Can Alessa & Jamie Hold On? | Road to Pro Ep2 | The Megapod

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Podcast: Kitesurf365: The Megapod
Episode Title: Can Alessa & Jamie Hold On? | Road to Pro Ep2
Hosts: Adrian Kerr & Colin Colin Carroll
Air Date: April 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Megapod dives into the latest controversies, updates, and humor in the world of kiteboarding. Adrian and Colin discuss rider sponsorship drama, the unpredictable world championship standings, new gear launches (especially the much-anticipated Slingshot NXT v2), and the upcoming Mykonos event. The episode also showcases the signature banter and offbeat tone that's a hallmark of the show, culminating in talk about their "Road to Pro" video series and the evolving culture of kiteboarding media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Finn Flugel’s Brand Hopping & Rider Sponsorship Flexibility

• Issue: Finn is riding kites not made by his sponsoring brand, raising eyebrows.
• Colin: Finn has always pushed boundaries and seemed to operate outside normal contractual restrictions.

  “Maybe when you get that much power and that much sort of momentum, you can get away with doing stuff like that. Because I don't know any other rider who could, to be honest.” (00:54)

• Adrian: The concise answer to Finn’s success:

  “He’s smart.” (01:46)

• Advice from hosts: The best kite for your performance should be prioritized over sponsorship deals.

  “Go and ride all the kites and choose the kite you want and, you know, prove yourself on that Kite and let the, let the brand come to you...” (02:13)

2. Upcoming Mykonos Event and World Championship Drama

• Uncertainty: Mykonos event isn’t even confirmed on GKA’s website yet, raising the possibility the season could end early and champions could be decided by default.

  “It could easily...That is a very real possibility that the second event doesn't run. One, based on GKA flakiness; two, that wind window is tiny...” (03:15)

• Discussion: Pressure on Jamie Overbeek and Alessa Minche to convert their leads, with a history of first event leaders not maintaining through to the end.
• Case Studies:
  • Liam Whaley (2023) couldn’t convert early win.
  • Jamie Overbeek, Edgar, Pippa—examples where favorites stumbled and others capitalized.
• Colin:

  “You have to think about execution rather than outcome. And I really think that kiteboarders don't do that very well. I think they always think about the outcome and I think that's what trips them up.” (08:46)

3. Event Location Challenges: Why Mykonos is a Wildcard

• Mika’s Discomfort: Mykonos and Cape Town are tough spots, especially for riders from consistent conditions like Brazil.

  “If you had to pick a spot that she doesn't really like, it'd be that or Cape Town, you'd have to say.” (06:36)

• Wave & Wind Quirks: Mykonos’s waves run with the wind rather than against, creating tricky takeoff conditions.

4. Changing of the Guard & Rider Psychology

• New Faces: The mood among competitors has shifted—young guns are less intimidated by legends like Andrea and Lorenzo.

  “That suit of invincibility has got a big dent...we never saw that. We haven't really seen that in the past, which is super cool.” (09:18)

• Chasing vs. Defending:

  “It's a lot easier to be the chaser than to be chased... When you're sitting on top of that mountain, man, you got everything to lose.” (10:06)

• Andrea and Lorenzo’s Comeback:

  “I think their reign will continue. I don't think they're gone. I think they've been challenged.” (10:23)

5. Gear Talk: Slingshot NXT v2 & Kite Comparisons

• Slingshot NXT v2 Hype:

  “The Hype teaser video is up. The footage looks amazing… It was genuinely 60 knots and Zach Adams just goes out and does the doobie first trick.” (12:55)

• Performance Observations: NXT kites are powerful, have a bigger sweet spot, easier to handle; older models will now be discounted—a value tip for listeners.

  Quick Gear Comparison:

  • NXT1 8m has more punch than Harlem Peak 9m (15:29).
  • Peaks not getting desired height in recent events, while NXT appears more forgiving (15:46).

• Brand Competition: Rapid shifts in dominance excite the hosts:

  “Maybe it's going to be Slingshot. I love this competition. It drives the brands...the kites can do way more than the riders can do now, which is super cool.” (16:33–17:39)

6. Road to Pro Series—Behind the Scenes & Future Plans

• New Episode: Ep 2 is live; includes attempts to recreate Aaron Hadlow’s classic CGI scenes, with results that were “embarrassing but hilarious.”

  “You can just hear him going, ah, for sake.” (18:08)

• Content Strategy: Debating uploading Road to Pro Season 1 to YouTube to reach a bigger audience, but balancing business concerns.
• Mission Statement: Wanting their video productions to be regarded among the iconic kiteboarding pieces:

  “Our ultimate goal is to get our business to a point where we're very capable of putting stuff out there for free that propels the sport forward.” (21:12)

7. Upcoming Content & Cartoon Teases

• Hosts tease a new kiteboarding cartoon project, aiming for a new creative direction and opportunities for playful rider storylines.

  “The scope of that cartoon is actually kind of crazy, eh? If you think about the possibilities...” (22:15)

• Colin proposes a plot where Tom Bridge falls in love with a winger, adding fresh drama (23:33).

8. Winging & “Bridge Family” Segment

• Reluctant but ultimately appreciative discussion of Guy Bridge’s intense winging/downwinder video in New Zealand.

  “It's the kind of stuff that very, very few people could do. And when I look at that, I think, wow, this is what Guy Nema should be doing. Forget about racing. Racing's bollocks. This is cool as.” (24:01–24:40)

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Notable Quotes

• On Finn Flugel’s Brand Flexibility:
  “Maybe when you get that much power and that much sort of momentum, you can get away with doing stuff like that.” — Colin, (00:54)

• Concise Summary of Finn’s Success:
  “He’s smart.” — Adrian, (01:46)

• On Psychological Approach:
  “You have to think about execution rather than outcome... kiteboarders don't do that very well.” — Colin, (08:46)

• Chasing vs. Defending Champion:
  “It's a lot easier to be the chaser than to be chased... you got everything to lose.” — Colin, (10:06)

• Pride in Media Innovation:
  “The one thing I'm proud of is... putting stuff out that's of a different tone to everything else in a lot of different ways as well.” — Adrian, (21:55)

• On Pushing the Sport Forward:
  “Our ultimate goal is to get our business to a point where we're very capable of putting stuff out there for free that propels the sport forward.” — Adrian, (21:12)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Finn Flugel’s Sponsorship Flexibility: 00:42–02:33
• Mykonos Event and World Championship Scenarios: 03:02–05:26
• Rider Pressure & Psychology: 04:53–09:18
• New Talent Challenging the Old Guard: 09:18–10:49
• Gear Deep Dive: Slingshot NXT v2: 12:55–17:39
• Road to Pro Behind-the-Scenes & Marketing: 17:43–21:47
• Cartoon Project Teaser: 22:15–23:33
• Bridge Family & Winging Segment: 24:01–25:40

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Memorable Moments

• The hosts laughing about the impossibly “embarrassing” Road to Pro episode filming, especially Pete unexpectedly volunteering to do a Rayleigh in a morph suit (18:14–19:38).
• Open and self-deprecating reflections on their approach to media, and the unique space their videos occupy in the sport (21:11 onward).
• Colin’s facetious suggestion:

  “Let's drop a spoiler. When Pete put his head up and said, I. I'll do a Rayleigh. And everyone was like, what are you talking about? Why wasn't Jason doing the Rayleigh?” (18:19)

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Tone & Style

Casual, irreverent, and self-aware, the hosts blend deep industry knowledge with humor and a willingness to poke fun at themselves. They riff on inside jokes, industry politics, and the unique subculture emerging within the kiteboarding scene.

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Conclusion

This episode offers insight and entertainment for both diehard fans and those keeping tabs on the evolving dynamics in kiteboarding. Whether discussing sponsorship drama, technical gear details, or the pitfalls of high-stakes competition, Adrian and Colin deliver the goods with a trademark blend of expertise and banter.

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Transcript

[A]

In this episode, we end up talking about winging, which I didn't like one bit, but amongst other things, Slingshot NXT v2 is coming out very soon. We talk about that and what the impact's going to have. We talk about why Finn Flugel is seemingly able to ride whatever he. He wants and gets away with it. And we talk about the forthcoming event that's coming up in Mykonos.

[B]

Catastrophic equipment failure.

[A]

Going for the Boogaloo double just to get the landing. Oh, had a couple of str and it was extremely dangerous. Guys, I sent the trap and it

[B]

is gold for Ellie Aldridge and gold for Great Britain.

[A]

Why is Finn Flugel able to ride a foil kite made by a brand that isn't paying him? He's on Duotone. Why isn't he strictly on those?

[B]

I mean, this is something that Finn's done before. If you remember back to when he was riding with Air Rush, he did Big Ear on Duotone, he rode foil kites. He's always been a person who's pushed the limit. And I think when you've got such star power, I guess the guard rails are more like sort of guidelines, you know, and you can sort of get away with a bit more sort of murder. Because I remember with Air Rush, he would do freestyle on the Razor, he'd do big air on Duotone, he would still ride the foil kites. He definitely doesn't have a relationship that I know about with Fly Surfer, but he does the hydr 4 bigger on fly surfer as well. So maybe when you get that much power and that much sort of momentum, you can get away with doing stuff like that. Because I don't know any other rider who could, to be honest.

[A]

Do you want to know the. The answer in two words? Because I'm the more concise, articulate one, John. Do you want me to just simplify it?

[B]

Yeah, do it.

[A]

He's smart.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's also it, too. That's also it as well.

[A]

The amount of times Adrian and I have told riders to go and buy the kite that they think they can get the best out of themselves on and then let the rest of the. The rest of the career come. And do they ever listen, Adrian?

[B]

Maybe Finn did.

[A]

I don't think we said it to

[B]

him, but I actually, you know what? I have had that conversation this week with very, very big writer in the industry, and I did say to them, go out and ride all the kites and choose the kite you want and, you know, prove yourself on that Kite and let the, Let the brain come to you, because I think that's is an option.

[A]

You're gonna say who I. I can't be ashamed to not say a little bit more.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Do it in a riddle. Do a really cryptic riddle.

[B]

You've put me on the spot. We'll. We'll get that person on the podcast soon and, and break down how. How it went down. When are they going to be releasing the fleets for Mykonos? Is that also going to be top 10 plus or is it going to.

[A]

The event's not even confirmed yet on the website.

[B]

Oh, I believe it's going to be confirmed. Yeah, I think.

[A]

Well, I believe it is too.

[B]

But dude, imagine if they don't confirm that and Jamie and Alyssa are world champions on the back of that, mate.

[A]

It could easily five day win window. That is a very real, it's a very real possibility that the second event doesn't run. One, based on GKA flakiness, two, based on the fact that that wind window is tiny in a place that isn't. It's not trade winds. Very probable being a few of the gka.

[B]

We were in Mykonos, there was no wind. What would you do to hype up these two riders for a world championship? Because obviously they want to make the big fanfare. The crowds there, you know, like the big pop from all this on this victory. What would you do to make it up to them? Because it's kind of be kind of a crap way to win.

[A]

What would I do? Table test tournament on the beach.

[B]

Winner takes all. I was thinking about the pressure on Jamie Overbeak and Alyssa Minch this week and thinking that, you know, one thing in kite boarding that we don't have is we just don't have enough points. Race competitions and, you know, like, you know, if you play sports, you play any team sports, you know, you always, you know, one thing that the sort of narrative within the team is always about, we're looking for consistency versus the peaks. You know, we want to, we want consistency versus breakout performances. We want to keep the momentum of winning as a habit and just try and look for positive results all the way through. But when you only have one event, it really throws a spinner. And, you know, if we look back over, over this world championship, none of the leaders have gone on to win. If we take out the sing when it's a single event, but every time we've had a double event, we've really struggled there.

[A]

Liam Whaley being the key one.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, let's talk about the first one being liam. So in 2023 Liam beat Andrea at Lords of Tram. Had all the hype, couldn't finish it off, slipped up. Andre went on, drew that final with Cohen and and took the World championship. Jamie in 20241 Lords of Tram event, had gear failure and a big crash and couldn't go through. Jeremy went on a win. We had it the next year. Edgar led in 2025, won the Brazil event, had all the hype. Edgar really prepared for that, like over the top, prepared to try.

[A]

24, 24, 11, 24.

[B]

That event was in 24:25. Remember the.

[A]

The first, yeah.

[B]

Was in 24:25. Andre actually won the event in Lords of Tram but Lauren got two seconds and went on one it. So the big question is, can Jamie do it for the second time? 2026, keep that pressure and go on and win. I mean history says no. And that's happened on the woman's side too. Happened with Pippa. Happened. Pippa led that first round one at the Lords of Trams. Got pit by Zara. Alyssa's in the same position and you'd have to think the writers like Finn and Micah who are used to more sort of points accumulation type events that would favor them and for sure Micah knows what to do, Anfin knows what to do. I think these big ear boys, maybe they can't handle the pressure from back to back comps.

[A]

We were in Mykonos for the Z project last year which is by the way the long length video is going to come out this summer in time for this GKA stop. That's the plan. And I can't remember Mika being happy riding in Mykonos, can you?

[B]

She was riding a strapless board as well.

[A]

She just doesn't. Wasn't gelling with it, didn't like it. So do I think she's capable of taking out the World Championship? Of course. Is my money on her? Of course. But if you had to pick a spot that she doesn't really like, it'd be that or Cape Town, you'd have to say.

[B]

But why though? Because I mean it arguably like Jamie said, you know, it's arguably like a flat spot at times, the way, the way the sort of rolling waves come rolling in. You're not really running up kickers because the waves are going the same way as the wind.

[A]

I know. But only Jamie Overbeat thinks that's a flat spot because what he's used to is so awful.

[B]

That is true as well. Yeah, that is true.

[A]

Whereas Mica she's from Brazil. She's used to perfect flat. Yeah, it's. It's a really tough spot, Mykonos, isn't it? We've ridden there quite a bit too. It's difficult. People always ask, like, oh, where should I go for a summer kite trip? I often do say Mykonos. Just go look at. You need to look on the forecast.

[B]

I'm just trying to think about, you know, like, team sports that I've played and I always, always try to think about good coaches and, you know, good coaches. We always used to talk about executions versus outcomes. You know, like, if you're always focused on the outcome, man, I reckon that really trips you up. I think if you, if you focus on. Well, let's talk about as a tennis player, let's, let's use a reference to you. If you say, right, this event, I really want to, like, nail my serves. I want to, you know, work on my footwork, you know, basically putting execution into little things that will actually add up to wins. And I think that you have to think about it that way. I think too many big ear riders come into these second leg and just think, I've got to win it, you know, rather than thinking, man, I got to land my tricks. I want to get my strategy right. I'm getting my preparation sorted. I'm not going to leave any stone unturned. Sort of like what you hear people like, you know, Jamie say this year and, and Alyssa coming in, you know, I was fully prepared and totally ready. Everything was in line. I, I like that thought, that you need to think about execution rather than outcome. And I really think that kite borders don't do that very well. I think they always think about the outcome and I think that's what trips them up.

[A]

Whereas they've got to be a slave to the process, haven't they?

[B]

The best people are. That's what they do. If you look at Lorenzo, man, he doesn't leave any stone into it. It's the same breakfast, it's the same setup, it's the same every single time. That's why they're successful. It's that consistency, it's that making. Making winning a habit.

[A]

I also think that everyone is so individual and what can work for those two will not work for others. I think Lorenzo puts an enormous amount of pressure on himself and that seems to work. It seems to get the best out of him. Do that to another person and it won't work at all.

[B]

You might agree with me, I do feel like that air of Holy shit. I'm in a heat with Andrea and Lorenzo and Jeremy. I really feel like that. That. That suit of invincibility has got a big dent. Yeah, that aura's gone. That's even a better way to say it. You know, I do believe that these young guys, they don't fear these guys so much now, especially with. With Martin Kuski. I. I heard his nickname is Kobe. I'm going to have to call him Kobe from now on, so, you know, people like Kobe coming in and not fearing Andrea. I love that.

[A]

Why is his. Why is his nickname Kobe?

[B]

Because his last name is K. Ki. It's just like a short name. I. I think it's cool name Kobe.

[A]

Nothing to do with the basketball player.

[B]

It's a play on. On Kobe. You know, Kobe was that sort of pressure, that pressure guy. But, you know, young guys coming in like that and not fearing these guys, we never saw that. We haven't really seen that in the past, which is super cool.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. True, true.

[B]

By the way, it's a lot easier to be the chaser than to be chased, you know? You know, because when you're the chaser, you got nothing to lose. When you're sitting on top of that mountain, man, you got everything to lose. And it's difficult to be the king, you know, like, it's difficult to be on the top because, you know, you've got more to lose than the people have got nothing to lose, so.

[A]

Man, Andrea and Lorenzo did it well, though, didn't they? They were like proper kings. I think. Honestly, I think their reign will continue. I don't think they're gone. I think they've been challenged.

[B]

No, I think they'll rise to the occasion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look on. Andrea needs to find where he is and what he wants to do. Lorenzo will be back for sure. Lorenzo will be pissed. He went out in round three. That's. That's like going out in round three at King of the Year with Andrea. It's just not done.

[A]

The other one is Leonardo. Leonardo is actually in contention for the World Championship still.

[B]

Yeah, he's.

[A]

He came third.

[B]

Third. But that means he has to beat. He's got to finish above Jamie and Finn, which is going to be super difficult. From third and fourth, it's really, really hard to win.

[A]

No, it isn't. No, it isn't. Lorenzo and Andrea could easily disrupt. That could put them both out in the semifinals. Could easily happen. This is why Mykonos is going to be so good. Massive. Massive event. It's going to be Epic. We can't wait.

[B]

If you are thinking you're going to Mykonos, start looking for accommodation now, guys, because I'm going to let you know it's horrifically expensive.

[A]

It's really.

[B]

Oh, you know, mate, I was thinking about just staying in, in the Duotone Pro center there on the beach. Just sleeping up the back.

[A]

Can we, we could ask. I wouldn't mind that they got showers, huh?

[B]

Yeah, we could just do that. We could just bring some tents, some pop up tents. 45 knots on the beach trying to do the.

[A]

Do you think you're going to be able to attend, mate?

[B]

Look, bro, I mean, I'm saying I'm coming now for sure. I, I don't want to miss another one. It really hurt to miss but I don't know what's going on, dude. I, I, I see. I'm, there's people here I'm seeing all the time who are just getting flights canceled and they can't get back and they're just staying. Really.

[A]

Yeah, I just, the one thing I just would not want is to fly you across and then you get stuck in Doha. That would be terrible.

[B]

One time I spent 24 hours in the Doha airport before, during, you know, during the Football World Cup. That was hell. And there wasn't even a war. 24 hours in the airport during the football, football cup when there was some plane problems. Oh, that was just.

[A]

Yeah, no thanks.

[B]

Yeah, it's torture. Torture.

[A]

No, we can't have that. We can't have that. For a gentleman such as yourself, we simply can't, we can't even fathom it.

[B]

I want to say that I was in the lounge so it wasn't that bad. Okay.

[A]

My sympathy is waiting.

[B]

And I had taken over the family room and it was lying on the couch. So yeah, it wasn't, I wasn't doing too bad.

[A]

It wasn't all bad. SlingShot NXT v2 is starting to bubble now online. The the Hype teaser video is up. The footage looks amazing. I know that they got some mad conditions in Namibia. I remember Jeremy telling me that like everyone was kind of not scared, but everyone was apprehensive about the first day because it was, it was genuinely 60 knots and Zach Adams just goes out and does the doobie first trick that dirty pulls the trigger.

[B]

30 meters high is ridiculous.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Those guys came back from that trip and they were buzzing, right? They were, they were like buzzing. I think we can probably give some reference. I think they drove up like something crazy like 24 hours. They rode for three days and then turned around and drove back. So it's really risky sort of attack mission. But yeah, they absolutely nailed the conditions, that's for sure.

[A]

The other thing is people ask me, like, oh, what coach should I buy all the time? With this V2 coming out, it means the V1 will be on discount. If you can get a decent discount on a slingshot. Code V1, go and get it. May as well.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I think I have ridden the V2 yet. Don't know. But if they stepped it up in the way they think they have, it will be. It will be the kite that people want again.

[B]

This wasn't a V2, but it was. It was one of the new codes, not the Dacron codes. I was on a 12 the other day. It's 20 knots. The guy was on a 9 and he was like jumping way higher than me. It's like crazy that, that quite super powerful. I was on a reach, though. Let's put that in. In some type of reference. But yeah, I always find that quite super powerful. I always feel like it rode up a size, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I, I agree.

[B]

That one we have is an 8, right. It really feels like an. It feels powerful like a 9.

[A]

It's way, like, for comparison, the 9 Harlem Peak, it does get overpowered quicker. The 8, 8 meter code, nxt1, the blank one that we have. Actually, I don't even think it's the production one because I think it arrived for that blank test quite a long time before. But that one packs a lot more punch than a 9 meter Harlem peak. Remember going back and forth on those two kites and I was like, whoa, the Harlem nine meter Harlem Peak feels like a seven in comparison.

[B]

It's interesting, though. It was interesting hearing a lot of people talking about the peak in that last event. Not getting the height.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is strange because Lorenzo always seemed to find height with those kites on kickers. Ah, that's a good point. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. NXT is the one. NXT is the one bigger sweet spot, easier to use.

[B]

Can you utilize the kickers properly in Mykonos? Really?

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

But you're running the, The. The waves are running with you.

[A]

Yeah, they are running with you.

[B]

I remember during that day. Remember that day we had the boys out there and Lorenzo was out there just doing those massive, massive boosts. And he's going, if you ever got a Mykonos and you're standing looking down the bay on the side, you can see the mountains. He was going over those mountains and he was just, mate, he was flying and he was saying he was pulling it out of the. The troughs. He was like, I'm pulling this out of the troughs because it's just too crazy.

[A]

The troughs are the waves.

[B]

It means between the waves.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's going to be interesting. I mean, it's. It's cool going into these events and we've got all these new kites coming on. I mean, baby shark look great on the air rush and it's awesome that we've got, you know, and, you know, if you go back a few months ago, I was saying, hey, I remember when Nash were dominating the biggest scene. Then it was north, then it was Duotone, then it was Harlem. And I said, who's next? And you said, it's going to be slingshot. Maybe it's going to be slingshot. Jamie forcing, like, backers do it, Tone. But I love this competition. It drives the brands, it drives those designers to work harder. And if we can get. If. I'll try and get something for Addie from Eddie Conrad for next week. Just talking about, you know, wanting to be the best and, and, you know, Jeremy pushing those guys to work harder because it is super interesting at the top there with how hard those guys are pushing the kite. So I always felt like back in the day that the kites, the riders wanted to do more and the kites couldn't keep up. Now the kites have desperately changed. The kites are way better. You know, the kites can do way more than the riders can do now, which is super cool. Well, let's talk about Road to Pro.

[A]

Episode 2 of Road to Pro is online right now. As you're. As you're listening to this, it. It's the one where they try to recreate the famous Aaron Hadlow CGI scenes from back in the day. And they do. Do you want to explain how they do that?

[B]

No, no, you keep going, but I'm just laughing because it was embarrassing.

[A]

Adrian actually features quite heavily in this one. You can just hear him going, ah, for sake.

[B]

Is this. Is this. Is this. Is this the. The Morph suit in the. In the shallow area trying to do the Rayleigh.

[A]

This is the one we're talking.

[B]

Oh, my God, it's embarrassing. Can we. Let's drop a spoiler. When Pete put his head up and said, I. I'll do a Rayleigh. And everyone was like, what are you talking about? Why wasn't Jason doing the Rayleigh?

[A]

That's what we should have done. No, One knows. No one knows why we didn't make Jason Vanderspeed.

[B]

I, I actually, I am really looking forward to that because I'm looking forward to that one a lot. Because if anyone had seen what we were doing, my God, it would have been the most embarrassing thing you've probably ever seen in your life. It's ridiculous.

[A]

That was another session where the videography team couldn't handle. We were all just laughing so much. We couldn't really film it properly anymore. It was so stupid. Do you know the one thing I'm toying with Adrian is putting season one of Road to Pro on YouTube. That's the one like, marketing thing we haven't tried. We haven't done that yet. There's a chance we'll just reach a different audience and. But it is cannibalizing our business model, which I think is stupid to do. But what do you think on it?

[B]

How many episodes is one? It's four or five.

[A]

Five. It's five.

[B]

Five. It's quite a lot. I was gonna say you could do like a, you could do like a marathon into the finale, you know, maybe do a bit of a, you know, before the, before the finale, the two weeks out from the finale of this Road to Pro Japan, we could do a bit of a Road to Pro season one little freebie.

[A]

Let the people get excited because I think it's one. I think we should test it just to see how well it's. How well it converts to subscribers, but also just to test the. Well, we know the reception of it will be really good. It's a strong series. Our best selling from last year. Loads of good moments in it. Pete getting yarded, them all dancing like twats on the roundabout. Yeah. But another part of me thinks the streaming services don't do this portrait and

[B]

chill, baby, let's get that on a T shirt. Yeah. I got no problems with, with, with showing a couple of episodes. If, maybe if we'd been more organized, we could have put one free one, you know, have like season one, episode one, you know, running in between each week that these ones aren't on just to keep that sort of high pipe momentum running. But I don't mind doing a Road to Road to Pro season one little marathon.

[A]

I also love the idea of contributing stuff that, you know, we've already paid for, already accounted for, has already been in production, just sat there on the side. Why not put that in the public domain once it's run its course?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Because that's our ultimate goal, is to get Our business to a point where we're very capable of putting stuff out there for free that propels the sport forward.

[B]

Sure, yeah. I mean, I think you and I have spoke candidly about, you know, one day, you know, this stuff will all go on, you know, and hopefully people will look back at some of these videos and think, well, these are some of the great kiteboarding videos. When people talk about calibrate and, you know, these other amazing videos, they're going to include our stuff. I would like that. You know, why not?

[A]

Are they going to, though?

[B]

Why not? Of course. I think the Princess Portrait still is good.

[A]

I think we've done it in a different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The one thing I'm proud of is, like, putting stuff out that's of a different tone to everything else in a lot of different ways as well. Like, the tonally Nine Lives are so different to Motor Pro, which is so different to the Blank Kite Test.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is so different to the event documentary stuff that we've done in the past. And that's what I'm really proud of. The breadth.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's. It is. It is. It is super interesting. And. And we're changing again with this. With the cartoons coming. That cartoon, the. The scope of that cartoon is actually kind of crazy, eh? If you think about the possibilities of where that could go, as long as the riders buy into it and the riders are prepared. And, you know, last night I was. I was traveling, traveling, and I downloaded some of the Ricky Gervais extras. I thought, let me just check this out again. I mean, I've watched it many times, maybe two or three times. I've seen the whole series and it was the one with Colin Firth. Colin, he bring the girl over. He goes, right, she's a prostitute. He goes, oh, no, I wouldn't pay for her. He's making himself, like the biggest ever. It's just brilliant, you know, it's just so funny when. Then they fire her, they bring in this other girl, she's even worse. He's like, oh, my God. It's. It's just hilarious how. How these actors.

[A]

We just gotta get the right people on initially. Like Tom Bridge will get a heel. Will get it.

[B]

You reckon Tom will be down?

[A]

Yeah, I think he will. Is the. With the right part. I've got a good part for him.

[B]

Give us a little spoiler on the old what you're thinking for Tom.

[A]

I think I'd quite like him to fall in love with a Winger. And then our main character gets sent in to tear them apart. That's the. That's the. That's the drama.

[B]

That's not too far of a fetch though. I mean, winging runs strong in Tom's family.

[A]

Well, exactly.

[B]

Did you watch that? Did you watch Guy Bridges videos from New Zealand? That last one?

[A]

No. I can't believe you're telling me to watch a Winging video.

[B]

Honestly, I'll tell you what, I'm going to finish on this. I was disappointed that Guy never committed more to the Olympic campaign. I thought that he could have easily been there, could have done super well. But then when I'm watching this video of Guy, it's a downwinder in New Zealand. It's the first four minutes of the video and he's in like 35, 40 knots and he's just. No, he's just been blown by himself. And it is, bro. It's pure intensity. And he's just like, just. It's the kind of stuff that very, very few people could do. And when I look at that, I think, wow, this is what Guy Nema should be doing. Forget about racing. Racing's bollocks. This is cool as.

[A]

Let me have a look.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe go to about 3 minutes 30 in that first video.

[A]

8 minute wave in or.

[B]

No, go to the latest one. The latest one. That eight minute wave is all. Those New Zealand ones are good.

[A]

You want me to go to three minutes, did you say?

[B]

Yeah, something like three minutes.

[A]

No helmet?

[B]

No helmet, no safety, no nothing. He does have a phone on him because it cuts back up. And his wife Emma's. Emma Bridge is trying to film her parts and it's just like this white wall of water. It's pretty much like bakaras with a winger in it. With a. Well, not a winger, just what they got. Downwing, foiling.

[A]

Well, this is classic bridge stuff, isn't it? It's a. I don't care about what everyone else is doing. I'm gonna go off and make my own path. Tom did it. Now Guy's doing it. Yeah, okay.

[B]

Mum did it. The mum did it.

[A]

Yeah, I get it, I get it.

[B]

That's pretty sick shit. Anyway, I'll put that in the bio. You can go check that one out as well. That's a cool watch. All right, onto road to pro Japan.

[A]

Yeah, go and watch it. All right, thank you to us as always. We'll see you in the next one. Goodbye.