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There's a world where legends race across city skylines. Romance blossoms in glittering ballrooms. And there's magic around every corner. It's a world known to many as Great Britain.
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You've seen the action on screen.
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Now visit the real star of the show. Visit Great Britain. To discover more, go to tripadvisor.com Great Britain. What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kinda Funny Games cast for Wednesday, October 22, 2025. Blast through the Outer Worlds 2 in style with an exclusive skin for your raptodon in game pet. Brought to you by five Hour Energy. When you purchase a purple berry punch or mock melon brew 5 hour energy product, you'll receive a unique code to unlock exclusive the Outer Worlds 2 in game content. We'll tell you about that later. For now, I'm Greg Miller alongside Forbes 30 under 30 aka New York Game Awards nominated aka garlic sauce poppy blessing at AO Yay Jr have you had
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the little Lucas garlic sauce?
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I have had the little Lucas garlic.
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It's their secret ingredient.
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I'm right there with you.
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Yeah.
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If you don't know everybody. Little Luca Dynamite sandwich here and the Bay Area, my favorite.
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Yeah, I guess if I'm not counting hot boys chicken sandwiches.
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Yeah.
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You know what? I guess that technically is a sandwich. So I'll say my second favorite.
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But like, this is like a deli. It's like you're getting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I would go, I like Irving subs.
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Irving subs.
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Yeah. So here's my thing though. Mouth's watering. Yeah, It's. I'm right there with you. That a little Lucas sandwich is messy.
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Yeah.
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Whereas an Irving sub is like a sub. Like, and I grant it's also a conversation we'll follow up later this week of like, I'm ordering what I'm ordering. So, like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm getting a not messy sub. I guess I could probably get a not messy sub from little Luca, but I always feel like a wetter sandwich.
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But. And you don't like the wetness?
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Oh, I do. I just have to be in a mood for that. Like, that's my thing. You're. You, you're.
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You have to smell like garlic.
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You're gross afterwards, you have to be
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ready for what the rest of the day entails. If you're going to get little Luca. Yeah. You're going to smell like garlic. You're going to feel like your hands are oily. No matter what. You can wash your hands. You feel heavy. You can wash your hands. You're still going to feel oily for
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the rest of that.
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It like it. It goes into your sweat, I think. I don't know what happens to me after I eat little Luca, but it does take over.
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In the live chat, TL sharpshooter says, dude, I'm having hot boys for breakfast right now. That's the breakfast of champions right there. The world, it's hot boys. I like that.
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I'm so jealous right now.
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Yeah. Yeah. How are you doing? Very hungry. Are you hanging in there?
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I'm hanging in there.
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You had a great Games daily with Andy. Loved listening on that one.
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Thank you. Thank you. I felt bad because I made him do a lot of reading. A lot. Yeah.
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And he was struggling. You tossed that boy with the deep end.
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But it was, it was one of those news days. Big news. Shout out. Sarah Bond.
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Sarah Bond continuing to fund kind of funny games daily. Headlines out there, of course, and they're doing well.
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These episodes are doing well ever. Sarah Bond speaks so well.
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I'm sick of talking about Xbox blessing. And that's one of the reasons we thought this would be a good gamescast to do. Because if you didn't know. Each and every weekday on a variety of platforms, we come to you with the kind of funny gamescast talking about the biggest topics in gaming. Whether they be reviews, previews or just topics we need to talk about them. We tackle them each and every weekday here on YouTube.com kindafunnygames Twitch TV kindafunnygames, of course, podcast services around the globe. If you like that, hey, why not get a kind of funny membership? Of course, $10 gets you all of our content ad free. It gets you a daily dose of me, Greg Miller in a series we call Greg Way. And of course it gets you good karma for supporting an 11 person small business. No bucks tossed away. No big deal. Like subscribe, share, tell your friends if you have Amazon prime, you have Twitch prime. You could give us a free 30 day subscription that doesn't auto renew and they don't remind you about of course for a chance to be part of this show as we go with your thoughts on PlayStation's 2025 sound off in the kinda funny YouTube super chats YouTube.com kindafunnygames you can be there, be a part of it. Help us out. Some housekeeping for you. Remember, we're an 11 person business all about live talk shows. Kinda funny Games Daily was about how expensive the next Xbox will be. The premium Xbox. And after this, Andy and Nick are playing Jurassic World Evolution 3 and there has been so much drama on Slack and out there about the Amazon package and he needs for this stream. It used to be just stream the games. Now they're bless, you got to have the Amazon package.
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Roger is the one who changed everything.
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He did. He really changed.
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He got one. One what they call the thing that you walk onto the gym.
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A cane. A treadmill.
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Treadmill. Thank you. You get one treadmill. All of a sudden the streaming culture
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in this office, you know what I mean? I hear right now they're getting handcuffed to a raptor. If you're a kind of funny member, today's Greg Way so far is five minutes on Marvel Cosmic's Invasion's release date. Then a headache stopped me in my tracks. Then I had to prep this show and do a few other work. Well, you're going to get the other half of a Greg Way somewhere in there and who knows what it'll be by the time we get to it. But we're going to do it and it'll be fun. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining. Today we of course are brought to you by five Hour Energy and everything I was talking about. But we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Tats, tats, tats, tats, tats, tats, tats, tats. Blessing. It has been 538 days since our last episode of PS I Love youe XOXO when we bid that weekly PlayStation podcast to do and instead move to the Gamescast. Being a day by day topic by topic adventure, we would all go on together with the biggest news in the industry and we have had a lot of different plans. We like to tell you how the sausage gets made here. Yeah, we love talking about how the sausage gets made. We have had in the same version you might have heard before. Hey, there's this what happened to Ubisoft you talk about on Games Daily today, this gamescast about what happened to Ubisoft, yada yada yada, that's been kicked down the road. In the last three, four weeks we've had a hey, let's do a Ghost of Yote spoiler cast that has just been beat to shit. It's hey, it's gonna be me, Roger and Bless. Hey, we'll do part of it with a developer and then we'll do part of it. This is kind of funny. Well, I'm gone all the time for Ben stuff and then assignments and then you're gone and then Roger's gone and. Okay, well, we're all. We'll do it in two minutes. All right? We got the developer booked. Are the developer sick? Then it was like, all right, we are far enough and the juice isn't even there yet. No one is excited about that. So today was originally going to be one of the dates for the Ghost of Yote Spoiler ca. But Roger missed that he was going to be out today. So I was like, you know what? We're killing that one. That one's been put out to pasture. We're done with that. Okay, it's over.
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It's over.
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But if it's just blessing Greg on a podcast, what do we do? Is it going to the shit list is you and Tim's thing. You know what I mean? Get in there sometimes, Andy, whatever. Why not come back and talk about PlayStation? Because, frankly, bless. I'm sick of talking about Xbox all the time.
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I feel you.
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What the hell is going on in this world where Xbox is in the headlines every day? Never for good reasons.
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You know, the reason is because they actually talk. PlayStation gives us nothing. PlayStation, they don't go. They don't do interviews, they don't speak. Like, if they talk, it's when Mark Cerny for like five seconds wants to tell us that.
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He's like, hey, we have an AMD processor.
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We have an AMD processor chip that's going to be in the next gen PS5. Oh, that's awesome. So we talk about that, but it's like, there's only so much I can say about an AMD processor in a PS. In a PlayStation 6.
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Yeah.
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And so.
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So then blessing 538 days removed since PSI love UXOX final episode and almost all the way through 2025. Now I want to ask you, how are you feeling about PlayStation today?
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Today as in like 2025 or just in that?
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I want you to interpret the question. How does you want to. I think we're gonna do a lot of 2025 and a lot of looking forward and stuff like that, but I
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feel like we're on cruise control.
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Yes.
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In a way that doesn't feel. In a way that doesn't feel bad whatsoever, but also in a way that doesn't feel like, oh, we're in the best time to play games on PlayStation or whatever. Right. Like, we might be, but it's not. It's not the thing where I'm like, excited, I guess I'm excited for next year. I'm sure we'll talk about that later in the episode. But I'm excited for what's coming. I'm excited for Wolverine, I'm excited for Sorrows, you know, but like, I think this year feels like such a. All right, we did it again. You know what I mean? We put out that spanning two. We put out Ghost of Yote, we put out Lost Soul aside, don't forget. Oh, yeah, Lost Soul aside, which was. That was a dud. But like, it's kind of been like just a fine year, I'd say overall, for PlayStation. Find the good. Yeah, find the good. Because the games are good. Yeah, for the most part. But what about you? How do you feel about PlayStation right now?
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I mean, I think it's more of a question overall. Yeah, the games are good. Everything's fine again. It's. It's gonna be a weird conversation to have because PlayStation is doing so well. Obviously. I love my PlayStation 5. It does what it does incredibly well and I like that experience out of it. Blah, blah, blah. It's more the fact that. And this is me being an old head. This is me being someone who nearly, for nearly 20 years now is covered. Covered PlayStation. I guess that's not true really when you think about it. But eight years that IGN being the PlayStation team, then for sure doing PS I love you for so long and two spurts and all this different stuff. But PlayStation and Greg Miller have been synonymous for a long time. And so I am not talking about the quality of the products, the games or anything to that point, but in a lot of ways I sit here and I don't. For me, not the quality of the games and the products. PlayStation has lost the sauce. Like I don't feel that connection to PlayStation anymore, which I think of course is. Well, it's not my beat, so I'm not a part of it on that level where I'm talking in blah, blah, blah. But to your point, they don't talk. Yeah, the. The fact that PSX is gone, that there's just no. I feel like for me, PlayStation is just devoid of a personality now. And I don't mean that as a person because of course you could look at State of Playing and talk about sid. You could talk about Sean, people I know incredibly well. Yeah, I know so many people. PlayStation there. But I mean, like, what is the
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fan culture of PlayStation?
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That's what I'm talking about. We had a. And I think this is definitely. We lived it. We had a. We. Even when you weren't in the industry, you were there for this PlayStation.
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I mean, I went to a PSX
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2017 PSX and we're making videos and here's how you share the game. And you got Jack Trenton, you got Kevin Butler. Yeah. It's like, ah, like this is fucking fun.
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And I think there was also the levels of. I mean, we talk about them talking and not talking, right. Shuhei Yoshida evangelizing these indie games.
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Yeah.
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You know, you identify with PlayStation via the God of war wars and the spider man and stuff. But then also there's the chicories, right. There's like the, the concrete genies. There's like a, I think a tearing of games where it is, man, all of it feels like Play Stray. You know, even Sifu was a PlayStation exclusive when it launched on console. Right. Like there was, I think, a culture around the games that were coming to PlayStation that felt like they had the PlayStation, PlayStation identity. Plus all the things that you're talking about with PSX and everything that led to a culture around it where even for me online, I see more Xbox talk on my algorithms than I see PlayStation talk. Right. Like I see.
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And you got to imagine PlayStation so happy with that. Oh, this is what they wanted. When they started getting everybody to stop talking and they became a walled guard and they became just a tower and maybe Herman comes down occasionally and says two words.
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You know, in a way I, I think it's preferred, right. Because when I see the Xbox talk, usually people are mad and so like, do you want.
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And then six months from now, yeah, people are mad because they're referencing what Xbox said and now they're changing the course and not doing it.
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When I see PlayStation Talk on my algorithm, it's usually, ah, Ghostly came out and it's the greatest game of all time. And I'm kind of like, all right, cool.
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Great job yesterday, by the way, shutting somebody down on the Super Chat comment, I was just like, oh my God, reviewers are our dog. And on Ghost Year, like, are you and Andy were both like, are they? Bear was like, are they? No, The Metacritics, I. I don't know. The Metacrit 86, like, everybody's doing pretty well.
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God. But yeah, I don't know. Like, I, I think I hear what you're talking, what you're saying. Because I didn't want to lead off by saying this, right? Because I don't want to appear as negative, but I do think that there is a level of, yeah, PlayStation is kind of boring.
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Well, I think I, I think that's, I think that is impossible. To deny PlayStation is kind of boring. I don't take it or even say it as an insult. I think that it is what's right for business. Clearly. I think it's gotten them to where they are. It's gotten them to where, you know, this is a back and forth. You know, Tim always gets involved with right. Of like, is the, what's the PlayStation 5 generation been? Has it been a flop? Has it been this about like. I don't think they have the cadence of exclusives that like the PlayStation 3 generation did or even PlayStation 4 did. But it hasn't mattered because they've been slow, steady. The games they do put out are generally great.
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Yeah.
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You know, are well received and serve this audience. And again, they've won the war that we always talk about when we talk about Xbox and Phil Spencer saying they lost the worst generation to lose. They have the audience, somebody in the chat, it's gone now had said, you know, PlayStation is just, is mainstream now. And that's the thing, right? They are the. You want a tv, you get, you buy the new TV and you want to play Madden, Call of Duty, whatever the mainstream game is, you buy a PlayStation alongside it and put it there and you play that and that's great. That's not bad. I'm not, I'm not sitting here going, that sucks. I'm just like in terms of not having talked about PlayStation specifically and given PlayStation, the. The room to be criticized isn't even the right word. Again, they're doing the right things here. Like I, we're coming, we talk all the time. How many goddamn layoff stories and did you talk about today on Games Daily? Oh, and restructuring and what's happening at Massive and so on and so forth.
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Right.
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Like that is coming from people constantly going in and trying to figure out how to pivot, what to do, how to do it. And like, don't get me wrong, PlayStation, we talk about what's going to happen. Games, we can talk about marathon, we can talk about concord. Thank you. The game, I can't even remember because they went like all of these things are wrapped up in that conversation. But for the most part, PlayStation is quiet, slow, steady, puts their games out, isn't doing this crazy thing of. Our games are everywhere. They are on PC eventually, but aren't. Yeah, we're trying to do this, we're trying to get you on the cloud which everything's a PlayStation. No, this fucking box is a PlayStation. Buy this very expensive box if you want to do that.
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Yeah.
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If you need A fancier box. You can go look at a PC.
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And now if we're going to talk about 2024, I want to. I should have done more, I guess. I was on KFC before this, so I didn't have the time. But like, if I could have done more, I guess research. I would have liked to compare and contrast the years of the PS5 because I do feel like 2024 is a weaker year. I feel like 2024. I know go see Otay and destroying two are the big ones, but you're talking about 2024 or sorry, not 2024. 2025.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So the year that we're in right now, I feel like it's been one of the weaker ones.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Last year, what are we talking about? We had Astrobot, of course. Come on Game.
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Last year you had Astro yet. Final Fantasy 7, Rebirth. What do you mean?
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They didn't do it for me. So I'm not. I'm. I'm happier having Death Trading and ghosts.
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And then Helldivers 2 was last year, right?
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Yes, I did on my 2025 recap here, put Helldivers 2 coming to Xbox. You can like we're talking about PlayStation and what they did this year.
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Concord. Last year it was Concord.
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The year before Concord was last year.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Because I was gonna bring in the. I think death training 2 and go see Yote have been the big ones. But you also, I. We got. We got to talk about Lost Soul aside in Marathon. I know Marathon's not out yet, but like I think that's a problem. I.
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At the beginning, Marathon's less of a problem than Concord. That was last year. So there. Boom. And of course last year had Rise of the Rodent as they're calling out Stellar Blade.
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Oh yeah. I'll still. I believe it was last year. Oh man. Yeah. And so I think we're just talking this year. I think we're talking about a lower volume of first party stuff.
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Oh, for sure. Yeah.
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And then the first party stuff that's come out like Giot has been great and then Destiny 2 has been great. But I. I feel like. I don't know, I just feel like volume wise, it's been quieter this year. I guess that's my whole argument.
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Well, and that's what gets hard about the arguments again is that we feel that way. You know, I feel that way. And I saw right over here in the chat. It's already gone. You guys are talking today. Talking about this has been the weakest generation for PlayStation in a decade or whatever. Somebody said like, or weakest year in a decade. Whenever I screwed up there.
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Yeah.
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It is that idea of like, it's because it's just become so boring. No, I don't, I don't think that's bad. Especially as we see the industry in free fall and so many things. But I think for the most part, PlayStation plays it safe. You know what you're going to get when you see Ghost of Yotai. We know. For most part, I know what I'm gonna get from Wolverine. Not moment to moment. We're gonna push here. But like, that's gonna be an insomniac superhero game. That's gonna be great. Yeah. Death stranding. Okay. More weird Kojima shit. Like, that's great. But it's. We aren't seeing the concrete genies right now. You could kind of pull back and look at next year and go, well, Sorrows. But Sorrows, come on. Is a spiritual successor to what worked so well in Returnal. Thank you. I can see her face. I'm like, yo, help me fill in the gap there or whatever. Like, and that these aren't bad things. I just don't think that they're crazy different things. But again then crazy different things. Do they move the needle?
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But I think they move the needle, I think is for sure something to talk about. But I think they add flavoring in a way that makes being in the ecosystem exciting because.
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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When I look at next year compared to this year. Yeah. You're talking about Soros and Wolverine, which I think are the. The main ones. But then you're also talking about Marvel Token Fighting Souls, which I think does so much for the PlayStation, PlayStation library. And I can talk about like how much they've leaned into fighting games, but even when you're just talking about the kind kind of game that it is, it is a Marvel game. It is a Marvel game that is essentially the return of a Marvel vs Capcom type experience coming from Arc System Works. That's going to make waves. Right? That's. I'm not saying that's going to sell comparatively to Wolverine by means, but it's going to do really well. And also it's going to, I think give people another reason to be like, oh, damn, all right, that's another notch. Like, that's another. That's another win right there that I think is giving us more. More flavoring than like the typical first party stuff. And it's weird because I, I don't want to act like Death straining two is the most typical thing because it's one of the weirdest we're walking. But I, I think every year I expect to get two or three PlayStation first party games. For me, I'm like, what are you doing for me in between. Yeah, that's really coloring in the experience of. Oh man. All right, PlayStation.
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You bring up this interesting thought though, of ecosystem, which I think speaks then to PlayStation fandom. Right? And I just don't think, granted, it's. I'm in such a different place of Living, that PlayStation 3 era, where the PlayStation fan base is eating shit constantly, PlayStation 4 winning constantly. Like, I do wonder in the world we live in, in the existence of this fractured attention economy, how many people glom onto being a PlayStation gamer in the same way. I just feel like that, and maybe it's my own shifts in my own life and all these different things, but with fewer exclusives and fewer things reaching out to be like, hey, thank you for being part of the PlayStation community. It just feels like that's been eroded. And again, I don't think it's bad, but I also think PlayStation is going. Are we worried about diversifying the ecosystem when we're going to get third party games to come into this game to fill in those gaps? Yeah, we're going to get indies. I say that because they don't always get them right. But again, do they really care? We talk about the 16% from Matt Piscatella at Circana talking about these are the people who make games go and buy so many different games. Like it's, There's a weird calculus I feel like going on at PlayStation where they're sitting there going, less is more. We should, we don't need to invest in this crazy thing. And again, we're still seeing the ripples and the ramifications from this. Jim Ryan, let's do all these live services. We got 12 live service. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, and that went. So it will be interesting to see, and I know this sounds crazy, three to five years, what the lineups of first party PlayStation exclusives look like. But again, with them fumbling the way they did with that initiative, but still winning the way they're winning right now. They have to be going like, whoa, hold up a second. How much money do we really need to spend to keep this going?
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What do you think that, what do you think the reaction to that from them ends up being right? Like, what is. What are the learnings from PlayStation that then carry on into how they continue to Operate.
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I think they continue to be slow and steady. I think you don't get that this is where it gets weird because what are we talking about anymore with console lifecycle and console generations? And what does that actually mean? I think games that must have been planned here for the back half of PS5 are be. Well, like, what can we do to make it a PS6 game? And this gets so hard to talk about because we don't know what the PlayStation 6 will be. Is it just an iterative, more powerful PlayStation 5? Is it backwards compatible in a way that like there's the. We're still doing two versions. Are we doing. You're just buying a PlayStation game and it runs on both. That's where I don't want to get.
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But I think you talking about like PlayStation 6 exclusives?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Do those exist at launch? Do those exit?
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I do. I think they're going to be so traditional in the way they do it. Like, I think. I think it's going to look exactly like that transition from PS4 to PS5
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where we'll be getting bugs next PS4 and bugs next PS5.
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I think we're going to get that, but I think we'll get one or two PlayStation 6 exclusives. I think is a bet I'll make. I think Fizzing is going to be a PS6 exclusive.
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Oh yeah.
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I think that'll launch in the first year or two of the PlayStation 6 and I think that'll just be PS6. But then you're also going to get whatever insomniac game that's gonna be for both or whatever like other quote unquote PlayStation exclusives that are gonna be on both PS4, PS4 or PS5, PS6. But you're gonna have one or two key like these are the needle movers for us to make people make that jump. Because I think you always need at least for how they're operating now where they're in that weird middle space between a Nintendo and an Xbox. Right. I think you still need those console exclusives to make people make that jump. Otherwise I think you then commit to being generational.
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And I don't think that's their.
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I don't think that's their move.
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Yeah, yeah, they're. They're finding some.
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I think they're going to look more like Nintendo in this, in that regard.
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Yeah. How did you think, like it's funny to come off of this games daily right today talking about Sarah Bond being like, the next Xbox is going to be premium. Do you think that that's going to be if I'm PlayStation right now and I hear that and they probably knew it already, but. Or whatever. But if I hear that, I'm sitting there going, oh my God, yes. Because PlayStation, I assume, is going to be another box that is 500, $600 tariffs, whatever we're at. Right.
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I think it'll be more. But. And I think. But I think it's going to be. I think it's just based off of tariffs in world economics. PlayStation 6 coming in at $700 and them and us just having to make peace with.
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If that's. You think that's. What do you think Xbox would be then for a premium Xbox, $1,000.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Okay.
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I think that's what we're talking about me.
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I think I agree with you. That's where would go, right. US$999. And so if that's. If I PlayStation, I'm thinking how can we get this thing down to 600 tops, 599 tops.
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I just don't know if that's possible with parts and all that shit for sure. Because you have to make the PS6 more powerful than PS5. I don't know what the. The features are. I guess the features might just be the AI evolution or whatever. And like the partnership with. Oh, not like.
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Not Xbox is the AI evolution. Well, no.
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PlayStation.
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God.
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But like in the way of like DLSS. I'm not talking general.
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Oh, okay, good.
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Yeah. I think where. I think when they're talking about what the next PlayStation, it's going to be double. It's going to be doubling down on. All right, you see the pisser this is. Now, I don't think it'll be pssr.
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Right.
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Because. And this is a kind of funny dot com. You're wrong. Even though. Wrong.
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I'll throw up in your wrong. Yeah. Okay.
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Of they're now partnering, it was AMD that Mark Cerny announced it with. So I think it's going to be more of AMD's AI innovations that you're going to see on the PlayStation side. So whatever they call that, okay. PlayStation, I think that'll be the big thing. And then a lot of the features, whatever ray tracing, whatever thing they want to talk about there will be framed around that. That's my guess.
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Okay.
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And I think we're talking about that maybe they're able to get the price down because a lot of the technical visual improvements are happening via the AMD is fsr. Fsr. Thank you. Thank you. Chat, maybe that helps with the price, but I'd also think that maybe that actually makes the price more so. That's where I come down on $700. Because I'm just expecting now with any hardware, like any hardware that's coming out, I'm just putting 100 to $200 more on the price tag.
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It's like, yeah, we're going to eat it. It's going to happen.
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It's going to happen. Yeah.
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Have to go that way. I want to get some super chats in here. You all have been talkative. Remember YouTube.com/, kind of funny games to be part of our ongoing discussion. Mike wrote in and said 2025, PlayStation is like that best friend that moves away and you still kind of keep in touch, but you're not having those same kind of moments like the good old days. That's too real. I don't like that. But yeah, that's 100% what I feel like. And again, I am not knocking this. I'm just having an honest conversation about it. Like, I think it works for PlayStation. It's just been interesting to see it move around.
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I'll ask you a question.
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Sure.
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Because we've talked a lot about how now you're gaming in all these different places.
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Yeah.
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Is there when you buy, when you get a new game or you're getting a code for a game to review, do you still get PlayStation codes or is there a reason why you would ask for a PlayStation code over any other platform?
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There's reasons, yeah. This is a thing that I do, I think most of the time, you know, to pull our curtain back again. When you get approached for a game code here, and this is maybe too broad a brush, but it does happen often. Usually it's, we have PC codes ready to go. Usually when somebody hits you up and say, hey, do you want to review code? We have PC now. Often it's followed up by consoles at a later date, closer to launch, yada, yada, yada. Because of course, it's easier for Steam to generate codes and give them out, apparently, than it is for PlayStation, Xbox and Switch especially, to actually go do it. So that factors in. And then it becomes also a little bit of like, well, what is the next. What do the next few weeks look like for me? Am I on the road? Am I having to do this thing? Am I going to have time to go down and sit at the big TV where I want to be parked in front of it? But even that's going away. Kevin, can you throw up the hyperlink I have in the dock for Greg's trophies this year, I've had this feeling. We, of course, did a gamescast last week where I apologized to PC gamers and ran through, hey, you know, I've been doing more and more, obviously, and I've been doing it since I started really hardcore using the Rog Ally at the beginning of the year, but especially now with the razor blade 16, especially now with this Xbox One. This is very much napkin math. So this isn't 100% accurate, but I ran back and October. So 2025, January to October for 20. I'm sorry, let me try it again. January to October, 2024. Looking at last year, right, I had done 46 trophy lists on my PlayStation so far. Again, is that entirely accurate? No. You figure if I got a new trophy in a game I played during that period, it would pop up in 2025. Obviously there's a little bit of there. I'm not cutting off the same date Yeti, yada yada. So 46 games last year for a similar time period. This year for 2025, so far only 36. So 11 less there. And what I think is disturbing, if you scroll slowly here, Kevin, what you actually see is my son. Lego Star Wars, Sonic Cross Worlds, Rocket League, Hot Wheel. Like, these aren't games. I'm actually starting on my PlayStation. It's that Ben wants to play Sonic Shadow Generations. And we go and play this, right? We want to try Minecraft. We throw on Minecraft. So this has been a year of I have the Ally. I have Xbox play anywhere. I'm playing those games somewhere else. I'm using Game Pass, right? Like again, for this year where, hey, we're popping up and for the Gnome Guard, why not make another account? The Omega Nerd. The Omega Nerd. Why not make another account, sir, I have like 3,000 PlayStation games on my PSN. I'm not. I'm not making a family. Also, Ben never wants to do the story Spider Man. He wants to jump in and he wants to swing. He's tried to start a new game the other day and he's like, can you help me? And I'm like, I'm like, just go and swing in my save. He wants to go and do that stuff. He wants everything unlocked. He's not that much of a kid yet, right? Anyways, the convenience of having all the games installed locally on the gaming PC. The convenience of. All right, cool. I'm on the road playing it on this Rog Ally or now the Razer Blade. Well, actually, no. That changes again. Playing it on the Rog and then I want to come home and I want to throw it up on the tv. I can do Xbox play anywhere now having the Razer Blade 16 that I love this gaming laptop that when it runs unreleased borderlands and unreleased, redacted, sounds like a jet engine. But I can put up with it. I can just plug the HDMI in there, right? Like what I said last week in my PC gaming games. Cast is still here where it's like I always went to consoles because they were convenient. I wanted to turn them on and I wanted them to work and I wanted to play my games. I didn't want to worry about my driver. I didn't want to worry about this. Why isn't this compatible? That. That, that for the most part PC gaming's figure that out. At least with the I'm a stupid moron who's buying or getting sent for Review. Razer Blade 16 Rog, Ally X. Hey. They just work and they're. They're top of the line right now. So I'm not worried about anything. They're doing what I want. And then it's now the convenience of I want the game with me all the time. I can't. You've listened to me a long time. You've heard these ridiculous fucking stories of me dragging PlayStation fours and second screens onto planes and having them rigged up like it was the same thing with the Xbox series S and the X screen of like, I want to play my real game that I'm reviewing on the airplane. And the inability of to do that has always been such a pain in my ass to do it on the road, to do it on the couch. Oh well, there's remote play and I love my PlayStation portal. I think most of the stuff you see there, I'm probably putting the most time in personally on the portal before I go downstairs to do it or in bed or whatever. I. There's still that thing. There's still that latency. There's still a thing of me playing skate and being like, ah, this challenge is just too tricky for me to do on the portal.
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Yeah.
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And then what happens? We live in an age of convenience where my skate account isn't tied to my PlayStation, it's tied to my skater. So of course, when my Rog Ally can run skate, I'm there doing that. I'm playing on the Ally handheld.
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Cross save.
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Cross save brother.
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No way.
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Yeah.
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Skaters.
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Yeah. You have your EA account or whatever, your skate account or whatever. It is. You can play it wherever it is. So if I install every one of
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my devices, if I knew this the whole time, I'd be playing so much more skate.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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All right. That's good to know.
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Yeah, it's just like Fortnite and all that where it's like, you know, you buy something, the battle pass over there and it's over there. You've got it all set to go.
B
Oh, hell yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, that's my thing of, like, it's been fascinating in 2025 to see the scales finally flip here. Where it is the convenience for me has always been why I go to console. But the PC in general handheld thing is so convenient.
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Yeah.
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And what I want to do, that it's just there.
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So I think that answer actually flows nicely into my answer. But then also what I think PlayStation could do. And this is going to be speculation, right. Of like, where. Where places PlayStation might go that might bring me back around because, yeah, I think I'm in a lot of ways similar to you as far as it really. It just comes down to how do I want to play in my convenience. The convenience factor. I've been requesting a lot more PC codes lately because. Because of the Steam deck and because my. My home setup now. I now have a 4080 in my tower. And this is the same, like, setup that I play my PlayStation 5 at. Right. So literally, I'm playing off the same monitor for both these things. But then the Steam deck lets me play it on the go. I've kind of given up on my portal. Oh, wow.
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Well, I guess it doesn't fit your lifestyle.
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It just doesn't fit my lifestyle because, like, you know, I. I feel like I struggle when it is. All right, one, I don't have a case for the portal for if I'm traveling, but then also when I'm traveling.
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Why would you take it?
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Why would I take my portal travel? Exactly.
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I've heard these stories. Oh, I used it on an airplane. I use it on hotel WI fi. I'm like, I'm not bringing. I'm not lugging this fragile device. Not fragile, but like, this device. I don't want a beautiful device. I don't want to get hurt. I'm not lugging it to the hotel, hoping 1,000%. Yeah.
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And that's the thing is that. And then also I feel like it's not going to work on hotel or airplane WI fi half the time the way that I want it to really feel that I'M having that experience, and so I want to play something natively. I'm not like a cloud streaming person. And so a lot of that lends itself toward the PC stuff. But there's still something about, I think, my home experience of playing PlayStation 5 and having. I'm going to speak from a place of privilege here, right. Having the Pulse head headset and my dualsense Edge. And like, I think there is something to what PlayStation has been trying to build with their whole hardware, like, accessory lineup to really make it feel like, oh, this is something that you can only. This is an experience you can only have on PlayStation. I don't think it's gotten to the place where that's the big, big selling point yet. However, I. For Luminescent Rise, that game is coming up.
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Let's fucking go.
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And I'm gonna request that game on PlayStation because of PlayStation VR 2, which is the.
A
Oh, nice.
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A sentence that, like, in the last
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two years, who would have thought you'd ever. We'd ever thought you'd talk about PlayStation VR 2 positively.
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Yeah, exactly. I'm in a place where I'm like, oh, I got to play. When I. After I played that demo on Steam, I was like, oh, man, this game is incredible. Oh, shit, this is going to be in VR. I got to play this game in psvr and psvr too. Which makes me think about the hardware lineup of PlayStation More. Because I think when we talk about the lacking of personality or whatever, I think for me, a lot of it comes from the swings that just didn't work out. PlayStation VR 2 didn't work out. And so now that's the thing that's just like. That's just the thing that exists in my closet that I think would have added a bit to the character of PlayStation, but just didn't. At least for me, PlayStation VR isn't there. And I'm sure for a lot of people I would say the same. Oh, man, I forgot where I was gonna go with that. But, yeah, that's. That's essentially one of the things. One of the conversations that we have regarding PlayStation is, and this comes off the portal is handheld stuff. Are we going to get a PlayStation handheld? Because I think for me, that solves so much of where the Steam deck comes in for me and how that works and all that stuff. If PlayStation puts out a native handheld that lets me play, like, even just, I guess, older PS5 games or whatever it is, yeah, I'm going to be fully into the PlayStation ecosystem. Oh, I remember I was Going to go, which is more so the swings that they miss which gets into the multiplayer stuff that just oh sure, it didn't work out. Blue points. Game not coming out. Ben Studios game not coming out. Like that type of shit I think has left this gap, has left this kind of like a little bit of a desert. Even though we're getting some games still. Anyway, coming back around to the handheld thing, I think there is an opportunity there for PlayStation to continue to add to the character of what the PlayStation experience is to bring me back into the ecosystem fully. But I think we just got to get there. And also where are you at with the PlayStation handheld? Is that happening?
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Yeah, I think so. Where there's smokes, there's fires. The old kind of funny thing used to go right where I feel like enough talk has happened and I think you see Xbox doing this ally thing. You see the success of the switch, you see PlayStation let's, I mean like as we talk about generations mattering less than ever and you talk then about okay cool, how do we sell more hardware to make more gamers happy, stay or whatever. Like you can only buy so many PlayStation fives. You buy the one, you buy the Pro, you whatever. Like if they're gonna then say well we can take all the innards of that and put it into a smaller thing again you're gonna get people to go buy it. And I think that yes, PlayStation looks that goes yes, we want, we want that thing. We want to be able to chase it. My, my concern is when we talked about handhelds and gaming's and where we're going gaming for the past forever, but probably around Steam Deck where I had my Steam Deck but I just wasn't, I wasn't feeling it. I didn't feel the Steam ecosystem. So many games didn't work at the time. But I'm talking about launch of it, right? Yeah, it was that dream of PlayStation. I used to say Xbox doing it where I'd be. I was like, I would go where that goes. I want my games on the go. By the time I think PlayStation gets it together and does a PlayStation handheld, I'll be fucking stoked. I love having my games, you know, again playing Ghost of Yotei for review and for fun on the portal is great, but again there's oh hold on, let the Internet connect or do something or whatever. I don't want to worry about that. I want it just natively. My concern is by the time they do that, I'm gonna be way far gone on this really well, think about it. It's like how many indies come to PlayStation 5 six months a year after their Steam launch and their game pass launch or early access. Stuff like Rattatan, the spiritual successor to patapon, isn't on PlayStation right now because it's in early access and it's only on PC, which is great for me because I get to go play this awesome, you know, spiritual successor to Patapon when I want to and do this roguelike version of Pat that I love. And if you haven't heard me talk about it, go fucking play it. If you liked Bat upon, it's very different, but you'll wrap your head around eventually, have a great time. But it's like by the time that comes to PlayStation in full release, how many dozens of hours am I going to have on Steam? And why wouldn't I just want to stay there with the version that then upgrade? Like it's that idea and it's going to be the same thing then of like, cool. As this tech of the gaming handhelds, PC handhelds, whatever, continues to escalate and get better by the time the PlayStation launches. And they're like, yeah, well, it's about the power of a PlayStation 5 maybe, you know, a little bit less than a pro. It's not the PS6. Well, it's like we're back to, well, I'm gonna want to play the PlayStation 6 game on the PlayStation 6, right? The exclusive.
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Yeah.
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And I'm gonna want the nicest game possible over wherever I can see.
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The rebuttal I give is that I think this comes back to where we're gonna be out with the generation or whatever.
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Right.
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And I think to my. To the point I made earlier, I think a. I think if you get a physant in that PlayStation 6 launch period, that's. This is only playable on PlayStation 6. I think you'll still get a Spider Man 3 that's playable on PS5 and PS6.
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Yeah.
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And if we're in that same season getting the alleged PlayStation handheld that, let's say it plays PlayStation 5 games, I'm playing, I'm playing Spider Man 3 on my PlayStation portable. Yeah, right. Like, but here's my thing, and I think that's gonna last for a while. I think for. It's gonna be like three or four years of us getting those crossover titles.
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100. And I agree with you on that.
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Yeah.
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But at that point I'm also sitting there going, and this would be me as a consumer, not me as a reviewer who would get it or whatever. I have such a great experience on my portal already. What would be the point of me buying, like, you know, I mean, they got the Road and Go. Sure, take it on the Road and Go. But if I'm already locked in on this PC version, Road and Go, if I'm only already using my PlayStation 5 for exclusives, which I pretty much am, as my trophy list shows. It's like, well, I'm. They're losing me more and more over here, right? Like, I talked about this on Greg way of like, it was a redacted. And then we did it. We talked about. But like, for some reason over on the razor blade 16, I cannot get Vampire the Masquerade, Bloodlines 2 to run on it. Like, it just hangs on the open. It doesn't even get to the game. It just hangs on the load screen of like, Bloodlines. And so I was like, when. When it was review and I was trying to figure this all out, I booted up the Rog Ally it ran on that I played on the afternoon. The Rog, of course, a great machine, but it's not the most powerful guy in the world. So it's like, oh, this looks garbage Y. And so I hit a pr. I'm like, hey, they were giving me things for PC. And I'm like, we are well out of my depth. Nor do I want to do this convenience. Can you just Give me the PlayStation 5 code and I'll start it there? They did. I did. I did afternoon and two afternoons with it. It's like I've told you and I talked about it in the Greg way. It's a very interesting, quaint. It's a PS3 game. It feels like a fucking PS3 RPG, which I'm not against, especially in spooky seasons being vampires and yada yada, yada. I want to get back to that when I'm done with redacted. And there's a moment here before the next redacted comes, right? And it's that thing of like, I booted it on the razor today and it didn't work. And I'm like, all right, I'll continue on PS5. And then I was like, wait a second. Nvidia GeForce now. Boom, there it is. Yeah, I'm going to give up the 5 hours I have on PlayStation to then play it here on Nvidia, right? Which I can play on the Mac, which I can play on the Razer, which I can play on the Rog and have it running with a 5080 this isn't an ad. A 5080 RTX. Right. It's like, well, yeah, duh, I'd rather do that because I don't know when I'm picking that game up and going with that game and that'll work so well. It's like to then go, PlayStation's got a handheld. Great. I'm fucking lost in the sauce of having. So I, I now have multiple options on how to play a game outside of the plate. Like, yeah, you know, this is always in. So it. I know for PC people, they're screaming of like, it's always been this way and it has, but there's been hurdles and now more than ever the hurdles are so small. Like it's, it's. It's so easy to buy this stuff off the shelf and go for it. That like, Yes, I want PlayStation to make a handheld. And I think there's an interesting comment that actually grabbed over here. Spartan 2842 over in the live chat said, I feel both Greg and Bless are a very small demographic. Most people are commuting for work or playing at home. I can't imagine spending 500 to a thousand on something just to play 20 minutes at a time. You're not wrong. We are well aware the gaming handheld market is a very small piece of the pie. I'm not saying this is going to lead to PlayStation's downfall. You're taught. You're listening to an enthusiast video game podcast about how we consume games and where we're at with PlayStation. And I'm just telling you that the convenience race for my life has been won right now by PC gaming and Xbox play anywhere or whatever.
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Yeah. I do think that as far as like the, that small piece of the pie that are into like the handheld stuff, I do think that the PlayStation brand does so much for that, though. It's going to be in contrast to, I guess, how I feel about the Xbox Rog Ally where I view that so much as a PC handheld that just happens to have some Xbox branding to it. I. And I don't, I don't think that's for everybody.
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Right.
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I think that's for that, like, small piece of pie. When PlayStation puts out a console PlayStation handheld, I think that speaks to a way broader audience I think you're talking to. I mean, you go to people and be like, yo, this is the next psp. This is the next. Maybe leave out Vita.
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Not even. Right. Like depending on the level of power for this PlayStation Portable, it becomes, yo, this is the PlayStation Switch. Yeah, this isn't a PSP. This isn't knockoff games that aren't as good as your full fledged PlayStation. This is the PlayStation in the palm of your hands. Yes, it looks worse and it doesn't run this da da da. But it's like it is. It's PlayStation. You get to do whatever you want not to get.
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I know this is almost like a different conversation or a deeper conversation, but I'm loving it.
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We're having a great show.
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But I think at that point if I'm PlayStation and I put out a new PlayStation handheld that has the power of the PS5 because it has, you know, AI pisser, AMD, whatever it is, right? Like that it's able to get there and you're able to sell it. Do whatever. Like I think maybe you can even look at some of your first party studios and go, hey, focus this. Like we want to make your PS4 or sorry, not PS4. I keep saying PS4, make your PS5, PS6 cross gen game but we're going to market it heavily for the handheld. We're going to make people look at this handheld and go damn, they're putting everything out for this thing. Like they are. This is like this is essentially exists as a, as a new portable console.
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To me, Eric86 says that Portal is going to hit so hard. Don't doubt it. Like everyone did the portal. Yeah, people love that portal. People want the portal. They can't believe it works. You know what I mean? Like yeah, I think you come in and do it.
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The price has to be right though. That's the thing.
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Of course. Spartan 2842 I'm going to do this and then get to an ad break. Popped in and said wait, read my other comment was a better follow up. Then Spartan said in a follow up I believe this is it. Plus I work in front of a PC all day. I'm not gaming on PC because it reminds me of work. It all comes down to what is convenient for you to play. Second last part there. It all comes down to what is convenient for you to play. 100% you are totally right. I'm right there with you. The first part of your statement is what I said for years because it was annoying as shit as I always joked around to get. I have my giant tv, I hooked the fucking tower up. Then I got this mouse and keyboard and I'm staring up at it like that shit's done, that shit is over. Like the rog and the touchscreen doesn't feel like I'm Working on a PC. When I put the laptop in and I do it over there, I'm using the controller. Doesn't feel like I'm using a PC and like big picture modes have been around forever. So I'm not trying to act like that's a revelation. The full screen Xbox experience. I'm not trying to act like that's a revelation, but it is. The idea that that hurdle is now so tiny. I do not. When I use the laptop and I plug the HDMI into it and it throws it up on my screen, I do not feel like I'm using a PC and I'm sitting on my couch with a wireless thing. Back to you Talking about the PlayStation hardware and how the Pulse Elites and the Pulse Smalls, whatever the fuck it's called.
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Oh, yeah.
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All the stuff PlayStation has done for their ecosystem.
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Yes.
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I love the quality of all those products. I again laugh at how inconvenient they all are. Where it's like, cool. I turn on my Rog and I put in my fucking nice AirPod Pros in the ROG sees them, boom. And I'm using that and I'm ready to go when I really want. Like when I was going on the plane to play the Razer Blade 16 and do it, I brought my kind of funny Xbox controller. It sunk through Bluetooth, no problem. And I grabbed the nice Xbox headset that is sunk Bluetooth, no problem. The fucking goddamn PlayStation Pulse adapters and the plugs and shit. Fuck that. No, if I'm. Dude, I want to go and I want it to fucking work.
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I'm such the reverse where whenever I want to like link my, I guess Bluetooth, link my headphones or like my Pulse Explorers to my Steam deck. Half the time I have, I'm having issues with that thing. I cannot find it in the list of things. It won't pop up. I'm like holding buttons. I'm doing all this.
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It's.
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So that's why I'm saying, like the
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PlayStation ones haven't worked for me for
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it, but like for when I'm sticking within the PlayStation ecosystem, I have the sick ass thing.
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Oh, they're great.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of like I have the thing plugged into the back of my PlayStation at work and so I walk in with my Pulse Explorers, turn on my PlayStation automatically. It already knows. Yeah, I'm like, this is. This is bliss for me.
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Exactly. Convenience.
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Yeah.
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Something I'd like to posit, Greg.
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Something you want to deposit.
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That's a word, right? It's like a positive, like a position I want to take or like a. Something I want to say to you or something. Sure, sure. Something I want to present.
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Positive. I don't know if I'm not familiar with that, but I mean.
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Word, right? Something I'd like to present to you, Greg.
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Okay, sure.
B
Because we talk about how this year, for me, I feel like has been like, I guess compared to previous years, a bit emptier as far as the PlayStation 1st party output and all that stuff. Right. And you talk about how for PlayStation, how does that hit?
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Yeah.
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Do they look at it and be like, oh, this is actually. This is working out for us? And like, does that. How does that affect them going forward? I think that. And this might sound like a copium take, but this is just me going off of how we got here, in my opinion. I think when we're three years down the line, four years down the line, we're gonna look back at this.
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Posit is a word. I'm sorry.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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Never heard. Never heard it.
B
I think we're gonna look back at this year and be like, damn, what the fuck happened? I think this year is very much a result of one pandemic. How much that up video game development and cancellations and all, and. And all that stuff. But beyond that, things like the multiplayer games getting canceled. Right. Like remember Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic remake that was being. How can I forget by Aspire.
A
Like, remember the Star wars game that Quantic Dreams making, but now they're making this multiplayer thing. We ain't never playing that.
B
I know we. We joke about dominoes all the time. In regards to Xbox, I think the PlayStation dominoes had just a weird amount of hiccups back to back to back to back that I think have just resulted in like, okay, now we just happen to have just two big games this year and a dud and Lost Soul side and Marathon getting.
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I think, yeah, it's the live service thing that really fucked them.
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Yeah.
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In terms of the biggest one, I think, I think they lost their way. There went Try to chase these trends that was done the fuck, you know, pull back, reverse course. But you have nothing to fill those gaps. Then where it's like in PlayStation's mind, right? We probably should be playing or have just played the giant Concord expansion that this giant thing they just did.
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Marathon should have came out last month or whatever.
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We should all still be in love with Last of Us Online.
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Last of Us Online.
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We should all still be gone. God of War, Ragnarok, the Halloween event. Right now we're all running around our clickers and uncharted costumes in God of
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War Online launches December. We're all excited for it. Like, I think there are just so many things that were supposed to happen and I think a lot of those are just being like. A lot of the studios that were working on those things are just having to figure out like, okay, well what is going to happen now? What does that look like? I'm sure PlayStation in replacing a lot of those things, especially things like studio. A studio like London Studios being shut down and stuff. Stuff. I'm sure that then translates into them having third party conversations as far as. All right, how do we take a third party game and throw money at them to make it exclusive?
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Right.
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I think a lot of those things are happening. Was that you or me?
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That was me. I was. But I was like, where did that come from? I'm not wearing. I thought it was my meta, so I'm not wearing them today. Yeah, it's my. It's. It's a notification. Everybody, Somebody's at my door. It'll be okay.
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Yeah, I think PlayStation's just in a down period right now. I think that's. I think they're gonna bounce back. Not in like a they're in trouble kind of way, but just in a. There was supposed to be more.
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I know if your PlayStation. I know I say this. And hundreds of jobs have been lost and reduced on. But if your PlayStation. I have. I hope you're sitting there going, I can't imagine we got. We got away with this. You know what I mean? Like, this is a. Oh, for sure. We fucking. This live service initiative fell flat on its face and has left us with fewer games to put out in this generation. And we're somehow still leader of the pack. You know, obviously Switch and the different races. Everybody's running.
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Dare you do that to Nintendo?
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We're still fucking. We're still doing well. And everybody looks at Xbox as the ones who really fucked up.
B
Yeah. Yeah. But I can't imagine. Yeah, PlayStation looked at this year. And they were like ghostly ot ain't destroying two. And that's pretty much it. Like that's the. That's the plan for this year. I feel like it's. I. I like those games. I especially love love love just rating 2. But I don't know. It's a weird year for me.
A
I always forget that you hated Ghost of Yoza.
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I fucking God.
A
You know, eight out of ten. What were you thinking?
B
And Ghost of Tsushima was a 10. I
A
got a few super chats in here to get in before we start getting on our way. Dean 149 says I'm still struggling to associate Marvel token with PS but as a fighting game and Marvel fan, that is a huge PlayStation announcement for me. I saw when we talked about it someone in chat be like it's also coming to PC. Of course.
B
Sure.
A
We're not. But we're talking about it better come to PC. What in this console landscape or whatever. Not that it matters because the Xbox Rog out there is going to fucking play it anyway.
B
Marvel talk on Fighting Souls I put in the same bucket as the helldivers 2. Just as far as like it's a third party thing that they're publishing that's also multiplayer. And so you got to put it on PlayStation and PC because you don't want to confine that audience to just one thing.
A
So here's a good use case scenario I think for you come for your way back. Way, way, way, way back when you were like, what do you. When review codes come in, what are you requesting? On the one I'm not struggling with, but I keep hemming and hawing about is Arc Raiders. Arc Raiders looks awesome. I really want to play Arc Raiders. We did the interview on gamescast. The boys have been streaming it. I've been watching it. I'm like, yes, hell yeah, I want to play this game. But I'm torn on if I should PlayStation it or if I should PC it because it is cross play. So it doesn't matter for the group. I get it with mm. But it's more the idea of like when I the razor blade 16 being connected to the TV is still a new thing to me. Like that's still not second nature. And so then it's like, well, how much arc would I actually play on the Rog? I feel like this has got mike support and I would have to talk to people to play. So that does. It doesn't seem like the actual thing.
B
Yeah.
A
But then it's like, well, I Need to use Discord. I'm sure to play with Andy and Mike. They're not fucking using PSN chat and I'm sure it wouldn't even work that way.
B
But PlayStation has Discord on it. Yeah, really easy to use.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, Yeah, I've never used it. Do I want to go learn that shit right now?
B
It's really easy, like legitimately is. Well, I guess the way I use it because I literally open Discord and then there's an option I think to right click it and then be like, connect with my PlayStation project.
A
Turo says, oh, it's Xbox. Play anywhere. We're done. They're done. Boom.
B
Oh dear.
A
Did not realize it was a play anywhere game. This is what I'm talking about, the convenience of it.
B
You turn your back on PlayStation. Well, I mean, again, like it's fucked up chat.
A
It is fucked up. I saw somebody, Somebody's like, I knew this is gonna be a shit on PlayStation podcast. They should have trusted my gun. It's gone now. But like, yeah, I mean, no, it's a convenience thing. And the idea of like I have that Xbox Series X at home begging for things to do if I can walk in and I don't want to connect the PC to have a gajillion frames and have it sound loud, no big deal. I don't know if that would be one that makes it sound loud.
B
I don't know.
A
But then I had the opposite thing where here at my desk. I'm so used to plugging in the PC that today I took the Xbox Series X. I'm like, why do I still have this? I walked it into the streaming room, put it back down.
B
I was gonna keep shaming you. And then I checked the trailer to see what I'm requesting it on and I brought requested on PC.
A
Yeah.
B
So you know what, nevermind. You're making the right decision, Greg.
A
Get that we can. JB says it's been quiet this year because the year is all about third party indie games. Expedition 33, 80s 2, Silksong, etc. Again, you're not wrong about that. Those are the games that are filling in all these gaps. And not all of them obviously, because Hades 2 still is non PlayStation, but you know what I mean in terms of all these missing things.
B
But I also think that like I don't view them as like, as gap fillers though, like I think for PlayStation, because they're the leader, I guess, in this regard in the Xbox versus PlayStation race. Yeah, like those are the Main events like those are like the PlayStation audience, I don't think really care whether it's a Ghost of the Otay or Eclair Obscure. Right. Like they just view those as dope ass games that are on the platform. At least if you're a regular person you view that as a dope ass game that's on the platform. So it's like a win is a
A
win is a win 100. And that's why again, PlayStation I think is the mainstream console.
B
Yeah.
A
It's got what you want and then it's got these amazing things you can get nowhere else. Yeah.
B
Do you think we're. Do you think we can get another 2019 when I say that or not? 2019, sorry, 2020. Maybe 2019 we get another 2020. Not as, not as, not in regards to the COVID 19 taking over everything and shutting this down. But in regards to that year we got Last of this, Part 2, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Ghost of Tsushima, Miles Morales, Demon Souls, Astro's Playroom, Little Big Planet, whatever that one was called.
A
Big Adventure.
B
Yeah, yeah, it was just, it was, it was a embarrassment of ridges. Do you think we can get back to that or even like the stretch from 2017 to 2019 where it's just back to back to back to back bangers?
A
Yes. No, I think you started bringing in like, you know, games that are third party there and third party partnerships. I think with that. Yes, I think, I think you look. But if I'm PlayStation, I'm looking to try to plan that year after what we've had here and how right now I would let it. I would like let sleeping dogs lie. We are doing. And make another sleeping dog.
B
Sleeping dog.
A
But we're doing so well right now with minimal output. Let's keep it this way. PlayStation 6. Let's have a, A multiple years in whatever this year that is for you. We have every quarter we have a gigantic PlayStation exclusive and then we have these partnerships that are also exclusive. You know what I mean?
B
Is it too early to start predicting the launch year of the PlayStation 6?
A
No, I heard, I've heard you guys doing it on the shows. Yeah.
B
Because I'm like, man, I'm trying to think of what that looks like. Right. And like the games that we've been waiting for or whatever. And I physically, forever, I guess predict that that's going to be that launch year because I think that'd be the perfect.
A
I want that so bad. I don't believe it. I refuse to believe it. I can't believe that that is too exciting of a thing.
B
Well, you think it's just too far out or you just think they're not gonna be able to line that up?
A
I think they can't. I don't think they line it up.
B
See, I look at that. I think. I'm trying to think the other studios, man, I miss on the show when PS Love you was every week where we just had to speculate about studios all the time because there was nothing.
A
I mean, Sony Bend. What are you fucking doing?
B
I mean, they're restarting whatever thing they were doing, right?
A
I still don't believe that. I worry about them. I worry about them all the time.
B
Blue Point, what are you doing? Yeah, they're restarting whatever thing, right? So it's like, are those gonna be around? I don't know if those are gonna make it for a PlayStation 6 launch. If we're talking about two years from
A
now, you think Intergalactics, PlayStation 5 or PlayStation 6?
B
I think it'll be across the top. I think it comes out. Let's say if PlayStation 6 comes out 2027. Because I don't think that's crazy to say.
A
Okay.
B
If that comes out 2027, I think that game. It's kind of like Last of Us Part two. I think it's the last hurrah.
A
Guess What? Intergalactic Remastered PlayStation 6.
B
And they were mastered three more times after that. What's up with the Horizon?
A
Where's this multiplayer game? Not the mmo. Fuck that. I don't care. But where is the goddamn. We're gonna go monster hunting together? And then. Yeah, where is the third install Horizon 300 deal of this goddamn cliffhanger ending that was so not satisfying for Horizon 2.
B
That should be a segment as we check. We check in on what the. On every PlayStation major franchise right now because Horizon, the multiplayer game has to be. Has to be in the next year and a half.
A
Yeah, I mean, I don't. I don't understand what's going on. And again, the game's just not ready. Maybe they're still cooking. Whatever, blah, blah, blah. Maybe they're just also trying to get some distance from the multiple failed multiplayer games. So they don't. That I. I feel like the well is poisoned on any. Any fucking PlayStation multiplayer game that PlayStation is making. Is it concord? Will we ever see it? Like marathon Fair games is in free fall. Like the. The fucking intro graphs for every One of the IGN GameSpot previews writes themselves of PlayStation has struggled in the multiplayer genre here these three things that have not gone the way they went, but here they are with one of their biggest franchises, and it is good or bad. You know what I mean?
B
But like, you know, I. I think. I think outside of the ones you mentioned, like, how many. How many still?
A
Big, bad Maluga. Call Holman Hurst right now.
B
What's going on over there, Herman?
A
Hey, Holman.
B
Holman. What's up?
A
It's like just to airball that name as hard as you could outside of
B
those that you mentioned because, like, they canceled. I feel like after those cancellations, how many of those do you think they even have in the. In the. Well, still, like, are there.
A
I think. I mean, I think there's so many we didn't hear know about that. Got canceled as well.
B
Well, oh, for sure.
A
So then, yeah, you're looking at Horizon
B
and it's like you're looking at Horizon and Project Gummy Bears, which I. I swear to God that exists. We're gonna get that announced at some point in the next two years.
A
Remember this, Matt. Natty says marathon will get delayed. Do you think marathon get delayed? To wit, like, I was gonna say it's delayed.
B
It's already delayed.
A
I'm saying a marathon will get canceled.
B
Yeah, I. I don't think it'll get canceled just because they announced the. The private tests.
A
Lucid dream, Holtzman Holm was demoted.
B
I. I think marathon, at least for now, I don't feel like it's all the way done with because they're doing the closed beta tests that are happening.
A
Hard to find that fun.
B
But we'll see when it. We'll see when. When we get around to next year if it still exists. There's that God of War 2D Metroidvania game.
A
There we go. That one I believe in more than any of the multiplayer stuff. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
And again, like that. Honestly, knowing so little about that, I feel like you're talking. You're talking about, like, you're looking at your studios being like, oh, shit, we need something. We need it fast. Like, we can do a God of War 2D Metroidvania pretty quick. Go for it. You know what I mean? Like, try to get something out there to have a game that is something you want that isn't a multiplayer, because
B
I think that's another one. And coming back to my question where I asked like, do you think we get another either year or stretch of years or it's like back to back to back to back? I think. I think yes, but it won't be by design. I Think it'll be by everything just got delayed, and now everything's just happening. Like, everything is happening to come out at the same time.
A
Yeah.
B
Because part of me wonders if that's how that happened last time, where they're like, yo, we have this backup of games that just like, ah, all right, cool. Put them all out. Because they're all. They're all lining up like this. I think even this year, that God of War 2D game was supposed to come out this year, I believe, according to.
A
To rumor mill. Yeah. Or at least announced, if you can trust him.
B
So, like, was that a situation of that getting delayed to next year marathon? Even though I know that's not like a banger banger thing like that is seemingly delayed to next year. We're looking at next year as being a pretty busy year for PlayStation. And I don't know if that's by design. I think that's just by happenstance.
A
And will it still be a busy year for PlayStation with fucking grand Theft Auto dropping in the middle of it? Keep in mind that, like, this is the. Like, you talk about, like, PlayStation being mainstream. That means people are gonna look at Grand Theft Auto and go, that is a PlayStation game. I'm playing that on PlayStation. And that's gonna.
B
So, like, what, change everything? Soros, we know is coming out March 20th.
A
Yeah, I think they got that.
B
They're trying to. February. Do you think Wolverine gets delayed?
A
No, I think you. You do that because we have a date on that, right? Yeah, yeah. You do that in the fall because Grand Theft Auto is May, right?
B
Yeah.
A
So you let you Grand Theft Auto just run away with the summer.
B
Yeah, Clear summer.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, I agree with that. And then, yeah, Marvel. Marvel Token's a weird one, because if you put that out, I feel like you got to put it out before. Whatchamacallit. Evo. Unless maybe. Maybe you put it out after EVO and just let people have a full year with that game before that comes back around. Because evo's in the summer.
A
But that's the same thing as, like, I sometimes wonder. And this is a crazy statement. Hold on. Let me make sure Andy's seeing my request for a different thumbnail. Not, are we giving Grand Theft Auto too much credit? It's going to be insane, and it's going to dominate and yet again. But, like, if they do the thing where they don't launch online for Grand Theft Auto at the same time, Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, Stay clear of May, obviously. Stay clear of June, I would think, as well. But like in July, there's going to be oxygen again for a fighting game to come out and be there. Because again, you're. Especially for a fighting game that's going to speak to such a specific audience of like, hey, we want to be here with the fighting game community. I think that's something you could launch alongside not day. And do not go head to head same day or anything.
B
Oh, sure, sure, sure. I. I hear that. I also think. I think this one is special though. Like, I think Marvel Token Fighting Souls has the opportunity to be mainstream in the way that like a Mortal Kombat is. And I say that entirely because of the Marvel license. Sure. And because Marvel.
A
I mean, look, look to Marvel Rivals, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Where it's like how many people were playing. I mean, I know that sounds stupid. Overwatch is very popular. Sure. But I mean, like, this is a hero shooter with heroes. You know, I think more people came. It's free. More people came to try that than would have jumped into an Overwatch.
B
I apologize. Yeah. But I think in regards to placement of it because of both GTA and evo, like, because EVO chat is. Is evo. Okay, here we go. No, that's evil France. June. Okay, Here we go. June 26th is when Evo 2026 is. I think that's still too. I think one that's. That's too close to gta. But then also it's too early in the year for if you were to drop Marvel vs. Marvel token in like in April or something. I think they want to give people more time to play that game and get ready for that.
A
Okay.
B
I think EVO is a major marketing beat for a game like this.
A
Sure.
B
Like, I think you have to frame the release. Release of this game kind of around Evo, especially because the PlayStation connection. So. Yeah, I think that's a fall game. I think Marvel Token comes out in the fall as well.
A
Okay.
B
And I think honestly that Wolverine could be a great one two punch if you have them like one month after the other.
A
Yeah, yeah. Ride that Marvel High.
B
Yeah.
A
Let's get some more super chats and then go to lunch. Sky says, I think I'm just gonna move into the PC gaming space instead. I just can't be bothered by all the console BS anymore. Lol. Crazy statement. But I understand what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
B
I mean, I'm not mad at it.
A
Okay. You know, I understand we're talking about, you know, s' mores and Oreo says Arc Raiders is cross saved. Get both PlayStation 5 and PC. Oh, it's cross save as well, apparently, according to S'. Mores. But it's Xbox play anywhere, so it's, like, already solved. I have a system running it again.
B
Yeah, we just get multiple cops, but it's.
A
But they're back to skate. We're back to skate. Where I have skate installed in every machine.
B
Is arc raiders a. Is that a premium? Like, do I have to buy arc Raiders?
A
You do. Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Check. 30. 40 it is.
B
40 bucks.
A
90.
B
Okay, never mind. I lost money.
A
Yeah. Manny boy. Manny Bagel boy Sanchez. Good to see you, Manny. I haven't read your name in a while. I'm in the same boat as Greg. My consoles are my sons now. Basically, I play on Rog Ally or my PC Tower. And now kids always take the big tv. We're not that far gone, thank God. You know, just Saturday and Sunday afternoons, we're down there on the big TV playing games. And Ben, obsessed with Spider man, obsessed with Astrobot. Ready to go there.
B
This is what I'm talking about when I say I go on Twitter and I don't. Whatever happened to the PlayStation Toxic console warriors?
A
You know what I mean? Oh, they're still there.
B
What happened? All y' all are weak.
A
I mean, how many? It's like, it's one of those things. How many?
B
Like, I don't like y', all, but like, I. But like, also. But, like, you know, where'd you go?
A
Well, I mean. I mean, when you see Xbox failing so badly, like, they're beating themselves up. They got bored when the Xbox influencers and podcasters started burning their stuff and say, like, the places kids are like, jesus, we can't go at you. We can't even go, hey, we feel bad for you. Sorry this is happening to you.
B
They're playing games.
A
Omega Buster says, what if I have to choose between that thousand dollar handheld and my Patreon sub, the horror Omega buster. We're just $10. Don't worry about it. You can afford $1,010. I'm not worried about that. Right.
B
People are saying they're still there. I just look in the wrong places.
A
Yeah, you flirt.
B
Where do I got to go to find.
A
That's the other two. You're always like, oh, way less toxic. No, it's more. I'm like, well, I'm not going to. To comments and message boards and all this.
B
I'm going to R slash, PlayStation right now.
A
You want to know? I had to unsubscribe from R Skate because they hate the game. So much.
B
Oh, really?
A
I'm like, I can't even read this anymore. I'll get out of here. And then Lucy dreams. The final super chat for now says Strive launched in June 2021 and was at EVO that year.
B
Man, they're all just posting Ghost of Yotel on.
A
They're happy. They're out there happy. I mean, PlayStation celebrating.
B
Dang. Well, good for y'.
A
All. Good for y'. All.
B
Good for y'.
A
All. This was a fun conversation.
B
This is a good time.
A
Yeah, yeah. There's no summation, really. I still love PlayStation. I'm still excited for a PlayStation hand, so I still love the exclusives, but I think, you know, it's the conversation we've had so many times on Greg Ways during passing with other things of, like, part. I feel like the ecosystem doesn't pull me in. And the ecosystem I'm including is the surrounding tissue of being online and being part of the PlayStation community. All stuff, you know what I mean? Like, the. It's not that I don't love trophies anymore. It's just that I'm so busy, both with the amount of fucking games to play every week, even when it's not review season, that it's so hard for me to be. I'm gonna platinum this. I'm gonna play this over and over again. It's then the idea of, like, with, you know, the business and being a dad, my gaming hours are still there, but they need, as I've said before, they need to be for the game I want to play, slash, need to play. I no longer have the. I've played four hours of the game I wanted to play. Now I'm going to do an hour of bullshit platinum trophies for fun. Like, it's just not the thing. And so, like, that's all part of the same equation.
B
Yeah.
A
And that's the convenience of everything else meeting me somewhere. But we'll continue to see how it evolves as time goes. Bless. I'm right there with you for now, everybody. That's been another episode of the Kind of Funny Games cast. Thanks for hanging out with us and talking to us. Remember, your programming day isn't over quite yet. Right after this, the stream is going to start and it's Jurassic World Evolution 3, the New Jurassic park game they're all playing. Andy sent me a reason or a screenshot that was the reason why he is not able to make the thumbnail as fast as I wanted. And you will not want to miss this stream, so catch it later if you're not watching live YouTube.com kindafunnygames if you are watching live, stay on Twitch or get ready for a new link here on YouTube.com kinda funnygames. But remember that this has been the Kinda Funny Gamescast. Each and every weekday we run you through the biggest topics in video games, whether they be reviews, previews or just discussions we need to have. We'd love you to support the team. Kindafunny.com you can go there get to patreon.com, youTube.com kinda funny games, apple Spotify Pick up your Kinda Funny membership. So of course you can keep the lights and mics on for another 10 years. For now, no matter what you're doing, we say to you Goodbye. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with a message for everyone paying Big Wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop with Mint. You can get premium wireless for just $15 a month. Of course, if you enjoy overpaying. No judgments. But that's weird. Okay, one judgment anyway. Give it a try@mintmobile.com Switch upfront payment
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Podcast: Kinda Funny Gamescast
Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Greg Miller (A), Blessing Adeoye Jr. (B)
This episode takes a deep dive into the current state of PlayStation as of late 2025. Hosts Greg Miller and Blessing Adeoye Jr. reflect on the company's shift in strategy, the relative quietness of the PlayStation brand, what defines "boring" in this context, and the evolving nature of the PlayStation ecosystem. The discussion is candid, critical (yet not hostile), and always grounded in personal gaming experiences and broader industry trends.
Timestamps: [07:11]–[13:42]
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Timestamps: [13:05]–[16:42]
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Timestamps: [16:32]–[19:29]
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Timestamps: [19:38]–[24:12], [48:16]–[58:05]
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Timestamps: [33:47]–[44:32]
Timestamps: [54:55]–[57:44]
Timestamps: [56:48]–[61:49]
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------------- |-------------------------------------------------| | 07:11 – 13:42 | What Makes PlayStation "Boring"? | | 13:05 – 16:42 | Slow & Steady: Quality v. Excitement | | 16:32 – 19:29 | Erosion of PlayStation Fandom | | 19:29 – 23:13 | Live Service Fallout, Future Speculation | | 24:13 – 32:04 | PC/Handheld/Portal Discussion | | 33:47 – 44:32 | Handheld Speculation, Accessory Talk | | 54:55 – 57:44 | Can PlayStation Ever Get Another 2020? | | 56:48 – 61:49 | 2026 & Beyond: What’s Next? | | 67:22 – 68:22 | Closing Reflections on PlayStation “Magic” |
This episode will bring you up to speed on the feelings many long-time PlayStation fans—and industry insiders—are wrestling with in 2025. The conversation is frank, nostalgic, and occasionally wistful, mixing hard analysis with personal anecdotes.
Whether you’re worried about PlayStation’s future or just want to understand the current conversation among the most plugged-in gaming voices, this is a can't-miss episode.
Quotes, timestamps, and key topics provided per host cues and direct transcript references for maximum clarity and accuracy.