EVEN MORE 10 Games to Know Us - Kinda Funny Gamescast

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Kinda Funny Gamescast

Episode: EVEN MORE 10 Games to Know Us

Date: November 13, 2025
Host(s): Greg Miller, Joey Barrett, Joanna Noel (Joey), Barrett Courtney

Episode Overview

This week’s Kinda Funny Gamescast dives deep into the ongoing “10 Games to Know Us” trend, where hosts reflect on the ten video games that shaped their tastes and personalities. Joey Noel and Barrett Courtney take center stage, sharing the ten games that define their gaming journeys, why those games matter to them, and how each left a mark on who they are today.

Expect candid, personal stories mixed with familiar Kinda Funny banter, a dash of nostalgia, and unique insight into how games impact us across decades, genres, and life moments.

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Key Sections & Timestamps

• Topic Introduction & Methodology (06:14)
• Joey Noel’s 10 Games (15:53)
• Game-by-Game Deep Dive (Joey) (17:08–41:05)
• Barrett Courtney’s 10 Games (43:29)
• Game-by-Game Deep Dive (Barrett) (44:30–65:08)
• Closing Remarks (65:08–end)

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Topic Introduction & Methodology

06:14–08:30

• Greg explains the premise: Hosts compile lists of 10 games that, taken together, “let people know you” as a gamer and a person.
• Joey Noel frames her list as “games that over the course of my lifetime changed my view on video games or my taste significantly,” especially as a girl growing up when games were often “for boys.” (06:44)
• Barrett Courtney focuses on “defining moments in time,” and games that “opened me up to a new genre” or “changed the trajectory of how I view art or storytelling.” (07:43)

"Not necessarily 10 favorite games of all time, but definitely those moments where this is either bringing me back into video games or opening me up to a new genre."
– Barrett Courtney (07:51)

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Joey Noel’s 10 Games

15:53

Joey presents her list, emphasizing each is tied to pivotal moments and shifts in how she engaged with games:

1. Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?
2. Pokémon Snap
3. Destiny 2
4. Viva Piñata
5. Dance Dance Revolution (DDR Extreme 2)
6. Fortnite
7. Neopets
8. Animal Crossing: New Horizons
9. Diablo 3
10. Stardew Valley

Joey shares an animated Canva collage to visually represent her list.

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Game-by-Game Deep Dive (Joey)

17:08–41:05

1. Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?

• Childhood “family computer” point-and-click classic.
• Sparked her love for puzzles and led her to the TV show.

"I feel like not that many people talk about Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego. I feel like people talk about the location-based one..."
– Joey Noel (18:24)

2. Pokémon Snap

• Bundled with her N64.
• The cute Pokémon and simple gameplay drew her in more than the core franchise.

“This just came with the N64 that I got for my birthday one year… at my house, I had Pokémon Snap and I had Tony Hawk Pro Skater. That was it.”
– Joey Noel (20:49)

3. Destiny 2

• First real MMO shooter she got hooked on.
• Mentioned her "core group of girlfriends" who helped onboard her. Community aspects and helpfulness essential.

"Destiny… the kind of funny Destiny community in its many forms for being so welcoming… I had, like, a bigger group of people that I could ping at any point and jump in with."
– Joey Noel (23:04)

4. Viva Piñata

• Played in college at a friend’s house—her “gateway” sim game.
• The cute art and caretaking gameplay triggered a life-long sim obsession.

"All the little noises are so fun. So I feel like that was the—yeah—the starting point for really being into sim games."
– Joey Noel (25:06)

5. Dance Dance Revolution (DDR Extreme 2)

• PlayStation 2 bundle; started the "peripherals era" of home gaming.
• Loved for its fun, physical gameplay and party memories.

"DDR was the party game, and the peripherals era of video games was so fun… I realized video games didn’t have to include a controller."
– Joey Noel (26:21/27:15)

6. Fortnite

• Her “first shooter that I ever played or cared about.”
• Started before Destiny 2, learned stick shooting there, and found a social circle that supported fun over competition.

"God bless them—because we just had fun… I could pick up [Fortnite] tomorrow and have… low barrier to reentry."
– Joey Noel (30:26/31:20)

7. Neopets

• Her first online game; “every generation has one”—digital pets, mini-games, message boards.
• Managed timers, accessories, and dabbled in online communities.

8. Animal Crossing: New Horizons

• Describes New Horizons as core to her gaming DNA.
• Explosion of playtime during 2020 quarantine (played almost 900 hours in six months).
• Social hub, creativity, and comfort game.

"Animal Crossing New Horizons is such an interesting game and time period… it became such a core memory."
– Joey Noel (34:06/35:08)

9. Diablo 3

• Inspired by Minecraft Dungeons, then Lauren introduced her to Diablo proper.
• Helped her understand classes and abilities, essential for her Destiny journey.

"This was fundamental in helping me understand Destiny, of classes and abilities."
– Joey Noel (37:19)

10. Stardew Valley

• The indie darling that brought her "back to gaming"—her prelude to Animal Crossing.
• “Desert island game” bought on every platform; loves time management, sim farming, and endless creativity.

"It’s the one that… is definitely a desert island game… I have so many different farms depending on the vibe."
– Joey Noel (39:15/39:59)

On Her “Gamer DNA”

"Joey is the casual gamer representative for Kinda Funny… But you get into all sorts of stuff that are real games."
– Greg Miller (38:07)

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Barrett Courtney’s 10 Games

43:29

Barrett’s picks highlight formative moments, challenge, and narrative:

1. Batman: Arkham Asylum
2. Grim Fandango
3. SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom
4. Bully
5. Cuphead
6. Donkey Kong 64
7. Chrono Trigger
8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
9. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
10. Persona 5 (Royal)

His selections run the gamut from retro RPGs to iconic platformers and deep narrative experiences.

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Game-by-Game Deep Dive (Barrett)

44:30–65:08

1. Chrono Trigger

• Introduced by family friends; “the beginning of my relationship with RPGs.”
• Credits its story structure and cutscenes as formative.

"It was one of those, you know, a game that I was debating on having here… but the stories grabbed me… an early one for me for, like, having actual animated cutscenes."
– Barrett Courtney (45:00)

2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

• “The beginning of this obsession with [Zelda] for me.”
• Praises its smart guiding open design.

“Link to the Past was very much being obsessed with actually progressing to get to the Dark World and going on this big adventure.”
– Barrett Courtney (48:01)

3. Grim Fandango

• First “appreciation for fun & goofy stories and art styles.” Remastered version cemented it as a favorite.
• Cites its “Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network vibes” and noir storytelling.

4. Donkey Kong 64

• “Memory seared in my brain”—got the translucent green N64.
• Played with his dad; loves the music, world, and—even notoriously flawed—design.

“This was my Grant Kirkhope soundtrack… These were our characters.”
– Barrett Courtney (54:01)

5. SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom

• Iconic as both platformer and TV tie-in.
• Represents the era of gaming via things he loved outside gaming.
• Cemented his ongoing love for 3D platformers.

6. Bully

• The “school sim” he always wanted as a kid; found humor and lived-in world compelling.
• Preferable “small town” Rockstar experience rather than GTA.

7. Batman: Arkham Asylum

• “The game that really got me back into thinking about video games and playing video games for video game’s sake.”
• Loved the Metroidvania design and the chemistry of the iconic voice cast.

“For Arkham Asylum, that was the game that really got me back into thinking about video games and playing them for their own sake and less about IP…”
– Barrett Courtney (59:37)

8. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• Most-played comfort game (est. 500–600 hours).
• Loves its sense of speed and “Grand Prix” feel.

9. Cuphead

• The seed for his modern love of tough games.
• Had to “git gud” to record capture for IGN; the game’s style and challenge opened the door to harder games like Elden Ring.

“Cuphead was the first, like, 'I gotta get good at this' kind of game, where now I’m playing Elden Rings…”
– Barrett Courtney (62:18)

10. Persona 5 Royal

• Elevated by the Royal content; world and characters that feel like “home.”
• The series that crystalized his love for JRPGs.

“A world and story that I adore to this day… when I think about their journey and their character arcs—it feels like home.”
– Barrett Courtney (63:59)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Joey (On sim games):
  “All the little noises are so fun. So I feel like [Viva Piñata] was the starting point for really being into sim games.” (25:06)
• Greg (On defining games):
  "These are talking about—I define this—games that make up your gamer DNA." (38:07)
• Barrett (On Arkham Asylum):
  “The first time doing that Scarecrow sequence was so good... The chemistry that Hamill had with Conroy was just magnificent.” (59:39)
• Barrett (On Persona):
  “...Characters that I think of as—not actual lifelong friends—but when I think about their journey…it feels like home.” (63:59)

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Other Highlights

• Conversations on how growing up as a girl affected Joey’s initial perception and access to games.
• Reflections on “casual gamer” labels and depth of engagement.
• Stories about learning genres and social aspects, including the value of welcoming gaming communities.
• Several “deep cut” picks, such as Neopets and Carmen Sandiego.

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:14 | Start of “10 Games to Know Us” discussion | | 15:53 | Joey’s list revealed and walkthrough starts | | 17:08–41:05 | Detailed Joey game-by-game discussion | | 43:29 | Barrett’s list introduction | | 44:30–65:08 | Detailed Barrett game-by-game discussion | | 65:08 | Episode ends and teases future “games that define Kinda Funny”|

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Conclusion

This episode is a heartfelt look at how games shape people beyond just favorite genres or franchises. Joey and Barrett’s lists, stories, and candid reflections offer a window into their personalities and passions, underscoring how games—even the most unexpected ones—become lasting pillars of our identity.

If you’ve ever wondered about the games that molded a Kinda Funny host, this is their answer.

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Next Up:
Cool Greg’s list and, soon, a group list of “10 Games That Define Kinda Funny” are teased for a future episode.

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“Until next time, it’s been our pleasure to serve you.”

Transcript

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[Greg Miller]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Thursday, November 13, 2025. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller, alongside Christmas in November, Joey Noel. It's me getting so close to real Christmas.

[Joanna]

We're getting very close.

[Greg Miller]

And of course, making a rare games cast desk appearance. The boss, Baby Bear, Courtney.

[Joey Barrett]

I feel like I've been on this shit.

[Greg Miller]

Well, God, more than Tim this week.

[Joey Barrett]

I've been on the show, I think, more in the last month than ever.

[Greg Miller]

We need you. You know what I mean?

[Joanna]

That's the.

[Greg Miller]

The people, the kids, the children, they yearn for more.

[Joanna]

Barrett.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

How are you?

[Joey Barrett]

I'm doing well. I had a little bit of a funky morning. I think it's the. The weather, the rain.

[Greg Miller]

Funky, like emotional.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, trying to get back into it, drink some coffee. Hanging out with you to hopefully bring up my day.

[Greg Miller]

It should bear it.

[Joanna]

And I never do content together.

[Joey Barrett]

I know that's the true rare thing.

[Joanna]

I think the rarest pairing for sure.

[Greg Miller]

Well, I'm excited because it's gonna be a fun one. Of course the trend as you know has been 10 games to know me, know us. And we have gone through and done a whole bunch of kind of funny folks. And you enjoy it so much that today we're gonna do Joey Barrett and cool Greg to find out what are the 10 games to know them. But before then, remember that this is the Kinda Funny Gamescast. Each and every weekday we run you through the biggest topics in video games. Whether they be reviews, previews or just things we need to talk about. We cover them here on YouTube.com kindafunnygames twitch tv, kindafunnygames and of course podcast services around the globe. If you like that, we'd like you to pick up a kinda funny membership. Patreon.com kinda funny where I be Quippin.

[Joanna]

Ooh.

[Joey Barrett]

Oh he quippin.

[Greg Miller]

Tell us about quipping Real Patreon's making their own Twitter inside of the Patreon app and it's called quips and I'm on it. I'm quipping for us to put up a photo of Blessing yesterday Quippin in

[Joey Barrett]

the middle of us.

[Greg Miller]

I was telling bless about quips so I quipped him on the quip. Yeah, eventually on the patreon.com I guess. But right now it's the app of course. Patreon.com kindafunny YouTube.com kindafunnygames Apple and Spotify, you can pick up your membership, get all of our shows ad free. That's more than 80amonth. Get your daily dose of me, Greg Miller and a 15 to 20 minute podcast called that's also a video that I record all by my lonesome and answer your questions. And of course you'd get good karma for supporting an 11 person small business. All about live talk shows. Of course if you want to be part of this, and I need you to be part of this, you need to be super chatting. YouTube.com kindafunnygames I need you to predict Joey's list, Barrett's list.

[Joey Barrett]

Cool.

[Greg Miller]

Greg's list. What are the 10 games that define them? And of course I stole it from kind of I want you to percolate on this one because I stole it from the Reddit. But someone over there said what are the 10 games that define kind of funny? And I will we will be doing that as a games cast in the future probably when it gets a little bit slower around here.

[Joey Barrett]

But I wanted is that one where we build the list live I think so, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I think we all come together and argue what version of Nidhogg, because what Nidhog's got knit hog two's gotta be.

[Joey Barrett]

It's got to be Nidhogg two, even though I prefer one.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, you're a man of taste.

[Joey Barrett]

I like the simple art style. Like I being gross and weird and stuff, but that like, pixelated art style I think kicks it really good.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I agree with that too.

[Joey Barrett]

Weapons.

[Greg Miller]

Lightning reacts. Save it, everybody. We'll get there eventually. Husky, before you remember, we're all about live talk shows. You already got Kind of Funny Games daily today covering PlayStation's Horizon MMO RPG. It won't be coming to PlayStation 5, though, don't worry about that. Wait, what's going on? Mobile and PC. All right, I missed that part. After this, of course, it's gonna be Edgar Wright in review, the Running Man. Then Mike and myself are doing a sponsored arknights Enfield Stream. If you're a kind of funny member, today's Greg Way is 25 minutes covering the Steam machine as a console gamer gateway, the future, or lack thereof, of dedicated handhelds and more. Do I give away a Steam deck in it? I do. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Karl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining for now, let's begin the show with what is and forever will be topic of the show. As I said, even more 10 games to know us. If you missed this, it is a social media trend out there in the cyberverse where people put up a photo of themselves. I'm just going to keep staring at Barrett with 10 games on them that define them. What are 10 games to know you? What does that mean? We have all had our own definitions about that and today we've come to figure out for Joey, Barrett and cool Greg what those games are. Joanna.

[Joanna]

Oh, I'm getting full government name today. This is a serious topic.

[Greg Miller]

Mine was. Oh, it's funny because I almost went Joseph. Oh, no, that's not. Joey isn't short for Joseph. Joanna.

[Joanna]

They're my entire college friend group. When I'm like in trouble or whatever and they full name me, it's always Joseph.

[Greg Miller]

Really?

[Joey Barrett]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

And then Mom's Boanna when I'm bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanna]

Doesn't happen very often these days, I guess. Maybe when I get more tattoos, she gets mad.

[Greg Miller]

Joanna. Yeah, for you. How do you define 10 games to know me?

[Joanna]

I took this list as, over the course of my lifetime, games that like, changed my view on video games or changed my taste Significantly.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Joanna]

Or like, even if we're going younger ones, I think a lot of it has changed my initial conception of what video games are because I feel like growing up as a girl with video games, especially in the time period that we did, it was like, very much branded for a very long time as like a boy. So finding those like, nuggets and games that I'm like, oh, this can be for me too. And whether it's like, finding out different types of games that I like just based on exposure or the different ways that you can connect in games. Okay, so it is like, I will give you that. It is a list of like decades worth.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I love that. I love that. That's how it should. I think it should be whatever you want it to be. Barrett, how did you define it when you tackled your list?

[Joey Barrett]

Very similarly, I would say, like, I looked at my list as defining moments in time, right. Of like, similar to Joey of like, oh, this changed my perception of what videos video games can be. This is important to me because it changed the trajectory of, you know, how I view a piece of art or storytelling and all that. Because what really brought me into video games was what it can do differently as a storytelling medium. So I thought a lot about that as well. So not necessarily 10 favorite games of all time, but definitely those moments of like, oh, this is either bringing me back into video games or this is opening me up to a new genre that maybe people know me for loving now and stuff like that. So that's, that's how I tackled it.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, so let's crack the nut that is Joey Noel.

[Joanna]

I. So I feel like there's a lot of easy gets.

[Joey Barrett]

I got four locks.

[Greg Miller]

It's. Yeah, that's my thing is I. But I also worry. I don't worry. There's the enumerations. Which version of this are we picking? Right? Cuz like, you know, for predictions, for me, it's going to go obviously, Animal Crossing.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, New Horizons.

[Greg Miller]

And yeah, it's got to be right. Because I, I, I'll tell you as, as the world's greatest detective, people that

[Joanna]

have two of the people who probably understand my Animal Crossing journey significantly and were there for so much.

[Greg Miller]

The only thing, like, I obviously I remember New Horizons. I remember begging Nintendo for two codes so Joey and I could tackle it. We did and we had so much fun. And I want to say, and I don't tell me yet, but I want to say that that was like, I forget what your history with Animal Crossing had been, but I don't feel like you had a deep one unless I'm wrong about that. But what throws me is she coaster now for the DS Animal Crossing. And I'm like did I get it wrong and was it.

[Joey Barrett]

But I want to say that cuz I. Cuz yeah. Stick with me here because this will also be a second guess is I feel like the. The big turning point in these type of games for Joey.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joey Barrett]

I think that's a second lock right there.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I agree that was on. That's on the short list as well.

[Joey Barrett]

But yeah, maybe I'm misremembering as well in terms of.

[Greg Miller]

I think it's got to be New Horizon. I got. It's got to be New Horizons. Joey drinking her water there. I think that's locked. Then you go again. And she did a great job of setting it up here of like games that have changed for her. We got to toss Destiny on this list. But is it Destiny 2? And I think. Cuz I think it is. I think it's Destiny 2 that I

[Joey Barrett]

feel like that's for a lot of people. Like the. The sicko stuck with Destiny 1, but Destiny 2 like took over a lot of people's lives. And I remember like she was a sicko. Yeah. And that. And that was even for myself I remember jumping in and like I remember Joey being there kind of early on in Andrea and like you and all that stuff. So I feel like Destiny 2 was really kind of a big moment for a lot of people who hadn't really been a part of that kind of game before then.

[Greg Miller]

What's. You have a fourth lock. What's your fourth lock?

[Joey Barrett]

Well that wasn't even one of. So my two locks so far that we've talked of, the four are Stardew and Animal Crossing. So my third one in a similar vein would be Fortnite of the social kind of aspect of hanging around doing missions and enjoying a battle royale. But was obsessed the evolution of Fortnite, especially in the Work from Home era. Like it was her and Kevin almost every night Fortnite. So I would say like that's got to be on there.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Joey Barrett]

And then if we're thinking about decades the history of one Joey Noel, the one that I know that she was. She was excited for this sequel for a very long time.

[Greg Miller]

Pokemon.

[Joey Barrett]

Pokemon Snap.

[Greg Miller]

That's a great one Barrett. That's a great one.

[Joey Barrett]

Outside of that. That's where I start to get lost a little bit.

[Greg Miller]

My.

[Joanna]

I. I gotta pull up my list to figure out what you guys haven't guessed.

[Greg Miller]

Animal Crossing, New Horizon, Stardew Valley, Destiny 2, Fortnite, Pokemon Snap. Those are five games we've got pulled right there. That's a great one there. That's Y1. The one I would float, that I'm not confident in and I think is too recent would be Diablo. And I, I, I don't. I'm not, I'm not actually putting that on the list, but I know Joey loved Diablo, but again, I think she loved Diablo 4. I don't remember if she was ever into Diablo 3. I think, again, this was a new shade of Joey that had come from the Destiny, come from the multiplayer, come probably from the Fortnite.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And then. Yeah, I mean, you go back. We got to go way back. Right. And so it is that she's talking about decades. And so what was a break is Pokemon Snap, the breakout game for Joey, where it isn't just for boys that she's able to let her gamer flag fly.

[Joey Barrett]

Okay. You know, I don't know. That's.

[Greg Miller]

Everybody's talking Sims.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, I was just about to say Sims, but I don't know, like, I know, you know, her and Michael talk about Sims every once in a while and just like, talk about, like, the idea of falling, like, like really back into Sims. Falling down the rabbit hole. Yeah, I could, I could see Sims. What's the Most recent one? 3, 4. 4. What's the one everybody still plays? It's a 4.

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[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. Okay. I could see Sims 4B, because that's the one with all the packs, you

[Joanna]

know, so many packs.

[Joey Barrett]

So many, so many DLCs.

[Greg Miller]

Now, here's one I'll toss out there. We're talking about decades. Joey learning about herself, exploring being a gamer. I don't think. I mean, if you needed to know, Joey, you need to know. She hates Mario Party. Do you put it on there, just be like, I hate this fucking game. It's all. I've almost quit the company over being forced to play this game. Just floating it out there. That it would be.

[Joey Barrett]

I like that floater. That's a good floater. Another one to float around. Someone else said it in the chat. Overcooked. Was it you and Alyssa that were, like, really into trying to beat all the overcooked levels for a while, restart everything? Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Bad one.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. Okay. There was also that time there was that infamous.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Stream. Yeah.

[Joanna]

It's really a miracle that Andrea and I are as good of a friend

[Greg Miller]

now as we are after that.

[Joanna]

Like, that is really overcoming something in friendships.

[Greg Miller]

You scooter on that one?

[Joanna]

I did, unintentionally.

[Greg Miller]

All right, so right now, the list that we are. We get less confident as we go again. Animal Crossing, New Horizon, Stardew Valley, Destiny 2. Fortnite. Pokemon Snap, then. Yeah. Sims 4. Overcooked Diablo, Mario Party. Power Wash Simulator.

[Joey Barrett]

Oh, power.

[Greg Miller]

And I think. I. I don't. That is not a real throw. But again, you could see.

[Joey Barrett]

I see the lot of those type of sim games that.

[Greg Miller]

When I said I see a lot of Sims in the chat, I meant people were tossing out Power Simulator, some other simulator. I know. Joey is our simulator person. You just did. What was the Cinema Simulator?

[Joanna]

Yeah, that was really fun. I have three or four screens. We got a lot of movies.

[Joey Barrett]

Nice.

[Joanna]

I have to kick people out for being on their phones. Did you. It's real fun. It's really stressful.

[Greg Miller]

Did you ever play game Dev sim back in the day?

[Joanna]

No. But the chat while I was playing

[Greg Miller]

cinema, all those sims are.

[Joanna]

I should play that one.

[Greg Miller]

So good. Would I like the Cinema Simulator?

[Joey Barrett]

Do I.

[Greg Miller]

Can I play with the controller? I got to play with the mouse keyboard.

[Joanna]

I don't know. I pretty much play all sim games with mouse keyboards.

[Joey Barrett]

If you enjoy, like, telling people off in the movie theater when they're on

[Greg Miller]

their phone, you know I did.

[Joanna]

Oh, no, you don't tell them off. You just slap them.

[Greg Miller]

Good.

[Joanna]

The more fun option is there a

[Greg Miller]

little fucking baby named Nick Scarpino who doesn't have your back? You know what I mean? You want to. You always talk about your friends have your back. Well, you go. Nick doesn't. You know what I mean? He's all tough. Take off your shoe, you old man. All right, I think we have enough to dive in because I. You know that there's going to be ones we've not ever heard you talk about, but like, oh, you know, here's this really hard.

[Joanna]

Polls.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Lion King, Aladdin.

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I don't know.

[Joanna]

No, there were some of those. I feel like I compiled a list because at first when Tim asked me to do this, I was like, do I have 10 games? Because, like, there are a lot of games that I play and I like, but I feel like I dabble so much more casually than everybody else. Yeah. And then I started making the list. I was like, oh, I have way more than 10 games. And then how to start cutting. So let's start with what was number one on your list?

[Greg Miller]

Animal Crossing.

[Joanna]

Nailed it. Of course it is.

[Greg Miller]

Well, let's throw up the. Do we have an image yet. Here we go.

[Joanna]

I made a fun video.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Joanna]

I was. I had asked everybody. I was like, how did you guys make these? And because I have no Photoshop skills. And so then I was like, oh, I can probably use Canva for this. So I did that. And then I sent it to my friend Lauren who works at Canva. She's like, you. And it was just like a white background. And she was like, you can make it more fun. So I added the fun sparkles and then the background.

[Greg Miller]

Nice. We did pretty good here.

[Joanna]

You guys did really good. You nailed, like, half of these.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joanna]

And I feel like the half that you didn't get are. Are tough. Pull.

[Joey Barrett]

I thought about Neopets yesterday because I was, like, trying to think of. Of your list because, like, that is such a. Like, everybody, like, played Neopets like, around that time. Like, that was even one. That For Alyssa, who didn't play games.

[Joanna]

Totally.

[Joey Barrett]

And, like, everybody was on Neopets.

[Greg Miller]

Damn. You did like Diablo 3 Eva Pinata.

[Joey Barrett]

How could I forgot? You asked about it all the time.

[Joanna]

Every time there's an Xbox event, I'm always like, when are we getting more Viva Pinata?

[Greg Miller]

You're very dumb about not getting Viva Pinata.

[Joanna]

It's fine.

[Greg Miller]

All right, so Joey, for the listeners who are driving their UPS trucks right now, run us through your just one to ten right now. No ranked order.

[Joanna]

No order.

[Greg Miller]

And then we'll double back and talk about why.

[Joanna]

Yes. So we've got where in Time is Carmen Sandiego? Pokemon Snap, Destiny 2, Viva Pinata, Dance Dance Revolution. I picked Extreme to. It could be a toss up between a few different DDRs. Fortnite, Neopets, Animal Crossing, Diablo 3, and Stardew Valley.

[Greg Miller]

Great list.

[Joanna]

That's. That's the list I came up with. I feel like the first one on this list was where in Time is Carmen Sandiego? That's a point and click adventure PC, like, old school game. I feel like I don't even really know how I got it, why I got it. Like, I wasn't a big Carmen Sandiego fan necessarily.

[Greg Miller]

So did you get this or was this, like, on the family computer?

[Joanna]

This was on the family computer. But it must have just been for me because it wasn't my parents. Like, if my dad's on the PC, he was playing Quake or something like that. And my mom is, like, not a gamer by any means. So, like, it must have been a present.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Joanna]

Or maybe we were walking. My dad and I used to love Walking around Comp USA just looking at stuff.

[Greg Miller]

God. Yeah.

[Joanna]

And I feel like I probably would have been very easily able to get him to buy me this, but I. I feel like not that many people talk about where in time is Carmen San Diego. I feel like people talk about the location based one, but.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, like, where in the world is the. The one?

[Joanna]

Yeah. And this is like, you're going to different, like, history things and trying to sell all these things to figure out where she is and stuff like that. And this was one that I played over and over.

[Greg Miller]

Did you. Did it? So you say you don't really know where it showed up. It was just there or whatever.

[Joanna]

It was like this and kid pics. That was the other one.

[Greg Miller]

Did it click right away or did you have to. Was it like, you had to get into it a few tries? Like. Okay.

[Joanna]

I feel like it took me a few tries. It's such a funny time to think about in hindsight because it's like, it's not like there were guides or like, not at least that I knew of particularly. So it was a lot of just like trial and error for a lot of these, like, puzzles and stuff like that. Because that was like, kind of my only option.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, of course. Back in the day.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You got the game. That's what you got.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

It's your game now. You got to figure it out. It sucked. Too bad. Make your own game.

[Joanna]

Exactly. There's still like a powerpu girl, like, Game Boy color game that I was like. I don't know if I ever beat the, like, second level. Like, I think I just kept beating the first one.

[Greg Miller]

Fair enough.

[Joanna]

But yeah. And then that, I think led me to, like, the TV show and stuff like that. Now I love Carmen S. Of course.

[Greg Miller]

Who doesn't?

[Joanna]

I played the game that came out last year.

[Greg Miller]

Did you play the most recent one?

[Joanna]

I played, like, probably like a couple hours of it.

[Greg Miller]

I got a code, but I never.

[Joey Barrett]

Is it the same type of vibe or is it.

[Joanna]

Yeah, it's definitely like point and click adventure.

[Joey Barrett]

Okay.

[Joanna]

Kind of stuff. I feel like Ben is probably not that far off of that.

[Joey Barrett]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

I like that.

[Joanna]

Like, it's definitely a kid's game.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Yeah. That's the first one. I like that Pokemon Snap is a funny one, particularly because, like, I don't really have any other history with Pokemon other than Snap. Like, I've never really been into the TV show. Like, I've seen like, random episodes and stuff. Like, my best friends growing up had a bunch a binder full of Cards. And, like, they were really into that. But this just came with the N64 that I got for my birthday one year. And I was just like. And it's very much the thing of, like, comes with the game you're playing. The game is this.

[Greg Miller]

You know, I. My Pokemon Snap knowledge was always that Michael, Bryan's brother, who is smaller than us, we were in high school. He was in, you know, third grade or whatever. He had it. We'd occasionally, we'd have to take it out of the N64 to get to the wrestling games or whatever.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Is Pokemon Snap the one that came with the blue in the Pikachu? N 64. And is that the one you got? Okay, okay, okay.

[Joanna]

So, yeah, so this was in 1990. It came out in March 99, which means that I got it that year for Christmas or my birthday.

[Greg Miller]

Got it, Got it.

[Joanna]

So I was like, 10 or 11 at that point.

[Greg Miller]

You love taking pictures.

[Joanna]

I just. And I, like, the Pokemon were so cute, and you had to do all the things with the apple and the flute. Like, it was a very fun mechanic, and it didn't require, like, a lot of hard gameplay because at that point, I didn't really have, like, controller skills other. And, like, would pick it up occasionally with, like, Mario Party or Mario Kart. But that was, like, at my house, I had Pokemon Snap and I had Tony Hawk Pro Skater. That was it. If we went to my best friend Brittany's house, she had everything 64. She had Mario Party. She had Mario Kart. She had all the, like, party games for the most part.

[Greg Miller]

Talk to me. I know we demanded forever, and then it finally came.

[Joanna]

I don't.

[Greg Miller]

Did we ever get a review from you for Pokemon Snap on Switch? Like, what was the vibe on that one? I don't remember what your temperature was.

[Joanna]

It's fun.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Like, it's more Pokemon Snap. I think that, like, with the evolution of games, the, like, on rails kind of thing sure kind of holds you back. And, like, they do let you deviate, make more choices and stuff like that. I had fun. I never, like, 100% IT and stuff like that, but I did play through to the end. For me, it's always just about, like, which Pokemon do I think are the cutest.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And taking pictures of them. And there's something, like, not quaint, but there's something nice about, like, the on Rails thing that gives you kind of that, like, theme park kind of feeling for it as well. Yeah.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

It was something that, like, I never played Snap growing up. But whenever, you know, whenever we pull up footage for it, I was like, oh, this is like going to a nice little Pokemon theme park.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

And now we can. With not even animatronics, but weird little statues.

[Greg Miller]

It'll be fine. You'll have a great time. Don't worry about it.

[Joanna]

There's something about it, too, where it's like, cool. I am constrained controls wise to this, like, one track, which means, like, I have to be able to do the thing that I want to do, and it's just then figuring out how do I do it. So there's that.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Joanna]

You guys nailed it with Destiny 2.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joanna]

This.

[Greg Miller]

Were you a Destiny 1 person?

[Joanna]

No, I had never played Destiny 1 at all. And I don't remember exactly what it was. I think it was at this, at the time, like, my, like, core group of girlfriends, most of them met playing Destiny 2. And then Lauren and I kind of came into that group. And, like, Lauren had never played with them, but she had played a lot. So I was, like, the only one that hadn't played.

[Greg Miller]

Got it.

[Joanna]

And this was after I had, like, solidly spent a lot of time in Fortnite, so I felt way more confident about my shooter skills. And I was like, I can get into this. And then it was the hooks that got me. And I really give a lot of credit to the kind of funny Destiny community in its many different forms for being so welcoming. And I feel like Destiny in general, like, they want more people to play. They understand how overly complicated the game is and how not friendly it is for new people to come in. And so they're really, really helpful, at least in my case of, like, okay, here are the things we can shepherd you through these raids and stuff like that. And I feel like it. This was the first time I ever played a game. I feel like where I had, like, a bigger group of people that I could, like, ping at any point and jump in with and stuff like that. And it was one of those things where I was, like, playing very similarly to Fortnite, like, every single day I do want and the store and the shaders and all these things, like, all of the cosmetics and learning how to play games in a class and using abilities was, like, not anything I had really ever done other than Diablo. But I feel like it's a little bit different gameplay wise in Destiny when you're kind of way more reliant on the rest of your party and, yeah, figuring out those mechanics and stuff like that. Viva Pinata is definitely where the sim Game bug started, I think two. Like, I didn't have an Xbox, so this was one that, like, one of the guys that I was friends with in college, like, had in a box among, like, other things. And, like, we would go over and, like, my, like, college roommate Brooke and I would go. And they'd be like, we need two more people to play for. And it would be like, Halo or something, and be like, okay, I guess we're gonna play, because that's what they're doing. And then I'd be like. We'd be, like, staring at the wall, and they'd be like, where are you? We're like, we have no idea. So they very quickly learned, like, okay, maybe Halo's not the thing. And then I was like, what's this? This is colorful. This looks fun. Look at these cute little characters. And then that was just the bug where I'd come over and be like, what are you guys doing? They're like, oh, we're, like, working on this predator study. I'm like, okay, well, I'm just gonna be over here.

[Greg Miller]

Don't worry about me. Let's breed some worms.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

I was like, they're so cute. All the little noises are so fun. So I feel like that was the. Yeah. The starting point for really being into sim games, which obviously doesn't evolves as we get through here. Also, why have we not gotten another Viva Pinata? It's been.

[Greg Miller]

It's crazy.

[Joanna]

It is. I mean, it does feel wild.

[Greg Miller]

You think with everything else they've brought back and done. I mean, I know we had Viva Pinata, too, but you'd think there'd be a modern Viva Pinata. They would have done something for.

[Joey Barrett]

Rare's just busy, you know.

[Greg Miller]

I definitely don't think it'd be Rare making it.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. It can only be them.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

But they're busy with.

[Greg Miller]

That's part of the contract when they got bought by Microsoft. Like, we can. You can have us, but only us ever. We only touch. Viva Pinata.

[Joanna]

Yes. Dance Dance Revolution. Let's talk about the PlayStation 2. Let's do it. I got a PlayStation 2. To this day, I don't know how or why I was not, like, asking for it. I think it was just that my dad wanted one and he wanted a DVD player.

[Greg Miller]

He's like, I want to watch a DVD. Please buy a PlayStation 2.

[Joanna]

So it came with some pack in ATV game that I've never once touched in the entirety. I was like, I'm here for two things and two things. Only one being DDR Smugglers Run. No, DDR and Guitar Hero 2.

[Greg Miller]

Oh yeah.

[Joanna]

Hell yeah. It was like definitely a toss up between those two games of what I put on here. But that was, I feel like the, the party game and the Peripherals era of video games, I feel like, was so fun and like, I just remember summers of like my neighbor Emily coming over and us just playing through every possible track and just not realizing that video games didn't have to include a controller and. Or like had different forms of controllers. Obviously. Like, I grew up playing Duck Hunt and stuff like that, so I knew it from that level. But to have something that was like fun and interactive, I feel like that's where like my love of like random like 90s Euro club music comes from. Because that's like the entirety of what it is. And then the fact that you could also go and like play in arcades and stuff like that. It was a fun like multi location kind of realization that games could be different.

[Joey Barrett]

I was never the biggest DDR person, but for some reason our middle school, in the gym that we had like the, like there's a weight room and they had like a janky. It might have just been like the PS2, like setup for DDR. Yeah. And our go to for my friend Felix and I, we would always. Because we. You'd rotate every station and so whenever we go to, to the DDR station, we would always pick girls. Just want to have fun.

[Joanna]

Oh yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I never.

[Joanna]

ATV off Road Fury. Thank you, Ma.

[Greg Miller]

I never.

[Joey Barrett]

When you said atv, I was like, I see a cover, but I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, I can do that part. Yeah, yeah. DDR. I. Man, I reviewed one at IGN and I reviewed it with the D pad. Like I never actually used it. I just sat there and did that. I think I eventually did something. But like, I remember Roper walking by desk like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, yeah, that's the guy, that's the guy.

[Joey Barrett]

That's atv.

[Greg Miller]

And then, yeah, I didn't have an arcade culture or whatever, you know what I mean? So it was one of those. I remember going to Mizzou and at the student union in the basement they had a couple arcade machines and one of them was DDR. And yeah, people would just fucking line up.

[Joanna]

Just fun. And like to watch somebody who's really good at DDR is definitely way more fun than playing. It's just like.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah, I can, I can hang in my living room playing in public. A different Beast for sure.

[Greg Miller]

Everybody's freaking out in the chat. I would have used the pad at some point, but I remember using the controller. It was Dance Dance Revolution X. Reviewed it 2008 at ignition. My subhead. Yep. Konami's still making these.

[Joanna]

Perfect. Perfect. What do we have next? Fortnite, the game changer. Yeah. Fortnite was the first shooter I had really ever played or cared about. Obviously, I got pulled into, like, random stuff, like, in high school, but that was, like, definitely not. That was like, I'm kind of being forced or they need another person. Not because I'm, like, actively wanting to play, but I think it was after. It must have been an E3 at some point. And I remember the funhouse crews walking around and they had gotten all these, like, free V bucks. Things are like, we don't play Fortnite. And I was like, it's like, looks real colorful and fun, and, like, all these characters look cool. I will take them.

[Greg Miller]

So all of the free people for the timeline, right?

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Fortnite came before Destiny 2.

[Joanna]

Correct.

[Greg Miller]

So is this the seeds, I guess, being planted of you having a multiplayer crew and all this stuff?

[Joanna]

Yeah, Fortnite. I will give the utmost credit to everybody. I played Fortnite with. Fortnite with at the beginning. This is even, like, pre Kevin. This is, like, Lauren, this is Harv. This is Eddie. People that played Fortnite with me when I would get down to constantly, I think over, like, maybe the first, like, six months that we played, I got a combined, like, three kills. Like, I had not figured out to stick shooting, like, at all. And God bless them, because we just had fun. They didn't. Like, it was a crew of people that were kind of aligned where it's like, we just want to, like, hang out in play. Like, we don't really care about winning necessarily, to a degree. Or at least they downplayed it for me. God bless you.

[Greg Miller]

God bless you.

[Joanna]

So, yeah, that was the first time. Definitely took some time. And then, yeah, by the time Kevin and I started playing, it was like a. Every night we're playing, we're maxing out the battle pass. Like, what are all of our day? Like, all of these things and just really locked in for it. Plus, you have all of the fun cosmetics, all the holiday skins. And then, like, obviously now they've evolved into, like, so much more.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Do you ever kick tires anymore? Do you come back?

[Joanna]

So Lauren texted me, like, a week ago. I was like, new for new stuff. So I have it downloaded, but I haven't played probably in a year maybe. I think I've logged in occasionally to like pick up skins and stuff that I want. Haven't gotten the K pop Demon Hunter ones because I forgot. So I am still missing those and I still want those, but I feel like that's one that like I could pick up tomorrow and have.

[Greg Miller]

Oh yeah.

[Joanna]

Low barrier to reentry.

[Greg Miller]

Five days until you get that free Fortnite crew with Xbox game pass. Just a heads up, is that really

[Joey Barrett]

a thing worth the. When they upgrade $30 a month for

[Greg Miller]

that and more dollars though it's cheaper than getting the. I'm kidding around.

[Joanna]

I love it.

[Greg Miller]

What do you got next?

[Joanna]

We've got Neopets. Yeah, this one DDR and Carmen Sandiego were the ones that I was like, those are going to be like really hard. I feel like for somebody to try and guess right off the bat.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanna]

See, look. Look at these fun animations I added to mine.

[Greg Miller]

Only through Canva.

[Joanna]

Only through the power of Canva.

[Greg Miller]

Not sponsored but if you're listening Canva, why not?

[Joanna]

Yeah, Neopets was definitely the first like online game I played. I feel like every generation has one. There's the Club Penguins, there's a Webkins. Like they all kind of exist but it's the combination of message boardy kind of type interactions. Then you have all of the mini games that are in there and then there's like the Lore pieces too of like the Great Omelette and all of these things that like I still could not really give you probably like a cohesive story of like what Neopets is. But going in and like picking out what kind of like Neopet you wanted and then the colors and all of these and the accessories and the magical paintbrushes and all of these things, I feel like definitely was another different seed of the sim game.

[Greg Miller]

Sure, yeah, category.

[Joanna]

But just because I had never played like a web based game versus like something console. I don't even know how else you would categorize it. But yeah, the mini games and stuff like that. I feel like this is the first one too with like where I had to keep track of like scheduling and timers because you could only do things or were like and stuff like that. So I feel like this is the one that like brought me back to the PC that I had to keep up with.

[Greg Miller]

Made you the PC gamer you are.

[Joanna]

Yes, exactly. All my mouse and keyboard skills came from Neopets for sure. Nitrogen mustard. So Joey had to have played with Tamagotchis As a kid I was so serious about Tamagotchis. My dad went on a business trip to Japan, like right at the very beginning of it and brought one back for me. And it was pink and I thought I was the coolest person ever. And then my mom was so mad at me because I would make her watch it while I was at school. And she was like, it's not dying on my watch. Like, this is a lot of pressure. So it's a touchy subject in the Takagami.

[Greg Miller]

I have a feeling that's when Boana got thrown around.

[Joanna]

Definitely. And then. Yeah, we have Animal Crossing, New Horizon, New Leaf. I had dabbled in. I feel like I had played, but I had missed that like initial when

[Greg Miller]

it was a zeitgeist. Yeah.

[Joanna]

Yeah. So I played it later and I really liked it. But I. It was definitely. I mean, Animal Crossing New Horizons is such like an interesting game and time period to talk about of like we got it right. It was one of the last. The review was one of the last things recorded before COVID Yeah. And then we were at home all the time. Yeah. Everybody was excited and getting their switches. And even if you weren't excited for Animal Crossing, I feel like because we were all quarantined for the most part, it was.

[Joey Barrett]

It was the social hub.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Like such a long time that year in particular.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Like it was how you hung out with your friends.

[Joanna]

The thing and the way that people used it so creatively, obviously, like Gary Wida with Animal talking and all of these different things. I feel like it just became such like a core memory. I still think to this day, like it's the most amount of video game I've played in like the shortest amount of time. Because I. I played for solidly six months. I remember, like outrageous. I think I played a little bit. I played some of the holiday stuff after. But I think I got so burnt out because I played like 800 or almost 900 hours in those six months.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

So I was playing this like it was my full time job.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And so I think I burnt myself out on it. But I've gone back to it. Like obviously this year we streamed with Gia and I've got her on the train and stuff like that.

[Greg Miller]

Are you stoked about the January 15th update?

[Joanna]

Yes and no. I guess it'll kind of. We'll see when we get there how into it I'm feeling.

[Joey Barrett]

What's the added content besides like, oh, it looks better on Switch two.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, they're doing a Bunch of stuff. Yeah. There's a hotel now over on the dock that you can go in, and they're gonna have you make, you know, the. You design the hotel rooms on themes or whatever. Then there's gonna be dream islands. So, you know, rather than you can't make a new island because it's your island, you have to delete your thing. Now you can go to this dream space and make islands again there.

[Joey Barrett]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Like, now I want to make a city one. Now whatever you want to do. You know what I mean? Build it up that way. And there's a bunch of bells. There's Zelda outfits and stuff now with amiibos and whatnot.

[Joanna]

Like, yeah, I. I opened up multiplayer, right. To be more people.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, but I'll worry about that.

[Joey Barrett]

No, not a Nintendo game.

[Greg Miller]

I have, like, this. Like, I have a. I have a little flame where I'm like, ooh, I could go for more Animal Crossing. And I keep thinking, I'm like, don't turn it on until that day. Let's turn it on there. Let's go in. Let's see if we're actually going to redo our island.

[Joey Barrett]

Let's let, like, the year restart your kind of palate as well.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

So, yeah. So that's the Animal Crossing thing. The new Leaf coaster is just that cool. Greg saw it in, like, some video game store and he bought it for me.

[Greg Miller]

That's awesome.

[Joanna]

He was like, I know you like Animal Crossing, so I love it. And, like, New Leaf is the other one that I've put hours into. I haven't put any of the other ones. Diablo 3. Oh, yeah. You were close on here. I feel like Diablo.

[Greg Miller]

I just couldn't remember.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Did you.

[Greg Miller]

So did you come to Diablo with, like, Reaper Souls when it was like, piece or I'm gonna jump to console?

[Joanna]

No. So really probably what I should have put on here that I didn't is Minecraft Dungeons in this. We had so much fun, but I feel like they're very similar. And I think Minecraft Dungeons definitely put me on to Diablo. And then that's kind of where I really was like, oh, this is a genre that I've never played.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

That I really like. But just like, dungeon crawling and this along. I feel like this was fundamental in helping me understand destiny of, like, classes and abilities.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And then, yeah, I am blessed with a lot of really good friends in my life that play a lot of games. God bless you, Lauren, for walking me through this entire game because she had, like, platinumed and played every class and like maxed out everything.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

So I feel like I had like a really good experience because I think otherwise some of these games you walk into and you're like, if you don't

[Joey Barrett]

have a good guide for.

[Joanna]

If I've never played this before, I need help. So yeah, Diablo and like obviously one that I wouldn't have necessarily gravitated to as I was like showing the girls my thing there. Like it's so funny that your entire thing is like so bright and colorful and then you have Diablo and Destiny. Yeah, like these anchors on the side. So clearly it's the, the fun and sparkle and the colors that really drag me in. But if you have good gameplay then

[Greg Miller]

like that's what I love about you. Joey Demon hacker in the chat goes, Joey is the casual gamer representative for. Kind of funny. All companies need them. I don't agree. I mean, yes and no. Like again, Joey didn't dabble in Diablo or dabble in Destiny. Like Joey was all in, in Minecraft. Again these are talking about, I define this. Games that make up your gamer DNA. But you get into all sorts of stuff that are like real games, like whatever.

[Joey Barrett]

I, I, I kind of get what they're saying though. Cuz like there's so many casual gamers we know that like they have those couple where they just, they dive into.

[Joanna]

Right.

[Joey Barrett]

Like Alyssa has hundreds of hours in Starcraft 2. Which was like something I didn't learn until like a couple years into data here I was like, oh, I didn't realize that.

[Joanna]

And then your final one, my final one, Stardew Valley. This was like the first one when I came, what I call like came back to gaming.

[Greg Miller]

Like this is for me, this is always your prec to Animal Crossing where I was like, oh, she's gonna eat up a new Animal Crossing.

[Joanna]

Yeah, it was just like the indie darling. I, I think I don't even know why I picked it up. It must have just been that like people were talking about it and I had known from Neopets, from Viva Pinata that like I was probably gonna like this, but this was definitely the most intense version I had ever played of a sim game with like the time management and then you have dungeon crawling versus fire. Like it just had so many things. Still to this day I've never done any of the relationship stuff in there in my hierarchy of activities in a sim game. I'm always just like, I don't necessarily care about these people. Like let me, let me make my minds, let me design My farm. I do, I truly do. And yeah, it's the one that like I think I've bought the most. I've bought it on like like every single console, every platform. I have it on everything. I have so many different farms that like just depending on like the vibe that I want, I kind of do different things. So it's. I feel like that's the one that like all of these obviously are like. Well actually I don't necessarily think that but that's definitely like a desert island game and there's so much end game stuff that I've never touched. Like.

[Joey Barrett]

And like they've added like even more farm styles and stuff. Right.

[Joanna]

It's crazy to me that it's like developed by such a small team.

[Joey Barrett]

I. I think now working on another game now too.

[Joanna]

Exactly. Yeah. Like Concerned Ape has really supported this for a lot longer than I think anybody expected.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And I know that there's a lot of depth to it that I have not reached and probably never will probably to go back and like I guess so a desert island where I happen to have like my switch and a charger and yeah, problem. But yeah, that's the.

[Greg Miller]

That's a great list, Joey.

[Joanna]

Thank you.

[Greg Miller]

In the super chats. Memo in the notebook says hell yes Joey with the neopets on there 6 fuck.

[Joanna]

Lol.

[Greg Miller]

A great list there Joey. Thank you for doing that and sharing that with me. I mean I'm always happy to have you on Gamescast, have you on the streams. You're doing a good job.

[Joanna]

I have fun.

[Greg Miller]

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[Greg Miller]

And we're back, everyone. Thank you for sticking with us. It's time for Barrett's. And I don't want to waste a lot of time guessing because I know Barrett's gonna be both predictable and unpredictable. So like, on my my list, I had Bully, I had Batman, Arkham asylum, I had Persona 5, and then I put Donkey Kong 64. Yeah, but I'm not. It's like I don't.

[Joey Barrett]

Where's the meme start and end?

[Greg Miller]

Where's the truth and the beat begin? You know what I mean?

[Joanna]

I feel like there's definitely maybe Assassin's Creed representation.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly, exactly. Some kind of skate thing even. Whether it's skate or Tony Hawk, I'm not even sure. I feel like there'd be something there. Maybe. Okay, but I'm ready to see this.

[Joey Barrett]

All right, throw it out. Pull it up.

[Joanna]

Spongebob.

[Greg Miller]

I talked myself out of spongebob and I would have. I meant to say fucking psychonauts. So I would have lost that because of your list here. Grim Fandango. Barrett, real quick for the audio listeners, tell Them. What's on the list?

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, so in no particular order, we've got Batman, Arkham Asylum, Grim Fandango, SpongeBob SquarePants, Battle for Bikini Bottom, Bully, Cuphead, Donkey Kong 64, Chrono Trigger, the Legend of Zelda, a link to the past, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and Persona 5.

[Greg Miller]

This is a list of games, Barrett. So where do you want to start? Where do you dive in?

[Joey Barrett]

I think we have to dive in at the beginning, which would be. Not that one.

[Greg Miller]

Kevin will tell you where to dive in.

[Joey Barrett]

Chrono Trigger. This was a shout out to Brian and Jennifer, who were the younger siblings of my dad's girlfriend at the time. And my dad and his girlfriend at the time were both like waiters in the restaurant business. So they were busy a lot of the time. So I would hang out with. With her younger siblings, who introduced me to a lot of things very early on in life. They're the reasons why I watched Akira five years old.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Maybe a bit.

[Joanna]

Interesting timing.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, exactly. But also like Spirited Away and introduced me to. We'll talk about it in a little bit as well. But also Legend of Zelda. And Brian was particularly into JRPGs. And so it was kind of between Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 10 because those were both experiences that he shared with me and like we would play through together. And you know, that was one that was like the first inklings of me getting into our like, turn based RPGs. But it was really the. The stories that grabbed me from. From both of those, unless of the gameplay being that young. Right. But I remember the story for Chrono Trigger like really stuck with me. And it was one of those, you know, a game that I was debating on having here, that I ended up not having on here was Red Dead Redemption. In a similar fashion of like where Red Dead goes in terms of storytelling and how it does some like really fascinating things in terms of character perspective and changing perspectives. That was an early one for me for. For Chrono Trigger and where that story goes. And then also like, like, that was an early one for me of like having like actual animated cutscenes that were, you know, it was all like the. I'm blanking on his name. The. The artist who does like Dragon Ball and Sandland and stuff like that. Why am I blanking on his name right now? Google for you.

[Greg Miller]

But I'm not gonna be.

[Joey Barrett]

But like that was that like seeing that art style and like that being something like. I didn't really connect of like. Oh yeah. And this looks like Dragon Ball, but it was one of those, like everybody else I knew was like into that kind of stuff. So there's a little bit of like anime kind of like inspiration bringing me in there as well. And so that was one that like, I really adored because it kind of, at a very young age, kind of showed me what stories could be in video games alongside Final Fantasy 10. Like, I, you know, like some of the, like the cutscene after you face the main antagonist in Final Fantasy 10 will kind of be seared into my brain forever. Insane. With a very pivotal moment with Chrono in, in Chrono Trigger. So that's, that's a very early one. And in the similar vein, the Legend of Zelda, a Link to the Past. That was a. I knew Zelda had to be on here, but I, it was like, you know, I, I love all of the future ones, but like a Link to the Past was very much the beginning of this obsession with this series for me. More so than Ocarina of Time. Like, you know, Ocarina of Time early on was, you know, playing around in the jungle gym areas and staying as like Kid Link. But Link to the Past was very much of being obsessed with actually progressing to get to the Dark World and going on this like, big adventure that design wise as a kid, like, you feel like you're going out on this like big adventure making your own decisions, but it's smartly guiding you through this thing that makes it feel like your own. And with both of those games too, that like, like, really cemented my love for like pixel art. And like whenever we get to see that stuff, like Live Today and like the HD 2D kind of kind of stuff, like, and that's why it's like bring Chrono Trigger back, you know, Another one.

[Greg Miller]

Shocking that they haven't done more with that.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, yeah. Link to the Past is insane says D. I. I disagree. Link to the Past. Every Zelda game after Link to the Past is just, just trying to do Link to the Past again. Ocarina of time, just a 3D.

[Greg Miller]

Well, I think you meant it Positively Pass is Insane. So is Chrono Trigger. Love this list. Yay. Like, like it's a great game. What did you think? Just as an aside, what I like for me, a Link to the Past I'd played and didn't appreciate when I had my clamshell GBA because I was such an Ocarina Majora fan. That's where I entered it. But stick with me. This isn't Even the question, yeah, I need to go back and replay it probably, but what did you think of Link Between Worlds? Because I really loved that, but I didn't have the love for past.

[Joey Barrett]

I adored Link Between Worlds when it came out, and then when I revisited it for Zelda in review, I was a little bit cooler on it. But I think the design of Link Between Worlds in terms of. I think that is the kind of. Of first big stepping stone for us to get to Breath of the Wild and going back to kind of the design ethos of the original Legend of Zelda of choosing whichever dungeon you want in whatever order. Once you get to that, like, after you get past those, like, first three dungeons, and then it really opens up. Like, I thought that was a really smart way to make that style feel fresh and obviously, like the art style I really adored for the. The 3Ds. But yeah, link to the Past, like, that. That is one that's just like. Like, I. I love that world. I love that story. Like, I also still own the Link to the Past comic, which to me is like, in my brain. Even though Link doesn't have a personality, has no voice like, that Link is like, what I think of when I think of Link. Like a true, like, kind of like Luke Skywalker interpretation of. Of Link, where it's like this kind of apprehensive hero type of situation.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to sidetrack you.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And so. So to go from there, honestly,

[Joanna]

I

[Joey Barrett]

think we got to go. Grim Fandango next. This is another, like, big important story and world situation that, like, really brought me into, like, appreciating fun and goofy stories and art styles. Right. This pulled me in because of the almost like Nickelodeon Cartoon Network vibes that it had and obviously having no idea who it was made by not knowing the history of the point and click adventure games and how insane they get with their puzzles. Like, this is one. As a kid, I definitely, if I ever finish it, I don't have a clear memory as, like a kid. Like, I definitely went back when it got remastered and it really cemented, like, going back, it's like one of my favorite games of all time. But if I ever finish it, it must have been with Brian or Jennifer. And they're helping me with, like, some of the puzzles and probably on my own, I'm stuck in that, like, first level, which is the, what is it, like, the Day of the Dead kind of celebration. But there's just, like, such a great vibe and, like, writing style that always pulled me in even as a kid of just like some of the. Just like, nonchalant humor and then like the. The music as well. Just like, so cool and just like, paying homage to like, the. What's like those kind of like 1930s, like, style or like 40s, like movies.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Like noir type of vibes and just like, how creative and weird they got with, like, all of their stuff, which is why it. Like being a kid who grew up with Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network in like, the. The 90s and 2000s, that's another aspect of what really pulled me in. And then it's funny. Yeah. Like, not knowing that this was Tim Schaefer directed and led and all this stuff, and then years and years later falling in love with Psychonauts. And that's a cool.

[Greg Miller]

I like that connection, that DNA.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And that was one where. The first time I met Tim Schaefer, I was working at IGN and we were doing a. We did a series where Alana would interview directors of games while they would play the game and talk about level design and, you know, inspirations and all that stuff. And I remember we had, like, Bruce Straley in to play a little bit of Last of Us 1. And then Tim Schaefer came in for Psychonauts. And this was before I was even into Psychonauts, but at that point I had learned, like, oh, this is the guy who made Grim Fandango. So I was outside afterwards and he was waiting for his Uber. I. I think I was coming back from, like, lunch or something like that. And I. I got to say, like, hey, I'm big fan of Grim Fandango. Thank you so much for making that game. It's like, oh, cool, man. See you later.

[Greg Miller]

And I still get call whenever we want.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And I still get chills whenever I. Whenever I see him, because I've met him a couple of times since then. I remember being very nervous to ask him to design my Psychonauts 2 art book like, a year or two ago whenever he was last in office. So then we go from there to Donkey Kong 64. Of course, that's a. That's a memory seared into my brain, similar to the Pokemon Mansion pack included.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, that was a big deal, Joe.

[Joey Barrett]

Similar to the Pokemon Go. Having the blue N64 with the Pokemon Pokeball memory seared into my brain was getting the see through translucent green N64 with this game for Christmas.

[Joanna]

Bring back translucent technology 100%.

[Joey Barrett]

And this is like, this is a game that, you know, like, my dad also, like, loves Nintendo games. This is one that we still like go back to and talk about all the time. And, and you know, I gave him like he has my old Wii U because that's like the one way you could play Donkey Kong 64 now. We just love like the, that world and the, the vibes that I know technically probably Banjo is probably the better games. Yeah, we're talking about your DNA. This was my Grant Kirkhobe soundtrack. Right. Like this was, these were our characters. Like the, the worlds that you went into for all of these levels and the, the goofy enemies that you would fight. Like that was, that was a special shared love between my dad and I that we still share to this day. I wouldn't talk about, you know, how great the, the blueprint design is where you have to find all these blueprints for the final level. The more blueprints you have, Joey, the longer time you get to beat the final level as blueprints. You have like only 10 minutes to beat that like final level before the final boss and then the final boss being this boxing match with King K Rool which you know, might have been paid homage to in a, in a recent game. Right. And so yeah, I, I love that group of characters. It is a meme, but it is also very much like a shared love of recognizing not the best designs game, but I, I truly adore it. Then skipping ahead, you know, I was always kind of like I felt like behind on stuff and I think the PS2 generation because like I had a Super Nintendo while the N64 was popping off. I don't think I got that donkey Kong 64, n 64 until the GameCube had already been out for like a year or so.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Joey Barrett]

And so the PS2 was the first generation where I, I was actually like playing stuff as it was coming out. And so I had spongebob squarepants battle for bikini bottom kind of be my big representation for not just IP games but like just things I was into. Like your Star Wars Battlefront too, but also kind of your Tony Hawks. Like this was an era of, of yeah, me as a gamer were I wasn't playing video games because I liked video games. I was playing stuff that like, oh, I like this show.

[Greg Miller]

I like this ip.

[Joey Barrett]

Oh, we skateboard all the time in our neighborhood and now there's like a skateboarding game where we can do a bunch of insane tricks and stuff. And so that's another one where that's like kind of all encompassing of an era for me, but also I think cemented of like after your DK64 cementing of like, my love of 3D platformers, which is like grown and grown and grown ever since then. And going back to battle for Bikini Bottom once it got its remake back in like 2020 of just like. Yeah, man, I love this. I love exploring Bikini Bottom, you know, having that kind of interconnected. Yeah. And going to all these iconic locations. Like. Yeah, I. I truly adore that. That's kind of that big representation there. And then Bully is, you know, like, that's. That's my Rock Star game. I'm not into a lot of Rockstar Rockstar games, honestly. But like, especially like growing up with like being a huge Harry Potter head as like a kid, you always wanted that experience of like being able to play a game where you like, you have like the full school experience. Right.

[Joanna]

And boarding school had like, such like a allure to it.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

I'm like, probably wasn't that great, but

[Greg Miller]

you romanticize it for.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, so much fiction did. Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And like that just like. And that's one that I've appreciated more like, growing up. This is like, it. Making fun of like all of these different groups of like the greasers kind of making fun of like that era of.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

Like, like movies and like, kind of making fun of different eras of like high school centric movies and tropes and. Yeah, that. That just kind of being like this fully lived in sim experience where it's like adding in the school stuff and you deciding like, well, I'm not gonna go back to the dorms. I'm gonna go live in my like, weird little hideout that I unlocked by beating up all the preps and all that stuff. Like, there's just something to that element. And it being like more of a small town vibe, I think is. Is something that was way more appealing to me than any like, other like Grand Theft Auto or what have you at the time growing up. And then we. I think our last three here, right. We'll go to Batman, Arkham Asylum, which I've talked about in my back. Yeah, it was, you know, like, like for a couple years after, you know, you get your bully, which shout out. I named the dog that we got when I was in high school after the character Zoe. And that's. That's where she got her name. Was that. That character from Bully? But anyways, for Arkham Asylum, that was the game that really got me back into thinking about video games and playing video games for video game sake and less IP sake. I got it because I was into the ip being a huge Batman fan. But this was a time in my life where I was only really playing rock band every once in a while. Maybe escape, but. But I had, like, so many other different interests that were pulling me away. And Arkham Asylum was one of those first, like, experiencing a Metroidvania and really, like, understanding of, like, oh, like, game design and how smart and fun that can be. Like being trapped on this island and getting this slow unveiling of how you can unlock all these different paths. And then it just being a really fun Batman adventure with a really bad final boss fight.

[Greg Miller]

Never forget. Never let him off the hook.

[Joey Barrett]

But, like, dude, like, the first time doing that Scarecrow. That first Scarecrows sequence was so good. So good. You know, hearing Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy come back was just like a dream come true, you know, like, related to that first Scarecrow sequence where Joker's teasing. Scarecrow being around the corner. He's like, what are your greatest fears, Batman? Like, you not catching me in time. Uh, the Gotham City, uh, falling to pieces, me in a thong. And it was just like, God, the writing here. And, you know, the. The chemistry that Hamill had with. With Conroy was just magnificent. And I love that they were able to go all out with that while at the same time me starting to realize of, like, oh, video games. Really cool. Yeah. And then our final two. Really? Or no, actually, we got three more. Yeah. Mario Kart 8. Mario Kart's always been a part of my life. 8 is the one that I've put the most amount of time into and probably is my most played game.

[Greg Miller]

What is the status? What do you know what number?

[Joey Barrett]

I mean? It was that weird thing when we moved over to Switch two. We lost all that. So I. I would guess in the five to six hundred hours around there, Battlefront, the original Battlefront 2 is probably up there as well. But that is one that I. I just. I love the velocity of it, you know, like, how it really feels like this. A bit more Grand Prix and grand tourism. I don't know, like, one of those, like, more professional, like, like, kind of things.

[Greg Miller]

The races are racist and there's this idea.

[Joey Barrett]

Then World was right, and I think World coming out, making me appreciate 8 more of what 8 was offering.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

And that is one that just like, that was my. That's been my comfort game for years and years and years where it's like we have something on the tv. I'm just gonna mindlessly play this and go and try to. 3 star 200cc for the hundredth time. Haven't gone back to it since World came out. Haven't been in the mood to. To get back into it.

[Joanna]

But that.

[Joey Barrett]

That'll be one that I go back to just to reminisce.

[Greg Miller]

Love that.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Joey Barrett]

And then we've got Cuphead. I think Cuphead is, I think the. The first seed of me getting into really tough games.

[Greg Miller]

I was going to say, like, that

[Joey Barrett]

punishment, right, that I was assigned Cuphead for IGN of doing Capture four. And there's that viral clip of that from that one site of someone trying to do the tutorial of Cuphead Takahashi from Games be. Yeah. And there is a lot of pressure put on me of don't be that guy. Don't. Your gameplay has to be really good. And so, like, I was sure.

[Greg Miller]

I know.

[Joey Barrett]

And so me not playing difficult games like this before, I really had to lock in. And that was. Cuphead was a game that I was anticipating for years just because of the art style and them bringing something that felt so new and fresh for a video game. And so that was one that I really had to. That was my first, like, I gotta get good at this kind of kind of game where now I'm playing Elden Rings. And, you know, it seems like a

[Joanna]

perfect crossover between those kinds of games and the platformers.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah, exactly. And so, like, the platforming stuff and like the cartoony stuff, I was. I was really already into, but getting into that kind of, you know, different style, it being a bit more bullet heli. But that was one where, you know, I think I was one of the first people to unlock the black and white mode for that game. And like, trying to figure out, like, how do you even unlock that and like, all of the difficult, like, hoops that you had to jump through to do that, like, that was. That'll be a special place in time. And, you know, I. I still apologize to Andy to this day of like, bringing. I had to bring that Xbox home from the. The office to play through the. The weekend to try to beat every platforming level without killing anybody, which is just like the most, I think, still probably the most difficult thing I've done to this game day in a game.

[Greg Miller]

So wait, why'd you apologize to Andy for? We scream.

[Joey Barrett]

Screaming. I was screaming a lot. That it was. There were a lot of F bombs that week. So a big apology.

[Joanna]

Andy, someone who never screams play video games.

[Joey Barrett]

And then around that same time, Persona 5, you know, I have the royal version on here. Just because that added story content that I. I think like solidifies that as like one of my favorite games of all time, but that being a.

[Joanna]

A world

[Joey Barrett]

and story that I adore to this day and characters that I think of as not actual longtime friends, but when I think about their journey and their character arcs, it's one of those like, damn, it feels like home

[Joanna]

for comforting for sure.

[Joey Barrett]

Yeah. And the stuff that Royal added, in particular the things I was disappointed in the base game being stuff like a catchy and all that Royal really cemented and brought through and solidified kind of the core themes and ideas and flipped them on its head in a way that like really cemented as like one of my favorite stories in video games. And i3 is still my favorite, but 5 is the one that got me into this series and, you know, brought me to this trajectory of not just being into this world, but being more open to trying other games like this.

[Joanna]

So that's what I got. That's a great Barrett list. I feel like you can definitely see all those tendrils in like the other games that you gravitate towards and stuff and talk about.

[Greg Miller]

Memo in the notebooks did super chat and said, holy fuck, Barrett, you picked gold BFB.

[Joey Barrett]

He likes go to 3D platformer.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

There you go. Ladies, gentlemen and enbies, we're gonna stop the show there. That's right. Cool Greg's list is not being revealed today. We are going to save it. I have penciled in, you know how the schedule goes around here right now.

[Joey Barrett]

Wow.

[Greg Miller]

Tuesday, November 25th, our final one before Thanksgiving. I put the 10 games that define kind of funny and we could do Cool Greg there as well. And then also we go through with you and pick the games that define us as a company, everybody. Because there's too much to do today. You gotta do the Running man interview, you gotta do the stream. It's gonna be a lot of fun and I'm not gonna sneeze no matter what. All right, Greg.

[Joey Barrett]

Don't give in.

[Greg Miller]

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