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The Know youw Gear Podcast the Know youw Gear Podcast is brought to you by Patreon Members Channel members and viewers who like and subscribe. Thank you for making this possible. Hey everyone. Welcome to the Know youw gear podcast, episode 434. I hope everybody had a fantastic week and is ready for some some guitar talk, some fun. We'll have some fun today. Paul says. Hey Phil, great tour of the purest Court factory. Really looking forward to the other vids of the larger factor. Also happy to hear more stories insight on the trip. Indonesia can be quite wonderful. So if you guys didn't see we released two videos this week. One was the new Herman Lee Se signature guitar. We'll talk about that for a second. And then of course, because the bulk of their guitars were released this week and I could release the PRS SE factory footage or tour footage because keep in mind most of the footage was of guitars that hadn't come out. So of course I couldn't release that video. So that's why I really released it right after that. There is still more footage from that factory of more things that are not out yet. But some of that will be January of next year. So that ain't coming out until January. However, the Court Factory, if I said if that video gets 5, 000 likes, we'll release it early. I don't know where it's at right now, but if you haven't watched it, if you want to watch that Factory video and give it a like, it'll help me, you know, kind of release the next one a little early because that tells me you guys want it. Otherwise don't worry, it's coming out as scheduled as normal. The there is so much footage, more footage to come. There's more factory information and tours. I took seven hours of footage the entire trip, so seven hours of footage. So some of it will probably never see the light of the day. Actually I know for a fact some of it will never see the light of day because it was like hey, that's off the record or hey, that can't be shown. And like usually like some some inside process, what have you. But that leads me to the second thing which is I did the the Herman Lee Se. There's one behind me right there. Cleo guitar and boy, did the Internet have a reaction to that. I kind of predicted that reaction. That's why I talked about it in my video. Just let you know a lot of people are like speculating about the price. Why is it $2,000? So if you haven't heard the new Paul Reed Smith Cleo SE is $2,000. Well, first of all, if you watch the PRS SE factory tour, you could probably deduce a lot of the reasons why it's expensive. It's definitely not going to be a thousand dollar guitar. So if you guys haven't paid attention, I did last October. October 8th. Today is the. What, what is the date today? I think it's the 9th, isn't it? Let me look at my calendar. I don't know why my calendar is not up anymore. It's always up and then, oh, and now it's not. So today's the 10th. So this is interesting. So October 8th of 2024, I did a video and it's still there. You can watch it. It's called PRS's most expensive SE Guitar where I talked about the new custom 24 with the piezo system that was 1499 and that was the most expensive SE a year ago. Since then there is now two SES that are more expensive than that. The Herman Lee is now $2,000. So you know, I, I don't know for sure. Like I can't tell you that this is for sure for sure. But when I was discussing with the guys at the PRSSE factory, the price they told me was $2,200. So interesting enough, it went down 200. Now I know that's not gonna make anybody change their mind about anything but, but it was going to be 22. In fact, if you're one of my patron members, I talked about it recently talking about the price being 22. So when they released the price last minute at 1999, I was a little shocked by that. So I was actually obviously shocked when I heard was $2,000. Now. So you know, I've had the SE for quite a while. Just to give you an idea, I've had this SE for months and months and months. So. And when it was first introduced to me, they didn't have a price yet and the speculation was eighteen hundred dollars. That was the price. So let me give you some reasoning because I saw a lot of people trying to figure out like why is it $2,000? Why is it $2,000? I'm not going to validate the price. I don't sell these things. So I don't, I don't have to care about that. I just thought it would be hopefully make you understand a couple things. The first thing I've told you guys this years ago on the channel is that normally, normally Import guitars are 25% to 35% the price of the US equivalent. So let's go to Sweetwater. Okay, so, perfect example. We'll get out our little calculator. So what is that? So we know that the original Herman Lee was, let's say, $6,900. So $6,900. So if we're using that math, 25% of that price would put the SE at $1,725. So that is. Now keep in mind, sometimes the 25 is also 35%. So sometimes it's 35% the price. Let's do 35% price two, and I'll. I'll back into that because I think it will be enlightening to you guys. So times 35%. What is wrong with me? Why can't I click something simple? Okay, here it is. So $2,415. So somewhere in between those numbers, 25 and 35% is usually where they land. Most of the time, it's 25%. The price Epiphone kind of follows that rule. So, of course, like, think about this. They make a $4,000, you know, R9. You know, then the R9 Epiphone was $1,000. So that's usually how it worked. So, and then now I've noticed over the last few years, it's really floating more towards the 35%. But now we have a new factor, which is the tariffs. Tariffs definitely took a part in the pricing of the new SEs. Now, I don't know if PRs passed those tariff increases to you guys. I don't know if they absorb some of them. I didn't ask them. But I do know that this. The week before I went to Indonesia, like, literally, like days before I got to Indonesia, the new tariffs rolled out. And so there's also some confusion about that. Some people say the tariffs got thrown out and they were 20% or there's a 19% tariff. That is almost accurate. The tariff was 8% before, so it didn't add another additional 20% or 19%. It added basically another 10%, you know, or 11%. So the. There was an. So when you guys. I saw a lot of math in the comment sections. Well, if you do the math and the 20% tariff, and I'm like, well, that's great. Except for. Even if you're doing that math, that math's not right because they already had half of that almost was a tariff already. So. So essentially, yeah, a tariff could have been a. A factor in that pricing Although I thought it was interesting. This is why I say we don't know if they pass the price on because if you look at the uk, I saw their price was basically the same price as theirs with the exchange. And as far as I know, there's no tariff from Indonesia to UK that I know of. But I don't know, I don't keep track all that stuff. So I don't know. I will tell you that something that is not in the PRSSE video because I just didn't think it was that interesting. But now after the two videos came out, maybe it was interesting. We were in a room. You see it for a second in the main video. If you watch the, the PRSSE tour video, you see I'm in a room with Jack and there's thousands and thousands of boxes of guitars in this warehouse. What we, what we do have footage of and I did talk about, and I was cleared to show you guys. I just didn't think it was interesting was all those boxes, all those rows, they were in rows. That's all you have to know is if you go back to that video, just look at boxes of guitars, they're like in four, you know, four guitars to box and there's box in rows, like literally rows of them. Each row is a different country. So like one row is going Japan, one row is going to the Czech Republic, one row is going to Brazil, one row was going to Germany, one row was going to the United States, one row, you know, was to Mexico. So something interesting is that they don't all just go to the US and then filter back out again. Some of them go direct to the countries they're going to. So just stuff to know. But essentially I saw some people try to break down the components and the prices and stuff. And, and here's the reality of it. You can do that. You can try and say, okay, there was some, there's some Fluence pickups and they're 350 bucks and there's a Floyd Rose 1000. And they made some new jigs and they made some new parts. But ultimately I think you're trying too hard. If you just don't understand that they made a guitar, they don't expect it to be a gangbuster seller. I don't think they looked at this guitar. Not that that's the impression I got. Like Herman Lee's new, you know, Cleo is going to be the new Silver Sky. I just don't think they thought they had a mass market appeal like that. This is really Just they wanted to do something unique and crazy. It's fun. And I'm probably going to get. And I don't want. I'm not gonna get in trouble. I'm gonna get in trouble. I know it. You know, casually having fun at a dinner. Jack told me at Pure Ass, he goes, I don't even know if we'll ever break even on the pr, on the SE or on the. I'm sorry, on the Clio. And he MEANT Both the U.S. and the. And the import. In other words, I. It wasn't a woe is me like, wow, we're not even gonna make money on this. People should be happy. That's not what he was saying. He was basically implying, like, this was a lot of fun. And the fun was definitely a big factor of it because it's interesting, it gets people excited and. But it's not like I said, I don't think they're going to sell thousands and thousands and thousands of these. So that's all. That's just my take on it. I think it's just everybody overthought it. The reality is, you know, I told you guys a couple months ago that you're going to be shell shocked. I have at least five more deep dives before the end of the year that will be just as shocking, if not more shocking to you. When you see the prices on some guitars that I have videos coming out on, I've just. Like, you guys, I was like, you know, they send the guitar, I start doing the deep dive and then I go, what's this? Like 800, 900? And then I have to email them real quick like, hey, I know the guitar is not out, but do you have a price on this? And they're like sixteen hundred dollars. I'm like, holy crap. Okay, that's not what I thought. So I think we're going to see a lot of that. And it's from everywhere. It's coming from every direction. So it's just what it is. So anyways, any questions? I was just curious. One thing that you guys should know is that I've seen the Clio built down to the basic component. I have, like I said, I have hours and hours of footage. I have, literally, I know every detail of how the guitar was put together. So if anyone has any questions during the show today, feel free to ask them because I'll answer them. I'm not restricted on anything. I'm allowed to talk about it. Just obviously some footage was. Is not, you know, privileged because they don't Want not because they don't want you to see it. There's just certain things I'm sure they don't want competitors to see. And that's a real common thing in the industry. When I go to factories, they don't want everybody to figure out what they figured out. Brian says, I suspect Paul hates this thing with a passion. My thing about Paul is I don't think Paul does anything he doesn't want to do. He is definitely a, you know, a unmovable force. He is very difficult. No, that's not. Does that sound mean? It sounds me the way I say it. He is very stubborn. That is my assessment of him and every conversation I've ever had with him. He's, he's. He will, he will. I've had him say twice to me in my travels with him. I'll ask him a question, you know, hey, you ever thought of this? And he'll say no. Like real, like mean, like that. Like, no. That's my answer right now. Let me think about it. I'm like, okay, so yeah, it's possible, but I don't think so. I don't think any of those guitars that get built, I think it was. They wanted to do something crazy and. And they did. And it is the most crazy PRs that they've done, I think to date. And I think it's going to open up opportunities for them. The reality is this, those pickups in that bridge and some of those features are driving portents of that price point. So you can imagine what they could do with that body design or variat. I mentioned to Jack one night there that I told him that in 87, one of the things I thought, the smartest things they ever did in 1987, when Ibanez came out with the Stevie Gem, they also released the RG series, the RG550s and stuff. And it was a really cool idea. Like the concept of like, hey, do you want the Stevie Jam? It's all decked out and it was. And so you guys know, if you guys don't know this, a Stevie Gem, when it came out, it was $1,399. So for funsies, anyone will look that up. Exactly what the. What that is factored with inflation Today, I think it's 3,000 plus would be my guess. So interestingly enough, when the Steve by Jim came out, they also released the RG550s. Kind of like this idea, like in case you didn't want to Steve by Jim. And also if you didn't have that kind of scratch, you got something a little less expensive. And I told Jack, I said it'd be really cool if there was a Herman Lee kind of inspired version of the Cleo and something like that. Like what Steve I did. I think that would be the coolest thing ever. And I'll tell you this, he was definitely closed lipped. He didn't say anything. He did smile at me though, when I said I would really like for me personally as someone who's played both the original Cleo, the Core and the sea. And it's again what I told Jack that guitar that I'm pointing behind me with either one core or Esee with the regular pickups instead of the Fishman's and with a regular tremolo and not the Floyd, that that's the perfect guitar for me from. From prs. I'd be super happy with that guitar in every way. It's just, I'm not really, you know, it's the Floyd's fine and the. And the Fishman's are fine. It's just I would rather like a traditional PRS bridge tremolo and traditional PRS pickups. So he said, he smiled. So. And then El Duderino says, hey, that was brutal because top end Ibanez RG 770s were 799 and that was way jacked up in 1990. So. Yeah, so all right. He said 1499 might as well have been a billion dollars to me as when I was a kid. Same here. Absolutely. $1,000. Oh, $1,000. When I started playing guitar, that was a million for sure. Jeremy says, hey, why does every bolt on se other than the artist models all have a wide thin neck? I'm not a fan. That is. So, you know, that is. They do that because of. And I can get official answers from them if I ask them. But I'm just giving you my, my perception of being a dealer for them for many years. You know, reversing their engineering, their guitars on videos and of course, you know, talking to them. I think what they do is they just pick all the hottest selling combinations and they go, let's do that. So in other words, like, there was a time that PRs used to offer like a wide thin and a pattern regular neck. You know, these. They used to have two different necks. They used to have multiple options on guitars. Right? And on all the guitars. And over time it just became like everybody got a tremolo on a, on a custom 24 and everybody got a hardtail on a custom 22. And everybody got the pattern regular. When I say everybody, I just mean majority. Majority rules. So over time, they just kind of assign those, like, let's just do that. This is. Make it. This is what they want. And it's kind of like, yeah, some people be unhappy, but you can't make everybody happy, you know, so it's. It's too expensive. Like I said, that's. It goes back into the Kiesel business model of just having so many options that everybody gets interchanged. You become a semi custom shop. And it's really hard to keep that and build any kind of momentum behind it. Andrew says, hey, Phil, I have a Mexican Stratocaster standard Telecaster, sorry, Telecaster, I wish to sell. I had installed Fender noiseless pickups in it. Should I remove them and sell it separately or list them and the original pickups together? You'll get more if you take them back out and put the original pickups in it. In my opinion, what happens with the noiseless pickups is personally, if you want to sell the guitar faster. So this is the way I would do it if I was doing it. If I wanted more money, I would take the. The noiseless pickups out, put the original pickups out and sell them separately. Sell the guitar with the original pickups, and sell the noiseless by themselves. You'll net more profit, but your time is involved. You have to think about that. However, if you just want a fast sell, what you have is a very fast sale. Because if you list that guitar with the, with the noise of pickups, but the originals with it, I told you that's like a bonus. Everybody loves that. I, I think every one of us right now, when you see a guitar, it's like, you know, like Gibson Les Paul is a perfect example. You're looking at a Gibson Les Paul and it says Gibson Les Paul Paul upgraded to blah, blah, blah pickups. And then you're like, oh, even if they're good, like wolf tone pickups or, you know, Lawler something really cool. And you're very excited. But it's really exciting when it says upgraded to Lawler pickups, original pickups in the case. And you're like, nice, nice. That's the bonus. Because now, now you can put the guitar back to stock if that's something you're interested in and, and. Or have the guitar is better. It's. It's. Everything's better with and isn't it? It's like instead of. Or it's. And it's not. You can pick or Right. The other thing you can do that I've seen people do, and it has a good effect and there's a compromise between the two is you could list the guitar and say, hey, Fender American Standard or, sorry, Fender Mexican Standard Telecaster with upgraded noiseless pickups, right? And then you can say like, you know, for whatever, $10 more or $50 more, whatever will include the original pickups. Two or something like that, right? Like, you know, come up with a compromise. So. Or say like, hey, I'll sell it to you for the, with the original pickups and take this, the, the noiseless out. Or for $50 more, I'll include both sets. Right. Give them an option. But, but yeah, like I said, you're not going to get the money if you just leave the pickups in there. It just doesn't work that way. Okay. Chris says, hey, Phil, wondering with court guitars, do you think they will start separating more affordable and more premium tiers themselves and give you a red hot. And give it a red hot go. Okay, so the Court Factory video is very important. Okay? Uh, once you see my Court Factory video, it's not gonna be like anything you guys have seen before. Um, now keep in mind, I have to get this approved by court. This is my agreement. You know, obviously, when I say approve what I do and say, that's not the problem. There, um, there is certain little things, like I'll give you example of things that I've been already told, like, you know, hey, let's, let's not put that in there. Something like maybe like the setting on a machine, right? Or when they mention how long they do a certain process, and you might seem like it's so what, you know, but to them it's like, hey, man, we learned this from, you know, years or months or years or days or whatever, years or months of trial and error. And it's not fair to have somebody else watch our video and then go, oh, we've been setting it to this and let's try their setting. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, that's working better for us. You know, they're not here to fix their competitors, so to speak, even though they are by just posting what you've seen already. So the court video is going to help you understand all of the price structuring, all the logic. Think about this. The title for the court video is set. It's the Court Factory in Indonesia Has a Secret. And I'm going to tell you the secret because it'll explain all to you. Is that a teaser? Yeah, I hope that, hope that teaser. All right, Kent wants to know, are Eastwood guitars worth 1500 dollars? Plus they have some really cool old style guitars fashioned like the city styles. It's all, dude, what you want to pay? We all know that answer, right? It's worth what you're willing to pay for it. If you're not willing to pay full price, buy it used or get a deal. You know, I have this discussion all the time, you know, when somebody goes, I wouldn't Pay, you know, $1500. I'm like, well what would you pay? Twelve hundred dollars? Well then that's why they make them used. Well, they don't make them used, but that's why you can get them used. So it's, it's, you know, I, I mean, I, I'll tell you what, I, there's guitars that I own behind me right now that I really wanted, but I didn't want so much to pay premium for. I recently just bought a guitar and I'm pretty sure I overp to make you guys upset. Like, I'm not gonna tell you the number, but just say it's enough. Like it's enough. And here's what's crazy. I had to do this because not, I didn't have to do this. I wanted the guitar really bad. And the person was asking what I felt was a ridiculous price and it was based on some other ridiculous prices that weren't selling. And the problem I'm having is, is like he had exactly what I wanted. It was exactly, it was exact color, you know, every detail, everything, all the things with it, everything he had. And you know, and then I had to do what you guys have to do. I had to weigh out like, is it worth this insane premium that he's asking? And so what I did in that case is I reached out to him as I always do with you. You know, you guys know, I said, hey, would you take this offer? And so, you know, that offer I gave him was way more than I wanted to pay, but I could, I just couldn't throw out the real number because I just thought, you know, if he's here, he's probably, maybe he's willing to haggle, but he's not going to go to where I think he needs to go. And he responded very quickly, within seconds, no, I don't want to, I'm not going to give a deal. He's like, I'm getting a lot of people are interested in this guitar. And so I, you know, I did what you sometimes do. I let the guitar gods decide what happened. I didn't. I didn't buy it at the full price. I just said, hey, if it's meant to be, I'll find another one. Or the price will come down, maybe. So no one will buy this and he'll lower the price. And maybe I'm wrong and he sells in five minutes. But whatever it is, they'll let the guitar gods decide what happens. And here's what happened. Two, maybe three days later, he. I just got a message and saying, hey, I'll take your price. And I'm like, all right. And so I. I bought it. So the reality is sometimes you want to pay more than something's worth. Because I could not sell this for what I paid. I can tell you right now, there's just no way. No one would pay me that for it because no one's paid. No one's has paid as much as I've paid for it. Now, don't. Don't get carried away. I'm not talking about thousands of dollars, but I am talking about a couple hundred. Few hundred. So like I said, if I was to sell this guitar right now, it would be immediately enough of a loss that I could enjoy some cool gear that I would lose out of that. So I really had to decide not only did I want it that for that price, but also, I know I can't sell it if I don't like it or if I don't want it. So I knew what I was getting into. But that's the whole point of this, right? Sometimes you overpay, sometimes you underpay. Not everybody. Some people always have to win. They always have to get the best deal. They always have to get a deal. I just can't fixate on that, guys. I'm sorry. I can't buy everything just because it's a good deal. I tried that for a few years, especially when I was finally starting to make enough money to where I could buy things I wanted, but not really buy things I wanted. And I would buy things that I'd buy the deal version of what I wanted to find that I only just got rid of it. So yard but says, which guitar? I can't tell you which guitar because I bought this guitar for a very special video. This is a video that no one will care about. I won't get any views and I don't care. I just wanted to make the video just something about the whole thing. It's kind of like the Moonstone Moon Pie guitar video in that same concept of like, hey, you know what? Now that lucked out. That worked out for me. That got huge views, which. Shocking. But. But this, I just don't know if it has that kind of appeal. But I think it'll be a fun video and I think a lot of you that like the channel will enjoy it. I. I definitely enjoyed it. So. So that's my answer to your question. Is, is the guitar worth it? I don't know. You know, there's. There's the two arguments. Let's do the two arguments for fun. Let's have them. Let's argue the, the Herman Lee argument because it's been all week and it's fresh. Some people say for $2,000, I can get a really good guitar. Well, no crap. For $2,000, you can buy a used or even a demo version, CE24 that you just saw me play made in the USA. For $2,000 or less, you can buy a Keisel Kyber instead of that with stainless steel frets. I mean, there's always better bargains. There's better deals, those, and I might even argue, I might think those are better guitars. But really, really what it comes down to is if you really want the guitar you want, you want the guitar you want, and it's nice. If it's not the price, that sucks. But, yeah, to me, I've said this a long time ago. I don't know if I've said this in the recent last few years of the podcast. It's not a deal if you didn't want it before it was a deal. These are just those isms I say, you know, like, the money runs out before the deal's ever due. Those are things that I just picked up over the years that people said to me, and it just stuck with me. It's like, you know, yeah. When like, like that guitar that day, the guy's like, you know, I'm like, you know, there always will be another deal. There was always another guitar. So I don't have to stress or, you know, if I, if this, if I miss this opportunity, there's another. There's always another. And same thing when it comes to, you know, bargains. And also the same thing when you see a guitar and it's on sale and it's a blowout or an amp or a pedal, this is a perfect example. They'll go, hey, did you see these amps are 50% off. I'm like, well, I didn't want one before, so just because now it's really cheap. Doesn't mean I want it. So I like, said it's not a deal if I didn't want it before. So like a perfect example is even as silly as something is a color. Like, let's say I always wanted a red. Where's it at? There you go. A red Firebird from Gibson. And all of a sudden there's a deal on a black one. I'm like, well, it's not really a deal to me because I wanted a red one. And so that's, that's, that's it. Happy good thing. Says, hey, the heart wants what the heart wants. Isn't that what you say when you like, dump somebody, Sorry it didn't work out, the heart wants it. Is that what you say when you're like packing up the guitar that's going on reverb? You're like, I'm sorry, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I just thought I was a, I thought I was into this, into your style of guitar, just not. Maybe that's what we need just given the guitar. The old. It's not you, it's me. You were really good at guitar. I just don't think I could play at the level that you could appreciate. So I gotta, I gotta move you on. Michael Yizzy says, hey, I love the SE Factory. What was the green guitar that Jack Higginbotham was holding? I have no idea. I'd have to go back and look at it. Sadly enough, I will tell you this, that there's are probably guitars in that footage that are probably secret to some degree. I will tell you that PRS approved the video and I did really a good diligent job to make sure there wasn't anything in there that's leaked or new. And I, I But if something got through. But I'm, I'm sure even they were like, you know, sir, they got. Understand there's guitars there that also somebody was talking about some of the, There's a lot of guitars with matching headstocks. There are guitars there at the factory that are specialty for special dealers. Like they ordered a special run of them. There's also guitars for just select markets that, you know, it's just like Fender. Like Japan gets a special se, right? We get a special SE here in the United States. So they do a little bit of that stuff too. So I, I don't know. I'll try and look and tell you what it is. This is a question I can't answer, so I'll just read. T Bone says, hey, Phil, do You think the SE Silver sky is on par with the Fender American entry level? I. I don't know. You know what's funny about that is I would, I can just tell you I prefer the, the Fender American Strat. You know, I've had the SE Silver Sky, I've had the Core Silver sky or the, the, the USA one. I've had two, so, you know, I've had two of the cores and one se and I thought they were great guitars. And I think I told you guys this, but at the end of the day, it's John Mayer's guitar, you know. And I would say the same thing about Herman Lee's like core guitar. At the end of the day, that's Herman Lee's guitar. Like I wouldn't have picked half that stuff. And I said the same with the Silver Sky. The Silver sky is a fantastic guitar. I'm not gonna argue the quality. Like when I pick up the Silver sky se, even the SE and I play it, I go, there's no bones to pick about the neck or anything like that. It's just if I had a guitar, let's say like one line I'm pointing at right there, maybe I'd pick a 12 inch radius like I did on that one right there. For those listening later, I'm just picking, I'm pointing at my Delos and I would put humbuckers in it that can coil split on the neck only. See what I'm saying? Like it's a great guitar, but I think one day I think it'll become a classic. And that's one thing I think about when I pick up a Gibson Les Paul. Like the Les Paul I'm pointing at behind me, or I don't have a Strat on the wall today, which is odd, but they're like the Jazz Master behind me, the vintage Jazz Master reissue. Those guitars are iconic and they're classics. And when you pick them up, I don't really necessarily play them and go, oh, I wish they had this. I think this is how it was and this is fun. This takes me down a road. I enjoy this, but it's not what I would pick, you know. So that's the thing with the Silver sky, where the Fender Strat is mostly what I would pick. I mean, the 12 inch radius is more of my preference, but I have a Fender strat with a 12 inch radius, so you guys know. But also the nine and a half's I have don't really bother me too much either. Just like the PRS 10 inch radius doesn't bother me. I just don't like the fretboards too round. Seven and a quarter is okay, but it's not my. My prerogative. And like 20 like the Herman Lee, it's not. It's okay, but it's again, not my prerogative. I'm fine with it. The John producer has a 16, I think, and some of the Ibanez have 16. I'm fine with it. But again, it's not what I would pick and how I know that is. Speaking of keels, I've ordered a bunch of keys over the years and I've never picked any of those type of things. So Paul says. Hey, Phil, regarding the Clio, how does the bolt on versus the set neck alter the feel and sound of it all? The. The problem is they're they different guitars. To me, they are totally different guitars. They're totally different. The necks, the neck carve, like I said in the video, are very similar. They're almost identical in the way that they feel in the carve. But the fit and finish on the core is just really, really detailed. That core is like a private stock. I still stick with it. I said it when that came out. I. I have it in the other room. It. It. It's like a private stock. It doesn't feel or look like any of my other, you know, production pure S core guitars. It feels like when I pick up Prav stocks and it just. Very minute details have been really done really well. First of all, the Tremolos feel massively different. I. As I told you on the core, I'm not a big fan of the stop bar system on the back and how stiff it is. It wasn't my big, you know, my big thing. The output jack on the core is kind of odd. You know, there's a different feel. Andre Flood said in a video on his review it. I didn't know he was reviewing it and I kind of wish I knew did. I would have sent him some stuff. By the way, Andre, if you ever see this next time, maybe let me know. I would have sent you footage. You could add cool footage and stuff because, you know, everything they approved, I could have gave you. You know, maybe you could have used some footage I had that I didn't use and vice versa. But anyways, he said it best. I really think the core is much, much nicer. It's almost like a work of art, right, compared to the se. But if you asked me out of all the two, how much have I played either one? I have massive. I've 10x the. The se over the. The core. It's just way more. You know, there's almost a point to the core that it's too nice, if that makes any sense. Like, I, you know, like, I'm just a little too. I'm. I'm like a little too much country and not enough rock and roll. Whatever the joke is, right? Like a. I'm just, you know, a little more baloney and less caviar, right? And so that's the problem. The guitar is super nice, but it's so nice that when I play it, I go, wow, this is a work of art. But I think the SE is just more practical. I don't know. It's. Again, I don't know if any of this stuff's making any sense, but hey, I like saying it. Let's. Let's. Let me switch around here. See? Happy good thing says, hey, any Velo Ses in the future. Love how they care about quality. So I won't tell you. Obviously, any guitars that are coming, that's would be a violation of the agreement I gave them, which I wouldn't share with you guys what's coming. But I feel okay almost to imply what I know is not coming. I saw Noella Ses, so, you know, there and I. And so I'd be very clear. Like, I said, stuff I'll never be able to show you, but I was. They took me like in the. In the prototyping room, the design areas. I mean, I saw a lot of the future. I mean, I saw guitars like they showed that will be like 2027, maybe in 2028 kind of things. And I'm telling you that I did not see a velocity. Does that mean it won't come? I don't know. You know, Jack is a working machine, man. He is. He is. Little fun fact about Jack. I always like Jack. I don't know what it is. Just the first time I ever talked to Jack, I just felt like he was really down to earth and really nice and he's got a vibe. Like he's really smart and he knows what he's doing, but he's casual. And I've experienced this with certain people throughout my life. You know, the kind of person where you meet them. I've had this experience and you hang out with them for a while and then, you know, one day they mention something and you go, wait, what? And they go, yeah, I'm a rocket scientist during the day. You didn't know that you're like, no, I didn't know you're a rock scientist. You totally seem like a normal person that just. I thought. I don't know. You thought like a regular person person. I didn't know. You're like a super rocket scientist. So what I mean by that is Jack kind of like, here's a funny story. I've known Jack for years. I know that he's really talented. I know that he's basically the first draft, not one of the first employees at prs. And I'll never want to ruin the story for you guys, but there's an amazing story about basically. Basically, he tells it much better. But basically he started working for PRS for a free piece of pizza. That's basically. Paul gave him some pizza and he was like, hey, he's feeding me. I might as well work for him kind of thing. That's not the story, but that's kind of the story. And so I gotta tell you a funny story that I was talking to someone who's also. I'll just tell you how it was Mike Clem from CEO of Sweetwater. We're talking and I mentioned, if you watch that interview, I mentioned how Jack basically was a sander. He sanded guitars in 1985 at PRS, and now he's the COO and he's running the SE and he's designing SEs and he's doing all this stuff. And I said, he's really smart. And then I said sarcastically to Mike, to Mike, I said, jack is the kind of guy, it seems like, I think he's way smarter. He's way more. He's got way more going on, but it's just not about him all the time. So he's just kind of chill, cool guy. And then Mike goes, ask him about how his chair. And I go, his chair? He goes, yeah, ask him about his chair. So in Indonesia, I'm having a beverage, an adult beverage with Jack. And since wine, glass of wine, we're into the day, we've basically been sweating our asses off all day. 90 degree, 90 humidity. So we go, and we're having a glass of wine. I said, hey, I just gotta tell you, I was told by Mike to ask you about your chair. And he goes, oh, he really? And I said, yeah. And I go, what? What is this? You have a chair? And he goes, well, I make furniture. He goes, I kind, you know, I like on the side. He does a lot of stuff, but one of the things he likes to do is make, like, really nice furniture. Like really nice furniture, like chairs. And I said, oh. And he goes, yeah. And I have one of my chairs in the Smithsonian. And I laugh because I. I laugh because it's one of those things when somebody tells you, it's like, huh. I would have led with that. I'd be like, hi, my name's Phil. I have a chair in the Smithsonian. Anyways, so this is a guitar. So I just tell you that's why I like him. Because it. I love it when you know somebody and then. And then there's no bragging, right? No nothing. You got to figure it out. You got to pry out all of their amazing qualities out of them because they're just not wired that way to boast. So I just thought I'd tell you guys that story. I love it. And, and if I ever, if we ever do a podcast again, which we might, I'll definitely get them to tell you about working for pizza and having a chair in the Smithsonian, because I think it's just. They're both amazing stories. So Michael Nielsen says, hey, I wonder how he likes it living over there. I wonder if it'd be another interesting video. So he doesn't live there. He just goes there constantly. So what they do is they rotate. There's three of them and they're always. One goes, you know, obviously for weeks, and then they come back and another one goes. So it's just a rotation of always there because obviously they're not running the factory day to day. There's. There's people that are doing that. They're just making sure everything is going the way that they want to. And by the way, I didn't say it in the video, but if you watch that video closely, at the end of the video, there is a amazing guy. He's smiling. He's got a blue work shirt on. He's smiling like crazy. And I just don't know if I'm allowed to tell you his name. So I didn't ask to clear that. But anyways, he's the guy who came up with the idea of doing pictures, putting pictures by the work desk. I should have put the video again. You know, you're editing and editing and editing video. Like that was like nine hours of editing. Especially all the re edits and stuff, and especially all the audio filtering that has to do to level all of the massive differences and volume levels that happen throughout the. The video. They also send people from Cortech to the PRS, MD factory to learn things and bring things back. And so that idea of Putting their pictures up that he. The guy from Quartec saw them do it at Maryland and said we need to do that here. So I thought that was really cool. Okay, let's go to Justin. Wants to know any. Phil, any. Any thoughts on Eric Johnson DiMargios. I have BurstBucker1 and twos that are very bass heavy in the Gibson standard light. So the Eric Johnson. If you guys don't know, it's a really weird thing, a lot of people don't know this. That Eric Johnson has a signature DiMargio humbucker and Zeo. Where is it at? Would it be under vintage power? Do they do it? They don't do it by ours. Yeah, they do. No, they don't. PF I just want to make sure they still make them because, you know, it's been a while. Oh, Eric Johnson. Here it is. Let's go here. So if you guys don't know, they make these Eric Johnson custom humbuckers. These are basically PAFs, but they are very low output. In fact, they're almost identical in a lot of the specs to my mirror pickups, which you guys know. I like my Purist mirror for that reason. Very low output pickup. These are very soft. These are kind of humbuckers that they're just going to sound like they're not as punchy as a P90 where a lot of PAFs really kind of sound like a P90 without. Without any hum. These are a very low output pickup. Very smooth. I love them. I think they're a hidden secret in the DiMarzio pickups. You know, I just think it's just. See it says right here, it says. Although Eric Johnson is best known for a strap player, he's always placed humbucker equipped guitars as well. In fact, I believe he used the ES3. I'm reading. I'm not reading the same part. I'm telling you guys. I remember Eric Johnson. I think he used an ES339 for some of the stuff on that album and had these pickups in it anyways after getting a new Gibson Les Paul 59. So maybe I was wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure he has an Easter 35 as well. Eric asked us if we could. If it could be made to sound like an old Gretch country gentleman guitar. Well said, no problem. The pickups were designed the exact replacements for the standard full size humbuckers. They're bright and they have a great presence without sounding thin. So this would. You're talking about your pickups Being basically, these would obviously not be basic to me. They're very like the Amira, very articulate, very clean. They don't drive the amp in any way. So if you're not getting your, your gain from your amp, you're not going to get any gain out of the pickups. I highly recommend them to a lot of players. If you think you're the kind of player that likes that kind of pickup. Definitely. I think they are one of the secret, secret pickups at DiMarzio where it's like just. That just doesn't, you know, they don't get the, the hype that it. But I, I'm pretty sure I will have to double check. I'm pretty sure I have a guitar with a set of them in there. I have to have. Because I have a set and I put them in something, I just don't know what I put it in. So now I gotta go figure that out. So. But yes, also we have. Nathan wants to know, what does Nathan want? How important is the feel of the nitro finish for you compared to poly? It doesn't matter to me at all. My first Gibson was a huge upgrade in feel. I feel like it's my first real guitar. I, I kind of like it. I look at the finishes on a guitar like tubes in an amp. Sure. You know, if I was gonna bet without hearing it. So let's talk about amps. I'm gonna bet, you know, and if somebody says, oh, it's an old tube preamp with a tube power amp and a rectifier tube and really good transformers and I can't hear the amp. But you want me to bet whether or not I think the amp is going to sound good or not? I go, I bet that it sounds good, but it could sound like crap. And so like I said, that doesn't mean the amps can be good, but I would say that most the amps are that are like that do sound good. The same thing with finishes. If you were going to say, hey, this is a nitro finish versus a poly versus, you know, a satin finish, what do you think is going to feel better? I go, maybe for me, maybe I'd like the nitro better. I don't know. There's the other problem. There's just all kinds of nitro finishes, all kinds of poly finishes. So I just, I have all the different kinds of guitars behind me. And there's just certain things I like about others. There's certain nitro finishes that to me feel gummy when I play. Them. I talk to my friends that are finished guys and then they explain to me why. And I really don't care. Just I'm like, okay, I get it. Personally, I think I prefer unfinished guitar necks. That's my preference. But I don't have a problem with a, you know, a finished neck, so. Because like I said, I don't have sweaty hands. My hands are very dry. So a glossy neck isn't really a big deal for me. But. And I think this is a. This is the rule. I always. I told you guys the story. I'll just talk about my buddy Thor. I haven't talked about Thor in a while. Thor's a great guy. Thor made a huge mistake. He'll tell you this if you ever meet him. He'll. He decided to fall in love with jumbo. Not medium jumbo, but jumbo frets. He only loves jumbo frets. So every guitar he buys either has to have jumbo frets or he has it immediately refreaded. And he's had tons of guitars refreaded with jumbo frets. And then he's had tons of guitars where he's refreaded with jumbo frets and still not like them and then has sell them at a loss because he had jumbo frets put on them. And that's not what the guitar. And I find that when he. His. The point of that is when you get so hyper focused on one thing, that's great. But then you really should be the kind of person that likes one guitar if you. If you don't like all the little things. I'm not saying that's about you. I'm just saying this is my philosophy. If you don't like all the little things about certain guitars, Jen, this. Stick with one guitar, right? Or stick with one style of guitar because. And that's what some players do. If you notice, like, you'll go see it. You see collectors on YouTube all the time, guys who have collection of guitars and they'll have, you know, 20 Strats or 20 Ibanezes or 20 Les Pauls. They found what they love. My buddy Joe Kaff is like that. Joe's like. He's like, I like Les Paul's. So he's mostly all Les Pauls. When you find what you love, you just play that. Me, I'm a Strat person, but I need a little bit different. Like today I was playing this. I was playing this for the last couple days because the Herman Lee. I don't know why, I just feel good. Plays Good. Sounds good. It hasn't been out of the rack for a while, and so I was playing it, and so this is nothing like my telos. The neck is really rounded. It's just the carve right there is different. Just everything about it, the sound, but I love it. And so sometimes a little different is sometimes a little nice, but the variety is a spice of life, I guess. And consistency is the key. See how all these things can make us nuts? All right. Okay. Hold on. Happy. Good thing. Wants to know if the HX stop does drops also. Rad playing Phil. Thank you. Thank you for the compliment. I believe it does. The original M5 does a drop, and so, yeah, you can pull off some. I think this is whammy. No, it's not drops. I haven't checked the HX stomp to see this is one of those effects. I'll tell you right now. Here's what I can tell you. That's easy. Both the HX stomp and the M5, you can hook up an expression to and use it as a whammy pedal. So, you know, right. Get that, you know, whammy thing going on as an actual drop polyphonic, because that's where it's different, right? So even though the new whammy pedals have a polyphonic feature, the original whammy was not polyphonic. So, like, that's why the original ones are so sought after, because you'd strum a chord and it would just sound like garbled mess, and then it would sound crazy and, you know, Dimebag Darrell and people rage against the machine. All these players would use it and it would sound great, but the polyphonic is like what you saw me doing earlier. When you strum a chord, you know, and that stuff, not only is hard for it to detect all those notes, but then to make it clear and then not make it, like I said, have a tracking issue or a latency issue. The drop pedal by Digitech has a latency issue. The boss also has a latency issue. I would almost argue the boss had less of a latency issue. But if you're focused on the latency issue, you're not going to like the pedal. The whole point of it is for the audience, right? It's like a, hey, how do you drop tune this thing? Mark Tremonti uses one. A lot of professional guitar players are now using these drop pedals because, I mean, think about this. Why? Why have 10 guitars. 10 guitars tune different. Different tunings. I mean, obviously, if you have dad Gad or open G or you know. Yeah, you can't use these specific pedals for that. You have, you have your other pedals. But. But if you're just gonna go, hey, I'm playing a step down or two steps down or half step down, then yeah, why not use just a pedal to do that right on stage? And I don't think people would notice. I will tell you. And this is really, it's important and this is probably really important to know if you decide and if you have not bought switch cameras, if you have not bought any of these drop pedals like the poly shifter, the drop tune, or the, the fork. What's the fork? One from Electro Harmonics, the tuning fork. Whatever. You better. I bet. I need you to know this. If you play quiet, in other words, your guitar amp is very quiet to where you can hear your guitar tone, it's going to sound really weird to you because if you hear, if your ear hears the original note and the detune note, sometimes it will sound like an octave pedal, right? Where it's like playing an octave and the, the note. And sometimes it's going to sound just out of tune and dissonant and strange. So these are not very good for playing very quiet. You don't have to play super loud, but you have to play loud enough to where you really don't hear your guitar. So I should have said that. That's my disclaimer for that. See, that's why it's kind of cool to have these discussions. I always think about that going, I wonder how many people left the. The live stream early to go buy one. And now they're finding out. Thank you, guys. The pitchfork. I had the pitchfork as well. I had the pitchfork for years. It's a good pedal. I just thought the drop pedal was technically better, but both were good. And then I now I think the Poly shift is better. So. Okay, let's go back to this screen and. Okay. Greg says he wants me to grab a question from the chat. Let's do it. Sorry. Scrolling, scrolling. HK wants to know what's the main sonic difference between a Strat and a Thin Line Strat. So Thin Line Strat. Eric Johnson has one too. Thin Line Strat, if you haven't seen, is just like a Thin Line telly. It means it's chambered. It means that has a hollow section in the guitar. Usually has an F hole on them. But some Strats don't have any F holes. Acoustically, of course, the, the thinlight Strat's gonna be louder. I mean, it's just gonna make the guitar resonate more. The strings are going to be louder. It's almost just like an acoustic guitar and the idea that you'll in the room. So if you're playing a guitar acoustically, think about this. Just like this custom 24 CE. This is the semi hollow, chambered right there. It's not chambered here. So it's solid. I mean this is routed out, but solid. And then chambered right there. It's gonna be a little louder. Not super loud, but louder than a solid body guitar plugged in. I don't really hear a difference. However, some players on stage, when the amp, when an amp is cranked because the way sound gets in there, this starts to vibrate. And then just like an acoustic guitar, if you don't have it out of phase, it's. You start getting feedback. So a lot of players that play semi hollow or are a thin line style guitars, which are semi hollow guitars, chambered guitars, heavily chambered guitars, especially, especially ones with any open holes, tend to get feedback. In my experience, the feedback is definitely being live on stage. So it's not something I think you would experience at home for the most part unless you're really cranking a half stack Marshall. So. But some people argue the tone is different. I don't really argue that. I mean again, once you go down that debate, you can argue it into insanity. Because I could argue. You could argue, hey, if they chamber it does sound different. Yeah, sounds different. And so does lowering the pickup a little bit. And so does changing the type of strings you have. And so does changing the saddles, and so does changing the nut, and so does change, right? And then you get to the prs, changing the tuning keys, heads changes the tone, I guess. I don't know. Like I said, you can follow that. That to me, I'm looking for the big deals, right? To me, like changing your pickups does change essentially how the guitar is going to sound. Changing your amp, change your speaker, those are big deals. Like I said, changing a speaker to me has way more effect than changing your cable guitar cable. Changing your pickup has way more effect than changing the type of wood the body's made of. Changing your strings is more, way more to do with, in my opinion, than the fret material. Those are just my observations. So like when somebody says, oh, stainless steel strings are. Stainless steel frets are bright, like I said, I'm like, okay, well they're bright. You could put strings on that are not as bright. It won't be as bright. It's an argument for the ages. You use steel strings, nickel frets, or nickel strings on steel frets. Somebody needs to do that. I'm not doing it. That sounds like a lot of work for. Nobody wants to watch it, but. So just fine says, hey, Phil, what's your opinion on the Screamin Demon pickup? So the Screaming Demon pickup, do they even make it anymore? That was the George lynch pickup. The worst name ever. The worst name. When I say that, don't, don't, don't get offended. I am a huge George lynch fan, however, and the Screaming Demon was a pickup that I bought when I was young. It was my first. It was my very first Seamer Duncan pickup. And I bought it for all the wrong reasons. I bought it because I love George lynch and I wanted a more aggressive pickup. And what could be more screaming than a screaming demon, right? So I got a screaming demon, put it in my guitar. And the guitar at the time had a no name brand pickup in it. But the no name brand pickup was actually modeled after probably like a super distortion or a JB something hotter. And the screaming demon, just like all by distortion went whoop. And I was like, what's going on here? And that's when you learn that the screaming demon is not very screaming. It's not a high output pickup. It's a great sounding pickup. I love it. I think it's one of the best in the Seymour Duncan lineup. But it's the name. It's. To me, it's like the metal pickups from prs. Wrong name. It's like not what I think of when I think of those, you know? You know, it doesn't conjure the correct imagery to go with what the pickup's actually doing. It's just a cool name. But it, like I said, it's not a high output pickup. It's a medium output pickup for sure, but great sounding. Okay, and. Okay, hold on a second. I don't know why I told you guys to hold on. It's kind of funny. Hold on. Where are you gonna go? Jim says, hey, Phil, how did you get to see the PRS acoustic building? I didn't get to see the PRS acoustic building. So the PRS acoustic building is in Dalian in China. So if you watch the video, I explained that basically the. So if you guys. This is on my sheet, so it's cool. Let me. Let me tell you guys what I'm trying to work out with Purs right now. Hopefully we'll get it done. So let me go and show you something that I think got missed. I think the Herman Lee grabbed so much attention that some of the other launches got a little shadowed by the, you know, all the opinions of the Herman Leap, good and bad. Okay, so a couple things to note here on the new PRS guitars. So one of the new guitars that came out, if you didn't notice, was now they have a hardtail version of the standard. It is still 499. It still comes with a gig bag. So it's the same price as the Tremolo. So you get to choose either one and. And the other different. The difference is, if you guys didn't notice, and I talked about this, is that they have the new pickup rings. They now have the correct lampshade knobs. They have the correct tuners, correct tuning. When I say tuners, not lockers, I wish just those new bird, you know, plastic tuning heads. So again, just to give it more of the correct aesthetic for the core. And then, of course, they're using the brass plugs, so. And again, a bridge that's more like what you see on the S2s and the cores. So that was new, and people didn't notice that. But the thing that I think really everybody missed was the hollow bodies are gone, and now they're new. Okay, so the Hollow Body 2. See, the new pickup rings, this is not the same hollow body as before. Okay. Hey, look, there's. There's Brian. Okay. All right, so new changes, obviously, they got the new tuning heads as well, and they got new pickup rings that look more like the core PRs. They want to do something a little different. They did the big difference, which they don't really show you here, which is important is. And if you don't mind, is that two things changed on the PRS hollow body twos. One, they move them from China to Indonesia. So the main China ones are gone. They don't make those anymore. Okay. So they move the production to Indonesian court. The other change is they're not bent top hollow bodies like a traditional Gibson or a Gretsch or an Ibanez. You know, they are carved top and back just like the US Core PRSS hollow body twos. They also change the body shape. I think they're smaller than the old hollow body twos, at least it looked to me. But they are bigger than the core hollow body twos. And this is actually, believe it or not, they. They even talked about the fact that the core. They wanted to make the cores a little bigger, but it just didn't make sense. To retool in the American factory. So this is kind of like the ideal idea, what they wanted. So if you guys. So they upped the price. They went from $1500. So 1499, I think actually, they jacked us up to 1599, but they're on sale to 1899. So they went up 300 bucks. Almost 400 bucks, right? Yeah, 15 to 8. Yeah. So 400 bucks. But in the 400 bucks, the changes were carve top and back, new upgraded components and move production from China to Indonesia. So that was the change. And that. So what happened was I actually had Shawna do it. We'll see what happens. Let's not count our chickens before they hatch. I asked Shawna, do me a favor. She did it for me. She reached out to the people that she talks to at PRS and said that we think that a lot of people missed that The Hollow Body 2 got that big upgrade. And even though it's got a big upgrade price, because I saw a lot of people saying they just jacked up the price on it. I'm like, well, look, no one wants to see a price increase, But a carved top and back and moving from China, Indonesia, the other things are fine, but those are two things. I don't know if they're worth 400 bucks, but then again, so, you know, I picked up a bunch in the factory, but I didn't play anyone physically. So we asked them if they would send one out to the channel. I'll do a deep dive on it. So we have a compare contrast to the one I did, the hollow body, too. So. So that. I think a lot of people will be excited about that. So back to your question of acoustics. No, I've not seen acoustics, because, like I said, The PRS acoustics are made 100% in China. When you see the Cortec video, you'll see the acoustic factory. But keep in mind, the acoustic factory in Indonesia mostly makes inexpensive acoustics. The expensive acoustics are actually made in China. And I'll explain all that when. When the video comes out, they explain it all to me so I can explain it to you, because I don't know. Okay. Okay. Oh, why did that go away? I had it on my screen. It's gone. Scroll to the. To the right. Okay. And let's. Let's do this. Hold on. Let me make sure. Just be quick before I do this. Let me do this one. I'll go in. The next one says, hey, what do we got? Hey. It's just that I see plenty of Thin line. Oh, he's got more to the thin line. I see plenty of Thin Line Telecasters getting sold, but not Thin Line Strats. Wonder about the sound difference. It's not really a sound difference. The main reason is this is not a popular guitar. The thin line. So, you know, the Thin Line Telecaster was basically invented because they were trying to wait, relieve the guitars. That's essentially what they were doing. If you notice, if you notice when the Thin Line Telecasters really popped, especially in the 70s, around that time, if you look at them, especially 70s telecasters, most of those thin lane 70s telecasters are still as heavy as regular Telecasters, if not heavier, even with the weight we're leaving. And the reason is, is that ash, the ash wood, right? Ash. Nice piece of ash. Ash is really crazy. It's not very consistent. So like alder is very consistent, which is why Fender chose it, why some companies choose it. Basswood is kind of consistent. In other words, it's mostly light, but it can get heavy. And ash, though, is all over the place. So ash can be super light or super heavy. And it usually depends. And I'm not a wood person, you know, I don't go out there and chop the trees. But I can tell you that it has to do sometimes with the type of tree that. The type of tree, the season, which they chop the tree that we're in the tree, they. They're pulling the wood from the center, the top, the bottom, all that stuff. But more importantly, have to understand how much wood, I mean, how much wood, how much woods in the wood, how much water's in the wood. So when you get heavy pieces of ash, they just thought, hey, why don't we chamber them and make them thin lines, right? And that was just a way of weight relieving at the time. And because it existed, it just made sense to do it. They did it. The main reason they do the strat is the arm contrast contours is a little difficult, right? If you look at the strat, the arm contour is a little difficult to cut out and put it and chamber that way. But also a lot of people are a little weirded out about the idea there might be an F hole right where your arm is. A lot of people, when they look at the chamber strat, where it's at, even though it's kind of forward, it looks like it just doesn't look. It doesn't have the same look. So that's why they're not as popular. So that's that's all. It's not a sound thing, per se. Or anything. All right, Last. Any last things before we go, before we. We start our weekends. And while I'm looking, just if anyone wants to check out any of the new videos this week, you can check out those videos. Yeah, that's okay. We're gonna end on that note. That is hilarious. People don't ask him how many guitars he has. They ask him how many guitar closets he has. Is hilarious, right? That's funny. You get. Yeah. And then Nella wants to know anything about gnl. I've not heard anything from gnl. It's. It's, you know, there's. Again, there's nothing to report officially, so there's nothing to report. Somebody did ask. You know what? We'll end on this. Somebody sent us a message, and I thought it was queued up and I didn't see it. So. You know what? Let me. Give me a second. And somebody asked question. Nope. Hold on a second, I'll find it. The question was that they had ordered a G L and then they heard that it closed after watching my videos and that should they cancel that order, I would say if the guitar is not available. So I can't find your question. I'm sorry. It's not pulling up in my system for some reason, probably because of all the weird stuff I did to show you guys. This stuff. I probably have. I have just too many things closed and too many things that are different open today. My answer to you is, if any of you ordered a G and L guitar to be built by a dealer or anyone and it's going to be built, I would go ahead and cancel that order. Again, let me back up. I personally, if I was in that circumstance, I would cancel my order. I would go to the dealer or whoever I ordered it from and say, hey, look, I want to cancel that order and do something else. Maybe get your money back. Maybe find something else. Find something in stock. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't wait. I don't think you'll be screwed because you're through the dealer, not through G and L. It's not like you gave the money to gnl. GNL won't get the money until the guitar ships. That's how that works. So let's back up and give you some insight on this. When you order a guitar from Fender or GNL from a dealer, the dealer orders the guitar and they pay for the guitar either when it ships or they get a net term when it Ships. In other words, sometimes it's 30, sometimes it's 60. Usually it's going to be special order is going to be 30 net or, you know, pay in full. Depends on the dealer's status, size of the dealer, all that stuff. All that just means is the day the guitar ships out, the dealer has 30 days to pay that invoice from the day it shipped or, and. Or they get billed for it right then and it can come out of their account then. Either way, it's not. Never have I seen from GNL or Fender or Gibson that the dealer has to give them a deposit or pay half or pay full to get the work started. That's usually a smaller thing. So, like, if you order direct from Kiesel, they're going to ask for a deposit, obviously, right? They're a small dealer or small company, but. So in other words, if you gave in your money to the dealer to order a G L. I do not know of a scenario where G L would have your money. And if they do, that seems really weird and you should tell me about that. And I can do. I can actually find out if that's actually true or not for you, but there should be no case where that happens. That being said, I do not see GNL doing what it did before. So we know now whatever happens with GNL going forward, it's a new, different G and L. Right? GNL's got two courses of how it's going to work. It's either going to be bought by somebody, right? And maybe they'll reopen the facility. But it's not a good sign that they let everybody go, or, you know, they just buy the intellectual properties and stuff. And again, we're just. I'm just guessing here. We don't know enough yet to know what happens. But what really happens is if I would not expect to see a guitar anytime soon, I don't think they're going to be opening the factory up like tomorrow and start going back to work. They could, but I would, if it was me. I would not bet on that. And especially if it was my money, I wouldn't do that. So what I would say is if you have a deposit with a dealer, I would contact the dealer about moving the deposit into something else. So maybe go, go to, you know, maybe find a GNL in stock. So it's a good time to buy G N ls because. Well, when I say it's a good time, I mean it's because it's, you know, it's on your mind. And it's exciting and it's kind of the last of them of, of the ones we know of the ones we say saw. So that's my $0.02 on that, if that helps. Okay, on that note, I want to thank everybody for hanging out. I hope you guys enjoyed the gear of the week and the tour had some fun. I did. We have a lot of videos next week. Just like we had a lot of videos this week. Thank you guys for supporting thank you guys so much for supporting the second channel. Holy crap, you guys are nuts. I love you guys. The, you know, and I just want to say somebody and I should. I'll find you, I promise I'll find your comment. I just want to say somebody put on the second channel. Next comment. They said thank you for all the work. And I just want to say, like I said, that felt really good. Not, not to me because somebody is a. Has a full time job just running the second channel. 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