Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3+4 Review - Kinda Funny Gamescast

Summary

Kinda Funny Gamescast: Video Game Podcast
Episode: Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3+4 Review
Release Date: July 7, 2025
Hosts: Tim Gettys, Greg “GameOverGreggy” Miller, Blessing Adeoye, and Andy Cortez

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Introduction and Show Updates

The episode kicks off with hosts Andy Cortez and Blessing Adeoye engaging in lighthearted banter about their weekend activities, specifically focusing on skateboarding tricks like mctwists and the challenges they face while performing them.

Andy Cortez [00:00]:
"Welcome to the Kinda Funny Gamescast for Monday, July 7, 2025."

Blessing Adeoye [00:24]:
"I've been mctwisting it up this weekend. I've been doing so many mctwists. So many nine hundreds?"

Following their initial conversation, Tim Gettys introduces a segment discussing the newly released movie K Pop Demon Hunters, highlighting its anime and musical elements, which resonates with some hosts' experiences with K Pop and related cultural phenomena.

Tim Gettys [01:15]:
"I have to say it somewhere, but it happened to me this weekend. K Pop Demon Hunters."

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3+4 Overview

Andy introduces the main topic of the episode: the upcoming remake of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 developed by Iron Galaxy and published by Activision. The game is set for a worldwide release on July 11, with early access available on July 8 for those who pre-order the Digital Deluxe or Collector's Edition.

Andy Cortez [09:07]:
"Let's talk about it. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 is an upcoming skateboarding video game developed by Iron Galaxy and published by Activision."

Gameplay and Features

Blessing shares his experience with the game, noting his progress and the nostalgic elements that draw him back. He contrasts his gameplay in Pro Skater 3 and 4, emphasizing the differences in objectives and the satisfaction of unlocking levels.

Blessing Adeoye [13:05]:
"I played about six hours, which has been enough for me to unlock every level, unless I'm missing some hidden levels."

Tim Gettys delves deeper into the game mechanics, comparing the new remake to previous versions and highlighting the enhancements in movesets and level design. He shares his personal rating of the game, balancing praise with constructive criticism.

Tim Gettys [17:31]:
"For me, this game is something I'm going to be playing for the rest of time... I think I'm going to settle on an 8.5."

Customization

The hosts discuss the game's customization options, expressing mixed feelings. While they appreciate certain aspects, like deck customization, they criticize the limited options for character customization, such as the absence of glasses and facial accessories.

Tim Gettys [26:33]:
"I'm very let down in Tony Hawk games by the limited character customization options."

Blessing Adeoye [28:56]:
"It feels limited for Tony Hawk because I feel like there's more customization options in the classic games."

Level Design and Favorites

Andy and Blessing highlight their favorite levels within the remake. They reminisce about specific locations like the Airport and San Francisco levels, appreciating the blend of nostalgia and fresh design elements that make the gameplay engaging.

Andy Cortez [38:17]:
"I love the Airport because of all of the grind opportunities."

Blessing Adeoye [39:22]:
"Living in San Francisco, playing the San Francisco level was a crazy feeling."

Soundtrack

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the game's soundtrack. The hosts commend the selection of new and classic tracks, though they express disappointment over the limited number of returning songs from the original Pro Skater 3 and 4.

Tim Gettys [41:32]:
"The soundtrack is great. It reminds me of what I loved about the 1 and 2 remakes."

Nick Scarpino [44:39]:
"There are only 10 returning songs between both games, which is a bit of a letdown."

Despite some missing classics, the hosts appreciate the new additions and the overall quality of the music, which enhances the gaming experience.

Blessing Adeoye [46:08]:
"Kick Push coming on while I'm playing 'We're Here, Baby'... it's a perfect vibe."

Technical Performance

Technical issues are a point of concern, especially regarding performance on different platforms. Blessing and Tim report frame rate drops and crashes on the Steam Deck and Switch 2, respectively, which detracts from their gaming experience.

Andy Cortez [35:00]:
"I experienced massive frame drops on Steam Deck, which was really bothering."

Nick Scarpino [53:22]:
"The game crashed back to the console's home screen close to 10 times over my 20+ hours of gameplay on Switch 2."

Community Feedback and Tips

Responding to listener questions, the hosts offer advice for newcomers to the Tony Hawk franchise. Tim suggests approaching the game as a 3D platformer and utilizing the free skate mode to explore without the pressure of completing objectives.

Tim Gettys [48:41]:
"My advice would be to go into it and think of it as a 3D platformer. Just skating around is fun."

Blessing adds that players should enjoy the free roam aspect to fully appreciate the game's mechanics and culture.

Blessing Adeoye [50:13]:
"Go to free skate and just fuck around for a while."

Future of the Tony Hawk Franchise

The hosts express optimism about the future of the Tony Hawk series, acknowledging its turbulent history but believing that the quality of the Pro Skater 3+4 remake could reinvigorate the franchise. They speculate on possible upcoming titles and remakes, emphasizing Iron Galaxy's competent development.

Tim Gettys [58:22]:
"There's a lot to be seen, but I have full faith in Iron Galaxy based on what they did here."

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reiterate their enthusiasm for the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3+4 remake and preview upcoming segments, including reviews of Jurassic World Rebirth and Dune Awakening. They encourage listeners to support them through memberships and thank their Patreon producers.

Andy Cortez [60:34]:
"I hope you all enjoy Tony Hawk when it comes out tomorrow for early access and then the 11th for everybody else."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Blessing Adeoye [13:05]:
  "I played about six hours, which has been enough for me to unlock every level, unless I'm missing some hidden levels."

• Tim Gettys [17:31]:
  "For me, this game is something I'm going to be playing for the rest of time... I think I'm going to settle on an 8.5."

• Tim Gettys [26:33]:
  "I'm very let down in Tony Hawk games by the limited character customization options."

• Blessing Adeoye [46:08]:
  "Kick Push coming on while I'm playing 'We're Here, Baby'... it's a perfect vibe."

• Tim Gettys [48:41]:
  "My advice would be to go into it and think of it as a 3D platformer. Just skating around is fun."

This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting the hosts' discussions on gameplay, customization, soundtrack, technical performance, and the future of the Tony Hawk franchise, while including key quotes and timestamps for reference.

Transcript

[Andy Cortez]

Foreign. Welcome to the kind of Funny Games cast for Monday, July 7, 2025. I'm your host, Andy Cortez, and I'm joined by the Midwest McTwist Blessing Junior. Whoa.

[Blessing Junior]

I like that. Good day, Andy.

[Andy Cortez]

Good to see you on his face.

[Blessing Junior]

Because I've been mctwisting it up this weekend. I've been doing so many mctwists. So many nine hundreds?

[Tim Gettys]

Hell yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

What's the one?

[Andy Cortez]

So many nine hundreds.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, my God. I fail them half the time. Like bailing left and right. I still keep doing it and I'm.

[Andy Cortez]

Like, that's a clear turn. You were fine there.

[Blessing Junior]

It's like, I don't know where I'm going to end up in the turn is the problem. Like, I go up, I do the 900. I'm like a. I'm sideways and it's.

[Andy Cortez]

There's a couple those moves where I'm like, I don't know. I. I still can't get the grasp of am I going to be okay when I land?

[Tim Gettys]

That's hilarious.

[Andy Cortez]

Like, it's usually grabs.

[Tim Gettys]

Who is your best friend?

[Andy Cortez]

It's usually the grabs, though. Like when I'm doing grabs in certain ways with the board, it's like my legs are in such a weird position where I'm like, am I coming down straight? I don't know. Up?

[Blessing Junior]

I'm like, I don't know how I'm.

[Andy Cortez]

Going to come down if I'm going to be all right. I'm also joined by the Bay Area board slider, Tim Gettys. I love it.

[Tim Gettys]

Little nicknames you. What a day to be alive. Wow, boys.

[Andy Cortez]

It's going to be a good one today.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm excited. Before we get into it, absolutely not the show to say this, but I have to say it somewhere because it happened to me this weekend. K Pop Demon Hunters.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, I saw Thread talking about you would like this.

[Tim Gettys]

You two required viewing. You have to watch this movie. It's from the production company. Spider Verse. Right across the spider verse. They did Mitchell's in the machines, right? Oh, you see that? Yeah, I love that.

[Andy Cortez]

What a joy.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, same kind of thing. But this, this is awesome. Anime is all Final Fantasy is all full on. K Pop Musical. Full on.

[Blessing Junior]

I love it.

[Tim Gettys]

I thought it was. Oh, maybe there's a song here or there. There's a song every five seconds.

[Blessing Junior]

I'm texting the group chat right now.

[Tim Gettys]

Banger after bag.

[Andy Cortez]

Is it getting you into K Pop?

[Tim Gettys]

To me? No. This feels like the. The nice level of like, arms Reach tourist. You know what I mean? Where you get to kind of experience.

[Andy Cortez]

It, appreciate it, and then like, all right, I'm gonna go back to my normal day today.

[Tim Gettys]

The. The soundtrack, though, it's. It's super good, but, like, the fight scenes are insane. And, like, all of fight scenes, dude.

[Andy Cortez]

Cool.

[Tim Gettys]

Demon Hunters.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, I guess I hadn't considered that.

[Blessing Junior]

They're too hung up on the game.

[Tim Gettys]

It freaking rules. Like, I was the slightest bit let down by F1. Top Gun. Maverick, my favorite movie of all time. I was looking for that high. Didn't quite get it. Great movie. Just didn't quite give me the, like, oh, I'm obsessed with this K Pop Demon Hunters from here.

[Nick Scarpino]

Because this is how Alyssa got into K Pop was turning red.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, yeah. I mean, very, very similar. Similar things. I think this is a lot better, though, difference now. Very different point and all that.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

This is a way. This is more of a. This is such a tin movie.

[Andy Cortez]

I mean, I think it was last summer that I was obsessed with Le Sserafim. I just kept on playing that one damn song because Tik Tok just kind of, you know, takes over. It's just like, here's Le Sserafim non stop. And I just kept on playing that one song, and it was. Yeah, that was a great time. So I think I would enjoy it. I think I'd enjoyed. I'll tell you what, I got really, really into the weekend. The altars.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Okay.

[Blessing Junior]

Nice.

[Andy Cortez]

That's. That's so my. Yeah, it's really enjoyable. Really cool game. Super great with. I mean, it's just so my. With inventory management and crafting and making stuff, and then suddenly you got your clone back home being like, hey, should I work on this thing? And like, yeah, you know what? We were, you know, we were kind of antagonistic towards each other at the beginning, but now we're friends.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

And. Yeah, you should work on that thing. I would love.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't.

[Blessing Junior]

I don't think I'd have it in me to beef with my clone because it's like, I know. I know where you come from. You know where I come from, we have, like, these share. Like, why are we beefing?

[Andy Cortez]

Right.

[Blessing Junior]

We're the same.

[Andy Cortez]

But I mean, the whole concept. The whole concept is that you are. You're. You're cloning yourself. Like, very formative moments in your life, that that clone took a different choice in life. Yeah. So it's like, so that guy, you find out why he's such an. At first, it's like, oh, because you stood up to your dad and you didn't. Like, your clone did, but you didn't. And you went off and you're dealing with sadness because you missed the death of your mom and. But your clone was around for it because he chose to stay. It's like, whoa, that, man. It's an awesome game. I'm really, really enjoying. I played a bit more on my steam deck last night. Having a good time with it.

[Blessing Junior]

I need to get back to it. I got real distracted by playing Don Kong Tropical Freeze.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

Which I'm going to talk about, I think, later this week. I think tomorrow actually, I'm going to talk about it. And then also playing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater three plus four. But while we're doing the show and tell segment, I, over the weekend watched The Bear Season 4. Whatever.

[Tim Gettys]

The most recent.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah. Finished the last season of the Bear, which I'm still unclear on whether or not it's supposed to be the finale season or not.

[Andy Cortez]

I think they confirmed the middle season.

[Blessing Junior]

Really?

[Andy Cortez]

Okay. Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

Interesting. I really love the season of the Bear. Season three, like, kind of took me out of it a little bit. Like, I still can't pinpoint what it was. I think there was something about, like.

[Tim Gettys]

It veered too far from the sun. I keep saying this. It was the season three of the Bear.

[Andy Cortez]

It veered too far from the sun.

[Tim Gettys]

That's what happened. That's what happens. Do you know how to make Chicago Beef? You know what I mean?

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Think about it.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

Putting words together. The premiere of season three just set the wrong tone. Way too artsy. It felt like, oh, we're doing something different. Because the. Doing something different episodes, our favorites. Right. They went too far. They did two different. This was like. And I just feel like it kind of set the tone of, like, I'm not here for this. And then they just kept trying and trying to try it. And, like, it wasn't bad at all. But I just feel like for me personally, that's what ruined it. But, yeah, season four, so far, I'm not fully done yet, but a lot better.

[Blessing Junior]

There's something about it where, like, at every turn, it subverted where I thought it was gonna go in, like, ways that surprised and delighted me.

[Andy Cortez]

Right.

[Blessing Junior]

Where I'm just like, oh, man. Like, I totally thought y' all were gonna do this, and they ended up not. And then also, like, I feel these characters, man, there's something about when a show depicts a family so well and so strongly, especially a dysfunctional family, where it's like, you see how they don't get along, but you understand why they're still together. Oh yeah, that shit. That shit hits. That shit hits.

[Andy Cortez]

I. I hope that we haven't crossed that threshold because I think maybe season three may have made it seem like to an outsider like myself that when more bear stuff gets announced, you and it goes, enough, dude, fucking end it. You know? But I'm hoping that 4 has kind of maybe turned it around and people are.

[Blessing Junior]

I would have been okay with the Good Graces being the last. But also I the last episode kind of left on a note where I was like, I don't know if I'm satisfied. So knowing that there's another season, I'm like, okay, sure.

[Nick Scarpino]

I would want next season to be the last because yeah, word ends the season. Bless. Like, I want to see at least a little bit of what that whole group looks like after this big decision at the end of the season.

[Blessing Junior]

Now the show takes place in Chicago. Has ever been a Chicago level in a Tony Hawk game?

[Andy Cortez]

There has, there has.

[Blessing Junior]

Let's talk about it.

[Andy Cortez]

Let's talk about it. Because we're an 11 person business. All about live talk shows. KFGD was I heard Greg just swearing up a store and talking about Xbox, talking about capitalism, talking about shareholders.

[Blessing Junior]

I think we both got up in arms a little.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, yeah. Got a little heated. And I get it. I totally understand. But this is the kind of Funny Games cast. Each and every weekday we get together to talk about the biggest reviews, previews and topics in video games live on YouTube, Twitch and podcast services around the globe. If you love what we do, support us with a kind of Funny membership on Patreon, YouTube, Spotify or Apple podcasts to get all of our shows ad free, watch us record them live and get a daily exclusive show for a chance to be part of the show. Submit your thoughts and opinions as YouTube super chats as we go. I expect to see a lot of YouTube super chats about the soundtrack and about clothing and customization and clothing brands.

[Tim Gettys]

Get in there. Please ask me questions.

[Andy Cortez]

Get in there.

[Tim Gettys]

So many answers.

[Blessing Junior]

I looked it up online. It says there's Chicago up. There's a Chicago level in four.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

Why have I not seen.

[Tim Gettys]

I thought, I thought that's what you were joking about.

[Blessing Junior]

It was like the perfect segue.

[Andy Cortez]

It was a clear perfect segue.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

It's very surprising. I wouldn't have admitted that. I would have just taken ownership over.

[Tim Gettys]

That was just real quick.

[Blessing Junior]

Just why can't I find the Chicago level.

[Tim Gettys]

Tony. Tony Hawk one had a Chicago level. The first tournament level was in in Chicago, but a proper Chicago level was in Tony Hawk 4. However, it's not in the remake because it wasn't actually a Tony Hawk 4 level. It was a Matt Hoffman's Pro VMX 2 level. That was like a secret level in Tony Hawk.

[Andy Cortez]

Matt Hoffman.

[Blessing Junior]

This man has the knowledge. That's crazy. Dude has a wild when I was.

[Andy Cortez]

All about that B3 blades, bikes and boards. Okay, on ESPN, learn about Matt Hoffman. Learn. Man, I'm so into this dude. I can't skateboard where the lick but I'm really, really into this world. Sort of like Sonic earlier I was telling you. Yeah, I enjoy the vibe of Sonic. Just don't want to play the games.

[Blessing Junior]

You know, I. I was thinking with skateboarder we'll talk about it.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, we'll talk about it later. After this, you are going to get Jurassic World Rebirth in review.

[Tim Gettys]

I thought it was impossible to not be good and to be as bad as all of you who saw it a week before I did said, do. I still think that you'll have to wait to find out.

[Andy Cortez]

And after that, the gooning continues in Dune Awakening with me and Nick back in Arrakis. We're going to be back. Nick moved into my house last night.

[Tim Gettys]

I heard you paid his rent. He paid your.

[Andy Cortez]

He paid my taxes.

[Tim Gettys]

He paid your taxes?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, he. He went to Eric Keen and was like, oh, I just paid my tax. He goes, oh, there's another charge here for like $6,000. And we're like, oh, that's funny. You got charged twice. And then I went to go and I was like, I. I says I owe nothing. He goes, oh, you. I probably paid your taxes. This is a good time. A good time. So he moved in with me last night. We're still waiting on Snow White Mike to maybe move in, but it seems like he's uninstalled already. He may have given up.

[Tim Gettys]

If you're kind of.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. If you're kind of funny. Yeah, he, you know, he gets in his fifis. You know he gets in his fifis if you're kind of funny. Member today. Today's the day that Greg sees Superman. Find out what the excitement levels are in today's Greg Way. Thank you to our Patreon producers, Delaney the Psalm Twining, Carl Jacobs and Omega Buster. Today we're brought to you by Shady Rays. But we'll tell you all about that later. For now, let's start with topic of the show. Tony hawk, Pro Skater 3 and 4. Antonio Hawk is back, Tim. And let me just read a little quick little wiki some. Even though everybody knows what this is, but. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 is an upcoming skateboarding video game developed by Iron Galaxy and published by Activision. Similar to Vicarious Vision's predecessor, Tony hawk's Pro Skater 1 and 2. It is a remake of Pro Skater 3 and 4, both from 2001 and 2002 with him back to back. I don't know. They're pumping them out like that. I didn't realize that.

[Tim Gettys]

1, 2, 3, 4.

[Andy Cortez]

You know what I realized recently?

[Tim Gettys]

6.

[Andy Cortez]

What I real. What I realized recently.

[Blessing Junior]

They were like.

[Tim Gettys]

They really were all the way through American Wasteland. That's crazy.

[Andy Cortez]

You know how we always do the. We always do Deep Impact, Armageddon Volcano, Dante Storm podcast? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. And it's always like these two movies that came out at the same time.

[Tim Gettys]

Gotcha.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, yeah. Like movies that just kind of like right back to back. Right.

[Tim Gettys]

Friends With Benefits and.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, I know.

[Tim Gettys]

No Strings Attached.

[Andy Cortez]

No strings. Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

And Mila Kunis.

[Tim Gettys]

That's a great question. It's one of the two, isn't it?

[Blessing Junior]

I'm going to say no Strings Attached.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

I was thinking recently about the movie Powder guy has magical powers. Bald white guy. He's like. His whole skin is just like powder white.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay.

[Andy Cortez]

He, like bends a spoon in one of the trailers is like. Was freaked me out as a kid. And I was like, I always thought it was. You know, we don't talk enough about how Powder and Michael, the movie where John Travolta was an angel.

[Blessing Junior]

Insane cast in this movie. Jeff Goldblum was in this.

[Andy Cortez]

Oh, nice.

[Blessing Junior]

Sean Flannery plays Powder.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a fascinating movie. So it was that and Michael, where John Travolta came to Earth and chat, was like, no, Andy, you're thinking of Phenomenon, where. Where John Travolta had, like, magical powers.

[Tim Gettys]

You've never sounded more like Nick than right now.

[Andy Cortez]

And. And these were all around in the same era. And then I looked at the. I looked at the years. Powder came out in 1995, and in 1996, John Travolta was in Michael, where he started. An angel who came to Earth and he also started phenomenon in 1996.

[Tim Gettys]

No way.

[Andy Cortez]

John Travolta. You can't be putting out two movies on T. That's two. That's too close. So Tony Hawk came out, you know, been annualized, which is pretty surprising. The Game is scheduled to be released on Switch and Switch 2, PS4, PS5, Windows, Xbox, and the Series Xbox One and the Series X&S consoles on July 11. However, you can get the game early on July 8 if you pre order the Digital Deluxe or Collector's Edition. They're doing early access tomorrow. Full week.

[Tim Gettys]

Early Access.

[Andy Cortez]

Fascinating.

[Blessing Junior]

The Xbox thing.

[Andy Cortez]

We've all played some of this.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Tim, you have played by far the most of this.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Cortez]

Bless. Do you want to let me know your thoughts first and how much, how many. How much time you have In Tony Hawk 3 and 4?

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah, I play. I played according to my Steam deck. I believe I played about six hours, which has been enough for me to, I believe, unlock every level, unless I'm like missing some hidden levels or something. But, like, essentially I've gone through the career modes on both three or Tony Hawks Pro Skater four.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Damn, you're so much better than me.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, dude.

[Andy Cortez]

I'm like five hours in and, like, was trying to do the completionist thing and I'm just like so bad at the game and I just don't have that muscle memory. But, man, the waves of nostalgia just hit me. Like, you go to exactly where you were in that place in time of. I was at my cousin's house playing. You know, like, it's just. It's so wild how nostalgic this franchise is.

[Blessing Junior]

What I realized as I was playing, because I was, I was, I was like, man, am I worse at this game. Like, why is it so hard to get some of these goals? And then like, I had a flashback to being a kid and just using every cheat code under the sun. I was like, as a kid, I was using Anti Gravity. I was using Unlimited balance on the rail, unlimited balance on the fucking manual tricks and all that.

[Tim Gettys]

They're just game modes now.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah. Like, if you go in mods, you go in.

[Tim Gettys]

You can do all that stuff if.

[Blessing Junior]

You put on settings that you can just check mark.

[Andy Cortez]

So cool required. Tim, how much time do you have in Tony Hawk 3 and 4? Because you are the one to talk, Hawk.

[Tim Gettys]

I am the one to talk Hawk. That's what they say about me. I'm about 20 hours into this. Obviously, it's become my obsession. We all knew that was going to be the case. I have done the majority of things. I'm at a point right now that there are a handful of goals that I haven't done because I just. I tried. I just can't figure out their new goals. Don't know what to Do. So I'm gonna need to wait for some type of like someone to tell me what's going on with like the I think three that I have left. Just finding things or whatever. Or I'm just gonna keep skating around until I eventually find it because I'm having so much damn fun doing that. The score is an interesting conversation because I do, I do want to start there. What would I give Tony hawk's Pro Skater 3 +4 on the kind of funny scale, I gotta start by saying Tony Hawk's one plus two remake that came out a couple years ago, that this is heavily, heavily based on different developer. Here we have Iron Galaxy. Now, we had vicarious visions before, but it is essentially using the exact same style, assets, engine, all of that. Which is why this game runs as great as it does, looks as great as it does, and is available on literally every system known to man. Like, it's kind of wild how many places it's available. I played it on PC, which was not ideal for me. Obviously Tony Hawk and PlayStation go hand in hand. Still got to use my dual sense. Some of the haptics and things weren't always what they're supposed to be because, you know, using different controllers on different systems and all of that. But all that being said, Tony Hawk's 1 and 2 remake is debatably my favorite game of all time. When I really stop and think back to what game do I enjoy am I going to enjoy for the rest of time? Obviously there's the Smash Brothers on a ton of different Mario games, but the Tony Hawk franchise, when it is the full moveset that I'm looking for and I'm just in the zone, it's the only game I would say I'm actually good at to any extent. And the full moveset to me is Tony Hawk 4. Every game would add something. Tony Hawk 2 added the manual. Tony Hawk 3 added the revert. Tony Hawk 4 added the spine transfers and kind of balancing out when you're in the air so you can land better or even just like go up a pipe and then balance out so you can land on a grind better and go from there. To me, that is like the moveset totally fulfilled where it's actually additive to the combos. Once you get to thug, get off the board and all that stuff. Great for exploring, great for a different style of game. But in terms of the arcadey feel of what Tony Hawk is, 4 was the peak 1 and 2 remake used that engine and let you do all that stuff. And because of that it is one of my favorite games of all time. So looking at this, Tony Hawk 3 and 4, two of the highest rated games of all time. Tony Hawk 3 sitting at the number third highest Metacritic ever at a 97. Tony Hawk for at 94. So, yeah, a remake of those two games. There's a lot of expectations. I think for the most part, they really pulled it off. I'm torn here because on one hand, this is easily a 9. To me, this game is something I'm going to be playing for the rest of time. There's so much great quality of life stuff they've done. The levels are just as fun, the music's just as good. Like, all of it is exactly what I want to be. The three new levels feel like old levels and I mean that in the most complimentary way possible. I can't believe how naturally they fit in with the style. Absolutely love that stuff. But part of me is just being pulled towards even giving it an 8 because there's a lot of stuff missing. There's a lot of stuff that I question, like, why would they do that? Or I wish they would just spend the extra money to license this song or this outfit in the game or these. This shoe brand or things like that. There's just a lot of times I'm questioning why they make this decision. And a lot of it, I can understand why. It's money. It's time.

[Andy Cortez]

You're like, I don't want to rock Adidas.

[Tim Gettys]

So there's a lot of things like that. And I just feel like there are enough weird emissions and enough things where I'm like, I'm not exactly sure exactly what I'm supposed to be doing right now with some of the goals, no matter how well I know these games. And I was just like, I. Some of the creativity was a little lacking for me, so I think I'm going to settle on an 8.5. It is between the 8 and the 9 for me. That can do this. Yeah, we can do that. That's what we're allowed to do here. But I do think that personally, despite loving this game, it's not perfect. I do think there's definitely a little tiny room for improvement here and there, but 8.5 from me.

[Andy Cortez]

Lovely. Well, I want to dive deeper in after a word from our sponsors.

[Tim Gettys]

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[Andy Cortez]

Let's dive in. Let's take that dive down the half pipe, Tim. Because I you mentioning getting off the board and Thug would have been great for one of those stat points on the suburbia rooftop. God.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh dude. Suburbia suburb. Started about suburbia.

[Andy Cortez]

Hate suburbia. How you going to have a goddamn little culdesac with just two little baby rams? Put something in there.

[Blessing Junior]

Destroy all the pumpkins. These pumpkins.

[Andy Cortez]

Get these pumpkins out of my.

[Blessing Junior]

Out of here. Jesus.

[Andy Cortez]

So I. I'd like to maybe start off with bless and ask you what character did you start to main. What did you create a character? What, you know, were you doing all the customization, favorite levels, that sort of thing. O.

[Blessing Junior]

Okay. I first start off with Tony Hawk because I'm basic, you know, I mean. You mean Mario sports game. I'm going to play as Mario. That's my. I want the person that's best all around. I don't want any weaknesses. That's how I think about it.

[Andy Cortez]

Right?

[Blessing Junior]

No weaknesses. And for me, Tony Hawk is the man with no weaknesses too.

[Tim Gettys]

You know, street. But you know, he's.

[Blessing Junior]

He's my Mario. I don't know. So I did the. I did Tony hawk Pro Skater 3. I was gonna say with Mario. With Tony Hawk. Also I want to. I want to preface like my history a little bit, right? Because like this is my first time playing Tony hawk's Pro Skater 4. I grew up. I played like a little bit of one. I played a lot of bit of two. I played a whole lot of bit of three. Three was like my favorite up until I eventually played Thug two. And then I spent, like, I. I just. Like, once I got to Thug, too, I was like, oh, this is my thing. I love. And I know it's like, there's a conversation to be had because I think three is way, obviously way more true to what Tony Hawk is because it is the Arcady thing. It is two minutes. It is not getting off your board. It is more about the execution, all that stuff. I. With the vibe of Tony Hawk in general, so heavy, man, in the games, right? Like, I. I like the edgy nature of it. I liked in Thug to hanging out with, like, the Jackass crew and, like, these dumb story lines and, like, doing dumb shit. I. My favorite objectives in Tony Hawk are things where it is, like, all right, free the bull. Or, like, you know, do, like, fucking bother somebody or, like, you know, dunk somebody in the water or, like, one of the things that I missed in.

[Andy Cortez]

This game, Dump the snow bully.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah, dump the snow on the bully. One of the things I missed in this game, even though it's not even an objective in the original, but in Tony hawk Pro Skater 3 in the Canada level, there's a. A guy who's, like, pissing off or, like, literally pissing.

[Andy Cortez]

Still there.

[Blessing Junior]

Is he still there?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

No way. I've gone. I've, like, tried to find him multiple times.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, he's like the. When you first start the level, like, you just go straight to the left. I'm pretty sure he's there.

[Blessing Junior]

Like, is he on, like, the ramp that's at the end of the. I've not seen. I've, like, gone there, like, two or three times. I've not seen him, so I'm gonna.

[Tim Gettys]

Check again, but I could be wrong.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah, like, that was one of my favorite things in the candle level. Tonyak is like, being telling my friends, like, yo, you see that guy pissing? Like, I fudge with that shit.

[Andy Cortez]

I don't know.

[Blessing Junior]

Like, there's something that I think just brings me back to, I guess, my childhood and, like, watching, like, bits of Jackass or, like, feeling like I'm part of, like, the skater culture, even though I'm just playing a fucking video game. And so I say all that to say, right, that, like, I'm coming into this playing three and, like, knowing three like the back of my hand and absolutely loving it, and then hopping into the four levels and playing it like it's a brand new campaign for myself. And so, you know, played a Sony Hawk during three switch to a custom skater for four and just played with a custom skater that way. I could, like, mess around with the customization options and then also feel more ownership over how I'm allocating my stat points and stuff. Customization options, I thought were fine. I wasn't, like, blown away or anything, but, like, I got a character to look as close to me as possible. I was shocked. I couldn't find any options for glasses or, like, facial accessories aside from, like, hats and stuff, which this is maybe the first time outside of, like, fantasy games where it's like, oh, I can't wear glasses. Like, this is kind of weird.

[Tim Gettys]

You're going to break them if you skate.

[Blessing Junior]

I mean, fair. But also, I want to look like me. I think funk, too. I was. I booted up last night. Like, I'm pretty sure that has glasses I can put on my character.

[Nick Scarpino]

How'd you boot that up?

[Blessing Junior]

You know, don't worry about it. Allegedly booted up. But yeah, that answer.

[Tim Gettys]

Kenny says Tony said no. Nerd.

[Blessing Junior]

Tony was like, put bam in, but, like, keep the nerds out.

[Andy Cortez]

I ended up. I started as one of a couple. Was doing a couple levels because I didn't think how. I wasn't really thinking I was going to get into this a whole lot. Like, I thought, yeah, all right, I have a code. I'll play an hour maybe just to kind of, you know, grease the wheels, fly close to the sun, and. And then I just kind of kept on going. And I think that's the magic of these Tony Hawk arcade games is it's not only the nostalgia that's pulling me back, but it is the addictive cycle. It's that, you know, it's. It's a really good, solid game design cycle of if you don't, you, oh, you missed that last letter in skate. Gotta go back and get it. And there's something so satisfying about. About checking everything off of that list. And it feels awesome to do so. And you feel yourself getting better, and then you see how the levels change and you go, oh, wow. This was like, a really cool thing to do back in the day. Like, that's an awesome little change for this in that suburbia level to have that little. I remember that really scary Axmar. I was always kind of freaked out by the suburbia level as a kid, but, you know, going on and then doing the. The Rio tournament and, I don't know, it just. It's got such a great loop, and it's no wonder why they are so highly rated.

[Blessing Junior]

Can I say this is the, I think, first time that I've truly appreciated the objective design of Tony Hawk, like the Pro Skater series specifically, where. I think one of the reasons as a kid why I took to Thug 2 specifically is like, it just felt like you're in an open level and like, you know, no restrictions, talk to whoever, do all this goofy. Right. And I enjoyed it for that playing Tony Hawksbrough Skater three plus four this time around and like really kind of like paying attention to the structure of all right, like I'm going for the six six score. And so like I'm like rerunning this level until I get it. But as I'm doing that, I am seeing all these things along the way and being like, oh wait, the skate letters. I think I know the route to like get all this level. Yeah, it's like. And like, you know, getting that and then also on the way to doing that, seeing some other objective and how they balance out really well. Hey, we have a handful in every level. A handful of like these collectible things, but then like a handful of these unique things that like you're going to have to either stumble across or like kind of learn the level a bit. I was really impressed this time around, especially in Tony haas Pro Skater 4 where I was like, oh, like I really, I had to like think about how you laid out this level for me so I can like get here, then get up down here and then do all that within a two minute run.

[Andy Cortez]

Seeing it with a, with a new lens, like seeing the deliberate choices, it's so sharp. It's just such a solid, fucking very smartly made game. Yeah. And so I ended up going with, I forget what skater. Like, I think she was from Brazil. And then I was like, no, I want to create. I'll create my own dude. And you know, the mustache, Bonnie, the mustache and the beard not necessarily connected, but kind of disconnected. It was enough for me to be okay with it. But yeah, the, you know, character creator, it's. It's fine. Nothing special. You have a choice of around 25 faces to choose from and then you can kind of like pick skin color from there and go with the hair and. But customizing the board was fun and I kind of remember the fun enjoying there.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

I want to talk about the customization a little bit because I'm very let down. I was let down in one and two remake as well. But the Tony Hawk games were some of the earliest games to feature create a anything and they really went overboard as the franchise went on of create a character, create a deck, create a goal, create a part, create like all that Stuff and the. A lot of that is still here and very, very fleshed out. The creative park specifically I think seems like a step up from one and two remake. But the create a skater. You're similarly limited to the, to the way you were last time. But I feel like they're have a lot less brands for, for clothing. There's like no Nike stuff at all this time.

[Andy Cortez]

And there was. In one and two remake there was. Oh shit. Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

And there's just like a couple like bizarre omissions. Like things like glasses. Like how is that not there? Like it just feels like there's entire verticals of options that I would expect. And it kind of feels that the characters aren't ever going to be that unique from each other. Like it's all just variations of a theme, which I understand. Like these games can be that way, but we've seen it before. They're not. Like you're able to do so many different things in the, the earlier games. Customization and like there's little things. Like the, the lack of jackets in this game is crazy to me. Like how is it not a bomber jacket in a Tony Hawk pro skater game?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, it was kind of nuts.

[Tim Gettys]

And it wasn't 1 and 2.

[Andy Cortez]

Gave myself a purple hoodie with the monster logo in front.

[Tim Gettys]

There's a couple things on my. Oh, Andy. And he said he's got his outfits. But even with the, the decks there's a ton of decks which is awesome. And a ton of secret stuff. But the secret stuff feels like they over indexed on effects where it's like, oh, like your deck's glowing now, your deck's shiny now, your deck's gooey now.

[Andy Cortez]

Your glider looks funny when you're falling in Fortnite or whatever. Yeah, it's like the little like sparkly.

[Tim Gettys]

Star effects and I feel like I would have definitely preferred more variation in terms of like even just colors or in terms of like the what you can customize. Like it feels like a step back in a lot of ways. Which is a bummer for me as somebody that like took a picture of my damn face and used the network adapter to get it into Tony Hawk 4. Yeah, originally, you know.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I would have preferred some face sliders. Just, you know, I, I mean it definitely isn't as limited as some other titles I've seen recently, but it's, it's was kind of a bummer. I wasn't like super stoked on it.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah, it feels limited for Tony Hawk because I booted up Thug to right now allegedly, like, I feel like there's more customization options in, like, the classic Tony Hawk games that I'm seeing in this game.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. Especially with the. The fact that you can have, like, your skater be the dude in three and four and like, that's a lot of game time to be playing as your special character that should be you or should be whoever you want to be represented by. Like, it's kind of a bummer that. That it was as limited as it was. But I. Yeah, when. When Tim said he played 20 hours, again, how bad I am at the game with Blessing saying he played five and like, unlocked everything. Tim saying that he played 20, I was like, oh, so he's maybe a little bit more than halfway. But that's just on my math because of how bad I am at the game.

[Tim Gettys]

Well, I mean, actually, because I just.

[Andy Cortez]

Got to the skater or I unlocked Skater island, but I was just doing Airport.

[Tim Gettys]

Okay, cool.

[Blessing Junior]

Are you doing everything?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, I'm like, trying to do everything.

[Blessing Junior]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

I mean, it's so funny because I mean, like, like Bless was saying Tony Hawk 3 was like the game. Like, I played that. So I mean, to get the unlockable characters, which was always such a huge thing in those early games, like Tony Hak 3 had Darth Maul and was Wolverine and then Wolverine. Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

Officer Dick.

[Tim Gettys]

Django Fett, I think. Yeah, Django Fett. Maybe that was for.

[Andy Cortez]

They got Django.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, dude. Anyways, to get those characters, you had to beat the game with every skater. And so you would replay the career mode of three over and over and over. And like, I remember getting it down to I could beat the entire game in 54 minutes. I don't think that's impressive as like a speedrun thing, but I was doing that. I remember after school every day I'd get home and be like, I'm going to play through one. It's going to take me about an hour. So, yeah, I know that shit just so well. So, yeah, like, I was done with the Tony Hawk 3 thing in like, one very small sitting. You know what I mean?

[Andy Cortez]

Gamer.

[Blessing Junior]

It's.

[Tim Gettys]

It's so cool to see what they've done because, like, you haven't played for. And have you played for it before?

[Andy Cortez]

Yes, I played up until Thug 1, but I definitely fell off around like, probably 4 and Thug 1. Like, I was. I'd say 1 and 2 are the ones that I put hundreds of hours into.

[Tim Gettys]

So four was the first one to kind of break the formula of how the game is played. So it was open, there was no more two minute timer. And it would be in each level. Kind of felt a bit more like an open zone where you'd skate up to NPC and they'd tell you, hey, my cat's stuck in a tree. Go help me. Or like there's combo letters. Get the combo, get the skate, get all that stuff. So there's pros and cons with that. It allowed for some goals to be a little bit more extended and not have to fit into being able to do that and other goals within two minutes. So I feel like because the two minute timer like Speedruns are based around getting all the goals in two minutes. Right. In one run. So that kind of limits how advanced the goals can be for. Because it didn't have to care about that allowed some of the goals to be like multi layered. Like do this story beat which then causes this thing which allows you to jump over that and it'd be like a lot more in depth and just a lot more stuff. However, it also resulted in a lot of them just kind of being filler and a lot of them not being that fun over time. And replaying four to me over the years doesn't have the same kind of like quality hit as I would think. But the solution for this game is to just get rid of that entirely. Like they now have Tony Hawk 4 functioning and structured like Tony Hawk 3. So it's just like the small little challenges in a two minute timer. You can change the two minutes to be pretty much however long you want. If you just want to just have fun and not be worried about all that stuff. And I think it works. I feel like it doesn't really make for a worse game in any way. And another thing is once you beat the game three and once you beat four, like all the. The first set of goals, you get pro goals. So each level then has five more goals that are pro goals. Pro goals, yeah. Which are a lot harder. That's where combo comes. And then a fun thing if combo is A, it's skate, but it's C O M B.

[Blessing Junior]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

And you have to do it, get them all in one combo. Right. A lot of fun. And it kind of allows you to really learn fun lines in the different levels. Because 4 now functions like 3, they're adding the pro goals. We're now getting combo in three for the first time. So we're getting like some of the four goals in three. So it even though by far not every goal in three in four is in this game because I think there was like 190 goals or something in the original four. A lot of them are the ones that matter are for the most part, I would say. And three now gets a lot of the best parts of four. So I think there's a very satisfying package in terms of content and goals in this game. But it clearly is not a remake of the original Tony Hawk 4. This is essentially think of it as Tony Hawk 3 with a whole bunch of new content and then a four level pack. Two, three with some new levels as well that are bangers.

[Andy Cortez]

I didn't get to ask you, Tim, did you? I mean you mentioned your issues with character customization. Were you also create a character dude?

[Tim Gettys]

I always say I always want to be like at the end of it, like that I have my character with my full set of special moves that I like and all of that.

[Andy Cortez]

Are you customizing move set?

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, definitely.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Anybody try to create a park very.

[Tim Gettys]

Briefly just for the.

[Andy Cortez]

I didn't really.

[Blessing Junior]

I hopped into somebody else's create a park. This is like, see what you can do with it. And their level pissed me off. Like, never designed a game in your life.

[Andy Cortez]

Anybody play on Steam Deck?

[Blessing Junior]

I did.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah, all of it.

[Blessing Junior]

I. So here's the thing is like I started playing it. I played like an hour on Steam Deck and then I was like, all right, let me switch over to my PC. And then like the Cloud save wouldn't go over to my Steam on PC and so I was just stuck playing the full thing on Steam. I played the entire thing on Steam Deck. I will say hurt my thumbs. The awkward game to kind of play with like the Steam Deck controls. I wish I was able to play on like my dual Sense controller or something.

[Tim Gettys]

So I just missed this. Were you saying that your saves weren't sinking? Yeah, yeah, I had that problem too, which was a big bummer.

[Blessing Junior]

Which is weird because like usually when that happens because this happens often with review codes where the sync save sync isn't on. But it looked like it was on. Like here it would tell you that like your save is saying like you can see the upload. And then it just wasn't there.

[Andy Cortez]

They've just been on their side.

[Tim Gettys]

I had that same same issue, which sucked because I played. I essentially beat Tony Hawk 3 on the Steam Deck and then when I went to play actually on my PC, it wasn't there. And I was like, ah, fuck it. I started over on PC and I just did everything from. From then on on my TV via PC.

[Andy Cortez]

I will Say this, I know this is. You can, you know, don't tell Greg Miller about this, but you can probably catalog this under PC gaming sort of thing. But like the being in the, the first couple levels, Foundry in Canada especially, I was like, man, this game is like perfectly made. Not, not a dip getting, you know, 150 frames. It looks awesome. I think it's Unreal Engine, but I don't, I think it's like four possibly still. I don't know if it's like Unreal Engine 5 that they're kind of working on.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, because again, this is still an Xbox One and it's PS4.

[Andy Cortez]

So with that being said, then when I hop into the Rio and Suburbia and Airport levels getting like crazy dips in frame rate, like real bad stuff and I'm it, I got to assume it's one of those things where it's like, oh, just yeah, that one setting's up. If you put that low, it's perfectly fine or whatever. But I was having, you know, good high frame rates and then just like boom, massive like hitch on your Steam deck or on your PC on PC. Oh, interesting. Like a massive hitch that almost, you know, looked like whenever you'd get crazy lag in a multiplayer game online or something. Like enough to where it was really, really, really bothersome. It wasn't just a minor thing that I'm nitpicking about. It was like, oh, this is like something's like fundamentally wrong here in the framework of what this setup is. And I know that the 50 series have had some issues with the Nvidia, but like I have a 4090 and I've largely been problem free for a long time with a lot of these games. And yeah, for whatever reason it was, I was being hit with some crazy, crazy frame drops.

[Tim Gettys]

I was playing on a 3090 ads. I didn't have that experience at all. It was fucking insane. And again, I've been playing a lot of 1 and 2 and I've played 1 and 2 now on so many consoles like Switch 1 which was locked at 30. And you definitely feel that in a game like this. I played it on PS4, played on PS5 when we got the upgrades there and then I've played a shit ton of it on PC as well. And yeah, seeing those, the frame rates like obviously the locked 60s, awesome. But playing on PC and getting that like 120 oftentimes was like nuts as well.

[Andy Cortez]

You mentioning when you and I went to the final Fantasy concert and we hung out of that cool arcade bar before and you were mentioning how much how you've become addicted to the high frame rate life. How you never thought it was an issue. It's because of Tony Hawk and now the 120Hertz. Yeah, now you're seeing it, you're feeling it sucks. And so that was like the majority of your experience was like oh, like I. Oh yeah. You are hitting the right button inputs at the right.

[Tim Gettys]

Absolutely. Yeah. I feel I am so impressed with the quality of this game's performance. And people are asking in the chat about Switch 2. Unfortunately we have not played the Switch to one yet. We only, they only gave us PC codes so far. Yeah, I definitely want to play it on everything just to see how it's, how it runs. But I'm sure it's going to run great because like these games are freaking optimized, man.

[Blessing Junior]

And earlier you asked about favorite level. Did you have, did you have one?

[Andy Cortez]

I mean of the ones that I've experienced so far. I love the Airport because of all of the grind opportunities. Like there's just.

[Blessing Junior]

It, it's just at the airport, dude.

[Andy Cortez]

It'S all the, it's the people movers. It's all. There's just so many opportunities to do there. But I, I don't know, there's. There's talking about the nostalgia aspect of it. My brain just being time traveled and portaled back to, you know, 13 year old Andy and being like, oh, feeling like I'm in this tournament right now and I had a killer run and Bob Burnquist got Bobby. Dude, it's like, it's such a cool. I love the tournament levels probably the most. Like I, I'll like, I just enjoy that competition and feeling like oh, that's goddamn Michelangelo from Ninja Turtles. He came in first place. What about you?

[Blessing Junior]

Airport was like my OG like favorite level. And I also love Canada. But like I think this time around, hopping into it maybe partly because it's so fresh to me but also like living in San Francisco. The San Francisco level, I fucking love to like.

[Tim Gettys]

It's so good.

[Blessing Junior]

It's really cool. Yeah, like it's funny because I've never had it before where I'm playing a Tony Hawk game and I've, I'm like either in or I've been to the place that I'm playing because I played this living in Champaign, Illinois, there was never a Champagne level. So like being in San Francisco and then playing the San Francisco level for the first time being like I Feel like I recognize this area. Like, that was a crazy feeling in a Tony Hawk.

[Tim Gettys]

I love that so much. I mean, like, that my entire life has been going place and being like, wait a minute. I know I experienced this. Like, the balls in Los Angeles. When I saw those, I was like, oh, my God, they're real. Like, it's just so fun. But it is funny because 3 and 4, like, some of the most classic levels. Like, I feel like that specifically, like 3 added the revert, which allows you to continue your combos from Bert to Street. And because of that, the levels were designed around it. Like, combos were so much crazier in three on, like, the level cap of, like, how many millions you're getting. Like, you could in any game get insane numbers. But, like, getting a million In Tony Hawk 1 was fucking insane. Tony Hawk 2 opened that up a little bit where getting a million was like, you got to be good, but you easily could do it if you are good enough. Tony Hawk 3, it's like 10 million. The like, oh, yeah. Trying to get like, that's just how high we scaled. And it's because so much more combo opportunity, but the levels are just designed so much better for insane lines.

[Blessing Junior]

Tim, you get a million.

[Tim Gettys]

Million.

[Blessing Junior]

You get a million score.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, every run.

[Blessing Junior]

Damn.

[Tim Gettys]

I didn't realize you were like that.

[Andy Cortez]

This whole conversation, I'm like, all of us are getting that. Like, all of us are experiencing this 20K. I'm like, yeah, like, recently, like, I've.

[Blessing Junior]

Like, for me, I thought I opened my third eye when I started hitting, like, 4,400k and I was like, dude, this crazy. Like, I'm doing combos off the specials, and this guy's getting a million on a regular run.

[Tim Gettys]

So funny, man.

[Andy Cortez]

Damn.

[Blessing Junior]

Let's singing it.

[Andy Cortez]

Let's talk music. Because I. Yeah, I. I noticed that. I don't remember 1, 2 and 3 really sharing a whole lot of similarities in the soundtrack. But if. Like, are a lot of songs from just one and two in here as well. No, every.

[Tim Gettys]

No songs repeated in. In the core games.

[Andy Cortez]

I just think of, like, CKY is All through. I was just three, and I think of the Asus space.

[Blessing Junior]

I thought that was. Are you kidding me?

[Tim Gettys]

Like, I could have sworn that was the intro song to three.

[Andy Cortez]

I swear that's been like Tony Hawk one. But there are new songs in here as well.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. So. So here's. Here's. I mean, this. It's a. I'm happy to be telling you guys about this game because I feel like we're getting into a lot of the fun conversations about this. Like something very special about Tony Hawk one and two remake and now three and four remake is it's not just taking the old game and making it prettier. There's a lot of love put into the culture side of it because like you were saying, it's like you feel like you're part of skate culture like playing this game. I love that all the skaters or at least the majority of skaters that were in the old games, the Tony Hawks and Bob Burnquist and Margera's and all of that, they're in it now, but they're the age they are now. Like it's not like oh it's they're.

[Andy Cortez]

Really cool, they're teenagers.

[Tim Gettys]

It's like they are 50 year old people or whatever they are. Which is so fun because then there's also all these new skaters that are the new generation. There's this girl that won the Olympics for skating when she was like 13, right? And she's in this game and like there's just so, so much more representation of the current skaters. And just like the old games had the current skaters at the time choose the soundtrack. They do that now. So all the new songs are chosen by the new kids. Which I just think is very, very like awesome to like really continue what makes Tony Hawk games special these days. So it's the nostalgia, but it's also like an understanding of hey, we could do that again for another generation, you know. And I don't know that it'll ever hit exactly the same but for skaters I'm sure it's going to, right? Like there's just so much love put into it. So time on the soundtrack is interesting because 1 and 2 they fucking nailed it. I think between Tony Hawk 1 and 2 there's 25 songs total. And because those were PlayStation 1 so it was a much more limited space. And 22 of them made the jump to the remake. Only three of them couldn't do the licensing.

[Andy Cortez]

The Beatles skating out there to Abbey Road.

[Tim Gettys]

Then there was a additional about 25 songs, new songs added. And I loved the the 1 and 2 soundtrack. Like it was so damn good.

[Andy Cortez]

You mentioned the skaters getting older. I. I just had to google Eric Coston cuz I like whenever I see him I'm like he looks like a cool dad, but I wasn't sure if he's dead. He is a dad. Confirmed.

[Tim Gettys]

Hell yeah. Shout out to you Eric Costin. He was always my go to. Yeah but this game is, I, I Love the soundtrack. It is. Reminds me a lot of what I loved about one and two of, hey, here's a bunch of new songs that feel like classics, that feel like the old Tony Hawking. You can hate it if you want just because it's different, but to me, I'm like, hey, I have new songs added to my Spotify that'll be here forever. Like, I'm really, really having a great time with it. I am shocked at how much they missed the mark, though, compared to the 1 and 2 remake. In terms of just bringing back the classics, there are so few original or Tony Hawk three and four songs in three and four remake. It's kind of shocking.

[Nick Scarpino]

I just looked it up.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

It's only 10 returning songs between both games.

[Andy Cortez]

Damn.

[Tim Gettys]

And those games had significantly larger soundtracks one and two, so that's kind of a letdown. There are some, like, fun caveats to that, where a lot. In addition to that to. To what Barrett just said, a lot of the bands whose songs are cut are in the game just with different songs. Oh, so like, Iron Maiden had Number of the Beast in four, which I freaking loved. And now it has two Minutes to Midnight or whatever. It's.

[Nick Scarpino]

Yeah. Sex Pistols has a different song instead.

[Tim Gettys]

Of Anarchy in the uk. Like.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

So there's a lot of. A lot of that. Which.

[Andy Cortez]

Fascinating.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't really know why they did that.

[Andy Cortez]

I mean, maybe this goes along with not having the Nike license. Maybe it was just like, we made a lot of money back on 1 and 2 remake, and 3 and 4 is projected to be a little bit less. So let's spend less on those things possibly.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't know. But. So that is. That's a bummer. But it doesn't get in my way because the soundtrack's great.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. I mean, I was kind of bummed out, though, that, you know, when I brought up Turnstile the other week and Tim was like, oh, that's in the new game or in the new Tony Hawk. I was like, that sounds perfect. Because they are totally band that should be in Tony Hawk. And it's like, it's an okay song. It's one of their older songs, but it's like, man, there's so many better options that it could have had from newer albums.

[Blessing Junior]

There's like, no more. Like, one of the most magical moments I've had playing a video game maybe ever is Kick Push coming on. Yeah, like, Kick Push coming on while.

[Tim Gettys]

Playing We're Here, Baby.

[Blessing Junior]

I'm like, this is such a perfect vibe. It's such a perfect song, right? And I'm like, it's crazy experiencing two different intense feelings of nostalgia at the same time. Because I'm playing Tony Hawk while listening to Lupe Fiasco.

[Andy Cortez]

Kick Push. When that pops on, right? I wish that it was. There was like an open road or an open Rome, just like. I guess you could turn the timer up maybe, but, like, I don't know, it just. It kind of feels like I just. It was the equivalent to driving down the coast in Vice City with, you know, some 80s song playing, you know?

[Tim Gettys]

I mean. Yeah. Again, though, like, that is proof to me that, like, sure, there might be some reason. There's clearly reasons they couldn't get the Things they would have done it if they could have, right?

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

But Tony Hawk 1 and 2, like, getting the. The nostalgia and style, but still being, like, new. They added A Tribe Called Quest. Can I Kick It? Which feels like that should have been in Tony Hawk to begin with, right? And this one, adding Kick Push, it's like, God, this just feels absolutely.

[Blessing Junior]

Nailed it. And like, yeah, Kendrick. Yeah. There's like a whole handful, like, Collard Greens, which is also in the. Which is also in GTA 5, which is funny. Like, Steve Lacy, CU girl is in here. Vince Staples. North. North is on here. Like, they got, like, a good handful of really good songs. Like, a lot of good variety, too, right? Of, like, me hearing songs where I'm like, oh, damn. Like, this is bringing it back to Tony Hawk, where I would not have heard the song if this game was introducing it to me right now.

[Nick Scarpino]

Chat makes a good point. And looking at the actual songs from returning bands that have different songs, I.

[Andy Cortez]

Feel like some of these songs definitely.

[Nick Scarpino]

Don'T have, like, the same level of notoriety as some of those original. And I imagine because of that are definitely. Probably cheaper to license, right? Like Sex Pistols. The song now is Holidays in the sun, which probably is a bit in terms of trying to figure out cost analysis, right?

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah.

[Nick Scarpino]

Probably just cheaper to do something different. Same, but different.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. Which is fun. Like, there are a ton of bands, like, obviously, like, you're talking about some of the more mainstream classic rock stuff, but there's a couple. Like, the Toy Dolls is one of the punk bands that, like, I don't think you guys have ever heard of the Toy Dolls otherwise, right? Like, they're just. I just know them from Tony Hawk. They have a new song, and I'm just like. Because they had a song called Dig that Groove Baby in. In four that I loved. It was a weird song and now this one. I forget the name of it, but it's like, oh, it just. It's given me the vibe of like, oh my God, this. I'm having this nostalgia hit for something I've never actually heard before. And I do like learning new music even from older artists. Like, that's part of the joy of Tony Hawk.

[Andy Cortez]

I want to get to a couple of super chats. We have one from Alec Bobko. Thank you, Alec Babco, for your $5 super chat. And asks what advice would you give to a newcomer to the Tony Hawk pro skater franchise? Didn't play much when I was a young. When I was younger, aside from on the PS1 demo disc and THPS2 on Game Boy Advance.

[Tim Gettys]

Oh, love that game. Love that game so much. My advice would be to go into it and think of it as a 3D platformer. Like it is. You're in a level, they want you to explore every nook and cranny of that level, you. They put a bunch of fun things to collect. And that's a joke. Don't get overwhelmed too much by like being good or getting good, any of that stuff. Just skating around and getting the things is fun. There's a lot of satisfying, just like reward in this game. Like the sound design is impeccable, the visuals, all of it's so good when you get your special meter up. And the music like has that like reverb effect added to it. Like there's just a lot of fun here. So just skating around I think is step one. Like don't, don't get overwhelmed. Because I think it's easy to get overwhelmed in all the mechanics and like learning it all. I don't think there's any way for this game to teach you how to play it at a great level just because of how much is going on. The tutorial though, tries its best. So I'd say play the tutorial, like learn the basics, but don't feel overwhelmed. And yeah, treat it more like a Banjo kazooie or a Mario 64 than a skate.

[Andy Cortez]

For sure. That's such a great call because it does. The feeling that I get from restarting a run here reminds me of restarting a run in Astrobot when I want to. I missed that one little thing at the end of the level. I'm like, ah, I should have gotten that. I gotta start that again. And it's fun because it's just inherently satisfying to play.

[Blessing Junior]

I think by the tip I'll give is like the first time I remember Playing Tony Hawk was at a friend's house. They had it on a computer and it was a demo. It was for Tony hawk Pro Skater 2. And you could only play that level hanger.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Blessing Junior]

And I loved playing it because, like, and there are no objectives. It was not career mode. It was just like a free skateboard thing that was available. So I'm just like, grinding. I'm like trying out, like, doing the ollies and doing the flips and stuff. And like, that for me was enough to just have a blast with it. And so, like, I think the thing I'd say is like, going to free skate and don't. Even if you're going into career and you're like, frustrated trying to find the things or doing the tricks or whatever, like, just go to free skate and just fuck around for a while.

[Tim Gettys]

I would say if you are playing this game for the very first time, just immediately go in to. I don't remember where it is in settings. It might be in game mods, but you can turn the timer to just an hour. Oh, yeah, And I think that's right. Don't stress yourself out trying to get everything in two minutes. I think that that is a fairly antiquated form of playing in a lot of ways, but I understand it's why they have it here. And the goals are designed around it. But if you don't have the nostalgia memory of playing it 20 years ago, I think it kind of gets in the way. Just like set it to an hour and then just like, collect the things at your leisure.

[Blessing Junior]

Yeah.

[Andy Cortez]

Another super chat from Guitar Hero arrow with a $5 super chat says, here's my birthday tax. Thank you guys for the hundreds upon hundreds of hours of. Of entertainment up over the years. Happy birthday, Guitar.

[Tim Gettys]

Happy birthday.

[Andy Cortez]

Let's see. Any final thoughts? We want to get out there when it comes to, like, new stuff. I mean, my final thoughts I played there's the Doomslayer.

[Tim Gettys]

Dude. The two music fits so well.

[Andy Cortez]

It's awesome.

[Tim Gettys]

I. I really think that it's. That it's all like, hidden behind the collector's edition stuff. But, like, they. They made sure it was worth it. Like, you get multiple Doom decks, you get two Doom characters. The music is what goes the furthest for me. Yeah. Michelangelo is a secret skater. Secret skaters are better than they were in Tony Hawk 1 and 2, but definitely not what they should have been.

[Andy Cortez]

Who were they wanted to.

[Tim Gettys]

There wasn't any, like, ones at all. Yeah, it was just like there was a skeleton, like, Neversoft guy and Then Officer Dick, but there wasn't any like Michelangelo or anything like that.

[Andy Cortez]

So I enjoy. I enjoyed seeing Michelangelo there.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah. But my biggest thing I want to say is like, I just can't believe this game is real. We've been saying that for a long time of like, from announcement to this game now being something that I'm playing. I am just so happy that in a world where video games are fucked and the industry is fucked, somehow good news can still happen and projects can be saved. Like Vicarious visions died and this game still exists. Like, this is such a insane. I would have never believed it. I feel like I'm in a different universe type thing because, like, how did everything play out that I'm playing three and four and it's this good. Barrett.

[Nick Scarpino]

Sorry, I just. Because people keep asking about like Switch to performance and all that stuff. I did find one review that reviewed it on Switch 2, which is from Nintendoworldreport.com's while online on Switch 2 ran great. In my experience, the same can't be said for overall stuff.

[Andy Cortez]

Stability.

[Nick Scarpino]

Visually, everything looks fine docked and on handheld, but the game crashed back to the console's home screen close to 10 times over my 20 plus hours of gameplay. I haven't played other versions to know if this is just a Switch 2 problem. But even if there's a decent chance these issues get resolved. As it stands as I read this, it's shaky right now, so interesting.

[Blessing Junior]

I don't. For me, it's always tough, like talking about stability stuff on Steam Deck, because oftentimes, like a lot of reviews will say, don't review this on Steam Deck yet. We're not ready. So I don't want to make this like a definitive thing. But also, I did have crashes on my Steam Deck, but again, don't take that as gospel for like how it runs on PC. Overall, cool.

[Tim Gettys]

People in the chat are asking how the trophy is. I mean, guys, I'm just in such a bad place. Yeah, I. I should be more embarrassed than I am to admit how much I literally begged them to give me a PlayStation code instead of a PC code. And they're like, we're sorry we gave the PC. And I'm like, I know, but please.

[Andy Cortez]

Please, but make it right.

[Tim Gettys]

I called somebody and I was like, please, please. I was like, I. I want a platinum this very bad. And they're like, we know, Tim, we.

[Andy Cortez]

Know, but you don't understand.

[Tim Gettys]

But they do understand. They just are like, we're sorry we had you guys on the PC side of just Like. I know. But anyway, so, yeah, I'm now 20 hours into the PC one. I'm like. I don't know that I'm going to want to. I will probably.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. I mean, you will.

[Tim Gettys]

No, but I do think, you know, Greg was talking about this recently, about, like, how he's given up the Platinum race and all that, and, you know, he's fucking Greg now, and I'm just like, I think I might have to take the hit with this one. Not just.

[Andy Cortez]

I think. I think I'm gonna have to take the crown. I thought you were gonna, like, take over.

[Tim Gettys]

No. God, no.

[Andy Cortez]

No.

[Tim Gettys]

And I. I only care about the games. I care.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

You know what I mean? Like, I got my Tony Hawk 1 and 2 that I worked really hard for. I got my Astro. All the insomnia.

[Nick Scarpino]

You're not getting Platinums for zj. Zj the ball.

[Tim Gettys]

I'm not. I'm not. But I definitely should be Platinum.

[Andy Cortez]

Saying that word for the rest of.

[Tim Gettys]

My life, dude, play the game. Play the game. It's the magical world. I'm all this is to be said. The one and two Platinum, I was bitching about for a long time. Like, the final trophy was bullshit. And it was a grind that was simply not fun. And you just had to play a lot for. To get to level 100. This game does not have levels anymore, which is great. The challenges in this one are a lot more clear and fun and worth doing. Like, I'm really, really satisfied with the amount of content, what they're asking and the challenge and all that stuff. Having said that, instead of tying it to the levels, there's one thing where they are now, it seems to me, at least I have a couple of things I need to do first. I think you unlock solo tours after you do all the pro challenges, which allow you to then go back and beat the game as every single skater.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Gettys]

And they're asking me to do that.

[Blessing Junior]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Gettys]

You know what? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

[Blessing Junior]

He's gonna do it.

[Andy Cortez]

He's gonna do it.

[Blessing Junior]

Well, I'm not.

[Tim Gettys]

And especially now, if. If it's. It's. I don't even have my PlayStation code. I don't know, guys.

[Blessing Junior]

He's gonna do it.

[Andy Cortez]

1. I had one more question, Tim, because you mentioned this prior to us even coming out here, when I was kind of building the dock and asking questions, but you mentioned that Carnival and Chicago are not in four.

[Tim Gettys]

Yes. So, yeah, we have two levels missing from what was Originally in Tony Hawk's four Carnival, which was a bonus level in four. Kind of regarded as one of the worst core neversoft Tony Hawk levels ever. So I'm not really sad that it's gone. No. It always felt undercooked and it was a bonus level. So like a little weird. It's not here. But just for sheer completionism. But like, whatever. And then Chicago was Matt Hoffman 2 level that because it was done. There's like fucking. It's here. It almost felt like a tease of like there's other extreme sports games.

[Andy Cortez]

Like, you know, man, the universe is expanding.

[Blessing Junior]

They had a demo for like some snowboarding game on three. I remember playing. Forget which snowboarding game was.

[Tim Gettys]

I forgot the guy's name.

[Blessing Junior]

Sean White.

[Tim Gettys]

I don't think it was 10, was it.

[Andy Cortez]

It was after a person.

[Nick Scarpino]

Now I feel like that was before Shaun White got.

[Andy Cortez]

It was funny after a while looking back at these extreme sports games because they. They just put the athlete's name in the same oval that Tony hawk's name was.

[Tim Gettys]

No.

[Andy Cortez]

2. Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

The brand.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah. They were doing. Yeah. It reminds me like989 sports were like. They had all their sort of brands.

[Tim Gettys]

Tony Hawk 4 had Kelly Slater's pro surfer. Oh. Yep. And then. Oh, Tony Hawk 3 had some pro wakeboarding.

[Andy Cortez]

No way.

[Tim Gettys]

Swear to God.

[Blessing Junior]

Wait, Sean Palmer, I think is the guy.

[Tim Gettys]

Sean Palmer.

[Andy Cortez]

Donna Palmer.

[Blessing Junior]

For the snowboarding game, there's a Sean White. Like two. They're having two snowboarding legends both named Sean with a U.

[Andy Cortez]

Is kind of can't do that.

[Blessing Junior]

It's kind of wild that it happened twice. They both got video games.

[Andy Cortez]

That's one of those. Like one of us is going to have to change our. Our dress.

[Blessing Junior]

That's crazy. I do have one more question of what's next because I. I don't want this to be the end for Tony Hawk Games.

[Tim Gettys]

That is a. Excellent question. Look, there's a. A lot to be seen. Right. Obviously this franchise has had a tumultuous history and I don't need to get into too many of the details here, but there was the classic games. It got annualized. It overstayed its welcome. Then it kind of came back. They got gimmicky. There was the Ride and Shred, where you're actually standing on the board and like, you know, the franchise lost itself.

[Andy Cortez]

Yeah.

[Tim Gettys]

Then they started putting out Tony hawk's Pro Skater HD. And then there's Tony Ash Pro Skater 5. Straight up cash grabs, horrible games. Robomoto was in charge of those. Like that Was straight up bad times to be a Tony Hawk fan. And it felt like there was no recovering. This is peak. This is as good as it's going to possibly get. So the question here is, is it possible for a new Tony Hawk to come out? And I think the answer absolutely is yes. The fact that this is on so many different systems, I think this people are going to love this game. It's on game pass. I think this is going to do incredibly well. One and two did incredibly well. So I think that the chances of a new Tony Hawk are very high. The fact that this features three brand new levels and they're as good as they are, I think is very important to looking at the future of these games. I would not be surprised if we do don't get the Thug 1 and 2 or even just Thug 1 remake. Instead they make a. A new Tony Hawk's pro skater. But also if they take on the challenge of a Thug remake, I think they'd pull it off like. I have full faith in Iron Galaxy based on what they did here. Specifically with the Pinball Water park and Movie studio, which are the three new.

[Andy Cortez]

Levels that are awesome of our now our those secret levels are two of them in three and one of them is in four.

[Tim Gettys]

No. So what's. What's interesting is those. They're not secret levels. They're just levels. Pinball I guess is the only secret level and even that has goals. But they're. They're set as Tony Hawk. Four levels.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

All three of them. And couple weird things. Kona, which was a full level with goals in Tony Hawk. Ford, that's a recreation of an actual skate park in Hawaii, which is super cool. But it also is a lot of people's one of their less favorite levels because it's so real and accurate to the real life location that it just like doesn't allow for like fun combos and stuff. So they turned that into a tournament level instead of get the goals level.

[Andy Cortez]

Okay.

[Tim Gettys]

And they did the same to Zoo, which is kind of a letdown. And then Movie Studio is a tournament as well. Water park and Pinball get full on all the different goals and the pro goals as well.

[Andy Cortez]

Very cool. Well, that's gonna do it for us, everybody. I. I had a good time talking Hawk with y'. All.

[Tim Gettys]

Talking Hawk, everyone.

[Andy Cortez]

I hope you all enjoy Tony Hawk when it comes out tomorrow for early access and then the 11th for everybody else. And this game is available freaking everywhere.

[Tim Gettys]

Freaking everywhere, man. Cross Play, which is cool. I think it's gonna have a much more vibrant online community than 1 and 2 had. Because of that no cross progression, which is a bummer.

[Andy Cortez]

Well, I'm rooting for you and blesses theme cloud tapes to get rocking.

[Tim Gettys]

Yeah, I think that'll be.

[Andy Cortez]

That'll be nice because this game's really, really pretty. I was, like, kind of blown away by some of the visuals in some spots with lighting and everything. That's gonna do it for us here on the Gamescast, everybody. Up next, we have Jurassic World Rebirth in review, followed by Dune Awakening with me and Nick. We'll see you all next time. Take care of yourself. Take care of each other. Goodbye, gamers.