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Donkey Kong Bananza Nintendo Direct Review - Kinda Funny Gamescast 06.18.25
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Tim Gettys
Foreign what's up? And welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Wednesday, June 18, 2025. Of course, I'm your host, Tim Gettys. I'm joined today by Blessing. Adio. Yay, Junior.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Good day, Tim.
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Tim Gettys
The big daddy himself. He's a little chilly. A little chilly. Chili Boy, Greg Miller.
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Greg Miller
They call me Chili Willy.
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Tim Gettys
And putting the jacket on Greg Miller, it was the one and only nitro rifle Andy Cortez.
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Andy Cortez
Hello.
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Tim Gettys
How you doing, Andy?
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Andy Cortez
Oh, great.
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Tim Gettys
Sorry, sorry. Laptop. This is the Kind of Funny Games cast, everyone. Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics. Sometimes our thoughts on showcases about video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, please support us with the Kind of Funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple podcasts to get all of our shows ad free. Watch us record them live and you got a daily exclusive show for a chance to be part of the show. Submit your thoughts, thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. I see a bunch of y' all already writing in. Thank you so much for that. If you have any thoughts about Donkey Kong Bonanza, please super chat them in or just any general switch to questions y' all have for us to fill out the Gamescast episode today.
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Greg Miller
Hungry?
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Tim Gettys
You're hungry?
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Greg Miller
No. I heard these tummies growling over here. Meow.
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Tim Gettys
A little housekeeping for you. We have something very, very, very exciting that I don't think we've even really teased yet. No, but you're about to get teased for the very first time right now.
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Roger
We wanted to give you a gift. It is all of our favorite pieces of media and we wrote a little notes. I think you would really like that artist. She's an incredible singer.
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Andy Cortez
You would really enjoy her.
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Roger
Caroline Olacek. Caroline Polacek, thank you so much for joining us on the Kinda Funny Gamescast. I'm Roger. Nice to meet you, Roger.
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Tim Gettys
It's so nice to meet you too. I know you from Twitter at this point, so it's nice to meet you face to face. It actually happened, everyone. Last year, Roger gave Carolyn Policheck's album to Hideo Kojima and he loved it so much that he had her create the title song for Death Stranding 2 on the beach. And now Roger sits down for a one on one interview with Carolyn for tomorrow's Gamescast. Get Hype. Roger, congratulations.
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Roger
Very exciting, everybody. I'm excited for you guys to see it. We recorded a few weeks ago and yeah, it's gonna be a really good one. And we also have a Greg way going up tomorrow about how this all happened. So get hype, everybody.
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Tim Gettys
And time.
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Greg Miller
Congratulations, Roger. Great stuff.
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Tim Gettys
And then of course we have our death stranding to review coming up Monday. Monday. So get excited for that as well. Remember, we are an 11 person business. All about live talk shows. After this. We're doing Games Daily, a little bit of a Switcheroo because of the Nintendo Direct today it's going to be covering all of the WB games. Restructuring. Wild stuff. Rumors abound.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh yeah, you know what to talk about.
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Tim Gettys
Then after Games Daily, it's going to be Uncharted 2. Continuing our naughty Dog week with Barrett and Greg Miller. All leading in of course to Barrett's new video essay coming out about Naughty Dog and him replaying all of their games this Friday. If you're kind of funny, Member today's Greg Ways. Greg talking about pride. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney Twining. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with the topic of the show. Donkey Kong Bonanza. We just saw the in depth direct, one of the, I would say infrequent but oh for sure frequent, you know, fairly, fairly common over the years. Solo game directs from Nintendo. Right. Of the deeper dives of. Let's get into it. Don't expect announcements. Don't expect all this other stuff. I will say right there. Even though I wasn't expecting announcements, I am a little surprised that Donkey Kong 64 coming to NSO and more specifically Donkey Kong updates for Mario Kart weren't announced here. There's always still time. There's a lot of time. But I did think that that would have been like a. You have a month away from this. Like do a couple cool things on your Nintendo Switch too.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Listen, the world doesn't look as favorably upon Donkey Kong 64. So I think the Nintendo state of mind is let's not ruin people's appetite before we get to Bonanza.
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Tim Gettys
All right, that's fair. But. But even then, even though I love seeing Dixie, it's like for how limit seeing a baby Pauline. I was thinking it's weird that Mario Kart doesn't have a baby Pauline.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, that's weird.
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Greg Miller
She's not really a baby. You're right, she's odd.
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Tim Gettys
She's a rod person.
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Greg Miller
She's a shapeshifter. I feel in some sense we're going to Figure this out when we get in there.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Bracelet.
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Andy Cortez
It's like the outsider, that HBO show, you know, Exactly. Like she's some sort of, like, nefarious creature. Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah. So top level. I want to start off here because Bless and I got to. To play this game in New York, and I. I feel like we kind of differed a little bit in terms of our experience. I. From. My gameplay was a little let down by this. It felt lesser than when you're expecting a 3D Mario from the Odyssey team. And then you get this. I'm excited. I love Donkey Kong. I'm one of the bigger fans of the Donkey Kong games, but seeing it and playing it, it felt a little bit mindless. Like, the controls are interesting and fun, where, uh, it's the top left and down face buttons correlate to are you punching up left or down or side or down, which is cool. Definitely fun. But into the 20 minutes we played it already, to me, got a little samey and a little bit like, I am just kind of button mashing my way through this. And it just felt geared more towards children, which is not a problem. These are Nintendo games we're talking about. But as somebody that really cares about, like, the challenge and all that other stuff, collectibles, I was a little concerned watching this. It doesn't fully assuage my fears, but there's a lot going on when it comes to the challenge courses and even just, like, the abilities and the skill trees and all that stuff. I'm like, all right, cool. Maybe I'm still obviously keeping an open mind to this one, but I. I did like the showing quite a bit. What did you think? Bless.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, I really enjoyed the showing. It's funny, I was thinking about this this morning before we got to watch this of, like, you know, I had, like, a little bit of feeling of nostalgia slash sadness as I thought back to what Donkey Kong meant to me. Like, as a kid, where I'm playing DK64 and I'm thinking about, like, what is classic Donkey Kong to me, along with, like, you know, the original Donkey Arcade game, which was playable in DK64. So I fell in love with it through that way. But, like, you know, I think there was a sense of thinking forward to what we were getting in this direct and also thinking about how, man, that Donkey Kong is done. Like, we're getting a brand new kind of interpretation of what Donkey Kong is for Nintendo going forward. We have the redesigns, we have a new 3D platformer, and all this is exciting. I Think the thing that excited me the most about the thought was thinking about my nephews and thinking about how they're going to get to experience Donkey Kong. And, like, this is the beginning for them. And I think that's the thing that I come out of this most excited for is like, oh, this is going to set the tone as far as what DK's feature is for the current generation of children. And as I'm seeing all the features, as I'm seeing all this, right, like, me and Barry will talk all the time about how much we love DK64, but for me, I'm like. I look at this and I'm like, all right, this is a DK3D platformer that is, as I'm watching this, going to be fantastic, right? It's not going to have, like, the weird thing of, like, oh, Yeah, I love DK64, but there's too many collectibles or too many switching between Kongs and all the issues that come with that game, right? Like, I look at this and I'm like, wow, you have a fun story set up here where you have DK and Pauline. Like, you know, sorry, Odd Rock, AKA Pauline, you know, nefarious creature. We don't know what's going on there, right?
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Greg Miller
Even when Supergirl was Supergirl, she was still the Matrix in post crisis. So that's what we' dealing with here, I think.
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Tim Gettys
Is this a post crisis donkey?
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Greg Miller
This is a post crisis Donkey Kong.
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Andy Cortez
Heavily influenced, I heard, but I would.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Assume that she started off as Pauline and then turned into Odd Rock.
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Greg Miller
No, no, no. I think Odd Rock saw Pauline in the multiverse and cute and just like, again, Matrix Supergirl, post crisis before they actually did in Erdie's car as well.
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Andy Cortez
Of course.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I don't know what any of those words mean.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, I don't either, dude.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
But you have this, you know, fun, like, you know, buddy story between the two. You have so many. So much of the musical tracks that helped define my childhood present in the game, remixed in ways that bring me back to Mario Kart World, where I'm like, yo, this is giving me the Mario Kart World soundtrack of Donkey Kong. Like, oh, we're cooking, like, then we're. We're winning.
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Tim Gettys
And we heard, like, six or seven different Donkey Kong songs there. So I'm pretty sure, yeah, we're about to get a lot more. All the heavy hitters.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
You had that stuff, you have, like, I think, a vastness to this game, too, that we're seeing here that is already beyond the scope of what I was expecting. Because coming out of the Nintendo Switch to Reveal for DK Bonanza, I think I was contextualizing it more along the lines of a Kirby in the forgotten land in terms of, like, vastness and scope versus a Mario Odyssey, which I see is just a much more bigger and mainline thing. The more we see out of this, the more I'm like, oh, this might lean more toward the Mario Odyssey side as far as scope and size and all that stuff, which is exciting, but also I think is a big challenge to make this kind of platformer appealing on that level. And I'm excited to see if they're able to live up to that. Because this isn't Mario Odyssey in the sense of, you know, you talk about getting your hands on the controller at the Nintendo Switch 2 event. I think one of the big things with a platformer from this team is the game feel. And with Mario, it is all about the movement. It's all about throwing cappy, diving off of Cappy, like bouncing up and like how good it feels to control the character. In this game, you don't have that. Like, it is. I think there's a different focus as far as the way they want you to play this game. Like, as I'm watching the. The gameplay right now, right, it is very much more tinkery as far as, like, what you're doing with the environment, what you're doing as far as like destruction, what you're doing as far as like, like the, the. The collectathon aspects and like, kind of like digging into the world. Like literally digging into the world. And I think that is going to be an interesting thing to see how that vibes with people. And if that turns people off that might want a straight up Mario Odyssey. Like, I just want the controls to feel experience.
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Greg Miller
But my question for that, because I watched this and as somebody who loved Mario Odyssey and really pushed hard that year for it to be game of the year. As much as I love Breath of the Wild, I look at this and see so much Odyssey in it. But also don't get turned off by the idea that it's not going to be as precise. Even when we were talking about the dodge jump or whatever, you were air dash when it popped up, like, I feel like he's going to have a movement.
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Tim Gettys
Do you?
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Greg Miller
When you two played it, did you have access to all of these moves? Were these things that you didn't get to see, or were you surprised by the air jumps and the toss the platform and double Jump off of it, that kind of thing.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, I think part of it is that we didn't have enough time to really explore the movement options. But also, like, there was definitely things like the chunk surf or whatever it's called, where he was, like, serving on top of one of the big rocks. Like, we had that right. And like, we're digging through and all this stuff.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, I mean, we see a lot of this in the presentation we saw, but even in what we played, like, I do feel that the. The Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom in very different ways. Kind of foundations of. Of not just gameplay, but, like, the systems of that game are in this. Of obviously being able to climb anything, but without a stamina meter, but also being able to break anything. And, like, the way the physics all kind of, like, play together seems to be such a big part of this game. So it kind of reminds me of Breath of the Wild in the sense of, like, you start the game off and you have all your abilities already, and it's like you have your tools. It's a matter of using them. This game, I mean, we didn't get all of the things they showed, but it did feel like, oh, yeah, we could pull the thing out of the ground, surf on it, throw it at something else, stick it on something. Like. Yeah, there was a lot of stuff at our disposal immediately.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
And I, I. You know, when we played this at the Swiss you event, we had like, like Nintendo representatives with us to, like, help guide us or whatever. And like, there's so many times where they had to tell me, like, oh, yeah, and if you do this, and if. Or I would try to, like, break a piece of concrete out the ground, and I kept pressing the button that would help me, like, you know, pull dirt. And I kept trying to do it to concrete, and it wasn't working. And I was like, am I doing something wrong? And he was like, oh, it's concrete, so you're gonna have to hold it longer. And I was like, oh, okay. And, like, hold in, like, it. It is a big, like, pull and then, like, pull it out the ground kind of thing. I think in those ways it's just less intuitive, but more, I think, appealing to. If you are the kind of person that likes to, like, tinker and like, you know, it reminds me world tears in that sense, I guess, in terms of, like, the way that they want you to think about the game and think about, like, putting things together and the different types of surfaces and stuff. And it, it almost feels like More of a thinking man's platformer in that sense, which excites me. But yeah, like, overall, I'm excited about this. So much fan service here as far as music world, all that stuff, and then also RPG elements kind of caught me off guard. But I'm open to it. Right. That stuff seems fun. This game just seems jam packed in a way that I'm looking forward to. So I really like this direct.
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Tim Gettys
Greg.
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Greg Miller
Yeah, I have no affinity for Donkey Kong. Of course, being a Sega kid and joining with the N64 era, even Kong 64 wasn't my jam. I think this looks incredible. This looks a game I won't be able to put down. It looks like one of those. All right, cool. What do you want to do today? Do you want to go find the bananas? Do you want to take on the boss? Do you want to go into these little mini games they have there? And the story seems interesting enough, right? I think more than anything, it is the idea that as Blessing just alluded to, you see that skill tree pop up and I am like, oh, man, I'm going to immediately invest in the sonar because I know I'm going to want to get the bananas to do xy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Beyond that, the boss fights look great. As Andy called out in the reaction. The world looks gorgeous. And it looks. I guess the biggest thing is it looks fun to explore. It looks. As I watch this, it reminds me of how much I loved Odyssey and how I put Odyssey down and never came back to it. And that is a regret to me. Right. In terms of how much I loved that game. But to look here and be like, oh, man, like, I'm gonna get the same vibe out of this, of going through changing my clothes, you know, building the loadout, challenging myself to get those little things on the side path right there. He didn't get. I'm looking forward to this because it does seem like a game I'm gonna get lost in isn't the right word, but I feel like it'll eat up a lot of time where it will be that I come home and, hey, Ben, you want to play some Donkey Kong? And he on that second controller to control Odd Rock, AKA Fake Pauline. Yeah, I refuse to admit that she's Pauline until I have some conversation Foleying. Exactly. But I think there'll be that. I can see plane rides being all right. Cool. Let's go through and try to get some of these bananas. Let's go shoot through and try to get these things. I've missed I'm looking forward to finding the secrets of it, the smashes of it and everything else. I thought that looked incredibly impressive. I'm way more hyped for that than I was before this, Andy.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, I would say I'm. I'm more excited than I was forward. I don't think it's gonna be something that I'm like, holy, we're two weeks away from. Oh, my God, we're a week away from it. But it's something I'm definitely gonna want to mess around with. And a lot of it just comes down to the tinkering aspect and how. How fun and silly all of that, all the interactions look like. I just, I. I love in really any survival game when you can dig into the terrain and get the really, really nice sort of. Oh, it just makes your brain feel good and fuzzy when you hear the feedback of the. The gems coming towards you and breaking of the stones and all of that. It. It seems like I had mentioned it reminds me a lot of the. The sort of interaction with the environment that you have with. With Astrobot. And I don't mean the breaking of things. It's just like all of the little particles, all of the little objects kind of, you know, popping up. Whenever you break a mountain and you see all the particles and. And objects on the ground, it just. It looks like a really, really fun time. Doesn't scream to me that this is going to be for, you know, if you were the hardcore Mario 3D player, you are going to be, you know, super into this. This just feels like it's kind of going for a little bit something different. And I. I really like that. I think it seems interesting enough to where I want to definitely give it a shot whenever it comes out, but I'm not, like, the most stoked for it. Mainly excited for a lot of the music callbacks, you know, because that's. I'd say the Donkey Kong Country Games were, you know, really massive parts of my childhood. So, yeah, I think it looks awesome.
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Greg Miller
That's fascinating for me because, like, yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I understand different opinions, but, like, for me, this is a. Holy shit. July 17 can't get here soon enough. Like, I want to play this one.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, we're one month out. Like. Like less than one month out, which is very exciting. I am. I mean, I'm an incentive guy, so I'm like, oh, man, I'm counting down the day.
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Andy Cortez
Oh, sure.
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Tim Gettys
To get my hands on this one.
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Andy Cortez
I would say, if anything, I am really excited to see a Switch to exclusive game. You know, like Mario Kart is, is fun and I have definitely been playing that more than I was around when lot when launch came out because I was so busy with Night Rain and lies of P. But you're finally getting.
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Greg Miller
The single player switch to let's invest.
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Andy Cortez
A lot of time and I want to see it on that screen and I want to see it plugged into the die. Just it's a game that I'm stoked to see. Like, oh, this is what the hardware is doing now as opposed to an older title being updated, maybe run better or. I was telling bless how bummed out I was that, you know, Scarlet and Violet got the 60 frame per second push, but RCS is still capped at 30. I was like, oh, damn, that's a game I would have loved to have seen run a little bit better. So yeah, I'm. I'm pretty jazzed up to sort of to see this game whenever it does launch because it just looks like a lot of fun to run around. It doesn't seem like a game that if you have nothing to do that you're going to put down and be bored by it because of the tinkering nature of things. The way that I am when I'm sitting down at a table and I see a wad of paper and I start tearing it up and just, you know, it's sort of like that fidgety type of deal. It feels like it's going to be really satisfying. It's going to scratch that itch.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think coming off of Mario Kart World, I think before World got here, I had slightly less hype for this game because I thought World was going to give me all of like the open world collectathon, like that single player experience in the free roam mode. And then once we got World and realized like, oh, okay, it's just the P switches, which is fine, but like, not necessarily what I wanted out of this. I'm way. I have a way bigger appetite for this now. Like I. To what to your point, Andy? Like, I am kind of primed now to be. To what that like, you know, switch to current gen exclusive. Like, you know, collectathon that I know I'm gonna lose 20, 25, 30 hours to just collecting everything. I think they've positioned this well as far as like how. How they have the first party slate going.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, I'm really into the Pauline stuff. Like, I'm happy that like that was a reveal that they just got over with and it Wasn't like, oh, halfway through the game you get Pauline or whatever. It's. I like her being a character and them leaning into that. Obviously their Nintendo's giving Donkey Kong a huge push with his movie appearances and the theme park and all that stuff. But like the redesign and everything. Like let's give another franchise of Nintendo a chance to like be that top tier one of the big five.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, sounds like a WWE getting the push right now.
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Tim Gettys
But real talk like getting, getting that push and Pauline as well. Like I think it's cool seeing her start to appear in the sports games and cart and now getting this new iteration and like kind of like fleshing it out. And also it being a little girl I think is kind of cool like for this to be a kind of boy feeling game of like this big monkey breaking. But it's like, oh like it's about.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
A girl as a singer. Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
It's getting a lot of like frozen vibes as well. I just feel like this is like a very well marketed game to an audience that is going to absolutely adore this thing like boy girl. Otherwise we don't know what the.
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Andy Cortez
We don't know what Jenna the Rock is. So let's not.
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Tim Gettys
This Rock situation. I, I am a little bit like why are we over complicating this? I won't see her in the game. But like why?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Like I imagine because like her, she has like a little rock bracelet on her wrist which I assume is the thing that's turning her into the Rock. If I'm gonna dispute some of Greg's claims here. And I think she's a girl first.
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Greg Miller
And a rock second.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think she's a girl first in the Rock.
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Andy Cortez
It's like she's trying to infiltrate the Rock like tribe and I think it's.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Here's the thing, I played Jak and Daxter for the very first time yesterday.
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Greg Miller
The Precursor Legacy.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, the Precursor Legacy. And then that came on first time. For the very first time. Yeah. I've never picked it up before. Pretty cool game. It's like it's open and it's pretty cool. In that game. Did you know that Daxter was a human that turned into an otol?
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Greg Miller
Yes.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
In the game, in the series is kind of like trying to get him back.
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Greg Miller
Jokes about this. Yeah. For a long time.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Did you know that?
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Tim Gettys
Yeah.
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Barrett Courtney
Cuz he's like kind of point.
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Greg Miller
He's just kind of fine with it for a long time.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
You know, that's the whole point of the game.
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Greg Miller
Yeah.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Like I wonder if there's an element here where, where it is. We got to get this bracelet off of you, Pauline. Like, you keep turning into the rock like you're cursed. You keep turning into Dwayne Johnson and we got to keep you as Pauline. I, I, I could see it be maybe being something along those lines. What I will say of the Pauline stuff is assuming because they. Have they ever confirmed that this is the Mario Odyssey team?
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Tim Gettys
They still haven't, but it is very clear now, it's more clear than ever that it is that team.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I do appreciate how much they're keeping the continuity of. All right, Mario Odyssey going into DK Bonanza like, this feels very much like a prequel in that way of like, you got the same sort of Pauline, like, character model there. You have, like, this, like, world that feels like. Here's the thing, right? Going back, Tim, I remember on either occasion or gamescast, me and you were talking and I think it was you that gave the prediction of like, yo, this game's going to end with a little Italian plumber coming up, some, you know, structure and trying to save Pauline from you. Donkey Kong. I've never been more convinced in my life that that is going to happen and that's going to lead into the continuity.
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Tim Gettys
JB Bonificio says final stage takes place on a construction stage with an evil Italian plumber trying to steal Pollyanne. Yes, yes, I did say that. You did say that. The moment that the Pauline leaked, it's like, oh, my God, can you imagine? I, I am not sure they're gonna do well. Here's the thing. It's, it's, I'm of two minds here. Cranky's in this. And the timeline, Bless the timeline, it doesn't add up. But real talk more than anything, the timeline doesn't matter. These are just characters to Nintendo. They don't really actually give a stuff.
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Barrett Courtney
About Pauline being a child already, like, disrupts that whole, like, Cranky Kong was the original Donkey Kong.
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Tim Gettys
Exactly. Yeah.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Makes sense anymore.
- [22:13]
Tim Gettys
None of it makes sense. None of it matters.
- [22:15]
Greg Miller
A rock.
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Tim Gettys
And we're seeing these challenge courses that have, have the, that show the kind of old school Donkey Kong tower going on too. So are these like, in some, like, subspace or something? You know what I mean?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Like, they're references.
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Tim Gettys
Speaking of these dogs, I hope there's a ton of them and I'm so excited this is the time. Yeah. Like, loved how they looked. Obviously very 2D Donkey Kong country inspired. But going through the, the different worlds that we're familiar with, like, I Mean.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
This right here, CK64. You know what I mean? Like, that's a game that. When I talk about some of the complaints of that game, too many minigames is like one of the things, right. But like.
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Barrett Courtney
And none of them are really great.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. But it's also part of the identity, I think of Donkey Kong. So for them to have. Yeah, this, right. Like all the bramble glass, like, and.
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Tim Gettys
Then the minecart stages, like, they just seem to be pulling all the most important memorable things from Donkey Kong's history. Both the arcade game country and the. And also like some of the things we're seeing here. Like, clearly, this is the Mario Odyssey team. This is the Galaxy team. There's so much just fun flipping perspectives and trying weird different things that we rarely see in other games that have that much gameplay variety. But yeah, it's. And also all the transformations, like, there's. There's something about this. I said this in our first preview, but it almost feels less like a 3D Mario and it's more like a 3D Wario. The 3D, like the Wario Land games. And yes, it's Donkey Kong and it's different, but the level of platforming, what you're doing and how you're moving about the world, it's a bit more about attacks than it is about chunky.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
You're aggressive. Yeah, you're breaking through things.
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Andy Cortez
Those boss fights look so much fun. I'm so stoked to see exactly what the mechanics are. They just seemed like, okay, these, these enemies look like they're large enough that I want to take down with throwing the rocks at them, exposing the weakness, seeing what the patterns are. They just.
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Tim Gettys
I don't know.
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Andy Cortez
I just.
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Tim Gettys
It.
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Andy Cortez
It reminds me a lot of having fun with Kirby.
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Tim Gettys
The forgotten land boss fights. Very similar bosses.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, I love that.
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Tim Gettys
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I don't buy it.
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Tim Gettys
You don't buy it?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I don't buy. I don't buy it until I get some official word. Yeah.
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Barrett Courtney
I mean, unless Mario comes out in the next year.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah.
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Barrett Courtney
Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
I mean, I will say this does seem like a. This does not seem to the scale that I would have expected the next game from that team from what we're seeing so far after the amount of time that we've had to wait. So the dream scenario for me is we get multiple projects and this is awesome. And I'm not even saying this is a small scale. I'm just saying it is not. This doesn't look like the. Holy crap.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
We haven't seen a game from that team since 2017, officially.
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Tim Gettys
I mean we got Bowser's Fury, but like, you know, that. That feels like a smaller. I expect this to be much bigger than that game.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Barrett Courtney
Really quick before you get into super chat, something I saw on social media as well is just like the deep cuts of like this nice canceled Donkey Kong Racing game.
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Tim Gettys
That's right.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Don't get me started, man. About Don Kong Racing. But we could have had Xbox. Had to go buy Rare. Ruin everything up. Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
But I love this. We're getting Dixie, dude. That's awesome. That's really, really cool.
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Andy Cortez
Can you very happy about that bear. Can you rewind to the parts where we did see Diddy Kong and yeah, let me.
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Barrett Courtney
Let me find where they're they're sitting at like a table. Let me find out where it is.
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Andy Cortez
Thank you.
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Tim Gettys
Got a lot of super chats. Ricardo says Nintendo putting the donk and Donkey Kong. It's true.
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Andy Cortez
Oh yeah. That ass is real shaped.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
Ultra Hyper JDUB says I'm about 15 minutes behind, but I'm happy to get to watch this live with y' all. I'm in vacation this week and I don't usually get to listen till the night. You guys rock. Keep up the good work.
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Andy Cortez
Thank you very much. And think. Thank you all. For real. I think this all kind of started with the. Our number of delayed flights from the Xbox thing and then like reacting to something late. I think that's so sick that people want to watch us be enthused that.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
We can sleep in now.
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Tim Gettys
Very cool stuff. A lot of quests calling it now Game of the Year. I feel like that's where a lot of my hesitations, I guess, negativity comes from. Is like, from my experience with this, I'm gonna love this game. I just don't think this is going to be a 96 on Metacritic. No. You know, and like that. That's what I want from this team. So if me being let down, it's like only compared to some of the greatest games of all time. And also a 20 minute gameplay demo that I did.
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Greg Miller
How much did Mike spend on this game again? For Fantasy Critic?
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Barrett Courtney
A ridiculous amount.
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Tim Gettys
I love him. Is anyone getting Game of the Year vibes from this?
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Barrett Courtney
I think it's a contender for like the list.
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Tim Gettys
Yes. No, for sure.
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Barrett Courtney
I think It'll be high 80s, mid to high 80s.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I think it's.
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Greg Miller
I'm with that score right now in terms. I can't wait. Like this looks. I'm gonna play the shit out of this game. I can't wait.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, it's tough to say. I. I think for me it will be determined on just getting my hand on the controller. Right. Like, I think the thing that immediately strikes me as like a. Oh, it's not blowing my mind are the visuals. Like, I don't look at this game and I go, oh, this is unlike anything I've ever seen before. But I also just, just don't have that expectation for a Donkey Kong game on the Switch two. But it is the switch number two. You know what I mean? There should be a uplifted expectation for visuals and graphical fidelity. But also I know that that's not what this game wants to do. I know this game wants to push the tech as far as destructibility and textures and stuff like that. Right. Or like I should say textures of like the breakable surfaces, not textures as far as the textures. Looking amazing.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah. At one point he's holding up one of the rocks and I was like, man, that looks like a real low ass, real low res sort of looking asset with the lighting. But, but you know, you gotta make some, you gotta make some concessions if everything's gonna be like super destructible. I totally see that.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
So I think that's what. If I'm watching a director, if I'm watching a trailer, that's one of the things that immediately doesn't make me go game of the year. But like, I think I could see it being one of those ones where once I get my hand on the controller and I get through the game being like, wow, like that was a feast of content. Like, wow, this really brought me back to childhood. Or this really uplifted this character in this world for me. I'll say it's a contender for being a contender.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah. And I, you know, one thing that like I feel might be divisive, but I'm actually really into the voice acting and like the weird story bits. Like we don't really get story from the Mario side of the Nintendo games and them even trying at all. Like, I feel like that could go a long way with these enemies that, you know, seeing the enemies, you're like, okay, cool. It's the Odyssey team that made this. But they look way more interesting and cool than the, the Odyssey villains.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
And if they're actually.
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Greg Miller
I don't even remember Odyssey villains.
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Tim Gettys
There are a bunch of bunnies. A bunch of family of bunnies.
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Greg Miller
Okay.
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Barrett Courtney
They were the wedding planners.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
At some point we got to talk about Mario and Bunnies because I feel like there's like a weirdness as far.
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Tim Gettys
As like how you're chasing one. Yeah.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Like, I feel like bunnies fit into that world in a weird way.
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Tim Gettys
Oh yeah. And even in galaxies, like running around a little.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah.
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Greg Miller
Rabbits.
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Tim Gettys
Weird. But yeah, I feel like there's a chance for. If the. I don't know if we had evidence of the. The villains being voice acted as well, but Pauline seemed to be talking a lot to somebody. So it could be cool to like actually get some level of like more movie like feel from these Nintendo characters as opposed to a Mario that just says let's it go.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Andy Cortez
This dude in the middle reminds me so much of the. One of the bad guys in season two of Arcane. Little like kind of rat looking dude.
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Tim Gettys
Rat owl. Thingy.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah. And then. Yeah, like, it just reminds me so much of that, that design also Mojo Jojo as well.
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Barrett Courtney
Yeah. I will say they, they have subtitles, but whenever she speaks, she doesn't. And so I imagine they'll. They'll do like DK speak or they're just kind of making noises and we get the subtitle interpretations.
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Andy Cortez
Oh, yeah. When she's singing and he just.
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Tim Gettys
Dan says, I thought we may get a Diddy Dixie announcement for Mario Kart World in this, but at least we're definitely getting some good skins for DK and Pauline. Yeah. One weird thing about Mario Kart World is DK and Pauline, but DK is the more crazy one. Only have like one costume. Like one extra unlock costume.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, so you can get DLC after this game comes out.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
Kebab says finally TLU reboot I can love. Yep. Oh, the Last of Us man and his girl.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, I see BK2.
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Tim Gettys
Sorry. BG2 580 says shout out to Nintendo getting the Universal Studios bands working as Amiibos. Excited for the E rated last of us DK's here. That is awesome. I. I saw that and assumed as much. But like the theme park wristbands, you could actually use, like, to get this.
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Greg Miller
I was wondering what those were. I knew the Amiibos, but I didn't recognize the wristwatches. That's cool, that's cool, that's cool.
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Tim Gettys
And we just saw it for a second. Like, the big Kong, like the amiibos give you, like, the Kong letters. Like, there's so much love for all the old DK stuff here. That's like, I. That's what I'm most excited about. It's like, how deep are we getting into this?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, I think that's the work that you. That, that you probably should have been doing for a long while as Nintendo. As far as what Donkey Kong means to the business, like, building out that lore, building out that, like, excitement for all things dk. This comes back to the top five conversation of like, yo, is. Is DK one of them ones? If it is, like, you gotta treat it like it is and give it the love so that you can have kids and future generations attach themselves to it. Think about Sticker Brush Symphony and how good of a song that was. Look at those Kong letters and be like, oh, man, that gives me a feeling on the inside. You know what I mean?
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Tim Gettys
Totally. Ollie says, birthday tax. I love that I got this gift from Nintendo and from all of you. I'm so hyped. For this game and can't wait for your review. Sending you some sweet, nasty love from Germany. Happy birthday, Ollie. Thank you for hanging out with us. Living Legend says I was on the fence initially, but after. After the direct, I'm very excited. Growing up in the 90s, I never liked Mario or Zelda. I was a Sega kid. But I love Donkey Kong. CJ Split says Sticker Brush Symphony remix with lyrics and credits. If they give Sticker Brush lyrics, they're gonna do it. You're right. They're gonna fucking do it.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I mean, that is game of the year. I'm sorry. That is game of the year.
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Tim Gettys
That's awesome.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Sorry. Blueprints.
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Tim Gettys
Colin Barry says, what's the. The ttp Mythic quest on building features. What's the time to play? So we get to them. Building features. Features.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Pretty cool.
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Tim Gettys
I mean, I mean we were already kind of doing it. I don't know where we were in the game though. We did still have the Rock, though. We didn't have Pauline.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, no, I think they dropped us. I think they would. I think that would have been the first game played segment that we picked up at the demo. I don't know what cutscenes were before that. Yeah, I'm gonna say you get a two minute cutscene.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, yeah. And then you're punching and then you're in your punching break and building. Kevin T says, my first game was the original DK country and I got a switch to. To play with my 3 year old with this being one of her first games. Full circle moments.
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Greg Miller
That's awesome.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, that's gonna be great. Yeah. Let's talk about that two player mode for a sec. Right?
- [34:30]
Greg Miller
Yeah, let's do it.
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Tim Gettys
It. It seems like a iteration on what we've seen from Nintendo a bunch of times from Galaxy to Odyssey, where it's not a full on. You're doing the same thing. It is kind of just. You're helping.
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Greg Miller
Yep. I'm excited to try it with Ben. I imagine though, I will end up being Odd Rock, you know what I mean? Like, I think he's gonna want to be Donkey Kong, which is fine. And that'll be great. And I want him to have that.
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Andy Cortez
Experience, but I sound fine. It sounds like you're kind of pushing back.
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Greg Miller
It sucks. I mean, I don't want to be Odd Rock, but I'm down to help him. And like again, Nintendo so good with the assist mode. Right. Like, I think it's gonna be fun to see Ben jump into this and he like, remember when we show. He watched us react to the Nintendo Switch 2 originally. It's when he saw this. This is what made him go, I love Donkey Kong. This is just the trailer for this, the reveal of Bonanza. He was like, I. Donkey Kong is like, Jen sent me a video of him talking about Donkey Kong. So he's gonna want to be Donkey Kong, which will probably be. Maybe this is where we both get our switches up and running. We both play the game on our own. But I think dropping in the assist mode for him and then if I'm going through and being Pauline for him and throwing stuff would be great. The share stuff's awesome and I'm a.
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Tim Gettys
Little confused about it. I definitely want some more info on this. Barrett, did you find anything? Because.
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Barrett Courtney
Oh, I have not.
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Tim Gettys
No. Yeah, totally, totally cool. But yeah, if anyone in the chat understands this, like, I would love to know more because I didn't. What's going on? How are you able to play cloud games on Switch 2? Like, is it cloud?
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, it's got to be cloud. It's got to be similar to what it Takes two does and. And the other one they just came out with.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
But is that cloud?
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Andy Cortez
I thought that was like, they know. Really? Yeah, it's cloud.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
No way.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah.
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Andy Cortez
When you are the added player. When I hopped into somebody's game, I was like, oh, this looks noticeably lower res. I am watching like a feed right now. You know, I'm. I'm not getting a native version of the game right now.
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Greg Miller
And honestly, like, you're dialing in as a controller and streaming the.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah. The footage and you know, obviously people immediately will worry about that. But I talked about this yesterday. Blessing on the kind of funny happy.
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Tim Gettys
Hour.
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Andy Cortez
That Mario Kart session at LA on LAX WI Fi. Pretty crazy.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Pretty good.
- [36:45]
Tim Gettys
That.
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Andy Cortez
It pretty good was awesome and it was smooth. Now, granted, blessing did get kicked before the final match.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Andy Cortez
But like, on LAX WI Fi, we were able to play with other people. We had Ignacio Rojas, who is one of our community members, who on the stream was like, and I'm in Chile. And that worked.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's crazy.
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Andy Cortez
Crazy, dude. Like, so obviously anything Internet related, it's really, really natural to go, oh, Nintendo, come on. But I. I think that a lot of stuff has been fixed and will continue to get better. And I was really blown away by that Mario Kart experience. And I could totally see this being almost another proving ground and say, no, this works.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, no, totally. And I. I'm there and. And the Chad is telling me like, they explained this in the. The actual direct, which I don't fully remember, but I'm just shocked about the Switch 1 part. The Switch 1 being able to do this is like, that's crazy cool, like, but good for them. And I guess it's not that big of a surprise. Like someone was bringing up the Wii U of like a very similar kind of system too. So it's like, all right, but cool.
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Greg Miller
To see them do it.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, absolutely.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Is this, you know, no question. The dumb question, does this use like Internet or is it via.
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Tim Gettys
Right. Or is it like that ad hoc stuff?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, that's why. That's why I'm wondering, like, is it the thing of, hey, if you're in the same vicinity, switches can just speak to each other.
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Barrett Courtney
I was incorrect about Mario Kart World, but these are the right now. The share locally able games right now.
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Tim Gettys
Interesting. I mean, I do think that that's cool. It sucks that it's not for Mario Kart, but for the neck. The second big exclusive to have that feature with Switch 1 is very smart. And obviously I would say majority of people that have Switch 2s at this point also have Switch 1s in their household. Like, I. I don't know if we'll ever know that. But like, I feel like that's a pretty safe assumption. So that's cool to be able to give Ben a second one. Well, the other bends the world that don't have the luxury.
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Greg Miller
Not the bed whose dad is like, you will never want for anything. There's a Switch two downstairs boxed, ready for you. I did take the doc. I was like, I could have a dock downstairs, but almost then.
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Tim Gettys
Find familiar game says. My friends and I just left our secure stable job to launch a new game shop in Ohio. Thanks for inspiring us to just go do the thing and chase our dream. Congrats.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Beautiful.
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Greg Miller
I saw this one. I've been looking into it. I backed them on Indiegogo. They had a. They have an Indiegogo up you could go. You can go to find familiar games on Instagram if you want to check it out and stuff. But I'll be getting a T shirt. Very stoked about that. Mount Vernon, Ohio.
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Tim Gettys
That's. That's so cool. You know, not to add more work to your plates, but There's a couple YouTube channels that I've started following recently that are just game shot like retro games shop owners and they just like make weekly videos of like the people that come in the shop and like what they get. Here's the trades they make and all this stuff and my, this is so freaking cool. So, like, hey, if you want more work, make a YouTube channel. I'll watch it. Wendell Shoemaker says, I will not stand for the slander towards the Brutals from Odyssey. Loved seeing a new cast of villains outside the Koopalings. And they had fun boss battles you could exploit to finish faster.
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Andy Cortez
Yeah, all the Brutals, I mean, they're definitely better than the Astrobot. And enemies. Come on, think about that stupid ass.
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Greg Miller
I remember the green alien dude. I don't remember any of these goddamn bunnies. I remember Bowser dressed to the knives, ready to marry Peach.
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Tim Gettys
Yeah, it's. I, I'm. I want to say I'm torn, but I'm not. I didn't like the Brutals. I, I, I, I want to see a new cast because I get. We can't just do the couplings over and over, but we haven't ever done the koopalings in 3D. Right. Am I wrong about that?
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
I guess not. Yeah, you're.
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Tim Gettys
I think let's do it. You know, same thing here with, like, the Kremlin's, man. We haven't seen them in hell.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
They not in galaxy. In any of the galaxies.
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Tim Gettys
No.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Okay. No, we gotta have like a, like a summit for 3D platformer, like, villain. Like groups of villains, you know, I mean, like, I think Andy as an artist group. Yeah. Like more of a. We just got to get it together because I feel like even the big dogs are failing on this. Like, you know, with Odyssey, with Astrobot, like, like, why are these groups of villains? I think we have to have Kojima as a speaker.
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Greg Miller
Ah, you.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Will you look back at all the metal gears.
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Andy Cortez
It's like, always amazing villains between the Beast.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. How do we translate that to 3D platformers?
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Tim Gettys
You know, you're right, though, dude. It's important. We should have a summit. Let's have the summit.
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Andy Cortez
I think these, I think these will. You know, at one point, the Koopalings were nobodies to us. Right. I think I'm using the same rationale. I was like, look, at one point, Will Ferrell in your favorite SNL cast was nobody. But at I. This group, what were they calling again?
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Tim Gettys
The Void.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
The Void Bastards.
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Andy Cortez
I think they can really tear this up. Yeah. I think they're gonna stand when you.
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Greg Miller
Look like a Gremlin. I'm down.
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Tim Gettys
They look better. I, I think that these look significantly better than the cast of Nintendo villains that are brand new, like, groups that we've seen in. And I'm Including Tropical Freeze and Donkey Kong Country Returns. I think that this group feels like it has a lot more personality than the Brutals, for sure. So who are the Kirby and the.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Forgotten Land villains there?
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Tim Gettys
Was that the big monkey? There's a big. Just a bunch of big animals.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
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Tim Gettys
We gotta fix Armadillo.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
We gotta fix this. Enough with just the big animals.
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Barrett Courtney
Really quick.
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Andy Cortez
Bless.
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Barrett Courtney
Just another thing that made me think about DK64. If you see in the kind of top right corner of the G here, you see this gong over here? A lot of.
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Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, you're right. Oh, we're still back.
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Greg Miller
I do want to call something out from the official press release here. All right. Because I was trying to get all the names of the Void Company or whatever. But more importantly, they do call out that the Void Company, they are also responsible for turning Pauline into Odd Rock.
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Andy Cortez
Oh, wow.
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Greg Miller
She is not Odd Rock turning into Pauline. It is, in fact, according to Nintendo, if you want to believe that they could be swerving us.
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Tim Gettys
Us.
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Greg Miller
They could be swerving us before the.
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Tim Gettys
Whole direct ended with a dramatic moment of her falling into a void. Right. And then him reaching out. Like, what if, like, the dramatic end of this game is they have to make a sacrifice and, like, do we save this entire world or does she turn into a rock and Donkey Kong punches that thing into oblivion?
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Andy Cortez
Jesus.
- [42:53]
Tim Gettys
I think the end of this game is either gonna be them facing Mario or Donkey Kong fucking destroying Pauline as a rock.
- [42:58]
Greg Miller
Sure, sure. But then that'll. But that sacrifice will let her come back as well. A human being.
- [43:01]
Andy Cortez
You're so right. I mean, the whole. The whole game is the anti. You know, anti rock agenda.
- [43:07]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah. Wow.
- [43:08]
Tim Gettys
Crazy stuff.
- [43:11]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Jesus. So such a violent thought.
- [43:14]
Barrett Courtney
As much as I want the. The Mario ending, Mike Minati made a good point on Last of Nintendogs where it's like Nintendo, it's.
- [43:22]
Tim Gettys
It.
- [43:23]
Barrett Courtney
They don't want to have Mario be seen as like, a villain, quote unquote. Or like, as, you know.
- [43:30]
Tim Gettys
But like, I don't believe that. That. Like, that. That doesn't sound like a real thing. I know you're gonna tell me knowing that no one's gonna give Mario a gun. You will see Mario in Fortnite with a gun at some point. I stand by.
- [43:42]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
He had a gun in the.
- [43:43]
Tim Gettys
Remember when they were horrified when Rare.
- [43:44]
Barrett Courtney
Gave Donkey Kong a gun?
- [43:46]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
And also he. Mario was frowning in like the Smash Brothers.
- [43:50]
Tim Gettys
He's been scowling.
- [43:53]
Barrett Courtney
That's different than being an antagonist, though.
- [43:56]
Andy Cortez
I think that if you, you know, at any point were really, you know, Attracted to the visuals of Sonic the Hedgehog. And you go, oh, he's. He's fighting my guy in the Olympics. Like, yeah, yeah, he's my villain right now, you know? Yeah, he is my rush in the. In that one hockey game.
- [44:15]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I also. I don't see it as. Also, I don't see it as, like an antagonist thing. I see it as like a ending Easter egg of like, oh, that's Mario. Oh, he's coming for me.
- [44:27]
Tim Gettys
Again. We're gonna follow the Last of Us thing. We're seeing Last of Us vibes here. Like, Donkey Kong is the bad guy, Mario's the good guy at the end. Think of it that.
- [44:33]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What if halfway through, you have to play as Mario and then you learn a lot about the connection between people?
- [44:38]
Tim Gettys
They're holding a lot back in this direction. Oh, man.
- [44:42]
Andy Cortez
You're like, I never thought. I never thought he'd win me over.
- [44:44]
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
- [44:44]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I was like, wow, I like Mario. That's crazy.
- [44:47]
Tim Gettys
The DK Artist mode.
- [44:49]
Andy Cortez
Oh, crazy.
- [44:50]
Greg Miller
Very cool.
- [44:51]
Andy Cortez
It looks great. Yeah. It kind of reminds me of Tilt Brush, or I'm blanking on the actual app name for it. But it was one of those kind of first apps that you get whenever you have your VR glasses, because you're essentially using the JoyCons to manipulate everything. I think it looks really rad. I mean, what a weird addition to throw in here. That makes really no sense, but they're kind of just throwing everything in here.
- [45:14]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It feels like one of those things where once you have the systems of the games established and you realize how much, like, good destructibility you have here, it's like, well, we could turn this into a sculpting thing pretty easy if you wanted to.
- [45:24]
Andy Cortez
This feels like the game was done a year and a half ago.
- [45:28]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
- [45:28]
Andy Cortez
And then they're like, oh, it's done for the switch to launch. And they were like, oh, we delayed that a year and a half. We got extra fucking.
- [45:33]
Greg Miller
But what do you guys want to do?
- [45:35]
Tim Gettys
So much of this game screams to me like a kid's first adventure. Like, this is going to be so many kids favorite video game or first favorite video game. And, yeah, adding, like, these extra little modes that seem more fleshed out than they should be. It doesn't just seem like an afterthought. It's like, let's really get in there and add fun little gimmicks and things that kids are going to want to do, like the turning on the lights and adding the animated backgrounds and stuff. Like I've said. This before, but like getting Mario Paint, I found so much fun in that game. And it was just a freaking Ms. Paint clone, you know what I mean? With like minor minigames and stuff. The music composer like that music. But that was. The thing is like, it gave you so many things to do that felt like you wanted to do. And I feel like with this, like the kids are gonna have so much fun. Like the scene, the Mario and Donkey Kong and all that stuff. I imagine those are going to be preset standards and you can just like load those up and then with them. Like, kids love coloring books.
- [46:26]
Greg Miller
Yeah.
- [46:26]
Tim Gettys
You know what I mean? Allow them to like play with this stuff in a video game. I think that's really, really cool.
- [46:31]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Hell yeah.
- [46:32]
Greg Miller
Awesome. I can't wait.
- [46:34]
Tim Gettys
The transformations are interesting to me. Very Yoshi coated, which is a good thing. I like the gameplay variations, but I'm not seeing too many variations here. I think that's my biggest problem is so much in this game. It's like you're just punching and breaking shit. And then it's all right, here's your ability. You go faster to punch and break shit. Here's another transformation where you punch and break.
- [46:56]
Andy Cortez
You running water. He's running on water there as a zebra.
- [46:59]
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
- [46:59]
Andy Cortez
The ostrich is used for flight.
- [47:01]
Greg Miller
And he's got eggs he just wants to hate.
- [47:04]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
For me, it takes me back to like the Don Kong country games where like you had transformations in those. Did you transform into Ramby or did you ride Ramby? I'm forgetting now, you wrote them in the same island.
- [47:15]
Tim Gettys
You transform into the thing 64.
- [47:16]
Barrett Courtney
64.
- [47:17]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Before you transform into them.
- [47:19]
Barrett Courtney
Yeah, you transform.
- [47:19]
Tim Gettys
Wow.
- [47:20]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
They really couldn't figure that out in 64. Like just make them turn into the. But I guess, like, if I'm counting those, as I guess transformation, slash, power up situations, right? Like that had two or three between Rambi and then the swordfish, the ostrich and the ostrich.
- [47:35]
Andy Cortez
The swordfish would have been a cool addition.
- [47:37]
Tim Gettys
I mean, I'm sure he's in this.
- [47:39]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You think so?
- [47:40]
Tim Gettys
With how much they're showing here? Like, I mean even look at that. Like the design of the. The rocks has the. Like old school.
- [47:46]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
- [47:47]
Andy Cortez
You would want to be underwater.
- [47:48]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
What?
- [47:48]
Tim Gettys
Mario versus Donkey Kong, Right? What are they fighting on? What is that, a construction site?
- [47:55]
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah.
- [47:56]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
But I know what you're talking about because I tried to name it earlier. I couldn't think of the word I was looking for.
- [47:59]
Tim Gettys
They're on girders, ramps, but like steel girders. Little wrecking cruise ship. I'm not sure. But.
- [48:08]
Andy Cortez
Will we get a swimming bonanza for him? Which animal? I mean, that would be the. The swordfish, if there were to be one. A marlin, if you will. Remember when Roger didn't know the word marlin?
- [48:19]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
No. Are you trying to create new narratives because you can remember croissant or whatever. Oh, bagel.
- [48:24]
Andy Cortez
No, but. Well, that was me just forgetting the word.
- [48:29]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Trying to bring other people down with it.
- [48:31]
Tim Gettys
That was just me not being able.
- [48:32]
Andy Cortez
To remember the name of a word in the way that I never remember words. But yeah, I remember like bringing up the word swordfish. And then I brought up the word marlin. He was like, what's a marlin? I was like, what are you talking about?
- [48:42]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's crazy.
- [48:43]
Greg Miller
What is it in New York they don't got fish?
- [48:46]
Andy Cortez
A marlin looks like a swordfish.
- [48:48]
Tim Gettys
Yeah. Yeah.
- [48:49]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I'm gonna be honest. I didn't know what this was either.
- [48:51]
Tim Gettys
Matt. Matt in the chat says, give some love to my boy. Squawks. Squawks is the parrot, which we did see in here. He was one of the things that you can.
- [49:00]
Greg Miller
Spelled it so wrong, it brought up.
- [49:02]
Andy Cortez
A completely different definition.
- [49:03]
Tim Gettys
Marilyn Monroe's pop it up.
- [49:07]
Greg Miller
He said Marilyn M A R I L L I N is a feminine name. Or Lagby Gorgon.
- [49:13]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, that is an eye there. I put an extra high.
- [49:18]
Tim Gettys
Oh, my God, I love that.
- [49:19]
Andy Cortez
Oh, I did.
- [49:21]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
We.
- [49:21]
Andy Cortez
Sorry, Bear may have brought up the Diddy Kong and Dixie Kong part and I just wasn't. Maybe.
- [49:26]
Greg Miller
Yeah, we froze on it a few times sitting at their little desk.
- [49:29]
Tim Gettys
I mean the store. The stuff. Shop stuff.
- [49:32]
Greg Miller
Yeah.
- [49:32]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's all just Mario.
- [49:33]
Greg Miller
Yeah, exactly.
- [49:34]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
It's crazy how much of it is.
- [49:35]
Tim Gettys
Just goofy ass costumes. Oh, yeah.
- [49:37]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
So much of the UI in this game is Mario Odyssey with a different. With a slightly different font.
- [49:41]
Greg Miller
Like a. I'll take it, man. Let's fucking go.
- [49:43]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
We can't bring them up again. I miss them every single time.
- [49:46]
Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah.
- [49:46]
Greg Miller
They're at the desk.
- [49:47]
Barrett Courtney
Yeah. There seems to be like a competition thing going on here, so maybe they're judges or some.
- [49:53]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
That's cool.
- [49:53]
Greg Miller
Then he smashes the desk.
- [49:55]
Andy Cortez
They welcome there. We. We don't have your reservations.
- [49:57]
Greg Miller
There are no kings. He says, and he smashes.
- [49:59]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Just take out Dixie Kong. Jesus.
- [50:03]
Greg Miller
She's okay.
- [50:04]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah.
- [50:05]
Andy Cortez
I don't see any blessings. Google search right now. There's a marlin there. Is it?
- [50:11]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I didn't know these. I didn't know they're called so like, is swordfish not the scientific name?
- [50:15]
Andy Cortez
I'm sure they're different genuses or species or something like that. I'm sure there's something different. I love the color variants, man. I like. It's one of my favorite things in gaming, you know? Yeah, it's what. You know, seeing Mega man get different colored armor is so cool back in the day for me.
- [50:33]
Tim Gettys
Yeah. One of his power ups as he turns into an ostrich.
- [50:36]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Oh, you know what? Sorry, I was thinking of the swordfish. My bad. Yeah, I was thinking about the marlin. Yeah.
- [50:41]
Tim Gettys
And I'm with you, Andy. And them having different skills. Very cool. I hope there's the Transmog or whatever it's called. Stuff to not like to be aesthetically pleasing and have the power ups. They won't.
- [50:49]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I guarantee you they won't have that. They don't know what that is.
- [50:52]
Tim Gettys
Them having the. The music actually being able to go in and like, choose different songs. Thank you. That's awesome. And it seems like that there's gonna be like a sizable library of songs, so. And I loved the Odyssey soundtrack. It was such a different vibe and stuff too.
- [51:04]
Andy Cortez
So I kind of wish that there weren't these RPG mechanics. Not that I'm like, ever again. I'm never that type of person that, like, when a game adds that stuff, I'm always like, ah, I'm never that dude. But I. I would like it if just as you progress through the game, all of that stuff became stronger and then you could go, oh, now I'm seeing stuff way deep in that mountain. Let me go back to the first world and see what I could have missed there, you know?
- [51:34]
Greg Miller
Would you rather be as the more you use it, it levels up automatically. So if you're you pinging sonar all the time, it's leveling up.
- [51:40]
Andy Cortez
Well, no, because I don't want you to be at your desk doing the lockpick mechanic in Oblivion.
- [51:44]
Greg Miller
That was a lot of fun, though.
- [51:46]
Andy Cortez
30 minutes.
- [51:48]
Greg Miller
It was 15, everybody. To get it to 99 or whatever.
- [51:52]
Tim Gettys
Last 30 seconds. I've just watched Bless go from tab to tab to tab looking at different versions of Swordfish. And then he slowly goes to Marlin from Finding Nemo and clicks on it to get to his, like, Wikipedia page to, like, learn more. We're a broken society, everybody.
- [52:07]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Why would they call the clownfish a marlin? That's confusing. Is it? As a child, how am I supposed to.
- [52:13]
Tim Gettys
How am I supposed to grow up.
- [52:14]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Knowing what a marlin is when Pixar's told me this whole time that this clownfish is called Marlin.
- [52:18]
Roger
That's just his name.
- [52:19]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Yeah, but that's confusing. As a kid, I guess I also.
- [52:21]
Andy Cortez
Grew up, you know, I'm at. I'm an Atlanta Braves fan. The Florida Marlins were a team and are a team, and then now they're the Miami Marlins.
- [52:29]
Tim Gettys
That's the only reason I knew it's. I knew they were a baseball team.
- [52:33]
Greg Miller
That's probably where I first heard it, too.
- [52:35]
Tim Gettys
Yeah. Yeah.
- [52:36]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
I keep going back and forth because swordfish and marlin, very different. But also, I don't know, it's cool to see some DNA, share some DNA.
- [52:42]
Tim Gettys
Good.
- [52:43]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
You know, I'm trying to figure out.
- [52:44]
Barrett Courtney
Cousins, you know, for sure.
- [52:47]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
Was it who was. Was it somebody on this panel that asked me about orcas recently that didn't leave?
- [52:52]
Andy Cortez
So you may have dreamt that maybe it was Roger.
- [52:54]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
There's somebody that didn't know what an orca was and how to teach him.
- [52:56]
Andy Cortez
Really?
- [52:57]
Tim Gettys
Stop making up these narratives.
- [52:58]
Blessing Adioye Jr.
No, I sort of got the narratives this happened.
- [53:01]
Tim Gettys
What are the narratives you have about Donkey Kong Bonanza? Let us know in the comments. Comments below. We are about to do an episode of Kind at Funny Games Cast where we are breaking down the WB Games situation. What's going on there? And after that, we got a Super fun stream. Uncharted 2 continuing Naughty Dog Week leading into this Friday's Barrett Courtney video essay where he replayed every single Naughty Dog game. What are his thoughts? You'll have to wait and see on Friday. But until then, I love you all. Goodbye.