Grading the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct - Kinda Funny Gamescast

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Kinda Funny Gamescast: Grading the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct – Detailed Summary

Release Date: April 2, 2025

The Kinda Funny Gamescast hosts—Greg "GameOverGreggy" Miller, Blessing Adeoye, Andy Cortez, and Snowbike Mike—delve deep into the revelations from the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct in this episode. The discussion spans hardware upgrades, pricing strategies, game lineups, and new features introduced with the Switch 2, providing listeners with comprehensive insights and varied perspectives.

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1. Introduction and Overview

The episode kicks off with Greg Miller setting the stage, explaining that the team has just concluded a live reaction to the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct and is now transitioning into the post-show discussion.

• Greg Miller [00:07]: "This is the Kinda Funny gamescast. Each and every weekday we talk to you about the biggest topics in video games."

2. Nintendo Switch 2 Pricing and Launch Details

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the pricing of the Nintendo Switch 2 and its launch details.

• Greg Miller [03:26]: "Nintendo Switch 2 launches June 5th at $449.99."

• Andy Cortez [04:17]: "I'm not surprised by the extra $50, especially with everything getting more expensive with tariffs."

The hosts express mixed feelings about the $450 price point, acknowledging the economic factors influencing Nintendo's decision while contemplating its impact on consumers.

• Snowbike Mike [05:51]: "I'm on board. 449 sounds right to me."

3. Hardware Upgrades and Specifications

The team marvels at the enhanced specifications of the Switch 2, highlighting features like the 120Hz screen, improved CPU and GPU, larger internal storage, and upgraded controllers.

• Andy Cortez [05:01]: "Can't believe that they went that deep into it. We'll get all into all that later, but still kind of shocked that we see 120 hertz on the screen."

• Cat Bailey [09:24]: "The screen is a lot better than I thought. I think it really is."

The introduction of back buttons on the Pro Controller and mouse controls are particularly celebrated as significant improvements.

• Greg Miller [10:09]: "It's the first controller from any of the big three that has the back buttons as the default."

4. Game Lineup and Exclusive Titles

A diverse array of exclusive titles is announced, with FromSoftware's "The Duskbloods" and various beloved franchises making their mark on the Switch 2.

• Andy Cortez [02:51]: "A exclusive Nintendo game directed by Miyazaki. Yeah, I could not have predicted."

Mario Kart World receives extensive discussion, with excitement around its new features like the interconnected environment, Knockout Tour mode, and Free Roam.

• Greg Miller [16:10]: "Put the pedal to the metal in Mario Kart World. Brand new experience set in a vast interconnected environment."

Donkey Kong Bonanza and other titles such as "Kirby Air Riders" and "Metroid Prime 4" are also spotlighted, emphasizing their significance in revitalizing key characters and franchises.

• Greg Miller [106:50]: "Donkey Kong Bonanza, a brand new 3D platforming action adventure available exclusively on Nintendo Switch 2."

5. New Features: Game Chat and Game Share

Nintendo introduces innovative features like Game Chat, enabling voice communication directly through the handheld device, and Game Share, allowing users to share games seamlessly with others.

• Glenn Barrett [34:02]: "You can share games with other people from the Nintendo Switch 2... Very cool."

Game Chat is met with enthusiasm for its potential to enhance multiplayer experiences, though some hosts express skepticism about its integration and functionality.

• Andy Cortez [28:46]: "120 frames is a huge deal."

6. Nintendo Switch Online Enhancements

The Switch 2 Online service sees upgrades with the inclusion of a GameCube library exclusive to the Online Expansion Pass, offering classic titles to subscribers.

• Greg Miller [86:11]: "Wind Waker, Soul Calibur 2, and F0GX will be included in the Nintendo Switch 2 Online Expansion Pass."

Hosts discuss the implications of these additions, pondering compatibility issues and the value proposition for existing Switch Online members.

7. Third-Party Support and Partnerships

Nintendo showcases robust third-party support, announcing titles from prominent developers and publishers, signaling a strengthened relationship with the broader gaming community.

• Greg Miller [78:00]: "Elden Ring Tarnished Edition... coming exclusively to Nintendo Switch 2."

This collaboration is viewed as a positive shift, addressing past concerns about third-party exclusivity and performance on Nintendo platforms.

8. Pricing Concerns and Industry Impact

A recurring theme is the elevated pricing of games ($80 for digital editions) and hardware, sparking debates on affordability and the broader industry trend towards higher-priced games.

• Cat Bailey [23:13]: "Digital games on The Nintendo Switch 2 are now $80. That's pricey."

• Greg Miller [121:27]: "Nintendo knows what's happening. They're setting expectations. It's going to..."

The hosts consider the potential ripple effects on competitors like PlayStation and Xbox, speculating on whether this move will set a new standard in game pricing.

9. Additional Announcements and Titles

Beyond the main titles, several other games and features are introduced, including remastered classics, new IPs, and collaborations with notable franchises.

• Greg Miller [76:33]: "Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition was announced and shown. It will be a launch day game for the Nintendo Switch 2."

• Barrett Courtney [94:24]: "Hitman World of Assassination was confirmed to be a launch game."

These announcements highlight Nintendo's commitment to offering a varied and appealing game library for the Switch 2.

10. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the Switch 2 Direct's overall impact, balancing excitement for new features and game lineups against concerns over increased costs.

• Andy Cortez [113:07]: "This has hit a different air around us as we wrap up here."

• Snowbike Mike [115:12]: "Presentation was outstanding, but I'm feeling good about the games."

They acknowledge the challenges Nintendo faces in navigating pricing strategies while striving to deliver compelling content, ultimately expressing optimism for the Switch 2's reception.

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Notable Quotes Highlight

• Greg Miller [03:26]: "Nintendo Switch 2 launches June 5th at $449.99."

• Andy Cortez [06:24]: "The most. 10 out of 10 masterpiece."

• Cat Bailey [09:24]: "The screen is a lot better than I thought. I think it really is."

• Snowbike Mike [17:38]: "I think it's gonna be great for families as well."

• Greg Miller [23:13]: "Digital games on The Nintendo Switch 2 are now $80. That's pricey."

• Andy Cortez [106:06]: "From Software, is making a multiplayer Switch 2 exclusive called the Duskbloods."

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Final Thoughts

The Kinda Funny team presents a balanced analysis of the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct, celebrating the technological advancements and robust game lineup while critically examining the implications of higher pricing. Their insightful discussions offer listeners a nuanced understanding of Nintendo's strategic direction and its potential impact on the gaming landscape.

Transcript

[Andy Cortez]

Foreign.

[Greg Miller]

What'S up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Wednesday, April 2, 2025. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller alongside no one at the moment of course. This is a very special games cast. We have been live for the past hour plus reacting to the Nintendo Switch to reveal the direct to end all directs. And of course when we end that we go right into the gamescast post show. So I said everybody get your coffees, go to the bathroom. I can kick this off and remind everybody that this is the Kinda Funny gamescast. Each and every weekday we talk to you about the biggest topics in video games. Reviews, previews, things we need to talk about. We do it here on YouTube.com kinda funnygames, twitch tv, kindafunnygames and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, go ahead and pick up that Kinda Funny membership. Of course the Kinda Funny membership gets all of our shows. That's more than 80amonth A.D. free. And of course you get your daily dose of me, Greg Miller and a one on one podcast series I do called Greg Way. I guess it's one on zero but it's one on million. I talk alone. It's just me talking. Don't worry about it. Of course, no bucks tossed away, no big deal. Like subscribe, share wherever you're getting this platform in this podcast. Remember of course if you have Amazon prime you have Twitch prime which is a free 30 day sub to give to the gifter of your or a sub channel of your choice.

[Snowbike Mike]

Remember don't forget that if you have Amazon prime you have Twitch Prime.

[Greg Miller]

It doesn't auto renew so you need to set a reminder they don't want you to remember you have that benefit if you are hanging out with us live right now. YouTube.com kindafunnygames get your super Chats in To be part of this show we're gonna want your reviews of the Nintendo Switch Direct your reviews and questions about The Nintendo Switch 2, what you thought of Mario Kart, what you thought of Donkey Kong. There's a lot to cover and we will be doing that for quite some time before of course Gary Whitta comes with Paris Lily to do your one and only Kinda Funny Games daily. After that it's gonna be extra long Pokemon stream to celebrate Nintendo. So a lot of good stuff. You will be getting a Kind of Funny Membership exclusive Greg Way of course when I'm done with all of this and I can do that. So look forward to that. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Anatoly Ast Delaney Twining, Carl Jacobs and Omega Buster. Today we're brought to you by Lost Skies, Monaco 2 and Rocket Money. But we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Andy, you've done it. You've lived the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct. And I would be a fool to ask you what was the best thing you saw because I assume you're going to nerd out about this FromSoftware game the Duskbloods. Great name. Great name.

[Andy Cortez]

A exclusive Nintendo game directed by Miyazaki. Yeah, I. I could not have predicted. You could not have said anything more wild than that to me.

[Greg Miller]

What if. Yeah, what if this morning I had said that to you? Like, I heard this. I heard this rumor.

[Andy Cortez]

That's absolutely insane.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Hollow Knight Sil Song being in a. In a super cut. Unbelievable. Th. This is. This is insane. I. I couldn't tell because of the art direction initially on. It didn't have the makings and looks of.

[Greg Miller]

Can I interrupt you?

[Andy Cortez]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

I have a press release. I have breaking news for my press release.

[Andy Cortez]

Holy shit.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo Switch 2 launches June 5th at 449. 99. There you go, everybody. 449.

[Andy Cortez]

Greg Tip said I was crazy.

[Greg Miller]

You know what he also said?

[Barrett Courtney]

Definitely beer.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

That's a different conversation. That's a different conversation about what's happening over there. Yes. For official press Release here from Nintendo 449.99. We will make sure we update all of our panelists as they make their way back in here. And there is so much to dig through. You're happy with that price?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I was thinking 399. I was pretty confident in 399.

[Andy Cortez]

399 would have been lovely. Obviously. I think. I am not surprised by the extra 50, especially with everything getting more expensive with tariffs. I'm not surprised by that at all. That's what I said when we were predicting it. They called me a madman and I.

[Greg Miller]

Called you a man.

[Andy Cortez]

Tim was like. Tim was like, you're crazy is what he told me.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

He did that. Like, you're crazy.

[Greg Miller]

And why is he like that?

[Andy Cortez]

I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

Why doesn't he just.

[Andy Cortez]

And I was like, the only reason it's crazy to me is that it's not a round, pretty looking number.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

449 is just a kind of odd for a starting. Just visually, aesthetically, you know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, of course.

[Andy Cortez]

But it just made sense to me with how I also think they take it as A nice excuse to just go like, look, things are crazy, man.

[Greg Miller]

Listen, we tried. It's awesome. And again, it's such an easy ad. I'm like, listen, we tried.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, tack on 50 bucks. I'm not, I'm not surprised by that. I think if it were anything over 500, I would have been kind of like, oh, that's. That's wild. But this makes sense to me. I super stoked by all the specifications we saw.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Can't believe that they went that deep into it. We'll get all into all that later, obviously, but still kind of shocked that we see 120 hertz on the screen. Like the fact that they're even showing off information like that just feels so anti Nintendo. And I'm happy that it happened anyway because I. I'm a nerd for that shit. This is super exciting.

[Greg Miller]

Cat. I don't know if you saw that. 4.49.99.

[Cat Bailey]

4.49.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. 450. Is that the bundle that there's no, man, I'm. I'm getting this information live. And no, that is not the bundle. According to what I'm seeing. I. I quickly went through trying to find if they have a bundle price in here, but it does not look.

[Cat Bailey]

That's not the Mario version, but it's 499.

[Greg Miller]

Wow. The bundle is for.

[Andy Cortez]

That's a Toby Blue says.

[Greg Miller]

I mean Toby Blue. I can, I can trust 449.

[Cat Bailey]

So more expensive than people thought.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah. Mike, how's that sit with you? 449. 99 for the Nintendo Switch to.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know what? They showed off the goods. They showed the upgrades that I wanted. They impressed me in certain areas. They. You know, it's worth it. 449 sounds right to me. I'm on board.

[Greg Miller]

We are of course going to run through this announcement by announcement, game by game news tidbit by news tidbit. But of course, this is the kind of funny gamescast where we go through and give these review scores we do want to know on the kind of funny review scale, patented scale, 20 point scale. What do we think of this one? I'm going to start with you, Andy cortez.

[Andy Cortez]

The most. 10 out of 10 masterpiece.

[Greg Miller]

10 out of 10.

[Andy Cortez]

10 out of 10 masterpiece.

[Greg Miller]

Wow.

[Andy Cortez]

You cannot show off an exclusive Miyazaki led from soccer game that came out of nowhere and have it not be a 10 out of 10. Of course, Hollow knight being in the super. In the super cut and the, you know, just a little small cameo. Just dropping it in Cat Bailey calling it immediately as it popped up. You know this would have been an 11 out of 10. Like Mike's hype level for this. This would have been 11 if we got any sort of look at a new Zelda or whatever. I guess I expected Mario Odyssey but. Or a Mario sequel. Having that DK thing looks phenomenal. Super stoked too to see how that looks. And again the just everything they showed off spec wise. 4k 60 or 1080p120 as options. Absolutely wild. Stunning. I am so stoked, dude. Metroid Prime 4 with a keyboard mouse or not keyboard mouse but you know what I mean Mouse.

[Greg Miller]

Could we're call it keyboard mouse. That's fine. They were fine with that.

[Andy Cortez]

I'm just ecstatic right now man. Very, very happy.

[Greg Miller]

Snowbike Mike, you're. You've never been known as the biggest Nintendo fan or Switch fan. What did you. What would you give this?

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm going to give this a nine out of. It was amazing. This was a very, very good presentation. The Nintendo Switch 2 did kind of wow me. Not super wow but like it impressed me with the specs that I wanted to see from this. In today's age of all these next gen consoles they showed off the games which is what I was really impressed with. They have a strong third party support system right now especially at launch which is what I want when I jump into a new console for this price. I want to make sure I have the games ready to rock and roll. And yeah. I mean nothing beats a cool Donkey Kong Hyrule Warriors I'm into. I. I've been really loving Dynasty warriors so I'm excited to jump into that. There were some things that didn't impress me right. That the communication social hub wasn't wowing in 20 camera.

[Greg Miller]

You don't want to get the camera.

[Snowbike Mike]

That. That is why I'm not going to give it a 10 out of 10. I think this interesting social hub is fun. It's cool maybe for families and friends but I think in 2025 this isn't wowing us like it did with the Nintendo Switch 1. Where you go oh my gosh, Nintendo is really doing something here. How do you improve on greatness? It's tough, it's difficult. I get it. But an amazing conference nonetheless. It was a lot of fun before.

[Greg Miller]

I get your review score, Kat. And it is on the big screen. Which Bear can throw back up. If you don't know our review scale which I appreciate. It also is in this press release pre orders to start in North America on April 9th. So we are correct. Yeah. One week from birthday.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, happy birthday. Really quick. No snaps. Like we had the snap sound, but nobody.

[Greg Miller]

Nobody did the snap. Yeah, of course. Of course. Cat Bailey. Of course. You are from Acts of the Blood God podcast. Thank you so much. You're a big Nintendo fan. What would you rate this Nintendo Switch Direct?

[Cat Bailey]

9.75. Is that.

[Greg Miller]

We don't do that. We do 0.5.

[Andy Cortez]

We could do 9.5.

[Greg Miller]

You do whatever you want. You're the guest.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah. I'll give it a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10.

[Greg Miller]

A masterpiece.

[Cat Bailey]

It answered a lot of questions for me and I think 120fps is low key. Really awesome.

[Greg Miller]

Insane. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

The screen is a lot better than I thought. I went and going. I don't know if the screen is. It's just enough of an upgrade. And I think it really is. And we were kind of expecting what an Xbox series s equivalent. But on Nintendo Switch, I think that's good enough. Generally speaking.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Cat Bailey]

I think the game lineup was awesome. Oh my gosh. I mean, getting a fromsoftware game is a huge surprise. Brand new too. And directed by Miyazaki. All due respect to some of the folks that work under him, I always thought he was kind of a little too busy these days to do anything but the really big ones.

[Greg Miller]

So this is a really big one. Apparently.

[Cat Bailey]

I assumed a timed exclusive, but bringing the goods right there.

[Greg Miller]

That's what I mean. Giving people a reason, right? To believe in the Switch and believe in the third party support. Yeah, for sure.

[Andy Cortez]

Pro controller with back buttons. Oh my God.

[Greg Miller]

Insane, right?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And think about that too. It's the first, like I would say, I mean, I guess kind of. It's optional, but it's the first like controller from any of the big three, that is. Hey, we have the back buttons as the default. This isn't the Elite. This isn't an upgrade. This isn't something that's coming later. This is. You can get it right now and go with it.

[Andy Cortez]

I guess they call it a pro, but you know. But still. I'm with you.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Cat Bailey]

More expensive than expected.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. 449.

[Cat Bailey]

A little bit light on the storage capacity. Like I think the Steam deck that I bought was literally double than that, for example. So I did spend a lot more money on it. And. But on the flip. And no smash in this one.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Which I guess was kind of expected. Smash didn't come around until the year after. And Sakurai Is seemingly busy. And you know what I'm gonna give you, Sakurai of anybody deserves a lot of grace. So please go follow your bliss. Go make Kirby writers, whatever they'll let you do. Put a Switch 2 version of Smash ultimate out there is kind of all I ask, really. And that's got to be comic and melee on gamecube. Gamecube NSO is a big deal for me personally. I do have questions for that, but we can get to that later.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Cat Bailey]

And the mouse is really cool. Yeah, yeah, the mouse and key pad or mouse and Switch, whatever for Prime 4. Really cool.

[Greg Miller]

One of the things I want to argue myself, I said first controller, that would have it right. But not an elite or something like that. Of course, as we predicted, you can use your Nintendo Switch Pro controller, your Joy cons, et cetera, from your Switch one with your Switch two. So I guess technically then this would be an upgraded version of the Switch 2. I've printed off for everybody the official press release here from Nintendo, which is a bible of information on all the games as we continue to dig through it, run through it. For my money, I would say that this is a 9.5 out of 10.

[Cat Bailey]

Hey, you can't do that.

[Greg Miller]

I can. I can. I just did it. Just did it.

[Barrett Courtney]

We do 0.5.

[Greg Miller]

We do 0.5. Yeah. Not point. That's where I was getting you. That's where I was getting you.

[Cat Bailey]

Can I change my five as well?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Nobody's locked in.

[Snowbike Mike]

I want to get 9.5 too. Then.

[Greg Miller]

He's crazy.

[Andy Cortez]

He's feeling crazy.

[Greg Miller]

It's 7am you know what I mean? Like, I think again, like, this is always so difficult to get all this information out there about it. I think, you know, especially for Nintendo, who is classically bad at really delivering this. When they went into the breakdown, here's what the Switch 2 is, and it was that polished package of this, that this blah, blah, blah. And then the game lineup, yeah, I thought was really impressive. Even when we got to okay, oh, it's gonna be Mario. Oh, it's Donkey Kong. I was immediately like, I'm not a big Donkey Kong guy. Watching that trailer, I'm like, I gotta play this. This looks awesome. Tearing apart the world, tearing apart all the stuff. Then just the action in there, like that looked incredible. And if that's going to deliver on what it looks to me like a Mario, right? And if it's going to be that kind of experience, but obviously so different because it's Donkey Kong, I'm all about that. Let alone everything we saw before. Let alone, yeah, Nintendo Switch 2 Enhanced Editions, which we will talk about of how we feel about what they're going to price that at. Maybe that's in here as well. I haven't had the chance to dig through this in an entire way. A really, really amazing showcase, I think, from Nintendo to set the bar for what they're doing here. And even though I wanted 399 for this, I'm not mad at 450. You know what I mean? I think again, it speaks to, of course, yeah, tariffs and everything else and what's going to happen here. But I can do 450 no problem for what they're talking about, what they're selling here.

[Cat Bailey]

A lot of people weren't expecting. A lot of people thought, well, okay, Nintendo is doing a lot of their manufacturing in Vietnam, so they might be able to get around the tariffs and stuff like that. But 450, I guess, is kind of expected. Everything has just been getting more expensive in general, so sadly. But by. If you compare it to a lot of the dedicated handhelds out there, PC handhelds, it's not that bad ultimately.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. Mike, are you happy with 450?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, I'm happy with 450. I think that falls right in line in the console market.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Snowbike Mike]

I don't think you can be too mad at that. I know we want it on the cheaper side of things coming off the Switch one compared to, you know, Sony and Xbox. But where I'm at right now, when I look at the Series X as you brought up in the Series S, I'm happy with where this is kind of putting itself. And, yeah, it's the next generation of Nintendo. I think things are all going up in the world. So 50 increase is not killing me and not hurting my heart there on that one.

[Greg Miller]

All right, everybody, then it's time to start wading through all of this information. Of course. Chad, I see you out there popping off. I like that. I did want your reviews, as I asked at the top, immediately. Boycott. Activision says 450 for mouse and old tech. Too expensive to MAD emojis right there so that you get that all set there in terms of what they think about it. George Huffman says physical games will cost more than digital. We'll see if that's confirmed. Joey D says, I doubt the mouse mode will be smooth and comfy, though. Andy.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Cat too. TR Pick says unlike Bloodborne. Do you all think Fromsoft is keeping the rights to the new Games.

[Cat Bailey]

Yes. I think they want to.

[Andy Cortez]

I think they've learned a lesson or two.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's jump into it and start going blow by blow then. As we have said as we get into this, we began with, of course, Mario Kart World. I think again, Andy, you nailed it at the end there. How did none of us guess this name?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I think, yeah, we went with cross country. We went with you. I think Blessing said cross worlds. And we're like, wait, no, that's the Sonic game or whatever the hell. Yeah. Mario Kart World just makes so much sense. I don't know why. It just was the most obvious option and none of us even thought of it, but looks great. I think that was my hope when we were kind of first shown. It was. I kept on bringing up the Forza thing. If they can do anything similar to Forza, even just this free roam mode, hanging out with your friends and driving, going off of ramps and just doing photo mode, it looks so much fun and having this large interconnected map, you know, with a bunch of different tracks sort of being all over the place. I love seeing that world map later on in the. In the little trailer that we saw. This looks fun as hell. I can't freaking wait. Yeah, I'm really excited about it.

[Greg Miller]

Let me give you the official description here from the press release. All right. Put the pedal to the metal in Mario Kart World. Brand new experience set in a vast interconnected environment. Race seamlessly across connected courses that deliver Mario Kart racing like never before. 24 drivers can compete in a race. Participate in the new Knockout Tour mode where you'll barrel through back to back courses and checkpoints with no pit stops along the way. If a player doesn't make it to each checkpoint at a high enough placement, they will be eliminated. And in Free Roam, it's possible to go off the racetrack and drive in any direction you wish, explore areas that pique your interest, and take some photos at scenic spots with a group of friends. Mario Kart World races on a Nintendo Switch 2 on June 5th. More details will be revealed in the Mario Kart world direct presentation. April 17th at 6am Pacific. What I get, I mean, I love Mario Kart, period. What makes me excited about this one is the idea that, hey, get. When you're going to free roam, I bet that's where we unlock a bunch of cool stuff. I'm gonna go out there and find. We saw you. You called it out, Andy. In this, we saw us, you know, wearing different outfits as the traditional characters I bet that's the kind of stuff you got to go out and actually noodle and find in the open world.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think it's gonna be great for families as well. Especially when I think of you and Ben. Right. Of like, hey, let's put down the race and we don't have to stress about time.

[Greg Miller]

That's why I love Forza.

[Snowbike Mike]

Go explore. And I think, yeah, we talk about Forza. I think that is a big win here, especially Nintendo. We think of these family friendly games. We think of these moments that you get to share when you put away the competitive side of things and you can just have fun and enjoy the scenery. I think that is a massive win right there.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah. And I think it really opens the door for more of a single player experience. Mario Kart has been race the tracks, have fun with your friends and that's fine and everything. But having a, an actual campaign, if they decide to have that in there with hidden items and collectibles, I think that's the upgrade that we really need from a series that last saw a major release more than a decade ago at this point, which is wild. It's older than kind of funny.

[Greg Miller]

We don't bring that up. Of course, there's one psycho we all know and love about Mario Karten. His name's Barrett Courtney. Of course. The boss, baby. The CEO junior. How you feeling, Barrett?

[Barrett Courtney]

Feeling great about Mario Kart World. I actually want to take it somewhere else though, really quick. Wario 64 Nintendo Switch 2 on my Nintendo store invites will go out to people who register their interest. Register here first come first serve basis to registrants who have purchased a Nintendo Switch online membership with a minimum of 12 months NSO and 50 hours of gameplay as April as of April 2nd. So in terms of, I assume pre ordering. Pre ordering through Nintendo themselves, I think this is how they're going to try to fight scalpers, at least on their end.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

So yeah, I think it's what I.

[Greg Miller]

Think it's one of those you can roll your eyes at and laugh at, which is true. But it is like we. The big problem has been people saying what about scalper? Scalpers are gonna do this.

[Barrett Courtney]

I just want throw that out there for. For people watching, but not the scout.

[Greg Miller]

I'm opening up my authenticator. I gotta get in. I gotta get. I gotta get on the list. What did you think of? I want your score for the direct and I want to know what you.

[Barrett Courtney]

Think world the score, I would say a nine. I think, I think it was amazing. I Think there's definitely some. Some questionable things there. Purely just wind Waker coming through. GameCube Nintendo again. I feel like those Wii U ports never actually existed, the HD versions of those games, and we just got fed bad info. When I was at IGN seven years ago at this point, that hurt. But I. I had a fantastic time hanging out with y'all, watching this, getting a Donkey Kong 3D platformer game in the year 2025. Again, like I said in the reacts like blessing and I are thriving. You know, we've been waiting for something like this since Donkey Kong 64, so that's awesome. Like, you know, I'm glad to take a break from Mario for a bit, you know, give a Donkey Kong some. Some love.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Andy Cortez]

Do you think we can all collectively thank Seth Rogen? And this is not even me joking, like, just the movie in general, for making Donkey Kong. Like, I feel like that has a major tie in the fact that not only DK World, that would have been.

[Greg Miller]

A plan for a while, though, that way. I think. I think. I think in general, he's part of Nintendo's vision to revitalize.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying.

[Barrett Courtney]

I. I don't think it's the, like, the reaction to the movie because we've been hearing rumors about a Donkey Kong platformer for, like, five years at this point, so. Or movie had to have been in development.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like, four years or something like that.

[Cat Bailey]

The movie is a piece of a plan to try and make Donkey Kong a more vital character again.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly.

[Cat Bailey]

Because he kind of got lost a little bit in the mix with Mario. Mario definitely overshadowed him.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

But Donkey Kong, still a really important character.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah. And it, like, definitely, like, once they stopped working with rare, taking the 64 out of it, like, with country and all that stuff, like, it definitely felt like they were struggling to, like, really push dk. And so I'm, you know, I'm happy with that plan. Exclusive from Soft game on the switch, too. Awesome. All that stuff. But to bring it back to Mario Kart. Yeah, I'm very excited. I'm glad to, you know, eat crow. On the whole, like, thinking the openness of the game was being overblown, but that's a cool way to kind of change things up. Like, after Mario Kart 8, feeling kind of like the pinnacle of what we've had so far, them doing something different with it, I. I think is rad. And I'm. I'm excited to get new courses, honestly. That's just what I need. I'M you know, I loved eight but we've had it for 12 years at this point. So I'm ready for something new and different.

[Andy Cortez]

Dynamic weather.

[Barrett Courtney]

Dynamic weather.

[Snowbike Mike]

Wall riding looked great also.

[Barrett Courtney]

I'm just really quick on the hardware. Excited for all that. I will never use that chat option probably ever. But everything else like 120Hz and handheld 4K60 in docked mode. All that sounds really cool. Really exciting. Oh God.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Look at all these cups. Look at all those different tracks.

[Greg Miller]

Look at all these racers. Of course. Come on now.

[Barrett Courtney]

But no dry bones.

[Greg Miller]

Didn't see dry bones. So it's kind of offensive that I can be a cow I love, but.

[Barrett Courtney]

I can't be Dry Bones the cow from Moomoo Meadows.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, dog, I respect the cow, but.

[Andy Cortez]

I'm just saying you can like looking at the totem pole hierarchy that dry Bones is maybe below the cow. That's crazy.

[Snowbike Mike]

Historic run.

[Greg Miller]

It's not about that life. Not about that life whatsoever. Yeah. And these costumes are a cool addition too. As somebody who likes to, you know, switch it up as much as possible, make it look cool out there.

[Snowbike Mike]

I like seeing the boats. Was that in the last one being the go into like boat mode, when you jump in the water, if anything they're doing.

[Cat Bailey]

They're going Diddy Kong racing.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes, exactly.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

I really enjoyed seeing that as well. Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm pumped on just. It feels fresh. Like Barrett and you have said it's like it's. That's an old game that we've all loved and I can't wait for something new.

[Barrett Courtney]

Them going boat mode makes me think like Nintendo, it's time. Bring wave race back.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know, Hydro Thunder. Bring it back.

[Cat Bailey]

1080 snowboarding.

[Greg Miller]

We do have a hot take for you here. Hot. Breaking news. According to Jeff Keighley, digital games on The Nintendo Switch 2 are now $80.

[Cat Bailey]

Okay, that's pricey.

[Andy Cortez]

They just skipped the fucking 70.

[Greg Miller]

Mario Kart World will retail for $80 for the digital edition. Then he follows up with a separate tweet, recapping everything and dropping at the end of their Digital games are now $80.

[Cat Bailey]

That's. That's. That's big news. Honestly.

[Andy Cortez]

It's a high import cost for the digital codes.

[Snowbike Mike]

Does that shift? Yeah. The whole game industry. Will we start seeing that on the next wave?

[Cat Bailey]

This is. Everybody's going to start doing this.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, of course.

[Cat Bailey]

And GTA 6 is going to be $100. Like mark it down. So if anything, it's so Nintendo. It's surprising to see Nintendo setting the bar early because traditionally they've been the more affordable alternative console, the one that you would get in addition to a PS5. But this is where the games industry is trending at this point.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. This is an interesting wrinkle. And I know Jeff saying that apparently he has it for Mario Kart. I'll. I'm interested to see if that where he's getting that. Where. I mean, not that I don't believe him, but is it just Mario Kart World? Is it just in Tender Stuff? Is it everybody moving where it's going?

[Cat Bailey]

Well, it makes the bundle a lot more appealing because.

[Greg Miller]

He bucks for Mario. You're gonna buy that no matter what. So there you go.

[Andy Cortez]

I think just going back to when Tears of the Kingdom releases. And that's going, oh, that's the first seventy dollar Nintendo game ever. That's got to be the new standard. And Nintendo said, nope, let's push it. $10 extra. That's kind of shocking. That's. That sucks. Honestly, I don't, I don't love that.

[Cat Bailey]

But they also know that they can do it.

[Barrett Courtney]

Of course, of course they will sell.

[Cat Bailey]

A lot of copies. People complain. There will be a lot of complaints online, but they will sell.

[Snowbike Mike]

I will still buy that.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. According to Ethan. Gosh, of course. From Kotaku. He's citing a reset era thread here. Mario Kart World is listed at €80 on the Spanish My Nintendo Store. Oh, interesting. So this is off of a screenshot that I guess is from recent era, but I'm seeing from Ethan. Mario Kart World is listed for 79.99 digital and then physical 89.99. Then Donkey Kong Bonanza is listed as digital 69.99, physical 79.9.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, the red cartridges and again, this.

[Greg Miller]

Money to paint Spanish My Nintendo Store. So we're, you know, we're getting. This is all leaking out and breaking off and all this stuff's happening as we go.

[Barrett Courtney]

Surprise. Like, I'm surprised it's not the opposite. Just because they know they're gonna sell a fuck ton of like, maybe that's the reason. Like, they're just upping it just by $10 because they know they're gonna make a, like, sell a ton of copies of Mario Kart. But you'd think because of that they would try to downplay it a little. I don't know.

[Cat Bailey]

That's a. I think they're funneling people to the bundle. I think that's what they want people to do.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yes. Smart. I registered for the bundle Me too.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I think that was the only one I saw on the thing.

[Andy Cortez]

No, there was two.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, there's two. There's two options.

[Greg Miller]

But it's that thing where it's like.

[Andy Cortez]

Which one I want is the one.

[Greg Miller]

People want to want one.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, exactly. I want the one where Nintendo goes. He wants to pay more.

[Greg Miller]

Give it to him at the front line. Put them at the front of the line. I'm willing.

[Andy Cortez]

We'll throw in an extra Joy console for $900.

[Snowbike Mike]

Let's go.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Over on the Mario Kart World page on the Nintendo thing, where they have a bunch of information. They have 79.99 as the suggested retail price period. So that's not saying anything about digital error. So we will continue to monitor this as this happens. But that aside, the game looked great. Excited for this direct on the 17th.

[Snowbike Mike]

24 players. Yeah, that looks cool. I'm excited to see the evolution of the Online. I never loved it. It was never as perfect as I wanted it to be when I team up with all my friends. But I'm excited. I think it. It feels like a new era of Nintendo. I think they're really going to elevate this one. It's gonna be cool.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm glad you mentioned the Online, because that's one area that Nintendo needs to upgrade across the board. Of course, as much as I love Smash Brothers, the Online was embarrassing in that game and remains embarrassing. And that game needs rollback. Netcode in the worst way. And frankly, when I'm looking at Mario Kart, it was good. It was okay. But they really need to expand the. The features.

[Snowbike Mike]

The lobby system.

[Cat Bailey]

The lobby system's really bad.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

I want. I want everything elevated on this cat is right. Great. Call out. Smash gets a flower for me because they have a cool. Like, they have a nice little lobby where you can spectate games. But I agree, when you actually start playing it, no, it needs a lot of help.

[Greg Miller]

Moving on, then. This is where we revealed finally, what that dang see button is all about. We looked at the Joy Con two and then moved up to the C button. Guess what it does? It's called Game Chat. It is a microphone through the handheld device. So if you're playing it handheld, awesome. If it's on the other side of the room, they say it's great. And they say you can run a blender in the back and it won't be heard. You'll be fine.

[Andy Cortez]

Andrew back there, why are you making a smoothie?

[Greg Miller]

You know what I mean? I'm trying to play Mario Kart. Knock it off.

[Snowbike Mike]

Flashback to the connect days. This is gonna be a wild one to hear that in person, man. I hope. I hope it sounds good.

[Andy Cortez]

What's funny to me is like, you know, I think the. One of the big questions leading into all of this is what's going to be the new gimmick that Nintendo has to show? And to me, it's not this voice chat. It's like 120 hertz. Like, to me, that's like a gimmick for them because of how odd that is. When I see this voice chat thing, it's something like silly and weird enough to not be surprising. In a way. I was surprised, though, by all of their sort of discord wanting everybody to see everybody's feeds. I was really kind of surprised by that because again, it feels like. Like they maybe assume another pandemic's gonna happen or something. I don't know, man. It just feels like really out of place and out of time.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I think it's them trying to catch up and knowing people do that and them wanting that from them to some degree. I think what's the most interesting for me, we didn't even get to it, right? They debut this camera as well, right. That you can plug into the top of it and use it that I don't want. I don't need it for these discord calls they're doing. But I did kind of like when it was being integrated into the game Mario Party. Yeah. It's like I. That's the thing. We're like, okay, that's cute.

[Cat Bailey]

Is it only compatible with Nintendo's camera, I assume?

[Greg Miller]

No, no, no, it's not. No, I'm looking, right? Let me read. Yeah, well, I know, but you never know Nintendo, right? No, it says, but if they connect a compatible USB C camera, such as the Nintendo Switch to camera sold separately, they can also video chat. Seeing their faces, they cheer, shout or laugh while playing. Additional friends can join via audio.

[Cat Bailey]

Might actually be nice for streaming because if I'm playing Mario Kart or something, we're all our faces are all over the little carts. That could be fun, I suppose.

[Snowbike Mike]

A fun family feature as well, right? You think grandma's calling in to see the family?

[Greg Miller]

Grandma's playing on Nintendo Switch too.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know that families all around the globe will get switches to see their.

[Greg Miller]

Grandma as soon as they put that goddamn animal crossing out there, for sure.

[Cat Bailey]

It makes me think of when the Switch was first announced and they were showing stuff like, you can play with your Friends on a little kickstand on a rooftop and you're like, I'll never use that. I did use that.

[Greg Miller]

I did use that.

[Cat Bailey]

I used that many times. And I mean, I'll probably on be on Discord playing Switch with Friends if I am, but I don't know, it could be something that I end up using. Just having it integrated is kind of nice.

[Andy Cortez]

I only think of it as a way for us to make content with and really not any other. I don't see any sort of personal way that I would be using this because again, Mike, just forever alone. You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Forever alone. We're attached to the PCs. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You meet so many people outside of the games industry that have game nights with their friends where they play Mario Party, they play Mario Kart, and like this is going to be a way for them to connect, see each other as much as we might think, oh, that's odd. I think a lot of people out there, they'll have a wine night with their girlfriends, they'll have fun. I dated a girl that did this, so I know for sure she will take advantage of that. I know friends and family members would love to see each other. So as odd as it sounds to us who are like hyper fixated on this video games world, like I think the outside world will go, oh, that's fun. Like we could do this together.

[Andy Cortez]

It also could easily become just such a normal ass thing that we kind of take for granted right now in the way that we're like, why would I want a camera on my phone back in the day? Yeah, it becomes such a normal part. I, I would love for it to become like that because I think it is such a. I think it's such a neat and odd idea, but I'm more excited about the gameplay implementations as opposed to like the actual voice chatting. I love the Mario Party stuff and I, I hope that Nintendo can continue to get kind of weird and wacky with how they can have that camera be on your mi's head or whatever the hell you know.

[Greg Miller]

This is the. I'm staying singing in here right now while we talk about the chat and everything else. This is the. We'll get to the breakdown of the hardware and all that stuff. This is where you introduced. Oh, interesting. The dock has no ports on it. The unit itself has two USB C ports, but the dock itself doesn't. So to charge your camera or charge your controller or plug in this camera, you're going to the top slot on the system, which I thought I didn't like. I'm not Tim, obviously. I showed up to work today.

[Andy Cortez]

He's a winner.

[Greg Miller]

But it's that I am a winner too. Or a Timmis. It doesn't matter. It's that idea of like I don't need everything to be the most esthetically pleasing thing. But I thought it looked ugly as hell. The camera and then the USB C coming out to it. I like, I don't like that.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm sure they, I mean they want it to have it. So when you have your Switch out of the dock that you can plug in the camera and everything. But it is surprising that they don't have more. Just put a port on that.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Because guess what? Shocking no.1 owned. Hello everyone. Rating from Bruce Green right now on Twitch. Thank you so much, Bruce, for sending over. I think, yeah. The next shocking no. 1 I'm sure is that the next whatever the OLED switch 2 they put out is going to have ports on this goddamn dog. It'll be 550, but it'll be there. I'll have the ports.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. The C button and the chat menu is not the. The gimmick or the elevation that I wanted to see, but it is the thing that they needed the most. Right? We talked about the social features on Nintendo switch. Sharing a 20 digit long insane code was never fun. Right. Having just a small profile photo and not much else was never fun.

[Andy Cortez]

Using the phone app for voice chat.

[Snowbike Mike]

So like this is something low key.

[Cat Bailey]

Having a mic on the actual Switch is really a godsend.

[Snowbike Mike]

They needed to elevate this and I'm sorry I keep saying that, but they needed to improve upon their chat and social functions and it looks like they did. Right. I. I brought up the C meaning the cursor function. It's like that would be lame if it was just the C button. It's just turn it into mouse mode. Right. So I'm glad that we looked at our social features and said how do we improve upon this in 2025?

[Greg Miller]

Moving on in order of operations, up next was game share. Something we talked about cat that of course we remember this from the DS back in the day. The idea here being that compatible Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch 2 games are going to be able to share with other. I'm sorry, that's not right. Share. You can share games with other people from the Nintendo Switch 2. However, you could share to a Switch 1 as well. Compatible games. There'll be free updates for these in the future, but the Idea being that I have a multiplayer game on my switch too. I can beam it to all yalls switches that don't own the game and we can play together that way. Very cool.

[Andy Cortez]

Little Joseph Farah is right there. Right. Like seeing how much success it takes to had with you know, again, a game that you could play with your friend and your friend didn't have to buy it and that still sold 20 plus. 20 plus million copies. This is amazing and so shocking that it exists when you're looking at what their game prices are now going to be. I guess I'm just more surprised by like the pro consumer thing there. When it's really hard to look at any of these companies as pro consumer nowadays. You know, take a little bit of.

[Cat Bailey]

The sting out of the price point.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, a little bit, but not a whole.

[Snowbike Mike]

I mean yeah, birthday parties, conventions, we've all been to fun social gatherings where there's a bunch of people with Nintendo switches and nothing is worth going. You got Mario Kart. You got Mario Kart. I don't have Mario Kart. Like the idea to be able to beam that and do that I think is a big win. Right. Is that's going to be a lot of fun. Very cool. I'm used to buying way too many copies of games for my friends. So the idea if we're all together and I can just say here we go, we got it. That makes me smile.

[Cat Bailey]

So out of everyone, all of the major council holders, Nintendo is still the play with your friends in the living room platform holder, the social gaming platform. And I like that. I miss living room gaming.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

And so that's a great feature. That's a great ad.

[Snowbike Mike]

How will this work? Is it a I share with you and then an install and we're kind of waiting. Is this going to be a cloud stream type thing? How does this really work in reality? Because I'm excited to see that because I would hate to share. And then we have got it. It's ooh, the WI FI connection.

[Greg Miller]

It's gotta be just instant. Right. Like it says at the top, using game share. Right. So you're hoping. Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

And you see, look.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, they gotta see a little bar.

[Greg Miller]

They got a connection bar up there too.

[Cat Bailey]

So yeah, download data and then you can actually start playing it I think. So they introduced the virtual game cards last week and that also has a lending system that they put out where you can lend a game for 14.

[Greg Miller]

Days and that's a download.

[Cat Bailey]

Similar technology I have to imagine.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, you'd hope. Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Have you ever played It Takes Two or Split Fiction as the added person? No, I did when me and Nick played It Takes Two back in the day. And it's not the best experience, but it's still cool that it exists, you know, at all. Right. Like there. There is a tiny bit of latency. Ish. And it doesn't look super clean. I don't know if that's the same tech they're using or if you are actually downloading some sort of license to have it there in a more meaningful physical way as opposed to just a like a cloud streaming type deal. But it's still really neither this exists at all.

[Cat Bailey]

But for real, where's me verse? Where's Street Pass?

[Greg Miller]

Street Pass? Get it back. What are we talking about?

[Andy Cortez]

Well, I just got a press release here. The welcome Tour game. That is an add on. That's a. That's a 90 purchase.

[Cat Bailey]

But it's not free for a second.

[Andy Cortez]

But it's not free.

[Snowbike Mike]

We'll talk about that in a minute. Let's all take a guess on how much that's gonna be. Holy.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, again, it seems like somebody. The chat's popping off saying, though $80 is confirmed for all digital games, which I don't know if that. Yeah, that's crazy. Somebody else said to. We got a super chat from Kieran Rice or. Yeah, Kieran Rice. Barrett, show them the back of the dock again. There are two USB ports are shown. My apologies if I missed that. We're obviously fast and loose with this.

[Andy Cortez]

I gotta assume it's where the power cable goes into on the left side.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, when they. When they did the full back, like they did a turn of the back and it was the normal HDMI power cord thing, Ethernet. And that's when I was like, oh, there's nothing on the sides either. So I. I believed in. From what I saw in that thing, there wasn't ports on the dock itself.

[Barrett Courtney]

So yeah, we've got our normal AC adapter, HDMI lan, which is kind of the normal setup for that. Yeah, yeah, over here we've got.

[Andy Cortez]

You can't see it nor.

[Barrett Courtney]

Oh, oh, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Okay, I take it back then. I apologize, everybody. That's why that makes sense for the camera being plugged in the top because it's USB C only. Wait, I'm still mad again. Now I'm back to being mad. USB C is the future. What the fuck are we doing here?

[Andy Cortez]

That's USB CN and USB A N. It's their own Nintendo proprietary.

[Greg Miller]

A chat that I don't have full. This is all breaking fast. Phylaw95 goes Europe is fucked with Nintendo prices. €90 for games is disgusting. Nothing to do with tariffs. Just so you all know, if we go down, we're taking you with us. That's the American motto.

[Snowbike Mike]

Spiral.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

So we were rating the Nintendo Nintendo Switch presentation earlier and saying, wow, look at all these games and everything. The price just became the dominant.

[Greg Miller]

That's why they don't put it in there.

[Cat Bailey]

That's why people are going to be talking about yeah. For the next couple days. And in that I think that's a little rough for Nintendo.

[Greg Miller]

Here's the thing. It is ware bonanza is. Yeah. 79.99 is this. But there was a difference on the. Is that the Switch web store?

[Barrett Courtney]

Is it Getting a Switch 1 version only on Switch.

[Andy Cortez]

Wow.

[Greg Miller]

But remember when I looked at the Spanish store, I forget which country that was. I apologize. There was a difference there where it was physical and digital had different prices.

[Cat Bailey]

So again, DK is 70, Mario Kart World is 80. I think there's a lot of confusion.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Happening, understandably so. Not something you necessarily want when people are deciding whether or not to make a purchase with your console.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. But here's the thing is I think so many people are just gonna be down to do it. And I think also we're talking about we're 44 minutes removed from rap time. Whereas like in another hour this should be answered and settled. And it's not Jeff Grubbs tweeting and Jeff Keighley's doing this and we're trying to figure that out. And I'm getting a super chat from somebody like, I feel like the price is an issue, obviously, but I also think people were stealing themselves for it. And it's also that, all right, cool games are $80. Are you not gonna buy it? Was that really. Is that really what's gonna break you from this? I doubt it for a lot of people. And I bet Nintendo does too. And I bet Nintendo looks at the people we don't get are gonna be made up for by the money we're making off of the 20 extra dollars from where we were before. We'll see. While we talk about dollars and cents, everybody, I saw Joey in the chat say, with these prices, I'm gonna stop super chatting. Well, that's fine. But I hope of course, as you save up for your Nintendo Switch, you think about picking up a kinda funny membership. Of course, $10 supports a small business, an 11 person small business. All about live talk shows. Remember, each and every weekday we come to you with Kinda Funny games daily with the biggest news of the day. We do a gamescast with the biggest top. And then of course we do streams for your amusement. And there's a bunch of different shows in review, screencasts. Whatever Nick does around here, you understand. If you like that, pick up a kinda funny membership. $10 would get you all of our shows. That's more than 80amonth A.D. free. And of course you'd get the ability to watch a daily video vlog podcast from me called gregway. But right now you're not using the benefits you can get on YouTube.com kindafunnygames patreon.com kindafunny or Apple and Spotify. So here's a word from our sponsors.

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[Greg Miller]

And we're back in this super sized gamescast where I have to keep texting Gary Whitta. Actually come in 30 minutes later. Actually come in 30 minutes later.

[Snowbike Mike]

I knew that was going to happen.

[Greg Miller]

Because I hope he knows it too because if he doesn't then he just. I did.

[Snowbike Mike]

I actually did tell him bring Starbucks. Starbucks coffee.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, okay.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, but don't actually tell him that. No, not at all.

[Greg Miller]

Of course everybody, thank you for watching. So many of you are. It's amazing. We're enjoying all your super chats to be part of the show. Thank you for breaking news to us. When we get this. This has all been great. Matt Sanders writes in and says it'll suck when these games are still $80 five years from now. Of course talking about how Nintendo never does that. Bear Courtney bringing my water because I forgot it when I was running around yelling stuff at Joey moving things around out there.

[Andy Cortez]

Black Friday sale will be 76 94.

[Greg Miller]

While we were doing that of course going through, I have more breaking news for you. Barrett sent me this one from Wario 64. The Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild and the Legend of Tears of the Kingdom. Switch to upgrades are free for Nintendo Switch online and expansion pack members.

[Barrett Courtney]

Tim and Bless called it.

[Greg Miller]

Tim and Bless called that as they say. So that's an interesting upgrade. Cuz there were other ones we will have to pay for. So as we jump around and figure that out again Cat, back to your thing of like we rated the presentation and now on the other side of it it's like all confusion.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I had a. To me it was the game pass sort of argument where on that game, when we were talking about the games or on gamescast I was saying I could totally see them doing. If you are a member you get that shit for free. But if not, pay an amount of money that we won't let you know yet. Yeah, but you got to assume 10 to 20 now like the fact that they didn't show us 10 makes me think that it's not going to be 10, it's going to be probably $20 to get the visual upgrade.

[Greg Miller]

You think so too? Yeah, I would assume as well. Right.

[Cat Bailey]

I would err on the side of 20.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, 20 to 30.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Let's jump back into where we left off. Going through this presentation moment by second, second by second we got the switch to itself. This was the breakdown where they ju and started rattling off stuff that made Andy Cortez go wow, wow, wow, wowee. Hot dog. We got a 7.9-inch screen, 1080 screen. It's up to 120 frames per second, LCD, HDR. Joy Cons of course are magnetic. We got bigger SL&SR buttons, larger control sticks, mouse controls, 3D audio, a newsstand, two USB C ports on the system itself, top and bottom, 256 gigabytes. Internal, a new dock, 4K support, 60 frames per second max in 4K and of course plays compatible Switch games. And you are my tech powerhouse. This did it for you.

[Andy Cortez]

Absolutely. This is so surprising and shocking to me. I think if anything people are going to see what it's like to experience higher frame rates because not everybody has the LG OLED that gives you, you know, the higher refresh rate and plugging in PS4s that give you 120 frames on older games or sorry, PS5s that give you higher frame rates. This is, it was pretty shocking to me. I, I know that it was rumored, but I just in no way like, like we mentioned earlier Greg, where I was like if you told me that there was going to be a Miyazaki LED from software games, it would have said you're crazy. The fact that we saw 120 frames per second on a screen today for a Nintendo conference is absolutely mind blowing because most people don't give a shit about things like that. At least, you know, people want 60 minimum. I'm really shocked by that sort of tech even being an option. And that's also why, you know, the, the hardware is above $400. You know, it costs extra money to get displays that work that well. 1080p and, and yes, the fact that we saw a lot of like 4k60 minimum and then 1080,120 is just, just so exciting to me. I can't believe we're here with Nintendo.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Look at those bezels though. They're pretty big.

[Greg Miller]

I hate bezels.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Big ass bezels. Yeah. OLED bezels are so much smaller.

[Greg Miller]

That's why when I get that one, the upgrade here in two years when they want to sell it to me again, it'll be all about it.

[Cat Bailey]

550 I think 120fps is a huge, huge deal. I was really, really mourning the loss of the OLED screen because it looks so good on the original Switch, but.

[Andy Cortez]

Especially because Nintendo games are so bright and colorful and it really, they really utilize like that full gamut of color options. But I still think it's going to be a very nice looking display because LCD technology has just come a long way in the last 10 years.

[Cat Bailey]

Bigger screen, HDR, 120fps, high refresh rate. That's great.

[Andy Cortez]

Unbelievable.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah, that's really, really good.

[Greg Miller]

Mike, you got anything to complain about a complaint?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, you brought up. I'd like to know a little bit more about the Internet plugin in the back. You brought it up saying that there was one and then the chat said there wasn't one.

[Greg Miller]

No, they were talking about usbcs.

[Snowbike Mike]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

There's an, there's Ethernet in there, right? Nobody's argued.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, there's an Ethernet.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think that's just one that I didn't like on my original Switch dock. You know we had to buy the dongle for it.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Snowbike Mike]

You know, I just didn't love downloading off the WI fi. I liked the faster speeds that we have. So I am happy that if there is a plug in, which it sounds like there is, and I'm very excited.

[Barrett Courtney]

The plugin was updated for I think the OLED edition.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Correct.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. The newer dock had that ethernet. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

For real. This is a much a big improvement on the existing technology and I think one of the biggest, biggest ones is they may have finally solved the Joy Con Drift issue after these many years.

[Greg Miller]

Whoa.

[Cat Bailey]

Because of the magnet. That's like one of the speculation as to why they have the magnetic attachments. With the actual Joy Cons. Is that to help address some of the drift, they better figure that they.

[Greg Miller]

Better have that figured out from there. Unless anybody has something else to say about the hardware itself.

[Andy Cortez]

No, just, you know, again, kind of just blown away that please put alarm away. Big buttons also on the, you know. Yeah, they really, they talked about the larger Joy Con, you know, joysticks. I've never, I rarely play with the actual Joy Cons unless maybe I'm on a flight. But even then I, when I was playing with my Switch on flights a lot, I was still kickstanding it with a Pro controller because I just prefer that experience even more. But yeah, the larger buttons is always nice because, you know, they're a little bit tight. I'm not a Tim guy who like needs the perfect size buttons. Yeah. But it's still, you know, it's still really exciting that this hardware is even an option.

[Barrett Courtney]

Last thing, do you think with all these hardware upgrades that the biggest software performance boost in the Nintendo eShop will perform any better? Do you think that'll be better?

[Andy Cortez]

No.

[Cat Bailey]

By and large it sounds like the UI is going to be relatively the same, but it's so full of crap.

[Greg Miller]

Unfortunately.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Two themes.

[Cat Bailey]

I think one of the big questions a lot of people were having was dlss. They didn't talk about it during the actual stream. There was a lot of talk in the press release about a vastly improved CPU and gpu. And pre release rumors had that Nvidia was making a graphics card and you would assume dlss, like AI upscaling and things like that would be part of the package and that would be a significant step toward making the switch to competitive and in modern context for maybe years to come. But they didn't really talk about it much, so there's some questions around.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think it's too big of a audience for it. Right.

[Andy Cortez]

I think that's going too nerdy with it. And I, I'm with you. I still think it is an option. The fact that we saw 4K60 as a thing at all shows me that the, the. Because they are even touting those numbers, there has to be some sort of upscaling involved because a lot of current consoles can't do 4k60 depending on the game. Right. I, I do think that like maybe it was a part of the presentation at one point and then they were like, no, no. 120 frames per second is the most nerdy we can get here. We cannot talk about AI, don't forget.

[Greg Miller]

Right. They've already Announced these tomorrow and the day after. Giant treehouse streams. Right where I think that would be. You can go into it.

[Cat Bailey]

Something to watch for, I think.

[Greg Miller]

100. Yeah. Kyle is saying in a super chat camera, 60 pro controllers. 80. And the GameCube controller is 65. These are dollars.

[Andy Cortez]

65.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh. All right. In line.

[Cat Bailey]

Get that GameCube controller for when Smash Melee shows up.

[Andy Cortez]

I was kind of talking about Smash real quick. I think because we didn't see it as a Switch to upgrade in that, you know, small like list of games. Didn't show every game, obviously. But I think because it wasn't showcased there, that there has to just be another big game being made.

[Cat Bailey]

I think. So I. Okay. For real though. I like and I keep saying for real, so I'll promise I'll cut that out.

[Greg Miller]

There's. So you're usually such a off the wall person.

[Cat Bailey]

I would just be happy with a Nintendo Switch 2 edition of Smash Brothers ultimate with much better online, 120fps and in a third expansion pass. If you gave me all of those things, that's a sequel to me. Because Smash Brothers ultimate, aside from the Online, is basically perfect. Yeah, it is an incredible, incredible game that I still play all the time. It has a roster that can never be matched again. Buy any new Smash Brothers game. If you just give me Smash Brothers ultimate and a Nintendo Switch and better Online and a new expansion pass, I'm in heaven.

[Andy Cortez]

And maybe that's why. Maybe another reason why we didn't see it as One of these Switch 2 upgrade options is because I think maybe they're just kind of looking at, well, Mario Kart is going to be our multiplayer thing for now. We can do a Smash Bros thing in the future, similar to where we saw Mario Party Jamboree. Having not only Switch two enhancements visually, but camera stuff and, you know, using all these new little mouse gimmicks or whatever. I could totally see the Smash Bros. Ultimate version being a Switch 2 option with expanded things. And also it just runs better and looks better. 120 frames per second would be amazing for that.

[Cat Bailey]

Give Sakurai break. He wants to make Kirby right now and he's earned it.

[Greg Miller]

Let the man rest. He's done enough for you.

[Andy Cortez]

But Sakurai, we have another race racing game we're doing called Mario Kart. No, no, no. I don't care.

[Greg Miller]

No. This is Kirby. Air Riders. Thank you. Get out of my way. We're gonna keep going. Before we get there, of course, we have to move on to possibly the greatest game they showed Today, Nintendo Switch 2 welcome Tour.

[Cat Bailey]

Whoa.

[Greg Miller]

Here's the thing about it. They jump in. It's showing off. Oh, there's so many new features to learn about the Nintendo Switch 2. So we made Nintendo Switch 2 welcome Tour. It's an adorable little design. The little desks, like, I say that look exactly like their. Their check in desks at E3. Cool. I'm all about that. They're moving around, they're doing the thing. I'm like, great, great, great. It's when they get to the end and they're like, Nintendo Switch 2 welcome to. Will be available to buy from the Nintendo Nintendo Eshop from Nintendo Switch to launch day. Like, wait, this isn't a pack in. This isn't a freebie. This isn't an Astrobot. What are we doing, Greg?

[Andy Cortez]

You cannot in your little demonstration, say, and you can check out a bunch of other tech demos in this paid. No, man. Like, it's a.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like, even the Steam Deck portal experience. That was free, right? That was a free download.

[Greg Miller]

That's insane.

[Cat Bailey]

What a weird miss for them.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like, I'd love to see the stats on how many people are actually gonna buy it.

[Snowbike Mike]

And not in my Nintendo Switch online subscription either. Like, yeah, I'm already giving you monthly payments. Like, let's just put this in here, y'all.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Outrageous. Crazy. But there it is, showing me how Rumble works.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm sorry.

[Greg Miller]

Of course. No, no, no, you. I want you to keep beating this drone. We need Streetpass. We need Miis. Come on.

[Cat Bailey]

What are we doing?

[Greg Miller]

Bring it back. Get it on with it.

[Cat Bailey]

This reminds me of, apparently back in the mid-90s, Microsoft tried to make a graphical version of their Windows desktop that was like an adventure game. And it reminds me a little bit of this in the way they were tutorializing everything.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Tracks. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Why are we paying for a tutorial for the switch 2? Unless they have a lot of interesting minigames. But these look like. Look at these things. I mean, come on.

[Greg Miller]

He said the word for these.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, he said the word tech demo. Like, it's that. That's what kind of what we are seeing with golf and with shaking a maraca or whatever. But it's just so bizarre that this is something that they're expecting people to buy.

[Cat Bailey]

See, I want Nintendo World to come back.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

I can play Animal Crossing Sweet Days again, which is the best mini game ever.

[Andy Cortez]

Read Pass is so cool, though.

[Greg Miller]

So cool. We have more breaking news. I just wanted to verify. Jesus Christ. Left and right. Joy Con 2 controllers. How much are you gonna pay for those, Andy?

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, no, man. You're setting me up for each separately.

[Greg Miller]

Together, a new set of JoyCons.

[Snowbike Mike]

195Cat.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm gonna say 120. 90.

[Greg Miller]

90. Oh, okay.

[Cat Bailey]

Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

So wait, from 80 to 90, right?

[Barrett Courtney]

How much is the pro?

[Greg Miller]

The Pro controller is 80.

[Snowbike Mike]

Than that.

[Greg Miller]

80.

[Andy Cortez]

80 what?

[Snowbike Mike]

Hell yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

What?

[Snowbike Mike]

Hell yeah.

[Greg Miller]

You got the mouse.

[Andy Cortez]

You got the mouse tech in there.

[Greg Miller]

And this is the classic.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, they're expensive.

[Greg Miller]

No, I was gonna say it's the classic thing of, like, yeah, they need to put a new gimmick in there, then that's gonna justify the price or whatever.

[Cat Bailey]

Y'all buckle up. Everything's gonna be more expensive now. That's just the way it is.

[Snowbike Mike]

Everything.

[Cat Bailey]

Everything. But at least your eggs. $150 an egg.

[Andy Cortez]

But the job market's good, though, now, right? Aren't people more employed now?

[Greg Miller]

The wall's almost done, too.

[Cat Bailey]

They're building in the price increases right from the start and just setting expectations so that they don't have to raise prices later, because they're going to have to.

[Barrett Courtney]

The investment is worth it, because when AI Takes over our jobs, we're going to have so much free time.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly.

[Barrett Courtney]

If they need to play all of.

[Cat Bailey]

The switch stuff, game consoles have literally been going up in price rather than down in price. Like, didn't the Xbox go up in price? Price?

[Andy Cortez]

True. I've always been kind of blown away by the price of Joy Cons anyway, though.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Like, yeah, Whenever I would, my nieces and nephew have a switch now it's like, oh, I want to get them Joy Concert 80. What the. Like, I was always blown away by that price anyway. So that it doesn't shock me that it went up $10 now or whatever, but, you know, it's a. It's a better piece of hardware.

[Greg Miller]

He's gonna put Paris Schneider in the poor house. So this man who buys every JoyCon.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, yeah, big deal.

[Greg Miller]

But again, like. And I. I'm carrying water. But for me, personally, like, this is the chilling effect of, like, okay, cool. I don't need that new Pro controller. My old Pro controllers work. I'm never gonna put an audio thing in, and I'm not a backpaddle guy, so it's like, not yet. No, not ever. It's just I have so many backpedals I don't use. I give away the PlayStation DualSense edges I don't even want. Anyways, moving on from there, we got into the big news. Game cards. They're the same shape as the game cards from Switch 1, but this time the red. And they're faster.

[Cat Bailey]

But a lot of speculation actually about whether they would be a different shape.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

And whether there would be compatibility with the Switch. The original Switch game cards. So in a way that's actually kind of a relief.

[Gary Whitta]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And more. I want to know how they taste. This is what I'm thinking of. Remember that?

[Snowbike Mike]

I'll find out.

[Cat Bailey]

The extra $10 is to make them taste good.

[Greg Miller]

Of course they will be using not Micro SD cards but Micro SD Express cards for storage this time around. I said yesterday that I was going to reformat my SD card and just use it here. Somebody blue Scott me was like, greg, I got bad news. They're not going to use that. They got me. But I really don't care. And of course you will have a transfer your data from Switch 1 to the Switch 2. We then revealed the Pro controller as we've already talked a little bit about. It has the C button, it has the back paddles and it has an audio jack. Andy, what did you think here as you looked at this Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller for $80?

[Andy Cortez]

Super stoked that there's back buttons. I think that was the first thing I was hoping to see. As soon as they spun that baby around, I was very excited about it. I've always enjoyed the their OG Pro controller. It's always felt really great. It's always been one of the more sturdy pieces of hardware I've ever used where it just. There's no bend to it. You never hear like plastic creaking in that Son of a gun. It's just like a real.

[Greg Miller]

Holds a charge.

[Andy Cortez]

Feels like a weapon. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The battery charges compared to whenever I would use back in the day. My DualShock 4 being like, oh my God. I wish everything operated like the Switch controller. Very excited about this. I'm. I guess the button remapping would be in the settings. Kind of like how you can remap any other button you want whenever you're like, oh man, A, A is B and B is A. You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Like, yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

What will be the app accessory that does that where I have to drop out of the game and go to this and change that. It'll be interesting to see what they have for that.

[Andy Cortez]

I'm very excited about it though. I'm glad that it's like there's just been so many surprises during this presentation that I would have never expected Nintendo to go. We need 120 frames per second, we need HDR and back paddles on our pro controller, especially because the last one didn't have that. Again, that was a long time ago. I wasn't even using back paddles back then. But it's still surprising to me that that's something they looked at and said, we want that on our next controller.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, we spoke about it yesterday of like, how do you improve upon that? It's already great. And just the audio jack would have been enough, right? The C button and the audio jack would be like, all right, cool. They didn't make many crazy changes to it, but the back paddles for me, fantastic. I can't wait to get one.

[Greg Miller]

One of the things they toss in here from a super chat. Remember, you can be part of the show. YouTube.com kind of funny games Detect Nation super chats and says, if the new pro controller has a central pivot on the D pad, then I will buy 4 more. Lmao.

[Andy Cortez]

I don't know anything about central pivots on D pad.

[Cat Bailey]

That's a. Tim was just a basic T cross, right?

[Greg Miller]

Exactly. There was no like, there's not like.

[Cat Bailey]

Your Xbox made platformers like not that great of an experience on it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, it's one of those reasons Tim's like the joker about controllers.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Just constantly trying to find a new one.

[Cat Bailey]

That would be great though, because I do like to play 2D platformers on NSO and whatnot. And I don't think the Pro controller is a great experience for that.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, that is true. Yeah. Now that I think of it, whenever I would, when I was in my Mario Maker 2 bag and I was just constantly playing that I was using my 8 bit dough sort of Nintendo Super Nintendo comparison controller or whatever.

[Greg Miller]

Moving on from there, the next big news was of course the June 5th launch date. Since then, we have found out pre orders open in one week from today. Right. That's. That's what I said earlier.

[Andy Cortez]

The ninth.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Correct.

[Cat Bailey]

Gotta register your interest. I did it.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly. Register. Yeah. We've already started our interest show that we've played games. Try to. I again, I appreciate them trying to figure out ways around scalpers. That's an interesting idea for it. I'm like, okay, what are we gonna do? How are you gonna get it?

[Andy Cortez]

I just laughed at the 50 hour thing because I don't know if I have 50 hours in. I guess if it allowed me to pick one.

[Barrett Courtney]

You haven't played 50 hours of video games on the Nintendo Switch.

[Andy Cortez]

I just don't know. Well, I'm on Tim's account now and I don't know like I'm in his family thing.

[Greg Miller]

So they're watching you. They know.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

They know what you're up to. They know what's happening over there. Another thing that had been pointed out earlier. I have a super chat about it. Jackie S M says a Japanese language only switch to 49980 yen which is around $333 US there's a go on. I heard somebody else talking about the Japanese system, saying that was about scalpers as well as they try to, you know, figure out how to get this system to fans and not just into the hands of people who want it.

[Barrett Courtney]

There's a multi language Switch available in Japan as well that is marked up and it's higher. I think people are theorizing that maybe this is another way to get around tariffs.

[Cat Bailey]

Specifically the system itself is in Japanese but you can still, I assume it's still region free. You can still play Switch 2 games on it. So just learn your hiragana and katakana, you're okay. And then with the settings and then just play games regularly.

[Greg Miller]

See, I got lost in the weeds now. Thank you bear for that. Yeah. Jackie was pointing out the Japanese system is $330 US conversion. All language system. Yes, 467 all languages. So that's how they are trying to figure out scalpers. But then also tariffs. Very interesting.

[Barrett Courtney]

Only Japanese accounts can be used on it.

[Greg Miller]

Chad is saying there you go, there you go.

[Cat Bailey]

So it isn't region free. That's a huge change. Yeah, that's a big change from the original Switch because the original Switch was fully region free to the point that you could go on the Japanese Eshop and download games onto it. So having a version that is strictly region locked to Japan. Wow. We're back in the what, the Xbox 360 era again. Don't love that.

[Greg Miller]

No, that sucks. Moving on though, we then wanted to talk about Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games. Of course they can have upgraded versions, upgraded visuals, et cetera, et cetera. We then listed off a bunch of them. You had Nintendo Nintendo Switch 2, Mario Party, Jamboree plus Jamboree TV. They announced Zelda, Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. They announced Kirby and the Forgotten Kingdom. Nintendo Switch to a Edition Plus Star Crossed World, Metroid Prime 4 Beyond Nintendo Switch 2 Edition, Pokemon. Zah. Nintendo Switch 2 Edition. What's somewhat convoluted again on the other side of this presentation was they went out of their way to point out that you can purchase the upgrade for Jamboree in that I purchased an upgrade pack for a lot of them and then it was okay, great, that's fine. And then we came out of it and it was, well, the Zeldas are going to be included if you have Nintendo Switch online accounts. So again, a little bit confusing as we get into it, but kind of what we expected. Now we wonder how much it'll all cost.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah, I guess we can only speculate.

[Greg Miller]

On that right now as I'm trying to dig around. Yeah, I believe so.

[Cat Bailey]

The thing that I'm happy to see and was kind of surprised about is it's more than just an upgraded graphically or a remaster. It includes a lot of new features, new games for example in Mario Party Jamboree and I. So I think that could have been a full priced standalone release. It basically is. So having an upgrade path is really nice. Yeah, I think. And it makes me excited for Nintendo Switch 2 Online editions for a lot of these different games. So I was kind of hoping that Scarvi would be shown in this one because Scarlet and Violet Pokemon Scarlet and Violet not good.

[Greg Miller]

Ran garbage, not good on the Switch.

[Andy Cortez]

Real gross looking.

[Cat Bailey]

So I think, I think another question that I have is will still, will Switch games run better just through backwards compatibility? Because I'm okay with not getting a Switch 2 edition. If say Scarlet, Scarlet and Violet can do a locked 30fps on the Switch 2 through backward compatibility.

[Andy Cortez]

I have a feeling that they will do whatever they were intended to do. But then obviously hardware would. Would prevent, you know, issue. You know, make Link's awakening run like dog whenever there's water on screen or whatever. I have a feeling that whatever the Switch 2 hardware does to these older Switch 1 games that they will run as they were intended, but you're not going to get just like this obviously 60 frame per second version. And I think that they're kind of setting the precedent as well with saying, hey, if there's any games that we want to make visually look better and run up to 60 frames and get crazy higher resolutions that those might be in the. Those are from now on likely going to be in this expansion pack or be in the online package and then games like Mario Party or anything that we're adding camera functionality or any sort of new mini games that that'll likely be the add on type deal.

[Cat Bailey]

You know, the chat says that Pokemon Gen 9, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet will be getting updates for the Switch 2, like maybe free updates. So. And I wouldn't be shocked if a Bunch of games are kind of like that was like. Well, we're. You're getting better FPS and that sort of thing and yeah, yeah, we're getting additional features if you get a switch to edition and then maybe 120fps support and whatnot. Which by the way awesome. I love that.

[Andy Cortez]

But I like. Oh gosh. To me the problems run so much cheaper than just like bad frame rate on that game. Like just like mountains and geometry just looking like ass the whole time.

[Cat Bailey]

No, that's a really ugly game from.

[Andy Cortez]

An art direction standpoint and I loved it anyway. You know, it's my ugly child.

[Cat Bailey]

People love to drag the Switch's hardware performance. There are really good looking games on the Switch. Scarlet and Violet looks horrible.

[Andy Cortez]

We've seen what devs can do when they have all the time in the.

[Cat Bailey]

World with Tears of the Kingdom versus Pokemon. Scarlet and Violet. They're not in the same universe.

[Greg Miller]

I'm seeing people say that Nintendo has. There it is. Thank you very much.

[Snowbike Mike]

I've been looking at.

[Andy Cortez]

I've been looking at Greg the whole time while talking and I see just the gif of him that gets posted everywhere with the math. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

He's equation. It's like I. I love this stuff because it always feels like election night at CNN where it's like there's all this stuff breaking and you're trying to find out what's going on. So when I see somebody say something, there's just no centralized hub anymore.

[Andy Cortez]

Right Cori?

[Greg Miller]

So Melissa with the Y has given me this link that not. This isn't against her. That's the Nintendo Switch thing. But it's so much stuff. It's the entire just page of it. So now I'm trying to figure out where they're talking about upgrades. But of course it's one of those damn web pages that goes as I go.

[Snowbike Mike]

They needed that Xbox when they did the. The big backwards compatibility support. Just an Excel spreadsheet of here's the game. This is what happens.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

And just give it to us like that.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Okay. In addition. Well that's that what we're talking about.

[Snowbike Mike]

Kirby gets a little more gameplay. That was exciting. I like that. Even though I don't know how much it's going to cost.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean for me the most exciting thing is somebody who did not fit finish Tears of the Kingdom. Tears of the Kingdom getting all these benefits and hdr. I know. I know.

[Andy Cortez]

Come the on man.

[Greg Miller]

As I know I said I know. All right. God damn.

[Andy Cortez]

No, he pissed us all off the cat.

[Greg Miller]

Like, that's true.

[Andy Cortez]

The year of Tears of the Kingdom. When we're reviewing it, Greg is like, look, we got to give an award to the game that isn't Tears of the Kingdom because we know that's going to win game of the Year.

[Greg Miller]

That's true.

[Andy Cortez]

And then Greg, you know, he fucked off for a while, then he came back and he was like, man, you know what?

[Greg Miller]

Here's the free updates for this. This is Barry showing me free updates to improve playability on Nintendo Switch 2 will be released for select Nintendo Switch games. By connecting your Nintendo Switch to the Internet, you'll get them.

[Cat Bailey]

Link's Awakening.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, that's awesome. So arms. Captain Toad, Odyssey. Super Mario 3D. World clubhouse games. Thank goodness. Legend of Zelda. Link's Awakening. Echoes of Wisdom, Game Builder Garage. New Super Mario Brothers. You, Pokemon, Scarlet, Pokemon Violet. Big Brain Academy. Brain versus Brain. Where the fuck is Animal Crossing?

[Cat Bailey]

Oh, my God. Yeah, the load times on that.

[Andy Cortez]

Fuck.

[Greg Miller]

Where's Animal Crossing?

[Cat Bailey]

The load times on that game are not good. They're not good. They're really long. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

God damn it. That's upsetting.

[Cat Bailey]

Switch to online edition with new content, please.

[Greg Miller]

Yes, yes, yes. Jumping over here. There's important information about compatibility of Nintendo Switch games within Switch to Status of compatibility test for Nintendo Switch games on The Nintendo Switch 2. Updated April 1, 2025. It looks great. There's Nintendo games. It's 122 partner games, over 15,000 games. There's not like a list here that I'm seeing. So you're fine. It's fine. Whatever. Moving back to it. Yeah. We went through this, so Jamboree. Cool. You get to put your face in there. Zelda. Better frame rate and HDR plus Zelda notes, which I'm. I'm. I'm a big dork for a second screen experience like that. It's in the Switch app. You can turn on guidance for gps. You can share your creations you've made via QR codes to download stuff. I'm like, okay, I don't hate that.

[Andy Cortez]

There'S a Korok under this rock.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Terrible AI voice. So we Absolutely.

[Greg Miller]

Global play data. You got a daily bonus on there again. I waited. I did. I knew this was coming.

[Cat Bailey]

Locations like shrines and koroks.

[Greg Miller]

Let's listen to the voice.

[Andy Cortez]

Guidance activated. Yeah. No, I mean, it just sounded like Google. I don't know. It doesn't sound like.

[Barrett Courtney]

Get it more in theme with Cell.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, for sure.

[Greg Miller]

Have tangled. Tell me where to go.

[Andy Cortez]

I downloaded Waze recently. Man, you can get all sorts of people talking to you.

[Cat Bailey]

Why do you have a voice? I love the sound effect.

[Greg Miller]

Good point. Yeah. Kirby and the Forgotten Kingdom. Like we said. Metroid Prime 4 Beyond Nintendo Switch 2 Edition. It'll have mouse controls. Andy. Yes. I never thought I'd see the day you guys are talking about that. Wanting that, asking for that. I was like, that'll never happen. That'll never happen.

[Cat Bailey]

Also it opens the door for Metroid Prime 3 to come to Switch because that was a motion control game. So I mean I'm not saying that it would be super easy to do, but you could do a lot of that with the mouse.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, true.

[Andy Cortez]

Super exciting.

[Greg Miller]

4K 60 or 1080, 120 frames HDR.

[Andy Cortez]

That's fucking crazy, man.

[Greg Miller]

Which one are you gonna play at?

[Andy Cortez]

120 frames. Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Greg Miller]

Have you heard this? Frames win games.

[Andy Cortez]

Frames do win games.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

100. 120.

[Greg Miller]

Here's what.

[Andy Cortez]

Here's what's gonna happen, man. Like like everybody's gonna. Everybody's been shitting on me. Like. And you can't even fucking tell the difference. Difference. You're gonna see the light once you get your hands on what it feels like to experience at 120Hz anything over 60 frames per second or 60Hz. Tim already told me like, dude, I would always on you, Andy. And like, you know, when we were hanging out, we went to the Final Fantasy concert. Greg. Tim was like, man, I. I've been playing. I forget what game he was telling me in 120Hz. He's like, it's really hard to go back. Dude. I'm telling you man, like, it's just.

[Barrett Courtney]

Impossible to showcase on a stream.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like all of that stuff. Like you have to see the screen in real life on your own hand.

[Andy Cortez]

Being what you'll notice the most. I'm not saying that you're going to be like I need every. To see every frame. But because there are extra frames, that means that the game will respond that much quicker to you hitting the button. And you're going to feel that when.

[Barrett Courtney]

You go back to 60 and you even get it. 120 frames per second on handheld mode for 720p though.

[Andy Cortez]

Insane.

[Cat Bailey]

That said, 720 is basically standard definition in this day and age. Yeah. Even on that screen.

[Andy Cortez]

But.

[Barrett Courtney]

And the screen is 1080 because we will get a 108060 FPS.

[Cat Bailey]

I think I'm okay with 1080, 60.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

It's still. I'm still mind blown that these are even specification options for.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm really glad that it's not like 10, 80, 30 and then 720, 60, 60 FPS. Just having 60 FPS is the baseline for me right now.

[Andy Cortez]

That's. It's so awesome.

[Snowbike Mike]

Get it up there.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Shout out to Wario 64 because what you want with that Excel spreadsheet does in fact exist.

[Snowbike Mike]

Nice.

[Greg Miller]

Nintendo Switch to compatibility list issues. And he has two different PDFs or yeah PDFs Nintendo Switch games that start up on Nintendo Switch 2 but include some in game compatibility issues. Games that start up games with startup issues on Nintendo Switch too. And they have a list of like the thing that's like handling it's being investigated. Being investigated. So if you're looking forward to playing Steven Universe Save the Light, it's got an issue.

[Andy Cortez]

L this makes a lot more sense for the fact that people. I don't know how credible any of this even was. I think it was fairly credible that Xenoblade Chronicles x had the 60 frame per second mode that was hidden.

[Greg Miller]

Hidden. Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Like that makes a lot more sense now. Obviously, you know, like there's a lot.

[Cat Bailey]

Of speculation when people found that.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Continuing on our walk, of course Pokemon's out popped up. It'll have better resolution and better frame rate. And then yeah, they talked about there being physical and digital versions of these enhanced versions. Plus you can buy the upgrade pack.

[Andy Cortez]

That makes me so happy because I did not expect Zoda have any of these upgrades. When we saw this direct, we all just kind of came to the conclusion and that's just based on how Nintendo has generally operated that this will be obviously the. The last sort of Bastion of Switch 1 visuals and performance for Pokemon. And the next big mainline Pokemon game will finally have have the Switch to upgrades and better frame rate and better resolution. And I, I'm just so kind of, I'm super stoked that that's going to happen already with this upcoming one for sure.

[Greg Miller]

Like, you know somebody who's excited for Zod to jump in and have it be the best version on Switch to like. Okay, cool.

[Andy Cortez]

Super exciting.

[Greg Miller]

From there we got our next new Nintendo game. Drum roll please, Mike. It's Drag and Drive. Now you might look at it online and say that's Drag X Drive. So clearly it's Drag Cross Drive. But Nintendo goes out of their way to put in their press release parentheses it's pronounced Dragon Drive. At which point I would say why didn't you put and in it? Why didn't you put an ampersand in there? Why don't you put a plus in there? I digress.

[Cat Bailey]

But it does sound similar to Dragon Drive, which honestly, I would be more interested.

[Greg Miller]

Dragon Drive would be classic if you're an audio listener. Dragon Joy Con 2 Mouse controls and enjoy a new experience by strapping into Dragon Drive. A new online 3v3 game experience. Dragon Drive challenges players to use mouse controls with both the Joy Con 2 at the same time to intuitively steer, speed up, perform tricks and make plays such as dunks. Get ready to gear up when Dragon Drive launches on the Nintendo Switch 2 this summer.

[Andy Cortez]

This is going to be similar to the time that everybody got to play like Skyward Sword and they're like, I don't want to use the waggle. Like this game looks so cool. And then I. The whole time I would remember, oh, you're controlling it with the weird kind of Joy Con movements. I don't want that. Like, this game looks like it's fun, but I don't know if I want that style of controlling. Think this looks kind of.

[Greg Miller]

This is another one that I look at and no, it's hoops. No offense to anybody I look at, I'm like, oh, this is clearly a packing. This is a free. Here's how you want to use the. The mousey controls. Oh, no. This is a. This is gonna be a game. There's gonna be a pay for.

[Barrett Courtney]

This is the new arms.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. Mike, is this doing anything for you as a sport?

[Snowbike Mike]

I mean, I have to be real with you. Greg said it the best of like you're gonna find me 12:00 at 10:30 or Tuesday at like 10:30 at night and I'm gonna be screaming at this game.

[Andy Cortez]

So. Yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. This does a lot for me, Greg. I. I love the gimmick from Arms and Beyond. I think this is something you look at. It's like, what is that fun gimmick that we're going to do here? It is. Yeah, you better watch out. I'm probably going to get addicted to this.

[Andy Cortez]

It's just going to be frustrating with like space to move. You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Like sitting there on your couch, little table. Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

It's just kind of, I guess like a mouse is the same thing.

[Greg Miller]

But Roger made a joke that they should. They were going to sell a Nintendo lap table and I'm still waiting for it. Cuz probably are for all this stuff. Barrett's roll us into the next section. It is of course the partners. This is where Nintendo said, you know what, it's not just all on us. We have a bunch of different partners and they started with Elden Ring Tarnished edition. Andy.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, this was one that we all kind of assumed or predicted. Like man, it would be awesome if they showed. I fell in ring a show. Like we are taking this third party serious now. Like there's been so many large publishers skipping out out on the first Switch. We want to show them, hey, you don't got to spend a whole lot of money to downgrade the shit out of your game. Like Mortal Kombat 1 looked on Switch 1. All of your games are going to be possible on this piece of hardware. And what an incredible way to show off how serious you're taking it than with one of the greatest games ever created.

[Barrett Courtney]

This entire section, it really hit me of like, man, the story of like Nintendo in the Switch era where you know, it wasn't. I don't know if it was Nintendo not taking third party seriously. I think a lot of third parties pre Switch 1 and going into the launch of the Switch 1 were very like we're not gonna focus on publishers.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like all these publishers doubting. And then to see them all showing up for this, it was like, damn. Look at the. Look at how much Nintendo has really turned things around.

[Greg Miller]

100%.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah. It's been coming all the way back and third party has always been really rough for Nintendo because. Because going back to the gamecube they haven't been really on par with the other consoles. So third party was like, well, are we gonna downgrade our games?

[Greg Miller]

Exactly. Go do more work for less. Return.

[Cat Bailey]

The story of Nintendo is Mass Effect 3 coming out on the Wii U for some reason rather than the trilogy. That's the kind of thing. And ea, EA in particular really skipped out on the Nintendo Switch. We were talking about how there was no Madden on the Switch, no NHL. I would love NHL on the Switch.

[Snowbike Mike]

Every sports game should be on the switches, right?

[Cat Bailey]

100 and there's still a lot of questions like will EA Sports FC be the downgraded version?

[Andy Cortez]

Of course.

[Snowbike Mike]

You and I will have that conversation. We'll get there for sure. There's going to be something like that is right. But it was a cool Avengers moment to see everybody kind of rally behind this big announcement. I mean it is the biggest stage, right? You talked about it. Andy of like, man, we only get so many Nintendo Switch console reveals. Right? And the scene, everybody gather here show off their biggest and baddest. I mean Elden Ring to start is such a big win. Right? We're gonna roll into Hades this is something you and I talked about, Greg, is like why I bought the Steam Deck was because I play a lot of third party games and I want that kind of to be in my everything console. And the Switch very much felt like I'm either buying Nintendo's first party titles because I know they'll run well, but when I jump onto a Monster Hunter Rise or anything else else, it just doesn't run well. And it's not a good system for me to be justifying a lot of these purchases. So I hope that we will get a better version of a lot of these than I got in the Switch one.

[Cat Bailey]

Maybe this year, but we'll see. Yeah, I think no Monster Hunter by the way.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, the Monster Hunter.

[Greg Miller]

Not shocking that I expected.

[Cat Bailey]

I wonder if this will end up being secretly the best version of Elden Ring because there are a lot of kind of weird problems with the PC version, some hitches and whatnot on the Steam Deck version. Correct me if I'm wrong, this is my recollection of it.

[Andy Cortez]

So no, it's never run Great. Elden FromSoftware is notorious for lacking in the in the tech department where they still don't have things like DLSS and you always have to go with mods to implement all sorts of more the more recent like rendering tech to make things run a little bit better. I was kind of shocked that we didn't see any Xbox stuff.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, game pass. I know some people were surprised they didn't see some of their pop up.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I think the fact that we had Doom and or Doom Eternal on the first Switch. I really expected to see the Dark.

[Cat Bailey]

Ages show up here or Halo because there were speculation there were rumors of Halo, a version of Halo Master Chief Collection on the Switch. And that's like. That's one that's as old as time. People have been speculating on that since the original Switch. So still hasn't appeared here.

[Andy Cortez]

That would take up the whole hard drive. Yeah, that's like 130 gig games.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Well the rumor was that it was going to be split into different parts. So you'd basically get maybe the original Halo and then you can buy the others.

[Greg Miller]

All a cart running through this partner section, right? Yeah. We said Elden Ring tarnished, tarnished edition. Hades 2 Street Fighter which confirmed they will have new amiibos.

[Snowbike Mike]

Amiibos. That was a wild one. I really thought we were moving on from that and never going to look back. I love that. I think that's fun and neat.

[Greg Miller]

I love that.

[Cat Bailey]

The best thing to come out of the Wii U or seriously.

[Greg Miller]

Then you had Damon Hatfield across Machina Split Fiction is going to be a launch game. Joseph Ferris was there to tell us about it. And feel free if you guys want to stop me to talk about anything.

[Andy Cortez]

That's a perfect partnered game for them to have 100%. I mean, what a. What a great title to. To have for families that are going to be in front of a couch playing on a singular machine. That's awesome.

[Greg Miller]

Yep. EA Sports FC and Madden will be coming to the Switch 2 at some point. No real details on that other than the announcement that EA support Hogwarts legacies. Whatever Super Edition was shown. That's gonna be a launch title as well for the switch to Tony Hawk 3 +4 will be coming to the Nintendo Switch 2. But more importantly, it's getting a Spongebob.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's getting a fucking Spongebob level, dog.

[Andy Cortez]

Hell yeah.

[Greg Miller]

That's what Barrett. I mean, you just make it better for Barrett. That's what it's all about.

[Andy Cortez]

What was so weird about that segment was I thought the sync was so off that a spongebob game was happening after what we saw. And I was like, oh, they're. They're teasing a spongebob game now. But then that didn't happen happen. It was like something else entirely.

[Barrett Courtney]

And it's. The weird way that they introduce it too is like, I think it's here.

[Greg Miller]

Where.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, they go here and then they drop in here. Like, I wonder if it's a secret area. Like, I wonder if they're teasing something like that in terms of maybe it's not a full level. Just like a fun little things that they're interjecting into a bunch of levels which would be fun, you know.

[Greg Miller]

Then Hitman World of Assassination was confirmed to be a launch game. But then definitely on my list of shame.

[Cat Bailey]

I've never not played a Hitman.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, wow, this is a great one. No better time to jump in right now than on the Nintendo Switch 2.

[Andy Cortez]

There's never been a better mouse control to hop into Hitman.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, but then they said that Project 007, the James Bond IO interactive project we know nothing about, but know is happening, but it's happening. Will be coming to Switch two as well.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. I had to hold my breath. I was like, oh my God, we're gonna see it. This could be insane at a Switch reveal. But you know, I love that it's coming to Switch to. Maybe we'll see more.

[Greg Miller]

I'd love to see more up Next was Bravely Default Flying Fairy Remastered. You pop for it. You got mouse minigames now in this one. Cat.

[Cat Bailey]

Mouse minigames.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. For the little thing they showed. Yeah. We were talking. There was so much happening.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm into it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Yeah. See, I think. There you go. Here's some mouse.

[Cat Bailey]

Underappreciated rpg. Buy it.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Cat Bailey]

Support more. Bravely Default. Bravely default to low Key. One of the best RPGs on the Nintendo Switch. Get. Give us Bravely Default 3. Support this game.

[Greg Miller]

Do it.

[Cat Bailey]

Thank you.

[Greg Miller]

You're welcome. Then Yakuza 0 Director's Cut will be a launch day title as well, but none of the other ones were confirmed. There is new cutscenes in this too, they said, which is neat.

[Cat Bailey]

How can they not have the full Yakuza series on this thing? It's everywhere.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I know, right?

[Cat Bailey]

It's on every platform.

[Barrett Courtney]

They'll do a slow, but I thought.

[Greg Miller]

It would be like the da, da, da. Here they are. But I guess, you know, it makes sense. Get people in there, get them hooked like so many other people have. From there, we moved on to a collaboration with Koei Tecmo. It is High Rule Warriors, Age of Imprisonment, a prequel to Tears of the Kingdom Coming this winter, you will play as Zelda and other characters in this Musou game. Barrett, what do we think?

[Barrett Courtney]

I think this makes sense for, you know, doing more Hyrule Warriors. I think it's awesome that this is the setting that they have chosen is Zelda's perspective essentially of what we see through Tears of the Kingdom. I know Andy, during the direct, you're like, oh, is this really the type of game we want for a prequel? And I think it fits, especially with Age of Calamity being kind of the prequel to Breath of the Wild. I think it makes sense here. And yeah, I'm down for Zelda Musou on a better hardware so that hopefully it runs more than 15 frames per second and. And, you know, I'm not a huge Muso head, but, you know, I love the crossovers that.

[Andy Cortez]

That they do.

[Barrett Courtney]

They're always so fun and creative of how they integrate other franchises into their gameplay. Like the Persona game as well. Yeah, I'm into this. This looks cool.

[Cat Bailey]

I hate Musou games. Hate, hate them.

[Greg Miller]

Wow.

[Cat Bailey]

I. I just. Just cannot get into the genre at all. But I have to give Koei Tecmo credit for. They've gotten really good, actually. They do a really great job with other franchises. And I think some people had questions about Age of Calamity's. Story, but we all have questions about Zelda's story. I want to play Zelda. I want to play as Tears of Kings of Zelda. I think it's cool that it's showing her story in its own game. That's cool.

[Andy Cortez]

It's like Lion King 1.5. Where were Timon and Pumbaa the whole time?

[Cat Bailey]

I want to know Nala's story basically. Well, Timba was off doing whatever.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

From there we moved on to your update for Nintendo Switch Online, which of course is coming to the Nintendo Switch 2. And it's coming with the expansion pass. And the Nintendo GameCube library is exclusive to the Nintendo Switch 2 Online. In the Expansion Pass, they confirmed three games for launch, Wind Waker Soul Calibur 2 and F0GX, which will include four player online and local multiplayer. And Barrett, you finally got it. There it is. Wind Waker.

[Barrett Courtney]

Not like this, man. This is disappointing. Again, I feel like similar to the Star Fox Racing game that was quote unquote leaked, which at this point I think it was Nintendo. Seeing who was leaking stuff internally, I think the Wind Waker Twilight Princess Wii U HD port, which was rumored when I was back at ign, I think might be a similar situation. To see it finally come through Nintendo Switch Online is a bit. Took the wind out of my sails here a little bit, Greg, which kind of sucks. I'll still play it. The big advantage specifically for Wind Waker HD was the Triforce Quest was definitely a Burden on the GameCube GameCube version and they improved it a lot in the Wii U version, which just makes the last third of the game a bit. A bit more smooth. I'll still play it though. Wind Waker kicks ass. And I, I truly missed that game. So it. I'll.

[Andy Cortez]

It would have been so cool to not see it and go, ah, that's cuz we know what's going on. But when it's the first thing you see, you're like, will that still happen? It's Nintendo. Maybe they still out that HD remake.

[Greg Miller]

Maybe they. Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Interesting that we see it here and no Twilight Princess whatsoever. I know people associate it more with the Wii, but it was technically also a GameCube game, so I don't know. Maybe. Maybe we'll see.

[Cat Bailey]

Those 18 got an HD remaster on the Wii U and people are wondering why the heck didn't come on Switch. Yep, it was pretty weird.

[Greg Miller]

Very weird.

[Andy Cortez]

When can I play Mario Galaxy 2?

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Well, I have good news for you. You will be able to play Mario Sunshine again via Nintendo Switch, Luigi's Mansion, and a bunch of other ones they put at the end saying more coming. But of course, you know, more are coming.

[Andy Cortez]

I would rather wrestle a tiger than play that little shit game.

[Cat Bailey]

I have a lot of questions about GameCube. So the NSO has significant input, delay, and will that be better on the Nintendo Switch too, I want to know.

[Greg Miller]

Well, if you spend $65 and get the GameCube controller that's coming on launch.

[Cat Bailey]

Day, they said the biggest question for that is for melee, because melee is a very precise game. So if melee is not that great on Nintendo Switch Online, that'll be a little bit of a miss. On the flip side, GameCube games relatively hard to play in a lot of ways, unless they came out as a remaster on the Nintendo switch. Games like S0G. Awesome to see. Fire Emblem, Path of Radiance. That game was practically impossible to find. I sold my copy a while ago for like $120 or something like that. And it's probably only gone up in price since then. Great Fire Emblem, by the way. So having this collection of games readily available, that's a huge, huge ad. And a lot of this game still look really, really good. Yes, Wind Waker is inferior on the GameCube to the Wii U version, but you should still play.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's pretty as hell though.

[Greg Miller]

Like, still looks great.

[Cat Bailey]

Look at this.

[Andy Cortez]

That's a game that'll just age perfectly forever, you know.

[Barrett Courtney]

Remember when everybody was mad about it, Andy?

[Cat Bailey]

Yes, we were stupid. Yeah, but gamers were stupid in 22,000.

[Greg Miller]

It's just the same.

[Cat Bailey]

And they're better now.

[Andy Cortez]

We're still stupid.

[Greg Miller]

I always thought it was great back in the day. I remember holding court in my college bedroom. It wasn't my dorm room. I was living the Antler House. But like, people just came in and watched me play that and they loved it. But I think the thing was the swerve right where they revealed the GameCube and they showed this realistic Gan and Link fight. We were all like, ah, what a.

[Cat Bailey]

And everything was darker and edgier and everything.

[Andy Cortez]

Because my stupid ass would have had the new Zelda game looking like the Darkness.

[Cat Bailey]

That's what everybody wanted.

[Andy Cortez]

It would have been stupid as hell, man. We would have looked back like, oh, why did we want that?

[Cat Bailey]

Shout out to Soul Calibur 2. The best soul caliber game. Link is overpowered in that one has an amazing single player mode. And if you have not played a soul caliber game, that's the one really, really good.

[Andy Cortez]

Hell yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Good to know. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Low key. Very fun to play with friends on the couch.

[Greg Miller]

From there we rolled back into more partners immediately. Barrett pop for Deltarune coming on launch day for the Switch 2.

[Andy Cortez]

Is that the first we'd ever seen of these dates? Barrett?

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, Toby Fox had been giving a lot of updates on like they have been bug testing chapters 3 and 4 which we've been waiting on for a while. 1 and 22 had been released previously. So yeah, this launching on Switch 2 and yeah, I think this is the entire game, right Cat. Like I thought there was more chapters after four, but maybe I'm.

[Cat Bailey]

My recollection is that it's one through four.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Cat Bailey]

There's been. Toby Fox has basically been teasing this for quite a while now. So it's a. It's a really nice win to have the secretly. One of the bigger announcements during this stream because there's a large, very large and very frothing fandom of undertale who have been waiting for this for a while now.

[Barrett Courtney]

Chad is correcting us, I believe. Yeah. My thought, seven chapters. Yeah, it's seven chapters because each chapter is.

[Cat Bailey]

Forgive me the week. Forgive me.

[Greg Miller]

How dare you.

[Barrett Courtney]

So yeah, it's crazy that this is still not the full game but there's still so much here. Like the chapters one and two I think were five to six hours.

[Cat Bailey]

Chapter.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, it's going to be a beefy game. So square.

[Cat Bailey]

Take note.

[Greg Miller]

From there we rolled on. Randy Pitchford popped up to tell you that in 2025 Borderlands 4 will launch on the Switch too. From there we rolled into Civ 7. Civ 7. Of course the Switch game already will have a Nintendo Switch 2. In addition, it'll come on launch day for the Switch 2. It'll be a paid upgrade. You will be able to use your mouse mike.

[Cat Bailey]

Click, click, click, click, click.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly. Then we had a little bit from 2K. They popped up to let you know WWE and NBA will be coming to the Switch 2 at some point. Don't worry about that. Special K90 became a member on Super Chats and said Take 2 must be excited to announce the NBA 2 K26 is 90 now. Can't imagine how much GTA 6 will cost.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah, I. I can't. Cat, let's put it down. You and I, we circle back maybe in a year when we start to see these sports franchises come out. What are they? Are they always going to be yearly? Can I bank on that as a Switch consumer? Will it maybe turn one day into the Greg Miller. Fantasy of a live service where we get these content updates and we do that. We know. But yeah. What is the future of sports games on Switch? Can I really rely on them to hit it yearly or will they this drop off quickly and all of a sudden they just abandoned that. It'll be fun to talk about for sure.

[Greg Miller]

From there you got into some quick hits. We saw survival kids. We didn't actually. Because the stream died. Then you saw enter the gungeon 2 get announced. Nice stars. Okay. Star Seeker Astroneer expand expeditions. Jesus. 2026 is coming out really quick.

[Barrett Courtney]

This is the VOD for the live stream. It's still just frozen here, which is. Man, that's rough. Rough stream for Kevin Fox.

[Andy Cortez]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Greg Miller]

Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition was announced and shown. It will be a launch day game for the one, the only. The Nintendo Switch 2 Final Fantasy 7 remake. Intergrade got shown Path of the Goddess Silk Song and a sizzle reel 2025. Keeping the hopes alive, everybody.

[Andy Cortez]

2025 being there is still unbelievable.

[Cat Bailey]

Like, what a tease.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh my God. And you know, Cat calling it right perfectly in that moment was hilarious.

[Cat Bailey]

I just thought it would be funny that it would be in the sizzle reel because Silksong is such a huge deal. And they said, no, it's still here. Yeah, coming.

[Greg Miller]

Still coming. Don't worry about it. Don't. It's happening. Then it was this rapid fire here, right? Barrett's showing it. Story of Seasons. Good Night Universe Two Point Museum Wild Hearts coming July 25th 5th. Wild Hearts S. Was that what the full title was?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, which I'm. You know, it's got to be their own Switch version with maybe more additional stuff in there.

[Cat Bailey]

Surprising given that EA just completely abandoned that game really fast.

[Snowbike Mike]

Real fast.

[Andy Cortez]

Hey, there is a monster hunter. Turns out on Switch.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, let me get you.

[Andy Cortez]

I mean, all these enemies look the same, so maybe not. Maybe it's not a full sequel.

[Greg Miller]

But Wild Hearts S is actually coming this time around from Bandai Nail. Or. No, no. Koei Tecma. Sorry. Or they made it all.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, they did. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Let me see what's in here.

[Andy Cortez]

Great character creator in that game. Koei Tecma always has amazing character creators heard.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Wild Hearts s players master ancient tech to hunt down the giant beast in an imaginative world inspired by feudal Japan. Hunt in a pack of up to four players in seamless co op. Or play as a lone wolf to fight the fearsome beasts. Yeah, same thing as always. That's cool. Good. Good for Them then hopping back over to where we were. I already said which Wishbrook? Poyo Poyo. Tetris got a version. Rune Factory. Marvel Cosmic Invasion. They showed Star Wars Outlaws. No Bugas Revenge. Fast Furious. Did I kick something Fast? Fusion Fast and Furious. I did. I was just doing what Bear was doing. Shadow Labyrinth. Rados. I wrote no Sleep. I don't think that's the name of the game. They were coming too fast. Reanimal Fortnite Arcade Archives.

[Andy Cortez]

Typing your own thoughts?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, exactly. Tamagotchi something or other Human Fall flat. Hey, man, I wrote. What I wrote a lot of stuff there, Cat.

[Cat Bailey]

What was the Arcade Archives game again?

[Andy Cortez]

Good challenge right there.

[Barrett Courtney]

Arcade Archives to Re Drace.

[Snowbike Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

It's Rage Racer. It's not a Switch. It's not a console release. Unless that's Ridge Race. I feel really good about Professor Lane. Good to see you back.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Oh, that was Pro Layton that I wrote. I was like. When I was reading my bullet points, like, I don't know what that means. Keep moving.

[Snowbike Mike]

Keep moving.

[Greg Miller]

And then, of course.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, it wasn't Tomadochi Life. It was the. It was Tamagotchi Son. Tamagochi.

[Greg Miller]

The final one. Not really, but their last partner title. The Dusk Bloods. Andy, take it away.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, there's been a lot of. I don't know if we have any press releases.

[Greg Miller]

I'm. I was hoping you would just talk about what you thought so I could look for the press specialist.

[Andy Cortez]

Still completely shocking. I didn't recognize the art style and just kind of the way their characters are rendered. And there was also a stunning lack of ah. So that's why I was like, this isn't a FromSoftware game. We need somebody to say ah and then laugh at the end of their statement. But I'm still completely blown away. I thought it was going to be a Castlevania sort of remake. Weird. Sort of a cool. Holy shit. What an awesome joining of worlds. But. But yeah. A brand new ip, a brand new video game. Not a sequel, just a new thing for. Exclusively on the Switch, too.

[Barrett Courtney]

Really quick.

[Andy Cortez]

When you have a shot like this.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's like, this is Castlevania game, right?

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

We read from the Verge, where Antonio writes from software, is making a multiplayer Switch 2 exclusive called the Duskbloods. It's directed, of course, by Miyazaki. The Duskbloods, a new game from. From Software, is coming exclusively to Nintendo Switch 2. The teaser trailer debuted when. See the. Damn it. I thought. I thought they had the press release. There's A press release over there. Somebody's calling out Melissa with a Y.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, many people are still. There's a lot of people saying that it is a multiplayer PvE PvP game.

[Cat Bailey]

So like Elden Ring, Night Rain.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, no, that's not PvP.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

PvP.

[Cat Bailey]

Okay. Yeah, that's PvE. So this is PvP PvE.

[Snowbike Mike]

So it's like Coliseum like we talked. Like I talked about with Night Rain. What's the elevations and different gameplays.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Here we go. Thanks to Melissa. The Y. I got your information here. Right.

[Andy Cortez]

Thank you, Melissa with a Y.

[Greg Miller]

2020 developed for the upcoming Switch 2, the Duskbloods is a PvPVE title with online multiplayer at its core, where up to eight players vie for supremacy among themselves and against challenging foes. Play as the Bloodsworn, a group that has transcended human strength thanks to their special blood, and throw yourself into a violent fray for first blood as the twilight of humanity approaches. Currently 2026. Hope you look forward to it.

[Andy Cortez]

Makes me way less excited. I don't want. I don't want a PvP thing in my from Software game. Like obviously from software have. Have always had duels and things like that, but I don't want that to be like a part of the core game. I want to experience a new universe with awesome new lore and storytelling. Sure. Not. Not what I want, but I'm still stoked to get.

[Greg Miller]

What do you think? What do you think the chances are you eat those words, words that you get into this and you're like, we.

[Barrett Courtney]

Did kind of eat them on Night rain.

[Andy Cortez]

I guess. PvE has always been different for me because I've played multiplayer from software games and for me it was more of the. The. The worry factor for me for Night Rain was more of like, ah, you. This feels like a. A bastardization of something that's so special to me and you're just kind of going for roguelite, blah, blah, blah. And it still obviously worked because we've played multiplayer Elden Ring plenty. We played seamless co op plenty. And it's always a blast to play Elden Ring and Souls games with friends. Adding the PvP nature of it, I feel like just adds, you know, it depends on how it's implemented. Obviously. I think if you're constantly running around and you're seeing other people doing their thing running around. I just don't know if I want that out of my. Out of my. From software experience.

[Cat Bailey]

I agree with the chat. Let Miyazaki cook. I think that the online multiplayer space badly Needs innovation and I really appreciate that from software. Amazing, incredible single player with a actually pretty decent online pedigree is going and really trying to innovate in that space. First with Night Rain and now with this. And what it sounds like is that you have have kind of an interesting world or arena that you're playing with other players. Maybe almost a battle royale situation filled with the classical from software level design. Enemies, bosses. Question mark.

[Greg Miller]

There has to be, right? Oh yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

We definitely saw a gigantic wolf looking dude.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah, it sounds like a really interesting mixture of elements and I don't know how confused it's going to be but I mean it's from software there.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm with you cat.

[Greg Miller]

I like Andy.

[Snowbike Mike]

I like them. I want them to try different things.

[Andy Cortez]

Right.

[Snowbike Mike]

I think we know the bread and butter. We know they're going to go back to the single player games all the time. We're going to get those epic experiences. But to see them try something different and really try to innovate in the space that you and I, Andy, we want them to be better at, which is the online multiplayer connectivity.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh yeah.

[Snowbike Mike]

And make that a little bit smoother. I love that like right now we are seeing them throw some things at the wall and say hey, hey, how do we at least try? And so I love that Night Rain is that hey PvE. We got squad of three. We're gonna go out and have some fun. I'm interested in this of like is it eight solo combatants running around a giant arena and there's that fun push and pull that you always get in a Dark Souls game of somebody invades you and it's the tiptoe of who's gonna. Who's gonna strike first, who's gonna step forward at me. I love the idea of maybe me creeping up behind someone, someone maybe looking across the battlefield at one or two other people and seeing how we're going to engage with each other. You talk about a cat like Miyazaki and this team at FromSoftware have really made an incredible combat system that is fun and difficult to master. And it's so engaging moment to moment that I would love to be able to battle others. I I liked Dark Souls with their online arena combats and the idea of taking that to another level of school.

[Andy Cortez]

For me, I whenever. This would all be amazing to me if it wasn't the year 2025 because when I think of the way multiplayer games work nowadays, three days in there's like there's an established meta. What's the meta what's the bet? And that's like, that's the thing that ruins the experience for me. And I think you have to take this game more seriously because they say it is led by Miyazaki. This is the fucking dude who could be working on whatever he wants right now. And he's working on this game game. And that adds a lot of pedigree and that adds a lot of excitement. But then on the flip side of it, the reason why I was a lot cooler with Night Rain is because I'm like, well, Miyazaki is not working on this. Miyazaki we know is cooking the next big thing. And it's very likely. He likely is still making the next big thing over there. That is going to be their cross platform gigantic experience. I just hope this isn't the only thing he's working on.

[Cat Bailey]

I just got to show some respect from software. A studio that is not going to rest on established franchises. It has a style, has a house style. It knows who it is. That's good. But it's innovating. It's trying new things. It's going out and making interesting experiences. And frankly, I'm here for it. Because too many studios are playing it really safe because they feel like they have to from software is consistently playing with house money. So yeah, I'm in. Yeah, I want to see what this is.

[Andy Cortez]

If anything, I'm with Mike where it's like, this may not be the exact thing I want want. I'm just excited that they are stepping out of their. Our multiplayer systems have always sucked.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Night Rain kind of being well Elden Ring making things easier. And even then it's not easy to do. It's perfect. You have to go farm a little flower to summon a friend in. Like, it's always sucked. And then when they talked about when they're asked, hey, have you seen this? The seamless PC mod. And they're like, yeah, it's kind of neat. Where you know, we would love to bring experiences like that in the future.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Night Rain gets debuted and we're like, holy shit. Whoa. They were serious. They had always been working on something to not make multiplayer a pain in the ass to join up with friends and this being another option. Like, if anything, this isn't exactly what I want from the next big from software Miyazaki led project. But it shows me that they're taking multiplayer serious, which makes me very excited that I don't have to go farm a goddamn jewel cave, you know, And.

[Snowbike Mike]

I'm sure we'll Talk more about it because we're kind of funny. We really love Souls games, so I'm sure we'll go deeper. But like the guns turning into a T. Rex, like, these are things are not really seeing often in the Souls Born genre that we see in these games. So I like this.

[Andy Cortez]

It reminded me of making the dragon out of your hand when you're doing like dragon spells.

[Cat Bailey]

I think it'll be like a battle royale where sometimes you're fighting each other, but then sometimes you find yourself in a situation where you're fighting an enemy together and maybe you can get some rewards for doing so.

[Andy Cortez]

Absolutely.

[Greg Miller]

Dark Zone.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it reminds me a lot of a lot of other PvP VE games where it's like, hey, I know you want to kill me right now, but there's this big thing that we could take on. You know, we'll see how that.

[Cat Bailey]

Stab me in the back.

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. It's going to be a lot of Mike tactical crouching, like, please be on my team. Help me out. Help me out here.

[Greg Miller]

We then moved into Kirby Air Riders. A brand new title originated from the Nintendo GameCube classic racing action game Kirby Era. Of course. Zachariah, the director of Super Smash Brothers series, was announced and it was announced to release this year. The trailer revealed a dramatic introduction of Kirby on his Warp Star machine and other Kirby Air Riders on a variety of unique machines as they join together on a racetrack. Kirby Air Riders will glide onto Nintendo Switch 2 in 2025. And Kat, you called it.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah, I guess I did.

[Greg Miller]

You called a lot of things that people were excited about.

[Cat Bailey]

Well, in fairness, I was looking at the chat and somebody said, Kirby are right too. And I'm like, oh, that sounds about right. Right? And sure enough, Sakurai loves Kirby so much. He loves it because of his history with Iwata and HAL Laboratory and everything, so. And it. He's kind of wanted a break, I think, from Smash Brothers. He's been very open about how hard he's been working on those games and how much is taken out of him. He did a really Wonderful series on YouTube that you should definitely go and watch because he made it, he financed it himself as a gift to the games industry and a piece of really lovely history. So. So look, I don't know actually that much about Kirby Air Ride came on the GameCube in 2003. I guess it was a LAN multiplayer game. I'm one of the handful of them, so pushing the technology forward as usual. But it's just nice. It's nice.

[Greg Miller]

Kirby's cute. Every loves Kirby. When this happened though, my main thing was like, I hope this isn't the last. One more thing. I don't want to end on Kirby Air Riders. Personally. This is a non Kirby aficionado. So when they debuted Donkey Kong Banana, at first I thought it was Mario. I got super excited, realized it was Donkey Kong, got kind of disappointed and then let it play and I was like, God damn. This is a game. Get ready for Donkey Kong Bonanza. A brand new 3D platforming action adventure available exclusively on Nintendo Switch 2. Crash Bash and climb through nearly everything in DK's Path and Tear off chunks of terrain to swing around and throw in groundbreaking exploration. The more that is demolished with powerful punches, the more areas open up to discover cover. Break on through this adventure full of mayhem, surprises and bananas. When Donkey Kong Bonanza crashes onto Nintendo Switch on July 17, 2025.

[Cat Bailey]

DK, he's back. DK.

[Andy Cortez]

Break it through all these environments. All of the, you know, reminiscent of, you know, having the way you can break through ground and walls and stuff in survival type games. Like it's just so cool to see man, they're really trying to explore how much they can push this tech because that's really expensive to do on hardware to you know, to have everything sort of breakable and you know, you're seeing so much destructibility. You know, it's. It's evolution. Mike.

[Barrett Courtney]

It seems because there was the Mario Odyssey mechanic where you could like there was like the yellow bricks or whatever that you could like throw stuff at and it would break. It seems like they really with that and they're like let's make an entire game around that.

[Andy Cortez]

Which is. I hope so B. Cuz like the amount of joy that I found, I mean I can't imagine how am amazing it's going to feel with the HD Rumble. Because the amount of joy I found through just walking through a shitload of marbles in Astrobot and feeling all of the vibrations and stuff, this seems like it's going to be very similar to that where you are breaking through gigantic cliff face and there's a bunch of collectible coins and all of that. It's just like sensory overload. This game looks like it's just. It's going to be non stop serotonin hits.

[Cat Bailey]

I just saw the Donkey Kong country level and that makes me think that this is Donkey Kong's answer to Mario Odyssey.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

A celebration of all things Donkey Kong. Going back to the very beginning, there will be a Donkey Kong level where you're. Where you're Donkey Kong throwing the barrels at Mario. Oh, that was calling it right now. And that would actually be pretty cool. Set jump up superstar.

[Andy Cortez]

I was going to say maybe we get a little sticker bus symphony callback or something like that. That.

[Cat Bailey]

But I think we were already talking about this earlier. Nintendo really wants to revitalize Donkey Kong as a concept. That's why he was such a big part of the Super Mario movie. I mean there's been rumors of a Donkey Kong movie separate from all that because they see it as a huge part of their history. And he is Big, big part of their history going back to the Universal lawsuit in what the like 1980s. So from John Kirby. John Kirby was.

[Andy Cortez]

But yeah, I would have never expected Donkey Kong Land to be the next Nintendo theme park being created. Right. So like the fact that that is the. It all just kind of makes sense. They are going for this marketing push.

[Cat Bailey]

Miyamoto, right?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

That's Miyamoto's game.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Marin, the Super Chat Mar in the super chat says DK Bonanza feels like a complete reboot of the DKIP new art style. No signs of Diddy or the rest of the DK crew. K Rule or any crush.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. Where's K Rool?

[Cat Bailey]

I think they'll come back.

[Greg Miller]

You think so?

[Cat Bailey]

I think they'll be in there. This looks like a multi world kind of setup. Maybe similar to Odyssey. You see how they're showing different areas and spinning the camera around. So I think that there will be areas that have the Kong Clan in there and the. The King K Rule and whatnot. So we're just not seeing them right here. Because they want to keep the focus on the Levolution. Let's call that. Somebody called it Red Faction Gorilla.

[Greg Miller]

That' good job.

[Snowbike Mike]

No, they did a great job.

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah. I really appreciated that. So I think they wanted to keep it focused on that. But I bet they'll show up in some level. Like I said, Celebration of all things Donkey Kong.

[Greg Miller]

And that ladies gentlemen and ENB's was your Nintendo Switch to direct. So much has happened while we've been live. We of course rated in the beginning Andy at 10 the 9.5s down the line. Once we figured out we could do that does are we still stick? How do you want. How do you tackle that in your own head Cannon? Because I feel like it was a great presentation. An amazing presentation. And then since then that's where we're getting the left center rights right of. Here's what the pricing is going to be. Here's what's going on over there. I don't think it changes what the presentation was, but it's definitely left a different air around us as we wrap up here and go into games 9, 5.

[Andy Cortez]

I'll go down to. But then I remember Silk song back to 10.

[Greg Miller]

But again, it's the presentation where. You know what I mean? It's a weird one. It's a weird.

[Barrett Courtney]

In terms of presentation. I would keep it at a 9. Just the presentation in and of itself. How I'm feeling after all of this would be like a 7.5.

[Greg Miller]

Oh wow.

[Andy Cortez]

Kind of sleepy, you know.

[Barrett Courtney]

Well, just in terms of pricing, in terms of game pricing, the, the context and why that's happening and what that's going to lead to in the future. That has brought me down a lot for sure.

[Cat Bailey]

So I've been through a lot of these con, these launches and there's always a lot of discourse whenever they announce prices, announce a lot of things. I have no doubt that the price will be a huge discussion point all the way up into the release of the Switch. Too bad. As always, it's about the games. Yeah, it's about the games. Nintendo seems to know that this time around they've put a huge focus on the games. Really good third party partnership. Really strong mix of first party games between Mario Park, Mario Kart World and the Nintendo Switch online upgrades. And also Donkey Kong. If Donkey Kong is the Astrobot of this year, if it's on a Mario Odyssey level. Yeah, no one's going to be talking about that. They'll all be talking about Donkey Kong and how you have to play the best game of the year on the new Nintendo Switch, which by the way has 120fps and blah blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Snowbike Mike]

Hell yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

So if the games live up to the hype, then they'll be fine.

[Greg Miller]

Do you see this cat being a thing that immediately reverberates throughout the industry? Are we going to see PlayStation Xbox immediately jump up to 80?

[Cat Bailey]

Yeah. Nintendo knows what's happening. They're setting expectations. It's going to. And other platform holders are going to follow suit. I would not be shocked if going forward, a lot of games start retailing for $80 or $100 in the near future. This is it. Prices are going up. This is the first wave of the trend that's going across the entire games industry and frankly has been for a little while now.

[Andy Cortez]

Just wait to buy that Micro sd, whatever card, Express card, Black Friday deal. Right. You can get A good Black Friday deal.

[Greg Miller]

That's probably the cheapest thing you buy for this game. That's going to be the cheapest, most easiest thing you buy. 60 bucks exactly right. Mike, you love swiping the card. Is this price. Has it brought down your hype?

[Snowbike Mike]

Yeah. The presentation wise I'm still going with amazing. 9 out of 10 9.5 thrust. I'd the think the presentation was a lot of fun. My feelings after this, I'm sitting at about an 8A great. I was really pleased with this. I'm feeling good about the games. I'm excited to get there. I'm not the biggest Nintendo guy so if I was I'd probably be a little bit higher. But like right now I walk out of this going Nintendo Switch to hey that's great.

[Greg Miller]

I'm there with you presentation. I think it was outstanding right then to get here and have all this and like I'm still, I'm still excited. I still can't wait. It sucks. Yeah that games are more but then in the long it's this whole conversation of well, well $10 more than what it would normally be. Right. And then there's a million super chats I've gone through. I'm trying to get Nicholas wrote in and said the price increased is harshest. On Nintendo's core demo which is kids, $60 was prohibitive. $80 is almost a full barrier to entry. Sales will be big. It's this push and pull of like again being an adult, being an old person. Like okay, 10 more dollars than what I'm paying for other games. Sucks but isn't back breaking. Of course the economy's in a very different spot. Where will it be by the time this launches? Who knows, yada yada yada yada. But to get back to the kids thing, it's an interesting discussion in how many is it going to be that every game on the Switch 2 is $80 or is it just Nintendo's games? There's a lot to figure out and sift.

[Cat Bailey]

There'll be digital only games. I'm sure that will not be $80.

[Snowbike Mike]

We're living in a world right now where free to play games are really dominating the market as well. And people these kids, the younger youth are playing free to play titles like Fortnite, Roblox, they're on Minecraft, they're playing games that aren't these bigger titles. So we'll see. See they still have the goods. We know they have great games. But if I can see where we're.

[Greg Miller]

At Jack that's too gone. It's too. The chat's moving too fast. CJ splits on was saying to be fair and it's not a knock against kind of funny. Most the gaming press gets their games for free. Ah, not Nintendo games. Nintendo sends us one review code and then maybe we're lucky two for the others. So no, this actually does hit kind of funny. I buy a lot of it. Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

I'm not downplaying the price.

[Greg Miller]

No, no, no, not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

I think that's that video games in general become harder and harder for people because the economy is going to get worse.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Nintendo also though has jealously guarded the value of its games because there's a flip side problem that the games industry has which is that games come out for $70 and then immediately drop to like 10 or 15 on the latest sale. Nintendo doesn't do that. People find that really irritating. But Nintendo. But it has worked for Nintendo because it is kept their games from being devalued, has kept people from going, I'll just wait for the sale.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

So it's tough. It's a tough one out there. Video games are a premium, very expensive hobby. They're a luxury item and it's hitting Nintendo too.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Jeff Bull Jr. Calls out that the yen is not doing good right now. Maybe another reason prices are so high globally. An interesting wrinkle that we're going to cover a million different things. But I want to try to give you a comprehensive gamescast. Before Paris and Gary come to talk about games daily, there is one going around about game key cards. Has anybody seen these? Nintendo Switch to Game key card overview. Game key cards are different from regular game cards because they don't contain the full game data. Instead, the game key card is your key to downloading the full game on your system via the Internet. After it's downloaded, you can play the game by inserting the game key card into your system and starting it up like a standard, standard physical game card. Basically if you went to the store rather than buy a box with a voucher code in it, you'd be buying a game key card so that you couldn't, you can't just share the card, you can't just shit. It's. It's drm. It's just a new drm, but a physical drm.

[Cat Bailey]

They've been. I mean this kind of technology has existed for quite a while, hasn't it? There have been plenty of games that are in the box basically, but you have a download that you need to Do, Sure.

[Greg Miller]

But this one makes you keep the. The card. Right. So this is the idea that before I would have bought it and I would have had the physical code. Great. Or I'm sorry, I would have bought the code out of the physical box, put it on my system and then it's just a digital game. This is, oh, I want to play the game I bought with a game key card. I need to go into my library of game key cards. But that game key card into my system you just keep. Which would make me go, no, I'm never buying a game key card. I'll just buy the digital code.

[Snowbike Mike]

Stop it.

[Cat Bailey]

Now they're making it harder and harder to be a physical game holder.

[Greg Miller]

They are. That is 100% correct.

[Cat Bailey]

Also, the additional premium for buying physical games as well. Well, it's kind of rough.

[Greg Miller]

100%. A couple more super chats to get you out of here. Patrick wrote in and said might be alone, but Nintendo's crappy business practices suck the oxygen out of this one. New pricing of games plus upgrade costs of old games equals. Oof. And I don't think you're alone, Patrick. But I do think it'll be interesting to see how much that actually gets in the way of this being a runaway success. Everybody buys it in their crazy.

[Cat Bailey]

That's all people are going to talk about.

[Andy Cortez]

Which is why I was so shocked by the. Play this game with your friends and they don't have to buy a copy. I think everything else has spoken to hey, you got money, you'll be fine. Everything else in that presentation showed that they don't really give a damn. But except for that moment that's the one that stood out to me is like weird. I'm shocked they don't make them make your friends pay more, you know.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Taking a step back is a very different environment from 2017. Really quickly. There's a lot of dedicated handheld PCs. It's not as unique. A lot of people have moved over to mobile. So there are actually a fair number of questions facing switch 2. Their biggest weapon is that they have the first party exclusives.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Cat Bailey]

Nintendo games.

[Snowbike Mike]

We talked about the competition. Me and Greg of like, this is a different world now. There's a lot of people in this little handheld space. But yeah, the first party games really drive it.

[Andy Cortez]

And I think Mike brings up a great. Brought up a great point earlier that, you know, the. This being harshest on families. I don't really know if the price would have necessarily really mattered because families are still families who aren't Watching, you know, gaming new shows and aren't really fully in the know. Go. All you do is play Fortnite. Play that on your PS4. You already do that all the time anyway. Yeah, no, you're not getting a Switch. You play on your Xbox all the damn time. You play Roblox on your. On the laptop I bought you five years ago. You don't need it.

[Greg Miller]

Well, see, I think that our argument a different direction that I think is interesting. It goes back to Matt Piscatella being on this show from Circana and talking about attach rates. Right. I would see it being the parents. 450 bucks for a Switch to. It's a Christmas gift. It's a birthday gift. I know how you played your Switch one for hours and it gave me mom a peace of mind to be able to talk while you did that. Right, we'll get you that. Plus it plays all your old games. Plus you can keep playing Fortnite, which you're obsessed with. And then once, twice a year there's some Nintendo game that you want on that. And that's even stretching it right for the. The way the kids in my life engage with their Switch where it is. Sure, Zelda, but. But like I guess that would be the one game then right? Like then it's like are they paying attention to the overall industry that this is actually more expensive than what a standard PS5 game would be at the moment. But who knows about the like. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot that we're gonna have to suss out as we go on there.

[Barrett Courtney]

Really quick. Do you want to see the home screen?

[Greg Miller]

Yes, I. I have seen it. Go for it. It's.

[Cat Bailey]

It's groundbreaking. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, there it is, man.

[Cat Bailey]

Can you please upgrade this? Can we have the themes? How is this the same as it was in 2017?

[Greg Miller]

You will be able to get themes for $10 extra. One theme that's included with Nintendo Switch Online but the other ones will be $10 extra.

[Cat Bailey]

Why does they have to be so boring? Nintendo, come on. What are you doing? Be the fun ones.

[Greg Miller]

Throw them up. Volk Dasher, Super Chat and said price and from Soft Game being an online multiplayer game have had a bit of a downer on me. But still first day pre order. It's Nintendo. They got the magic. And that will be the super Chat. We leave you on to figure out what's going on there. Of course as prices are continuing to be all over the place in terms of what's going on and where it's going on. Ladies, gentlemen and enbies, thank you so much for joining this episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast. Remember, each and every weekday we come to you with a brand new episode of the Gamescast, talking about the biggest topics in the industry. Usually it follows Kinda Funny Games Daily, which gives you all the nerdy news you need to know about. But today you're gonna get it after the fact here with Paris and Gary. If you're on YouTube, there'll be a new link for you. If you're on Twitch, you can just keep watching. If you're listening later on podcast services around the globe, please consider like subscribing and sharing. Leave a comment on Spotify and of course pick up the kinda funny membership. $10 gets you all of our shows ad free and a daily dose of me in a series we call Greg Way. Kat Bailey, you have been fantastic today. Where can people keep up with you?

[Cat Bailey]

Thanks so much. Follow me on blueskyatt Bailey I have a podcast called called Acts of the Blood God. It's an RPG podcast. Have tons of switch to discussion over there and we also just recorded a big three hour podcast about Cyberpunk 2077 for our patrons. So let's play it on Switch too and then listen to that. Patreon.com Bloodgot Pod thank you Mike and.

[Greg Miller]

Andy, thank you as always for your service.

[Snowbike Mike]

Thank you Greg for a great morning. Thank you to Kat for coming in so early and hanging out with us. Shout out to Barrett. Running I had a great day. I had a great time. Well my day's not over.

[Greg Miller]

I was gonna say. Remember you get like maybe an hour and a half break the way Gary talks and then you get to go play Pokemon with Nick the rest of the day.

[Andy Cortez]

I know why you agree to that. You stayed up playing.

[Snowbike Mike]

What was the game schedule?

[Andy Cortez]

Schedule one.

[Greg Miller]

How late were you up?

[Snowbike Mike]

30. We were working it.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, Jen went to bed at like 9:30. I was like, you know what, that sounds like a good idea. It still took me like an hour to wind down. But I was right.

[Snowbike Mike]

It doesn't matter.

[Greg Miller]

Ladies, gentlemen and enbies, that's been another episode of the Kind of Funny Games Cast. Until next time, it's been our pleasure to serve.