Kreatures Of Habit Podcast
Episode: Uncomfortable Either Way with Brett Eaton
Host: Michael Chernow
Release Date: August 13, 2025

Introduction

In this compelling episode of the Kreatures Of Habit Podcast, host Michael Chernow welcomes Brett Eaton, a seasoned coach, author of the book Uncomfortable Either Way, and founder of an inspiring retreats business. The discussion delves deep into the themes of confidence, commitment, courage, authenticity, and the pursuit of happiness through well-established routines and habits.

Understanding Confidence

The conversation opens with a profound exploration of what confidence truly means.

Brett Eaton defines confidence not merely as the belief that everything will go right but as the assurance that one can navigate through challenges if things go awry.

“Confidence is belief in yourself, but I think a lot of people believe that it's belief in yourself that everything's gonna go right. And I think more confidence is gained knowing that if things go wrong, you can still figure it out.”
— [02:00]

Michael Chernow expands on this by linking confidence to commitment, suggesting that consistent commitment leads to repeated actions, which in turn build confidence.

The Three Cs: Commitment, Confidence, and Courage

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Brett's concept of the Three Cs, pivotal elements in overcoming addiction and personal challenges.

1. Commitment
   Brett emphasizes that commitment is the most challenging yet foundational aspect.

   “Commit is the first circumstance. Commitment breeds confidence reps...”
   — [03:00]

2. Confidence
   Building on commitment, consistent actions reinforce confidence, enabling individuals to face uncertainties.

3. Courage
   Finally, courage is portrayed as essential for greatness, acting as the bridge between commitment and confidence.

   “Courage is the prerequisite and requirement for greatness, you know, 100%.”
   — [05:00]

Authenticity vs. "Fake It Till You Make It"

The duo debates the commonly touted advice of "faking it till you make it." Brett articulates his stance against it, advocating for genuine authenticity.

“I strongly disagree because... you pick up on that the moment you fake it till you make it.”
— [07:50]

Michael shares his experiences in his restaurant career, highlighting how inauthentic confidence can be detrimental.

“I never wanted to hire the person who was insanely confident and had no sign of... I'm a little nervous here.”
— [12:00]

They concur that authenticity fosters true confidence and deeper connections with others.

Personal Stories and Life Lessons

Brett shares a transformative personal experience of volunteering at a summer camp for children who have lost loved ones. This act of service profoundly impacted his perspective on life and success.

“I can't think of a single thing I could have done that would have been more impactful in my life.”
— [17:30]

He contrasts the empty pursuit of material success with the fulfilling nature of helping others, emphasizing the importance of defining one's own success beyond societal expectations.

Happiness and Prioritizing Relationships

The discussion shifts to happiness, with Brett articulating that true happiness stems from prioritizing what genuinely matters.

“I am my best self when I'm of service. I just am.”
— [29:04]

He underscores the significance of setting boundaries to ensure that personal time with family and self-care are not compromised by external demands.

“The boundaries that I create in my life today are for me.”
— [53:13]

Morning and Evening Routines

Both Michael and Brett delve into their daily routines, highlighting the importance of structure in cultivating successful habits.

Brett's Morning Routine:

1. Beat the Snooze Button
   Starting the day without delaying.

   “A great morning routine starts with beating that snooze button.”
   — [44:00]

2. Hydration and Supplements
   Consuming water followed by vitamins and a specialized green drink.

   “I drink 30 ounces of water first thing... and then I make this green drink.”
   — [44:41]

Michael’s Evening Routine:

1. Wind-Down Techniques
   Using sleep supplements and blue light glasses to improve sleep quality.
2. Bedtime Discipline
   Advocating for a consistent bedtime to ensure adequate rest.

   “A go-to-bed alarm is more effective than a wake-up alarm.”
   — [48:21]

The Role of Technology and Phone Usage

A critical part of the conversation addresses the pervasive influence of smartphones and the importance of digital detox.

“When you're paying more attention to your phone than to your life, you're not happy.”
— [38:09]

Brett shares his struggle with phone addiction and the discomfort of being disconnected, ultimately finding balance through intentional breaks.

Concluding Insights

As the episode winds down, both hosts reflect on the central theme: life inherently involves discomfort, and choosing to take risks over succumbing to regrets is essential for personal growth.

“It's the decision between risk and regret. Limit the amount of regrets, take more risk.”
— [42:49]

Brett reaffirms that persistence and consistency, rather than innate talent, are key drivers of success.

“I'm willing to go longer than most people, to be more consistent. And it’s available to everybody.”
— [51:05]

Final Thoughts

This episode serves as a powerful reminder that embracing discomfort through committed actions, authentic living, and prioritizing meaningful relationships leads to genuine happiness and personal success. Brett Eaton's insights, combined with Michael Chernow's effective hosting, offer invaluable lessons for listeners striving to cultivate positive habits and achieve their personal and professional goals.

Notable Quotes:

• “Confidence is belief in yourself, but I think a lot of people believe that it's belief in yourself that everything's gonna go right...”
  — Brett Eaton, [02:00]

• “Commit is the first circumstance. Commitment breeds confidence reps...”
  — Brett Eaton, [03:00]

• “I strongly disagree because... you pick up on that the moment you fake it till you make it.”
  — Brett Eaton, [07:50]

• “I'm my best self when I'm of service. I just am.”
  — Michael Chernow, [29:04]

• “It's the decision between risk and regret. Limit the amount of regrets, take more risk.”
  — Brett Eaton, [42:49]

This summary encapsulates the heart of the episode, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the key discussions and takeaways shared between Michael Chernow and Brett Eaton.