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Tim Gettys
What's up? And welcome back to the Kind of Funny Games Cast live for Wednesday, December 4, 2024. Happy Jay Z's birthday to you all, everybody. Of course I am Tim Gettys. No, definitely not. And I'm joined by blessing Adio Jr over the Nitro rifle, Andy Cortez and the big daddy himself, Greg.
Greg Miller
I married Beyonce.
Tim Gettys
Bless. How are you doing today?
Blessing Adio Jr.
I'm doing good. Do we still. Do we still mess with Jay Z? Do we not cancel him after all the Illuminati stuff?
Tim Gettys
I mean, was any of that proven? Was any of that even like, kind of? I feel like we skirted that line in a way where there was a week of like, yo, he's going down.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Once onto the next one came out, I was like, oh, they might be right.
Tim Gettys
They might be right onto the next one.
Blessing Adio Jr.
There's some hidden messaging in there. I don't know.
Tim Gettys
Now we fuck with blue pen 3 this house. But remember, this is the Kind of Funny Games cast, everybody. Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the Kind of Funny membership on Patreon or YouTube to get Jay Z.
Greg Miller
So much, but not Curtis Blow. Just saying.
Tim Gettys
I think he gets a lot of love.
Greg Miller
Not enough.
Tim Gettys
Yeah, watch us record them live or get a daily exclusive show. For a chance to be part of the show, submit your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super super chats as we go. Little housekeeping for you. Some exciting stuff, y'all. We're reviewing Indiana Jones and the Great circle Thursday at 4pm Pacific time as a YouTube premiere. That's right. It will not be on twitch. It's on YouTube.com kind of funny games at 4pm Pacific on Thursday and then podcast services right after that. This is due to embargoes, dude. I was trying our best to get things out there and as clean away as possible. So we appreciate your patience there, but it's going to be a good one. Can we say who's reviewing that?
Greg Miller
I've been saying I've been playing it. Yeah, I'm reviewing it.
Tim Gettys
Greg Miller in Paris.
Greg Miller
Lily's long too. I'm not sure how much Paris has played. We'll find out.
Tim Gettys
Exciting times. Can't wait to hear what you think. Remember, we are an 11 person business. All about live talk shows Today. After this you are going to get. Of course it's a Wednesday. You're getting some War Zone, baby. It's going to be Mike and dropping into the war zone Wednesdays. If you're a kind of funny member, you get today's Greg Way, which is.
Greg Miller
My review of Super Slash man, the Christopher Reeve documentary. Oh, watched it last night.
Tim Gettys
Cool. Did you cry more than once?
Greg Miller
Oh, yeah.
Tim Gettys
Good. Thank you.
Greg Miller
And then Jen asked me a question about his wife and I turned to her, eyes welled with tears like, okay, I got the answer.
Andy Cortez
What streaming services on it's going to.
Greg Miller
Be on max at the end of the week. I bought it on Amazon last night. Couldn't wait any longer.
Tim Gettys
Thank you to our Patreon producers Delaney Twining and Carl Jacobs. Today we're brought to you by our frames and Shady Rays, but we'll tell you all about that later. For now, let's start with the topic of the show. It is December 4, 2024. Not only is it Jay Z's birthday, it also marks the one year anniversary of the GTA 6 trailer officially coming out. It also marks the one year anniversary of THE GTA 6 trailer unofficially coming out. I don't know if you guys remember this, but we were on the studio, one of the most memorable kind of funny games moments that I've ever experienced. All of us here, we knew the GTA 6 trailer was imminent. We had a plan. They had a date that they said, I think it was going to be.
Greg Miller
The next, next day, super early.
Tim Gettys
So we were like prepped. Yeah, I think it was like a 6am or something like that because they're New York time, right? So it would have been nine for them. That would have made sense. So we were like prepped for that. We knew all hands on deck. When this thing drops, we're going to be here, we're going to be live reacting. And then it leaked. It leaked on Twitter with really shitty compression and bitcoin watermark on it. And it was like, oh, what do we do? But there was a fervor and excitement at this office that I don't think we've ever had before or since. Am I right in saying that?
Blessing Adio Jr.
I wasn't here. So I was. I also wasn't here.
Andy Cortez
I would say yes. Yeah. I kept on comparing it to an episode of Succession, the second time we mentioned Succession today. But it was if there were yelling, if there was a camera crew around here, there would have been. It would have been. It would have been Tim walking to the office being like, hold on, hold on, what happened? And us being like, it dropped. It dropped. Wait, like the official illegal taking it down. They're Bringing it out right now. And it felt just, it was pandemonium, dude. It was crazy.
Greg Miller
There was a lot of. I remember wrestling with how do we want to handle it? What do we want to do? And while we were doing that was when Rockstar like fuck it, we'll just.
Tim Gettys
Put it out early through it live. And so we did it live. We did, we live reacted. We had a super fun set made Andy and Roger collab done all that.
Andy Cortez
I think it was because, well, you know what, I think we had some sort of sponsorship thing happening or a timing thing and maybe we were waiting for the next day. And I'll never forget us being like, well, not only did it leak and Tim going fuck. And then when it actually officially announced, you know, that they're just going to do it and drop it, Tim going oh fuck. And it was just like so dramatic.
Tim Gettys
I remember I got on the phone with our homie who was sponsoring the a bunch of events around the time including Game Awards. Because as Game Awards is coming up next week this year. But last year it was the same week as GTA 6 dropping. So we were working on big sponsor projects and like, you know, we know the Game Awards are going to bring in a ton of eyes that we, we. I feel like it brings in all of our fans, you know what I mean? Not just the awesome people that hang out with us every single day, but the people that look to kind of.
Greg Miller
Funny more the FedEx drivers, the grocery.
Tim Gettys
Store drivers, everybody, the Dr. Of the.
Andy Cortez
Driver, babysitter drivers, drivers, taxi drivers, but.
Tim Gettys
On top of that, computer drivers. So rare we get something like a GTA 6 trailer to drop where it's like, oh man, there's about to be a ton of eyes on this. And I remember calling him, just being like, the trailer dropped. Now you're gonna want to be a part of this piece of content for us. And he's like, tim, let's go. And then we, we rode and we made it all happen. And yeah, that was us live reacting last year. And then we did a like hour long discussion about what we thought about it, how hype it was and our predictions and everything. And I kind of just wanted to do that all over again. It's been a year. I doubt many of us have watched the trailer too many times since really just that day.
Andy Cortez
Oh yeah, I would say I've watched.
Tim Gettys
It a couple of times.
Andy Cortez
I then went home to watch it on a bigger screen and that was it. You know, I haven't probably watched it in about 364 days.
Tim Gettys
And I will also say that because a year ago this trailer dropped and since then nothing has come from gta. I do imagine that a lot of our points that we bring up today might be very similar to things that we said last time, but as we are a year ahead of that, where we might see this game next, all of that, I do want to have that conversation. I also want to talk about where we see Rockstar going. Where do they go from post GTA 6 world? So that's what we're going to be doing today, but we're going to kick it all off unless. Bless you have something to say because you look like you're. No. Okay, okay, okay. We're going to start off with us live reacting one year later to the Grand Theft Auto 6 trailer.
Andy Cortez
Do we acclaim for this? Do you know why you're here? Bad luck, I guess.
Tim Gettys
What a shot already.
Greg Miller
General.
Tim Gettys
There was a girl I knew.
Greg Miller
She said she cared about me I.
Andy Cortez
Still don't think we've seen a game like this, you know, like in the last year.
Tim Gettys
It's just so quintessentially GTA.
Andy Cortez
It's gonna be all 30 frames per.
Greg Miller
Second except the PlayStation Portal, right?
Andy Cortez
Or you might get 51.
Tim Gettys
Wow.
Greg Miller
Look who's back.
Andy Cortez
The only way we're gonna get through.
Tim Gettys
This is by sticking together, being a team.
Andy Cortez
Trust, trust. I mean, it's sick as hell.
Tim Gettys
So fucking come on. Come on, Vice City. We back, baby. 2025. Not today, not today. Bless. I want to start with you about your thoughts on this because you weren't here for the first time we reacted.
Greg Miller
You've never talked about GTA 6.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah, I never talked about GTA 6. I feel like I came back that week because I think I was in LA for some preview event, maybe Tekken or something.
Greg Miller
Fighting. Shit.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah, yeah. And I must have came back and talked about on a khd. I remember, I vaguely remember going back and forth with Tim because I remember watching this and being like, yeah, it's not going to look like this though, right? And like, I think we had a back and forth about it and like, you know, as the aspect. A year has passed since, I think I still hold on to a bit of like, I, I will believe it when I see it fully as far as like how much of like this kind of activity we're getting in the real game, right? But like, no matter what, I'm excited for a GTA. I'm such a big GTA person, right? And usually for me, that is San Andreas. That is GTA 5. I prefer the west coast in that vibe, but I love how much they're. That in this trailer. They catch on to, like, the. The Florida vibe. I. After this trailer came out, I remember watching TikToks from watching, like, you know, Twitter breakdowns of. Oh, every scene here is a meme from, like, some Florida thing that's happened and seeing people make those connections, seeing people deep dive into it that way.
Greg Miller
Yeah, Joker sued them, right then. The Joker, Florida man sue them.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, he was trying to. Yeah, I stole my likeness.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I love how much they reached into that Duffy. And, like, I think it speaks to a lot of what I think makes GTA special, which is detail. You know, being able to go, hey, we know we're going to Vice City. We know we're representing Miami and representing Florida. How do we make this the most Miami game possible? And seeing throughout this trailer just how much is going on in terms of graphical detail, in terms of, you know, how many people we see, how much stuff is going on, how much, you know, I think Florida energy is captured here. Even just the coloring of these scenes that we're seeing in front of us. Bad boys, baby, come on. Like, so much of it is so good. And so, yeah, watching it today feels almost just as special as watching it last year.
Andy Cortez
For me, Andy Cortez, they're just on a different level still. Like, I mean, I'm still with Blessing, where I want to see this running in real time. I want to see. I know this is real time footage, but I want to see this on a console. I want to see how it actually looks. And I am excited to see all of the different. Similar to when Watchdogs first had its premiere and then they did all the. The comparisons later on of, like, look how none of this looks the same and everything. The road isn't as wet anymore or whatever.
Greg Miller
But we're watching James Stevenson.
Andy Cortez
We know the thing I KE bringing up that day was what is going to be the horse testicles comparison to GTA 6? What is going in Red Dead Redemption, when the weather gets a certain way, horse balls get smaller, right? And, like, what's going to be that sort of level of detail we see in GTA 6? You bringing up the level of detail, Blessing, where are we going to see people aging in real time? Will people be getting haircuts or, you know, will NPCs be always looking the same or will they change over a little bit? Will we see degradation in environments? How much revolution would there be? Because it would seem kind of Odd for a game that always strives to be so insanely realistic, to shoot a rocket launcher at something and have it not break, you know, like, what are those good little details going to be that they're going to strive for and how much more time will that add to their development cycle?
Greg Miller
Greg, it's funny to watch the game because it's not a game I think of often and I don't mean that in the way of like, I'm not excited for it, I'm incredibly excited for it, but I need date gameplay, whatever. I, you know, we all have our hopes on and dreams of what this game will be because of course it's Rockstar and of course it's Grand Theft Auto. You, those are too high watermarks for what you're about to get. And you assume immediately put either of those alone, let alone together out there, you're thinking, oh, well, this is a game of the year contender. If this comes in 2025, right, we'll be talking about this. For any of it comes in 2026, you'll be talking about this. So it's this idea of that's such a known quantity of awesomeness that it's cool. I don't like, think about it and long for it. It'll be more interesting, I feel of when they show gameplay, if it is enough to not WS in terms of that looks beautiful, I want to play that. But like, oh, I didn't expect that. Wow, that's a really cool system. Oh, they've dumped this thing that I didn't like from GTA 5 or pick this up or they're trying to, you know, take this element from San Andreas and modernize it. Those are the things that I'm excited, the nuts and bolts of it, because you look at that, yeah. And like y'all said that it, that it just is gta, it's GTA coded, right. You look at that like, oh, man, this is so Grand Theft Auto. And it's crazy that we haven't had that in so long. And that's no shade to GTA Online, which has been very much GTA, but it's been GTA Online, which isn't the GTA's I grew up with that I was playing that I saw and then of course got what, three of on the PlayStation 2. And then here we are, you know, just languishing, waiting for this one to come. I'm fascinated to see if they can live up to the hype, you know, I mean, again, this has been gestating for so long. I, of course, have Paul Tassie's Forbes article from this year open, right? But it's recapping when in 2018, Dan Houser told GQ he was thankful GTA 6 wouldn't be out during a Trump present. The presidency, right? And, like, this has been gestating so long that now we've gotten into another Trump presidency. And so it's like, what does that mean for the narrative they're spinning for the, you know, the whole thing here was that where we were as a society was beyond satire. Right? Now, granted, Dan has left and he's doing absurd ventures and blah, blah, blah, but, like, what is this gta? What is it without Dan Houser, even though he clearly would have worked on this and done a bunch of stuff with it, like, there's so many questions for what we're about to get here and how it's going to play and what it's going to be doing. And if it will still have that resonance, it will still have that ability.
Blessing Adio Jr.
To speak to people, can it still live up to the hype? Like, that's one of the things you just mentioned right now. I don't. For me, I don't know if it can live up to the hype. I think the hype for this game is astronomical. And you're coming off of GTA 5, which came out in 2013, and so that's so far, 11 years, about to be almost 12 years of anticipation for a sequel. You're talking about, I think where we're at in 2013 versus where we're at in 2024 as far as what games are. And even take that back to God, how much time passed between GTA 3 and GTA 5? Was that.
Greg Miller
Was that 12 years?
Tim Gettys
Wouldn't there been 10 years?
Blessing Adio Jr.
2003.
Tim Gettys
2000, I guess 2001. So, yeah, yeah, 12.
Blessing Adio Jr.
12 years. I mean, we're about to hit that same amount of time between GTA 5 and GTA 6. So when you think about the evolution of video games, the evolution of open world games, what our expectations are of open world games, the big fear I have currently, and this goes back to when Fallout 4 came out, and I remember listening to podcasts, listen to. Kind of funny, I think about how that game almost felt like it was created in a silo of, hey, we're making another. Another Bethesda game. And that same year, we got the Witcher 3. And the Witcher 3 came through and ate everybody's lunch because it felt like a new and fresh RPG and Fallout 4 felt like more of that. My biggest fear right now with GTA 6 is that it comes out and it is more GTA 5 and people are like, oh, we've been there, we've done that.
Greg Miller
My big flip for you would be, do you think, Grant, you think red Dead Redemption 2 lived up to the hype? Because I think that's the situation we're in where this is going to be iteration on Grand Theft Auto 5. And so when you get here, what I'm expecting from this is the same thing I expected from red Dead Redemption 2, which was a game that didn't work for me. But I respect, but I expect this to be a very personal piece of art. This is clearly what Rockstar's vision for this game was. And whether I'll connect with that, whether I'll enjoy that in GTA 6 is a different conversation. But it is that idea of like to your point, Grand Theft Auto gunplay has never been great, right? A combat has never been great in Grand Theft Auto. It is the open world, the systems, the mechanics, the character, the story, the performances. And so to get here in 2025, knock on wood and get gameplay that is just an evolution of that and is still not that great. Then you're into the thing of are we talking about Rockstar the way we talk about Bethesda after Starfield and after Fallout 4, right? Of like Bethesda makes Bethesda games. We can't like Fallout 3, of course, amazing. Skyrim, amazing for the time and what they were doing. But since then they are iterating on those games. They are kind of doing a Nintendo thing of we're making our games and going this direction. We don't really care what's going on around us in the rest of the space. We're going to make games like Bethesda games. Which of course when you jump in you're like, this game feels dated, this game feels old. This is a stupid way to do a mission structure, blah, blah. And it's Bethesda making Bethesda games. And so you can't put the expectation on them that we joked around about in the lead up to Starfield. Like it's got to be a game of the generation, right? That's not what they're doing. Grand Theft Auto, Rockstar, right. Like I feel like Rockstar is making Rockstar games. And so far those have been genre defining, game of the year defining console generation, generations defining. And so you get to GTA 6 and it really is this question of are we Expecting them to come out and be like we have completely fixed combat, you know, shooting out the window of the car is finally enjoyable. That kind of stuff or does that not matter because it is all the bells and whistles and the social media and posting in Universe TikToks or whatever the hell it's going to be.
Andy Cortez
I don't know if a game takes this long to be developed, if it isn't going to be this brand new gigantic game changing video game. Like I think something that's been gestating for this long and to hear about what the possible budgets might be. And I really do feel like whatever we're about to get, we're not going to get a dated feeling shooting system. I think that they look at a lot of those things and they know what their weaknesses have been and I feel like everything is going to be a double down situation with with them for this video game. I do think it'll live up for me. Red Dead Redemption 2 lived up to the expectations because of this amazing story that I feel like was just so well developed and I enjoyed this character journey of Arthur Morgan and that's what I, that's what I look at of like, I hope this sort of, when I look at how that story evolves, that's where the expectations were met for me. Where I don't want to get to the end of a GTA 6 story or a Red Dead Redemption 2 story and go like, ah, that was kind of lame. Like that story hit so hard and it also had all sorts of random things that you still see on Tick Tock nowadays where people are, you know, talking to an NPC and following them back home and seeing all those little tiny details. I think Rockstar is known for that stuff. I just really hope that they improve on the combat like we were mentioning earlier. I also kind of compared to cyberpunk in a way when cyberpunk is in that sort of hype period and we're doing all these reactions to the Night City wires and all this stuff and we're super stoked about what it could be. At the end of the day. I also have to realize like it is still a video game and the scenes will still show there. And with something like cyberpunk after hopping in, I immediately kind of realized, oh, I'm not just, I can't just exist in this world. And this isn't just an endless sort of free roaming multiplayer sim or free roaming open world simulator. This is still a video game with a structure. And that immediately kind of made Me go, okay, I will sort of change my brain wiring to know what to expect.
Tim Gettys
I think that you're right on the money there, Andy. I feel like the only real comparison for GTA 6 in terms of hype and expectations is cyberpunk and being able to look at how that ended up not living up to the hype at launch and then getting better over time. I think it's still a very different situation because of the money that Rockstar has and because of how Rockstar is able to make games. And compared to CD Projekt Red that had such an amazing pedigree and does have a bankroll. But we're talking about the biggest bankroll in video games with Grand Theft Auto. And they're clearly putting the money into it and they care about being the actual best when it comes to how open it is, how the graphical fidelity, like how much is going on in the world, the horse testicles and all that stuff.
Greg Miller
Love them horse testicles.
Tim Gettys
But taking the testicles and applying that to GTA logic. I do think it is the amount of things happening in the city and the amount of moments that are just happening, the sideshows with the cars going of like, is that going to feel incredibly scripted and like overdone or is that going to feel as organic as it ever has in a video game? And it's still a video game to your point. Like it's not like this thing is going to be a life simulator for good reason. But I do think that like they Rockstar can push the GTA formula in terms of the wow moments as you're just playing of just these like emergent story beats, gameplay beats as from a player. Like that's how I think it's going to live up to expectations. And I do think it's going to.
Andy Cortez
The fir the real quick. Sorry. The first time that in GTA 4, I believe that I'm walking down an alley and a random NPC walks up to me, goes, dude, my. My fucking friend, he's. He's dying. I need help. And that to me was like so shocking and surprising as a, as a. The player to go, oh my God, this is like. This feels so random. And out of nowhere. I'm not doing a mission. This is just some random happenstance thing. And you go follow them and they're like, give us all your fucking money and they're holding you up. Those are the moments like, I want that times a million in this game. Will I get that? Honestly, part of me feels like I'll get more than I am not expecting because of this budget and the time that they are putting into it.
Tim Gettys
And just looking at that trailer, obviously. Is it going to look exactly like that? Absolutely not. But I do think it's going to be closer than Knots, like even where we're at now at the end of 2024. Like, I think that that's such an excellent tone piece for it being such a Grand Theft Auto game. And I feel like that sold me as if I wasn't already. I'm like, cool, this is a GTA game. You're going to get all the things you care about from GTA in terms of the parody and the culture and all that stuff. But I also think that in terms of living up to the hype, no way is this going to be everyone's favorite Grand Theft Auto. I mean, who the hell knows? Maybe it is. But I think that that that's. If those are your expectations, then yeah, it's not going to live up to the hype. But I do think that this is clearly going to be a game that gets. I mean, I think more people are going to play GTA 6 than any GTA in history. And that's alone, I think bringing in people that maybe haven't played GTA 5 at all or maybe just picked it up 10 years ago and played a little bit. But them jumping in now, this might be their game that to them is their first open world game, the biggest open world game. Or like they haven't played some of the, the games of this generation. There will be millions of people, I think, that fall into that category. And then to them, does it live up to the expectations of like what a modern video game can be? And then for people that have been playing games, in what ways does it redefine it? Because I do think that that is a core testament to Rockstar's vision for these games. Whether It's Red Dead 2 with its realism and role playing, being a cowboy and all that, or Grand Theft Auto. When specifically you look at five and like what did five add that four didn't and the previous ones didn't? And I do think it is the GTA online component. Four might have had online, whatever, but the way that five did online, that is going to be iterated on for six in a way that I think can be truly transformative if they just upgrade those systems and have a fun enough story that gets people compelled to want to play through because the performances look great and it looks great. I think the stories, Doug Houser being gone some of the writing stuff. We'll have to wait and see. Dan? Yeah, I, there's a lot of questions, but I'm still very hopeful.
Andy Cortez
I hope it saves the industry. Only in that people will.
Greg Miller
No pressure. I hope it saves the industry.
Andy Cortez
I hope it teaches, you know, because by the time it comes out, these, these youngins will be a little bit older and they'll know, you know, how much money is actually worth. Greg, you know, there's a lot of kids out there who have only played free to play games their whole lives. And I hope that this game, like I'm half jokingly saying this, but I really hope that this game can kind of re. Ingratiate. Re ingratiate, Is that a term I'm looking for to sort of show people like, hey, video games cost money. And like it's, you know, there are seventy and sixty dollar products out there that aren't just we know you've been playing, hey, 40 year old mother who has a son who's, you know, 12 or whatever. We know that he's only played free to play Call of Duty and Minecraft and Roblox his whole life. But video games cost money and, and you know, hopefully this thing has enough hype that everybody on the planet will want to buy it and go, you know what? Video games do cost money.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I hope, I hope so. I hope though that we don't have the opposite effect where GTA 6 comes out, everybody spends $70 on it and then you have a growing audience that is like, oh, this is what $70 looks like. Why am I buying, why am I buying these other games for $70 when this is what Rockstar gave me for 70?
Mike
I have 100% worried.
Greg Miller
You heard Everlasting Gobstopper? Yeah, like this game, this story with all these side missions, then it's also got online somehow, tied into it or whatever And I paid 70 bucks for it. And then yeah, any other game comes out aggregated.
Andy Cortez
Blessing said that he wants Grand Theft auto to be 300 bucks. One of the questions I was gonna.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Ask is like, how much would you, how much would you pay for a GTA 6? Because like, is it like me with what was it? Zelda, Tears of the Kingdom? I was like, oh, I'll pay $1,000 and everybody called me crazy.
Tim Gettys
That's a, that is a good question. Question Blessed that we're going to answer. Oh, right after a word from our sponsors.
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Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah, and I don't think I was insane for saying that.
Tim Gettys
Hey, I get it. I get it.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I'm gonna do that for blood.
Tim Gettys
Here we are. Now let me just ask would any anyone at this table would you spend just off the top of your head more than the $70 to for GTA 6.
Andy Cortez
Yes. Yes.
Tim Gettys
$100.
Greg Miller
Yes.
Tim Gettys
$250.
Greg Miller
No. That's where I would stop. No, in terms of the numbers, you're. I mean 99.99. Right. Is not unheard of in our industry for collectors editions. Yada yada yada. So is it, it's the game and it is online. And are these bonuses for online or these bundles or whatever it is?
Andy Cortez
There's a lot I would do 199 as my top because that's where you get 48 months or 24 months no interest. Oh payments on Amazon. Or maybe it's six months. Either way.
Tim Gettys
Klarna.
Andy Cortez
No, not Clark. Amazon credit card. Amazon credit card.
Mike
So okay, realistically, right, like it might actually be those prices. Right.
Tim Gettys
Well so that, that's where I wanted to lead here. So that's just us saying from our value of what we expect from this game, whatever in terms of let's not talk collector's editions, let's not talk bonus whatever. Let's talk base game Grand Theft Auto 6 and let's not bring the tariffs and stuff into that too because like we won't know how that's going to affect things in terms of actual dollar to dollar stuff. We're going to make China conversation for a later time. Where we're at right now with games costing $70 on PlayStation and Xbox, $60 sometimes elsewhere. Unless you're Zelda, which was 70 on Switch. What do we, what do we think Grand Theft Auto 6 is going to cost and what do you think that they could get away with?
Greg Miller
I think that they will do suggested retail price. I think this will be a $70 game. I don't think they'll get that nuts with it. I do think that they could easily go to 79 99. I think you could probably get to 8999 and not have the outcry be too big. Cause you're a Roc and you don't give a shit and you're going to buy it eventually. And if you're not going to buy it right now, there's going to be sales and bundles and everything else where you will buy it eventually. So we're really not worried. It's a take two argument obviously as the corporate bean counters try to figure out what they can get away with. But I do see it being 6999 and I do see there being additions that do something, you know what I mean? To make a bigger deal about it from Tattoo. That'll try to get that money and try to get that nostalgia out of you.
Tim Gettys
I feel like the base is going to be higher.
Greg Miller
You think so?
Tim Gettys
I don't really. Yeah. I don't know how much more but again thinking about nintendo making tiers $70 which I know is standard on other systems but I'm sure Nintendo sees it that way. I just think that they look at we can get 70 for this game. So they did. And I think yeah, with take two and with how long this has been gestating and clearly they wanted it out 20, 25. Right. It's not going to hit that. I do think any lever they can pull to get more money, especially when they know it's going to essentially sell out as soon as it drops, I think that they know they're in a position that they damn well could do it easily and it would get blowback, but I don't think it would get blowback that would affect them. I think there would be so much more money from it. And in the past, looking at Rockstar and Grand Theft Auto specifically like, yeah, those games are ever present and drop price and still sell. I'll never forget like four years ago being at Target at Stonestown near Christmas time and some dude was buying Grand Theft Auto 5 as like a present for somebody. And I was like how is it possible that, that somebody would want this game that doesn't already have it? You know what I mean? That's Grand Theft Auto. So yeah, I, I think that the conversations are definitely happening and I think that in my mind that would be the plan.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I don't think in a million years they would charge 90. I think they could get away with 80, but I do think they'll do 70. And I think one of the big reasons is like we're not just talking about the premium box sales for GTA 6, we're also talking about online. We're talking about like that longevity of being able to sell Shark cards and being able to sell like bundle in the game with the Shark cards. Right. I think you need that a good price to start off with where you can kind of like play with that tier of four years, five years down the road of okay, yeah, we're going to do the eighty dollar version that's going to come with this much more money for online. They're going to be able to spend.
Tim Gettys
And I'm right there with you. My only thing is I'm not convinced that online is part of the package and I'm not convinced that online isn't free. To play. So I feel like with that, I think it's like if you're gonna put this thing out, I think they'll definitely interact in some way. But I do think looking at how GTA 5 and GTA Online are the same thing, but are very different at their core. What does from the ground up, with the infrastructure and understanding of what a real online service looks like, with understanding of the monetization of that, I feel like we, we might not even be able to comprehend what they're going to do. Because this brings you back to Call.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Of Duty though, where Call of Duty is still like the only first person shooter competitive game, one of the only ones that is still selling at $60. Of course now it's on game pass and all that.
Greg Miller
Right.
Blessing Adio Jr.
But like they're able to get away with 70. Sorry, they're able to get away with every single year selling a $70 copy because it's Call of Duty. I feel like for GTA you kind of have that with online as well. Right. Like, I think the, I think the connectivity is a strong one, is a strong conversation to have because you're going to have it be in the same city. I know there are leaks and stuff that we can get into as far as, oh, they're going to start with Vice City and then they're going to build in other cities. Maybe you'll go to Liberty and all this stuff. Right. But I do think that those, like that big chunk of money that you're going to make off of selling like the premium versions and making that the gateway into online, at least at first, is the way to go. I think I, yeah, I do think that going free to play with GTA Online might just be a mistake. Right. I think you get that money off of GTA Online.
Tim Gettys
So my thing is, I see like what you're saying about selling the, the Call of Duty that's selling Grand Theft Auto 6 just single player, right? I think that I'm saying even 70, 80 MSRP for single player, that's going to be the highest selling game. But they have that.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Do you think people are showing up to GTA 6 more at this point? For single player or online?
Tim Gettys
I think it doesn't matter because I think that people are showing up for single player.
Andy Cortez
Like I think it's single player.
Tim Gettys
Like the answer is online in terms of how they're going to make money and all that stuff and like modern gaming and stuff. But like I think GTA 6 is a single player game that they are selling. That's going to be the high selling thing. Then they're going to make the most money over time from online. I see them putting out online free to play or it could even be a $20 thing, they could still or $50 thing. Fuck it. Like they they in the same way you're saying like they're in that zone, they can do whatever. War zone's free, right? Like Call of Duty does have its multiple different ways to maximize them making money. And I do think Grand Theft Auto to some extent is going to do that. But I still don't Expect online and GTA 6 single player stuff to day one be all available together.
Andy Cortez
I also wonder what happens to the old Grand Theft Auto Online.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I think it'll still exist, it'll be different enough.
Greg Miller
I think they support it for a while and then sunset it way down the line or whatever depending on what they see. Back end. My I like the conversation. I think it's an interesting conversation. I don't remember Red Dead 2 did the same thing right where Red Dead 2 dropped and then weeks later, months later you got into online via Red Dead 2. I think they're going to stick with that for GTA 6 and GTA Online because again if you are just the online player, they're going to want you to pay them the 70 bucks if not more to get in there and do it. And then I think yeah, eventually there's a free to play option version to get you through the door. But I think that's down the line. I think right now it's about pumping that number up, being the biggest entertainment launch, being the biggest video game of all time, making that money back as fast as possible. Billion dollars in 24 hours and yada yada yada.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah, I see like the staggered launch for single player and online maybe being like like a month apart or maybe like a couple months apart if that. Right. Like I think they had to be connected at their core because I do think that that is like the biggest sales value for that audience. Like I think when you're talking about single player and online for GTA at this point, I think the online importance is equivalent, if not even more important than when you're talking about single player and why people are showing up to the box. I think yeah, being able to bundle those in the same thing, be like hey, you're buying this for 70, maybe 80 if we can push it. Right. Like to play both of these things. I think that's going to sell so many boxes and then you get the shark cards and then you get the monetization after that, maybe a battle pass this time.
Tim Gettys
I just, I will be surprised. I think that no matter what GTA Online, if you pay for GTA 6, it'll come with some extent. GTA Online, I just think that having seen what happened with GTA 5, seen what happened to Red Dead 2, I know we're in a different spot now, but I just still think strategy wise they would want to just let the people play GTA 6, let them play the single player. Not necessarily beat it, but play it.
Greg Miller
I agree with this that there's going to be a window between them.
Tim Gettys
Yeah, some window. And then I. But I do think that window is going to be, I mean, very similar to the last two times this happened. Right where. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was like a month later we got.
Blessing Adio Jr.
For GTA 5, it was two weeks. And then for Red Dead, I believe it was like a. Probably like. Yeah, like a month or so.
Tim Gettys
Two weeks. A month. But then really it wasn't like another year until it was like, all right. But really now Red Dead Online GTA Online of them like treating it like. Like it or not even stream GTA 5 being an example of them having something that even functioned. And then Red Dead being more just like, okay, cool, we know what this is. And if I remember correctly, they ended up selling Red Dead Online as a separate thing. So you didn't need to buy the whole Red Dead 2.
Greg Miller
I don't recall.
Mike
I don't know. Red Dead had the big misstep of being seven months after Red Dead 2 came out. Oh, it was, it was a while until they could get Red Dead Online up. And I think GTA is also now technically its own separate thing.
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Which I was gonna make that point is like, I think you also have the option of making GTA 6 online free to play later. Like if you look, if you're looking at the numbers, I think that is a lever to pull maybe five years into the life cycle of. All right, now's the time go free to play, get this as many hands as possible and like launch the Dr. Dre update and get everybody in. Yeah, maybe Pitbull update this time.
Greg Miller
I do expect this to launch in the best state any of the onlines have. And maybe that's wishful thinking, but back to your point of just. I feel like this many years later, all the learnings from GTA Online, like we are in a far different spot where people expect if we show up day one with the thing that got included Like I did with GTA 5 and it's just a trash fire.
Tim Gettys
I'm with you. That it. They have to get it right.
Andy Cortez
Man, it was so bad. It was so much fun. And then you get disconnected and you get right back on because it was of how fun it was felt. Yeah.
Greg Miller
As fast as you could. As fast as you could.
Blessing Adio Jr.
GTA Online for me at launch, I remember just sitting there waiting for that loading screen, like trying like I could be doing homework I could be working on. I'd failed so many classes. I failed like one class that semester because of GTA 5. But like online was a thing that I had to be there for. And I don't think, I don't think it launches busted this time around. But I do think that GTA 6 online might launch a bit bare bones because to Tim's point, I think you need, I think you need to get it right and I think part of getting it right is a slow build. I think year one for GTA 6 online, I think maybe you launch it a month after a single player. Right. And it is a thing of the first 12 months being, hey, you have deathmatch modes, you have an open world roam mode, you have some race modes and like maybe like a few like some co op stuff here and there to build progression and then like a light battle pass to give you like a carrot on the stick to chase for. You're, you're not getting heists Year one. I don't think you're getting like, you're not getting any like major. Hey, this is the core of the game in year one. In my prediction, I think that comes year two, year three, year four, because I think it is just a massive undertaking and part of that is actually having people in the game so you can see how people play and you can see like what you can handle as far as, yeah, the kind of modes, kind of the kind of things you need to put in there to pull those levers and get that money.
Greg Miller
That makes sense to me. Yeah, I, I, I don't, I, I can't imagine it's as bare bones as either of the first two or that have launched. But I think, yeah, you're gonna have the big stuff, your raid content down the line. I'm hoping for a more engaging narrative. Right. We're making our character, we're jumping in. What are we doing?
Tim Gettys
Why are we in the online side?
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
Greg Miller
This narrative better be engaging. As for the single player one, we.
Tim Gettys
Got a couple super chats. Betty B. Good Saying I'd love to see more customization including character cars and homes. I also I hope there's more better movement on foot like jumping and getting over stuff. So yeah, like talking about it from more of like the actual gameplay experience. Let's jump away from online to the core product of the single player thing that we're talking about, the trailer here. Mike, Andy, is there expectations you have of it feeling incredibly more modern than GTA 5 did or are you kind of seeing this like, all right.
Andy Cortez
I feel like part of them. I feel like what the goal has to be is Last of Us Part two, your third person shooter. Wow. Needs to feel like that when it comes to diving under thing, all the contextual anime, all of that stuff, I want that to be the bar. I don't think that. I think anything be beneath that. If we are just seeing a prettier, somewhat smoother version of GTA 5, I think that's a massive disappointment because that game never felt great.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
This is what I'm talking about with over hype though. I don't think there's a world where that can happen.
Andy Cortez
I just think with the amount of time and money and budget that's gone into it, I feel like they are going to attack this on all fronts.
Mike
Think about the time, money and budget that went behind the Last of Us Part two though, and they had all of that and that was not an open world game, you know.
Greg Miller
Yeah, that's.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, but. But you're also talking about that game being so like to me, they are not going for even the levels of visual fidelity. The game of course looks amazing, but I think that's a lot of that just being in a newer engine and looking like. I don't think we're seeing the level of animations that we're seeing in Grand Theft Auto that we are going to. That we saw in the Last of Us. When it comes to like the extreme nitpicking of millimeters moving on motion capture and all that, I think that's a different sort of. I think Tim nailed it earlier. Rockstar Money is different than Naughty Dog money or Sony money. Rockstar Money is a different beast. When I talk about getting hired a kind of funny. And even in 2019, before the pandemic or 2018 being like, like fuck, you know, the latest monthly sales, GTA is still on there. What the fuck? And it's like that kept on happening and the shark cards kept on happening. I feel like it's a different league for them.
Blessing Adio Jr.
The pushback. I'll Give is, I think for a GTA 5 and how well that did. Like, I forget how many copies it sold, but what, a hundred million? Like, like that game sold so much for what it was. And I think for GTA 6, it has to be a thing of, hey, the formula is not broke.
Greg Miller
Over 200 million worldwide as of August 2024.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I was trying to be conservative. I think it's a thing of the formula is not broke. Let's not, let's not switch it up too much. I think that that money goes to looking at things like GTA online and going, all right, what are the things that we're holding this back just from a like optimization and getting people into matchmaking and ui, UI customization. Like, I do think the apartment and house stuff is going to be, you know, way more revamped and like done way better this time around. Like all those things in online that felt weird and felt kind of like, oh, this feels old. Janky, janky. I think that stuff is getting revamped. But the actual gameplay, like, I think once you get into this feels like Lost is part two or this feels like an action game. I think you get away from what is gta, which is you were a ragdoll essentially walking around getting into cars. Like you have this level of vulnerability and this level of like, which I.
Greg Miller
Think is awesome, where you get hit and you do the little tumble over the hood.
Blessing Adio Jr.
It's kind of frustrating. But that is what makes GTA gta.
Greg Miller
This is me going back to the thing and I'm, yeah, I'm with bless on this that I don't. I mean, I would love that, you know, that fidelity of Last of Us. I don't think you get that because I think Even looking at GTA 5, you see the evolution from GTA 3 where it's like, yeah, things have gotten better obviously and are more realistic. Yeah. But it still feels and looks the same with rose colored glasses. And let me just get. This is where we get into the conversation. I think of, oh, it's a Bethesda game. We got to stop thinking it's not going to be a Bethesda game. This is a Rockstar game. I think it's going to be a Rockstar game. Which means I think it will feel better, it will do whatever, but it's still going to be the. I have my Uzi and I'm flailing around my arm.
Blessing Adio Jr.
The auto lock on.
Greg Miller
Yeah, exactly.
Andy Cortez
Well, I think like the, the stuff I've seen people do in Red Dead Redemption 2 is still, still feels like decades newer of a game than GTA 5 was. Like the level of, of detail that there is even in that combat system, I feel feels like so far improved over what happened in GTA 5. I think, I mean last of all is part two is probably like the pinnacle that I could hit. I'd be still happy with an evolved form of Red Dead Redemption 2 combat. In terms of, I'm not saying that like, you know, that's an old timey combat feel because you're using older weapons or whatever, but the amount of things you can do in that game still felt so far so much more evolved than what we had in GTA 5.
Tim Gettys
To me that's the things, the amount of things you're able to do that's kind of like the core tenet of gta like dating back to the original. But like specifically from three onwards. It's just like the oh wow, I can't believe I'm doing this. GTA 4. I can't believe I'm calling a taxi. Like just the dumb little things that you can't believe you're doing. And I feel like comparing the gameplay feel of GTA 3 even to San Andreas, the original San Andreas there was so much refinement, but it was still the same kind of vibes of like the ragdoll feeling. But like specifically controlling a car felt so much different. And like I feel like they refined it into an area of like, like how it felt in gta. San Andreas it feels way more similar to that in five because they kind of like got that side of it down. Whereas GTA 3 was way more the cars just like, you know what I mean, like left and right. It felt digital as opposed to analog.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean GTA 4 to GTA 5 when you're talking about like car physics. Big jump.
Tim Gettys
Exactly. And, and I mean GTA 4's physics system in general of like hitting the car and like you it being a bit more realistic, which resulted in funnier rag doll stuff. Right. I think GTA 5 kind of like pulled that back a bit and went a little bit more of a at that point, modern style of the GTA 3 trilogy feel. But I, I'm with Eddie to the extent that I do think the gunplay and stuff needs to. It just needs to have that tighter feel. That in the same way that I think that the car physics and stuff have improved in car control, I think that the combat does need that boost where I don't think it needs to be last of us levels of Being able to like throw your rope and look at how the rope moves and all that, like that stuff. But I think the gunplay, because GTA 5 focuses on that stuff and I expect 6 to focus on it a lot as well. I do think that. And it's funny because we're like talking about Naughty Dog as if the gunplay.
Greg Miller
Stuff is like what they're known for.
Tim Gettys
Yeah, I feel like it's one of the things most people critique.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I personally love it, I defend it.
Tim Gettys
Yeah, I, I love it and I feel like it does fit really well over here in the, like the Naughty Dog gun play style I think works very well for shooting range, shooting gallery type stuff. Stuff. And at the end of the day, a lot of the GTA missions, at least in the past, that's what they are.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Gettys
You know, think about the opening bit of GTA 5. If that played the Last of Us 2 to the extents that it needs to, that'd be awesome.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. I want the level of interactivity if I'm running into a house on for some like break in mission or whatever. I guess I want the evolved form of that Red Dead 2 combat with the addition of knocking down this fucking thing, picking up an apple, throwing it, you know, like that level of like those little small details going, oh shit, they thought of that, you know, and I heard you're not gonna be able.
Greg Miller
To enter the houses in GTA 6.
Andy Cortez
Oh, shit.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Fuck.
Andy Cortez
It's unfortunate. Yeah, I just, I think if we get that level of evolution, I will be happy with that. Because, man, some of the, some of the highlights that people make on TikTok for like Red Dead 2, it looks like. Holy shit, who's playing this? Like, is this some Sunni Legend type shit? Like it is really impressive the amount of stuff that people can do.
Greg Miller
Andy, I have to run. It's Ben's first ever parent teacher conference. However, I'm kind of offended that we've made it this far into the episode and I haven't got a Dutch or an Arthur Morgan impression. So can we please get that on the table before we leave?
Andy Cortez
That's a good question right there, Greg Miller, because my name is. My name is Dutch. Are you sure Dave isn't George W. Bush? My name is Dutch.
Tim Gettys
Arthur. We're going to go to Tahiti.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, that sounds good to me. That sounds good to me, Greg. Say hi to the old kid for me. Yeah, and I'm John Marston.
Tim Gettys
Put him in. Video games, people.
Greg Miller
What are you waiting for?
Andy Cortez
It's a good game. That's a stolen impression from Chris Cody. Sorry, Chris Cody from the Levitard Show. It's a good video game. Jennifer Coolidge. Hey.
Tim Gettys
Oh, man. Let me ask you. Bless you. I would say are the biggest GTA 5/online player at the office. Oh, yeah, Would you? What, what do you not want from GTA 6?
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh, man. What do I not want? Like for online or just in general?
Tim Gettys
Just in general. When I ask you that, what jumps out to you?
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean, this is a weird one because this is so in particular, but like, I want there to be a better balance of country and city. Because GTA 5, when I want to go to that top part of the map, it gets kind of annoying where I'm just like, all right, cool. I'm going to put on some music. I'm going to go on a 10 minute drive just to the top of this fucking map where there's no city, where it's just all fucking country road.
Andy Cortez
Bless. I hope there's a lot of broken down semi trucks with ramps on them.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh my God. Yeah, give me something to do if you're gonna give me those drives. Yeah, make them interesting. Like. Yeah, give me a fucking. Yeah, broken down semi trucks with the ramps and shit like that.
Andy Cortez
So it's gonna be weird when we get a lot of NFT references.
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
With how dead they are now.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Like, that's my other thing is what does. What does the story look like? What does the references references look like? You know, I think it was Greg that brought up the good point of the interview with. I think it was Dan Houser. Right. That was like, yeah, I'm. It sucks trying to make a GTA right now with the Trump and Trump's America, because everything feels almost larger than life as far as like trying to parody a thing. How do we par what's already comedy? We're still in that same place. Like, I wonder what those look like. We saw in the trailer that there is a lot of Instagram reels which, like tick tock adjacent stuff that's still. Still relevant enough. I don't think that relevancy is going away anytime soon, even though the government's trying to get rid of it. But that's a different conversation with that stuff though.
Tim Gettys
Just real quick, I want to say because, like, I feel like in the past I. I've been a big proponent of just like, oh man, how are they going to parody? Like that's so important to gta. I do think that to your point, the parody aspect is a little less important. I Just feel like Rockstar at this point just needs to put out a really good story that reflects modern times. That's it. I don't think it needs to be like the most satirical parody, whatever. If the world is as wacky as it is right now, just tell a good story because there's so many good stories to tell. There have compelling characters, have something to say, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think it needs to, like, be the most. Oh, man, I've never heard any of that before, but at least do something that makes me go like, oh, wow. Only GTA could have told the story that they did because they actually had a narrative in mind and, like, actually had a point instead of just like, oh, man, this prostitute to the strip club. It can't be that. You know what I mean?
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah. One of the things I'm maybe a bit more of a niche side of GTA that I'm very excited to see what they do with is the music. Obviously the GTA soundtracks are iconic and in the last decade, especially with GTA 5, it feels like they've been putting in way more of an effort to go deeper into what they can do with music. They've added in radio stations over time. They have artists host radio stations. There was that blonded radio that was like Frank Ocean, you know, like a Frank Ocean type radio station that they added over time. They had Dr. Dre in there. I remember getting an email or five years ago about like some rockstar record label thing going on. They care a lot about music at that company. And I think all this is building towards something in GTA 6. As far as how they're going to implement that, especially with whatever record label thing they got going on. I want to know what that is. I want to know what that looks like. I'm very excited to see what they can do with that. But as far as probably my biggest thing, as far as what I don't want to see in GTA 6, and this is to the online side of things, I hope. And this is very simple. Right. And this goes back to me and me and Greg were mentioning UI jumping into parties. Just the player experience of GTA Online needs to be fixed, like from the ground up needs to be fixed. I think the best part of GTA Online is when I'm actually playing it. The worst part of GTA Online is when I'm in a menu and I'm trying to invite people and the auto invites and I'm waiting for it to populate. Oh, man. It's starting. Oh, man. The things. Okay, cool. Oh, man. I want to do a heist. How do I do a heist? And having to, like, look up guides online.
Andy Cortez
Rockstar Club.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah, get on Rockstar Club. Okay. You got to do the setup missions. All right, how do I do this? Oh, you got to invite somebody. How do I. It's so convoluted and so fucked up.
Tim Gettys
So with that, I think one of my biggest fears that I expect from this game is that those things aren't going to be perfectly solved. Like, I'm a little concerned that, like, it's still going to feel a little bit like just not up to snuff for, like where I agree with you, it needs to be. Do you think that there are systems and games you've played that they should learn from?
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh, man. This might be more of an Andy question, even a mic question. Right. Of like online games that have that level of almost like an MMO style. Hey, everybody's in this. In this lobby together and like we're hanging out, but then we want to hop into a specific mission. So, like invite people. I feel like one of the big things is just that it came out in 2013, which was a different time for online games. Maybe destiny might be the. Might be the thing to point to as far as how to go about it in a better way.
Andy Cortez
Obviously cross progression is really important. Cross platform, cross play, all that cross stuff is going to be extremely vital and I don't doubt that any of that would launch, you know, with it in the game. I think all that's going to be good to go. Systems wise man. I'm not sure, like, are we getting some sort of companion app? I feel like that seems like something Rockstar might do.
Blessing Adio Jr.
They love a companion app.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, they love a little companion.
Blessing Adio Jr.
They gave us a companion app to like, like edit your license plate on your car.
Andy Cortez
That could be kind of cool, you know? Yeah, I feel like they could go deeper into that level of. Of bringing it to a real life sort of thing because. Yeah, wasn't the. Wasn't it like iFruit or whatever the Apple app was? I feel like they. I feel like they might try to do something that. Or at least I hope that on day one the game isn't just a complete disaster online and cross play and matchmaking wise. If whenever this online thing comes out, the thing that I don't want to see from GTA would be a. I hope a storefront is only on the online portion. I don't want there to be A storefront in the core campaign itself. I think that would really kind of take me out of it in terms of like giving my real money towards the campaign. I don't know if I want to see that.
Tim Gettys
So what if it works backwards though, of like, you can buy stuff online that then you wear in Single player. Would you be okay with that?
Andy Cortez
I don't know.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh man.
Tim Gettys
It's like a weird back doorway into the same thing. But I'm with you.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I think. No, I think I don't. Yeah. Because it is like just a weird backdoor way of. Yeah. Making me pay for stuff. Maybe to play in the. To where in Single Player you're going.
Andy Cortez
To get my Shark cards online.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Like, yeah, it's like save that stuff for online.
Andy Cortez
Yeah. That's really the only thing. What about you, Tim? Is there anything think that like, if it launches day one, you'll be like, oh God, why do they include this feature?
Tim Gettys
I, I, my biggest personal fear. And I, I think that I am not necessarily, I don't know if I'm in the minority here, but I'm definitely there is a take against what I'm saying. I hope it doesn't lean more into the RPG stuff than it already has. Like, I feel like the moment GTA started getting into, like even in San Andreas on PS2, like having to take care of your health and all that stuff, like, I didn't find find fun in that.
Andy Cortez
Me either.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh man, I love that.
Andy Cortez
I didn't want to go to the gym.
Blessing Adio Jr.
That was my guy.
Tim Gettys
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
Like, I like all of that stuff being a, an unattended consequence, I think. But there wasn't really a part of me that wanted to see a meter go up if I went to the gym or a meter go down if I ate too much, you know, from Burger Mart or whatever it's called.
Mike
I mean, we kind of got that with Red Dead 2. Right.
Tim Gettys
And that, that to me is my thing is like the, the way people talk about Red Dead 2, it's like, I don't want Grand Theft Auto, The Red Dead 2 edition, like that. To me I'm like, oh, that is not the GTA I personally want. And I mean looking at how Red Dead divided at least some people and I think it actually, Reddit's a very apt comparison to what I'm saying. Like, clearly there are millions upon millions of people that love what that game did and going deeper into the real role playing mechanics.
Andy Cortez
But I got herpes, Dutch. I gotta fix my herpes.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I didn't finish Red Dead 2. Is that a thing?
Andy Cortez
I don't know.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I was like, did he have herpes in that game? I didn't get to chapter five.
Andy Cortez
Slept with a lady of the night. Dutch. Yeah. When it comes to those little. I, I want those systems to be present. I want to see my hair grow after a while and have to go get a hair. Like I think that stuff is cool as a detail on somebody who is more amazed by like the game development side and like, like the human, the human touch. These human hands made these details in this video game. And that shit is really kind of awe inspiring to me. But I don't know if I want it to be gamified. I kind of just hope it happens, you know?
Blessing Adio Jr.
Am I allowed to spoil something in Red Dead 2? The chat just spoiled for me.
Andy Cortez
Well, I was going to say herpes. I was good. I, I only said herpes because I was going to say.
Blessing Adio Jr.
You didn't want to say the actual account. Six years.
Andy Cortez
No, I'll let it go.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I'll let it go.
Andy Cortez
I'll let it go.
Blessing Adio Jr.
It's just that I wasn't expecting for that to be the way that he went.
Andy Cortez
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Wow.
Andy Cortez
Yeah, yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I got to finish this game.
Andy Cortez
Chia D.
Tim Gettys
Wow.
Blessing Adio Jr.
It's a good.
Mike
That, that was a good story. And then it kept going for another 10 hours. And even if you keep your horse alive the entire game, they still kill it.
Blessing Adio Jr.
All right. To. I. I was thinking about what Tim was asking as far as like things from other games that they could learn for GTA Online that would, you know, help fix things or that would fit well. And I don't. This isn't me saying that I want it, but this is me saying that for sure they are talking about it. I want to know what that GTA Online Battle Pass looks like. Because for sure, at Rockstar they're like, we got to figure out what that Battle Pass is. What's it going to be called? The Rocker Pass? The Shark Pass?
Tim Gettys
And they should. I mean in my opinion is. That's the thing is like I feel and this is where the expectations start getting a little bit out of control. But fuck that. We should hold them accountable to these expectations. Their Battle Pass should be good. Yeah. They should be making the most valuable game company in the world that has all this money, should have the answers. They should be able to put out content that is worthwhile, that is worth ever present people like a subscription service. That's what games are these days.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean they've, they've tested the waters, right? They had like GTA Online plus that they, that came out a couple years ago. That wasn't like a like a battle pass, but it was more so of like here's a way to get more money.
Andy Cortez
Are they going to parody, parody monetization in video games while monetizing the fuck out of their videos?
Tim Gettys
I mean like see that, that's like God, they'd have to. There's a thin line there between that being cool or not. But I just feel like there's something that that rockstar is capable if they. We, when we all were playing GTA 3 trilogy, we all were imagining. Can you imagine if this was. Was multiplayer? Can you imagine if we're just like if this was like an MMO and we're out there, we're now in that world and it's just like crazy where it's like they have been able to deliver. The fact that GTA Online exists at all blows my mind that it works the way that it does at this point and that you can just hop in with your friends and play multiplayer Grand Theft Auto.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Holy that bangs.
Tim Gettys
And all the fun modes, the racing, all the creativity that they have, like, like all of that, I feel like they are better positioned than literally anyone else to have the answers to come up with worthwhile content that is worth the money they're asking for. But it's on them to do that or else they're going to just take advantage of everybody. And that's the easy way out.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Mike, are you back there? Is that Mike? I can't tell who that is. Oh, it's cool. Mike, if you're listening, put GTA Online on the books for a stream at some point because I want to play some GTA Online. I think the question then becomes do you. But do you need a battle pass or a GTA Online? Like does every game, does every most player game or live service style game need a battle pass? Is it able to exist without a battle pass? Because I think it can because GTA Online has already done it. And I think trying to figure out what that looks like for GTA 6 is a challenge because I think to make a GTA 6 online mode that is successful, it needs to be something that people play in all different ways, right? You can't have one path to success. It can't be the, hey, you played 10 death matches, so here's a fucking skin. You played 20 co op missions, so here's another skin. I think you have to be able to cater this, this game In a way where people can choose their playstyle and exist in this world the way they want to. They. They want to. If I want to go in and just do street races, I should be able to do that and feel like I'm getting the experience for me. If I want to go in and be able to do the heist and, you know, build up the best condo with my friends and make as much money as possible, like, I should be able to do that, right? And, like, I wonder if there's a way to cater a battle pass to, like, feel like people are getting the most out of their battle pass while also getting the most out of their individual experience with GTA online.
Tim Gettys
I mean, to that. I mean, this is just throwing an option out there, but there could be, like, different seasons that do focus on different things. And it's like, you don't create a system that you don't need to do every single one, but entice people to want to. Because if you. They want you to play all the different modes, they want you to treat every single thing as if it is worthwhile, and that's on them to do that themselves so that there is quality game there. Like, GTA has so many different styles of play that when you're playing through the game, you do shooting, you do drive, you do a whole bunch of different things. And if they can all be equally fun that the majority of people out there aren't just, oh, I only want to do street races, that means they made a good game, you know what I'm saying? But again, that there's a lot there for them to pull out my other.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Thing too, and I don't want to invoke the F word, but I have to for this Fortnite, I think there probably is a lot you can learn from how Fortnite has all these different modes that you can do. They have the creative stuff, right? And GTA GTA 5 had created before Fortnite even existed, right? When Fortnite was like a twinkle in Epic's eye, right? That is a place where GTA online, I think, already thrives and probably wants to double down on going into GTA 6. I wonder what that means in terms of even how you approach getting people into stuff. Does it have to be that you hop in online and you're in the actual lobby and then you're hopping into things from there? Or do you start people off on a menu? Do you start them off on that four player screen and then go, all right, now, do you want to roam around in the world. Do you want to do a race? Do you want to create something? Do you want to hop into Andy Cortez's creation of a minigame? Like, what do you want to do, I wonder? Yeah, like, I'm sure there are things that they're looking at as far as how Fortnite tackles it to take into their own thing.
Andy Cortez
And more importantly, what is their parody of Fortnite in their world?
Blessing Adio Jr.
They're going to have a battle royale for sure.
Andy Cortez
No, but like, like the people, like.
Blessing Adio Jr.
What is the kid?
Andy Cortez
What is their. Because, you know, we talk. You know, when you think about Michael's son in that game, how he was all into his video games, what's going to be their version of Fortnite in their world?
Blessing Adio Jr.
Not the Lysander and Chad already already nailed it.
Andy Cortez
Nut fortnut for sure. That sounds pretty. That's pretty spot on.
Tim Gettys
We got a super chat from Dell Walker saying, interesting to see GTA 5 and 6 drop. With the 12 year gap, how do you think the generational time scale will affect Rockstar Legacy going forward? We kind of touched on this before, but like, I really do think we can't say until we see how six does. Like, if six lives up to any of the expectations it has, then it's like, yeah, Rockstar so far they have not missed even when they've made missteps. Like GTA 5 online sucked ass when it launched. That was a misstep, right? Red Dead Redemption 2 launching without the online. We're all like, what are you talking about? But here we are now. I feel like if it's that level of like, not fuck up, but whatever, and the rest of the game's great and they do a bunch of the big changes in advancing that we're looking for, then, yeah, the generations continue of Rockstar being dominant for, you know, multiple console generations at this point.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Do you think though that this is like we don't get another GTA after this until PlayStation 7?
Tim Gettys
I mean, I. I honestly feel like, yeah, like coming up with even seven, like, I don't know, it might be even longer, like with the way games are. Because at the same time, grandchildren, man. I do think that there's a world where this GTA 6 does just become the last GTA because it's just Fortnite it's ever present.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean, again, to the thing of they might add in more cities to the rumors and leaks and stuff. That would be the way where you make this the final gta. Hey, we have. You want to play In San Andreas. Guess what? GTA 6 has San Andreas. You want to go to Liberty City? Guess what? We have it.
Mike
It becomes a launcher. Just like Call of Duty.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Just like Assassin's Infinity.
Tim Gettys
Yeah. I mean I do think the fact that we're clearly getting a single player Grand Theft Auto is to some extent like not wasn't a guarantee. We now see this trailer. So now we know we're getting it. But GTA 6 could have just been Grand Theft Auto and it's just an online experience with maybe some like small narrative things or like the heists are the like single player content to whatever extent you want to look at it of or not single player it narrative plot content. Right. But no, they're, they're committing to this. But I would not be surprised if this is the last GTA of that type.
Andy Cortez
I think, I think the moment we saw the massive change was their single or their DLC content getting cut like that. That to me marked a massive change for their philosophy towards their franchises and how they're going to make money. And when we saw that one image of. I believe it was, was it Franklin's voice actor posting on Instagram, getting ready and you're like, oh, more, more story content. And then it never came out because they were like actually online makes a lot of money. Let's just do more of that.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean the fact that they had Dr. Dre for like a story thing.
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
And they're like, oh yeah, this is for sure going in online. It's like, oh, there is a prioritization here that's going on that, yeah, gta. Like I. That was one of the things I wanted to bring up for GTA 6 is do we finally see DLC stuff? Stuff. I mean four, six, not for five. Right. But like do we get single player DLC for this game?
Tim Gettys
I think the answer is unequivocally no, man.
Andy Cortez
No chance.
Tim Gettys
I think no chance at all. I feel like looking at GTA PS2 era, we got three separate games back to back. Like there was no room for DLC and also didn't exist but like boom, boom, boom. And then GTA 4 we got two spin offs or two DLC expansion packs. Right. Ballad of Gay Tony and the Lost and Damned. Damned. Yeah, like we got that and that made sense. It's like, okay, cool. Then GTA 5, we got online and they're like, we get, we get heist. We're not doing any of that stuff.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I. But like I feel like that like the success of online and just game development Being tough. Right. I think derailed them in a way where they're like, oh, we can't go with the original plan anymore because we gotta, we gotta all focus in on online. I wonder now that like we're in a place where it is the reset point. GTA 6 is coming out. Like, I can't imagine rockstar putting out GTA 6 right now and being like, all right, right. Next game, like the next time we put out a new GTA thing is going to be 15, 20 years from now. I would think that they're, they, some. They have to be talking about accelerating some kind of development. Even if it is like a 40 single player standalone thing.
Tim Gettys
That's different. I, I think, I mean look, we're insomniac. We're not Getting Spider Man 2 DLC. Like I feel like that is a sign of where we're at with this level of DLC content for single player stuff. Like do we get a Miles Morales? Do we get a Liberty City? Maybe that's too big, but maybe a San Andreas. Yeah, right.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean I think if you, if you add a city, you had to. I think you got to do new single player stuff in that city. I think, I think that's the, like, that's the way you roll it out.
Andy Cortez
Like, hey, here's another online though.
Blessing Adio Jr.
But I think it's both like online is where they're going to make that money and like retain people. But I think for the red carpet, like say six years from now. God, that's such a long time. Let's say four years from now. Just for me. Four years from now, right. Hey, we're San Andreas is ready. We're going to roll it out in GTA 6. What is the way you introduce that to the world? I think a some single player campaign. Even if it's six hours. Hours.
Tim Gettys
But yeah, that's. I'm with you there. I mean, how long was the, the Dr. Dre stuff?
Andy Cortez
Yeah, that's why I'm thinking it's just ends up being a Dr. Dre type thing.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Yeah.
Andy Cortez
A couple hours of story and it's a new place for you and your friends.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I would say like maybe like five hours. It's just you're going around and doing kind of repeated missions and stuff. But yeah, it's like, I think around that length. So yeah, I think you could do something like that for a single, a single player mode and make it work.
Tim Gettys
Yeah. I mean I could see them putting out Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and it is. We're Going back to San Andreas, there is some type of single player campaign but really it's really, it's about the, it's an excuse to get you to multiplayer.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Right?
Tim Gettys
But like yeah, not being GTA 7 but it being a, at that point, what, fifty, maybe sixty dollar release because they like their money and also it costs money to make these things. So. Yeah, interesting, interesting. Now last question I have for y'all. When do we Next Hear about GTA 6?
Andy Cortez
Oh man, I don't think we. I think maybe two months before it comes out. That's when we get big trailer big. So you know, I think after that you'll get some kind of follow up little press releases or whatever from Rockstar. But I think the next time we hear about it will be let's say it releases in. I'm thinking we at one point talked about like their fiscal earnings years or the quarterly stuff and where that may fall. Let's say it releases in May. I think the first time we hear about it is March of 2025.
Blessing Adio Jr.
It's going to come out the same day as the Switch too. I feel it. I think we got two more trailers left for GTA Vice or GTA 6. I think it is the single player gameplay overview trailer that, that's I don't know, eight minutes long of welcome to Vice City and they're walking you through a day in the life. And then I think the other trailer is the online trailer. I think, I think you get, oh, I think six months before. I think maybe let's say if I'm saying it comes out this fall, I'm going to say April, May, ish.
Tim Gettys
I'm thinking six months too. Mainly because they want this to be the biggest entertainment launch of all time. You need as much time to pre order, you need as much time to like get people ready, get people talking about of like yo, GTA 6 is actually coming. Here's the date. I don't have a PS5, I need to go buy one. Like that type of stuff. I feel like they want to get that brewing. So yeah, I, I think it's going to be a longer marketing period as opposed to a. All right, it's time to get it out the door.
Mike
And I think it'll be an even longer marketing period than that because I say we'll hear about it in like March, April time and at the end of that trailer it will say fall 2025 and then we get another trailer a few months later. Let's say July, August, one more trailer, maybe a little bit shorter. 20, 26.
Tim Gettys
Yeah. I mean, you're not. That's a. I think I have a.
Mike
Gut feeling that this is going to be a repeat of Red Dead 2, because Red Dead 2 went into a similar cycle of like, let's initially announce for this year. Now you don't hear from us for a while, then we're going to delay. And then I think they went through two big delays, if I'm remembering correctly.
Andy Cortez
But.
Mike
But yeah, I just feel it. I feel it in my bones.
Blessing Adio Jr.
I mean, very safe bet of a delay.
Tim Gettys
Yeah, I'm still feeling hopeful about end of next year. I. I feel like first half of next year is not going to happen, but I think second half, pretty late. Like, I think that makes sense. But I also think that I know fiscal quarters and all that stuff. GTA is a different beast. Where it behooves the more systems in people's houses, they're going to just sell more copies. So if it is later, they're just going to sell more. I think. And I think that they know that, that they're in a rare position that they can kind of look at it and be like, all right, we're going to take the hit here for our stockholders, whatever. But we know that that's going to result in having an audience that is 10 million more, 20 million more, whatever.
Blessing Adio Jr.
The closer you get it to the end of the gen, the like, you have the ability then for maybe a year later, if, like, say this came out the last year, the PS5, guess what? PlayStation 6 is going to have GTA 6 remaster on it. Like in that, in that first or second year, they're going to double. They're going to dip as much as they can, for sure.
Tim Gettys
For sure.
Blessing Adio Jr.
You're going to get that PC release. They're going to find a way to shove it into the switch.
Tim Gettys
Oh, yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
God, I hope. Do you think. Do you think they can somehow get away to shut? Can they get this on the switch too?
Tim Gettys
I mean, again, can it work?
Blessing Adio Jr.
They could barely get the GTA trilogy.
Andy Cortez
On the normal switch. Bless.
Blessing Adio Jr.
They could barely get the GTA trilogy on the PS5.
Tim Gettys
Come on. Yeah, I mean, I, I do think that there's a lot of X factors with the switch too. AI, all that stuff. I think that, yes, that GTA 6 to some extent will be able to play via cloud, via something. Is it going to be the way we play it? Absolutely not.
Andy Cortez
Oh, absolutely not.
Tim Gettys
Does Rockstar want it there? Absolutely, 100% so.
Blessing Adio Jr.
And I hope so. We'll see let's just see what that looks like.
Andy Cortez
After hearing that, it's kind of more of a bit of an overpowered PS4 Pro. That. That's what this like, new switch, you know, chipset's gonna be with AI upscaling on top of that. I'm gonna get shadow of a doubt. I'm gonna say a little. I'm gonna say like, yes.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Wow. Yeah. Like, I mean, I can't wait for like Thanksgiving. I'm gonna be in Houston. Houston with my nephews. I'm gonna like take a switch and be like, hey, give me a second. Secretly download GTA 6. Be like, don't tell your mom.
Andy Cortez
You don't gotta upscale it to 4K. You know what I mean? We could upscale that to 10. You run that shit at 360p, upscale it to 1080. Blessing.
Mike
That's a great dream. Hold on to that dream, you know?
Andy Cortez
Yeah.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Which. Oh, the switch dream.
Mike
Yeah, I'm it also coming out next fall.
Blessing Adio Jr.
No, I'm like on this. I mean, I listen, these guys, I think are more technically minded than I am. I would be shocked. I would be like, no way. But I mean, I mean, I want it to happen. I hope it happens.
Tim Gettys
Oh, man. Very interesting times ahead, everybody.
Blessing Adio Jr.
Oh, man.
Tim Gettys
Let us know in the comments below what you think about GTA 6 launching next year or the, the year after that or whenever you think it's going to launch. What are your hopes? What are your predictions? What do you not want to see? Just talk about GTA 6. Let's have a great time. One year after the first initial actual announcement of this video game. After this, we're about to do a little War Zone Wednesdays with Mike and Nick playing Call of Duty. Until next time, though. I love you all. Goodbye.
Kinda Funny Gamescast: GTA 6 – Hopes & Predictions
Released on December 4, 2024
In this highly anticipated episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast, hosts Tim Gettys, Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Blessing Adeoye Jr., and Andy Cortez delve deep into the one-year anniversary of the Grand Theft Auto VI (GTA 6) trailer leak. The discussion is rich with reflections, insights, and forward-looking predictions about what fans can expect from Rockstar Games' next flagship title.
The episode kicks off with the hosts reminiscing about the intense week when the GTA 6 trailer unofficially leaked. Tim Gettys sets the stage:
Tim Gettys [03:30]: "It also marks the one year anniversary of THE GTA 6 trailer unofficially coming out... We had a plan. We knew all hands on deck when this thing drops, we're going to be live reacting."
Blessing Adeoye Jr. adds his perspective:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [09:48]: "I think I'm excited for a GTA. I'm such a big GTA person... seeing how much Florida energy is captured here."
As the year progressed since the trailer leak, the hosts discuss how their expectations evolved in tandem with the gaming industry's advancements.
Greg Miller reflects:
Greg Miller [14:10]: "That's one of the things you just mentioned right now. I don't know if it can live up to the hype. I think the hype for this game is astronomical."
Blessing raises concerns about maintaining relevance:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [14:41]: "The hype for this game is astronomical... because in 2024, the gaming landscape has changed drastically since 2013."
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the balance between GTA 6's single-player narrative and the ever-evolving GTA Online component.
Andy Cortez shares his optimism:
Andy Cortez [20:28]: "Whatever we're about to get, we're not going to get a dated feeling shooting system... I think it'll live up for me."
Greg Miller draws parallels with Rockstar's past projects:
Greg Miller [35:08]: "I think they're gonna stick with that for GTA 6 and GTA Online because... it's about pumping that number up, being the biggest entertainment launch."
Combat has been a critique point in previous GTA titles, and the hosts express their hopes for significant improvements.
Tim Gettys emphasizes the need for tighter gunplay:
Tim Gettys [40:23]: "I do think that the combat needs that boost where I don't think it needs to be Last of Us levels of being able to throw your rope... but tighter feel."
Blessing shares his enthusiasm for detailed interactivity:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [56:14]: "I want to see my hair grow after a while and have to go get a haircut... those human touches are awe-inspiring."
Pricing remains a hot topic, especially with the increasing costs of blockbuster games. The hosts debate what GTA 6 might cost and how it will fit into the current market dynamics.
Greg Miller predicts a standard pricing model:
Greg Miller [30:08]: "I see it being $69.99 and I do see there being additions... To make that money and try to get that nostalgia out of you."
Blessing Adeoye Jr. remains cautious about price spikes:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [31:20]: "I think they'll do $70. And I think one of the big reasons is... GTA Online... they're going to be able to spend money on online activities."
Looking ahead, the hosts speculate on when Rockstar might officially announce and release GTA 6, considering the company's history with delays.
Andy Cortez anticipates a prolonged marketing phase:
Andy Cortez [69:18]: "I think maybe two months before it comes out. That's when we get a big trailer."
Blessing Adeoye Jr. adds:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [69:50]: "June, May-ish... Maybe let's say it comes out this fall, April, May-ish."
The conversation shifts towards Rockstar's influence on the broader gaming landscape and whether GTA 6 could set new standards or trends.
Greg Miller expresses high hopes:
Greg Miller [35:08]: "I hope it saves the industry... I really hope that this game can re-ingratiate people to buying full-priced games."
Blessing Adeoye Jr. shares concerns about pricing perceptions:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [24:52]: "I hope we don't have the opposite effect where GTA 6 comes out, everybody spends $70 on it and then you have a growing audience that sees what $70 looks like."
As the discussion nears its end, the hosts ponder Rockstar's future post-GTA 6 and the legacy the series holds.
Tim Gettys muses:
Tim Gettys [63:45]: "If GTA 6 lives up to expectations, then Rockstar's legacy continues for multiple console generations."
Andy Cortez raises a critical point about Rockstar's development priorities:
Andy Cortez [64:05]: "The moment we saw the massive change was their single or their DLC content getting cut... how they're going to make money."
Wrapping up, the hosts share their final hopes and concerns about GTA 6, emphasizing the balance between delivering an engaging single-player experience and a robust online component.
Blessing Adeoye Jr. concludes:
Blessing Adeoye Jr. [57:43]: "I don't want online or the single-player to detract from each other... They need to make both parts strong."
Tim Gettys leaves listeners with a hopeful outlook:
Tim Gettys [72:33]: "Very interesting times ahead, everybody. Let us know in the comments below what you think about GTA 6 launching next year or the year after that."
This episode of Kinda Funny Gamescast offers a comprehensive exploration of the myriad hopes and predictions surrounding GTA 6. From scrutinizing gameplay mechanics and pricing strategies to contemplating Rockstar's enduring legacy, the hosts provide invaluable insights for fans eagerly awaiting the next installment in the Grand Theft Auto series.