The 25 Best Superhero Movies of All Time - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast
Episode: The 25 Best Superhero Movies of All Time
Release Date: August 12, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of the Kinda Funny Gamescast, hosts Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Blessing Adeoye Jr., and Barrett Courtney delve into the realm of superhero cinema. Centered around Esquire’s freshly published list by Eric Francisco titled "The 25 Best Superhero Movies of All Time", the hosts critically analyze and debate the rankings, offering their own insights and preferences.

Unveiling the List

The conversation begins with the trio acknowledging the complexity of ranking superhero movies, given the vast array of films spanning different genres and eras. Greg Miller remarks, “There is a public understanding to an extent of what we're talking about. We're not trying to get cute with this list.” (16:05).

Blessing Adeoye Jr. adds, “The Incredibles is going to be the first thing I was going to say, as far as, like, yeah, I think we're.” (19:10), highlighting the challenge of balancing mainstream MCU entries with standout films outside the franchise.

Breaking Down the Rankings

The hosts proceed to dissect the list, starting from number 25 and moving upwards. Their reactions range from amusement to frustration as they encounter unexpected placements.

• Number 25: Thunderbolts
  Greg Miller expresses surprise, “Wow.” (48:56), while Blessing Adeoye Jr. comments, “Thunderbolts.” (48:57), indicating skepticism about its position.

• Number 24: Shazam
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. dismisses its placement, stating, “At number 24, no fucking shot. We have Shazam.” (49:20), suggesting it doesn't warrant a spot on the list.

• Number 23: Super (2010)
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. describes it as a "pitch black dark comedy" and is intrigued by James Gunn’s involvement, “I need to watch this.” (49:53).

• Number 22: Thor: Ragnarok
  While Greg Miller appreciates the diversity, Barrett Courtney voices, “That's too recent.” (53:34), doubting its inclusion.

• Number 21: Watchmen (2009)
  Greg Miller urges listeners to watch it, “But I also get. I think there's just too much baggage at this point.” (50:45), emphasizing its complexity.

• Number 20: Superman II (1980)
  The inclusion of this classic sparks frustration. Blessing Adeoye Jr. exclaims, “I don't know.” (51:07), and Greg Miller laments, “I hate it, but I get it.” (63:33).

• Number 19: Avengers: Endgame
  A contentious spot, with Blessing Adeoye Jr. asserting, “Endgame is way higher than this.” (51:58), reflecting widespread admiration that contrasts with its low ranking.

• Number 18: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume Two
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. admits dissatisfaction, “I hate this list so far.” (52:40), despite acknowledging significant moments within the film.

• Number 17: Shin Kamen Rider
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. expresses respect, “I respect it so much.” (53:25), intrigued by its unique take on the genre.

• Number 16: Hellboy (2004)
  Greg Miller categorizes it as not meriting a top spot, stating, “Not top eight. Definitely not top eight.” (59:06).

• Number 15: Captain America: The Winter Soldier
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. praises its depth and execution, “It's fucking good.” (55:16), highlighting its blend of espionage and superhero elements.

• Number 14: The Crow (1995)
  Greg Miller admits unfamiliarity but acknowledges its cult status, “57:39”.

• Number 13: Logan
  A point of contention, Greg Miller is visibly upset, “62:51”, while Blessing Adeoye Jr. believes it deserves a higher ranking.

• Number 12: Batman (2022)
  Dismissed heavily by the hosts, with Greg Miller labeling it a “boring ass movie” (56:38), though acknowledging Barrett Courtney’s differing view.

• Number 11: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
  Celebrated by Greg Miller as superior, “56:26”, yet they express frustration at its low placement.

• Number 10: Batman (1989)
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. concedes interest but remains critical, “60:03”.

• Number 9: X2: X-Men United
  Highly regarded by Greg Miller, “57:30”, though it surprises to see it ranked at number nine over deeper favorites like Logan.

• Number 8: Unbreakable
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. notes, “It's a weird list.” (59:07), indicating mixed feelings about its inclusion.

• Number 7: Wonder Woman (2017)
  Greg Miller respects its quality but disputes its top ten placement, “59:29”.

• Number 6: Black Panther (2018)
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. acknowledges its significance, “60:48”, but remains conflicted by its position relative to other MCU entries.

• Number 5: The Incredibles
  Universally praised by the hosts, highlighting its unique place in superhero cinema.

• Number 4: Avengers (2012)
  Recognized as a pivotal moment in the MCU, but still controversial in its ranking.

• Number 3: The Dark Knight
  Greg Miller champions it as a top-tier superhero film, “61:22”, lamenting its lower placement.

• Number 2: Spider-Man 2 (2004)
  Blessing Adeoye Jr. definitively disagrees with its ranking, “62:42”.

• Number 1: Superman (1978)
  The most contentious placement, with Blessing Adeoye Jr. vehemently opposing it, “63:04”, deeming the list a "shit list."

Host Reactions and Disagreements

Throughout the discussion, Greg Miller and Blessing Adeoye Jr. express significant dissatisfaction with the rankings, particularly the high placement of older or less acclaimed films like Superman (1978) and Batman (2022). They argue that their personal favorites, such as Logan and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, deserved higher spots, highlighting a disconnect between their views and the list's order.

Blessing Adeoye Jr. states, “This is a shit list.” (64:30), underscoring the hosts’ frustration with the perceived misjudgments in the rankings.

Conclusion

By the episode's end, the hosts maintain their critical stance on Esquire’s list, advocating for a reevaluation of what truly constitutes the best in superhero cinema. They acknowledge the subjective nature of such rankings but emphasize the importance of recognizing films that have left a lasting impact on the genre.

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Notable Quotes:

• Greg Miller: “Endgame is way higher than this.” (51:58)
• Blessing Adeoye Jr.: “I hate this list so far.” (52:40)
• Blessing Adeoye Jr.: “This is a shit list.” (64:30)
• Greg Miller: “The Dark Knight is number three. Logan is number fucking, God knows what. Into the Spider-Verse already happened. What the hell could they possibly put in one and two?” (61:38)

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Timestamp References

For ease of reference, here are the key timestamps mentioned in the summary:

• 16:05
• 19:10
• 48:56
• 49:20
• 49:53
• 53:34
• 50:45
• 51:07
• 63:33
• 51:58
• 52:40
• 59:06
• 55:16
• 57:39
• 56:38
• 59:29
• 60:03
• 60:48
• 61:22
• 62:42
• 64:30
• 61:38

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the hosts' critical examination of Esquire’s "The 25 Best Superhero Movies of All Time" list, highlighting their passionate disagreements and personal preferences within the superhero film landscape.

Transcript

[Greg Miller]

Foreign.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yo, what's up? Welcome to Kind of Funny Games cast for August 12, 2025. I'm one of your host, Blessing Addie. Oh yeah. Junior. Joining me is the Croix, Poppy, Tim, Ma Boy, Yetis.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, man. Very excited for a shitless day.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Shitless Tuesday as they call them.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

When we do them on Tuesdays.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Shitless Thursday. But you know.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Exactly, exactly. I'm excited. Do the very rare non video game related shit list.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Which I can't remember if we've done before. We must have done.

[Greg Miller]

We must have at some point. I mean we've done so many shit lists that I'm sure that we did like we ran out of or we had some extra time. So it's like, oh, let's do this other list. But yeah, people are always sending a shit list to cover and it, it's hard because we can't look at the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So that's part of the fun is like we, we don't know the quality of the list. That's the point of the whole show.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

But like sometimes it's like we don't know if we're going to get just a straight dud of a topic. But every once in a while you see something, you're like, there's something here. And this is just such an obvious slam dunk.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh yeah. And I think the fun thing about shit list in the post, post show era because we used to do shit list but it was like 15 minutes long. We would speculate for a couple of minutes and then get into it and it was done and done over. Now that we have full games cast, we can get into these slightly longer lists and then do longer speculation.

[Greg Miller]

It's fun.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There are certain lists like this one today where I'm more excited about the spectators, the conversation.

[Greg Miller]

For sure.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so let's not waste time. Let's get right into it because remember, this is the kind of funny games cast.

[Greg Miller]

Well, no, because it's also kind of a kind of funny screencast.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, let's lean into it. There we go. Thank you, Barrett. Barrett's changed the set.

[Greg Miller]

We're. We're going to post this on the screencast feed because we will be talking about superhero movies and, and, and TV shows and things like that. But we'll also post on the games cast feed because you guys are expecting something. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You guys expect a daily games cast. This is kind of filling both buckets for us. But this is the kind of funny screencast each and every weekday we get together and talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games on the Gamescast, live on YouTube, Twitch and on podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with the Kind of Funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show for a chance to be a part of the show. Some of your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. Housekeeping for you. We're an 11 person business all about live talk shows. So right before this was KFGD where we Talked about Helldivers 2 and Halo Crossing over. And then after this screencast you're gonna get Mafia the Old country with Nick who's been having a blast playing this game.

[Greg Miller]

Apparently hilarious.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

If you're a Kind of funny member, today's Greg Way is coming at you from Tim. Thank you to our Patreon producers Carl Jacobs, Omega Buster and Delaney the Psalm Twining. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays and Aura Frames, but we'll tell you about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show.

[Greg Miller]

Before we get to that though. Yes, since this is a screencast, I have free reign to just talk about things on tv, movies and trailers. So I want to do that for just a little bit before we get to the topic at hand, the shit list itself. Before the show started, we're kind of talking about a couple recent shows that have been coming out that a lot of people have been asking our opinions on. I want to start with King of the Hill.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

King of the Hill, Back of the Hill for a new season, season 14, which when I tell you, when I went on Hulu and I saw that they just added it as a new season as opposed to doing a reboot, I was like, I appreciate that. Yeah, that's a really fun way of doing it.

[Greg Miller]

So what is your history with King of the Hill?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Very little. I it was on tv. I, I as a kid I watched Adult Swim all the time. But King of the Hill was never one that really grabbed my attention. However, my friends, my friends really liked King of the Hill and they would talk about it often, but I would like watch an episode here or there and it was never like a oh I hate the show kind of thing. It was never that, it just never really aligned directly with my tastes so I just always skipped it. But now I think the 31 year old version of myself is more likely or like, I guess more Aligned with watching King of the Hill.

[Greg Miller]

Barrett, you just popped up.

[Barrett Courtney]

You're the target audience now. Also, the set isn't right. Hold on. This is also old.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, man.

[Barrett Courtney]

Let's go. Let me see if I can find it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm gonna find it. We're gonna find it.

[Barrett Courtney]

You know, let's go.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Here.

[Barrett Courtney]

Let's turn that off.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There we go. Ah, there we go.

[Greg Miller]

There we go. Okay, I like that. I like that. Of course, King of the Hill, everyone's favorite anime.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Everybody loves the King of the Hill anime.

[Greg Miller]

No, I do. It is funny you say that, Barrett, for the. The memes and all of it. But also, I associate King of the Hill and Barrett so closely, mainly because, like, I am so enamored by Andy's impressions that he does. Yeah, I'm enamored by Nick's impressions for a completely different reason, because they're absolute garbage. Barrett's King of the Hill impressions make me laugh every time.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What was it? Bobby. Bobby. That boy, right?

[Greg Miller]

It's just so fucking.

[Barrett Courtney]

That's really good.

[Greg Miller]

All right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's really good.

[Greg Miller]

What about the purse? That's my purse.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't know you.

[Barrett Courtney]

I can't do a good Bobby anymore.

[Greg Miller]

But it's so fucking funny. Anyway, you.

[Barrett Courtney]

My Bobby turns into Toad now.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, it gets there eventually. But I. I was interested in this King of the Hill reboot, like, just lightly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Because I grew up with King of the Hill, but it was always. Kevin and I were just talking about this before the show too. Like, when it was first. When we were first watching it, it was definitely the show we didn't want to watch. It was definitely the show that it was on. We're like, ah, man. Like, it clearly wasn't for us, for these little kids. Pretty quickly, though. Like, I would say once we got even into, like, high school stage, watching the show, it's like, oh, we were just dumb kids that didn't get it. Like, this is some really good stuff. And I'm two episodes into the new season, thrilled with it. I can't believe the quality of this show. Like, it's special, dude.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I've been loving the writing. I'm probably about four or five episodes in, and it's the lovely thing of. I love where they kind of place it because it is a time jump. Bobby is older and he's, like, in the workforce, and he's, like, a chef now, working for a sushi restaurant or, like a Japanese restaurant.

[Greg Miller]

Fusion restaurant.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Fusion restaurant kind of situation. And, like, what are the parents names again? Peggy and Hank and Hank, thank you. Peggy and Hank are like, back in the country after being overseas in Saudi Arabia, which sets, sets up. The first episode is being gold. Yeah, it's fucking gold.

[Greg Miller]

The heart of gold.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And they come back, they're like, oh, man, things have changed. They see a Boba spot in the airport and they're like, boba. They're just fucking bewildered. And they like, call a car and it's an Uber and they're like, oh, here's my id. And the dude, like, gets out to try and get their stuff. They get their bags and they just don't know what to do with any of it. They fudgeing see a. Like a poke stop or poke spot, and they're just like, what type of food is poke? Yeah. And it's them interacting with all these things. I think what I like about it is with a lot of these adult oriented cartoons, a lot of them are about, you know, current culture, pop culture, what goes on nowadays. I've also been watching the new season of south park, and I've been enjoying it. Right. But King of the Hill has somehow zeroed in in a way where I've never thought about how much the world has changed. In King of the Hills, I'm like, oh, I guess, yeah. There's a lot of things that since 2005 that have just culturally developed. Well, I think not noticed in that way.

[Greg Miller]

I think a lot to say about just how culturally relevant and timeless these characters are.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Where they are just such great archetypes of real people. And I think that putting these real people in scenarios where I feel like a lot of the original show was still based on the same concept, but with the actual time jump. A lot of the fears and concerns that Hank had, it's the reality now, you know, and that's kind of just the baseline. And the way episode one ends is just very compassionate. And it kind of just makes you feel good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It. It does make you feel.

[Greg Miller]

It hits you in a way where you're like, you know what? Like, the world's really right now, but if everyone watched this show, I think we could be a better people.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

1000%. Barrett is the king. Is the king of the hill. What. What have been your thoughts?

[Barrett Courtney]

I've been really enjoying it. Yeah, I'm only like three or four episodes in, just because it's been a really busy time of so many things to watch recently and to play. But, yeah, I think it cuts to what the show has kind of always been, you know, like, these are very normal ass Kind of conservative leaning people who, but still are just like, just trying to be good people and try to make sense of the world around them in really hilarious ways. To see Bobby and the kids be older and see how they have to now interact with their parents now as adults, I, I think it's been really fun and really special to see. I forget Dale's son's name, but Bobby's friend still just burst out loud laughing because it's like, you know, it's been a while. It's like, okay. Does he finally realize that he's not white and that he's Native American? He's like, nope. Yeah, Joseph. He's like, it's the only white band on my crew. And it's like someone else looks at him like, wait, what? And Bobby Hills is like, nope, just don't.

[Greg Miller]

Leave it, Leave it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's so funny.

[Greg Miller]

So good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There's an episode where Hank and Bobby get into like a beer making competition. And I won't. I'm not gonna spoil anything, right? But like, my favorite aspect of it is like, Hank being so upset how beer is gone, where everything has to be flavored. He walks through a bar, he's like, do you have any, any beard that's not trying hard not to taste like beer?

[Greg Miller]

And he's so earnest, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So.

[Greg Miller]

And the writing is, it's very, it's whip smart. Like, ah, I'm so into it. Alex Frazier, super chat saying the new season of King of the Hill is the best one yet. Yeah, and that's, that's awesome, man. I mean, I'm having a great time with it. Like, it's, it's very cool. We also have a super chat from Rainmaker's Quest saying, are you guys excited for Alien Earth? First two episodes premiere tonight and then it's weekly after that on fx, which means Hulu. I was excited for it and then the initial kind of press review seemed a little bit lower on it. And now, now that like the full reviews are coming out, everyone seems very high on it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So nice.

[Greg Miller]

I'm like, all right. It's been kind of a pre release roller coaster for me, but yeah, I'm gonna, I'm planning to watch it tonight and I'm excited to, to see where it goes. But Eric Goldman, I want to say, gave it a 10 and I trust Eric Goldman, so also shout out.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

IGN gave King of the Hill 10, which is crazy.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, that was another reason I was like, I'm going to give this a shot, you know, And I'm happy.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I Did you've also been giving Isaac Wakanda a shot?

[Greg Miller]

I have. I am halfway through Eyes of Wakanda. It it. For people that don't know Isaac Wakanda is a four episode animated show on Disney plus. It's an anthology series that takes. Well, I don't know if that's the right way to phrase it, but it's a series that takes place throughout history of Wakanda. It's a time anthology.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

There's a lot of time jumps, timethology. And I think it dropped last week. Bear. It's very in the style of Tales of the Jedi or Tales of the Sith and all that stuff.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

It's like a side thing.

[Barrett Courtney]

Little short stories that kind of draw out a little bit more of the history of the country.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. And I'm really into it. So there's four episodes total. I've seen two. Watched both of them last night. I was only planning on watching one, but then I was watching episode one. I was like, this is fine. It's. It's good, easy content to watch. It's nothing. It isn't blowing me away. Parts of the art style I love. Some of the character designs I don't like at all. So I'm kind of like torn on it. But when it ended I was like, oh, I wonder if they're going to have this kind of like framework for the season. I'm gonna watch a little bit of episode two and I watch them like, oh, I think they're doing something cool. And episode two was very impressive to me. I was like, this is awesome. I can't wait to watch the next two over the next couple days. But yeah, as Wakanda, it's a fun one. And I, I'm just, I'm very impressed that we can tell these type of stories and that Wakanda can get so much love in ways that. With characters that aren't of consequence, that aren't of ones that we, we know of necessarily from the Marvel side of things. But they're telling like cool stories that like, I mean just top level pitch of what this is. It's Wakanda sending people out, sending their own Wakandans out to the rest of the world to retrieve stolen Wakanda tech from over the generations because they have to make sure that nothing from Wakanda is outside. And there's a handful of things that have somehow slipped out and it's like, that's a cool premise, you know. And so far they've really delivered on it. So I. I would recommend it. And we also have a super chat from Kinetic saying Ironheart in review when there's zero chance of that happening. One we don't do in reviews for TV shows anymore. But even a screencast. I'm the only person at the Office that watched Ironheart.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I watched the first episode.

[Barrett Courtney]

Was it good?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I just didn't enjoy it as much. Yeah, I kind of is. One of the Marvel TV shows have been so hit or miss for me, where I kind of hit the point where I'm like, if it's not blowing me away, then I just don't need to watch it. Sadly, Secret Invasion as well.

[Greg Miller]

So Ironheart, definitively not a hit, definitively not a miss. It is in that kind of, like, it's pretty good state. I will say there are things about it that I am incredibly shocked Marvel did. There's some cool character choices. They've done stuff with a hero that they've never done before, and I think is it works out very well. It's going to be divisive to people that watch it. I don't think many people are, but there's some cool stuff. And it's not just, oh, characters show up and like, oh, whatever, that stuff happens too, but the actual story and like the character of Riri, I'm like, oh. By the time of the show ends, I'm like, I hope we see her again. Because the character that she is is unlike any other Marvel hero we've had before. So Ironheart, I put on the it's pretty good list. And if there was a Season 2, I'd be stoked to watch it. I'm gonna watch most or every MCU thing anyway, so I know that's not like a glowing appraisal, but I'd be excited to watch a season two.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm gonna put that on my. My background list of there are shows that I watch while I, like, make magic decks and just to have on and like it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I tried watching the new season of Donda dawn while putting together a magic deck. Did not work. Absolutely focus on Donda Don. That's a show I need to. I need to re watch the episodes and just focus in on it because I totally lost track. King of the Hill was very able to watch that and do the magic card thing. Right. Like, there are certain shows where work, certain ones where it doesn't. I might put that on in the background.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It doesn't sound like it's a straight dud light.

[Greg Miller]

Liam Neely is saying, same time they created one of the best, most fleshed out MCU villains. Alden is amazing. He. Yeah, like, there's. There's a lot of good. Really good stuff in Ironheart. It's just surrounded with a lot of pretty okay things. And so I think overall, we're just at a point that I'm not looking for okay. In superhero TV shows or movies like I'm looking for, at the very least. Great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Well, speaking of superhero movies, we got a list for the topic of the show, which is a shit list. I go online, I find a top 10 list, or in this case, a top 25 list. I bring it back to Barrett and Tim, and we judge it for your amusement. Today's list is the 25 best superhero movies of all time. This is written by Eric Francisco at Esquire. It was published July 22, 2025. So just a few weeks ago. So this is some fresh shit. Okay. Some of that fresh shit.

[Greg Miller]

So that means it could include this latest run of superhero movies if they were so inclined.

[Barrett Courtney]

Oh, wow.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You're talking about Fantastic four, Superman, Superman. Ye.

[Greg Miller]

Captain America, Brave New World.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, well, let's not. All right, top 25.

[Greg Miller]

So here's the thing where I want to start. We always try to define the parameters of the list. Right. If you're doing a top 25 comic book movies of all time, is comic book or superhero?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Superhero.

[Greg Miller]

Superhero. Superhero. Cool. 25 Best Superhero Movies of all time. That is a statement that I feel gets into that thing of when we talk about video games, it's like, all right, they're going to think about franchises in a certain way of, like, representation. Right. Of. You don't want to have every 2D Mario take up a top 10 list. Right. They're going to balance things out.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Is that a problem, though, in superhero movies? I know Marvel has.

[Greg Miller]

Has a lot, I think, in the sense of when you're talking about 25. We've had so many amazing superhero movies of different genres and takes that. If this list had both Batman begins and Dark Knight and into the Spider versus and across the spider verse, I'd be surprised. Just because there's so many things that they need to touch on and represent. When we're talking about 25 best superhero, I think.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think they. The natural thing with this list is we don't have the problem that we have, like. Like the Nintendo list, for example, where it is. Yeah. You get to the top and is it going to be for. Did you guys hear sirens just now?

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, sirens.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Are sirens are on our end. Jesus. I don't. I don't think you're going to have the Nintendo problem or like the Rockstar Best Rockstar Games problem of having multiple GTAs or multiple Marios because they're not going to be stacked up in a row. I think there's enough variety to where you can have a top 10 that have like Dark Knight makes it, but Begins doesn't because there's so many things in between those two movies that I think would naturally separate them.

[Greg Miller]

But what gets troublesome there then is the people are going to look at Batman begins being number 23 on a list and be like, are you crazy? They. There's just something we need to all understand as we get in this conversation because I know it's going to get complicated and heated.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

All right. 25 is not that much.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's not.

[Greg Miller]

And 10 is even less. So coming up with a list of top 10 when we already have a bunch that we are like, oh, that's definitely top 10. That's definitely top 10. That's Definitely. They can't all be top 10. They can't all be top 25.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm so fascinated by what your view of the top 10 is. For me, I see it so clearly.

[Greg Miller]

We do so many in reviews and I hear our opinions. I see the chat. Like I knew where people are at with these movies.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And there's just. It's impossible to agree because of how many high quality ones we have at this point. And then you start going back to older things that are just timeless or classics and comparing a classic to modern best. And you got to put both. You got to have both things on the list. And that gets. You start to even more start running out of things where even just MCU coming up with 10 is very difficult. I don't think there's a unanimous answer.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I think that we're getting to the point that there's probably a unanimous. Obviously not truly unanimous, but a generally accepted top 20 that I think that we can get into a place that of MCU. Everyone looks at it and there's about 15 of them that are on everyone's list for MCU. Just MCU. But now we also had DC, we also had Sony. We also add. I mean, I don't know if this list is going to include not Marvel and dc, because what about Kick Ass? What about.

[Barrett Courtney]

Dude, I'm just superheroes. We're like, the Incredibles is going to be.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And the Incredibles is going to be the first Thing I was going to say, as far as, like, yeah, I think we're. I think we talk about those, and I think they easily make it onto the list. I think the Incredibles is better than most of the mcu. I think that's where I come into it, where. I mean, MCU is going to make up a lot of these movies. But I think because of the standout quality of, like, a lot of the movies that we have outside of the mcu, like, I think this will be easier than an MCU list.

[Greg Miller]

Let's start.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Not mcu, not mcu. Dark Knight.

[Greg Miller]

Let's start non Marvel, period.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Dark Knight.

[Greg Miller]

Like, none of the Spider man or anything. Dark Knight, Yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

None of the Spider man yet. Okay. I mean, I'll say the Incredibles.

[Greg Miller]

Yep, yep. Logan.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Logan.

[Greg Miller]

Actually, that's Marvel.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But yeah, let's say non mcu. I feel like non MCU is. Is easier. So in that case, I will say Spider Man 2, the original Spider Man 2 from my boy, Toby Mack.

[Greg Miller]

And again, here, we're not trying to make the list that we believe in. This is what.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Just the best.

[Greg Miller]

What we think is going to be on this list. And from that is trying to, again, go back to. You're speaking for the majority of people here.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Like, we are talking about the 25 best superhero movies. There is a public understanding to an extent of what we're talking about.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

We're not trying to get cute with this list. We're not trying to say something with this list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Is it too soon to say Superman, the new Superman? Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

That's not a top 25 best superheroes unanimously known as an 8 out of 10.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, you don't think it's top 25? No, I am not saying top 25.

[Greg Miller]

Goes by so fast. Bless.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

All right, we'll come back around to it. I mean, I think we start to nail down. I think Superman might make the list.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think it's one of those. Yeah, exactly. The list came out July 22nd. I feel like they might want to say something with this.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, my God, I hope not. That'd be crazy.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, well, before we get there, because I think there are clear better ones. Right into the spider verse.

[Greg Miller]

Yes. Yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Do we think across the spider.

[Greg Miller]

No, I don't think so.

[Barrett Courtney]

It better not, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Really?

[Barrett Courtney]

Ending in the middle.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's like that.

[Greg Miller]

So wrong.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's like that about a cross. Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think it's very.

[Greg Miller]

Every movie doesn't need to be the exact same format. We can. We can, you know.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, it can be bad formats. That's bad for storytelling within its own movie.

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yep.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And there's so many superhero movies. I'm excited to talk about this actually, because I get excited going through the carousel in my brain. That's not the word I was looking for. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Maybe I liked it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Of movies. And I'm like, kick ass ain't 25. Ain't top 25.

[Barrett Courtney]

It had its moment.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I like Kick Ass. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I love Kick Ass. It's. Kick Ass is amazing. And that's the problem is, like, thinking about representation and stuff. It's like, it could make the list. I don't think it has to make the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't think it has to make the list.

[Greg Miller]

But it could.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So that's another one. I would circle back around to very low.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like 25.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Blade. This is where I admit, never watched Blade.

[Greg Miller]

I've also never watched Blade.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

So I actually know it's blasphemy, but.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I know that's blasphemy.

[Greg Miller]

New ones too. I mean. Yeah, I know people do love Blade. I. Blade. I think it's. One would be the one that. That does make it on the list. But that's where we just start talking about, like, who's making the list and how I. Blade. Whatever. Right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm gonna write Blade down.

[Greg Miller]

I do think.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Because I know Blade is a classic. And when you're talking about movies to put Marvel on the map on the movie space. Blade is one of the ones. If not the one I think it was the one. Blade 1. Yeah. People are saying, are there.

[Greg Miller]

Superman 1978 is going to be on this list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And it's going to be high on the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Superman 1978. Which one? I put 1879. Which one is the one where he flies around the earth to. That's one. I like that movie. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. But I like that part. I was like, that's ridiculous. That's not time.

[Greg Miller]

Shockingly. That's Superman.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's seven I've written down so far. And we're. Again, we're keeping for to outside the mcu. Do any of the X Men make the list? You have to have at least one.

[Greg Miller]

Logan on there already.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, you're right. Yeah. Logan is on there.

[Barrett Courtney]

Should be on there. Logan should be high as well.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm gonna say the words days of Future past just to see what you guys say.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I. I think that. Yeah. When people. When we're talking about the general populace. X2X Men United and X Men Days of Future Past are the standout x Men titles.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

X2. I love X2. I could see which one. Yeah. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I. I feel like we could put both, like, just for the sake of.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

For the sake of getting them there.

[Greg Miller]

Of, like, ones that might be there. I don't think any other X Men movie makes the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Two in Days of Future Past, how do you guys feel about First Class?

[Greg Miller]

Because I remember liking people like First Class a lot.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, it just didn't have its, like, big moment. Like, people liked that new crew, but then, like, Days of Future Past was like the. Oh, the old guard and the new guard are all meeting.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, that was like a. I need to rewatch. First Class is great, though, because I want to say I liked First Class even more than Days of Future Past, but it's been. I've not watched it since I watched it in theater.

[Greg Miller]

Both movies are a case of highs and lows, of the good moments in each or pretty damn incredible. But some of the bad moments are like our boy Darwin, man. Like, it's like a. A sin that, I don't know any superhero movie has committed. One worse.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. I feel that in First Class, those.

[Barrett Courtney]

Are both movies that are carried by James MacAvoy and Michael Fassbender and their chemistry together and just how good they are as actors, you know?

[Greg Miller]

So good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So keeping outside of mcu. I mean, let's talk about dc. Let's talk about, like, the more modern.

[Greg Miller]

Dc, I guess, the Batman.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I would fight against it, but, yeah, I think for variety, I could see it making it. I don't think the. I guess this is my hot take of the Batman. I don't think it's better than any of the Christopher Nolan ones.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I personally agree with you there, too, but I could see it.

[Barrett Courtney]

Being on the list just because I.

[Greg Miller]

Bet you if you rewatch it after Penguin, you'll like it more.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, because I like Penguin more than I liked it, even.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, maybe you're right. Yeah. I just found it boring, but. All right, I'll write it down. I'm gonna write it down. I mean, since we're writing that down, should I. Should I just write down Begins?

[Greg Miller]

Yes. I just don't see Begins making the list. I get such a short end of the stick, man. And it sucks because Begins got, like.

[Barrett Courtney]

A resurgence because people look back at it as, like, actually being a Batman movie and less so of, like, the. The other two, which feel a bit more like that's a Joker movie. Is the. The Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises is, you know, it is what it is.

[Greg Miller]

Sister is like, did not grow up with superheroes whatsoever. So she's just in more recent years been getting into them, like, and I, I got her into the mcu. She watched all that stuff and then she, she's always been interested in Batman. So she watched Dark Knight. Dark Knight became like her favorite movie ever. Watch arknight, Watch Dark Knight Rises. It wasn't two years later that she was like, man, I wish, I wish they would make more Nolan ones. And I was like, oh, yeah, the three. She's like, there's only two. I'm like, no.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh my God.

[Greg Miller]

There's a third. She didn't know Begins. Isn't that cool?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I wish that was.

[Greg Miller]

A prequel to the Dark Knight.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's amazing. That's fucking like, oh my God.

[Barrett Courtney]

This guy that he caught at the beginning of the movie was like a.

[Greg Miller]

Main villain in the first movie.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So sick. That shit would fucking blow my mind.

[Greg Miller]

But just naming wise, like, it makes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Sense if this, if. Here's what I'll say if the Batman is on this movie, because we're talking about, we're talking about the recent one with. Yeah, Twilight, man. Okay. If that's on this list and Begins isn't on this list, then I got beef with Esquire automatically. Yeah, automatically. I got B. That's all I'll say.

[Greg Miller]

I respect that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I, I don't think that for what this list is going for. Like, I think that they'd want the variety going back to what I'm saying. And the, the Batman is very well regarded.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

There are people that don't with the Nolan stuff. And this spoke to them for very similar reasons in terms of like, theming and darkness and all that.

[Barrett Courtney]

Even though it added absolutely.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

The Suicide Squad.

[Greg Miller]

No, no, no. I love it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I really like this.

[Greg Miller]

This is my. I don't really want to call this a hot take because I truly don't.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I guess when Guardians. It's hard.

[Greg Miller]

I need to rewatch the Suicide Squad to make sure I stand by what I'm saying here. But I think that Superman is the least great James Gunn superhero movie. And notice I said least great because I think he's only made great superhero movies.

[Barrett Courtney]

I mean, you're including the Suicide Squad in that list.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, that's the thing is I need to rewatch that. But I remember really, really liking that. And anytime I see clips of it pop up on Twitter and I watch them, I'm like, this is awesome. And then I think about how much I love the Peacemaker show. And it's like, there's just a lot of stuff. Really loved Superman.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Where do you fall in Guardians, too?

[Greg Miller]

I love Garden. We've talked about this before. Guardians 2 is, I will stand on this, I think, the best Guardians movie. But I also understand that that is not the majority opinion.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah. And I think that's mainly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I disagree, but I respect it.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think you disagree because I think the SoundTrack for Guardians 2 isn't as iconic as Guardians 1. I think Guardians 2 to me, is much more emotionally impactful and punching.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Really.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, that. That's the thing. I. I really feel like I say this, but it's. I've been proven wrong about it, barrett. But Guardians 2 is the type of movie you watch the first time you're like, ah, it's not as good as the first one. And then later when you watch it again, you're like, I was wrong. There's so much hard here. There's so much good stuff. So much of what I attribute to what I love about Guardians, it's actually better in two.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

See, Guardians 1 made me love those characters so much. And Guardians 3 for me, is the one that brought the heart. Guardians 2 for me is like, I remember some of the big comedic parts of the movie because that movie is very funny in part.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But the overall thing just didn't. Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

You should rewatch because to me, Guardians 3 was just continuing what 2 had already set up. You should give another shot.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Maybe I will. Maybe I will. More movies outside of mcu. More superhero.

[Barrett Courtney]

I want to throw out the one Zack Snyder film I actually enjoy, which is Watchmen.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, man. Barrett.

[Barrett Courtney]

People, I think ride for Watchmen, or as they should.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Watch great movie. Top ten.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm writing it down.

[Greg Miller]

Top ten.

[Barrett Courtney]

You think so?

[Greg Miller]

I do. I do. And the only thing against it, there's two. One, a Zack Snyder hate boner. People really don't like Zack Snyder.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think his visual direction works for that movie.

[Greg Miller]

I agree to. The Watchmen HBO show is. It's like the Penguins. It's so fudgeing good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

That I think that some people might be like, yeah, the movie wasn't that great. Whatever. But I fudge with the movie incredibly hard.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Just so I can say, say it. Chronicle.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, dude. I mean, personally, I like Chronicle. Should be very high on the list. Chronicle is one of, in my opinion, best written movies I've ever seen. And in terms of superheroes, does great, cool, unique things that we've now, seen, done a bunch of other times, but, like, there's so much about that movie that just rocks.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And also, it introduced the world in a bigger way to Michael B. Jordan. So thank you for that. And The Wire, Dane DeHaan, who's also awesome. And then there was the other guy.

[Barrett Courtney]

He's really.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We can write down Chronicle, because I think all of us here, like Chronicle. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I just don't know that they're going to put this on.

[Barrett Courtney]

I'd be interested to go back to watch that today if it holds up.

[Greg Miller]

Me and G watched it like it was at our last house. So it must have been like, six years ago, seven years ago. But, like, still, I've really loved it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, this movie isn't on the list, nor should it be, but I love that there's somebody in Chat that says, Hancock.

[Greg Miller]

That's hilarious.

[Barrett Courtney]

I fuck with Hancock, honestly.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I. I also with Hancock. Heavy. I watched. I watched it on my birthday, whatever year that was, that it came to theater and, like, I left happy another. A lot of other people didn't, but I left happy out of that theater.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay. Before. Is there more before we get to mcu? I'm sure there is.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, look, there's a lot of things that, like, could be there, because superheroes is very. There's just a lot.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. How far do we stretch that?

[Greg Miller]

I mean, let's just go through the big one. Superman.

[Barrett Courtney]

I.

[Greg Miller]

It'll only be Superman 1. It won't be man of Steel.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No.

[Greg Miller]

Batman.

[Barrett Courtney]

I could see them doing the recent Superman.

[Greg Miller]

I could also see them doing that, too. Let's put it down just so it's on the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay. Double list.

[Barrett Courtney]

Don't make me time you out. Putting in Leagues of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Get out of here.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, what a movie. Top 25. No, but what a movie.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We wrote down Blade Chat for the person asking, what about Big Hero 6? Oh, is that. Do we count that as a superhero movie?

[Barrett Courtney]

Yes.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, we count it. I don't think that it's top 25. I think that it's great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But I think. I look at Incredibles, and I'm like, yeah, Incredibles is. Is there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's fair.

[Greg Miller]

I don't know about Big Hero 6. Bigger.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I'm not trying to hate it on it at all. I just. I don't know about top 25.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

I could see a top 35.

[Greg Miller]

Sure.

[Barrett Courtney]

Not 25.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What about any of the Amazing Spider man or either of the Amazing Spider movies? I'm Glad we're all aligned because I do not. I forget when. I guess it was when I came to the Spider man in review. Like re review where I learned about the love for Amazing Spider man that people had. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, that's you.

[Greg Miller]

That it's me. Yeah. But I'm being realistic. It's not a top 25 superhero movie. We're talking about a greater public thing. I. I will say this a bazillion times. Amazing Spider Man 2 has the best Spider man moments in movies, period. It also has the worst ones.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And it has more of that than not shout out to Danahan and shout out to Dahan. But like the Gwen Stacy death and all that stuff.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean. Yes, dude.

[Greg Miller]

The opening of that movie, the ending of that movie, it. It's perfect.

[Barrett Courtney]

The spider web that reaches out like it's a hand blessing.

[Greg Miller]

It's goddamn art.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know what I. With that moment? I think that part is.

[Greg Miller]

There's a lot of moments in that movie that are sick though. The Times Square fight with. With Electro of him. The EMP happening and having to hit the thing to like save all the people from getting electrocuted on the time Square. There's so much with him, with the fire man's.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I will say I would love for them to revisit Amazing Spider. Like if they ever finally made Amazing Spider Man 3, I'd fuck with it. Because there's.

[Greg Miller]

I'd fuck with that. There's an Andrew Garfield. So. Goddamn.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Because I do. I do love the vibe and energy of the Amazing Spider man movies.

[Greg Miller]

This is hilarious that we're having this conversation right now because maybe a month ago there was a thing that went super viral on TikTok of this woman's boyfriend who was just yapping at her.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

About we could save the Amazing Spider man movies. There's something there. We could save them. And I have the idea. I have the vision. I am going to edit Amazing Spider Man 1 and 2 together into what we are calling the boyfriend. Cut. And everyone got behind this guy. Everyone got really excited about this. And then he documented kind of the process. Well, it was from her perspective of him going crazy doing the conspiracy theory stuff I have on my computer right now on my desktop.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No way.

[Greg Miller]

Schweizer Cut.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No way.

[Greg Miller]

I haven't watched it yet, but I'm very excited. But he straight up made a good movie out of the two movies. And at some point I'm gonna watch it.

[Barrett Courtney]

I want to shout out to. From the chat. Chillington says Mask of the Phantasm which is Batman. I think that could be up there. People regard that very highly.

[Greg Miller]

That's true. When we did Batman in review, I was. And we all were shocked at how much none of us really liked it. Like, it was cool.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You mentioning Batman made me think about animated movies. There's a world of DC animated movies.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, but like, to Barrett's point, like, he just brought up the one that's the one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There's not. What about. Is that. What about the flash point one?

[Greg Miller]

People like that. But that's not 20.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

[Barrett Courtney]

And then, like, I think people also like that comic, that story, but like, it adapted, you know?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, it's fine. All right.

[Barrett Courtney]

The last one I'll throw out that someone else in chat brought up is Hellboy. I think there's room for Hellboy. Hellboy 1. And that's all I'll say.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Calling that a superhero movie.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay.

[Greg Miller]

Did we do ads yet?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No. I mean, do you think it's worth. I was gonna bring an MCU real quick, but yeah, we can do ads.

[Greg Miller]

Let's do ads.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

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[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Our frames.com kind of funny and we're back.

[Greg Miller]

Ernie Cooper in the chat says you asked if people just hate watching. He says I'm hate watching because Tim said Superman's an 8. I don't understand how you could hate me saying Superman's an 8 because I.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Also I feel like most people I think I said, I said this on another piece of content. People are disagreeing but I feel like most people would say Superman's an eight.

[Greg Miller]

Most people have.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And we're saying that with empirical evidence of looking at most people saying things and the eight is by far the.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Most common response out of ten. What would you give Superman Let us.

[Greg Miller]

Know already says he's joking. I know you were joking. Obviously you're joking about the hate watching stuff already.

[Barrett Courtney]

Don't make me ban you.

[Greg Miller]

It's just, it's just funny to me because I'm just like the Superman Being an 8 I just feel like is like such a. Yeah, yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm seeing a lot. I mean I'm seeing a lot of numbers that Average out to 8 in chat. 898-889-7.578885 Chris Anka says he's definitely hate.

[Greg Miller]

Watching and then he also text me.

[Barrett Courtney]

Well that's deserved saying watchmen better than.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I I think a lot of movies are Better than Batman. I'm saying. I'm saying. I'm with you, Chris.

[Greg Miller]

I'm not necessarily saying that. I also think that Watchman's really good, though. But Chris, I want to know your top 10 superhero movies, because, like, Chris. Chris has a lot of thoughts about.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

My thoughts gonna be like, into the spider verse, but I want across the spider verse.

[Greg Miller]

He's a man of taste.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And then the third one we'll make after that.

[Greg Miller]

But I. I want. I want Chris's in review list personally for me.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, let's get into the MCU.

[Greg Miller]

All right, let's get.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Because right now we have 13 movies written down here, which means half this list is going to be made up of MCU movies. So let's fucking talking about it. Talking about it. Let's talk about it.

[Greg Miller]

Let's talk about it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I mean, the. Where do we start? Endgame.

[Greg Miller]

Well, Infinity War and Endgame.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And there's a lot of Endgame haters, but.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I hate them.

[Greg Miller]

I hate them, too. Movies can be different formats, although Infinity.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

War is, in my opinion, I like better than Endgame. I think a lot of people think that, though.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, I think Infinity War is a better movie, better move than Endgame, but I like Endgame more. But I think both. Both are top 25.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm just gonna write both of them at the top just because it's. Because I can.

[Greg Miller]

And again, this is where best gets complicated, because you start going through the MCU and it's like, is Iron man one of the best?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know what? I'm making a new.

[Greg Miller]

It's gonna be on this list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I imagine I'm making a new MCU list because it's hard to place these into the list we already made. I mean, I think that's a good contextualization. Right? These aren't best MCU movies. These are best superhero movies. And I think in that context, Iron man does make sense. I know it's a weird thing to quantify, but, like, Iron Man, I think, has to be the best superhero movies of all time.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

All right, next. Scarpino.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, this is the problem.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's not my favorite MCU movie, but, like, the best superhero movies. That was a moment. It was. And it led to tens of more moments of superhero movies coming out that were based off of it. That's the.

[Barrett Courtney]

The argument, though. It's like, ah, it's the movie that.

[Greg Miller]

Started it, but it's also really good. Really fucking great. The ends not great. Yeah, the end is amazing. The final Fights. Not that great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay. Infinity War. End game. I'm just gonna write down things. We'll come back to the numbering. Right. Iron Man. I think Black Panther is gonna be on the list.

[Greg Miller]

Mm.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Winter Soldier. Black Panther one.

[Greg Miller]

Specifically Winter Soldier.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Winter Soldier.

[Greg Miller]

Guardians one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Guardians one for sure.

[Greg Miller]

Thor. Ragnarok, I imagine, is there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes. Yeah. Spider Man Homecoming.

[Greg Miller]

The Spider man movies get complicated because, like, everyone's so all over the place with it. I think. I think it'll be no Way Home.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah. I think it's one or the other.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I do love no Way Home, but I want to say it's homecoming. I think there's something about it being, like, the Tom Holland. Like, this is his Spider man movie, and it lives up as, like, a singular authentic. It is him being a kid. It is him, like, going to. Going to homecoming. It is the interaction with Vulture where.

[Barrett Courtney]

He opens the door like, that was a moment.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's such an authentic Spider man movie.

[Greg Miller]

And I'll like, here's the thing. I'm with you. I love Tom Holland Spider man movies. All three of them. Adore those movies. You saying it's authentic, I think is the biggest criticism for that movie is a lot of Spider man fans that I don't agree with at all think that it's the least authentic Spider man movie ever. Because he's Tony Stark Jr. Yeah, yeah, sure. Depending on who's writing. And you're gonna fucking hate on this.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I understand that, like, critique of it.

[Greg Miller]

And then it's no Way Home, because that has Toy Maguire. Yeah. And so everyone's like, it's Toby.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

And he pops out of the portal.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, oh, I still don't know how to act. And Dr. Strange, here's my thing. Dr. Strange also has, like, a big part in no Way Home. And the next Spider man movie is going to be the Hulk. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

All the people have huge problems.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Punishment, Punisher.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Jesus Christ and Punisher.

[Greg Miller]

Right.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But I feel like in every single one of these movies, there's the adult figure that is the other guy from the MCU that's helping him do all these things. And I kind of like it as a staple. I understand that. Like, yeah. Oh, well, now.

[Barrett Courtney]

But yeah. Yeah. Like, I grew up with Ultimate Spider man like that. I had that growing up. And I think Homecoming captured kind of the core energy of what Spider man is about while doing some of the newer stuff from the comics.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm just gonna write down one of them Spider man movies.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

One of. One of them. One of them Holland. One of them Holland Spider man movies.

[Greg Miller]

And you know what?

[Barrett Courtney]

Shout out to Far from Home.

[Greg Miller]

Thank you.

[Barrett Courtney]

The least, the least good of the.

[Greg Miller]

Three, but still really good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know what, Jake Gyllenhaal, I with him. I agree with that.

[Greg Miller]

Everything involving Mysterio is absolutely inspired. Tying it back to The Iron Man 1 stuff, a fun little nod, like unnecessary.

[Barrett Courtney]

But I mean, like everybody, right? Like, they show a character from Civil War and like all this stuff, like.

[Greg Miller]

Great stuff using the barf tech, like coming up with ways to make Mysterio's power make sense in the world and then use them in the coolest way as possible. The snow globe scene.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, it's amazing.

[Greg Miller]

And you get to the end and him learning to use his spider sense. Oh my God, dude. Oh, it's so good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's real good stuff.

[Barrett Courtney]

Avengers, the chat says, where are all the Madame Web heads?

[Greg Miller]

Are there shots of Adam Web?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Is it pushing it to have three Avengers movies on this list? Because I think Avengers 1 does. Avengers 1 needs to be on this list.

[Greg Miller]

Avengers 1, in my opinion, needs to be on the list as well. There's a lot of critique of looks like a made for TV movie and stuff. Again, y'.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

All.

[Greg Miller]

What a fucking talk. Have some fun.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Avengers 1 was special. Yeah, that was a special moment in time. That's going to be on the list.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, but then it's. Yeah, three Avengers movies.

[Greg Miller]

But that's deserves it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It deserves it.

[Greg Miller]

It just simply does. Like, if we're just. If we're just being real about top 25 best superhero movies, like those three movies that we're talking about are radically different and representative of the times that they came out in like, such a great way.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yep.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Okay, what do we miss? So, so far for mcu, we got Infinity War, Endgame, Iron Man, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Guardians 1, Thor, Ragn. One of them Holland Spider man movies. Avengers. We see Civil War.

[Greg Miller]

No, Civil War doesn't get the love.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Civil War.

[Greg Miller]

So fucking it deserves it.

[Barrett Courtney]

But like, it's just unfortunately titled. They shouldn't have named it Civil War. I don't know what else you name it though. I just think when you name it that there is a certain weight and expectation people have from the comics. And so, like, what we got in that movie, people were like let down by in their heads. But what we got in that movie, still fudgeing great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We didn't even say Deadpool.

[Greg Miller]

Deadpool's rough for me because I. I think the Deadpool movies, all three of them in different ways, are incredible. Like, I think all three are top 25 on my. My Marvel list, at least. But Deadpool and Wolverine's too messy to. To be on it. Deadpool 2 did too many things. Deadpool 1, I think deserves.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think Deadpool. Yeah. Deadpool 1 would be my pick.

[Greg Miller]

I just don't know that's gonna be there, but I think it should.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think it. I think it will be. I think a lot of these are. How iconic were those releases at time of release? And I think one, like, did something right. I think it landed. It had that, like. I mean, it did the Deadpool thing of being over the top, being funny, being rated M or rated R, did all that. And it was a statement. It came out, and it had an impact.

[Barrett Courtney]

I think the first two Deadpool movies, or at least Deadpool 1, for me, I know it was a moment. That movie is way less interesting on, like, a second watch. Like, I think a lot of that movie, I think, is driven by, like, surprise and kind of, like, in your face kind of. And I think as a movie, it's just, like. It's fun.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So if you. If we list two more movies, then we've hit 25. We can just list the other two Spider Man Holland movies and call it a day.

[Greg Miller]

I mean. I mean, let's just think if we're missing something, anything here.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Like, is there a Hulk movie on the list? I don't think so.

[Greg Miller]

No Hulk, no Fantastic Four.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We hit the Captain America movie with Winter Soldier. Yeah. We said Iron Man 1. We got the Avengers. I mean, well, hold on. You said Fantastic Four. Would this have been after the latest Fantastic Four movie?

[Barrett Courtney]

This was the Distance. July 22nd week of question mark.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, either way, it ain't top 25.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah, it's not.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, I agree.

[Greg Miller]

Another eight out of 10, but not top 20.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Another eight out of 10. But I feel like Superman is more.

[Greg Miller]

If one. If one of those is gonna be.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

On this list, it's Super Superman. Yeah. Yeah. Thunderbolts. I think it could be thunderbolts.

[Greg Miller]

Shout out to Thunderbolts. It's not top 25, and I don't think they.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's top 25 in my heart.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't know, man, but it's not a lot of people, I think. I think the freshness of it could get it on, maybe. I think it being fresh on the brain and people loving thunderbolts.

[Barrett Courtney]

Chat's yelling, Logan.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We. We have. We have Logan. We have Logan.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, we got Black Panther as well.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm writing down thunderbolts.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, go for it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

We'll see.

[Barrett Courtney]

I love it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, Shang Chi.

[Greg Miller]

I love Shangchi. It's not top 25, though.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, man. I wanted to be the biggest problem with.

[Greg Miller]

There's two problems with Shangchi, Aquafina, and. Which is, like, something that I feel like people just won't get over. Like, if you don't like Aquafina to a certain level, you just can't get past.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What's funny is, like, I'm not the biggest Awkwafina fan, but I don't think about her being in that movie. It's very much the thing of. I kind of. I really just tune her out.

[Greg Miller]

And the big CG Dragon Fest at the end.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, that was. That was a lot. All right, I think we can just roll. Let's get into it. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, Carl Urban's Dread. That's a great answer.

[Barrett Courtney]

Oh, people love that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

All right, there we go. That's our 25. So the list that we have written down here are the Dark Knight, the Incredibles, Logan. Spider Man 2 Into the Spider Verse Blade. Superman, 1978 x 2 Days of Future Past, the Batman, Watchmen Chronicle. Superman 2025, Dread. And then for the MCU picks, Infinity War, Endgame. Iron Man, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Guardians 1. Thor, Ragnarok, 1 of them Holland. Spider Man Movies. Avengers, Deadpool, Thunderbolts. Let's get into the proper list. As written by Esquire, published July 22, the 25 best superhero movies of all time. Number 25 is Thunderbolts.

[Greg Miller]

Wow.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Thunderbolts.

[Greg Miller]

Hey, cool. Whatever. Not gonna be mad.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And look at number 25.

[Greg Miller]

This is the type of list that I don't want people getting cute. Don't try to say something. Whatever. But if you're gonna try to say something in the time we're in right now, in 2025, with where movies are at. Yeah, Put thunderbolts in it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Put thunderbolts in that.

[Greg Miller]

That's perfect. That's perfect. Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number 24, no fucking shot. We have Shazam.

[Greg Miller]

Shut up. Really?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Shazam.

[Greg Miller]

Look, I liked Shazam.

[Barrett Courtney]

That's a fun movie, but.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. I feel like out of the movies that we listed, it's hard for me to put Shazam over any of them. But I digress. It's not a bad movie at all. Wild at number 23, we got super from 2010.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, I never saw it.

[Barrett Courtney]

I was thinking about it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It was the James Gunn joint.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Who wrote that?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

He wrote Super.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Well, I can read the thing here right before James Gunn made his mark on both the Marvel and DC universes. He unleashed his own masked punisher in Super. Released in 2010, this pitch black dark comedy follows Fry Cook, being played by Rainn Wilson, who tries to rescue his estranged wife, Liv Tyler, from charismatic criminal Kevin Baker.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I haven't seen this, but I need to.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That sounds awesome. I don't know much about this at all.

[Greg Miller]

I. I also didn't realize that James Gunn did Super.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, it's crazy. At number 22, we got Thor Ragnarok.

[Greg Miller]

Cool.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Which I gotta see the rest of the list. I want to say it feels low, but I gotta say it does feel low.

[Greg Miller]

And. But that's the problem with the type of listerama. I adore. Thor Ragnarok.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. At number 21, we got Watchmen 2009. That should be higher. Never seen Watchmen.

[Greg Miller]

It's great. But I also. I think there's just too much baggage at this point.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

I just. I can't imagine you watching this and liking it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

But, hey, maybe I'm wrong. I should take that back. You should watch it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number 20, we got Superman 2 from 1980.

[Greg Miller]

You.

[Barrett Courtney]

Wow.

[Greg Miller]

Okay. No, no.

[Barrett Courtney]

Speak on it.

[Greg Miller]

No. We just didn't review for these movies, and I watched these movies for the very first time, and I understand time and place and everything, and I think the important point for me to make is I watched Superman 1, 1978, and I was like, oh, my God, this is old. This is not my favorite thing ever. This is a damn good movie. This is a damn good superhero movie. And for it to have happened in 1978, I have never put enough respect on Superman's name. And then I saw two, and I'm like, okay, I don't know. I don't know about all this. And it only got worse from there. But, like, no way. No way.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Tough. And number 19, Avengers, Endgame.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. I mean, this, I think, is way lower than it should be, but I also get. People are sensitive. Nah, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No. Endgame is way higher than this.

[Greg Miller]

I respect that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Endgame is way higher than this.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I will never have that feeling again. Barrett.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's 11 years of storytelling coming together.

[Greg Miller]

Amazing.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

With so many characters, it's an end.

[Greg Miller]

That they actually pulled off, and it should have stopped. Rare we ever see an final movie actually freaking deliver.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yes. It has, like, a top one superhero movie moment of all time with, like, a top one. A top one. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It literally is top one of the fucking. Everybody coming out the portals, all that. Golly. At number 18. We got guardians of the galaxy volume two.

[Greg Miller]

Okay, you know what?

[Barrett Courtney]

I respect that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I hate this list so far.

[Barrett Courtney]

I don't think it should be above Endgame, but like, I love that it's on the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Above Endgame is insane. What's going on over there?

[Barrett Courtney]

Okay, but do you remember the funeral at the end of the Guardians Volume 2? Think about it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I remember the baby Groot dancing in the beginning. And I like that. It was really good.

[Barrett Courtney]

So good.

[Greg Miller]

Arrow fight scene.

[Barrett Courtney]

But then Rocket and Yandy connecting and realizing that they're both the of their friend group. And then Rocket seeing Yondu sacrifice himself and realize like, oh, like, are people gonna remember me? Dude, the Rocket stuff in that movie is so fantastic and pays off in in three. Go back to that movie Bliss.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number 17, you got Shin Kamen Rider.

[Barrett Courtney]

Damn.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I respect it.

[Barrett Courtney]

People with this movie.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I respect that so much.

[Greg Miller]

I need to check this out. Can you hit play on the YouTube video real quick?

[Barrett Courtney]

I will not.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, fuck. Yeah, I guess you're right. 23. That's too recent.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's too recent.

[Greg Miller]

We're gonna get us.

[Barrett Courtney]

We almost got claps yesterday for all of the like, Mortal Kombat footage from like the 1990s one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, they don't play around nowadays. This blurb, I like how it starts. Imagine if David David Cronenberg directed Spider Man. That's the vibe of Shin Kamen Rider, written and directed by Neon Genesis Evangelion creator Hideaki Anno. I need to watch this.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, I need to get on.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I need to watch this. That is such a a selling sentence right there. At number 16, we got Hellboy 2004.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

And they're trying to be so varied with this list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number 15, we got Captain America, the Winter Soldier team.

[Greg Miller]

Man, I'm slow.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Seat 15 I'd be okay with if we didn't read Avengers endgame at number 19 or whatever the it was. But hey, it should be on the list. Top 15. I'm good with for Winter Soldier.

[Greg Miller]

Think about Winter Soldier is. I think it would win the popularity award for. If you ask the most people, what is the best singular movie in the mcu? Yeah, I think this would be the most number one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Best made. Best. Like, like, what is a movie saying?

[Barrett Courtney]

Not Avengers movie.

[Greg Miller]

No, I think.

[Barrett Courtney]

Because I think. I think an Avengers movie would probably be number one above Winter Soldier, but I think Winter Soldier would be very high.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I feel like Winter Soldier is like the one where it is. You show this to your friends that like, film.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And go, hey, this Shit got out of the mcu.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. Out of the mcu specifically. Right? Like, oh, this shit. Got choreography as espionage. There's intrigue, there's betrayal. It's got. It's got everything you want in a movie. And it's fucking good.

[Greg Miller]

It's fucking good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's fucking good. At number 14, you got the Crow 1995.

[Greg Miller]

Never saw it.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Did we mention Joker in our conversations?

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Fair enough.

[Greg Miller]

And is that a superhero movie?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

You know what? Good point. To some people, it might be. At number 13. I don't know what crow is, by the way. I've not seen this movie. Looks cool.

[Barrett Courtney]

You know, some of my friends really with this movie.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

So at number 13, we got Logan.

[Greg Miller]

13.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

13 hurts.

[Greg Miller]

That's really crazy.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That hurts my heart.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Logan is.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Logan is top five.

[Greg Miller]

Logan is. Without actually looking at list in my. My gut is top three.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Like, that's how much I.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

With Logan, my gut is top five automatically. Yeah. At number 12, we got the Batman 2022 boring ass list. Top 12, boring ass movie.

[Barrett Courtney]

Top 12.

[Greg Miller]

Batman's awesome.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Just put this. Replace it with the Penguin TV show. I know it's not a movie, but it works.

[Barrett Courtney]

Visually, it's great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Visually, it is great. Number 11, Spider man into the spider verse.

[Greg Miller]

It's my number one, but that should be top three.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

That's another gut top five for me. I digress. At number 10, Batman 1989.

[Greg Miller]

Get out of here, Nick.

[Barrett Courtney]

Iron Man's going to be number one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I do love fucking Nick and Barrett. I think, like, I like the idea of those two behind the scenes scenes putting together a list and it coming out like this.

[Greg Miller]

There's something about Batman 1989 that I. I really respect. And I like how quirky it is and the Tim Burton and like, the look of it all is so cool, but something that I feel like I. Another thing that I'm just very not in line with most people on is people that are like, Michael Keaton's a great Bruce Wayne. I'm like, me. Like, I just simply cannot agree at all. Like, it takes me out of it so much.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I never seen this one. It's a.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's a fun ride.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'd be down to watch it at some point. Maybe I'll check it out.

[Barrett Courtney]

Nicholson as Joker is like, yeah, it's. It's a really good one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number nine, you got X2. X Men United.

[Greg Miller]

Love this goddamn movie, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Hey, man, you know what?

[Barrett Courtney]

Nightcrawler, in that beginning, the beginning seed.

[Greg Miller]

I know, I know. Lady Death Strike.

[Barrett Courtney]

Like Wolverine walking away from striker at the end, holding the kid.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Look, I.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This movie makes me miss 2003. Like, see, like, let's talk about it. And, like, even seeing just the. The thumbnail for it, I'm like, man, yeah. When X Men was like, the.

[Greg Miller]

I is such a funny movie to me. And I feel this way about the Raimi movies as well, where at the time it was like, oh, my God, I can't believe we are getting an X Men or Spider man movie that's this good. This is crazy. We're living in the best timeline. It couldn't possibly be better than this because we couldn't ask for more than this. This is where we're at now. We got Logan, bro.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. Them putting this above Logan is wild. Yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Wild.

[Barrett Courtney]

That is crazy. Like, I think, like, this is 2003. The next year we get the likes of movies like Catwoman. And then two years after X2, we get Batman Begins. And I think that's where our. Our bars started to change.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

When did X Men 3 come out?

[Barrett Courtney]

2,000.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Was that five? Six.

[Greg Miller]

Five, right?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I might have been six.

[Barrett Courtney]

It might have been.

[Greg Miller]

Hold on. Whatever. That's not on the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, yeah. Better not.

[Barrett Courtney]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

2006. There we go. At number eight. We got unbreakable.

[Barrett Courtney]

People with Unbreakable. I superhero all the time.

[Greg Miller]

I fuck with Unbreakable. Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Was really cool.

[Greg Miller]

Not top eight. Definitely not top eight.

[Barrett Courtney]

That's crazy. They wanted to say it.

[Greg Miller]

They wanted to. You know, this is like.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This is a weird list.

[Greg Miller]

This is like a. A top 50. Let's put it on here, you know?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah. Top 10 above Avengers, Endgame. All right. At number seven. We got you. What? No, you. Wonder Woman 2017.

[Greg Miller]

Wonder Woman is a movie that legitimately is good.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's good.

[Greg Miller]

Yes, it is. But when we look at a lot of the DCU movies and we talk with the DCU of how bad it is, Wonder Woman is exempt from that. But it's not fucking top 10.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's as good as Captain America the First Avenger, because it's literally just Captain America the First Avenger for the dcu.

[Greg Miller]

I ain't mad with that.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's good in the way a 7 out of 10 is technically good.

[Greg Miller]

Wonder Woman to me, is if you take Thor 1 and Cap 1 and just merge them together, but it's.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's.

[Greg Miller]

It's Wonder Woman.

[Barrett Courtney]

This high is insane.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Barrett Courtney]

I did on a 25 is insane.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I will say I did have the jump scare because I forgot, like, I Had to do the math of like, what year was 2017. So for a second, I thought it was the really bad Wonder Woman movie that came out on Christmas that one year.

[Barrett Courtney]

Oh, Pedro Pascal.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Pedro Pascal. Yeah. And I really was about to jump out my seat and be like, yo, you at least above Logan.

[Greg Miller]

This is above Logan.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This is above.

[Barrett Courtney]

Into the spider verse.

[Greg Miller]

Yikes.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's been a while since we had like a take a genuine shit list. Like, this list is like, I can't argue anything for it so far. At number six, we got Black Panther 2018. Okay. Some good decisions being made here. At number five, we got the Incredibles.

[Greg Miller]

Cool.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's the best Fantastic Four movie.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Another one that like.

[Greg Miller]

It's so sad, guys.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Yeah, honestly, I'll say. Gut top five. Maybe got top ten. I think that's one where I'd have to list start really listening out the movies. But the Incredibles is a special superhero.

[Barrett Courtney]

I adore this movie so much.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It's so good. And number four, we got the Avengers. The first one. All right, 2012. Above Endgame depends on you ask.

[Barrett Courtney]

I feel like that's fair. It was a moment.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

It was a moment. And number three, we got the Dark Knight.

[Greg Miller]

Wow. We all need to stop as a people right now and just think about what's happening. The Dark Knight is number three. Logan is number fucking God knows what. Into the spider verse already happened. What the hell could they possibly put in one and two?

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Spider Man 2.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, Spider Man 2.

[Barrett Courtney]

And across the spider verse.

[Greg Miller]

No, no.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

They'Re not going to do that.

[Barrett Courtney]

They put Wonder Woman in the top 10, man.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Superman 2025. Because this is a DC sicko making this list. This is one of them DC sickos. Check the name. Who wrote this again? It might be Greg Miller. It might be Gregory Miller that wrote this list.

[Greg Miller]

All right, let's go.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Wait.

[Barrett Courtney]

No, not Superman 2025. Chat brings up a good point. We haven't seen Superman 1 yet.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, my God. And they put Superman 2 and there's no way that they think 2 is better than 1.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

DC Sickles. They're out here.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, they're out here.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Or.

[Barrett Courtney]

Or. Or they. They have Batman Begins in the top two. Question mark.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Maybe.

[Greg Miller]

I mean, if Infinity War isn't on.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

This list, I'm gonna have to create a new three thumbs down. Like, we're gonna have to create a new rating System. At number two, we got Spider Man 2. 2004.

[Greg Miller]

Okay.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Called it.

[Greg Miller]

So there's. Oh, my God. I'm getting upset right now. My blood's Starting to boil. We're at number one. We're at number one.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I don't know.

[Greg Miller]

I don't think Infinity War makes the list. And if Infinity War is number one. Well, you know what? I actually. I'm not there.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No infinity number one. I agree. I. It doesn't save the list, though.

[Barrett Courtney]

It doesn't save the list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I'm a little bit mad, but I'm not that mad at it.

[Greg Miller]

It.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

At number one, we got Superman, 1978. Let me say it again. 1978's Superman 1. The one where he flew around the Earth to rewind time. That's the one scene I remember. I like that scene. It was fun. Yeah. No.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

There's a D.C. sickle at work. He works at Esquire.

[Greg Miller]

This is fucking insane.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

What's this person's name? This is Greg Miller's pen name right here. Eric Francisco is secretly Greg Miller again.

[Greg Miller]

I want to make it clear that this movie fucks and that this movie is a classic superhero movie. And from the Nick Scarpino logic of Iron man, this being number one. I get it. I hate it, but I get it. Whatever. But when you look at the rest of this list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Oh, dude.

[Barrett Courtney]

It's just.

[Greg Miller]

I start getting real.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No. No. Blade. No Infinity War.

[Greg Miller]

Dude.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

No Infinity War. Iron man wasn't on this list, right?

[Barrett Courtney]

No.

[Greg Miller]

No.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Iron Man. Do we have a Guardians with Guardians too? Oh, yeah.

[Greg Miller]

Which I'm shocked.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Which upsets me. I fuck with none of them. Holland. Spider man movies. No Deadpool.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah. Here's what I'm gonna say.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But we have thunderbolts. Thank God.

[Greg Miller]

I think that this is a shit list.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I do, too.

[Greg Miller]

But I also think. I also think, and I said this at the beginning of this episode, and I said it in Games Daily. There's not a single list that I feel like that we would all be like. That was good, because that's not how this works.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I disagree. I think we could have done it.

[Greg Miller]

I guarantee we can't.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

I think it exists.

[Greg Miller]

Come up with one. Bless. We have Chris Anka here, gave us his top 10. And I. I think it's great.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But the Batman.

[Greg Miller]

The Batman dread.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Is this, like, in order?

[Greg Miller]

No. Unranked top 10. The Batman Dread. Days of Future Past. Winter Soldier. Into the spider verse. Blade 2. Infinity War. Incredibles V from Vendetta. Dark Knight.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

Not at all mad at that.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah, but you are mad at the Batman.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

But, like, I understand that other people like that movie more than I do. And so I. And it being on the top 10 if it was his number one, I'd be mad. Yeah, but it sounds like that's not ranked, so I let it slide. Yeah, I think that's a good list.

[Greg Miller]

Yeah.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

And I even like the 25 that we listed. If we ordered this, I think all three of us would hold hands because the three of us made this list.

[Barrett Courtney]

Together.

[Blessing Adeoye Jr.]

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