
On today's episode, we talk about the yellow light for The Red Bull Qualifier Cold Hawaii, and the first of the big team battles is completed at the WOO Worlds. WOO Trade Up: Portrait: ...
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Do you want me to give you the weather forecast?
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Kind of puts a smile on my face.
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Liam Whaley.
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I need to have some rest. I've just come off a three week trip.
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Did you just say woo record?
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It's a great victory.
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And send my love to Colin.
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It'll be absolutely awesome. For women's kiting.
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Catastrophic equipment failure.
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Going for the boogaloo double just to get the landing. Had a couple of strings and it was extremely dangerous. Guys, I sent the trap and it.
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Is gold for Ellie Aldridge and gold for Grape Britain.
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Adrian.
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It's all go.
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Oh. So Adrian is. That's forced positivity from Adrian you're hearing there. That chuckle is actually one of deep sadness because. Where are you right now, Adrian?
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I just got back to Thailand about six hours ago to tell. To be told. I've got to get on a plane and probably tomorrow and go back to Denmark. After a three week trip. I'm pretty much home for like one day, then I'm off again. But look, this is the job, you know, I love the. I love the chaos. Cold Hawaii has always been one of my favorite events and I'm excited for this.
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Cold Hawaii, baby. Just try and stop it. You can't.
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It is only a yellow light. So it is a 70, 72 hour warning and all things could change. But we want to be a bit prepared and we want to bring you guys the latest news and the latest updates for that. So let's get into that because that's the pressing thing at the moment. They're looking to run either Saturday or Sunday, which is right at the end of the window. The window ends on the 10th, so again, cutting it super fine. Do you think they're feeling the pressure of the window? Would they have called the storm if it wasn't closing soon?
A
Yeah, sorry. But yeah, cool. Do you want me to give you the weather forecast?
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Absolutely.
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Right. Guys, obviously I don't actually know anything about weather. So what we're looking at here is on Friday we have a moderate south easterly that then gives way to a heavy band of rain early Saturday morning as the wind swings to the southwest. The wind then strengthens and becomes drier and drier throughout Saturday and then also into Sunday where it peaks Sunday morning at Boatfont 8 8. Tickling 9. Tickling 9.
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This was the big storm that was hitting the UK. It looks like it spun north a bit. Hey, let me just give you an update on the fleet for cold Hawaii because there has been some changes opposed to the first fleet. Andrea Principe Charles Brodel. Clement Earl Cohen. Van Dyke. Heel Vlute. Hugo Wigglesworth. Jamie Overbeek. Jason Vanderspae. Jeremy Blando, Josh Gillett, Keem Overkirk. Liam Whaley. Lorenzo Casad.
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Liam Whaley.
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Luca Tarutti, Lucas Grumstrup, Nathan Texia, Dean Mo, Timo Boisma. The two names jump out to me, obviously. Charles Brodell and Liam Whaley. Kind of puts a smile on my face.
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Yeah, it does. I'm sat here grinning like a split melon. Adrian, I think I've used that joke probably 10 times on this podcast.
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Keep using it. It can be your signature joke.
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It's just shit. I tell you. Who's going to take an absolute battering in this competition? Norway. Norway. You should see what is hitting Norway.
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Should we make it cold? Norway shift it a few hundred k's north.
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So the thing that's hitting Denmark is going on to Norway afterwards and it is just gonna get cold savage up there. But yeah, this forecast, honestly, we've been watching it all week going like, should Adrian get on that plane? Should he not? And for a long time it looked like, yeah, go, no worries, don't stress about it. And then just overnight as we record this on Wednesday, the first really strengthened, I think on the Saturday, it looks whatever I say now is going to become irrelevant. It's changing so much. So do you know what we. I did my forecast bit at the top and that's going to be all I'm going to say on it. It looks like it's going to be windy, guys.
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So for you portrait members, you will see the pre show. As you've seen on YouTube, those are now going behind the paywall and that will be available. That will be recorded pre the event, probably from the writers meeting is the way it goes. If you want to get excited about this event, we do have the watch alongs and we'll be posting the next two videos in that over the next few days. We have the Liam Rayleigh covering the 20, 21 final. Andrea with the 22 final.
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Really?
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Enzo Casati with the 20 final. So if you want to relive those events on portrait, they will be available probably from today. Jason's probably not like hearing this because we have to tell him to post that stuff straight away. Fantasy will be back for this event. The Fantasy podcast was recorded. That might need to be updated now because that was pre the Megaloop. We sort of got thrown by the lateness of these two events. So that will be up in some format. So we've got lots of content coming out for the portrait members.
A
I got completely done on Fantasy Mega Loop. I don't even want to look, honestly, it was just like, horrible what happened to my team. Like, to put it. To put it simply, I was backing Francesca Maney and her helmet blew off her own head.
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I think the overall thing with Fantasy Colin, a lot of us picked Francesca and a lot of us picked Andrea. There was a lot of people picking Lorenzo, who did well, but everyone is still in the running for that week at Makani. That's. That's the key, you know, you can never give up. You've always got to be in the fight. But let's talk about this field. Great to see Liam back. We haven't seen him since the Lords of Tram event. We're wondering if it was a one and done. But great to see him back in this event and I. I reckon you're right. I reckon this is his push and his run to get back into King of the Air.
A
Yeah. I don't know if he's been filming or training or where he's at. Health wise. We're gonna learn all of this when we arrive in Denmark and stick a microphone under his nose. But, yeah, he was actually sick at Lords of Tram, like, proper. So, yeah, look, do I think he's really going to challenge Andrea and Lorenzo? No, but I think he could easily be a nuisance for the rest of the fleet.
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Charles Bridal, how do you think he's going to go? I think it's a tough comp for him. A lot of white water. We know he doesn't like that whitewater. You know, he told us he struggled with the aerated. You know, he's having cavitation problems in Cape Town with the broken, with the. With the waves breaking. This is and can be fairly crazy. And it looks like it's a little bit onshore as well, which might. Which might make the situation quite tough for him.
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Yeah, this is his first. Yeah. First sort of super messy event too. Like, he didn't do mega loop. King of the Air, as you said, is a bit cleaner, a bit more rhythmical with the waves and it's a bit more predictable. Whereas this is like just chaos underneath your feet. Um, yeah. At King of the Air, he was, like, judged very strangely. His scores were all over the place. Sometimes really under, sometimes over, arguably. But he left a really strong impression on everyone's mind. At King of the Air, can you remember, we were in the little Mediary bit and Aaron Hadlow was passing through whilst Charles was on and Aaron was like holy. So yeah, I am really excited to watch Charles ride and also see what gear he's on too because he's constantly tinkering. F1 have trusted him with I don't know how much budget but he goes through a lot of prototypes that he's building specifically for him because he needs a kite to ride quite differently to how the rest of the bros need it because he's on a foil which I think probably gives way more line tension but at the same time less friction. I'm gonna, but I'm gonna stop there because I think what I'm about to say will just be like physically wildly incorrect. So we'll put that to him in the, in the pre show when, when we do get there how he thinks his car needs to be different to the rest. But yeah, I'm excited for him. I'm excited for Liam. Is anyone missing from that list that should be there, do you think?
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No, but let me throw some names. I want to hear how you think they'll go. I mean let's not talk about Andre and Lorenzo because they're going to be there or thereabouts. Right, here's an interesting one. Hugo Wigglesworth didn't have the greatest run at Mega Loop. Is definitely a performer. I think he likes these conditions. What do you think?
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I think Remind me how he did.
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A megaloo knocked out by Cohen and I think this is going to be similar to A Wild Day at Muray. I, I, I think we'll see good things from him.
A
Yeah, I would say Muay, which is on the west coast of Auckland, New Zealand by the way. It's a black sand beach that is, has really strong current. It is the angriest bit of sea I've ever seen. And the unique thing about it is well one, the black sand. But two, when you stand in the shallows and look out to sea, the sea level appears to like continually rise off into the distance. Like if you look way out the back it looks like there's no way you can be standing at sea level but obviously you are. I can't really describe it. It's really strange.
B
Well, I just flew last night. I watched Interstellar. Do you remember they land on that planet and that massive waves coming. It's nothing like that but similar like that. What about, what about Jamie? I mean this is the event. 2021, Jamie burst on the scene.
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He's always done amazing here.
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Yeah, 15 year old. I think he's 15 at the time. Kind of crazy. I mean, I feel like Jamie needs a big performance. I mean, this year hasn't gone to plan, let's be honest. Seems to have slipped out of that pecking order. We know what he can do, but maybe this is the vent to Jamie to get his momentum going again.
A
Jamie got taken out by heel in Megaloop. Jamie just didn't choose to hit any kickers. I couldn't find anything that would work in the first few minutes and then the wind dropped off and he was screwed because Hill had already got some strong scores on the board. So yeah, he will want to do things differently here. It's completely different format. It'll be best of three. There might be an impression score. I don't even know. It's more in his wheelhouse because he's got a lot of variation. Whereas someone like Heel or Jason Van Der Spee or who am I thinking? Jet Bradshaw. They kind of just want to catch a lucky Gus and put the kite disgustingly low and do something just huge once in a heat. Whereas Jamie's got more range. So yeah, let's see, let's see.
B
Josh Gillette is another person that I would love to see get back to where he was. I mean, I think Josh probably won't like to hear this, but I don't think he's. We've seen him at his best since the Lords of Tram event. I think he sort of had things not go his way. You know, he had another big crash at Mega Loop.
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Two huge crashes in a row at the last two events. I mean like the Lords of Tram one was. He was hospitalized and Megalu can't have been far off it. So yeah, I think him to have a bit of a clean run should maybe be his goal.
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When I look through this list, all these guys are just putting the hand up saying I want a good performance. And I guess that's the time we live in. You know, when you live in the wake of Andrea Lorenzo, it's really tough, right? There's nothing, there's all turbulence behind those two guys. If those guys are the speedboats and you're behind them in the race, you're. You're running in their wake and that makes it tough. So all these guys are looking for something. It's really difficult. I mean, again, when I look at Hugo and I look at Luca, if the win is not quite there, are we going to see the. The debut of the 7 meter Sonic 5 in competition? They both say they're going to use it. They both say they want to use it at King of the. I think they'd probably want to try it out here. It's going to be difficult to launch, but maybe we're going to see.
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That depends how on shore is as well, because that's going to give him way more distance. Yeah, it's going to alter the judging. It's going to completely eliminate double loops for what are the other implications? It is. I just. I'm looking forward to watching them launch it as well. If it is kind of 30ish knots in that tiny space with quite a steep gradient on the beach. And.
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Yeah, the only reason I say that is that these are the King of the Air judges and this is your first chance to see where you are at. You know, like, we've had the Red Bull Megaloo, we've had all these other events. We've had these qualifying series and those are. And let's be honest, this is the biggest of the qualifying events. This is a huge event and I think that these guys are going to want to test gear. Charles will probably be in the same position to see is this feasible for me? Am I going to get scored? Because the judges, I think they give you an indication of where you are at. I mean, we're only two months out for king there, let's be honest. So these guys are going to be putting down stuff to. To test and see where they are. It's a big event to win. I know there's the golden tickets and so. And honestly, at the. The way we're going, realistically, if, even if you make the semifinal or, you know, you could pick up that golden ticket, it might go down to the highest trick because Andre is already in, Lorenzo's already in. And it's going to be difficult, you know, to. To win, but there's still opportunities to pick up that golden ticket. I think all these guys are in the running, let's be honest. It's a shame. Obviously we don't.
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No, they're not. Yeah, there's only two people that come. There's only two people can. That can win this event.
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No, I mean, all these guys are in the running for King of the Air, is what I mean, you know, but it's a shame. Obviously, we don'. Leonardo Casadi with the under 18 rule, which is a. It's a Danish rule for consumption of sports drinks that's unfortunately taken those young riders out, which is Zach Adams and stuff like that baby shark, due to a problem with his video, which is something which is probably not for a podcast, but it's just a silly mistake on his part and he'll learn. But yeah, really, really interesting fleet.
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Really interesting, sick fleet. Yeah. Missing the old, old and gold. It's missing Aaron Hadlow and Marc Jacobs, Jack. And those two are getting into King of the Air having not ridden an event all year.
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It's looking tough now, right?
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Looking tough, looking super tough. I think Marc Jacobs is first reserved for cold Hawaii, by the way.
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Believe so. I wonder if he'll travel. I mean, maybe him and Hugo will travel just in case because you never know what's going to happen.
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Oh, you think Hugo's in New Zealand?
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I think he's back in New Zealand, yeah. No, he's definitely been home. I've seen he's been been posting on the, on the WOO Worlds team there. Yeah, there's going to be a really interesting one. Will Mark and Aaron make King of the Air? Look, they've always liked star power, but now we've got the new breed of stars. That's the thing, right? You know, it's okay to say, oh, you know, these guys bring some star power, but Andre and Lorenzo, you know, these guys are carrying the sport now and they are the new faces, they're the big faces.
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Did you see Lorenzo do that lake back board off off the boat?
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I did, yeah. Yeah.
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Holy shit. It's so. It's like balando levels of steez with Lorenzo's like epic ability to rotate from nothing. Yeah, yeah. And he just looks like he's never gonna ever gonna crash that. He's just, it's so effortless to him. If you haven't seen that clip gone, Lorenzo's Instagram, it is like epic. And Reuben Lenton's behind the camera and it turns to him and he's like, that's good. Ain't nobody jumped off a boat like that. Ain't nobody done it that good. Sorry, Tom Bridge, I know yours was maybe 10 times higher and your first time in straps in 20 years, but that Lorenzo smashed it.
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What do you think Lorenzo would have done off the top of that massive virgin boat?
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I reckon he might have done like a quadruple tornado, 16 rotations.
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Baptist Bordollis told us it's going to ride off there. He's going to jump from the pool. He said what Baptiste Bordollis said he wanted to ride it and jump from the pool. I don't think that's actually possible, but I mean, I thought that was pretty funny when he told me.
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On top of the virgin.
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Yeah, he's gonna tack back and Forward in the pool and jump from the pool over the side.
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He was joking.
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I think he was serious.
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Hang on. So he reckons. So hang on. He looked at what Tom did and said, nah, I would have done it.
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I would have done it different maybe.
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What the. No, you wouldn't have, Baptiste, bro. You wouldn't have. Sorry, but you just wouldn't have. Okay, moving on, moving on.
B
I mean, if you are a portrait member, if you watch the fantasy podcast, Jason, I deep dive into those riders a lot more for picking fantasy. And yeah, right now Colin and I are operating on about 1% battery. So that might be a chance for you to go and look at that in deep dive. But Interestingly, after the 2022 event, was it that Aaron went out and broke the record and took the title on the last day of the Worlds or something like that. He was jumping after the competition.
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Yeah, I remember it well. Adrian on an 8 meter duotone dice, I believe.
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Crazy. And by the way, if you watch, if you go back and watch those watch alongs, I think on Lorenzo is riding a Dice in that 2020 final and Andrea was riding the Evo. First time I'd ever tried the Evo. So it's very interesting. And riding five meter kites, it's Andrea's like so crazy that I'm riding a 5 meter kite in this. And I remember at the time a lot of people were like, oh, this is rubbish, they're on 5 meter kites. And I said, what kite would you be riding now? He said, oh, an 8 for sure. So it's interesting that those guys took that abuse. And you know, Lorenzo and I have spoken about that in our as well where they heard all the noise about, oh, they're just like the, the loops are too high, the kites are too small and those guys have, I guess matured and basically adapted their riding and shove it in the face of those guys who were saying that, yeah, now.
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Doing it better than anyone's ever done it. So, yeah, so what Adrian's referring to there is the series, the Watch along series where Adrian sits with the winners of a variety of events, this one being called Hawaii. And yeah, you sit with Adrian, Andrea as they re watch it and Liam too, and Lorenzo. Which one does Lorenzo watch back? King of the air.
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Lorenzo's the. No, Lorenzo's the 24 final. Andre is the 22 final and Liam's the 21 final. All, all three of them back to back. Unfortunately, there's no footage of the 2020 final which would, which, which was Won by Kevin back in the day. But it was quite a different event there at that event. It was a very much a, hey, let's give some you guys a chance and let's bring in some star power to, to, to do it that way. And then the sort of event had changed quite quickly after that. It's actually interesting to see the dynamic of how Cold Hawaii's changes actually put that whole region on the map really because that was a place that we never really thought was a kite surfing destination. And since then Cold Hawaii has put Denmark as a legitimate kite surfing destination there. I mean this event has really brought a lot of ice the area. The Woo world record has been broken there by Core. I know that a lot of boys like to storm chase there. SpaceX were there a few weeks ago. So yeah, it is becoming a legit kite surfing destination. If you haven't been up there, it's absolutely beautiful, I mean incredibly beautiful, the coastline up there and you don't have to go in these crazy storms to get good conditions. So definitely, if you have an opportunity, definitely go check that place out.
A
There's flat water nearby too. Like within a 20 minute drive of that spot, there's flat water. I remember riding there with Luca Ceruti. I don't know why we. I was just me and him, I don't know what we were doing or what was happening at that time, but rode some epic flat water there too.
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The hot dogs, there's a triple there I think. Was it?
A
Oh yeah. True, true. The hot dogs are sick. There's loads of chocolate milk everywhere. Like every fuel station you go to, there's epic chocolate milk. What else is sick about Denmark? It's very like cozy. It's cozy. It's a nice place to be at this time of year. Honestly. If you've got a thick wetsuit, just get involved. It's where Wacker is world class kite academy is right now.
B
I think all this has happened on the back of this event. I mean that's really cool. I mean it's actually crazy. That's a surfing community. I mean it's in the name, right? Cold Hawaii. But if you go there, you're outside like the little buzz. You see no rows of surfboards and it's like they love this, they just love surfing up there. So yeah, it's definitely a place that you should go visit.
A
We're commentating. Adrian.
B
We are commentating. I need to have some rest. I've just come off a three week trip, a big flight and to get back On a plane. Colin, my mind is going to explode, so I need to rest, I need to recover. But I'll be ready. Don't worry. I'll be there. If not in spirit, in body jerk.
A
And you'll be able to remember all their names.
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I'm. It's something I've been thinking about.
A
Man in the blue bib. Wow, that was a great jump. Always crashed. That's one thing I'm hoping to not do so much this time. To be like, whoa, that's a sick one. Oh, it's a quadruple doobie board off.
B
Tic Tac.
A
Oh, it's amazing. Oh, no. He crashed it last second. Oh, sorry.
B
But I think that's, I think that's part of the excitement, right? I mean, you know, if everyone's watching and, you know, the Red Bull team up there do such a great job with the video. I think it's, you know, they put on one of the better products in kiteboarding.
A
It's the best one. No, no. And I'm not saying that just because it's with us. Coffee, by the way. That is not something I would do. Yeah, the camera angles, the production is sick. It's actually got like professional geezers there. Like, they're so professional, it's ridiculous. Me and Asian turn up in this little hut and we put a. We put our headsets on, get on with it. And people bring us cake and tell us what to say in our ears. It's. It's awesome.
B
It was so toasty in there, wearing our T shirts. And outside people are dressed like they're going to the North Pole. What I liked about, about the camera angles, that sometimes they would zoom in so tight. I mean, you could see Andre gritting as he was like growing. He was like. It was like body dragon. I could see him chewing his teeth. So, yeah, that was really cool. But I, I mean, I like to tell the stories of kite boarding. We don't necessarily have to say the tricks if people can see. So we want to try and bring, you know, more storytelling around the commentary. And if you, if you liked what you saw last year, you're going to get more of that. So if you didn't like it, tough. Just going to have to listen to the sound off.
A
Sorry, mate. Mute it.
B
Colin. Let's. Let's go talk Woo Worlds.
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Let's go.
B
Wuang and the Ship Banks team. Total height. It's one nil victory. It's a great victory. But I tell you what, let's hear from Dan Irman Bushard who carried the team?
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Dan.
B
We're gonna hear from him. Here's Dan now.
C
Hey, Adrian.
B
Yeah.
C
So the plan was to try and find some wind in the States, but there wasn't any. I already had a trip planned to come to Brazil, and the wife gave me the go ahead to come early. The wind cooperated enough to give me six to seven hours a day on the water trying to get, like, two jumps a minute. Got to be happy with the results. Thanks to the teammates. Helped push us into the top three. Cheers and send my love to Colin.
A
Oh, God.
B
But, dude, you still got team total distance to come. I know my team's in recovery.
A
Don't give me. Don't, don't. I don't want your. Don't encourage me.
B
Fantastically.
A
I don't want to hear. I don't want your sympathy. I don't want. Just stop it. You should see what he looks like right now. He's got this, like, annoying little grin under his stupid mustache.
B
I was thinking about shaving the mustache off today. I looked at myself on the. In the airplane mirror, and I looked at myself. Maybe it's time to lose a mustache. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll have a clean lip.
A
For the commentary team, you better just quickly go through what's been happening, but don't. Just do it with grace, okay? Because I know you're not gonna. I know you're not gonna. Just do it nicely.
B
Here are the final results for team. Total height. In first place.
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Stop smiling. Do it without smiling.
B
Led by Timo Martin with a massive effort of 17.4 kilometers, followed by Joris Josie, 17.4. It's crazy, right? I mean, those. What?
A
The whole team. The whole team. 17.4.
B
No, that was just his. I mean, Colin, that was just him. Height. Your total height. 12.9 kilometers. Actually, Timo beat you there. In second place.
A
Holy.
B
My beloved Wu Tang Clan. But listen to this. Led by Dan the iron man Bouchard, 17.5km. He actually beat Timo Martin, which is kind of crazy.
A
Oh, my God. Really? Timo's got to be fuming with that.
B
He will be flaming. And then we had Aya. I don't know who this next person is. Cassandra, Earth of the surfer. Filling up there for. She's in your team. You don't even know who it is. It's if at F at, then peach can.
A
Peach. Peach what?
B
It's a peach. A peach emo. It's f at Peach emoji can. And then an airplane.
A
F at peach emoji. Can airplane.
B
Yeah. How am I supposed to work that out?
A
It's not the most. It hasn't really got a good ring to it, is it?
B
And then in 30, Team Elevate, who has been a really, really ferocious team over the years, actually Elevate guys sent me a message. Kaima Halisti, Michael Kent. I heard from Kent actually was making excuses for having a family. Yup. And nil. So yeah, amazing effort all around.
A
I have a family.
B
Seriously big recovery needs to be done from those teams before team Total Distance, which is going to be interesting because you can use foils in that one. So it's going to be interesting to see how the teams approach that. And let's talk about another amazing performance. Leading the ladies is Sue K. Mate, this is a crazy story. Let's hear from sue now. Congratulations. 25.2. Unbelievable.
D
It is, it's. I mean I had an aim of jumping half my height in, I mean half my age in meters last year when I was 48. So it was 24 meters and I didn't make it to 24 meters. So the fact that I'm sitting at 25 meters at 49, I'm just absolutely stoked. It's, it's been a, it's been a target for a while.
B
First in the Woo Worlds at the moment on the ladies, but also third overall, which I think is also super cool. Let's talk about where you were riding. Were you at Dolphin Beach?
D
Yes, I was. I was. So it was actually, it's leading into the Woo Worlds like the first week there was, there was one day of riding the day before and then I think on the first day we rode at Dolphin beach and then the wind disappeared and came back from the northwest and that was a comic session which wasn't great. But that first day at Dolphin was indicator of what the wind was going to be like. It's that early season wind that was like slightly gusty up and down, but that means that the water was smooth and the kickers were great. So I was on an 11 meter then. And then when the wind came in on Wednesday, which was Heritage Day in South Africa, we, it was a holiday so there were a bunch of people out early and then they went off to go do their brides and things at lunchtime. So the place cleared out a bit and I got out on my 8 meter and was the first 8 meter real 8 meter boosting day that I had like since, since the start of the world actually since the kite was signed off. Because this is A new production Alpha kite and was signed off in, in May and it was released in September. So it's perfect timing. And yeah, so that was on the Wednesday through the middle of the day. I was on the water kiting. I'd actually been on the beach working and then DK was on the water kiting and then I called him off the water to go to pack up some kites and while he was off the water packing the kites up I had lots of space, it wasn't crowded, the wind was up and down. But I was lucky to be on the water when the, when the over 30 knot gusts were coming through and I got three banger jumps. So there was, I got a 25.1 and 19 and a 25.2 which was just absolutely blew me away.
B
So I mean you knew they were big, right?
D
Yeah they were because I mean it was just the location of the takeoff was in the, in the flats so I could get decent speed up towards the, towards the kickers which again because the wind was variable and slightly offshore on occasion it meant that there wasn't that chop and for me I always love like to be able to know what my landing is going to be like before I take off and no chop is what I love and so no chop so you can get a little bit of speed those short sharp kickers well up to shoulder high. So that was perfect. And then actually on the 25.2 there was a little bit of a secondary lift on the, on the jump. So that was yeah it, it was a bit hit and miss. Okay. Because the wind was a little bit up and down and bit sketch but it on, on these two jumps it was just epic. And the fact that there was flat water to land and well not choppy water to land and, and nobody downwind just meant that I was confident enough.
B
On those takeoffs for people listening. This is a kite that you've designed right? I mean that, that must be pretty cool right to. To do that on a kite you've designed and give you confidence in all this work you've put in.
D
Yeah, it's been, I mean the last two worlds I've been on prototypes of this kite and it just hasn't quite been there. And then yeah to be able on this kite which was actually the brief of this kite was yes it has to be a modern big air kite but it's more importantly it has to be able to set woo PBS for your average middle aged kiter and that's me. So I'm like there we go, I got a PV on it. So Tick design reef mate. So very, very stoked, stoked on that. But yeah, the, the kite has been a, a long time in the making and, and we've had testers like from grommies through to old men, from beginners, well intermediate riders through to like really advanced 50 plus year olds riding it. So it's been a, it's been a quite a mixed bag of feedback but it's definitely hit the mark with the, with the boosting.
B
And the Alpha is a 5 strut kite.
D
This Alpha V4 is a 5 strut big air kite. We've added additional leading edge attachments so it's an eight point leading edge. So it's quite stable because it's got a wide, wide ish arc. So we, we wanted to make sure that it stays stable in the gusty wind so that you can stay confident it's not going to misbehave while you, while you're up there. And so that's 8.0, 8 point bridle, which is, yeah, really, really nice when the wind is the way it was, which was a little bit came in and then disappeared and then came in. So I think the gust differential on the day was up to 15 knot gust differentials on, on the dolphin wind meter. So yeah, so that was. And it, and it handled it, it handled it beautifully.
B
Who was happier, you or dk?
D
I think the community around me. It was one of those, it was actually quite, quite a funny story because we, we were at the beach doing that. So that was the, the middle of the day session. I'd been working a little bit in the morning on the beach and then Dave was kiting and then we kind of swapped over. When I came in from that session, it, the jumps were in the middle of the session and I thought they were big, but then I kept kiting hoping for another gust that I could hit and it didn't happen. When I came in from the beach, someone wanted to try my kite. So I stopped and I passed the kite over and I chatted to him. So I didn't get to go download my woo score then. And then all the pros arrived for the afternoon session. So they arrived and they were out for 10 minutes. Julian got a 23 meter jump and then the wind backed off. But I was, I went out then as well and I could only get 15.9 because the wind wasn't as strong or as gusty. So I was really lucky to be out when that, when that wind Came through in the middle of the day. And yeah, it was. It was being back at the beach loading the. The Woo. Normally I just take it off the. Well, DK takes it off the board and he says, load it. I said, oh, no, I'll load it when I get home. I loaded this in the dolphin car park, which is not. Not often that I do that.
B
But it was cool that you did. Right, because you had everyone there to celebrate. And I mean, I got about a thousand texts from dk, by the way, and everyone else.
D
Yeah, it was. I mean, literally when I looked at it, I was like, downloading the score and DK and Lanrell was there as well, and they said, oh, how'd you go? I said, I'm not sure because I was looking at the screen and I wasn't quite sure that I was reading it correctly. I was like, have I had a beer already? But yeah, then I showed them and I was like, yep, okay, let's load it. And then Arlen from Wu was straight onto it and. And checking it out and getting the guys to check it out. So that was very interesting as well. Going through that.
B
I think having those three other jumps around, it sort of, you know, gives it some more, you know, like that. That's what they look for, right? Other jumps as well in that. In that range.
D
Yeah.
B
Let's talk about the Woo Worlds a little bit. CT air, obviously, at the moment. Fourth and nation in the nations in the Nations Cup. Fourth in the Nations Cup. Look, you've got a great junior score. You got. Got a great woman score. What's happened to the guys? They need to step up. You've been let down by the men.
D
I think we're gonna get a Masassa session hopefully before the end of the Worlds, and the boys just have to be there. They did get a Misty Cliff session, but it wasn't a really lifty day at Misty's. I. I also went out after they got off the water and. And you take off and then literally the wind would. It. You'd be halfway up your jump and then the wind would turn off. And so the guys couldn't get the height there at Misty's. So hopefully, hopefully before the end of the year, I mean, before the end of the Worlds, there'll be another session for them to. To claim the top spot.
B
We've just finished the first of the team event. How hard is that team total height. Is that tough? I mean, it must be tough. I mean, when I see those scores coming through from the big, big boys, Like Timo and Dan the Ironman Bouchard. I mean, how do those guys do that?
D
We really weren't expecting Team CTA to even be up there, but thank goodness we've got a good team of Groms this year. After struggling to find groms, the new Groms coming through in Cape Town are phenomenally enthusiastic and good. These boys are doing things at height that, yeah, considering their experience, they are going to be incredible kiters. Well, they all are already incredible characters, but it's. Yeah, the future is going to be bright for all of these boys that were on the, on the total height leaderboard there. I mean, Camden did a really good job up in Longevan doing, I think I checked his stats. 300 jumps over, over 6 meters in the one session, like literally going back and forth and jumping. And he says he did a lot of boosting, so his abs must be sore. And then of course DK is very stoked to, to have helped a little bit on that side of things as well. But the, but the boys did really well to, to push to get into fourth place. So that was absolutely brilliant.
B
Well, look, so I don't think you're going to be beaten on that, but I don't want to jinx it. You know, we've, we're under, we're over halfway through now and I hope you can hold.
D
If I am beaten, it'll be absolutely. For women's kiting. That's. That's all I'm saying. So that's like I am more than, more than happy if a woman goes out and jumps 28 meters. That's brilliant. Like I, I like Angeli and Jasmine being up there. I mean, Angeli is always like, she's not just jumping high. She actually, she does stuff at that height, which is, which is mind blowing. So, and the, a lot of the girls behind me, the, the, the top riders of pros, they are jumping big and doing loops and things, whereas I'm just jumping big at the moment. So maybe one day when I get my knees and everything nice and strong, which I'm working on with, with Ruan Retief from Boundfoot.
B
Nice little play.
D
I'll be a lot more confident to do that.
B
Well, congratulations again. So good luck to the rest of the CT team for the nations cup and yeah, hopefully we'll get you back on to update this Woo Worlds later in the, in the month.
D
Okay, thanks Adrian. Have a super day.
B
CTA CT Air fourth in the Nations Cup. They came fourth in team total height. They don't really care about that. But the nations cup is something they're looking forward to. But the funny thing about their team, they actually got a great lady score, the top lady score in the world, and then got a great junior score. They've been let down by their men, Jason Vanderspay, Luca Trudy. So maybe those guys are going to go out after the.
A
What they've been busy doing. I reckon they've been busy preparing for cold Hawaii.
B
So maybe the boys will go out after the competition to try and lift them from fourth in the Nations Cup. Obviously first prize in the nations cup are those sonic fives. So that's going to be a big one to win as well.
A
So Putin clan leader, what are you going to be spending what you're going to be spending your thousand euros of Ion online shop credit on?
B
Well, I've actually, I'm giving them all €2,200 each. They're all getting a voucher. The Woo guys are making those vouchers up to send out and then obviously we'll be looking to cash in first. Pros and team Total Distance. That's our. That's our goal. This was our warm up event. So we're happy with the silver there, but we're going for gold in this. In this team Total distance.
A
That's lame. The. The leader must be above the others and he must be. Or she must be dressed head to toe in the latest that you can get from the Ion online shop. A website I've never been on, but I am sure it is full to the brim with great stuff. Okay? Dan Ironman. Bouchard. Traitor. Ire Kite. Border. Traitor. F at Peach. Can plain. I don't. I'm not bothered with him. Cassandra Coverley. Traitor. Earth of the Surfer. Traitor.
B
They've all been sending me messages saying, how is Colin? I said, he's not happy.
A
Guys, listen. Listen to me, okay? You have left the fold and you will never be coming back. And we will rise again. We will get up from the. We've been punched in the face and we will get up and. And we pump our kite and we will check our lines and we will attach the lines to the kite. Then we will launch the kite and then go an enormous fucking distance for the next team challenge.
B
There's not going to be a prodigal son moment here for any of these people if they want to return to the fold.
A
Shit. No. Do you know why I'm not worried about the Putan clan for Total distance, Adrian?
B
Why is that, Colin?
A
Because I have it from the horse's mouth. I was on the phone to him the other day and the most hopeless kiteboarder on earth is part of your team and seems to be thinking that he's going to be leading the Turtle editions charge for the Pootang Clan. None other than Steezy Pete, who's purchased a chewbanger race foil from a chap called Reese down in Exmouth and has been donated as part of the deal. Some VMGs. He's got a quiver of fly surfer VMGs. Do you know what this means?
B
Go.
A
It means that Steezy Pete will be taken to the water under pressure on the most difficult kit you can possibly have on you. And let me tell you, he might. He might ride for a few hundred meters but that will be it.
B
Well also want to let you know that I just checked my team and Steezy Pete's invitation is still pending. He hasn't even accepted it. Maybe it's too late. Maybe Steezy Pete might not be able to. That invitation's been sitting there well before. I need to check with Wu HQ whether that acceptance can happen. Two and a half weeks into the window. Steezy Pete, you might have. You might have broken my heart here.
A
I'm gonna say it can't.
B
Can anyone stop the Netherlands in the Nations Cup? Is that a done deal?
A
I think we might have to let them have it. Germany really close behind though. Netherlands 248.5 and Germany 235.4. Who's riding for Germany? That's so hot.
B
You say it's real close. That means everyone's got to find another meter and a half on. That's. That's.
A
Who are these people? I've never heard of any of these people. Gloria ashchenazi. She's gone 16.4. Martin Koblish. He's gone 23 meters.
B
He's from Wicker. He's one of. He's a young. He's a 16 year old kid from world class.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Won the high five competition. Has been. He's actually in this fleet. I think he's in the. I think he's in the men's or the pro fleet or. He's definitely in one of the fleets for full power trip. So he's definitely a name to remember yet. Great young kid. 16 year old kid out of Germany. Yeah. Doing super well.
A
Todo core/carped 21.8. Ben M. #flesh air 31.6.
B
Holy Bloody Timo Martin again.
A
Yeah.
B
Guardians of the Galaxy. Timo.
D
Stop. Stop.
B
Tagging me on everything. Timo, I don't want to be tagged in any more posts. Stop it. I will not post any more guardians.
A
Last thing from me. He knows not to even bother with me because I just. There's. I might block him. Actually, that'd be I. Or try and hack him. I'm gonna try and hack him. I'm gonna guess his password. It's probably something like. Jump loads. Jump loads. One, two, three, mate.
B
You know, the funny thing, Colin, about Timo is that he would work all year and have his whole holidays at this one time. His holidays were the Woo Worlds. I mean, that's how crazy this guy is. I mean, you see that post that one minute past midnight, he was going out into the night. And then, guess what? Dan the Iron Man Bouchard, the legend himself. Beaten by. I know. 100 meters or something, which must hurt.
A
That must hurt so much to go that far. And then. Not quite. Just not quite. You are. That's terrible. I had something interesting to say. Now it's gone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Right. Last thing on Woo Worlds. Okay. One of our shipmunks. A fantastic shipmunk. One of the finest. Okay. She would never betray me. I know she wouldn't. She was on a mad trip at the weekend. Try and fight off the Putan clan. Get on. The girl. Her name is Leela, and she had a bit of a disaster with her bar. She came in after losing her board or something. Laid down the kite, went somewhere else to look for her board, got the board, came back. Someone had nicked her bar. And do you know who I think it is, Adrian?
B
Who?
A
Someone in the Poutan clan.
B
Leela French. We would never do that to you. And you're always.
A
You would do that if you want.
B
To come over to the Wu Tang.
A
Exactly.
B
The sort of thing, feel loved and feel respected.
A
She's not coming.
B
Feel the leadership.
A
We have a She's not coming.
B
Great WhatsApp group where there's lots of positivity.
A
So do we. So do we.
B
Keep going.
A
I've got a WhatsApp group. It's not hard. It's not hard because I'm such a fantastic leader, as we all know. I don't even know why I have to keep saying it, but because I am. What I've arranged is for Harlem to give Leela a new bar.
B
That is actually bloody good of you, I must say.
A
And Harlem. Mostly me, but also Harlem. And they said, don't take all the credit for this. And I said, fine.
B
By the way, this Is Lorenzo's bar heavily stretched Lines used from the use from the Red bull megalops. Only 18 meters, Leela, but you'll be okay on that. It'll be good for you. Get those loops lower. Anyway, let's leave it there. It is still the yellow light for the Red Bull King of the Air qualifier Cold Hawaii. We will update you more as we get closer to the event. As I said, the pre show will be on our website. But you are interested and you want to get fired up for this. Check into portrait and watch those watch longs. It's really interesting to hear Liam, Andrea and Lorenzo talking about the final and what they went through in their strategy for that final. And you'll enjoy that. Check out the fantasy podcast, everyone. A deeper dive into each of the writers leading to that. If you are playing fantasy, there's still the chance to win that amazing week at Makani and the Three Corners property at the end of the year.
A
And the bloody Core XR2 Pro.
B
Oh, that's true.
A
By the way, that's the first place prize.
B
First prize. Yeah. Well, it's a great prize. Yeah, that's a great price. The sight of it.
A
Sick prize.
B
Colin, I just saw you for the last three weeks and I just saw you two days ago and I guess I'll see you in another two days with a big smile on your face.
A
I cannot wait for that. Adrian, as you know, you bring so much joy to my life. I just, I. Let's just leave it at that, eh? No, I didn't mean let's just leave it at that. We're just leaving. There's no outro. We're just leaving it at that. Goodbye.
Episode Title: Cold Hawaii?? | Flying High at WOO Worlds
Hosts: Adrian Kerr & Colin Colin Carroll
Date: October 2, 2025
This episode dives deep into what's happening and what's about to happen in the world of kiteboarding, focusing on the upcoming Cold Hawaii event—the Red Bull King of the Air qualifier in Denmark. Adrian and Colin preview the fluctuating weather forecast, the updated rider lineup, and offer lively, sometimes irreverent commentary on the state of competitive kiteboarding. Later in the episode, they switch gears to cover the results and stories from the WOO Worlds competition, including interviews with standout performers. As always, the tone is equal parts stoke and banter, with plenty of memorable off-the-cuff moments.
Liam Whaley:
Just returning after a break—potential “disruptor” even if not a favorite. [05:48]
“Do I think he's really going to challenge Andrea and Lorenzo? No, but I think he could easily be a nuisance for the rest of the fleet.” — Colin [05:48]
Charles Brodel:
Tough conditions (messy water, onshore wind) might not suit his foiling style. Massive equipment tinkerer. [06:15]
“I'm excited to watch Charles ride and also see what gear he's on, too, because he's constantly tinkering…” — Colin [07:09]
Jamie Overbeek & Hugo Wigglesworth:
Jamie “needs a big performance” after a frustrating season; event format suits his style. [09:59]
Hugo’s raw potential, especially if weather suits him.
Josh Gillitt:
Looking to recover from a string of big crashes; seeking a clean run. [11:08]
Sue K’s Record Big Air (Ladies) – Interview Segment [25:48–36:55]
This Megapod episode is a high-energy, in-depth kiteboarding bulletin blending Cold Hawaii anticipation with Woo Worlds’ leaderboard celebration. Adrian and Colin toggle between hard analysis, nostalgic stoke, industry gossip, and tongue-in-cheek rivalry. Listeners get a true sense of big air culture—its drama, innovation, camaraderie, and relentless competitive drive—with plenty of laughs and a few heartwarming community gestures for good measure. Whether you’re a fully invested fan, fantasy league player, aspiring pro, or armchair meteorologist, this episode brings you “behind the scenes” with the sport’s biggest personalities and moments as the world waits for the next big storm.