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Greg Miller
What's up everybody? Welcome to the Kind of Funny Games cast for Monday, March 16, 2026. You crack a beer?
Roger Piccorni
No.
Greg Miller
I thought you had enough. I'm not going to do the bin again. For Games Daily, I'm one of your hosts, Greg Miller, alongside of course the tast maker, Roger Piccorni.
Roger Piccorni
I lost my water. I don't know where it is.
Greg Miller
My water. My water. Go over there. Trying to get something out of her eye. It's the one, the only Christmas in March, Joey Noel.
Joey Noel
I promise I'm not just like overcome with emotion about propoea. Even though that is like you might be true.
Greg Miller
You might be though. And then of course, joining us for the first time ever from Wholesome Games, it is Jenny Windham. Hello Jenny. Yay. Hello.
Jenny Windham
I'm so excited. I jumped at the chance. I was like Pokemon Pocopia.
Greg Miller
We threw up the Pokemon Pocopia signal and you answered the call and I can't thank you enough for that. Remember Everybody, this is the kind of funny gamescast. Each and every weekday we run you through the biggest topics in video games. Whether they be reviews, previews, or just topics we need to talk about. We cover it all on YouTube.com kinda funnygames, twitch tv, kindafunnygames and podcast services around the globe. If you're watching live, I need your super chats right now. How much have you played? How are you happy with your builds? Have you rolled credits, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So on. Let us know in the YouTube.com kinda funnygames super chats and then of course be like our Patreon producers over on patreon.com kinda funny Karl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm. Twining. For now, let's begin with what is and forever will be topic of the show. We are nearly two weeks away from the launch of Pokemon Pocopia. Don't bust my chops about the headline, all right? This was supposed to be Friday's games cast, but we had to move it up because everybody else was sick. Okay? So I'm just sticking with two weeks because it's better than nearly two weeks. I don't want to hear about it.
Roger Piccorni
Whatever.
Greg Miller
Joey, you and I were lucky enough to be on the review we were and get to tell the world how much we love.
Joey Noel
Yeah, people doubted us.
Greg Miller
They did doubt us. But now it's taken over.
Joey Noel
Yeah, taking everybody by storm.
Greg Miller
It's taking the world by storm. So many people are buying it, they can't get it. Some places you can't get it physical. Amazon's raising the prices, then getting caught raising the prices, lowering the prices back to where they were.
Joey Noel
I have multiple people in my life that went out and bought Switch Twos because of game and I did not think that this was going to be a system seller by any means.
Greg Miller
You know, when we started talking about it and the reviews were up, that's when I was like, huh, Maybe, you know, this will actually kick people in the ass. And then of course, my Instagram, my bs. That's a blue sky, Tim. Have been filled with the people of. I caved. I caved. I caved. They got their Switch to out there, right? And as Paul Tassey over at Forbes reports, Poke. Pokemon Pocopia is racing towards a Nintendo sales record. The Nintendo Switch 2 is accused of not having a lot of must have games in its current state, hence somewhat slowing sales after a blockbuster start. But now players have made it clear they are very, very excited to get their hands on Pokemon Popopia. A game that's a mix between Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest Builders, two beloved titles. We now have data to back that up. Nintendo has just announced that Pokemon Pocopia has sold 2.2 million copies in its first four days. That pace is somewhat astonishing given that the best selling Pokemon spinoff title overall is Pokemon stadium, which sold 5.4 million copies in total. At this rate, Pokemon Pokopi is going to blow by that in the coming weeks, most likely or at most by the end of the year.
Joey Noel
That's wild.
Roger Piccorni
Incredible.
Joey Noel
Yes.
Greg Miller
Roger and Jenny, you didn't get to be on that review, so I want to start there. Jenny, how much Pokemon Pokeopia have you played since release? Nearly two weeks ago.
Jenny Windham
I feel like I think I'm at just over 60 hours over the last two weeks. I honestly would have put in more if I didn't have to do things like work.
Greg Miller
Lame.
Jenny Windham
This game has. It's consumed me in the best and worst ways possible. I am obsessed. And this was actually my reason to buy the Switch 2. At launch for the Switch 2, I was like, I'm gonna wait. I don't think there's any games for me that are really like the console buy games that are convincing me. And I saw Pacopia was coming out, so it's like, okay, I'll wait until then. And this has been the best Intro to the Switch 2 I could have ever possibly imagined.
Greg Miller
Hell, yes. I want to dive deep into that. But of course, first, Barrett, I'd love to go to the wide shot. And welcome back to work. Cool Greg.
Roger Piccorni
Oh, my God.
Greg Miller
Cool. Greg's been off an entire week. Tell me you have a good trip. Yeah. Okay. I can't wait to hear all about it. Went on a vacation, which is so
Roger Piccorni
rare for your bag. I'm so excited to hear the stories.
Greg Miller
That's a funny podcast. If it's legal to hear those stories. I'm not sure. Roger, talk to me. How far into Copia are you now? Nearly two weeks.
Roger Piccorni
Nearly two weeks. Not as far as I want it to be. Probably about a little over 15 hours. So not as much. Rookie numbers right there.
Greg Miller
This is a judgment free zone.
Roger Piccorni
Yes.
Greg Miller
Because we are going to delve into not only Kind of Funny, Best Friend Builds People, I've been following on Instagram and these people will show you. We are playing Tiddly Winks while they are building skyscrapers.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, I saw a YouTube video. I was like, this is insane. I don't even know how that's even possible. And yeah, it's. It's Judge Me Free except for the way that I hold my controller.
Greg Miller
So let's get into this. Roger. Yeah, walk us through. Right before we went live, you did something and Joey immediately called.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah. So when I play my switch, I usually don't. I don't have like a. I have a pro controller, but I don't use it. So I just use the detached joy consistent. And I kind of hold my thing like this. Like, like I'm like, like you're, like you're drecking. Yeah, like I'm dying.
Greg Miller
I say King Tootin comedy. You're right. He's in his thing with his little separate.
Roger Piccorni
And I, I hold it like this. So it's like kind of like crossed over and then it goes into mouse mode when I do this. So I had to turn off mouse mode. And then like, I was like, why the fuck is this game working like this? And I was like, oh. I just. It's just, you know, I'm rubbing on my, my arms and stuff.
Joey Noel
How did you come to find that positioning?
Roger Piccorni
I don't know. I do weird things with it. I like go behind my head sometimes. Like I'm doing weird things. It's not even performative. Like, just in my house, I'm just trying to get comfortable at all times.
Joey Noel
Are you doing this in a bed or.
Roger Piccorni
No, just on the couch. Yeah, I'm just laying down. Yeah.
Joey Noel
Just comfortable on the couch.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, yeah. I'm living a different life, Joe.
Greg Miller
I've been mocked for years of when I have a regular controller, I'll usually lay back on the couch like this. So I can't get too. In your head.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And this is what it's made for. It's like it's made for that. It's freestyling. You do whatever you want.
Joey Noel
That's what Nintendo thought.
Roger Piccorni
You know, you guys are so like in your heads about how game controllers should be held. You know, I mean, which. A larger discussion. I'm having a great time with Pecopia. I'm actually going to have a lot more fun with it now because I finally got my fiance who has like 3, 500 hours. I forgot she has an insane amount of hours in Animal Crossing. Like an obscene amount of hours. And she has been dreading, like she sees Pecopia and she's like this. Not. It feels like work for her, but like, but also like she, she knows what this is going to entail. It's going to take over entire life. She finally got it last night. So I had the moment Where I finally got to show her my island and be like, what am I doing wrong? Like, tell me. Tell me what the best way to tackle this is. Because for.
Greg Miller
Yeah, when you say, what am I doing wrong, what do you mean?
Roger Piccorni
Aesthetically, a little bit of everything, right? Because for me, I'm so new to this type of video game. I never played, like, a Harvest Moon. I played Animal Crossing, but, like, I, like, barely touched the surface there, right? Like, so for me, it's like, there is so much to do. And L is like a veteran of the harvest moons of all of these, you know, farming, crafting, you know, cozy games, whatever you want to call them. So I. For me, I'm at this point now where I am dealing with all these systems and I am getting overwhelmed. I am getting a little bit like, hey, I. I have all these sections. I don't know what to do, how, what. Where should my brain be focused on? And it was kind of a nice moment last night of me talking to her, and just. She's like, oh, there is no right way to play this. You just play it the way that you want to play. And I was like, oh, okay. I play video games so differently than I should. You should be playing this game. So, yeah, I'm having a great time. And also, this is my first, like, real Pokemon game like that. I'm. I'm. I'm playing ever. Like, I. I played maybe a little bit of like the 1 on 3Ds, but, like, I was like, oh, I don't get this. But I didn't grow up with Pokemon like that. I like the show a lot. So I'm finding out about these Pokemon. I'm having the moments where I'm like, oh, my God, this motherfucker is walking around on two feet. Like, it's crazy. Like, I didn't know they did that. Like, why is this little guy like that? Like, finding my. My favorite characters. Finding Scyther. Scyther. My guy ever said that wrong in the office. I did call him the office. People made fun of me. And, yeah, I'm just having a great time and I'm excited to see how this world opens up. And said I talk about, like, the niche systems because I have, like, some thoughts about some of the ways that the systems work, and I want to know if I'm doing it wrong or also how we can improve it.
Greg Miller
Joey, talk to me. Since review. Where are we at? Hours wise, play wise. What have we been doing?
Joey Noel
I just looked and I have 70 hours.
Greg Miller
God damn, Joey.
Joey Noel
So I've been playing a lot. All of my other hobbies have suffered greatly. And that's sad for me. I've been 30% of the way through that Strangers Bell Burden book that you told me about for weeks at this point, and I haven't been able to finish it. Gia's finished it. My friend Lauren's finished it. Everybody wants to talk about it, and I'm the one holding up the conversation. So I got to go back to that next.
Greg Miller
You got to move on to half his age. I told you when I started half his age. And I was like, I don't know.
Roger Piccorni
The Jenna McCurdy one.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Joey Noel
I also have Song of Achilles. Like, my book list is really long right now. So, yes, I'm having a great time. It's getting to be really fun because every couple of days I hear from somebody that's like, what do you think about Bookopia? And I was like, oh, I have lots of thoughts to the point now where, like, girls from my crafting thing bought switches on Saturday and have been texting me about it. Everybody is playing. I am deeply upset that I have yet to find ninetales.
Greg Miller
Yeah, Joey, you turned me last week was like, Nine Tails. I'm like, yeah, ninetales been living on my island forever. What are you talking about? So annoying.
Joey Noel
But I'm trying not. I'm usually such, like, a guide person that I'm trying not to be with this game because I actually didn't really think that I needed it. So I'm trying to play this a little bit more organically, but it still has its claws in me. The biggest compliment I can give to one battle after another this weekend is that it made me put my switch down for two and a half hours.
Greg Miller
Wow.
Joey Noel
So, yeah, nothing but praise for both of those things.
Greg Miller
Yeah. You know, I said it at review, and I'll reiterate it now, like, Pokemon Pokopi is going to be a problem. Obviously, we were able to talk about it. We've made no bones about it. You know, the Crimson Desert review is coming up on Wednesday. Clearly, that is a large game. And so I had to put Procopia down. So I'm only at. I looked right before this over 40 hours in, which is a fraction of where I want to be, because what review I was at 30. I forget something like that or whatever. And, like, this is a game that consumes you. And I am still both shocked and so happy, so ready to applaud Nintendo on this that it's a game that I Can jump in for five minutes or I can jump into for a five hour plane ride back and be like, I am getting as much out as I want. I still am the Joker in the Dark Knight. I'm the dog chasing cars. Like, I get in, I'm going to do this. But then I find that. But then this happens and then this. And it's like, even at the end of it, I didn't accomplish ever what I set out to do. But I feel fulfilled and I did a lot and I'm excited to turn it back on and get my stamp the next day or go do this thing right. And I'm just shocked of, I guess since we talked about on content, right? Like I rolled credits the day after the review embargo lift or after our review went live and I finished it at the kitchen table in the office, looked at you, Joey, and I said, I'm tearing up over a Pokemon spin off.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Greg Miller
And then the tears fell from it. And there will be no spoilers to that degree. Don't worry. I'm sure throughout this ninetales is in the game, that kind of spoiler will happen. We're not going to talk about big broad strokes, big broad stuff, but to roll those credits, cry, then go back to my desk, text him about it, Pokemon fan number two, then slack Jen about it. And Jen goes, what happened? I was like, I won't do justice writing it, let me tell you. Went home, told her on the couch after we got bed to sleep, she burst into tears. And it's like, what a special game. And as I've said, take it or leave it. Hate me if you don't. I think Starfield has such a great premise for New Game Plus. Whatever you think of the game, the premise of New Game plus is so good. To finish Procopia, cry at the credits and then have it pick up and be like, all right, so this is why we should still keep going. And maybe like a thousand percent. Yes. Like, I need to keep doing it for that. And then to be compared to 60 compared to 70, 40 hours in. And I was like, I'm gonna finish tunneling through this. I want to get rid of all this. I want to make this tunnel, tunnel, tunnel. And then look to the right and be like. Or left and be like, whoa, wait a second. Like, those are the blocks they use to break things out.
Joey Noel
There's something back there.
Greg Miller
And there's a weird border around that door. Or would be a doorway. Smash through it, go downstairs. 40 hours in that thing. You've Been collecting. This is where you put them. I was like, I found. That is so fucking good. And I'm. I'm the same way. Joe of like, I am all about the builds. We will show a lot of different builds here. I'm following Instagram creators that are building really cool shit.
Joey Noel
I'm sure Subreddit is popping.
Greg Miller
I am not about jumping into the spoilers of the subreddit or jumping into the Googling what's going on or what this is like. I want to take this game as it comes at me rather than try to get to the bottom of it. And so, Jenny, to bring you in, of course, first off, for folks who don't know what is wholesome games, and then what is it about Pokemon Pocopoeia that speaks to you as somebody so involved with wholesome.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Jenny Windham
So for folks who don't know wholesome games, we started as a. Actually a Twitter account. We turned into what's now a, I guess, annual showcase called Wholesome Direct and an annual showcase called Wholesome Snack, where we curate games that are cozy, hopeful, joyful, really gentle experiences. And we've actually also transitioned into publishing games. And so.
Joey Noel
Whoa. Yeah.
Jenny Windham
We have, like turned this thing that we all love, which is this specific type of experience, and made it our lives, which is honestly an absolute dream come true.
Greg Miller
I have to imagine that's gotta be pretty special feeling. Just like this super chat from SendNuggies. Sorry I'm not playing Procopopia. Just a big fan of wholesome games. They hold one of my favorite showcases of the year and release one of my contenders of 2025 with is this seat taken? Which is a game I adore. Is this seat taking.
Joey Noel
I also love.
Jenny Windham
Oh, my gosh, that's so sweet. Thank you, Sun Nuggies. Wow. Yeah. So it's like, honestly, my dream job. I'm working with the best people. So many amazing creators. And so for Pocopia, it's like. What's interesting is I actually personally was very hesitant about Procopia. I didn't get early access. I saw it and the Pokemon fan in me was like, oh, man. Pokemon as a franchise for me sits on nostalgia so much. And I was like, okay, they're now doing this genre and doing the mechanics of cozy gaming, which is a lot of repetition, farming, sim sort of life, sim decorating. This could be amazing. But I am really gonna, like, I'm not gonna put all my eggs into this basket because I really don't wanna be disappointed. I was very just like, I'm not gonna think about it too hard. I'm not gonna. You know, I don't want to build it up to be something it isn't.
Greg Miller
Sure.
Jenny Windham
And I think even if I had been excited for it, I still would have been just as over the moon about this game as I am right now. Because it has taken, like, I think Animal Crossing walked so that this game could truly run. The ways that they have polished a lot of the things that people have given feedback on over the years, the ways that it involves. I think you mentioned it in your review, you or Joey, how it's like the pathways to this game, all roads lead to Bookopia. It's just so good. So this game truly has been special to experience over the last two weeks. Ish. And yeah, I'm gonna stop because I will just end up rambling the entire time.
Roger Piccorni
I lost podcast.
Greg Miller
This show is gonna be right to jump off of that. Someone who's gonna come up both in the live chat and in photos later on. Cameron Kennedy, of course. Kind of funny. Best friend extraordinaire. Bs. That's a blue sky, Tim. Something I haven't seen people mention. But a huge quality of life upgrade in Procopia over Animal Crossing is having actual icons for every item. Man, I hated having every piece of furniture or whatever in my inventory in Animal Crossing just look like the same green leaf.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Greg Miller
And there's, I would say, innumerable things like that where I'm right there with you, Jenny. Of like, this is clearly such a successor to Animal Crossing, even though it isn't a sequel to that. But so many lessons learned, so many things changed. I think that's why it's so easy for Joey and I to jump in and fall in love with. But Roger, I'm interested in you for someone who isn't that type of gamer and then also isn't a tried and true Pokemon person.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, I think the biggest difference here is I got pretty bored with the characters in Animal Crossing.
Joey Noel
Right.
Roger Piccorni
When you're playing around, you. Once you start understanding the archetypes and like six or seven of them and you're like, oh, okay, I got a jock character. Okay, it's cool, he's cute. But like, he's doing the same, you know, voice acting, everything, whatever, same thing. Not voice acting. But you, you get who this guy is. He's going to pick up things and he's gonna be like, I work out really hard. You don't do it enough.
Greg Miller
But then to dude everywhere in my fucking island.
Roger Piccorni
I know, just shut up. Stop working out. Stop telling me about it. And then you go over here, and it's like, oh, wow. Like, Bulbasaur is different and unique to Charizard. And, like, all of these characters are unique. And one of them has, like, a Southern accent. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, why they put so much love and care into each of these Pokemon. To feel unique and to have those moments where it's like, okay, sure, that maybe they're not reinventing the wheel, right? But, like, they feel different, they feel unique. And to see their interactions like that, that is what kept me going in the beginning was like, that pure joy of walking around and be like, okay, I'm doing the farming thing. I'm doing. Oh, why? Why is this character running around with this character? Oh, they're playing tag. Like, they're just playing. They're playing a game together. And it's like, it's still, like, even though it. It has been a little bit repetitive. Right. You know, you see it happen a few times. Like that joy of seeing a new Pokemon that you have. You have found now running around with another Pokemon and talking about how much they like that. It's simple things, but it adds onto it because these. They have the recognizable, you know, characteristics of being characters that we've seen for years now. And to see them on my island popping up and also running around and talking to each other and mentioning niche things about each other, like all the references, they did such a great job of building up this universe of these characters in my island and not just feeling like, hey, here's the generic water people. Here are the generic fire people. They all feel unique.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I think, you know, to your point, something that's so special about the game versus Animal Crossing.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah.
Greg Miller
Is the idea that Animal Crossing, New Horizons, and I love Animal Crossing. I love New Horizons, don't get me wrong. But turning it on after years away, you come back in and it's like, okay, everyone references that you haven't been there, but it feels like nothing's changed, Nothing's happened. And again, Pocopia isn't seeing dramatic changes to the world, but the relationships and them playing and them talking, and now someone's staffing the Poke Mart than they weren't before. And this. That the other. Like, there's a vibe to coming back to that game with the exclamations and them running to tell you something that makes it feel more like, again, the game is coming to me rather than me going to it. Animal Crossing, New Horizons is. I'M gonna go check in with Mouse. What's up? Oh, hey, Bing Bong. Because I named you. You know, it's like. But I'm making that first step coming to me, which is such a small thing, and I think kind of hard maybe if you're not a player, because I know so many people are tuning in that aren't playing Pocopi. That doesn't sound like a difference, but. But it is, Joey.
Joey Noel
Yeah, it's definitely more engaging. The amount of, like, videos and stuff that I've seen of really fun Pokemon, like, encounters with each other have, like, really blown me away because usually I'm like, pretty concentrated on the task at hand and I'm like, please don't bother me. I'm in the middle of a task.
Roger Piccorni
Whatever Pokemon's trying to chase after three sticks right now.
Joey Noel
Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm looking for poke metal. Like, this is not the vibe. I. It is just really mind blowing. And I'm sure for like, I'm very similar where it's like, I don't really have a huge touchstone for Pokemon other than Pokemon Snap.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Joey Noel
So it must be so fun for people that love all of these generations of Pokemon to see them all, like, interacting with each other and stuff like that. Yeah. It's just been such a delight. And now I'm excited to, like, play more Pokemon games. Do you think that you.
Greg Miller
Wow.
Joey Noel
I know.
Greg Miller
What is it? But what does that mean for you? Does that mean you're waiting for a wind and wave, or does it mean you're jumping into, like, I want the
Joey Noel
cute, like, Island Pikachu vibe? That's what I'm waiting for.
Greg Miller
Fair enough. Fair enough. DC Hard Rocker super chats and says online with what Roger said. It blew my mind. When you noticed that the Ditto mirrors how the characters you interact with talk. That's just an insane detail.
Roger Piccorni
I never noticed that.
Greg Miller
I've noticed that. For me, like, this isn't like, you have to notice it. They spell it out for you. But the first time one of the Pokemon's like, you know what, Ditto, You've been helping me out a lot. I'm going to start calling you by your name. And they call it for me my Ditto's name. Ben. They started calling him Ben. And then to see that slowly through the other Pokemon, I was like, damn, Jenny, that's awesome.
Jenny Windham
Yeah. No, I. That was the exact same thing. I realized maybe like day two or three when they. They start out by calling you Ditto and when they start calling you by your name. It's just like the best feeling in the world. It was something I was not expecting at all. And to your points on, like, the Pokemon interaction, like, seeing the animations, too, like, Bulbasaur has this adorable heart animation that.
Joey Noel
That.
Jenny Windham
And it's just like, I was surprised at how much the photo feature ended up being something I used because I'm not a photographer in game. But not only does it have a function where you can take pictures and actually get items essentially through that, but as you go through and play, there are these moments where you can encounter scenes between Pokemon that are sort of more special photograph scenes that you can collect. And that just those little details that make you want to engage with every part of the game constantly is just. I've not engaged in a game, and that is so delightful. It's amazing.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah. Even the little things that they could have done to cut corners of giving Onyx a bunch of berries and being like, okay, you crushed them for me.
Greg Miller
Right?
Roger Piccorni
And it's like, okay, you could have just easily just had a big fog of war of him, just. But it's not like you see the thing and you see him crushing them, and it's like, oh, wow. Like, that's. You put in the work to make sure that this feels like I'm doing something special, not a generic action that he is doing.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah. The ability you give anybody. Cut up lumber, do whatever, right? See something like, all right, I'm going to be here a while. Check in later. And there's that point of where I understand how they can be annoying for certain people. I understand. I think the game is so vast in the amount of things to do, the amount of times I leave. All right, you guys burn all this fucking squishy clay into bricks. And I just go off. And then days later in game, I come back and it's, oh, sorry.
Roger Piccorni
That's how I do it. Okay, that's great. No, I need some bricks. That's great.
Greg Miller
I come back on the ship and the island and they run up to me like, hey, we got. I'm like, oh, man. I forgot I even did that because I'd done it, but I found it over there and did this and yada, yada, yada.
Joey Noel
This game, unfortunately, is, like, really good and really bad for anybody that has ADHD because there's 17,000 things to do, and I never remember what I was doing right before it. So, yeah, I have that all the time. I'm like, oh, that was the thing over there. And I was waiting that for the house and the thing. And it's a lot to keep track of. I feel like I need a journal for this one.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I've thought about it. Yeah. But then I would also not get anything done in the game because I'm just journaling the little crazy thing and the discovery and this. Or like, the amount of times I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna go up there and go to that corner. And the fact that I'm still finding stuff, the fact that, like, I feel. And this is. I guess in Animal Crossing, I've always been drawn to finding fossils and putting them out there. Right. Fishing never did it for me. Now I like it fine, but just not like I collect them all kind of thing. Whereas fossils, I was like, I want to do that.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Greg Miller
So in Animal Crossing, New Horizons, you know, that part of the museum is done for me. So I'm always. So I just run past, you know, the. Oh, there's something in the ground there. The fact that here it is still, like, am I going to get music? Am I going to get that thing Joey and I are talking about? Am I going to get. Like, I'm so inclined to stop and do or be up and I'm looking for something else, like, oh, I got to go investigate that. Or this habitat I built forever ago off in that corner is now flashing. I need to get over there and do that.
Roger Piccorni
Like, I think my brain is still trying to figure out, like, because when I see this and I see, like, especially mining and stuff, I assume Minecraft.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Roger Piccorni
Right. So I'm like, oh, I can just fully go and just break. It's like, at least in my game, don't tell me if this. You can probably look at me and just tell me yes or no, but, like, I'm going towards, like, areas and it's like, oh, like, you're going too far. Right. Like, or I'm hitting, like, that fog or I'm hitting walls. Or I'm like, oh, this is not procedurally generated. Right. Like, there is areas for the copper. Right. Like, it's not like, hey, just go down on the earth and you'll find iron eventually. Like, you have to go to the areas and find those areas. So I think my brain as the Minecraft person is still trying to kind of deal with that a little bit. It's not like a negative necessarily. It's just more of like, oh, I expect a mining game. I just go down the earth and I find whatever I want to do just by pure will and Resistance of just spending time and just digging in the earth.
Joey Noel
Yeah. I feel like that's where it differentiates between, like, DK bananas and stuff like that, where it's like the endless goal that it's like, well, I can't do that in this.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, exactly.
Joey Noel
A little bit more intentional.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah. Scout out places.
Greg Miller
So then, Jenny, I want to start with you. Where are we all at in our journeys? So I've rolled credits. I'm still playing, but I'm really just hung up on that first area. I'm starting to make that less where I'm focused. Jenny, what are you doing right now in.
Jenny Windham
So, like I said, I'm like, yes, 60, 70, like, somewhere in that time frame. I have not rolled credits yet. I have taken my sweet, sweet time. I love this video, and I've been really so happy with that. I spent most of my time, honestly, in the wastelands. The very first area that you get maxed it out. It looks not as gorgeous as I would like it to, but I'm starting to plan and do the things. And I've unlocked two other areas, sort of like a volcano area and a beach area. But I have not progressed to all the biomes yet. Even what happened was I saw all the ash in the volcano region and the power wash simulator began, and he said, wait, let's just clean up some of this ash. And then it just, like, never stopped. And so now I have an entire, like, storage building of ash.
Roger Piccorni
Incredible.
Jenny Windham
But everything looks clean, so I'm able to, like, finally progress this week, I think.
Joey Noel
I love it.
Greg Miller
What about you, Joe?
Joey Noel
I kind of did the opposite thing where I feel like my earlier biomes are such a mess because I didn't really understand what I was doing as I was playing that. I have deemed one of the later biomes, like, this is my home one. This is where all of my stuff is. So I'm kind of moving myself backwards in terms of building houses, decor. The decorating part is interesting because I feel like you get so many more recipes and things as you play that I'm kind of not really delving into that too much because I know I'm just going to acquire more things. And then right now I'm really focusing on trying to build all the habitats and catch as many Pokemon as possible. That's usually my. I haven't really. There's so much that bothers me in terms of, like, patches of grass not lining up and pathways and stuff like that. But I need to get every. I need to get everything done. So That I can, like, really hone in on the aesthetics of my areas and do it, because I know that if I start it now, I'm going to be like, well, I need more room for this house, and I want to put these things here, and then I'm going to have to, like, blow it all up anyway, so.
Greg Miller
Fair enough. Yeah.
Joey Noel
Waiting for that till the end.
Roger Piccorni
Roger. I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm going to be completely honest, y'.
Greg Miller
All.
Roger Piccorni
So I have, of course, the main area, and then I got another area, which is, like, a beachy area, and I started cleaning up that. And then I'm. I was trying to do, like, some of the quests there. I'm trying to figure out where Wheat is. I'm also trying to figure out all these Pokemon habit. I'm all over the place to the point where I'm like. My brain is, like, split into so many different places, and it's like, I almost regret opening up that other area, because I wish I just stayed in this area and just, like, felt a little bit happier with it, because now I feel like I have to juggle two areas, and I just don't really. Honestly, I don't like this beach area very much. I don't like. Maybe I just don't like this Pokemon over there. I got a spider one. I hate this spider guy. He's a literal spider. I don't.
Joey Noel
I don't want that.
Roger Piccorni
I almost literally said, follow me and just took you to the end of the earth and just said, you live here.
Joey Noel
Put them in a box.
Roger Piccorni
Exactly. So, yeah, I'm all over the place right now. But I think if I'm going to do this right, I have one Pokemon that I'm waiting for that will get me the potted plant situation, and I want to get some potted plants going on there. And then I'm just going to stay in this main area and just kind of build this out a little bit more, and then finally go over there and start cleaning up the. What's the little bird guy that has the bubbles that you have to spray to get. Yeah, Piplup. Yeah. And I'm going to get all the. The mud and finally do the power wash simulator. Get that all out of there. So, yeah, very early game, but have been trying to, you know, pull back.
Greg Miller
This is where, I mean, you talk about it, and we're all the same page of, like, this is why I do truly believe, like, at the end of the year, it's going to be 300 hours in the clock for me, where it's like in between everything popping back, in between reviews, popping on a plane, whatever, you know, I have a downtime and it's going to be that. Like I did the thing of mainlining it.
Joey Noel
Yes.
Greg Miller
For review. But then also because this is how my mind works after so much animal crossing of. I want every recipe possible. I want every Pokemon possible. I want every thing they're going to eventually give me later on to make it easier to build and change. And so, yeah, going back to. I am back in withered wastelands, right? And I am just, cool this wall, ugly.
Roger Piccorni
Smash it down.
Greg Miller
I need to bring it all down to connect these two areas. Because why am I building my shitty little houses when there's a house over here to restore? But then I got to get electricity. But then I want to go up there. I forgot that there was a mine over here. Then there's this secret thing. It's like, well, what if I put all my habitats up high and this, that and the other. Like, I'm going to spend so much time on that area long before I go back to like, let's go back to the beach, let's go see what we need to do there. It's crazy, the depth of this game and how long it'll keep going for everybody. Jenny, is it going to be a problem for you and your work?
Jenny Windham
You know, I have decided and started saying we should make Pecopia content for work.
Greg Miller
Yeah, smart.
Jenny Windham
I'm like finding ways to try and bring it in because otherwise it is a problem for my work because I haven't done this since the Animal Crossing days where I am waking up to check in on the builds that I know have finished overnight and just doing a quick run out to collect a few resources before I start my workday. I go in at lunch. It's wild. I really don't know. And it's been so much fun to see because that is the energy that's been online that I've loved, even maybe more than the game itself, which is a lot, is everyone seems to be in the state of just joy in discovering the game and sharing the little secrets that they're discovering and the little tips and tricks. And it's. You don't get that sort of break from a launch moving into this, what feels like a beyond launch momentum, a community.
Greg Miller
Right?
Jenny Windham
Yeah, community.
Greg Miller
It's joyous for me to open Instagram or open Reddit and see the subreddit and see the post and then be flabbergasted. About what other people can build versus me.
Joey Noel
Gosh, I know. My brain just doesn't work like that.
Jenny Windham
No, me neither.
Greg Miller
In terms of content, though, Jenny, over on your Instagram, you did put up a really cool post, I thought, which was attempting your first build. And you have, like, not only you have so much, like, I like. You can tell how much, again, we're talking about the community here and what people feel. The way you went into this and delved in and put text on all the screenshots and like, walking people through what you do. Hash or, you know, asterisk, keyword, attempting. Like, I really appreciated the way you did that and did that, but I think that's what I'm enjoying seeing is people experience it that way.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah.
Jenny Windham
I think one thing I want to highlight is because a lot of people make the Minecraft comparison, and for me, that was a point of hesitation as well. Like, I was. I was nervous because I am not a Minecraft girly. I don't usually enjoy games that are sandboxy. I don't enjoy spending a lot of time building. But what Procopia has done that I think is really unique and helps people like me who aren't into just building. Sandbox mode style is everything has a purpose. Where I know, like, Bulbasaur wants these types of environments, it likes these things. And I want to create something for Bulbasaur. And so it gives you sort of these goals implicitly. Like, you don't have to really think too hard about what you're trying to create. And so that, for me, has encouraged me to start building. And, yeah, I've now learned I kind of like building in this sandboxy environment. It's, like, provided me the gateway. And yeah, my first build was an absolute mess, but I had a great time and I'm having fun experimenting and just getting more free with that experimentation.
Joey Noel
I feel like the game's really good at. Like, if you want to do that, you have endless amounts of time and resources to, like, do these cool builds. But if your brain doesn't work like that, it's like, hey, here are these different sizes of houses that match the aesthetic and you don't really have to put a ton of brain power into it because I feel similarly of, like, Minecraft. The building is, like, never really my part. I usually am, like, in the mines or something like that.
Greg Miller
Well, this is, again, speaking back to what I think Procopia does so well of having the prefab houses where it is the idea you go through all these different environments and level up their thing you unlock, you know, the small house, the medium house, the big house that you can throw down. That look beautiful.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Greg Miller
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Greg Miller
Does any of us, any of this quartet feel like they're good at building? Like they're making good shit?
Joey Noel
No.
Greg Miller
Kenny the soft spoken no in a headshake.
Joey Noel
Especially after seeing what some players were doing, like literally 48 hours after this game launched in public.
Roger Piccorni
Nuts.
Greg Miller
And these are. These are your screens, right, Jenny, that we're seeing right now.
Joey Noel
Oh, they're so cute, though.
Jenny Windham
This screenshot, though, is hilarious. And honestly, I think it's the best tip I've given myself. So I will share with everyone and take it if you'd like. I will look at these majestic builds and be awe inspired, awestruck, like, bow down. And then I'll look at and try to find one thing that I can copy. Just, like, one element. And so the one element from this, like, beautiful. It was the sort of cottage core, foresty park, treehouse build. And I was like, they put the light bulbs, like the glow lamps inside the walls. I was like, I'm gonna do that everywhere on my island.
Roger Piccorni
I love that.
Joey Noel
That's really good.
Jenny Windham
That is where. Where I tried that.
Greg Miller
It's like, yeah, you see what people are doing out there. And it's like the rudimentary Me and Altano at IGN Minecraft stuff I'm pulling out of, like, when Ben. I was with Ben, I'm like, hey, look, that looks pretty high. We can't get to it, right? He's like, yeah. I'm like, watch this. And I just jumped up and never destroy them.
Roger Piccorni
I just got to leave them there forever.
Joey Noel
I have so many of those.
Greg Miller
But then if you want. Barrett, I want to jump. It's on the sheet under Godlike build. This is Vanessa, aka, AKA Zoe Bean over on Instagram. Vanessa is an Animal Crossing influencer. I follow. Ok. Who immediately jumped on the Procopia stuff and just started cranking through the most incredible people like this. And it was that idea where I was like, I can't believe she was able to make the jump from Animal Crossing to this so seamlessly. And you can just scroll on these thumbnails. Barry, you're doing great. Of all the. And it was to the point that she had to put up a post on. And I believe this is Vanessa on her stories of, like, everybody who's upset that I'm okay.
Joey Noel
Now we're back to Animal Crossing. I was like, this is crazy.
Greg Miller
I am still an Animal Crossing creator. I will still put up Animal Crossing things, but I have to ride the Procopia high for a second through this. And I at this. And it's the idea of, like, damn.
Joey Noel
Using those fun iridescent blocks like that, right?
Greg Miller
Every day, every time I open up the subreddit and see what people are making, I'm like, God, damn. And I was at least like, well, at least, you know, in our community. I'm doing fine. If we can throw up at Cameron Kennedy's Instagram that I put in here, Cam went. Is just going insane.
Joey Noel
But he's got that, like, artsy.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I know, but still, I don't like seeing it.
Joey Noel
I don't like seeing your talent.
Greg Miller
People are able to joke. Cameron, look at this. Yeah.
Joey Noel
Oh, my God.
Greg Miller
He went through and made this like, basically. I mean, to me, Ghostbusters Firehouse, but whatever you want to call New York building. Right. A shared space. Look, he's got the fucking goddamn retail on the bottom, residential on the top
Joey Noel
thing with the fire escapes and all of that.
Greg Miller
Yeah. It's like outrageous to see what people are doing. I love to see it. It's incredible. But like, you go into this, like. And now we're inside where we've talked. Right, Joe. Of like in Animal Crossing, having so few. And I'm including the hotel. Right. And the happy home island. So few interiors to decorate. That seemed manageable. The amount of houses and buildings I'm putting down, even in my one area of pocope, I'm like, I can't. I can't be bothered with what they look like inside.
Joey Noel
No.
Greg Miller
You get your three pieces of furniture move in Pokemon so I can move on.
Joey Noel
Yeah. I. Yeah. I feel like the item acquisition process in Pocopia is a lot longer than the one in Animal Crossing. I felt like I was able to get more items and like have more of a vision.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Joey Noel
But I feel like with this one, I'm getting stuff a little bit more slow drip to me.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Joey Noel
So it's harder to have a cohesive look for everything, which is kind of why I'm not doing it, because I'm
Greg Miller
waiting to have a whole bunch of
Joey Noel
stuff like how much is what. How many things are in the game? Like, how much am I going to be. Like, is that just going to be a never ending problem for me?
Roger Piccorni
How are you all dealing with habitats and everything? I'm sorry, in terms of like building houses for all your Pokemon, are you doing that? Are you building houses for every single one of your Pokemon or.
Greg Miller
I start with the habitat and then when I put. Put down the house, I move them into the house. Okay, you do that every bulldoze their
Roger Piccorni
habitat for pretty much every Pokemon.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I want everybody in a house so that I have to worry about their habitat.
Joey Noel
My entire first area has no houses because I didn't understand that until I got to the second one.
Greg Miller
Now it's the point where they're like, you know, you have Pokemon who are asking for specific habitats. I'm like, bro, we get in the house. You know what I mean?
Roger Piccorni
Dude, I was pissed that Scyther. I built him the biggest house that I had. And then he's like, awesome, Hey, I need a new house. I was like, bro, no, you're not. You're not. You're not getting a new house. You're staying there. I think the habitat, I guess the creation or the way that they built this out just doesn't make sense in my mind a little bit, where it's like, okay, so I'm putting this. This person that wanted to be by the water in, like, in the water and now just a house, and then they're cool with that. You know what I mean? Like, it just. That part to me, doesn't make any sense. And I'm waiting for them to be like, hey, bro. Like, I know they sometimes like, oh, it's too bright or whatever, but it's never like a super negative reaction, right? You can just kind of put whoever together and it'd just be fine. Right? So I think that part of it is, like, my brain is expecting more of, like, role playing and trying to figure out what these people like. But that's not really how this game works.
Jenny Windham
Yeah, yeah.
Greg Miller
Chat's popping off with different things, right? What? I think that's polo. 7 OT the big thing is stacking habitats, habitats inside custom houses. And then Billy says if you give them a house, they won't disappear. They'll just go into their house. Otherwise, you have to use honey to call them, which I haven't had to do. I don't know if that's.
Joey Noel
No, I haven't either. I think with the habitat thing, I think that is more of, like, a tutorial thing where they're teaching you, like, how to do this at the beginning. And then you're moving them into houses. You can reuse those habitats and not have to build, like, 17 of the water or whatever.
Roger Piccorni
Okay.
Joey Noel
Like, that.
Roger Piccorni
That makes.
Greg Miller
I like it, too, as an inspiration person. Yeah. Where I'm not doing it, but I could see the idea of, like, all right, you want it to be fucking humid in here? Let's put a hot tub in. Building. I'm building something inside. That will then be the vibe for what you're doing.
Roger Piccorni
In the very beginning, I was like, I'm never building the house because, like, why would Bulbasaur want a house? You know what I mean? Like, why would the zoo want a house? Like, I can't put a fire inside this house. It's gonna burn down.
Greg Miller
I can't in line with it.
Joey Noel
It's gonna get so dry.
Greg Miller
Over on B.S. that's a blue sky, Tim. I put out the call for folks to share their stuff. Grimgraybeard shared one and said, this is my huge aviary for my bird Pokemon. Of course. Grimgraybeard is a kind of funny best friend. Live with us right now. Who super chatted as Mr. Grimmstone. It says, I am close to 100 hours into the game. I also am the one who sent the picture of the aviary. And again, I love of like, okay, cool. That's such another level of thinking where again, I'm like, I want cute house put down. Cute house. Put people in it. So they do the. And then be like, no, I want this house. And even when they're like, I love hanging out with whoever, I'm like, you would like to live with them. That is not in my purview right now.
Joey Noel
No, they already have a house. I appreciate it.
Greg Miller
I appreciate saying that. Get into this other hoffle I've thrown together. I'd like to jump in then to the one I got broken relic in there too. This is another BS Blue sky that got shared. This is. I like the caption on this one, is still a work in progress. Building a skyscraper house with a ladder inspired by the Snake Eater ladder moment. So as you can see, it might. If you looked at it, like, why would we showcase this brick house? But when you see the giant ladder going to the giant platform above, I'm like, all right, that's cool. I like what you're working on. I like what you're working on there. This comes back to something you mentioned by accident, Roger. All right. But Bander SN super chats in. Has anyone tried mouse mode? It's a game changer. Has anybody used mouse mode here?
Joey Noel
I'm a handheld girl.
Greg Miller
I started using mouse mode on the plane back, and I was like, oh, no. Like, this is so. Aw. Because you don't. So mouse mode, of course, you know, you flip the thing over, you're going. But you know when you're playing the game naturally and you're trying to destroy a bunch of blocks above your head, you look like three up. And then it stops. You can't look beyond that with this one. You can just go, da, da, da, da, da, da. And just destroy all those. So when I was trying to connect my areas in that first area and smash through, I was like, oh, Mouse mode is such a game changer as Banda rights in. I've smashed through all this stuff to be done with it.
Roger Piccorni
Okay.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah. Very pretty.
Roger Piccorni
That's pretty sick.
Greg Miller
You have to. You could stick around, but it's gonna
Joey Noel
be so much more efficient.
Greg Miller
Very true.
Roger Piccorni
I mean, talk about the things that Animal Crossing doesn't have, right? You know what I mean? Like that, that was the one of the big update where I was like, oh man, they're gonna totally do it. They're gonna have like Builder Pro where, you know, my fiance can finally get out from underneath how Animal Crossing has built this and she can actually do. No, they would never do that. So it's nice that Booktopia just has this and so many quality of life improvements.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are there things you're playing right now, Jenny, as you play through this? And I want everybody that you go, oh man, this could be better. Are there things that stand out of like, we're giving it so much praise because it deserves it. But even with me in mouse mode, right where it's like, okay, I'm smashing blocks, it'd be way better to be able to click and drag, like just eat up all these, you know, kill
Joey Noel
into like a full edit mode.
Jenny Windham
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that would be so nice. Honestly, my biggest kryptonite right now is the organization. Mostly because I have done such a poor job and I think it would be nice if there was something a little bit more unifying beyond just the region of putting the stuff in your. I use my house actually as my home base and that way I can always teleport. But outside of that building, it's kind of like no man's land. And who, who knows what's out there? It's just all in boxes. So I would love for organizational stuff to be different. I think like the thing I noticed the most is like Onyx is getting stuck in different wonky spots for me, but there isn't really too much other than that. I've heard like load times, but for me, I've actually appreciated some of the load times especially going on gets a little bit longer, but I realize I don't look up from the screen. So I'm like, I'm like, those load times are actually my stand up and let's take a quick stretch break.
Greg Miller
It's just water.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Jenny Windham
This is actually like wellness check.
Joey Noel
Yeah. My criticism is also the storage thing of like there's the hacks of you can put the storage bins touching the bench and then pull stuff out of There, but.
Greg Miller
But I was really. That's one of my goals when I was playing through is I really hope by the end it would be the. Here's the storage that connect. Here's a. Here's a. Here's a MacGuffin. Yeah. Connects everything. So it isn't. I need. I need clay, even though it's never a problem, but I need. And I know I have it in whatever bit and I go area to area to area looking for it, trying to.
Joey Noel
I also wish that there was a better way to like, dispose of items. And I understand why you wouldn't necessarily want that, but, like, I don't want 17 chests full of like, the volcanic ash and stuff like that. And I don't know, like, sure, I could put it somewhere dumb that I never have to think about it, but I wish that I could just get rid of stuff that I didn't need. Especially when it's like, the environment.
Greg Miller
Sure.
Joey Noel
Breaking down stuff.
Greg Miller
Roger.
Roger Piccorni
I have a lot of little things with the habitats and like, trying to figure out where my Pokemon are and like, which because, like, they overlap so much. For me, at least in this, you know, very beginning part of the game where it's like, you know, Pidgey is right next to Char Charmander, right next to this, right. And then like pressing the right stick, it just shows you this big square where it's like, oh, I just wanted a little icon above where they live because that's his house, clearly. So just. Why don't you just put a little. Little icon that you have in the corner? Just put it right there. And then also, like, little things. Like last time I was playing and I forget why, but I was talking to, I think Bulbasaur and I needed to know something about his habitat or something like that. Or I was. Whatever. And it's like, oh, there should totally be a. Like, I should be able to press, you know, back or whatever, some button to just pull up that person's pokey decks so I could just actually see what they need and see where their vibes are, where they are or what their habitat is. Little quality of life things. And like, also the ui, I don't love the UI of looking through my habitats and seeing like, okay, well, it's grayed out. That means I never got any version of this habit. Like, I haven't gotten any Pokemon. I haven't even attempted to make that habitat. Okay. But then it's. It just is not green. So that means I haven't gotten all of them.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Roger Piccorni
Like, you know what I mean, like, I want a yellow almost instead of just having like that weird in between where it's gray. Like, I just want like a yellow. Like, hey, you started doing this, right? Like, like there's little.
Joey Noel
Isn't that just that when it becomes color.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, but like it's just. For me, it's just like not enough. Like, I, I, when I associate gray, I associate. Like, I haven't done it before. It's like. No, you have done.
Greg Miller
Someone move your microphone around. Barrett's saying something.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah, Joe, if you could put your
Greg Miller
microphone on your desk. Yeah, we're getting some weird feedback there,
Roger Piccorni
but yeah, just little UI things that I. Especially when it comes to the habitats that I'm just, I'm not loving. But it's not, it's not deal breaker. I can also talk to the Pokemon and be like, hey, here's where I live and just walks over you.
Joey Noel
Yeah, I actually really like that system. I also am very appreciative of how good they are at giving you all the information you need so you don't have to look stuff up of like, oh, this is the quest, this is the Pokemon, this is the habitat. You press X, it gives you all the items you need. And all of that stuff. I was like, oh, this. You just made it so much easier to where I'm not like having to talk to them, to hunt them down to figure out what the thing was. It's like all very accessible.
Greg Miller
I'll be interested to see, you know, obviously we just did on Games Daily, the announcement of this bug patch they're pushing through, yada yada. Obviously we already have our first event going on. There's support for this game and I'll be interested to see how it evolves over the next six months. Because I do feel like what you're talking about being able to track this being a little bit more specific storage solutions, these are all things that you would imagine are going to get patched in some regard because it seems no brainer that you would want that there. And I don't think it takes away the, you know, the. I've seen so many, like what I would call dream builds online of how people are doing storage, where they're making the different signs to be like, all right, this is where I'm putting my berries and my building materials. I saw one today that I didn't thought about where they were stacking the crates, three tall and two over, so that they had like an archive in there, like a library that they just went through and they could access them all that way. I was like, damn, that's really smart too. Like, I'm about that life. But again, I know it will just be the ugliest shit of all time when I start doing it. So I know I need to. I have so many to do's inside of Pacopia. Like, I'm eventually going to get my area to this thing, but when will I ever actually do it? Who knows?
Roger Piccorni
Yeah. It's nice to play a game that is published by Nintendo that is a cozy game that has all these things that we want changed that we're like, oh, there's a huge possibility that they're going to change it. Right. Like, it's like Animal Crossing. It was like, oh, there's the hope. And it's like, ooh, six months later. It's like, where are the updates? Oh, it's the final update. Ah, shit. Like that. That's. It's exciting and hopeful that we get expansions. We get big things coming out for this. I hope that Nintendo doesn't look at them and say, you're working up a Copia 2 right now. You better stop. We made way too much money. You better stop right now. Updating this video game.
Joey Noel
This is ongoing, that they're doing like the events and stuff right now so early after launch.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Joey Noel
Gives me like a lot of hope that they're gonna put a lot of.
Roger Piccorni
And there's always Pokemon content. Right. You know, there's new games, there's new, you know, anime, all that jazz.
Greg Miller
And that's the thing. Yeah. Pokemon in general, like, they're so good about supporting all their games. Games throughout that I'd be like, yeah, for sure. You're gonna see stuff come and go for this one.
Joey Noel
Pokemon Go, Potopia tie in something like that. Yeah.
Greg Miller
Let alone all these Dittos in the Nintendo store.
Joey Noel
Oh, did you go.
Greg Miller
I did.
Roger Piccorni
Oh, they have a bunch.
Greg Miller
Yeah. Oh, yeah, they have for a whole. Yeah, it's. It's the thing where, especially after credits, my deal is. No, no, I love Ditto. Like I. I said, I was talking to Jessica on this where she's like, hey, that we're gonna get a restock. And I'm like, listen, I. Ditto doesn't need to put on a face for me like what we've just gone through. I love Ditto. I don't need to worry about anything on that end or whatever. I want to jump into a bunch of different super chats here and I see one that we will start with. Let me just get it all prepped here. Phantom. Phantom's Tempest 4001 says Tim said on Pokemon Presents he wouldn't be playing this now that it's a huge hit. Has that changed? I love the mainline games and feel similar. We will call Tim Gettys.
Joey Noel
I'm going to say no. This is, like, not a Tim.
Greg Miller
I think he'll jump in, but I think he's going to try it.
Roger Piccorni
He'll buy it physically.
Joey Noel
Gia, on the other.
Greg Miller
Tim, it's Greg. You're live on the kind of funny gamescast. How are you? Good.
Tim Gettys
What's up, everybody? I was watching for the first half of the show. Y' all are doing great.
Greg Miller
Thank you. You want to say hi to Jenny?
Tim Gettys
Hi, Jenny.
Greg Miller
Thank you.
Jenny Windham
Hi.
Greg Miller
We have a super chat from Phantoms. He says Tim said on the Pokemon Presents that he wouldn't be playing Pocopia now that it's a huge hit. Has that changed? I love the mainline games and feel similar.
Tim Gettys
You know, it hasn't changed. I do have fomo.
Greg Miller
Okay.
Tim Gettys
And all of the. The Kanto kind of spoilery stuff is very enticing to me, but I'm just. I'm not into the, like, you know, crafty stuff. Yeah, like, you put crafty in games. I don't like it. Well, that's the point of the game. I don't know. I don't know.
Roger Piccorni
It.
Tim Gettys
Being successful doesn't really do much for me. I'm excited that more people act kind of funny, are like. Like, into Pokemon as much as they are. Like, getting Roger and Joey is huge.
Joey Noel
Huge.
Tim Gettys
There was a moment that I thought that we had an extra code, and I was like, maybe I'll get this. Give this thing a shot. That didn't happen. So I'm like, all right. Am I really gonna go out and buy this game? The answer is yes.
Greg Miller
Yeah, I am gonna go buy this game, of course.
Tim Gettys
But that's just because I'm a broken person. But how much I put into it? Probably not much. I'm gonna be honest.
Joey Noel
Okay.
Greg Miller
Didn't I send you a code?
Tim Gettys
I don't think so.
Greg Miller
Okay. Joe. Joey raised her hand. Go, Joey. You go.
Joey Noel
Do you think that Gia is going to be into this?
Tim Gettys
She could be.
Joey Noel
This could be a Gia games right now. Yeah. She's got a lot going on.
Greg Miller
Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. Well, thank you so much, Tim.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Tim Gettys
I miss you guys.
Roger Piccorni
I miss you, Tim.
Joey Noel
Miss you.
Greg Miller
We miss you. Kind of. I mean, you know, me and Nick were just talking about how great it
Roger Piccorni
is, but we drank beers today.
Greg Miller
We had three beers. Three beers. Me and Roger at Three Beers 316.
Tim Gettys
I watch games daily.
Greg Miller
Oh, okay.
Joey Noel
Okay.
Greg Miller
Don't worry about that kind of funny podcast part.
Tim Gettys
Now here's an important thing. I know I can't take up too much time on air for this, but because of the FOMO of Pokemon, everyone's playing Fire Red. Right. And everyone's playing Probia. I was like, I can't. I made it through a couple gyms in Fire Red. I'm like, I can't do this to myself. I do not need to play this game again. So of course I went back to Pokemon Violet.
Greg Miller
Okay, fair enough.
Tim Gettys
There's still things to do.
Greg Miller
Yeah.
Tim Gettys
I've been playing for so many hours just trying to like grind that final finish to get every single thing done and. Greg, I'm gonn have to talk to you. We're going to have to figure this out. I need to borrow your switch too.
Greg Miller
Sure.
Tim Gettys
For a couple hours. And I need to trade some things from Scarlet. It's a whole thing. I only have like five of these left. And I'll have the entire Pokedex dlc.
Greg Miller
We can make that happen. Tim, anything for you.
Tim Gettys
Appreciate it.
Greg Miller
All right, we'll talk to you later. Bye. What a nice young man. Yeah, but in that. In Tim's lane we have. I'm gonna say, well, see you say cigar. So I'll go gigar. Who writes in and says, damn, I feel like you're crazy person. This is super chat. This game is not pulling me in the way it is for literally everyone else. Hopefully it clicks for me soon. I am so well versed in the game. The talk of the town. It just not clicking with you. If it doesn't click, don't force it. There's like, you're not. If it isn't working, you're not gonna turn this corner. Be like, wait, now I fucking love it.
Joey Noel
Yeah, I feel like this is a pretty quick, you know, if you vibe with this or you don't because it's really just more of it as you keep going. It's not a huge change.
Greg Miller
Pyro says over 60 hours into Pocopia and loving the gameplay loop. Building isn't my strong suit, but having fun regardless. And I think that's the thing. You can be someone who's making the most amazing shit of all time, but you can also be throwing down just. Just a foundation in a door and be like, that's good enough for now. And then come back if you want to.
Roger Piccorni
For me, it's like not even like, like entering my mind, you know what I mean? Like as I'm. As you were showing me all this, I was like, I didn't even know that was like possible. I guess I thought in like the back of my head it's possible. But like as I'm playing and I'm like, I have so much to do. I have to keep all these fires from, you know, from, from taking over the entire village. Charmanders just burned down everything.
Greg Miller
He'll do it.
Roger Piccorni
Gotta stop playing a different game, everybody.
Greg Miller
Devon super chats and says went and bought a Switch 2 for my girlfriend and we have been playing non stop. We have about 45 to 50 hours in it. That's another one I've seen. I've enjoyed so many different date nights. I've seen of people switched up, two TVs up, ready to go, sharing the beautiful.
Joey Noel
Is Jen into this or not?
Jenny Windham
My friend?
Greg Miller
You know when I got a review code and Jen watched that night when she's like, I'm gonna be into this. But she has not made time. Granted it's been gdc which is so hectic. But I'll be interested to see between her pottery and other hobbies when she'd fit this in. But she still seems like it. She still seems gung ho. We do have it for her.
Jenny Windham
I was gonna say my friends, we did a Sunday Pacopia date yesterday where we just like went to this cute cafe, got snacks, played Pecopia and literally everyone coming in either talked about wanting Pecopia or was also playing. So it was so neat to see. Just like now.
Greg Miller
Did you play your own worlds or did you go do like a shared world thing?
Jenny Windham
We did both. So we started off and we were like doing our own dailies and kind of hanging out. And then it was my friends Jaz and Enna. They had been playing together on a cloud island already and so I came and became part of their cloud island. And so now we have have space together. So very exciting.
Greg Miller
A couple more super chats to close out the show here. Chrono Rig says my favorite part of Pocopi is seeing people that have never played a Pokemon game learn about some of the Pokemon lore like Cubone and his mom or Drift Lube.
Roger Piccorni
Lol.
Greg Miller
There's a lot going on in like the the art of Cubone and his mom. Things have been pretty incredible. Terrifying as always, but incredible. BG25800 said stores are pissed that they could not sell the physical copy to people already at the store to buy the console will Nintendo course correct. Absolutely not. I don't think you'll see Nintendo change how they do it. Because of course, they'd rather them buy them online. Yeah, they'd rather you go home and buy it there. So they'd have to share that money with Target and et cetera.
Joey Noel
But they can't. They did release a physical cop.
Greg Miller
They did, but it's been sold out in many, many places. Not the Nintendo store. You walk by, they got piles of them back there. They're ready, they're. They're taking you where you need to be. Neo. Neo. Aoshi writes in and says, thank you, Jenny, and Wholesome Games for supporting my charity drive for WCK last year. One of the things I would love to see improve in Popopia would be a way to track items. Yeah, we're on keeping track of what you want. But then, of course, yeah, shout out to Wholesome Games and Jenny. Yeah. Verm Deck says this is the first Pokemon game where I truly care about my Pokemon and feel like I have a bond with them. And I think that's an interesting angle on it as well. You both nod and going, Hm, for me, playing the games, there's the Pokemon who have wrote, you know, like, Altair Altaria, who I'm like, oh, man. Like, you saved my day. You're my first 100. You did this thing. Like, I have a connection there versus the connection I feel here to Ditto and the Professor. Like, that's a different level of Pokemon connection, of you're just not some stupid animal in a ball. Like, you have feelings and I need to take care of them.
Joey Noel
Yeah. Mine's just. I find a cute one and I decide that you are now my favorite.
Greg Miller
I appreciate that.
Joey Noel
I got the puppy with the cinnamon roll ears or something like that.
Greg Miller
Yeah. I don't know what any of these
Joey Noel
are called, but I'm really into.
Roger Piccorni
That's actually the official name. Yeah.
Jenny Windham
What's funny is when I was a kid, like, the thing that I wanted, like, I loved Pokemon. I started, you know, Red Blue way back in the day. And the only thing that I wished as a kid was, like, live with Pokemon. I wanted them to be real. And this is like, genuinely the closest we've gotten to just, like, hanging out and living with our Pokemon, which is great.
Greg Miller
Hell yeah. Roger. Hi, Joey.
Roger Piccorni
Yes.
Greg Miller
Myself and Jordan Midler gave this a 9 on the kind of funny scale. Are you at a point where you think you could review it and give it a score?
Roger Piccorni
No, not yet. I need to give me 30 hours more. I got it. I got you.
Greg Miller
Jenny, what about you? Do you have a score for this that you've been throwing around?
Jenny Windham
Yes, for me. And I guess because it's kind of Funny is the 10 point scale.
Greg Miller
We do that. We do 0.5s. If you want to talk to me,
Jenny Windham
you know, I, I love a good whole number. I want, I don't like to sit in the 05. So I, I would give it personally a 10 out of 10 for me.
Roger Piccorni
Even with you're already your first, everybody.
Joey Noel
Yeah.
Jenny Windham
For me, even the gripes that I have, those are such nitpicky things that haven't overtaken my enjoyment of the game overall. And for me, if I am returning to a game to this degree, like that is something to take note of. And I just. It's a 10 out of 10. This is honestly like front runner for goatee for me.
Greg Miller
Yeah, yeah, I know, me too. This is the top game of the year for me. Resident Evil below it, another fantastic game. But yeah, this game's awesome.
Roger Piccorni
It's gonna take a lot to beat Resident Evil for me. Greg, I'm gonna be completely honest.
Greg Miller
Sure, sure.
Roger Piccorni
It might be 30.
Greg Miller
What about a splinter cell?
Roger Piccorni
Yeah. 2029, 2030.
Greg Miller
Okay, fair enough, Fair enough. Jenny, where can people keep up with you? You've been a delight this episode. Thank you so much for making the time on short notice too.
Roger Piccorni
Yeah.
Jenny Windham
Oh my gosh, it's been a joy being here and hanging out with you all and all the best friends. Me personally, I'm Ennywindom on Instagram, I'm Kim chica. Everywhere else, YouTube, Twitch, all the places I know.
Greg Miller
I followed you for years.
Joey Noel
Hey.
Jenny Windham
And so yeah, you can find me online. Personally, I love to talk about indie games, all kinds. Not just like wholesome, cozy games. And then I also am part of Wholesome Games, the organization where we do shows and we publish games. You can find everything@wholesomegames.com shouting out. We have submissions open for Wholesome Direct 2026. So if you are a game dev and you want your game in a showcase this summertime, that's a great opportunity if it fits within sort of the general feel and co hosts as well. We always invite a group of creators to come and help announce the games during the show. And so if you are or know any content creators who you think would be great, applications are open or submissions are open.
Roger Piccorni
Awesome.
Greg Miller
Oh yeah. Ginny, thank you again so much for your time.
Jenny Windham
Yeah, thank you for having me, everybody.
Greg Miller
Thank you for your time. Of course this has been another episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast. Each and every weekday, no matter how many people call in sick, we're here with the biggest topics in video games, whether they be reviews, previews or just topics we need to talk about. If you like that, pick up a kinda funny membership patreon.com kinda funny YouTube.com kindafunnygames Apple or Spotify to get everything ad free. Get your daily dose of me in a series we call Greg Way and of course get good karma for supporting an 11 person 11 year old small business. Our programming day is far from done. Up next, it's the one, the only kind of feudy as we decide what what kinda Funny Games 2026 Game of the year will be. And after that, Nick is playing more Dispatch. Of course watch it live on Twitch or YouTube, but if you're listening later you can go to YouTube.com kindafunnunnames and podcast services around the globe. Until next time, it's been our pleasure to serve you.
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Episode Date: March 16, 2026
Hosts: Greg Miller, Joey Noel, Roger Piccorni
Special Guest: Jenny Windham (Wholesome Games)
This special episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast is all about reflecting on Pokemon Pokopia nearly two weeks after launch. The crew—joined by cozy games expert Jenny Windham—dives deep into why Pokopia is dominating Nintendo Switch 2 sales, how it stands apart from Animal Crossing and other builder games, shares hilarious personal stories, and evaluates what makes this Pokémon spinoff such a phenomenon. They also spotlight both the game’s strengths and nitpicky drawbacks, all while featuring community creations and favorite moments.
"Some places you can't get it physical. Amazon's raising the prices, then getting caught raising the prices, lowering the prices back to where they were." ([03:52])
"I have multiple people in my life that went out and bought Switch Twos because of the game and I did not think that this was going to be a system seller by any means." ([04:01])
The game is described as a blend of Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest Builders, offering both crafting and community but in a new Pokémon context.
Jenny Windham:
"Pokemon as a franchise for me sits on nostalgia so much...Pokemon as a franchise for me sits on nostalgia so much...But I am really gonna, like, I'm not gonna put all my eggs into this basket because I really don't wanna be disappointed. I was very just like, I'm not gonna think about it too hard." ([15:19])
After hours of play, Jenny calls it:
"Animal Crossing walked so that this game could truly run. The ways that they have polished a lot of the things that people have given feedback on over the years, the ways that it involves...all roads lead to Pokopia. It's just so good." ([16:48])
The hosts discuss how much deeper and more personalized Pokopia feels compared to ACNH, noting the variety and personality among Pokémon vs. Animal Crossing’s villagers ([18:20]).
Playtime Ranges:
Joey shares:
"All of my other hobbies have suffered greatly." ([10:11])
Roger, as a newcomer to cozy/building games, is adjusting:
"There is so much to do. And L is like a veteran of the harvest moons... So I. For me, I'm at this point now where I am dealing with all these systems and I am getting overwhelmed." ([08:39])
"When they start calling you by your name. It's just like the best feeling in the world." ([22:33])
"Bulbasaur has this adorable heart animation..." ([22:56])
"[Mouse mode] is such a game changer...when I was trying to connect my areas in that first area and smash through, I was like, oh, Mouse mode is such a game changer..." ([49:19])
The hosts showcase and praise community builds, influencer posts, and the explosion of creative, collaborative energy around Pokopia.
"I will look at these majestic builds and be awe inspired, awestruck...try to find one thing that I can copy." ([42:15])
Screenshots and IG/BlueSky posts are referenced as essential sources of inspiration for evolving builds ([43:09], [44:25]).
The crew admits to feeling outclassed by community builds and discusses their own construction triumphs and disasters.
"Especially after seeing what some players were doing, like literally 48 hours after this game launched in public." ([42:04])
Many admit to simply dropping prefab houses and moving on, as the item acquisition rate is slower and the scale daunting ([45:05]).
Habitat management, storage, and UI are universally highlighted as points for improvement.
Greg on turning the game into a work requirement:
"I have decided and started saying we should make Pokopia content for work." ([31:41])
On ADHD and side-quests:
"This game, unfortunately, is, like, really good and really bad for anybody that has ADHD because there's 17,000 things to do, and I never remember what I was doing right before it." (Joey, [24:38])
On game length and replay:
"At the end of the year, it's going to be 300 hours on the clock for me, where it's like in between everything popping back, in between reviews, popping on a plane, whatever, you know, I have downtime and it's going to be that." (Greg, [30:36])
On Pokémon bonds:
"This is the first Pokémon game where I truly care about my Pokémon and feel like I have a bond with them." (Community, [64:41])
"Even the gripes that I have, those are such nitpicky things that haven't overtaken my enjoyment of the game overall." ([65:54])
Pokopia isn’t just a new Pokémon spinoff—it’s a defining cozy game for the Switch 2 era, and a new classic in the making. Whether you’re a creative builder, a Pokemon diehard, or just someone looking for joyful community, this episode is brimming with love for the game, meaningful discussion, and plenty of laughs.
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Next up: Kind of Feudy and more content—watch live or catch up on YouTube/podcast services.
Until next time: “It’s been our pleasure to serve you.”