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Broadway Myron Metcalf back in the mix here on KSR on another Merry Monday. Yeah, wow. What a weekend. It's been a weekend, man, for all you Kentucky fans after everything that went down on Saturday. What a wild, what a wild game. Billy, I know you were. Did you do the post game show after that?
Myron Metcalf
What's up, Myron? I'm glad to be with you today. I did. We didn't end until 3am on Saturday night.
Billy
My goodness, man, I was thinking about that. I was like, what is that like for players too? You know, when you go, everyone talks about going west coast to east coast, but like, you know, if you're Kentucky, you probably feel like it's, you know, almost midnight or whatever it is your body does in a game like that. And, and I wondered, Billy, honestly, if that contributed to the start, right? Like, I wondered if, like you being in a situation with this three hour time difference and, you know, your body saying it's 10 o'clock really. And you know, you don't play games that start at 10 o'clock normally. So I did wonder if that had contributed to, you know, what, what happened at the start of the game. But then, you know, they're down 18, they come back and one of the craziest comebacks I've seen. But wow, lot to talk about today. Another Merry Monday. You all know how I do it. Meyer Metcalf, I want to hear about something that made you smile. What's the number, Billy? What number do they call?
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, let me, let me get through. You know, kind of the start of the show here. You can call the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line. That's 859-280-2287. You normally you can text the Avision Auto Glass text machine, but we don't have access to that. But we do want to remind you that the show is brought to you by the TJ Smith Law office. You call tj he'll make him pay. And you're right, Myron, we've got a lot to react to after that big, historic comeback win for the Cats on Saturday. And, you know, it was a. It was an eventful week playing Clemson and then Gonzaga.
Billy
Did I mess up your start of the show? Like, did you have a script you were supposed to read? And I just. I walked all over.
Myron Metcalf
No, no, no. We got. We got through it. No, we got through it. We just. Yeah, we just had to mention a couple sponsors off the top, and I'm here, really, to make sure we get the other ads in, so. But we're glad to have you back, Myron.
Billy
Yeah, you got to keep me in line, you know, Matt will tell you that. Like, you got to keep me. Like, let me know when we got to do certain things, because I'll just keep going. You know what I mean? So I appreciate that. Merry Monday calling. I want to hear about things that made you smile over the weekend. I'm sure it'd be a lot of Kentucky people excited about the game. Here was my thought. Right. Can I be honest about that?
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, be honest. Let's do it.
Billy
I thought, right, because I think that game is going to be the game you look at on Selection Sunday. Not because of what Gonzaga means for a resume. Right. Like, not because of that, but because I think you may look back at that game and go, that's when it became Mark Pope's team. Right? And now I'm not saying it wasn't before, Right. Mark Pope gets the job. Obviously, there are some people. There were some doubters. He quickly won a lot of people over with how he approached the job. Then he comes out in week one of the season, and he beats Duke in the Champions Classic. There were a whole lot of people who were going in that moment. Wow. Forget if we doubted him. We certainly believe now. But I felt like Saturday's game really put Mark Pope stamp on the program. Because when you're down 18 points and you're on the road and, yeah, it wasn't a, quote, true road game, but in Seattle, that is Gonzaga country, even though I was shocked by how many Kentucky fans had gone out there. But, you know, that was one of those moments where if Kentucky doesn't respond in the second half, win or lose, like, if they just get smacked in the face by Gonzaga and they lose by 15, 25 points. There are teams, Billy, who haven't recovered from those moments. Like, there are teams that you can look at in any season and go, oh, they got punched in the mouth and they never recovered. And then you just see them kind of limping through the season, and you realize that they never found a way to kind of Put that behind them. That could have been that for Kentucky. Like, that could have been the moment where you look back on Selection Sunday and you go, they faced real adversity. They didn't respond. And now that becomes a shadow over the program the rest of the way. I've seen it happen. It certainly can happen instead. And I don't know what Mark Pope said to this team in the locker room. I'd be curious. What do you think he said, Billy? What do you. What do you think he told the team in the locker room? Like, if you. If you were Mark Pope and you were given a speech at halftime, what would you have said to a team down at one point by 18 points against Gonzaga?
Myron Metcalf
I think Mark Pope probably said, we got him right where we want him. Myron, this is. This is a coat. Maybe, you know, he's. He talks about, like, collecting data. Collecting data in the first half to adjust in the second and. But my. They did it without a point guard. I mean, their point starting point guards not in the game. Their backup point guard goes down. They have to put Jackson Robinson at the point. I mean, I think you're exactly right. A seed line game when it comes to. When you. When you're putting the tournament together in March, I think a lot will. A lot of people will look back at this game against a top 10 Gonzaga team that was up 16 at the half. It's. It's incredible looking back.
Billy
Yeah. And the bracket is the bracket. Right. Like, for me, like, that'll be the tangible element of this. Right. Does this make them a one seed or whatever it is? There's a very tangible component of this. But just in terms of, like, who you are, like, that's one of those. We blame coaches for everything. And I sometimes can't stand it, if I'm being honest. Right. Because we want coaches to do it all in moments like that. And certainly coaches deserve blame, you know, if teams lose to a certain degree. But I also think there are moments where, like, players got to look at themselves in the mirror and say, who are we? And I really thought it was that moment for Kentucky. I mean, I tweeted that I felt like no matter what Mark Pope said, the Kentucky Wildcats had to sit in that locker room and they had to say, who are we? Like, what are we going to be? We're down 16 and a half, right? Down by as much as 18. You have. Your starting point guard is out. And defensively, you could see what happened without Lamont and the challenges that they had in that first half. With Ryan Nemhardt and how good he was. Then Kirk Kreese goes out, and now he's, you know, scheduled for surgery and out indefinitely. You are shorthanded, and you have been punched in the face by a Gonzaga team that scored 50 points in the first half. And I don't care what Mark Pope said. I mean, meaning, I don't think that was the most important element. Mark Pope could have given a Rocky Balboa speech. He could have given a Vince Lombardi speech. He could have given the greatest speech in the history of speeches, right? That, to me, was secondary to what Kentucky and the players in that locker room and the decision they were going to make in that moment. How will we respond right now? And I think that changes the team. To go from down that big at halftime on the road away from home, and then you claw back into that game, and you could just see not only the momentum changing, you could see Gonzaga, like, you know what I mean? It was like, you know, I watch a lot of boxing, Billy, right? And you can see how, like, sometimes early, you'll. You'll have a fighter who's getting the best of the other guy for four or five, six rounds, and then, like in round seven, all of a sudden, the guy who's losing comes back and starts throwing haymakers. And you could see the fight change that happened against Gonzaga. All of a sudden. You could see how rattled Gonzaga was. You could see how much pressure they suddenly felt because they went from a team that had scored 50 points in the first half and was up by 16 to, wait a minute, guys. We can't lose this lead. And anytime you can make an opponent feel like the goal is to preserve a lead and not win the game, you got them. And I think Kentucky did that because they're shorthanded. And I think Gonzaga is looking at them and going, why are you all still fighting? Why are you still throwing punches in the ninth and 10th round? I thought we had you. This should be over. You should quit. And I think that's why that half and whatever happened in that locker room will be impactful for the rest of the year for this team, Billy. Because Mark Pope can only do so much. But those guys made a decision that they weren't going to go out like that, and that says a lot about who they are. Like, to me on the court, people will say, this is a national championship caliber team. I agree. When you can beat Gonzaga in that situation, when you can beat Duke, you are on that level. Beyond that, this is clearly a team that Has a level of fight and heart that Mark Pope can't do anything about. That's not about Mark Pope. That's about those guys. And those guys decided, you know, Jackson and Andrew Car and all those dudes said, you know what, we're better than this. And I think that is the strongest message that that team has sent. That's bigger than Duke. I mean, symbolically, that's a big win over Duke. Obviously in the bracketology, that's a big win over Duke. But in terms of, like, what's going to happen the rest of the way, you just lost to Clemson and now here you are down 16 points. 18 is the largest deficit you have, and you come back. That's some real stuff, man. That can change a team's outlook. And I think that second half was that important for Kentucky. Billy.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, belief in yourself can be one of the strongest things out there. That's why I find myself on the biggest sports talk radio show in the Commonwealth with Myron Medcraft and ESPN radio host, because I believed in myself, Myron, to get to this point. And you saw that. That really takes shape in the eyes of these Kentucky players. But they did it a different way. You know, they shoot only 28% from 3.7of25. They bust out the 131 zone in the second half. That just confused Gonzaga just enough to allow the Cats to kind of find that belief and momentum. So it's. It's really encouraging because you looked at this week, you hoped that they could go one and one. It's actually a loss to Clemson and a big win versus Gonzaga. But, you know, I like what you're preaching about. These guys will be able to carry this comeback win on for the rest of the season to say, hey, we can come back in any scenario, despite when the odds are against us.
Billy
If you could pick anybody to give a half time speech in that situation, like if Mark Pope could, like, call somebody, who would you want to give the half time speech? Is there somebody?
Myron Metcalf
That's a great question.
Billy
Who would give the greatest halftime speech? Well, I will put that out to the callers, too. Who would be. I want to know about your merry Mondays. But also if you could pick anybody ever, who's your halftime speech? For me, I think, Billy, it'd have to be like, Morgan Freeman. You know what I mean?
Myron Metcalf
Oh, you want Morgan, the voice of God to come in and motivate you.
Billy
If Morgan. If Morgan Freeman walked in and my team is down like 16 and a half and he Gives one of those, like, Shawshank redemption speeches. Like, we're winning by 30, I feel like. So I think that would be my pick. I am curious what other people.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, I might go like. Yeah, I was thinking. I don't know why this is the first person I thought about, but, like, Matthew McConaughey could come in and, like, really fire me.
Billy
That'd be a lot, though. That'd be a lot, though. That'd be a lot.
Myron Metcalf
I mean, he wants.
Billy
He would do. Yeah, he do too much, I think.
Myron Metcalf
I want to buy a Buick. Every time I watch his commercial, I figure he'd get me fired up for the game. But I like Morgan Freeman a little better than that one.
Billy
I mean, Matthew McConaughey, like, the problem with Matthew McConaughey doing a halftime speech is he's gonna stay on the bench the whole game, and at one point, he's gonna try to check in. Like, it's gonna get weird with Matthew McConaughey. I mean. I mean, that's the check. Like, when I see him at these Texas football games, I'm like, he's ready to check in.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah.
Billy
Yeah. But I'm like, bro, you don't play. Like, why are you so close to the sideline in the action, man? Like, take. Take a deep breath. But Morgan Freeman, for me. Yeah, Matthew McConaughey. I get that. Whoever. Whatever they said, though, it was clearly change the vibe, man. In that locker room. We got. How many minutes we got left, man? What do we.
Myron Metcalf
We can do whatever you want. This is a soft break, so you can. You can break now. We could go another five minutes. It's. It's the next one. We'll have a hard out.
Billy
So I. I got another thing to say here. And we got callers. We'll get to callers here. Throughout the show. I did a big piece on Mark Pope. Flew around the country to get and talk to people and talk to him, and literally had to, like, chase him down, by the way. I went to, like, I was on my way to Kentucky, and they were like, no, he's at Peach Jam. I changed my flight, Billy. I go to Peach Jam in Georgia or South Carolina, then I come back to Lexington. It was a lot. But we had a chance to sit down with Mark Pope this summer, and, you know, we were talking about the job and everything. And, you know, one of the conversations I had with him, I said, you know, Mark, this team has obviously the veterans, the talent. You got that? But I said, do you have any dogs? You know what I mean, like, do you have any dudes? And I think that was the real question for Mark Pope coming into the season. It was the thing that I think he admitted he didn't know yet. You know what I mean? Like, he didn't know. And I think if there's one thing that Kentucky certainly had under Cal, it's like you always had one, two, three guys where you said, I don't know what the situation is going to be, but those guys are going to be as good, if not better, than anybody on the opposing team. Just from a raw talent perspective, right? We know that didn't always lead to wins, but I think that was the one question Mark Pope faced. When you're down in a moment like this, who. Who is it? Like, who's the guy you're going to turn to? You know, who are the players? You're going to say, all right, all right, Superman, you know, go into the phone booth, right? And by the way, Billy, on a side note, nobody saw Superman changing in that dog on phone booth. Are you kidding me, Billy? Are you serious? This man has on glasses and slacks and he's a trench coat. Whatever he's wearing, and a briefcase, and there's nobody in near that phone booth that sees him changing, Billy.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, I'm calling B.S. yeah.
Billy
You want me to believe that? Come on, man. That's not that a phone booth would be the worst way to try to conceal you being a superhero. But anyways, I digress. I don't know. I think that was the question. I don't think Mark Pope knew if he had any dogs. And I'll say this. I mean, Andrew Carr obviously played great. I don't know that this team has those kinds of dudes, right? Those takeover guys. But what I think they have and what I think they showed against Gonzaga is they can play team ball better than any team in the country. And what I think happened in the first half, and you saw this, Billy, when they got down, Kentucky started taking some bad shots. Shots where you're going, okay, these aren't shots that are coming out of what you do philosophically. These are shots coming out of desperation. I gotta climb back into the game. What you saw in the second half was how good this team is when they're moving the ball, when they're making the extra pass, when they're playing selfless basketball. That's what you saw. I don't know if this team has. Outside of maybe Andrew Carr, maybe some others who you go, okay, this guy's going to be first team all sec. I don't know what that'll look like when the awards are announced, but when they come together, I think what you saw in the second half is they can beat any team in America. And I think that's the difference between the first half against Gonzaga and the second half. You're down your point guard, you're down a second point guard, you're down by 18 points, 16 at the half. You're on the road, you're not at home. You just got punched in the mouth and you just gave up 50 points to Gonzaga in the first half. There's no way one dude's going to pull you out of that. But I think Kentucky learned, and I'm talking about the players and maybe Mark Pope did too, how good they can be when they're playing together. But I think you saw it, Clemson, I think you saw in the first half against Gonzaga. When that's not the flow of the game, it gets really challenging. And now without your point guards and now injuries to those key positions, you're going to have to continue to play that way to move forward in the schedule. We're going to take a break here, hopefully get some calls. Got a whole lot to talk about. I want to hear your perspective on the game. I want to hear about who you would give the halftime speech opportunity to if you were Mark Pope at halftime of that game. We will be back after this the.
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Billy
Welcome back on another Merry Monday with Myra Metcalf. No Matt Jones and company. I don't know. I don't know if they're flying. Are they? What are they? How are they getting back here?
Myron Metcalf
Oh, they're flying back. Yeah, they're flying. They. They're not driving the five, six day trip it would take to come back.
Billy
That's wild, man.
Myron Metcalf
Long way out there.
Billy
2000, 20, 24. Like we got, we got planes, man.
Myron Metcalf
It was cool. Mark Pope shouted them out in the post game press conference. They're like, see those guys over there? They drove all the way from Lexington for this game.
Billy
But he was probably a little bit like, they didn't have to, but they did. You know what I mean? So hey, you know what? I love a good road trip and I'm glad They enjoyed it. We got some calls here on this Merry Monday. Who's our first caller?
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, let's start with Ed on the line.
Billy
Ed, how you doing? What's something that made you happy? Hey, Ed, what's something that made you happy? Something that made you smile.
H
Hey, let me tell you, this team now is playing like the team that I grew up with. I mean, the winning games are supposed to win. And games where it's iffy, they find a way to win. I couldn't be more thrilled, more happy. What about that 131 zone, which Coach Cow would have never done? I mean, it's just a great time to be a wildcat. And as we get ready for the next victim to come up, another one will fight the dust. Go Cats. And that's all I got to say.
Billy
No, I appreciate the call, Ed. Yeah, Billy, I'm sure, like, that's sort of the vibe, right? It. And you know that changed from first half to second half, right? How are you feeling at halftime, Billy?
Myron Metcalf
I thought the game was over, Myron. I mean, and after a loss versus Clemson, you're out out Lamont Butler. I mean, you think that this team, you know, is when they face adversity, they hit a wall. But, you know, the really surprising thing is how different guys have responded. Jackson Robinson had one point against Duke. He was 1 for 8 shooting in the first half versus Gonzaga, and yet he comes in and plays that second half. You know, Andrew Carr scored, what, three points total versus Clemson, and then he's able to score 19 in the following game. Like, these guys, it doesn't have to be their night each night, but they can respond when needed. So that was really encouraging.
Billy
And just imagine, too, if you go from that first, from that Clemson loss, and imagine if you play that way in the first half and lose that game to Gonzaga, if you lose to Clemson and Gonzaga in that fashion and Gonzaga wins by 20 points or 15 points, that's a whole different conversation. Yeah, right. That's not even just about the next game. That's a conversation about, okay, who are these guys in the national picture? But instead, you bounce back, and now you got the whole country saying, I think that team can win a national championship. Who's the next caller?
Myron Metcalf
Tyler is on the line.
Billy
What's up, Tyler? How you doing, man? On this merry Monday, what's something that made you happy? Something that made you smile?
H
Ought to be honest with you. I smiled as soon as I realized that my Metcalf was gonna be hosting that.
Billy
I appreciate that. Okay.
H
And as Far as the, the game really and truly seeing how this team is made up, the makeup of this team, they're older, more experienced and mature. And I mean, really, it's not surprising what happened against Gonzaga. But yeah, I think this team has some grit and some heart to it that we haven't had in a long time. And I'm definitely happy.
Billy
Appreciate the call, Tyler. I think Tyler brings up a good point. Billy. I don't know that the same thing happens if you have 18 and 19 year olds in that locker room and you're down 16 and a half against Gonzaga. You know what I mean? I just don't know that you have the ability to regain your composure in that moment. But to have a bunch of veteran guys, I can see how these guys could believe in all the games they've been in throughout their careers. It's not over. It's hard to communicate that to young guys. Like, it's hard to tell a 17 or 18 year old. It's not over because the thing about freshmen coming into this level is so many of those dudes, Billy, went 30 and 1, 30 and 2, 30 and 3. Like some of those dudes come in and they've lost less than 10 games in their high school careers, you know what I mean? They don't even know what loss is. So to put them in a situation against Gonzaga and you're down 16 at halftime and you haven't really ever lost many games and you certainly haven't been down like that. Hard to get guys that young to respond. And I think you also saw the value of having experience across that team and how that helped when it came to bouncing back big time against Gonzaga. Experience was a significant factor. And I think what happened in that game. We'll be back for more. Merry Monday with Myra Metcalf. Black Jones is back, baby. We'll talk to you soon.
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Billy
Yeah. I was saying, have you been become a fan?
Myron Metcalf
Oh, I didn't hear that. I'm sorry. I. Absolutely. I took your advice and played it with the, with the lady friend at our dinner. It was great. It was this great ambiance.
Billy
Did it change things?
Myron Metcalf
I mean, it, it set the mood. There's no doubt about it.
Billy
Say something. Let me tell you something, though.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah.
Billy
What you just did, you can't go back to anybody else. Like, you can't introduce Al to the relationship and then just take it away, you know what I mean? So I would say two, three times a year, surprise it with some Al because you just, you know, you can't just bring it in and then all of a sudden it's just gone. It just. That's not how Al Green works. Okay, so keep a consistent Al Green theme. It'll help everything, trust me. Because Al never misses, man. Never misses.
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Billy
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Myron Metcalf
Right?
Billy
If you look at who's won national championships over the last 25 years, there hasn't been as much parody as people think when it comes to who can actually cut down the nets. But, but I do feel like this is a year that feels somewhat wide Open. I do, however, believe that of the, I don't know, eight to 15 teams, is that too much, Billy, in terms of who can win a national championship, maybe 15 is too high, but I do feel like Kentucky is sort of in that group of teams where you go, okay, Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee, Duke, I think. Is there teams that it feels like are putting themselves in a position where you can say maybe they'll end up separating themselves from the pack here in the next couple of months? Based on what we've seen so far? I mean, you have Kentucky with wins over Duke and obviously that come from behind win over Gonzaga. I don't think there's anyone with that resume so far this season, and just the SEC overall has been incredible. But I think we're going to have an amazing tournament, and I think the best of the best, once we get to sort of that Elite 8, I think it will be fascinating to kind of see who's there and to see who comes out on top. But if Kentucky can beat Gonzaga and can beat Duke at neutral sites, then that means they can play with anybody.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, we saw Missouri beat Kansas over the weekend. I mean, we could have eight, nine teams in the SEC that you could put into that conversation. You know, you're kind of touching on a point. I did want to ask you, Myron, and that's, you know, how does this Kentucky team compare to these other top national teams? I'm guessing you're looking at it and seeing that it's wide open. You know, it is still early in December, but you've traveled around a little bit. You're the college basketball reporter for espn. So, I mean, does this team have that type of talent?
Billy
Let me tell you how much I've traveled, man. I had a stretch last week where I was at 10 airports. I'm sorry, I was at seven airports in 10 days. It's a lot, man. So I've seen a lot. Seen a lot of teams, but, I mean, I think Kentucky can play with any of them. You know, I thought Auburn was maybe the best team in America. They go and play Duke and it's like, all right, well, Kentucky beat that Duke team. You know what I mean? So Kansas. There are a lot of questions about Kansas that were going into that game. I think Bill Selva is still trying to figure out his rotation, but that's a good team. I don't think they've come close to peaking yet. I think Iowa State is a very good team. Tennessee will be number one today, I believe, when the Associated Press rankings are announced. I'm not ready to completely dismiss Yukon, but I have a hard time putting them in that category after what they said, after what happened in Maui and then, yeah, I think Gonzaga is probably the team I would have said coming into that game is going to be the team that maybe is right there at number one. Number two, if they beat Kentucky, and then Kentucky does that. So, I mean, you can legitimately, legitimately say that Kentucky can play with any team in America. And, you know, can. I think if you told me the NCAA tournament was today, there wouldn't be a team in the field where you said, all right, that team can overwhelm them, because, again, I think they have a lot of depth, they have a lot of experience, they have resilience. And then clearly the talent showed as well. I don't want to make it seem like I don't think they're very talented. I do. I just think their strength is actually in their ability to come together, and they showed that during that run in the second half. Who. Who's our first? Our next caller, Bill.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. Let's go to Sean on the Clark's Pump and Shop phone line. What's up, Sean?
Billy
Hey, guys.
H
How y'all doing? I'm doing good, Myron. Thanks for being on this morning.
Billy
Yeah, man. What made you happy? What made you smile?
H
What made me happy is I got to eat dinner last night with all four of my children, and Kentucky. Gonzaga always makes me smile. Billy, if Matthew McConaughey is your motivational speaker and it makes you want to buy Buick, that's not good because he sells Lincoln's. And I believe my motivational halftime speaker would be. Would be. It would be Mark Pope because I don't know what he has said at halftime, but, man, it must be good because it's working for these cats, and I love this team, and I'm just looking forward to the rest of the season.
Billy
Who would be your halftime guy? Who would you bring in or halftime?
H
It would be Mark. It would be Mark Pope. Mark Pope. Because he's doing a great job. So that's who I want.
Billy
Yeah, that's true. I might rock you.
H
Appreciate you guys.
Myron Metcalf
Yeah, thank you, Sean.
Billy
Appreciate the call. I might bring in Rocky Balboa. Maybe Rocky, like Rocky.
Myron Metcalf
That's a high talent fee to get Sylvester.
Billy
But that would be. I mean, I'd be Sylvester as Rocky. I mean, that was.
Myron Metcalf
He's got to be in character, too.
Billy
Yes. Wasn't he always in character, though?
Myron Metcalf
Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of who he Is alone.
Billy
Yeah.
Myron Metcalf
You know, Our guy Ryan LeMond is known to give a good pep talk every now and then. Do you think he could rally the troops, or you think that would fall.
Billy
Flat in that situation?
Myron Metcalf
Yeah.
Billy
Nah, I don't know. I don't know, Ryan. Like, you're down 16 at half. Like, you. You gotta be like Rudy Levels in that moment. You know what I mean? That's not just a pep talk. That's like a. You gotta be epic. And I don't know if there are that many people who could have pulled that off, but I would love to know exactly what Mark Pope said to that team. What's. What's the net? Who's the next caller?
Myron Metcalf
All right, let's go to Clint.
Billy
Clint. Clint, you're on. Hey, what's up? Hey. What's. Something that made you happy? Something that made you smile?
I
I woke up this morning. That's always a blessing.
Billy
Ain't that beautiful? Isn't that enough, Clint? Like, we take that for granted. So many people did not get a chance to wake up. I think that's a great answer.
I
What do you got today? I think someone almost said to it, this team is really player driven. I think that's one of the biggest differences from past teams is this team has really taken on leadership roles where we didn't see those in the past teams. You know, with these young guys, they're really dependent on the coach more on more or less than on each other. So I think that's the biggest point that I've seen so far in this year.
Billy
Yeah. No, I appreciate the call. I mean, you see it in a moment like that, right? I mean, Jackson Robinson is point guard. Yeah. You're playing a really good Gonzaga team that I don't know if people remember, but they destroyed Baylor. Like, I mean, not. Not like they lopsided. Like, when they get out in front like that. Billy, Gonzaga destroys teams and how they shut the water off on that team. And there were a lot of people saying, oh, Gonzaga just missed threes. What are you talking about? Could you imagine, Billy, what the national conversation would have been like if Kentucky had been up by 16 and it lost that game? Like, if Kentucky had had a halftime lead of 16 points and had found a way to lose, do you think anybody in America would have said, well, Kentucky just missed shots? Absolutely not. People would have said that was a collapse. They would have given Gonzaga full credit, as they should. And if you didn't watch that game, then say so. But if you watched it, you saw the. It wasn't just the 131 zone. I know people are saying that that was big. It was that Mark Pope was switching from that one three one to man on the same possession. So you had guys who were coming down the court for Gonzaga ready to adjust to a one three one. And then just as they got comfortable, Mark Pope would switch to man. And because he has so much length on the floor, there were never a lot of mismatches. I mean, there were multiple possessions. If you watched that game where Andrew Carr, Jackson Robinson, these big long guys are on Ryan Nemhar and that's how they shut the faucet off. I mean, they shut the faucet off on Gonzaga and it changed the entire game. How much more time we got in this segment?
Myron Metcalf
We got time for one more call if you wanted to take one more and then we can hit the break here.
Billy
All right, let's go. Let's go to next call.
Myron Metcalf
All right, so let's go to Todd on the line.
Billy
Todd, how you doing on this? Merry Monday, man. What's something that made you happy? Something that made you smile?
I
What made me happy is I'm 49, I'm lucky enough to still have both of my parents alive and I got to spend yesterday with my 84 year old mother.
Billy
That's a beautiful thing, man. That's a beautiful thing. I love that answer. What else? What else? What'd you think of the game?
I
The game? I like the fact that the individual ball, they did the exact opposite against the Gonzaga and they came together as a team to overcome the deficit.
Billy
Yeah, no, I appreciate the call. I think everyone kind of saw that, Billy, that this was a team that didn't do it with one person saying I got it. That it was the whole team that said we got it. And I think that's how they have to play. You know, that's how they beat Duke at the end. You know, that was team defense. And that's how they won against Gonzaga, too.
Myron Metcalf
And another guy that struggled versus Clemson but played well versus Gonzaga was Brandon Garrison. There were times when Amari Williams really disappeared and he was a guy that I thought that played better defense. You know, Myron, I want to ask you, if you fracture your foot in game, would you still be able to contest the layup as Kirk Teresa did in the second half of that game? Because I tell you what, I'd be on the ground, I wouldn't be contesting.
Billy
All the way up. I don't know what that man is made of, man. To be able to do what he did in that heart. That's an unfortunate thing. You know, it's, they're saying I think three to six weeks, but you know, you hope it's, it's shorter. But man, to be able to come together like that after losing another point guard is just remarkable, man, just remarkable. We'll take a break here and we'll be back with more of your calls on this Merry Monday with Myron Metcalf.
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Billy
Oh, come on. Alright. I'm so in love with you. You know about this, Billy?
Myron Metcalf
Oh, yeah, now I do. Thanks to Myron.
Billy
Merry Mondays. Here we go. That's all right with me. Al just talks to you. That's what I love about Al, Billy. Like, Al is just talking to her. Like, he's not. These aren't even songs. Like, he's just sitting across from her and he's talking to her. Because, like, there was a time, Billy, when we had real love songs in music. And maybe I sound old, that's okay. But like, real love songs. And that's what I appreciate about the old school and Al Green and. And just everything that he did. But I was an old soul, Billy. I was like 9 years old and I had Al Green's greatest hits. I don't know if that's normal or not, but I did like a lot of kids listening, like sort of the newer music. I was all old school R B, man. So love to hear some Al Green on a merry Monday, man.
Myron Metcalf
You got into the catalog early, Myron. You got in there early.
Billy
It's changed your life, but it's changed your life too, right?
Myron Metcalf
It has. And you know, I'm looking forward to the podcast. You know, we don't get the music on the podcast anymore, so you'll just get a little acapella. Myron Metcalf right there.
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Billy
That was like Pippin the Jordan right there, man. That was.
Myron Metcalf
That was pretty good.
Billy
That was good. I mean, that, that they got to put that on your year end review. Like do. Do y'all do year end reviews over there?
Myron Metcalf
No. No, I haven't had a review in, in seven years here being here. So maybe that will change.
Billy
Just say that though, for it. Like if, you know, put that on your year in review because that, that was special. We'll take a few more calls here and I got a story on the other side of this next break. But who's our next call?
Myron Metcalf
All right, let's go to Tracy on the line.
Billy
Tracy, how you doing?
I
Hey, guys.
Billy
Tracy on this. Hey, man, I'm very Monday, what's something that made you happy? Something that made you smile?
I
Well, I'll be glad to tell you two things that made me happy, and I'll give you a halftime speaker as well, but.
Billy
Okay.
I
Merry Monday is so much better when you got M squared being the host.
Billy
Hey, man, you all have been so supportive of it. I appreciate it.
I
Well, you're on it. And come back every. Any and every time you can. I appreciate happy thing this weekend. It was nice to see us make free throws and call timeouts when we had them instead of just letting them roll.
Myron Metcalf
Yes.
Billy
Yeah. That's new, huh? Is that new?
I
Well, you know, I don't, I don't want to keep burying California. I mean, I think we should. We should move on. We ought to spend more energy talking about the new and the good and not whining about some things that bothered us in the past because that's not productive. So. Yeah, I don't want to do that. But whenever you've got a pocket full of timeouts and you don't use one, that's just frustrating. I mean, let's, let's be the, you know, let's be the adult in the room. Just saying, yeah, everything that made me smile. Thing that made me smile, I don't want to say it's because Duke won, but Louisville lost. So how about that.
Billy
Okay. Okay. And you had a halftime speech. Who's your halftime speech?
I
Oh, yeah. Halftime speech. I don't know how you can get past William Wallace. I mean, Mel Gibson, the William Wallace speech when you got a gut. Bunch of guys in kilts running out to fight guys in armor. Yeah, I mean, that's that. Go ahead, Braveheart.
Billy
No. Yeah. Brave. My high school coach showed that to us. My high school coach showed us that before a game. We lost by three touchdowns, though, so it didn't work out for us, but I do think it would work out for other people. I appreciate that call. Yeah, Billy, like, he showed us the Braveheart opening scene, and we were so hype. And then we lost big. We lost big.
Myron Metcalf
Well, you know, motivational speeches can't do it all for you out there, but it can certainly help it work for us.
Billy
So here's how I see the Mark Pope win on Saturday. Like Duke was. You introduce Mark Pope to the family, right? You bring Mark Pope home for the holidays. You're like, hey, there's somebody I'm seeing. You know, things have been going well, right? Yeah. First meeting, you know, and then your auntie. I don't know about your family. My family, auntie and uncle. Like, okay, who is this? Okay. Kind of grilling, you know, the person.
Myron Metcalf
A little bit feel mountain. Yeah.
Billy
Yeah. But it's good. It's a good time. You know, everyone's like, hey, you know, she was nice. He was nice. Cool. I think the Gonzaga game, Kentucky went Facebook official with Mark Pope. Instagram official. You know what I mean? Like, you. Until you post that first photo on social media, it's not official in this generation. Right? I think that's what it was like. It like, hey, everybody, this is my new person. We've been together for X number of months. And then you once. Because once you put it on the ground, Billy. It's official.
Myron Metcalf
It is Facebook official. She's here to stay.
Billy
Yeah. So Duke was. You brought Mark Pope home for the holidays. And I think Saturdays, whenever Gonzaga was. Okay. We don't. We don't post this on Instagram and let the whole world know that we are together. We'll be back after this break.
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Podcast Summary: KSR - Hour 1 (December 9, 2024)
Hosts: Myron Metcalf and Billy
Release Date: December 9, 2024
Duration: Approximately 49 minutes
The episode kicks off with Myron Metcalf and Billy diving straight into the aftermath of a thrilling weekend for Kentucky basketball fans. Myron sets the stage by reminiscing about the intense post-game show that extended until 3 AM, highlighting the significance of recent events for Kentucky's sports community.
Key Discussion Points:
The Comeback Story:
Myron and Billy passionately dissect Kentucky's remarkable turnaround from an 18-point deficit against a formidable Gonzaga team. They emphasize the mental and physical resilience demonstrated by the Wildcats, showcasing a blend of strategic adjustments and unwavering team spirit.
Mark Pope's Leadership:
A significant portion of the conversation centers on Coach Mark Pope's role in orchestrating the comeback. Myron speculates, "I think Mark Pope probably said, we got him right where we want him..." ([07:45]), highlighting Pope's tactical acumen and motivational prowess during halftime.
Team Dynamics and Experience:
Billy underscores the importance of team cohesion over individual prowess, stating, "What I think they have and what I think they showed against Gonzaga is they can play team ball better than any team in the country." ([05:32]). The hosts discuss how the experience and maturity of the players, especially in high-stakes moments, contributed to their success.
Strategic Adjustments:
The implementation of the 1-3-1 zone in the second half is analyzed as a pivotal move that confused Gonzaga and shifted the game's momentum. Myron notes, "They shoot only 28% from 3.7 of 25. They bust out the 131 zone in the second half." ([12:38]).
Notable Quote:
"If you could pick anybody to give a halftime speech in that situation, like if Mark Pope could, like, call somebody, who would you want to give the halftime speech?"
— Billy ([13:29])
Throughout the episode, Myron and Billy engage with callers who share their excitement and perspectives on Kentucky's performance.
Caller Ed ([23:48]):
Ed expresses his joy, saying, "This team now is playing like the team that I grew up with... What a great time to be a Wildcat."
Caller Tyler ([25:53]):
Tyler highlights the team's maturity, stating, "This team has some grit and some heart to it that we haven't had in a long time."
Caller Sean ([34:25]):
Sean praises Mark Pope's halftime leadership, "It would be Mark Pope because I don't know what he has said at halftime, but he's working for these cats."
Caller Clint ([36:15]):
Clint admires the team's player-driven approach, "This team is really player-driven... leadership roles where we didn't see those in past teams."
Caller Todd ([38:54]):
Todd shares a heartfelt moment, "What made me happy is I'm lucky enough to still have both of my parents alive and I got to spend yesterday with my 84-year-old mother."
Caller Tracy ([46:22]):
Tracy appreciates the show's atmosphere and the team's disciplined play, "It's nice to see us make free throws and call timeouts when we had them instead of just letting them roll."
Notable Quote:
"If you could pick anybody ever, who's your halftime speech? For me, I think, Billy, it'd have to be like, Morgan Freeman."
— Billy ([13:37])
Myron and Billy infuse humor and camaraderie into the discussion, particularly when reminiscing about motivational speeches and fictional scenarios.
Halftime Speech Fantasies:
The hosts fantasize about iconic figures delivering halftime speeches, with Billy humorously suggesting Morgan Freeman and Myron considering Matthew McConaughey:
"I would love to know exactly what Mark Pope said to that team."
— Billy ([07:45])
Al Green and Personal Anecdotes:
The conversation shifts to personal tastes in music, with Billy expressing his love for Al Green and Myron joining in on the appreciation. They joke about incorporating Al Green into their podcast and the challenges of maintaining musical themes.
Notable Quote:
"What you just did, you can't go back to anybody else. You can't introduce Al to the relationship and then just take it away."
— Billy ([28:34])
The hosts evaluate where Kentucky stands in the national landscape, considering their recent victories over Duke and Gonzaga.
Strengths of the Kentucky Team:
Billy asserts, "If Kentucky can beat Gonzaga and can beat Duke at neutral sites, then that means they can play with anybody."
SEC's Dominance:
Myron points out the overall strength of the Southeastern Conference (SEC), mentioning Missouri's recent win over Kansas and the competitiveness within the conference.
Notable Quote:
"Let’s be the adult in the room... To have a bunch of veteran guys, I can see how these guys could believe in all the games they've been in throughout their careers."
— Billy ([26:34])
As the episode nears its conclusion, Myron and Billy reflect on the implications of Kentucky's performance for the rest of the season and the upcoming NCAA tournament.
Potential for a National Championship Run:
They express optimism about Kentucky's chances, suggesting that their resilience and team-oriented play could position them as contenders for the national title.
Broadcasters' Commitments:
The hosts briefly touch upon logistical aspects, such as their travels and participation in other shows, adding a personal touch to the broadcast.
Notable Quote:
"If you could pick anybody to give a halftime speech in that situation, like if Mark Pope could, like, call somebody, who would you want to give the halftime speech?"
— Billy ([13:29])
The episode wraps up with Myron and Billy encouraging listeners to continue supporting the Kentucky Wildcats and expressing excitement for the upcoming games. Their genuine enthusiasm and in-depth analysis provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the team's current form and future prospects.
Notable Quote:
"These guys made a decision that they weren't going to go out like that, and that says a lot about who they are."
— Billy ([12:38])
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