Cohan Joins Red Bull | Can Hugo Rule WOO | The Megapod

Summary

Kitesurf365: The Megapod

Episode: Cohan Joins Red Bull | Can Hugo Rule WOO

Hosts: Adrian Kerr (A), Colin Colin Carroll (B)
Date: September 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into two main stories making waves in the kiteboarding world:

1. Cohan van Dijk’s signing with Red Bull Netherlands – The hosts break down what this means for Red Bull, Cohan, and the evolving branding approach in kiteboarding.
2. Hugo Wigglesworth’s dominance in Hydrofoil Big Air and the upcoming WOO Worlds – Includes a look at Hugo’s unique mentality, technical chat about gear, playful banter, and a segment on Woo history and the upcoming competition.

The episode is thick with inside jokes, irreverent commentary, and sharp takes, but brings core insight into the competitive and cultural landscape of the sport.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Red Bull Signs Cohan van Dijk (00:54–08:42)

• Big News for Big Air:
  Adrian and Colin celebrate Cohan’s addition to the Red Bull team, seeing it as a long-overdue move.

  • Adrian (01:14): “It’s fitting, isn’t it? It’s about time that Red Bull Netherlands gave it to one of these hotshots and...picked the right one.”

• Red Bull’s Athlete Selection:
  The hosts debate how Red Bull makes its athlete choices and whether local agents or nepotism have influenced past decisions. Both agree this time, they got it right.

  • Colin (01:31): “Red Bull seem to be getting it right...they’re freshening things up.”
  • Adrian (01:37): “You know, they get it wrong all the time...but in this instance, they got it nail on the head.”

• Trend Back to ‘Rockstar’ Athletes:
  The recent signing of athletes like Andrea and Finn reflects a return to bold, edgy personalities, versus safe, clean-cut images.

  • Colin (07:06): “It’s a sign that Red Bull are taking Big Air really seriously...they’re rock stars, basically.”
  • Adrian (08:33): “They’re getting back to the extreme stuff when it comes to Red Bull.”

Cohan van Dijk Joins the Call (02:54–07:03)

• Surprise Hat Ceremony:
  Cohan shares how he got the Red Bull deal, the surprise of seeing Andrea at the ceremony, and his excitement.

  • Cohan (03:19): “Yeah. I’m also super stoked, man. Like, it’s a milestone, but definitely just the start, you know.”

• The Red Bull Van?
  Colin jokingly asks if Cohan will get a Red Bull sticker for his van. Cohan nixes it, citing the van’s rustiness.

  • Cohan (06:32): “I don’t want to, you know, link Red Bull to rusty old van.”

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2. Hugo Wigglesworth, Hydrofoil Big Air, and WOO Worlds (09:30–18:22)

• Hydrofoil Big Air from Silt – Hugo Dominates:
  Colin recaps the event, highlighting Hugo’s gear advantage and confidence.

  • Colin (10:05): “Hugo Wigglesworth...He made the Kasatis look like, like round two big air riders, you know. He was just all over the place.”

• The Confident Champion:
  Colin shares Hugo’s unshakable self-belief in interviews.

  • Colin (10:40): “Not Hugo, he just...said, ‘I’m gonna win’. And that was it.”
  • Colin (11:01): “Hugo’s mental game...10 minutes of his heat playing Candy Crush, you know, not care in the world.”

• Gear Spotlight – The Sonic 5:
  Benny Bölli is teased as a future guest to talk about the Fly Surfer Sonic 5, which is making an impact on event results.

  • Hugo (12:32): “I was using the 15 and 12 meter new Sonic 5s... gave me a big advantage over the other riders.”
  • Colin (13:27): “He was scoring sevens and eights. Most people were getting threes and fours.”

• The Future of Hydrofoil Big Air:
  Colin sees promise in the discipline, praising its broad wind range and growing legitimacy.

  • Colin (14:21): “I really think there’s some legs in this hydrofoil big air...wind ranges massive.”

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3. WOO Worlds Trivia & Upcoming Competition (21:19–27:57)

• WOO History Quiz:
  Adrian quizzes Colin on historic WOO records for jump height. The segment is lighthearted but informative.

  • Adrian (21:19): “Who was the first person on WOO to break 20 meters? ...It was done in 2015.”
  • Adrian (22:34): “First person to break 35 meters...January 2023.”
  • **Colin ultimately gets about half right, leading to classic banter.

• Preview: WOO Worlds 2025
  Biggest prizes to date are announced, with over $100K in gear and cash, and the competition to run September 13–October 12.

  • Adrian (23:57 & 29:38): “Kicks off on Saturday the 13th of September... four week competition.”

• Hugo Tipped as a Threat:
  Hosts believe Hugo could sweep multiple disciplines, especially with his gear for the “most distance in one hour” contest.

• Brand Rivalry for Supremacy:
  Pits Core vs. Fly Surfer (ERA 2 vs. Sonic 5) as the two brands to watch.

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4. Kiteboarding Community Banter & Inside Jokes (16:09–29:38)

• On Jetto and Steezy Pete:
  Playful mockery about Jetto’s fearlessness and Pete’s methodical teaching approach. The dynamic between extreme risk and safety is explored for comedic effect.

  • Colin (19:36): “Steezy Pete is a qualified instructor and he is a rocket scientist. Well, he could be if you wanted. That’s why him and Jetto are such a good combo.”

• Audience Feedback & Memes:
  References to emails and social media comments on recent stunts, memes like Jetto’s “reading tattoo,” and hosts’ irreverent weekly emails.

  • Colin (27:04): “Some say...Jetto got yanked harder than your mum’s ponytail on her wedding night.”

• Fan Collaboration:
  Host teams for Woo Worlds are recruiting and competitive. Both joke about their team management skills and encourage listener participation.

  • Colin (30:22): “If you are on my team, Colin and the Shipmunks...you’ll be full to the brim with both confidence and capability.”

• Red Bull Salaries & Prestige:
  Discussion about Red Bull Big Air athletes’ status in the sponsorship pecking order.

  • Colin (08:42): “The kite surfing athletes at Red Bull must be one of the lowest paid people in that group.”

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Red Bull’s new direction:
  Colin (07:06): “It’s gone rockstar again and I’m all for it.”
• Hugo Wigglesworth’s confidence:
  Colin (10:40): “He just said, ‘I’m gonna win’. And that was it.”
• On the van sponsorship:
  Cohan (06:32): “I don’t want to...link Red Bull to rusty old van.”
• On Jetto’s teaching style:
  Colin (20:25): “Jetto’s teaching would be what you see with Jetto. Erratic, you know, dangerous at times.”
• Colin on himself:
  Colin (15:48): “I was always way better than him.” (about Hugo at age 10)
• On writing the infamous newsletter:
  Colin (27:04): “Some say...Jetto got yanked harder than your mum’s ponytail on her wedding night.”
• Colin’s final team plug:
  Colin (30:22): “If you do want to join my team, be sure to send your Woo username or handle to the Instagram account @PortraitKite.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Red Bull signs Cohan van Dijk: 01:09–08:42
• Cohan call & reactions: 02:54–07:03
• Hydrofoil Big Air & Hugo’s win: 09:30–15:17
• Gear chat & Sonic 5 discussion: 11:30–14:21
• WOO history quiz: 21:19–22:49
• WOO Worlds preview: 23:57–29:38
• Jetto & Steezy Pete banter: 16:09–20:22
• Team recruiting plugs: 30:22–31:06

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Takeaways

• Red Bull is betting on bold personalities again in kiteboarding, signaling a swing back to “rockstar” marketing.
• Hugo Wigglesworth’s rise is in full force, with unrivaled confidence and technical edge in hydrofoil Big Air.
• WOO Worlds 2025 is set to be massive, featuring a slew of prizes and keen brand rivalries.
• Signature podcast banter blends irreverence with expert insights—essential for fans following competitive kiteboarding.

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Transcript

[A]

They get it wrong all the time.

[B]

If you put him in a school exam and made him study, he would fail.

[A]

It's gone rockstar again and I'm all for it.

[B]

We'll talk about nations cup next week.

[A]

Look at the interest I'm taking in this.

[B]

I mean, if you can't wear the.

[A]

Safety gear correctly yourself, I still thrash him.

[B]

So I've got people in every continent. He's Japanese. Catastrophic equipment failure.

[A]

Going for the boogaloo double just to get the landing.

[B]

Had a couple of strings and it was extremely dangerous.

[A]

Guys, I sent the trap and it.

[B]

Is gold for Ellie Aldridge and gold for Great Britain.

[A]

Jason was.

[B]

Had no idea as well. I said, by the way, you're going to be co hosting this episode. He's like, oh, yeah. No, he was. He was. He was good, man.

[A]

Terrible. No, I don't think so.

[B]

Absolutely. You got nothing terrible.

[A]

He had a raspy voice and I didn't like the way he laughed. Sort of.

[B]

Good to have you back, man. How was your week off?

[A]

Thank you very much, Adrian. My. My week off was very pleasant, thank you. Thank you for ansing Ask. I can't even speak. Should have had another week off.

[B]

I can edit us have another go.

[A]

No, I like it when you put them in. Raw, unsching.

[B]

Hey, dude. Absolutely unbelievable news with Cohen, right? How cool is that?

[A]

It's fitting, isn't it? It's about time that Red Bull, Netherlands gave it to one of these hotshots and it's my opinion that they picked the right one.

[B]

Red Bull seem to be getting it right. I don't think they ever got it wrong, but it's like they're freshening up the. Freshening things up.

[A]

You know, they get it wrong all the time. They get it wrong quite a bit, but in this instance, they got it nail on the head.

[B]

How do they get it wrong? Answer that question. How do they get it wrong? Do they get it wrong because they've got local agents pitching them the wrong person? Is there some nepotism involved in this, you think, at any stage?

[A]

Yeah, both of those things.

[B]

How often does it happen? I'm going to take these names out, by the way. I'm just going to bleep them. This is fun. I like this. I think with the signing of Andrea, with Finn and, you know, now with Cohen, I think in the big ear space, I mean, those are great riders. I'm actually really excited about this because when Cohen has been given opportunities, he's really raised his game. Right. If you think back to The Porsche golden ticket, actually. Kind of lucky to get through that, actually. We were there. There was no live stream of it. He didn't remember. He went unhooked right at the very end and crashed and everyone thought he might have been out, but he took that opportunity, went on to the semi finals when he signed with North. The next event was the big Air Kitely Cape Town. He rose to the occasion winning that. So let's see what Rebel does. You know, if you look at those things, he's. He's done something pretty cool after. So, yeah, I'm expecting good things from Cohen this year. Hey, how cool was that, the hat giving ceremony with Andrea?

[A]

Yeah, it was sick, wasn't it? Should we, should we bring in Cohen here? I rang him a couple days ago and this is what it sounded like.

[C]

How are you?

[A]

I'm fine. Probably not as good as you are.

[C]

Maybe not at the moment. No, quite. I'm on quite a high still.

[A]

Have you got it on your head right now?

[C]

No, the hat. Yes, the cap.

[A]

Mate, congrats. Well done.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Happy for you.

[C]

Yeah. I'm also super stoked, man. Like, it's a milestone, but definitely just the start, you know.

[A]

And did you have any idea Andrea was there? Like, was that kind of set up and you'd already said hi before or was that legit?

[C]

Well, obviously, obviously I've spoken to Red Bull in advance about, you know, working together and what, what, what they, they said, like, hey, everything is still on thin, thin strings, so don't get too excited. You know, we still got a lot to do. Like, I was assured it was going to happen, but if, if it was going to happen between a week or, or a month or half a year, I didn't know. So they asked me to join the F1 and he said, well, I just got a ticket left over because someone can't come. So I thought about inviting you. So first I didn't really think anything of it. Right. I didn't expect that to happen. Obviously you hope it happens, but I, I've put it out of my head just to, like, not get upset if it doesn't happen. And then while going up, up in the building, I'm walking in front and I'm like, why, why am I walking in front? You know, I'm not even an athlete. Why let me walk in front? So there was already suspicion. And then Andrea comes around the corner. I'm like, ah, there you go. So, no, he came, he came as a surprise. But when, when I saw him, I, I obviously Knew Epic.

[A]

He was excited. You could tell that he was real excited and like genuinely pleased for you as well.

[C]

He flew in for the day. He flew in for the freaking day just to give me that helmet.

[A]

Perfect.

[C]

Now that's an absolute legend to me.

[A]

So is it true that Red Bull will be financing Steezy Pete's Road to S Loop?

[C]

Yeah, I've heard rumors. You know, I think we can make anything happen, right?

[A]

No, I don't think we can make a mess loop. I don't think. I actually think that is impossible. Doesn't matter how much Red Red Ball you give him.

[C]

A double loop.

[A]

Even that. I don't think so.

[C]

I mean, Jetta had all the time, so.

[A]

And what are you up to?

[C]

Also to get him to say yes to the idea is probably, you know, I don't think he wants to go through the same thing again.

[A]

Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. What are you up to then for the next few weeks? Are you in Holland or you moving.

[C]

In Holland now and tomorrow and then Egypt Guide Festival and then I'm back on the 15th, I think. And then I saw some wind reefer. If it stays. I haven't checked yet, but.

[A]

And what's happening with the van then? Will there be a Red Bull sticker on the van?

[C]

Yeah, that's a good question. I think maybe on my car, but not on the van because this thing is so rusty. I don't want to, you know, link Red Bull to rusty old van.

[A]

What's the car? I can't believe you've got a car. What is it?

[C]

No. In Cape Town, right?

[A]

Oh, of course, of course.

[C]

My Monster Trust.

[A]

Yeah. My baby sick.

[C]

That one would look stunning in the Rebel in a little Rebel wrap.

[A]

It would. It would look. It would be unbelievable.

[C]

All right, Sounds good, Jai.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You enjoy the rest of your afternoon and a bit. See now I think it's a sign that Red Bull are taking Big Air really seriously. If you look at the signings, as you said earlier, Andrea, old mate and old mate, they're. They are bigger. I mean, Finn does freestyle for sure, but he's going to be a star in. In Big Air. He is the next kind of trap. If you look at Cohen as well, I think it's sort of a return and Andrea, but both of them actually it's a return to like the Red Bull signings of old. It's like they've. They're rock stars, basically. Whereas in my opinion in recent years Red Bull's been signing safer, more squeaky clean Athletes, whereas these guys, what Cohen even looks like Kurt Cobain. And Andrea is totally wild in a good way. And I think it's similar to the athletes they sign in skate. And I think that's epic. I think it's the right thing. It's the right decision.

[B]

You're right. In the past it was always safe, clean cut. They wanted a certain look, they wanted this. But I kind of feel like they're getting away from that. They're getting back to the extreme stuff when it comes to Red Bull.

[A]

I don't know why. I'm not sure why. I don't know the internal politics of it all. But yeah, it's gone rockstar again and I'm all for it.

[B]

I love when you ask Cohen. Hey, you gonna put that Red Bull sticker on the van? It's like, I don't want to say associate Red Bull to this old rusty van. I mean, let's be fair. The kite surfing athletes at Red Bull must be one of the lowest paid people in that group. When it comes to Red Bull salary hierarchy, kiteboarding's gotta be at the very bottom.

[A]

I don't know though. King of the Air is a really big event for Red Bull. They think it's that they see a lot of importance of it. It's a chance for them to be, you know, really impactful in a sport. So I don't know. I have no idea. I wouldn't like to say. Honestly, Adrian, I'm not the sort of journalist that just likes to spew shit out of his arse onto the Internet. I like data backed answers. As of this week.

[B]

Colin, did you open up your laptop or your phone at all on your, on your week off and watch any of the Hydrofoil Big Air from Silt?

[A]

Of course I did not watch the Hydrofoil Big Air from Silt. I doubt anyone did. Did anyone?

[B]

It was actually awesome. Our boy, Hugo Wigglesworth.

[A]

No, no, no. Did anyone actually watch it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Apart from you, mate.

[B]

There was me, there was Tom Cord, who was the commentator. There was Kite Goofy, he was on the chat. There was about eight of us watching. No, no, there was, there was a decent number and mate, I'm telling you now, it was actually really good.

[A]

Who won?

[B]

Hugo Wigglesworth.

[A]

Hugi Woogie, mate.

[B]

He whipped them.

[C]

He.

[B]

He made the Kasatis look like, like round two big air riders, you know. He was just all over the place. He was. Yeah, it was, it was kind of incredible. I mean, really had the right gear, you know. I mean, he really was, you know, on the right gear for the. For the situation. But leading into that event, funny story, you know, the GK are stepping up their media game. They had the story. They had Finn and. And Hugo standing next to each other and the lady was like, who's going to win this? You know, and most people in that situation say, oh, look, we hope get the win. You know, it's going to be, you know, great results. You know, we're really looking forward to everyone doing their best, mate. Not Hugo, he just. He just. He just said, I'm gonna win. And that was it. And then Fin's like, no, I'm not.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

No, you're not. I'm gonna win. That was it. That was in the conversation. He literally said, I am. And then just basically Mike dropped and walked off. I mean, that's the confidence of this.

[A]

I want to hear this. I can't put it in now.

[B]

I can't find it.

[A]

What do you mean you can't find it?

[B]

It was on a story. It's disappeared. I'm looking for. I'm looking. I am. If I can find it, I'll put it in right now. But in saying that, you know, I was speaking to Raleigh, who did some of the interviews for us from the SBI event, and he was also speaking to Hugo, and Hugo told him, I'm gonna win next week, don't worry about it. And we're just so confident. And I think that goes back to what you and I have been speaking about, you know, Hugo's mental game. Jason spoke about it the week before on the podcast at the Lords of Tram event. Everyone's freaking out. Hu sitting in the 10 minutes of his heat playing Candy Crush, you know, not care in the world. So Hugo is turning into a serious operator when it comes to the sport. I would. I'm going to say he would have beat Charles Braudel if Charles was there riding. I think the gear combination he had with that new Sonic 5 was just stealing candy from a baby. Yeah, the card. He was riding, the new one. Yeah, it comes out. Comes out middle of this month, but I think it's. Everyone's sort of seen it. So we can talk about a little bit more, actually. Let's get Benny Bolly in a few weeks on the podcast to talk about that Sonic 5, because it is making huge waves.

[A]

Yeah, everyone's been. Yeah, that was the Fly Surfer lot, basically. So we're walking back from dinner, the Fly Surfer lot coming the opposite way down the street, grinning like split melons, and we're like, what's wrong with you guys? Like, have you just done laughing gas or something? And they're like, we can't say, we can't say. And we're like, okay, don't say then. Fine. And they're like, no, we want to say.

[B]

We want to say. Ask us about it. Here's you go talking about the wind and silt.

[D]

Yeah. Hi, Adrian. Super stoked to take the win last week. And silt at the hydrofall. Big air conditions were pretty light, so I was using the 15 and 12 meter new sonic fives. Yeah, absolutely loving the Kite 10 for sure. Gave me a big advantage over the other riders, quite simply. I was just getting a little bit more height, more hang time, able to put more rotations into my jumps. And for the next month I'll probably be mostly training on the twin tip just for the upcoming Holdaway and Megaloop. Hopefully we get some big storms in Europe and those events can run. But yeah, really looking forward to the second stop of the hydrofoil in Abu Dhabi. Presume the conditions are going to be quite similar. Light wins. So on the Song five again and yeah, my goal there will be obviously to win and hopefully get that world title. Would be pretty stoked to get that.

[B]

I mean, when you're saying a little bit higher and a little bit more rotation, I mean, he was scoring sevens and eights. Most people were getting threes and fours. I mean, it's kind of crazy. I think he was just. It was so. I mean, the Cassadi buys the boys riding 12 meter lei kites. He was riding 15 meter foil kites. I mean, there was a few of them. Robbie James is also on a foil kite. He got fifth. Finn Fugal was on a four kite. He got second. So there were.

[A]

What was Finn Finon?

[B]

They're all on fly surface. Pretty much everyone's on. I don't know what year. Those probably weren't the same years that that.

[A]

Look at the interest. Look at the interest I'm taking in this. It's pretty special, really. I mean, me taking interest is. But I mean, me taking interest is special, not the, the event sounds, you know, lackluster, but it was 14 knots. Yeah, well, I'm sure this is why I don't tune in. I don't want to, I don't want to see it. I barely want to hear about it.

[B]

But given the conditions, it was pretty, pretty, pretty impressive. And tell you what, I actually think that there's some legs in this hydrophobic air. I really do. I mean, it just made the Wind ranges massive. Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? You're talking about vents that can run from 14 knots. 14 knots to 40 knots. It's the biggest win range in the sport.

[A]

Okay, I've actually had. This is quite enough on this particular topic, I think. Good on Hugo. He's sort of like this. He's like a sassy Oscar Piastri. Isn't he just a weapon. And he's not as boring as Oscar Piastri.

[B]

It's close.

[A]

I love it. I love his sass. It's so good. You're gonna win. Yep. No, but he knows. He knows that saying that is funny as well.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's not just. It's not just pure arrogance. It's not that at all. He knows. It's hilarious.

[B]

He's a kid that we've known about for many years, right. And we've been waiting for him to burst onto the scene.

[A]

I was kiting with him when he was 10, I taught. I'm the reason he's here, where he is today, asking, oh, it was you, is it?

[B]

I thought it was Mark. I thought it was Mark. Was you, yeah. I mean, did you see or predict Hugo to come onto the scene like this from what you saw 10 years ago?

[A]

I was always way better than him.

[B]

At what stage? When he was 10 to 11? Yeah, exactly those four years. And he's got a younger brother as well who's, you know, a little in his own right, you know, Toby, that waste.

[A]

Better than you.

[B]

Better than us. You reckon?

[A]

The dad. The dad's the most hopeless of them all.

[B]

Luke Legend.

[A]

I still thrash. I still thrash him. Give him the thrashing of a lifetime.

[B]

In what? In which, in which discipline? Which discipline?

[A]

Well, just any, really. Any. I put my, my foil to hydrofoil.

[B]

Big ear.

[A]

I've got a hydrofoil. Never jumped it, but I could.

[B]

You need to get some straps on that board. You can't just do big air with one. One foot, one front.

[A]

I do it in boots.

[B]

Mate. I actually asked Jason about that last week. We were talking about.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I said, why don't people use boots for. For the woo?

[A]

Because they're closed minded and not very imaginative.

[B]

You think, you think Ronix is going to see a distinct rise in sales after that comment?

[A]

No, because they're all closed minded, not very imaginative.

[B]

I was going to try it.

[A]

Yeah. They're not stupid enough to do it. Jetto. Maybe we could send a pair of boots out to Jetto. He's already got boots. We can just tell him strap Them on.

[B]

The irony with Jetto's boots is one's a different brand. Each. Each one's a different brand. One's a left foot from Mystic One.

[A]

They're two left feet. I believe we've been having some messages from people regarding Jetto. What have they been saying?

[B]

Oh, we had a lot of people concerned for Jetto, concern for what we've done to him. There was some people who were not happy with the situations we put Jitto in. But I can assure everyone out there that Jetto is fine and he loves it.

[A]

Which bit? The. The. When the baboon got in his car.

[B]

The. No, the loop. Everyone's the baboon. No one cares. Everyone's more.

[A]

By the way, as if he's saying, you know, you and Jason were all confused about him being called baboo or something. He's saying baboon. He's saying, if the baboon can get in the car, he can I do it.

[B]

Oh, I thought he was calling Jason, like a sign of like. Like, you know, I think Babu in Hindi is like teacher or. Or, you know, leader or someone.

[A]

Why would he be speaking? Why would he be speaking?

[B]

He's Asian. Maybe he's just changed continents. I mean, I don't know Japanese. I know, but it's still Asia. India's Asia.

[A]

I know it is.

[B]

I know it is. But we're both white parts of the world.

[A]

He's a long way from being.

[B]

He's.

[A]

He doesn't know a word of Hindi. You know what Hinduism is?

[B]

I thought you were saying babu. I didn't realize. Now that makes a lot more sense.

[A]

Babu, I know you thought that, and I think it's you being honestly stupid in a public forum once again on this one episode. Crazy. Crazy. I'm opening. I'm looking forward to the third instance.

[B]

Should we talk more worlds?

[A]

He's got up after that comment. I don't know what he's doing, perhaps stroking a cat or having a quick breather. But the correspondence we've had is people thinking that Jetto possibly lacks the bit in his brain where he doesn't. Doesn't maybe get adrenaline or doesn't get. Doesn't process fear normally. And I would say he absolutely is lacking in that.

[B]

Absolutely. And he's also an idiot. And he's. I mean, he's. I mean, I think he's probably a little bit slow, let's put it that way. If you put him in a school exam and made him study, he would fail.

[A]

No, he passed his instructor course.

[B]

He's good, dude, it's Iko. Have you seen the state of the. Have you. Have you seen the state of Iko surfers around then? They're hardly the sort of, you know, the masters of education. There's people who couldn't do anything thought, I'm going to teach Kai. They're not rocket scientists.

[A]

Steezy Pete is a qualified instructor and he is a rocket scientist. Well, he could be if you wanted. That's why him and Jetta are such a good combo. You've got someone who's so clever and then Jetto and someone who's so bad at kiteboarding. And then Jetto who's epic and someone who is so. Someone who's so scared and then someone.

[B]

Who just doesn't give a shit. Let's talk about the way those two would teach. They're both ICO instructors, okay? You'd have to think that if you had Steezy Pete as an instructor. It's going to be a very slow, methodical box ticking.

[A]

He talks to them for hours. He does so much theory. And they love it as well. They love it where Jetto.

[B]

Jetto's not talking at all. He's probably just.

[A]

He's showing.

[B]

You see, Jetto's teaching would be what you see with Jetto. Erratic, you know, dangerous at times. I mean, if you can't wear the safety gear correctly yourself.

[A]

Funny at all times.

[B]

People probably can't understand them. They'd have to. He's talking with a translator. They'd have BB talking with.

[A]

Like he's speaking to them in Japanese a lot, isn't he? He's a Japanese fight school in Japan. Oh, do you think he's teaching them in Hindu?

[B]

Oh, babu. Each week. Colin, I'm going to test you on a few things. Jason Montreal sent me through some pretty cool facts here about Woo. Right? I'm going to ask you four questions. Who was the first person on wu to break 20 meters? And you know this person? You don't need to Google them. First person on wu to break 20 meters. And it was done in 2015.

[A]

Nick Jacobson.

[B]

Nope. Give you one more guess. June 2015. And it was 20.1.

[A]

Give me a clue.

[B]

He's Dutch.

[A]

It's not AKA's Dyke. It's not Kevin. I feel like we'd know if it was Kevin.

[B]

I don't think you're going to get it. Gillian Gover from the Linesmith. He was the first person to break 20 meters. Who was the first person to break 25 meters? And this was September 2016. So almost one year later with a score of 26.7 meters, Toby Wigglesworth mate Nick Jacobson. Am I just gonna give you these answers? Okay, you're gonna get this one. You're gonna get this one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

First person to break 30 meters. And this was January 2019. This was a big step up for Wu because at that stage that was sort of like seen as the, the big barrier to breakthrough 2019. We're getting to the sort of major players now.

[A]

I don't like this one bit. Sprung this on me and I know Martin. No, I was about to say that.

[B]

Okay, well do you want to about to say the first him or Toby Wigglesworth who's the first person to break 35 meters. And this happened January 2023.

[A]

You're gonna get this one Jamie.

[B]

Good. So you went one for four. Not bad mate.

[A]

Next week I was honestly gonna do the Martin Hager one.

[B]

Okay, I'll give you 50 then.

[A]

That's and I think it probably was Toby Google's worth. So therefore three out of five pretty good. 60%. That's a pass dude.

[B]

What are you talking about two out of five? There was only four questions. It's two out of four, that's 50%. It is a pass, but it's borderline. Colin, let me give you a bit of information about the Woo Worlds because we are under two weeks out. There is over a hundred thousand US dollars in prizes featuring prizes from Ion, Core, Flyserver, North, Duotone, Levitas, Jacobsen and Elevate. There's kites, boards, foils, cash flow, all to play for this year. It kicks off on Saturday the 13th of September. It's a four week competition. The team registration closes on the 12th. So that's the very night before you haven't made a team choice or a decision. Definitely get involved in that one. You know we're speaking of Hugo before. I think Hugo is going to be a major problem this event. He could potentially bring the jump height but I think the one, the most interesting one is this most distance in one hour. And I think that Sonic 5 kite, he's going to really tap into that. I think he can push these Olympic foilers for that. You know he's in a position, it was one in New Zealand last year. He's in a position where he can, you know, maybe make multiple attempts at that one hour distance. I think Hugo, who's won multiple disciplines as a junior and as a senior over the years, he might be one of the most decorated world Winners. Yeah, I think he's going to win a lot of individual prizes this year.

[A]

Just looking down my team sheet and just, I'm just bursting with pride just at all these names. Andrea Principy still hasn't quite accepted the request, but, you know, we're in talks. We're in talks. How's your star hunting going? Have you, have you caught any big fish?

[B]

No, no, no, I didn't buy anyone, didn't talk to anyone. Just opened it up and the team's ready to go. We're, we're making a plan of attack as soon as we can get some more clarific clarification of the dates. We're, we're doing something a little bit different. You Colin? We've got some strategy we've got is in all different parts of the world. So I've got people in every continent, little attack teams, like a little SAS sort of outfit in every country so we can attack those positions.

[A]

Okay, that's the plan. Well, that does sound like a great plan. I wish you the best of luck. Really. Right. Good, good. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna come up with some questions about WOO that you're not gonna know next week as well, I think.

[B]

Okay, I've got some more for you as well. Let's talk about two of the big brands at this year's WOO Worlds, obviously. What Core and Fly Surfer. I know they're putting up a lot of prizes and big prize for their comp. I think these two brands are going to be the brands battling for WU supremacy the most. You've got the Era 2 and the Sonic. Those two kites are going to be amazing for a lot of disciplines. Obviously the ERA holds the WOO record is that Sonic can do the a lot of that distance stuff where Core have got the XR8 and the XR Pro. It's going to be really interesting to see those kites go against each other, I think. I mean it's like there at the top at the moment. Is there any other kites coming out that can challenge those two for WOO supremacy?

[A]

I just think whatever I'm on is going to be pretty hot and whatever that may be, Adrian, whether that could be exactly a wool pig kite or the original Hadlow had low Pro that Jason Van Der spy jumped 20. How did he jump 25 meters on a 13 meter Hadlow Pro? That was deflating. How did he do that?

[B]

While we're talking about Jason and the road to pro stuff, is there any other footage or any other angles that we can Post of Jetto's loop, because at the moment we've got sort of the one drone shot. Right. Is there going to be some carousels coming up?

[A]

Old mate Jason reckoned he'd got some GoPro footage of the stuff, hadn't he?

[B]

Yeah, I never saw that either after promising to send it.

[A]

Can't remember seeing that come my way either.

[B]

Wow, that would be sick to see that from the water.

[A]

Yeah, that would actually be. That would be good, eh? That would be good. You know that. That footage, which is ungraded, unmastered, 16 by 9, which is basically like. If you put that on Instagram, it's basically suicide because it's not in real format. That has got 1800 likes.

[B]

Sh.

[A]

Such is the power of the Yank. Some say, Adrian, that Jetto got yanked harder than your mum's ponytail on her wedding night. That was the line I put in the email that went out. Because it's very boring writing these emails. Okay? I sit there, just the blank page before me, very intimidating, and I am like, yeah, hello, everyone. And then just the boredom rises and rises and rises until I think, right, let's put something in here that's gonna amuse me for a bit. And that was what came out. And we've had some. Some people have come to. Some people have come back to us saying that was deeply offensive. And other people have come back to us saying, what did someone say that email deserves a medal or something?

[B]

Yeah, they loved it. They loved the email we get. And by the way, we get some people on those emails saying, oh, the grammar's not right. I mean, guys, come on.

[A]

Shit, bro. Do you know how fast we write those?

[B]

I don't care.

[A]

It's not AI. That's. That's me doing it unwillingly. I'm forced.

[B]

Someone emailed me this photo today of Jetto and it's. I've put it on our Discord. It's. It's in our Discord group. And it's. Hello, say hello to the newest member of our team, Read in. And it's Jetto with a read in tattoo on his face. I should shout at the guy's name, but I can't remember at the time, but I will credit him in a later thing. But how cool is that? That's what Jetto's tattoo would have looked like.

[A]

Yeah. He's referring, of course, to the point where Kevin asked Jetta what he's going to do and Jetto says, I could get a reading tattoo on my face.

[B]

I love the outtakes by the way those outtakes are awesome.

[A]

They're good.

[B]

Yeah. That was so good. It's just great to see Kevin, like, Kevin's like, guys, you can almost see Kevin's like, laughing with frustration. He's like, these guys are just actually crazy. But, yeah, it was. It was super cool. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Kevin's a legend. What an absolute superstar to do that and be involved in that project. And.

[A]

Yeah, and Kevin's not just. He's not just a pro rider these days. He's, like, running in a whole brand. He's probably the busiest person in kiteboarding. He's got to be up there. And there he was one. One sweaty morning in Cape Town before. No, it was after getting there. It was after. But, like, he didn't need to do any of that and he did it and he turned up and smashed it. He's so good. Kevin.

[B]

Wereworld starts September 13th through to October 12th. We're going to be bringing you a lot more information about Worlds throughout the event. So I think next week we'll probably have a bit more world stuff because we'll be on the. On the very eve of the event starting. Remember, these were Worlds. They always start off with a big bang. So make sure you got your teams. I guess general information would be make sure you know how your watch works, make sure you know how your device works, make sure you know how you can log up. I mean, these are general ideas and general tips that you should be doing so you can maximize your Woo Worlds experience. And you don't do a whole day out there and just realize that you didn't actually record any data because that's going to suck. That was pretty much like what Colin I did one year. We thought it was maximum jump height, so we did a whole day of woosting to find out. Start of the next day. Bad planning.

[A]

Bad planning that. That happened. Yeah. What I will say to that is, if you are on my team, Colin and the Shipmunks, you'll be, you know, the amount of great information you'll be getting and just great leadership you'll be experiencing will just be, you know, it was. You'll be full to the brim with both confidence and capability. So if you do want to join my team, be sure to send your Woo username or handle to the Instagram account @PortraitKite. Okay. Or you can go and join Adrian's team. Don't know what it's called. Don't know really who's in it. Don't know. Don't know if I'd do that. Don't know if I'd do it.

[B]

No begging from my side, guys. If you want to join, you're always welcome. Send me a Message on Instagram kaito365 and I'll send you the link to the the Clan as it's now shortened down to the Clan, the Wu Tang Clan. I tell you what though, Colin, when we come back next week we will talk about Nations Cup. It's a cup that we or one of the amazing titles we haven't spoken about and I think it's actually one of the premier events to win. So we'll talk about nations cup next week and some of the amazing prizes associated with that because that is super cool. Let's get on Benny Bolly in a few weeks to talk about this new Sonic 5 coming up for Fly Surfer. That'll be super interesting and yeah, I think we think we're done for the day, bro.

[A]

Thank you to us as always. We'll see you in the next one. Goodbye.