#1109: January 4. 2026

Summary

Knowledge Fight Episode #1109: January 4, 2026

Release Date: January 16, 2026
Hosts: Dan & Jordan
Theme: A look at Alex Jones’ response to Donald Trump’s military intervention in Venezuela, Alex’s shifting rhetoric, and the underlying ideologies in play.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jordan analyze clips from the January 4, 2026, edition of The Alex Jones Show—the first Sunday broadcast after Trump’s forcible removal of President Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela. The hosts dissect Alex’s rhetorical justification for the military action, contextualize his shifting use of historical references like the Barbary Wars and the Monroe Doctrine, and examine how Jones reconciles his supposed anti-imperial, anti-corporate beliefs with cheerleading contemporary US regime change and resource extraction.

Tone-wise, the episode features the duo’s characteristic irreverence, in-jokes, and deep contextual knowledge of Alex Jones’ career and arguments. Jordan is recovering from an illness, and both hosts joke about “the Bone Temple” movie premiere they’re looking forward to attending—so this episode is a bit more brisk and punchy than usual.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bright Spots, Banter, and Bone Temples (00:58–06:49)

• Personal Updates: Jordan shares he’s recovered from a recent illness and finally took the bandage off his tattoo (02:04).
• Haribo Advent Calendar Tradition: Dan samples a new Haribo treat, and Jordan riffs about the differences between US and UK “The Traitors” reality TV series, contrasting authenticity between American reality TV personalities versus unaware UK contestants (03:48).
• Bone Temple Movie Excitement: Episode is slightly shorter because they have tickets for the premiere of a film called "The Bone Temple", seemingly a much-anticipated event for them (06:03).

2. New Policy Wonks and Listener Shout-Outs (06:50–08:38)

• Hosts give grateful shout-outs to new supporters and recount a story about being spotted by a fan at The Vic Theatre (07:39).

3. Main Event: Alex Jones Reacts to Trump’s Venezuela Move (08:38–47:00)

a. Alex’s Justifications—Historical Rhetoric & Revisionism (09:01–18:27)

• Barbary Wars & Monroe Doctrine: Alex draws analogies between Trump’s intervention and Jeffersonian/Monroe Doctrine foreign policy; claims US aims for “free and fair elections" and economic restoration (09:01).
• Hosts’ Analysis:
  • Dan contextualizes Alex’s new embrace of these talking points as inorganic, suggesting political operatives (e.g. Roger Stone, General Flynn) coached him to justify Trump’s military moves using historical precedent (11:05).
  • Jordan notes the sharp, recent shift: “He doesn't bother with subtlety. No, no. You want me to say this now? I'm going to say it all the fucking time.” (17:47)
• Gunboat Diplomacy Term Shift: Previously, Alex defined US “gunboat diplomacy” as a tool of corporate imperialism and globalist oppression; now, he spins it as a positive legacy and a show of strength (13:49–16:32).

b. Blatant Contradictions—From Anti-Imperialist Mask to Cheerleader (20:07–25:02)

• Trump’s Oil Grab as Virtue: Alex now argues direct US resource extraction is good if “the right” president does it, couching Trump’s actions as nationalist and benevolent (20:07).
  • Dan: "Every single thing about his political ideology should strongly oppose Trump telling oil companies how to do business..." (20:07)
• Principle Fluidity:
  • Dan and Jordan reflect on the abandonment of principles when inconvenient, musing on how supposed “anti-war” figures seamlessly flip to defend war and plundering when their “team” is in power (21:39–22:55).

c. Corporate Realignment and Bootlicking (29:21–45:06)

• Plunder Rationalizations:
  • Alex asserts Trump’s actions are for “the people” and likens him to Henry Ford—arguing that economic prosperity will be “redistributed” by benevolent corporations.
  • Dan: “Alex has in effect removed the whole reason to oppose [the globalists]...The principles he used to mask as his mask, they're all destroyed. And what's left...was the real motivating factor, which is white nationalism, Christian identity, protection of business interests over people, and colonialist exploitation…” (27:10).
• Corporate Welfare for Workers:
  • Alex touts "no tax on tips" as evidence of Trump’s benevolence; Dan underlines how this is a corporate-friendly pressure-release, not genuine labor progress (32:02–34:36).
• BlackRock & Friends:
  • Dan notes Trump forced the sale of Panama Canal port holdings to BlackRock, one of Alex’s supposed arch-villains—showing Alex’s alliances shift depending on who’s currently “the system” (36:29–37:44).
  • Jordan: “Once you’ve established yourself as evil, fucking go for it. Murder the younglings.” (37:50)
• Contradictory Capitalist Rationalization:
  • The hosts highlight the logical failure in celebrating a leader for enriching corporations so long as everyone gets a tiny cut.

d. Maduro & Gunboat Leverage (39:06–41:45)

• Alex fantasizes that Trump will “flip” Maduro against Democrats for criminal prosecution through classic strongman intimidation.
  • Dan: “He fantasizes about this idea that Trump will have Maduro in custody...and he'll be able to intimidate him into pointing the finger...” (39:57)

e. The Emperor Has No Clothes—2026 Edition (41:31–42:41)

• Jordan updates the “Emperor Has No Clothes” fable for the modern propaganda state, where dissent is not only drowned out but criminalized.
• Both hosts reflect on the need for new social tales and warnings fit for this manipulative, always-on-media era.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Alex’s Sudden Change in Historical Allusions:

  • “The point I'm making here is that Thomas Jefferson Barbary War stuff is a talking point, and I'm pretty convinced that he's been told to push this by someone else...It's not a point that he ever brought up before 2020.” – Dan (10:16)

• On Principles Only When Easy:

  • “A principle was only really confirmed when it sucked.” – Jordan (21:39)
  • “Every time people find a principle and they're like, oh, it sucks to have this principle right now. They just change it.” – Jordan (22:12)

• On Alex’s Bootlicking:

  • “...this is an insane level of bootlicking that almost can't be put on a chart.” – Dan (44:04)

• On Trump/Corporate Interests:

  • “If Trump can make 50 bucks by getting you a dollar...But if the alternative is him getting 51 bucks and you get 10 cents, he'll always choose that." – Dan (46:07)

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Key Timestamps for Reference

• Haribo/Personal Banter: 00:58–06:49
• Listener Shout-Outs: 06:50–08:38
• Alex’s Opening Justification: 09:01–09:46
• Discussion on Barbary Wars/Monroe Doctrine/Gunboat Diplomacy: 09:46–18:27
• Trump Oil Policy Contradictions: 20:07–22:55
• Globalism/Colonialism Riff: 25:02–27:10
• Rationalizing Corporate Plunder: 29:21–45:06
• Maduro Strongman Fantasy: 39:06–41:45
• Modern Fables Segment: 41:31–42:41
• Alex’s Meme Section & Closing: 47:00–49:23

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Final Thoughts

Dan and Jordan argue that Alex Jones’ increasingly naked advocacy for US imperialism and plunder under Trump demonstrates the hollowness of his “principled” opposition to globalism and war. Now that “their guy” runs the system, all previous rhetorical, historical, and philosophical cover falls away, replaced by opportunistic justification and cheerleading for colonialist, corporate extraction. The duo closes with comedic musings about how old parables and principles no longer fit the modern world—just as InfoWars outgrows its own conceits.

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For New Listeners

This episode perfectly showcases Knowledge Fight’s method: they apply deep historical awareness and media-literacy savvy to Jones’ rhetoric, tracking how his (often contradictory) positions reveal the true underlying ideology. The episode is light on Alex’s wildest conspiracies, but heavy on exposing the machinery behind the “anti-globalist” grift and its willing transformation into nationalist bootlicking. The tone is irreverent, the analysis is sharp, and you’ll walk away with a clear sense of both what’s changed on InfoWars and why it matters.

Transcript

[Dan]

Foreign. Jordan.

[Alex]

I am sweating. Knowledgebodies.com. it's time to pray. I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge Fight.

[Jordan]

Dan and Jordan.

[Alex]

Knowledge Fight. Need. Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy and Andy, stop it. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello, Alex.

[Dan]

I'm a first time caller.

[Alex]

I'm a huge fan. I love your word.

[Jordan]

Knowledge Fight.

[Alex]

Knowledge fight dot com. I love you.

[Dan]

Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

[Jordan]

I'm Jordan.

[Dan]

We're a couple dudes. Like to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

[Jordan]

Oh, indeed we are.

[Dan]

Dan Jordan.

[Alex]

Dan, Jordan, quick question for you.

[Dan]

What's up?

[Jordan]

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

[Dan]

Well, it is January, so as a tradition, you go first.

[Jordan]

I guess my bright spot is today. I would say for the first time in a while, I finally feel like I'm over the sickness.

[Dan]

That's great.

[Jordan]

Like, I've kind of still got a little bit in my throat. I got a little bit in the back of my head. But I was. I was doing my full exercise this morning. I didn't suddenly go. So that was great. That's back at it.

[Dan]

So you're basically the reverse of I am.

[Jordan]

I am now. Ow. Ooh.

[Dan]

Right?

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Congratulations on being. Indeed up with the health.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I'm feeling. Yeah, no, I feel good.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Got the. I took my little bandage off my tattoo. Finally got to watch that.

[Dan]

You shown the good people of America the tattoo. Cause I know that some people had wanted to see it.

[Jordan]

No, I don't have. I don't do social media.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know, but some people wanted to see it. I mean, do you.

[Jordan]

Do you want to show people?

[Dan]

I don't know. That's your body.

[Jordan]

It is my body and my choice.

[Dan]

I know that some people online, like, I want to get a look at that piece.

[Jordan]

You.

[Dan]

You talk so highly of this artist.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

You're the tech guy.

[Jordan]

We'll figure something out.

[Dan]

Okay. I mean, eventually I feel like we'll figure it out.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right.

[Alex]

All right, cool.

[Dan]

All right, well, I'm glad you're feeling better.

[Jordan]

What do you got with your Haribos?

[Dan]

Well, it is January, so as is tradition, we're going to have to consult this Haribo advent calendar.

[Alex]

There we go.

[Jordan]

Dan eats the bear.

[Dan]

Thank you so much too Zachary, for that. Oh, I Apologize. This is from the band Mermatron.

[Jordan]

I like it.

[Dan]

So thank you so much, Mermatron.

[Jordan]

Good work, Mermatron. I appreciate that.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Direct to the point.

[Dan]

And I eat the bear.

[Jordan]

You do eat the bear.

[Dan]

And unfortunately too many of these are just bears.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So we're going to the 16th.

[Jordan]

All right, here we go. What do we got?

[Dan]

It's different. Does it. It is a. Oh, it looks like a now and later kind of thing. Can they do that or a gummy taffy?

[Jordan]

It's a gummy laffy taffy.

[Dan]

It's ma o am ma oam m a o a m. I noticed that some of these things are labeled. That is like a brand. Might be an offshoot brand of Haribo.

[Jordan]

All right.

[Dan]

Yeah. But this looks like a happy raspberry.

[Jordan]

Interesting. Is there a joke? Oh, I gotcha. Here you go.

[Dan]

Oh, wow.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

You Mr. Fantastic.

[Jordan]

I'm quick bendy.

[Dan]

I don't see a joke, but I'm going to open this up and try it. And here's the part where you vamp then.

[Jordan]

My vamp today is going to be about the Traders. Now obviously there's the main traders, the US Traders starring the great Alan Cummings, who's fucking killing it, of course. But also concurrently there is the UK Traders with just regular ass people, hosted by a woman who is famous in Britain for being a raven or something. And I was thinking about the difference between the two of them and the great part of the Traders in the uk, the real people traders, is that like they don't know what they're allowed to do. You know, they don't understand that there's. That there's no real rules yet. You know, like the, the people on the US Traders, so many of them have their self created Personas is kind of their job. Like who am I? I'm the person who does this. This is what I do.

[Dan]

They've played other reality TV shows so they kind of understand what producers are going to like, what lines are gonna be like across this line. They're aware of editing and. Yeah.

[Jordan]

And these people are just baby birds. Just baby birds. And some of them are there to play the game, but they are not really aware of the reality TV game around the game. You know, they're not really aware of the like, well, maybe I want to be back on season 20 of the Traitors, you know.

[Dan]

Yeah. I launch a brand or I'm going to continue my brand through this appearance. Yeah.

[Jordan]

All these US people.

[Dan]

It's a little annoying.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I know that you were. We were Talking about it. And you were saying, you fudgeing. Love this Rappaport guy, though.

[Alex]

Fuck off.

[Jordan]

You said you're pulling for the worst. It is so funny whenever, you know, like, I knew he was the worst, and my wife had no idea. She was like, oh, he's from movies. And I was like, you're. And then he is the worst.

[Dan]

When I saw that casting decision, I was like, this is a mess. What are they doing? And it lived up to it, and it was so. That's fine.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

I don't know. It's different. I will give it credit that it is different than all the rest of the gummies and stuff that have been in this, but it's. I don't care.

[Jordan]

Knock in its favor, but otherwise faint praise.

[Dan]

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And it might be a little bit shorter, and that is because today is a monumentous day. I got. We got to go see the bones.

[Jordan]

We got to go see a bone temple.

[Dan]

Get tickets to the first screening of the Bone Temple.

[Jordan]

It's a huge day.

[Dan]

I've been waiting for quite a while.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Dan]

For this. Because I love that. 28 days later. You do love that. 28 years later. You do love that bone temple.

[Jordan]

We're about to find out how much we love the Bone Temple.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's really critical that this be decent.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because I think it could really ruin the first one if it's a mess.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I really think that it's. But the first one's good enough. That I have. I have high hopes. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

So we'll see eventually when we, you know, future episodes, if I am, perhaps.

[Jordan]

My vamp will be very heavily focused.

[Dan]

On the bone temple and how wrong I was for having hope. But we'll see.

[Jordan]

We'll find out.

[Dan]

But tell we know. Let's do an episode, and let's start by saying hello to some new wonks.

[Jordan]

Great idea.

[Dan]

So first, Rory Magnus, we're proud of your work. Don't forget the shy Pot L Sauce. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. Next, I, too, find my phone navigation too convenient to not use, and it has destroyed my sense of direction. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

[Alex]

I'm a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Thank you. And, Dan, I saw you. You're literally above me, waiting for the dollop, like, right now. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

[Alex]

I'M a policy wonk.

[Jordan]

Thank you very much.

[Dan]

Yep. I probably was spotted in the lobby of the. What theater was that? The Vic, was it?

[Jordan]

The Vic? Sounds like the Vic.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think so. Well, anyway, I was there.

[Jordan]

Yep, we were.

[Dan]

Thank you for seeing me. We also have a technocrat in the mix, so thank you so much to Evan and Brent. Don't trust Paul. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

[Alex]

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

[Dan]

Thank you so much.

[Jordan]

Yes, thank you very much.

[Dan]

Also, we can timestamp things a little bit about that sighting because you were also there.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

But you showed up late.

[Jordan]

I did.

[Dan]

So the fact that they didn't say that both of us were there means I was spotted before you arrived.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

When I was just hanging out with Angela Lampsbury and her partner.

[Jordan]

Or that it is a enjoyable and exciting experience to see you and a. Let's hope non talk about.

[Dan]

I can't imagine that's the case.

[Alex]

I can't imagine.

[Dan]

So today we're going to be talking about January 4th. This is Alex's Sunday show after Trump has taken Maduro.

[Alex]

Sure.

[Dan]

And obviously it's time that we rationalize this. And we live in the world post. Of course. Post regime change. Sure. And so Alex starts off the show with that being his main focus.

[Alex]

That's why when Hegseth came out and a reporter's like, this is like Iraq regime change. He says it's the opposite. Because the previous regime change was about destabilizing the Middle east and Balkanizing it. The United States wants to go in and have free and fair elections and turn Venezuela of its own power back into the most wealthy country in Latin America. But you have to know the history. You have to know the Marin Row doctrine. You have to know what gunboat diplomacy is. You have to know the Barbary policy of Thomas Jefferson. You have to understand all of that to understand this is a no brainer.

[Dan]

So one thing that anyone listening to Alex's show could not help but notice is that in the past six months or so, he's been constantly making references to Thomas Jefferson and his Barbary coast precedent. This is a reference to the Barbary wars of the early 1800s where Jefferson sent Marines to fight against pirates in the waters near Tripoli. The idea is supposed to be that these pirates posed a national security threat, so Jefferson was within his right to attack and kill them at sea. Which is then used as an argument that Trump has the right to do this with the Venezuelan boats.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dan]

It was part of the justification of Trump's militaristic action.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

This idea is combined with references to the Monroe Doctrine, which is a bit convoluted. The Monroe Doctrine essentially says that the US has control over everything in the Western Hemisphere, so any hostile powers trying to take over countries on our half of the world can be seen as enemies. This has nothing to do with Jefferson's actions during the Barbary wars, because that was centered around North African states, which are in the Eastern Hemisphere. Sure. The point I'm making here is that Thomas Jefferson Barbary War stuff is a talking point, and I'm pretty convinced that he's been told to push this by someone else. It's not a point that he ever brought up before 2020. And even then, it was in the context of an interview with a historian talking about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary Wars.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

It was not to defend sinking boats.

[Jordan]

It was a fun fact back then. And now this is a piece of.

[Dan]

Information and precedent and shit.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Typically when the Barbary wars were mentioned on infowars, it was because someone was trying to insist that white people weren't the only ones who ever engaged in slave trafficking. That context changed on September 4, 2025, after which point Alex began consistently repeating this new talking point about Jefferson's actions in the Barbary War as a justification for Trump sinking Venezuelan boats. What I'm getting at here is I don't believe this is organic. If Alex truly felt like Jefferson's attack on the Barbary pirates justified whatever military actions a president could argue were meant to protect the American people, then it would have come up in conversations about things like the invasion of Granada or Clinton's planned attack on Haiti.

[Alex]

Probably.

[Dan]

I would bet that someone like Roger Stone or General Flynn advised Alex to start justifying the boat attacks using this language because the increase is just too much to be a coincidence.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he didn't come up with this on his own.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

The same thing is happening now, more recently with the term gunboat diplomacy. Alex is starting to use that expression more as a way to justify Trump's belligerent actions against other countries. Peace through strength was an acceptable maxim to throw out until you had real military actions and Overthrows that you needed to spin. And it feels to me like this appealing to gunboat diplomacy is the way Alex is trying to escalate that. The problem is that gunboat diplomacy means a number of different things to different people. For political science types, it usually refers to a country replacing their diplomatic efforts with threats. So the international agreements they make aren't based on shared self interest, but rather on one party knowing that the other will kill them if they violate the agreement. Or even more to the point, it involves more powerful countries using displays of their superior maritime weaponry as a means of coercing less powerful countries to make those agreements in the first place. Alex fully understands and opposes this practice, as he's made clear repeatedly about China's actions in the South China Sea. He cannot actually support the principle of gunboat diplomacy without giving up any reason why he should care about the idea of, like, China invading Taiwan. Yeah, from my position of having listened to a ton of the show, I don't believe that Alex supports gunboat diplomacy as a concept. But there's a larger issue on Infowars. Gunboat diplomacy is not a concept that involves a state intimidating another state using a show of strength. On Alex's show, the term has a specific meaning and it is about corporate imperialism. Here's him explaining this to a caller from April 2004.

[Alex]

Don't you remember gunboat diplomacy over the last 150 years, if a third world Latin American country didn't, didn't let our corporations basically own them, how the Marines would be landed and they'd burn whole cities down. You never read about that? Not a lot of history now. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, our troops would burn entire cities all over Latin America and that's history. And they didn't even say they were commies back then. Oh, their commies were going to kill them. They would just go in level cities and say, okay, we run things and appoint a dictator. Go ahead.

[Jordan]

Huh?

[Dan]

The way Alex is using the term gun boat diplomacy in 2026 doesn't match how he's always used it in the past. In the past, the term has always meant something specific. The only context Alex ever used the term gunboat diplomacy is captured here in this clip from 2011.

[Alex]

I briefly wanted to point this out that growing up, you know, you're taught in school and college that third worlders are a bunch of idiot savages, basically. I mean, it's done with a velvet glove, but oh, those people, they just can't get themselves together and ha ha ha ha ha ha, Ha. Well, that's not what's going on. The colonial areas of Latin America, Africa and Southern Asia and other areas have been overrun by the more advanced technological militaries of the west repeatedly. And systems of tyranny are put in. And then the last hundred years. And this is mainline history, if you research it. This is not my opinion. And major white papers were written by the British government. The US Government deployed gunboat diplomacy, where they would give a dictator or give a thug, say in Venezuela or Guatemala. This goes back over a hundred years. The US, they give them a $20 million loan and openly, it would come out, tell them, don't pay this back, leaving one year with the money to Switzerland or to New York. That's why you have a lot of Mexican presidents actually move to New York after they steal a bunch of money. Just a few decades ago that happened. Or in the mid-90s, so it's the same system. Or they go to Switzerland. That's kind of the place where they nest. And it's a free zone. They allow. And so. And then the public's told, well, with interest, it's been 10 years. You don't owe us 20 million. In 1905, you owe us 300 million. And the country says, you know, back then, that was before the inflation we have, it was equivalent to 300 billion or something. They said, we don't even make that in 20 years. We can't pay it. Oh, that's fine. From the shores of Montezuma, from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli. And the Marine Corps top general, two time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, Smedley Butler, finally quit and went public and said, look, it's all about money. These people don't owe it. We invade them.

[Dan]

In infowars language, gunboat diplomacy refers to the practice of the IMF and World bank giving corrupt leaders and struggling countries huge debts that they know can never be repaid. The leader plays ball and gets to be rich in Switzerland, but they've sold out their country, which goes broke because of their inability to pay the loan. At which point the globalists come in and buy up all their infrastructure. If their leader doesn't play ball, we send in the Navy and the military. This was the only context Alex ever used the term until December 2025. After that point, he started using it to mean the more traditional definition of the expression, which is to use military and particularly naval intimidation to force American foreign policy objectives. And he started presenting this as a positive thing. That is good that Trump is getting Back to, if Alex thinks the US should impose its will on the rest of the Western Hemisphere through murder and threats of wars, then he should just say that he probably feels like he can't because he spent so much of his career pretending to love freedom and hate empires. But he needs to get over that hurdle. This is just bullshit. I understand that no villain ever really just comes out and says, hey, I'm the bad guy. But if you pay any attention to Alex, notice the language that he's using. The way things are changing, he's sending the message pretty fucking clear.

[Jordan]

It does seem pretty obvious. Yeah, almost. Almost stark in its alteration, making it even clearer, you know, like, at least again. But that's what makes him so much better than everybody else is. He doesn't bother with subtlety. No, no. You want me to say this now? I'm going to say it all the fucking time.

[Dan]

And I always did.

[Jordan]

I always said it. Yeah, sure. You can see a transcript of everything that I've said for the past 30 years. And I didn't say it right, but didn't I, though?

[Dan]

Have you seen the white papers? Montezuma?

[Jordan]

See, what's. What's wrong is that I should have said it back then. So why don't we, moving forward, just assume I did say it back then?

[Dan]

Mm.

[Jordan]

See, that makes more sense.

[Dan]

It's cool.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I find this to be sloppy on his part, and I don't think he should use these expressions that have loaded histories for himself.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But.

[Jordan]

Oh, well, it's funny to me how many different expressions we have to just avoid saying. Extortion.

[Dan]

Yes. Yep. We want your shit.

[Jordan]

We are going to take it.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's the end of this story. How do you want this conversation to go? Is up to you. We can use however many euphemisms you like.

[Dan]

Yeah. We got things that go boom.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

And you are susceptible to things going boom.

[Jordan]

Let me try and explain this. It's illegal when the mob does it, but we're a country.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Trump, he is gonna get in there and he is going to run this Venezuelan shit. He's going to be so good. And it's so in line with Alex's beliefs, like you can't even believe it.

[Jordan]

That's nice.

[Alex]

And if you look at every point, Richest whole country in the world. Production down 95%. The Communists just can't even run anything. There are people starving to death. Absolute hell. Trump doesn't have to spend US Money. The oil companies will go in. He oversees it. He makes them redistribute the majority of the wealth of the people. You've already seen him do that policy wise here where he told oil companies when he got in a year ago, he said, all right, you're not really getting any profits. National security slash prices massively, increase production. He got the Saudis increased production at the same time because he said, I want to help the whole world. We have to lower inflation globally. Which is true.

[Dan]

If you pay attention to Alex, you cannot possibly believe that he believes anything. Every single thing about his political ideology should strongly oppose Trump telling oil companies how to do business. The idea that Trump could tell companies how to manage supply and demand so he can manipulate prices is a state run economy, which is a critical piece of what he's supposed to hate about communist countries like China. E. Trump telling oil companies to slash their prices and that they can make no profits is a horrible transgression of what Alex's worldview is supposed to be based on. But he can pretend Trump is doing it and he reports that to the audience as a positive because he knows that even his audience kind of wants socialist leaning policies, even if they don't know the words.

[Alex]

Right.

[Dan]

Everyone except people who profit from oil companies hate oil companies. Everyone except people who profit from insurance companies hate insurance companies. Everyone kind of gets that the game is rigged. And the smug libertarian contrarianism of the late and mid 2000s, it isn't fun for teens anymore. So no one's doing it. It's not edg to be that libertarian dork now.

[Jordan]

You got to go full Nazi if you want that.

[Alex]

Right? Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. And it's easier.

[Jordan]

It is so much easier.

[Dan]

Yeah. The kid who probably would have been.

[Alex]

Like, I read the Mises website, like.

[Dan]

That kid's just racist now.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

He didn't. He doesn't have to try.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's the good stuff.

[Dan]

This stuff that Alex is saying, like in that clip, it isn't true, but even if you pretend that it is, he should declare war on Trump for doing it.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Dan]

Should be horrified.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You know, it is. It is something that has become more and more clear in our present time that I misunderstood how the world works based on how words work. Right. Like, to me, a principle was only really confirmed when it sucked.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Jordan]

You know, like that whole idea of.

[Dan]

Free speech, protect speech you hate, you know what speech you like.

[Jordan]

Fuck me, it sucks to do this, that is. But it's a principle, so I have to. Right. It feels like that is something that other people did not particularly find interesting. Like every time people Find a principle and they're like, oh, it sucks to have this principle right now. They just change it.

[Dan]

True. And I think that a lot of the people who are busy off changing their principles are a lot of the people who would rant and crow at you about how principles are so sacrosancy only important when they're inconvenient. Sure. I would love for kids to be safer in schools, but what about the guns?

[Jordan]

What about the.

[Dan]

What if we encroach on the right of people to have guns? We can't.

[Jordan]

Yeah, so fucking principled. Yeah, so fucking principled.

[Dan]

I think that is a form of gaslighting that did exist on a large scale for. For most of our lives.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's bullshit.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Because it is. It is something that I'm. I'm listening to him talk and it's like, I guess. I guess people will listen to the reasons maybe, I guess, and think like, oh, this is a good reason to do this thing. But in my head it's like, oh, you can give me all the reasons you want, but that you can't do the thing. So because you did the thing, none of your reasons mean anything to me. You fucked up, right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

What?

[Dan]

I mean, yeah, there's there's probably some edge cases where somebody does something that you instinctively think and maybe know is wrong, and then you could be persuaded by reasons.

[Jordan]

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Dan]

Like, there may be some cases like that, but yeah, generally the action, you know, it's pretty tough to justify when the action is the action.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Sorry, man.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Weird.

[Dan]

So through those actions that Trump is taking, there is an argument that could be made, I believe, that the rules are changing. International rules changing. Sure. To the point of non existence, maybe. Well. And so Alex celebrates this return to chaos.

[Alex]

Okay, so by Trump grabbing $18 trillion in oil, that's now on the US balance sheet. And that's damn right what it is. What do you think we did until the globalist era after World War II? You think the US didn't go around grabbing stuff before that? We didn't grab Cuba from Spain and then turn around and give it to them. But as long as, you know, they let us have a military base there. Forgot. I mean, the US has been the partner to have that. Won't screw you over and let you run things. Just don't screw us until the end of World War II. And then the CIA, we become globalists. And then all the things that came out of. Because we're working for globalist interest, British Empire interest, New World Order, interest. Not the people's interest. But if you think in this world that we can have our country and just hide in it and can't be engaged or can't be involved, well, I got a bridge I'm happy to sell you. So we're going back to U.S. policy here.

[Dan]

The bridge that he sold you is his career. Yeah, like he's already done it. If anyone is listening, you've actually purchased.

[Jordan]

Quite a few bridges over the years.

[Dan]

Yeah, the info warriors. Good for you. So this is a fine position for Alex to have, and I want to be clear that I respect him saying it explicitly. I wholeheartedly disagree with his position, and I think it's delusional to pretend that this doesn't just benefit giant corporations and tyrants. But I think it's closer to what Alex sincerely supports. In 2008, when he was trying to boost his career by latching onto Ron Paul supporters who were mostly mad about the war, do you think he would have said anything like that? Not getting involved in foreign wars was a central piece of the messaging back then. So Alex pushed that. Alex was positioned against the system, and regardless of whether Bush or Clinton or Obama was in office, they were representatives of the system and they were doing the wars. It's super easy to be opposed to their wars and then convince your audience that you're principally opposed to all war and you're not. Make no mistake about it. Alex built his career on the illusion that he was opposed to things like colonialist adventure and regime change because of principles that he believed in about things like freedom, sovereignty and non interventionism. He presented himself as the alternative to the hawks like Rush Limbaugh and the Fox News crowd. And without that fiction, he never would have been able to sell himself to a larger audience. People who weren't extreme right wingers and racists were drawn to him because they were the fuck off about the Iraq war. And he was giving them a message that they could get behind. And it seemed to transcend politics. People like Tucker would get in their bow ties and argue on TV about how Bush was right to attack Iraq and Afghanistan. But Alex told the audience that you were more likely to get struck by lightning than ever meet a terrorist and that the war was being sold to you on false pretenses. The people who were off about the war agreed with that. And because Alex was saying it, it made him look like he was more honest than his competitors. But how many of the people who marched with no blood for oil signs would have gotten on board with Alex Saying that the US should take stuff and plunder freely, like how things were before the World War II international order. How seriously could any of these people ever have taken him if his argument against the war wasn't that it was happening, but he didn't like the people benefiting from it? The argument for why the globalists are bad is supposed to be that they do bad things like carry out regime change wars in order to steal resources. By accepting and celebrating Trump doing the exact same thing, Alex has in effect removed the whole reason to oppose them. Because the guy who made millions of dollars as the anti system guy now has to be a cheerleader for the system. He can no longer keep up the charade that any of the stuff that he used to care about matters. The principles he used to mask as his mask, they're all destroyed. And what's left of it is the shit that was there all along and was the real motivating factor, which is white nationalism, Christian identity, protection of business interests over people, and colonialist exploitation of Uyghur countries, natural resources. Yeah, it's really what this is all about.

[Jordan]

Yeah. What a weird, what a weird team to join.

[Dan]

What a weird team to have secretly been on.

[Jordan]

Right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

What is. Yeah, it's, it feels like it wasn't worth it, but maybe, I mean, just going by everything that he's done, said, how he's lived, all the things that I know about him, I would say it's not worth it. But you know, maybe somewhere in his.

[Dan]

Head it was at least Alex finally freed the children.

[Jordan]

Yes. That is nice. That was nice of him.

[Dan]

Fucking prick. That. No, I find his, it's, it's this weird mix of fuck you and also like, thanks, thanks for just saying this. Yeah, like kind of.

[Jordan]

No, there is, there was, there was the part that was annoying in like, you know, oh, 506 where it's like, oh, we're, we're helping the people of Iraq. We're, we're there for the people. It's cuz Saddam is evil and we're there for the people. But man, they didn't even give him that one. They didn't even give us that one. They were just like, buddy, we're gonna steal their oil.

[Dan]

Yeah, but now it's in reverse, right? Like what's happening is essentially, you know, Trump is immediately being like, I want.

[Jordan]

That oil, I'm steal it, I'm steal their stuff, I'm stealing their stuff.

[Dan]

And now as a part of rationalizing that, it's Alex's job to explain to the audience, it is good for the people, Right.

[Jordan]

For us to steal all of their stuff.

[Dan]

We're gonna give the money to the people of Venezuela. They're gonna be great.

[Jordan]

That sounds true.

[Alex]

Right.

[Jordan]

Based on things we've done in the.

[Dan]

Past, it's just a s. Mirror of the exact same shit.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

Same kind of excuses and arguments being made. It's just the main difference that we've experienced so far is that there isn't like a giant insurgency that's happening right now in Venezuela.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Although who knows what happens down the road.

[Jordan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan]

So anyway, Alex immediately, like yesterday on this show, he was like, Trump looks at this shit and he's like, I could build a lot of hotels down there. Because he's a hospitality guy.

[Jordan]

Oh, great. He's a hospitality guy.

[Dan]

Yeah. And so some people laughed at him about that.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Because it was crazy.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dan]

And now he's a little defensive about how people were making fun of him.

[Alex]

I've also seen. I'll get to this, because it's not about me, but it's an example of propaganda. All these big Democrat talk show hosts taking a clip out of context Yesterday, like a 32nd club where I'm saying Trump loves to see golf courses and Trump towers and everybody happy and a future for his kids. And that got translated into Trump's doing this. So he has Trump golf courses and towers and so his kids can make billions. No, I explained how when he went and met with Kim Jong Un and showed him a video graphic of look how wealthy South Korea is. You could be that way with all these factories and businesses and golf courses and hotels. And Kim Jong Un reportedly cried and said, china won't let me.

[Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Alex]

So I was explaining, Trump doesn't like war. He likes prosperity. He's a hospitality man. He doesn't like plunging economies. That's not good for business. But the headline is Jones can't wait for corporations to loot Venezuela. And. And fantasizes about the. About Don Jr. Making billions. Didn't say Don Jr. Didn't list a company. None of that. Trump said, we're going to go in there and get their people production up and get them jobs and get them their money.

[Jordan]

Is that what he said?

[Alex]

And we've seen him do that with no tax on tips and all the other things he's done to try to. Every policy is what he does. And the Democrats try to stand in the way of that.

[Dan]

So Alex did literally say that Trump looks at a country like Venezuela and just sees the potential to Build Trump hotels and golf courses there. He can pretend this was taken out of context all he wants, but he fucking lying. It was on our last episode. Yep, larger issue though. The explanation of the context here that Alex is doing doesn't make it better. Alex is just explaining that Trump likes to do whatever works best for corporate interests and he demands on getting a cut himself. Everything Alex brings up is an example of something that's meant to benefit the corporations, including the no tax on tips thing. It's great for working people not to have to pay tax on tips, but that's also part of a larger negotiation that involves employers not having to pay tipped positions fair base wages. It looks like a huge win for the workers when you only consider the no tax on tips part. But when you look at the bigger picture, this is a perfect pressure release valve for the corporations to continue making more money. Yep, they don't have to pay their tipped employees anything more than they did before, but the employee theoretically walks home with more money. Collected tax revenue goes down, but the business makes the same amount. Consider that the alternative to this would be raising the minimum wage for tipped employees, and you can see how no tax on tips is a program that's friendly to workers, but even more so to corporations. Currently, the federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13. They're allowed to use $5.12 of any tips that they make as credit towards a $725 an hour minimum wage. So in some ways you could look at any shift as starting about $5 in the hole that you need to work off to your boss. Only six states in Guam require tipped employees to be paid their state's normal minimum wage, while 15 use the federal minimum of $2.13. No tax on tips is good for the workers in a direct sense, but the reason that someone like Trump or Alex can support it is because they understand that compared to the alternative, this is a very good option for big business. Also, I'm not the person to get super into the weeds about this, but Trump shit can only apply to federal taxes. So tips can still be taxed at a state level and companies can still apply payroll taxes to some forms of tips. And there's a $25,000 cap, so it's not as worker friendly as this catchphrase name is meant to imply. Sure. Anyway, I agree with Alex's motivation in that clip. He was speaking a bit too loosely in the previous few days about his excitement for Trump resorts on conquered lands, so he's probably feeling like he needs to moderate that a little bit.

[Alex]

Sure.

[Dan]

And I get that. I agree. I agree with that motivation. It's a smart move.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's. There's being a worm tongue and then there's being a straight up toady. You know, at least the worm tongue gets to whisper and you know, king, what's. His face is here. And be like, but, man, if you're just like, it's okay. If he steps on my nose, I like it. If bleeding makes your nose bigger and stronger.

[Dan]

He secretly loves me.

[Jordan]

Absolutely. And sometimes, sometimes I whisper his name in the dark and I bet he hears me.

[Dan]

Yeah. Like, at least Wormtongue, like, you can be seen with the King.

[Alex]

The King.

[Dan]

You're right behind him.

[Jordan]

And Wormtongue gets him in the end, you know?

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. It's different.

[Jordan]

He's not getting. He's not getting Wormtongue talent.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Nope.

[Dan]

So anyway, Alex, I think, just wants Trump to just. Just take over everything.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Alex]

Trump said, we're returning to the Monroe Doctrine and the model used by William McKinley. And if foreign powers are projecting their power into our hemisphere and setting up states and governments to manipulate our internal operations, we are going to smash your ass. You know how many times we've gone into Latin America, into Mexico before World War II? Hundreds of times because of foreign powers coming in, trying to manipulate and control. We built the Panama Canal. We had it for eternity in the deal. Carter signed it away. Obama finished it. Trump came in with Hexeth and told Panama, hey, the ChiComs are pushing in. Make a deal with us or we're going to come in. They said, nope. Oh, we'll push the commies out. Come right in place. And Trump said, good, we'll invest $500 billion. How's that sound?

[Dan]

Weird. Sounds chill and cool and awesome. Alex should tell his audience the truth. Like, Trump made a lot of noise last year about how Chinese companies ran ports around the Panama Canal and how that wasn't good for American national security. This involved a Hong Kong based company called CK Hutchinson holdings, who owned controlling interest over these ports. Trump demanded a shakeup. So CK Hutchinson ended up agreeing to sell their interest in these ports for $22.8 billion. The group that ended up with buying that controlling interest is a consortium that's run by BlackRock. That seems like it should be relevant to Alex because they're one of his big villains.

[Jordan]

Nah.

[Dan]

Weird.

[Jordan]

Nah. I mean, it seems fine. It's almost as though it didn't really matter too much for national security interests as it did for who's friends with whom at what point in time?

[Dan]

No, yeah. And yeah, I mean, I think that it's obviously very easy because they both start with the word black. But like, sure. The way that Alex was able to make friends with Erik Prince, who ran Black Water after they. The huge, huge villains in the Iraq War era.

[Jordan]

Sure.

[Dan]

Kind of. I think we're gonna see the same thing with BlackRock, Trump with them and is totally cool.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, once, once you've established yourself as evil, fucking go for it. Murder the younglings. Once you've done that, once you're already there, fucking I'm Darth Vader, I don't give a shit. Oh, I murdered younglings, buddy. I'm well past that. Right. What are we doing? Like, oh, is it okay for Black Rock?

[Dan]

I think you can only really have the confidence to do that if your boss can shoot lightning. That is something that you keep forgetting.

[Jordan]

I mean, it helps.

[Dan]

It definitely helps, I think morale or at least like following the leader.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's inspired by lightning out of the hands.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, you know, we give Trump a Tesla coil. We give him a big enough one, I bet that sounds. That sounds like enough.

[Dan]

Give that asshole a musk coil.

[Jordan]

I mean, listen, did you see the weather a couple of days ago? I'm willing to go with weather weapons at this point. I'm willing to accept that. That sleet storm that just popped up out of nowhere, that's fucking real. That's weather weapons.

[Dan]

Sure. So, you know, like some sort of pulse.

[Jordan]

Why not?

[Dan]

All right. Angels don't play that harp.

[Jordan]

No, they don't.

[Dan]

So Maduro has been arrested, he's taken to New York. Weird. And Alex has fantasized a little bit here about how he's going to flip.

[Alex]

But the fact that from what, law enforcement, custody and you know, that they are going to be meeting with him, you know, it's already happening and saying, look, give us the networks, give us the groups. They already have his former intelligence chiefs and others and confirm this, go public and you can walk and it will dismantle completely Democrats money laundering operation. And then if Trump can get a real AGN and some real people actually prosecute, this is the death blow.

[Dan]

See, what you kind of have to understand is Alex's framing of this relies on his understanding of gunboat diplomacy.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He fantasizes about this idea that Trump will have Maduro in custody.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And he'll be able to intimidate him into pointing the finger at his political enemies. And if you Agree to this deal, we will let you out of prison. You can be rich in Switzerland, maybe even.

[Jordan]

That's how it works.

[Dan]

Yeah. That's what Alex is fantasizing about is that, like, Trump would use Maduro in order to roll over on the people that he needs to take power away from.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think it's pretty obvious.

[Jordan]

You know, I was thinking about this, right. And I think the story of the emperor has no clothes has been misunderstood for its actual power. Right. Now you say, oh, the emperor has no clothes. And then the kid laughs at him. But I say, instead, the emperor walks around naked with his dick swinging around and then hires a bunch of people to scream at you that he's wearing clothes. And then if you say anything about him not wearing clothes, he murders you. Now, that is a good Emperor has no clothes story.

[Dan]

Well, you know how, like, I think, you know, you watch movies from, like, the 90s and stuff, and it's like, well, this whole plot would solved by a cell phone. Like, if there just were cell phones.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

This is not an issue.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's definitely true.

[Dan]

And I think that the emperor has no clothes. I think it's hurt by the fact that there's no media.

[Jordan]

Yeah. The emperor has a propaganda network. He doesn't even need clothes. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Like, I think that it's one thing to have, like. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of people who are going along with the, you know, the fiction that the emperor is cool clothes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But, like, if you had an Internet.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

No, if you could 3D print a new Humpty. Fuck that nursery rhyme.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

Let him fall all he wants. I'll make a new one.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Tomorrow.

[Dan]

And I think that we need new lessons.

[Jordan]

We have to start new. Our nursery rhymes are useless.

[Dan]

Yeah. You know, I think that I talked.

[Jordan]

That lady has to live in that shoe. That's the only place she can afford, man. That's where we're at.

[Dan]

I've talked a bit about how, like, Alex's world kind of requires a new Bible.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Our world also now requires new nursery rhymes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We need a new Aesop. We need a new brother Grim.

[Jordan]

Just a series of reasons to stay off the Internet. That's what we need.

[Dan]

There's a witch.

[Jordan]

Exactly. If you get on the Internet, you'll get eaten. Next. Next one. If you get on the Internet, you'll get fucking bitten by a wolf. Next one, somebody's going to chop your head off. Next one.

[Dan]

Finding, like, accidentally finding sex criminals or Nazis or all the things that are on the Internet, apparently, isn't scary enough.

[Alex]

Not enough.

[Dan]

Yeah. We need to create a monster.

[Jordan]

Yep. That's what's gonna happen.

[Dan]

But then it's gonna get Slenderman.

[Jordan]

We're gonna get Slenderman. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. Fuck, yeah.

[Dan]

So if the globalists were doing this, taking over Venezuela, they would just give that oil to China. Whereas is good. Sure. Because he's taking it.

[Jordan]

That makes sense.

[Dan]

And then he's gonna give it back.

[Jordan]

That makes sense.

[Alex]

If this was a normal globalist operation, they'd go in there, Iraq and then China's giving the oil fields. With Trump, everything he goes and does literally is maximized to pump as much money into the average person's pockets as possible. Because hospitality man, if the little guy ain't making money, you're not gonna have an infrastructure to spend yours. Henry Ford was the guy that innovated this.

[Dan]

This.

[Alex]

He said, I'm going to pay my employees 3 times what other car companies do. I'll have all the best workers and I'll give them discounts on Ford vehicles. And then almost every employee bought the vehicles. Yeah, that's grow the pie model. Not the great reset, make everybody poor model. Not the new world order communist model of the American model.

[Dan]

Not. Not the only thing that Trump and Henry Ford have encountered.

[Jordan]

I was gonna say there's quite a few things about that.

[Dan]

For real, though, this is an insane level of bootlicking that almost can't be put on a chart. The way that Alex is justifying Trump's geopolitical military actions relies on assuming a super corrupt but benevolent motivation from a business standpoint. And that alone should be a problem.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If Trump is kidnapping world leaders and seizing oil fields, that should be bad. But he's doing it because he wants everyone to have a bunch of money, so that should be good. But he wants everyone to have money because he's a hospitality guy who only makes money if everyone has money to spend. So that kind of makes his motives look suspicious. Again, it's good to want people to have money and be able to afford things in life, but if your reason for wanting that is so you can sell them things, then your ability to afford something is really a means to an end this person is after, which is them selling you things. Yeah. It's great to give people more money so they can afford to buy, you know, raising wages. What's even more effective than that is giving them company bucks.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Dan]

And selling them all the things that they. That's super efficient.

[Alex]

It is.

[Jordan]

It's so great you could raise their.

[Dan]

Wages so high when that money is just coming right back to you.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, yeah. It would be. You know, it feels like, like at the very least. Right. Caesar could be like, hey, listen, I will bring back plunder. I'm just gonna plunder and I'll have too much. I don't have a place to store it. So you'll get some. Now it's all in the cloud. Like, it's on the screen. You can't get any of that. He's plundering all this and then just keeping it on a screen. You're not getting a little jewel from Carthage or whatever. You're getting nothing. It's just on a screen, man. Brutal.

[Dan]

Remember NFTs.

[Jordan]

Doing the thing that was going to last forever and be super awesome for art. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

Anyway, if Trump can make 50 bucks by getting you a dollar.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

He's cool with that. That's fine.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But if the alternative is him getting 51 bucks and you get 10 cents, he'll always choose that.

[Jordan]

He will choose that one 100%. Always. 100%.

[Dan]

Would Henry Ford, Blackrock and all the people that Alex fucking loves.

[Jordan]

Yep.

[Dan]

His worldview is based on industrialists and rich corporations trying to fleece fucking workers.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's hard not to see very clearly that they exist to exploit the space between labor and profit.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Jordan]

And they have no actual value whatsoever.

[Dan]

And it's becoming too transparent now because they are too powerful.

[Alex]

Yep.

[Dan]

So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex how he wants to spend his time on such a. You know, it's the Lord's day. Sunday, it's Trump has just overthrown Maduro and ended the globalists. Well, so here's where he's at.

[Alex]

We'll get to Hegseth talking about this being the opposite of destabilization. This is stabilization in a moment. But let's look at white liberal women fuming to follow the United States saying, how dare you violate somebody's sovereignty? Well, how dare them send their prisoners here and 8 million people displaced? And how dare them starve everybody? And how dare them steal our elections?

[Jordan]

How about that? Got him.

[Dan]

Yeah. I mean, this show, if, like, he talks about how God tells him what to do and how he's like the most important person in the world and has shaped the tides of history and stuff. And like, great. You should be doing something else with the time then, you know, the show shouldn't be a meme recap show. And you trying to puff your chest out at TikTok videos.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like that seems incredibly trivial for God's chosen soldier.

[Jordan]

It does feel that way.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there weren't, there weren't a lot of apostles writing stories about Jesus getting into a flame war. You know, like it was mainly like, hey, I'm gonna go to this mountain, give a little talk. Maybe I'll get into. I'll get into a dust up at the temple, get those assholes out of here. But at no point in time was there a like, back and forth. Like I. How about this one? Oh, what about this guy?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Even when he's spending the days in the devil, in the desert with the devil, nobody's recording that shit.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It's too bad they didn't.

[Jordan]

We don't want that.

[Dan]

No, because imagine it was probably like a non stop roast.

[Jordan]

Oh my God. They're just, just nitpicking back and forth.

[Dan]

But like good lines.

[Jordan]

It would have to be literally the best lines in all of history.

[Dan]

Can you imagine if like the devil and Jesus out in the middle of nowhere.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dan]

Like if that was on Kill. Tony, The zingers.

[Jordan]

You're right. I think the world should have. That is a good point. You have, you have argued correctly for the end of the world.

[Alex]

I give up.

[Dan]

Anyway, we're doing, you know, this is a little bit of a shorter episode and part of the reason is because obviously what comes right after this is the Minnesota shooting. Ice shooting.

[Jordan]

And shit's gonna get real.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's gonna take a while. And the bone temple calls.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I didn't want to have that energy going into the bone temple.

[Jordan]

I mean, I mean, it's hard to want that energy going into anywhere.

[Dan]

Yeah, I mean, it's something we can't ignore, obviously and must be dealt with, but the bone temple. Anyway, we'll be back for that unpleasantness, but until then we have a website.

[Jordan]

Indeed we do.

[Dan]

@Soundlessfright.Com we have a bone temple. We'll be back. But until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious Professor Woo. Yeah. Woo. Yeah.

[Alex]

Woo.

[Jordan]

And now here comes the Sex robots.

[Alex]

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Holding.

[Jordan]

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller.

[Alex]

I'm a huge fan.

[Jordan]

I love your work.

[Alex]

I love you.