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- [00:00]
Dane Johnson
So the first thing you have to do when you're building routine is you got to be a creature of habit. Right. Shout out to what you do. You have to get disciplined in saying, I'm willing to be consistent with this. So everyone, I'd write this down. Consistency is worth more than perfection. When everyone's overwhelmed with disease or getting in shape or whatever you have to do, you have to get consistent before you worry about making it perfect. So if you're not consistent, I'm going to say, show me you can do this for two weeks straight. Show me you can be gluten free for two weeks. Weeks. Show me you can get rid of the alcohol for two or three weeks. When I start, I want to start with the focus of what I'm not doing more so than what I am doing.
- [00:35]
Michael Chernow
I'm Michael Chernow and this is the Creatures of Habit podcast.
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Unknown
Our habits will make us or break us.
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Michael Chernow
It's just that simple.
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Unknown
I've lived on both sides of the tracks and have learned that the decisions we make on a consistent basis truly define who we are as human beings. On this show, I will be interviewing some of the most inspiring, motivating and high performing humans I've encountered to share their daily habits. Habits, routines and rituals that help them stay on top of their game and ultimately happy. So sit back, relax, and pay attention, because what you hear over the next 30 to 45 minutes could potentially change your life.
- [01:17]
Michael Chernow
Let's go. Dane, you know what it feels like to be knocking on death's door?
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Dane Johnson
Yes, sir. Unfortunately. Right.
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Michael Chernow
Did you know that you had Crohn's your whole life?
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Dane Johnson
No. You know, When I was 15 or 16, I was a normal kid in the woods of Virginia, just doing whatever, you know, neighbors, horses, we ate what we want. I worked at Papa John's Pizza for four years. What do you think I was eating? Trying to save a buck for a new car. You know, trying to convince my dad to give me a Mustang. Right. And so all I ate was just what was the cheapest, easiest thing. And when I got into fitness and lifting and athletics, it was like, how do I get my macros right at the cheapest way possible? So I never thought about it. No one in my family had ever been sick. I, you know, never even heard of inflammatory bowel disease. When I first heard of it, it was so shameful. It was like, who's ever going to marry me? Like, how am I going to find a woman or have kids and my kids going to deal with this? I mean, I went I went through the works emotionally when it happened. And even when I was diagnosed, I didn't know what it was. I didn't really look it up. I said, okay doc, just give me what you're going to give me and let me go about my business. I mean, that afternoon I was lifting weights, working on my entrepreneur skills and what business I was going to build. And it was my mother actually who started researching and goes, wait a minute, this is, this is, this is serious. You know, she didn't want to scare me, but I remember her talking to me like, you know, trying to, like she was trying to figure out how to talk to me about this without scaring me and then start talking. You got to change your habits.
- [02:50]
Michael Chernow
And that was at how old?
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Dane Johnson
19 was the first time I went to the bathroom and it looked like a crime scene in the toilet. 19 years old. And I was in college. Blood, mucus and no stool. But then I was having pain. So it's like, you know, sometimes if you go to the bathroom, you're like, oh man, what was that? And you look down, it's just mucus, blood and a little sediment. You're like, that never happened to me, thank God. Right? And so it's very painful. And then it was kind of like a thought like, oh, I need to take a step back from this because I was, I was running a company in college. I was going to do 15, 18 credit hours in school and I was, you know, just really into working out six days a week, doing sprints and, you know, push pull days. And I was just in it. And then I'll be drinking beers, playing beer pong at night and eating pizza on my cheat days. And so I just was doing the macro life. And that happened. And then by the time I was 22, 23, it was more full blown where I was going to the bathroom 10, 15, 20 times a day. And mind you, my entire life, this never happened. I was just a good old boy. Never had any experiences like this. Everything I ate was gluten. Everything I ate had seed oils. Everything I ate was just what was the cost and what were the macros. And then by the time I was my 27th birthday, I was 120 pounds on a TPN feeding tube, 200 milligrams of infused prednisone. I was on Dilaudid, which is seven times stronger than morphine. And I was taking three grams a day with a click of a button. So they just hit, oh, you got pain. I'm flying high. And it was in December of 2014 that my whole family flew into that same hospital and nearly died in that hospital. And doctors couldn't figure out why I was dying. They told my mom he might not live. It was a Thursday night. We don't know what to do with him. And I'll tell you right now what saved my life. The crazy thing none of the doctors could figure out. And the whole time I was sick, like four or five years. Man of like, can't eat food without pain, cramping, urgency, blood, loose stool, energy, starting to get cystic, acne everywhere. Losing weight, you know, going from £190 to 170, 150, 140, 130. Yeah, you're putting. You're double looping the belt on. On a 32 WA, 31 ways like you can't even. Nothing. And I didn't know what to do, and no one knew what to do. I went to Mayo Clinic, Cedar Sinai, I went to ucla, and I got a lot of the same story. We've got to use suppressants, immunosuppressants, or biologics to help this. And if that doesn't work, we're going to cut out your colon. It's called a colectomy. So that one point in 2014, they were saying, you have to get your colon removed right now, like today. And I just, you know, I kept denying it. Then I asked my mom to speak for me when I kind of lost consciousness and I wasn't able to really talk or communicate anymore. And, I mean, it was. It was crazy. I mean, looking back, I didn't do everything right as far as what I would recommend now. And I know a lot of people out there are suffering, and, you know, we all have to find our choices. But, you know, once I started figuring out what was actually happening, the doctors missed that. I, you know, one of the things, one of many, you know, because I really want to get into how to help people and serve and what habits we can take to change your life. That's what the point of today is. But one of the things they miss is I had gotten an active viral load in my body called cytomegalovirus. It's like Epstein Barr. You heard of that? Of course, this virus was going absolutely crazy. And they were giving me these suppressants and antibiotics which were weakening my immune system, not strengthening it. They thought it was bacterial. Think antibiotic. So I was on four different antibiotics. The strongest immunosuppressants kept getting weaker because my body couldn't handle this viral load. That was taking over my body. This is common with people with severe disease. They can die from things like this. Right. So, long story short, we finally had a doctor who gave us the hint of it. Calls the local urgent doctor, says, you got to give this kid an antiviral chemotherapy or he's going to die. So they ordered me this. It was $5,000 for the sample, six figures to be on this thing. Okay. And I was an actor in la, so I had crap insurance. You know, I was a little just running around the world doing my thing. And all of a sudden I snap out of it on that chemo. You know, thank God they gave it to me. But then I was on it for about two months. I was able to come back to, like, consciousness, but within about a week had taken that. I checked myself out of the hospital and then I was housebound for a year trying to rebuild my life. Took me about two months to be able to walk again. So I was 120 pounds. And people say, how is that possible? Because when you have such muscle atrophy, when you lose 60 pounds of weight, 70 pounds of weight, and I was 8% body fat, you know, I was already lean, you know, a little bit of veins easily. See the six pack? I lost £60 on that. So it wasn't like I had all muscle. It was not. Yeah, a lot of it was muscle. Like, you know, when I was, you know, shooting for Men's Men's Health magazine or things like that. So I do little things. I'd be down to like 6% body fat with a 320 pound bench at 173 pounds, you know, 6, 1, 6 2. I mean, I was strong. I loved. I was a creature of habit my whole life. And it really saved me with the disease. I want to discover that today.
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Michael Chernow
So I'd love to hear what habitually what you changed and what your life looks like now, because you're obviously in great shape. Yeah, I mean, you're a strikingly handsome dude.
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Dane Johnson
What? Thanks, Mike.
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Michael Chernow
What do you. What, like, what do you. What, what. What habits have changed in your life from that year that you spent at home rebuilding to where you're at today?
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Dane Johnson
Well, it's been 10 years and I haven't taken a medication. I never got any surgeries. And I'm in complete remission. And this is considered a lifelong incurable disease. And I've helped thousands of people do this. And we're talking IBD now, inflammatory bowel disease.
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Michael Chernow
And that also is Crohn's, a part.
- [08:42]
Dane Johnson
Of that Crohn's disease. And also the two main forms of inflammatory bowel disease. Crohn's is where you have chronic inflammation anywhere from your oral cavity all the way down to the bott. The bottom. Ulcerative colitis is where there's chronic inflammation local to the colon, 5 to 7ft of your large intestine. Colon is where there's inflammation and then there's different forms like pan colitis, where the whole colon is flamed, or microscopic colitis, but they don't really see it, but they can test for it or they find it under a microscope. So it's different levels of this. And then, you know, roughly 20, 15, give or take, Americans are dealing with IBS, irritable bowel syndrome.
- [09:17]
Michael Chernow
Right.
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Dane Johnson
Which I would consider that in my opinion, more like pre ibd. You know how we have pre diabetic. It's. Something's going on with the gut, it's starting to get injured and there's some core issues we can talk about there. But that whole year when I was, when I was there, I had to divorce my lifestyle as a young American man. I had to divorce the food, the, the type of, the way I was social, the way I communicated, the way I celebrated. You know, I mean, think about it. Every single New Year's you had, every single birthday party, every single Christmas, every single holiday, what were you doing? Things that are not necessarily good for your health. That's how we celebrate. It's two in the morning, it's alcohol, it's crap food, it's drunken pizza, you know. And so I had to find another way to connect with my friends. I had to find another way to even consider dating. I had to find another way to find a reason to smile or laugh or put my hands up in the air. Besides, I'm drunk, listening to some what dj? So it's like a divorce of that old life. And it's painful emotionally, spiritually. It's lonely, it's isolating. I mean, a lot of times the reason why we can't get healthy and we have to, we struggle with the habit of getting healthy is because we subconsciously see that as something that is lonely and isolating and not fun sacrifice. Like who goes to get salads after a great night? You know, nobody who goes and watches their macros and make sure they got 180 grams of protein when they're out in the, in Saint Barts or Saint Martin. Like we, we let go and we indulge and these things are hard. But when you have chronic disease. Your body won't let you indulge anymore. You can't. So if I was to have even too much water in the day, I might go to the bathroom 15 times with pain and blood and urgency. If I was to eat any kind of bread, pasta, raw food, I would get extreme pain and more blood and more bloat and cramp and then brain fog. It was. It was like, you're allergic to food, and there's nothing you can do about it. And you're looking at your family to save you. You're looking at the doctor to save you, and everyone's just looking at you like, here's some drugs, you know, and your mom and dad are writing check after check after check trying to save you, but money's not doing it.
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Michael Chernow
Is. So is this something that was hereditary or is it something that. That. That actually through lifestyle had manifested?
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Dane Johnson
In my opinion, that's lifestyle. And I'm gonna. I want to unpack that. No one in my family had ever had this disease or been sick. We're not our family. We don't have any of the issues. You know, heart disease, obesity, cholesterol problems, autoimmune disease. I mean, auto. Autoimmune is really a. An epidemic since the late 1980s. And we see correlations with what the western world rolling of autoimmune, and we just see it more and more people having diseases of like, what's that?
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Michael Chernow
Oh, I'm riddled with it.
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Dane Johnson
Right. And so you would, like, you know. You know, you might. Some people listening is like, well, what's Crohn's or colitis? What's multiple sclerosis and. And Shorgan's and what's lupus and what's, you know, this new Alzheimer's we didn't have 50 years ago. You know, 50 or 70 years ago, no one had even heard of this. In 2010, when I was finally diagnosed of Crohn's colitis, I'd never even heard of it. Not only my family had even heard of it. So there's this epidemic, and, you know, a things that I looked at is, well, if our grandparents didn't have it, what's the difference between how they lived and how I live? Because we got the same genes. So all four of my grandparents, no GI issues. All two of my parents, no GI issues, All my cousins, no GI issues. My brother and my two sisters, nothing like this. You know, one had an ulcer, you know, little IBS symptoms, but nothing like this. So what had happened? And why was I. Fine at 15, what the heck happened? I think a lot of us are wondering out there, what happened? What is going on with me? Or even in the fitness world. You ever seen in the fitness world lately, it feels more like, can I perform at my best and sacrifice my health, but can I be my healthiest and perform at my best? So sometimes we're sacrificing, we're pushing our adrenals, we're taking certain. We're taking more and more supplements and more and more powdered, you know, proteins that we don't necessarily know what in them. The emulsifiers, the preservatives, the additives, and we don't know what that's doing to the terrain of the cells and the body. And that's what I discovered over the last 10 years. I became obsessed with what happened, like a detective.
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Michael Chernow
So what happened?
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Dane Johnson
Basically. Okay, one of the things I'll give you right now, 13 months before I was finally diagnosed, I was wearing Invisalign. Invisalign is pure plastic. It's plastic that you were chewing on and swallowing all day long. Just. Recent clinical studies have shown that people with IBD have 50% more microplastics in their gut than the average person. And if you look at the amount of microplastics we're ingesting right now, the average American could be absorbing or digesting, taking in up to one credit card of microplastic every single week. Week.
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Michael Chernow
Wow.
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Dane Johnson
It's in our air. It's in our seafood. Okay, think about this. Did your grandfather drink water out of a plastic bottle?
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Michael Chernow
Definitely not.
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Dane Johnson
Was it sitting on some in whole Foods or sprouts or a food lion for God knows how long, maybe sitting under God knows what temperatures and systems where this purified water is now sitting in plastic plastics with bpa. If we look at the clinical research, we see bpa, which can mean the plastic. We see microplastics, we see phthalates, we see all these toxins that clinically show they disrupt the good microbiome. Okay? So all of it, you hear all these big terms. Pfas, forever chemicals. It's in our plastic clothes, polyester. We hear about VOCs, voluntary organic compounds. These are fragrances. And our candles in our cologne, right? We hear. We. We've heard these terms, and we're like, oh, I think I heard of that. Or PCBs, polychlorinated biffanols, you know, that are in. That are in our running rivers. These chemicals are everywhere. And if you look at the clinical, it's over and over again, disrupts the microbiome. So what does that mean? It inhibits all your police officers, all the guys patrolling the street, of your gut. Okay? The bifidobacterium, the lactobacillus, they are being inhibited. They are being put to sleep. Their levels are being controlled down. We don't have enough police officers. Then the emulsifiers, like polysorbate 80, what holds peanut butter together in ice cream, that's been shown to act like dishwasher detergent to your gut lining. So the nice, healthy mucous membrane that protects your gut from the inside of your body, the bloodstream. Okay? Part of that is not just the epithelial cell lining, which is one half a human hair in thickness. That's how tiny that is, that cell wall. But then the mucous membranes being basically cleaned out like a detergent and being thinned out, making your immune system, your epithelial cell lining, and your gut lining injured. And you become more sensitive to food, and the ability for these toxins to get in your bloodstream increase. So it has a downstream effect. So polysorbate AV Again, what is that emulsifier that hold things together? Think peanut butter. Like, when you look at Jiffy, look like good organic peanut butter, right? Or almond butter. You see all that oil on top, Then you look at Jif, and it's, like, flat, right? That's emulsifiers. They injure that gut lining, and so do antibiotics. So what else happened in the western world that our grandparents didn't have? The overuse of antibiotics, the lack of breastfeeding, the increase in city living where we're just breathing it in, you know, like all of our air, we can breathe this stuff in. That disrupts the gut as well. So there's all these chemicals that the strongest of us can handle it, but slowly it's creating an environment where now the body can start to break down. And so it's. It's basically we're losing the terrain of our gut, which is our second brain. That's where 70% of our immune system lives. That keeps us nice and strong and fights off infection. So when that happens, we have a cascade effect where our digestion goes down. Lower stomach acid, less pancreatic enzymes, less liver function. Because if I have toxins going into the bloodstream because I don't have a mucous membrane. And then also, with the lower good guys, what do you get? You get more bad guys. If I take half the police force out of New York City, what's the Upper east gonna look like? What did it look like with COVID you're like, don't go down 79th right now.
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Michael Chernow
Right?
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Dane Johnson
It's like you don't know. And so now bacteria that could be balanced in the colon and balance in the cut starts to kind of wander around like, yo, what's this over here? What's this over here? And all of a sudden we have sibo. Everyone's heard of sibo. Small intestine bacteria overgrowth. Now we have colonic dysbiosis. But with the weakening of the gut lining again, now they can actually climb up the gut. So the bacteria from the colon can proliferate. This gram negative bacteria can proliferate up the two stories of the small intestine. It's 20ft long. Okay? That's two stories. Your entire GI tract is 25 to 30ft long. Five to seven feet of the colon. Right. Another 20ft of the small intestine, and then you have the esophagus and stomach. Throw it in there. 130ft. So they're proliferating in a place they're not supposed to be, in a weakened area, because the muco mucosal membrane is naturally much thinner in the small intestine than the colon. So you have this terrain, like, just imagine a city. Everyone I know, this is probably like.
- [18:41]
Michael Chernow
It's like a prison in your belly.
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Dane Johnson
Yeah, let me put it to a metaphor. It's like you have like, we're in New York right now. We have New York City. The police officers go down. Okay, More of the bad guys are kind of walking more the streets they weren't walking before. There's more of them, and they're in more areas. Okay, the, the, the electrical system is starting to go in and out. That's the nervous system. Think stress adrenals. Not sleeping enough. You can't sleep because your microbiomes off, which also controls a lot of your hormones and helps your. Your enteric nervous system, helps to control and create melatonin and cortisol. It's this vicious cycle. It's like domino effect. And so through that bacteria, well, all of those, Those bad bacteria, they create something called metabolic endotoxemia. It's a big word that says every day these bacteria die off and they release these toxins, endotoxins, so they kind of release and they release and they release. And now you have a weakened gut. And where do they go? Well, they make it into the bloodstream. Well, all blood leads to what? The liver. Now the liver can't detox. Now you're Getting skin reactions, you're getting eczema, now you're getting psoriasis, now you're getting brain fog, now you get an irritability, now you're getting depression because your body can't even make the hormones. The gut is being destroyed and it's causing. It's the underlying problem of all of these modern diseases. If you look at the metabolics, if you look at all autoimmune disease, every single functional practitioner I've spoke with some of the best in the world, okay, they all are going to start talking about the gut it all. You have to work on the gut no matter what disease, arthritic pains, these endotoxins make it in the bloodstream, start causing arthritic pains.
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Michael Chernow
So what is, let's talk about solution.
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Dane Johnson
Yes.
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Michael Chernow
What did you do and what do you do now to preserve arguably the most critical system in the body?
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Dane Johnson
You know, I spoke to like 2,000 doctors about this the other week. I mean, I've been obsessed with this for 10 or 12 years. And you know, I have a team of doctors on my staff and we work with hundreds and thousands of people with gut health issues. And the hardest thing is you have to realize there's a difference between being a practitioner and a coach. Be right. You can spend 10 years trying to understand the biology of what's happening, right? With the toxemia, the microbiome imbalances, what bacteria, how do you get them up? What are the keystone microbiota, Big words we don't really know what to do with. Okay, great, what do I do about it? Okay, that's where we need simple ways to integrate. Like if you're a personal trainer, you've got to figure out how to help change your client's perspective of what it's like to go to the gym. It needs to be a fun experience, it needs to be exciting. They need to see return on investment and return on energy quickly or they're going to quit. So how do we start to see this? How do we feel better? We have more energy. How do we make sense of diet? This trillion dollar industry where everyone's arguing about meats and plants and this is bad and that's good and that's bad. So what are some simple takeaways we can start to do to get success? Well, there's two things we have to do with, let's say food. The only two things that matter with food is it doesn't cause an inflammatory response. Okay, so eliminate inflammatory response. And number two is that the food increases nutrient absorption So I need high nutrient absorbed food. I need my body be able to take it down, digest it, the pancreatic enzymes to release pancreas to properly absorb into the small intestine. And then for the certain bacteria in the colon to also take a little bit more of that water, there's electrolytes and some of those missed minerals from the small intestine. We need proper absorption. Okay, so how do I simplify that? Here's a takeaway. No seeds, no skins. If you can't squish it, don't eat it. Now is that forever? No, that's if you're getting tons of bloating, tons of cramp, you have tons of GI issues. What can I do right now? Try to eat like food that you could give to a 17 month old baby. Why? Because the baby doesn't have any kind of disease. It's just where the human gut starts to transform. Look at a baby. You just gotta be careful, right? You don't give a baby pumpkin seeds. You can't, you don't give a baby a raw apple, but can you give a baby applesauce? Now I'm not telling you, go buy applesauce at home. I'm just giving you a. The chemistry of it. You need more bioavailability. It needs to be easier in your body because you have low stomach acid, you have a weakened mucosal membrane, you have dysbiotic bacteria. So it needs to be easier.
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Michael Chernow
So like give us some examples of foods that could potentially be good for this.
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Dane Johnson
Okay. I love this. I'm going to work on your nervous system a little bit right now. I want you to eat like a king. If you're on your yacht right now and I'm like, money don't matter. And I bring the sterling silver plate out to you, it's handed to you. You're. You're, you're off the coast of Monaco, you're eating this and you open it up. What's in there for you? What's in there?
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Michael Chernow
A big juicy ribeye.
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Dane Johnson
Okay. Is it conventional or was it, was it from local grass fed?
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Michael Chernow
Grass fed grass finished?
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Dane Johnson
Hell yeah. Is it juicy?
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Michael Chernow
Super juicy.
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Dane Johnson
Is it super soft?
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Michael Chernow
Yes. Tender as hell.
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Dane Johnson
Do you have to chew the hell out of it or do you just kind of melt it out?
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Michael Chernow
Not chewy, melts in your mouth.
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Dane Johnson
So it's juicy, soft, delicious. It's something that maybe even a young person could easily break down. Side of carrots. Do you, do you even need a knife to cut the carrot?
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Michael Chernow
No, it's just Nice and. Nice and roasted.
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Dane Johnson
Well, melts in your mouth. Okay, no seeds, no skins. If you can't squish it, don't eat it. Okay, now forget the seeds and skins is debatable, but what I'm saying there is how you eat like a king is so easy to break down you, you hardly have to chew it. Would you give that carrot to your 18 month old son in that, on that plate? Be like, yeah, here you go. Sure. What about a raw carrot?
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Michael Chernow
Definitely not.
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Dane Johnson
There it is. Eat like a king. It needs to be juicy, soft, delicious. You don't want dry, tough, rough, you gotta rip it off. The freaking bone type stuff. So start changing your perspective of what it is. If we can change the reality that in the relationship we have with it, it gets easier. Same thing with fitness. If I enjoy going to the gym, if I see my friends there, if I'm having fun while my heart rate's getting up, right, then I'm just going to be a lot more likely. That's why I think the whole fitness athletic wear went so crazy. Because people want to look good when they're working out. They want to feel good, feel good and have a great time, get happy and healthy at the same time. You can't get healthy until you get happy. So you got to put on that Bob Marley, you got to get in the sun, you got to find a reason to smile and you got to eat good. You got to celebrate the amazing food from right outside. Right from a farm. You want to know what to eat? Try to eat, eat things that don't require ingredient facts. We sit here and we talk about, oh, you need to learn to read ingredients. Read ingredients. How about this? What's the ingredient facts of an apple? What's the ingredient facts of a grass fed local steak? You ever get tired of eating it? If we just start working on things that don't need labels, it's much easier. Now what did your grandfather eat who never had ibd, never had lupus, never had Shorkins, never had multiple sclerosis? How much of the stuff did they eat that required being able to understand what polysorbate 80 was or red dye 40 0? Now, we know clinically that these things are affecting the gut, right? We know it, the research is there, right? We see Dr. Casey means coming up, we see RFK starting to say, look, the clinical research is there, we're poisoning ourselves. It's destroying the terrain and it's creating a. Basically it's connected to all of these new diseases in one form or another. Now, I'm not saying it's just this one root cause. It's creating an environment where our anatomy is being injured. So that's it. You got to get happy with going back just to connection to Earth. Now there's a different layer. Let's say someone here is listening. Going Great Dane. Yeah, I get it. I've already been eating clean for years. I'm still sick. Just because you take away a lot of the toxins doesn't mean the body can now heal itself. Some of us yes. But some of us know because these alien chemicals in our body, our natural detox systems can't get rid of. Right. They need liver support. This is why the supplement industry is so important. Or the herb industry. Using milk thistle or fennel or ginger or curcumin as a spice. We need to support our natural detox pathways. What are the five detox pathways you need to know about? Liver, kidneys, the ability to poop. Okay. GI skin and lymphatic system. Right. You ever heard of like rebounding or jumping up, down. Your lymph moves when you move. Okay. Because your limp doesn't have a heart, you got to move to get the lymphatic system moving. You have swollen hands, swollen ankles, swollen face. Usually lymphatic system is a little tired out. That's what you do for that. So you want to sweat. Like I love, like sauna will move. Anything that gets your heart moving, your body moving is usually going to do good. They call it rebounding. Kids call it trampoline. I love how a parents, us adults give scientific words for just like play, you know.
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Michael Chernow
So you think trampoline. Jumping on a trampoline is just a great. It's a great technique for lymphatic drainage.
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Dane Johnson
It can be one of anything. If you're moving, it can help. You can get a lymphatic massage. You ever heard of that? Lymphatic massage. We want to move the body. So my favorite is going to be like a dry sauna. The most clinical research is going to be a dry sauna. About 180 degrees or a little bit more. Getting in there slowly. Make sure you talk to your doctor. You're. You're doing this right, but slowly. That's going to be great for HRV dopamine, men's natural testosterone lymphatic system. And you're also. When you sweat, right? If you can't sweat, you're not detoxing. So it's going to help with getting rid of heavy metals and mycotoxins what do you think?
- [28:07]
Michael Chernow
So and how would you compare just traditional dry sauna to infrared sauna?
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Dane Johnson
They're very similar. There's way more clinical research on a dry sauna. So when we actually look at what works and why the higher temperatures seem to work better as an environmental hormosis. So basically a light stress on your body. I have an infrared at home. I got a hybrid. I spent a little bit more money on that and it was like goes up to 165 but when I'm at the gym I like it 180 to 200. And so that stress, right, any kind of stress, a cold therapy is a stress in your body. Running could be a stress on your body. But what we have to understand about stress to help your body detox. The biggest missing link you need to take away right now is helping your body detox.
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Michael Chernow
Let's talk about your morning routine because I mean I'm very curious to know what you do on a daily basis.
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Dane Johnson
And so the first thing you have to do when you're building routine is you gotta be a creature of habit, right? Shout out to what you do. You have to get disciplined in saying, I'm willing to be consistent with this. So everyone, I'd write this down. Consistency is worth more than perfection. When everyone's overwhelmed with disease or getting in shape or whatever you have to do, you have to get consistent before you worry about making it perfect. So if you're not consistent, I'm going to say, show me you can do this for two weeks straight. Show me you can be gluten free for two weeks. Weeks. Show me you can get rid of the alcohol for two or three weeks. When I start, I want to start with the focus of what I'm not doing, more so than what I am doing. Because when you take these things out, the body has the ability to heal itself, right? You don't need a morning routine to heal a wound on your arm. Your wound will heal as long as you stop aggravating it, right? You get a cut, you just put a bandage over it and don't aggravate it. You hurt, you twist your ankle, just wrap it and don't aggravate it. Stop aggravating the disease. Get rid of the toxins first, okay? So my morning routine when I started was just all about can I get happy not doing these things that are injuring and hurting me that everyone else is doing, doing. Okay? So I'm going to bed. At the same time, I'm reducing EMF and blue light. At night, I'm doing, you know, one thing I will do is like prayer and purpose, anything for my nervous system to get going. You know, you could say not or doing, but not wearing shoes outside. Just get your feet in the ground, okay? There's an energetic connection they saw with ground. They call it grounding, right? Adults call it grounding. Regular humans just call playing outside without these shoes on your feet, right? So when you take your shoes off and you get connected to the earth, it actually helps your lymphatic system move. And clinical research has shown that it actually helps your liver, your, your blood start to cleanse itself, Your blood flow gets better. So people with bad blood flow and stagnant, stagnant issues, you can research this and see about grounding. Like you can take a copper stake, put it in the ground, connect it to your bed, okay? And it will help you be grounded. It's crazy. You can ground plants, you can ground humans. So there's little things we can start doing there, but get rid of the bad stuff. Just Say I'm not gonna do alcohol for 30 days. Okay? It's only hurting. It's not helping. And so that's where you start. As you get more advanced, things will make sense. So if I tell you my morning routine, other people will be saying, I can't do that. This guy can't help me because I can't do what he does yet. If he could dunk on 11 foot basketball and he's telling you what to do, you don't start advanced, you start slow. So I'm gonna drive that point home really quickly so people can understand about the overwhelmingness of what do I do do. If you had a bum knee, you ever injured your knee, your shoulders?
- [32:51]
Michael Chernow
I've had two surgeries in my knees.
- [32:53]
Dane Johnson
You ever done physical therapy?
- [32:54]
Michael Chernow
Absolutely.
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Dane Johnson
Okay. Were there things in physical therapy you couldn't do on in week one, but you could do in the third month of physical therapy?
- [33:02]
Michael Chernow
For sure.
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Dane Johnson
And if you would have tried to do what you did on the third month of physical therapy in week one, would it have made it worse?
- [33:08]
Michael Chernow
Definitely.
- [33:09]
Dane Johnson
Same. Same knee, same problem, same person. What you do on month one, on month three versus what you do in week one matters. And at one certain point it can infl you, at another point, it can heal you. Exact same thing.
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Michael Chernow
Very true.
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Dane Johnson
Let that sink in for a second. It's not just what you do, it's when you do it, how you do it, the state of your body when you do it. So I eat certain foods now that people listening cannot eat, that will bloat them, will cause diarrhea, that will cause pain. Raw foods, just think about, you know, what do you want to do next with that kid whose gut is growing into an adult gut? You know, they're just getting their teeth and they're just building their gut. Can you handle fiber? A lot of us can't handle fiber. That's why carnivore works really well for a lot of us. Fib is the indigestible plant matter found only in plants, Right? Most of us want to get into functional medicine. I get to say, give me a sentence on what fiber is. They're like, I have no idea. I just heard. It's good for me, right? So what about can we handle fiber? What about grains? Why can't we handle grains? Do we know what a complex carbohydrate is? If you eat a banana, that's not going to fill you up as much as brown rice. There's certain times you need brown rice over banana, but if they're both 25 grams of protein. What's the difference?
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Michael Chernow
See, it's so interesting.
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Dane Johnson
I mean, I, Well, I mean 25 grams of carbohydrates. Sorry, go ahead.
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Michael Chernow
I'm, I'm in the, you know, I'm, I'm not in the oatmeal business, but I make a product. An oatmeal product, right?
- [34:29]
Dane Johnson
Yes.
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Michael Chernow
And there is only one meal and I, and I struggle with gut stuff. I just actually went through a very intense six month gut rebuild protocol.
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Dane Johnson
Awesome.
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Michael Chernow
And I found out that I had H. Pylori and Candida and I had a couple of parasites. And so I went through this crazy. I didn't want to do the antibiotics because I also have chronic Lyme disease. So I, when I was diagnosed with that, I got smashed with antibiotics.
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Dane Johnson
Right.
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Michael Chernow
And I think that is ultimately the catalyst to what disrupted my gut microbiome because I did, I think I did eight months of antibiotics when I was diagnosed and I spent a year very similar to you. I mean I wasn't hospitalized, but I was in fear of my life. And I couldn't figure it out. No one could figure it out. Until finally someone I met, a functional doc that said, I think you have Lyme. And I was like, I've been tested for it. He's like, no, I, let's go get the real test.
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Dane Johnson
You know, he was right. That's a hard one to find. Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
So ultimately, you know, I think the end, the intense amount of antibiotics and then you know, I had multiple sinus infections. So docs, first thing, sinus infection up, drop the tube down your nose, there's the infection we're gonna hit you with with antibiotics. So when my gut, when I, I wasn't able to digest, man, I wasn't able to, I would, I would eat anything. And you know, it wasn't all the time, but there would be seasons or spells or flare ups where I would just eat. It could be anything. And all of a sudden my gut would just explode. And I just couldn't figure it out. And so finally I sent out a bunch of stool tests, came back H. Pylori, Candida, parasites and a doctor that I went to was like, look, we're just, we're going to kill this. We're going to, we're going to kill it, we're going to wipe it out with antibiotics and then we're going to worry about reproduction, rebuilding it. And I just, the, the word antibiotic just scares me, man.
- [36:22]
Dane Johnson
It's just, it's a tough, it should.
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Michael Chernow
It'S a Tough one for me.
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Dane Johnson
They're overused and they destroy most of your good bacteria. And then it's a race to who's going to recolonize. But the question is, can you recolonize that divine, natural, diverse microbiome that has thousands of different species connecting and talking to each other and talking to your cells? I don't know, can we really rebuild? It's tough. You have to really know what you're doing.
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Michael Chernow
Yeah. Well, this guy, this, this coach that I worked with put me through just this, this, this real intense, really. I mean, a holistic path. But it was a lot of different diet protocols. It was keto, it was carb cycling, it was carnivore, it was like just a bunch of different things and an enormous amount of herbal supplements and ultimately really did help. Right. Like took the candida out. H. Pylori came way down. No more parasite. But I believe that I probably still have some gut stuff, you know?
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Dane Johnson
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
So the one meal. And this is not me just saying this because I have the business, but it is, it is, it is partly as to why I launched the business. Soaked oats with protein and fat. Healthy fats. Healthy protein or a significant amount of protein, not just like 5 grams of protein, like a significant amount of protein. Proteins with soaked oats have been the one meal that I can eat. And it never impacts my gut.
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Dane Johnson
Awesome.
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Michael Chernow
It just never impacts my gut. Now I can't eat.
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Dane Johnson
I know you're not lying because I see so many people with IBD Extreme who will say the same thing. That, that sprouted rolled soaked oaks will work really well for them.
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Michael Chernow
Yeah. It's been, it's, it's like a life, life change. Lifesaver for me.
- [38:02]
Dane Johnson
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Because I really do struggle with this, this, this gut stuff.
- [38:07]
Dane Johnson
Stuff.
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Michael Chernow
And so I'm just curious, like, what is for somebody who is struggling, what is like the ideal sort of pathway? So you're saying no seeds. No. No seeds, no skins. And if you can't squeeze it, don't eat it.
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Dane Johnson
Don't. If you can't squish it, don't eat it. Now that's a very basic concept I love to give to people who are completely lost and new to this. If you're more advanced, take that with a grain of salt. Because there's layers, but at least someone has something. They go to a restaurant, they're like, okay, something I can at least hold on to instead of like, oh, I'm keto. Oh, I'm carnivore. Oh, I'm Plant based. Oh, I'm 500 bananas a day. Oh, I'm fasting. I'm just, you know, it's too crazy. We need some kind of laws to hold on to. And just a little side note, with the H. Pylori, you know, H. Pylori is naturally occurring in about 98 of us. The problem was it was overgrown. Right, because what your terrain couldn't balance the H. Pylori. What we were talking about, the Candida candida is naturally occurring and needed in the cold colon. What is candida overgrowth? The candida is in a position it's not supposed to be and now it's interfering with your gut. It's causing dysbiosis. It's common fermentation to food. So you probably get an undigested food in the stool. Lots of gas, lots of bloat, lots of headache, and you're just, and your appetite's going down.
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Michael Chernow
A lot of brain fog.
- [39:19]
Dane Johnson
A lot of brain fog. And then that's what metabolic endotoxemia. You're hurting Herxheimer reactions. When your body becomes over toxic to toxins, it can't properly drink pain. So if I was working with you, I'd say let's check out your liver and where that next move for you, for people who've already done the kung fu, like Mike here. I'm going, how do I take back that microbiome so it doesn't keep coming back? Because I can kill, kill, kill. But now if your body can't balance itself, you're going to be right back in the same spot in a couple of months and you might be feeling that way. You're like, man, I was good. I'm not feeling that good. Feeling good. I'm not feeling that good. So we got to do probiotic stacking, we've got to repopulate, we got to look at keystone microbiota. Where's your Akkermansia mucini fili, Right? That's a mucus lover. That helps to show a little bit about how well that muco mucosal membrane is working for you. Where's your levels of Lactobacilli bacteroides? Okay, the phylum microbiota. Where's the, you know what is your, your quantitative PCR stool test showing me? I like the gut zoomer. That's going to give me a lot more depth. Where are your short chain fatty acids? Okay, now, now oatmeal can help with short chain fatty acids. Maybe that's something you need. What's the ph balance of your colon, the less pH, or if it's too alkaline, you're going to be more likely to get sepsis and continue to get infection. So we need proper pH, we need proper short chain fatty acids. We got to rebuild that mucosa membrane. We gotta start to work on building that microbiome diversity up, which will modulate the cytokine reaction. Okay. And then your digestion's gonna get better. I just went ninja on you a little bit, so. So all that's really simple to say this. Stay away from the toxic stuff. Number one. It's more about what you're not doing than what you are doing. Your body will heal itself a lot of times. That's why a lot of people said this famous diet. Heal me. Carnivore doesn't heal you. Carnivore creates space for a healing response. What is the best thing about carnivore? There's no sugar. You're going into ketosis. Your body needs protein to heal. That's great. Yeah. And maybe you're not ready for the fibers yet, so you're going to slow all that down. But best believe your mucosal membrane. Brain needs polyphenols. It needs prebiotics to thrive. Right. The mucous membrane. The akkermansia, the keystone microbiota, they love polyphenols. Found in extra virgin olive oil, found in berries, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries. Okay. And so there's a time and place. Physical therapy. Okay. Fiber or food is like physical therapy. If you do it at the wrong time, it'll hurt you. Same problem, same person. At the right time, under the right circumstances, it will help heal you. That's the difference. Right. It's the same thing with, like, you got to know when to put pressure on things. And it's hard. Right? So there's levels of this, there's beginner. And what I want everyone to really get excited about, you can get massive results in beginner mode. You don't have to become a jedi and be able to do double backflips to be able to really heal. You can get great results quickly, and so focus on those foundations. And so where do we start? Okay. We talked about the toxic load. Now we need to start rebuilding the terrain. All right. As we build the train, I like to use certain probiotics that are single strain. Okay. So I like to use only bifidobacterium bifida ephemetum. Okay. And then only use lactobacillus bulgaricus, and then only use Lactobacillus acidophilus. That took me about five years to figure it out, by the way. So everything I'm saying to you right now is 10, 15 years of studying four or five hours a day, going to school for natural medicine, working with some of the biggest functional doctors on the planet, and going and having aha. Moments through the years and trying on myself. I've been patient zero since 2012, 2011. Okay. And I've run these things on a few thousand people with chronic disease. A few thousand? We see like 160 clients a week around the world. I got coaches, doctors all around the world that, that work in. Right. So I'm more of a CEO now who just knows this stuff. And I live this. And I've been paying to purpose so I care. I'm all about trying to do things right. And I'm gonna do whatever I can to get everyone here massive results. Okay, maybe you. Maybe we just talk and figure out what's going on with you and then, you know, try to take it to the next level. So we got to take back that terrain and then we've got to balance. If you don't balance, you're just going to keep getting dysbiosis again. What's dysbiosis? The overgrowth of bad bacteria and the lack of good bacteria. Okay, so colonic dysbiosis turns into SIBO or sifo, small intestine fungal overgrowth, small intestine bacterial overgrowth. When that happens, you're gonna have 10 times the mo. The amount of toxins, endotoxins, also known as lipopolysaccharides, that are going to go into your bloodstream and screw you up and give you that brain fog you were getting or cystic acne. I was covered in cystic acne. And when you take the antibiotics, it continues to. To destroy your natural terrain. So it might kill the bad guys, but it's like a bomb on Lower east side. It's like, great, we got rid of the vermin, but there goes Lower east side. So it's not the best way. I want to send in specific SWAT team to hit them with as minimal friendly fire as I can get. And then I want to double my police officers in there, and I want to send in more medics and more firefighters, take out all the problems, all the fires. James, it's. That's game plan. It's game time, right? So that's what we're going to do. So probiotics, once you start doing well with probiotics I'm going to start testing, testing you with wild crafted fermented foods. Maybe like a coconut kefir. If you're dairy sensitive, I might then work you into a goat or sheep. Now, goat's going to be most like breast milk, so people do best when they go on that. But these yogurts have tons, like 300 billion CFUs of wild crafted bioavailable probiotics. Okay. And they're mostly lactobacillus, lactose milk. Okay. So that's going to be small intestine. When I'm dealing with the colon, I'm going for bifidal longum, bifido infantis, bifidobacteria. Okay. I'm looking for that. I'm going for short chain fatty acids. I'm putting you on butyrate, and I'm getting short chain fatty acid foods that help to build up the butyrate. So I'm looking at ghee, right? I want ghee. I want green bananas, maybe some potato, a little bit of oatmeal.
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Michael Chernow
You know what's interesting for me? So the one, the one food that always aggravates my gut and it sucks because I love it so much. Hit me is sweet potato or any kind of squash. I love squash. I love winter squash. I love delicata. I love acorn. I love butternut. I love all the squashes. I love sweet potato more than anything. I just can't eat it.
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Dane Johnson
Can you eat this much? Just a little bit. If I gave you like two spoons, we'd be okay?
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Michael Chernow
I think so.
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Dane Johnson
So it's when you eat more of it, you react.
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Michael Chernow
You know, I haven't really tested that necessarily, but I just know that if I eat, eat 4 ounces of sweet potato, I. My gut turns inside out, man.
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Dane Johnson
So, so this is what I call food philosophy. My goal for everyone out there is to not have a diet, but build a lifestyle. And then you take the famous diets and what's happening with the food and you just Sherlock Holmes it. You literally just do detective work. Well, what's high in sweet potato? Resistant starches, resistant to being digested starches. And if you have sibo and you have disbiotic bacteria are going to ferment and cause more reaction. So I'm guessing you might get headache, low energy bloating, and maybe diarrhea.
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Michael Chernow
I don't really feel the, the headaches. I don't get a lot of headaches, but I certainly get low energy bloating, diarrhea, or close to Diarrhea and loose stool. Loose stool and certainly brain fog.
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Dane Johnson
Okay, so this might be a fermentation process. So if we were looking at famous diets, what a functional doctor might tell them is to go on the low fodmap diet, right? So low fermenting oxiluride, dinucleotide monosaccharide and polynyl, something like that is what it stands for. Okay. So it's all about the great thing about this type of diet. Remember, a diet is just a strategy to teach you what's going on. So then you can just know. Use it on your Batman belt in the future. You don't stay on it forever. You just got to learn famous diets. I call that food philosophy. So that's how I free people of diets and build a lifestyle. I just teach them the famous diets and then they can look at a plate of food and assess its risk.
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Michael Chernow
Risk.
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Dane Johnson
Just look at it. So sweet potato, I'm going high resistant starch. You might be able to eat a little. Can't eat a lot. So it's a low fat principle. That's most likely dysbiosis still. And maybe some sibo we need to. You're having trouble with resistant starches. So we want to be able to increase those beneficial bacteria and slowly work it up. So I'd say be eating more, start working on, as your body can handle it, more sauerkraut. You need to build that mucosal membrane up. You probably need to get more fermenting foods again to get that microbiome to be able to break down those resistant starches.
- [47:21]
Michael Chernow
Starch.
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Dane Johnson
You might need to go heavier on biofilms and also maybe things like wild of oregano or something to continue to lower those dosages. So I would wonder if you took a few drops, if you could handle it. Okay. This is more advanced. If you could handle wild of oregano with 75% Carvacrol, if you took that around the same time as the sweet potato, does it become easier for you to take? So maybe some digestive enzymes. We take it with a meal and don't eat any other high carb foods, just sweet potato, a little bit of meat, digestive enzymes, maybe a few drops of water, or diet oregano, wild oregano at the same time and see what happens. And then 20 minutes later, I take a binder to grab all those, any, any of the endotoxin release or reaction from the fermentation. Or it could be a histamine problem. Because when people have that sibo, they'll tend to get a histamine reaction. So I'll use something like quercetin or nettles to help calm down. That or I'll take diamine oxidase, which is a dao with the meal to reduce that histamine reaction. But once I know I just fix it.
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Michael Chernow
Jeez. Man, it is insane. Intense. It is like.
- [48:18]
Dane Johnson
I'm sorry if I just word vomited.
- [48:20]
Michael Chernow
No, I'm just. It's just like the journey is so.
- [48:22]
Dane Johnson
It's.
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Michael Chernow
It's a real. It's a real thing. And I feel like there's, you know, one. After going through six months of this journey with, you know, 17 different supplements every day, and the timing and, you know, on. Upon awaking with your first meal, after the third bite, you know, at lunch, with dinner, post dinner, there was just like, the timing of it was so I felt like it was. It just. It increased my cortisol levels because I was always so stressed out about having to make sure I timed all these supplements.
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Dane Johnson
So let's make it simple right now, guys, here's something simple that doesn't cost a thing. Start your morning every day with a hot tea. Okay? In the hot tea, anyone with digestive issues, I want you to use some lemon, organic lemon. I want you to use a little bit of apple cider vinegar. If you can handle. Handle it. Okay? Then if you want, you can add a little ginger. Okay? Ginger's gonna be a little antimicrobial. It's gonna help with any nausea. It's gonna be great for increasing your natural digestion. The more your natural digestion is optimized, the less symptoms you're gonna have. So you're dealing with the problem upstream, so the downstream problems tend to be less. So every morning, like you said, my morning routine, I love to start with a tea.
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Michael Chernow
What kind of tea?
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Dane Johnson
Just hot. I do hot water, either distilled or really clean water, and I just put a little lemon in it. And you just concocted it at home. For people who want to get away from taking a million supplements, just use to learn nature and just learn to add things in as you need. So that's what I'm saying. A little apple cider vinegar. It's not going to cost a thing. A little lemon juice. Make sure it's hot water. Then you can add in maybe a little bit of George's aloe vera. You can get whole food for like nine bucks and just put one ounce of that. It's anti H. Pylori. It's anti ulcer. It's anti gastritis. It helps calm down GERD and esophagus issues. Okay. And it can just calm down that body. Body. Now, if I, if, if we can just narrow down what actually is a reaction. Is it a herx, is it a dysbiotic issue? Is it a histamine problem? Once I can figure that out. Now, my answer isn't 20 things. It's just like, if you know you're going to eat foods that could cause a fermentation response, you're going to do this one thing. But if you start your day optimizing your nervous system and your digestion and you use mucosa healers, you're gonna probably feel great. Just those three things there are low risk and high reward. Create a tea. And in that tea, I can use digestive bitters, fennel, ginger, right? Peppermint. So simple. Cut a little piece of ginger, throw it in there, a little shot of apple cider vinegar, little shot of George's aloe vera, a little lemon juice. Lemon juice is high in vitamin C and electrolytes. I can throw a little salt in there for extra electrolytes. Especially if you're going to go do a run or do sauna. That's it. And then sip on it. Then get out of a sympathetic state. Get your feet in the ground. That'll get the parasympathetic. Just look at the sun. Don't look at the phone in the blue light first thing in the morning. Just find a way to chill your body. How do you know if you're in the parasympathetic? Simple way to success, salivate. If you aren't salivating, you're not in the parasympathetic. That's why when people did prayer and purpose before they ate, it did help. Because their nervous system calmed down. They started secreting digestive enzymes orally. And that helped to increase the natural digestion in their stomach. So take a second. You know, when they talk about chewing your food, all that like, none of us can do it. We're like, I can't chew this 30 times a day for every food I eat, I can fix my gut. Just get yourself salad, salivating and then your nervous system, right? The parasympathetic helps to regulate what your vagal nerve. This basically this nerve helps to stimulate digestion. So if you can get yourself salivating, you're going to stimulate digestion. You're going to probably have less of a problem with the sweet potato. That's when people say, I did German new medicine. I Did eft tapping, I did hypnosis. And my gut's better because they're stimulating the parasympathetic and they're stimulating the vagal nerve. That helps control digestion and the microbiome health.
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Michael Chernow
By the way, what percentage of the country is struggling with gut issues?
- [52:08]
Dane Johnson
Oh my gosh. I mean, do you want my opinion? I can give you some clinical on that, but the clinical I think is behind. It's crazy. I mean, I think it's something like they're considering 20% of America some number around that. Don't quote me. Look this up guys, for me. But I think it's, it's, it's got, I think it's like 80 to 100 million Americans are dealing with some form of GI issue. Bloating, constipation, cramps. You know, one of my clients, one of the most successful guys ever met, was on Miralax for 12 years. No, no one knew. It's like, you know, it's just like what's going on. So yes, it's a lot to figure it out. It's almost like it's overwhelming. But I promise you this, doing it is a lot easier than learning it. What I'm saying, I know it's overwhelming, so just simplify it. And a lot of the answer is just nature. Just go to like old school stuff. You know, plants are just. Herbs are plants. They're right around us. Start with the tea, start with your nervous system. And then my favorite, for like diarrhea, a little glutamine can be great. And if you're a weightlifter, perfect. Win win, right? 5 to 10 grams of glutamine a day and then another one with the tea. And then your morning meal. Give yourself a little bit of time, have the tea, wait 30 minutes and then when you eat, try to get yourself to salivate. You know, maybe the problem is just you're just so rushed in life. You know, everyone's just running and eating. And then there's a convenience problem. I don't have the time to prepare food. Well, this is going to be a great option for that. A little oatmeal can help with that. Boil two eggs or make a shake. One of my favorite things that increases bioavailability and reduces inflammatory response is going to be a shake. Now banana. You want to lower your sugar and increase your resistant starches to feed the short chain fatty acids. Focus on a little bit of greenish banana. Banana not brown, browned out's higher sugar. A little blueberry high in quercetin high in bioflavonoids, high in antioxidants. Little raspberry, low sugar with the highest amount of fiber. And prebiotics. Raspberries. It's got to get them clean, right? So you can do a little bit of this stuff. You can add some protein powder. I like everything unsweetened. A little hack. I buy everything unsweetened and I sweeten it at home. I don't buy anything flavored. Not a yogurt, none of that stuff. Unflavored, hydrolyzed organic beef bone broth protein, 26 grams per served scoop. Extremely bioavailable. Doesn't cause much response with gut issues. Okay, like Paleo Valley's got a good one. Just ingredients has got a good one. Designs for health has got a good one. You know, just get a hydrolyzed beef protein. I don't do whey anymore. I don't do. Me personally. I just don't. I don't do, you know, the, the, the seeds or, you know, or the hemp. I just like this. If you're vegan, I like pressure cooked organic pea protein. Okay, I can get unsweetened pressure cooked. Pressure cooked reduces lectins. Big word for plant defenses. Anti nutrients, increases bioavailability and reduces inflammatory response. I can put a little vanilla extract in there. I can put some dates. Dates might be high in sugar, but they actually don't spike your glycemic index as much as people think. Right. I can go on and on with all these little hacks, but this is why I love it, guys. This is why I'm gonna tell you right now. Learning function or medicine is priceless. It's the most valuable thing on the planet right now. I can talk to a billionaire and I can say it's $100 million to heal you. He's going to pay it because he's got a billion. The price is subjective. So the more you get empowered. The biggest mistake we made is we delegated out our health, just like we delegated out our money back in the 50s and 60s with pensions and unions and the government. And all of a sudden we woke up one day and said, wait a minute. I can't just work without my have four kids and have a wife and buy a house for 60 grand in anymore. I got to take back control of my wealth. Well, guess what? Now we're in the age of we have to take back control of our health. We should have never delegated it out. So build wealth and your health and you will thrive in this Life, man.
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Michael Chernow
I think that's a great place to stop.
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Unknown
I.
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Michael Chernow
The, the amount of content and the amount of information and the. And the tools that, like, I. There is no doubt about it. I'm starting my day every day with a hot tea with a little bit of ginger, a little like, stop.
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Dane Johnson
Cold water.
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Michael Chernow
There is no doubt. So. And then I also love just the simplicity of walking outside with bare feet and just standing in the grass and walking on the grass.
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Dane Johnson
You hear about red light therapy?
- [56:14]
Michael Chernow
Yeah.
- [56:14]
Dane Johnson
Just see morning sun, same thing. Save yourself $5,000, dude.
- [56:19]
Michael Chernow
You are a wealth of knowledge. You are like. I mean, I don't know if I haven't met anybody like you before.
- [56:26]
Dane Johnson
Thanks.
- [56:26]
Michael Chernow
It's incredible. It's incredible.
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Dane Johnson
Yeah. Thank you. This pain to purpose.
- [56:30]
Michael Chernow
You've done it. You've done it and you've healed yourself. And. And I. I encourage anybody listening, you know, to go on to Dange Instagram and just look at that image and, and. And from the guy that's sitting in front of me now to the guy that was, you know, whatever that was 10 years ago.
- [56:46]
Dane Johnson
10 years? Yeah. 10 years.
- [56:48]
Michael Chernow
I mean, holy smokes, man. Congratulations.
- [56:50]
Dane Johnson
Thank you.
- [56:51]
Michael Chernow
Incredible.
- [56:51]
Dane Johnson
And for everyone, just with that whole hope that, that, you know, 10 years ago when I nearly died, I was already practicing natural medicine for three or four years. Don't give up hope. It seemed impossible. Even when I was on the strict diets, it didn't work. The supplements didn't work because it wasn't put together. And the number one reason I failed is because I kept outsourcing my health to a doc, a naturopath doctor, a dc, an md, something. And then I just said, give me the hack. And then I was taking 30 caps a day because the guy told me to. I didn't know it. I didn't own it. Your life won't change till you become the CEO of your health. And when you do that, and when you make the investment on making this a priority, your habits will change, your life will change, and you'll be able to do it not just for you. You do it for your kids. You do it for your mom and dad. And be thankful that you got this and not your family, because I want to go through this. Give it to me, not my mom. Give it to me, not my son. Like, that just gives me. That gives me chills. That gets me so excited. I'm so fired up for myself because there's. You can just change your mind. You can just. Truth is not real. It's a perspective. You know, pain to purpose. You want to be, have purpose in this life, you got to go through a little hell to get to heaven. There's no way. You got to go through it. You can't go around it, you know, and if this helps, you know, share it and, and just realize, like, I want to be empowered. I'm not doing this just to find the hack. That's where you end up wasting money and you get tired, you burn out. I'm doing this because I want to become empowered. I'm done delegating my health. And then at that point, just say this to people like me, say, whoa, whoa, slow the hell down. Make it make sense. Teach me like I'm a fifth grader. Just simple, okay, give me two sentences on why I need to take this supplement. I get. Okay, whatever. Why am I taking this? What's it going to do? How long do I need to consider it? What are the top five things I need to do to get, get my return on energy? Right? That's what's going to build belief. You don't get belief by having just faith. It's faith and hard work and then results creates the massive belief. So you have to have that faith. You got to walk that foggy path, but then you got to put in the work and then make it your own. Because if you keep doing what other people tell you to do, you're going to get burnt out. Make it yours. Hear what I'm saying? Hear what that guy's saying. Read that book, bring it in together, sit down and say, I'm writing out my daily practice plan. So own your daily plan. Take from me, right? Take from Mike, take from everyone and just keep. That's, that's when I healed. When I finally healed, I stopped doing everyone else's plan. I did my plan. Oh, I get. You want to be carnivore. No, no, I'm going to do. I'm going to do a keto based meal once a day and then I'm going to do this fruit based meal once a day. Because that diet helped me in this way and that diet helped me in this way and that supplement helped me. That didn't help. That didn't help. That didn't help. So I'm bringing all this into my plan. So don't just do the plan. Do your plan and your life will change and everyone you care about will change.
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Michael Chernow
Where can the audience find you, man?
- [59:40]
Dane Johnson
Just check. Just do. Use that Internet and Dane Johnson. You'll find me all over Crohn's Clitus Lifestyle we do a free session with you, a strategy session, to talk about case medications, what you've tried, what hasn't worked. We want to put our best foot forward. Integrity and trust is the most important thing to get real results. We want. We want testimony. We want results. We want to create a home for people who are sick.
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Unknown
Man.
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Michael Chernow
Ladies and gents, what a powerful episode. Holy smokes. I'm like, I'm truly, you know, like, my brain is buzzing. My brain is buzzing. And, you know, if this episode impacted you, made you think, put pen to paper for you. Share the episode, share it with someone that you think would appreciate it. Share it with someone that you know is struggling, someone that doesn't have the answers and have asked all the people, all the right people. Share it, because information is medicine. And as far as I'm concerned, you know, we hear a lot today. The world of wellness is complicated. It's confusing, and there's a lot of information. However, take in what you can and leave the rest. There was guaranteed one or two or ten pieces of this podcast today that you will take home with you and you will attempt and you will try. And if it was too much for you, then take the step and reach out to Dane, because he's got a business that helps people try to find their way back home to help health. You know, I think today, and I've said it before, you know, you can have a thousand problems in life, but when your health becomes a problem, it becomes the only one. The only one. And we're here, and I'm here, and this podcast is here to help you find your path, find your way back home. It might not be this episode, it might not be the one that you listened to before, but I guarantee you there's one in. In the mix that will bring you to a place of clarity and. And that's why I do this. So I appreciate you guys. I really do. This community means everything to me. And pass on the episode, pass on the podcast. Share it with someone, and I love you until the next one, y' all.