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Levar Arrington
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Matt Jones
Jordan and I know you're in the middle of one of your programs, but finding out if Cascali ribociclib 200mg is right for you or a loved one means more than you know. So hit pause and Visit K I S Q A L I.com welcome back hour number two Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287 There we go here at the KS Bar and Grill as we get ready for Kentucky and Brown SCC versus the Ivy League. The Cats come in as a now a 25 point favorite. The line has risen for Kentucky up to 25 points today playing against Brown the Cat. The bar is open and it's a packed house here. I think it's going to be a fun day. And in Lexington this is our first game since the whole sit versus stand thing of, of the Louisville game. What's it going to be like in there, Drew? Do you think there's going to be many standing warriors out there?
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Ryan Lemond
I think there are. I think some will just be general excitement, but I think there might be a couple trolls mixed in. I don't know anything, but it just seems like a situation where someone might do some, some attention seeking.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemond
Or maybe look for a little conflict flip. I don't want that to be the case, but I will be keeping a close eye on section 15.
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Matt Jones
Do you remember, you remember the Georgia State game the way the crowd was different because it was the Thanksgiving holiday. It's going to be like that today too. I think there's a lot of people at this game that they don't go to a lot of games. You know, this is. They're in town for the holidays or they're off work today. I think you're going to see some of that, a lot of that. I think it's going to be a much rowdy your crowd than a game against Brown normally would be.
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Drew Franklin
You hit on it. I mean just walking around. These are folks that are normally have a chance to have tickets to go to a game. A lot of out of town people here for the holidays. So yes, they're gonna be very excited. You can feel it in here. So I think there'll be a lot of people stand up, some people out of spite, but a lot of people just because they're excited to be at Rupp arena and watch this team play.
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Ryan Lemond
It's a Big Christmas gift game, you guys.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemond
Get your family.
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Matt Jones
Big Christmas gift game.
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Ryan Lemond
You go to Brown in a few days. We got New Year's Eve, we got plans. We're gonna be with Ryan Lemon downtown. Why don't you go to the game instead? And then you get the energetic person who isn't in there much, not the person that's in that seat every. Every night.
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Matt Jones
Definitely. This is definitely a give it away at Christmas game. So you're gonna. You're gonna have a different. You're gonna have a different kind of crowd. You know, we've talked over the years about the football team coming off long. Layoffs has been absolutely awful over the last few years. Be interesting to see what Pope teams are like Ryan after layoffs for them. You know, one of the things during the Cal years, hello to the guy. Those teams usually would see improvement after this period of time. This was his famous, like Camp Cal times. And they usually did show a lot of improvement after this 10 days. Do you expect to see that with Pope?
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Drew Franklin
I think we will. You know, you hate to hate it to get your butt kicked right before Christmas, then have to sit on that for the next 10 days. That horrible feeling you have because you just got run off the court at times by Ohio State. So, yeah, I think the intensity level has been there just from hearing when the guys said yesterday. And I think they think they're really looking forward to finally getting back on the floor.
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Matt Jones
He said they spent up. Pope said they spent a lot of time during the break doing ball screen defense, which is good because we were awful at it. Last year's Kentucky team was terrible at the ball screen. This one. I actually thought we guarded it really well early in the year, but then just completely seemed to lose it. Starting really with the Louisville game. The Louisville and the. The Ohio State game, we just could not seem to guard any ball screen. Do you expect that to get better?
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Ryan Lemond
I think so because it's pretty obvious he's drilling that home. I didn't get to hear Pope live last night, but Jackson, Robinson and Lamont Butler did interviews. It's 20 minutes long. They must have said ball screen defense 100 times. It's the answer to Jackson's first three questions. Seems like that's all they've worked on that game. So I think even though it stinks having a drought, as a fan, you want to see him more and you want the players to go get a reset. I think maybe losing that bad might be even more laser focused during the break because they know they got to correct some things.
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Matt Jones
I'm a little more confident about the ball screen defense than the one on one defense because they actually played pretty good ball screen defense against Gonzaga and Duke. You know, they were, we've seen them be good at that in other games. Whereas I, I still don't know that we're ever going to be able to guard people one on one off the dribble. But against the ball screen, I do think maybe we'll see some improvement.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I don't know how much, you know, you can improve as a defensive player during the course of a season. You know, you can work on your fundamentals and try to, you know, make things a little better, but some of these guys are just not very good defenders. But they got to be on the court because they're good on the offensive end.
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Ryan Lemond
Robinson said Pope's been telling them that they can be the best ball screen defensive team in the country. Now as a coach, you kind of say that to get him to try, but I mean it is very obvious. That's the messaging right now in practice.
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Matt Jones
Best in the country.
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Ryan Lemond
That's what he's telling them. I mean that's what you got to tell them if you want them to strive for that. But that's if we were to go look at the dry erase board behind the scenes right now, I bet that's in the biggest letters. Ball screen defense, best in the country. That's what he said. I'm just telling you what Jackson, Robinson.
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Drew Franklin
There's, you know, like I said, they've got some guys that got some defensive liabilities on this team that just they're not going to magically improve and get better.
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Matt Jones
859-280-22871 One person writes Matt during SEC play, rank our three best players in order. How do you think they'll play? All right, so we did this a lot before the season, but now we've actually seen 10 games. If you were to say for the, for SEC play, who will be our three best players in order, Ryan, what are you going to say?
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Drew Franklin
I'm going to go the three perimeter players. Actually I'm going to go Lamont, Ortega and Jackson. I think those three guys, you know, the SEC has kind of been a perimeter oriented league for many years and I think those are the three guys are going to step up and play well if they're going to do some stuff in the SEC season.
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Ryan Lemond
I have Butler and OA written in Sharpie on that list. I think I'll go Robinson too, but I could put Carr in my, in my third spot to make it three. But OA and Butler, certainly I'm going.
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Matt Jones
To go Butler, Carr, Robinson, which is a surprise because I've had Robinson as our one. I think Robinson's going to have a. To me, the key to the season is now what does Robinson do the rest of the year? I think like I kind of know what I'm going to get from Butler. I kind of know what I'm going to get from Carr for the rest of the year. I need to see what am I going to, am I going to get like star level play from Robinson or am I just going to get okay play? I think that's what I'm going to need to see.
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Drew Franklin
If you're going to be the guy. Okay, now's the time to step up and be the guy. Jackson, Robinson, if you want to improve your NBA stock, now's the time. Go be that guy.
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Matt Jones
859-280-2287 who's up next?
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Ryan Lemond
Lee is up next.
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Matt Jones
Lee. Go ahead, Lee. Hey, Matt, with all the nil money, you know, maybe being a little higher than we all anticipated, do you think Division 1 schools are going to run out of money? You think that they may have to do away with some minor men's sports, not the women's because they're going to have stay Title 9 compliant but like do away with golf or 10. Yeah. So I think that's a great question. Here's here. I think they're going to be. Three things happen because of this new revenue share coming. Number one is there are going to be some sports go away. It's probably going to start with one or two men's sports, but I think it'll be men's and women long term. I mean they will have to, they'll have to kill the same amount of women's sports as they do men. Right. So like you can't, you can't kill a women's soccer team but then leave the same. So you have to kill the same amount. But there are going to be sports go away. Just a fact. You know, you said men's golf. If I, if I were, if I were thinking about what are the sports on the chopping block. Golf is probably towards the top. I think there's a lot of schools where golf is, you know, probably in trouble. I think tennis is probably in trouble in some of these schools. Where I think you really are going to see it is something like swimming, where the cost is huge, the roster size is huge. I think you're Going to see a lot of schools that are kind of in the business of swimming, but not really competitive. I think you're going to see a lot of those schools just get out of it. That's number one, I think. Number two, you're going to see the monetization of everything. Like, everything. So, you know, I don't know that it'll be Rupp arena forever.
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Drew Franklin
Right.
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Matt Jones
Like, it's going to be everything. But then third, and I think this isn't talked about a lot, coaches salaries are going to come down. Like your coaches salary. The days of coaches making 10 to 12 million dollars are gone. Like, and this is. I'm not trying to pick on Mark Stoops, but mark stoops making 9 million. The next dude in college football that's as good as Mark Stoops. He ain't making $9 million anymore. He's making five or six and the rest that money's going to nil. They'll say to him, mark, we want you to stay here. We'll give you six. Really, it's nine. But three of that we're putting in the nil fund. That's where I. I think it's going to have to be a Belichick Saban, you know, Dan Hurley kind of guy to get $10 million. I think you're going to see the average coach salary go down and a lot more of that money, Ryan, go into the pool for players now.
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Drew Franklin
So it's going to be up to that coach. You want to take that hit or.
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Matt Jones
But I think there. I think the schools are going to unit. I think there's going to be an informal agreement, just all cool it with the coaches because we got to do this with the players. I really believe. I think the days of these football coaches going 7 and 5 and getting 9 or $10 million, they're gone. I mean, look, Mike Gundy already readjusted his contract. Mike Norvell readjusted his contract. You're gonna see more of that, especially in the ACC and Big 12. Now, the SEC and Big Ten may take longer, but Drew, I think it's happening in all of them because the money's going to be going to the players.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, I agree with you. When you're paying $0 to your entire locker room, there was a big pot of money to give to the coaches, the assistant coaches, their travel, all that. But now the people actually out there with the ball in their hand, they're winning and losing these games. They need a slice of the pie. And there's Just not nearly enough to go around to pay many coaches, outside of legends like you said, what they're getting.
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Matt Jones
Well, let's just. I mean, let's say you were in charge of an athletic department. Let me just put you, the listener, in charge of an athletic department budget. Most athletic departments outside of the big schools were already losing money. But let's just say you're Mitch Barnhartt at Kentucky. You were making a little bit of money. I don't know what it was, but let's say you had 2 million extra in revenue. All right, so the SEC increases your contract and now you're getting, let's say, $15 million a year more from your television contract. Well, that's good. But now you have to spend $23 million more in player payouts. Where's that $8 million coming from? Now, at least with Kentucky, you're getting an extra 15 million year in a TV revenue. What if you're Louisville and you're only getting 3 million more dollars in TV revenue, but you still have to find that $22 million. Where are you getting that $19 million? You got to get it from somewhere. And I think those are the schools that are looking at the Mike Gundy's and saying, you know what, can you take a little bit less money because we got to find $19 million, Ryan, somewhere.
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Drew Franklin
I think it's become more commonplace. Exactly what Mike Gundy did. Readjust his contract. He wants to still coach. He knows the only way he can be successful is to do something like.
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Matt Jones
That in one of these schools, Drew. And it's just a matter of who does it first. And I'm gonna make you a prediction. I think our friends down the road are gonna be one of the first ones to do it. They might even be the first one to do it because I know Louisville's looking at it. They're gonna take on private equity money. One of these schools is going to sell a percentage of their athletic department to private equity. It is going to happen. It is going to happen soon. It's probably going to happen in the next couple years. And I'm going to make you a bet that Louisville is one of the first ones to do it. Because the people that run that school, they got some smart business people on there and I know they're looking into it.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, the jersey will have the Planet Fitness logo right next to the logo. I think that the days of. Because we already see it in pro sports. You got the wish symbol on Celtics or whatever it is, all the ge. They all have the logos on these jerseys now. I think that's going to come to college.
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Matt Jones
What would you think about if Kentucky was like, you know, Kentucky and Wendy's. It's. It sounds crazy until it's not. Oh, no.
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Ryan Lemond
But it's. I think it's coming. But it's. It's hilarious to think that my favorite team is the Kentucky Clark's Pumping Shops.
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Drew Franklin
What would people think if all of a sudden there's the Wendy's logo on their basketball jersey of their Kentucky Wildcats?
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Matt Jones
I don't know. I don't know if it's. The SEC is more immune, but these ACs. I don't think people realize the crisis that the ACC and Big 12 teams are about to hit. They're going to be expected to compete with the SEC in the Big Ten, but with half the revenue and the same cost because they have to spend that $22 million and they don't have the same revenue coming in. I don't know what the ACC and Big 12 teams, Ryan. I don't know what they can do. That's why Clemson and Florida State are suing to get to move because they don't know how financially they're going to do it with.
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Drew Franklin
For a school like Clemson, I can see why. Yeah, you want to still compete for the national level, but if you don't have the finances, the money to go get your players and pay your coaches, you got to move to a different conference.
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Matt Jones
And if you, you know, there, they can spend up to $22 million. But if you only choose to spend 10, how are you going to be able to compete with the guys that are. Spending 22 can be tough. You're not going to be able to.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah. I even read a story recently from a national person. It slipped my mind who wrote it, but they were talking about how, you know, now they have. These locker rooms are so extravagant. There's all these things they provide to the players. They'll dial that back and say, look, you're getting paid without question. You don't need a barbershop. Go get a haircut. You're getting.
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Matt Jones
You are exactly right. All that stuff's gonna go away, too. So for, you know, let's look at uk. You know, there's been a lot of talk about getting a new basketball practice facility. I'm not sure how high that was up on the radar, but it just went down because. Because that money that was going to be spent creating this great facility, they have to use it to actually give the players in there.
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Ryan Lemond
Now they're gonna tell the players the money for that facility is in your pocket.
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Matt Jones
That's right. You don't have a barber shop because you got that car.
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Ryan Lemond
So go get your own haircut.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. So 859-280-2287. Who's next? John is up next. John.
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Caller
Yes. Man. Yeah. Back that up. Which is just. I've been talking about. It would be. That is something that needs to be done. Coaches make a lot of money. And today in the Brown game, it will be a track game. Probably looking ahead a little bit to Florida, the main game, of course, for the whole season. And one of the main games for the whole season in the sec. And that one guy nearly pretty good. Pretty good player.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Caller
Brown. And so you know it'd be a closer game than what people playing. Probably 25 points.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I agree. I appreciate the call. I don't think. Ryan. I'm not worried about being a trap game because we haven't played in so long. I think the guys are going to be excited to play. So I don't think it's like one of those things where you look past them because these guys haven't been on the court in a while. But I just think Brown's good enough that it'll be competitive for a lot of the game.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. If we had just gotten beat by Ohio State like on Monday or something. Well, you. Then you're looking ahead to Florida. Maybe a trap game. The fact it's been so long, these guys are chomping at the bit to get back on the court. Regardless if it's Brown, Florida, where they just want to get back on the court and play somebody.
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Ryan Lemond
Kansas played Brown last weekend. They were calling it a trap game. It's right for the holiday. Other games around it. I think, like Matt said with the gap here, I don't think you sneak up on them in this one. I thought the caller said it's going to be a track game, like fast pace. And I was going to add Brown is one of the slowest team.
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Matt Jones
They are very strong.
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Ryan Lemond
So it is not going to be a track meet. They're going to slow it down. Like we've seen a lot of teams.
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Matt Jones
They're very slow. Exact. I mean, they're exactly what we don't want to see. They're slow, they're physical. They're thankfully, they're not athletic. You know, Ohio State killed us with athleticism. I don't think Brown's going to kill us with athleticism, but they do block shots. I got to see how. Who are these dudes that are six, six leading the country and block shots? I got to see these guys. Drew, how does that.
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Ryan Lemond
I wrote down their starting lineup. It goes six foot six foot six, four six, five, six, seven. That's.
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Matt Jones
And they, how are they blocking shots?
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Ryan Lemond
It's impressive. And the guy blocking the shots, they had a three time captain, big guy go down right before the year had surgery and they didn't know how he was going to replace him. And his name's Landon Lewis has stepped in and he's putting up crazy numbers and kind of a fill in role. He was on the team last year, played barely at all and he's been good for him. He's one of the leaders.
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Matt Jones
They were an out contender to be a outside top 25 candidate if that guy hadn't gotten hurt. I mean they thought, they thought they could be good this year. Go beyond resolutions and create a happier, healthier lifestyle that you can be proud of with Cornbread Hemp. Cornbread Hemp has organic gummies, oils, lotions, help you get a better night's sleep and relieve aches and pains. It's more than just a new Year's resolution. It's a way of Life. Go to cornbreadhemp.com promo code KSR. Cornbread Hemp. It's the good life. Who's next?
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Ryan Lemond
Drew is up next.
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Matt Jones
Drew, go ahead, Drew.
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Caller
Hey, good day gentlemen. Matt, if you guys mentioned this second, forgive me but as far as the private equity, does that change tax incentives? If you mentioned that, I'm sorry just now able to tune in. But as far as like people donating money or buying into the game, is there something that would, would cause people to do that quicker than, than just giving to nil?
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Matt Jones
Well, remember that when they changed the tax code the last time Trump was president, they took away the, the what do you call it, the incentive to give to athletic foundations. You used to be able to write that money off and then when they did the, they you can't do that anymore. That changed in like 2018 or 2019. So I don't think it will change anything. When you give, if you give to a university to like the general fund, you can get a tax write off but if you give to the UK athletic department, it is now not a write off anymore. So I don't think that it would, I don't, I don't think it would make any difference.
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Caller
Okay. The reason I was wondering, I mean if I'm, if I'm rich enough to give millions of dollars or 500 grand and I'm losing out on a tax benefit. You really have to trust a coach or. Yeah, you do program to be able to do that.
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Ryan Lemond
All right.
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Matt Jones
Thanks, man. I appreciate the call. No, you do. I mean the like I, you know, if you've listened to show I'm a big believer in the revenue sharing nil. I'm for all of it. I think most of the whining about it is Ms. Is is incorrect. And I do think there's going to be a system put in place that's actually going to make it significantly better. But the reality is this is going to become the equivalent of a professional sport.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
And as such, the way we look at it is going to be different, including for players. You know, I saw there's a guy, Indiana has Diallo or whatever, he transferred from Arizona State. He's not even playing and he missed a game. He got spended for a game because he was late because he was at a bar the night before. They're paying him $2 million. Like people look at that differently. Ryan. When they're paying you $2 million, they start to look at it like a pro.
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Drew Franklin
That's why you've talked a lot about eventually she just needs contracts. You need something in writing where maybe if he. You don't show up for a game or you get suspended, you don't get some of that money and then a.
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Ryan Lemond
Player, they're fired up because he's like laughing on the bench in a clip. So the fans are seeing this guy took millions from $2 million and he's out the night before a game and cutting up on the bench. So you're just going to start seeing a little more criticism involved too.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemond
Expecting more of these guys. You should expect your guy to not stay out of that for a game.
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Matt Jones
Even if not, it is just going to be a different thing. All right, so we're going to lose some people here now as we will lose a lot of people, we will move to the pregame show. If you are at one of our affiliates that does not take the pregame show. You can go online right now to wlap.com and you can hear we're going to shift to the pre. Pregame show. We will be playing the best of for the last 30 minutes. So let's do this. I'll save the MVP. But do you feel good about a victory today?
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Ryan Lemond
I feel good about a victory, but I also think Brown will keep it close for a little while. I think it'll be similar to Kansas. It'll be close for a half and then Kentucky will pull away.
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Drew Franklin
You know, Kentucky's had some slow starts, you know, and so I expect it to be a relatively close game by halftime, but Kentucky pulls out and wins it.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I think this will be, I think it'll be a good game. I think Kentucky's got a Kentucky will win, but Kentucky's going to get challenged a lot of this game. And I think this is, I'm really intrigued to watch this, to see how I feel about the game on Saturday, which I think Saturday, to me, Saturday, like I've said, is one of the two or three biggest games of the year. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. And then, well, it'll be a few minutes and then we'll be back for the pregame show. It's a Kentucky select Chevy Dealers KSR pregame.
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