From Big Air to Big Animation | The Megapod

Summary

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Kitesurf365: The Megapod

Episode: From Big Air to Big Animation
Date: April 9, 2026
Hosts: Adrian Kerr & Colin Colin Carroll

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Episode Overview

This Megapod delivers the usual irreverent banter and up-to-the-minute kiteboarding talk, balancing big name competitive chatter with behind-the-scenes insight into the sport’s personalities and future content projects. Adrian and Colin riff on the latest record-breaking big air jumps, the changing landscape of kiteboarding sponsorship and competition, the role of personality in brand-building, and their newest creative venture: an animated satire about the kite scene. Listeners are treated to sharp opinions, silly humor, and a peek into the creative processes fueling the next wave of kiteboarding media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Big Air Progression: Race to 40, 50, and the Legitimacy of Record Jumps

• Jamie Overbeek’s 40m jump is dissected, with admiration for the clean footage and swift media turnaround.

• The hosts emphasize the importance of video evidence for kiteboarding records, referencing social media reactions and legitimacy.

  “It’s the first time that Wu’s put out a big total and we haven’t seen, you know, sort of noise in the background, say, ah, that wasn’t 40. You know, it was pretty undeniable when you see that footage.” – Colin (01:28)

• Like counts as legitimacy: Detailed comparison of Instagram reactions to jumps by Charles Brodel, Hugo, Jamie, and Andrea.

• Discussion shifts from the “race to 40” to the new challenge: the “race to 50.”

  “If we set a 45, you know, it doesn’t sound cool. I think it’s the race to 50 now.” – Adrian (00:57)

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2. Iconic Kiteboarding Stunts: Tarifa Pier Jump

• Andrea Principi’s recent pier jump is met with understated enthusiasm; Colin and Adrian debate its originality.

• Rundown of previous athletes who’ve jumped the pier (Reuben Lenten, Maxi Gomez, Stig, Kamenick), suggesting the move’s “been done.”

  “Of course it’s a yawn. Blimey. Half the town’s done it.” – Adrian (04:54)

• Motivation behind these stunts (publicity, money, car ads) is discussed, raising questions about the future focus of elite riders.

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3. The Evolving Careers of Elite Riders

• Focus on Andrea Principi’s shifting priorities: Is he losing interest in competition in favor of content stunts or sponsor-friendly projects?

  “He’s a firecracker. No chance of anyone telling him what to do. And that’s what makes him so brilliant. … He’s going to turn up and just do his own thing and that’s going to be what we get to enjoy.” – Adrian (07:49)

• The pair discuss rider identity vs. brand, injecting references to other sports (Dennis Rodman).

• They discuss whether sponsors like Red Bull value this maverick approach.

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4. Behind the Scenes: Road to Pro and Kiteboarding Content

• Light-hearted mocking of co-star Jetto’s confusion and general lack of organizational awareness on the “Road to Pro” video series.

  “Zero. Comprehension. Zero.” – Adrian (09:46)

• Reflection on the recent glut of podcast content, questioning whether quality or quantity should be the priority.

• Celebratory mention of rider-owned brands, specifically Alex Pastor and his strategy with Airush.

• Discussion of key signings—Baby Shark and Davy Ribeiro—and how young riders are adapting quickly to new gear.

  “From that to, it’s only two or three days later, he looked like he’d been on those kites for a year.” – Adrian (12:17)

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5. Industry Shifts: Brand Leadership and Direction

• Noting major management changes: Clinton Fleen moving from Airush to North and Mystic.
• Observations on the greater workload at apparel-heavy brands compared to kite-centric companies.

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6. Big News: Creating a Kiteboarding Cartoon

• Adrian and Colin unveil their animated satire project, styled as the “Simpsons of extreme sports” with pros voicing caricatures of themselves.

  “We want Nine Lives to be the coolest, sexiest thing on earth. We want Road to Pro to be the stupidest, pointless thing … I think to add a cartoon in the mix as well as a podcast, it just makes us really diverse.” – Adrian (17:53)

• Inspiration from shows like The Simpsons, South Park, Rick & Morty, Big Les Show.

• Plans for “audio first,” then visual release—aiming for a lowbrow, irreverent look.

• Characters to include well-known riders (including Andrea, Tom Bridge, Jamie Overbeek) and inside-industry figures (“the Joy Sucker”).

  “I want the pros to come in and do their own voice. … They are going to have to be comfortable with making mugs of themselves, which I actually think is the ultimate cool thing to do.” – Adrian (15:30 & 15:38)

• Satirical aim: poke fun at the self-serious nature of extreme athletes and the pressure brands put on riders for ever-wilder stunts.

  “Extreme sports athletes are quite unique people, aren’t they? Often quite turdish.” – Adrian (23:43)

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7. Looking Ahead: Nine Lives Project Update

• New season shooting in May, at Drapano, Greece (or possibly Sicily).
• Tom Bridge is the first rider confirmed, with Finn Flugel also likely.
• Highlighting the excitement of blending established and up-and-coming talents.

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8. Memorable & Notable Moments

• Iconic Quote:

  “You just want to see the world burn, don’t you? You just want to see chaos. On the comments.” – Adrian (03:50)

• Colin’s play-by-play of public reactions and the meme potential of certain rider moves.
• Colin likening the hosts’ podcast efforts to being “amateur idiots” amid a sea of similar sports podcasts (28:18).
• Laughter about organizational chaos, confusion planning trips, and “sand in the eyes” moments on Road to Pro.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:43 – “Race to 40” over, “race to 50” begins
• 01:28 – Legitimacy of Jamie’s 40m jump, comparing media reactions
• 03:58 – Comments and controversy around highest jumps
• 05:59 – Andrea Principi and the question of competition commitment
• 09:09 – Jetto’s confusion and Road to Pro, episode 2 teasers
• 10:49 – Airush relaunch, Alex Pastor’s vision, rider signings
• 14:22 – Discussion about the new animated kiteboarding satire
• 15:12 – Pros voicing their own cartoon characters
• 17:53 – Mission for multi-modal media (cartoon, podcast, series)
• 24:12 – Nine Lives series update, location and riders
• 26:34 – Messaging legend Andre Philippe; reflections on hero outreach

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Language & Tone

The episode is loaded with British wit, playful derision, insider references, and affectionate ribbing—the hosts poking fun at both themselves and the kiteboarding world. There’s candor about the business of kiteboarding, honest reflection on the sport’s evolving personality, and genuine excitement for new creative ventures, balanced by self-deprecating humor and “utter rubbish” chit-chat.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode of The Megapod is a must if you want to know what (and who) is hot in kiteboarding right now, how the sport is shifting beyond competitions, and what new, creative media experiments are on the horizon. Expect the usual chaos, big ideas, laughter, and a glimpse at the personalities shaping both the action on the water and the stories told off it.

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Transcript

[A]

Shame that no one's done the Roly Poly loop.

[B]

Pretty undeniable when you see that footage.

[A]

And I want the pros to come in and do their own voice and

[B]

it's out the next day. How they do that. The turnaround speed is unbelievable.

[C]

I'm so sorry, Kyro, but I am starving. Catastrophic equipment failure.

[A]

Going for the boogaloo double just to get the landing.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Had a couple of strings and it was extremely dangerous. Guys, I sent the trap and it is gold for Ellie Aldrid and gold for Great Britain. What are we going to start with, Colin? Let's. Let's start with the race to 40 is now over. Yeah.

[A]

What was done last year?

[B]

Yeah, officially. Oh, let's say officially with twin tips like how come I don't give credit to fo. But anyway, the race to 40 is officially over. I was thinking about the other day, where are we going? Is it the race to 50? I think we need to set a big target cuz if we set a 45, you know, it doesn't sound cool. I think it's the race to 50 now.

[A]

Race to 50. I still think it's a shame that no one's done the Roly Poly loop where you jump, you start at 12, you aim the kite down at 6 and then you just hope that the yank pulls you more downwind of the kite and then it comes up the other way. A bit like going over the top of a child swing.

[B]

I want to say one thing about Jamie's jump. It's the first time that wu's put out a big total and we haven't seen, you know, sort of noise in the background, say, ah, that wasn't 40, you know, it was pretty undeniable when you see that footage. But man, you know, Jamie's. What about Jamie's download, dude? I mean, that is the craziest thing you've ever seen to. To slow that down and stick that landing because he's coming down. He doesn't go very far at all by the way. Go straight up and straight down. But that thing is just so far to the side to slow him down. It's. It's really crazy. He speaks about that on the last podcast about why he doesn't do a double heli loop in those situations because he thinks it's too much speed and you'll crash. But yeah, it's crazy. Crazy landing from Jamie, as impressive as the jump in in in some people's eyes.

[A]

You're right. It was way more accepted online and it was a Much louder bang online in my view too. And I think there's got to be a. Yeah, the legisl. The legitimacy of it is important there. For example, Charles Bridal 5,000 likes when he got his 37.2. Let me go and find old mate Hugo. 14.8 thousand likes. Jamie Overbeek. 59,000. 59,000.

[B]

Can you just have a quick look while you're online? How did that compare to Andrea's jump?

[A]

Andrea's off the Dubai jobby.

[B]

Dubai? Ain. Yeah, ain Dubai. Yep.

[A]

16.9 thousand for Andrea Pinchas Crane Drump.

[B]

Guys were ready with cameras to get every angle and make. And Jamie even jumping to 38. 8 with the 360 on his back was also crazy. But yeah, I just think the legitimacy of how high it was and the. The shots and the video coming out super fast. I think that sort of just. Those are always the things. Right? Where's the video? I never saw the video. Doesn't count without a video. This one had it all. And I actually should go back and I should go back and check the disc, the difference between this jump and Mario Sanchez's jump at the same spot and just see if. See if I can see any similarities. Marius is obviously a lot of heli loops and a lot more distance. This is obviously a direct height right up and down. Marius was sort of more like staggered going up.

[A]

You just want to see the world burn, don't you? You just want to see. You just want to see chaos. On the comments.

[B]

I mean, I actually enjoy reading the comments on. On things like that because I think some people are super positive. There's always a few negative stuff. Is it?

[A]

But I think no, there's always a few negative little nancies, aren't there?

[B]

Unbelievable. 12 days for Jamie Overbeek. I think he said he's cracked. He only crashed two tricks in 12 days. 12 days of training and competing. Only crashed twice and both of that were in Lords of Tram, which is insane that he's in this amazing patch of form. Go and listen to that interview with. On Jamie Overbeek. I just put out yesterday and Alessa the day before that. And then the woo with Jamie day before that. Then the winners are losers day before. There's been a lot of episodes. So we're sort of kind of killing the momentum here.

[A]

But I think we do too many.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I honestly think it should be one free podcast a week that is of disgustingly good quality.

[B]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Hey, Andrea Pri jumped over Tarifa pair. Did you see that? I didn't even know this was happening.

[A]

It yawn.

[B]

You think it's a yawn now?

[A]

Of course it's a yawn. Blimey. Half the town's done it.

[B]

How many? I think is he the fifth guy or sixth guy? Fifth guy.

[A]

I think Reuben Lenton did it first. Yeah. Maxi Gomez has done it.

[B]

Yeah. Stig.

[A]

Stig's done it.

[B]

Can Kamenick's done it.

[A]

There'll be some other guys that have done it that just didn't post it because they do it for the. They're the real ones, you know. And now. And now Andrea Pinchippi has also done it. Reuben did it on a sea kite.

[B]

Reuben looped it.

[A]

Reuben looped it.

[B]

Yeah, dude. A sea kite looping on sea kite is kind of sick. Is it as impressive as it. You think it is? I think it's because it's. I think it's tough because for most people it's a goofy foot jump.

[A]

Yeah. But not for Andrea. I think it's not interesting. It's been done so many times. I think he did it for some strange car shoot. I think that's great, but I don't think it's very interesting.

[B]

Sorry, you think it's for money?

[A]

Yeah. How to get paid, brother.

[B]

Yeah. Is Andrea going down the same route as Reuben? I kind of feel like just talking to people. I was even speaking to Jamie that I said, how's. How's Andrea? He said he was totally fine, but didn't seem like he was very focused on competition and, you know, getting ready late is. Are we going to lose Andrea to competitions? A bit like we lost Reuben back in the day and got sort of a bit disillusioned with it and went off and did his own thing. Not. Not that it's a bad move. I mean, I think that Andrea being like Reuben, the. One of the biggest faces in the sport, you can have a valid career that's not in competition. And I think we should be encouraging people that competition isn't the only way. I mean, there should be other options for young riders out there in content creation or coaching or doing some of those lines. We. We're so focused on you got to make it, you got to be good in comps and that's not what all professionals are about. Right. So maybe he's. Yeah, I'll go back. Do you think we're losing him to competitions and he's going to drift away and start doing his own stuff and doing stuff like that all the time?

[A]

I Think he'll turn up in the competitions and not take it very seriously and be epic. That's what I hope and that's what I think. I can't see him taking competition super seriously, mate. He's already won everything. What's the point?

[B]

I know, but epic. Epic in which way though, dude? Epic in that he. He's riding with a. I don't give a attitude. Or epic in the fact that he's still doing well. I mean, he can't, like, I mean, we saw him lose a heat, win a heat, you know, lose a heat to Martin Kabushki, then beat, you know, beat Lorenzo and Baby Shark. You know, he can, he can be on off all the time and I don't. And he was that. What I'm saying though is he was never that guy. He was always razor focused and wanted to win. Now I feel like that's different. I, I don't know if that's a positive move for him or it's better for her, is better for him moving forward.

[A]

He's a firecracker. No chance of anyone telling him what to do. And that's what makes him so brilliant. I think. Yeah, I've said it. I think he's going to turn up and just do his own thing and that's going to be what we get to enjoy. And I'm all for it, honestly.

[B]

When does that start damaging your brand? The brand that is Andrea or is Andre?

[A]

It just gets better. It just gets better and better.

[B]

Arguably when you think about people like Dennis Rodman, and I'm not saying that he's Dennis Robin, that's a very, very old reference. But you know, some of the older people will know I'm talking about, I

[A]

mean, Blaine, who Dennis Rodman is, he

[B]

was a basketball player who wore a dress and married himself. You know, bang. Madonna was, you know, friends with Kim Jong Il. Just a crazy person, but was a multiple time NBA champion. Just did things differently. I, I don't want. But he's so respected in the sport. Even now people still talk about Rodman, you know, so I wonder if Andrea is going to have that sort of meant. I think people are going to be speaking about Andre forever. Right? What I'm trying to say, dude, is I don't know when it starts damaging his brand versus benefiting the brand, you know, I mean, is Red Bull happy with this?

[A]

I wouldn't know.

[B]

He's not going to be getting Toro Rosso modeling jobs like at this Rosie. We've got Tom Bridge for that. Hey, let's Talk about Road to Pro episode two, because that comes out on Friday, right?

[A]

No, following Friday. If it was coming out this coming Friday, I would not be here right now.

[B]

You'd be stressed to tits.

[A]

I'd be panicking telling you to AI voice me and just make it work. Most stupid bit of episode one for you, Pete.

[B]

Throwing sand into the air. Running around, just throwing sand up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does he know when you throw sand up directly above your head, it comes straight down on top of you.

[A]

What? Into his eyes.

[B]

It's funny how little Jetto actually knows what's going on most of the time.

[A]

Zero. Comprehension. Zero.

[B]

Absolutely zero. Let me give you some reference. When we were organizing this, I was speaking to Jetto quite a bit and he keeps saying to me, two days before we were due to be at the airport, he said, are you guys really coming tomorrow? I said, yeah, we've booked for cars and Book House. He goes, I know, but I didn't think you were actually coming. So I think the whole time he couldn't quite believe that we were actually there.

[A]

I mean I couldn't either. We shouldn't have been there.

[B]

Should have just been an old blighty.

[A]

Yeah, we should have flown them to England. But yeah. Yeah, that's the state of it, isn't it?

[B]

I'm gonna try to get Baby Shark on the podcast again. I think everyone should hear this kid and the new change.

[A]

They should.

[B]

What about his mustache?

[A]

Unbelievable.

[B]

It's a classic Pedro moustache. Yeah. Did you get a chance to speak to Alex Pastor and was that his first bigger event he's been to? I. I'm sure he's been to Full Power Truth, but I never seen him at any bigger events. Was he enjoying that?

[A]

The answer is yes and yes. I did speak to him and I think it was his first. I can't ever remember seeing him turn up a big air event. He's an epic guy. He is an epic guy and I said to him, well done because we need more rider owned brands in this sport. Currently the sport is owned by people that have moved on to winging and other mind numbing things. So this is what we need. And he's. He's a rock star. He's a freestyle world champion. He was cool as fuck in the early teenies and he gets it. Like the fact that he's gone after Baby Shark and can wants to build the brand around him. Just epic. So yeah, big up Air Rush and big up Alex Pastor and I think

[B]

they've signed really well. I mean, don't they have Davy Ribeira as well? So they've got Davy Riberio, a super young, talented, potential freestyle legend, and got Baby Shark. I think I want to say that the actual. The actual signings that they've done are amazing. And Baby Shark just really took that kite. I mean, it's just. It just shows how talented he is as a pilot. Right. I mean, he'd said to me, couple of days before, he said, I just need to get used to the kites. And not quite. I'm not. I'm not quite there yet. But from that to, it's only two or three days later, he looked like he'd been one of those kites for a year.

[A]

And new logo, I think it needs a fresh start. And I think that logo is sick. I like it. I think it's. Yeah, I'm just excited by everything that's going on there.

[B]

Do they sign anyone new or they just work with these two guys in and try and build that up or maybe look to get a girl as well?

[A]

I mean, I think they've got enough. I think that's pretty good. And I think he's inheriting a brand that, you know, it was on its knees. So I think the only way is up from here and I'm down for

[B]

it, honestly, mate, they had Bruner, freestyle world champion, riding those kites.

[A]

I mean, I think she still rides those kites.

[B]

Yeah, I think she's still on.

[A]

Let's have a look. I'm gonna go on Bruner's Instagram right now. Yeah, yeah, she's on there. I can see the new logo and all.

[B]

Maybe she's getting gear and not. Not being paid or something like that. I don't know.

[A]

I think that would be the case. But, yeah, basically, guys, the guy that ran Air Rush for many years is now running north and Mystic Clinton is his name and he's one of the most experienced kite brand runners in the game. But that is a really big task running those two and a really big change from a small kite brand to one of the biggest. And mystic as well as north is just this huge. So, yeah, that's what's happening over Air Rush and North Mystic.

[B]

You're right about Mystic. That is a lot of work. You know, new designs and colors and stuff coming out all the time. And product shoots. I mean, when you're talking about. When you talk about kites, you're talking about limited number of. Of stuff to shoot, right? When you're talking about clothes and apparel and stuff like that. Man, it just must be a. Must be an absolute nightmare. That's a. That's a big job. You're right. That's a. That's a massive step up for Clinton Fleen, one of the nice guys in the sport. I mean, I think this in general, we do generally have nice guys in the sport.

[A]

Let's talk a bit about the cartoon. We've talked about it a bit in the members podcast that's going out this week as well. But yeah, we've been talking about this for the past few weeks. Productions already in on its way. We're writing the stories at the moment and beginning the illustration for the characters. It is a satire of extreme sports athletes who traditionally think rather a lot of themselves. And what do you mean traditionally?

[B]

Traditionally is not the word. It's every time.

[A]

So they're quite an easy target. And yeah, we're excited to do it. The simpsons of extreme sports, starting in kiteboarding, of course.

[B]

Can we have some little spoilers of some of the names? Do we have any little character character names we can drop in here for some. For some fun?

[A]

I want to each episode to feature a pro. So I want. And I want the pros to come in and do their own voice.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I want Andrea to be a character. I want Tom Bridge to be a character. I want Hale, I want Cohen, I want Jamie Overbeak, I want Francesca Maney. I think it's. Yeah. They are going to have to be comfortable with making mugs of themselves, though, which I actually think is the ultimate cool thing to do, to go and make a twat of yourself on purpose. Much like. Did you watch Extras?

[B]

Of course. I love it.

[A]

The Ricky Gervais. So like Daniel Radcliffe who plays Harry Potter, obviously. I don't know why I'm having to say that. He can't act for shit. But for some reason on Extras, he comes on playing a caricature of himself and he's amazing in it and he makes such. He makes himself look like such a bell end that you're like, that is epic. And for me, they just all ascend into like herodom because of it. So that's the plan. That's the plan. And using the Colin, Colin Carroll character to do that and bring out the worst in people, essentially, and what the other characters. There is a social media manager, of course, who's going to be called the Joy Sucker. And there are caricatures of people that we've met over the years, brand managers who expect a lot and don't pay. What else are we in it are

[B]

me and you in it.

[A]

We're not. We should be, though.

[B]

Find us a role. Find us roll for me and you.

[A]

Yeah, it's massive. Massive.

[B]

Let's not get too crazy.

[A]

Yeah. We've never done anything like this, of course. Never written anything so narrative as well.

[B]

You know, usually we're, you know, diving into our friendship. You know, I've asked you what you would like to do, and you said to me, I'd like to write a series of some. Something, you know, a drama series or something along those lines. So this is kind of like, you know, going down what you've wanted to do for some time, which is. Yeah, to write something. I know this is satirical nature, but

[A]

for sure, for sure, we want to do a range of stuff. You know, we want Nine Lives to be the coolest, sexiest thing on earth. We want Road to Pro to be the most stupid, pointless thing in kiteboarding. I think to add a cartoon in the mix as well as a podcast, I just think it makes us really diverse and it's quite a complete offering. That's not the reason why we want to do it, though. We want to do it because it sounds fun. Ultimately, that's it.

[B]

Always looking to do new stuff and fun stuff. That's got to be the key, right? If you get stuck in the mud, you're stuck in the. Stuck in the rotation. It just becomes tough. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. And when. When is that first one going to come out?

[A]

I want it in the summer.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

So we really are around the corner from it.

[A]

Yeah. I want to push really hard for it. I think we're going to have to do. And this is where the audience are going to come in. We're going to produce it for audio first to make sure that the story works and the characters are there. And there is also just test, the appetite for it as well. So audio only maybe here on the podcast first, and then we bring in the visuals. We also need to put a big section of it not behind the paywall. I think that's important. So I think we can lay up YouTube there too.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

[A]

At least for the initial launch bits, because we're gonna have to get better. This is what I keep thinking, like, we're not going to be brilliant at this straight away.

[B]

We're gonna need to have a really nice audio studio where they can read.

[A]

Oh, imagine.

[B]

Oh, I can't wait to get my fingers into that. Into some sound dampening. The little things in life, the little things in Life, Colin.

[A]

So, Adrian, what cartoons did you love growing up? What cartoons do you love now? Maybe you watch them now.

[B]

I mean, for sure. When I grew up watching the Simpsons, I watched Rick and Morty. Ah, I don't know if anyone out there has seen Rick and Morty. It's the epitome of craziness. It's probably one of the most crazy things I've ever seen. I like Family Guy. I mean, I guess the Simpsons and South park were the two biggest ones I watched as a kid. South park are very good at keeping things topical. How they something can happen and it's out the next day. How they do that, the turnaround speed is unbelievable. But they can be, they can walk an edge where you're like, how are these guys not having, you know, thousand Muslims burn their studios to the ground? How they get away with that? And I'd like to be able to walk a fine line and do things on the edge.

[A]

Wouldn't we all dance on it, please? Impulse life for people with our limited skill sets and talent. But yeah, I think in Japan most recently we watched because of the food poisoning incident that went down. There's a scene in south park where should we just. Should we just play it? Basically they're discussing there's like a human centipede set up, so humans attached to other people's rectums and, and one person. Let's just play it. Let's just play it.

[C]

So sorry, Kairo, but I am starving. Which would you rather I eat? Should I eat the cuttlefish and asparagus or the vanilla pe. Cuttlefish and asparagus. Very well, I will eat the cuttlefish.

[B]

What are the optics going to be? How are they going to look? Are they going to look more like humans? Are they going to more like sticks? Like south park looking stuff versus no,

[A]

I want it to be low brow. I want it to be shit. I love the Big Les show aesthetic. Are you aware of that?

[B]

No, but I'm gonna check it out.

[A]

So it's hand drawn by one guy on paint and it is purposefully shit. And I just love that. I think it's probably quite freeing because he's like, well, it doesn't need to be that funny or that dramatically sound because it would be doing the aesthetic an injustice, I think. Yeah, something around that. But honestly, I'm not going to be in charge of that bit. I'm going to let illustrators come in and do that. So I don't really care as long as it's a bit Shit, that's fine with me.

[B]

I love the fact that you're going to try and get the writers to do the audio. I think that's super cool.

[A]

Can you imagine the Nick Jacobson, the Kevin. The Kevin Langaroy special.

[B]

Nick Jacobson on top of that. On top of the crane. Where's me sandwich? Where is that? So stupid. But, dude, you could actually have some fun with that. Even, like doing some of the, you know, going over some of the old classic John Classic stuff moves, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But I also want to be like. Because nowadays, you know, there are conversations with brands and writers being like, so which. What are you going to jump off next? And probably needs to be more big and more dangerous than the last one, doesn't it? And I just think that's such, like a dangerous precedent and I think that the brands deserve a good ribbing for that. So there'll be a bit of that also. Yeah, just in general, extreme sports athletes are quite unique people, aren't they often quite turdish. And I think. I think we can get them pretty good. That's my. That's my theory.

[B]

It's going to be good. I think it's. I think it's cool. I think it's different.

[A]

We don't know if it'll be good, but we're going to try.

[B]

No, but it's different. Right. And. And in a. In a. In a sport where every single bit of content has been tried and made a thousand times, you know, you got to start looking outside of the box. And I think this is a cool way to go. I think it's going to be fun. A lot of fun.

[A]

Very good. Very good. All right, Wind, noise, segue, then we're out of here. So Nine Lives. We're looking to shoot in May, and we're tossing up locations and riders at the moment. It's going to be the best riders on Earth. And either. No, it's going to be Greece, it's going to be Drapano. I think the other option was Sicily, which I was quite keen for, too, but Coco Spot.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's an unfair home advantage for Cocaluto, to be honest. Yeah, you can't have that if you haven't seen the Nine Lives series from last year or the year. But I think it was the year before. Right. Actually was one of my favorite. One of my favorite portrait projects.

[A]

No, it was last year it came out. It was shot the year before, but last year it came out.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was so much fun. And if you like freestyle? This is everything you ever dreamed of. The best guys doing legendary moves from some of the great moves in history. Yeah, it was super cool. And are we going to drop some names of some riders who are involved in this, the upcoming season?

[A]

Should we start leaking them? Have we got some confirmed ones? Do you want to. Do you want to give us one

[B]

guess who was first to confirm? Of all the people, your mate Tom Bridge. All the people who was first to come back said, I'm in, mate, which was a bloody surprise.

[A]

I actually think I messaged DZ Wonder

[B]

himself first to confirm, which was pretty cool. The other one that I'm really interested to see is Finn Flugel. He is yet to confirm, but has said he's interested. I think that is going to be a real clash of Finn versus Tom. I mean, we've got some other cool guys coming, but that's just a class of classic clash of styles almost. Right. Boots versus straps, big guy versus a small guy. You know, like a changing of the guard. That's going to be fun.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Here is a little excerpt from the members podcast that we just did of Adrian talking about contacting Andre Philippe, who. Yeah, we really want to be involved with this project, dude.

[B]

You know what it's like having to call Andre Philippe for the people out there who. I didn't call him. I sent him a message on WhatsApp. To people out there listening who don't know Andre Philippe Dre, as he's more famously called. He is a legendary freestyle park rider. Yeah. Having to send him a message to potentially work on a project with us, it's kind of weird. I haven't. I felt like I was texting someone out of my league, which doesn't happen very often, you know, because I generally know everyone I'm contacting. Right. But to text someone like that or WhatsApp someone like that, dude, I felt a bit. I felt a bit. It made me feel a bit strange doing. Does that make sense?

[A]

Humbled way.

[B]

Not humble, but like, oh, shit. I'm actually texting someone who potentially doesn't know me but is a legend in the sport. You know, I thought that was a really cool thing to feel. I don't get to feel that very often, by the way. I never. It's very rare do I get to.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

What's the word I'm looking for? You know, like, be a little bit nervous about reaching out to someone to do a project or to be involved in something that we do, because, I mean, What. What does Dre mean to you? You know, I. I said he's a bit like the Tom made Tom bridge of time, but maybe that's not even fair. Maybe he's bigger than that. How would you surmise Dre's impact? Yeah, how would you surmise his impact on. On the industry? Because he's not a super well known name.

[A]

Not now, but he was for sure.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, yeah. He's the epitome of cool in kiteboarding. Jolly good. That's probably enough. What do you think?

[B]

I think we're done, bro.

[A]

One of the great episodes.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

Do you know everyone does podcasts now? Everyone, like in all the other sports, as amateur idiots like us doing podcasts. And the more I go on the Internet and see idiots doing podcasts, the more I'm like, oh, no. That's what we do. It's very. It's very disheartening, Adrian.

[B]

I mean, it swings and roundabouts, you know? I mean, last. The last 10 days was just fast paced, lots of information, and unfortunately, we're in a little bit of a holding period till the next event, so we're just gonna have to entertain you with. Entertain with this dribble. It's just how it's going to come out from the corner of my mouth.

[A]

People are weird.

[B]

That's me just sucking the dribble back up.

[A]

All right, guys, thanks for us. Always. See you in the next one. Goodbye.