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For decades, the top political issue for many U.S. Catholics has been abortion. But, a recent article in “The Atlantic” argues that the focus has shifted to opposing the Trump administration’s harsh immigration policies and enforcement. Pope Leo, the first American to head the Catholic Church, has criticized and rebuffed Trump’s policies, statements and acts of war as contrary to church teaching and Christian values. We’ll talk about political tensions U.S. Catholics are grappling with and how that relates to our broader political system.

Guests:

Christopher Hale, a progressive Catholic and political operative who writes the Letters from Leo Substack

Francis X. Rocca, contributing writer, The Atlantic, He is also the Vatican editor at EWTN News

Amirah Orozco, theologian, research assistant and doctoral candidate, University of Notre Dame

Dónal Godfrey, university chaplain, University of San Francisco

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