Reacting to Rolling Stone's Top 50 Games - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: Reacting to Rolling Stone's Top 50 Games

Release Date: January 9, 2025
Hosts: Tim Gettys, Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Blessing Adeoye, and Andy Cortez
Duration: Approximately 112 minutes
Transcript Provided: Full conversation transcript from [00:00] to [112:08]

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1. Introduction and Casual Banter (00:00 - 09:16)

The episode kicks off with Blessing Adeoye (A) and Greg Miller (B) engaging in their typical friendly banter. Blessing introduces the show and hints at discussing indie games and their personal gaming habits for the year 2025.

• Blessing (00:00): Welcomes listeners and introduces co-host Mike, playfully suggesting Blessing is in charge of the show’s schedule.
• Greg (00:18): Responds with enthusiasm about being back on another episode.

They briefly discuss their routines, including how Blessing prefers staying active and avoiding downtime, while Greg mentions his ongoing playthrough of "Half Life."

2. Discussion on "Mouthwashing" (01:10 - 04:11)

Blessing brings up his experience with the indie game "Mouthwashing," sharing his motivations to explore more indie titles for the year.

• Blessing (01:10): Talks about finishing "Mouthwashing" to be a "tastemaker" akin to Roger McCormick.
• Greg (02:55): Supports Blessing's emotional investment, noting the game's depth and artistic elements, despite mixed personal feelings.

They agree that "Mouthwashing" is worth recommending for its emotional and artistic impact, acknowledging that some might find its trippy visuals and looping world disorienting.

3. Introducing Rolling Stone's Top 50 Games List (09:16 - 25:17)

The conversation transitions to Rolling Stone's recent release of their "Top 50 Greatest Video Games of All Time." Blessing and Greg express excitement about reacting to the list, anticipating the diversity and iconic nature of the selected games.

• Blessing (09:16): Announces Rolling Stone's list and sets the stage for their reactions.
• Greg (09:38): Shares initial thoughts, mentioning classic franchises like Grand Theft Auto, Final Fantasy, Half-Life, and Zelda.

They acknowledge the challenge of covering such a broad and influential list, anticipating debates over the placement of beloved titles.

4. Reacting to the Top 50 List (25:17 - 100:50)

Blessing and Greg systematically go through the Rolling Stone list from positions 50 to 1, sharing their thoughts, disagreements, and appreciations for each game. Highlights include:

• Animal Crossing: New Horizons (50): Both hosts give a thumbs up, noting its massive impact, especially during the pandemic.

  Greg (25:58): "Fortnite should be way higher on the list."

• Hades (49): Excitement over seeing a strong indie title like "Hades" on the list.

  Blessing (26:37): "If you're making a top 100, like, I think Hades would probably land somewhere."

• Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (48): Agree on its iconic status and influence on the Metroidvania genre.

  Blessing (27:30): "One of the OGs."

• Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (47): Surprise at its lower placement, expecting it to be higher due to its foundational impact.

  Andy Cortez (27:44): "Way too low. That's low, dude."

• League of Legends (46): Applauded for its enduring popularity and influence in the MOBA genre.

  Greg (31:28): "It is the most simple game anyone can understand it."

• Fortnite (45): Mixed feelings; while acknowledging its immense cultural impact, Blessing feels it deserves a higher ranking.

  Blessing (32:41): "But to be on the list... it is a game that changed the culture."

• Metroid Prime (41): Appreciation for its quality and anticipation for its sequel.

  Greg (38:20): "It's crazy that this game is so good that people now like, we're waiting for the new Metroid."

• Mario Kart 64 (30): Nostalgia and love for the classic racing game, though some debate its placement over newer iterations.

  Blessing (75:12): "Mario Kart 64 is the OG Kart racer."

• God of War 2018 (40): Acknowledged for its storytelling and gameplay, though Blessing questions why "God of War Ragnarok" isn't featured.

  Greg (43:42): "Batman Arkham City was the blueprint for every superhero game."

• Baldur's Gate 3 (19): Excitement over its inclusion, recognizing its profound impact on modern RPGs.

  Greg (73:21): "There’s so much fun in Legacy of the Sword."

Throughout the reactions, hosts frequently reference their personal experiences, favorite moments, and how these games influenced the industry and their own gaming journeys. They also interact with audience super chats, incorporating listener opinions and debates into the conversation.

5. Audience Interaction and Super Chats (25:17 - 108:00)

Listeners actively participate via super chats, expressing agreements and disagreements with the hosts' placements of games. Notable interactions include:

• Super Chat (78:14): "Age of Empires 2 and StarCraft should be on the list due to their impact."

  Greg: "Have to have it… Impact what it did."

• Super Chat (87:04): "Portal should be in the top 10."

  Blessing (87:08): "Portal is insane."

• Super Chat (91:14): "Half-Life should top the list."

  Blessing (93:18): "Half Life definitely had game design impact."

• Super Chat (102:52): "Fortnite should be in the top 20 for its cultural impact."

  Greg (102:52): "Fortnite is changing fundamentally video games."

These interactions highlight the wide range of opinions among the audience, with some advocating for classic titles like "StarCraft," "Portal," and "Half-Life," while others push for modern influences like "Fortnite."

6. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up (108:00 - 112:08)

As the hosts approach the end of the episode, they reflect on the overall strength of Rolling Stone's list, acknowledging both its inclusions and notable omissions.

• Blessing (99:21): "This is a fantastic list overall. Great list even."

They discuss potential areas of disagreement, such as the placement of "Mario Kart 64" versus newer entries, and whether certain influential titles like "Assassin's Creed" or "Minecraft" deserved higher spots.

• Greg (100:50): "Any games that are missing on this list? Let us know in the comments."

The episode concludes with light-hearted interactions, playful teasing among hosts, and final shout-outs to super chat contributors. They encourage listeners to engage further by suggesting their own lists or discussing their favorite games.

• Blessing (112:08): "Till next time. It's been our pleasure to serve you."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Blessing (02:55): "You got to get that emotion out."
• Greg (09:38): "We love reacting to some shitless."
• Andy (27:44): "Way too low. That's low, dude."
• Blessing (32:41): "But to be on the list... it is a game that changed the culture."
• Greg (102:52): "Fortnite is changing fundamentally video games."
• Blessing (75:12): "Mario Kart 64 is the OG Kart racer."
• Greg (73:21): "There’s so much fun in Legacy of the Sword."

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Key Insights and Conclusions:

• Diversity of Opinions: Hosts showcase a balance between classic and modern games, reflecting both nostalgia and current trends.
• Cultural Impact vs. Gameplay Quality: The discussion often revolves around whether a game's influence on the industry and culture justifies its placement over purely gameplay-centric titles.
• Audience Engagement: Active participation from listeners provides a multifaceted perspective, enhancing the depth of the conversation.
• Rolling Stone's Curation: While generally praised for its inclusions, the list sparks debates on the omission or placement of certain beloved titles, indicating the subjective nature of ranking games.

Overall, the episode offers an engaging exploration of what constitutes greatness in video games, balancing historical significance with personal experiences and evolving gaming landscapes.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Yo, what's up? Welcome to the kind of funny Games cast for Thursday, January 9th, 2025. I'm one of your host blessing. Adio. Yeah, Junior. Joining me is the master of hype, Snowbike, Mike Bless.

[B]

What up, big dog? Good to see you again. Welcome back. Thanks for having me on another gamescast with you. I always love doing these.

[A]

Of course. I mean, thanks for having me on another game scouts with you, Mike. You know, you act like I'm in charge of this. You act like I'm the one that makes the GamesCat schedule.

[B]

We're together now. We're gonna have Bless. We're back at it again. It's Thursday, halfway through the first week of 2025.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Crazy to think about that.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I'm feeling good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good.

[A]

You've been getting a good start to the year.

[B]

Yeah, my, you know, my ass is in grind mode, so I'm trying my best not to be horizontal ever. You know, usually I'd come home, you know, you lay down for a minute, start scrolling tick tock. And the moment I get horizontal.

[A]

I had a fight yesterday because yesterday, like, I ate dinner and I knew I wanted to finish mouthwashing because, like, yesterday was one of my free evenings where legitimately, like, I could have made plans, but I was like, you know what, man? It's rare that I just leave an evening for you. I'm either going to the gym, I'm either playing a sport. I'm hanging out with a friend.

[B]

He's a busy man.

[A]

Yeah, busy man. And yesterday was a free evening. And I told myself this year I wanted to play more indie games. I wanted to roll more credits.

[B]

Yeah. I heard you say that you want to be the tastemaker. I like that.

[A]

Yeah. I want to be like Roger McCormick. I want to be the tastemaker. And so I went back and I finished mouthwashing.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Very evocative game. Very, like, a lot happening, an artistic touch.

[B]

Do you recommend that to our audience? Because of course, I played it as well. You and I have both now completed in the same week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where do you fall on that?

[A]

I.

[B]

You use some special words there, which I like.

[A]

I. Here's the thing. I. I look at it, I play finish that game and I acknowledge that. Like, I think they did a lot of stuff where I'm like, oh, that's art right there. Like, y'all made something. I'll put your foot in this. I don't know if I loved it. Like, I finished that game and I Was kind of like, I don't like the feelings I felt, which oftentimes art does, and I don't think that's inherently bad. Yeah, I'm okay with art not making me feel good, but I think my issues with it is I am not the biggest fan of when shit gets trippy and stays trippy for too long, where it's like, all right, you guys are telling a story, but, like, now it feels like you're just throwing, like, visuals and, like, sensations at me that I don't want to say the lack substance, because I understand where it's hard to talk about a game without getting into school, but I understand what you're. What you're saying and, like, the story that you're telling me and why you're doing these things. But when I'm spending what feels like most of the game just, like, going in circles, and the world's, you know, changing around me, and shit's weird, man. Like, you start to lose me a bit. That, plus, like, I don't know, there's something thematically I didn't tweet, but I blew sky to this. Of, like, man, could have gone to therapy, but instead I made a video game. Here's what it feels like.

[B]

You got to get that emotion out. Is right.

[A]

But would I recommend it? I think I still would recommend it. I think if you're two and a half hours.

[B]

Yeah, you could finish it in one sitting. You could break it up into two nights. It's got some. It's got something there.

[A]

If you want to feel something, if you want to experience something, definitely. I would say, check it out. You might come out of it.

[B]

Loving it feeling. Yeah, I left it feeling kind of grimy, kind of gross.

[A]

Kind of gross.

[B]

Not happy. You know what I mean? Especially because there were some things that, like, are answered, but kind of, like not answered super clearly so you can lead to your own. And it's like, oh, I don't like where that kind of went right there. And I don't know where we were on that one, you know? So, yeah, I feel that the game.

[A]

Feels like somebody needs to get something out of their system. Like, whoever made that game, whoever wrote it and developed it, they're like, I got some. That I'm working through. And, like, I could go to therapy. Therapy. I'm making a video game. But you know what? I would recommend it, though, if you're some. If you're somebody who's willing to, like, experience some dark. Yeah, it is like, it's a horror game. It is a game that I think has a lot to say. And part of what it has to say, I think is, like, good, right? Like, it is. I don't. I won't go into what it is thematically, but it's touching on things where it's like, oh, this is like some deep shit. And, like, you're working through it. So if you want to play, like, I'll say a kind of a therapy game. Somebody's working through some shit in the video game. Yeah, Mouthwashing. I'd say give it a. Give it a look.

[B]

Okay, good. And then of course, on top of that, the start of 2025. How you feeling?

[A]

I'm feeling good. I mean, there's not much to report on. It's the ninth, but yeah, not bad. Chilling. You know, we got Game of the Year next week. It's gonna be exciting.

[B]

Very exciting stuff.

[A]

Very exciting stuff.

[B]

I have some. I have some stuff with us to talk about for the Tots, of course. You know, for me to kick off the new year, I had to maybe write a wrong or I had to at least do some investigative work because last time we did a shit list, we really talked a lot of. On the Half Life crowbar.

[A]

You talked a lot.

[B]

I had a job.

[A]

You talked a lot of.

[B]

And you know what? Bless. You know what?

[A]

Bless.

[B]

I give a little more respect to it, but it's not a top eight weapon.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So it's still on the list.

[A]

Wow. You're playing Half Life last night.

[B]

I'm playing Half Life right now.

[A]

Has this been an ongoing thing? Have you been playing Half Life for a while?

[B]

No, this is part three of my playthrough. So just really this week to start off the new year, looking for things to play. I'm kind of like Greg right now, and I'm sure all of you out there, it's like, what's the new thing to play? Oh, wait, there's nothing new. So what should I be playing right now? What's going to grab me? And I've always wanted to play Half Life. I know you and Andy have talked about doing it on stream, but we've been waiting For Half Life 2 remix mix, mix, mix with the super Nvidia stuff. So it's like, well, I should probably play Half Life one so I can get ahead of it. Know a little bit more.

[C]

I respect that you're getting ready for Half Life 3 this year, Mike.

[B]

Yeah. And so I'm on.

[A]

I mean, well, I still got to play HalfLife 1. What's the HalfLife, Black Mesa, I believe. See, that's what I want to play.

[B]

Yo. Bless. You should play this game.

[A]

I know I should.

[B]

This game rocks. Bless that game. You know when we talk about tots here, will it be on the list?

[A]

Let's get into it. Remember, this is Kind of Funny Games Cast each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games live on YouTube, Twitch and on podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the Kind of Funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show and for a chance be a part of the show some of your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. Housekeeping for you. Thanks to the overwhelming generosity from the community, we have a new batch of gifted Patreon memberships going up on Saturday at 9:00am Pacific Time on Kind of Funny Patreon page. To be able to see the post, create a Patreon account and click the Join for free button on patreon.com kind of funny. If you would like to add to the list, you can send gifted membership links to support at kind of funny.com to be included in Saturday's post. Remember, we're an 11 person business all about live talk shows. KD was about Assassin's Creed Shadows getting delayed again. Right now is the games cast and after this is the stream and it's going to be some of that Marvel Rivals. Maybe more with me, Mike Stella.

[B]

Maybe more. Maybe more. We just can't get enough.

[A]

Just can't get enough.

[B]

Can't get enough. New season starts technically tonight but really we'll just call it tomorrow. For those listening out there. Four new characters, three new maps.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Bless this team. This team is getting after Overwatch. They said we're coming for the throne, dude.

[A]

They they're for real Coming for the for the throne and like to the to the point where I'm not checked the concurrence I need to see. But like what are what is the vibe right now? Like are we giving the crown to Marvel Rivals right now already?

[B]

I think.

[A]

Are they higher right now?

[B]

They might have taken the crown.

[A]

Have they taken the crown?

[B]

I think it's that kind of vibe right now.

[A]

We'll keep an eye on Marvel Rivals.

[B]

It's that kind of vibe.

[A]

If you're a Kind of Funny member, you get it. Today's Greg Way where Greg has a three way. Thank you to our Patreon producers. That's what it says. I didn't write this. Greg wrote this. Oh, Barry. These are the Steam charts. So Marvel Rivals, what in the 24 hour peak has had 4, 445,000 players. Right now you have 309,000.

[B]

That's solid.

[A]

The thing that sucks is that like you can't. I don't think you can get accurate numbers for Overwatch really. Right. Because like the battle, most people are playing on battle now.

[B]

And also like we're not accounting for console as well. So that's a lot. You know what I mean? But when we go to the 2025 snow. Mike. Mike. And blessing at EOA Jr. Keep an eye on. It's Call of duty Black Ops 6 sales numbers. It's Marvel Rivals. Where is the engagement three months and six months from now and Xbox third party titles Game Pass. Those are our big three on our list right now.

[A]

All right, fair enough. Also for me and Greg because I want, I want to keep Greg honest about this. I don't think people remember this pizza bed, but I do. It was only like a month ago where Greg said that every Xbox game is going to have a earlier version. Like a play. Like play on, play earlier. Like pay more money to play earlier, essentially.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Special edition type 5. Right. Greg was saying that like every first party Xbox game is going to have that. I'm saying no this year.

[B]

Every single one.

[A]

That's what he thinks. Yeah, it was. I don't know if that was like an in the moment thing because sometimes you say things in the moment where later on you're like, no, I didn't mean that. But he did say it.

[C]

When things get hot and heavy, keep.

[A]

In mind you say some wild things. Sometimes you draft Mario as a counter pick. You know what I mean?

[C]

So dumb of you.

[A]

Thank you to our. It was. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Delaney Twining and Carl Jacobs. Today we're brought to you by Rocket Money. But we, we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Mike. The number one thing I've seen in my mentions.

[B]

Let me know.

[A]

This week has been Rolling Stone. They put up a list of the top 50 greatest video games of all time. Top 50 top 50 greatest games of all time. And everybody's my mentions. Like, bless, bless. Shit list, shit list. You and Mike, you got to react because I don't know if you realize this. Me and you become the react guys.

[B]

We love reacting to some shitless.

[A]

We become like the new shitless folks. We gotta get Tim, like, rest in peace, Tim Gettys.

[B]

Tim should be here.

[A]

That's the thing.

[B]

He's working.

[A]

He's.

[B]

He's so busy though.

[A]

He's working and we gotta. I feel. I feel like we haven't tested out yet. The trio. Like me, you and Tim.

[B]

I think he would balance us out because you and I, we come from the same era, we get the same vibes. So I think Tim's kind of that middle ground of like he might balance us out, but then we can beat up on him.

[A]

Me and you are from the same. We're from the same era. Tim Gettys, I'm pretty sure is between both of us in age.

[C]

Yeah, he is.

[B]

Tim's technically the exact same age, but there's a vibe. There's a vibe. Tim.

[A]

Why do you look at Tim like he's 40 years old? Tim is like three years older than me. This is the reason.

[C]

Cuz he's like an actual adult.

[B]

Yeah, Tim's an adult. My child. Grandchild.

[A]

That's hilarious that we're like all Tim. Different generation, but that man at all. We don't talk about this enough.

[B]

Tim, yes.

[A]

Practically my age. Tim is only a few years older than me.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

But it feels like we're decades apart for some.

[B]

It feels like he's like Nick's age, but he's not.

[A]

It really does.

[B]

That's the. That's the thing. It's like you don't see behind the scenes.

[C]

It's really.

[A]

Because he's just.

[C]

He's been around for a while, you know, because he's.

[B]

Businessman.

[A]

Yeah, he is.

[B]

Come play on a stream. Come talk about Kevin wiping his ass with us. You know what I mean?

[A]

He doesn't want to talk about Kevin wiping his ass.

[B]

Exactly. Or not wiping his ass. Tune into the content to find out.

[A]

Oh, Barry, you missed the stream yesterday. Kevin, we gotta call it out. Habitual line stepper. Habitual line stepper. This man.

[B]

Kevin takes it there and then takes it one step over.

[A]

Like, he'll take whatever you say, elevate it to a point where it's like, oh, man, I try to stop before we get there, but Kevin will take it there. That's why. That's why we employ. That's why you put a microphone in front of him so he can say these things.

[B]

Let him cook up. Let him say some things.

[A]

Let him cook. All right. We're doing a shit list if you don't know. Shit list. I go online I find a top 10 list, I bring it back to the crew and react for your enjoyment. This time, it is a top 50 list. The top 50 greatest video games of all time from Rolling Stone. Of course, the streets have been enjoying us reacting to the top 100 PlayStation list from IGN. We did the every game of the year ranked list for a shit list on the last week of content last year. So we're back at it like a bad habit. Mike, before we get into this list, when I say top 50 greatest video games of all time, what comes to mind?

[B]

Man, you got to go deep into it, right? I think of a Grand Theft Auto, but which one or how many? I think of a Final Fantasy has got to be up on this. I think of, you know, great games like a Half Life or a Portal got to be on this list. I think a Halo needs to be here, a Gears of War needs to be here, A Red Dead probably has to be here. You know, you start throwing things out there and you get excited, right? Because then you got to go into Nintendo's bag. How many tricks do they got in the bag? A lot of them. You know, it's gonna be a good time.

[A]

So you say gta. You give me a lot of franchises, but not necessarily interesting.

[B]

Like, how many GTAs? Three.

[C]

I think one.

[A]

I think at least one.

[B]

I think two. I'm gonna say two. I think you get two. GTA.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm also gonna say two.

[B]

You get two, because I think.

[A]

I think you get a PlayStation 2, GTA, you get a three.

[B]

Or a San Andreas or Vice City five.

[A]

Like, I think is. I think any of those three. Yeah, and you get one of those three. And then you also get five. Yeah, you said just Final Fantasy. I'm gonna say seven.

[B]

Seven.

[A]

I think seven is the pick.

[B]

I think seven's the popular.

[A]

It's either seven, or if they're nerdy about it, I get maybe six. Because I think six is also very beloved.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Also, I should note that I believe this is Rolling Stone staff. When you check the page, it just says By Rolling Stone.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it just says by Rolling Stone.

[B]

Keep going. What else?

[A]

So you said Half Life. You thinking Half Life 2.

[B]

I think Half Life 2 will be on this.

[A]

You said Portal. You think Portal 1 or 2 will be on this? Portal 2. You said Halo. Which Halo?

[B]

Halo 3 will be on this.

[A]

It's a smart. No, you said Gears of War. I don't know if I view Gears of War as a top.

[B]

I think Gears 1 will be on this. Wow. I'm going put Gears 1 on this.

[A]

I respect it. You said Red Dead 2. Red Dead 2.

[B]

Yeah. I think Red Dead.

[C]

I think it'll be Red Dead one.

[B]

Red Dead one.

[A]

I can see it going either way. Yeah.

[B]

Then we got the audience, of course, coming in here. You have games like a Mass Effect.

[A]

Mass Effect 2.

[B]

Yeah. You have a game like Zelda.

[A]

Yeah. I was gonna say. Let me. Let me come in with some of mine. Right. Because if I just think off the top of my head, Zelda, Breath of the Wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And don't correct me because of how I say breath. I'm sorry, guys. Zelda, Breath of the Wild. I'm gonna throw in there. Elden Ring also should know this is a new list. This list came out in the last couple weeks.

[B]

Last couple weeks.

[A]

Even invoking Elden Ring brings up questions of, like, other souls from software guts. They have everybody in a chokehold right now.

[B]

They got them in a chokehold.

[A]

See, I'll say bloodborne.

[C]

I just thinking about the context of Rolling Stone, right? Like, are they getting super nerdy with it? Are they getting super in the ways? And I'm not saying bloodborne is, like, a super niche thing. Right. But, like, I do wonder, do they think past fromsoft when they already put down Elden Ring? You know, I feel you.

[B]

Yeah. I feel good on that.

[A]

Well, Mario, you know what I mean? Mario Brothers, either Super Mario is. Mario's my new thing.

[B]

I like that. I like this.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

I'm okay with this. I'm okay with it.

[A]

Either Super Mario World.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or Mario Brothers 3.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And. Or Mario 64.

[C]

Galaxy.

[B]

I think Galaxy had a chokehold on, like, 64.

[A]

Well, that's the tough thing, is that when you talk about the Mario Brothers, pretty much any mainline entry outside of Sunshine is on the table. And beyond the table, every Mario entry is on it.

[B]

You know what I mean? You got so many of them too.

[A]

I'm typing down Mario, tell me down some more. And this is, I think, where things start to get really more Witcher 3. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Some people have been saying Witcher 2. Witcher 3, I think, is high up on my possible list here. That's the fun stop. It's like Baldur's Gate 3 BG3. I like that. How about Skyrim? They make the last.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

Skyrim was. Was once on a refrigerator.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

You're not wrong.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. That is true. You know what I mean?

[B]

Where else do you get in here. Because there's a. There's.

[A]

I mean, what. Okay, so we've. We've visited Nintendo. Yeah. God of War. Yeah, I was gonna say we. I don't think we have a lot of PlayStation.

[B]

How about Crash?

[A]

No. Maybe. But I hope not.

[B]

No.

[A]

Crash.

[B]

Tetris.

[A]

People are saying, oh, yeah, Tetris. Oh, yeah. We got a Pac Man.

[B]

Pac Man. Dig Dug.

[A]

No, I love Dig Dug, though. Yeah. Mike, Street Fighter Exotica. Is that a real one?

[B]

Who's in World Exotica?

[A]

I don't think we're supposed to talk.

[B]

Are we getting arcade games?

[A]

I don't. I don't watch those kind of videos like Cruising World Exotica.

[C]

No, he's playing Cruising World on a different website.

[A]

I had another game. Now you just erased it from my brain.

[B]

What?

[A]

We said Tetris. We said Pac Man.

[C]

You said a fighting game, I think.

[A]

Oh, Street Fighter 2.

[B]

Street Fighter.

[A]

Super Street Fighter.

[B]

Yeah, like that. Mortal Kombat. Because now you start to get into, like, Rolling Stones. Probably gonna put one Fighter on this list. You would hope. Which one is that?

[A]

I think you. Street Fighter for Mortal Kombat. Yeah. I mean, now I'm thinking classic, right? Pokemon. You gotta have a Pokemon on here.

[B]

Pokemon. Oh, you gotta have a Pokemon.

[A]

I also like this. I want to shout out. I also like this because we're doing our top 100 games for. Kind of funny sometime this year. That was one of the promises at the beginning of the year. So this almost feels like a precursor to that.

[B]

Give you a highlight. Cruising Exotica is on my list.

[A]

Oh, it better not be.

[B]

Oh, World of Warcraft. Fortnite.

[A]

Yeah. People in chat are saying Fortnite.

[B]

Fortnite's definitely gonna be.

[C]

I think is another solid one as well. Mike. It was very fun when we went to the computer History museum, they had a whole section around World of Warcraft and they had the server of the Orig. World of Warcraft server. Like, physically there. I was like, oh, if Mike was here, he would have been flipping out.

[A]

Freaking now, thinking through what's on my list.

[B]

Yeah, tell me mellow.

[A]

You're solid. Three.

[B]

Three.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Three is my pick. They could probably pick either one or I guess one or three, I feel like would be the right picks. But I'm gonna say three.

[B]

I like that.

[C]

I could see some people choosing two. Yeah.

[A]

That's the thing is depending on who's. Who's on here, right?

[B]

It could be two, but we're just saying some. Metal Gear.

[A]

We got to see Metal Gear on here. Did we say the last of us.

[B]

Yet we haven't talked much Sony. There's a lot of Sony. From Uncharted to the Last of Us. I don't God of War.

[C]

I think we see enough.

[A]

This thing is when I. When I think of recent first party Sony, I'm going last of us, God of War. And I don't know how much deeper I'm going for a top 50. Right. I don't think I'm going Horizon for a top 50. I'm not going Ghost of Tsushima yet for top 50. Maybe with around this. No, no.

[B]

We're going way back. Right. Because like that's the tough part. We talk about top 50 all time.

[A]

Right.

[B]

There's recent. Then you got to go way back. That's why like you could get lost in this.

[A]

If we're going back, like this thing is. Is if we're. If we're treating every era like, oh, we got to get PS1 games in there. We gotta.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's how I think we get Meliary. Solid one. Okay. In Final Fantasy 7, like the original Final Fantasy 7.

[B]

Okay. Okay. You get a goldeneye. Like, are we going back?

[A]

You do get a golden eye.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Shouldn't be on there. But I respect it.

[A]

And we said. I think we said Zelda Breath of the Wild earlier on and just moved on. But like Ocarina.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And Link to the past. I see.

[C]

I'm of the mind of. Maybe it's like GTA where they only put two of them on here.

[A]

If you choose two Zeldas.

[C]

Which two are you just guessing? I think it would be Breath of the Wild in Ocarina.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

See? Pardon me.

[C]

I don't agree with it.

[A]

But that's just.

[C]

What again, if I'm guess if I'm.

[A]

In the room at Rolling Stone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I don't know what Rolling Stone is capable of. You know, that's, that's, that's the big X factor in all the fun part.

[C]

Are they on the gamer side of these lists?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, like where are they going?

[A]

Who's in that room at Rolling Stone putting together this list? But if I'm in a lot of.

[B]

Cool people mover and shakers.

[A]

Because here's the thing.

[B]

Rolling Stone, you're a mover and shaker. You're a trendsetter.

[A]

The. The problem slash fascinating thing with lists like this is that I think you get into group think scenarios right. Where you're playing to the room and it's hard to like try to get.

[B]

Them hyped up after every single pick.

[A]

And, like, it's more so, like, I think you get into conversations where arbitrary things become like, oh, we got to do this right? Because, like, if I think if one person's making this list, I can see a Breath of the Wild in Ocarina. Because it's a group of people, I think the conversation will steer towards. We got to get a 3D and a 2D. Oh, I think that they might go breath or tears. Because tears could be on here.

[B]

Maybe they're saying you get one. I don't see.

[C]

Like, I feel like there's a sentiment around tears that, like, you didn't fully have, but you kind of had, where it's like, well, I already had Breath of the Wild and that was such a special experience. I don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When people are thinking about top 50, I don't see them thinking about tears in the same way as they do Breath of the Wild, but they should, because Tears is a better game.

[A]

That's the thing is, like, I think you get one of those and you get linked to the past.

[B]

We got a lot of good ones from the chat that I want to call out. We have Castlevanias in here. We have a Doom, a Wolfenstein. Someone wrote Guitar Hero.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, I do think Guitar Hero is on this list.

[C]

I think it should be on this list. I don't. I would. Especially with Rolling Stone. No, you know, they're. They come from music. I would be more likely. I would expect more likely to see a rock band on here.

[B]

I like that. I like that.

[A]

I'm going to say Shadow of Colossus.

[B]

Oh, that one's deep.

[A]

Bless.

[B]

I don't know about that one. I like that you need some gamers in there.

[A]

Shadow Colossus. Because you say it's deep. But I feel like when you're talking about when people start to get into the conversation of video games are art, I feel like Shadow Colossus is like the mainstream version of that. Like, it's like the number one thing you go to when you talk about video games is art, is you go.

[C]

To shadow mainstream conversation around that is Wind Waker.

[B]

Oh, I was going to go with.

[A]

Well, yes, but no. Shadow Colossus is definitely like the poster child for video games are art, but for gamers.

[C]

But again, when you talk about mainstream, I feel like I saw more conversation, especially in, like, that 2008-2012 era where people are up in arms of, like, our video games. Are they products? What are they? And like, I feel like Wind Waker was kind of a big conversation around that.

[A]

Man.

[B]

There's so much journey of fans and inside people.

[A]

I'll just say indie games, you know what I mean? But I think from Rolling Stone we had to go like low top level of indie games which probably would be, well one. Minecraft.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know if you said that.

[B]

Yeah, Minecraft's got to be on there.

[A]

Minecraft's gotta be. No.

[B]

Any sports games like an NFL and ssx. An NBA streets, A FIFA.

[C]

Tony Hawk.

[B]

A Tony Hawk, like Tony Hawk.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I think Tony Hawk is the most.

[B]

There's got to be some sort of sports game in here. Right? That changed everything.

[A]

Tony Hawk for sure. Here's, here's what I'm going to tell you and you're gonna be upset by this. Tell me it being Rolling Stone, I think another, a sports game that you could probably get Tech mobile.

[B]

Tech mobile.

[A]

I think you're going to get like that kind of. Oh, we all remember playing this like type of game and techmo Bowl I think stands out in that way.

[B]

Okay, okay. I like that.

[A]

Maybe you won't get mad at that but like I think that has a high chance as a sports game. Should we hop into it?

[B]

I think we hop in. I, I, I think. Well, we didn't call out a Call of Duty either though.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Call of Duty in this. Yeah. It's probably the, the Goat, Modern Warfare or an early Black ops.

[C]

Black Ops 1, yeah.

[A]

All right.

[B]

This is exciting.

[A]

This is exciting.

[B]

We were cooking here.

[A]

We could keep the, the wild thing is, is that we can like keep cooking and if I'm going to count, if I highlight everything and and order it, it'll tell me how many we have here.

[B]

Cuz we're pretty close.

[A]

We've written down 32. Yeah, we could easily, I don't, I'm not pushing to get to 50 but like we could easily get to 50 and then some. Yeah, right. Like that's gonna be the fascinating thing about this is we could just keep going and they're gonna have to like pare this down to 50 as rolling stone.

[B]

Let's see, let's see, let's. I'm excited. League of Legends is League and Dota. Yeah, let's run.

[A]

We gotta. And that's the thing is we're gonna learn the vibe. So hopping into it. We're reacting to Rolling stone, the top 50 greatest games of all time. Greatest video games of all time. Are we ready?

[B]

Man? This is exciting.

[C]

I'm ready. Are you? Y'all ready?

[A]

Yeah. Well, before we actually get there, I'm gonna read their blurb.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Set the tone.

[A]

There was a time when a great video game just needed to be fun. In the days before 4K screens and season passes, it was all that mattered. It didn't matter if the design was janky, if you could finish the whole thing in one sitting, and frankly, if it was way too hard. But things evolved over time. Games became more layered. They could tell a story the length of a novel or with the strength of a film. They could challenge the mind, either with puzzles or a test of reflexes. Most importantly, they could bring people together in an online lobby, arcade, or just on the couch. Gaming is really the story of the people who play them. But to pick the best games ever made, there's a lot of considerations. Gaming is a medium where sequels thrive. They can always look and play better. And while certain gaming dynasties run dozens of entries deep, there needs to be representation across the board. Today, everyone's a gamer, but they're not all playing the same thing. For this list, we looked at both how influential each game was at arrival, as well as whether it still holds up. A good game may have played well, but a great one still does. Damn, they spin.

[B]

They're clicking on this. I like this. I like this vibe.

[A]

These are games that made up the culture. Sorry. These are games that made the culture what it is today. And we'll chart where it's going tomorrow.

[B]

Let me just say this to Rolling Stone right now.

[A]

Gearing up right now.

[B]

You know what? I think y'all got the vibe, right? Okay. I know you got the vibe.

[A]

And this is what I'm going to say. We didn't say any mobile games. We're going to see some mobile games on here. The way they talk about it.

[B]

Pokemon Go. Candy Crush.

[A]

Pokemon Go. Yeah, maybe Candy Crush.

[B]

Hey, they were cooking on that.

[A]

What about farmville?

[B]

I don't know about farmville.

[A]

Farmville.

[B]

Damn these. That was good. You know what? You set us up.

[A]

You set us up.

[B]

Now, don't knock me down. Ok, Build me up. Let's build it up right now. Let's see it.

[A]

Oh, they also have an editor's note here.

[B]

Ok.

[A]

The platforms listed for each game are the platforms for which they are available now and may have changed since they were first released. Okay, that's fine. That is fine.

[B]

That's fine.

[A]

All right, let's hop into it. At number 50 50, we got animal Crossing. New Horizons.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Thumbs up for me.

[B]

You know what? I'm not mad at that at all. It took over the world when that one came onto the switch, especially with the Pandemic. I think it put a lot of new people like myself on the Animal Crossing that was not aware of what that game really was and then quickly learned how much fun that can be. Yeah, that's a. That's a top 50. That's a top 50.

[A]

I think a lot of games on this list are going to be going for impact. Starting off with Animal Crossing, New Horizons, and coming off of that blurb, I think more likely than not, I think you're going to see the Call of Duty, Modern Warfares more than the Call of Duty, Black Ops. Because of that. I think you're going for things that change the culture and shift things. Yeah. At 49, we got Hades.

[B]

Oh, they're cooking right now.

[A]

Haiti.

[B]

Here's your cool indie title that, like, everybody knows about. That's hot. That's hot. That's a hot one right so far. Right.

[A]

A thumbs up, I think.

[B]

I mean, first two are very strong. Here's the issue.

[A]

You're two for two right now.

[B]

Swinging. So that means when we get down to 30, they better be better than Hades.

[C]

Just. I see Chat reacting as well. Do you feel like it's too low, Blessing Hades? Yeah.

[A]

No, because this is top 50. We gotta, like. We're talking about the top 50 video games of all time.

[C]

Thousands of games get released every year.

[A]

Yeah. Like, so many games come out. 49 for Hades. Like, no, that's.

[B]

I think to be on the top 50 is a big deal.

[A]

Yeah. If I'm making my own personal.

[B]

Think of Hades, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah. We didn't even think of it. But yeah, if I'm making a top 100, like, I think Hades would probably land somewhere. Somewhere in this spot, honestly.

[B]

Very strong now. Very strong start. Great job.

[A]

At number 48, we got Castlevania. Symphony of the Night we go. This would be in a lot of people's top fives.

[B]

One of the OGs.

[A]

One of the OGs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of course, led to the Metroidvania craze, which, again, we're talking a lot about impact iconic status. So far, the first three games that we've read here.

[B]

Iconic, you can't be mad at this even if you think they're too low, too high, wherever their placement is. Just starting off the. The, the list with this and being on the list. Big deal.

[A]

So.

[C]

No, but here's the thing. And this is something that would always trip us up in the shit. Lists of old. Right. Is like, okay, we have some really good games, but do we take some left turns? We're like, all right, how is this game ahead of Castlevania?

[B]

Exactly? That's what I started with. Bear on the Hades. Right. It's like, I think we're going to start seeing a couple of those in the mid-30s to 20s. Here we might go.

[A]

I hear. I might be having too much faith.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I might be having too much faith.

[B]

You read that blurb now. You're riding the high.

[A]

Because I'm riding. I'm riding the high right now. And I think when we get into those conversations so far with how it's starting off in a good foot, I think the conversations will be about, okay, maybe this game isn't better than Hades, but it's going to be more impactful.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right. I think when we get to. I'm trying to think of an example, maybe Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, which honestly might not be a good example, but, like, you know, I would argue I had more fun with Hades than Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, but I can't say Hades is more impactful.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

I think that might end up being. The conversation we're having towards the middle.

[B]

Of the list is like, Hades hasn't had a commercial with every celebrity known to man for a Call of Duty commercial like they did.

[A]

Hades didn't fundamentally. Well, I don't actually.

[C]

I would say Hades popularized the. The roguelike genre more so than a lot of other games. And I'm saying popularized in, like, a mainstream sense.

[A]

I will. But here's what I'll say is that Call of Duty, Modern Warfare, I think redefine.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I'm not saying it's on the same exact level, but, like, I do think it did like, something I. I definitely agree with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can we. Can I take a moment.

[A]

Really quick, take a moment.

[B]

For someone who hasn't played a Castlevania game, can I play this in a modern setting? What would be the recommendation? As you see, I'm going back in time and I'm willing to play new games, I think. So I haven't played one of these. Where would I go?

[A]

The PlayStation Vita? Because literally, that's the last place I remember playing Castlevania. Symphony of the Night.

[C]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[A]

It's. It must be on PS4. Yeah. People in chat are saying PS4.

[C]

It's on phones as well.

[B]

Is this the. Is this the Castlevania to play Symphony?

[A]

Yes, if you're picking one. Yeah. Symphony of the night is, like, the people will say it's one of the greatest games of all time.

[B]

And I played on my. I play it on whatever. Okay. Yeah, that sounds great. I'm on.

[A]

All right, number 47, we have the Legend of Zelda. A Link to the Past.

[C]

Way too low. That's low, dude.

[B]

To the past.

[A]

Okay, I gotta see the rest of the. Because so far, every single time, I'm like, all right, what's gonna be above this? They find a way to step it up.

[C]

And I know, like, I'm by it, but, like, Link to the Past made the formula that everybody thinks about when they think about Zelda and so many other games have, like, looked to it, like, this is. This is, like, one of the most impactful games. I would say the. This at 47 feels hella low.

[A]

I'm not mad at it yet.

[B]

I got to see some more. I'm happy. It's. It's on the list. You know what I mean? Because I think there's going to be another Zelda way higher.

[A]

That's my thing is, yeah, they're going.

[B]

To put a Zelda way higher.

[A]

1000%. There's a Zelda way higher. So I think one. They probably try to spread it out a little bit. But also, I think, yeah, it's tough because every Zelda. We talked about this a lot leading up to Tears of the Kingdom. Most Zelda games are, like, highly impactful for different reasons. Right? Like when you talk about even the original Legend of Zelda for nes. Right, the way. Like, the way that. I think that opened up action adventure as a genre then. Yeah, we talk about. Barrett was talking about with Link to the Past, you then get to Ocarina and what that did for 3D action adventure games, then hopped to Breath of the Wild and what that's done. Like, it's tough when you're talking about Zeldas and how to place them and, like, you know, again, what you want to put higher. I think we're gonna get either Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom.

[B]

They got good games so far.

[A]

Good game so far. At number 46, you got league of Legends, dude.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Makes sense.

[B]

You have to. It is a dominant force. It is a great game. Point blank, period. There's nothing better than stepping up with your squad of five against another squad of five in the arena and playing right. Like, it is the most simple game anyone can understand it. There's deep, you know, lore and heroes to learn and try to master the abilities this game has to Be on the list.

[C]

It's ahead of Link to the Past, though. Come on. What are we doing?

[A]

I mean, I'm already, I'm not mad at it.

[C]

I am.

[A]

Like, I think it makes sense.

[B]

It's.

[A]

I, I, I would rather, like, I.

[C]

Think, no question beyond this list.

[A]

Yeah, I would rather play Link to the Past, but, like, I. For what League of Legends has become.

[B]

Like, yeah, League is the goat.

[A]

It's one of the most popular games of all time. It's one of the most popular games still ever since its launch.

[B]

Yeah, League is on there.

[A]

This is what I'll say, because so far, we'll see if there's a left turn. So far, this is gonna get a thumbs up for me.

[B]

It's still got big thumbs up.

[A]

I'm gonna give this the chance to get two thumbs up for me.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

We'll see if you can get there.

[B]

Let's give them.

[C]

If you think Alyssa's ever gotten that.

[A]

I don't think Alyssa's ever gotten that. But, like, and here's what will do it. If you can, if you can get Hitman, World of Assassination on this list, you'll get two thumbs up for me.

[B]

O like that. I like that.

[A]

All right, number 45, we got Fortnite.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Wow. I, I love that it's this low.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I, I, Because I think it deserves to be on this list. But I think you put it in the top 10. It starts to get a little bit IR of like, all right, like, I.

[B]

Get what Fortnite, but, like, cultural impact and significance, what it's done to the marketplace. You can make all of those justifications for it to be higher is what I'm getting.

[A]

Perfectly high.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. But, like, to be on the list. Yeah, we knew it was going to be on the list. There's no way. You can't walk around a city street block without asking somebody, and they would.

[A]

Know what it needs to be on the list. But I don't think, I don't look at Fortnite as, like, a gamers game. I think that's the reason why I'm like, yeah, keep it to the 40s. Like, put it on the list, but keep it, keep it a little bit lower because I think you want to get to the top 10. And for the people who are in the know to be like, yes, like, that game should be there. Right. Like, Fortnite, huge. One of the most culturally impactful games of all time. But I think we're also talking about, like, the gameplay and how engaging it is and all that stuff. Right. Don't get me wrong. Fortnite, great gameplay, engaging game on all and all that stuff, but you want to have, like, the heavy hitters when you're talking about, like, the actual design of it, be saved for the top 10, in my opinion.

[B]

I'm really, I'm, I'm interested to see because, yeah, I, I'm one of those that. I think this should be way higher. But let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.

[A]

Let's stop 10 at number 44. You got Elden Ring.

[B]

I like, hey, hey.

[A]

It's funny because Sony Chow was like, what would you consider a gamer's game? Like, Elder Ring is the one I was on there.

[B]

Okay. We have a lot of recent big titles that we all know and love on the list, but they are on the. The lower end. So let's see what's on the front end. You know what I mean? Let's see what's on that top end. But it has to be on the list. It's that special.

[A]

This is giving me, like, similar feels as what Barrett felt with Link to the Past.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Where I'm like, now you understand?

[A]

Now I'm like, okay, let's see how you top this. Let's see what's above this.

[C]

This, you know, at.

[A]

At number 43, we got Cele. Yo. Okay, first of all, again, in my opinion, should be higher, but also, hey.

[C]

It'S on the list. I was not expecting Celeste whatsoever.

[A]

And also, if you put that right above Elden Ring, I'm not mad above.

[B]

Elden Ring, League of Legends and Fortnite.

[A]

Hey. Okay, it's Celeste.

[C]

Have you ever played Celeste, Mike?

[B]

I have played Celeste. I like Celeste a lot. You know, I, I, I'm not mad at. I'm happy it's on the list. I think the chat called out Celeste earlier on the list.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I like seeing that. The chat. I think it's gonna be happy, but, like, I'm pleased with so far. There's two different settings for Mike right now. There is the. It's made the list. That's great. I'm very happy. Then there's a whole different discussion of where would we actually place these games? That's a different discussion I'm not ready quite yet to have.

[A]

And that's the thing is, again, until. Until we hit an entry where I'm like, what the are we doing? I'm happy. I again, Elden Ring. The immediate feeling was, how are you going to top this? Yeah, so far. I'm not mad.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Celeste. Yeah.

[C]

I don't like the amount of Celeste hate in our chat. I'm going to be honest.

[B]

Really, you guys should play that game. Even I like that game. It's a good game.

[A]

Even I like that.

[B]

Even I like that game. You know me, you know how I get. Oh man.

[A]

Celest is an alz Timer. All right, number 42, Batman. Arkham City.

[C]

I was, I, I meant to shout out a Batman game earlier. I imagine there's only going to be one on here. I was going to be Asylum, honestly, because I think more people in the industry and write about video games have more love for Asylum. But I, I, with Arkham City being on this list, that was a huge game. That's still, I would say again we have never actually had this official debate on a games cast. I, I think the Batman games are better than the Spider man games. And I think Batman Arkham City is still like cool. Top tier and untouched.

[B]

I mean Batman, Arkham City was the blueprint for every superhero game that we will get now into infinity. Infinity. Right. Like that it laid the blueprint. It showed like, hey, we can make a really, really great superhero game and we're gonna love that. And that was City to me.

[A]

I don't know man, that sounds like Spider Man 2 on the PS2 to me. Oh hey, hey.

[B]

We could get a Spider man and I think we might see a Spider Man.

[C]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[B]

Yeah, we probably would. Spider Man's very good. I think Spider Man's on this list.

[A]

I got nothing. I got nothing to say. I love Arkham City.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But like it's like an 8 out of 10 game for me.

[B]

Okay. So like are you mad that it's a superhero game making or you just know like it's not Spider Man.

[A]

No, because I feel them in this in the same tier.

[B]

Okay. Right.

[A]

Like whether it's Batman, Arkham City or something like those.

[B]

Both those games shouldn't be on the top 50.

[A]

No, I don't think it's that they shouldn't be on the top 50 list. I'm, I'm, I'm looking at this and I'm like, you put this right above Elden Ring and Celeste.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's more so where I'm coming from. Okay. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think even though like I have my bias, I think that's fair. I think it's fair. I do think it's crazy to put this above link to the past.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is funny because the Design around this game is definitely heavily influenced by a link to the past.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

See, now you're going into bucket number two of alignment.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Because I could say League of Legends and Fortnite should be miles ahead of Batman, Arkham City. I think we all can make certain, you know, certain arguments for each game, but like for Batman to be on the list, I think it's a thumbs up, right? Batman, Arkham City, and that Arkham Asylum, like Bear brought up, that changed the superhero game genre there and it really set the tone for what we'd see in the future. I like it.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not mad at it. On the list. Yeah, it's just, you know, we're rainbow. We had like a strong ramp. Okay, okay.

[B]

So right here at 42 this with Batman, you're like, okay.

[A]

But it's okay though because like, of course, like, it's not me making this list, it's other people. Right? And so like, I'm. This is okay to me.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

But like, let's see where we go from here with number 41, Metroid Prime. I like it. As somebody who only played that game two years ago, now it's shit rocks. It's a good ass video game right here.

[B]

It's crazy that this game is so good that people now like, we're waiting for the new Metroid and we're just. People are fiending for this, right? They want this. And so, yeah, I think you got to give respect to some of the older Nintendo titles that have really paved the way and have lasted the test of time. And Metroid's on that list.

[A]

All right. And number 40, we got chrono Trigger. So so far in this like 50 to 40 range, I think they cooked. I think this is great.

[B]

A solid first 10, I should say, to kick you off on the list and all titles that you can have arguments about, you have your thoughts on, but I don't think there's been a title yet where you're like, that's not on the top 50 list.

[C]

I personally think it's too low. But also at the same time, I did think of Chrono Trigger earlier when we were guessing what would be on the list. And there was something in my head that I was like, I doubt they put it on here. So I'm just honestly happy it's on the list. It's such a special game.

[A]

Every game I'm looking at as I scroll through from this 40 to 50. Yeah, every game on here I think should be on a 50. On a top 50 list. If I am making a top 50 list, I'm being even objective, outside of my own taste. If I'm just thinking, like, what would the industry put in the top 50? All these games go on here except for I would even include Batman Arkham. Right. Like, I think Batman Arkham I look at is. I look at as top 100. But again, I'm not mad about it being any top 50. You know what I mean?

[B]

I agree with you on that one. I think we're having a good conversation. I haven't seen anyone in the chat truly mad at any of these 10.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I think everyone is agreeing with all of us. Like, last for some, that's a solid.

[C]

10 weird about that game.

[A]

Yeah. I think in, like I said, I think the only thing I really see is people being like, oh, man, that should be higher. Yeah. And I'm not. I'm not going to, you know, lay my flag down on that yet. Until we get higher.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because so far, again, like, I. I stand by. There are a lot of incredible video games. And I think the only reason why, like, some of these are, like, maybe this low is that we're Forgetting how many 10 out of 10 video games there are.

[B]

Right.

[A]

How many masterpieces there are. So until we're like. Until we get to the top 30 and they're like, oh, bio mutant. Then we got a problem.

[B]

I saw Jabroni on Tick Tock Play Biomute. I had flashbacks to when I played and I was like, oh, you got to turn that game off quick, bro. Hey, if you like this list so far, far the first 10, put a 1 in the chat if you have issues with this list. Put a 2 in the chat if you're watching live on YouTube and on Twitch. So engage your interest on the vibes right now. One, for you like it. Two, you don't like it. And we'll just take a quick little super fast look at it, right?

[A]

Yeah. And I also want to shout out super chats. Right. My thing as we go through, if you see a game and you're like, that should be higher. That should be lower. Super chat in and let us know why.

[B]

Yeah, we want to hear from you.

[A]

I love that. If you look. If you're looking at Chrono Trigger and you're like, oh, that should be top 10, write in, let us know and we'll read it. I will read the super chats that we have already, though. Gator. Mashed Potato writes in and says, gator, glad you had a chance to finish Mouthwashing it definitely may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it does some pretty awesome things.

[B]

I'm happy I played it. At the end of the day, you know, we talk about me stepping out of my box and trying different games. I'm happy I at least played it. I'm happy the time length was only two and a half hours. Anything past that, I probably would have stopped, to be honest with you. But, like, it was a good game to at least try and step out.

[A]

I agree, and I'm glad I played it. Also for the fact that even though it wasn't all the way my cup of tea, it is the kind of game I was looking for. I was looking for something that was going to, like, move me in a way or something that. That wanted to tell a unique story, something that seemed interesting and, like, you know, different from a lot of other games I played. And so, yeah, mouthwashing definitely filled like that thing I was looking for in the moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

RN writes in and says, best fun duo. They'll always give me a good laugh and smile. Thank you so much, Aaron.

[B]

Thanks for watching. Give me one of those. Come on now.

[A]

Zeke Speak says real quick. Barrett, thank you for pushing Citizen Sleeper yesterday. Started playing this morning and, oh, God, I'm hooked. Fellow TTRPG nerds. It's literally the game version of BL of Blades in the Dark. I do like Blaze in the Dark.

[C]

Oh, oh, did I put Citizen Sleeper yesterday?

[A]

Apparently. Apparently. According to.

[C]

I've never played it. Andy is the one who constantly.

[B]

Yeah, Andy and Roger were definitely hyping it up. And then. Yeah, I think Greg mentioned it, but yeah, there was a conversation about it.

[A]

I mean, I think I was talking about a little bit too, but I. I checked because I could have sworn I had started Citizen Sleeper.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

But then I checked my Steam library and I didn't own it. And then I checked my PlayStation didn't own it. And I'm like, where did I place it as a Sleeper?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't think I have it on Switch. Was it on Xbox Game Pass at some point? Chat.

[C]

Oh, maybe.

[A]

Because I definitely started it and now I really want to go back to play it. So let me know. Sheffield Boulevard just writes in and says, gwent.

[B]

Gwent.

[A]

Yeah, I love that smokin. Joe420 wrote in and said, I bet Elden Ring isn't on the list.

[B]

Well, you're wrong.

[A]

You're wrong about that. Myron5820 says, the thing with video games in general is they are so subjective. And with this list so far, I am so pleasantly surprised how much variety it has been so far. No complaints so far.

[B]

There we go. I like that.

[A]

And then George Huffman says, hades needs to be hired also. Love you guys.

[B]

We should save that. The three of us or maybe the audience at the end. We can pick one or two games that we think should be higher and have a quick conversation.

[A]

I like that. I like limiting ourselves to two games.

[B]

One or two, and just say, hey, this is up here. This should be down here.

[A]

I agree with that.

[B]

You know what I mean? I like that. We can have that.

[A]

All right, let's move on. From number 40, let's hit number 39. We got God of War 2018. Right.

[B]

It's interesting because, like, when you start talking about these games and you start talking about, like, how recent games have been and the popularity of them, you think something like a God of War usually somehow creeps into the top 10. Right. So I am interested of, like, man, they're putting some really banger games from Elden Ring to this that are, like, taking over the world recently. What's the top 10? That. This isn't in there.

[A]

I like things.

[B]

I like this.

[C]

This is a respectable spot for a top 50.

[A]

I agree also with God of War. The thing that surprises me, though, is that it's the first God of War or it's God of war 2018, and not Ragnarok.

[C]

But I think it's a similar thing to Tears of the Kingdom, where people have more fond feelings about the first one. And, like, maybe the second one is technically better, but, like, there's. There's more love for the first entry.

[B]

You like Raggy more than.

[A]

Oh, I definitely like Ragnarok more than God of war 2018.

[B]

Yeah, good to know. Good to know.

[A]

At number 38, we got shadow of the Colossus.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

I doubted you.

[B]

Straight up. Called it, bro.

[A]

Hey, this, like, when we get to the end, this might be one of the ones where I'm like, this should be top 10. Like, Shadow Colossus all timer. But again, I'm not mad at it. On the list, period. Right. Like, I feel like, to your guys's point, I think it's one that you could easily forget.

[B]

I think so. Yeah.

[A]

When you're thinking about, like, you know, the popular stuff, the big stuff, the forts, Fortnite's, the League of Legends, all that stuff, like Shadow Colossus belongs on this list.

[B]

Cool. That's a great one.

[A]

At number 37, we got Pokemon Gold and Silver.

[B]

Oh, Nice.

[A]

I would almost. I'm almost kind of surprised by how low this is.

[B]

Low.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, I kind of would have thought this would like a Pokemon. If this is the one Pokemon game, which I. Right now, I'm assuming it is. I would think top 25, but I'm not. Again, I'm not surprised.

[B]

Let's say this really quick. Do we think we see another Pokemon on.

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Because I don't know if there's one that I would say is better than gold and silver.

[B]

Well, like red and blue. No, original. Original.

[A]

If they're. If they're going for Impact. Yes. I could see it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I. I think it's weird because, like, gold and silver is better. I, I. Overall, even though, like, I prefer red and red and blue because, like, childhood nostalgia, of course, gold and silver, I think is the one you pick when you're making a best of list.

[B]

Okay, well, we're gonna. That's because we're gonna play Heart Gold and Soul Silver for Nick's Nuzlocke number two.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This will be my first time ever seeing that because I AM Just an OG 151.

[C]

Not ready. It's.

[B]

I. I don't even know what this is.

[A]

I'm very excited to see at number 36, we got super Smash Brothers, man. They're cooking.

[B]

We didn't call that Smash.

[A]

Ultimate Chat. Smash ultimate for audience.

[B]

Ultimate. Yeah. Ultimate's the right one.

[A]

Yeah, I. I mean, I think it's the right one. Like, they could have an argument for melee, but I do think ultimate is the choice to go with. I love that it's on this list.

[B]

I love that. I mean, fantastic. We didn't even think of that one on ours because there's just so many games to try to put out in five minutes of guessing games. But, like, yeah, Smash is on there for sure.

[A]

Again, Like, I can't believe SWORD is at it. They might. I think they're going for, like, the two thumbs up for me, man. Like, I've never given a two thumbs up on the show before, but, like, tracking well. We're not trying to Halfway through it, though.

[B]

Bless. They're tracking so well right now, y'all.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

Eating your words.

[A]

They got Smash ultimate on here. Like, they know what they're talking about. They know what they're doing.

[B]

They got some gamers over there. You know what? Rolling Stone, known for being tastemakers.

[A]

They are.

[B]

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[A]

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That's Rocketmoney.com Kindafunny Rocketmoney.com Kindafunny and we're back. RZ Jones writes in with a super chat and says in my opinion Arkham City should be higher. It's what set the standard for superhero games. I believe that's what Barrett said or Mike said that.

[B]

Yeah, the blueprint. Yeah, yeah. Me and Bear, I think me and Bear both agree on that one. I think it's a very good game.

[C]

I think for a top 50, I think it's in the right spot and I only say that like if it had a bigger impact on a fuck ton of more superhero games after it. Yes, maybe higher but like how many realistically how many big superhero games have we seen since then that have like really, I don't know, been super successful?

[A]

And then Yang fan writes in and says bless, I love that you will always champion Shadow Colossus. Oh, you know it.

[B]

Blessings your guy for that.

[A]

You know it.

[B]

One day I'll play it and I'll understand.

[A]

Or not. It's the thing where you know what, Actually I stopped Telling people to play Shadow Colossus because it is a weird game to play in 2025. Right. Like the controls, even with the remaster. Yeah. Because they didn't change, like, how the game plays. And nor would I want them to like that game in 2004, whenever it came out. Right. Like, was such a mind blowing thing. But it is also a. Hey, this is designed a particular way because we want you to feel a feeling of struggle and frustration at times of trying to climb a thing that feel that's like trying to shake you off and all this shit. And so, like, I've. I've recommended enough to people on shows and stuff where, like, I get tweets back and they're like, oh, I didn't like it. And I'm like, well, I can't do anything about that. Old game. Is a little old, but I still. I still do think it holds up in terms of the artistry of it. So it's a beautiful game. All right, we're moving to number 35, which is Sonic the Hedgehog 2. They cooked, man.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

They cooked.

[B]

Wow. Didn't think of Sonic.

[A]

I just saw Bear walk out, which he's not mad. I'm sure he's gonna fix something.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But the way he just walked out the door, it seems like Sonic. Yeah. Surprised they went Sonic 2 instead of Mania. Sonic Mania, I would say, is like the best one.

[B]

That's the bundle of them. All right.

[A]

Well, it's like, it's a new game, but it is like kind of like the best of. Like they have returning levels and all this. But when you're talking about classic Sonic, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is my favorite. It has all the levels that you want. Right.

[B]

It has sounds.

[A]

It has the sounds, the looks. They have Chemical Plant Zone. They introduce Tails.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a. It's such a good.

[C]

I think this is an insane pick. And that's why I did walk out. And not because my lunch got delivered.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Because we all know the only good Sonic game is Sonic Mania.

[A]

You know, Sonic Hedgehog 2 is so good. It's a classic.

[C]

I'm just.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I love this.

[B]

It was pushing SEGA at the time.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, you got to talk about impact, Right. If you rewind time, this was what you saw on the front of every box. This was the game that was getting plugged into that cartridge all the time or into that console all the time. That's the game.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

At number 34, you got hollow Knight.

[B]

I gotta play this Game.

[A]

There's such a variety on this list.

[B]

Hey, they're every Rolling Stone.

[A]

I know your stat. Your staff had connoisseurs on it. The Rolling Stone right now is batting better than, like, video game websites on this list. Like, I love the gamer, but the gamer ain't having a list like this.

[B]

They don't got a list like this.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

So far, this one's cooking. This one's cooking. I like that.

[A]

At number 33, we got.

[B]

Hold up really quick. Let's just roll back to that. It's that good.

[A]

I'm not playing Hollow Knight, Okay. I just know how much people love. I haven't played it yet.

[C]

Almost everybody who has played Hollow Knight says it's that good, though.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, good to know. I'll put it on my list.

[C]

That's why the sequel is like, one of the. It's an indie. It's a sequel to an indie game, and it's one of the most anticipated games of all time in the last eight years.

[B]

That's my issue is, like, as someone who hasn't played this, I have apprehension on this pick.

[A]

Really?

[B]

For top 50.

[A]

Because you're against.

[B]

I'm getting in the me. I'm getting in the social media bias of like, everybody's screaming, silksong. This got to be the best game ever. Now I haven't played it. Maybe it is the best game ever.

[A]

So, I mean, judging from my list.

[C]

Game ever, it's the 34, if you.

[B]

Know what I mean. It's on the top 50.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is me just going from word of mouth and like, this is. This is where I come back to those iconic picks, the popular picks, the impactful picks, but then the gamers game picks. This is definitely a gamers game pick where it's like, oh, if you know Hollow Knight. And if you played Hollow Knight, like, you know, it's one of the ones. And I say that somebody who hasn't played Hollow Knight. Right. But again, I hear. And I hear the Internet talk about it.

[B]

I'm just like, you know, I bought it. I'll play it and I'll let you know.

[A]

I also got to play this. Maybe this is one of the ones I go to.

[B]

Okay, Maybe we play it together, we talk about it.

[C]

Play this and then play nine souls.

[A]

At number 33, we got NBA 2K11.

[B]

Oh, wow, 2K11.

[A]

This is the Michael Jordan one.

[B]

Yes. This is the time. So right now, if you were to ask young Mike, there was a time between 2006-10 when there was a meteoric shift between NBA Live and NBA 2K, it used to be all about NBA Live. We loved the controls, we loved the gameplay, and somehow 2K took over. Whether you liked it or not, 2K became this juggernaut that is now to this day still the number one, right? It's the only basketball game sim that you can find around. They killed NBA Live. Like it is that big of a deal. I, I, I don't know if I put it on my top 50. I did have the discussion of like what sports game makes the top 50, right? And so like at this moment, if you were to look back at it, you brought it up during game showdown, right? This is when we started the super Player Hero moments, right? Of like MJ had its own moments collection. Now every sports game has a hey, here's highlighted moments from a superstar that changed the game that started with MJ right here in that collection and that.

[C]

Like influenced MLB and like other sports games. This being above every single one of the games that we've talked about so far, I think to me at least is insane. They lost me a little.

[B]

2K is big.

[A]

That's okay. Yeah, yeah, but, and that's my thing.

[C]

I get it for impact.

[A]

I remember like this game, like I remember playing it every week, like sometimes every day with friends back in college and it being such a big thing and like, like being obsessed with it. And so like I, to some extent it's the tough thing of when you are an annualized franchise and you have two Ks coming out every single year that we become numb to it. We Forget how good 2k is as a basketball game and sometimes terrible. Don't get me wrong, I understand that especially nowadays. 2k has so many issues. But like if 2k 11 came out and no other 2k came out after it, we would be like, oh, that's like a top video game of all time, right? Like those games are a moment. I remember how good Those looked on PS3 to the point where like I'd be playing it on like a friend's TV during a party. And like people would walk by and be like, yo, that looks like, that looks real. If we're playing on PlayStation 3, mind you, people are looking at this game like this looks like a real life thing. Like that this game was the post shot for yo show this to somebody.

[B]

The Sweat Physics.

[A]

Sweat Physics.

[B]

We talked about it on a top 50 games list. You probably have to have one sports title.

[A]

I, I would have, you can have FIFA on here.

[B]

You have to have a sports title somewhere. You think we're gonna get another one?

[A]

We got 2K. We're gonna get FIFA on here. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

I think this is your only sports title.

[A]

But I. I understand where Bear's coming from as far as like, oh, he put this ball bell ring. You put this. I would.

[B]

I don't know where you put that. I think we could make an argument. This should be towards the 50s.

[A]

It's the weird thing of with my assumption that there's more like if you put all the sports game. You can't put all the sports games in 40 to 50. The 4050 is going to be made up of sports games. 33 does feel high. It does get weird when you think about like ah, you're putting this above like Elden Ring and all these other Pokemon. Like 2k11. No, it's not above Pokemon. In no world, in no universe, in no timeline. This is above Pokemon. But this is one of those ones too where I think like you got to put it somewhere. I think it should be lower. It should be lower.

[B]

You know what? I'm not right now. I thought you had to have a sports game. I'm not mad at it. This is probably not the sports game I would pick. But when we talk about NBA 2K and what that is, it's.

[A]

It is. It is one of the more quality picks for a sports game, especially a Sims Sports. It's a very quality pick. One of the more quality picks you can go for. At number 32 we got Pac Man. Ms. Pac man specifically. What.

[B]

What's up with Ms. Pac man versus the original Pac Man? Is there a difference?

[A]

Is there something. I think a lot of people would prefer Ms. Pac Man.

[B]

How come? Like what. What is it? No, what is points to that.

[A]

It's basically the sequel. Like I'm tell do this as somebody who was not alive in 1982, but as far as I understand about Ms. Pac man, it's like basically re like you know, revamped. I figured. I don't know if the mazes got different as they go as they went.

[C]

Or whatever is saying it's the better version. It's faster.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's harder and stuff like that game feel is better.

[B]

Cool. That's great. Okay. Yeah. I think Pac man, when we played the Pac Man Battle Royale last year, we had Pac man in the building.

[A]

I do remember that.

[B]

That was awesome.

[A]

Great time.

[B]

It's great. I have a great photo of me.

[A]

And Pac man at number 31. You got counter strike.

[B]

Yes. I was going to say, do we see a counter striker valorant on this? You have to put one of the OG Goats, greatest of all time on there. Jabronis are still playing counter strike.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

We have counter strike two, but they were still playing counter strike one before that. This is one of the goats of the first person shooter competitive tactical shooters genre. It has to be on here.

[A]

They're going for a lot of classics. Yeah, they're going for a lot of classics on there. At number 30, you got Wii Sports.

[B]

I knew it would be on there. Someone broke Wii Sports earlier and I forgot how special that was. We everybody was in their grandma's basement, their best friend's basement. We numb Chuck, hooked up to their arms, swinging for the fences.

[A]

Yeah. God, this was one that like, was a mom in the same way that I'm talking about 2K11 and like, like NBA 2K and how that was a shift and how like that was so popular. Wii Sports is like that on cocaine where every household, like, if you're hanging out at somebody's house, if they got a Wiimote, oh, we're playing baseball, baby. Oh, we're playing tennis.

[B]

Oh, we're bowling is right. Yeah, we're bowling through the television.

[A]

Videos are going viral on cheeseburger.com of people throwing their Wiimotes into their TV. Like, this is a. You want to talk about, like, games that moved the world and shifted the world. Like, yeah, Wii Sports is the Wii.

[B]

And this changed the world for a couple of years there. But that's it was we mania for sure.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

Before we go on, let's get a quick check and I need everybody. If you're watching live on twitch and on YouTube, give me ones in the chat if you're liking the list thus far, give me twos in the chat if you've now changed your minds and don't like the list thus far. And of course, super chat away with any of your questions, comments, concerns about some of these picks so far. But I'm seeing still a lot of ones. A lot of people still riding with this right now. There. There are some twos, but I'm seeing a lot more ones.

[A]

Right. I got myself on the one. On the one side, I would say.

[C]

Like, it's hard to argue against this at 30 above a lot of the other games that we've seen so far just because of how big of an impact it had.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Although I don't think it's as good as a lot of the other games on this list. But yeah, this was in every household.

[A]

AK Writes in with the super chat and says, do we see. Do we see Pong on this list? I'm leaning yes. I also lean, yes. I think they're going for so many classic picks. They're going for so many formative games.

[B]

Gonna go with the OG of OGs. Yes. You're gonna go with Pong.

[A]

I.

[B]

But I'm gonna go no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm gonna go no.

[A]

At this point. Yeah.

[B]

I just don't. I. I don't see Pong fitting this list right now. It just doesn't feel right. But I agree with you. Like, they. They are definitely hitting the. Hey, what is really left an impact. And Pong would be.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's the tough thing of. Maybe we don't see Pong because they do lean toward Tetris and, like, we're gonna see more classic things. But there are. I mean, in terms of greatness, there are way better things than Pong, Right? Like, Pong is. I mean, the video game, when you want to talk about, like, the thing that got the ball rolling, like, that's Pong. But yeah, who knows? And also at the beginning of. In the original blurb, right. They talked about things aging well as well.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

You know, of course. I mean, not to say Pong didn't age well because you still play Pong. You still have fun. But I think there are other games you think of. Of like, oh, I'm gonna. I want to play this still. And that's Tetris. Tetris might be top two. Yeah.

[B]

I think Tetris is going to be in your top five, guaranteed.

[A]

Yeah. RZ Jones writes in and says, should a Call of Duty be on this list? In which one? We talked about that a little bit.

[B]

We talked about that at the beginning. We were thinking the. The Modern Warfare and the Call of Duty Black Ops there. Probably those original ones. Yeah.

[A]

Simon Cardi writes in and says, I think I. I think IGN's PlayStation list was better and written by handsome, funny people. Anyway, Shadow Colossus is in top 10. We riot. Listen, I love the Passion from Simon.

[B]

I love the Passion. Cardi, you might as well start the riot now because it wasn't top.

[A]

It was not top 10. Banner S says Arkham is important for licensed games in general, not just superhero games. Fallen Order, Indiana Jones, Hogwarts, Alien Isolation. Arkham did that?

[B]

Yeah, that's fine.

[A]

You know what? I'm not mad at the Rings. I'm not mad at it. You're preaching I like that.

[C]

And people also shouted out the combat system, which everybody did Ape after.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. Buddy Mellow fellow writes in and says, will we see undertale on here? Bless Barrett.

[C]

No, I want it on here. I would. I would be especially like the trajectory. We see this list going and shouting out a lot of old school games. I would more likely see Earthbound on here than undertale.

[A]

I'm gonna say yes. I think the fact that we're getting picks like Hollow Knight on here, I think they got their ear to the ground as far as like all different kinds of video games. Like, I think Hollow Knight is such a good indie pick. And I think we saw maybe a couple other indie picks. I think undertale is in that conversation for sure. Like that, man. We got a lot of super chats coming in. Shout out to y'all. Kebab says, I would have picked Sonic 3 and Knuckles on the grounds that it is that it has a save system and 2 does not. Yeah. But my opinion, 2 has more iconic levels, man. Okay. Chemical plants.

[B]

You would know best. I like that.

[C]

Weird that neither of you pick Mania, which is the only good one.

[B]

Blessed product Mania.

[A]

Yeah. No, I mentioned that. Like I would. I think I would have gone Mania over two. But I also like the fact that they're going for a class like Sonic 2. More. I think more people play. I don't know if I can say more. More people probably did play. It's the more giving you.

[C]

I understand.

[A]

More parents. Right. Like more people in. More generations probably played Sonic 2.

[B]

Anything about the. Like we talked about the box. The genesis at that time. Yeah, that was it. That was it.

[A]

Zeke Speak writes in and says, popularity doesn't always equal quality. But many of these games are slash. Were popular for a reason. They were genuine trendsetters, had revolutionary gameplay or represented the best of the genre.

[B]

That's NBA 2K.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I think that that can be made for NBA 2K and a lot of all these games. But like, when you think of odd ones that aren't quite fitting the mold, NBA 2K fits that to a T. For what it did.

[A]

Stone Wallcraft says is we is Wii Sports the best system seller ever. It might depend on how you'd find best. But I'm gonna say, yeah, give me a better one.

[B]

Yeah, find me a. Find me a couple better ones.

[A]

I guess system seller. Like would. Would we count Mario 64 as the system seller? I. I'm gonna say yes for we. Or. Oh, Tetris. Tetris was a system seller. You can't. Yeah, it's Tetris.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's Tetris. Okay. That's a good one. Chat in this, the last one for now, Samson L. Writes in and says, Minecraft top five.

[B]

Calling it now Minecraft GTA 5. Red Dead Redemption.

[A]

Red Dead Redemption.

[B]

I'm just trying to. Now I'm having the fun part of my mind of like, what's top five here? Tetris, Minecraft GTA 5, Red Dead.

[A]

See, I'm with you on the first three. I'm not doing right.

[B]

I like. I'm just throwing some, but I like it.

[A]

You know what? I'm gonna say Portal.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think Portal's gonna Portal.

[B]

I like Portal on that. Okay. Keep fun.

[A]

It's gonna be fun.

[B]

Now you start chewing chat. Now you start thinking. I'm like, what is. Because you're seeing. We've seen 20 so far. Let's get into the next.

[A]

At number 29. We got Uncharted 2among fees.

[B]

Holy shit. They went with Uncharted.

[A]

They did.

[C]

I'm surprised.

[A]

That means Last of Us is definitely top five.

[B]

Does that mean Last of Us?

[C]

I see top 10.

[A]

Tomb Raider was never in my.

[C]

No. Yeah, that was never happening. And the only. The main reason why I said earlier that Uncharted wouldn't make the list is because there's so many games and I. I feel like, like if they already choose the Last of Us, which would obviously be on this list, they might, like, be a little bit more reserved about doing a nut, like a second Naughty Dog game. But, yeah, not too surprising.

[A]

Yeah, they picked. I mean, I'm more of an Uncharted 4 person. That said Uncharted 2 is, I think, the right decision.

[C]

It should be three.

[A]

It was a, like, it was. I think it. It took the franchise to another level.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Uncharted 1 came out. It's like, okay, cool. Like Uncharted. Uncharted 2 came out and like, the way it opens up in that train scene. I agree. Oh.

[B]

I mean, Uncharted is the modern day Indiana Jones, the globetrotting adventure that everyone wants to go on and everyone wants to see. It's a ton of fun. It was a fantastic series. Yeah.

[C]

I would. I would agree with Chad here. I think a good amount. A good handful of games. It's above. I don't necessarily agree with.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But the influence it had in terms of. Of more kind of like, especially in, like, that PS3 era of like, really pushing the limits of how, like, film feeling cinematic can be. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Cinematic. That was the Word I was looking for film feeling also. Sounds good though. I like it.

[A]

Yeah. Alliterations.

[B]

We get Uncharted on the list and that's.

[A]

And to double down also to bring up a chat I saw come and go. Right. Somebody mentioned like it's arguably maybe the most influential, like PlayStation game. When you think about what PlayStation is nowadays, you don't get like in the way that we talk about Last of Us being the turning point, it's that weird chain effect of you don't get Last of Us without getting Uncharted. Right. And like Uncharted 2 to bear its point cemented. What this is in terms of the cinematics of it, in terms of like the larger than life nature of it, you don't get Last of us without Uncharted 2. You don't get God of War, like modern God of War without it. You don't get Ghosts, you don't get Horizon. Like a lot of the games that have established what PlayStation is today, I think links back to Uncharted 2among them.

[B]

I was, I was going to ask you, is Uncharted the turning point for PlayStation that goes into that narrative driven, you know, third person action adventure game that everyone loves and adores and wants all the time?

[A]

1,000.

[B]

Is this the moment it was Uncharted?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I agree with you.

[A]

I think so. Even though, like again, the original Chartered trilogy, I didn't vibe as much in terms of like gameplay and stuff. Right. Like I didn't really vibe as hard until Uncharted 4 and I was like, yo, this is fantastic. I respect it. I like that. I respect.

[B]

Okay, 29, that's a big one.

[A]

And number 28, we got Minecraft.

[B]

Wow. Okay. Really thought this would be in the top five.

[A]

I like it here.

[B]

Maybe it was the chat's influence, but I also think like Minecraft is mega big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, of course I'm still giving it a thumbs up. It has to be on this list.

[A]

I, I mean top five feels like it would have been too high. I. I guess in terms of like it's one of the most popular and iconic games.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But is it one of the best?

[B]

A game that gives you the ultimate freedom to do anything.

[A]

It sounds like you're talking about GTA 5, the game that's going to be in the top five.

[B]

Minecraft, the game that lets you do anything and everything.

[A]

What if we're not thinking big enough?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There's a game, Mike, that everybody's playing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That is the direct competitor to Minecraft and it's called Roblox.

[B]

My mind went to that of like, oh, shit, If Minecraft is 28, is Roblox on this list?

[A]

What if Roblox is his top five?

[B]

Is Roblox on this list?

[A]

Put Dreams in the top 10. At number 27. We got Resident Evil 4. We didn't even think about it.

[B]

We. The chat brought up Resident Evil 4. I was going to ask you, do we see a Resident Evil in this? And yeah, I think you have to have a Resident Evil in the top 50 for sure. Where you put it depends on whatever. But yeah, four, I just got done playing. It is incredible.

[A]

You had. Yeah, you had to have Resident Evil 4 on the list. Again, that's enough. When you want to talk about a Turning Point game in the similar ways, Uncharted.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like Without Resident Evil 4, a lot of those games that I mentioned, you also don't get either. Right. Resident Evil 4, I think is like the. One of the predecessors, I would say, as far as something like last was as, well, like as much as Uncharted. And so, yeah, Resident Evil for the Resident Evil. Yes.

[B]

In most to all people's minds.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Not two.

[C]

Four or two. More people would. A lot more people would lean forward.

[A]

We'd go four, then two, four, then two. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, Okay, I like that. I'm. I'm happy with this. I liked four. As someone who's now played 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, I've almost completed the series. I know there's some more I'm missing, like three and a couple earlier ones. But like, I. I'm having a ton of fun with these earlier ones. Like four, it was a great time.

[A]

Number 26, we got Mass Effect 2.

[B]

There it is. Has to be on there.

[A]

Has to be on there.

[B]

The epic sci fi adventure.

[A]

Epic Skyrim is probably your top five, right?

[B]

Skyroom might be in this top 20 right here. Skyrim might. Might be right here.

[A]

At number 25, we got Stardew Valley.

[B]

Okay. I have not played Stardew Valley. I haven't sold my soul to the farm life yet.

[A]

Cultural impact, people like it. A lot of people love Stardew Valley. A lot of people love Stardew Valley. At number which. We already got Animal Crossing.

[B]

We had Animal Crossing at 50.

[A]

See Animal Crossing at 50 in Stardew Valley at 25. I. For the cozy people in the chat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does that seem right to you?

[B]

I think it sounds right above Minecraft. It's in that same realm.

[A]

Yeah, the Minecraft Stardew Valley Animal Crossing realm. Even though that's Like a weird. Yeah. What do they call it? Venn Diagram. But I would have. I would have thought Animal Crossing or New Horizons Above Stardew Valley.

[C]

But also the way that Stardew Valley was able to, especially it being an indie game, break past like just the gamer sphere where it's like my mom who never plays video games and hasn't played video games Since Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005, like, plays Stardew Valley. We're like, shitty. Like, there are so many people who with that game and there's so many, like, quality of life things as a farming life sim thing that people love and still play to this game, play it to this day, nine years later. Right. Whereas, like, do people talk about the most recent Animal Crossing like that five years later?

[A]

A lot of people are with Stardew Valley over.

[B]

They are.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With all. Yeah.

[A]

Like every. Pretty much everybody in chat is like, no, Stardew Valley is the one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like kind of and to the point. Right. Somebody mentioned, like, kind of redefined or maybe even like, define the cozy genre. Like, were cozy games a thing before Stardew Valley when you think about it.

[B]

One day it's on my list of like, one day I'd like to try it, but I just. I don't know.

[A]

At number 24, we got the Sims.

[B]

Have to have. You have to have the Sims on. This is right. It. It. This one changed the world. This one was special, man. I still played in the Sims to this day. I have the OG Sims on my computer from 2000. I love this game more than anything. It is so good.

[A]

Mike. I'm honest.

[B]

Tell me.

[A]

I don't think I'm gonna see Hitman World of Assassination.

[B]

I don't know. You know what? But you would be in that room.

[C]

Maybe they surprised you though.

[A]

Bless.

[B]

And you would get them to think about it. You would get.

[A]

Yeah. Consider Hitman World of Assassination. Just think about it. I think now that we've hit the Sims part of the list, it's like, yeah, no, Hitman's not gonna fit.

[B]

Oh, we're going for the best of them.

[A]

We're going now we're at the, like, we're at the cream of the crop.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Like, if you weren't. They weren't talking about this game on cnn. You're not on the list. Like, we're going mainstream. Mainstream now.

[B]

Shout out to the Sims for making the list. Sims well deserved. Got to be on there.

[A]

At number 23, we got Tony Hawk's pro skater, the first one there's our skater. Interesting that they went 1 instead of 2 or 3. Yeah, it should definitely be either 2 or 3.

[B]

1. I think palace just burst onto the scene and showed people what could be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What was from the soundtrack to the grinding to the tricks not being overly super real life simulation and more being the arcadey fun that people wanted.

[C]

Two does all of that, but just wait. Better. That's the one people still think about to this day. Over the first one.

[B]

I wonder. Yeah, we. We'd have to call Rolling Stone and say, can you give us the reason why one over two?

[A]

I mean, we have the blurb here, right. Tony Hawk's pro skater remains one of the best examples of the intersection between games and culture. As you take control of 10 real life pro skateboarders. From Chad Muska.

[B]

Muska, yeah, Chad Muska.

[A]

To Hawk himself. The world of extreme sports becomes an open playground rife with experimentation as you're tasked with chaining together some of the most ludicrous physical feats possible for a wholly satisfying score attack. Or you can face plant hard into the ground, which has its own novelty. Yeah, they don't really go into like why Tony. Tony Hawk's pro skater is a. Is a way of experiencing thrills of skateboarding. Yeah. They don't go into like, why this one? Yeah, I'm not mad at it though. Like again, like Bobby B.

[B]

Bob Bird Quest.

[A]

At a certain point it's like, you know what? It doesn't really matter, but it does. Tony Hawk's pro skater. Cool. Like again, great game, impactful game. Led to a franchise. Right. Like, I think that's an impact.

[B]

See Tony Hawk on this, which I asked you guys sports game be on there and Baird and you both said, yeah, I think Tony Hawk, it's on the list 23 too.

[A]

And I think that's good.

[B]

On the top half.

[A]

I think Tony. Tony Hawk game deserves to be in the top 25.

[B]

Yep, I like that.

[A]

And number 22, we got Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare.

[B]

Have to have it.

[A]

Have to have it.

[B]

Man. This is when Call of Duty really put on this 2000. This like 2005-12 window here was like Call of Duty taking over the world. And it became like, oh, we are going to be the one from this point forward and we're gonna push this out every single year and we're never going to change. And people are going to love this, this. And yeah, this is the moment right here.

[A]

Yeah. Do we still see Halo?

[B]

Yes, I do still think you see Halo for the cultural relevance of it being that first. First person shooter to come onto a console with the controller having the twin thumb sticks and that kind of how special that was. I do think you see that. Yes.

[A]

At number 21, we got fallout three. I love it.

[B]

I. You.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

It. There was some Bethesda title that had to be here.

[A]

Skyrim showed that this is here.

[B]

You're shocked by Fallout 3 really?

[A]

Well, I think because we've gotten this far. Not that it's on the top because like, I think I would have expected it from 25 to 50. The fact that we're at 21 and they're saying fallout three, I think, surprises me because I'm Al. I'm almost like, wow. I'm surprised he didn't go with New Vegas, cuz New Vegas is more the fan favorite pick. Right.

[B]

Yeah. But three. Three's the three's the one that changed the game.

[C]

Yeah. When you think about Impact, which now that we're getting into the. This top half, these feel more of like what shifts culture rather than what is the better installment.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which I get. I don't fully agree with. I feel like you got to find a balance between the two. But yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, Fallout 3 is in my top 20 games of all time. Absolutely. Love. So I'm happy with this pick.

[B]

I like seeing Fallout. I think we're riding a high, of course, off the TV show and how good it is. But like, yeah, when you go back to 2008, Fallout 3 was very, very good.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're talking about Morrowind Oblivion. This is before Skyrim. They take you to a. A wild wasteland. You know, it was a fun time. It was really special. Having the vat system, having the crazy story. It was a. This is a good time. Good game.

[A]

Number three, dog.

[B]

Yeah. My guy, radio man. Yep.

[A]

And number 20, we got Mario Kart 64. Yo.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This is Impact.

[A]

They're cooking. They're cooking. Though.

[C]

This is not the better, best iteration. This is definitely Impact, but I'm fine.

[A]

With it because this hits me because here's the thing. I. I know Barrett is definitely on the opposite side of this as far as I. When I think of Mario Kart, I immediately think of Mario 64.

[C]

No, I think of 64 first as well.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's just eight. Like eight is the game, you know?

[A]

Yeah, you're right.

[C]

I know. Like, I can't argue against 64.

[A]

Like eight is. That is eight is infinitely. Eight deluxe is infinitely better than Mario Kart 64. But there's something about, like. But it's.

[C]

The top 50 games is.

[A]

It's greatest. I think it's greatest. Just.

[B]

I think it's on there.

[A]

Mario 64, like, just means something, man. It just means something.

[B]

It was the OG Kart racer. It put us on.

[A]

It put us on the map.

[B]

It was special, man. You had the battle mode in there, too, that you could play four player co op on the screen and everybody's together.

[A]

Like, if. I will say, if any. If anybody walked into this room right now and was like, hey, we're gonna play Mario Kart, which one do you Want to play? 10 out of 10 times? I'm saying 64. I prefer to play 64 than even acknowledging the 8 Deluxe is way better. But this means something to me, man.

[B]

Let's get a quick check in once again before we move on. Of course, put a 1 in the chat if you're still rocking with the first 30 here on this list. One, if you like the list. Two, if you don't like the list, let us know in the live chats on YouTube and on Twitch. We're seeing a little more twos then than normal, but we're still seeing a lot of ones right now.

[A]

The ones are coming in. The ones are coming in.

[B]

The Rolling Stone is still killing it right here. Rolling Stone's still killing. I like Mario Kart 64. I actually love this pick.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

I'm gonna say love it. Love that.

[A]

Played so many hours. This game might be one of the highest hour counts I have in a video game. Bringing in some super chats for you. Jonathan Dollison writes in and says, do we see an interactive drama on this list? Heavy Rain, the Walking Dead, or Until Dawn? Out of those three, I think the Walking Dead has a chance. Heavy Rain never had a chance.

[B]

I would say Walking Dead. I didn't know if Barrett was going to chime in on that one. I was gonna say Walking Dead would be my pick. Out of that, you get a maybe out of me. A maybe?

[A]

Margaret Peterson writes in and says, Stardew Valley and Civ 5. We got Stardew Valley. Let's see if we get Civ 5.

[B]

Well, we. Man, you get real nerdy if you start talking about civ games. Like, that's when you know, like, these are. We got.

[A]

But we got. We got some nerdy picks.

[B]

We already got some real. But if they put out a set.

[A]

At top 20, I think we got maybe. I think we got maybe three more, like, super nerdy picks left.

[B]

So Siv would be on there.

[A]

Then because I. I think we got. I'm gonna say three more super nerdy picks. Five more like big cultural impact style picks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe like seven more like gamers game style picks. And then I'll say five surprises where me and you are gonna be like, oh, didn't think about that. But good pick.

[B]

I'm still. Here's my three that I'm looking for right now. You ready for this? I like the sieve, so I'm gonna add it on there because I think it's wild and interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Age of Empires 2 and StarCraft. Will we see those? Okay.

[A]

I like it just because of the.

[B]

Impact what it did.

[A]

You only have 19 games left. I was doing.

[B]

I love them.

[A]

I was trying so hard numbers out. I was like, okay, so hard.

[B]

You have to be very.

[C]

Math is hard.

[A]

You know, whatever. Wavy writes them says, need some wind waker love favorite game of all time.

[B]

Well, let's take a poll. What we see another Zelda here.

[A]

Yes, yes. Unequivocally, we might see too.

[B]

Oh, we might.

[A]

Zelda is that kind of franchise.

[C]

Outside of Mario Kart, we haven't seen a Mario yet. Like a mainline Mario.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're saying they're saving both of them for the top 2017.

[B]

World of Warcraft. That's got to be on this list. We haven't seen.

[C]

We haven't seen a while now.

[B]

Wow. It's definitely on this.

[C]

That's got to be up here.

[A]

Zeke Speak says, Stardew Valley almost stole my girlfriend. Dangerous game.

[C]

It is a dangerous game.

[B]

If I ever get a girlfriend, I'll show her Stardew Valley.

[A]

What is that what you call it? This guy's crazy. And then George Huffman says, do we see the last of us and part two? If so, which is higher? I mean, at this point, you're only gonna see one of them, I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Part two. Yeah. Number one. It's number one.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

I think it's the.

[A]

I think it's half and half. I think it's a 50% shot.

[B]

Really? I always feel like people talk about one over two all the time.

[A]

You know what? I. I'll say one. Maybe it's 60, 40. Like, I feel like there's always a shot of last. It being last is part two instead of one.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Just for, like, I think just this high on the list. It's way more likely. Likely we see part one than part two.

[B]

This is exciting chat here.

[A]

We're excited.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Number 19. We got Baldur's Gate 3 had to be on there. Had to be on there.

[B]

Had to be.

[A]

Is it, is it low like it, should it be top 10?

[B]

We can have that conversation. Yeah, I, I, I mean we'd have to see what's below it here. We'd have to see what's, you know, on this list. But like ball, isn't it? I, I go to this. Isn't it special that Baldur's Gate 3 was that good made it really was. You're talking to a jabroni that played with Kyle way back in the day. Baldur's Gate 2 on the PC. I don't think anybody even was playing that game or the amount was very low. Right. To then have to come out in 2023 and change the world like that. I never would have thought that.

[C]

I think it's at the right spot for how recent it is. I think a lot of the rest of this list is going to be not games from the last three years.

[A]

That's a good call. This might be the most recent.

[C]

Like, and I think they're trying to like, maybe fight against the recency bias and be like, okay, like, it's definitely up there. But like, how up there do we feel comfortable with right now being only not even two years removed from full release? You know, like that.

[A]

And number 18, we got Madden NFL 2004, baby. Wow.

[B]

Holy wow.

[A]

We're getting the FIFA on the list. We're getting a people. Yo, you think we're getting a, you think we're getting a basketball and an American football game and not a soccer game?

[C]

Rolling Stone is, you know, in the US and we don't care about soccer over here.

[B]

I love it, I love it, I love it. 2004. Who's on the COVID of Man 2004? Let's take a look.

[A]

Was this the one that added the hit stick? This was the game shout on question.

[B]

This is the one with Mike Vick on it. Yeah, this is, this is the one that changed the world again. Yeah, yeah, this is the one with Mike Vic. Any kid talks about. This is the one. Yeah, this is the one.

[A]

If we're talking about like representation on the list and you're going to pick sports games, they're picking the right ones, man. They're picking like NBA 2K11 and Madden NFL 2004. Like you are picking the right eras of these games, games. That said, like, some of my favorite.

[C]

Gaming memories are from this game.

[A]

Then that's why, like so much back in the day, I want to be mad. But then I do think about the memories. I think about the soundtracks. I think about, like having friends over and playing like Madden NFL 2004 chat. Let me.

[C]

Like, I'm pretty sure this is one.

[A]

Like.

[C]

Yeah, Blink182 I think was on this.

[B]

Like, it was Alien and Farm on that.

[C]

Oh, my God. I remember like one of my favorite gameplay moments is I think I was playing with my stepdad and the team he was playing at like, literally fumbled and at like the five yard line and then I picked it up and ran all the way back 95 yards to get a touch and it was.

[A]

Like, like that word.

[B]

Let me hit you a couple with them. Ready for this? They have I'm feeling this by blink182. I'm feeling it. Love that. And then they got Never Scared by Bone Crusher. Yeah, I never scared.

[A]

What?

[B]

That was so good, bro. Pump it up by Joe Button.

[A]

Yeah, pump it up, bro.

[B]

Nappy Roots, dude, come on. Outcast is in here. It's like I told Greg this, that's why I was so mad at NCAA football this year, because I was telling him, like, when you go back to all these sports games in those 2000s era, it was the soundtrack. You turned it on to know what were the top 12 songs that Madden would choose, that FIFA would choose because that's what would rock with you through the year. And to come into NCAA football and just have just the drums all the time, like, that felt like a slap in the face. Yeah, you know, I mean, we got, we got to elevate that. But man, shout out. You know what? This was a choice.

[A]

It was a choice.

[B]

This is a selection here.

[A]

You're going to have some of these and again, like I mentioned, we're going to have a few picks where we're like, oh, didn't think that. But I'm not, I'm not mad for some reason. Yeah, Like, I feel like I should be madder at this than I am. But, like, I think it's weird to.

[C]

Have it specifically if we're. If this is the highest sports game we have and maybe it's not still at this point. I think it's weird to have it above Tony Hawk1 if that's the only Tony Hawk game on this list. Oh, that's my, that's my only. That's my only gripe now.

[B]

Quick little vibe check from the chat. The live audience is. There's. They're kind of. They're going back and forth on this. There's definitely a little bit of like people's heads are popping up like, I don't know about this one.

[A]

See here, here's the thing, right? Y'all are mad right now, but wait until we get to number 17 and it's something that we all with. You're gonna be just. You're gonna be back.

[B]

You're gonna be back. Then we clap.

[A]

You ask them right now. They're all gonna say to give. Give me. Give us two minutes. I'm.

[B]

I like Madden. I as a sports generic jabroni. As all of you know me as I played mad, I've played all these sports games every single year. So, yeah, Madden has to be on a top 50 list for sure.

[A]

And number 17, we got Diablo 2.

[B]

Oh, they got my fantastic, fantastic selection. That's an incredible choice right there. You know what? We're so back, everybody. We're so back.

[A]

At number 16, we got Red Dead Redemption, the second Red Dead Redemption.

[B]

We're back.

[A]

All right, now put your ones and twos in chat.

[B]

Everybody's cool with this one.

[A]

Right now, everybody's definitely at number 15. We got the Witcher 3 Wild Hunt.

[C]

Oh, I thought this was gonna be top ten.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Top.

[A]

Yeah, we're gonna get there in a second.

[B]

I mean, yeah, this top 20 is really, you know, it's. It's tight. These.

[A]

It's warming us.

[B]

It's definitely warming up.

[A]

At number 14, we got Street Fighter 2.

[B]

There you go. Like I mentioned, there's your fighting.

[A]

Surprise is so high, but I'm happy.

[B]

Shout out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Nice to see a fighting game on the list. Straight Fighter, as you always talked about the big impact of that, you know.

[A]

Before this, I didn't mention burnout three and like, we're too late. We're not gonna see burnout three. Okay, but could you imagine right at number 13 and being crazy? That'd be crazy. That'd be sick. Fighter.

[B]

Okay, should we find out?

[A]

Let's find out. Number 13, we got doom.

[B]

Here's your Doom. Here's your doom.

[A]

Again, you're getting your classic iconic picks, things that defined the. The medium. I love this.

[B]

I like this selection. I. Yeah, I'm not mad at that.

[A]

And number 12, we got world of Warcraft.

[B]

There we go. Hey, I'm not mad at that.

[A]

Very high.

[B]

Yeah, well, I would probably put a top 10.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To be honest with you, I think. I know you would have how important it is. I think that's a top 10 game. But yeah, like, wow. Wow. These are all everything so far, I have not been mad at. Surprisingly enough. I Have not been mad at any of these.

[A]

And number 11, we got Halo Combat.

[C]

Of all the first one.

[A]

The first one.

[B]

Well, we talked about it, you know, Halo being that first one. Yeah, we. I think me and Barrett went with three on that one. But number one is the correct choice on this. So, yeah, I'm loving what we're seeing here.

[C]

First console, first person shooter game to actually, like, really pull it off and. And make it feel good. And literally, it did fully change the ecosystem in terms of console games and shooters.

[A]

Before we get to the top 10, I want to bring in some super chats for you, man. You guys are just letting it roll.

[B]

In with Let it ride. Come on, let's get crazy.

[A]

Gary the Third writes in and says, if this was. If this were most influential games, this list is good. But for the 50 greatest video games, it's a bad list. Tony hawk's Pro Skater 3 is better than one. Mario Kart 8 is better than MK64. Now, here's my thing, right?

[B]

Talk to me.

[A]

Greater me. And I'm not making a stance here, but greater versus better, because I think better I can. I understand what you're talking about, but when you're talking about greatness, Greatness, I feel like you can define it how you want to, because I do. I do think you can put in, like, quality, you can put in how well it ages, but I think you can also put in, like, impact and icon status and cultural, like, impact. Right. Like, I think that stuff might fit within the definition. Definition of great, greatest.

[B]

Okay, I like that. I like that.

[A]

Snow13 says, I think we still see a Monster Hunter game worlds, maybe. Question mark.

[B]

That would be crazy.

[C]

Yeah, that super chat might have come in early.

[A]

It probably came in around the.

[B]

Okay, I like that. Yeah. I am surprised we haven't seen a Monster Hunter. Very good game.

[C]

But, yeah, yeah, I'm not. I. I could see it being one of those. Being in a top 100 honorable mention, maybe.

[A]

I like that Christopher Burnett says Mario Kart 64 is my favorite. One fun story. I get to play Mario Kart 64 against Val Kilmer and Panic at the disco at my house back in 2004. Good times.

[B]

What a combo with the Iceman.

[A]

What's going on at your house, bro? That's sick, man.

[C]

What parties were you throwing?

[A]

They live in Madison Square Garden, apparently. Electric Greg Tar says probably won't see it on the list, but as far as sports games go, NHL 94 was a huge impact for me personally, man.

[B]

Dude, I. You know, we talk about this top 10 maybe, probably not, but it may be.

[A]

Zeke speak says, BG3 is so insane. We're literally living in an era where every single RPG will be compared to it for the foreseeable future. 100 deserves it.

[B]

Yeah. A couple people were like, mike, are you sure? It's like, you know, it. It changed the globe. And it's like, I feel like we're living in that presently. I think 10 years from now, you'll look at that comment I made and be like, yeah, we probably were right on that one. Of like, yeah, we. This one has everyone in a headlock right now.

[A]

Like, you gotta think about, you know, Bethesda one of the biggest RPG makers ever, right? They're putting out games that take over the world. And they put out a game right after Baldur's Gate 3. And what everybody had to say was, this ain't hidden. Like, balls.

[B]

Maybe like, yo, it feels old, this game.

[A]

Baldur's Gate 3 made this game feel really old. They did that to Bethesda.

[B]

That's tough.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

Well, Bethesda did that to Beth, but that's also good. When we did that to Bethesda back in 2015, and that was almost a decade before that, you know.

[A]

Yeah, but, yeah, but like, think about that though. Like, we're talking about the Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate 3, right? Like, these are generational RPGs. Joshua Swinker says Mike Vick in this game is still the most broken player in Madden history. Still, maybe sports game history might be.

[B]

One of the greatest moments of all time is your friend selecting the Atlanta Falcons and running all over you. Yep, the coolest. And he was left handed too, so you could roll out to the left. No one rolls out to the left because you always roll right. Because they're right handed. So now all of a sudden, you're changing the whole entire game. God damn, it's the coolest.

[C]

What a fucking great game.

[A]

I'm down to Madden and then Mr. Hawkswise in it says, Madden 2004. Got me into sports games. Rented it just so I could listen to action by Blink182 on repeat. Ended up actually playing Slash. Loving it.

[C]

Yeah, that was like. That was like the demo title of that song.

[B]

Now, of course, before we go on any further, yeah, I want to do two things. One, of course I want to hear from the live audience. So please put your ones in the chat. If you're still rocking with it, put your twos in the chat on YouTube and on Twitch. If you're not rocking with this list before we get into the top 10.

[A]

So we're in the top 10. And then before we roll in. Right. I mean, do you want to. Are you trying to guess?

[B]

I think I was just going to say let you and I tee up a couple of guesses here.

[A]

Portal. Okay. I think a portal game is going to be top 10. Final Fantasy 7 has to be in there.

[B]

Final Fantasy 7.

[A]

Metal Gear A Metal Gear Solid game.

[B]

Okay. I like.

[A]

Has to be in there. That's Tetris. Tetris gta.

[B]

GTA has to be on this.

[A]

A Mario game or two. Oh, but let's say one, because at this point. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, you get one, you're getting one.

[C]

I think you get two Mario games.

[A]

I hope so. Man. Put some respect on his name. I mean, maybe I. I could see.

[C]

Starcraft being on there. Starcraft above wow.

[A]

We got. We. Oh, you're right.

[B]

Question.

[A]

Yeah. Would they put it above wow at this point?

[B]

I don't know, man. It did rta. It put RTSS on the map. Even though a lot of people out there shout out to Warcraft 3. I see y'all out there.

[A]

I think you get another Zelda. Zelda.

[C]

Ocarina.

[B]

Let's give. Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah, probably Ocarina, right? Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Zelda 7.

[A]

And then maybe Bioshock. Like either Bioshock or Half Life.

[C]

I would say Half Life. More likely than.

[A]

More than BioShock.

[C]

Yes. The way that Half Life, like bless almost all of the immersive sim games that we love today, would not exist without that game. And like BioShock wouldn't exist without that. Like if we're talking about. Yeah, but like pact of the like of the medium.

[A]

That definitely Half Life definitely had like game design impact, but like cultural. The way it hit culturally, I feel like Bioshock hit culturally. That's fair, right? Like, I remember going to school, everybody was talking about BioShock.

[C]

There's the weird in between as well of System Shock.

[B]

But I don't.

[A]

People talk about the. Because at that point, like we're talking about DSX and I don't think.

[B]

How about this? We haven't talked about it and I saw some just putting. Hell divers. Let's go Back to the OG left for dead.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Top 10.

[C]

That's a top.

[B]

Really? Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, have we not seen goldeneye?

[B]

We haven't seen Gold.

[A]

I think goldeneye's on there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's like. I think we named just eight. We just eight named eight games that are going to be on there for sure.

[C]

To me, Halo Combat Evolve kind of takes the place of like GoldenEye of console first person shooter.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Haven't seen any mobile. Like, true mobile.

[A]

Is there anything at this point that'll make it. What? Solitaire? I know that's not mobile, but that's not a top 10 video game. Wait, did we say Last of Us already?

[B]

No, we haven't seen Last of Us.

[A]

Oh, we got part two, though, right?

[B]

No, we haven't got any.

[A]

We haven't got any last.

[B]

We literally just got Uncharted.

[A]

And that's number nine. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or that's nine of them.

[B]

That's nine out of ten.

[A]

I. I think we legitimately got them. Skyrim. Oh, right. Yeah. That has to be 10.

[B]

That's our 10.

[A]

That has to be 10.

[B]

That's our ten.

[C]

The one that says Minesweeper.

[B]

Minesweeper Runescape.

[A]

I love that. But I think we nailed it down.

[B]

To that dumbass Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero couldn't show up on this top 10, and I would be all right with it.

[A]

At number 10, let's see, we got Super Metroid.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

We didn't even think about Super Metroid. They do have two of them. Yeah, they do got two of them. You have to.

[B]

Okay, I see. I'm not mad. I'm kind of blown away, but I'm not mad at it.

[A]

Yeah, this makes all the sense. Yeah. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.

[B]

Let's keep going. That conversation.

[A]

Yeah. At number nine, we got Elder Scrolls 5, Skyrim.

[B]

Have to.

[A]

Yeah, have to.

[B]

Now, we knew that.

[A]

At number eight, we got Final Fantasy 7.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This top five is insane, dude.

[B]

Yeah, this can be crazy.

[A]

And number seven, we got Solid.

[B]

Yeah, we're in.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This top five is where you make or break this entire list.

[A]

Very exciting.

[B]

It's very exciting.

[A]

You're naming like, these are the top five games that they're naming already.

[B]

These are the trendsetters. Really quickly. Let's just park the bus for a second. We look at those first. Go. We got Metal Gear solid, Final Fantasy 7, Skyrim, and Super Metroid. Okay. We're cooking right now. I. I think Super Metroid on for me is a little shaky. A little shaky on that.

[A]

I. I'm not shaky, but it's not shaky. Yeah, it just shakes, that one.

[B]

It's just. You had two of them. Yeah, but they're different.

[A]

They're different enough. That's.

[B]

Who Zeldas.

[A]

You're gonna get a second Zelda.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Final Fantasy 7 and Metal Gear Solid both being in the bottom five or, like, in the five through six.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

All right, and number six, we got Half Life 2.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

Half Life. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. We're in the top five.

[B]

Okay, Top five. All right.

[A]

Make or break, Rolling Stone. Make her break at number five. You got Last of us.

[C]

Makes sense.

[B]

Okay. Okay. It's in the. It was in our top 10. It makes sense. Makes sense.

[A]

I would put Metal Gear above it.

[B]

But we can talk about the rankings differently, but. Yes, this is in the list. Yeah.

[A]

At number four, we got World. Super Mario World. Now, let's pause here. What the is the top three?

[C]

I think.

[A]

How are we talking about Mario World and Melia? Solid.

[C]

I think Ocarina is definitely in the top three.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Oh, Tetris.

[B]

Tetris.

[C]

Tetris and Mario 64. This is where you see your two Marios, and they're both in the top 10.

[A]

I mean, that makes sense. I think those are very. We haven't got gta, though.

[B]

Oh, if they don't have a gta.

[A]

What don't they have on the list? Yeah, maybe. Maybe Link to the Past was the Zelda pick. We're not getting Ocarina.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

No Breath of the Wild.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No Tears of the Kingdom.

[C]

See those I'm less shocked by just because even though they're, like, universally appraised, there are, like, you know, people who don't vibe as much with those games. I would be shocked to not see Ocarina at all on this list.

[B]

Man, it's gonna be crazy.

[A]

It's gonna be crazy.

[B]

All right, give it to.

[A]

All right, number three. We got Grand Theft Auto five.

[B]

Have to, got to, have to put it on.

[A]

I appreciate because I feel like GTA 5 over the years is, like, you know, gotten a little bit of, like, hate just because it's, like. It's like. It's almost in the fortnite tier of, like. Okay, well, everybody plays because we haven't.

[B]

Moved on from it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We haven't had the time to appreciate how much we love and appreciate it because we. We've been stuck in it for 10 years. Yeah, we give love to Grand Theft Auto 3 for changing the globe, but Vice City and San Andreas, we love because we've had time away from them.

[A]

But I'm glad that, like, people are still putting it this high and low because, like, it deserves that game. When it dropped in 2013, that was crazy. Yeah, that was a crazy video game.

[C]

No portal on this list.

[B]

Can you.

[A]

Hey, we're not finished yet.

[B]

Can you believe that the Grand Theft Auto 3 Special Edition was a hat and a money bag? Lockbox.

[A]

I don't remember that.

[B]

What a ridiculous one. You couldn't come up with anything better than a dumb hat? Come on, now.

[A]

And number two, we have Tetris. What the is number one at number one?

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

I'm not ready. I'm not ready.

[A]

We have.

[B]

Okay, I'm ready.

[A]

Zelda. Breath of the Wild. Wait, what are we missing? Oh, I feel like a lot of things just got left off. Okay, so Breath of the wild is number one.

[C]

Ocarina of Time is not on this list.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

Mario 64 is not on this list.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

Which is like, no portal. No portals on this list.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

I guess I gave the portal to Half Life.

[A]

No, Bioshock is nuts, man.

[B]

We took a hard left turn. I like it, but I don't like it. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know about the number one. Again. When we look back at their blurb, their blurb was, you don't know about number one, Mike. What do you mean, you don't know?

[B]

I mean, I like number one. I don't know if that's number one.

[A]

Bless it's number one.

[C]

I don't know if it's number one.

[A]

Breath of the Wild.

[B]

I think we took a hard turn on that one.

[A]

We had not even the best Zelda.

[C]

Game, you know, so.

[A]

The greatest game of all time. I, I. So when I think back to the blurb. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Again, they did go out of their way to say, like, aging well. Like, what games age well? GoldenEye doesn't age well.

[B]

Okay. But not on the list.

[C]

Mario 64.

[B]

But Mario 64.

[A]

I can see them using the argument.

[B]

Super Metroids on the list. Yeah, but I give him respect.

[A]

But like, Super Metroid and Metroid prime both age.

[B]

There's not many games that got two. And, like, that got two.

[A]

I mean, you're right.

[C]

I'm. If we're talking about aging, like, for the 2D Mario games, I think it's crazy to not have three on there, you know, But I, I think because.

[A]

Okay, what are the games that we got two in one franchise. Because Metroid. We did. But I can see the argument of, like, Metroid prime versus Super Metroid.

[B]

I think it was just Metroid.

[A]

Was it just Metroid that we got two different ones?

[B]

Oh, Zelda got two. Yeah. Metro.

[A]

And that's like. And that's 2D Zelda versus 3D Zelda.

[B]

And we thought we'd get two. So, like, I'm not mad at that.

[A]

I think that's the art. But like that, that's the case. There's Mario Odyssey.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So maybe they just don't with it. Right. Like, maybe they're just like, hey, Mario Mario World.

[B]

We didn't put any Cotor. Knights of the Old Republic.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's just there's so many.

[C]

But again, that's where you get your mass effect too.

[B]

Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, I agree with that Bear. You can start putting comparisons there.

[A]

We got Halo, right?

[B]

Yeah, we got Halo 1 at 11 or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[B]

We had wow. We had wow.

[C]

We had a mainline Mario chat.

[B]

Man, this is a tough one. I'm. Did they earn the blessing? Adio. Yeah. Junior, two thumbs up.

[A]

I'm gonna give it one. Thumbs up.

[B]

One thought.

[A]

They got two. They got a thumbs up. They got a thumbs up. Right. I think this list is a big. I think this is a fantastic list overall. When you look at the. At the overall scope of things. I think all the picks were great. I think, you know, they were. They had the confidence to put like a couple sports games on here, but they picked the right ones, in my opinion.

[B]

The right ones.

[A]

Right. They're making a statement there. Hey, were you there for Madden 2004? Were you there for NBA 2K11? Like, these were moments. These are games that people hold near and dear and have great memories with. You got. You get into like the nerdy picks. You get into the iconic picks. They kept Fortnite games like Fortnite to the top. They kept it on the list, but they kept them down to like the.

[B]

40 on the list.

[A]

Right. Because they deserve to be there, but they know what people want. I think this is an overall good list. Great list even.

[B]

I'm going to give this list a thumbs up. This is a great list. Not a perfect list.

[A]

Not a perfect list.

[B]

But like, you know what? But there never is when you look for. If you want to show your friends a list and have some fun like we just did, or you just want to say, hey, here's a good list to a great list. They did it.

[A]

They did. I definitely have some big disagreements. Okay.

[B]

Like, yeah, I can't wait.

[C]

I talk a lot of about Mario 64 on content made mainly to get a rise out of blessing, but to ignore the impact of that game when so much of this list is about the impact of video games like that being the first major AAA console game to figure out 3D gaming.

[A]

Yeah. Mario Kart 64 on this list. No, Mario 64. That is asinine.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Let's be honest.

[B]

Okay. Had to be on the list.

[C]

No, Ocarina is crazy.

[A]

No, Ocarina is. Yeah, insane.

[B]

That's the. I think that's the issue. You get into these conversations when you're in the room of, like, how many is too many of this game from this franchise?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, and I. I agree with you. There's some. Some that deserve to have three or four on the list because they're that good.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I think you do get in the real conversations of the room of, like, we've already put them on two times, four times, three times. You got to cut them off now. I think that's how that goes.

[A]

I got Final Fantasy 7 on here, which is, again, deserved. But, like, again, I get into the weird thing of. Was this, like, an aging thing? Because, like, Final Fantasy 7, I'll put in the same realm as a Mario 64 in terms of, you know, how it's aged over time. I guess it's an rpg, so, like, maybe not as mechanical. So maybe that's where you would go with it, where you got to jump around and do all that. In Mario. In Final Fantasy, you're just walking around. But still, I would say it has aged.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

All right, so let's go around the room, the three of us here, and of course, the chat. We want to hear from you, please. Super chat. So we definitely can get you involved if you're. If you're able to give us the ones that either should be higher on the list or should not be on the list. What are you. What are your one or two. That is like, yo, this was a mistake. Or, hey, this should be higher as a mistake. Like, better. Better placement.

[A]

I mean, Elden Ring is the immediate thing that comes to mind. Yeah, I think in the top. Top 20, at least. Maybe top. Top 15. Right. I think if we're talking about that as the representation of both from and how much from is impacted. Action games, action RPGs, if you're taking that as an encapsulation app, but then also how quality it is as a video game in 2022, 2023, whatever. Elden Ring came out 2022. If you're looking at it as that. If you're looking for the cultural impact, like, Elden Ring checks every single one of those boxes and the fact that you have Baldur's Gate 3 so high, like, I would put Elden Ring in the same exact conversation as Baldur's Gate 3. I think both of those should be top 20. When you're talking about like the modern juggernauts, the modern greatest games of all time, I think Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring should probably both be in the top 25 at least I'll stand.

[B]

On business and I'll say it sound business. Mike Fortnite should be higher on the list. Fortnite should be in the top 20 conversation. For the cultural impact where we are today, I think it's hard sometimes to see it in present moment of you might have your bias, you hate Fortnite, you think it's for kids. You might love Fortnite, but I do think like it. Fortnite is changing fundamentally video games in the video game industry right now and we are living it up and it's going to change it for the next five to 10 years and beyond. I'm not 20 years from now we're going to look at it and be like that game is going to go down as one of the greatest, if not the greatest game of all time for what it has done. You might not like the battle royale, you might like like what it's doing. But like when you think of Fortnite right now in 2025 to start off the year, collaborations with different IPS, not being afraid to bring them in and being able to bring them in right now, having a battle royale that has stood the test of time and is still playable and still happening, how malleable.

[A]

It is as a video game right.

[B]

Now, the ability to create with inside of their world and having this Fortnite user created content is crazy to think about, right? Them adding a Rocket League racing a for a Guitar Hero type stuff like this game right now is changing the world. I, I think it's, I think it's going to be up there and I think it should be up there.

[C]

I think maybe some of the negative impact that it has on the industry might be the thing that 45 feels right, okay? Because I can't deny how big it is, but also how much of a cancer it is for all these other companies who are constantly trying to chase that and then well that's success.

[B]

And then yeah, that's the conversation industry because of it is people now the big money grubbing CEOs are saying make this, make this when they shouldn't be. They should be encouraging people and fostering these development teams to make something great that they want to create. Right. But we're chasing dollars. And, like, are we really holding that against Fortnite because they're changing other people's minds.

[A]

I don't think the one thing I'll hold against Fortnite and I. And I'm not even holding it against it, I think it is something to acknowledge is that it is the king of seeing a mechanic or seeing something else that, like, another smaller game is doing and being like, oh, we're gonna take that. We're gonna take that. Right.

[C]

Like, I made this.

[A]

And, like, honestly, it does that to games big and small in ways where I'm like, all right, sure. Like, you could take whatever thing from Apex. You could take the. You know what the rest system from a Realm Royale or do whatever. Right. But, like, at the end of the day, it is competition. I think it only gets scummy when it is like, oh, we're gonna make it among us mode. And not even, like, talk to the among us people are doing any of that. I think it has had its missteps in that regard. But overall, when you're talking about impact, I still do think that the Fortnite impact supersedes all of that. Right. Like, year, decades from now, we're still going to be talking about Fortnite in the way that the. In the way that it changed the industry and the things that it's done. Right. Battle passes, what you talked about. Or, like, the malleability of it. Right. Like bringing Lego into it. We might still be talking about Fortnite as a present thing decades from now.

[B]

Yeah, right. You're.

[A]

It's going to be fucking ESPN and Disney and all this shit.

[B]

The audience has brought up cross play. Forcing the hand of Sony into cross play as well as a big deal.

[A]

Yeah, that's huge.

[B]

Pushing these companies to work together. I just. If I'm picking one, that's my one.

[A]

I can see that.

[B]

I think we do have to have a real honest conversation about that one.

[A]

One.

[B]

Because that. That is no doubt crazy in my mind.

[A]

Yeah, we talked about Zelda Ocarina. Right? Like, that should be on the list. I would kick off. Like, that's the thing is, I think you don't want to go more than two. That's the problem with Breath of the Wild, Ocarina and Link to the Past. All, I think, being legitimate contenders in that conversation is that, like, then you get into three of three games of the same franchise and you gotta pick two. I. Not that you gotta pick two, but I think they wanted to pick two. They didn't want to have three of those in there.

[B]

Bear, what do you got? Give me one or two. Let's talk about it.

[C]

I would put Red Dead two way lower. I think is like one that stands out to me. And I would put Link to the Past much higher. That's really all I got right now.

[A]

Yeah. As I'm scrolling through, though, again, like, the top of this list is so strong. Right. That 30 to 30 to 50 is so strong. Get into Sonic the Hedgehog 2 at number 35. Man, that's so good. You know what I mean?

[B]

I can make conversations for League of Legends as well. I think could be higher on this list. Man, it's good. Celeste is a big poll. I like that. I love that we highlighted Batman.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the Sims. Starry Valley. Good picks. Tony Hawk.

[B]

Great. Yeah.

[A]

They have such. They have a lot of.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Pokemon on this.

[A]

They have a lot of goodness on this list.

[B]

It all felt right.

[A]

Pokemon did feel low. But yeah, like, it being on the list, I think is a. Is a perfect call my personal ones. Street Fighter 2, as much as I love fighting games, number 14 seems a little high.

[B]

Okay, my.

[A]

But it should be on the list.

[B]

The only ones that I would call out on the list that I could see being erased on the list to make new room. These are my personal ones, would be the two sports games and would be Tony Hawk.

[A]

You would take Tony Hawk off the list.

[B]

I could see myself taking off Tony Hawk. I wouldn't like one of two of the sports games. That's. That's where I would be. That's what I was. I'd be like, those would be the three.

[C]

I would take Tony Hawk off the list to put Tony hawk Pro Skater 2 on the list.

[A]

If we're Rolling Stone and we're having this conversation right now and Mike is like, we don't need Tony Hawk on the list. That's where I tackle Mike. Stella.

[B]

Stella, come on in here.

[A]

Why the fuck are we not playing Marvel Rifles yet? What the fuck we got. You've been begging. You've been begging. You've been asking. It's a top. The audience. Are you done with them talking? Can we go play now? I've been waiting. The audience was to hear me Mike talk about. No, they don't. They love this. You know, me and Mike don't get to hang out enough chat lists or Marvel Rivals lists or Cloak and Daggers. But here's the thing, Stella. We talked about the top 15 games of all time. Stella, you know what's not on this list of top 50 games Marvel rivals. Think about that. Okay? And it's new. That's why. Okay. Are we really going with Rolling Stones list? They have a great. Listen. Is it actually a good list? You make a list and we'll react to it on the show and we'll see if it's better than Rolling Stones list. Okay, I'll make a list of people I like and you're not going to be on it. So it's already great. Wow. Wow, Right? Change it for Marvel Rivals. Me and Stellar Boxing. Yeah, we're boxing. And I'm gonna knock you the out.

[B]

Oh, snap.

[A]

I feel like this is. I feel like Mike Tyson in the Paul Brother right now. Where I'm like, what's he doing in there? It's all fun and games till she starts bullying you. Huh? I know. Everybody celebrates her. When she bullies me, she starts bullying you guys. Oh, it's a big deal. Until I can stop picking you up like a baby. You gotta listen to me, baby. Damn.

[B]

To the gym with her. You gotta get in the gym.

[A]

That's true. I gotta go to the gym. Yeah. All right, let's wrap this up. Just a moment where I'm like, all right, cool. We're playing my room right now.

[B]

It's right.

[A]

Any final thoughts on this list?

[B]

This is a great list. This made us laugh, this made us think, this made us question some. But overall, you gave us 50 great games and you did a good job. Rolling Stones. You really, whoever was in that room, you did a great job on this one. There's some that didn't make the list that probably should have made the list. But you know what? All in all, this is 50 good to great games.

[A]

Need more. Mario needed Starcraft or Mario. Let me read off some of the last super chats we got here. CJ splits and says Mass Effect question mark. Pokemon Red and Blue question mark was in. Yeah, Mass Effect 2 was in, but I think they wanted their specific entry.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Roberto writes in and says third person action games like DMC3, 5 or even Milgar Rising not being on here is a crime. Listen, I love Melga Rising as much as the next guy. It's not on here. It's not gonna matter.

[B]

That guy, when he did the thing and he started talking through his butt like no.

[A]

And Meliorizing started talking to his.

[B]

Oh, I'm thinking Revengeance.

[A]

No, that's the game. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

When the, when the president was doing that and he did. He did.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, like he looked through it I pictured like. Like his butt was the mouth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Right. Guy says, no, Portal is insane. A cake is a lie took over the world. And Glado song made a cameo in Rock Band, for God's sake. I agree with that. Should have been there. Should have been Portal on the list. Poopy Pants writes in. It says breath of the Wild started Switch era, which probably plays a part. Yang Fam says, is there a top worst release game tier list? That would take a lot of studying that nobody's ever done. Okay. Like diving into the worst games ever on Steam.

[B]

Oh, it's tough.

[A]

You can't. Tough one.

[B]

There's a lot. There's a lot.

[C]

You lose your sanity.

[A]

I'll bring in one more. Snugs writes in and says, unrelated, we need to see Stella and bless Play the mind. Stella would beat the out of me if we played the mind by round two. Like, Stella's like, just pounding me.

[B]

You be in a headlock.

[A]

I'll be in a headlock for sure. So. Yeah, let's make that happen.

[B]

Mike, no Assassin's Creed games.

[A]

Good, good. Yeah. No Assassin. That's. That's a little surprising, I guess.

[B]

Not one Assassin's Creed game. There's so much fun. Leave some comments down below. What were the games that were missed? That's what we really want to know.

[A]

Yeah. What were the games that are missing on this list? Let us know in the comments below. Until next time. Did I ever throw to ad? Yeah. No, I did. Thank God. Okay. I've been blessed. That's been Mike. That's been Barrett. Until next time. It's been our pleasure to serve you.

[B]

See you.