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Call 859-271-Joke or visit comedyoff broadway.com this is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Thursday, Tuesday, December 17, 8 before Christmas. I am in Louisville with Shannon. Ryan and Drew are in Lexington. This is our one day this week we are not at the KS Bar and Grill. We'll be there tomorrow, Thursday and a rare Friday without without a remote this week you can give a shout Clark's puppet shop phone line. I can see the phone line so I'll get to pick who comes on. Good news Shannon for Bob and Jamestown. 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254 in this dish and sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. If you call TJ he'll make them pay. Shannon Every time I come to downtown Louisville, to this building which ends up being once every, I don't know, two, three, four weeks, two things I notice, one, there are fewer and fewer people in this building. Yeah. Like, I mean, about three other people wandering around. That's about it. There was a time there were a lot of people in this building. That time is no longer the case. The second thing, and this is sadder to me is there are no longer people in downtown Louisville at all. You know what I mean? Like, like the, it is amazing to me. You know, I used to work down here as a lawyer and then we moved down here a few years ago. Like no one is downtown. That's, that cannot be good for the city. I don't get to wander out around, you know, 10 o'clock, but I'm in here at 6:30 in the morning. So nobody's out at that time anyway. But yeah, that's not good. It's not. Nobody is walking around the streets. That makes me, it makes me sad. This, the, the, the city, you know, I don't think it ever completely. Whereas in Lexington, that's not the case. But in In Louisville, it is now. Speaking of Lexington, I didn't. Wasn't going to leave with this, but it's a good transition. Ryan, do you know what. What Bloomberg is. Do you. Do you know what that is? The Bloomberg Report. What does that mean? Business news reporting. Yeah, it's a. It's a business like economy website, right? I told you. There was a time I subscribed to the Bloomberg magazine, but then they cut it, unfortunately. I guess it was. I was the only person. Ryan subscribing. But yesterday they still have a website, and they released the 25 places in the world that you want to make sure you visit in 2025. Now, Drew, that sounds exciting, right? You could pick any 25 places in the world that you want to visit in 2025. Doesn't that seem exciting? Oh, I'd love to travel. I'd love to see this list. All right. On the list are four places in the United States and then a lot of places around the world. And on this list, Ryan, lumen of where you should go in 2025, one of the places is Lexington, Kentucky. Yeah. Woot, woot. Does that surprise you that we would be one of the 2025 places that you would want to visit in. This is my feeling about it. I get it. Because Lexington is a beautiful town, and with Keeneland, the horse farms, it is. The breweries is absolutely beautiful. But when people come here in the middle of the summer and they ask me what they should do, I always draw a blank. When you draw a blank, you can't think of one thing for them to do. Don't put them on the tourism commission. Yeah, no kidding. They didn't interview you for this article, did they? Okay, so when they come in, they're like, hey, you know, Kingland's not in session. We did the brewery. What else is there to do in Lexington? Crickets. You can't think of anything else? What am I going to tell them? Go to the Henry Clay home? Yeah. Well, I don't know. The Mary Todd Lincoln House. Mary Todd, that's an afternoon. Just go to the horse park, right? It's expensive. What do you mean it's expensive? It's like $60 a person these days. We're assuming these people. You're talking to vacation money all over the world. I feel like if they got on a plane and flew from Shannon, they can pay to go to the horse park. Yeah. Ryan, you just paid $50 to go up in the Space Needle at Seattle. Well, that was worth it. Wait a minute. Did that cost 50. Oh, yeah, yeah. You paid $50 to go up in the space. It was pretty awesome. Once you got up there. Like the view was amazing. They had a glass floor. It rotated. I wouldn't. Cool. Hang on. Just. I wouldn't have done that. You all spent $50 to just stand somewhere. When we got up there, we got a drink that was $20. All your drinks are $20 a piece up there. I did get an old fashioned was $22. You are the two stingiest people I know and you paid $50 to ride an elephant. When are we ever going to be in Seattle again? Well, the NCAA tournament is there this year, so you might go right back. We'll go back up on the Space Needle. Well, anyway, the 25 best places to go in 25, it includes the other places in America were San Diego, but it's like the R Valley in Germany. Rome. Cause it's festival Alaska was on there. Cuba. But Ryan, also Lexington, Kentucky. So we should be proud of the state. The city that we do this show in is one of the places you should be. Like I said, the beauty of Lexington is what attracts people. I think so much, but I just have trouble telling people what to do. Once again, especially they have kids. We have kids. What do we do when we come to Lexington? If you're on a budget of can't afford $60. Yeah. Then you shouldn't come. To be honest with you. Then you should just stay where you are because I don't think. I don't think it's going to work for you. All right, so yesterday, Ryan, after the show Drew the all anybody wanted to talk about online and when I ran into person, into people in person was this whole. Do you sit down or not? Yeah. It is amazing how this issue which is percolated for 15 years since we've been doing this show, really seems to have hit its breaking point with Caleb the standard. Drew, I. I don't know about you, but looking around, it seems like most people are on Caleb the standard side. Although I will say there is a loud minority of people who don't like the idea of standing. I had somebody who sat in that section who said to me that he didn't like it cuz he thought Caleb was just standing to stand, that it wasn't cheering, he was just standing. But Drew, you're out and about. Have you. Do you think most people are pro the standard? I do. And I also think it is. It is everywhere. Not 10 minutes after the show, I went to Kroger and someone Talked someone in Kroger about the standing debate. I mean, right after we ended yesterday, I've gotten messages from people that are pro stander and pro sitting just from section 15. I've had them split on that. But overall, I'd say it's like 90% in favor of the standing. And to be honest, anyone that has been against the standing, they've been a little older. Yeah. So I think it's a lot of age, Shannon. I think this was far more than the dude that got his picture taken. And this guy. I think all of section 15 was at war because I've had. I feel like every seat in the section has contacted me to tell me what. I mean, first of all, I didn't know how many people I knew that sat in that section. And secondly, they all had an opinion. But here is the opinion. So I have some news on it, Ryan, that I. Okay, all right. This is the opinion that I think is the most important. One of the questions we had, Shannon, was what are you going to arrest him for? Right. Like what, What. What is the. What is the crime? This is apparently the committee of 101. That's the blue coats. Right. Apparently got an update to what they're supposed to be doing. So I had a blue coat, Shannon, reach out to me. Anonymous. Okay, this is helpful. This person is a blue coat. Yeah. But they didn't want me to say their name, which I understand. And here I'm going to read you the email. I am a blue coat, and as such, I'm asking you not to reveal. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The correct, correct action. We have been. We have been told by the committee member should have been to tell the complaining fan that Caleb, the fan that was standing, was allowed to stand as long as he was in his assigned seat. We cannot tell fans at football or basketball games or any other events they're not allowed to stand unless they're standing in the aisle so that we aren't compliant with the fire code. Should the fan become unruly, there's a chain of command to follow which would then get in touch with our section leader, who would go to a UK rep, who then could go to the police. It looked to me on the video like Caleb was not unruly. So the police should have never been called in the first place. And threats to have fans removed is not something we as blue coats are allowed to do individually. So there you have it. He's allowed to stand as long as he's allowed to. Then I had somebody from the police Reach out, Ryan. Yes. And here's what they say. The cop in question should have never done, should have never threatened arrest. The Blue Coats are the ones that decide the policy in Rupp Arena. If they say he has to go, the cop can cite for criminal trespass. If he were to refuse, they could arrest. But ultimately it's the Blue Coats who would decide. The officer doesn't decide on his own because it is a UK event. So it sounds to me like ultimately this is a UK decision, not a cop decision. And ultimately the Blue Coats should not be able to, should not tell a person who is just standing and not being unruly that they can't do it. So it sounds like to me, Ryan, that unless the Caleb kid was doing something unruly, according to UK policy and according to police policy, he has a right to stand during the game. And I'm glad you put that out there because we talked about on the pre show, I feel like UK can't come out and mandate that people can't stand up. And if they've given the Blue Coats the, the authority to dictate that, I think that's the best move. You can't tell people to sit down. You can't tell people they can't stand up and cheer. And as I suspected, you can't just say, I'm going to arrest you, Drew, and I'll figure out what it is when we get in the car on the way. Right. Like there it would have to be a trespass. And it's only a trespass if UK tells him he can't sit. And it sounds like to me that whatever blue coat told him he couldn't sit was in the wrong. At least if you listen to their policy and that's good policy, especially if you're just in your own seat in the. With the you'll go to jail is a little threatening. And my favorite part, all of this is while he's telling him to sit, everyone in Rupp arena stands up because, oh yeah, it's a basketball game. Yeah, we'll stand up during basketball games. But as he's trying to handle it is when the, the whole crowd goes wild, just showing how silly it was that he's trying to get a guy to sit down. So here's what I think is going to happen, Shannon, at this next game. Yeah, right now they're lucky that Christmas is coming and like some people will forget this, right? Like people will move on with their lives. But the next home game is the 31st New Year's Eve, a date that I don't know if, you know, Shannon, people tend to drink. Yeah, it's a party day. It's a party day. Now. The game's at 2 in the afternoon, so it's not that late. I think Shannon, people are just going to be standing for the sake of staying. Yeah, right. I think they're going to be. I think there's going to be a bunch of people who decide. I am making my literal stand on principle here. And I think you're going to have the potential for more of these little interactions, which is why ultimately I believe that UK probably should send out some kind of statement because otherwise I think you're asking for little fan fights all over the crowd at the next home game. Do you agree with that? Well, what kind of statement are you going to send out? Just to say, hey, reminder that fans are allowed to stand? I mean, what, what kind of statement would you put out? I mean. Yeah, just a reminder. Say that. I would say a reminder. We encourage our fans to be considerate, but they also have a right to stand and cheer for their team. Okay. Yeah, I like that. Just so you know, if you get behind a guy that or a person that stands, it's bad luck. Well, yes, but that is allowed. Just so everybody's on the same page, you send out a statement, Ryan, if you were, if you were UK only to say fans have the right to stand, you can't restrict them from standing. And I, and we talked about this yesterday, the one thing Caleb did, he said he checked with the people behind him and the people sitting right behind him were okay with it, that he was being respectful to the fans. I did have a couple of people, to be fair, say in the group that maybe Caleb was being a little chesty drew about standing and that he stood, he apparently stood at the beginning of the game, then he sat and then he stood at the entire end of the game. And so there were some people that were like, you know what, he wasn't being unruly, but he was also trying to get a reaction. It was what some people in the section said. I wasn't there, so I don't know. And I could understand a little bit of that. I mean, there are different levels of standing. I mean, some people stand to cheer. Some it's a little more attention seeking maybe to provoke something like this. Maybe you're like me and you have to stand up because your back hurts and you gotta. You feel 90 years old. But if he's just up there kind of trying to get a reaction by standing. That's different than if he's just upstanding and trying to cheer on Kentucky. But what you just said there, he didn't stand the entire game. He stood at the beginning. And that's what I want my fan base to do. Like if you're not going to stand the whole game, beginning and end at least. Well, so that is the official, like, what the rules are. Okay, going forward. That's from the the blue coat. It sounds like maybe the blue coat overreacted, the cop overreacted, and now we'll see what ends up happening in the future. But I just kind of have a feeling we're going to see more of this through the year because certainly online the reaction is pro. Caleb, I tell you one thing. I think you talked about the Brown game. There'll be a lot of people look straight at section 15 and see what's going on. Section 15, Shannon, was where it all goes down. Bunch of troublemakers. And I'll say this section 15's got a lot of leakers because there's a lot of Section 15 writers that were out there. Yeah, there are. And I'm we're gonna have the Cameras situated on section 15. 859-280-2287 Text Machine 772-774-5254 we're going to talk a little football and I got to ask Shannon about the drones because it's all anybody's talking about around the country. This is KSR Small Business Owners. This one's for you. Chase for Business and iheart bring you a podcast series called the Unshakables. This one of a kind series will shine the spotlight on small business owners like you who faced a do or die moment that ultimately made their business what it is today. Learn more@chase.com business podcast Chase make more of what's Yours Chase Mobile app is available for select mobile devices. Message and data rates may apply. JPMorgan Chase Bank NA Member FDIC Copyright 2024 JPMorgan Chase Co. 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He was in trouble, but he was, you know, for that period of time. Shane, he was like a manly guy. Right. I mean, if he picked you, of all the people in the gym to spot standing next to him, I don't think he looked at me with my goggles and thought, that's who I would like to have spot me. That kid right there. That kid right there. He's the. He's the tough one. Some of the pro standing contingent Ryan is writing in. One person goes, I'd like to know if Caleb spent thousands of dollars on his season tickets. Well, I don't think that matters. Right. Like, as long as he has the ticket, Ryan, it's not ours to judge. Why? Whether it's valid or not. That's true. That's exactly right. I think he, Caleb even said in his call yesterday was his first ever game at uk. He was excited to be there. Yeah, I mean, you don't get to decide if you have a ticket. You don't get to decide. Well, I spent more on this one than you. I don't. Bad, bad argument. Yeah. One person writes, matt, I think we should stand to cheer, but sit to watch. Drew, do you agree with that? Stand to cheer, Sit to watch. I do not agree with that. I think at some point you should take breaks. If you're standing the entire 40 minute game, you might be attention seeking a little bit, but no, you can stand up. Certainly when the game gets tight late in the game, stand up the whole time if you feel like it. The team needs it. When you, when you stand, whatever you're doing, if you stand, you do you project more authority. Ryan. That's why I have a stand at remotes. Right. What are you laughing at? He's not exactly standing. Are you laying down? I have a fire, Drew. Why are you telling on me? No, no, I didn't, I didn't say you're laying down. I didn't Say you're laying down. It is a natural thing that if you stand or sit up straight, you will be more interested. You will project more authority. If you lay down like a. Like a sloth, which is what Ryan, I'm sure, is doing right now, Shannon, you're inevitably not going to be as mentally engaged. You're just not. He's going to fall asleep. Yeah. Laying down like that. So. So, Ryan, I don't expect you to stand, but will you sit up with a decent posture? I didn't say he's lying down. I'm just saying we have a nice, comfortable environment. Can you sit up with a good posture? Okay, I'm sitting up. Drew told him. My son told on me. Now I got a laugh. I had to say something. I could tell. On a cozy couch, I could tell that's exactly what he was doing. All right, for this couch. For the next. Before we go, the phones. 859-280-2287. Do me a favor, Drew, for this topic, I need you to turn Ryan's mic down. Okay. All right. I got it right here in front of me. Ryan, you. Because when I say this, you're going to say something offensive. And. Shannon, I don't need that. Okay? Yeah, yeah. Probably best that he doesn't talk here. Yeah, yeah. Ryan, Mike off. He's got. Just for Drew and Shannon. Mark Pope said yesterday that he wants his team to have a championship chest. Yes, I heard that. Now you can see why I turned his microphone on. He wants Kentucky to have a championship chest. And here's what he meant by that. And I love this. He said, and he's right about this, that if you play defense with your chest, like they teach you in the military, how to stay in. Shannon, Right? Chest out. If you play defense with your chest out, you can be physical. You can even sort of bump into the guys. And they are very unlikely to call a foul. But if you reach and hit them with your arm, they'll call a foul. So he teaches his players to bump up against people with their chest because they're unlikely to call foul. And he said, away. And Butler and Noah, of all people, are the best at it. And he's trying to teach the whole team to do it. He specifically was talking about Amari Williams. Don't slap at people. Get a championship chest. Do you like that? Makes sense to me. I mean, because, you know, most of the fouls that are called are when guys that are defending start flailing with their arms. So if you chest up, you get a little Leeway, you can bump the guy around, be physical that way. As long as you don't get him with your arms. Usually you see that refs won't call a foul there. So I think it makes sense, Drew, the championship chest makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you? Absolutely. Another example of Pope being a lot smarter than everyone else. The way he explained it, he went to the rules. I couldn't even keep up with it during the show last night. But I do know is that you don't beat Duke without the championship chest. Because in that Journey video at halftime, they were screaming, use your championship chest. In the. Especially Coach Brooks, the assistant. He was just shouting championship chest in that comeback. So that helped him beat Duke. So of course I'm going to believe in it. And you know, when they got in that little fight, Shannon, it was a championship chess. None of them threw a punch. Garrison was just walking over there with his chest out going, bam, bam, bam. What was the other part that he said? A positive step. He made a positive step towards the Louisville bench and chest up. Championship chest. And no harm, no foul. So I am going to be watching in the next game and I'm going to be counting the championship chess that I see the players do. Of course, of the time, now that I. He says it, I think about it. Butler does that a ton. And I'm going to be watching for it in the next game. All right, now you can turn Ryan back up. Okay. Welcome back, Ryan. Welcome back. I knew he was. He was going to say something, Shannon, like about Dolly Parton or something like that. So I wonder he didn't recruit Dolly. Turn him back down. All right, I got him, Jeff. Go ahead, Jeff. Hey, guys. One pro stand UK grad from 2006. I've been asked to sit down by blue coats multiple times, but now we know they can't do that. Now we know that unless you're being unruly, they can't tell you to sit down. And everyone should take that knowledge into the game. But go ahead and. Well, and I think we've got a major opportunity to redefine what it means to come to Rupp arena. Maybe create a family friendly zone. Right? You can seek that out if. If you've got a young one with you, if you've got an elderly person with you. But, like, huge opportunity to redefine what it means to come to Rupp arena for a game. Second is on the chest out. My. My biggest critique of where we could potentially become elite is Amari Williams playing with his hands up on both sides of the ball. He plays with his hands at his knees, down below. He does often. And that's why he didn't play in the second half. He had. He. There's that play. It was early in the second half where he didn't even have his hands up. The guy got the rebound and made the layup, and Pope didn't put him back in after that. So I think, you know, let's ride the ride with him and support them, but there's some major opportunity there to just become more imposing for them. Totally agree. Appreciate the call. Championship chest. Shane. I'm gonna come over there right now and give you a championship chest. Chest bought me. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is ksr. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay. Now. More of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones. You know this song, Shannon or Ryan? Oh, I absolutely know this song. Sang it a lot in church. I've heard it. Yes. Of God my savior. Okay. Nobody wants to hear you sing the. The. It's. It's like an old mountain song. This is not the version that I would. That I. That I would be, you know, used to. But standing on the promises of God. Yep, that's good. Mountain hymn. Drew, are you familiar? They sing this in Madisonville? I don't think this was on our playlist, but I'm enjoying it. Sounds. It sounds a lot like others we had. I don't think we had the specific one. Okay. Shannon, you know, we had this British guy in town last week. Yeah. How did that go? So it went well, but I had to drive him from Louisville to country boy in Georgetown. Right. Yeah. You know, he's not the most talkative guy in the world. So I just put my. My music. My, like, cd. Well, not cd, just what's on my phone. Right. All the. My library on my Spotify. I just hit it, put it on, like, skip. Right. And I wasn't really thinking, and then all of a sudden, this old gospel hymn came on called that Washed in the Blood of the Lamb. You know, we've played that before on him. Which is kind of a really weird song. It comes from the Bible, but it's like, are you washed in the blood of the lamb? Which is kind of gross if you just take it literally, you know? I mean, it's metaphorical. Right. That guy was probably ready to jump out of A window. This dude was not a religious guy, I don't think. Yeah. So he just hears this song playing, are you washed in the blood of the lamb? And I'm taking him through rural Scott county to country boy. And I could just see a look on his face where he was like, do I want to get involved in this? Am I about to get slaughtered like a lamb? So I said to explain to him what washed in the blood of the lamb was Ryan. Because I don't think he knew. I was like, oh, it's in the Bible. It's in the Bible. We don't. I'm not really washing you with blood of the lamb. It's a metaphor. Yeah. If you had no idea what was going on. That is kind of a strange. Kind of a weird song verse you have to hear. So you didn't feel compelled to, like, maybe play some British music for him. Why would you do that? Like, he's. Because that's where he's from. But you don't. If I was in Britain and they played American sound. People do not want. When you visit India, you don't want people to play music from Kentucky. You want to know about India, right? I don't know. I'd probably like something I'm familiar with. So you just go to India and eat hamburgers and listen. Go to India and say, put on some stone Temple Pilots. See, that's what. That's what's wrong with you all. That's what I was talking about yesterday. Don't you want to feel the culture you're in? You don't go to Paris and order a hamburger. Yeah, I would. Drew, back me up. I didn't say slaughter. First of all, it's not slaughtered by the lamb. It's washed. That's different than slaughtered blood. Drew, aren't you. Am I not right about that? These two, they would just like to go to McDonald's in whatever country they're in. I know they'd be at Hooters, India, as fast as they could get there. I'm a little more like you. I would. I would prefer to hear the local Indian radio. Go to the local Indian restaurant. I want to see how I could see Ryan. Hooters by. I could see it. Brett, Go ahead. Brent. Hey, Matt. What's up? How you guys? Good. So I just want to call in about the standing thing. I know a lot of people are saying that they're for it, and I feel the same way. I live, like two and a half, three hours away. I don't get to come to a lot of basketball games because they're during the week and because of the price and how hard it is to get tickets. If I pay for a ticket and I drive all the way there and it's against our biggest rival, Louisville, and that is an important game for us, I am standing. I paid for that ticket just as much as that other person and I have the right to stand. And if that police officer were to come down and. You don't have a right. Hang on a second. Hang on just a second. Hang on just a second. You can't just start saying stuff when you said I have a right to do it. Just for the record. No, you don't. Unless UK says you do. All right? There is no God given right to go into a building that you are not the owner of and do whatever you want. If UK says you have a right, then you do. If UK says you don't, then you don't. So I do think it's important to understand UK decides this. And so while I think I agree with you, they should decide that you don't just have a right to have a ticket and do whatever you want, UK still gets to decide it. Matt, Matt, that's within reason. Everyone understands that. But if that person has a right to sit in that seat because they bought the ticket, then I have the ability to stand. Only if UK says you do. Only if UK says. If you say that we couldn't. So that person is making a statement and getting upset about something that UK never said that we couldn't do. That. I think that part is correct. You're exactly right. But. But that's why I think, Ryan, it's important for UK and I appreciate the call to make clear because I just don't want to see our fans fighting each other on the 31st. And that's what the call kind of hinted to. You know, the fact that this was a huge rivalry game I think makes this story stand out even more because you want your crowd to be. You want the home court advantage, you want your crowd to be into the game. You're playing Louisville, for crying out loud. Yeah, Mike, what's up? Mike? Mike? Hello? Go ahead, sir. Hey, who? What's up? Take me off speakerphone and go ahead. Okay. How's that? Not much better, but go ahead. Okay, now I'm off speaker. So there you go. There you go. I just had an idea for a nickname. No, no. How about the Importables? The what? The Importables. What does M come from? The portal. But what does import. Yeah, but importables would mean, like, we're importing them from another country. Well, they all came out of the portal. Okay. The M portables. Yeah. All right. Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate the call, Ed. What do you think, Shannon? Importables? No. No. Not gonna work. We haven't had a good nickname since Devastation Incorporated. Stray Cast. That was the. No, Stray Cast. Devastation Incorporated. Stray Cast was wonderful. All right, I got a question for you, Ryan. Ready? Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy agreed to give $1 million back of his salary every year for nil. Florida State coach Mike Norville has three years left on his deal. Agreed to give 1.5 million back of his. Of his contract for nil. Both of them said they both had very, very bad years last. Last year. And both of them said they were doing it because they didn't think they had earned that salary and it would be better off going to the players because they didn't earn it. Are you surprised a coach would do that? And do you think when coaches don't do well, that should be something that they do? I think it helps their relationship with the fan base if they make that sacrifice. Say, hey, I. Look, this was not to our standards. I didn't do a good job. This is what we're going to do to solve the problem. Drew. It's. It's really weird that they did that. I mean, I think it's cool, but I would say 99% of people wouldn't do that. I'm kind of shocked they did it. Honestly did, though. I know. That's why I'm saying I'm surprised. And I. If I'm a fan, I. That would go a long way with me. But to have an expectation or to think it would continue, I wouldn't think so. But again, the fact that two have already done it, I'm. Would you all do it? Okay, so let's just. Let's put yourself in their shoes. They're making whatever number they're making. I don't know what. What those two guys are making, but they also think a big part of their problem is they can't get guys in the portal. They can't get guys that are good enough. Would you sacrifice your money in the short term to try to have success that could then potentially get you more money in the long term? Or would you just say, this is what you said. You're paying me. You're paying me. That's why you have contracts. Shannon, I know you would say that's what I'm Getting that is no doubt in my mind you would pay the money. What about you, Ryan? Drew? The thing is you have to put yourselves in their shoes. They're so wealthy, that's money that they will likely never realistically see. At the end of the day, they've already made so much. It's probably a little easier for them to make that call than me or Ryan sitting here. But I still think, I don't know that I would do it. I think it's a big ask of someone. Let's put it in the percentage of, let's say ryan, you're making $100,000. I mean this is like 10% of their salary. Would you give back 10 in order to try to make it to where you could do your job better, to potentially make more and have more success down the road? See, that's it. I think, you know, you, you take the hit now with the hope it's going to pay dividends in the future years. With the hope there's no proof. There isn't proof. But I could another bad year, I could get fired and have zero dollars and have nothing. Yeah, but then you'll have your buyout. You will. But then you might not be able to get another coaching job. If you're coaching at that level, you'll find another player. I don't know if Mike Norville will. I don't know if Mike Norville will get another big time coaching job if he fails at Florida State. If he completely fails at Florida State. I think teams will go. If you couldn't win there, why do we think you're going to win here? And I think he's a guy that's a good example because Florida State has this great tradition. So he's trying to say, hey look, I'm going to donate this money from my own salary. We're going to turn this around. His hope is they do turn it around so he stays the Florida State coach. I certainly would do it. And I have done versions of this over the years many times, like the first four or five trips we took across the country. I paid for all of those. Yes, you did. Because I knew it would be good content. I knew it would help us build the brand of the show and I knew it would pay dividends in the future. Now when you finish that and you've paid six to $8,000, you go, man, that was a lot of money for us to drive around the country. But Ryan, the goal is to create a better product for then going forward. And I kind of think that's what they're doing just on a much larger level. So you know, I got to ask you this. I know you're going to say what about Stoops? Because he has gone on record and he said that one time, but he said he used to be you weren't allowed to do it. Exactly. And there were a lot of coaches that would say I would do this if given the chance. Yep. Well, now you can. So we're coming off a bad season, so I can do it. I mean, would you do it if you were like, do you think Stu, first of all, do you think Stoops would do it? Actually, hold that thought. Think about it during the break because there gonna be more coaches doing this. 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If I sit here and put my fan hat on and I see my coach after a 4 and 8 season after he's already said he would do it, go ahead and do it. It would resonate with me. Yes. You think it would help his standing? What about you, Drew? I think it would help a little bit because one of the things I see working against him most is a lot of people want to say 9 million a year, top 10 highest paid coach. Well, if he gives a million back, it's only 8 million a year. So he's not as get paid as much. And he's at least acknowledging that I didn't live up to what I'm paid to do in that season and I'm going to, you know, put it back towards helping. It would be kind of pony up. Yeah, he would be taking his own words. Right. And putting them into practice. Do you think it would make a difference, though, for the fans? Because the worst would be to give back a million dollars and it doesn't change anybody's mind. Yeah, that's the worst thing. I mean, you know. Yeah, I think build up a lot of goodwill for the fan base, considering. I think it would do. Yeah. Especially if you see maybe other coaches in the sec, like if Shane Beamer did it. Well, first of all, apparently Chip Kelly did it, which I did. I guess he's at Ohio State as the offensive coordinator. And if you do it, do you do it quietly, like behind the scenes, or do you make a product? No, I think you go, you know, I'm ponying up everybody. I mean, I think you would have to do it publicly. If you did it privately, nobody would even care. I will say part of the reason Gundy and Norville did it is it's in the conferences that are not making as much money as the sec. So there's probably less reason to do it in the sec, to be honest. But it is, it is like an interesting question. Ed in Michigan. Go ahead and. Hey, guys. Good morning. So I was thinking, out of the two quarterbacks in town, which one do we would prefer to have? And when you say the two quarterbacks in town, what do you mean? There's the kid from Duke, Malik Murphy, and then is there another one Here, Drew. I don't. Is there another one visiting right now? The Calzada is visiting today. Who's that? I don't know who that is from. Incarnate Word. Oh, the Incarnate Word. He played at A and M. That's where he was really shunned. For me, I'd like the Duke kid because he went nine and three and so I know that kid can win and I know he can play. He. He started his career at Texas. So for me, I'd like Malik Murphy over it. But the Incarnate Word kid, he had success, but it was at a different level. So go ahead. All right, so. And as for Mark Stoops, the more money he gives back, I would be very happy. And the more he gets, the happier I would get. So. So if he made no money, he'd be really happy. And these cats, everybody trying to come up with a name, you know, these are older cats, you know, and so I came up with cat daddy side like that name. So not calling. Go cat. I'm not. I appreciate the call. I'm not calling it. I know you're not. I'm not calling a 22 year old kid my cat daddy. I'm just not. I'm just not doing that. I have a free. Come on. I have. I have lines. I'm not calling 22 year old. I'm not looking at Jackson Robinson. Go, hey cat daddy. Like. I'm not doing. Bill, go ahead. Bill. Bill. No. Bill. Let's go to Joe. What's up, Joe? Hey, how's it going, guys? So looking at the stats for Kentucky basketball shooting, I don't. I think we're wildly underestimating this team's seat ceiling from a three point perspective. Kobe Bray's career average is 44, shooting 53. Lamont Butler's 33% for career and. But he's shooting 48 this year. The rest of the roster is shooting at their percentage or a percent below, minus Jackson Robinson, which is 33% for his career and 30% this year. You have to believe that our team is going to shoot better than 36% for the year and they're all going to improve on those numbers. I think that's a great point. I appreciate the call. Drew, are you worried at all about the fact that outside of Brea and Butler, the rest of guys really have not shot well from three since those first three or four games? I'm not worried, but I can't say that many more times. It's been what, six out of seven Games now they haven't shot it well. Their percentage wasn't bad against Louisville. They just didn't take as many as they typically take. It still seems very uncharacteristic. Like Collar said, the numbers just aren't lining up with what these guys have done in the past. So I'm not worried yet. But in three weeks if they, if it hadn't got any better, I think you can't ignore it anymore. There's been a number of games in a row, right, Ryan, where we've not shot the three. Well, I mean Lamont hit six for six, but if you took that out, it's been a pretty terrible run of three point shooting the last few games. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm still on the boat that the, the, the good shooting's coming. I mean Otega and Jackson and Andrew Carr, these guys are better shooters than what we've seen. And so I think it, it, it, it's coming. I think they're going to have some hot days where they're going to just light it up from outside. We're still not shooting threes well and yet we still lead the country. And scoring, that was my thing. Didn't shoot the ball particularly well against Louisville. Still score 93 points. What happens when you do? You're gonna score. Didn't shoot well against Gonzaga. Didn't really shoot well against. I mean we've had a bunch of. You're right. I mean we're gonna, we're gonna have an SEC game where we absolutely murder a team. I don't know who it's gonna be. I think that's coming. But we're gonna have some team that we absolutely destroy. I don't. Kind of like those 90s Kentucky teams. Yes. Now there's probably going to be a game where we lose by 15 to somebody we shouldn't because we're ice cold. But we're going to have a team that we absolutely destroy. By the way, somebody who knows this better than me says that they prefer the incarnate word. Quarterback Zach, what's his name, he, he led A and M and it come back against number one Alabama through like the game winning touchdown. Tied it up. So before he stepped down to fcs, he had a good year at A and M. But what's that? Calzada. Calzada. Zach Calzada. So, so his A and M tape is where you, where you want to watch. Okay. Well, Incarnate word, he took him to the playoffs. Oh yeah. Crazy numbers there. Never been there before. So 859-280-2287. We will take a break. Be right back. KSR stay farming DJ Dramos from life as a Gringo no Making smarter financial moves today secures a financial freedom for a successful tomorrow. In my family, one of the biggest points of contention was finances. 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