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Road to Pro set in Japan, comes out on Friday. But this is the Lords of Tram wrap up, isn't it? It's the winners and losers. We're going to say who came out smelling like roses and who came out smelling like nothing else to it really, is there, Adrian? Let's do it.
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Catastrophic equipment failure.
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A
Going for the boogaloo double just to get the landing.
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B
Had a couple of strings and it was extremely dangerous.
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C
Guys, I sand the trap and it
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B
is gold for Ellie Aldridge and gold for Gray Brit Colin. Lords of Tram delivers again. I mean, what an event.
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A
Was massive this one. Yeah, and a satisfying end. And you missed actually, Adrian, sorely.
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B
The FOMO was, was huge, especially to be there to witness the first 10 in big air, you know, to witness a final like that. What an awesome event. He.
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A
How was it on the stream?
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B
Fantastic. Well, let's get straight to it, mate. That's one of my first winners. The, you know, the whole production was, was amazing. Great commentary. The drone shots were awesome. I don't know if you've seen that drone shot of Jamie's 10, but I mean that drone pilot needs, he needs a pay rise or, or something. I thought the win games was great, that the direct replays every time were awesome. Overall, the, the product was great. I mean, I've said it before and I say it again, the team at the Lords of Tram venue do an amazing job. They really run this event and, and they do a fantastic job. And as I said, even if it wasn't part of the GK would be an amazing event, a standalone event, one
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A
of the majors for sure. For sure. Right, first loser.
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B
Should we get straight into it. Should we get to the nitty gritty and talk about the scoring debacle between Baby Shark and Lorenzo? Is that. Are we just going to get straight into the nasty stuff?
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A
Yeah. Do you want me to explain it?
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B
You give us your side and then I'll. I'll. I'll give you what I. What I thought coming from someone on this side of the stream, because that might give two different quite angles to the situation. And I thought this was a huge loser on all parts, by the way.
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A
I'm going to simplify it and just tell it very quickly because it's easy to get bogged down in detail and I just tried to do it and I was boring even myself. So here it is in a nutshell. Problem with the scoring on day one meant that Lorenzo finished his heat with a miscategorization within the scoring of a Josue trick. Lorenzo Then used that as evidence that he would have ridden that heat differently on day one. So it changed how he would have done it, changed how his strategy and therefore perhaps changed the outcome. He takes that to the judges overnight and they think, actually, we did muck up shit. Okay, well, how do we rectify this? Let's give him a one on one rerun of one trick him against Yosui in the morning. Baby Shark wakes up. Well, Baby Shark goes to sleep thinking, I beat Lorenzo Casati yesterday and I've got a semi final on my hands with my new sponsor, Air Rush. Everything's looking tickety. Boo wakes up, gets told he's got to do a one on one against the current king of the air and isn't happy about it. So Baby Shark refuses to compete. Baby Shark's flag goes up, Hooter goes. Baby Shark sits on the beach, Lorenzo's flag goes up, Hooter goes. And Lorenzo has to get a 7.4 to change the outcome of the previous heats result. He rides around for a bit and everyone is watching on the edge of their seats thinking, if he does this, this is so clutch. And I was, I was convinced and I told Baby Shark, I was like, he's going to ride and he is going to beat 7.4. He will do it. So if you sit there and let it happen, you're let, you're just, you're just letting it happen. If you go out there, you could try and make that job harder for him. And Baby Shark was like, no, it's the principle. If I go and compete, it validates the decision. It is wrong. Is wrong. So he sat there based on his principles, which I, in hindsight knowing the outcome was epic anyway. Lorenzo doesn't get a good gust, lands a trick that could have been around the sevens and then crashes on landing. Crowd erupts on the beach. Jose goes through. Everyone thinks, you know, that was maybe the most fair thing because Lorenzo feels like he got a second chance. But Jose way goes through and that's what happened.
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B
Look, I think that the scorers, the judges, that whole judging team need to take a good look at themselves. Look, mistakes happen in sport, they happen all the time. But what we want to hear is, guys, we made a mistake. This is not going to happen again. This is how we're going to rectify this so we can create the fairest competition for you moving forward. Allowing loudest voices to get their way isn't the right move because it just opens the door for complaints. And I heard this went on for like six hours or something crazy like that. If you're trying to game the system by, oh, I'm in second place. I'm going through. I don't need to push harder. Or maybe I can be in a different heat than my brother. I don't know what the communication was between the consatis. I go back on what I said last week by saying they're do things most professionally. It's not over till the final whistle in any sport. Ronaldo should know that. He's been in sports all his life and we're setting a very fine line here from what's acceptable behavior if you're a young professional kite border expiring professional kite border listening to this. Ride your ass off till the heat is over. Don't ever try and game the system column. We've spoken about this for years. I need to get second place. That never works. It never works. You always get caught out. If you try and game it, you get caught out. I feel sorry for Baby Shark and Lauren as well, you know, I mean, those guys. Especially if Baby Shark slept. I'm sure Lorenzo was. Had a terrible night's sleep thinking, God, I got to get up and do this in the morning. No one wants to have a night like that before a big event. But it's just a bad look. It's a bad look on the sport and we don't need that stuff anymore. And I. If I was the judges, I would have said, guys, we, we messed up. We're going to fix this. I don't know whether it's a glitch in the system, whether it's technical, whether it's human, erro, whatever it is. That's not going to happen again. That's how you get over these. You don't allow people to come into an administrative environment and push their case like a judges and lawyers. We don't want to have a thing where we've got, you know, people having complaints after every single heat. It's just going to slow down the sport and make the sport look bad. I don't want to say anything more than that because that's really. I think it's probably a black eye on a great event. But as you said, maybe it turned out all right in the end for Josue. He got to ride the semi final on his first. On his first competition back on gear. He barely knew. Maybe it was all meant to be this way.
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A
Here is Lorenzo talking about this and it's a clip from the post show, which you can go and listen to now for free on the site.
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D
I mean, it was pretty tough, you know, the wind was super gusty. I went like to try some jump before. Like, I didn't mind the trick I wanted to go for and yeah, honestly, I didn't really got the gas. I think on that jump especially was probably one of the lower I had. And yeah, I just didn't. Wasn't enough to advance and to get like a 7.4 and you know, like, as soon as I kind of take off, I knew it was probably not gonna be enough. But yeah, I mean, honestly, nothing to say, Bishar, because he was riding amazing yesterday and you know, it was just, yeah, misunderscoring of the category. So, you know, everything that happened was not really, not against him but just, you know, a consequence of an error, you know, so. But yeah, like he made it through two times. So that's it.
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A
All right. That was quite loserish really. So let's have a winner. Finn Flugel.
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B
Surely he opens up with a huge trick and crashes out. Like, you'd have to think that trick was going to be a massive trick to start the next trick. He can't get the board, then his kite explodes. One of the hardest things in sport to do cost is getting your momentum back. When things get go bad, they generally go worse. To turn that round and turn that momentum round is actually very, very difficult. And what we saw from this young kid, to be three tricks down in a hole, to lose his gear, run back, get a new kite and then just start ramping it up is nothing more than unbelievable. I mean, he is a superstar in waiting. He's a superstar now, but I mean, I don't think we're seeing how big Finn can get for what he did.
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C
He.
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B
And to wrestle that momentum back, all that frustration shows a maturity well above his 16 years of age. To me, it was kind of crazy. How did that feel on the beach, watching him go through that and then seeing what he did.
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A
So it was electric from the get go because he was on a fly surfer, sonic kite, right. He's a duotone rider, so he's on gear that everyone is like, oh, he shouldn't be on that, shouldn't be on that. So everyone's eyes on him anyway. Also, we haven't really seen the true potential of the Sonics in competition yet. We've seen them be used in like lighter conditions or whatever, but this was pretty breezy. And then, yeah, you're right, that first move, everyone was like, oh my word, maybe he can take this to Jamie and that first one would have been in and around the nines, doesn't stick. It comes back, has a catastrophic equipment failure and then goes and changes and you're right, swings it. Background. I think credit needs to be given to Nico Delmas as well, his coach, for just like re centering him and getting him back. Nico looked critical to all of that. I was stood well, you saw the clip I got. I put on Instagram of him with the little bucket of warm water for his hands and feet. So, yeah, seeing it all unfold was pretty special. And yet he. He's the. He's the next thing. He's the next thing already.
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Andrea Principe. Winner or loser?
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Massive winner.
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Surely he's not. Not a loser. Because I see people saying, oh, the trap's gone. The traps. This dude, what that guy's been through for the performances he put on and the attitude he bought was unbelievable.
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A
Again, like, he was the headline of day one. Turning up with that haircut, just bowling in. It's the equivalent of, I don't know, turning up in a supercar and doing donuts in the car park, isn't it? It. It's pretty epic. He looks epic. And yeah, I loved how he rode in those heats in the first day. Like he was in last place until the last attempt and was just doing dark slides and just did a jump because why not? And then still goes through. It was pure class stuff, really.
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B
Did you get a chance to chat with him? How does he seem? Does he seem like the same Andrea we always knew? Does he feel a bit more aloof or. I mean, I heard in the post show you guys saying he's got a bit of a I don't give a shit attitude, which he always had, but maybe he sort of dived into that a bit more.
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Now on the beach, he didn't seem any different from chatting to him. He just seemed like the classic Andrea that we know. But yet on the water and his approach to this competition was different for sure. His riding was remarkable, though. He was just taking huge risk. He did the board over the lines with a board flip. That's a world first in competition.
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B
Before we finish on Andrea, for me, the look is very different now. You know, I don't know whether this is a permanent look. He's got the new tattoos and I want to say something about, like, Finn. When you see Finn on camera, he's got that attitude, the personality, the look and the approach to kiteboarding. That's very clean cut. Andre has gone from that guy to almost the polar opposite. He's almost a polar opposite of. Of Finn now and what he's doing. And maybe that's a good thing. Maybe we need that guy who's.
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A
I think. Yeah, we do.
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B
We've actually. We've always been saying we need more bad guys in the sport. Maybe Andre is turning heel. Maybe Andre is going to be that guy now and pick up from Tom Bridge and, you know, carry that mantle forward as kite boarding's bad boy.
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A
Yeah, I'm all for it. I'm all for it. I just hope that he is all right. I think we all hope that.
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B
Let's talk about the other big winner on the day, Alyssa Minch. I think let's be fair. No one going into this thought Alyssa was going to win this event. I mean, not even her, probably.
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A
When you woke up this morning, did you think, I can do this?
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C
No. If I'm being honest, this morning at 5, 6, I thought, I can't do anything. Then I pressed the button of the coffee and I thought, I can do a little.
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A
And in the heat, when did you realize, like, oh, I'm in contention to take out Macali Soul and win my first Lords of Tram and first major title in kiteboarding.
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C
There was a moment when I was. I mean, at the beginning, I was in first because I landed three tricks, but I landed a kite loop as a third trick. So I was like, okay, that's gonna go away. You know how it is. But after a while, once I saw the girls landing their tricks, I was still in first. I'm like, what if I can actually win this? So I just kept going, you know, like, I thought, it doesn't matter what the others do. I can only do my best. So I just did that and it worked out.
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She was epic, though. Really epic. If you look at her progress in the past year, it's huge issues. Can you remember when she podiumed at Red Bull Megaloop in the Netherlands and she was doing late backs? Left foot forward for the first time? That was a big step up. And she stepped it up big time this time. Contra boogie. Epic late backs, effortless. Epic riding. Left foot forward and right foot forward. Yeah. Huge speed on the landings. Judges loving it. Low kite angle. She was like. She was a clear winner to me.
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B
Yeah. I mean, just the reaction, the emotion. At the end, she still couldn't believe she won it. She seemed to get a lot of gusts. She seemed to be in the right position every. And, you know, to be a champion, you do need the luck to go away. But those landings, you know, 50, 60, 70 meters on the go, like, you know, pedal down, just like holding on. It was impressive to see. I mean, as you said, she had the. The late back, the boogie and the contra boogie were her sort of main moves that she was going for. But, yeah, just such a unbelievably great person to win and someone that we know puts the effort in and works hard. And I think it's great for women's kiteboarding in general that it is mixing up. And, you know, again, I want to talk about Mika here as another winner. Just the respect that Mika showed to come over straight away and said, congratulations, you got it, you know, you deserve this. And I love that when you see proper legends of the sport come over and just absolutely stoked and happy for someone else. Because everyone loves Alyssa.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Worthy winner, very popular winner. And you're right, it was a surprise. A really nice surprise. Not for my fantasy team. I actually sold a lesser and now feel pretty silly about it.
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B
The real pressure on her is going to be how can she come back that up now? You know, she's in a position where she is in the prime spot for a world championship. We're seeing people in this position before Liam Whaley, Pepper Van Urso. Doesn't necessarily mean the Brown's going to be ahead after Mykonos. Anything can happen there. But you'd have to think that a spot like Mykonos will actually really favor Alyssa where it's. It's not flat, it's not choppy. You sort of ride in the. In the sort of between the sort of waves. I would like to see her go on and keep that pressure on, but that's a spot Mika knows really well. So I think that's going to be a tough ass. And I would expect Mika to rise to the occasion. I don't think she's going to want to let another world title slip through her fingers. I can't remember the last time Mika lost. I think it's 20, 23 in freestyle, if I can remember. But it's been a long time and bigger since. Since Mika lost a final.
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A
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Where are you sitting in fantasy, Adrian? I'm just checking mine. I am 45th position.
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B
Oh, I had Jamie for the double points, baby. And the independent. And I also had Finn, so I got some really big scores through those. A little bit let down by Hugo and Lana, but not too much damage. I know fantasy is not really part of it, but it was a huge winner by the way. I mean, the amount of people loving fantasy was crazy. But let's get back to the action here. Zach Adams, another big winner for me. You know, going into this, if you listen to the pre show, I said I really want Zach to find some consistency, you know, he's too hot and cold for me. Oh, man, Zach going in from that semi final, I thought, man, this guy's.
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Yeah, he looked like he could take it.
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Absolutely. He looks so strong, you know. And again, this is just a little bit of experience, you know, big finals. He hasn't been in a lot of these big finals yet. He's been making these sort of semi finals. Big finals is that next sort of thing he needs to get used to. And hopefully he'll learn from that because, yeah, that good kid's not going anywhere. He's actually putting pressure on Jeremy Belando now, you know, is that who's the big dog there? And, and it's great to see and I hope Jeremy thrives on that and starts picking up his game because, you know, we expect a lot from that trap.
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A
Also, Zach Adams high scoring, the highest jump of the day. Sorry, high scoring jump, 26.6 with the Surfer app over 2 meters clear of the next person in seventh place, which interestingly is on the same kite. So the Slingshot NXT is number one and number two from the competition at Lords of Tram 2026 with Jeremy Blando in second place, 24.4. And then Jamie Overbeek with 24.4 as well, just behind in third. So, yeah, NXT on top for jump height, which I thought, I thought it was either going to be the Rebel or the nxt. And those two look like the strongest kites at this event. Honestly, I think you'd have to say this was not a good event for the likes of BrainChild, F1, Trigger, BrainChild and the Brain and the Harlem Peak, just like not getting the height they usually do. And if you listen to the post show, you'll hear Jason Van Der Spee explaining how the Brainchild kites, particularly the Peak, are just so good in kickers. But yeah, just struggling on the flat here.
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B
Interesting stuff moving towards Mykonos, because you wouldn't say Mykonos is a place with kickers, right? I mean, because the waves and the wind are traveling the same angle, arguably that, you know, taking away your line tension. And I remember when we were there last year, Andrea, Jeremy and Lorenzo talking about jumping out of the troughs rather than trying to hit those kickers. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting going to that spot because that's a spot that Jamie knows super well as well. Right. He's been riding there, used to do testing for F1 with Ralph there. He's been there a bunch of times.
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A
No one knows that spot better than Andrea by a mile. That's his spot.
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B
He's not in the running for a world championship, man.
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A
No, he's not. No, he's not. Yeah, you'd have to think it's really between. No, Zach's still in the mix. Zach's still in the mix but it's difficult. But it's really between Jamie, Finn and Leonardo. I do think Leonardo could still easily come away as world champion this year. I don't. We must not write him off.
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B
Coming from third though is difficult because you have to have those two guys in front of you finish back down the pack and a long way down
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A
the pack and the trap. They are the biggest losers from, from this event for sure. No trap on the podium. First time in big air history. No trap on the podium. Major.
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B
The trap's not dead, guys. I mean people are saying, oh, is the trap over? Is the trap Derek? Guys, These kids are 20 years old, man. It's not over. It's just that those guys have opened the door to a bunch of savages who have just come running through and Andrea spoke about it lots times. You know, it's difficult to be a creator versus a follower. You know, creators have to work harder. Followers just copy. You know, once you sort of worked it out, they can start adding to it. So yeah, look, they're just showing them it's possible and the guys are doing it. I don't think pioneers are ever forgotten. You know, the great pioneers are always remembered and the trap has got a lot more history to write in this, in this sport. So to all the people out there who saying that, oh, these guys, the trap's over. I think you're dreaming and I think it's you're rookie to beat at these kids, you know, some other big losers. I'm going to call it the round two exits of Hugo, Jos, Dino, Jason, heel. Yeah, that's just something I didn't see. I just saw those guys go all going a lot deeper.
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A
So crazy though to see Martin and Maxwell going through to round three like they did Martin. Martin beat Andrea.
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B
Well, let's talk about Martin, Aya and Max. I mean just unbelievable performances from these young kids to come in here and ride with, you know, without fear. I remember, I remember came back home from the beach And I was watching as I turned on it was the Andrea Yosui Lorenzo and Maxwell Dahl heat. And you know max's score in fourth place, he's 20.68. That would have won other heats. You know, it was. And I was watching this kid who we've known for a long time and I was thinking, wow, I'm so proud to see this kid out there performing. But not just performing, looking like he deserved to be there. Looking like people were actually going, shit, Max is up. Let's keep an eye on him. Good big scores, great futures for those guys. Massive winners for me. I can't wait to see where Max Martin and I are go in the sport. I mean those, those are the people we're going to be speaking about in a few years FOR Absolutely sure. 100%.
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A
Martin as well, with the first board osmosis in a major competition too.
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B
Absolutely. I mean, Max and Martin are currently still at the World Class Kite Born Academy. I has studied there before. I think it was stronger back in the day. That went through some pretty lean years. But right now, if you're a young kiteboarder and you know you have the means to go there, this is the school to be in. I mean, these guys are turning out great athletes, amazing support systems and I'm, I. Without really knowing too much, I don't think you can produce athletes like this unless you have a great support system around that. If you ever get a chance to speak to Max and Martin, even though they're so young, they're very mature, they are great kids. Yeah, I think that type of schooling breeds that sort of maturity and that maturity comes early. Talking about Jamie Overbeek, the biggest winner by some distance, an incredible performance. I mean, I'm so gutted. I just didn't get to see that live column. That just must have been so great to see redemption.
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A
Can you imagine how silly those Red Bull king of the air folk must feel?
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B
I mean, redemption is the perfect word, man. You know that speech, just the passion and wanting to be there. That total heat, you know, I mean, when I was watching it and they're like, oh, can he get a nine? Can he upgrade to nine? Oh, he's got a nine. He's got. Can he do better? And then the 10, man, I was like doing flick flex around my apartment, dude. I was so, I was so, so pumped up for it. As you said, mate, it was a massive, you, Dakota. And people are going to be looking at thinking, how did this slip through the system? Or is Jamie that bad in Waves and that good on flat water?
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A
No, I don't think so. I think he's really. He's not bad in waves. I think he's really strong on the flat.
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B
Interesting points. Jason and Lorenzo said. And I'll put the post show in the. In the show notes, guys. If you haven't seen that, him just talking the amount of speed that Jamie was getting, did you notice that live how quick Jamie was attacking that box? Is that something that you saw?
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A
Yeah, he's different. He's different to everyone else. Yeah. I also think he looks at a preload pop quite differently. I think he. I think Jamie does two things quite differently. One, he's doing the head flicking thing where he basically like cocks his head all the way back, which puts more weight behind his back leg and also makes him more aerodynamically efficient. He's slipping through the air more, less drag. And I think when he leaves the water for the preload pop, so he's riding along at max pace. Then he does a little hop and I think his approach to that is to build as much pace as possible so that when he re engages his edge, he's putting maximum force through the board and that's why he needs such a stiff, fast board to do that. So I think he's popping harder than anyone else. The other thing I noticed technique wise from the whole competition was I really felt as though people were popping and then like continuing a trajectory in the air. So as they're rising in the air, they're continuing to go left. If you look at the angles that we got on on the post show, you'll just see them going so far to the left. And what that is doing is you're basically coming around the side of the wind window like amateur kite borders. Jump straight up, don't they? Straight downwind and then do their loop. These guys don't jump straight up. They jump in the direction that they're already riding and that shifts. When you do the kite loop, your kite loop is not going through the middle of the window, it's going towards the edge. And I think that gives you far more control and far more ability to utilize the whole win window. You're getting less yank, but also your kite's already in a better position to then heli loop and get a controlled landing. And that was a really big change this year. And Jamie did that better than anyone else. Zach Adams also doing that. Insane. Well, those are. That's really how Jamie was good. Obviously he's amazing in the air in the post show. He talks about his abilities to do a massive bag of tricks and that let him adapt. And no matter how he popped what happened, he would be able to do something world class. That made a big difference. Yeah. Jamie Overbeak. Just everyone, no one there, like, was unhappy that Jamie won. Everyone was buzzing for Jamie because everyone knows the story. Everyone knows he was robbed at King of the Air. So this felt good to everyone. You should have seen the Harlem crew going absolutely wild for him. That clip's in the poster. They're all jumping up and down. 10, 10, 10. shouting@ the. At the judges tower. It was electric, you know, And Jamie is unsigned, doesn't have a salary from a. From a kite brand. He just beat everyone in the world, mate.
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B
He just didn't beat them. He destroyed them. He crashed two tricks all day. He went 26 for 28. 26 for 28 in this event. He had a crash in, in round three, a crash in the semi final, but he went seven, four, seven, six for seven. Six or seven, seven for seven. I mean, 28.83 out of 30. I would be. I don't want to say that's going to be very, very difficult to beat. You'd have to get another 10 to really. To really beat that score. You'd have to have 2 tens to beat it. But. And the way these guys dish out tens, that's probably not going to happen. It's probably the most complete final ever. The most dominant final. I mean, dude, he's winning by five points.
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A
Most dominant final. I think so. I think so.
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B
On three tricks, to win by five points is just. It's outrageous stuff.
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A
Yeah. And you heard Zach, you heard Zach, like, say, what are we supposed to do? What were we supposed to do?
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B
His popularity in that Dutch scene is incredible now, right? Everyone respects him, you know, even at Kingy there, they were like, man, we just cannot believe it. And the Dutch, you know, we even spoke to, when I spoke to Kimo, he's like, we've got these Dutch groups and we couldn't believe that he's not in. He's. He. Even Chemo said he's the guy we look to lead the charge with, you know, and this is just a statement to say, guys, man, if he could go on to win a world championship and Mykonos, which is. You absolutely could, man. I think that would be a very, very, very popular winner.
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A
Imagine. Imagine. I hope, yeah, I've got a Team Overbeak hat. I was given it by Daddy Overbeak. And I shall be wearing it every day until Mykonos.
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B
Roda. Is it pronounced Roda? The board.
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A
Rude, rotor, O, O, D, E. I think it's rota.
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B
I saw Jason Montreal's got a video coming out. He's testing it. I'd be very interested.
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A
Get him on the podcast. Yeah, get him on the podcast.
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B
Well, we're gonna have Jamie on in the next few days, if not on Monday, talking about winning this and everything else he's been up to in the last few days. But we'll definitely dive into that, into that board, because Jamie is very particular at boards as well, you know, so that's really interesting to see him so settled. And it seems to be connecting massively with that kite. Yeah, he just looks really happy on that Rebel. I wonder if he'll take the Rebel for Mykonos or he'll go to the Harlem Peak.
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A
I think it will be Harlem Peak. If I had to guess. I just think it's better in. In waves. I think that's where it really comes in. And think about it, the Harlem Peak, they would have tested a lot there. That's an Aaron Hadlow stomping ground. So I really think it will be in tune there. But, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. And how interesting is it to have someone like Jamie who's able to pick whatever. That's so, so epic to have someone like him being such an opinion leader now. But sports never had this.
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B
Let's do another winner. Our good buddy baby shark, Yosui Son Ferreira. I mean, what a comeback. A kid who's been on these kites for a week. I said in the pre show, guys, don't expect much. He hasn't been riding his kites. Holy shit. He just turned it up. He. I think he just thrives on when he gets some momentum. And like you said a thousand times, he just seems to be able to stick landings. He's got that already already on this kite. He doesn't even know very well his ability to land and stick it. I'm just sitting there watching at home, and I look up, baby Shark's doing this thing. He's halfway through and he's looking at the crowd, just pumping his arm up. The crowd. I feel like saying to him, dude, just concentrate on sticking it.
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A
No, but he is always going to. He's never. He's never not landing. He's the only rider in the world that can do that. And me not be like, that's risky. It's not risky for him. He is gonna land even when he
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B
got Pulled out with Crazy Gus. He's still, he's still shaking his hand up, loving.
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A
Yeah, he doesn't, he doesn't give a.
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B
When Baby Shark's back, guys, I'm telling you, he brings that little air of excitement. What, what was it like to be around him? And did you notice the big change from years gone by when he was maybe a little bit less mature?
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A
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Me and him had a good chat and yeah, he's more focused. I think working with that mental coach he's got. Looks brilliant. He seems really good. And yeah, I think you can see the maturity in him refusing to go out that morning. You know, that is like, I have principles, I have integrity. And that doesn't come without being grown up. And I think last year grew him up a lot. Also epic for Air Rush, Alex Pastor turns up. He's a new owner of the brand. Alex Pastor, freestyle world champion legend. He is a legend of kiteboarding. Was at a big air event. It was kind of surreal, honestly. And yeah, when all that, you know, controversy was going down, I just said to him like, you should have, like you are the most qualified man here. So tell him what to do and go forth and do it. And that's what happened. So epic for Baby Shark and Alex to be working together. Cool. For Air Rush. Air Rush. New logo, new owner, new rider. Like, let's go. I think it's epic. We want more rider owned brands in the sport and yeah, we're all for it. So we're very pro Air Rush. We've always been pro Baby Shark, but yeah, pro Air Rush.
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B
Poor Jason, he jumps on that kite and makes it look good.
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A
Honestly, I stood with Jason Van der Spee as we're watching the first baby shark because it is interesting. Like, you know, that kite is Jason's and Jason was looking at it and just went, It was crack up.
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B
Right? Let's talk road to pro Colin, because that comes out this Friday. What can you tell us about episode one?
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A
I mean, we've already said this a lot, haven't we? But I'll say it again, it is the most stupid kite boarding video ever to be released. It's really, really ridiculous and we're proud of it. And yeah, there's some shocking stuff in it. There's stuff you're not, not expecting. And yeah, just, just you're gonna see, you're gonna see the bits on Instagram and then if you do have a subscription, go, go watch it. And yeah, nothing, nothing myself else to say. I guess it's worth a mention that that entire only supported by subscriptions. We cannot go and do that stuff without it. So yeah, you viewers are making that happen and fueling series like that and fueling nine Lives and fueling our event coverage. So yeah, the brands are nothing to do with this, which is evident because no one would be happy with that. What we've done that would never get through.
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B
So what's the pitch again? No, yeah, absolutely. Guys, if you are playing Fantasy Raleigh and I will do another Fantasy wrap up just because there is a lot of stuff happening at Fantasy at the moment. I know there's been a lot of questions on the emails and we, we face some issues and we're going to address all that on a video podcast. Those video podcasts at the moment will will remain free for Fantasy. Just if you have any questions we'll try and address all that stuff on Monday or Tuesday next week but I'll let you know on the social media when that comes out. All right Colin, let's finish off with our last winner. Let' about the win games Win games
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A
were giving you the data and information in the heat. How useful is that to have it on your watch to know what place you are in the heat, what you need, what you're scoring.
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E
I mean previous competitions you've generally always needed a guy standing or someone standing on the side giving you scores, shouting at you, shouting at you. This time it was on your watch, you could sit at the bank, you had your place, you had your score and your competitor score and you had your ranking. So it is actually awesome to have everything just at the flick of a wrist. It was fantastic.
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A
So you knew what you needed.
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E
Exactly.
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A
Yeah.
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E
And also the cool part was if someone, if some the guy before you did something that scored quite high, obviously you could see what trick it was and you could see what it scored. So you know that if you do that exact same trick you will get that score. It was actually quite informative to have your competitors scores on your wrist.
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A
O what about, what about the battle thing?
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B
I need to dive into that but obviously a lot of stuff happening over the weekend. I never really had a chance. Yeah. What happened with the Michael Shipper and Lewis battle? Because they spoke about that quite a few times on the, on the live stream.
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A
It's epic. It's epic. So next time I see you, Adrian, we're both going to have wing games on our little watch and we're going to go out and it's going to be very clear that I am far superior in every regard, because I'm going to just melt you down and then stir you up into a frenzy and then just pour you out onto the floor. Because in real time, guys, you can jump, and the other person gets notified if you've beaten them. It's so good. It's so good. Yeah. The Win Games app. Go look at it. I actually am. I'm really excited for this. I'm gonna just ruin people. I'm gonna ruin people.
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B
Depends who you're riding with.
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A
Well, of course.