Knowledge Fight – Episode #1096: November 14, 2025
Podcast: Knowledge Fight
Hosts: Dan and Jordan
Original Air Date: November 26, 2025
Episode Theme: Dan and Jordan break down clips from the November 14, 2025, Alex Jones Show, analyzing Alex’s increasingly tangled, frustrated reactions to the ongoing Jeffrey Epstein revelations, the collapse of Trump’s MAGA coalition, bubbling factional conflicts on the right, and the existential crisis facing Infowars as its brand identity unravels.
Episode Overview
Dan and Jordan wade through an episode of The Alex Jones Show defined by chaos, paranoia, and confusion. As new Epstein stories surface implicating powerful figures (including, potentially, Donald Trump), Alex Jones is forced to confront an “open secret” that Trump is covering up the scandal—yet can’t stop making excuses, blaming the globalists, Democrats, Mossad, and the “donor class.” The hosts dissect how Alex’s public persona—once the “crusader against the elite”—is crumbling under the weight of his loyalty to Trump and his alliance with Roger Stone.
Memorable moments include Alex and Roger Stone getting passive-aggressive, Alex accusing Mark Levin and other Jewish conservatives of being Mossad agents, and a surreal “beef or pussy” exchange between Alex and Roger. Through it all, Dan and Jordan highlight a deepening split in the MAGA movement and reflect on the right’s loss of narrative control, pointing out the bizarre ways Alex copes, spins, and ultimately flails in response.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Knowledge Fight “Bright Spot” and Banter
Timestamps: 01:09–07:22
- Dan and Jordan start with their customary "bright spot" segment, highlighting personal positives—a recent guest appearance on The Dollop and a trip to the George Lucas Talk Show.
- Jordan reflects on missing a networking opportunity with wrestler Colt Cabana.
- The segment’s easygoing, self-deprecating tone contrasts sharply with the episode’s heavy content.
Notable Quote:
"Sometimes you're just going to a show... I sit in my seat like a guy... like a good boy..."
—Dan (06:37)
2. Setting the Stage: Why This Alex Jones Episode Matters
Timestamps: 07:22–14:54
- Dan explains that new Epstein leaks are sending shockwaves through right-wing media, forcing infighting and re-exposing old cover-up allegations.
- Alex Jones appears unusually unsettled, stuck between defending Trump and maintaining his anti-elite, populist brand.
- The hosts note how Jones now warns of catastrophic fallout if all Epstein files are released—ironic for someone who branded himself as a crusader for truth.
Notable Quote:
"It's weird how much it feels like Alex is trying to argue against releasing the files, but doing it in this like, shitty indirect way. It’s like he’s warning about some horrible thing that's gonna happen if these files are released, which is definitely not what you would expect from the champion against corruption..."
—Dan (19:26)
3. Epstein Revelations: Trump’s Complicity and the MAGA Civil War
Timestamps: 14:54–25:07
- Dan analyzes Alex’s tortured rationalizations: admitting that Trump is covering up the Epstein story because “billionaires asked him nicely.”
- Jordan and Dan agree this makes Trump's supposed anti-elite stance absurdly hollow.
- The hosts discuss how Trump’s coalition is fracturing—conspiracy true-believers, white nationalists, and pro-Israel/Nazi factions are at each other’s throats due to incompatible priorities and mounting scandals.
- Dan notes the shift: “The smartest thing to do is leave Trump for dead... And it’s fascinating that Alex isn’t moving on.”
Notable Quotes:
- “You don't wink, wink, go along with sex trafficking conspiracies. Like you don't cover up that stuff on a wink.”—Dan (16:52)
- “Trump's actions haven't matched what parts of his base wanted to believe about him, and it's going to lose him certain groups in a way that he probably can't win back. Legit Nazis, as well as whatever part of the right wing exists that actually just has a problem with Israel, know that he's not their guy.”—Dan (21:52)
4. Infowars as a House Divided and Alex’s Eroding Brand
Timestamps: 25:07–41:27
- In a telling sequence, Alex rails against Mark Levin and “Mossad operatives,” adding anti-Semitic tropes while insisting he’s only mad because “they’re trying to bully us.” (36:16)
- The hosts mock Alex trying to “warn Netanyahu” about nuclear war, pointing out his inability to distinguish Jewish Americans from Israeli policy.
- Dan repeatedly stresses that Alex’s message is contradictory, that he’s both calling out and excusing major corruption, while his “populist” mantle becomes a self-parody.
Notable Quotes:
- "You can't be the Bohemian Grove guy and then also say that if the President wants to cover up a child sex trafficking ring, he should just shut up. If you ever were the guy you pretended to be... Alex’s brand is essentially shot and Trump did it to him."
—Dan (37:29) - “It's fundamentally all just kind of like Alex being a baby with a wet diaper. Like he's lashing out. Except that Alex is the baby and Trump pissed in his diaper..."
—Dan (39:02)
5. Desperation, Excuses & Surreal Oratory
Timestamps: 41:27–52:49
- Alex, trapped, makes ever-lamer excuses: This is an act of smart politics! Trump needs more time! Everyone covers up evil! (45:23–46:26)
- The hosts lampoon his rhetorical lurches—alternately threatening, befuddled, and filled with “growl pauses” that highlight his lack of real conviction.
- Dan points out Alex’s fantasy of a populist resurgence via the coming midterms, as the only scenario that could hide the coalition’s fractures.
Notable Quote:
“His Christianity is kind of worshiping the devil. His populism is basically the elite. And his patriotism is not patriotic. Cool.”—Dan (57:44)
6. Factionalism: Right-Wing Fractures and the Search for the Next Asshole
Timestamps: 52:49–70:09
- Dan and Jordan riff on how the Trump “big tent” is broken beyond repair; Nazi types, anti-Semitic conspiracy fans, hard-right Israel supporters, and business-minded Republicans despise each other, and only hate for “the libs” held the coalition together.
- The right must find a “really fun asshole” to rally around, but none fit the bill like Trump did (Rogan, MTG, Fuentes, etc., all have limits).
- Jordan draws a comparison to Game of Thrones: "Chaos is a ladder"—the race is on to entrench minority rule before demographic or political collapse.
- Dan uses the “id people” versus “competence people” dichotomy to explain why these media figures thrive in chaos but fail at governance.
Notable Quotes:
"All they really want is an asshole. If they just replace Trump with another that you could project your, like, weird beliefs onto, you'd be perfectly happy."
—Dan (69:07)
"If the folks on the right were wise, I think what they would do is start trying to cultivate a really fun asshole."
—Dan (69:28)
7. Max Blumenthal as a Guest, and the Limits of Infowars’ Coalition
Timestamps: 70:09–79:57
- Max Blumenthal is invited on Infowars, mainly as the source of an Elijah Schaefer scoop, but his worldview (left-leaning, critical of CIA, anti-interventionist) doesn't mesh with Alex’s.
- Alex tries to shoehorn Blumenthal’s "MAGA base vs donor class" framing into a pro-Trump argument, not noticing Blumenthal places Trump with the donor class.
- Dan points out how Alex’s surface “diversity of opinion” is actually just him looking for rebranding strategies, regardless of truth.
Notable Quotes:
"Max's point about the 99% of the Trump base being in opposition to the donor class wasn't a suggestion of a way out for Trump. It was a very clear thing that Trump was on the side of the donor class."
—Dan (87:33)
"For Alex, he heard Max say that line, and he immediately recognized that it was good branding. So he's trying to repackage it with Roger and sell it as a way for them to support Trump in the future."
—Dan (87:33)
8. The Roger Stone Segment: SPIN, Scapegoating, and Passive-Aggressive Tension
Timestamps: 85:30–121:20
- Roger Stone joins to give Trump cover, but can’t hide the obvious. He repeats “Clinton, Summers, Podesta” (already public figures related to Epstein), tries to say no “real Republicans” are implicated, and brings up Pizzagate (99:04).
- Dan demolishes the GOP/Dem scapegoat line with actual House voting numbers: virtually every Dem, but only four Republicans, supported releasing Epstein files. The “Dems want a cover-up” spin is a bald lie (94:04–95:32).
- Alex grows impatient with Roger’s relentless positivity and obvious shilling.
- They end with a hilarious, cringe-inducing exchange about whether beef or "a good piece of ass" is better, followed by Roger pointedly plugging Alex’s methylene blue supplements instead of answering. The passive-aggressive tension is unmistakable (116:50–118:28).
Notable Quotes:
"You can't have an appropriate relationship with Epstein. You cannot do it."
—Jordan (89:40)
"What do you like better, beef or pussy?"
—Alex Jones (117:18)
"Alex, you know what? This is a hard week in Washington, DC. I gotta say this. You don't pay me to say it... This methylene blue stuff..."
—Roger Stone, spectacularly pivoting to an ad (117:32)
Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps
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"You don't wink, wink, go along with sex trafficking conspiracies. Like you don't cover up that stuff up on a wink."
—Dan (16:52) -
"It's fundamentally all just kind of like Alex being a baby with a wet diaper. Like he's lashing out. Except that Alex is the baby and Trump pissed in his diaper."
—Dan (39:02) -
"We're not like Democrats that'll just cover up evil because it's, quote, our party. ...I'm not a Republican. I'm a populist Christian patriot. ...not like the Democrats who will cover up evil because that defends the party."
—Alex Jones (55:34 & 56:41, analyzed by Dan) -
"If the folks on the right were wise, they'd... start trying to cultivate a really fun asshole."
—Dan (69:28) -
"What do you like better, beef or pussy?"
—Alex Jones (117:18)
"Alex, you know what? This is a hard week in Washington, DC. I gotta say this..."
—Roger Stone, shifting directly into a product pitch (117:32)
The Hosts’ Final Analysis
- Alex’s conception of himself as a populist outsider is obliterated by his desperate attempts to excuse Trump’s Epstein cover-up.
- The right is fracturing, with all factions turning on one another as Trump’s utility and myth collapse under scandal and corruption.
- Alex, Roger, and their circle are not only out of touch with their base but locked in cycles of personal resentment, with only “who can shill most shamelessly?” left to contest.
- Dan and Jordan close with a sense that Infowars, and perhaps Alex himself, are out of road:
"He is a unique cat. ...all the good unique stuff was in the past. We’re essentially in—every far right figure is existing now in the same place where they’re like, I thought we were cool in the past. And now that I’m reaping, this sucks." (114:00)
Key Moments & Timestamps Index
| Segment Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|:------------------:| | Banter & “Bright Spot” | 01:09–07:22 | | Thematic Setup: Why This Episode Matters | 07:22–14:54 | | Trump, Epstein & MAGA Fractures | 14:54–25:07 | | Infowars’ Brand Identity Crisis | 25:07–41:27 | | Surreal Rhetoric & Excuses | 41:27–52:49 | | Factionalism & “Finding the Next Asshole”| 52:49–70:09 | | Max Blumenthal Segment | 70:09–79:57 | | Roger Stone Spins and Passive-Aggression | 85:30–121:20 | | The Beef or Pussy Finale | 116:50–121:20 |
Tone and Style
Retaining their trademark dry humor and sardonic wit, Dan and Jordan toggle between amusement at Alex Jones’ antics and serious reflection on the dangers of cultish loyalty, conspiratorial thinking, and the deepening splintering of American right-wing politics. Their banter keeps the mood buoyant even as they dissect moments of real-world significance and personal absurdity from Alex and his guests.
TL;DR — Summing Up
This episode captures Infowars in meltdown: Alex Jones, total kompromat victim, makes excuses for Trump’s cover-up, bickers with Roger Stone, lurches towards overt anti-Semitism, and ultimately seeks refuge in crass masculinity (“beef or pussy?”). Dan and Jordan’s smart, irreverent analysis lays bare the exhaustion and collapse of the MAGA coalition—and the twilight of Alex’s anti-establishment persona.
