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Let’s Talk Stem Cells with RejuvStem’s John Merola & Vivek Brahmbhatt
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Michael Chernow
What area in sort of overall wellness do you think stem cell really does tackle?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
I love, number one, your results. When you look at that and think about the question you're asking, like what role our bodies are? The role. Our bodies are magical. When we have the resources so to heal and to resolve those issues that, you know, we're not being able to resolve on our own, that's where the stem cells play the role. They're giving back our body, the power, the boost, the resource to get back in the game.
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Michael Chernow
I'm Michael Chernow and this is the Creatures of Habit podcast. Our habits will make us or break us. It's just that simple. I've lived on both sides of the tracks and have learned that the decisions we make on a consistent basis truly define who we are as human beings. On this show, I will be interviewing some of the most inspiring, motivating and high performing humans I've encountered to share their daily habits, routines, and rituals that help them stay on top of their game and ultimately happy. So sit back, relax, and pay attention because what you hear over the next 30 to 45 minutes could potentially change your life.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Let's go. Ha.
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Michael Chernow
What up, stem cells? We're talking stem cells today. Not the stem cells that they. That there's not a lot of great science behind, but the stem cells that actually heal the body. In February of this year, I went down to Mexico for vacation with my family and. And I was introduced to John Morola and Vivek Brackbaum Brahm Brahbhat, Vivek Brahmb through a friend, randomly. And they have a clinic in Mexico called Rejuvstem. And I thought, hey, like, how crazy would it be for me to be able to go down to Mexico on vacation with my family but also be able to get some stem cells? I made it happen. And I'm here to tell you that. Well, we'll tell the story, but it was. It was really, really crazy. So before I walked into the clinic to get stem cells, my body was just kind of like, littered with inflammation. And I have inflammation in my body, not only because I have chronic Lyme disease, but I just live a stressful lifestyle. That's just the facts. I'm an entrepreneur, busy, my dad, my husband, I train really hard. So my body is just unfortunately inflamed. And a lot of people that walk around the planet, specifically here in New York, have inflammation issues. And so one key sort of signal for me that my body is struggling is being able to take my wedding band on and off my finger. If I can't take my wedding band on and off my finger, I, I know that there is inflammation bad in my body and I'm having either a Lyme flare or I'm just stressed out or my cortisol levels are through the roof. Anyway, walk in there. My wedding band was like plastered to my finger before walking into the clinic and I met with Vivek and we did. I don't remember how many stem cells, but we did thousands of stem cells and IV.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Millions.
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Michael Chernow
Was it millions? Oh, millions. Millions. Millions. 100 million stem cells. And it was Wharton Jelly stem cells. Right?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Correct.
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Michael Chernow
And so these are like the real deal stem cells, like the liquid gold stem cells that, that really help heal the body. There's, there's an enormous amount of science that, that supports this. Anyway, so we do the, the, the treatment and with this podcast, I'm going to also put out a post on social media that documents the whole entire experience for me. As soon as I was done and we got into the car to take me back to my hotel, I looked at Vivek and I was floored because similar to right now, how my wedding band is coming on and off my finger. It was coming on and off my finger for the first time in months and months. I. I'm here to tell you that my wedding band has been coming off my finger ever since I left that clinic. And there is. It's a shame that we don't have this here in the United States, that we can't use that. We can't apply this treatment in the United States yet. But I really can't wait to dive into stem cells with you guys and John and Vivek to talk about the power and almost like the magic that this therapy has for healing the body. And it doesn't. You don't necessarily have to have an injury to get stem cells. You don't necessarily have to have like deep inflammation to get stem cells like I do. This is just like a head to toe, full body rejuveination. Probably why Rejuve Stem is called Rejuv Stem. But it's an, it's an incredible, it's an incredible therapy that I really am excited to share with you guys. So, John Vivek, welcome.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Thank you so much. Thank you so much. And remind me once again, it was three months ago.
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Michael Chernow
It was. Yeah, three months ago. It was just under three months ago that I went.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yep.
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Michael Chernow
And I'm here to say that, like, you know, inflammation is my arch nemesis.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Sure.
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Michael Chernow
It just is. Right? Like, if in Order. And it's not only physically, but like there's a mental component to it as well. Right. Like when my body is inflamed, you know, when I know like a lime flare up is coming, I feel it in my hands immediately, my hands immediately feel it. I get brain fog. I feel it in my hands, my feet get swollen, my joints get swollen, and it's just like a full body. Like it's just discomfort.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Right?
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Michael Chernow
It's just discomfort.
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John Morola
You don't want to get out of.
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Michael Chernow
Bed, basically, you know, and, and I was experiencing that.
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John Morola
Yeah.
- [06:34]
Michael Chernow
In Mexico before I walked into your guys clinic. I know I'm not the only one who has had super success with this. Right. And I know that you all have treated professional athletes, high power CEOs and just like regular people that just want to get healthy.
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John Morola
Well, yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Right, totally. So why don't you guys kind of just walk us through like how the hell did this thing start?
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John Morola
Well, that's me.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah. Well, let's, let's rewind to Covid. The height of COVID a good friend of ours, contracts, goes into icu, comes out, thankfully, but with less than, I don't know, 20, 30% lung capacity. And at the time, you know, this year, Chirag Shah is not only the CEO of Rajiv STEM, but my best friend. And we're celebrating our 40th year this coming December.
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Michael Chernow
Nice work.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah. A friendship. So he at the time was also looking in pretty heavily to support some of his orthopedic issues and into stem cells. And we look for solutions for our friend. Now our friend is a medical doctor at the height of his profession, an entrepreneur. And his life literally was decimated to whether he could make it through the day walking from his living room to his kitchen. Right. And so this turns out where Chirag initially went and looked up what we now have as our clinic, as our laboratory in Guadalajara, Mexico. And Chak, our buddy, goes down for three treatments. Each treatment was 30 days apart. The 90th day, the X rays that you see pre treatment and post were night and day. And he is back five years later to live in a life of full functionality. And that moment is when, you know, we got together and we said this has to be available to more people and why can't we make it at the level and the standard that we're used to having in terms of treatment, in terms of clinics, in terms of quality? And that was the birth of Rajuvstem. And we took a lot of time, energy and effort to and money to invest our Lives for last three and a half, four years now to be able to offer a opportunity for our bodies to have the boost that's necessary with these resources. And these are mesenchymal stem cells that we create, cultivate through the umbilical cord and placenta. And, you know, you fast forward years later hearing stories like yourself, John, initially a patient, you know, turned amazing partner, is a true testament that every step we're taking is started from the one passion, that one. This is a miracle, what our body does with our own stem cells. But when we run out or we don't have enough to hit the challenges. I totally appreciate what you said about your flare ups. I'm a autoimmune psoriasis survivor, and when those flare ups hit, it's not just a physical experience. It affects all of our and the people around us.
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John Morola
Yeah, it drains you.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
I know. John, you came in with an amazing situation, both physically as a. Yeah, because.
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John Morola
One of my best friends, Biggie from wwe, he went for treatment with them and he's like, john, I tore my tricep. So he's like, john, go for treatment. But I had herniated discs around my whole back and my bulging discs in my neck. I really needed back surgery. It was bad. Like, I couldn't. I had to do that Batman shift because I couldn't move my body. So when I went for my treatment.
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Michael Chernow
That was a good Batman shift.
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John Morola
That's how it was. I know. So when I went for my treatment, I said, I want to do my back and my neck. And literally the next day, in the whole time, I was sitting on the balcony and I was overlooking the ocean, and she called my name. And it like this. I turned to her and she go, comes down. She's like, babe, you just moved your neck. It's like, oh, my God. I did. It was a day. It was 24 hours. I just felt amazing. And literally meeting him and being with him, it was just such a breath of fresh air. The clinic, him, the doctors, it was just everything kind of flowed together. And then when I was leaving, I'm like, I want to. I don't want to part ways with him. I don't want to part ways with the company. So I called him and Chirag a couple weeks later, I'm like, I would love to be a part of this. I would like to be a part owner with you guys. So I want to help people because for me, it was passionate. Like, I'm like, you're an entrepreneur. I'm an entrepreneur. I do other Things as well. But this is a passion for me. I'm like, if I could feel this way, why can't I anybody else feel this way? We can get out there and tell people and help other people and feel better. Feel better in your own skin than there's people like, we had someone come from core medical. He had he in the neck fusion surgery. His disc flipped within 24 hours. He was sleeping fine. He used to have to sleep with a horse blanket so he could position himself upright because he couldn't sleep. He was in that much pain. And then boom, within a week he's like, john, I can't believe this. It's incredible what the meskymal stem cells could do.
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Michael Chernow
So I think what would be helpful for the audience listening is to try is to kind of break down what the stems actually do. You guys, can you guys sort of like break down how this whole thing works?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah, I mean, at a highest level and at the initial point of our being one stem cell and developing into these beautiful, you know, bodies and living beings, we are creatures. Creatures with a K. But yeah, you know, you think about that. And through that process, our growth and healing management system fundamentally starts and ends with stem cells. And I say start and end because when you look at our growth phase, right, A newborn pops out. Our stem cells that get us to adulthood in full form, right. Are being produced at a level that are sometimes mind boggling. Right. You think about like in a month and how stems, one stem cell gets created by our beings. Day 30, it replicates, cultivates, harvests, duplicates into a billion. Now you Fast forward past 18, 20. That number at the end of the month went from one to roughly half a million.
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Michael Chernow
So it's literally 50%.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
50%. Now you fast forward into your 20s, past your 20s, to your 30s, 40s, that 500,000 stem cells drops to a hundred.
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Michael Chernow
Wow.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
You know, luckily I'm, you know, I'm 72. No, but you know, hitting the 52 in a minute, right? I'm talking at looking at my stem cell at the end of the month being like 5,000. So you start to look at this graph and you start to see exhaustion of our production of stem cells. And then you look at what we go through on a day to day basis, whether it's just the toxins in the air, the food, the water, the. I mean, I'm blown away today to like see the science around. Our clothes have plastics that are getting into our system. Parasites.
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Michael Chernow
I mean, that literally is so great that you say that because I. I work with a company called Mads and okay, this brand is. It's an underwear company. It's a. It's a men's underwear company, okay. That has identified this idea that our crotch is the most sweaty area in our bodies in addition to our armpits. Right. So what we wear on that area is ultimately what our body. Our pores open up, we're sweating, our pores open up. And they act as sponges. Right. And so they absorb what is is directly on that area. What is it is exposed to. And in studies, there have been microplastics in penis tissue, in testicles.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Wow.
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Michael Chernow
In semen.
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John Morola
Wow.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Unbelievable.
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Michael Chernow
Plastic in semen. And so these guys were like, holy smokes. And like the microplastics have been directly pointed towards infertility, lower testosterone, erectile dysfunction. So these guys were like, holy smokes. This is like a real situation. And they created NADs, which is an. It's a, it's a. It's an organic cotton pair of underwear. I'm wearing them right now.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Nice.
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Michael Chernow
And they prevent that from happening. Right. So, like, it's so interesting that you say that. Like, there is. We are. We get hit from every single angle as human beings walking the planet today.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
It's mind boggling. And at times, what do you do? And so when you go back to the impact that has on our healing management system, right. We don't create enough as we age and as we face more ailment or health issues, we don't have enough to at the potency to fight the fight. And so that's where. And I'm so happy you mentioned, you know, that company or any other holistic approach is what rejuv stem kind of not the focus is how can we be as thorough as possible. Stem cells play a major role. And that's where the infusions of either through the stem cells that are produced from day zero tissue donated by adult moms after a healthy baby's delivery.
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John Morola
Unvaccinated.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yep, Unvaccinated through a C section. So there's no contamination of the tissue. And so stem cells from that source. Right. Is an opportunity for all of us, challenged or seeking to get ahead and be preventative. From an anti aging standpoint, from a longevity standpoint, from a vitality standpoint, that's where stem cells come into the mix.
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Michael Chernow
The thought for I think probably some people of, oh, wait a second, this is coming from like placentas and umbilical cords. From other people.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Like, how does that, how has that played in how has that played a role in the business? Is that, is that also why it's been challenging to get the FDA to approve this in the United States?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah, I think when you look at the requirements for any type of approval, you know, from FDA or scientifically, and they're just amazing. How many clinical studies are complete with amazing results around the world, right? I'm talking in the 5 to 10 to 20,000 different types of clinical studies done. So the challenges is when you have a pharmaceutical, let's say, right, you have a controlled production and you know, you know that that batch of medication, you.
- [19:04]
Michael Chernow
Can run tests made in a lab.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Made in a lab. Right? Now, you know, one. One point of view is that, okay, this tissue can produce so much stem cell. And if you're extrapolating it out to do thousands of people in a clinical study, as they technically do, and spend millions and millions of dollars behind drugs, for example, right. To get the right sample size, that becomes a challenge when you're dealing with tissue donated with a short life, if you will. Right. And I would say, you know, that that becomes the point of. It's not really contention, but the question is, okay, is that enough of a sample size?
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Michael Chernow
You know, there's. It's like stem cell. I think the conversation really, it's not brand new, right? It's been, it's. People have been having conversations about stem cell for a long time. And traditionally, when you think about stem cell, if you pay attention to the world of wellness, you know, we've heard about pulling stem cells from our own bodies, right? You pull stem cells out, you like, I think you spin them and then you put them back. And though that is, I'm sure, you know, has its, has its place, the stem cell conversations that I've heard from people like Joe Rogan and Andrew Huberman and David, you know, Peter Attia and like, the people talking about stem cell at this capacity are not that of stem cells that you draw from your own body. It's stem cells. Correct. It's. It's the type of stem cell that you guys. This type of stem cell treatment and the source that you guys are offering.
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John Morola
At, at the clinic and Vivek said as well, like, once you get that age, it starts deteriorating, and your stem cells in your body, they're gonna start fading away. So when you're taking out of your own body and putting it back into your own body, taking your own stem cells, what can you really do to have that benefit? You're not getting that amount that you should have, like that's why we come to an IV with us. 100 million stem cells. Like yourself, you're putting 100 million stem cells in your body. You're rejuvenating your whole body when it was falling off all that time. So that's. It's like you said, it's just.
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Michael Chernow
Well, I'll tell you another thing that's really interesting. So I have. I do a lot of blood work. Blood work has been a big deal for me over the years. Yeah. You were mentioning. And I started doing blood work on a quarterly basis about, I'd say, three years ago and that. And there's a number of reasons why I do blood work. And, you know, I do my blood work with a company called Blokes, and they take my labs, they sit down with me, we walk through a consultation. They tell me exactly what my blood biomarkers are and what I need to do to potentially increase or optimize some or, hey, you're doing great. Like, you're good there. But I've been doing this blood work, and for years, even before I started doing quarterly blood work, I've always shown up as ANA positive.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Okay.
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Michael Chernow
Now, ANA Positive is an autoimmune marker. It doesn't tell you exactly what that autoimmune issue is, but it just. It essentially says there is autoimmune, and in your system. Right. There is an autoimmune, like, situation going on. I just got my blood work done in. Let's see, we're in April. I got my blood work done in April. I got stem cell in February. I did blood work in September. ANA positive. I did blood work in April, and I got my results back about a week and a half ago and went through my consultation for the first time ever since I've been doing blood work. ANA negative.
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John Morola
Wow.
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Michael Chernow
I can't tell you that that was. It was the stem cell.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
But I could tell you that for the first time in my life, and I didn't even think about this until we. Until you guys are sitting here. ANA came up negative for me and my blood work. And, you know, I would. I would argue to say that putting a million, a hundred million stem cells into my body have really helped my body and my immune system to fight back inflammation, which is ultimately what autoimmune creates. Right. The body attacking itself.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
And so I'm just like, I. I'm, you know, I'm a living kind of breathing example of somebody who has experienced this and has had great success with it. And so for those listening that Are like obviously kind of intrigued at this point. Right. Like is, you know, some people say stem cell is like the fountain of youth. It's like the ultimate healing source.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Like what would you say? Like what would, how would you describe stem cell as, as, as a healing agent to somebody that's listening? Like, like where would you, what area in sort of overall wellness do you think stem cell really does tackle?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
I love number one, your results. When you look at that and think about the question you're asking, like what role our bodies are? The role, our bodies are magical. When we have the resources so to heal and to resolve those issues that, you know, we're not being able to resolve on our own. That's where the stem cells play the role. They're giving back our body the power, the boost, the resource to get back in the game. Right. And that's why we look at our therapies very holistically. Right. Not it's, it's, it's stem cells. We encourage and involve exosomes. These are another growth factor that when we produce stem cells, our body shoots off these byproducts. Growth factors. Almost 3,000 exosomes are included in our therapies. Right. We look at our platelet rich plasma, we look at the nutritional factors. So so many things are involved in creating what I like to call a wellness storm. You know, a healing cascade, like a waterfall, let's rejuvenate, reignite that healing process. And that's where stem cells play a big, a significant role and encouraging role. So it really allows our body's stem cells to come back to the party, if you will. Right. And really turn it back on. And it's kind of by association, right. When we hang out with like minded entrepreneurs, what are we starting to do and think and be, you know, when we hang out with, you know, people, you know, couch potatoing. Right. We can easily get that influence. So these new born, basically post delivery, healthy baby, it's not from the baby, but you know, those stem cells, they're fired up, they're ready to go, they're ready to party. And what does that do? It engages our bodies healing.
- [26:46]
Michael Chernow
You know, it's interesting. I just wrote. So every week I write an email to the creatures of habit community.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Okay.
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Michael Chernow
And I've been doing that for about 166 weeks now. So I have not missed a week. It's basically my, it's going to end up being my book. I've said once I hit 300 weeks, I'm gonna figure out a way to make all of those emails my book nice and I've been very diligent about it. And a couple of weeks ago I wrote an email to the community about self investment interrupting this episode to share with you how we keep this podcast going and that is by you supporting us through trying out or subscribing to Meal1 on creaturesofhabit.com I am giving a 20% discount on your first order or your first subscription order, which is a serious discount. Meal1 is a superfood meal. It is a blend of gluten and glyphosate free oats. It is packed with 30 grams of plant based protein, omega 3 fatty acids, a probiotic diet, digestive enzymes, vitamin D3. It also has chia seeds, flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, and a little bit of pink Himalayan Salt. There are 37 grams of healthy carbohydrates and anywhere from 7 to 10 grams of fat, depending on the flavor. You will be full for hours, people, I promise you. We developed Meal One to help you perform at your absolute best to get that incredibly healthy and convenient edge on the competition. There is not a better, more convenient meal to start your day with or or use as a pre or post workout meal. The macros are perfect and sourced with the cleanest ingredients in the game. Take your performance to the next level. Make your life much easier by saving time. Be able to eat healthy without sacrificing flavor and all while staying full for hours, making your urge to snack far, far less. Hop over to creaturesofhabit.com that is creaturesofhabit.com and use promo code K O H P O d the number 20 for your first order of meal one today. Back to the pod. For whatever reason, when it comes time to spending money on ourselves, whether it's through traditional therapy, whether it's through a retreat, whether it's through even a massage, like, we always recoil for the financial implication, right? It's like, ooh, I can't really spend. But like, when it comes to thinking about working around the clock for people to like buy the, the freaking car that they dream about, it's like, oh yeah, as soon as I get that money, boom, I'm spending it right on that thing.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
And, and, and, and, and when you, when you see something that you want in a store, you work together, you just, you're just like, all right, I'm going to go get that.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
When it comes to investing in self, for some reason we have this hesitation, right? This, like this, this. There's this conversation that sparks that's like, I don't know. I'm not sure about that. Like, and it's because typically those kinds of investments don't produce this instant gratification of this feeling, this dopamine rush that hits that potentially releases some serotonin. And for that moment you're like, yes. And then it just dies off. Right. The self investment stuff tends to be that sort of delayed gratification.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
And it tends to be, it tends to cost more money to self investment. Right. Like, and so what the commitment that I've made this year to myself is, hey, man, like, if there's an opportunity to invest in yourself, just go for it. Yeah, just go for it. Because you. There's not going to be. You don't have. Like, we're not here forever. Yeah, right. Like, we're just, we're just not here forever.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
And if there's an opportunity to get even an extra day, an extra week, an extra month, God, man. An extra year, like, oh my gosh, how incredible is that? Right?
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John Morola
Like, I love that you're saying this because that's, that's what my wife said to me when I went for my treatment, my first treatment, because I've done so many things for other people. I bought houses for people, I bought cars for other people. I've helped so many other people in my life. And she said to me when I was contemplating going after my tricep surgery to my back and everything, she said, do something for yourself for once. Invest in yourself. Basically she's like, pay the money for yourself and do it. What do you have to lose? Like, do this and you're gonna feel. And it literally would change my life. It put me on such a course that has made me feel the relief I ever have in my body. I want to tell everybody about it. I want to help everybody about it. The self investment, yes, it could, like you said, it could be costly, but that's the thing. You could. Like you said, you're gonna buy a car, you're gonna buy other things for What? A watch? $15,000, $30,000 watch. Put that into your own body and make yourself feel better. Take the inflammation down, take everything out and put your body in such a relief. You're going to change other people's lives and you're going to change your life for the better and take that course of action like I did. It's going to be overwhelming how you feel. It's going to just, like, you're going to just have such a relief like yourself, like myself, like V. So many people have come and done that. Like, wow, thank you. That's. That's what I want.
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Michael Chernow
I think the. The real sort of crux of it and the kind of. The message that I'm out here screaming from the hilltops with my brand, but just with me personally is we all want to. And, you know, we want. Is the big thing. We all want to show up as our best self.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Right. Like, there's very few people that you can sit in a room and say, hey, like, would you want to show up as your best self today?
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Very few people would be like, nah, not interested. Yeah, I'd much rather be a bum. You know what I mean? Like, very few people. So we all can agree that 99% of the population wants to show up as their best self. Right. What I've learned along my journey is that the. The only way to show up as your best self is to be well.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
It's to be well. If you feel good.
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John Morola
Yep.
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Michael Chernow
Chances are you are going to perform well. And when you perform well, you. You help and impact other people. Right. Like, that is the ultimate.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
That is the ultimate outcome of great performance. Right.
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John Morola
Total.
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Michael Chernow
And, like, I believe at my core that there's. I mean, there's so many different things that we can do on a regular basis to show up well. But there are some. There are some extraordinary opportunities that we have today.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
To say, you know what? Like, I'm gonna take the risk. I'm gonna take the leap, because I know that if that, for me struggling with inflammation or me struggling with brain fog, like, if I have a dream of building that amazing house for my family, like, my chances of getting there are just diminished by showing up with brain fog, with inflammation, with not feeling well. Because what that does is, from my experience, it actually turns me into a selfish person when I'm not feeling well. When I'm not feeling well, I tend to spend a lot more time thinking about myself.
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John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
And tend to spend a lot more time thinking about myself at. Not in a positive way.
- [34:01]
John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Right. It's not like I'm like, oh, you know, thinking about myself. Like, yeah, I'm killing it.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Right.
- [34:06]
Michael Chernow
Thinking to myself, like, what am I going to do? This is so painful. This sucks. And every second I spend thinking that way, you're not. It just throws a cloud on any progress.
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John Morola
Yes. It's just. You're a negative. It's negative. Then you're just thinking negative, and you're putting that negative energy out there. Then when you want to Bring that positive energy in. And you're right. 100%.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
And how many of us have the pain point because of the inflammation or because of the fog that we start to become accustomed to. To it. Right. And we start to say that, oh, this is just, I'm getting old or I'm, you know, it was part of life. This is part of life. And we, we, we let go of the power that we still have to. And sometimes people just don't know. What else could I do to get rid of this? Maybe this is just the way life is going to be. This is it.
- [35:01]
John Morola
Yeah, that's it.
- [35:03]
Michael Chernow
You know, I'm 44. I'm going to be 45 this year.
- [35:06]
John Morola
Feel great.
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Michael Chernow
Thanks. I feel, I like. And it's not with, with, you know, without pain and suffering at times, of course. But like I do believe that I have made the commitment to self invest and I'm so grateful that there's guys like you out there that have literally. You, you're a chemical engineer, you're a real estate developer. Like you, you, you, you, you've been in real estate for the last 20 years. Like you guys have legitimately, like uprooted.
- [35:35]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [35:35]
Michael Chernow
A portion of your life to create an opportunity for people because of your experience, because of your experience with Chirag, because of your personal experience for people to come and heal.
- [35:49]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [35:49]
Michael Chernow
And that is, that is powerful as. Yeah, right. It just is, it's just like. And, and, and I think, look, it's not going to be for everybody because it's not cheap. Right. It's not, it's not like, you know, insurance doesn't cover this, but for the people that have the means to, to do it, like, all I could say is if you're on the fence from my experience and that's why I wanted to have you guys on here. Take the fucking leap. Yeah, just take the leap. Give it a shot.
- [36:25]
John Morola
Just give it a shot.
- [36:25]
Michael Chernow
Just give it a shot. Because there's a reason why some of the most extraordinary people in today's media and influence talk about what you guys are doing.
- [36:37]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [36:38]
Michael Chernow
Right. Like there, it's, it. Most people at that level would not put their necks out there and put their, put their, their name on something that did not have deep impact.
- [36:52]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [36:53]
Michael Chernow
You know, and I just think it's important to be able to share this, this, this, this like magical.
- [37:00]
John Morola
Yeah.
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Michael Chernow
Treatment and therapy. Yeah. Because like I can't wait to get back down to Mexico. Talk to me about this, this. You had mentioned about the Zawa MU cells.
- [37:11]
John Morola
So it's multi lineage, differentiating, differentiating stress enduring cells. So we can start speaking about this because this is revolutionary. We're one of the only clinics in the world to have access to the muse to dissolve immune cells. It's. It helps with cte, helps with multiple sclerosis, helps with Parkinson's disease.
- [37:32]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Neurological.
- [37:33]
John Morola
Neurological disease. It's autoimmune. It's incredible.
- [37:36]
Michael Chernow
So is this the next level of. Or like the next is like more potent.
- [37:41]
John Morola
This is going to take, it's going to take stem cells to another level.
- [37:43]
Michael Chernow
So how does it. Where do you harvest these from?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
So they come from mesenchymal stem cells. Right. And so Dr. Dizawa came across this opportunity or this, this potency inside the mesenchymal stem cells where she was doing some scientific research and they use the wrong reagent or component. It was a mistake. And it's a miracle in the sense that what it does is it has the potency to really hone in on target sites. Now what's a target site? Any area of our body that's screaming, I'm not working. Not working as well, or I'm failing.
- [38:39]
John Morola
Or even if you don't know sometimes too, because something in your body like, oh, my shoulder hurts. But it's not your shoulder really. It could be a scapula that's going up to your shoulder. You don't know. So with these, with this is just an iv, the desire mu cells is just an iv. That's it. And it just literally knows where to go in your body.
- [38:55]
Michael Chernow
Wow. I mean, before we turned on the camera, I was telling John that I've had what I thought was a shoulder injury for a long time. And it was, it happened in CrossFit. I was doing an overhead squat. I felt something go. I like, I typically do just train through the pain. That's kind of just unfortunately what I do.
- [39:17]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [39:18]
Michael Chernow
And I didn't get an MRI on it, but I knew that it was something and I knew that I was, you know, I had, I had a pretty significant injury in my shoulder about, I don't know, it's got to be like maybe six weeks ago. I was in the gym and I was doing bicep curls and I saw this like weird lump on my bicep. And I was like, what the hell is that?
- [39:40]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [39:41]
Michael Chernow
And then I saw. And then there's this dip from my bicep to my shoulder. So I was like, all right, I got to get this look. Yeah, like it's a lump. Like that's a Weird thing. I don't want to see a lump. Like, lumps never look, never make me happy.
- [39:52]
John Morola
There's nothing good about a lump.
- [39:53]
Michael Chernow
Nothing good about a lump. So I went to the bone and joint guy in my area and he was like, yep, like, you've got a bicep tendon tear. That's what it is. And he was like, probably you had a partial tear for a long time and it finally just popped snipped. And so when I was telling you that, you were like, oh, yeah, we got a guy that came in that had a bicep tendon tear and injected in there and the.
- [40:16]
John Morola
But.
- [40:16]
Michael Chernow
And it actually reattached.
- [40:18]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Exactly.
- [40:19]
Michael Chernow
That's insane. Because this doctor that I saw was like, the only thing you can do surgery is get surgery, and it's not necessary. So if you're. If it. This will not, like, diminish strength in your arm, but you're gonna have that lump on your bicep forever. Unless you want to attach it back to your. To your. To the tendon there or to the. To the muscle, to the bone or whatever it is. And so I kind of just like chalked it up. It's like, that's what it's going to be. You know, it kind of makes my bicep look a little bit bigger. I'm not mad at it, but now I'm here. Like, the fact that you said that. That the stem cell injection actually reattached. So can you also talk to me about, like, your neck and your back and like, how that's progress is gone.
- [41:06]
John Morola
It's. It's incredible that that was the big. I said that was the biggest reason I wanted to become a partner in the company, because I couldn't. Like, I had herniated this. Like, I was so bad. I couldn't. I want to. Want to get out of bed. It was so bad. And we went to the hospital in Cancun, and I was caused nervous. Like, I'm getting my spine injected. But the doctors, Dr. Ortega and the whole nursing staff and Dr. Zemano, they were so accommodating. They made me feel so comfortable going in. And they injected throughout my whole spine, throughout my whole back, my neck. And it was just literally, I couldn't believe it. Within 24 hours, like I said before, I felt amazing. It was just a progress. And the progress. It was funny because a month later, because you have to wait a few weeks to do a massage. You have to wait a few weeks to work out. So after a month, I had my Chiropractor come over. And I was like, my back hurts a little bit. And he started laughing. Goes, you know why? Because you have movement. He's like, you moved your back. You're moving too much now. He's like, you're moving so quick. Because I had so much move. I was just. I was like. I felt free. Finally, I was. I started running again. I started playing with my kids. I couldn't get on the floor to play with my son and my daughter. I was in the yard playing football with him, running with him. There was just a breath of fresh air to actually feel good in my own skin. And I walk around normal, run normal. And literally, the pro over the time and the progress has just been. It's in. I can't even speak because it's captivating to me that the progress and the relief that I have from it is just incredible. With one. One time. That was all I needed, was one time. My back and my neck, those injections, and I feel amazing. I don't need it anymore. That's the thing also, like, we've kind of said with America, that's a cure, and they don't want that in America. You're just doing the injections in your back. Yes, it could be $30,000, but that's it. I feel amazing. So if America just do surgery and what does that surgery gonna do? You're gonna be in pain anyway. You're gonna just be in pain now. Like, what. What is it gonna do for you? In realistic. People come with knee replacements. Like, oh, man, I. I wish I didn't do it. I actually didn't do it with Fusion. I didn't wish I didn't do this. You're right. I wish you didn't either. And you came to us and did the stem cells. Yeah. You're gonna, like you said, self investment. Do that. Take this. Take the leap of faith. Do what I did, and you're gonna see the benefits, and your whole life is gonna change for the better. Like you said before, it's just the positive energy that you're gonna put out for my wife, for my kids, how I was. Because I was miserable in my own skin. I didn't want to go anywhere. I would go work out. Excuse me. I would go work out. But when I come home, I wouldn't want to move. I would just. I would force myself to work out because I wanted to stay in shape and I wanted to feel better, but it wasn't feeling. But I was feeling worse in the process. So it's it's amazing what it can do. And we've had so many patients come and. And they're such good friends of mine now, like Brian Goldstein, he came for his back. He's coming back soon to do an IV cell iv. He's the people that I've touched with now. It's like yourself. Like, I. I love speaking with you daily. It's just a breath of fresh air to the positive energy that people put out coming to us. Everybody's on the same wavelength at that point. You just like, wow, I feel. I feel amazing. Thank you. And that's the calls I love and the text messages I get, like, thank you. Like, I've had people say, you saved my life. And I feel the same way about him. Me going to see him. It saved my life. I was down a dark path because for years and years, I've dealt with pain. My stomach, I had. I was born with mal. Rotation of the intestines. I was one in a million. I literally went to the doctor. I became bulimic. So I went to the doctor, said I was like, listen, I'm bulimic. I've been dealing with this pain for years. I can't keep anything down. So I had to have surgery because they said it was one in a million. I was going to die. They said, john, I don't know how you're alive. You lasted 35 years. I don't know how you're alive because you should have suffocated and died and you should have collapsed by now. And I would go through pain. I didn't understand why, because they wouldn't do an MRI or CAT scan for such a long time. I finally did the surgery. It didn't give me any relief. They said, like, you're not going to die now, but you're still going to have the pain because your. Your intestine doesn't know what's going on. When I went for my IV in August last year, everything changed. I did the stem cell iv. My stomach is normal now. I can eat vegetables again. I can have broccoli, I can have onions. I got peppers. I couldn't eat any of that. I would barely be able to eat meat because it would just be so hard for my assistant to digest. Within a month, I would say to Christina, I'm like, I'm hungry. I feel more hungry now because my stomach is actually digesting food. Normally. I was able to actually eat anything I wanted. It was. It's incredible.
- [45:35]
Michael Chernow
I mean, it just sounds like, you know, anybody listening to this is probably like, it's just too good to be true. It sounds like one of those like scams.
- [45:44]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [45:44]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Right, right.
- [45:45]
Michael Chernow
And, and I mean I look everybody that, that is a follower of this podcast, trust me.
- [45:55]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [45:55]
Michael Chernow
I have zero interest in anybody going out to invest in themselves in, in some way without me doing it first and, and sharing my story. I mean that's what this podcast is really. We talk about habits a lot.
- [46:10]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [46:10]
Michael Chernow
But because you guys are an expert in this specific, very, very, very powerful treatment, I wanted to take a break from talking about habits and really introduce this opportunity for people to understand that there is more available to us than we, than we potentially know. And you know, I'm just, I'm grateful for guys like you that have literally just like uprooted your life to really create something like this for people to really thank you for this to exist. You know, where can, where can the audience learn more about Rejuven?
- [46:50]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
So of course rejuve stem R E J U V stem radio.com cool. Right there we have an Instagram.
- [46:58]
John Morola
We have gonna have a YouTube up with all our clients. We're have a big YouTube coming. Instagram is flowing right now. We're gonna have more stuff coming on there. We're building up our content. We're going to start pumping everything out so you'll see a lot of patients, you're gonna see a lot of ads, everything. Coming up 3 truestem.com you get more information. We're gonna have a lot more stuff coming. So it's going to be, it's fascinating.
- [47:17]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
What we're doing and anybody that is concerned or scared or stickers, price shock, don't take, take the first step. You don't have to leap. Just take the first step and see what's even possible. You know, go through a couple of steps in, in understanding what is even available. And you know, I mean there's, there's folks that are not in debilitating situations where their health is even aesthetics. Yeah, aesthetics, exactly where I was going to go. I mean there are a lot of people spending a lot on stuff that is temporary, is not regenerative in terms of their, their beauty or, or in addition to their health. Right. And so there are areas that we're supporting a lot of folks both aesthetic and even on the sexual wellness side, you know, from whether it's the, the mention that you had in terms of erectile dysfunction women and, and o shots. Okay. For their orgasm. Right. This is a, an adult friendly podcast.
- [48:27]
Michael Chernow
For sure.
- [48:28]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
We've had, we've had patients that have received that, that, you know, have experienced, you know, orgasms unlike they've ever had in their life.
- [48:38]
Michael Chernow
Life changing.
- [48:39]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Life changing. Right. So there are so many different areas that the regenerative planning can go. So don't cut yourself short. Take a first step, is what I would say, and just see, see what's even possible with us. And we're going to be in your corner no matter what. If it's with us or without us, we want you well. And that's where our passion lies. And so that only makes us better when we learn more about what people are dealing with. And can we be a part of their wellness journey? If. If we can. Great. Otherwise, we're cheerleading for you.
- [49:17]
John Morola
Yeah. There's a lot, like we said, like, there's so many with aesthetics, like stem cell facial. We've had patients come with psoriasis.
- [49:23]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Oh, yeah.
- [49:23]
John Morola
Rosacea. All these things. It was bad and they did the facial. It was gone. It went like, like, the results have been amazing for the people. Even hair, not just pain, like face. Like, think about when someone walks outside and they have that in the face. They don't go outside. They don't want to be in public like that. They're, like you said, beauty. Like that's, that's, that's damaging to their soul at that point. Like, I don't want to be outside like that. We've had patients come and they text us like, I can't believe this. Like, my, my face is clear. I have clear skin again. So it's. There's so many things that we can help. And it's.
- [49:56]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Plus hair.
- [49:56]
John Morola
Yeah, hair. Stem cell hair. We do that as well.
- [49:59]
Michael Chernow
So what is that?
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
So depending on the stage of any kind of hair loss, there's ways to support growth.
- [50:09]
Michael Chernow
Hair regrowth.
- [50:10]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Hair regrowth. Right. And then there are stages where people have gone past any follicles left. So we work together with any kind of follicular. Right. Transplant stuff, but to amplify and speed up the healthy hair growth process.
- [50:33]
Michael Chernow
So, I mean, it's like, it literally does sound. It sounds like the mirror.
- [50:38]
John Morola
Everything's a mirror.
- [50:40]
Michael Chernow
You guys, you guys have really sort of honed in on something that has so many different optimization.
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John Morola
Yeah.
- [50:49]
Michael Chernow
Quality.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [50:50]
John Morola
Right. It's so many benefits.
- [50:52]
Michael Chernow
Yeah. And like, look, this isn't, this isn't a, A. We're not trying to sell anything. Anybody. Anything. No, this is, this is, this is me information coming down to, to experience this with you guys having an absolutely incredible experience and feeling Obligated, generally, and genuinely obligated to share with the community. Right. At this point in my career, you know, I have. I'm an entrepreneur, and I've. And I've created a handful of businesses, but. But I've also built this personal brand that has been sort of like a toolkit for people to rely on for products and experiences that I've gone through and committed to myself and have had great experience, great, great results with. For people to say, hey, like, I wonder. Like. Like, I'm looking for a certain thing. Like, people have literally, like, looked at my Instagram handle and been like, oh, let's see what Chernow's up to. You know, and I've been able to really introduce things to people that they might not have known of or just to endorse something that I use every single day. Yeah. And, you know, I have no problem, zero issue saying very clearly, I want to look good and feel good. I have, like, people shy away from being like, oh, yeah, I want to look good. Yeah, why wouldn't you want to look good?
- [52:19]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Right.
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Michael Chernow
Right. Like, why would you be shy to say that? Like, people think, oh, that's frivolous, or, oh, that's caught. That's. That's egotistical or whatever it is. And for me, it's like, no, no, like. Like, when you look good, you feel good.
- [52:31]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah.
- [52:31]
Michael Chernow
Right. Like, and feeling good is ultimately what generates happiness. Like, you want to.
- [52:36]
John Morola
Yeah.
- [52:36]
Michael Chernow
You want to optimize in all those ways. Right. And so this is. This is. This is me bringing you guys on the show to share this incredible, like, option for people that have the ability or have the means to be able to. To take the investment. And I'm just, again, like, you know, I'm not the only one talking about stem cells in a miraculous way. Right. Like, you. You go to any, you know, impactful podcaster and you type in stem cell in their show, and you're going to see just a list of people talking about it.
- [53:12]
John Morola
Right.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
Yeah. Thank you. I can't thank you enough for letting us be a part of the conversation in this community of yours that you care for and you.
- [53:20]
Michael Chernow
I love.
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Vivek Brahmbhatt
I love what you've done. I love. I was ready to, you know, obviously be grilled on my habits, and I was like, no, I don't want to talk about my habits.
- [53:30]
Michael Chernow
Yeah. Today. I thought today would be a nice way to depart from that a little bit, you know, and really talk about what you guys are bringing to the. Bringing to the world.
- [53:38]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
We are. I'm like, Giddy excited. I'm trying to just keep it chill right now, but this summer and these dissolve cells are game changers.
- [53:48]
Michael Chernow
Yeah, I got to get in there. I got to get in.
- [53:50]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
So when. When we're excited already about what we're doing in the. With our lab, when we talk about these dissolve cells, what. What's happening is they have such a endurance and I want to say the intensity of their repair capabilities. We're just grateful that Dr. Dezawa has given our lab, one of few clinics and labs in the world, the licensing opportunity with them. So as we look forward and summer of 25 is going to be super alive.
- [54:34]
Michael Chernow
Summer of 25, I will be down in Canada. Thank you guys so much.
- [54:41]
John Morola
Appreciate it.
- [54:42]
Michael Chernow
Family, community. I really hope that this podcast gave you potentially a little bit of hope that if you are struggling in some way with an injury, an autoimmune situation, just general sort of unwellness, that there is. This is an option for you. And I know it was an option for me, and I took advantage of it. And you know, this podcast is here to sort of help bring optimization and sort of light into your life. And these guys have done that for me and a plethora of other people. So I think it'd be worth just checking out Rajuvstem. Just take a peek at it. You know, pop onto the website and do a little research and see if it's something that is for you and if not, and this conversation inspired you, but it may not be for you. Pass it to somebody that you think could potentially appreciate this or want to take advantage of something like this. Share the podcast. That is the only rent I ask you to pay to participate on this journey with me. A five star rating and a review would be nice. So if you're feeling super generous and you want to do that, maybe hit the subscribe button. I would love you forever for that. But other than that, family, I am so grateful for you. I appreciate you guys from the bottom of my heart. Until the next one, y' all. Peace.
- [56:11]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Thank you, brother.
- [56:13]
Michael Chernow
Thank you, guys.
- [56:14]
John Morola
Yeah, it was great. It was awesome.
- [56:16]
Michael Chernow
I appreciate you guys.
- [56:17]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Oh, I love it.
- [56:18]
John Morola
It was easy. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
- [56:20]
Vivek Brahmbhatt
Thank you.