Mario Tennis Fever Review - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: Mario Tennis Fever Review

Date: February 10, 2026
Panel: Mike "Snowbike Mike," Greg "GameOverGreggy" Miller, Andy Cortez, Bear Barrett

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast features an in-depth review of Mario Tennis Fever, the latest entry in Nintendo's Mario Tennis franchise and a Switch 2 exclusive. The hosts dive into gameplay mechanics, compare it to previous Mario Sports titles, debate its value, and reflect on the strengths and weaknesses of its modes. Throughout, the group highlights the strengths of the party multiplayer experience, but expresses sharp criticism of the single-player/adventure content and the game's high price point.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Warm-up & Mario Sports Nostalgia (05:01 – 07:41)

• The hosts share favorite Mario sports games:
  • Greg: Mario Golf (GameCube’s Toadstool Tour and the 3DS’s World Tour), sharing memories of competitive house matches and pre-work tea times at IGN.

    “…we just played the wheels off that back in the day in the Antler House... You'd hop on, you'd all go.”

  • Bear: Shouts out Mario Sluggers but ultimately picks N64’s Mario Tennis for nostalgia.
  • Andy: Loves the RPG elements of GBC’s Mario Tennis and Golf, where you rise through tennis/golf clubs and “fight bosses.”

    "Those are the ones that I feel like they have not been able to ever reach those highs... I just loved the RPG aspect of that, and I just want that back real badly." (07:14)

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Review Approach: “A Tale of Two (Very Different) Games” (09:20 – 12:14)

• Andy outlines the split nature of the game:
  • Versus/Tournament Mode: “Fun as hell,” dynamic, with special “fever rackets” adding unpredictable mayhem. “For that stuff, I would say Mario Tennis Fever is an 8 out of 10” (10:41).
  • Adventure Mode (Single Player): "Awful. It's boring, tedious, the main way to unlock a bunch of fun stuff, and it never did anything fun or cool or creative. It is busy work...” (11:08)
    • Laments the grind and ties to unlocking characters, comparing it to Smash Bros.’s unlock system.

      "Nintendo, just let me give you 20 bucks to give me the—I'm at that point..." (11:23)

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Deep Dive: Adventure Mode Critique (12:18 – 19:04)

• Greg and Andy agree: Adventure mode is a slog, mainly consisting of:
  • Repetitive, unfun minigames (e.g., “return the ball 25 or 35 times”).
  • Gated unlocks for rackets, characters, and colorways that force boring tasks.
  • Tedious overworld navigation and repeated tutorials.

    "For this game to hold you hostage, with some of the most monotonous, boring gameplay I've experienced—...it brings down the score of the game, period." — Greg (14:29)

• Bear: “…it's such an uninteresting main campaign adventure mode...part of justifying a $70 price point.” (53:46)

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Gameplay: Multiplayer and Core Mechanics Shine (22:18 – 41:56)

• Local Multiplayer is the Star: Unanimous agreement that the real joy comes from playing with friends in person.
  • Infectious office/dorm play, drop-in matches, competitive fun.

    "I love how this plays and feels. I want just more tournaments and stuff." — Greg (22:25) “We have had so much fun here in the office, playing there. I love it. Even Nick came over and played, which is outrageous.” — Greg (21:28)

• Number Crunch—Content Overview (32:37 – 33:19)
  • Characters: 38
  • Rackets: 30
  • Courts: 14 (though some lack creativity or are palette swaps)
• Fever Rackets: Special rackets spice up the game, offering over-the-top abilities (fireballs, mud puddles, bullet bills, etc.).
  • Generally well received, quirks/OP elements (Bullet Bill) noted:

    "The Bullet Bill racket... is completely unfun and I think broken..." — Greg (21:15) "I was ready to really hate the fever rackets… I honestly really dug [what] they add..." — Greg (35:59)

• Approachable but Lacks Depth:
  • No out-of-bounds punishment, making it “bowling with the rails up” (40:34).
  • Easy to pick up, tough to master (especially with advanced fever mechanics and double health bars for fun couch chaos).

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Online Play, Features, and Accessibility (49:04 – 51:43)

• Online Play: Not extensively tested, but early Switch 2 infrastructure seems improved (easy invites, smooth matches).
  • Concerns about long-term meta and balance.
  • Bear: “I really worry about what 2v2 online looks like for groups who are not like us...”
• Motion Controls: Disappointing, lackluster implementation.
  • Andy: “Didn’t feel as good as I had hoped… Like you could just flick it.” (51:43)
  • Greg: “Mario’s moving all by himself, I’m just swinging...” (52:46)
  • Not a compelling alternative to standard controls.
• Game Tips (27:22, 55:36): Players can remap controls for easier drop/lob shots—an option inside the game's settings.

  “If you just go to settings and then button mode, you could set… ZL and ZR to drop shot and lob.” — Andy (56:00)

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Value Proposition and Replayability (53:46 – End)

• Content vs. Price
  • General frustration with locking fun and variety behind a “slog” campaign rather than simply playing tennis matches—especially for a $70 release.
  • “If you have friends to play with, local multiplayer, yes, buy it. If you’re single player… no.” — Greg (59:33–60:10)
• Longevity Concerns
  • Online modes are likely to develop an unfun meta (overpowered rackets/characters killing variety, as in Aces).
  • Adventure and minigame replay value is low.
  • Bear: “Thinking about the longevity of this title... the more I think about the short-lived nature of Aces. I don’t know if this is an easy recommendation for most people for $70...” (60:56)
• Wish List/Roads Not Taken
  • Calls for a Smash Bros.-style style unlock and party/lobby system.
  • More creative courts, tournaments, varied challenges, and support for friend lobbies online.
  • Deep nostalgia for the RPG/character-driven modes of GBC days.
• Summative Scores
  • Greg: "Mario Tennis gameplay is a 9 if you have people to play with. As a single player, no way." (59:33)
  • Andy: "If you don't have friends to play with, I don't know if I could justify the $70 price tag." (60:16)
  • Bear: Hesitant, sees little reason for solo play but still planning to buy for the fun multiplayer.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Tale of two video games. The [versus] mode is an 8 out of 10...the adventure mode, I'm looking at like a three or a four." — Andy Cortez (10:41)
• "It is a tale of two things... the gameplay of Mario Tennis is a nine if you have people to play with IRL... single-player, no."
  — Greg Miller (59:33)
• “For this game to hold you hostage, with some of the most monotonous, boring gameplay I’ve experienced…adventure mode is a three. It is bad. Like, adventure mode is bad.” — Greg Miller (14:29)
• "The Bullet Bill racket... is completely unfun and I think broken..." — Greg Miller (21:15)
• "If they released a non-story, non-trial towers mode that was just... multiplayer, I'd buy that for $40 but don't spend the extra 70..." — Andy (41:56)
• "I don't know if this is an easy recommendation for most people for $70..." — Bear (61:00)

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Time-stamped Important Segments

• 05:01 – Panel shares favorite Mario sports games.
• 09:20 – Initial review impressions: “tale of two games.”
• 10:41 – Andy’s split scoring (8/10 for Vs., 3–4 for Adventure)
• 14:29 – Greg’s scathing take on adventure mode grind
• 21:15 – Multiplayer experience is a blast, but certain rackets are “broken”
• 32:37 – Characters, rackets, and court count breakdown
• 35:59 – Fever rackets: fun and not as disruptive as feared
• 41:56 – Accessibility and approachability for all skill levels
• 49:04 – Online play and Switch 2 networking
• 51:43 – Motion controls tested and disappoint
• 55:36 – In-game tip: easy remap button shortcuts
• 59:33–60:10 – Final verdict: worth it for friends/multiplayer, not for solo play

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Conclusion

Kinda Funny’s panel unanimously finds Mario Tennis Fever to succeed as a lighthearted party game with friends—local couch matches, easy controls, and a slew of characters and rackets. The core tennis gameplay is responsive, fun, and surprisingly well-balanced despite some OP racket issues. However, the adventure mode and unlock structure are boring, grindy, and needlessly frustrating, severely hurting the value for solo players, especially at $70.
Bottom Line:

• Buy it if: You regularly host local multiplayer or have a lively gaming household.
• Skip it if: You want a rewarding single-player campaign, deep online play, or strong unlock rewards.

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“Are you buying this or skipping this one?”

Let the team know in the comments on YouTube or Twitter—or, as Snowbike Mike says, “You know your boy's buying this. I don't care, I'm buying this game.” (62:03)

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Transcript

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[Andy Cortez]

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[Greg Miller]

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[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

If you want to get our shows ad free and our exclusive shows go to patreon.com kindafunny. What's up, everybody? And welcome back to another kind of funny games cast for Tuesday, February 10, 2026. I'm one of your show hosts, Snowbike.

[Greg Miller]

What the is going on with your hair?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I am joined by an incredible panel. You know, Greg, when you're working up a sweat and you're getting focused on the lines and the ball and the rackets and the the breath, you know, you just don't worry about your man.

[Greg Miller]

You did not have another option. Like I went too many examples. I went too many examples.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

You focus on the game the clay of Roland Garret.

[Bear Barrett]

You don't care about your looks.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Thank you. They're trying to win. We have the Nintendo red on, which means something special is going on. And I have an incredible threesome here to talk about Mario tennis fever, which I'm very excited to talk about. But before that, Barrett, you're on the set today. What's the big deal? Love the tea.

[Bear Barrett]

How are you feeling today, Mike? I'm feeling great. Thank you for the fog for my shirt. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Feeling great, Mike. Excited to talk about Mario tennis. Also, shout out day two for the USF strike. That's happening. Shout out to all of my San Francisco educators out there.

[Greg Miller]

All the teachers on the way there.

[Andy Cortez]

Good.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

So did I.

[Andy Cortez]

And the guy in front of me totally thought that I was like being a bitch yesterday. Like, he was looking at me like, give me a second. I was like.

[Bear Barrett]

It was really heartwarming to see. Yeah, like a lot of not just educators, but families and students show up for the strike for, for day one. See, my high school, like really show up as well. Especially when they all gathered near city hall. The ROTC drum line showed.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, wow.

[Bear Barrett]

They killed it. As they always do.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

That's great, Andy. We're talking about tennis. Hey, Mike, you know, when you play tennis, you play doubles and sometimes you need a partner.

[Bear Barrett]

Sometimes you need that partner.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Can I be your devil's partner?

[Bear Barrett]

Can. Can I be your doubles partner?

[Andy Cortez]

That's a tough decision. That's a tough choice. I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind you being maybe the coach. You know, like sometimes whenever there's like a coach in the stands.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yes, yes.

[Andy Cortez]

And they always like cut to the coach in the stands at like the US Open at Wimbledon.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I would make for a great Olympics coach. How much do I really have to put into this? Not much. They're already an Olympian. I'm just here right, to type them up. I'll hold the roads.

[Andy Cortez]

Exactly.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I'll carry your jacket. What do I really.

[Greg Miller]

I like the idea though. I don't think the challengers. This challengers fan casting where you're Zendaya or whatever. Mike, they're competing for your heart. You know what I mean?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I love that. I love that. Greg Miller, how are you?

[Greg Miller]

I'm great, Mike. How are you?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

We're talking about a Mario sports game. Are you excited?

[Greg Miller]

You know, I'm excited to be here.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I love that guys, because today this is your kind of funny games cast. We're talking all things Mario Tennis Fever. Of course, if you are watching live on YouTube and on Twitch, you could be part of the show by super chatting your thoughts and opinions and Questions over on YouTube.com kind of funny games. Don't forget we couldn't do this without you. Thank you to everyone that supports us over on Patreon and thank you to our Patreon producers for the month. Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm twining. Guys, let's get into it. Let's talk about topic of the show today. Your topic of the show is Mario Tennis Fever review with Andy Barrett and Greg. Get this. Nintendo sent more than one code

[Andy Cortez]

we

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

have a couple of jabronis talking about this video game. Want to give you some quick stats for you. By my research, this is the eighth Mario Tennis in the franchise by my Mario Tennis Mainline game. Don't get at me with the party pack games. Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Don't get at him.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Mario tennis ACEs had a 75 on Metacritic, 75 on Open Critic. Mario Tennis Fever moments before we went live. 77 on Metacritic, 75 on Open Critic. So kind of following the trend here. Greg. Before we begin, I always like to ask a fun icebreaker.

[Greg Miller]

I love an icebreaker.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Stole that from somebody's show. What's your favorite Mario sports game?

[Greg Miller]

Wow, Mike, great question. Genre? Mario Golf.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

I would go to toadstool tour, the GameCube one because we just played the wheels off that back in the day in the antler house where it was like you'd come home and somebody be playing. You'd hop on, you'd all go. You had the ghosts to chase. It was how close you get the pin. All that jazz. I will give in terms of a better game. Mario golf world tour 3ds version that like maybe it was just DS I can never keep it straight. But dominated IGN where we started coming to work early to do tea time where we would play, you know, for an hour or whatever before we actually got going.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

You're a big Mario Golf guy.

[Greg Miller]

I am.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Mario Golf in my mind has always been the three button select, the start. Have they ever done the stick like Tiger Woods?

[Greg Miller]

I don't think so.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I don't think they've ever done the stick right.

[Andy Cortez]

I don't think so.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know if you know this. The sports games from Nintendo don't really. They don't really innovate and experiment.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Bear corning. What's your favorite Mario sports game?

[Bear Barrett]

It's a great question. It's a daunting question. I. I feel like a lot of

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

games out there try to count a

[Bear Barrett]

lot of games and not a lot of great ones. I'll say, you know, just as a hot take. Not a one. Not a lot of ones that like really stick with you for. For years and years on end. I would say shout out just because I'm a baseball head. Mario. That was one that when I borrowed a friend's Wii, that was one that I played a lot was Mario Sluggers. But probably thinking about it in theme with this episode OG Mario Tennis.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Oh.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, wow.

[Bear Barrett]

I really loved N64 Mario Tennis.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Andy Cortez, you get to round us out. What is your favorite Mario sports game. It's.

[Andy Cortez]

It's a tie between Mario Tennis and Mario Golf on the Game Boy color. Those are the ones that I feel like they have not been able to ever reach those highs. And I know, like, again, nostalgia, it's a hell of a drug. But I always loved the RPG aspects of that. Of those games where each golf course or each tennis club had their own bosses. And you would fight the little mini bot.

[Greg Miller]

You.

[Andy Cortez]

You would fist fight them. No, you would, like, you would play against them and then play the boss of that thing. And they'd be like, man, dude, you're really overtaking this. And the NPCs be like, oh, you're the dude who beat Donkey Kong. That's crazy. And then you would, like, work your way up the ranks. And I just love the RPG aspect of that, and I just want that back real badly.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I like that. Well, guys, let's get in.

[Greg Miller]

There's leveling in this one.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Oh, okay. Little tease. Now you're level 42.

[Greg Miller]

What does that mean?

[Bear Barrett]

I see in chat people arguing. I would not personally consider cart A like Mario Sports.

[Greg Miller]

No, no, no. You know exactly what we're talking about. Don't be weird. Chat.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Let's jump in to our Mario Tennis Fever review. I'm gonna go down the line. I want to know what system you played it on, how long you played it.

[Greg Miller]

Audio listeners, he winked at the camera.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Quick thoughts and your review score. Bear, since you're closest to me, I'll start with you.

[Bear Barrett]

And because I'm closest to you and Andy's closest to me, I'm going to skip over to Andy because you and

[Greg Miller]

I, you and I are going to

[Bear Barrett]

be a bit more similar in, like, our hour count here and all this stuff, But I have zero.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, you have bullshit out there.

[Andy Cortez]

Living room.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I got to play a couple games.

[Bear Barrett]

Okay, okay. I'm a little bit more than you, but I don't. I don't feel like I've only played about, I would say, four hours.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Let me reset. Let's go to our Mario Tennis pro, the guy who took over the Mario Tennis Aces Online scene, Greg Miller. Now, I know you give me the look, but he did take over last time. Andy Cortez. Oh, what system did you play it on? How many hours did you play and what are your quick thoughts and review score?

[Andy Cortez]

Great questions, Mike. I played on the Nintendo Switch to the deuce.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Is this available on Nintendo Switch 1? Pop quiz. Okay, Switch to exclusive.

[Greg Miller]

I'm right, right? I didn't. I didn't really check that.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

That seems like something they would have asked when they asked for codes or whatever. But no, I'm pretty sure it switched to exclusive. I know that part.

[Andy Cortez]

I play this on Switch too. I've played for about six to seven hours.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I would say.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay, maybe around there. And my overall thoughts on Mario Tennis Fever. I got a fever and the only prescription is a good game. And I don't have that here.

[Greg Miller]

This is.

[Andy Cortez]

This is going to be a review of two different games.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Andy Cortez]

This is a tale of two video games.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Tale of the tape.

[Andy Cortez]

I love playing Versus mode. I love having fun with friends. I love the. The diversity and dynamic nature of these random special fever rackets that add. It's kind of like, you know, you play counter strike Mike and you're used to playing counter strike perfect analogs. You're counter striking Mario Tennis and then you play and then you hop into Valorant and it's like, holy. There's a bunch of like abilities in my face. What's happened? All these flashbangs, all these weird ultimates. And the Versus mode reminds me of like playing a normal tennis video game with all of those weird, funky, crazy abilities. They're. They're fun as hell. They can annoy you, but you can also use them to be annoying people. Yeah. And to use them to your advantage is really fun. I. I enjoy playing just the tournament mode or the Versus mode. I love just playing the matches. And I know we don't really do this, but like, for that stuff, I would say the Mario Tennis fever is an 8 out of 10.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Wow.

[Andy Cortez]

If we're just talking about just the plane of the video game, I love that mode of. Of just playing against another player or doubles or whatever the hell. The adventure mode. I don't. I mean I'm looking at like a three or four. The adventure mode in this game, which is their story mode.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

I think the single player story, I think it's awful. I think it's boring. It is tedious. It is primarily the main way to unlock a bunch of fun stuff in the video game. And it's just never at any point did anything fun or cool or creative. It is busy work and I. At every moment I'm playing it, I am thinking of Snowbike Mike when we were playing Smash Bros. And you were like, nintendo, just let me give you 20 bucks to give me the. I'm at that point where it's like, first off, this game, $70 rough. That is a crazy cost. I think this should be a 30 or $40 title anywhere else.

[Greg Miller]

49.9949.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, I. I don't know, man. I. Because I'm thinking of just the Versus aspect, and if it had a story mode or an adventure mode that was worth a damn.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Then I'd say absolutely. I could see it being worth that cost. But the method of unlocking things is just, you know, everything in the retro mode, I feel like, is the most extended tutorial possible. And it is just weird as hell and not very good or entertaining or compelling.

[Greg Miller]

You tag me in real quick.

[Andy Cortez]

There you go, Greg.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Well, I'm gonna.

[Andy Cortez]

Those are my thoughts.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah. Throw it to me. Yeah. Before I answer your questions, I want to jump off of this one. Okay. Because I'm right there with Andy, and I'll explain all that. But Calpy in the chat says people go to tennis game for an adventure mode. Question mark. Ah, Kelpie, I love this. I'm very excited to dive into this review.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I have a question on my review that says, what are you looking for from a good Mario sports game?

[Greg Miller]

So.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

And there's many things.

[Greg Miller]

Let's jump into what Andy's saying here. I would go one step further on Versus mode. Slash, playing Mario Tennis. And I mean, playing the act of a tennis game in Mario Tennis, whether we're using fever rackets, whether we're playing singles, whether we're playing doubles, whether we're playing vanilla, just rackets, nothing crazy, no obstructions. Right. I think the gameplay of Mario Tennis is a nine. I loved it that much. I have that much fun. I want this review will be peppered with stories of us out there. Tim Gettys is gone. We're finally living his dream of playing Switch multiplayer. All day long, some would say he

[Bear Barrett]

was holding us back.

[Greg Miller]

I. You know, I mean, Blessing, it was upset because he's on everything today. Wanted to be on this. Talk more about Mario Tennis. But if I hadn't already put the switch in every morning, he'd come to me like, what's up with that switch? Nobody.

[Andy Cortez]

Nobody fiending more when we're. We're leaving the office. Yesterday, Blessing has his backpack on, ready to leave for the day. And he goes, oh, can I get in one?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

And it's just.

[Greg Miller]

He's like, I got one in me. We. We went two and two. We split. We. Me and him, split him two and two. And then he's. He's like, I gotta go. But, you know, I didn't want to go.

[Andy Cortez]

Right, right, right, right.

[Greg Miller]

Like, that is how good playing Mario Tennis is period, point blank everything.

[Andy Cortez]

Talk about that.

[Greg Miller]

No, we did. We don't need to appear. Is a direct quote from Paris. Then, though, from adventure mode. Slash. Mix it up. Slash. Unlocking Mario Tennis fever is so close. So close to being. Even though Mike doesn't like it, what I do like about Smash, you want to unlock everybody just fucking play, play. It's like. And I'm gonna get it wrong because I've already unlocked them all but the characters like 25, 50. 25 matches. 50 matches. Whatever. You're unlocking characters in between those. You're unlocking rackets as you go. It's like, wow, this is so much fun. And then to the question of people play this for adventure mode. No, I do think they play it to unlock everything though.

[Bear Barrett]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

And so for this game to hold you hostage, which with some of the most monotonous, boring gameplay I've experienced. Kevin, I know you're running the trailer right here. You're killing it. Could you throw up the clip I put into slack of like, this is me yesterday. How long have I played on the switch to how long have I played? You know, the game clock from it Sundays more than 20 hours. I don't, you know, I don't know. That's us playing out there. That's me playing at home. I have one of the two codes to be in and be like, all right, cool. I want to unlock more people. There's three tiers of this mini game I got to go play. Here's the middle tier of me having to return 25 balls without the shine sending them back. It is so slow, it is so boring. And this will sound like I'm nitpicking, but imagine this mini game multiplied into other minigames 40 times in spread throughout adventure mode, spread throughout the trial towers, spread throughout. Mix it up. Like they have a whole bunch of boring ass monotonous minigames where I really feel like the developers just struggle to understand what is fun about their game. And sitting here returning a ball 25 times. And then of course when you. You have to do it on advanced, I think that's 35 times. Like, this ain't it, chief? Like, I don't want to do this and I. But I do want to unlock everything. So to Andy's point into the point over here of like, you play it for adventure mode. Not necessarily. But if you don't want that grayed out character the entire time. If you want every rack, not every racket, but you know, I'm playing fast and loose with unlockables because there's. You're unlocking rackets, courses, characters, right? And then colorways for everybody.

[Andy Cortez]

It's not for everybody.

[Greg Miller]

Not for everybody. But for a shy guy, you do have to do this. And that's when I. I honestly sit there and I was playing. It's like, it's. It brings down the score of the game, period. End of statement. Like, again, adventure mode. I am right there with Andy. It is a three. It is bad. Like, adventure mode is bad. It's ridiculous that you haven't figured this out. I play Mario tennis. To play Mario tennis. So don't put me into this adventure mode. I'm baby Mario. I have all these attributes that I'm leveling up or whatever, but it's just happening. Like, it's not like I'm. I'm like, oh, man, I need it for the next thing. Go play more stuff. I'm just doing the story and it's happening. And you are redoing the tutorial you've already done. You can read the tut. Okay, here's a lob. Here's a slice. Awesome. Got it. And then you go in here. It's like, all right, you ready to learn about a lob? Yeah, sure. Okay, well, okay, before you do that, I've made up a mini game that you have to run to on the map to go play, which is as brain dead as the thing you just you saw right there. You do that, you run back. Now do the lob to me three times. Now go, dot, tut, tuts. You know, it's like, oh, my God. And it's like, I was like, this is so bad. And like, an hour, 20 minutes in, I was like, well, at least I'm gonna finish this and it'll be done. Then it unlocks the next chapter. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, there's more to do here. And it is. I saw Jeff Grubb lamenting this on bs. That's Blue Sky Tim today. Of like, it is. Okay, start the thing. Run on this empty overworld minimap to this thing. All right, do the little challenge. Now run to the thing. It's just like, this sucks. Like, it sucks to do. And it's. It sucks that, like, you're this close. It should have just been, hey, play the game and unlock all the stuff. Do it this many times. Just like, smash. And one of the biggest misses I think they have is they have tournament on here, right? And you click into tournament, and you go in there, and you're like, okay, cool. There's singles or doubles. Great. Then there's the mushroom cup, the flower cup, the star cup. Right. Right out of Mario Kart. Yeah. Awesome. You jump in, it's a three round tournament. You beat the. You beat the wheels off these guys. Mike. So simple. And it's like, dude, I would have just shut. Send off adventure mode, throw it away, get it off the spaceship, out the airlock and give me a dozen tournaments of various difficulties. Here is normal rackets, nothing going on. Here is this racket here is. It's all fire. Here's that like put in all the wacky shit there where it's fine.

[Bear Barrett]

Unlock it like you unlock characters in Mario Kart.

[Greg Miller]

Exactly.

[Andy Cortez]

And add a little, you know, flourish here and there. I see some, some people in chat talking about that, you know. Well, that's, you know, it is a kids game. The problems we have are not. The problems we have are like they don't care about your age. No matter how old or young you are, you're going to think this shit sucks.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

This isn't. Then these things aren't like overly easy because they're. Because it's like it's a kids game. Guys. Why are you all compl. Complaining but it's like at being asked to sit there to return a ball 25 times, to just hit a button. It's just not fun. Or, or.

[Greg Miller]

And again you could speed that up. You could bring the number way down. You could do a bunch of stuff that they just don't do for it.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Is it also the problem of tennis itself as a sport? We talked about it with the recent top spin that came back and I said man, the mini games are just so boring. And it's very similar to this where it is just return the ball 35 times.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Is it just tennis as a sport and the mini games are difficult to create to make ultimate fun.

[Greg Miller]

It. My honest to God response to and think about it is I think it's just honestly figuring out how to justify a 70 price point. There needs to be hours on the clock. Right. My adventure mode ended at four hours. Right. That's. That's what I, I suffered through and got the characters that were tied to it. I'm like, okay, great. I'm out of that. And it's like I think that's there to beef up your game time and make give. They're trying to give you stuff to do and I think they just miss the point of just like you should give me tennis to play. I should be playing tennis and like, even outside of that, the trial towers is another interesting idea. Where it is, you know, you go into these three different trial towers. You have to go to the top. There's a big match at the end, and there's all these little challenges, but it'll be okay. Cool. You're playing this guy, and he's got whatever racket, and you don't have anything, so you've got to survive. Okay. You're on the ice court, so you're sliding. All right. Yeah, that's what I want. But then they will shove these fucking challenges in there. All right, cool. Here's this guy. Get it by him, you know, 30 times. Like, what are we doing? Like, why am I. Why am I doing this? In the things I would fuck up in the clip you showed Kevin or Kevin the show that's so slow in the advanced version of it, at least. While Luigi moves a bit more in the back of the. And I would find myself messing up and screwing it up because I would get distracted. I'm so bored.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Or I look at my phone like, oh, fucking got it. Or I go, what am I. Am I doing a lob? Or am I doing. It's like, there's two games here, and that's really where it is, where I would. So I'm not an online multiplayer person. We all know. I think that online tends to break. There tends to be a meta, and that's the end of it. Right. There's a bullet bill racking in this game that is completely unfun and I think broken to the point that Blessing said when he went to the New York event and demoed the game. They had a wheel where they were spinning it and Bless wanted to try it. They're like, actually, don't pick that one. It's not fun to play. It's like, I don't think they said not fun. I'm putting words.

[Andy Cortez]

It's just op.

[Greg Miller]

But they were like, it's op.

[Bear Barrett]

It's broken.

[Greg Miller]

So, like, I imagine when you play online, that will become the meta, and that's what's going on.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

That.

[Bear Barrett]

That mixed with Bowser Jr. And that's what killed Aces. And that's a reason that I wanted to be on this, was to talk about. Let me just.

[Greg Miller]

I want to pass the. My final point here is, like, as a multiplayer, you and your friends around, beers hanging out, maybe even online, too. Go for it, man. We have had so much fun here in the office, playing there. I love it. Even Nick came over and played, which is outrageous. But if as me, the traditional person, the single player person, The I put 100 hours into Mario Golf on DS like I was talking about earlier, I would stay away from this because it is that thing of like, you will finish the three tournaments on your first tries, Towers will take you a little bit and then adventure sucks and you won't play. It's like you got to have people to play with. I think in person. Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

It's disheartening to hear of like how bad the adventure mode is to. And how that's tied to unlocking characters. I forget how, like I don't remember the adventure mode from Aces. I remember there was one and I imagine there was some tie to unlocking characters throughout that, but I don't remember it being such a huge like pain point of like, oh my God, this is bringing everything down.

[Greg Miller]

Can I jump before I. Yeah, right there with it. I think that's what is so interesting about this one. I like the gameplay and the rackets here more than I liked Aces. So for me there's such a separation now of when it was adventure mode is probably a disappointment. It was a disappointment in Aces as well. I thought that whole game was forgettable, whereas I think they've gone up here in terms of oh wow. I love how this plays and feels. I want just more tournaments and stuff. Go.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah. With the gameplay. I fully agree with y' all of like the base Mario Tennis gameplay is just so fantastic and so fun and so addicting. And that's why, you know, you, you have you, me bless like every once in a while being like, what's going on? What's up with that switch? Right? And I think this serves as a fantastic party game to get friends together locally to play where you can have house rules like bullet bills are banned.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Bear Barrett]

And I think so much about how annoying and short lived the online asp of this was because, you know, you stole some valor, you gave away some valor. Because I was in the Mario Tennis Aces Online trenches.

[Andy Cortez]

This is about so long.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I'll give you any Val for so long.

[Andy Cortez]

Thank you, Mike. Give me all that valor Duck.

[Bear Barrett]

And I was, I was hanging on for dear life because, you know, like Andy and I are homebodies. Like we're not bringing people over to like play Mario Tennis all the time. So I was, you know, holding on to why Good.

[Andy Cortez]

You could though, you could, you could

[Greg Miller]

let him in, let him in, let Mike in.

[Bear Barrett]

I was holding on to Online for so long and it just after, like after only two weeks, it was you play as Bowser junior Rosalina who have like the most annoying opening serves and that was it. And it became so uninteresting and so boring. And even just after a couple of times playing locally it's like, okay, yeah, Bowser Jr. Is still very annoying with his opening serve. That mixed with the bullet bill racket which is completely broken and makes the, the game just kind of so unbalanced and weird which is such a sticking point with all the other tennis ability like fever rackets that I think are really fun and interesting and make it a bit more of a Smash Brothers type of vibe that makes it more of like that fun party game. But then again to tie it all into, you know, the point of having friends over and playing games like these is to have as many characters unlocked as possible to have that fun, you know, party vibe. And it really seems like the Nintendo sports team does not understand that. And you know, makes unlocking the journey of unlocking all these characters like a, a true slog, which I find so mind boggling.

[Greg Miller]

Heartbreaking because it's beautiful.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I think the courts are cool.

[Andy Cortez]

It looks awesome. Yeah. The art style is fantastic. It's. It's what you would want a modern Nintendo game to look like. And it runs great, super smooth, 60 frames per second. All that fun stuff. It's just, it's, it's missing so much in what it could, in how it could make these challenges more fun by either making things a lot shorter or hey, give us, you know, make these $70 worth it. Give me, you know, if I were to wave the magical game development wand, it'd be I take my, my created me in there and I am, and I am in this. Like, you know, I, of course I would love a full RPG mode, but I would also love to just take on, you know, you go to that one Bowser's castle themed area that you're playing the Koopalings or whatever and then Bowser's the final boss there and then you go to the water area and you're maybe fine. And it's just like the mini bosses are just. You're playing other people that are not the lead there. And it's a little cool tournament format and it let me play the video game in order to unlock things.

[Greg Miller]

It's so bizarre of. And I hate, you know, sitting here and designing a completely different game but talking about a game that I think would serve what they're doing of like. Yeah, so you go into this adventure mode, you know, you're Mario and you're everybody. And they all get turned into babies, as you've seen in the trailer. And then so you got to start powering Mario up by playing through the tutorials and playing these things. And at the end of him, this XP bar just fucking fills in and it gives you a new level. And it's like, at one point, I laughed. I'm level 46. I'm like, I don't know what this means. And, like, there's the speed in this, and it's like filling in over here. It's like, none of this matters.

[Andy Cortez]

I.

[Greg Miller]

It's all gated by the story. It's not like I can go anywhere and do whatever I want and, you know, whatever. So it's like, I'm playing this. I'm like, why the wouldn't you have done. Yeah, okay, cool. You start adventure mode and you make a me. You do whatever. You make your character. And then have the thing of like, all right, cool. You can only do this many matches, and this one will do your speed, and this will do your. Are you going to be a technical player? Because every. There's different kinds of players for the main thing. And so you choose him. And then when you're done with adventure mode, which would be dramatically shorter, you have this me that has those specific stats, and it's like, you can run this again to make your friends or whatever. It's like, that would make so much sense. Do that and have it be an hour and a half long. And like, okay, cool. That was a fun rewarding. And I can run it again and do it again to get things to put the characters on the screen alongside everybody. And it's like, no, you do this where you do that, and then adventure mode is done. It's like, who designed this?

[Andy Cortez]

Kevin, can you hit the song, please?

[Greg Miller]

Cause it's a gamescast game tip. If you need help, don't feel ashamed. It's a gamescast game tip. We're gonna help you out with the game,

[Andy Cortez]

everybody. Welcome to gamescast Game tip, where we help you, help you out with video games and give you tips for them. I would say for my gamescast game tip, for Mario Tennis Fever, I really up while I was playing the Witcher for 12 hours in one day by not letting Barrett play my switch so he could unlock things for me. So have, like, a friend or a little brother to just be like, here, have this. You play. You. You play. Unlock everything for me. But it's just, like, so boring, you know, But.

[Greg Miller]

And that's the thing about it. Though, is like, I, you know, I left it for a couple shows or whatever and I came back and I went home that night and played more. I was like, oh, you guys unlocked more guys. But you still get down to like, I mean, maybe a little brother or a little sister or whatever would go into adventure mode and go through all that shit for you. You still get to things where it's like, all right, cool. There's like one character is like, you got to do the for the four player co op ring challenge and an advanced one like, like, it probably wouldn't be that hard, but I also don't want to hey, guys, come over here. We got to play this thing. I don't not. And not only we got to play this thing. I don't want to play. We got to unlock it. Like, it's not like I can just jump to advanced mode. We got to do beginner intermediate and then get to advanced mode and this thing also.

[Andy Cortez]

Another complaint I have is I wish you could hit the ball out of bounds, I think.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know. When you want to talk about gameplay, we should talk about gameplay.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I want to get on with gameplay because I'm hearing a lot of what ifs and I want to hear about the goods because I know there's a lot of good in this game. And I also want to hear some of your critiques as well. Right after a word from our sponsors.

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[Andy Cortez]

Anybody have any extra. Any other games tips?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, no, no. This is a thing.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay. Can you play the Outro Kevin Games cast game?

[Greg Miller]

Chill. We're gonna help you out with the game.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

All right, team, you guys have brought up a lot. We've talked about your review scores. How you feeling so far? Let's dive in a little bit more. Greggy, where do you want to take this conversation again? I think there's good, there's bad. What do you want?

[Greg Miller]

I think. Well, I mean, I think we've beaten the bad, so I think it's time to talk about the good, right?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Real good.

[Greg Miller]

It is the idea that tennis is. It is so much fun to play. Like I said, you play with these characters. You go through you. Right? Are they speedy? Are they technical? You have all these different things. They can curve the ball better.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

How many characters? What can people look forward to? Because I know there's a bunch of them.

[Andy Cortez]

5.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

You got a lot of characters.

[Greg Miller]

Do the math, everybody. One, two, three, four, five, six. So, okay, so and then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Six times six. 36.

[Greg Miller]

And then you add two more, 38. You got 38 things.

[Bear Barrett]

Five by six or six by six?

[Andy Cortez]

Six by six.

[Greg Miller]

Six by six. Okay. And then you added two at the end.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

38 characters.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

How many rackets?

[Greg Miller]

Hold on, let me do that. One, two, three, four, five, six. One, two, three, Four, five.

[Andy Cortez]

30.

[Greg Miller]

30. 30, right.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

30.

[Andy Cortez]

One of them is a randomized one.

[Bear Barrett]

So, like, 29. Really?

[Greg Miller]

The chords, I thought were disappointing there. You got 14.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

14. That's a lot.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. But the top. The top three are all the same. Just different color.

[Andy Cortez]

Colors.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah, that's all right.

[Bear Barrett]

And not nearly as imaginative as I would have wanted them to be.

[Greg Miller]

Sure. Yeah. When you get down to the lower ones of, like, Wario pinball or whatever, that's fine. But even when I. Was it one of you guys, when I started up Wario pinball, and you're like, I thought there'd be, like, pinball. I was like, well, the mini game version of this, where there's, like, this aesthetic twist on it or whatever, you can go play.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I do the court stuff. I. When we watched the trailer, I was like, God dang. There's a lot of variety here. That's really exciting. I bet there will be even more. But it seems like the trailer kind of showed all of the variety for the courts.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah. It's odd with the Mario or the Wario pinball one, because when you play the mushroom one, that actually affects the gameplay. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

The white spot that, like.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah. When you go into the fun ones

[Greg Miller]

and the ice one, the ice one's icier one has a different bounce to it. Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, I think you can also edit those down. Right. I think you can go into those courts and then say, like, gimmick or whatever. I think. Yeah. I thought you could also. You could change, like, the ball.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. You can change from a slow ball, standard ball, or high ball. And. No, I mean, like, for that one. For the Academy court, mushroom, springy mushroom gives the erratic shots bounce count of them.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

So what.

[Andy Cortez]

What's the standard?

[Greg Miller]

That's the camera. How do you want the camera?

[Andy Cortez]

I thought you could say, I like the look of that court, but no, I like the way the game is a game.

[Greg Miller]

No, no, no. And, like, there's not that many gimmicks. Like, the bouncy one's a very specific one. The ice is a very specific one. Right. And then you have ball speed ratings and bounce ratings, so you can see it at a glance. So there's. There's that to it. But yeah, like, you'd have to go out of all that. You go into mix it up, which is like their party mode, right. And they have like special matches there where you have the piranha plants coming out the rings going on. The idea that what you're getting the RA rackets dropped and yada, yada, yada. But anyways. But the one thing I what I want to go and confident on again is the 9.0. I'm giving you the gameplay, right. Of just playing tennis and how responsive I think it feels, easy to wrap your head around, difficult to master. And then, yeah, the inclusion of the fever rackets, you know, Mario Kart, of course, always gets the love and hate for the blue shell. You know, here we are, this smash, you know, when we play in the office, items off. We don't want that bullshit. You want the pure experience. I was ready to really hate the fever rackets and not like them. I honestly really dug terms of what they add to gameplay. And so if you're watching right now the fever rackets or listening, I should say, you can't see. You go through, you know, you select the court like we were talking about. You select your character and then, yeah, you select your racket on what you want it to be. And they have various benefits, right. Where of course, there's stuff like, okay, cool, you got the fire racket. You're going to shoot out fireballs, right? Okay. I use the mud racket. You hit it down, you make a mud puddle. Little slow balls to get into. It'll, you know, knock down other people if they get into it. They can slip and slide and that kind of thing. Ghost turns you and your ball invisible, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But only if you fill in your fever meter. So when you're playing, you'll see a button on the player Huds, I guess, two different bars you're filling in. Once you get it, then you can hit X on your. When the ball's coming towards you, set off your fever shot with it, have it go that way. So it's not something you can spam all the time. It's just something that happens with kind of the exception of Bullet Bill.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Where if you hit it for your fever over there, he just rockets a Bullet Bill over there. And there's like you're aiming it so your opponents might not know where it's going to go. Most of the time, they can't hit it.

[Andy Cortez]

But it's not an automatic thing.

[Greg Miller]

No. Like, you're still.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Like for that first one, you're sending it over. No.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, I'm not even talking about Bill of Bill. I'm just being fever rackets as a whole. They. They are not this hit the button and win thing.

[Greg Miller]

Oh no, no.

[Bear Barrett]

They are defendable for the most part.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. No, for sure. Like it. You have so many great ones. You've seen the whirlwinds here. You've seen of course the cactus. Like when you send stuff over, it's totally possible that on the opponent can hit the ball before it bounces which sends it back over there. It's wherever the ball lands that first time just bounces. It'll set off the special effect.

[Bear Barrett]

So if you.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

If you have like a tornado one that. That you hit over to your opponent's side, but then they hit it first back to you and it drops on your side, it could backfire on you. And I do really love that implementation. There are some ones that I think are really broken. Like the Bullet Bill one. The problem with the Bullet Bill one, right. Is like there are some of the fever abilities where it's not just a one hit. There's almost like a bar that'll slowly go down, get a little arrow time.

[Greg Miller]

Your character.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah. You'll have an arrow next to your character and it'll be slowly this bar going down. And with bullet bills you're like really. It's really just like a powerful fast hit. But then it's not just like a one time thing. It just happens however many times you hit the ball while that bar is going on and the computer can get

[Greg Miller]

it back no problem. That's human beings I have not seen.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I'm sure as we all get deeper.

[Bear Barrett]

I was playing against Bless and I came back from a match I should have lost.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

And just sent over bullet bills like three, three or four plays in a row. And it was ridiculous. And there are some other abilities that have similar things like that where it's just. It's how many times you hit the ball over in a. In a certain meter fill. Right. But some of those are actually really fun. Like I really like the electric ball one where you send over and the amount of like electric balls that are over.

[Greg Miller]

The electrodes connect.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah, connect. And it makes like this electricity grid. Which I think is really fun. But yeah, honestly I. This was another aspect similar to y' all that I was expecting to dislike because I don't remember the gimmick of Aces but this felt really leaning into let's do something more like party mode type of flavor.

[Andy Cortez]

Aces had like a Perry type of thing where like. Yeah. If you sort of. If you hit back the ball in a certain way or with a certain timing, you could, like, do it extra powerful. I forget exactly what it was.

[Bear Barrett]

And that felt a lot of the times like an automatic. Like, I'm gonna get that point. Whereas here, like, for the most part, again, like, it does feel a bit more back and forth, a bit more fair. Were, you know, in my head, I was like, oh, I'm gonna want to turn this stuff off.

[Greg Miller]

But me too.

[Bear Barrett]

The more I play with y', all, I'm like, no, this is actually really fun. And again, why I really like the in person, you know, party mode type of vibe here.

[Greg Miller]

Just because it's the normal. I'm sorry.

[Bear Barrett]

Just because the. The last point that I was alluding to earlier is I. I think online for this is going to wear very thin very quickly, similar to Aces.

[Greg Miller]

And I think that's, you know, again, to put these rackets over. And the gameplay loop they've created is, yeah, I was ready to hate it. But it did such a great job of leveling that playing field where it really is. You can jump in with somebody who's played a lot at home, like I did, and you guys have only barely touched it and still be competitive. It's not like you're skating socks blown off. Right. And I think when you do get to that point, inevitably you will with your friends, if you're super into it. Of, like, cool. No fever rackets. We're just playing tennis. Yeah. But then we do go to a criticism I have, but I get why they did it. Since this is a party mode, they want it pick up and play. Back to Andy's point is you can't knock it out of bounds. Really. I saw once where the. I. I returned it and it went out of bounds. Like, I've never seen that and I haven't seen it since. Just once where it went and it might have even been like.

[Andy Cortez]

It's usually when your character is like, stumbling forward to try to reach really far.

[Greg Miller]

So, yeah, you know, you're in. Know if you're playing a lot of hot shots tennis like I used to, if you're playing the real tennis game, like, right, you can pull the stick too far, hit it too hard, and you're going to sail out of the lines. You're going to get a fault. It doesn't work that way. You know, you screwed it up. That doesn't happen here. For the most part. You're cranking that stick left, right up, down, everywhere to try to get Your shots and the game isn't penalizing you for going too far.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

It feels like bowling with the rail railings on, you know what I mean? It's just a very safety guided thing, which is nice.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I, I, I, I do wish though that there were, there was a way to, you know, to kind of, I use the word punish, but it's

[Greg Miller]

like, all right, if, if you're, if

[Andy Cortez]

you're going to try to be that aggressive, then it could still backfire because you're being overly aggressive. And now the ball is going, you know, you're hitting the ball too far right and you are hitting it out of bounds. So I do wish that that existed because I think that there is a really nice push and pull there and I'm kind of bummed out that it isn't here.

[Bear Barrett]

I think that's an aspect where you get into the mindset of Nintendo thinking about all ages type of, type of

[Greg Miller]

stuff, which I get and I think works for this. Again, I think that's the reason we were able to pop it in, play so much, have fun, keep coming and going with it. And I imagine, you know, even though reviews are done today, that it'll still be out there. I know Blessing is very, very excited to get his own copy. So I have a feeling we'll still be playing this on the TV for a couple weeks to come from.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah, and despite like all of the, the downsides y' all are saying like this is one like I'm gonna buy a copy when it comes out later this week and still like unlock everything. I'm a little hesitant hearing about the 70. I forgot that that was the, the price point of this, which is a, a bummer here. But yeah, there's just something real satisfying about that, that core gameplay that I,

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah, it's one of those that

[Andy Cortez]

if they released a non story, non trial towers mode that was just Titanfall, one of just like this is just a multiplayer game. This is just only the Versus mode. Yeah, I, you know, hey, buy that for 40 but don't spend the extra 70 to get the story mode and all the adventure mode or whatever because they're just kind of useless unfortunately. But yeah, the core mode is just so much fun to play and I love the randomness that it offers.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I not hopeful but I'd be interested to see if they're gonna do DLC or updates for it. I mean I know Nintendo traditionally not, but then they have and they do drop a few more tournaments there. You know, again this is like what's under serving the game is just not feeding the really great parts of it. And of course, I, you know, this is me going back and forth as somebody who loves playing it. It's like, well, if I was me, you know, back in high school and I picked this up and I had my party modes with my friends, that'd be great. But when I wanted to play at night, what would stop me from going down and saying, all right, I'm crank. I'm doing an exhibition match. I'm cranking it up to the most. The expert difficulty. There's one above that. Right. Like, go in there. And I just. I just play exhibition matches, which you can do short. You can do the whole. We're doing multiple sets and this is how, like the chance, if you just wanted to play, it's there. Which is, I think, kind of cumbersome to understand if you're not playing it where it's like you could just do that and you could have the playing the computer really hard and then fucking serving everything back to your fucking face. I hate it, but I like it. And I challenge, but it's like, I just hate that adventure mode is so bad and that all these mini games, I think, are for the most part for me, we're one and done. I popped in, I did the ring challenge. I did what I needed to on the single to unlock the guy. And it's like, cool. I. I'm never going to be like, yeah, I really go for that ring challenge right now. Right. Even I think maybe it was you, me, Mike that did Wario Pinball right where I was like, oh, let me show you what it looks like. Cool. Let's go back to the real tennis. You know what I mean? Like, the game should be built about. Around playing as much real tennis as possible.

[Andy Cortez]

I wish I was a bit more sorting options as well. When I was playing against Logan Plant from ign. And we would always hit randomize on characters just to kind of force us to play characters and not just be stuck on one or whatever. And it was nice having that randomization. But I wish that in the same

[Greg Miller]

way you could turn off items in Smash.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. Or select only pokeballs or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, I. I wish that you could, you know, hit randomize and then you select out of six only rackets that you want, you know, instead of randomizing the whole thing. Because there is no randomizer, but there is a racket that is a. Essentially a yellow item block racket that whenever you hit the fever button it's going to randomly give you an ability. But it would be cool to say, okay, I want to use a random thing, but exclude this and this and this and this or whatever.

[Greg Miller]

And we go back to kind of where I started with this, where it's like so infuriating that your core gameplay is this good in that you have the fucking blueprint in Smash Brothers. Yeah. How can you not be on the Mario tennis team and not look at Smash Brothers and go, let's fucking do that. Let's take all of that on. The options and the choices and the things. And even this, this way you play single player smash, which I never do, but I know people. It's like there's so much there.

[Bear Barrett]

It's still just leans into the core gameplay. Whereas it seems like a lot of sports games outside of Smash, like, like really want to recontextualize what you're seeing. Do, like do tennis, but different. It's like not like the. The Smash Brothers single player, at least an ultimate for. From what I remember. It's like, yeah, they're doing different things, but it's always leaning on that core gameplay that is so satisfying that, like, you don't really care. Like, yeah, there's barely a story or whatever, but it's just an excuse to keep playing this really solid core gameplay. And it. It's fascinating of what the mindset is here for this team to be like, no, let's do a lot of stuff that isn't busy work, just busy work.

[Andy Cortez]

There's a really neat feature, though, that I really enjoy in. In doubles matches. And it doesn't really matter a whole lot for singles, unfortunately, but in. In doubles, all of your characters have a health bar that you don't really know exists until you get hit by one of these hazards or one of these things on the ground, whether it's a fireball or a freeze thing or, yeah, body shot. And your health bar will go down if you keep on getting hit more and more and more. And eventually, you know, you'll get the sort of Smash bro sound effect almost whenever you do, like the, the final smash, the really loud sort of sound effect, very slow, and it does a little slow mo thing and your character gets knocked out for a certain amount of time. Meaning if you're playing doubles now, if I get knocked out, my partner has to be there solo for a bit without me, which is really cool and I love that sort of change to it. And, and I, I wish they did a bit more with that. However, I'm like Happy that's even a function in the game. I wasn't expecting it. I was thinking along the lines of how weird Smash can get. I would love to see just a random weird ass thing of like, what if we had 4v4 2 ball?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

You know, like crazy and silly. Like that would be really fun and novel to sort of add to the experience. But. But, you know, I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

I think you saw it somewhere in there. Like, you know, one of the trial towers, things will be okay. It's the. You're one of the babies with two other babies fighting a big guy. Like, they do the little mix up thing where I'm like, yes, this is cool. Why isn't there 19 tournaments and one tournament is all of this, you, you two babies versus everybody big and this, that and the other, blah, blah. It's like, instead, no, it's like, all right, return this ball. As you saw in this video. Send bullet bill back at the pirate ship. Like, I don't know, what am I doing?

[Bear Barrett]

There's a lot of gameplay variety that doesn't seem like it. It hits and it, it feels like an overcorrection from someone in the chat was pointing out. Sean in the chat says, yeah, I thought the main issue people had with Aces was that it was just tennis and maybe that was like an overcorrection of them trying to think of like, how can we beef this up, justified a $70 price point. But I think they overcorrected and I think Aces had much more problems than it just being tennis.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

But to give Nintendo credit because, you know, the, the lingering heartbreak that we always have in the back of our brains is Mario Strikers. What was the new one called? Mario Strikers. Something on the switch.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, Super Strikers or I forget what

[Bear Barrett]

it's called them obviously not having like the infrastructure to think about how are the, what are the different ways people are going to want to play this? And we, we were heartbroken very quickly of like, how limiting that was. And it seems like at least when it comes to the core gameplay, just wanting to play with your friends, like, they have thought about a lot of the variety and ways that you're going to want to play. Even with like the, the motion control version, which I, I know you were really hopeful for, and it was really cool to see that they have something like that. A question that I have for you, Andy, is like the online stuff with how you can match up with friends or randoms, like, how does that all feel? How does that all look? Does it feel built out in a bit more. Less like control or less limiting than the. The Strikers title.

[Greg Miller]

So.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, the striker side, I was like, just insanely limiting and surprising at launch. Like, that was like a big, like,

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

wait, that's tournament mode though.

[Andy Cortez]

We can't do this. And that was one of those. We were ready for an all day stream and we logged on. We're like, wait, no way, dude.

[Bear Barrett]

We can't all play on our own switches from home separately.

[Andy Cortez]

Unbelievable. In a game together.

[Bear Barrett]

That's insane.

[Andy Cortez]

That was crazy. Yeah. So. So I was unfortunately not able to do any matchmaking or anything because I just wasn't online. And so we were just playing. I was playing solo private matches. That seemed pretty easy with the sort of newer infrastructure that Switch 2 allows where you can invite people from your friends list without having to make a room code or do it within the game. So I was accepting invites from just the main kind of profile menu on your switch, when you go to the top left and click on your little dude's face, it does do a weird thing where it says like, hey, Logan, plan invited you to play a game. And then so I. I hit the hum the home button and it asked me, do you want to play the game? And I hit. Okay. And Tennis Aces was already. Or sorry, tennis fever was already open. And then it says, okay, we have to close the game first. I was like, okay. And it closes and then it reopens and then now you're ready for a game. So that's just kind of a weird thing. But I. Yeah, that. That was a kind of a weird functionality. But other than that, it's all seemed very straightforward and simple. I. I have not had a chance to mess around with a whole lot of the other systems because I was mainly getting invited to matches. Okay. And they all went really smoothly and well. And no connectivity issues? No, no, nothing.

[Bear Barrett]

Because I worry in the back of my head of like, what does 2v2 online look like? Is it easy enough to get three different friends or three other friends who are all from home playing all together? Yeah. That's one that I really worry about. Right. For groups who are not like us, who are doing remote stuff, how easy is it for them to get matches like that together?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

We bring up motion controls. Did either one of you test the motion controls? What did you think?

[Andy Cortez]

I did not play a full match with it. It was one where whenever I bust out the menu, the menu makes you play with two players. When I go to swing mode play using Joy Con 2 or Joy Con motion controls, So I go into swing mode and then it's like, all right, link up two controllers. Like, well, why let me just play a match with one. So I need two players to do this. Very. So then I connected two controllers and I had my two Joy Cons there. But, like, I don't.

[Bear Barrett]

Playing yourself.

[Andy Cortez]

I don't fully know the setup there, but it didn't feel as good as I had hoped. It felt. It didn't feel like when Mario Golf or. Or when. When we Golf added the Wii Motion plus thing. And it's like, oh, there's an extra axis of control here. This is getting a bit more in depth. This just felt like move it and it. Like you could just flick it. Yeah. Like how? You know, I. I don't think they're really focusing on this at all, which is unfortunate. I was hoping for a bit more of a. Of a. Of. Of an attempt right now. Greg's playing right now.

[Greg Miller]

Got his ass.

[Andy Cortez]

Got his ass. Who are you playing against?

[Greg Miller]

Computer?

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, just the computer.

[Bear Barrett]

Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

So. So I don't need to go and do that.

[Greg Miller]

Then you go into swing mode, but when you pop the. Do it again. Go into swing mode.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And then pop the Joy Cons off.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

And then tap one of the L's and there you go. You can just use blue.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay. Telling me to use a strap. I got the strap.

[Bear Barrett]

Always use protection.

[Greg Miller]

But yeah, Mario's moving all by himself. I'm just swinging.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, he's moving all by himself.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, yeah. There's no control on that.

[Andy Cortez]

Like a left move and then right does the swinging, you know?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Really let down by that, boys.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Very disappointing. Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

Because that.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

That.

[Greg Miller]

Get it, Mario.

[Andy Cortez]

When we see a game like this come out, our mind goes to like, oh, this is gonna be really fun with friends. Because I don't care how much you played we. Or. Or Mario Tennis, now we're playing motion controls, and it's a different game. We're all on the same level playing field. Yeah. And that's what I was hoping for. And now it just seems like, well, maybe that's not going to be the best way for all of us to.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

To play games, unfortunately.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Well, let's jump into some super chats. As we start to slow down the show, Crabby Patty writes in and says, my problem with the Switch Mario Sports titles is that the gameplay mechanics have been the best in the series with the least amount of content. These games need the campaign content to justify the price. We've talked a lot about that. Do we agree with just find the price off of extra content like campaign.

[Bear Barrett]

But that's where you run into the scenario here where it's such an uninteresting main campaign adventure mode that they're you. That is part of justifying a $70 price point, right?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

I don't know. It's a. It's a. It's a fine line that they got to find. And if they really want to succeed with these 70, I think they will succeed. They're Nintendo, but I don't if they want to keep the good graces of their. Their fans who are into the sports titles. I think if you really want to justify that $70, it's not just putting in content for content's sake. It is finding quality.

[Andy Cortez]

Because we've seen that hasn't worked yet.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah, exactly.

[Greg Miller]

But then he's back to it of like, if it keeps selling, then there's just no reason to feed us what we want of tournaments, whatever.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Of course.

[Greg Miller]

Can I say one thing? I'm sorry before we go, Kevin, can you please play the song again? Cause it's a game cast game tip. If you need help, don't feel ashamed. It's a Gamescast game change. Michael McDonald, we're gonna help you out with the game. Thank you. Welcome back to a gamescast games tip. This is me, Greg Miller, stealing Andy Corte Tez's move that I had never thought about in this game. Now, of course, you know me. I don't use back paddles. I don't use any of that. I want to be able to drop in anywhere and know the buttons as is not to go adjust my settings. But Andy had a really brilliant thing that I never thought of. In the game, you do drop shot shots and you do top spins right there. Everything else is one button press of like, I want to do a lot or I want to do, you know, a slice. Thank you so much. I'm like any of the normal shots that I can't remember now. But if you want to do a drop shop, you got to go ba. And if you want to do a big old lob, you go ab. Andy went and programmed them on his paddles on his pro controller.

[Andy Cortez]

That's not what I did. What you do, you can do it in the game.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Oh, no, no.

[Greg Miller]

I know. Yeah, in game. In game you can go in and be like, yeah, make the shoulder buttons there. And I thought you did the. On your.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't do backpack.

[Greg Miller]

You just did.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, in the game, I just said so.

[Greg Miller]

Even though you don't have the pro controller with you, you can put it to one button press, which I never did because I want to be great. Great. I want to go to that Nintendo SF store. My bib jeans, my hat, be like, oh, what's this game here? You want to play for $20?

[Andy Cortez]

Do it crazy lob.

[Greg Miller]

You know what I mean? How you dropping the ball?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Drop shot.

[Andy Cortez]

If you just go to settings and then button mode, you could set like, I think ZL was set to something else and ZR was set to something else, but I sent them to drop shot and lob.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you. Nice. Kevin, play the outro. We're gonna help you out with the game.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Keeping it going. The Juan writes in, says, mike, what's up with the hair?

[Bear Barrett]

I like the hair.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Thank you to Oscar.

[Greg Miller]

Still no answer. You know what I mean? He said when he was playing tennis and he's like, I only played.

[Bear Barrett]

He answered it very clearly at the

[Andy Cortez]

beginning of the show.

[Bear Barrett]

Okay.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Oscar writes in, says, nothing will ever beat the Game Boy and Game Boy advanced story modes. Andy, is that true?

[Andy Cortez]

Well, I didn't play the advanced ones. I played the Gameboy color. But those were. They were great. You had your own, you know, pick a character. You just make your little dude and then it's. It's straight up an rpg. Oh, you're the new kid here, huh? It was like some of my first RPG experiences. And then you work your way up and they're like, damn, this kid's actually kind of cracked. And now, and now it's like, oh, the final boss is Mario and you have to beat Mario and can you actually beat this dude? And he's just an Italian man.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Bander SN writes in and says, kirby Air Riders is going to be the best and worst thing for Nintendo. Puts all these spin offs to shame. Packed with unlocks, content and challenges. Play it.

[Andy Cortez]

No, I'm good.

[Bear Barrett]

The unlocks like satisfying to do though. In Kirby Air Riders only Roger knows.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

I guess I haven't bought it yet.

[Andy Cortez]

It's one day game of the year for Rogers.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Snake Eater writes in and says, this is for Andy and his amazing musical skills.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, thank you. That was Michael McDonald, actually.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, wow.

[Andy Cortez]

Commission cameo.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Evan writes in, says, let's assume you grind to unlock all players and rackets. Now is all your time moving forward with the game worth the price of entry?

[Bear Barrett]

My instinct says no.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, probably. I mean, what do you again, I think it comes back to that top level thing, right? Of like, because I think I would recommend this if you have friends to play with locally, and if you don't, then I wouldn't recommend it. So it's like, what are we talking about? For your personal interaction?

[Andy Cortez]

They have, like, their ranking mode, which I'm sure will be similar to Last Online. Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But again, I think you're gonna go online and it's gonna be this racket. Only play this character, you're fucked. And then it'll still be people who figure out the system. Like, this is my own personal offense to online gaming, where I'm like, well, eventually it's just gonna be hacked. I gotta be snaking. That's Mario Kart DS reference, but you know what I mean?

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Games.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

I don't like that my character moves on his own in. In control mode.

[Bear Barrett]

Oh, that's.

[Andy Cortez]

I want to move him with the left Joy Con, you know, Donnie Van

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Pelt writes in, says, this is a little late, but this is for Barrett being at the desk giving us a little more evil. Barrett, Hi.

[Andy Cortez]

I'm evil.

[Bear Barrett]

This year, in case you forgot,

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

We got a lot going on here. Well, now. Now we get off the game here on this one. Ambrosia Jam writes, I don't care about Mario Tennis unreveal. But the more I see about it, the more interesting it looks to me. Just be Death Stranding 2. And I'm kind of stoked for a palate cleanse before Resident Evil 9. There you go.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Bear Barrett]

And maybe play Mario Tennis 64.

[Greg Miller]

That or playing games. Cash games.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Let's go around the table one final time before we get out of here. Greg, what was your review score and anything?

[Greg Miller]

I never really gave a final one because I really am. It's a tale of two things where it's like, I think it's. Again, the gameplay of Mario Tennis is a nine. If you have people to play with irl. And I would even go as far as if you can play your friend from college online, of course, in a service I. I never tried online. The online times never added up for me. Then sure, go for it. It's more than the single play single player where I'm like, I just wouldn't recommend it for you. So, like, this is a really tough one, I feel. Because it is. I mean, like, I think it's just a recommendation. Yes or no? So multiplayer local with your friends? Yes. Yes. Single player by yourself? No.

[Bear Barrett]

Sounds like a good 6.5. Okay.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Any Cortez?

[Andy Cortez]

I mean, I would say that if you. You have to maybe hope that a super strong meta doesn't get developed and if you don't want to be stuck in those like you have to play this character with this racket in order to win or in order to be competitive. I think you can have fun with this game playing solo and doing like whatever the online ranked matches are just to see how, how high up you could get. And I really enjoyed the tournament, the tournaments that they had during Aces. But yeah, I would say if you much like a lot of games, if you don't have friends to play with when you do, the game is a lot more fun. And if you don't, I don't know if I could necessarily justify the 70 price tag.

[Bear Barrett]

Yeah, that's another like I'm in a weird spot now, Mikey, because I was thinking about picking this up and the more we talk about this, the more I think about the longevity of this title. Thinking about the where I would naturally go is single player online. Getting into those, you know, the, the sweaty tournaments and that meta and all this stuff. I, I think back to my time with Aces and how short lived that was even though I didn't want it to be right because of how annoying a lot of metas got and a lot of broken aspects of that gameplay was. And so yeah, I, I, I don't know if this is an easy recommendation for most people for, for $70 but granted that's you know, after playing four to five hours and thinking about, you know, the future of this game in

[Greg Miller]

particular, one thing to toss out there and I another thing I despite the great gameplay, sorry. No, you're fine. I tossed out there that we didn't talk about and I didn't even try. But it does on the main screen have game share right there ready to go again. Right. I love that idea that Nintendo supports that of like maybe you are into it and it is you and a Couple friends with one with a Switch 1 one with Switch Lite, one with the Switch 2 like you want to play at the airport or whatever. I really that, that is.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, well that is your review for Mario Tennis Fever. Let me know in the comments below. Are you interested in this? Are you buying this? Are you skipping this one? Let me know because you know your boy sound like Mike. I'm buying this. Okay. I don't I listen to all of that for an hour. I don't care. I'm buying this game.

[Bear Barrett]

How long until you hand it to Kevin ASX or Roger Roger and you say unlock this for me.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Here's what I want. Chad, just so you know, this is my pipe dream. This is hoping that it has. I hope that it has a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate lobby system for me and my friends where I can get about six to eight people in a lobby with the friend code and or invite system. And then I could have four people playing two doubles. And then I.

[Greg Miller]

This is Nintendo. No, you're not going to do that.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

That's what Mario. That's what super Stressful ultimate does.

[Greg Miller]

Have we not covered enough that this is not fucking it?

[Bear Barrett]

Not that team.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

Yeah, my pipe dream. I hope that it's there when at launch so I can play, but it probably won't. So let me know in the comments below. Are you buying this or not? Thank you all so much for watching today's Gamescast. We have a kind of funny podcast right after this. Nick, Joey, Roger and myself are going to sit down to talk about what Nick's life is like. We're going to have some fun with that one. And then after that, we have an awesome live stream celebrating Overwatch, dropping the two, adding five new players into the lobby. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. I can't wait. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more. Goodbye.

[Greg Miller]

Bye Bye.

[Mike (Snowbike Mike)]

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