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Marty Schacter
Red alert. Red alert.
Jordan
Red alert. Red alert.
Marty Schacter
Red alert.
Dan
Red alert.
Marty Schacter
Red alert.
Dan
Red alert.
Marty Schacter
Red alert.
Dan
Nop. Nope.
Alex Jones
Nop. Knowledge fight.
Dan
Dan and Jordan.
Alex Jones
I am sweating. Knowledgebody.com. it's time to pray.
Marty Schacter
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
Alex Jones
Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.
Jordan
Dan and George.
Marty Schacter
Knowledge Fight.
Dan
Need. Need money.
Alex Jones
Andy in Kansas.
Dan
Andy and Andy.
Alex Jones
Stop it. Andy and Chan. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Marty Schacter
Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your word.
Jordan
Knowledge Fight.
Alex Jones
Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.
Dan
Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
Jordan
I'm Jordan.
Dan
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Jordan
Oh, indeed we are. Dan.
Dan
Jordan.
Jordan
Dan, Jordan, Quick question for you, buddy.
Dan
What's up?
Jordan
What's your bright spot today?
Dan
Why don't you go first? Because it's December and you always go first in December.
Jordan
That's our new rule. That's just how it works. Well, my bright spot today is there, it's the end of the year, December, of course.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
And this is when people start putting out all their best of the year music lists and movie lists and all that shit.
Dan
It'd be weird if they did that at a different time of year.
Jordan
It would be strange. And so this year I have been more disconnected from the Internet and like the music and all of that than I ever have before. So I was listening to some of those and I realized that there's a new open mike Eagle album for 2025 and it's fantastic.
Dan
I feel like I've heard you talking about that on this show. I know about this. How do you not know?
Jordan
No, no, no. That was the last one. That was the last one that I had found. He puts out an album every year or so, I think.
Dan
Sure, sure.
Jordan
But yeah, it's really good. There's a song about Superman.
Dan
Pro or anti.
Jordan
It's. It's very. How about, let's put it this way, it's very much like, hey, everybody at the Daily Planet, you know that's fucking Superman, right? Why are you. Why are you gaslighting me? Why are y' all gaslighting me?
Dan
You're journalists, right?
Jordan
Absolutely.
Dan
You're trained to ask the five questions you're looking at this guy. Nope. No questions here.
Jordan
Nope. Yeah, it's It's. No. And it's a really great album because that is kind of emblematic of the whole way that he. He manages to take these very small, like, mundane pop culture things and pull really, really solid found metaphors out of him. So it's just a great album. It's a great album.
Dan
Was it any. Any. Any discussion of crypto the dog?
Jordan
Crypto the dog? Oh, I was going to say. I was like, does he have a crypto referee?
Alex Jones
I know the dog.
Dan
The cool ass flying dog in the new Superman.
Jordan
No, unfortunately, we don't. I believe he was pulling more from the old Daily Planet days for comic strip days.
Dan
Fair enough. At least one of those people, Jimmy Olsen, is just a liar. He knows.
Jordan
Sure. Oh, that is true.
Dan
I mean, he knows who Superman is.
Jordan
He. Well, Lois Lane knows.
Dan
Right, right. And she works there. So the two of them both work there. And they're. Yeah, they're. They're liars.
Jordan
They're probably gossip. There's a lot of people that go out after dinner or go out for dinner and stuff like that. Everybody does.
Dan
Reporters drink, man. They drink.
Jordan
Absolutely. There's no way that she hasn't let slip that she's fucked Superman, right?
Dan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that. I mean, status.
Jordan
Yeah, absolutely.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Even if you don't say it's Clark, you're just like, hey, you know, Super Bowl. Okay.
Dan
That from the song?
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
So my bright spot, Jordan, is that it is the 15th. It is December 15, and as is tradition through December, it is time for some cheese. It's time for cheese. It's time for cheese.
Jordan
Dance cheese, Advent calendars. As long as Jordan doesn't ruin it with shitty vamping.
Dan
Thank you. Thank you so much, Nick.
Jordan
God, what a winner.
Dan
Got a little dig in on Jordan.
Jordan
I like a good stab through the back. That's.
Dan
I like. I. I like the idea, too, that this is. Stings and jingles are evolving as we go along to reflect what the segment has become.
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
So it is the 15th, more than halfway through this. This advent calendar, and I've got. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta chew on Aldi's ear a little bit here. I gotta. I got a problem. I gotta. I gotta. Got a dark spot here.
Jordan
All right.
Dan
And that is they advertise that there's 24 cheeses and we've already repeated cheeses.
Jordan
Wow. I mean, technically, we have yet to really repeat a cheese.
Dan
That's not true. I got a mature gouda again.
Jordan
Oh, never mind.
Dan
Yeah, no, repeated a cheese in terms of what we've done in the cheese jingle show. Sure. No, there's not been any repeats. But in my personal life, I have opened up one of these boxes and seen like, oh, this is just the same thing again. And that I think is a cop out. I think that's cheap. There's 24 possible cheeses. Get it together.
Jordan
Yes. But maybe Aldi knows that you have a personal cheese at a professional cheese life that needs to be shared. So they're like, maybe he would like another mature gouda in his personal life.
Dan
No. And if I. And if I did, I would go get it. I would. I would take that matter into my own hands.
Jordan
That does seem.
Dan
I'm opening up creek, opening up these little boxes on the advent calendar. I'm like, oh, I fucking love this one. Guess what? It exists. I can go find it.
Jordan
You're just. You just don't believe that Aldi knows what's best for you. And I think that you have made a grave mistake when you don't trust them.
Dan
I definitely agree that I don't think they know what's best for me. But today we have a new one, a new little cheese, and it might be. It might be a little bit appropriate. Okay, Might be a little bit appropriate because this is cheddar with whiskey.
Jordan
Okay. All right.
Dan
Yeah, might be. It might get wasted on this cheese. And now we come.
Jordan
Good idea.
Dan
We come to the part where Jordan vamps and I eat this cheese.
Jordan
Right. I think whiskey at this time of the year is fantastic. Especially today. I don't know if it will be clear from the, like description later on, but we are recording this remotely. It is roughly 0 degrees outside in Chicago and it's the type of temperature that where people add the feels like to it. Nobody ever adds a temperature like, feels like 55. Nope. It's. It's 0 degrees and it feels like you're gonna die. Or it's 105 degrees and it feels like 130. Like there's never a good. It feels like when it comes to temperature. So that is kind of how it is outside right now.
Dan
Yeah. It never feels like nicer.
Jordan
Feels like better than you would have expected. Not going to happen.
Dan
So a cheddar on whiskey is mighty risky. Got him wasted. I wasted bite of this cheese.
Jordan
I fucked up an open mike eagle.
Dan
Lyric or a space ghost episode.
Jordan
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Dan
Shark on beer is a beer engineer.
Jordan
That is old Kentucky cheese and it has been there.
Dan
Yeah. You know what? I don't really taste whiskey at all in that. This just tastes like a Cheddar. And it tastes like a fine cheddar. I'm not mad at it, but yeah, it could have. This could have a little more whiskey in it.
Jordan
How do you infuse the taste of cheese with whiskey? Do you know what I mean?
Dan
I imagine as it's aging, you maybe like barrel soak it or something like that. I don't know. I know that you infuse things by soaking them.
Jordan
Okay.
Dan
Because there's some cheeses that are like soaked in espresso or whatever, and it gets in the rind.
Jordan
That's more information than I had. So it's. See, like if you had just come up to me and said, oh, they soak this cheese in a barrel, I would have been very surprised and laughed at you, probably because that doesn't sound real. But I guess they might. I guess they might just soak cheese in barrels these days.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
All right.
Dan
In a barrel. You're fine. I'm wasted.
Jordan
I mean, you had. You had a little bit of chewing in there. That definitely. That's a little fragile.
Marty Schacter
Yeah.
Dan
Put it in bugger's vent. What are we doing, Jordan? Why are we here?
Jordan
We are recording an episode of the podcast.
Dan
That's right. We're doing it remotely because it's cold outside and I didn't want you to have to come over here.
Jordan
Feels like cold outside.
Dan
It's so damn cold. And unfortunately, because we're doing this remotely, I don't have the wonk sound effect, so I can't give a shout out to any wonks. But in place of that, something that I would like to do is discuss. Maybe not and maybe. I don't know if it's a bright spot, but it's something that happened last night, Jordan.
Jordan
Okay. Are you going to talk about somebody who in particular who might.
Dan
Yeah, sure. Let's make them a walk.
Jordan
Yoked, very ripped.
Dan
Yeah. Maybe an honorary wonk of some sort. Yeah.
Jordan
Oh, I like that.
Dan
Last night we witnessed John Cena's last match in the wwe. He is gone. The last time is passed. And I almost. I almost cried. I was close. Really, I was close. I got sentimental. Yeah, for sure.
Jordan
I have. So this is. This is something that I do want you to talk about because we have had many conversations about John Cena over the years based upon your whimsical nature of liking and disliking him. And I think that has been the wrestling fans entire experience. Right. Isn't that what I'm hearing?
Dan
I've always liked him, but I think some stretches of his Career are pretty boring. I think that sometimes things weren't going that great, and I think some booking decisions were obviously, like, wrong. But I've always thought, like, he has something going for himself. He's a cut above the norm. And he seems like a great guy. Like, in terms of. He has a really good public image of, like, I spend all my time doing all this make a wish shit. Yeah, I am. I have a good sense of humor about myself. I'll let myself be the butt of jokes and movies and, you know, late night appearances. I don't care. I don't take myself too seriously.
Jordan
Actual scar. Yeah.
Dan
And I think that that charm has always been there. And. And yeah, I like the guy. I think, you know, sometimes he's boring, but sure.
Jordan
I just think that he's kind of. From what I've read.
Dan
Because Bray should have won. Yes, okay. Exactly. That's fine.
Jordan
From what I've read. No, but from what I've read about Cena's current retirement and eventual unretirement is that his relationship with the fans has been like, they have either liked or disliked him. And sometimes on the same show, it's just a very random feeling kind of relationship in terms of liking and disliking.
Dan
He won all the time. And for, like, no one beat him. For you had like, Hulk Hogan level. No one can beat him. And so people did turn on his super Cena Ness. And so, like, there was a stretch of time where people would have, like, signs that say, if Cena wins, we riot. And it would become a thing where people would chant, let's go Cena. Cena sucks. Let's go Cena. Like, dueling chants would break out pretty regularly.
Jordan
Right, well, that explains America right now. That explains it all, doesn't it?
Dan
Well, and the fact that that is like a sustainable thing that someone can do is such a testament to how good they are as a performer that you're getting these reactions out of people. And, you know, I think in this last stretch, him, like, the going bad heel turn stuff didn't work. But that was the Rock's fault. I think that I would 100% think that's the Rock's fault. But yeah, the last match, obviously he had to lose. It was destined to lose. And he was. He went. He was against Gunter, the Nazi fella, the giant Nazi fella on the lineup.
Jordan
I'm sorry. So the American hero lost to the Nazi.
Dan
Yeah. And he. John Cena, his whole thing is hustle, loyalty, respect, never give up. And he tapped out and he Tapped out. Yeah.
Jordan
That is a metaphor. That is dark. That is a dark metaphor.
Dan
It is. Especially considering, like, he. After the match, you know, like, there's this big ceremony. Everybody comes out to the ring and is standing around. He kisses the mat, but also the mat is. It says Riyadh season on it. It's just dark. It's just dark.
Jordan
This is a dark timeline, man.
Dan
All really normal stuff. Like, he's got to lose to a heel in his last match, right? He's got to kiss the mat, show the respect for wrestling. He's got to do all these things, but because of the world we live in, it's all, like, just right. It's just reflected in a crazy house mirror slightly.
Jordan
Right, right, right. So he has to lose to the heel. So the story going in is avenging Cena just immediately right out the gate, taking it away from the bad guy.
Dan
No, no, you have to go out on your back if you're like a big guy, because you got to put over the next generation, you know, like, you winning doesn't do anything except for your ego is stroked by you won the last match. Whereas if you're someone like Cena, someone retiring you and beating you in your last match can be really good for them going forward. So he has to do that. If he wins his last match, he's an asshole. That's basically. That's the understanding that everybody has gotcha. And it's better if it's a real heel who beats him, because then they can be. He can be like, I fucking beat your hero, you piece of shit. You all suck. You can't compare to me, the Nazi ring general.
Jordan
Right, right, right. He wasn't even going to retire that. That show. He was going to retire the next show, but I kicked his ass too hard. He had to retire.
Dan
Well, I don't know if you could pull that off, because the whole thing was. Kept talking about how this is his last night.
Jordan
It did feel very obvious.
Dan
Yeah, it was fun, though. Like, that, you know, walk down memory lane of stuff. And, like, they had a lot of great video packages of his career and, like, past opponents and stuff. That was really sweet. Like CM Punk's interview. Like, when they were talking to him, he was, like, crying, like, he had tears in his eyes. Talking about how, like, everybody thought I hated you, but in reality, I've always just been following your lead. And, oh, my God, that was beautiful. But then there was also the Rock, and the Rock made Ceta's retirement all about him.
Jordan
What? I can't believe that.
Dan
Yeah. You earned a great retirement. And we did some great matches together. It was.
Jordan
Come see my upcoming Movie, Black Adam 2.
Dan
Get some Taremana tequila.
Jordan
Do you know what? You remind me a lot of the Smashing Machine out last summer. Yeah.
Dan
No one can make me watch that movie. It is. You have to. You'll have to Clockwork Orange me in order to never get asked to see that. But anyway, it was a nice time. I had a. I had a. I had a. I had a blast, I guess. I guess. I don't know.
Jordan
I mean, you know, it was a moment in your life, and those are sometimes tough to come by. Right.
Dan
It's weird, too, to have somebody who's like, you know, he is a star now. He doesn't have to do this. He's in movies, and he's in movies.
Jordan
With Idris Elba as the prime minister, and he's the President of the United States. So let's not say he's, like, in movies for wrestlers.
Dan
That's huge.
Jordan
That's fair. That's fair. That's fair.
Dan
Compared to the movies Hulk Hogan was doing, like, and John Cena's in the Fast and Furious franchise. Like, he's. You know, he's doing things.
Jordan
You're right. You're right.
Dan
And also, he didn't hurt himself in some terrible way, so he's retiring in a way that's not like. Sorry. This sucks.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
It's strange. You rarely get to see these weird moments like this. People in that industry either usually die or. It's really sad. And so, like, this was weird.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
Anyway, Via con Dios. John Cena, is she.
Jordan
All the best until we see you again. Stay in shape, buddy.
Dan
But Bray should have won. So, Jordan, today we have an episode we're gonna be doing here, and I knew that we were going to be recording remotely, and so I wanted to do something that wasn't going to be too difficult. Too hard. Too straining on our emotions.
Jordan
Sure.
Dan
And then also, I had. I had a feeling that this last couple months, I've been trying real hard to give you superpowers. I've put you through a real gauntlet of shit. And maybe that's not fair. Maybe. Maybe you deserve a break. Maybe. Maybe we shouldn't just be trying to push your buttons all the time. Maybe. Maybe we should do something nice.
Jordan
Two Brits. Two Brits who talk too much and are awful people. That's two.
Dan
Yeah. Yeah. And even beyond that, you know, there's Elijah Schaefer and a possible Elijah Schaefer. Full episode that still could be coming. There's other things that I'm going to do in the future that this is sort of an apology in advance for.
Jordan
Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, thanks. That's pleasant.
Dan
So what I thought I would do is I would put together just a nice walk through the park of times that Marty Schacter, Alex's soap sponsor, has been on the show and done limericks.
Jordan
Oh, God. This might be the happiest day of the year.
Dan
So we can.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
And I think that this, like, really leans into some of your skills as an English major, as someone who likes.
Jordan
Literature, as somebody who ruins things with bad vamping.
Dan
Yeah, yeah. Ooh, Vamping and vaping. That's the. Whoa.
Jordan
Is that us? Is that our new after show about when we talk about knowledge Fight?
Dan
Yep.
Jordan
On Hulu. Mm.
Dan
So, yeah, I just. I have a collection of Marty Schacter. Some limericks, some not, some very much not.
Jordan
I'm in. I couldn't be more in. I just want to hear limericks for the rest of the day.
Dan
So these are all in chronological order. These are like in terms of his first appearance, as things go on, as he gets a little bit more comfortable with being on the show.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
And maybe pushes things too far.
Jordan
Are you saying that we are doing an evolution of Schachter episode?
Dan
Yeah, yeah. This is a deep dive on the soap, man.
Jordan
I love it.
Dan
So here is the first time that Marty was on the show and goes for a limerick. And it's a real simple one. This is just a nice old man again.
Alex Jones
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Marty Schacter
Thank you very much. Can I close with a poem?
Alex Jones
Sure.
Marty Schacter
The little soul. He has no time for birth control. That is why in times like these we have so many sons of bees.
Alex Jones
They're funny. Take care.
Marty Schacter
Thank you.
Alex Jones
You bet. He's a real character, folks. You can hear the phones ringing.
Dan
Yeah, there's a real. Is a real character right there. Sons of bees.
Jordan
I like that. I like that For a couple of reasons. One, if this is his first time and he's throwing out, can I close with a poem? Alex does not actually know what is about to happen, right?
Dan
I think not. I would assume not. I mean, like, who knows what goes on in contracts, you know, like, there could have been a deep negotiation that went on. But I will say at this point, I do have some context. Like, Marty Schacter was only a sponsor with Genesis Communications, and Alex wanted him to be a, like, direct sponsor for Alex as opposed to sponsoring Alex through gcn. And so at this point, he is, like, hooked up with Ted Anderson and the GCN folks. So Alex isn't. He's not directly sponsored by him yet. At the point when he's doing this be. Limerick, this B poem.
Jordan
That's more of a couple. That's a couplet. There's a. There's two lines, two rhymes. I like that. That's a little four spot.
Dan
Yeah. These bees, they're busy souls. They don't have time for birth controls.
Jordan
Do you think he wrote that on his own, or do you think he grabbed that from somewhere?
Dan
Tough to say. Also, the bee population is dropping.
Jordan
They're not enough sons of bees, frankly, at this point in time, that's what it feels like.
Dan
Yes. He's totally wrong.
Jordan
Somehow, even when they're just doing borderline innocuous poems, they're wrong about something horrible.
Dan
Yeah, but, I mean, bees should wrap it up. Sure. Cool. So a little bit later, Marty is back on the show, and Alex has him bring out a little limerick.
Marty Schacter
We sold a factory direct, and it was. We still got people after all these years buying our products for themselves, their new families or whatever.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty, let me give people the number. 800-3407-918003-40791. God bless you, my friend. We'll talk to you again soon.
Marty Schacter
Alex, thank you. Let me close with a little tiny poem. A bee's a busy little soul. He has no time for birth control. That is why in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.
Alex Jones
Take care, my friend.
Marty Schacter
Thank you, Alex.
Alex Jones
There goes Marty. What a character.
Dan
Yeah. What a character. Did the same fucking poem.
Jordan
That was the second time. And he did the same poem. All right.
Dan
He did the same poem.
Jordan
All right, so let's have a post this one conversation between Alex and Marty right here. Because to me, I'm hearing this and I'm going, well, this man's gonna try and make this the same bit every single time that we see each other. So I need to nip this in the bud right now. I need you to never do a poem again, Marty.
Dan
I need you to either never do a poem or you need some. You need a new bit, man. You can't be coming to my show and doing the same material. The audience is. They're not responding anymore. The B stuff is dead. You burned it.
Jordan
This is not 80s comedy. You can't be touring the same hour, buddy. You got to rewrite, rewrite, rewrite. You got to go.
Dan
And I know the B bit is good. It's strong. I understand that. But, yeah, you gotta keep moving. You gotta keep moving.
Jordan
Cause you're on the right path. We love being mean about birth control here. That's what we're here to do. So add more lines, write new poems about birth control, but do not do the same poem ever again. I cannot fake laugh anymore.
Dan
Now you've touched on something interesting. Because I think that Marty's folksiness and what the implication of the limerick is, is. Is supporting of birth control. I think that this is actually counter to the beliefs that Alex would want. Like, there would be less sons of bees out there if people were using birth control.
Jordan
But they don't want people to use birth control because then there won't be enough white people. That's the next part of these poems. It needs to be more about white people.
Dan
This is in, like, the 2006, 2007 period. So that might have been too strong for the time.
Jordan
Right, right, right, right. It was different. Yeah, that's fair. Passionate conservatism.
Dan
I'm not sure if Marty got a note from Alex that, like, what you're saying of, like, you got to get some new bits, stop it with a B thing. But he does branch out for his next appearance, and instead of having a poem, he has a life philosophy.
Alex Jones
Okay, Marty, thank you for being one of the few companies, I guess, left in this country. And thank you for your amazing product. We've got to get it in Whole Foods grocery stores. Have you tried that yet? Because I've been for years buying organic subs there, and a lot of them are really harsh. Super expensive. Even more than the normal toxic stuff at the regular grocery store. Have you tried to get your.
Marty Schacter
Yes. I'll tell you a story about that on our next visit. I'd like to end with a little. Just a little philosophy. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That's why they call it the present.
Alex Jones
Marty. Take care.
Marty Schacter
Thank you, Alex.
Alex Jones
He is something else.
Dan
He sure is.
Jordan
This makes me think he did not. He did not write the previous poem.
Dan
No, he fucking saw them on a Hallmark card. Also, marty schacter fought in world war ii.
Jordan
Do you know what's crazy? Do you know what he said on VJ Day. Let me close with the poem.
Dan
Yeah. Every single time there's a D Day memorial, he comes up with a limerick. There once was a man from Normandy.
Jordan
I have a question. His wife thought he was a morbundy.
Dan
I believe you said you had a question.
Jordan
Sorry. All right, so once we've established that this man likes to close things out with his own little sign off. Right. Do you think this extends to other places in his life, or do you think this is just like, I'm on the radio, I have to have a sign off.
Dan
I see. No, it's not just the radio. I assume it's gotta be. Yeah, I think when Alex says he's a character, I think that's true. I think he's probably a fucking character. And he's a lot to deal with.
Jordan
You don't say it literally every time unless there's something about it. That Barney, he's a real character, isn't he?
Dan
But I also think, like, that's a pleasant character for the most part. He's an old man who's a little bit annoying, who likes to tell, like, little poems.
Jordan
Yeah, I've met that guy so many times. Fairly benign. Sure, there's an annoyance there. But you know what? Sometimes it hits the spot. It's almost like a little nostalgia burst. You're like, you do it, old man. You fucking keep it going.
Dan
Yeah. And he fought in World War II. He's still got a little spark of life in him that he wants to entertain people. Come on. Let the man be.
Jordan
If that's. That should be our only true, like, law in this country. I'm against all laws except for one. If you fought in a war, you get to do limericks.
Dan
No, no, it's got to be a specific kind of war. It's got, like, World War II is. Is a war that I think we can all look back on as, like, it's defensible.
Jordan
The last good limerick war.
Dan
The last war that justifies limericks.
Jordan
Right. Gotcha. You can't do limericks if you went to Vietnam. Let's just get that out of the way. Nobody can do limericks for Vietnam.
Dan
No. And if you're about to go to Venezuela, you can't do limericks.
Jordan
Not anymore.
Dan
No. So Marty comes back with the heat and this. Actually, I found this one a little confusing.
Jordan
Okay.
Alex Jones
And I was really excited to hear that your phones melted off the walls for three days last time we had you on. I wish we had that type of response here with my videos.
Marty Schacter
We were going crazy here the People kept calling. They want soap. They don't want detergents. They don't want to be ripped off in the marketplace with all these poisons. And this is what we're there to help you. There's nothing, nothing what we offer any marketplace anywhere. This is something we are proud of. I'd like to close with a limerick.
Alex Jones
Sure, go ahead.
Marty Schacter
There was a young monk from Siberia whose life grew dreary and dreary. So a night with a yell, he escaped from his cell and eloped with a Mother Superior.
Alex Jones
Thank you, Marty. Always good to talk to you, Alex.
Marty Schacter
Talk to you soon.
Alex Jones
You better take care.
Dan
Okay. So there's a monk in Siberia.
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
Whose life sucks.
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
And Siberia, he runs away with Mother Superior.
Jordan
I think there's a lot of problems I have. First off, I am strongly against slant rhymes. I don't know if this has been made clear in our. In our 1100 odd episodes, but slant rhymes are, I think, a cruel joke that terrible writers play on the rest of us. And two, what. What kind of monastery is he at?
Dan
That's what I was struggling with, because I feel like we hear monk in Siberia. I'm thinking a Buddhist monk, maybe. I'm thinking maybe in the mountains. You know, I am. I'm definitely not thinking somewhere close to a nunnery or where Mother Superior would be.
Jordan
Well, I mean, you could go with, like, a Russian Orthodox monk, sure.
Dan
But is a monastery connected to a nunnery?
Jordan
Not that I'm aware of, but who knows? You know, some people have. Some people have, like, little separate areas. I have no idea.
Dan
Yeah, maybe. Maybe this is. Maybe there's a wisdom to this limerick that's beyond the credit that we're giving it.
Jordan
Maybe there's something deeper here within this limerick. And actually, this was set by a man who is trying to escape from Siberia.
Dan
Maybe it's Marty taking the piss out of religion.
Jordan
That's possible.
Dan
You commit yourself to religion and you're a monk and, oh, God, your life sucks. It's awful. But you know what? Go run away with this lady.
Jordan
I posit this to you. I posit this to you. This man is the least interesting character in this entire story. All right. What is the Mother Superior's internal life like, where she has made it all the way up to Mother Superior at a monastery, clearly male, controlled.
Dan
Sure.
Jordan
Right. And then she has been seduced. Or did she seduce this man who is lazy and bored?
Dan
It's hard to say. But the implication, I think, from listening to it is, clearly, she wasn't kidnapped. They alone no, she was not. There was a choice that she made to go away with the Monk.
Jordan
We can assume there was a loving relationship at the end of this limerick.
Marty Schacter
Yes.
Dan
And his life was less drearier once he left Siberia.
Jordan
You know what's crazy? I fucking. I was vibing with Schechter's belief in soap. I felt that that was a true man who was proud of his goddamn soap. The people, they want soap, they don't want detergent. That was, that was heartfelt.
Dan
Yeah, you'll hear that a lot from him if you listen to his interviews. He is the people deeply passionate about. Well, first of all, hating detergent. And then just like this, like he is a fucking soap guy. Like he's not trying to branch out into other things. It's. It's kind of refreshing in some way. Like this.
Jordan
Soap man through and through.
Dan
Yeah. Yep. So this next one is the first time we get a little bit of.
Jordan
A little cheeky, a little saucy limerick.
Dan
Uh huh.
Marty Schacter
And we've been doing this, and this is our year, the 60th year of getting soap back into the home again and saying to Proctor, Lever and Colgate, I don't need you anymore.
Alex Jones
That's right. You guys started in 1947.
Dan
So.
Alex Jones
So you're now celebrating your 60th birthday year.
Marty Schacter
And our slogan here is our business is going down the drain.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty. Calvinpiersoub.com or five star soap.com or 1-800-340791 thanks for coming on, Marty, and we'll talk to you again.
Marty Schacter
I'd like to leave a thought for today. The thought for today is sex on television is not harmful unless you fall off.
Alex Jones
Take care, my friend.
Marty Schacter
Thank you, Alex.
Dan
All right.
Alex Jones
Good to talk to Marty. What a character.
Dan
What a character.
Jordan
Isn't that a Woody Allen joke?
Dan
Yeah, probably.
Jordan
I think I want to say that's a Woody Allen joke. That was in his. That was in his. Like, sex between two people is amazing. So provided it's the right two people. That one.
Dan
Yeah. I'm sure it's in a. It's in 100 books of jokes. Sure. Yeah. Oh no. Oh no.
Jordan
Marty Schachter, that Marty Schaxter supports Woody out. That's what I want to be clear on this. This is, this is my end now. This is why I don't like him. Because his folksy attitude and his love of soap win me over very quickly.
Dan
But his ripping off of Woody Allen makes you suspicious.
Jordan
Of course. Of course. Please don't tell me he's adopted me.
Dan
2007, 2008. It was a different time. People didn't know about Woody Allen's tough. But like, I think that's a little ribbled. I think that's a little. A little. Alex is probably feeling a little bit. Oh, the homeschooled kids listening.
Jordan
Well, I hope his next joke isn't from Roman Polanski.
Dan
It is not, but it is. It's from a famous figure. Okay, this is attributed to Abraham Lincoln. I don't think Abraham Lincoln said this.
Alex Jones
Okay, Marty, we'll talk to you soon and give us your limerick.
Marty Schacter
This is from 1870. Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. I'm not sure if it's so, but some say it is attributed. It goes like this. Drinking beer from a tomato can will never kill a man. Drinking beer won't kill a man, but an old tomato can.
Alex Jones
Take care, Marty.
Marty Schacter
Thank you, Alex.
Alex Jones
You bet. What a character, folks.
Dan
You take care. What a character. What a character. Yep.
Jordan
When Lincoln have said this.
Dan
Gettysburg.
Jordan
Hey, guys. Hey, real quick. Before I start the main speech, can I do a little warm up for everybody? I got some bits and then I'll get into the four score. You know what I'm saying?
Dan
But four score and 20 tomato cans.
Jordan
I just want to open with a. I got some hot new tomato can material.
Dan
You can drink beer out of a tomato can. Be. Won't kill a man, but a tomato can.
Marty Schacter
We.
Jordan
We don't drink beer out of tomato cans. Shut up. I'll do my brain speech later. God damn it.
Dan
That's it. I'm freeing the slaves.
Jordan
That's it there. Everybody's free.
Dan
Everybody's free.
Jordan
Do you like that?
Dan
It's Civil War. It's Civil War time. You don't like my tomato limerick?
Marty Schacter
Was.
Jordan
It was the tomato can. The one that did it was at the end.
Dan
It could have been. So that's. That is weird. That's a weird one.
Jordan
Yep. Yep. That doesn't make any sense to me. I recognize that there. It's a play on the number of times you could put. And in there.
Marty Schacter
No.
Dan
Yeah. No, it makes sense grammatically. And an old tomato can kill you. That's. That's true. But beer can kill you, too. And so can drinking out of an old can. You get tetanus or, you know, something like. So all of that stuff could kill you.
Marty Schacter
Here's.
Jordan
Here's what the problem is, right? I. We live in the. In the post Lincoln times. So once you say old drink beer from an old tomato can, I'm like, that's Botulism. Sir, please do not tell me any more of this joke. You need to go to the hospital as soon as possible.
Dan
Yeah, you guys didn't even understand canning back then. You didn't, like, boil the right jars and.
Jordan
Come on, man, start.
Dan
Yeah, so that one, I think, makes total sense, but is kind of dumb. But the next time that he's on, Marty's got a little limerick, of course. And then Alex asks for clarification. What was that Lincoln one about?
Alex Jones
Marty, thank you for spending time with us again today.
Marty Schacter
Thank you. I've just got a poem for you.
Alex Jones
I always love to hear him.
Marty Schacter
I'm dedicating this to my hero, Alex Jones. Bees. A busy little soul. He has no time for birth control. That is why in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.
Alex Jones
Now, last week, or, excuse me, last month when you were on with us, I didn't get the limerick or the pun or the joke about potato or tomato cans and Lincoln, none of us understood that. Can you break that down for us?
Marty Schacter
From the 1800s, they think it's from one of the stories of Abraham Lincoln at that time. And it just goes like, drinking beer from a tomato can never kill a man. Drinking beer won't kill a man. But an ultimatum can.
Alex Jones
All right, now I get it, Marty.
Dan
Now you get it.
Jordan
How does that make it more clear?
Dan
He just said it again.
Jordan
All right. Oh, now I get it. A tomato. Did he actually not understand the, like, removal of an additional word and how the tomato can is a double entendre for the can?
Dan
He said that no one around here got it. So that implies that everyone at Infowars, they were, like, talking to each other. Like, Marty's usually like, he makes a lot of sense, but what the fuck was up with that tomato thing?
Jordan
And not just that, but they were also talking about Lincoln while they were doing it. They were like, how did Lincoln involve himself within this tomato can bin?
Dan
It's attributed to our great former president. So you brought the B1 back.
Jordan
Oh, man. I know. So the last one, he said, oh, go ahead, Marty, give us your poem. So he already knew that Marty was planning on giving a poem. So I think we've established now that every time we see martyr, shit's going down.
Dan
Yeah. By this point, Alex has become resigned to his fate. I think that, like, this guy is just gonna do a poem, and it's unfortunate when one of them is one he's done many times before. But, you know, it's hard to get sponsors.
Jordan
Not everybody listens to the show every single day. Not everybody is listening at every Marty appearance. So it's brand new to somebody.
Dan
Mm.
Jordan
That's live radio.
Dan
Sure. It's like Must see tv. It's new to you if you didn't see it. Reruns.
Jordan
Absolutely.
Dan
So you were asking earlier about, like the idea if. If Marty is like this because he's on air or if he's always like this.
Jordan
Yes.
Dan
And I think he's always like this because he is. He's trying to evolve the bit. Like he's. He's gone from like, I'm doing. I'm doing the same limerick. I'm doing a little bit more limericks I'm doing. I'm now demanding that I end with a limerick. And at a certain point, he introduces sound effects.
Alex Jones
And Marty, I heard you wrote us a poem. I'm touched.
Marty Schacter
Yes, I did. Are you ready?
Alex Jones
Yes.
Marty Schacter
Jones keeps on flowing with info that is growing, so you've earned this short poem. No like it. You don't know him. Alex, your bliss itself, you win. You touch all bases. If you were packaged on a shelf, I buy 12 dozen cases. Your rating is quadruple A at Genesis. You're the most business wise. I've got to say, you are my favorite host.
Alex Jones
You're a sweetheart, Marty. Marty. Marty's now doing sound effects for us. Hey, Marty, how'd you make that sound effect?
Marty Schacter
I got all these people here. I got 2,000 people standing here listening.
Alex Jones
To me listen, you're a sweetheart, Marty. Always love talking to you. And take care of my friend.
Marty Schacter
Talk to you soon.
Dan
Thank you.
Alex Jones
Take care. I tell you, that's a sweet old man right there, folks.
Dan
That is a sweet old man.
Jordan
Here's what I love about that. I love, I love whenever you can audibly hear somebody go, no point in keeping this going. Whatever. He's like, hey, how did you do that sound effect? And Marty gives that explanation. He's like, hey, great to see you. No follow ups. I don't want any more. There's no way that continuing this line of thought is going to end well for me. So we're done.
Dan
But meanwhile, you can also feel Marty want to continue to play because he's like, oh, I've got this huge crowd here. There's 2,000 people watching me.
Jordan
Yeah, let's mix it up, buddy. How do you feel about this crowd over here?
Dan
He's ambitious. Like, he is a guy who's like, I fucking love soap. I've made this soap company, but I am now allowed to be on a radio show. I am going to live my dream. I'm gonna make the most of it. I'm gonna fuck around.
Jordan
Yep. It is hard not to believe that Marty truly lives in a completely different world. That the rest of us. And like all of the. All of the stuff that normally bothers people just bounces off because this man cares about soap and limericks. And that's it. The end.
Dan
And annoying Alex as part of a financial agreement.
Jordan
I love. I love the confidence. Because that's not a poem that he found somewhere else. No, that's not a limerick. That's not a structured poem. That is a free form. I'll rhyme if I want to or I won't. The meters, what I say it is or it's not. The length of the stanza is however long he wrote it, he said it out loud.
Dan
And I think there's a real, like, brilliance to it and that he knew that, like, this is talking about how great Alex is. I think he's. I think he's going to let me roll. I think I can do it.
Jordan
Yeah. You're going to have a much more positive reception to your poems if one of them, or the possibility of one of them is. Alex is great. Alex is great. Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex is great.
Dan
Yeah. So I think he had a real triumph there. And unfortunately, this leads him to. Much like Icarus Fly Too Close to the sun. Because he decides. Marty decides that Alex's show needs a little bit of culture. There's not. He needs to class this place up good. And so instead of a limerick one day he decides he's going to do a scene from Hamlet.
Marty Schacter
We are so appreciative of that. It just makes our day and our week.
Alex Jones
Marty, go ahead and get into your. Your Hamlet. And then we'll tell folks about the.
Marty Schacter
So I thought your show could use a little culture. So I want to offer a culture interlude. Up in the Colorado mountains, mile high above Denver, is a castle. Residing in the castle is His Majesty, King Bates, his beautiful wife, Queen Bates, his lovely daughter, Princess Bates, and his teenage son. Master the king makes a proclamation and says, today is Monday and it's laundry day. He calls his stepson Hamlet and says, go to the market and secure a box of laundry detergents. Now, Hamlet doesn't always listen to the king. He is still pissed off because the king killed his father to marry his gorgeous mother. This is a real soap opera. So Hamlet goes up to his room, gets up on his pedestal. All castles have pedestals, by the way. And shouts, Act 2, Scene 1. He's a fan of Shakespeare and also the Alex Jones Show. Act two, scene one. He proclaims, to buy or not to buy. That is the question. Whether it is nobler in the home to suffer the perfumes and dyes of outrageous chemicals, or purchase pure soap against this sea of pollution and by this acquisition end them. To wash, to bathe much more and buy this real soap product. Say we end the falsehoods and the thousand unnatural corruptions that detergent is heir to. Tis a consummation devoutly to be secured. To buy pure soap, perchance to use. Ay, there's the suds. For in the pleasure of ownership what dreams may come when we have cleansed our mortal home must give us pause. There's the respect that makes living of so long life enjoyable. For must we bear the unrelented distaste of enzymes, the antibacterials, the bathtub stench, the pangs of extreme costs, the sodium chlorides, the insolence of detergents and the deodorants that patient merit of the unworthy takes, when he himself might as quiet as make with an all natural soap. Who would that bear this cost to grunt and sweat under a life of perfumes, but that the dread of this can change forever with the undiscovered wealth of the cal Ben Soap Co. No consumer can be without. What puzzles the will is what makes us rather bear those expensive chemicals we buy. Alex must talk to all others that know not of him. Thus ignorance does make cowards of us all. And thus the Cal Ben hue of resolution is strengthened over with great soaps design and enterprises of great quality and truth. With this regard, their sails of current turn upward and gain the name of action. Buy soap now. Oh fair, oh strong. O Jones nymphs and thy orisons be all my ads flow through thee.
Alex Jones
Yay.
Marty Schacter
Oh, my gosh.
Alex Jones
We have an applause for you.
Dan
Hear that?
Alex Jones
Oh, hold on. Oh, they want to applaud again. Here it is for you, Marty. Another applause. There we go.
Marty Schacter
What is happening? Marty?
Alex Jones
I don't think they're have Calvin Pure soap in the FEMA camp.
Marty Schacter
Pardon?
Alex Jones
Oh, it's just. Have you heard that Cheney has now announced himself above even executive orders and his own laws that he's been.
Marty Schacter
Oh, is this new? I haven't heard that.
Dan
Is that new?
Jordan
Okay, I put this to you. As you know, I have a weird feeling for power imbalances. That was Alex demanding dominance back over.
Dan
His show 1 million percent. He's like, I've got an applause clip. I've got a better applause Clip. That I'm going to play for your old ass. Except it goes so fucking long. And Marty still has his own applause clip. They have.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
Yes, totally. That is a dominance play.
Jordan
That was amazing. That was amazing. At no point in time was I ever convinced he was going to do the whole thing. And he still did it. He did it.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Amazing.
Dan
I had. I mean, I'd heard it before and I still was shocked every moment that it kept going. And every time I looked at the progress bar, I was like, two minutes left. Wow. This is a lot.
Jordan
I'll tell you this. That is a man who appreciates and has participated in local theater.
Dan
Yes. Maybe In World War II he was doing theater for the troops. Maybe that's what he was doing.
Jordan
God damn it. And he did the whole thing about. He really just put the soap guy. That guy loves soap more than love. If you killed his father, that would be less offensive than if you fucked with soap instead of detergent or. You know what I mean?
Dan
He loves soap and performing. Like, it's so like he. He's just a little. He's just a little guy who loves the spotlight. He can't get enough of this. I'm gonna write a five minute retelling of Hamlet that's about soap.
Jordan
And I'm gonna deliver it. And I'm not going to just deliver it. I'm gonna act it and I'm gonna act it hard. I'm gonna hit my. I'm gonna hit my meter. I'm gonna hit my fucking stanza breaks. I'm gonna go for each little spot and at every point in time people will know I hate detergent and I love soap.
Dan
And look, there's a part of me that feels like the line between this and like pretty fucking good alternative comedy in 2007, 2008. Not very. It's not very. It's pretty close.
Jordan
Right on, right on.
Dan
If we're somebody doing a character on Alex's show, like, it's hilarious.
Jordan
Yep, 100%.
Dan
It's a sweet old man though, which makes it.
Jordan
Which makes it weirdly, like endearing. I would love for it to be an underground hard edged comic who's doing a bit and who's really taking the piss out of Alex. That it's an old man who truly loves local theater. Takes it. Makes me feel weird.
Dan
So he does a couple more really long Hamlet, like Shakespeare, he does a Caesar one. And I just don't have the energy to listen to another five minute thing. But it's pretty much the same thing. It's very. It's very similar. He does. He does a few of these.
Jordan
Doing one of those is more like extortion than advertising. That is too long. That is. That is like forcing somebody to be there against their will for too long.
Dan
And I think it pissed Alex off. I think that there was probably a point where it came to be like, we're doing a show here. You can't just. You can't do a monologue. You can do. You can do a limerick, but you can't do a monologue. Yeah. So everything comes back to more reasonable length.
Alex Jones
Give me a limerick. We only got 30 seconds.
Marty Schacter
Okay, then let me give you the limerick for today. We got the limerick going. All right. I want you to write this down because it's important for your family.
Dan
All right.
Marty Schacter
There once was an egg named Mabel who tried to stand but wasn't able. But our problem, you see, was solved. 1, 2, 3. If you first sprinkle salt on the table.
Alex Jones
1-800-340-70915 starsoap.com Marty, you are a character.
Jordan
We love you.
Alex Jones
God bless.
Dan
So sure. The egg on the table need salt.
Jordan
Sure.
Dan
All right, man.
Jordan
That's fine.
Dan
Sure. It is what it is. But I started thinking about it maybe because I was bored with that limerick in particular. I was like, his phone always seems to ring at certain times. He's already shown himself to be capable of sound effects. I think that's a sound effect.
Jordan
I pointed. I pointed at you so hard because I had that same thought when that phone rang. I was like, that sounds fake. It's fake as shit. There is no way this man is doing that fucking Hamlet speech and is also this busy.
Dan
It's very tough to imagine. And it seems the phone does seem to ring at kind of opportune times.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
So I think maybe it's all fake and maybe maybe this is some kind of, like, real avant garde art project.
Jordan
I would give anything to find out that that man does not sell soap. I would give anything to find out that there's no soap company. And he may be just like an eccentric billionaire who's living out some sort of weird role playing fantasy that's been going on for a long time. That would be amazing.
Dan
Yeah. He's just a lonely guy with disposable income who knows Ted Anderson and tricked Alex into thinking he has a soap company.
Jordan
Yeah. And it's just for him.
Dan
Or it's some guy who hangs out at Largo doing a bit that never paid off. Like it never got revealed.
Jordan
Yep. Oh, Man, I just had the thought of somebody being having, like, a brilliant bit like this that is playing out in the background of everybody. And there's a moment where it's going to be revealed and everybody's gonna go apeshit. But then they died first. And so then there's just this historical missing bit that's out there that we'll maybe never find. God, that's so sad. That breaks my heart.
Dan
Well, that could be what we're uncovering. And we get all the credit. So Alex's show, obviously, in the present day, deeply religious. Deeply. But at the time, just kind of religious, you know, in the late 2000s, not.
Jordan
So these can be on birth control.
Dan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we can do a limerick about Satan.
Alex Jones
As always, Marty, it's great having you on. Give us a limerick.
Marty Schacter
Okay. This is way, way. This is my most favorite limerick. Very, very old. God's plan made a hopeful beginning, but man spoiled his chances by sinning. We trust that the story will end in God's glory, but at present, the other side's winning.
Alex Jones
Marty. Or something else.
Jordan
Oh, boy.
Dan
The devil is winning. His favorite limerick is about how the devil's winning.
Jordan
Oh, God, I. I love that. Alex totally expected there to be more to that. He was clearly like, well, it doesn't end there. It doesn't end there. Right. God wins in the end.
Dan
There's got to be some assurance of God's victory. No.
Jordan
Right?
Dan
No, we think that, but the devil's fucking winning.
Jordan
Hopefully it all ends in God's glory. But it turns out the rhyme requires the devil to be winning. Right.
Dan
Now, unfortunately, shit looks bad right now.
Jordan
Sorry. The limerick rules apply.
Dan
Yeah. So this is what I feel marks the departure for. For Marty. You know, we've had the. The era of testing the waters. We've had the era of Shakespearean monologues. And now he has declared that the devil is winning the battle of good and evil. And I think he's just going to lean into it and start being a little bit dirty.
Alex Jones
Marty, it's always wonderful having you on with us. Give us a limerick.
Marty Schacter
This is a very old one. An accident, really uncanny, occurred to my elderly granny. She sat down in a chair while her false teeth lie there and bit herself right in the fanny.
Alex Jones
5Starsoap.Com 1-800-340-7091 at least get the sample. Tote bag.
Dan
At least get the tote bag. Guys, come on. So that's dirty, but it's at least a little. It's public domain dirty. You know, like in the uk, maybe Fanny. That kind of language wouldn't fly. But here.
Jordan
Well, that one actually goes back to Lincoln. It was Lincoln who said that one. So we know that that was mainly butt related.
Dan
Yeah. False teeth bit the fanny. Chomp. Chomp. It's a little dirty. It's untoward. You're talking about butts.
Jordan
I just like that Alex had a genuine laugh after just the first two lines. My granny, like, ha ha. Look at that granny. She's probably gonna get hurt.
Dan
There's an accident that happens to an old person. We're cooking with gas.
Jordan
He was laughing in anticipation. What's gonna happen to Granny? I bet it's not good.
Dan
Well, he should know that. It's a poem. And what rhymes with granny? Fanny. He should. He should see this bus coming from a ways away. Yet he still seems a little bit caught off guard.
Jordan
He's very. I don't know if he's ever seen the punchline coming. I think Alex is a very strong. The punchline will always hit hard, and.
Dan
That makes him a good audience. So Marty is now emboldened, I think.
Jordan
Yes.
Dan
And he is full of just hubris to. To the point where I believe he is now doing bestiality related.
Alex Jones
Artie, give us a limerick.
Marty Schacter
Well, this. I heard this last week on the radio from a major San Francisco station owned by Disney, and I immediately wrote it down because I wanted to share with you. It starts like this. There was a young maiden named Myrtle who had an affair with a title with a swelling in her girdle. And her mother found out that Myrtle's turtle was fertile.
Alex Jones
Man, you're something else, Marty. We'll talk to you soon. Take care, my friend.
Marty Schacter
Thank you.
Dan
Says lady fucked a turtle.
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
What are we doing?
Jordan
Yep. We're going to have a sad human turtle hybrid with eyes. That's what's going to happen. This is where it all began, buddy.
Dan
What about the homeschooled children that are listening to this? This is no good. Alex can't be having this kind of content. This is. This is obscene.
Jordan
This is. This is the most 1940s World War II veteran that you can be. I heard this thing and I was like, I got to go write this down. I got to go write this down. There's no other way for me to hear a thing and then share it with you later. I got to go write it down. Amazing.
Dan
A Disney. A Disney radio station had this filthy fucking po about having sex with a turtle. I gotta write this down. I gotta tell Alex also.
Jordan
What a relationship that Obviously it's very one sided. It's very one sided. Alex is never out and about thinking, oh, I'll write that down and tell Marty later.
Dan
Yeah, he hears a good limerick, he's not gonna save it for. For his old buddy Marty.
Jordan
Marty is like going out, just getting people little gifts. I bet he goes out and he just stops out somewhere and he just goes, oh, this made me think of you. And he bought it and then he.
Dan
Gives it to you and it has nothing to do with you. And it's fucking gross.
Jordan
Yup. Absolutely. Yep. I'll throw it away immediately. You have purchased garbage for me, sir. Thank you.
Dan
So the trend continues a little bit. And there's a little bit. It's cheeky. There's some cheeky stuff going on.
Alex Jones
Got about 60 seconds. Give me a limerick.
Marty Schacter
A cute little babe from St. Paul wore a newspaper dress to a ball, but the dress caught on fire and burned her entire front page sporting section and all.
Dan
Oh, Marty, oh, Marty.
Jordan
Oh, Marty.
Dan
Sporting section, Marty.
Jordan
I'll tell you what. Disappointing. That one was real disappointing. Marty, oh, Marty. Oh, Marty.
Dan
Yeah, she had a newspaper dress and she burned her tits off.
Jordan
I think this. I think. Here's what happened. All right? First off of all of these liberals and poems up to this point, this is the first one that had the correct meter and had the upward inflection at the end of the second line, which is very important.
Dan
That's true.
Jordan
So it was going great. It was going great. Then the third line, short. Boom. Nailed it. Then the fourth line. No, he ended in the middle of the phrase. So now the whole thing is rude.
Dan
I'm.
Jordan
The whole thing is rude.
Dan
I'm less. I'm less tough on him from that standpoint. I think that it's high art to refer to someone's body parts as their sporting section on Alex's show. I think that that is. That's quite a swing. And Alex should not be thrilled with this. This should be like, you're a fucking gross man. I like that.
Jordan
Yeah. I mean, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? As far as horrible things that old men have said about women? Goes to me at least. This is way low on the list.
Dan
True, true. But there's homeschooled kids listening and Alex has a responsibility to teach them.
Jordan
Imagine if they go to school the next day and tell all of their classmates.
Dan
Oh, wait, now they can't. They could tell their mom.
Jordan
Yeah, that's probably not a good recipe.
Dan
No. So the next, next limerick we have is About a guy with a smelly ass.
Alex Jones
Yes.
Marty Schacter
There once was a man from Australia who painted his ass like a dahlia. The color was fine, likewise the design. But the aroma, oh, that was a failure.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty Schacter, always good to have you. Take care, buddy. We'll talk to you again next month.
Marty Schacter
Thank you, Alex.
Dan
So I don't think Alex is thrilled with this. The guy's ass stinks. All right.
Jordan
I like that. The content of the limerick seems very important to Alex as opposed to the. The turn or the. The concept of the joke being a thing. It's very much like, oh, Marty, this one's no good. Like, what are you doing?
Dan
And you get a feeling of like, lowering action. Like he's. He's starting. Like Alex is starting to feel like, oh, God.
Jordan
Yep.
Dan
Fucking sporting section lady fucked a turtle. This guy's ass smells. What are we doing?
Jordan
We're on the fourth layer of the pre taped call in show. That's where we're at right now. I swear to God, I told you, one more limerick.
Dan
So I have a theory that Alex had a little chat with Marty about these limericks and about how they're dirty and how this is a family show. There's homeschoolers listening and it's Alex's job to teach them. And so Marty comes back with what I would describe as a meta limerick. That is a limerick about his limericks and how they're clean.
Marty Schacter
Limerick for today is a limerick. Packs last anatomical into space. That is quite economical. But the good ones I've seen so seldom are clean and the clean ones so seldom are comical. For Alex, every line has been cleaned. Not a word that's profane or obscene or spelled in four letters that might pain our betters or snafu, if you know what we mean.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty, good heaven, you with us. We'll talk to you again soon.
Dan
That feels in response to something that feels like half of a conversation, where the first half is your limericks are dirty.
Marty Schacter
Yep.
Dan
And he's saying in limerick form, alex, all my shit's clean. I don't use four letter words. I am. This is all. I've been so clean for you.
Jordan
Yeah, it feels like this was a. I was brought into the principal's office and I heard what the principal had to say and the principal didn't listen to me. So I went home and I wrote a two stanza limerick. And when I tell the principal, they'll finally be on my side because the only way to fight fire with fire is with limericks.
Dan
And instead, the principal is even more fucking annoyed.
Jordan
Of course it's twice as long. It's twice as long. You could have done half of that and it would have been better. Instead, you did, too. You could have just left the first one. The implied response to mine. You didn't have to make it an echo. Extemporaneous text. Jesus Christ.
Dan
Yeah. So Marty's time is short after this. I think that the difference of opinion between them about whether or not limericks are dirty or not, they just can't bridge that gap. No amount of shared soap love, or advertising dollars is going to work. And so we have one last limerick from our friend Marty.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty, again, it's five star sub.com and give us today's limerick.
Marty Schacter
A skydiving couple named Lord decided on sex while they sword. They got so excited while flying United, they never did pull the rip cord.
Alex Jones
Marty, that's a little racy. But that's your first racy one, so we'll let you get by with it. God bless you. We'll talk to you again soon.
Marty Schacter
Thank you.
Dan
Marty. Marty, little racy. Talking about on a plane. Yeah. I can't let you. Let you get away with that one, but.
Jordan
Oh, my God. Little racy. Little racy buddy. Actually saying sex. Sex out loud, people doing it.
Dan
Sex on a plane.
Jordan
That's racy.
Dan
What does it mean that they didn't pull the ripcord?
Jordan
It wasn't on a plane. They were skydiving. So they had jumped.
Dan
No.
Jordan
Out of the plane.
Dan
No, he said they were fucking on a United plane.
Jordan
No, no, no, no. They were United.
Dan
Ooh. Let's listen to it again.
Jordan
Go for it.
Alex Jones
All right, Marty, again, it's five star sub.com and give us today's limerick.
Marty Schacter
A skydiving couple named Lord decided on sex while they soared. They got so excited while flying United, they never did pull the rip cord.
Alex Jones
Marty, that's a little racy, but you're right.
Dan
You're right. Flying United is not flying on a United airplane. They were united as one. So they died. Yeah. Wow. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get that. I thought they were just playing.
Marty Schacter
Yep.
Dan
Pulling the ripcord I thought was a metaphor. See, I thought it was like they didn't bust or something like that.
Jordan
Right, right, right, right, right.
Dan
But no, no, they're dead. They. They died because they did not pull their. Their chute because they were too distracted by the fucking that they knew they were gonna be doing while skydiving.
Jordan
I love. I love that the response to that is little racy, low racing. Of all the things that I could respond to that with, I feel like little racy isn't one of them.
Dan
Yeah, but it is a little racy.
Jordan
You know, I'm with you. I'm just saying that in terms of like, okay, if somebody just out and out says that to me, my first thought is, are you okay? Is there something. Is there something you need?
Dan
Right. What if this person is selling you soap? Then what? Are you still worried for their welfare?
Jordan
I mean, I guess. No. I guess that makes him the perfect man to sell soap. Really. Like if you were going to make a Willy Wonka, but for soap. I don't think that he. I mean, like a. A. A limerick guy would kind of fit.
Dan
Yes. Now, I just thought of a ad campaign, okay? So he's out there, he's talking about like, this lady fucked a turtle, then she was fertile and all this, like really gross limericks.
Jordan
Lot of turtle fucking.
Dan
Right? That's the. Before. Then he washes his mouth out with soap. Cal. Ben. Pure soap.
Jordan
Oh, love it.
Dan
And he's. He's doing, like, just very clean, family friendly limericks. We got. We got an ad campaign here you.
Jordan
Are just about to change your goddamn name to Dick Whitman, my friend, because you're a genius.
Dan
Yeah. Imagine soap. What is it? It cleans your mouth.
Jordan
That's so weird because I was. I was just reflecting earlier this morning, like, I had my mouth cleaned out with soap when I was a kid for swearing. And nobody was like, this is dumb, right? Everybody was like, no, it makes sense, see, because it's dirty language. So you clean it with soap. It makes perfect sense.
Dan
Yeah. I remember the first time that happened in my life. I did. I didn't know how to articulate it, but I was like, this is symbolic, right? Like, I didn't know how to say that as a kid, but there was a part of my brain that was like, I know this doesn't work. This isn't doing anything.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a. You're poisoning me as a punishment, right? That's what we're. That's what happened.
Dan
Soap tastes bad, right? That's what's happening. Okay, great, great. So Marty is gone. Marty. I don't know when he died. I don't know if he's still with us, but he stopped appearing on Alex's show in about 2010. And probably, I like to believe, absent any other information, it's because of the trajectory that we have laid out here today.
Jordan
Absolutely.
Dan
That absolutely he got too big for his britches, started doing legitimate small town theater on Alex's show. Got scolded, started getting dirty, and then Alex had enough of it.
Jordan
I, I truly, I truly believe in my heart of hearts, and I don't care what the truth is. In my heart of hearts. Alex loves money so much, but Schacter's Liberics were so bad that he had no choice but to go against everything that he believed in and say, I don't want your money. I hate your librics.
Dan
Well, I think, I think that's part of it. And then I think also, you know, we touched on when Alex brought in his own applause sound effect. He was trying to like, dominate. And I think that this probably is a space that's so silly, it's so whimsical. And Marty does have a sense of humor. Like, it's not great, but it's there.
Jordan
It's there.
Dan
And Alex can't. He can't entice, he can't get. He can't dance with it, and he can't dominate that space. Marty is a little, a little cherub running around that Alex can't understand. He can't figure out how to best Mr. Mixelplicks.
Jordan
I, you know what it is? He's got a segment. That's what's happened. Somehow Schecter has just forced his way into being like, well, this is the Schecter 5. We're going to give Schecter 5 minutes every time he comes on. And that's not, that's not how this goes. You sponsor the show and then you get the fuck out. You don't get your own little, like, here's what, here's what I'm challenged about today.
Dan
And I will yell about how great your soap is. We'll do everything we can to sell your soap. But yeah, you don't get your, your own corner. Because I think that once somebody can do that, people will stop liking Alex as much because they'll realize there's something more fun to listen to.
Jordan
Look at this silly old man.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Why don't you give. Here's the problem though, right? Is then the next step is why don't you give him some more time? We love silly old man.
Dan
Yeah.
Jordan
Then out of nowhere, now you've got 20 minutes devoted to Schachter's Liberies. Every, every damn episode.
Dan
And then Alex is just sponsoring the Schachter Power Hour and the poetry slam with Schachter. Alex tries to write his own limericks. To get in.
Jordan
Oh, my God. I would love to see a dueling limericks between Alex and Marty Schacter.
Dan
I don't think he has. It's such a low standard of creativity, and yet I think Alex doesn't clear that bar.
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah. I feel like you should be able to bang out at least one limerick in a day. You know, just spend some time on it. Get. Get three, four hours set aside, and then you can bang out a solid limerick. I feel like that's.
Dan
What was that? Kanye? Like, seven beats a day for three summers. That. But limericks.
Jordan
Yes, exactly that. But limericks.
Dan
So, yeah, I wanted to do this partially because, like, you know, like I said, I wanted to give you a light day at the office, but also, like, I've done some interviews and people have asked me, like, what do I want people to know about Alex Jones? And it's such a nebulous question. It's such a. Like, yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like people to know, like, he is a racist and that kind of shit. But there's something about this that is what I want people to know about Alex. He's a fucking clown. He is the kind of person who is doing a show about how the globalists are going to round everyone up in FEMA camps and take over the world and poison the vaccines and all this. And the only way he can make money doing it is if an old dude tells dirty limericks on his show. Like, that's. That's who he is at his. At his heart. And so I. Like, I. It's a. It's a hard. It's a hard thing to put into words. Precisely. But if you get Shakter, you get everything.
Jordan
Yeah, there is. There's an element of when other people see him because he has got so many decades of effort put into this glitz, this show, this illusion around him that it is very hard for people to see the truth, which is that this is a man fighting for dominance with the soap limerick guy and losing. Losing. Not even close.
Dan
Yeah. And I think that's important. That's an important image that people keep in their mind.
Jordan
Yeah.
Dan
So we are gonna be off in Portland in the near future. So I think. I'm not sure when our next episode is going to come out.
Jordan
Immediate future. We'll be off in Portland in the immediate future.
Dan
Yes.
Jordan
Very shortly from now.
Dan
We are doing a show on Friday there. Yes. So I don't think we're going to have a Friday episode.
Jordan
Right. But we're also doing a show on Thursday.
Dan
Yeah, but we might be back on Monday. I would like, if possible, to put the Thursday show out on Monday, but I'm not sure, logistically, if we'll be able to pull that off. So we might be back next week. Who knows? We'll be back.
Jordan
You know, we'll be. Obviously. Listen, we're not going to run out now. Yeah, we're at 1100 odd. We'll be back.
Dan
Yeah, I'm just. I'm just trying to warn people that it might not be on Friday. We might, you know.
Jordan
Hey, it might be tough to get one out on Friday.
Dan
Yeah, but we'll see. But whenever it is, I'll write a limerick for y' all and it'll be a lot of fun. But, hey, Jordan, what fun. We'll be back.
Jordan
A delight. A delight.
Dan
But until then, we have a website.
Jordan
Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight. Com.
Dan
Yep. We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor.
Released: December 15, 2025
Hosts: Dan & Jordan
In this lighthearted and nostalgic episode, Dan and Jordan take a break from deep-diving into Alex Jones’s daily outrages and focus on one of the quirkiest characters in the Infowars universe: Marty Schacter, the soap sponsor known for closing his regular ad spots with limericks, poems, and, at times, full-blown literary performances. Titled "The 5-Star Poetry Slam," the episode is a curated trip through Marty’s poetic evolution on the Alex Jones Show, reflecting both the absurdity and endearing qualities lurking at the fringe of alternative media. Dan and Jordan’s conversation offers both sharp analysis and gentle ribbing as they break down Marty's most memorable moments.
| Timestamp | Quote/Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 02:21 | “Hey, everybody at the Daily Planet, you know that's fucking Superman, right? Why are y' all gaslighting me?” (Jordan) | | 21:19 | “A bee’s a busy little soul. He has no time for birth control…” (Marty Schacter’s first limerick) | | 34:51 | “Sex on television is not harmful unless you fall off.” (Marty quoting a Woody Allen joke) | | 46:10–50:33 | Marty’s full-length Hamlet soap monologue—Marty rewrites Shakespeare as an ad for Cal Ben Soap, resulting in a drawn-out theatrical performance, complete with a battle over applause sound effects. | | 59:05 | “An accident, really uncanny, occurred to my elderly granny. She sat down in a chair while her false teeth lie there and bit herself right in the fanny!” (Marty)| | 69:15 | “A skydiving couple named Lord decided on sex while they soared…” (Marty's final, racy limerick)| | 75:07 | “Marty is a little cherub running around that Alex can’t understand... He can’t best Mr. Mixelplicks.” (Dan)| | 77:55 | “He is the kind of person who is doing a show about how the globalists are going to round everyone up in FEMA camps and... the only way he can make money doing it is if an old dude tells dirty limericks on his show. That’s who he is at his heart.” (Dan on Alex Jones) |
Dan and Jordan balance scholarly analysis (riffing on poetry forms, meter, and literary references) with playful, sometimes irreverent banter—matching the absurd but affectionate tone of Marty’s own interludes. Their humor is anchored in wit, gentle sarcasm, and a genuine fondness for eccentricity.
If you have never listened to Knowledge Fight, this episode is a highly accessible and entertaining detour from the show's usual forensic scrutiny of Alex Jones. By focusing on Marty Schacter, the "soap sponsor limerick guy," Dan and Jordan provide a unique lens for understanding the surreal economy and theatricality of Infowars. Through a mixture of full limerick recitations, critical (and often hilarious) commentary, and context about the show's dynamics, listeners walk away with a sense both of the nostalgia and the low-key subversiveness that sometimes creep into even the most bombastic corners of alternative media.
Final Takeaway:
Through the evolution of one man’s limericks, we glimpse both the boundaries and the accidental joys of Alex Jones’s world—where one sponsor’s shtick can almost derail an empire of fear-mongering, and where poetry, in its oddest forms, offers a kind of accidental resistance.