Nintendo Switch 2 Review (So Far) - Kinda Funny Gamescast

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Detailed Summary of "Nintendo Switch 2 Review (So Far)" - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Release Date: June 13, 2025
Hosts: Tim Geddes, Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Blessing Adeoye Jr., and Andy Cortez

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Introduction

In this episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast, the hosts delve into a comprehensive review of the newly launched Nintendo Switch 2, marking one week since its release. The discussion centers around the console's hardware enhancements, software lineup, user experiences, and overall impressions, providing listeners with an in-depth analysis of whether the Switch 2 lives up to the high expectations set by its predecessor.

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Hardware Enhancements

Design and Build Quality

The hosts commend the Nintendo Switch 2 for maintaining the beloved form factor while introducing subtle improvements. Blessing Adeoye Jr. highlights:

"The Joy Cons are bigger and sturdier, eliminating the wiggling issues present in previous models." (28:03)

Battery Life Concerns

One of the primary cons discussed is the battery life. Tim Geddes shares his disappointment:

"My biggest con is battery life. I was shocked and appalled when it died by the time I landed." (28:15)

Similarly, Blessing Adeoye Jr. echoes these sentiments:

"The battery life is an annoyance more than anything, especially for a brand new piece of tech." (28:24)

Controller Feedback

The introduction of the Pro Controller 2 receives rave reviews. Blessing Adeoye Jr. praises its design:

"The Pro Controller 2 is a dream controller. I love the back buttons and the feel of the sticks." (32:19)

However, a drawback is noted regarding the inability to turn on the console using the Pro Controller:

"Why can't I turn on the console with a Pro Controller? That's a frustration." (37:37)

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Software Lineup and Performance

Launch Titles

The Switch 2 launched with Mario Kart World as its flagship title. Greg Miller shares his experience:

"Mario Kart World is great, but the open-world aspect feels empty compared to previous launches." (10:34)

While Tim Geddes expresses excitement over titles like Link's Awakening and Deltarune, he also points out the lack of substantial single-player games to sustain long-term engagement.

Enhanced Features and Backward Compatibility

The console boasts significant enhancements in graphics and performance:

"Seeing Link's Awakening run in 4K with HDR is a huge win for modernizing classic titles." (43:27)

Third-Party Support

The hosts discuss the limited third-party support at launch, with Blessing Adeoye Jr. stating:

"I was hoping for more third-party titles like Cyberpunk, but it's not meeting my expectations yet." (19:42)

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Pros and Cons

Pros:

• Improved Hardware: Enhanced Joy Cons, better build quality, and the introduction of Pro Controller 2.
• Display Enhancements: 4K and HDR support provide sharper visuals.
• Backward Compatibility: Enhanced performance of classic titles adds value.

Cons:

• Battery Life: Significant concerns about the console's longevity on a single charge.
• Lack of Big Launch Titles: The absence of substantial single-player games limits initial engagement.
• OLED Screen Absence: Critics like Greg Miller express dissatisfaction over the lack of an OLED option.
• Dock Issues: Reports of screen scratches when docking, as mentioned by Barrett Courtney.

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Personal Experiences and Host Perspectives

Greg Miller:

Greg approaches the Switch 2 with cautious optimism. While he appreciates the hardware improvements, he feels the software lineup falls short of creating an "all-in" experience:

"I'm not as incentivized to hop all the way into the new experience as I was with the original Switch." (10:34)

Tim Geddes:

Tim exudes enthusiasm, particularly highlighting the console's family-friendly appeal and portability. His personal anecdotes emphasize the joy of sharing gaming experiences with his son:

"Playing Mario Kart with my son every day is magical. It's something we can enjoy together." (24:57)

Blessing Adeoye Jr.:

Blessing provides a balanced critique, acknowledging the hardware improvements while voicing concerns over software and specific features like the lack of an OLED screen:

"I'm really enjoying Mario Kart, but the battery life and missing OLED are significant drawbacks." (29:52)

Barrett Courtney:

Barrett adds to the conversation by discussing third-party support and the overall breadth of the software lineup, expressing a desire for more diverse titles:

"The software feels a bit underwhelming at launch. I'm left wanting more variety." (45:41)

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Future Expectations and Closing Remarks

The hosts agree that the true measure of the Switch 2's success will unfold over the next six months as more titles are released and updates are implemented. They plan to revisit their review at the end of the year to assess the console's performance and software additions more comprehensively.

Greg Miller concludes with:

"I'm excited to see how this evolves and what new games will come out to truly validate the Switch 2's place in the gaming ecosystem." (64:52)

Tim Geddes emphasizes the importance of family and personal enjoyment in his experience:

"Watching my son enjoy the Switch 2 is fulfilling. It's not just about the hardware or games; it's about the moments we share." (65:14)

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Conclusion

The Nintendo Switch 2 presents notable hardware advancements, particularly in display quality and controller design. However, initial software offerings and battery life issues temper the excitement among the hosts. As the console matures with upcoming titles and potential updates, the Kinda Funny Gamescast team remains cautiously optimistic, eagerly anticipating a more robust software ecosystem that can fully showcase the Switch 2's capabilities.

Listeners can look forward to a follow-up review in six months to gauge the long-term success and satisfaction with the Nintendo Switch 2.

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Note: All quotes are attributed to the respective speakers with approximate timestamps for reference.

Transcript

[Greg Miller]

What is Dadication?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The thing that drives me every day.

[Greg Miller]

As a dad is Dariona. We call him Dae Date for short.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making.

[Greg Miller]

Sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We did a good job.

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[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

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[Tim Geddes]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Thursday, June 12, 2025. Hard to believe in one month from now you'll have all seen Superman the movie. It's the new one, not the old. You can watch the old one because we're doing a review. It doesn't matter. I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller, alongside Forbes 30 under 30, aka New York Game Awards. Nominated aka Haircut Poppy Blessing, Eddie Oye.

[Greg Miller]

Jr. Good day, Greg.

[Tim Geddes]

Looks great.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Tim Geddes]

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[Greg Miller]

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[Tim Geddes]

But it's higher than normal.

[Greg Miller]

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[Tim Geddes]

Of course, rounding out the trio, it's Forbes 30 under 30, aka the second best baby blues in San Francisco. Aka the biggest Nintendo fan I know, Tim Geddes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Let Tim host.

[Tim Geddes]

How are you, Tim?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm doing great. Yeah, I have a weird little headache going on, but it's okay. Dehydration room, probably.

[Greg Miller]

Coffee?

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Greg Miller]

You're not going to have a stomach.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Stomach ache?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, a little stomach.

[Tim Geddes]

Stomach aches. If you didn't know everybody, this is the Kinda Funny gamescast. Each and every weekday we come to you to talk about the biggest topics in video games. Whether they be reviews, previews, or just things we need to talk about. We cover them on YouTube.com kindafunnygames, podcast services around the globe, and of course, live on Twitch tv kindafunnygames. If you're watching live on Twitch TV kindafunnygames, hey, why not give us your Amazon prime subscription? Remember, if you have Amazon prime, you have Twitch prime and it gives you a free 30 day subscription to the Twitch channel of your choice. So give it to us. And hey, if you're one of the people listening to the podcast that way, way, way, way, way, way later, why not use your Amazon prime to do it? Even though you don't use Twitch? It's easy, it's cool, it's fun. Of course you could also be part of this show live on YouTube. YouTube.com kinda funnygames as we go. Super chat me your review so far of the Nintendo Switch 2. Because of course that is what we are getting into today. If you like Kinda Funny and all the content we create, remember we're an 11 person small business all about live talk shows and we need your support as a Kinda funny member. Pick up your membership over on patreon.com kindafunny YouTube.com kindafunnygames Apple and Spotify to get all of our shows ad free. That's more than 20 shows a week, more than 80amonth and of course get your daily dose of me, Greg Miller in a solo one man podcast that I do for 15 to 20 minutes called Greg Way each and every weekday Housekeeping for you. You already got kind of funny games daily today. What happened on it? Bless.

[Greg Miller]

It was me and Roger talking all about that Silent Hill 2 or Silent Hill 1 remake that just got announced.

[Tim Geddes]

Did you throw anyone under the bus?

[Greg Miller]

Oh, I never would. Why would I do that?

[Barrett Courtney]

Did you learn that David Grohl was in fact not a part of Red Hot Chili Peppers?

[Greg Miller]

You know he was on Foo Fighters. Crazy.

[Tim Geddes]

You know what band he was in before then?

[Greg Miller]

Yes, I know because we talked about it that other.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I know.

[Greg Miller]

You'Re right.

[Tim Geddes]

Listen, you say hello to me in the morning. We have conversations. Is it so hard to be like, hey, you didn't put Greg way into the dock. Why you gotta strike three me on the goddamn show?

[Greg Miller]

Because I, I'm very, I'm very like locked in. When I'm making the dock, I go from top to bottom, right? Once I do housekeeping, I'm not gonna make the rest of the dock and then double back to housekeeping to make sure Greg did the. Did the thing. I just gotta trust that you did the thing.

[Tim Geddes]

Just gotta help me out now.

[Greg Miller]

You're just wasting time for me. You know, you're just adding another step for me to then check. All right, let's double check housekeeping real quick.

[Tim Geddes]

That's fair enough. That's fair.

[Greg Miller]

So now you have something coming to you. I don't know what it is. We got something.

[Tim Geddes]

I deserve it. Whatever it's going to be. Of course, this is the Gamescast. And then after this, it is my dream come true. We begin Superman in review by reviewing and ranking Superman, the movie from 1978. I am very excited to begin this journey with everyone as we build up to James Gunn's new Superman film. After that is gonna Be the stream of Mario Kart world with the community. No, I believe I thought we're doing more Dune based on the meeting yesterday. Unless something. Where'd you get this information?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It must be old. I wasn't at the meeting. I was just looking at the schedule. That's what it says.

[Tim Geddes]

Even the schedule should have it updated.

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Tim Geddes]

Really? Yeah. Which ones failed? The calendar or the thing?

[Greg Miller]

The. The Google calendar.

[Tim Geddes]

Gotcha.

[Greg Miller]

Has Mario Kart on it.

[Tim Geddes]

Gotcha. That makes sense. Probably didn't get up to. Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Dune Awakening.

[Tim Geddes]

With the Dune Awakening, everybody liked it so much. The boys are jumping back into Dune Awakening tomorrow.

[Greg Miller]

People are liking it.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. Oh, it looks really cool. They had a really fun time with that. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I gotta get into it then.

[Tim Geddes]

If you're a kind of funny member. Today's Greg Way is unconfirmed because I don't know 100% how many real business things Tim has to do. But I have a bunch of Nintendo Switch questions I need to ask him and I want him to come join me and answer them.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I like that.

[Tim Geddes]

So maybe after in review we could do it while they stream somewhere in there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

I don't need a lot of time from you basically though for a second Switch to do I need to make Ben an account or do I want to go through pros and cons of him just using another game over?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm going to be honest, I actually don't know the answer with the switch 2.

[Tim Geddes]

Well, I got a lot of questions about it, so don't worry. I think you'll see the I have these following pain points and I think you'll be able to guide me on what I need to do. Okay, thank you to our Patreon producers, Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney Twining. Today we're brought to you by xreal and Factor producer but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's begin the show with what is and forever will be topic of the show. Believe it or not, ladies, gentlemen and enbs, we are one week removed. Only one week removed from the launch of the Nintendo Switch 2. Can you believe it, Timothy?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I really can't. It's. It's crazy to have it to who have been playing it every single day to be thinking about it all the time. To know that for the next at least three years I'm going to be playing on this device. Then there'll probably be an upgrade. But to be in the Switch 2 world, it feels good.

[Tim Geddes]

Of course it came out on June 5, 2025. Of course, just this yesterday, right? We had the official information from Nintendo. Nintendo Switch 2 sets record selling over 3.5 million units globally in the first four days, becoming the fastest selling Nintendo game system ever.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Good news. Good news, man.

[Tim Geddes]

It is good news.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The faster we get these things in houses, the more they're going to full commit to making the games, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like we're already getting there, but it's a good sign that it's selling this well this, this quickly.

[Tim Geddes]

100%, of course. But is it a good sign if we like it or don't like it? That's what this review is going to be all about. Timothy, you say you've played it every day?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Geddes]

Are you playing a lot of hours every day? Have you been like, all in on the Nintendo Switch?

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, pretty much any free moment I have, I'm playing Switch 2, mainly Mario Kart, which I don't want to talk too much about today because we're doing a full review of that tomorrow. But yeah, bouncing around through everything, whether it's the GameCube games, the Switch 1 games being enhanced. Like, there's just a, a lot of tinkering I've been doing. Obviously, getting a new console also means the, the setup process for the theater and the setup process for the, the handheld mode and like, just getting everything right, testing all the accessories, having fun, seeing what quirks you end up finding that you didn't think would be there. Of course, there's millions of those, but that's part of the fun blessing.

[Tim Geddes]

What is your week with the Nintendo Switch to been like?

[Greg Miller]

It's been fine. I've had kind of a boring Nintendo launch so far. And I mean that in like, the best way I could say boring in the sense of, like, we've, we've talked about what a Nintendo launch means, what new Nintendo hardware looks like traditionally, and how Nintendo usually takes big swings. It can be. When I get my hands on the Wii for the first time, it's like, oh, this is a brand new experience. When I.

[Tim Geddes]

When you get your hands relearned to play games.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. When you get your hands on the Switch one, it's like, whoa, like they made this brand new thing. Right. Switch 2 was designed to be a boring jump, in my opinion, this time around, as far as, all right, you're getting better fidelity, everything you loved better. Everything you loved better, right? It feels sleeker. And so in that sense, like, I've been having a good time with it, but it's. I. It doesn't have that same if new console, new console stink that I've had with new consoles recently before, right? Like, when I think back to the Xbox One PS5 or think back to the Switch one, where I'm like, I can't get my hands off this thing for this for Switch 2, honestly, like, I'll pick it up to play Mario Kart, and, like, usually I'll be with my friends or with whoever, right? I'm playing Mario Kart. And then once I put it down, I'm like, all right, cool. Now let's lock back in on playing Death Stranding 2. Or let's, you know, lock in on playing, like, Elden Ring Night Rain with Andy and Mike or doing something else. Like, I'm not as a attached to the hip or attached by the hip to this thing as much as I would have thought before it was coming out.

[Tim Geddes]

Do you think that's a symptom of how much you enjoyed switch1? Follow my line of thinking on this. My week with the Switch 2 has been fantastic. I've played it a ton. Ben is playing it a ton. There's so much to unpack here in terms of how much fun I'm having with this device and how much I. I would say I love this device, right? Which isn't shocking because everybody loves Switch 1, but I loved Switch 1 and then really fell off of Switch 1, where even when I was loving the original Switch, it was, oh, I'm going on a flight. I'm playing this, or I'm doing this, or the Zelda or it's Mario, right? It was these big games that were tent poles. So I never. I don't feel like I ever lived in the Switch ecosystem kind of thing. Right? And then I would say, for sure, yeah. Since. Since I stopped playing Animal Crossing, the amount of time I put on my Switch one or my OLED Switch is just infinitesimal. I couldn't even tell you what it was or what I would have committed to or what I would have put serious hours into. So for me, jumping into Switch 2 and going to Link's Awakening, playing cart with y' all, playing cart with Ben being like, oh, man, I can't wait. Pokemon would have been it. I can't wait to get back and finish Pokemon now that it runs well. Like, I. It's a new system to me in the way of, obviously it's new and it's. It feels great and there's all these little things to it, but it's also. Man, oh, man, I forgot how much I liked Switch. I just haven't had a reason to play Switch as much.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I think it's two things. I think, one, it is the fact that I was. I. The games that I wanted to play on Switch 1, I played on Switch 1. And so even though Pokemon Scarlet runs better, Tears of the Kingdom runs and looks better. I've already played those, Like, I've already had those, like, those experiences. And it's neat to boot up Tears the Kingdom and be like, oh, man, this runs so much better. But I'm not as incentivized to, like, hop all the way into that experience.

[Tim Geddes]

New. New to play.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Like, I'm looking for. For new games, and Mario Kart World's been that. But that brings me to my second thing, which is I. I think I've come back around to this launch lineup just not being as exciting as, like, maybe I perceived it being going in because I thought Mario Kart World was going to, like, really carry it as far as, like, me being all in on it. And I love Mario Kart World, but the open world, pretty empty, right? I've done all the Grand Prix, and I'm playing it when I'm playing with friends. But for me, Mario Kart, if you're not going to get. If you're going to have that open world part of it, and it's not going to be as filled to the brim with the things to do, and if it's going to be way more empty, to put it bluntly, right? Like, I. Then my experience turns into, okay, well, this is the thing I'm going to play with friends after I've done all the Grand Prix, which I have, and.

[Tim Geddes]

Humble brag.

[Greg Miller]

Humble brag, which I'm sure most people at this point probably have done all the Grand Prix. But, like, you know, I. That can't really carry my experience within a launch. Like, I booted up right before the show just to, like, you know, see what's on my home screen. And it booted right up to soul caliber 2. And I was like, oh, yeah. Like, my time with the Switch 2 has very much been fucking around in different things. And, like, going through the Soul Caliber 2, like, campaign mode with Link and like, booting into Deltarune and then being like, I'll get around to this later, right? Like, I don't have that. I think I needed, like, one more bigger first party thing. Like, I wish Donkey Kong Bonanza was at launch. I understand why it's not because they don't want that to be cannibalized by Mario Kart. But that would have done so much more for me.

[Tim Geddes]

I've seen that tenor of discussion out there in the general BS world. That's Blue Sky, Tim, where people are saying, like, they needed a single player game. I think, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I understand that. And that's why it's funny that for me it's Links Awakening where I'm like, I'm crushing Links Awakening. I can't wait to get to Echoes. I need to get back to Pokemon. Like, again. The fact, the reason, the fact that I fasted on Switch 1 because I never reviewed Switch games. So I was, I was always reviewing something on PlayStation or Xbox or PC, right? And then I'll get to that Switch game later. And I never did because the conversation would pass me by that I have a whole library of things I'm excited to get to. But tim, you are Mr. Nintendo around here. You've been playing every day. What have you been filling your hours with?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, it's been a lot of Mario Kart because, like, to me, this is actually a great launch. Like, I, of course. Is it comparable to the Switch 1 launch? Absolutely not. That had one of the best games of all time. This has a good Mario Kart. So I can't complain because it has a good Mario Kart and I'm spending dozens, literally of hours in this game. So yeah, I'm having a great time, having a lot of fun playing by myself. But then also the magic of the launch. Like, I haven't had a launch experience as fun as the last week or last couple days of all of us playing together, maybe ever. You know, like, it was awesome to have that. And to me, like, the Switch 2 just delivered what I needed it to, which is 4K and HDR and just it runs games well. I already love these games. Like Bless was saying, like, it's hard for me because I am not fully ready to jump back into starting another breath of the wild save. Or like, I. I've had these experiences, so there's not much for me to like really like dive into besides Mario Kart, which I'm not complaining about at all because I'm having a great time with it. I do wish that the open world had more substantial things to do. And I guess even my bigger problem with it is like a clearer path to completion. Like a more Ubisoft style checklist type thing I feel is lacking from that for. From the way I play these games. But going into the Switch two and what My expectations have been it's very similar to the last couple console launches, period. Like, I think that this is exactly like the PS5 launch or the Xbox series launch, where really what we get from them, oh, it just runs the things better, you know. But to me the biggest thing is the Switch is now getting Nintendo games to a status they have to be, whereas the PS5 is just adding a bunch of dual sense, which I love. I think I'm the biggest dualsense fan that there is. But the haptics and all that stuff, it's a nice to have as opposed to a, I think bare necessity of the game fucking runs in 4K visuals because that's what TVs are nowadays. So for Nintendo to have that jump up, I'm thrilled with that and that's kind of all that I need. But like, I think back to the. For everyone that's like, oh, it's just a Switch Pro. I'm like, first off, that's not a complaint. And second of, I'm like, I think about the Xbox, I'm like, it literally the Xbox series X, like going from the 1 to the X, it's like, yeah, it's faster and has all these like little features and stuff. But it's not like I was playing a game that like was changing my life or anything. It was more the promise of, hey, this generation is going to be awesome. And the generation for Xbox and PlayStation have been awesome. And looking at what we already have as a roadmap for Switch to I'm like, yo, I'm. I'm sitting pretty. Like, I can't wait for the next couple months of these games to, to come out, whether they're new like Donkey Kong or just more content for Kirby.

[Greg Miller]

Would you say that about like the PlayStation 5 library as well at launch as far as like not really having something else pulling, pulling you in as much?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Well, PS5 had Astros playroom, which spoke very loudly to me and I absolutely loved that and I platinumed it and Miles Morales, baby. Which, but I mean, you know, had Bugsnax, which is not. Not for me, but again had Miles Morales, right.

[Greg Miller]

For me I'm like, there's a. I think it's the. Maybe it was the mix of third party support and first party support because like for me there's a long list of yeah, like Spider Man, Miles Morales, Valhalla for you, Astra's Playroom, the Path list. For me, the little Big Planet game that I always forget. Sackboy's Big Adventure. For me, right, like there was a long list of games that I was just looking like all in on. And for me here so far with the Switch, There are like three games that interest me and they are Mario Kart, Deltarune and Soul Calibur 2. Right. Like I feel like that's a tough thing. And even with Xbox, right? Like you at least had the third party stuff to really bolster that as far as like Valhalla. And I think those Yakuza, like a dragon. Was that Xbox One?

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, you're right.

[Greg Miller]

Xbox Series X launch title as well.

[Tim Geddes]

Where here.

[Greg Miller]

Like I think hardware wise, I totally agree with you as far as what the jump looked like from PS4 to PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X and now switch one to switch to. But software wise, it's not as big of a complaint because I know we're going to get there like very quickly. But they day one, month one. I feel like as far as what we've had before, it's like way it's not meeting that standard.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, I just don't know that I agree. And again, that just comes down to like looking at the PS5 launch. It's like a lot of games I don't care about. And having said that, I think Miles Morales is a better game than Mario Kart World. So like, I'm not saying that the Switch 2 had a better launch than PS5. I just don't think that this is. I. I can't complain about this. Like I am. Not only do I have Mario Kart, but you bringing up Soul Caliber, Soul Caliber and Wind Waker and specifically for me, F0. Like, yeah, these are old games, but they're running great in a format that is fun to play them on and I like that a lot. Welcome tour. Not great. I really wish it was better. Like I wanted those mini games to actually be fun. And in my experience with it, it has not been fun. So yeah, it was free.

[Tim Geddes]

Would you.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This is not my. No, the price is not the. The price is a problem for sure for that, but the price is not the game's problem. The game has way bigger problems than that. I think it's sterile. It's just not fun. It's very anti Nintendo. Welcome Tour. Like it's very. Did you play it at all?

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's incredibly just kind of like reading like an instruction manual, but like not like a fun video game manual. It feels like like a tech manual. Like I don't know. It's not, it's not what I wanted from that game at all. From, from a packing experience, even if it's not a packing thing. Like comparing it to Astral's Playroom is like insane, you know? But yeah, like the. To me it is the enhancements to the old games. The Switch 2 editions of Breath of the Wild and Tears, the Kingdom. Like in my personal experience, the jumping into those and seeing the way that they run and play, that's as fun to me as Pathless, which I thought was cool, but I didn't love that game.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, for me, those, like, I'm, I'm. I think I'm more thinking of like the breadth of like different experiences. I also forgot to mention Demon Souls as well, where it felt like there's something for every type of player, whether you're a hardcore for Demon Souls or like a casual player for Sackboy, or like somebody who's an indie person looking at Bugsnax or the Pathless. I wish we could have seen like more partnerships or like, more like, hey, let's work with either indie developers or third party developers to get some new games here at launch. That could have like been fun for the, for the first month. But also like, again, I say all this even knowing how much that doesn't matter for the Switch 2 because the reason why you do that is to sell the hardware with the software. And Nintendo's already got that in the bag. We're talking about 3.5 million units that sold already of the Switch 2. Right. Like, really all they need is Mario Kart.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, 100%. I think that's what's interesting about it, where this all comes down to what I think your expectations are for a Nintendo console. Right. And what I expect out of a Nintendo console is great Nintendo games. So even with Cyberpunk there and this, that, and granted, old games, but if they had matched it with more current games that were coming day and day to Switch and PC or Xbox or PlayStation, I would still go play them on the big boy consoles. Cause I wouldn't want to sacrifice fidelity for it, if that makes sense. Right. And so then you get into this conversation of how Nintendo seems, and it seems that all the rumors have been true, of they really kept the dev units to themselves. Right. And now that it's fully out there, now they're going out to get those Switch things. But it's why we watch SGF and you're not seeing Switch 2 logos on everything. Right. Because whatever. Not that it fully matters if it's.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, I think it does. I'm very concerned about that. Like, I really I was hoping where the launch does disappoint me is the third party side going forward. Like, having Cyberpunk is awesome, but I really wish that we would get that by this point. After Summer Game Fest, we knew what July, August, September looked like from a third party perspective. And unfortunately I feel like we do know what it looks like and it doesn't exist. Like, it really does feel like the dev kits situation was not where I wanted it to be at all. Yeah, I'm not too concerned because like you said, I play Nintendo for Nintendo games. I think that third party games are going to dominate on the system for many people. But for people that have the option to have Nintendo Switch to and a PS5 or whatever, like, I'm not going to play games on Nintendo Switch to. I'm not going to choose the Switch 2 version over a PS5. 90% of the time. There will be examples of games that my. Oh, the portability wins out for me. But I think there are a lot of people out there that do have multiple consoles. Not everybody, of course, but I do think that for somebody that does, it's like, I'm cool having Mario Kart World for now and then Donkey Kong is going to come and I feel like that'll be at the right time. Like, I don't know that I'm playing Mario Kart as much as I am for the entire month leading up to Donkey Kong, but I've already put In, I think, 25 hours into it and like, cool. Like, I'm happy that I don't have a giant single player game to play at that same exact time. Like, I feel like I would much rather them space this stuff out and have monthly Nintendo experiences. Because that's the dream for me is one big game a month that I can enjoy for sure.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. So I did at the top, but very top level of it, right? But yeah, my first week with the Switch has been magical. I think it couldn't have launched at a better time. Which is goofy to say with sgf, right? Because again, my Switch, the relationship I've had with it is. It is my portable system, right? So to get this, play all this Mario Kart with y' all here in the studio, have these great moments, go home, you know, be able to play it in bed or whatever, and then get on a plane and go, right. It was so nice to be like, all right, cool, I'm going on the plane and I still have this hang up that Mario Kart is a party game for me. Like, I don't want to go home and grind, and the Grand Prix thing doesn't excite me. I want to go and I want to play that with my friends. That's why online is great, obviously. That's why playing locally, so great. But again, the fact that I held off on all these Nintendo games, being able to finally boot Link's Awakening and have it run and have it be gorgeous, like, I had such a magical time. I can't use that word enough. Right? And I know that's what Nintendo always strives for. And as a Sega kid, I don't have that nostalgia, except for starting at N64. And so to be playing Link's Awakening in bed and, like, have that orchestral music playing behind it and be doing. This is a conversation I had on the stream the morning after I started it with Barrett, right. Of be playing a Zelda game. That is what Zelda is to me. Breath of the Wild and Tears are fantastic. I'm not at all taking shots at them. I. Those games are magnificent. I've said that every time I've played them. But that doesn't feel like Zelda to me in a very weird way of what I think of when I think of Ocarina of Time. Right. And so to play Links Awakening have this feel so much more like that. So much more like a Majora's mask. So much like, you know, Link to the Past, which I loved on our trip to Australia many a year ago. Right. I've just been so happy with it to the point of, like, being at sgf, but being excited to go to the airport and go to the lounge and sit there and play it and enjoy it and have it. And even to get back now, I find myself, you know, we're back here, and we're very openly reviewing Death Stranding to a week from Monday is that review. Uh, and whether it's good, bad or otherwise, I'm playing as much as I can to make sure I'm ready for review. Right. But it is. There's part of me that's like, oh, man, I can't. I wish. I kind of wish I could go do a dungeon. I got five dungeons in. I'm ready to keep going on that. Not because of good or bad, because of death stranding, just because. What a fun little game to be playing. And to sit there and be like, all right, cool. We're a month from dk, which is exciting. Question marks around an Animal Crossing update. We might get echoes. I got to finally finish Pokemon because I'm there and I'M like, I'm excited for my future, let alone what I've done with it. Then I think there's something truly magical again in my life happening right now. To go from me, Greg Miller, the guy who's played games for 40 some years, to then, Ben, like my son, right? And like, how excited he was when I showed him the switch. We've played the audio on games daily, right?

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, yeah, brother. Like, immediately seeing it, like, to show him the handheld and not. I was like, he's not going to. He's going to think it's just the switch. For him to go, oh, different colors. Like, for him to understand this is different than the switch that just came to plug it in. Have him go. And then now, like, you know, video games are for the weekend is what we usually say. You know what I mean? We can play video games. And usually in an afternoon, after we've done a whole bunch of stuff, he gets maybe an hour, hour and a half before we make dinner. It has been every morning, can I play Mario Kart? And like, it's a special occasion now. It's just, he's playing Mario Kart every day. And to watch him not only play Mario Kart, but as it is to be apparent, watch him learn from the day before both the game and how to do it. Like, our biggest thing with screen time, video games, whatever, is like the first time he ever played a game when we were playing Hot Wheels, right? Getting him off of it was a meltdown, right? He just doesn't understand, like, it's ending, it's doing this. And I've done timers, I've done all these different things. You know, you sign post that, all right? You can play up until this point and the next. Wines. We're going to make breakfast, then we're going to do this. Like, today was the day of, like, cool, I'm making breakfast. When I bring it down, we're gonna turn it off and we're not gonna melt down. And we came down and he's like, no, not yet. And I was like, what are you trying to do? And he explained what he wanted to do. Like, he wanted to go over there and get whatever the question mark block was or the lunch bag. And I was like, okay, go do it. And he did it and he put it down. And I was like, ben, big boy move there. I'm like, mom. And I get it. If there's something you're doing in a game and you want to keep playing, let's talk about that. And figure that out rather than you just want to dick around nonstop, you know what I mean?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, that's awesome.

[Tim Geddes]

These parts of it. And then let alone just the mind boggling nature of him, a boy who can't read but understanding he can get to on Free Roam, he can get to the map, he can pick his thing. He knows how to change characters, he knows how to change, like in all these things we've added in and wanting to play and doing the stuff. And then watching him play today and he is full on playing, right? Like I when I first gave it to him, he obviously played a bunch of eight, but new courses, new everything. Like I left it on smart steering for like the first 10 minutes. I was like, do you want me to try something? And I took it off. He's like, oh, this. He literally was like, oh, this is way better. Like, okay, thank you. You know what I mean? Like how he is. And today he was grinding on the rails by himself. Like, this is fucking crazy. But it's like Jen and I were in the kitchen finally able to have an adult conversation because this kid was distracted by Mario. And I said to her, like, you know, very goofily, but like, very honestly, I'm just like, I'm so glad he's growing up a Nintendo kid. Like, will this stick? Will he, you know, is he going to like video games forever? I don't fucking know. But I love that he's getting this version of Nintendo and this version of Cart and a thing that is this intuitive, right, that he can do. Because I think we've done, you know, on the Switch 1 and Nintendo Switch online. Like I've taken him through the NES stuff and the Game Boy stuff and it's like even there of like, oh, well, you got to hit the plus button to do you know what I mean? Like, there's enough roadblocks to that that I feel like he's not old enough to get into. But the fact that this three and a half year old's out there grinding rails and switching characters, being stoked when he unlocks a new outfit, it's like, this is really fucking cool. And let alone the fact that I can sit there and play with him again, huge problem that I was well aware of. And that's where we'll go with the Greg way eventually. But like, you know, the fact that Free Roam isn't local multiplayer sucks. I do the thing where I hop in and I, you know, start the online wireless room and just leave us in there. But then no P blocks no, whatever. But Ben, I'm the one who wants to be making progress. Ben's just excited to be driving. Like, yeah, I've had a wonderful, magical time with the Switch 2 so far.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. You bring in all that stuff up, it's like, that's where, you know, again, me as such a fan of Nintendo and of the Switch specifically, like, the biggest fans are also the biggest critics. There's so much I hate about this system. And like, there's so many things I'm like, why can't they just fucking get this right? And some of them are not. I understand why. Or there's a bunch of things around it, but it doesn't make it good for me. I don't like that it's not oled. Like, I have now a weekend come around. The screen's great. It's not oled. And that does bother me a lot. And I play my Steam Deck oled. I'm like, God damn. God damn, this thing is beautiful. And sure, that's a me problem, but it's a problem that I have. And every single time I'm playing handheld, I'm always like, God damn, this could be so much better.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And that sucks for a 450 brand new piece of tech that feels like a step back from where Nintendo was, where last week I was playing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on my Switch OLED and it looked so damn good. So that stuff really bothers me and that's going to bother me for the next couple years. That sucks. The battery life. I can't believe how bad it is.

[Greg Miller]

That's.

[Tim Geddes]

That, that. I mean, I don't. Yeah, we're going to. We're having a great conversation. I love this. Yeah. My biggest con is battery life. Like, I was shocked and appalled instead of surprised and delighted of being like at the airport, playing in the lounge and then open, I'm like, I'm at 50%.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

I'm like, fuck, bust out the thing so it doesn't die. And it still died by the time I landed.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But that's the thing is like that, that's the cost of tech. Like when you have a 1080p screen and you have HDR and variable refresh rate and stuff.

[Tim Geddes]

So to jump to, you know, expectations and realities, I was like bitching about it in my head. I was like doing the multiple save files when I was landing. Cause I was like, well, if I, if it dies, I don't want it to corrupt on a save. So I'm like, I'll keep making more. And I was. When it finally died and I was like, damn, that sucks. Blah blah. And I was like, well, you know, like Jen borrowed my battery pack in la. The battery pack I pack on every flight for my Rog Ally. Cause I know my Rog and my Steam Deck are gonna eat up a battery. And D, you know, it's just that I had the expectation of Nintendo as a step down in tech and power. So like clearly the Switch 2 is gonna have a battery as good as the Switch OLED, as good as the Switch 1.5 or whatever it was. When they changed the battery and like went to 10 hours. Like I wasn't just paying. I hadn't paid attention to battery life. Cause I was like, oh clearly it'll be fine. I did not expect it to be on par with what I'm getting out of a Rog.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, so far I'm really not liking it. It's been an issue for me just at home and it's an annoyance more than anything. Like it hasn't been an actual detrimental problem. But again, for a brand new piece of tech that I want to just be purely excited about, there's a lot of little things adding up that I'm just like, God, not quite Nintendo, not quite.

[Greg Miller]

I'll join you on the OLED train because I think for me that's one of the things that has kept me from, I think, going all in as far as I. I started up a playthrough of Hollow Knight a few weeks ago on my Steam Deck. And like I think I had the smaller red in the back of my brain of like, oh man, should I start this now or should I just like wait till the Switch is going to come out but then I'll be playing Mario Kart. I'll just play it right now on the Steam Deck. And I'm shocked by how much post now having the Switch 2. I'm still. When Greg's hitting us up for codes or whatever and like it's an indie game, I'm still like, I think I'll still get it for PC. That way I can have it on my Steam deck, right. And like that's. I, I think that is like wholly a product of it not having the OLED screen. And so it's still kind of being on par with what I envisioned from what my Steam Deck experience is.

[Tim Geddes]

Is it not also performance, you think? I feel like, you know, I mean for. Not that it's gonna be garbage, but I feel like most of the time I'm expecting a PC version to run better than a Switch version.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, funny, I don't think we should think that anymore.

[Tim Geddes]

Fantasy life, I, I know is, but it's like I was enjoying that so much on Rog and then I. I got it on Steam.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Well, okay. Rog's different though.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Rog's. We're talking about a $900 piece of tech like Steam Deck.

[Greg Miller]

Very different power, but also for a game like Hollow Knight, like, I. I don't even think I'd be able to notice the difference between playing it on a Switch and playing it on my Steam Deck.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

And so for me, I think about.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It as you don't have oled, right? For Steam Deck.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So like now these are kind of equivalent hardwares for me outside of like the Switch. Give me my Nintendo experiences and those exclusive games. But when I'm thinking about like, what's inside, I actually don't know what technically is more powerful between the Switch two and the in. In the Steam Deck, but I know for certain games that I'm going to, it's like, all right, I'm splitting the difference. At least for PC, I can then play on my. My 480 rig at home.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, exactly. That's it. Ready to go.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

From the Switch perspective though, of the hardware, I really am a fan of that. They kept the exact same width of the switch 1 to switch 2. Like, I can't believe this tablet is as portable as it is. The kickstand's awesome on this thing. I love how flexible it is. I love how sturdy it keeps it to the angle that I want it. Overall, I think hardware wise, this is just such a step up from the Switch one in terms of quality. The Joy Cons, the magnets, fantastic. I love the lack of wiggle where I feel like on the Switch one, after three days, the rails were a little looser than I wanted to be. And I've had like four or five switches over the years and that's always been an issue. So I don't foresee that being an issue here, which is great. The Joy Cons being bigger, so much better. I still don't love the Joy Cons, but I don't think that I ever will because of how thin they are. But they're thin because the tablet's thin, so.

[Tim Geddes]

Joey Radstone Super Chats. It says adult sized buttons and sticks make it a nine out of ten.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, honestly, it is a, it's a major step up from the, the Joy Con ones in, in that but also just the finish of the plastic is so much nicer than Anything on the Switch 1. So yeah, it doesn't feel like a toy in any way, which I think is a very un Nintendo thing. But that's good. I think it's a good step forward. And the Pro Controller 2 I am obsessed with. I absolutely love this thing. It is a dream controller. Love the back buttons, I love the feel of it and the sticks like unlike the Pro Controller one which I also really loved that had a problem where whenever you would like use the analog sticks it would grind a bit and they'd get that weird white dust everywhere. This does not have that. These are some of the nicest feeling sticks I've ever had the pleasure of having my fingers on.

[Tim Geddes]

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[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

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[Tim Geddes]

Low skill play said I had Fogo to chow for lunch and I'm stuffed. Brazilian steakhouse for lunch. That is God damn wild. God damn. Yeah. And I was like, it's Friday.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Friday on a Thursday. Dude, that's awesome.

[Tim Geddes]

They got a special. Are you just binging?

[Greg Miller]

Should we do that on the company card? Anybody who's with me? Okay.

[Tim Geddes]

We haven't done an outing in a while since that baseball game, which was a long time ago, I think. But, you know, we should figure that out maybe for some.

[Barrett Courtney]

Baseball game next week. Want to join?

[Tim Geddes]

No. There's a Superman baseball game coming up for the Giants. I don't know if you've seen this. You go and you get a reversible giant Superman jersey. It's a real deal. It's cool.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's a real deal.

[Tim Geddes]

It's a night game, though. It's kind of like. I don't know if I'm.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Anyways, I. You left off on how great the new pro controller is. I concur. Adore this thing. I have gotten over myself and I let Ben use it because Ben does know controller etiquette and I'm still very. He's my son, so I'm impressed every day by him. But I also, you know. There it is. Look at that thing. Come on now. You know what I mean?

[Barrett Courtney]

Who are we playing that night?

[Tim Geddes]

I looked into all this.

[Barrett Courtney]

I forgot the Marlins baseball team called.

[Greg Miller]

The Marlins?

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, the Miami Marlins.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Miami Marlins.

[Tim Geddes]

Anyways, he knows to clean off his thumb because he sucks his thumb still. So he's great. Anyways, my problem here is, though, this is so that a pro and a con here. Great controller, fantastic. This Nintendo, a pro for you. Awesome that you let Pro Controllers 1 work with the switch to con. Why can't I turn on the fucking console with a pro controller one. What the fuck? Yeah, update that. That's. That's. I thought I was wrong for a second where I'm like, yeah, no holding it. I'm like, oh. And I saw a tick tock later on, somebody else bitching. I was like, oh, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't think that's gonna get updated.

[Tim Geddes]

No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Can I buy the. Buy the second one? Buy the pro controller too.

[Tim Geddes]

Don't push me. I want to. I don't need to, but I want to. I have so many pro controller ones sitting around. I can't do it. I can't do it. Maybe I go trade in all the switches. I rounded up all the switches in my house. I'm like, I got like three switches maybe. Yeah, I got no three switches. I think.

[Greg Miller]

I guess you have three people in your house.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, well, Ben never had his own, so I had like the original OG one. Right? Yeah. Then Jen and I bought two OLEDs. Then when Jen was on a family emergency in Canada, she needed tail therapy and just bought a Zelda one, like for four Zelda while she was up there or whatever. So I just have four switches sitting around. Like there's too many switches. I don't need too many switches. Trade them in. Get that. Maybe I'll buy a controller off that. That would make sense. I digress. What do you want to do here, Tim?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't know.

[Tim Geddes]

Are you ready to score this and then keep talking?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, here's the thing. Scoring hardware is silly. Like, I think that it's especially early on in the. The. The. I will, like, I'm willing to put a number on it, but it's like probably 8.5. Like, I feel like it's. Yeah, it did the thing and it's great in a lot of ways, but it's not blowing me away. And it has some pretty glaring issues of things that I care and. Yeah, it's like, I know we'll get there. I know we'll get the oled. I mean, we're they. The OLED is a choice and the choice is not just the money side. The choice is for them looking at this and being like, hey, we. We are valuing the VRR and like the tech experience of it all. It's the same thing. Same reason that the Xbox Ally X is not going to be oled, which is an incredible bummer to me because I would prefer OLED over that. But they're making their choices and we're going to have to fucking live with it. I'll be a big boy. I'm gonna though, make Ben.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, Big boy too.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I don't. I don't wash my hand after I suck it though.

[Tim Geddes]

Jesus.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

You know what I mean?

[Greg Miller]

Hell yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Do you want to score? What do you feel about. How do you feel about scores on a console?

[Greg Miller]

I mean, is my score gonna move the needle on anybody being like, I'm gonna buy a switch too? Like, what does my score even mean in this context? I'll give it an eight, I guess.

[Tim Geddes]

Me too. Yeah, that's where I am too. I think it's great. I think this is review so far and again we're talking about where it is a week in with. I'm having a great time with it. I think things like battery life, inability with the Pro controller, oled, stuff like that's what brings it down for me. I'm not waiting into the software stuff, which is totally valid and I think is you present your case for whatever you're doing is one thing. Right. But for me, it's. I'm so excited for my future with the device, if that Makes sense where it is. Donkey Kong, hopefully in Animal Crossing, Metroid, which I've never connected with before, but I'm hopeful I will this time. Echoes all, you know, the list goes on. Pokemon. Like, I'm talking about Pokemon Z. Like, yeah, there's a lot of fun times for me on this system that I think I wouldn't have been as excited about at the beginning of the year. You know what I mean? I don't know. I like the handheld so much. I like the experience so much. Seeing Ben so excited for it is something that's interesting too, is giving me, you know, I'm. I'm coasting off of him. I'm getting a contact Nintendo high from my 3 year old, which is cool.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. I mean, I do want to give a shout out to all the little things that they got right, like the Eshop runs and a lot of the compliments I am giving. This is just, oh, it didn't work before, works now. But that's true. Like all the so many things that I had issues with in my experience. Like Greg was saying earlier that you essentially after Animal Cross being bounced off your Switch. The Switch was for all intents and purposes my main console the entire time. Yeah. And there was so many things that annoyed the living fuck out of me. And they're better now. That's really kind of like all I could ask for for a sequel to a system. Right. So I'm liking the way the menus work. It's little tiny tweaks here and there. But like, I think it's better than the Switch one. Being able to transfer from Switch one to Switch two was effortless. Like everything just worked. The fact that the games. The fact that six months ago we sat at this desk having conversations about predicting what the Switch launch was going to look like and what the tech was going to be and what dumb decisions they're going to make. I can't believe we made it out this well. Where, yeah, there is HDR and there is variable refresh rate and we're saying 120 frames per second for Nintendo. Like all of that stuff not only was not a guarantee, it wasn't even necessarily likely. So we got so much more than I expected. And how was the Switch two editions going to work? In my opinion, this is the best case scenario. We are getting substantial updates to certain games that we want with a bunch of new content in certain cases and other games, hey, it's just a free update and it gets you all the tech stuff that you need. And even if it doesn't have a patch. The games are running better. That's awesome. I can't believe that all of those things that I just said are true. I thought for sure it was going to just be nickel and diming and on top of that, not even get getting what we want in the majority of cases. I think we're already at a point that the majority of things that we'd be interested in are there. There's a handful of things that aren't. Smash Brothers, Animal Crossing, et cetera, et cetera. Even without the patches, those games are running better. Awesome. We would have never predicted that.

[Greg Miller]

Can you put, like, a calendar reminder? I want to come back around to my Switch to review, and I think we all should actually come back around to the Switch to review at the end of the year. I think once, like, the slate of software is out and once we can kind of, like, have that retrospective, talk about, like, all right, how was the Switch launch year? I think that's a better conversation because, like, honestly, when I say eight, I am, like, being predictive of, well, I know Donkey Kong is coming and I know Metroid is coming. And, like, I know I'm going. I'm assuming I'm going to like and enjoy those games, which is probably a bad assumption to make as far as, like, what we're doing critically here.

[Tim Geddes]

Right?

[Greg Miller]

But, like, you know, I think I'm excited about the Switch 2 for the future of Switch 2. But, like, if I'm grading my experience with, like, the launch of Switch 2 is more of a seven of like, oh, yeah, it's good. I got Mario Kart. Like, Delta is there for me to play at some point. I got my GameCube, right? And like, technically it's a better thing, but I overall, I'm still, like, in a weird place of, like, wanting more because I'm greedy and I'm fucking, you know, I'm hungry for more Nintendo, you know, I mean, like, the more the better. The more the merry when it comes to Nintendo games.

[Tim Geddes]

The more the Mario, the more, the more the merry.

[Greg Miller]

But yeah, like, I'm not excited to go home. Excited is the wrong word. I'm not going to go home and immediately pick up my Switch to. Aside from maybe, like, maybe I do a race in Mario Kart. Yeah, you know what I mean? But then I'm going to go and I'm going to play. I'm going to check out the altars, maybe, or I'm going to check out Death Training Tour or something else. Like, I'm not having that experience with it, which is like, honestly the ideal for me that marks what a great launch looks like for me is like going home and being like, I got to pick up the Switch too. I got to continue driving around or making progress and whatever big game is out. And it's hard to do that when you're following up your last launch, which was like a Breath of the Wild type experience. Not having that at launch for me does it makes it tough.

[Tim Geddes]

I have good news. I am in the document and I have penciled in. December 5th six months later Nintendo Switch to review six months later kind of funny. Gamescast. Will we all be alive for it? We'll find out.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's gonna be exciting though. It's gonna be a very interesting conversation to look at. Like, I think obviously we know the Nintendo games, but like, what are the third party games we don't know about? Like, what sneaks in there? And I again, I am a little fearful of it. Like, I don't think that it's necessarily gonna be the best first year for the console. I still have hopes that they will turn it around and that next year we'll start to see a little bit more day and date expectations of third party games are going to be on Switch. But the fact that it's not happening as soon as I expected it to.

[Tim Geddes]

It concerns me coming off the bench. The one, the only, the sad boy. Barrett. Barrett, Courtney, how much switch 2 have you been playing?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

A lot.

[Barrett Courtney]

Been playing around with a bunch of stuff. We'll talk about Mario Kart World tomorrow.

[Tim Geddes]

Happy to announce officially Barrett will be joining the panel tomorrow for the Mario Kart review.

[Barrett Courtney]

GameCube games, all that stuff, booting up Breath of the Wild, playing around with just the inner workings of it and stuff. Just to jump off of Tim's point, I think that's the other primary thing that this launch feels a bit underwhelming is because of their weird rollout with dev kits and stuff. And why did Tony Hawk's three plus four is launching day one on Switch two? Correct. But like, was it only that team that got a dev kit for that? And like why?

[Greg Miller]

But that's. But it's Activision.

[Barrett Courtney]

But we fuck under the same fucking umbrella. Like, it doesn't make any sense. And so like, I feel like there should have been a bit more, especially with how much they were talking about third party support in one of their recent Nintendo directs. It just feels like, why was Delta Rune the only like big prominent indie game to have like a Switch to launch? In like the first, like week or two. Right.

[Greg Miller]

Survival kids.

[Tim Geddes]

Sure. Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Is that out?

[Tim Geddes]

It was in the Konami thing.

[Barrett Courtney]

I side with Jeff Grubb made a really good video about the Switch 2. I think he put it up on launch night or something like that. And it feels like a Switch Pro, which is a good thing. It's not like something crazy exciting or something like that. It's something familiar. But with that, there needs to be an excitement and a fervor for the software, and the software needs to be the thing that proves the kind of worth of the system. And I think right now the software is a little bit underwhelming at launch in terms of what we're getting in the next few months. Again, hardware and stuff is very. It's good and it's getting me back in the Nintendo ecosystem. But I think at least in the launch window, I'm like, I'm left wanting.

[Greg Miller]

I think the thing that I'll pop off of what you said, Barrett, is the part where we're talking about, like, this is what a, like, the console launch needs as far as like, proving its worth as, like, this hardware for launch. Does it? Like, because I think, I think at the end of the day, and the thing that makes reviewing hardware tough is like, when we're talking about what this console needs. Right. I think speaking from consumers, it's like, yeah, I have a hunger for more software, but very obviously, like, the console didn't need software here. Like, and maybe that is a result of it feeling like more of a Switch Pro thing than a Switch 2 is the fact that it's selling 3.5 million copies or million units without the breadth of brand new software. Right. Like, it has the. It has the backlog, it has like the backwards compatibility. It has, like, you know, stuff that's there, but, like, it doesn't really have new things. And this is the most successful console launch so far in history.

[Barrett Courtney]

Success versus, I don't know. To me, those two things don't quite correlate in terms of success and then like, overall quality of what the Switch 2 offers in its launch.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, and I agree with the area. I agree with that. Yeah. I think it's just a word of like, this is what this thing needs. I'm like, I don't know if it's what it needs because people are buying it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's funny to me because it's just like, I always try to think of, like, is there something that I want to do on it or not? And I have Mario Kart. If you don't like Mario Kart, don't get a Switch to right now. Like, I think that in terms of review, it's like, yo, I do not think the Switch 2 is for everybody right now, and I don't think it ever will be for everybody. But I do think that it's going to be for a lot of people. And I think that a lot of people like Mario Kart. So it's like, I don't know, it's just. I feel like there's a lot to comment on here, but from my personal perspective, it's like, all right, cool. I have a game that I get to play on this new hardware that I'm enjoying a lot. So that's all I need for it to be a good launch. I don't need multiple games. I definitely don't just need quantity of things. And I think on the third party side, having Cyberpunk, having Hitman, having Yakuza, it's like, that's way better than we've had from Nintendo launches in the past. So that's a good sign for me. But we need it to keep going.

[Greg Miller]

I think, to double back on my point, right? Because I do have. People are coming at me and chat a little bit, right. I don't disagree with Barrett in the point of when we talk about our video game reviews and how I feel about the new Call of Duty or how I feel about the new Spider man game, I don't look at success as far as the bar for, is this thing good? You know, like, that's not the way you review a thing. You review a thing based off of is. Do you like the art? Do you think the art is good? Like, what are the positives? What are the negatives of this thing? And you dig into and you, you analyze it. I think in talking about hardware, right. I think it just gets weird and different where I. I can critique the fact that I, for me personally, I look at the software lineup and I'm not happy as an audience member with like, the lack of software, right? Like, I love Mario Kart. I love the new stuff that's there. But I might want more. I can say that. But business wise, that just doesn't align with the reality of what the Switch 2 is doing. What the Switch 2 is, right? Like, Nintendo's not going to launch Donkey Kong Bonanza and it's not going to get Hollow Knight, Silksong, and it's not going to like, get a new 3D Mario and launch it all within the same month window because they don't want their games to cannibalize each other and they have the freedom, inability to have something as. Something as powerful brand wise as the Switch that's going to sell regardless. Like if I'm Nintendo I'm doing this exact same thing where I'm going launch it with Mario Kart and call it a day. We'll have Donkey Kong for month two. Why have Metroid prime for the next month we'll have this and we're going to pace out our games. That way we can always have something new coming out. We're not going to blow our load at launch that way there's going to be like a fucking.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

A gap between games. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So that's more my point. Not that like the success is what a review is, but more so just I don't think Nintendo needs software at launch. Needs a lot more software, I should say.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Geddes]

Tim, talk to me about your docked experience. I feel like I always go to handheld. How much I enjoy that my airplane stuff. One of my cons, for some reason this one hurts my right hand. I never had that that I remember with my Switch 1. But I also remember using the Switch S1 fixture and always having my pro controller with. But I think that's also an interesting thing. I thought of it on the plane as well where I was doing this and I was like oh. And I was like, you know what? I never think to bring an Xbox controller with my Rog or my Steam deck. I'm happy to hold those and play those. Something about the chunkness of it works with my hand. But both switches I was like I got a pack of controller.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. I mean I as much as possible avoid using the JoyCon. So I always try to use a Pro controller or dualsense whether I'm docked or handheld. But yeah, so far docked it's been great. Everything works the way that it should. The HDR can be a little bit finicky. Like I haven't found a consistent thing that I like where there's an option in the settings where you can force HDR for all things even if it's not HDR compatible games or you can make it so it's just for compatible games. And you know, the common sense would be turn it off for games that don't have it and only have it for compatible software. And I think that that's games look better majority of the time. But I have found a couple use cases where I prefer to turn that setting on even if the games don't have it just because the colors look too washed out otherwise. And I don't like that. I like consistency when it comes to these things. And unfortunately HDR is always on all consoles and in every format. PC and otherwise always has these problems. But it's. This Nintendo one is different and it's annoying to me. But besides that like it, it works the way it should. The 4k signal works like all that stuff, it just works. The dock is fine. I like that it has a fan. I think that that's good. I still hate that the dock has the stupid little back panel. Just don't even sell that Nintendo don't. Don't have it be part. Everyone throws that shit away. Just gets in the way.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know, but besides that. Yeah, the having the Pro controller to actually turn on the system and stuff. Like all of it just works great.

[Tim Geddes]

I saw somebody earlier ask how do you do it? You just hold down the home button if you know we have to figure.

[Barrett Courtney]

Out the dock for Switch family consoles and scratching the screen.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh yeah, you scratch your screen.

[Barrett Courtney]

I'm not a heavy handed person when it comes to like handling my, my, my, my Switch. I'm usually very careful with that. And I've had my Switch OLED for a few years and I never put a screen protector on it. I think just out of pure laziness. Even though I did get screen protectors for my like first couple of switches. And I've already scratched up my switch too just by docking it which is insane. There was, it was clean for the first few nights and then I took it out normally after like I remember looking at the screen I was playing in handheld the night before and then I think it was. When was this post? Two days ago. I finally noticed that morning I was like there's like four scratches on this thing. That is crazy. I think the, the form factor inside like, like what needs to happen Nintendo for that to not be such a consistent thing with just docking. Which I think is insane.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That sucks.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah. I'm hoping the glass screen protector that I'm getting, I think by Friday will kind of like clean it up and kind of hide away the those. They're like not like deep cuts or anything or deep scratches but I'm hoping they're small enough that the protector will kind of hide them away when I put that on. And for now I'm just not going to dock it.

[Tim Geddes]

Timothy, you were Mr. Accessories for Switch 1. I have a question here. And then I. But I don't know where you're at with Switch two Reed does says or do you have recommendations yet for a handheld grip? My hands hurt.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No, I don't. Real, real quick. Just on the docked experience, something I want to say is like I've for years now talked about how much I hate the Nintendo menu because it's not in 4K and it looks like garbage on my TV. I'm just so happy. It looks great now. Like it's just such a, such a little win. But it's like every single time I turn this thing on I'm like, God damn, this looks sharp. Thank you. Thank you Nintendo for finally getting to modern times in terms of accessories though. Yeah, I, I, it's not been too impressive to me on the accessory front because it's so early. I feel like there's like not even, there aren't any third party joy cons. I mean in fact there aren't even any other color joy cons. Right? Like we just have the, the basic color and that's it. So I do think in the next couple months we'll start seeing a lot more variations in different things. There are grips available from dbrand and Genki and I've watched a ton of reviews on them and people seem to really like them. I've never found additive grips to a Nintendo Switch that makes the experience better for me. It just feels like there's just more shit. It reminds me of like the Game Boy back in the day having that whole tech pack on it with the magnifying glass. This sucks. You know what I mean? Leave that in the past. But otherwise, yeah, like the Pro controller is the accessory I'd recommend the most. And yeah, otherwise I'm kind of just waiting for other accessories. It's been a pretty, pretty boring, boring launch for me accessory wise. I did end up getting the Express SD card, just a 256 just to hold me over till the 1 TB or more available. And even on that side I've seen a lot of tests of games seem to run fairly significantly faster when they're on the console itself as opposed to from the game card or from the SD card. And that's a bummer to me, especially if I'm spending that much damn money on a goddamn car.

[Tim Geddes]

For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We asked of course for you to write in with your reviews and thoughts on the Nintendo Switch 2. So many of you had as YouTube super chats. Of course you still can on YouTube.com kind of funny games. It's Topher 9000 super chat and said bravely default HD and a good running Pokemon. Switch 2 is a 9 out of 10. Also Street Fighter 6 on the Switch has been fire bless. Have you ventured into street fighting?

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, literally I was playing it during the commercial break. It's cool. It's funny because I played it at the Switch to preview that we did in New York and I was a bit underwhelmed seeing it on the big screen docked. But playing it on handheld actually is like a way better, it looks way better that way. Like it compresses like it I, I, I think yeah, the little screen does it way more justice than seeing it blown out on the dock and it plays smooth like this is what I want out of a portable Street Fighter 6 experience.

[Tim Geddes]

So Blarkly says given the third party focus and fidelity improvements, are we in a world where the OLED model also features a specific bump to keep up with software? Tim?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't think so.

[Tim Geddes]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I don't think so. I think that we're at a place with the tech that this is probably what Nintendo's going to have. There might be a battery increase or something like that, but that comes down more to the battery tech side of things. And having an OLED screen will help with battery as well when eventually they get to that point.

[Tim Geddes]

JB Super Chats and says having a Switch 2 is like comparing your first smartphone to your latest smartphone. It's more of the same, but it's very net positive.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, absolutely. And again we can say that about every single console and that's a good thing at this point. Like we don't need gimmicks.

[Tim Geddes]

Dean8149 says switch to launching without a big single player game might be good, a good way to encourage people to try out boosted Switch 1 games before DK releases.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tim Geddes]

I think there's definitely the thought of double dipping on stuff you already own. If you never finished Breath of the Wild, never finished Zelda or obviously, yeah, you love those games so why not have it right ready to go? Let alone if you are someone entering and you didn't own a Switch or you bought it late and you never brought Breath of the Wild, here's a great chance to jump in there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I, I think that the fact that Nintendo has the supply to match the demand and it seems like they're going to keep that up for the rest of the year while putting out new titles. There's just going to be a bunch of launch points for people I think like looking at this as like the Single launch. It's like, all right, cool. Again, if you're not Mario Kart guy, cool. But there's going to be a lot of opportunities for people to jump in. Like, my. My friend group did not buy a Switch too. They're going to all have a switch 2 by the end of the year. I guarantee it. It's just. What is going to be that jump?

[Tim Geddes]

The game that pushes them.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. And I think Metroid prime is going to be that for the majority of them. But he's got a bunch of dork.

[Greg Miller]

Friends, you know, a bunch of nerds.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah. Going here. Geeks.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, dude.

[Tim Geddes]

Oh, I'm current. I want to use it in mouse mode. Mr. Hawks 182 super chat says that's another bummer.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I wish, Mr. Hawks. I wish there was a, like, four. Like, if anything, the gimmick of the switch two is the mouse mode. And there's nothing that uses mouse mode. The welcome Tour has a couple little parts, but, like, otherwise, like, no mouse mode added to Switch 1 games. Or. I just thought there'd be some mouse thing at launch, but there's just not.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Despite Andy's.

[Greg Miller]

I was shocked that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, no, Andy was just popping into a bunch of different games, like, you know, just testing out, seeing whatever he popped into. Metroid Primary messages. Like, yeah, I was playing with the master mode, and I was like, no, you weren't. He's like, yeah, I was. It was just the motion sensor.

[Tim Geddes]

Hilarious.

[Greg Miller]

That's so fucking funny.

[Tim Geddes]

That's funny.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, in the same way that Andy was surprised that Metro Prime 4 wasn't launched. Like, I'm still shocked that Dragon Drive isn't a launch game. That just. That strikes me as such a. Oh, yeah, you just put this out the same day as Mario Kart and, like, let it rock.

[Tim Geddes]

People are pointing out Civ uses the mouse mode. SIV 7.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, cool.

[Tim Geddes]

Or 8 civic 7. Shit. Fuck. Mr. Hawks 182. I fucking hosted the panel. Mario Kart World is great, but I'm loving Yakuza 0 Director's Cut, even though the X Y buttons are screwing me up in QuickTime Events. The English dub is awesome, too. So there you go. Another. It's new to you. You got something to do, something play out there. And then Peep says, what do you value more, the actual launch of the console or the launch year? To me, this first year of Switch 2 could easily surpass Switch 1.

[Greg Miller]

And that comes back around to where I'm at as far as, first of all, it's not going to surpass it.

[Tim Geddes]

Launches with Zelda has a Mario at the end.

[Greg Miller]

I got to double back to that point.

[Tim Geddes]

What do you mean?

[Greg Miller]

It could surpass the Switch one that Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild. But that's also why I come back too. I want to talk about this at the end of the year. Yeah. Our thoughts on the. On the launch because it's just tough to talk about on launch day when we have what we have. Because like the previous chat said Yakuza 0 and I'm like, good for you. But that gives me shades of like Wii U of people playing Mass Effect.

[Tim Geddes]

Or Watchdogs or whatever Batman remembered.

[Greg Miller]

It's like cool. Some people didn't play those games and now they're playing those games. But like I still. And I. And I don't want to take away from that experience because that is a valid of course experience for you're having.

[Tim Geddes]

Fun with your Switch at launch. That's all that matters.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But like that doesn't move the needle for me and I think for a group of people out there that want the new things. Right. And like, again, that's going to speak more toward the end of the year when we can talk about. All right, we got Metro prime, we got Mario Kart, we got Donkey Kong Bonanza. Let's talk about Kirby Air Riders. That's me. A more interesting conversation than what we have now.

[Tim Geddes]

First time chatter on Twitch Suico Stinger says that Cyberpunk uses the mouse mode as well. And then over on YouTube super chat Antonio and Antonio O' Neo says game Builder Garage was updated with mouse mode and makes it 200 times better. And that's an interesting one of the games that I know don't run well on a Steam deck or a Rog that use a mouse thing. And if those get ported over here, what that'll be and where the fuck Mario Maker is with mouse mode.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. You know, Mario Makers can be good.

[Tim Geddes]

Timothy, any closing thoughts you want to have here in your time capsule that will unearth in six months to see what we think of the Nintendo Switch?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I'm really excited that it's here. There are a couple glaring issues that I have with it that I'm bummed aren't going to be fixed anytime soon.

[Tim Geddes]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And that sucks. But for me, the biggest thing is I don't need to worry about Metroid Prime 4 Pokemon Z not running. That's all I need.

[Tim Geddes]

That's a big deal. Very happy about that. I have a question for you do you think I was re. I read today when I was talking to Jen about how awesome this is, that Ben's a Nintendo kid, right? And I was like, did you to Jen. I was like, did you read Patrick Klepik's newsletter about giving his. She's like, no. So I read the opening paragraph again to her, if you're not familiar.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I read it.

[Tim Geddes]

It's beautiful, right? Of like, he surprised his daughters by camping online, getting the Switch, coming home, setting it all up so that they came out for breakfast and then got breakfast and then looked over and saw that the Switch was there. And they're like, Nintendo too, and they played all day, blah, blah. But one of the things he talks about is the same thing I'm talking about of like, oh, man. Like, it sucks that open world Mario Kart. I can't just play locally and things he one of these. I wonder if he was like, I hope Nintendo patches that makes it so we can all go get the P blocks. Do you think that's something you'd see, like, we're talking about a few things that we want patched or whatever. Do you think Nintendo is going to treat Mario Kart that way again?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think that I want to save some things for the conversation tomorrow about. But yeah, I think that Mario Kart has a couple bafflingly Nintendo decisions that suck. And I do think have the chance to. I'd say a likely chance to be fixed later, but it almost feels like a deliberate choice that they made in certain ways. I'm like, damn it, Nintendo. Like, why.

[Tim Geddes]

Blessing any final thoughts right now to unearth in six months for the Nintendo Switch to.

[Greg Miller]

I'm just excited to see, like, how this experience evolves from what the Switch one was. Right. Like, I. I love new console launches as far as, like, what they bring and breathing new life into. You know, just getting my hands on a controller, getting my hands on a console, like, you know, feeling that new experience. I still going back to every console launch. I. I feel that transition. And I think we're going to feel that with the Switch to. At least I'm hoping we feel that with the Switch to. Right? And like, I think that'll be telling once we get the games that are coming up. And when I get to play Metroid Prime 4 totally in mouse mode, that's what I'm going to do. You can use that one all mouse mode.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

All right.

[Greg Miller]

Metro, I ain't doing that.

[Tim Geddes]

And then of course, while we were doing this, I got BS'd that's blue sky over there okay by Luis on fire who sends this IGN article the Nintendo acknowledges Switch to battery indicator issue and offers fix they're just saying blanketly do this this is just a blue sky that you'll get an hour more battery life so I didn't look at that because I didn't think my battery was I I'm not happy with my battery's performance but I didn't think I was getting tricked but I will look into this and go there as I urge every two for me you know looking towards six months from now or whatever I hope I still enjoy it that much I I don't think my expectations are lofty for what I want out of the Switch to so I hope Donkey Kong's great I hope we get an animal crossing update I hope Pokemon's eyes great and we have fun there Like I'm. I'm very excited for my family's future with the Switch too if that makes sense and it being like really Ben's console and something he really enjoys but yeah we will wait and see.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Do not expect it to be as good as the Switch 1 launch year oh I don't there's. I'm just like to say there's not a shot in hell but I'm going.

[Tim Geddes]

To say that but again it's gonna be like the. You know so many games I missed and had to sleep on. I never even fucking played the Metroid prime remastered because I've never ever played Metroid prime. So there's lots to go play right now. Exactly. Exactly. Ladies, gentlemen and enbies what are you excited for the next six months of the Nintendo Switch to sound off in the comments what you think it'll look like in December when we come back and Earth unearth this time capsule. And of course stay tuned they're kinda funny. Remember each and every weekday we're here with live talk show starting with games Daily and the nerdy news you need to know about. Going into Gamescast for reviews and previews going into really cool things like Superman in review before we stream some video games for your personal amusement like subscribe share YouTube.com kindafunnygames twitch tv kindafunnygames podcast services around the globe and if you really love what we do, pick up a kinda funny membership patreon.com kindafunny YouTube.com kind of funny games Apple and Spotify and of course have a great day. Until next time it's time for Superman in review. It's been our pleasure to serve you.