#1009: January 26, 2025

Summary

Knowledge Fight — Episode 1009: January 26, 2025

Podcast: Knowledge Fight
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Date Released: February 17, 2025
Focus: Clips from the January 26, 2025 Alex Jones Show
Core Theme: Breaking down and analyzing Alex Jones’ coverage (and miscoverage) of current events—from technical meltdowns to immigration paranoia and the future of his own narrative post-Trump’s second inauguration.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan examine a post-inauguration Sunday broadcast from Alex Jones, dissecting how Alex responds to both technical snags and the evolving reality of a Trump administration. The episode oscillates between Alex’s performative rage, empty talking points about “globalists,” and the hosts’ deeper reflections on right-wing propaganda, shifting narratives, and Jones’ place in the new political landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & “Bright Spots”

(Starts ~01:00)

• Dan’s Bright Spot: Reviving old plant-growing hobbies, specifically cultivating purple and white peppers. “I think I've never seen a white pepper before, so I'm thrilled to see how they come in and see if there's any actual difference between that and like a yellow one.” (Dan, 01:57)
• Jordan’s Bright Spot: Making a Valentine’s Day dinner at home with his wife—steak, brussels sprouts, bacon, Eminem's candies for dessert. “Valentine's Day is stupid...I would prefer to cook with her.” (Jordan, 03:08)

2. Reflections on Show Structure & “Getting Behind”

(04:04–04:44)

• Dan muses about falling behind on Jones’ timeline, but argues that distance can sometimes help with clarity.
• Both note the diminishing “nutritional value” of Alex’s recent content.

3. Technical Meltdown & Alex’s Vulnerability

(06:27–09:14)

• The show opens with Jones complaining about broadcast technology chaos: “the computer system...crashes...Murphy, baby. You gotta love it. Here's what I'm gonna do...I'm just gonna chill and relax like Fonzie.” (Alex, 07:44)
• Dan and Jordan argue that someone so “teleprompter free” shouldn’t be so rattled by technical snags—suggesting Jones’ reliance on hidden production aids.

4. The Emptiness of Alex’s Post-Inauguration Content

(11:32–15:21)

• Alex shouts about Trump’s “explosive offense against globalism” and pending “victory,” but—as Dan observes—offers no specifics.
• “The top story is that Trump gets the vibe.” (Dan, 14:10)
• Much of Jones’ narrative now boils down to, “Trump is cool and he gets it,” a sharp contrast to the alleged existential stakes he’s peddled for years.

5. Trump’s Immigration Crackdown: Propaganda & Reality

(16:03–23:03)

Jones’ Narrative:

• Claims Colombian President Gustavo Petro “apologized” after being “slapped” with Trump’s sanctions, and paints deportations as righteous removal of dangerous criminals.

The Reality (Dan’s Explanation):

• The real issue is Colombia objecting to deportation flights using military aircraft, citing human rights and dignity concerns—not an unwillingness to take back citizens.
• “Many of them are just everyday folks that have been targeted and caught up in Trump's immigration crackdown...subjected to treatment that's at odds with our values.” (Dan, 18:41)
• Jones spins this into an imaginary globalist plot to undermine Trump, ignoring legal and ethical nuances.

6. Jones’ Response to Protests & Escalation of Troop Deployments

(24:03–27:14)

• Jones characterizes immigrant rights protests as potential “traps” for false flag operations.
• He embraces military deployment to the border (e.g., 101st Airborne), contradicting past anti-police state posturing.
• “Isn't he supposed to be against that?” (Dan, 26:39)

7. Abandonment of State’s Rights & Legal Distortion

(28:15–30:04)

• Jones misrepresents Massachusetts policy, implying obstruction of ICE.
• Dan explains the actual legal background—Massachusetts cannot detain individuals solely at ICE’s request; this is about civil liberties, not protecting criminals.

8. The False Flag Fantasies

(33:35–38:14)

• Jones feverishly outlines a convoluted scheme: globalists will stage violence at leftist protests to “trap” Trump into military crackdowns, thereby labeling him a dictator.
• Dan and Jordan ridicule the logistical and narrative incoherence—“Shouldn't Alex's problem with the idea of rounding people up at a protest ... be something other than it's a trap?” (Dan, 74:40)
• Memorable moment: “The choices [Alex gives] are between Trump ruling over a police state or living in a state where the globalists can just do these violent protests ... The Trump-controlled police state is a foregone conclusion.” (Dan, 34:54)

9. Alex’s Calculated Cruelty

(64:29–67:04)

• Jones channels vengeance: describes “SWAT teams finally given a real moral target,” revels in the notion of nighttime raids.
• Dan breaks down the factual roots (misleading stats on ‘missing children’) and highlights the dehumanizing intent: “His view is ... the existence of non white immigrants ... is a threat to the political control he feels entitled to as a white Christian man.”
• Quote: “Hear that sound? It’s vengeance.” (Alex, 66:10)

10. Spiritual Justification for Retribution

(70:54–73:05)

• Jones claims vengeance is “the Lord’s”—except, conveniently, when “God executes that vengeance through us, His vessels.”
• Jordan lampoons the scripture-as-excuse dynamic: “Every time I hear people say, ‘I believe in the Bible 100%’ it's followed by a comma and then, ‘but not how God works.’” (Jordan, 72:00)

11. Meta-Narrative: Jones Out of Place in the New Order

(52:54–56:14, 83:03–84:28)

• Dan and Jordan repeatedly point out that Jones’ shtick—paranoid warnings, 2020 election conspiracies, “deep state” plots—feels toothless now that Trump is in power.
• “Alex doesn’t seem to get that the game of his career has ended. The globalists are a meaningless concept now, and he’s going to need to change accordingly. Until he does, this is just gonna have the air of anachronism and irrelevance.” (Dan, 54:24)
• “He tries so hard to not appear weak, and this is the most weak I think he’s ever appeared.” (Jordan, 83:43)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Alex on technical chaos:
  “I always love a screw up right at the start of the show...just send me into a conniption fist because I'm teleprompter free.” (07:44)

• Dan on the show’s new emptiness:
  “The top story is that Trump gets the vibe.” (14:10)

• Alex exults in Trump’s success, absurdly:
  “It’s like he’s playing an 18 hole golf course and just hit 18 hole in ones...How am I supposed to get mad when the other 17 holes he didn’t hole in one?” (45:29)

• Dan on Alex’s cruelty:
  “When Alex is descending into that disturbing voice about vengeance, on some level, he knows that the people who are gonna be hurt by this shit are...the vulnerable people just trying to live their lives. And that’s what he wants.” (67:04)

• Jordan on Alex’s religious hypocrisy:
  “Every time I hear people say, ‘I believe in the Bible 100%’ it’s followed by a comma and then—but not how God works.” (72:00)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 00:04–04:44: Bright spots & opening banter
• 06:27–09:14: Technical meltdown and Jones’ self-contradiction
• 11:32–15:21: Empty promises and lack of real news content
• 16:03–23:14: Immigration/deportation misinformation and propaganda strategies
• 24:03–27:14: Militarization at the border & protest paranoia
• 33:35–38:14: False flag fantasies and narrative contradictions
• 64:29–67:04: The fantasy of retributive raids; statistical propaganda
• 70:54–73:05: Religious justification for political violence
• 83:03–84:28: Final reflection on Jones’ irrelevance

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Thematic Takeaways

• Jones is running out of script: With Trump in power and few ongoing “globalist” defeats to lament, Jones’ playbook of paranoid warnings appears increasingly hollow.
• Narrative adaptation or collapse?: The hosts speculate on whether Alex will change his act, become more self-aware, or simply spiral into irrelevance—either gloating, lashing out, or clinging to obsolete conspiracies.
• Propaganda mechanics laid bare: The episode repeatedly exposes how right-wing figures like Jones manipulate statistics (e.g., “300,000 missing children”) and invert legal/ethical controversies for audience outrage and emotional buy-in.

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Final Thoughts

Dan and Jordan close by noting how tiring and performative Alex’s current output has become, yearning for either genuine critique of Trump’s actions or at least honest gloating, rather than the endless cycle of empty, hysterical, and contradictory complaints. The shift in political power, and Jones’ irrelevance to those with actual influence, is underscored throughout.

For listeners: This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolution (and growing irrelevance) of right-wing media as ideological objectives become reality, and propagandists, unmoored from opposition, are left with nothing compelling to say.

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Website: knowledgefight.com

Transcript

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert. Red alert. Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Red alert.

[Jordan]

Red alert.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Dan and Jordan. I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight. Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy. Andy, stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Dan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a. I'm a huge fan.

[Alex Jones]

I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex Jones]

Knowledge Fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

Where a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are. Dan Jordan. Dan, Jordan, quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

My bright spot today is sort of a. Sort of a calling back to olden days.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And that is I have a Plant Watch update.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

I've got some plants going in the house. I have some purple peppers and some white peppers. Some bells.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I also have some further back, not quite as far along. I've got some Thai chilies and some peas, cucumbers.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

And I'm excited about that. But the bright spot is the peppers. The purple and white peppers have gotten a bunch of flowers.

[Jordan]

Oh, shit.

[Dan]

They're at the point where it's like, oh, I think we're gonna get some fruit.

[Jordan]

You think you're gonna get some serious peppers?

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. And so that's. That's pretty exciting.

[Jordan]

That is exciting.

[Dan]

I think I've never seen a white pepper before.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

So I'm thrilled to see how they come in and see if there's any actual difference between that and like a yellow one.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

But, yeah, I just. I like gardening. It's fun. I'm glad I'm doing some more of it.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And that the flowers are here.

[Jordan]

That's awesome.

[Dan]

Damn.

[Jordan]

That's very, very cool.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I don't know. I don't know if it's. Maybe we're. We're getting to that right age, but at a certain point you're like, oh, it's. Did you know that things are alive? You can make them get bigger. It's. It's fascinating.

[Dan]

And it's such a different experience too. Like, I got some plan plants that were like halfway grown, like a little plantlings from the store. And I just didn't feel connected to them. But these I've grown from seed. And like there is something about that. Like I've seen this from the right at the beginning.

[Jordan]

I think it does make sense to people.

[Dan]

Damn.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So what's your bright spot?

[Jordan]

My bright spot is. Oh, well, it was Valentine's Day.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

On Friday. And so Saturday night my wife and I made dinner together. And it was awesome.

[Dan]

What'd you make?

[Jordan]

We made. We made steak with brussels brussels sprouts and bacon.

[Dan]

Heart shaped steaks.

[Jordan]

They were fillets and the. Hers was pretty bad. I made the shit out of that steak. All right. It was a very good. It was a very good dinner and it was nice. We don't really go out, cuz Valentine's Day is stupid and stuff. But I would prefer to cook with her. That's way more fun than going out to a restaurant.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

You know, and we. It's just great. This great Valentine's Day.

[Dan]

What kind of sides?

[Jordan]

Oh, I don't know. I don't even know. What was it we did? Brussels sprouts.

[Dan]

No, it was just Brussels sprouts steak.

[Jordan]

It was Brussels sprouts and it was bacon.

[Dan]

What about dessert? What about dessert?

[Jordan]

Let's see. I'm getting fat again. So I think it was just Eminem's. Just a couple of Eminem's to try.

[Dan]

Healthy.

[Jordan]

Keep it down. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

[Dan]

The, the, the, the candy dessert.

[Jordan]

It's been tough. It's been tough.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

We're gonna be talking about January 26, 2025.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

This is Sunday. We're continuing on with our very slow progression. I'll be the first to admit I'm a little bit conflicted about this approach. I think that there's definitely benefits to it, but we are getting quite a bit behind.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But. So I don't, I don't know how exactly I'm gonna proceed in the future, but for now, having a little bit of distance from the content is helpful.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I think I agree.

[Dan]

And so, yeah, this show sucks. This episode sucks. Alex is stupid. And we'll talk all about it here in a second. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's a great idea.

[Dan]

So first thoughts on the young Turks. I'm worried Cenk Uygur is leftist. Alex Jones, thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy won.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Never been a huge fan I don't know. I'm no expert. Next. That brain force looking sea moss Zaza got me ascending into the fourth dimension at Mock Jesus because it was time to pray. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next. I've been meaning to join as a policy wonk for a while, but I didn't decide to pull the trigger until I found myself screaming at the pod when Dan and Jordan couldn't remember the name of the Russian princess Anastasia. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And we got a technical grad in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to his grace, Augustus Jericho. Yes, like Chris Jericho of House Dyer Dachshund, lord and protector of the animals, the andals and the first men, long may he reign. And remember the words of House Dyer Dachshund are death from below. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

[Alex Jones]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

4 stars.

[Alex Jones]

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark, bom bom. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Yes, thank you very much.

[Dan]

Chris Jericho. The only other Jericho.

[Jordan]

I mean, there was the city, right? Right. But. And the song. But the song was about the city.

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

I don't.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't know if I see a name where the last name is Jericho. And I have to be like. Yes, like Chris Jericho.

[Jordan]

Right. That's a good point.

[Dan]

Pro wrestler.

[Jordan]

That's a good point.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Jordan]

I don't know.

[Dan]

I think he sucks, too. Sure, let's. As we start this episode, here is where Alex is at. Shit's bad. Tech's not working.

[Jordan]

Oh, no.

[Dan]

The machines are all broken.

[Jordan]

Oh, no.

[Alex Jones]

It is Sunday, January 26, 2025. And you gotta love it, right when the show starts, it only happens like once a month. And the computer system in the. The broadcast system crashes. If we had a. So it's all frozen right now, which is fine. If we had a $3 million system, it would basically never do that. But we didn't have $3 million. And I'm not complaining. We had hundreds of thousands of dollars. The computers we have. But that's the fun of this. But it's okay. I always love a screw up right at the start of the show. That, that is my favorite thing to just hammer the whole trajectory of it and, you know, just, just, just send me into a conniption fist because I'm teleprompter free. I do my own research. I get ready for six, seven hours before I'm totally locked and loaded massively to spring into total offense against the globalist. But you gotta love Murphy, baby. You gotta love it. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have it my way. I'm not gonna start the show right now. I'm just gonna chill and relax like Fonzie. Okay.

[Dan]

So shouldn't Alex really not care if the tech isn't working? Like, he's teleprompter free and all he really needs is his brain and his mouth. So I've never really thought about it this way, but he should be the least affected person when it comes to tech problems. But somehow the second anything goes wrong, he has a giant blow up or he has to channel the Fonz to stop himself from freaking out. That seems weird and indicates that he might be a little more reliant on things like that guy talking in his ear than he wants to pretend. Well, but yeah, it happens once a month or so.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I remember when I was doing stand up, if the mic went out, I would be fine. I was fine. Everybody could hear me. Didn't matter. The size of the. That is essentially how it should be for Alex. Like, oh, I don't even need the show to be around. I don't need any of you here. I could be projected onto the side of a fucking moving van. I'll be there, you know. So, yeah, he should not care.

[Alex Jones]

Nope.

[Dan]

He should just be. He should embody that Bill O'Reilly. Fuck it.

[Jordan]

Fuck it. Let's do it live.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Instead, he's a sarcastic, pissy little loser.

[Dan]

Yeah. If anything, like, the only thing he should be concerned about is whether or not the broadcast itself is working.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And if he has concerns about that, then he doesn't need to chill like the fawns.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Like, it just doesn't make any sense. No, I think it's kind of just a rationalization to not really do anything, probably. And that's kind of the vibe that you get at the beginning here where Alex kills time, talking about how he's killing time.

[Alex Jones]

I'm gonna start the show at six after, in just four minutes when we join the 450 plus and growing radio stations. That also pick up the this transmission. But radio stations, as you know, have news and ads the first five, six minutes. But I've been on air and talk radio now for 29 years. On air total 31 in April. And so I decades ago said, you know, we'll still just for the Internet audience, which is gigantic, obviously now huge and bigger than the radio audience, do that first five, because we don't want to just have you sitting there while we run a bunch of ads. But then the more modern younger folks that really never tune in to talk radio or even network tv, they're like, why are there still some ads, you know, six, seven minutes an hour? Well, normal networks have 14 minutes of ads an hour. We just have the local breaks that we play. We cover up with our ads to local stations have their ads. That's how they pay for their stations and their crew and operate. Before, we just had the Internet. And when they took me off almost everything with a giant famous deplatforming seven years ago, and they were wondering why we still were able to stay on there and pay some of the bills. We had to downsize quite a bit. Well, it was because of our hundreds of great radio affiliates that are out there now. You've obviously tuned in today to hear what the whole broadcast is about. And it's big, it's super important. And I was about to tell you all that in this five minutes, but we blew up on the launch pad. Like we like to do what the man.

[Jordan]

I don't. Here's, here's what I think. Here's what I don't like. Okay. I don't like that we're hearing it again from Alex. What I would like is to hear it from everyone once, you know, like every. A rotating montage of anchors having this exact same meltdown on but once every day, you know, so 365 anchors turn one day a year. Everybody has to have a meltdown. I like that.

[Dan]

I personally could listen to him freak out all he wants. It's just there's something intolerable for me about like the content of what you're saying is, I don't give a fuck about this five minutes.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I'm going to talk about how I don't care about this five minutes.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

To kill that time in that five minutes, we'll start the real show later. I'm just dancing here.

[Jordan]

And somehow he's still mad about it.

[Dan]

Yep. It's very, it's. It's very wasteful.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex comes back and the real show is upon us finally. And there's just real yelling. It's just kind of empty. This just feels empty.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

In his first six days as president, Trump has successfully launched explosive and explosive offense against forces of globalism with devastating effect. It is Sunday, January, 26, 2025. I am your host, Alex Jones, and we have been through hell to stay on air this long. We have gone through hell to get President Trump elected. We have gone through hell to expose the New World Order crime syndicate. And all the victories and battles we've won just make the final victory that much more sweet and makes me only want it that much stronger because we're getting closer and closer to irrevocably smashing the globalist. Now, we have a very important transmission for you lined up here tonight. I'm about to launch into all of it right now.

[Jordan]

Okay, go.

[Alex Jones]

President Trump understands that the globalists have tried to kill him and have a public plan to destroy the West. So the entire world is poor, uneducated and starving. So the globalist technocrats can bring in their total and complete absolute hegemonic control and set up their technocracy and carry out their depopulation operations.

[Jordan]

Whoa.

[Alex Jones]

So that is their stated plan. And the good news is it's coming out in the open and humanity is waking up.

[Dan]

That's great news. This just feels like nothing, you know.

[Jordan]

Like, I mean, yeah, Trump knows that they've tried to kill him.

[Dan]

This is the big news.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Trump gets it.

[Jordan]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Dan]

So here's the big news. Trump is cool and you need to just. He's got going to ask the world.

[Jordan]

I'm going to ask you this question. Can somebody knowing news be news?

[Dan]

I don't even think that Alex is reporting that. He knows news.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, it's not.

[Dan]

I think Alex is reporting. The top story is that Trump gets the vibe.

[Jordan]

I said that is. That's what it feels like. And I don't know if that's really news.

[Dan]

Nope.

[Jordan]

I definitely know it can't carry an entire show. There's no way you can just be like, hey, no. Got it.

[Dan]

Well, it's carried eight years of content.

[Jordan]

That's fair. That is fair.

[Dan]

There's something that's really stark about the. The sort of what's going on in reality.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And Alex's coverage, the lead story, is just like Trump's. Cool.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I fail to. Well, actually, I'm being a little bit facetious.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Dan]

I understand that Alex can't actually cover the things that are happening because we're. He too. He would have to be like, oh.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, this people I've sold you.

[Dan]

To are really bad. They're villains and they're doing shit that I shouldn't be supporting.

[Jordan]

Totally.

[Dan]

But it's really embarrassing that you have this emptiness on your. You're within like the first week of your, your God king being in.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like this should be later.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

This is escapist.

[Jordan]

I feel like we're, we're on the verge of him going back to libertarianism. Hmm. I think that's where they all need to find themselves. Because listen, Trump is not what they want, obviously, and they're going to be disappointed by it. No, but, but so then they. What do they have left?

[Dan]

Musk.

[Jordan]

Capital letters. That's what we've all, we've all got capital letters.

[Dan]

Libertarian is on your birthday. Sovereign citizen. There's overlap, but it's not exactly the same thing. You are correct about one thing.

[Jordan]

Yes, though.

[Dan]

And that is that this can't like Trump is cool. Can't be all the show.

[Alex Jones]

It can't be.

[Dan]

No. So there is some news to get to.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And I don't know if Alex has a good handle on it.

[Alex Jones]

We're going to get into all of the other massive news taking place and the confirmation of Hegseth as Sec Def. The big battle coming up with Kosh Patel Thursday. Tulsi Gabbards and the big one, RFK Jr. And Bill Gates caught in illegal fraudulent dirty tricks red handed Friday. And new developments on that front. And so much more. Big developments on the Ukraine, Russia war. Huge developments on the AI front on this live Sunday, January 26, 2025 transmission that the forces of evil have fought like hell to not have on the air now at this critical time. But we're still here because of you taking action and spreading the word and supporting this transmission. Now let me just show you these different stories and then I'm going to go through each one of them. Fonzie, you guys, why I'm so pissed off? Because we need to get serious. We need to get focused. We need to get out of our comas, we get our head screwed on straight and realize we're in a total war for the future of humanity. And I look at all the good that's happening and I guarantee you the forces of evil are going to redouble their efforts. So we haven't won the war, we're just winning big battles. And now we're going to deal with the counter offensives from the globalists. So look at these articles and Then I'll go through each one. Columbia offers presidential plane to repatriate illegal aliens after Trump slaps country with sweeping sanctions. This just broke two hours ago, hours after the Colombian president came out and said, anybody we send to your country, including convicted felons for rape and murder, are not criminals and you must keep them. He was used to our government before that, wanted criminals here to destroy the country and vote Democrat. But now, Petro, the punk, within hours of Trump slapping huge sanctions on Columbia, apologized for turning back multiple US C130 flights with hardened felons that they dumped on us. Just like Venezuela and others have done. They turned the flights back.

[Dan]

So Alex is fundamentally misunderstanding what government leaders around the world are doing in response to Trump's actions in terms of deportations. And the reason he's misleading the audience is very strategic. Colombian President Gustavo Petro had refused to accept arriving deportation flights that were using military aircraft. This is something that's been an issue with many countries since Trump got into office, where they're willing to receive people that Trump is kicking out of the United States, but it's very inappropriate for them to be transported on military craft. One of the fundamental issues here is human rights and dignity. Alex is pretending that all of these people are hardened criminals, but that's definitely not the case. Many of them are just everyday folks that have been targeted and caught up in Trump's immigration crackdown. And I wouldn't be surprised if we learned down the line that a lot of them were actually here legally. But even if we just pretend to believe that these folks are being deported, that they should be deported, they're being subjected to treatment that's at odds with our values. People being relocated by military planes and personnel who were, in some cases, handcuffed during the flight. That's no way appropriate for the circumstances that we're in. Alex needs to pretend that the leaders of these countries, like Colombia, are just mad about the arrival of deported persons, because that feeds into Alex's no one wants these people narratives. If he were to deal with the reality of what these leaders were saying, Alex would be unable to sustain the illusion of his career's big joke of being against the police state. Alex is now in a position where he must lie about the things his chosen leader is doing, because to treat them seriously would require him to fight them or admit that he was just kidding about all that Posse Comitatus stuff. Back in the 90s and the 2000s, Trump did threaten all kinds of reprisals against Colombia and Colombians, which did lead to them offering to send their presidential plane to transport immigrants to the country. Alex is presenting this as complete capitulation, which really isn't totally fair. The offer of the presidential plane is a way of saying you don't need to use military planes and is an attempt to maintain their original position, which is that people who are being deported deserve dignity. As president, Petro has said he would, quote, never allow Colombians to be returned handcuffed on flights. This is a good microcosm of how lies work. For instance, as the BBC reported, Colombia accepted 124 civilian flights that were carrying deported immigrants from the United States in 2024. Their government doesn't have an issue with general cooperation about migration issues, but they do have an issue with protecting the humanity and dignity of their public. Petro doesn't have a problem with Trump deporting people. He just has a specific problem with aspects of how he's doing it. And Alex can't touch that criticism because he. He would have to agree with Petro or abandon the act of being a liberty guy. And so that's kind of a bad place for him.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I suppose. I mean, I wonder, though, because for him and for those, the. The people of his kind, they just think that immigration in and of itself is a crime. And so it doesn't feel like he couldn't. It feels like he could get away with being like, hey, these are all criminals just for immigrating kind of thing.

[Dan]

I think. I think that a lot of people do that, and it is a little trick that you can pull to be like, well, the people are here illegally, so that's a crime, therefore they're criminals.

[Jordan]

There you go.

[Dan]

But you notice that there's still an insistence that Alex needs to make that all these people are rapists and murderers. He does, because he knows that that's not good enough. Someone being here undocumented or overstaying a visa or something like that. I think your humanity still kind of is offended by the idea of be. Them being taken to another country, handcuffed in military planes.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I think that's still, like, pretty obviously not cool. And that's why Alex still needs to characterize them as, like, hardened criminals and all this. That's. That's. So. I don't think that what you're saying would suffice.

[Jordan]

Well, you know, that's what's fascinating to me about that, is that that suggests that if we didn't have the propaganda apparatus in place, the people that are, you know, like, supposed to be the Ones who are fully behind Trump, if they knew the truth about it, they would be like, that's too far. Right. Like that's essentially the concept behind this.

[Dan]

I think that a lot of the public might.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So we've got. I mean, I do think that that's in a way that's almost hopeful. It is.

[Dan]

Well, I mean it's hopeful in the same way as like when we did that Newsmax deposition of the idea of trying to hide certain things from the higher ups.

[Jordan]

Right, right.

[Dan]

Mildly hopeful.

[Jordan]

I don't know that people, it's a.

[Dan]

Dark kind of hopeful.

[Jordan]

People are probably more like you than anything. It's the Alex's that keep them from being like you.

[Dan]

I think Alex, you know, Alex has to deploy these kinds of rhetorical, presentational tricks because he knows on some level.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

That just everyone knows this is fucking wrong.

[Jordan]

Yeah, everyone knows this is wrong. This is a wrong thing to do. You're lying to people because we all know that it's wrong.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. So there's some people who've been protesting and shit. And I guess Alex is against that.

[Jordan]

I would assume so.

[Alex Jones]

Tranche of border news Tranche migrants waving Mexican and other countries flags descend on Trump Tower Chicago protesting and demanding they be able to stay here. And I love reading the comments because I knew what I'd see. They're making it too easy for Tom Homan and other folks quickly responded and got it right. They said, no, it's a trap. And that's exactly what it is. And I'll be explaining that. And this is beyond key. Continuing Screaming Eagles deployed to US border as race repair national security intensifies the 101st Airborne Division, also known as the Screaming Eagles, also a Marine Expeditionary force from Camp Pendleton has already been deployed to the Mexico California border where cartels have shot and wounded citizens for no reason is riding mountain bikes just two days ago.

[Dan]

So the protest that Alex is talking about was the People's March for Justice. It wasn't just about saying that immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States. It was a group of more than 60 different groups that have positions that are counter to Trump's administration. It was a large coalition, but the march itself was generally centered on immigrant rights and Gaza. Alex thinks that left leaning protests are a trap for the globalists to do a false flag, which would then lead to Trump needing to respond with extreme action, which would allow the globalists to call him a dictator. Personally, I think we're pretty far past that point already. And Trump is Supposed to be in control of the globalist infrastructure. So this whole false flag paradigm seems a little bit stale. I find this to be entirely empty.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And kind of stupid for Alex to be doing now.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So there was a hiker in California who was shot and injured in the Jacumba Mountains wilderness, which is outside San Diego. The reporting on it says that he was robbed by quotes suspected cartel members. But that suspicion is not substantiated by any further information I can find.

[Jordan]

Great.

[Dan]

A hiker being robbed and hurt is bad. And I'm not trying to minimize that. But I don't know if this incident is necessarily indicative of a giant cartel problem. Or maybe it's just convenient for Alex and his end of the media to portray it that way.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

As like, look at all this. Doesn't this justify Trump sending screaming eagles to the border?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And Marie, like, isn't he supposed to be against that?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Alex shouldn't be. He should be like, Trump is sending screaming eagles in the Marines to the border and it is a severe encroachment of.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Oh, well.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's like that was all an act on his part for the last 30 years. So that's why that's happening.

[Jordan]

It's like when. It's like when cops throw on like a body to a serial killer that the serial killer obviously didn't, you know, like. Well, we'll just clear this case off. Like the cartels. We'll just blame them for this one too. We'll just put the cartel. Put that one on the cartels. It's already a problem. Nobody's going to check.

[Dan]

You know, and I think in this instance too, like, cartel violence is far too vague a term to be using whenever like, you know, Trump has declared that it's an international terrorist organization.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, I think that for someone who came up in the world that Alex did and understands what happened with like, oh, I don't know, terrorists. That term after 9, 11.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

Well, and the way that the vagueness around fears of terrorists was misused by people.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Particularly Republicans who were in power.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I feel like Alex should understand that that could easily be done with cartel again.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. The danger of words is letting the government have them. Shouldn't be allowed.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Completely silent government.

[Dan]

Well, sure, that would be nice.

[Jordan]

That'll help.

[Dan]

So one thing the government has spoken about.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The Massachusetts government.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Has said some shit talk.

[Jordan]

Shit about the, about the United States of America.

[Dan]

Well, according to Alex.

[Jordan]

Oh, shit.

[Alex Jones]

And then this Massachusetts governor says she won't obstruct. ICE efforts to deport criminals that she was saying she would a few months ago. But cops won't help what's really behind all of that.

[Dan]

So Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey recently spoke about the state's relationship with Trump's new ICE and DOJ policies and clarified that they would be there to help uphold the law, but that Massachusetts law did not allow them to hold people who haven't committed crimes in order to help federal law enforcement.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

She wasn't stating a new policy. She was just articulating what was already the case. Which in the process highlights the ways that the Trump administration is trying to infringe on Alex's precious state's rights. This traces back to a Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court case called Lun vs Commonwealth, which holds that the state police cannot detain someone just because federal authorities suspect them of being guilty of a civil federal offense. If someone is arrested for a crime, they are held according to that crime. If the federal agents take up the case while that person is being held for the initial crime, then they can be transferred into federal custody. But the state of Massachusetts cannot arbitrarily extend how long they hold someone because ICE wants them to be ready for pickup later. That's unlawful detention and it violates their rights. Alex should 1000% support this, which is why he has to report on it deceptively. He absolutely does not believe that state level law enforcement has an obligation to do the bidding of federal agencies. That's one of the huge cornerstones of his ideology.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

To present things this way is embarrassing.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, it would be cool. Because here's the thing that's always fun about these things, is that even if they say it's legal, it's probably illegal what ICE is doing. And then it's probably illegal in, in a state or even in the city to do what they're doing. So why can't we have state cops just arrest those assholes?

[Dan]

The ICE people?

[Jordan]

Yeah. Fuck them. They're doing illegal shit in the wrong place to do illegal shit. Just because they've got a fucking federal asshole badge doesn't mean that they shouldn't be fucking put in prison. I'm saying we get regular cops now. We've got a team now. Now we're all on the same team with cops because they're fighting nice guys.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's the trick. I was just sort of lost in thought, reflecting on how if I dealt with information the way that Alex does, sure. I would be like. I would be talking about ice. Like, it was Mr. Freeze. And like these ice agents are ice skating through the streets. They are on rollerblades.

[Jordan]

They are very much going to be nominatively determined.

[Dan]

Tom Homan has a freeze ray.

[Jordan]

Oh, but then his, his wife would be a tragic, tragic, sad story.

[Dan]

That is true.

[Jordan]

So we don't want to give him.

[Dan]

Tom Holman is not an anti hero.

[Jordan]

I don't want to give him ice powers. No, no.

[Dan]

So Alex is clinging to, like, this idea that there's a false flag that the globalists are trying to pull at one of these protests.

[Jordan]

For what reason?

[Dan]

It's just he has nothing else.

[Jordan]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Dan]

He wants to be interesting.

[Alex Jones]

There's a lot of educational information on how the world really works within each one of these. Like the false flags the deep state's gonna stage against a illegal alien demonstration and then blame the Trump administration and the type of group they're going to use to frame Trump and the American people. That's what they've been pre programming and preparing and saying with no evidence. Why would Trump and Tom Holman or anybody go kill a bunch of illegal aliens? You're just going to deport them. But they're saying, oh, when Trump gets in, he's going to come kill you. We need big demonstrations. That way they get a group of them together, they wait till ICE goes out there and then somebody attacks the crowd and you can't tell where the shots come from. And they blame the federal government. That's guaranteed one of their main moves. You notice I've been saying it for six months, that once Trump got back in, that that was what they would pull. Then they started saying, indeed, Trump's going to attack the migrant demonstrations. This is so obvious what's going on. So people are now complaining with these demonstrations in Houston and Chicago and LA and New York and Miami, where's the Border Patrol? The illegals are all in one spot. Tom Homan's smart. He doesn't need me to tell him it's a trap. No, you don't go get them while they're doing that. The problem is they're going to get violent soon, guaranteed. And then that's going to force the police to respond. But in blue cities, just like you saw in 2020, in the summer of love, peace, mostly peaceful. Burning down billions of dollars and killing dozens of people, burning up federal courthouses. They will stand down in the blue cities, forcing Trump to send in the National Guard. That's what you do when a city loses control or a state loses control. They're gonna do it on purpose. And then when the military comes in, that's when they're going to do the false flag. Wait, they pre programmed with movies like.

[Jordan]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Alex Jones]

They pre programmed with Carville saying Trump's coming to kill the black people and migrants at demonstrations. You, you've heard Jamie Raskin, Civil War conditions. That's their move. And I've kind of already gotten to that, but I'm gonna get more to it.

[Dan]

Okay, so who's supposed to be doing any of this false flag stuff?

[Jordan]

I was wondering that myself.

[Dan]

Like, is it Soros or Sam Altman? Like all of this just sounds insane. And at the end of the day, the utility of this narrative for Alex is to make sure that the audience doesn't care when violence is carried out against groups of protesters and to preemptively rationalize how he can support Trump using the military for domestic polic. If you listen to what he's saying, the choices between Trump ruling over a police state or living in a state where the globalists can just do these violent protests and cause chaos all the time, trying to bait Trump into ruling over a police state, the Trump controlled police state, is a foregone conclusion. It's just in Alex's interest to pretend that the creation of it was necessary.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Because eventually these leftist globalist protests are going to turn violent, it's going to cause chaos, and then Trump is going to have to do the police state thing. Also, I don't know if I've heard anybody talk about that Civil War movie other than Alex. And I don't think a wide swath of the public even knows who Jamie Raskin or James Carville are. If the globalists plan to pre program the public as like it's something to do with a thing Carville said in 2024. If that's one of its main pillars, that's a dumb fucking plan. Shouldn't it be something like a Taylor Swift song or a Bravo reality show that that's what's getting the pre programming out? Not an 80 year old political pundit who hasn't had any major relevance since 1992.

[Jordan]

Yeah, not gonna do it.

[Dan]

Seems stupid.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yep. And also wouldn't if I understand him correctly though, is that once the military is brought in, that's when they're going to do the false flags.

[Dan]

Right. But the false flag is gonna be done to bring in the military.

[Jordan]

Right. But wouldn't Trump be the one who wants to bring in the military and so would be doing the false flag I think.

[Dan]

No, no, because he's cool.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure. But okay, I'm going to try and I'm going to try and get to this place. No, because I'm struggling here. Okay.

[Dan]

I can, I can. Please ask questions because I can untangle this.

[Jordan]

Okay. Okay, first question. The false flag is done by someone to achieve their goal. Right. So someone is attacking themself in order to achieve a goal. Right. So the. They false flag themselves.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

After the military is brought in.

[Dan]

Also before, though, because that's what incites the military to come in as a false flag on themselves. Okay, yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay, but, but then what, what?

[Dan]

So the false flag that you're imagining is like Trump would have to do something in order to achieve the goal that he wants of bringing in the military.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But for Alex, there's a secondary step to this.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Which is the ultimate conclusion is for Trump to be like, sort of suckered into bringing in the military, and then the real goal is achieved, which is the globalists can say, look, Trump's a dictator.

[Jordan]

That's the real goal.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right.

[Dan]

Demonize Trump by making him look like a dictator, by forcing his hand to bring out the military.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

To quell these protests.

[Jordan]

Well, that's just not gonna happen.

[Dan]

No, it is a little dumb.

[Jordan]

That's, that's very dumb.

[Dan]

Yeah. Especially like Carville said, there are so.

[Jordan]

Many easier ways to do literally anything else that would be. Literally anything else that would be more likely to achieve the goal as Alex imagines it to be. Right. Anything.

[Dan]

Right. But that's, that's why this is not like connected to reality at all. It's a way of anesthetizing the audience from caring if there's violence that's carried out by groups of right wing extremists against protesters. And then secondarily, I think Alex has every reason to suspect that Trump is gonna be not so cool about wielding power and he's gonna have to support that.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And so he has to have these rationalizations for why it's okay in this circumstance. Trump needed to put up checkpoints. Don't you understand? Antifa is out there or something.

[Jordan]

Okay, I'm going to throw this out at you. I think part of where Alex is at right now, first off, he has not been able to understand where emphasis goes on words. He's been shouting the wrong word in the middle of a sentence. It's been very confusing. But I think what we're dealing with is a credulity balloon situation. Everything is far more believable now. Like, there's no. There's no. Like, oh, this is crazy. Like, can you believe this? Yeah, Yeah, I can. I can believe it now. Now I can believe it. Right. So what does he do? You know, like, even. Even a false flag these days. Who fucking knows? You know? But this is insane.

[Dan]

Mm. Yeah. It's also that, like, the. The credulity issue is it cuts in both directions too, because, like, I am supposed to believe that this overpowered team of super villains who have been working for the devil.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Who have magical powers. Right. And can see the future. Yes. And tried to recruit Alex as a child into their nefarious plans because they couldn't get his dad or something.

[Jordan]

100%.

[Dan]

They fucked this up.

[Jordan]

I don't know how.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

They don't know how they crushed it.

[Dan]

Yeah. They're. They're just like, oh, I guess Trump survived to the inauguration.

[Jordan]

I mean, what.

[Alex Jones]

I'm not.

[Dan]

I cannot believe that there is some bizarre, elaborate false flag that they have planned that we'll pull.

[Jordan]

I mean. Yeah.

[Dan]

Pull it out this time.

[Jordan]

It doesn't.

[Dan]

It just sounds dumb. He's trying to play the same game he's always played, and the game has changed.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think he's gonna need to get right with that at some point.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Or it's gonna get righted with him.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So Alex talks about this issue with the Colombian president and the plane.

[Jordan]

Yes. Petro, the punk.

[Dan]

The punk.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you. Don't you notice if you listen that he doesn't get to the heart of the issue at all.

[Alex Jones]

What happened? Quickly. Colombian president has refused entry to American planes transporting Columbia migrants back to Columbia, stating, I deny the entry of American planes carrying Colombian migrants into our territory. Won't even take his criminals back. And there's the videos of them coming up to see 130. I guess that's a Galaxy. One of the even bigger ones. And they're told, nope, you got to go back. Oh, well, that turned around quick because Trump signed this order. I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia. This order was given by Columbia's socialist president, who was already a very unpopular amongst his people. Petro's denial of these flights to jeopardize the national security, public safety, United States. So I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures. And we come back. I'm actually going to read the measures because you're not seeing this in the media, all the measures.

[Dan]

So you can see how in this clip, like, how Alex's coverage is pretending to have depth, but it doesn't even touch the real issue. When you hear a story like this, President Petro refused to have these planes come in, your first question should be why.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And Alex is not touching that. Why? Well, he's pretending that the answer to why is that it's because they were carrying immigrants.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And that's not true.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

That's not what's at the heart of the issue. Alex doesn't address this because if he did, it would complicate the story and challenge his imaginary principles. So his coverage is limited to things like reading Trump's tweets and then insisting that there's a secret story no one's reporting on buried in the threats that Trump made in terms of sanctions. It's bullshit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's glaring.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. Like, this shouldn't be a conversation. You know what I mean? Like, not just. Not just about Alex's lies, but, like, what are we doing? That's it. First off, it costs money to fly a plane. Right. What are we doing there? And then we're flying it to Columbia. Why? And then there's people on it. They should be there. What is happening to everybody? And then we're all just like, this is a thing that we're. It's a football that we can score.

[Dan]

Points off of here. Here's what I would say. I would say that, like, yes, if we keep going down layers, then eventually you do get to.

[Jordan]

This is all insane.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But if you stipulate everything up to the point.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Of the president of Colombia is saying something.

[Jordan]

Right. Right.

[Dan]

If you stipulate that all of that makes sense.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Then you ask yourself, why is he doing that?

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

And Alex is refusing to engage with the why. Even if you stipulate that all the other stuff makes sense.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

So I agree with you that there's a rich territory of stuff that doesn't.

[Jordan]

Make sense of not making sense throughout all of this.

[Dan]

That's fine.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

But even with the level that Alex should be or appears to be trying to cover.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

It still doesn't make sense.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And it's intentional.

[Jordan]

No, it's. It's. Yeah. I mean, it's confusing on top of its confusingness. Well, that he's confusing it with.

[Dan]

I can. I mean, the obvious reason is because this is about Trump pr.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

This is. That's what this is.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

This outlet is just that so you remember when Trump got 150 out of 100 or maybe 200?

[Jordan]

I do.

[Dan]

And then a 20 out of 10 or 20.

[Jordan]

I recall that.

[Dan]

How about.

[Jordan]

Are we reducing fractions today?

[Dan]

No. Oh, we're going, we're going into metaphor land.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Golf metaphor land.

[Jordan]

Okay, so the score is going to be low.

[Dan]

Maybe.

[Alex Jones]

Maybe.

[Dan]

It's going to be super low.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, as you can hear me at the start of the show, I am super ultra fired up right now. I'm not trying to be so aggressive and sound like a cross between Optimus prime and Darth Vader. It's just, I mean, this is war, this is hardcore. And Trump is outperforming my wildest dreams. What I imagine would be a 100% by him, I would have been satisfied by his first, you know, few days, first week. And if 80% of what I thought he should have done, he did, I'd have been fabulously pleased. It's like he's playing an 18 hole golf course and just hit 18 hole in ones or on one. He, he got a. You know, it took him two hits to get in because of having Ellison and Sam Altman there. How am I supposed to get mad when the other 17 holes he didn't hole in one? I mean, it's that ridiculous. Even trying to track it is driving me insane.

[Dan]

Well, you're not tracking anything. Also, if someone has 17 hole in ones, they're cheating or the game broke.

[Jordan]

Yeah, they broke the game, unfortunately. Yeah.

[Dan]

They're lying to you about how they play.

[Jordan]

The point of the game is that you can't do that. Whatever.

[Dan]

Literally impossible.

[Jordan]

Ah, man.

[Dan]

But yeah, so that's fun. 18 holes in one. 17. Let's not be crazy about this.

[Jordan]

This is. Okay, here's what's even crazier.

[Dan]

I don't want to sound too much like a sycophantic bootlic.

[Jordan]

Even crazy.

[Dan]

Two strokes on one.

[Jordan]

Even in real life. Even in real life, if there was a president that was doing 97% of what I wanted him to do, I would be fucking furious about that 3%. No, no. What, what are you talking about? Settling for fucking. Oh, he still gets a 200% for failing. Fuck off, Sam Altman's there. We should still be pissed about it.

[Dan]

Sure. I think there's something to be said for that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I think Alex should be pissed about it.

[Dan]

Right, right. I also think that a certain amount of healthy engagement with reality would require that if you feel like someone is giving you 17 holes in one sure. Should be curious about that.

[Jordan]

It's probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Generally that doesn't mean that they're actually overperforming. It might mean that you're being sold a bill of goods.

[Jordan]

It feels like it would be very easy to lure Alex somewhere with a van filled with puppies.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Like, he would be like, what? I can't believe there's a van. Seventeen holes in one. That's how great you are. And I'll tell you, there's one bad hole and it's gonna be inside the van.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And yeah, he's. He's not. He's not that clever. But so are some people on the left.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Like a Bill Maher.

[Jordan]

Oh, is he still around?

[Dan]

Yeah, he's doing that Club Random. Have you seen that?

[Jordan]

No.

[Dan]

He gets really fucked up and then has dumb conversations with people.

[Jordan]

Why?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Jordan]

He's an old man.

[Dan]

Yeah. I watched the one with the Hoktua girl and I felt very uncomfortable.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

But yeah, apparently he's into Trump now.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Which Alex is like, cool, fine, great.

[Alex Jones]

And it's really happening. Which makes me get really concerned because a lot of them are giving up and their minions are given up. Even Bill Maher's basically endorsing. Not basically. He's endorsed Trump completely the last three weeks. What does that tell you? What did Bill Marseille goes, listen, we got to give him a chance. The left's too evil. They're too crazy. They're going to get us all killed. Just get behind him. Just. It's. Get behind him. He's just, okay, all right, it's true. And then his guests are all just knocking out of the park. And the left that they have on his guests just sit there and shut up. Because they know too, they're screwed if we don't stop this post industrial collapse plan. I mean, my God, you really want your resources cut off. You want to eat bugs? Really want Fauci in the UN shooting in your body whatever they want. Good God. Everybody knows people that have died from the damn shot or had heart attacks.

[Jordan]

That's Trump's fault.

[Alex Jones]

Game. Fuck. So I have a lot of mixed feelings. I feel so great, but I'm also not stupid. And I know every time we make big gains, the enemy doubles down. Now, maybe they're not this time because there's not much for them to double down on. What, blow the planet up?

[Dan]

Yeah, no shit, there's not much. You can't escalate things much further. So, yeah, you have run out of Narrative Runway.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Cool, man.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Thanos, was it. The story ends with Thanos. Stop making the movies.

[Dan]

It's gonna be really difficult for you to walk back from. The globalists are about to blow the planet up unless we can get Trump in. Oh, no, There's a new big bad guy.

[Jordan]

It's too late.

[Dan]

Sam Altman. That stuff was really cute, and it was very fun for Alex to try to turn him into the next Bill Gates for a couple days.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Don't know how well it worked. I don't know. I don't give a shit. And I don't think that anybody gives a shit about Bill Maher. I don't think anyone has for a long time.

[Jordan]

I can't imagine anybody.

[Dan]

I remember it being kind of a public joke that he was a sex creep.

[Jordan]

Like. Yeah.

[Dan]

When I was 20. Yeah, like 20 years ago.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It was kind of known that he was a weirdo.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And not. Not super great.

[Jordan]

Not on the up and up.

[Dan]

No.

[Jordan]

And.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I just.

[Jordan]

I mean, he is. He is making a good point about how the media has capitulated faster than any of us could have possibly imagined.

[Dan]

That. That there's something to be said for that. But I think that the specific example of Bill Maher is trash.

[Jordan]

It is a trash example. Weirdly enough, even whenever he's right, he's still an asshole.

[Dan]

Yeah. There's like. There's media criticism and then there's like, so say Bill Maher.

[Jordan]

Bill Maher's a prick.

[Dan]

Like.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah.

[Dan]

But this. This thing that Alex is saying here. This, like, okay, so Bill Maher is capitulating. And this makes me worried that there's gonna be a big blowback, but maybe there's not.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

This whole thing is just stupid.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

And it is indicative of him having nowhere really else to go.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And so when he just. Just yells. He's playing his old game.

[Alex Jones]

You know, voting mattered. They make it illegal. Well, it was illegal up until we created our country, basically. And, yeah, they still try to manipulate.

[Jordan]

Sorry.

[Alex Jones]

But you don't give up because there's fraud. You engage it, you research it, you expose it, and then it blows up in their face. And if you. The mathematics on how the fraud works, they can only bring forward so much fraud. Here's an easy way to understand it. If 90% of people went and voted in a general election for Trump, it'd be impossible to hide that. Right. Because there's not even enough people to be able even to somehow skew that and everybody would know from the exit polls it was a lie, which happened in 2020 when he got like 60%, but they had enough to steal it. You win by what, 65, 70? You cannot be beaten because they can only bake in so much fraud. At the top famous pollsters with the best records. The head of Rasmussen, I've had the top computer scientist on elections, Dr. Epstein on. And then some of the listeners are like, Jones is saying it's going to be a big enough landslide to override the fraud. I don't believe him. And then what was it? A big enough landslide to override the fraud. So what was it? A moderate landslide. Word for word what I said it would be happened because we overrode their ass. When the enemy cheats, you just fight harder. Because this isn't a board game or a football game where the other side's cheating. You just go home. This is war. You can't give up, no matter what. I noticed viewers see me get that fired up and they go, some of them go, what the hell's that? That's weird. But if I went to the NFL super bowl and painted myself up like an idiot and scream like that for four hours, you'd call me a red blooded American. Well, guess what? I don't feel like screaming over a stupid ass football game. I get fired up about the globalist.

[Dan]

It's pretty shocking how stupid this sounds in the context of Trump winning the election. No one trying to kill him and him facing very little pushback in terms of like handing the government over to Elon Musk. In the real world, there's a ton of shit that's going on that essentially amounts to a right wing billionaire coup over the government aimed at eliminating anything that exists for the public good and privatizing as much as possible. It's a nearly unqualified win for Alex's big business forefathers and the jbs. But the content that he's putting out is like this. It feels dumb because it has to be. Alex isn't needed anymore, at least not this version of him. Who cares about the stupid 2020 election conspiracies anymore? Does he think that he's impressing any of the elites by holding fast to this storyline and showing how passionate he is about it? Those lies were a means to an end and that end has been achieved. There's a feeling, listening to this content, that Alex is still grasping. He's still trying to grasp the level to which his world has fundamentally been changed by what's happened in the past week, from this point back. You know, I think he still wants to just be living in the past where yelling dumb shit about the 2020 election and grandstanding about how he doesn't care about football feels like it matters. Alex doesn't seem to get that the game of his career has ended. The globalists are a meaningless concept now, and he's going to need to change accordingly. Until he does, this is just gonna have the air of anachronism and irrelevance.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. The old world is dead.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's just. It is what it is, buddy. You gotta update.

[Dan]

Well, one way or another. Like there are vestiges of every like, old world and all that. But in terms of Alex's games and his information and the way that this, like, this does not work anymore, this is stupid.

[Jordan]

You got it? And here's the problem. All you got to do is think about what the devil would do. All right? You know what I'm saying? So this is where you go next. If, if Trump wins, then what's the devil's next move? Not like, oh, Sam Altman's bad and.

[Dan]

Like, don't give me that shit that the devil can only cheat a little.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Come on.

[Dan]

Don't give me that.

[Jordan]

Come on, come on.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Who makes those rules? Right? Give me some, Give me some serious devil power. Get your ass. Get a thinking cap. Take a weekend off. Get shit faced and think about the worst things you would do. And that's probably what they would do.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Done.

[Dan]

It's embarrassing, honestly, to just be this.

[Jordan]

It is. This sucks.

[Dan]

Yeah. Mm.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I would love a down the middle, dry, boring discussion about how great the things Trumps are doing are like actually getting into these things.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

I would love that. Or I mean, I don't love it, but I would kind of understand if Alex was just like, haha, we have a king now.

[Jordan]

Yeah. 100%.

[Alex Jones]

Haha.

[Jordan]

That would make me feel more comfortable if he would just at least enjoy the win.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

But this stupid shit, trying to play the same games that he's played over and over again, it just, it, it feels, it's.

[Jordan]

It sucks. It's just, it's. It feels like. It sucks to be. Yeah, it sucks to be a part of.

[Dan]

It's boring.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And it's stupid.

[Dan]

It's boring in a way that's disconnected from the real damages and the real effects that are happening in the world. That's kind of weird.

[Jordan]

If we're gonna. Yeah. If we're gonna go back to the Old world. Then go back to fish people with sad human eyes.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Now we've got. We can. You can even say that Elon's dragging them out of somewhere because he's the only billionaire who knows where. Other billionaires keep fish people with sad human eyes but bring back sad human eyes.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Be interesting.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So I remember in the first Trump term, there's a lot of, like, I'm pretty excited about, like, Rex Tillerson. And, you know, until Alex turned on these people because they didn't like Trump enough, he was pretty excited about them.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right, right.

[Dan]

And so we're doing that again.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

He's pretty excited about Hegseth.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

And he says something I thought was strange.

[Alex Jones]

And when Hegseth won Friday night, I went, whoa. Yeah. And my wife's in the room going, oh, what happened? She didn't think my husband's weird. He's screaming in his office because, like me, she doesn't get upset about sports. She gets upset about her freedoms because she's got her head screwed on.

[Dan]

I try my best to avoid ever talking about Alex's personal life unless there's a reason that's relevant to something larger. Alex has brought up his wife responding to him cheering when Hegseth became defense secretary. And this sounded strange to me because he apparently filed for divorce from her on September 9, 2024. As of right now, this is still an open case in the Travis county courts. I naturally have no idea what's going on between them, but it strikes me as possible that he's actually getting divorced again. Or it seems possible that this could be another way of trying to avoid the bankruptcy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

His wife's divorce attorney is from the firm Fullen Weeder Wilhite. And Alex's lawyer from his last divorce was Randall Wilhite, one of the members of that firm.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Which is a coincidence.

[Jordan]

Seems like they've worked together in the past.

[Alex Jones]

Maybe.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

In his world, it's never really clear. Although in September there were temporary restraining orders filed, and in November and January there were notices filed to take their child on a vacation, which seems like something that would only be happening if there was actual acrimony between the two of them anyway. I don't want to wallow in personal life or gossip level stuff, but that's something that could become relevant in the future. And I feel like there's an outside chance that it is a way of hiding resources.

[Jordan]

I would probably put a lot of. If I were stealing a lot of resources right now, I would put Them in a basket that says that's why. Yeah.

[Dan]

Anyway, Alex is, I guess home life is just, he's pretending it's all fine. So maybe it is. And if it is, then that would lead me towards believing that it's a way of hiding resources or else home life isn't as nice as he's painting. Who knows?

[Jordan]

Who knows?

[Dan]

So back to more sort of news based issues.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Here's another. Here's a lie. Here's a good lie.

[Alex Jones]

So Mayorkas didn't lose the children. He disappeared them and even ended, we now learned secretly, four years ago, right when they got in the DNA testing passed by Congress. The cheap and quick and easy to find out if somebody that doesn't have documents is with a little kid, are they really their mother or father or aunt or uncle or cousin or are they not a relation? Why would you end that and not tell Congress? That was a law to do that. They violated law.

[Dan]

So Alex is lying about a few things here. Obviously, a lot of this program descends into how it's so great that Trump and Homan have found these missing kids.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Weren't missing.

[Jordan]

Weren't missing.

[Dan]

But in terms of this DNA thing, the first lie that Alex is telling is that the DNA testing at the border, it was, it wasn't put through as a bill through Congress.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

In reality, it started in a pilot program that the first Trump administration launched in 2019. The DNA tests are fairly cheap and fast, but they aren't designed to stop human trafficking. They're meant to break up families. This wasn't done universally and immigrants could refuse to provide DNA samples. So ultimately it's really hard to tell if this was even effective at doing anything. In 2023, Biden announced that they were going to stop doing the DNA testing. And now there's a push from members of Congress to introduce bills to require it be done. But Alex is just fraudulently presenting this whole thing as a. Mayorkas under the Biden administration stopped this in order to steal all these kids that Tom Holman is now finding.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it's just trash. It's just utter garbage.

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's nuts.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

What, what is, what are people doing? What are people doing wanting DNA tests? What do people do it? Well, you know what I'm saying?

[Dan]

You know, I think that there is actually a, there is a positive end of it, which is that it can be used to like firmly establish sure. That you are related to somebody.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You know, like claims that you aren't can be disproven through. Through The DNA testing and I mean, the. The initial impetus, a lot of it bringing in the DNA testing, as I, as I recall, is, was that you're trying to reunite some of these families that were separated at the border. That was a lot of the intention behind putting in some of these pilot programs. But in the real world, family patterns aren't all genetic. And, you know, you could have a stepchild that you're coming across the border with, you wouldn't have a DNA match with them necessarily.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And this is what requiring the DNA tests and that's is really about. Yeah, it's about disrupting those family structures, man.

[Jordan]

It's crazy. It's just. It's just like the more technologically advanced we get, the more just the. The like. Well, listen, we don't use the shape of your skull anymore.

[Alex Jones]

Any.

[Jordan]

That would be fucking stupid. No, we categorize you based on some other shit that we're doing. Like, it's ridiculous. It's never going into a good place. It's physiognomy is never going to a better place.

[Dan]

Right. You know, and Alex, should, I mean, on some level be pretty concerned about the. The idea of the government requiring DNA tests, even if it is for, like, people coming into the country?

[Jordan]

You don't know what the government is saying about the DNA test. You can't read a DNA test. They could make it all up. That's the most abusable thing to know that you could possibly have.

[Dan]

Yeah, but he'll. Alex will talk to some dipshit who has a sub stack, and then he'll understand DNA perfectly or listen to a clip of like a Rogan episode.

[Jordan]

I mean, that's just. You could make anything up with that and no one would know. Nobody's a DNA scientist.

[Dan]

No one.

[Jordan]

I mean, going through this process, you.

[Dan]

You think, you think that there are no DNA scientists in the world.

[Jordan]

Somebody who's just gonna be able to by sight be like, oh, that is my DNA. That's what I mean.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Jordan]

You know somebody who can, like, they give you a printout and they're like, oh, this is your DNA. How would you know?

[Dan]

Okay, so you're not, you're not disputing DNA.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I understand that concept. I'm saying that on a look, like they would have it and they would just tell you.

[Dan]

Well, you know, like in movies when there's like two transparencies that they slide.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dan]

That's what Alex is thinking.

[Jordan]

That's what I think. He is thinking.

[Dan]

He's imagining.

[Jordan]

That's not real.

[Alex Jones]

No, it's not.

[Dan]

So basically, we have this storyline that's going on about these 300,000 missing kids.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

And Tom Homan and the ice. And they're finding them.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

And so a lot of the show involves Alex just sort of talking around this. There's nothing to report.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

There is nothing that is happening. But he has a lot of feelings and some of it is fairly disgusting.

[Alex Jones]

Oh, man. Trump's done more than Mayorkas did in four years. Finding the kids, finding them. They disappeared him. Somebody robs a bank and gets off with $50,000 and the cops find out where they are and go bust them at their safe house. They don't get charged with. We're charging you with losing $50,000. You're charged with stealing $50,000 in an armed robbery.

[Jordan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

And you're charged with armed robbery. They're doing it all deliberately. Stop saying they're incompetent. And now we got administration saying, oh, they're not incompetent. They were. They were involved. And we're going to prosecute them. You bet they are. It's the right thing to do for the victims. It stops the smugglers doing it again. So you have to. It's justice. But the big reason is it's going to destroy the Democrats forever and put them on total defense. Do it now. Start arresting the NGOs and the nonprofits. They already have all the documents. And they'll all sing like canaries on their bosses. And then we'll indict every single one of the kingpins. And they're gonna be living in supermax prisons if they're lucky. Oh, you want a war? You got.

[Jordan]

There's a wind outside.

[Alex Jones]

Hear that sound? It's vengeance.

[Jordan]

Is that what that's.

[Alex Jones]

Those raids coming at 3am they're already happening.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Alex Jones]

All year's. That car driving on the highway a few miles away. The wind. But you know what's coming.

[Jordan]

What?

[Alex Jones]

Not a knock at the door, but your door get knocked off the hinges. A SWAT team's finally given a real moral target to hit. Bad guys aplenty. And people that want to get them. Oh, we'll get you. You're in our jaws now.

[Dan]

So the 300,000 kids that Alex is pretending are missing. They're not missing. All this is based on an intentionally misrepresented and weaponized statistic about immigrant children who had not been contacted for a court appearance over their status. Alex and the folks on his end of the Media have turned this into a bedrock of their narratives because it's very understandably offensive. The idea that 300,000 children could have been kidnapped and trafficked at the border is a shocking notion. And all right, thinking people would be motivated to stop whatever was causing that. Alex knows this, so he steals that energy. It's a bullshit propaganda narrative, but it's very understandable and emotionally resonant why somebody might agree to something difficult to accept based on wanting to stop this. Like the idea of government agents doing armed raids on people in the middle of the night. In the real world, the people who will be caught up in these kinds of raids are your neighbors who may have overstayed a visa or are just here undocumented. When Alex is descending into that disturbing voice about vengeance, on some level, he knows that the people who are gonna be hurt by this shit are predominantly the vulnerable people just trying to live their lives. And that's what he wants. His view. He views the existence of non white immigrants in the United States as a threat to the political control he feels he's entitled to as a white Christian man. He wants everyday folks to be terrorized and thrown out of the country. But he also knows that shit like that's pretty ugly and most people aren't into it. So you just tell the audience a different story. You tell them these armed raids are freeing imaginary kidnapped children and all of a sudden you're disgusting, growling. It looks heroic, it's repulsive. And don't for a single minute kid yourself into thinking that Alex doesn't know that the whole line about 300,000 missing kids isn't real. If he's done any research into the subject, he knows that he's just repeating a bullshit talking point. So the only way that he could really think this is real is, is if he didn't look into it at all. And if he didn't look into it at all, that means he doesn't really give a shit. So don't, like, don't ever allow yourself to think that he actually cares. Yeah, he does not care.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He wants vengeance to be carried out on the enemy that he perceives, which is, you know, essentially immigrants, organizations that assist immigrants.

[Jordan]

Yep. Said yep, yep, yep, yep. It's so crazy to me, everybody is like, ah, the reason that we're doing all this stuff is cuz we hate the government and you know, healthcare and stuff. But then they won. And they're not like, let's get health care. They're not even like, let's do something about health Care. No, they're not even about, let's do something.

[Dan]

Well, Alex is kind of about to do something.

[Jordan]

This is. Yeah, but this is weird. And also, it's not something that they want to. Like, they don't want to achieve the goal of getting rid of immigrants, you.

[Dan]

Know, like, they want to growl about it.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right. But if you achieve the goal of getting rid of immigrants, then you then have to just go after somebody else. Your. Your entire movement is going after somebody.

[Dan]

Well, eventually at that point, you go colonial.

[Jordan]

Right? Yeah. You have to go fucking take over. Other people. You have to take other people's shit is the entire basis of what's going on.

[Dan]

Right.

[Jordan]

For these people. Right.

[Dan]

So, like, I don't think Alex hates the idea of taking Canada.

[Jordan]

Yeah, fine.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I don't. Why for. It's so big.

[Dan]

It is big.

[Jordan]

It's so big, you don't need it. Nah, nobody needs it.

[Dan]

They got good syrup. Invented syrup.

[Jordan]

We're gonna have to take it.

[Dan]

So Alex was talking a bit about vengeance.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

In that clip. And you know, vengeance is the Lord's, So saith he. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe. Kinda.

[Jordan]

Well, I'm sorry. Kinda. The Lord is very much not a kinda guy.

[Alex Jones]

Well.

[Dan]

But he works in mysterious ways, you know what I'm saying?

[Jordan]

But not kind of mysterious.

[Alex Jones]

Political wood chipper. And your feet are already in it. And Donald Trump's got control of the throttle. And you know where he's got the throttle jammed? All the way up to the top on high. You see that? See where your feet are? You see where your head's going? Non. Violently, politically, lovingly. You hear all that grinding down there? So vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. And I agree with the Bible 100. But it doesn't mean I can't warm my hands on that warm flame of God's vengeance that he executes through us his vessels.

[Dan]

Oh, so it's not really the Lord's then, is it?

[Jordan]

Pretty much. Pretty much not the Lord's.

[Dan]

I guess we just have to tell ourselves that we're carrying out the Lord's vengeance and that we enjoy it, and then everything's cool.

[Jordan]

Okay, so maybe. Maybe I just don't understand people very well. But whenever you say, I believe in the Bible 100%, that's a period. But every time I hear people say, I believe in the Bible 100%, it's followed by a comma and then. But not how God works.

[Dan]

Well, there's a lot of.

[Jordan]

Not his style.

[Dan]

There's a lot of riddles.

[Jordan]

Fair Enough.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You've waggled your eyebrows at me. The viewing public couldn't see it.

[Dan]

So you can believe in the Bible, but also believe it's all riddles. So it says a lot of things.

[Jordan]

It's all riddle.

[Alex Jones]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Fair enough. Fair enough. The Bible is a book of riddles. You know what? That makes more sense to me.

[Dan]

The doctor was his mother.

[Jordan]

That makes as much sense to me as anything else. So I'm fine with that.

[Dan]

I in some ways have given up on trying to understand Alex's relationship to religion outside of it being the only ultimate justification. Yeah, Valve.

[Jordan]

It's just whatever I want to do is religion.

[Dan]

It create. It's a way of enabling his basest violent fantasies. But on a, on a like sort.

[Jordan]

Of celestial level, society has told me that what I want to do is wrong. So society is wrong because God is right.

[Alex Jones]

Right.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So we get back to this false flag thing of his, which is again, just real dumb.

[Alex Jones]

And Trump's gonna release the Epstein list too, as soon as Kash Patel is confirmed. I'll get into that coming up. But, but since I mentioned this, here, here's the big one of all this. They have pre programmed and prepared all of the media. You've seen. We played the clubs that Trump's gonna attack migrants and, and go after groups of them and he's gonna kill them and they're gonna use the military to kill them. Hundreds of clips, cnn, msnbc, New York Times. Obviously they're preparing a false flag on a group of people, Democrat with illegal aliens. And I said in Chicago, in la, somewhere like that, over and over again. And people keep seeing these big demonstrations, hundreds, sometimes thousands, waving Mexican flags, all of it saying, you know, screw America, we're not leaving all the rest of it f America. You've seen the videos and people are saying, why is it Tom Homan going there? They're right there. It's a setup and they're waiting and they're going to start getting violent at these things. And when the police stand down because they're a blue city, then Trump constitutionally will have to send in the National Guard and then somebody's going to set off a truck bomb or shoot into the crowd and blame the Trump administration, guaranteed.

[Dan]

So there's something that's been like in the back of my head, a little itch while Alex keeps talking about these false flag fantasies that he has. And shouldn't Alex's problem with the idea of rounding people up at a protest over immigration policy be something other than it's a trap. He's supposed to love the Constitution and all that, so it feels like he should think that even though he doesn't agree with what these people are protesting for, it's not a crime to wave a Mexican flag or protest immigration policies. This is subtly a pretty big clue about how full of shit Alex is when it comes to pretending to care about our country. If it weren't probably a trap to make Trump look bad, it seems like he would all be in favor of federal agencies like ICE rounding people up at a protest, violating very basic civil rights that Alex is supposed to have based his career on protecting. He's so full of shit, and he always has been. But this turn of events with Trump getting back into office has really forced his hand in terms of making a bunch of, like, really overtly nonsense arguments and forgetting what he's supposed to be about. Like, shouldn't. If you see people saying, why isn't Tom Holman going and rounding people up at this demonstration, your response as someone who cares about the Constitution should be, that would be the government cracking down on free speech, which is the bedrock and the center of everything that our freedom comes from.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

I love the idea of Elon Musk buying Twitter because of free speech stuff.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You're supposed to care about that.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But instead, the response is he shouldn't do it because it's a trap. That's weird.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think, I think for most people, free speech is very important up until the very moment whenever they don't care anymore. And in fact, would prefer that free.

[Dan]

Speech not be free, which is fucked up for free speech absolutists.

[Jordan]

It is very difficult when you're an absolutist to not be an absolutist.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That is the hard part about being an absolutist. Right.

[Dan]

I mean, I go back to the image in my head a lot, but, like, the Alex putting duct tape on his own mouth, that is a bumper sticker that says, like, free speech or something. Like, is such a perfect metaphor because he doesn't give a fuck about free speech. He's putting a piece of duct tape on his own mouth to sell it.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Fuck any. Who cares?

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Anyway, yeah, Alex, he's been in the game for a long time, right? Too long. Yeah, too long. Since the 90s.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He says something in this next clip that I thought was like, oh, wow, I, I, I don't think I even knew this, folks.

[Alex Jones]

I've been around 31 years on air. I've been active 34 when I was 17, 18. I mean, I was. You know, I worked for Pat Buchanan's campaign twice. And I would just go out, what Council, other events, hand out Pat Buchanan stuff, go to a.

[Jordan]

Wait, what?

[Alex Jones]

And then you'd be in the parking lot and a guy come up and go, hey, Alex, I really like you. You know, let's go get some lunch or something. And I'd be like. And like, you know what? I. I got bombs in the back of my car. I think we ought to blow up the Democrat. We ought to go blow up the Democrat headquarters. And I'd say, really? Where's your car? I'd say, hold on just a minute. I'd open the back of my Mustang, get an old, you know, mini VHS tag. I go, oh, really? The guy run to his car? And I go, it'd be an unmarked police car.

[Dan]

I don't care about that dumb story, but apparently he worked for Pat Buchanan's campaigns.

[Jordan]

What are we. What?

[Dan]

That seems strange.

[Jordan]

That does seem strange.

[Dan]

I mean, on one level, it's not strange because it's another segregationist that Alex.

[Jordan]

No, no, no. The Pat Buchanan of it makes sense.

[Dan]

Yeah. But electoral politics, like that seems really weird.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

That Alex would have had candidate back then.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

That's strange.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And just. Just the. Just, you know, for his personal mythology, though, he shouldn't already be a raving Pat Buchanan fan at 17. Right.

[Dan]

Volunteering for the camp, working on the campaign.

[Jordan]

Right, right, right.

[Dan]

Absolutely not. He's supposed to have been a Satanist.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

At that point.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. This is like, oh, you were just. You were just born like this asshole. You know, like, there is no backstory. If you were 17 working for Pat Buchanan.

[Dan]

If you were 17 and. And you worked on both of his campaigns, which would have been like, 92 and 96 crazy. So, like, if you were doing that, then, like, at 18, your dad kicked you out, wanted to kick you out of the house because you kept getting people pregnant.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Like, how does any of this line up? This doesn't make any sense.

[Jordan]

No, it makes no sense.

[Dan]

Stupid asshole.

[Jordan]

What person was that?

[Dan]

Well, I think a liar.

[Jordan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan]

I think a liar who has had their career enabled by their probably insane father.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that does sound right.

[Dan]

I think that's probably.

[Jordan]

That does sound correct.

[Dan]

Because the only thing that you can come back to over and over again is like, none of this adds up. No, you're. You're lying about your own mythology.

[Jordan]

You're lying about lying about lies.

[Dan]

Yeah. And you were lying then, too.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's something that we've. We've heard. He's did a good job today.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God. He did not. He did not.

[Alex Jones]

Been through this. Been through this. Been through this. Been through this. Been through this. Been through this. I got green moss growing on my back, people. And I know what I'm talking about. All right, I'm done. Look, I. I didn't get into most of it, but I did at least the deep dive. You see how I get up every day and I go, you know, I got 20 stacks here or 30 stacks here or 40 stacks here to pay on the day, and I got 60 something videos. And, you know, if I just did one stack, it'd take hours because it does. Let me do one more at least before Chase comes in here. But that's why they don't like this show, because I know what I'm talking about.

[Dan]

Yeah, they don't like. They don't like the show because he's. He knows what he's talking about, but I don't. I don't. Honestly, like, I don't even. I don't give him credit for doing a deep dive on anything if that's what he's trying to be like. Well, I didn't get to everything, but I got to one thing real well.

[Jordan]

Disagree.

[Dan]

Yeah. No, strong disagree. Definitely not.

[Jordan]

I don't even know who's false flagging who, when and at what point the plan begins or ends.

[Dan]

Well, that's. That really is the issue with the way that Alex is setting it up, because he did say that there was a false flag after the military comes in.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

And to my ears, based on how his shit works, that does require two false flags.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

There has to be one that brings in the military and then one after the military, and that seems.

[Jordan]

That seems confusing and unnecessary. Any one. A false flag. Very difficult to pull off. There's no good plan that has two false flags back to back. Wrong. Terrible.

[Dan]

Well, you know what it would be like. Okay, so you know a fake punt.

[Jordan]

Do know a fake punt, right?

[Alex Jones]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What if.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You're faking a punt.

[Jordan]

I'm listening.

[Dan]

And then the punter goes and, like, looks like they're gonna throw it.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

But then they punt it.

[Jordan]

But then they re. Punt it.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

Double fake punt.

[Jordan]

Double fake punt. Or.

[Dan]

Okay, they do a field goal after faking a punt.

[Jordan]

What if they fake the punt into a field goal?

[Dan]

Right, Right.

[Jordan]

They say they're going to punt. They line up in punt formation.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Then they say they're going to field goal. They run to kick it like a field goal, but then the guy holding the field goal ball takes it and then throws it for a pass. So it's two. Two fakes.

[Dan]

Hmm. I'm into it.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

This is the double false flag of football.

[Jordan]

False flag of football plays.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think. I think that he's getting unnecessarily. Like, it's just complicated and dumb. I just. I can't escape a certain feeling of like, dude, you don't need to do any of this shit anymore.

[Alex Jones]

Nope.

[Dan]

Your guy won't. They're demolishing the government.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Like, you don't need to do false flag stuff anymore.

[Jordan]

You should be. He should just be on offense. If he can't be celebratory, if he can't be happy, because obviously he can't, because none of the stuff that he says that he wants is going to happen.

[Dan]

It's only going to be.

[Jordan]

Right. Right. It's only the stuff that he lies about not happening that is going to happen.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Jordan]

Right. He could just. Just go on offense. Just be on offense towards anything.

[Dan]

He should.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But playing defense for Elon Musk and Donald Trump is the saddest gig.

[Dan]

Well, it's. It's. That's what's. That's what's complicated about it. It's like, there's a playing defense for them and then also a watching on the sidelines while they do offense.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And being like, yeah, we got to be all offense.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That sucks.

[Dan]

Yeah. It just. It feels weak and. Yeah. There's. There's a part that you just kind of wish he'd.

[Jordan]

He feels weak. That's the. It's the biggest feeling. He tries so hard to not appear weak, and this is the most weak I think he's ever appeared.

[Dan]

Well, I think a little bit of it has to be a recognition on his part that, like, he has no use.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

For any of these people anymore.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Like, Roger Stone got as much as he could have out of Alex.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

But if you want to invest in a Like a liar, there's better options on Twitter.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

You don't need him.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

He's. He's outlived his. His usefulness. I think you might recognize that on some. Some level.

[Jordan]

Probably. And yet at the same time is too crazy and too obsessed with himself to ever actually learn a lesson and leave.

[Dan]

Yep. You should go.

[Jordan]

Or.

[Dan]

Or just, like, throw caution to the wind. Totally go against this.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Why not? Fuck it.

[Dan]

Be interesting yeah. Or gloat.

[Jordan]

I would. I. This is the thing. Like, I'm so disappointed you won. At least enjoy the win like a human being.

[Dan]

Mm. So we'll check in on how this proceeds and see if Alex gets a new game to play at some point. But until then, we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do. It's Knowledge Fight Calm.

[Dan]

Yeah, we'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.

[Jordan]

And now, here comes the sex robots.

[Alex Jones]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

[Jordan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

[Alex Jones]

I love you.