. Those are our two options.

[A]

Those are our two options. Is it the.

[B]

Unfortunately. Hey, here's the deal. It's not the. It's not. It's here. But I'm gonna go with. It's. Unfortunately, it's either the shit or there's no in between. I would give you this because you were pretty good. You're shit.

[A]

This is a really tough one. You're missing one because I'm with you. That, like, I, I think it's in the middle. Like, I don't think it's a bad list, but I don't think it's a great list. But if I have to go one or the other, go one or the other, I'm giving it a thumbs up. I'm gonna say it's the.

[B]

It's the.

[A]

Because I think all the right entries were there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you laid out these games in an unranked list and just went, these are the best 25 sports games. I read this list and I go, I get it. Okay, ordering. I, again, I take some issue with some of the ordering. But overall, like, I think, like, if, like, if we had the writers on this list sitting with us and like, arguing these picks for, like, why they're the places they are, I think that they could be able to. I think they'd be able to do it and have me go, all right, I get it, right? Like, I disagree with a lot of the placement here, but I can understand how you get to, like to some of these places. And it seems like where it matters. I think they hit like a lot on a lot of good things where it matters. I believe in, like, like the argument here for the number one game being ESPN NFL 2K5, right. NBA 2K11 being number two right there. I like it, right? They have Madden, Madden NFL 2005, which is the right pick for a Madden. Right? I like that. And then as you go, right? FIFA 13 is the right pick. Like, it is the Thing that we talk about as far as it seems like you push a lot of those Arcadey. More like, you know, Lucy. Lucy Goosey is not the right way to put it, but it's fun sports games down to the bottom in lieu of trying to uplift the more serious, like hardcore stuff to the top.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I, I understand that decision in a list like this.

[B]

I like that Bliss. I. I like everything you're bringing. I give it because it is missing a number. It gave two Tony Hawk pro skater titles room on that list. That probably should have had room for other better titles on that list. I am surprised, you know, with some of the polls. I, I like you said, there's, it's. There's great games.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's tough to put 25 down, but I think you missed some of them. Def Jam should have been on this list 100%. One of the best sports games ever. One of the most impactful sports games gotta be on that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

MLB the show gotta be on that list. Another hockey game has to be on that list.

[A]

How many wrestling games have been on this list? 1.

[B]

Which one?

[A]

Here comes the pain. Okay, fair. Okay. All right. You heard it from Greg Miller likes that. Ladies and gentlemen, mbs. Let us know in the comments below. Do you think this list is the shit or do you think this list is shit? We want to know. Thank you guys so, so much for hanging out. Let me check Super Chats real quick because I know y'all were writing in as we were going. Let me shout out some of you guys. Dean8149 says MVP baseball 2005 is my goat. Baseball game. Swart by first name says FIFA 03. Should have been on the list last FIFA. You could slide, tackle the goalkeeper. Just standing there. Edgar David's looking like a G on the COVID as well. Autonomic writes in and says, coach Mike, those streams are so good. Too much. Too much fun. Shout out KP the Goat.

[B]

KP Keisha Phillips.

[A]

And then I think that's actually it. That's it. That's it for Super Chats.

[B]

Don't forget, get this video up to 20, 000 views and we'll do some more.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Don't let this one fall.

[A]

Make or break.

[B]

Don't let this fly.

[A]

This is make or break. Because the other ones, obviously, you know, every game of the year ranked in top 25 or no, top 50 games of all time. Sure those are going to get views. Are you gonna get us the views when we're out here just talking about sports games. This is me and Mike just chilling. Having a this is good though again start get us to that 20k point and me and Mike, we break off and we just become the list guys for the rest of our lives.

[B]

List people.

[A]

The list guys until next time. I've been blessing. That's been Mike. It's been our pleasure to serve you.

[B]

See ya.

[A]

Just immediately gets up.