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Doug Gottlieb
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Drew Franklin
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemon
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Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemon
NMLS consumer access.org welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is hour number two here on Kentucky Sports Radio. KS Bar is open and ready to rock here at on a rainy day on Tuesday. Unfortunately the rain is kind of nasty but that's the way it goes. 859-280-2287 tax machine is 772-774-5254. Guys, a lot of stuff going on around the world of Sports. The AJ DeBanta apparently his nil deal drew between 5 and 6 million dollars a year to go to BYU. That's I think that's a lot of money, don't you?
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Max Duffy
Yeah, the money has been the story around him for a while now. He. He's one of those kind of generational talents we don't see come through the high school ranks very often. His number was reported very early, is very high. And BYU is quick to get in the conversation and say they'll pay it. So I mean their coaches from the NBA. Coach Kevin Durant a little bit. Those are the. That's how he ended up in Utah, I guess.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Still, it's a lot of money.
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Evan
Ryan, don't you think that's a lot of money? Absolutely, I guess. You know, Pope probably mad when he was at byu. Where was his money when I was at byu? He leaves and they get all this nil money.
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Matt Jones
You know what? I'm fine with it got us him. If he'd had all the nil money, he may not have. He may not have come here. Right.
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Shannon
What's the minimum contract in the NBA at the moment? Because he's got to be earning what, two or three times. Some of the players in the NBA.
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Matt Jones
Oh, I think you wouldn't get five or six million dollars unless you were a top five to six pick.
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Shannon
I saw that because the other day when Michigan signed that quarterback for. It was supposedly $10 million or something. They had all the like graphic of people like quarterbacks in the NFL that weren't even making $10 million. It's crazy.
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Max Duffy
I'm just glad he's out there. I mean he is going to be very good in barring a run. Yeah. I mean Alabama, Kansas and Carolina, three teams will likely play over the course of. Well, I guess he's a one and done. But I mean at least he stays out west and away from us.
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Matt Jones
All right, let's talk about UK football for a second. 19 players have entered the TR transfer portal. That's a lot. It's the third most of any team in the. In the country. It's looking like that'll be. If that's not it, that'll be almost it. Here's the way I'm going to just kind of big picture look at it because I think a lot of people can get overwhelmed this time of year, especially in football, as to what's going on and who's what. I think if you asked the UK coaches and you put them on a lie detector and said who did you lose that you wanted to keep? I think there's no doubt they wanted to keep Dane Key. I think they were disappointed that Dane left. I think I can say with some confidence, they were a little surprised that he decided to transfer and not go to the draft. So I think that is a disappointment. There are some people who would like to have seen Keyshawn Silver stay, but then there's other people who are like, you know what? Production wasn't great, we can do the same and cost less money because he's going to go for a lot of money in the portal. And I think they were like, you know what, we can replace that and it'll be a lot cheaper. But those are two guys that I think if you asked them they'd have said would have been nice to have. I think of what I've seen the other 16 or 17 that went, I don't think they're going to cry necessarily about any of them. There was a couple guys making a significant amount of money. Chip train them, Anthony Brown, Stevens, we talked about. I don't think people realize how much of money he was getting in the portal. Barry and Brown, I think some of those guys I don't think they look at as a big loss now. They also have to knock it out of the park in the portal themselves. The problem is a lot of the guys on good teams are not going to be in the portal until after their bowl game or if they're in the playoffs until after the playoffs. So a lot of the guys you're hearing associated with now are on teams that were either not very good or mid major teams. I think there's one guy, Kentucky's almost certainly get the linebacker from Marshall and I think he'll play here next year and be pretty good. But it's going to be a wild circus. I expect Kentucky to take 15 guys, 10 to 15 guys in the portal. So Ryan, I mean this is going to be a long process and the reality is we're not going to really know if this team is very good maybe until they play next year. There's also the quarterback position with Gavin Wimsek going. Kentucky's going to go get somebody in the portal. I mean they just are. And are they going to get somebody to try to start? I don't know.
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Evan
What do you think it hurts things when you lose some of these guys in the transfer portal? Absolutely. I was kind of happy they were able to keep Cutter Wilcox, Patterson, you know, some of the younger players, Willie Rodriguez, you know, you got to re recruit those guys as well as go.
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Matt Jones
To recruit players coming in for Macklin. They got him back.
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Evan
That was a surprise for me actually.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I think that was a big surprise. I think they got Macklin because Barrion and Dane left and I think Macklin now thinks probably Drew, he'll be the number one guy next year.
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Max Duffy
He's the top guy now. I mean everybody knows they needed a culture change. They needed to overhaul the roster. You had to see 20 something guys go just to make room to go to the portal. They don't. They didn't have that many open spots when the season ended because the scholarships didn't go up like they thought it might have. They have the signing class that they just added last Wednesday. They needed 19 people to go and maybe even a few more so they can go shopping for immediate needs.
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Matt Jones
As far as coaching, I think you will, unless somebody comes and steals a guy, I don't think you're going to see another change. I think personally there should have been a couple changes. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. It's sort. I mean they're run. I mean here's the deal. Mark Stoops is putting his entire legacy at Kentucky on the line next year. He can't have another bad year if he has another bad year. If you're Mitch Barnhart, there comes a point. If he has another bad year, you can't do it again. As I've talked about many times, the future of college football starts the next year and you can't go into it with a coach that's coming off back to back three or four win season. He's putting his whole legacy on the line for next year. He's all in and it'll be up to him to see if he can make a better team with a tougher schedule, in my opinion.
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Shannon
Yeah, I'm not completely against just having some consistency at the coordinated positions and the coaching positions. I think after a while, you know, you can't just keep turning guys over and starting afresh. It's good to have some consistency. Maybe we see some improvement. Obviously we needed to get rid of a bunch of players because we went 4 and 8. The other thing that I would say for people that are following and tracking it, don't be disappointed if we go and get a player from Western Kentucky or Murray State or. Well, maybe Murray State might be disappointed just somewhere else because it doesn't really work. When we've seen when you go get Florida's backup, Tennessee's backup because they're getting rid of them for a reason, if they have any value, they would keep them. I think we kind of do need to go to those lower levels and get the stars in those places.
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Matt Jones
It's an interesting point you made. I mean, I think we've kind of all taken the view of, yeah, let's go get Ohio State's back. I mean, I was like this Ohio State's backup, Georgia's backup. It hasn't really worked, to be honest. Where we've done well was we took an Ole Miss starter. Remember the linebacker? We took a Mississippi State starter.
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Max Duffy
We took Vandy with Ray Davis starting.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, a Vandy starter. I kind of wonder if that's the way to go now, is actually go get guys that have performed, maybe not at this level, and just say, okay, let's do that here, rather than say, well, he didn't play at Ohio State, so maybe it'll work out here.
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Evan
I think there's some validity into that argument, to be honest. You know, Zion Childress, guy that they brought in, and Macklin was a starter at North Texas, and I think he still could be a really, really good player here. Just didn't get the targets all this, all season.
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Shannon
I mean, there's no better example than our head basketball coach right now. I know he's not a player, but when it first started, unpopular, maybe people like, how can this guy do it? We should have gone and got a big name. That's worked out pretty well.
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Matt Jones
I think it worked most of his players. I mean, we look at our roster right now. I mean, with the exception of Jackson Robinson, who was kind of well known at a kind of good school in byu. We took a bunch of dudes that none of y'all had seen play. Right. And it's. It's kind of worked out.
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Max Duffy
Yeah. And there's. It's different case by case. But just generally speaking, maybe these guys coming from North Texas that are taking a step up, they have a hunger where some of these guys we've taken from Tennessee, Florida, they're kind of double dipping on the Portal a little bit. They already got a big bag once they go to the Portal, trying to get that again. And I just wonder if the motivation is the same for each guy. Where you've got a kid still climbing and making the most out of his career, where another one's just bouncing around and getting money.
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Matt Jones
I will say some things that I had a long conversation on Friday where I got a sense of kind of where things are behind the scenes. I think they feel like they have the money to compete in the Portal this year. I'm not sure what changed, to be honest with you, about that. I'm not sure how all of a Sudden, that has become something that's not a worry. But I was told definitively we've got the resources to go get guys. That's good. I think there was. I think the staff has finally sort of come to the realization that they let the culture slip, and they're, I think, determined to fix it. Whether it'll work or not, I don't know. But I finally got a. I finally felt like I got a realization from them. Yeah, we let this thing slip. You know, I have invited Mark Stoops to come on the show. He says he will. I think he has to have, like, some sort of medical issue, like, not a serious one, but a medical procedure done this week. And so that I think it'll be after that. But he. I've, you know, I sort of said I think Mark should come on and I'm gonna. You know, I'm gonna be. I'm gonna ask the hard questions. And he said he would do that. I think that's good. And now, I mean, like, it's up to him. He's gonna have to win the fan base back. I think the fan base. He's lost a lot of them. We'll see what happens.
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Evan
Now, honestly, it's good. As a. As a fan sitting here, here, you say that. That they understand that maybe they did have some. Some slippage in the culture and the way they ran the program. You know, some self reflection. Sometimes the best. And so if they're able to identify.
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Matt Jones
We may look at the Mincy going and getting food at the concession stand as a big moment. I mean, we may look at that as a. I mean, you can't argue that, right? Like, there's, like, there's no arguing around. Well, you know, when you hear a story behind the scenes, Drew, somebody can just go, ah, that's not exactly true. We have a video of a player in a uniform going and getting food during a game. Ain't much. You can argue about that.
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Max Duffy
Not at all. And that went very, very, very viral. Unfortunately for Stoops, though, I mean, a good interview would help, but overall, I don't know what he can do to win it back till they play football.
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Matt Jones
I agree.
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Max Duffy
Because we all thought they had a great portal class last year. Now, with Chip, that was injury. Brock got banged up, but it just didn't turn out to be what anyone thought it was on paper. So even if they go out and get some big names, is anyone going to be that enthusiastic until they actually see what it looks like?
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Matt Jones
Probably not.
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Shannon
Two things. Well, first, I've loved that they've gone, hey, we need to go out and actually assess these guys character before we bring them in rather than just going most talented. Second thing, I hadn't heard about that, Matt. So, Mark, best of luck with the hair transplant surgery going on in Turkey. It'll be a long flight to Turkey, but I hope it goes well.
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Max Duffy
That was Max.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that was Max Duffy. And I don't think that's the procedure. People will think that's.
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Evan
Can I ask you. I'm asking one more question.
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Matt Jones
People will think you're being serious about that, but go ahead.
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Evan
Were you surprised that they are not going to make coaching changes?
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Matt Jones
I mean, I don't know about surprise. I think it's a mistake. I mean, I think, you know, I think it's a hard sell. I don't know how you look at these fans and say, we're running it back. Everybody ready? You know, I think that's hard, but like, it's their sale to make, not mine. You know, there is a sense, I remember I said this about Cal. There's a sense where if you're going to go down, you should go down with the dudes you believe. But then if you go down, it's on you. Right? Like, if they don't perform, guess what? You will pay the price. And so we'll find out next year. I'm. I will say this. I'm fine with Stoops coming back. I think it was the only choice UK had. I get a sense that there's some renewed energy from him. That's good.
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Evan
That's good to hear.
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Matt Jones
But if we have another year like next year, if we have another year next year like we had last year, we're going to have to make a change because the 2025, 2026 offseason. So after next year, college sports as we know it will change. And if we're not in a position to amp that up, we got to go in a different direction or else we'll get behind and we might never come back. And so I'm okay with another year. But, you know, save this clip if you want. Can't have another year like that. If we do, then we're gonna have to do something else, which is the way I look at. I also look at Pelican technology. Oh, yeah?
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Matt Jones
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Matt Jones
Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. One person writes on text machine. Matt, we're thinking about giving up our tickets next year. Do you think we should? Well, I mean, that's up to you. I don't know what the money means to you and your family, but assuming you can afford it financially, I would do it. You'll wish you did. I mean, we got Texas coming in, we got Tennessee coming in, we got Florida coming in, got Ole Miss coming in. That's a good schedule. So I would say keep them, but then again, I don't know what these tickets mean to your family financially, so that might be different.
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Max Duffy
During the Louisville game, I went out at halftime when everybody was leaving. I was interviewing them and a lot of season ticket holders were livid with how things have gone. But then they added the caveat. I've had these tickets for 30 years. I can't just split up with them. My dad had them, my grandfather, you know, things like that. So there's a lot of tradition involved for Kentucky football fans.
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Shannon
Could I potentially throw out one bit of advice for the Kentucky football staff? Is that fine.
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Matt Jones
If you want. If you would like to. Yeah.
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Shannon
There's a witchcraft place that has an amazing track record.
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Evan
It does go there.
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Shannon
One and oh, buy the candle. Buy the soap. It touched Ryan's head.
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Matt Jones
Can I tell you another great Ryan moment on the trip? You know, we bought two things. We bought a candle and we bought incense. We were going to save the incense for a future thing we needed to cast away. Ryan kept it in his coat pocket, which was nice because we didn't know when we were going to use it, but we were about to go out to eat or something like that.
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Evan
Walking for lunch.
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Matt Jones
We're going to walk to lunch and Ryan had it in his pocket. And he said, I don't want to take this as if he would be arrested for having incense on him. And I said, well, hey, just set it right there on the step, and we'll get it when we come back. And for reasons that only Ryan Lemon knows, he took the incense and just put it in a pool of water to where it. To where it will never work, ever. And so I'll just note it was a stupid thing to buy, but it was $15. You just took $15amount and just threw it away. So thank you.
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Evan
Yeah. It was a flower bed, and the water was still. I didn't realize it was water till I touched it, and then it was too late when I put it in there.
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Matt Jones
So he saw the water, Shannon. Yeah, but as with everything, he doesn't believe what it is until he touches it. And at that point, he had already thrown the inside sense into the wall.
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Ryan Lemon
So that he knew what he was doing first of all. So that means only half the curse has been broken.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I think we got the basketball curse.
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Ryan Lemon
He said, you gotta do both of them.
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Matt Jones
So, yeah, I think Mark Stoops, you know, maybe go to the Witchcraft place there in Denver and see what you could do. Who's up next?
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Ryan Lemon
Let's go to Don.
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Matt Jones
Don, how are you, Don? Hey.
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I
I'm fine, guys. Appreciate you taking the call. Happy holidays.
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Matt Jones
Merry Christmas. Happy holidays to you.
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I
Yeah, I was just curious about the getting back to the basketball schedule again. Did Coach Pope have any input on this year's schedule, or was that.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, none. He might have helped. Yeah, I don't think the schedule would have been done there. He might have helped with one or two of the stinky team games, but the major games were already situated, and honestly, most of the major games for next year are already situated, too. I think you'll start. Excuse me. To see Pope's imprint on the schedule the year after that.
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I
Copy that. Appreciate it, guys.
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Matt Jones
Appreciate it. I think you'll see, like, for instance. Excuse me. I think you'll see Pope games. We still got to finish the Gonzaga series. We start Indiana. You'll see Pope games after that.
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Shannon
Yeah.
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Evan
And then, you know, he's already talked about maybe trying to look at getting out of the CBS Classic. I think that'd be one thing to do where maybe he could schedule a.
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Matt Jones
Home and home after next year and they can just not renew it.
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Evan
Yeah, maybe I. I look for him to pick up a home and home series with a power team.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. I mean, next year, I believe Drew will play ucla. We were talking about this. I think our schedule next year is Champions Classic vs is it Kansas or Michigan State?
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Max Duffy
Next year in the Champions Classic would be Michigan State.
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Matt Jones
I don't remember who we played last year.
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Max Duffy
We played Duke and last year we played. No, we played Kansas the year before because we played Hunter Dickinson.
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Matt Jones
Right, right. So that's right. So we would play Michigan State in the Champions Classic. We play UCLA in Vegas. So I think we play Vegas next year and then we will play Gonzaga in Nashville and I think we play Indiana in Rupp. I think that's the four. Those are the four games. And then Louisville at Louisville. So that's five power games. If you throw in the ACC SEC Challenge, I think that's six. We get a home game in that next year. So if you're looking at the schedule next year, you're looking at Vegas against ucla, Gonzaga in Nashville. Champions Classic, I believe, is in New York in Madison Square Garden. And then you've got ACC Challenge here, Louisville on the road and then Indiana at home.
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Max Duffy
Answer the caller's question, Wiley.
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Matt Jones
That's a heck of a schedule. That's a great. We played five power games this year. That's six next year.
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Max Duffy
Pope had a lot of things that were already in place, but one of the first things he did was schedule that Western Kentucky game. So that's one, I think.
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Matt Jones
Okay, that's one.
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Max Duffy
I think we all know that would have been scheduled before anyway because Cal didn't like those games. But that is one thing Pope added to the schedule that he was able to do.
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Matt Jones
I also have heard that we will at some point play byu. I was going to say, I don't know. It may not be. Probably won't be next year. But I would venture to say when the Gonzaga series ends, you might see a BYU game where we go to Salt Lake one year and they come here.
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Evan
When does the St. John's game happen?
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Matt Jones
It sounded like Pitino thinks that won't happen. And again, I think the reason is I think we can't play St. John's because of the Indiana series. You know, everybody wants a marquee home game. This is why I didn't want to add Indiana. It sort of locks you in to playing Indiana. Like that can be your only game because they really only have time on the schedule for one true home and home. And I think we've chosen it for it to be Indiana, even though that's not who I would have chosen. But I think that's what we're going.
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Max Duffy
To get now that it's here, Indiana better get better at basketball. This can be a good rivalry if they will just stop sucking.
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Matt Jones
Well, they have been good in 25.
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Max Duffy
Years which is why State I'd be happy.
- [28:36]
Matt Jones
That's why I didn't want to do them. I mean like I'd rather do one of these other teams, you know. The good thing is the ACC challenge will help us play Duke and Carolina some. Kansas is in the champions classic, so you get them. But I'd love to play a Yukon. Right. To go play a team like that or Villanova. I mean the fact that we're going to get locked into Indiana, but I know for a lot of people it matters. It doesn't matter for me, Ryan, but like for you it does. So that's fine.
- [29:03]
Evan
That was the you old heads, old heads. That was the game of the year for a long time. I like this Gonzaga series that we've got going on right now. You know we're playing a high profile team.
- [29:12]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I think that'll end after next year. But we are going to play in Nashville in a regular. When's the last time we've had a regular season game? Nashville? It's been probably a long time.
- [29:19]
Evan
That's gonna be awesome.
- [29:20]
Max Duffy
Sounds like a cowboy hat trip.
- [29:22]
Matt Jones
Oh, the cowboy hat will definitely be on for that one. Trying to figure out the first time to bring it out.
- [29:26]
Shannon
When did I get here?
- [29:28]
Max Duffy
I'm waiting. I was a little disappointed. It wasn't. I was expected Abby to hand them to me when I got home but it hadn't delivered yet.
- [29:33]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean I was ready to maybe wear it for the Colgate game tomorrow for the show today, but not. We don't have it yet. We'll take a break, become right back. Ksr TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make them pay.
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Ryan Lemon
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Here we go, cowboy baby. 859-280-2287. If it comes in Colgate, it's kind of team. You do it like Etsy, breakout, toothpaste, good academic school, Donald Foil. A lot of reasons to break. Break it out for that one.
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Max Duffy
Could be a cowboy hat game. I could use some Colgate after that road trip. I still haven't really gotten back to where I need to be.
- [30:10]
Matt Jones
Did anybody watch the Simpsons broadcast last night?
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Ryan Lemon
Watch a lot?
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Evan
A little bit of it.
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Max Duffy
Gave it a chance.
- [30:16]
Matt Jones
I watched a little bit. You didn't like it?
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Max Duffy
Well, you know I live in a Cowboys household. I had a big parlay going. I just needed the real broadcast. I gave it a minute or two.
- [30:25]
Matt Jones
Mina contest.
- [30:26]
Max Duffy
I would go to it and watch.
- [30:27]
Matt Jones
How I love that. I mean, it was a couple minutes behind the real broadcast. So it was clear that, like, they would know a big play's coming and then they would check the Simpsons characters in. So if you. If you watched when mil house or when Bart or Homer came in, you knew something big was about to happen. I mean, I may be a child, but when Homer threw the touchdown, I loved it. Bart with a little out route to Ralph. To Ralph. How about Ralph Wiggum? Who knew he could tap his toes in bounds like that? I enjoyed that.
- [30:59]
Shannon
Ralph was the big surprise for me. I don't think anyone saw that one coming. You know, you could see Homer as a Ben Roethlisberger, and Bart obviously has some elusiveness about him. But Ralph, what? Who would have thought?
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Max Duffy
My favorite part was how they captured that stupid block punt in the fumble. With all that chaos in the play, they still managed to make it. You know, you could follow the ball and look like it. With the Simpsons.
- [31:17]
Matt Jones
I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good little. Good little side thing. And I like the Simpsons. It's amazing to me that that show was still on the air 37 years after it debuted.
- [31:27]
Evan
Ryan I. After the Jamar Chase touching out the end, I flipped over to see how they were going to do it, and it was Lisa. Lisa was the one that ended up being Jamar chase and scorn getting the touchdown.
- [31:37]
Matt Jones
And by the way, Lisa, if you. A lot of you wrote noted the same problem I have with the sticks. Did you hear Lisa say it's 2024 and we have all this technology. Why do we still have two dudes with a stick and a chain? I was like, thank you, Lisa. I've been saying that for years. Why do we still do it this way?
- [31:56]
Shannon
I got to get Lisa on the pregame post game show for football from now on. That'd be great.
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Max Duffy
I don't know the Simpsons characters very well.
- [32:02]
Matt Jones
Who.
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Max Duffy
Who is the Phil goal kicker? I enjoyed watching that one, too. When Aubrey kicked one for Dallas.
- [32:08]
Shannon
Barney Gumbel. I'm not sure. I didn't see it.
- [32:10]
Matt Jones
Who looks neat?
- [32:11]
Max Duffy
But I didn't know. I don't know the character.
- [32:12]
Matt Jones
I'd have to look it up. I don't know. Who's up next?
- [32:15]
Ryan Lemon
David.
- [32:15]
Matt Jones
David. How are you, David? It was Crusty the clown, first of all. It was crusty the clown. There you go.
- [32:22]
Evan
David knew.
- [32:23]
Matt Jones
David knew. So shut Up, Max. Go ahead, David. Yeah, well, first of all, I was. I was going to ask you this about the game on center. When did you first realize that there's this feeling that they might come back? Did you feel that during the first half? I felt it when Andy Katz was talking my ear off about politics. That was the moment. I was like, oh, we're only down seven. We're only down five. And I was like, if Andy will stop asking me about this, I think we might actually come back and win. But I have to tell you, in the first half, I was. I mean, I'll be honest. I thought we were going to be embarrassed. I mean, it felt like we were. I was watching two teams of different levels. But then in the second half, I think. I think there was a. When. When they called timeout, we had cut it to like five or six and they called time out. That was the first time I let myself believe. Hey, wait a minute. Maybe we'll. Maybe we'll come back. Yeah, I. I had this. I don't know why, but I still had this feeling that we might. If I said it this. If we cut it to at least 12 in the second half, we might have a chance. And I have a question for all.
- [33:27]
Shannon
Three of you guys.
- [33:29]
Matt Jones
It's that time of the year again, so I gotta ask you, what is your favorite Christmas movies? Favorite Christmas movie. I appreciate the call. We usually get this. Yours is like elf. Elf.
- [33:40]
Evan
It starts and ends with elf.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, yours is usually elf. That's your kind of thing. I'm partial to Christmas vacation. I just enjoy the whole vibe of it, and it makes me laugh every year, so that's probably mine. I like Bad Santa, too. Although that's more. Not bad Santa too, just bad Santa as well. I think that one's really funny.
- [34:06]
Shannon
Both the bad Santas are really good. Where I go down in South Georgia, it's not really a Christmas movie for sure, but we watch Lord the Rings extended version just for a whole day. So that's normally my Christmas story.
- [34:18]
Matt Jones
Yeah, that's just a movie.
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Max Duffy
There's no movie, including Forrest Gump, that I have seen more than Christmas Vacation. There have been years. We're starting December 1st. I'll watch it 25 times. I'll turn it on every single day. I can almost quote it from start to finish. It is by far my favorite.
- [34:31]
Matt Jones
I'm a. I'm a big Christmas vacation guy. One more I want to know, because with David's question. I appreciate the call, David, about believing at halftime. Maybe this is why? Mario was, like, being so optimistic to me after the post game show. I didn't realize until Sunday that I'd become an object of debate on Facebook about my negativity about basketball. I had no idea why. And part of it was Jack Pilgrim had written a post on ksr, the website, which again, he's allowed to write, by the way. I don't, I don't run that website anymore. I feel like after four years people would know that. But they still, whatever anyone posts, people yell at me about. But then my tweets at halftime, they were like, you're being too negative. And all I was saying is that we were stinking in the first half, which we were.
- [35:28]
Evan
We did.
- [35:29]
Matt Jones
And I was like, what do you people. And then that led to a long series of posts I saw where people were saying they were going to boycott KSR because we're too negative, while it also at the same time saying they hadn't listened in eight years. And I was like, well, first of all, you're already boycotting, it sounds like. And secondly, how would you know if you didn't listen? But we, as a fan base, this is going to be my helpful hint as a fan base, we got to stop policing how other people are fans like this. Stop this notion of you're too negative, you're too positive, you're this, you're that. We are all want the team to win, right? And if we want the team to win, some of us do it. Like I said next to Mario, in that game, Mario is universally positive. When we're down 18, he was like, we just need a three here. It'll be fine. Right? Six straight threes. Six straight threes. And we got it. We're. We're in this. We got it. He hit me in the stomach like 10 times going, here we go, here we go. We got this. You. Well, I don't know if any of you are relentlessly negative, but I have a couple friends that are relentlessly negative. Like, we got no chance. I'm like, we're up 20. We got no chance. They're going to come back. I kind of lean towards positivity, but, like, you don't have to say the whole game, we're awesome. This 18 point lead, it's just a fluke. It's fine. You know, even though we've never come back from this deficit in the history of our program, of course we're going to do it this time. Like it's okay for people to have different opinions. This idea of this group think we had it last year with Cal. This notion that you could not be critical of Cal or you didn't love Kentucky. Now you won't find one person to take up for California. Now we're doing the same thing. I will remind people of what Mark Pope said to me in his office. He looked at me right in the eye and he said, if we lose, I want you to rip me. He goes, because the day you stop ripping me, this is not Kentucky basketball. That was his words. I'm sure he would say. He said that if Mark Pope feels like that, then you guys can chill out if people are being a little negative. And, Ryan, I don't even think I'm negative. I love this team.
- [37:54]
Evan
We all have eyes. We saw what was going on in the first half. It looked bad, looked like there was no coming back. But I love that quote from Pope, you know, because that's what makes Kentucky basketball special. Because we do care about you.
- [38:07]
Matt Jones
Want to see what happens if you stop caring? Go look at the Louisville fan base. Louisville used to have the third or fourth best college basketball fan base in the country, and Pat Kelsey can't even get him to care. And he's trying. To his credit, he's trying. And they just won't care. They've hit apathy. We can't ever get to that point, Max.
- [38:32]
Shannon
No, we can't. I mean, and here's the thing for the fans, something about Matt. He's an emotional guy. He's an emotional guy. And sometimes it's positive, sometimes it's negative. But it's emotions what makes the show great. He's trying to take it to the next level.
- [38:43]
Evan
He brings these emotions to the show.
- [38:45]
Matt Jones
To the. Bring it to the show.
- [38:46]
Evan
Yeah.
- [38:47]
Max Duffy
I didn't go back and read your tweets during the first half, but I assume most people weren't feeling great in the first half. Really live tweeting that this isn't going well. They were down by 16.
- [38:56]
Matt Jones
You could just.
- [38:57]
Max Duffy
What are you supposed to say?
- [38:58]
Matt Jones
Yeah, you could just choose not to tweet anything, which maybe that's the best thing to do. Alexi, why don't I go back and I'm just going to read you. These are the tweets from the first plat.
- [39:07]
Evan
Okay.
- [39:09]
Matt Jones
Pace of play is exactly what Kentucky wants. Going to be hard for UK to stop the zag offense. Got to finish the easy layup.
- [39:17]
Evan
So negatives.
- [39:18]
Max Duffy
A ton of layups.
- [39:22]
Matt Jones
The center initiated dribbling from the top of the key will be the death of me. This seasonal tweet Kentucky is getting absolutely torched defensively and manhandled at the rim.
- [39:34]
Evan
But they were, they were.
- [39:36]
Matt Jones
They called a technical for that.
- [39:38]
Shannon
Emotional.
- [39:40]
Evan
Very emotional.
- [39:41]
Matt Jones
When Gonzaga gets Kerr and Amari Williams in a pick and roll, it's death for uk.
- [39:46]
Shannon
A lot of talk about death. That's emotions.
- [39:48]
Matt Jones
But it was.
- [39:49]
Max Duffy
Yeah, it sounds like you're single handedly trying to tear down the program.
- [39:52]
Matt Jones
I said Ike Ek killed Kentucky's bigs last year in Rup and he's doing it again this year.
- [39:58]
Evan
He had 18 points in the first half.
- [40:00]
Matt Jones
Had 18 points in the first half and then the last one was just like Clemson. Gonzaga is extending their defense beyond the three point line and dares UK to beat them off the dribble. We just don't have guys who can go by their man and make them pay. By the way, I'll note in the post game press conference, Mark Pope said that exact same thing and he said we countered that by doing backdoor cuts, which is exactly what they did.
- [40:22]
Max Duffy
So those are your negative tweets.
- [40:23]
Matt Jones
Those were the ones that apparently made people say that I'm not a fan of UK basketball.
- [40:28]
Shannon
Wow. And then you go to Ryan's and it says, uk's the greatest team ever. UK's the worst team ever. UK's the greatest team ever. UK's the worst. It's just inconsistent tweet after inconsistent tweet. Yeah, couldn't get anything going.
- [40:40]
Evan
I gotta work on that.
- [40:41]
Matt Jones
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Ryan Lemon
Yeah. Well, if it's true, it applies to you, the endorser.
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- [41:28]
Max Duffy
I have a confession. I added that they wanted some KSR jokes in the copy and I'm the one that did that.
- [41:34]
Matt Jones
You added.
- [41:34]
Shannon
You're the funny guy. You're the funny guy.
- [41:36]
Matt Jones
You added that. I don't have a screwdriver.
- [41:38]
Max Duffy
Yep. I have three different versions of that read that all include a joke.
- [41:43]
Matt Jones
First of all, how do you know I don't have a screwdriver?
- [41:45]
Evan
We've been around you for 20 years. Yeah, I have a screw.
- [41:48]
Ryan Lemon
There are two different kind of screwdriver. Do you have.
- [41:50]
Matt Jones
Well, there are two different kinds.
- [41:51]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [41:51]
Matt Jones
There's a flat screwdriver and a Phillips screwdriver.
- [41:55]
Ryan Lemon
Learning.
- [41:56]
Max Duffy
I think the other version says something about your pictures leaning up against.
- [41:59]
Matt Jones
Okay, that part's true. But I have.
- [42:02]
Evan
Where is your screwdriver?
- [42:03]
Matt Jones
I don't. I. Look, I. I don't tell you. I don't want people coming to my house looking for my screwdriver. I'm not going to tell you exactly where it is.
- [42:09]
Max Duffy
Sorry about that.
- [42:10]
Matt Jones
We'll take a break. Be right back.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. This is the song that was singing they were singing at the Pendleton, Oregon karaoke that we had. There was a guy up there who got up and sang, who called himself the Soul Penetrator. He was awful. Real quick. The Pendleton, Oregon Cadillac Jacks Bar Max how would you, if you were to describe to people Cadillac Jackson, Pendleton, Oregon what would you say if you were.
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Shannon
Planning a bachelor or bachelorette party in the next six to 12 months? Yeah, you could go to Nashville you could go to New York, you could go to Bourbon Street. Pendleton's the place to be. I'll put it the nicest way I can possibly put it. A lot of inner beauty. A lot of beautiful people that were really. Yeah, just a lot of.
- [47:04]
Matt Jones
No, I will tell you what you said. You said it was the ugliest collective group of people you've ever seen in one place.
- [47:11]
Shannon
You could literally count the combined number of teeth on the people in there. On one hand there was a lot going on. There was a hyena that looked like a dog.
- [47:19]
Matt Jones
Somebody brought in a hyena.
- [47:21]
Shannon
There was a lady chugging drinks but then was on a oxygen mask.
- [47:25]
Matt Jones
There's a woman that walked in with an oxygen machine, had just walked in the door and said give me a double whiskey.
- [47:31]
Shannon
Soul Penetrator was singing his lungs out.
- [47:34]
Matt Jones
Mario challenged a 75 year old woman in a sweatsuit to a game of pool and she turned him down. She basically didn't think he was good enough. She was there playing pool. She was 75 years old, had on a sweatsuit and had her own pool glove. You know that you like. She had her own pool glove. On a Friday night at 9:00 in.
- [47:56]
Shannon
Oregon, the sheriff turned up.
- [47:58]
Matt Jones
A sheriff turned up. He brought seven college age kids and him not sure what was happening there but he, he, he was, he was there. The worst country, the worst karaoke singer I've ever heard in my life who sang some of you may know the net song Paint me a Birmingham by Tracy Lawrence. He sang that. He was a good Shannon. Two seconds behind the beat, right?
- [48:21]
Ryan Lemon
He was. But Soul Penetrator came in and made good on the whole situation and then.
- [48:25]
Matt Jones
That guy saying this. Unbelievable. I have some news here, Shannon. I guess we have to get right to comment on it.
- [48:30]
Ryan Lemon
Breaking news or just news?
- [48:31]
Matt Jones
No, this is like just a scuttlebutt. Rivals.com is reporting. This is, this is their national recruiting rival. Okay, okay. He writes Dane Key led Kentucky with 47 receptions for 715 yards. Louisville, Nebraska, Georgia and South Carolina are the most involved in his recruitment. Key is planning to visit Louisville early next week as there continue to be rumors that Vince Merrow could join the staff to Louisville as well. That's from the national Rivals recruiting rider. I'm skeptical about the Vince Merrow part of that. Not saying it's impossible, but skeptical. But what about the Dane Key part of that? He wouldn't go to Louisville, would he?
- [49:14]
Evan
I honestly have no idea because they were going to set up some visits. I think Yesterday we were flying back. So I've not talked to anybody connected, Dante, Nicole, Dane, nobody. So I have. I have no clue.
- [49:25]
Matt Jones
Are you lying to us?
- [49:26]
Evan
No, I'm telling you the truth.
- [49:27]
Matt Jones
Because you lied to us that one day I said you looked us right in our eyes. What was the question to us? I don't remember. But you didn't answer it truthfully.
- [49:34]
Max Duffy
I think you're pretty inconsistent with your answer.
- [49:37]
Matt Jones
I would say. I'm not saying he won't go to Louisville, but from my. I won't speak for Ryan. I would think Georgia is where I would see. I mean, like you look at that list, Nebraska, his wide receivers coach is there. But I'm not sure that relationship is as close as people just assume. South Carolina is where he almost went last time. But the guy that recruited him is not there anymore. Right, Ryan?
- [50:02]
Evan
Correct.
- [50:03]
Matt Jones
So he's not there. So that. I think people are throwing that in and may not know. Georgia, I mean, Dane has basically said he wants to play for a team that can win a title. Louisville's not going to win a title. So Georgia Drew Seems to me that it would make the most sense.
- [50:20]
Max Duffy
Yeah. Georgia's receiver room hadn't been good recently by their standards. I don't know what they have going into next year, but I assume he has a great opportunity if that's where he would. He would pick. We've mentioned it's got the girlfriend angle there. That would seem to be a heavy favorite. Just guessing with what he has in front of him.
- [50:35]
Matt Jones
I will say though, if you were to draw up on a sheet of paper and say how. What is the worst that could happen for Mark Stoops in the next week. Dane Key and Vince Merrill going to Louisville would be pretty high on that list. That would be a back breaker for a guy for a way you're trying to turn this around.
- [50:53]
Shannon
He was our best player this year. If he goes to Louisville of all teams, I mean, I might shed a tear. That would be terrible.
- [51:00]
Matt Jones
That would be terrible. And also on a personal level, that would suck for this guy and I hope that doesn't happen. Who's up next?
- [51:06]
Ryan Lemon
Chuck.
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Matt Jones
Chuck. Go ahead, Chuck.
- [51:09]
I
Matt. Hey, thanks for having me. Chuck from Nebraska. I was gonna drive two hours one way to see you guys in Kearney, but I had. I had work day and it just didn't work out. Sorry.
- [51:24]
Matt Jones
Well, we would love to have had you but thank you for thinking about it.
- [51:27]
I
Oh, man, you're talking. My. My license plates say K N T U C K Y. So you Got a big fan here. So number one, UK is the best team ever. I've been making some notes here.
- [51:41]
Matt Jones
Number I just have like 30 seconds. Go ahead.
- [51:44]
I
With Luigi on the, with Luigi logo on the toboggan. You gotta explain that because most of UK fans everywhere outside of Kentucky doesn't. A Toboggan is an 8 foot wood sled with a curve at the top. Number three, apathetic. Apathetic about anything. Come on. 30 years of Nebraska football. We got the apathy thing. And then on Gonzaga real quick, they shot well, but they just missed. They could not rebound because they were overpowered by our us on the boards. They couldn't hit a free throw. And all of that being said, UK didn't shoot the three as well either. If we had hit the threes like we usually do here in the first few games we've had, we'd apply.
- [52:28]
Matt Jones
We'd be great. I agree with all that. Appreciate the call. And we did overpower them on the glass, which is amazing because they overpowered us at the beginning of the game. DraftKings, if you want to place a wager. I did really well on this trip. I actually cashed out a little bit. You could do that on DraftKings promo code KSR BET5. If it wins, you get 150 bucks from our friends at DraftKings. Let's do our pick of the night. John Calipari's Arkansas Razorbacks are at home playing 14th ranked Michigan.
- [52:58]
Max Duffy
It's in the garden, but.
- [52:59]
Matt Jones
It's in the garden. Who you got?
- [53:00]
Max Duffy
Arkansas with the upset.
- [53:01]
Matt Jones
I kind of think Arkansas with the upset too. They're four and a half point underdog. I might be betting on Cal.
- [53:07]
Max Duffy
They play right after Tennessee in a double header.
- [53:09]
Matt Jones
Yeah, those are the games tonight. We'll see you tomorrow.
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Drew Franklin
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Ryan Lemon
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Matt Jones
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