Caller (2:58)

Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

Matt Jones (3:05)

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Thank you very much. You know what? I still appreciate even the the one hearty clap there. Text machine is 772-77-45254. If you're out and about, have lunch, say hello. We'll be. We're planning on now being open for the game tonight, but that will be weather dependent. I heard you went to the Transylvania game yesterday.

Drew Franklin (3:30)

I went to see your beloved Transylvania Pioneers last night.

Matt Jones (3:34)

How did that go?

Drew Franklin (3:35)

Brian Lane had the Pioneers playing Hanover, so Josiah and I wanted to go watch the train.

Matt Jones (3:39)

So is that where he's gonna go? Josiah?

Drew Franklin (3:41)

I don't know. He's. He hasn't decided yet.

Matt Jones (3:44)

I talked to him during the UK game. Sounds like he's wavering.

Drew Franklin (3:47)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (3:48)

How's he going to decide?

Drew Franklin (3:49)

Well, we got to take your visits, your campus visits.

Matt Jones (3:53)

Tell everybody what you told me. I didn't know this was a thing, Shannon. This is I guess a new thing they do in colleges. What? Tell them about what you said.

Drew Franklin (4:00)

If he just takes an official campus visit to Hanover, he is awarded a scholarship that it gives you $4,000 a year just by making an official.

Matt Jones (4:10)

Just by visiting.

Drew Franklin (4:11)

Just by visiting. And Mount St. Joseph does the same thing. If you come on campus and make a visit, you automatically get this scholarship. So I was shocked.

Unknown Advertiser (4:21)

Yeah.

Caller (4:22)

Things have changed over the years, haven't they?

Drew Franklin (4:23)

Yeah.

Shannon the Dude (4:24)

When in the game last night. Did you catch him maybe rooting for Hanover? Did you give any tips, any direction.

Matt Jones (4:29)

Any different schools though? I mean Hanover is kind of out in the middle of nowhere. Mount St. Joseph is in Cincinnati. So like those are the two very different places.

Drew Franklin (4:40)

Very different. Yeah. So. But I'm telling you, like I said this about Dane. It's not necessarily the campus that even the team. It's that coach that's recruiting you. And that makes, that makes the huge difference with. In the recruiting world. But I'm gonna go back to Trancy Their starting center is one of my former baseball players when he was like 5, 6, 7 years old. So he's a senior.

Matt Jones (5:00)

So you feel some, some closeness. I feel the same way, by the way, about Georgetown. You know, four of my students are on that Georgetown team that is undefeated. Georgetown, number one in the country. 1604 of my sports law students, including, I think the best player. I mean, I don't. Is. Well, I know the best player was in my, in my, in my class. And so I'm gonna go watch one of their games here coming up.

Shannon the Dude (5:24)

Sorry, Georgetown game and a KSR Beck center game. Let's do it.

Matt Jones (5:30)

Let's pick a Georgetown game. I'd like to go and say hi to those, to those young, young, young fellas. They all passed my class, so that's good. So I think they're all, they all, they all did well.

Drew Franklin (5:41)

So, yeah, Georgetown's been number one in the country most of the season. Right. They're like, really?

Matt Jones (5:45)

Really? I know one of the dudes in my class was like a D1 transfer from Jacksonville State.

Drew Franklin (5:50)

Okay.

Matt Jones (5:51)

So I think they're. I think one of them maybe even played it at Eastern. So let me ask you, Ryan, let's talk about a couple other things. First of all, did you see Danny Hurley last night after UConn lost the.

Drew Franklin (6:03)

Another loss for the defending two time defending champ. That's what loss number four.

Matt Jones (6:07)

It's lost number four. But they have a guy named Caravan or something like that. So he. You need to see the final play. UConn's down one. He drives to the basket. They call a foul. He did not get fouled. It was. I mean, you want to talk all ball. Their bodies didn't touch. He did not foul. The game is a terrible call. So the guy gets two free throws. He's a senior at UConn. He's never missed two free throws back to back in his career.

Shannon the Dude (6:38)

81 shooter.

Matt Jones (6:39)

81 shooter, but has never in two free throws ever missed them back to back. Okay, they're down one. He misses both. So the game, they go off, Villanova fans going crazy. He's like walking off looking like he's gonna cry. I mean, his teammates are like kind of almost carrying him off. So, you know, I watched it. I was watching it live and I felt like, oh, well, kind of feel bad for that guy, right? Like, that stinks. They go to the post game press conference, they asked Danny Hurley about that guy, and they say, what do you think about. What do you say to him when you lost did you see his comment?

Drew Franklin (7:17)

Did not.

Matt Jones (7:18)

He goes, I said, I'm going to say to him what I said to people who wondered if I was okay after the loss in Mali. I'm going to go home and take my two championship rings tonight and play with them. That's what I would tell him to do because he was on those teams. Go home, take your two championship rings off and just play with them. Do you like that response from a coach?

Drew Franklin (7:39)

Yeah, I do not. I think you don't. I. I mean, it's kind of funny, but at the same time you got to be, well, no, I'm gonna.

Matt Jones (7:49)

I kind of thought. Shannon, I thought it was a great response. I like it. Yeah, it was.

Drew Franklin (7:53)

I thought it was like, remember national champion?

Matt Jones (7:55)

Yeah, it' game. Yeah. You lost this game, but you're a national champion. You've won back to back titles. Don't worry about it. I thought Danny Hurley might be a jerk, but I actually thought that was a great answer.

Shannon the Dude (8:07)

I didn't know if this was going to be in your book of topics, but I even wrote down in my own notes and put this on our message board. I wrote about a rare Dan Hurley win because I thought that was awesome. I mean, you said it. He said, get your rings out, play with them and get ready for Georgetown. Basically saying, forget those two free throws. You've been at UConn for two years and you've won two championships. Move on.

Caller (8:25)

It's a good thing. His coach was, was Hurley and not Mick Cron win after what he said the other day?

Matt Jones (8:31)

A little bit. But I, but I just thought that, like, you talk about uplifting your guys. Yeah, right. Like, because it was. They lost. If he makes those free throws, they win. And they were bricks and they were. And he missed them. And so they lost. I mean, the game was literally on him. And I thought you couldn't handle that better if you were a coach.

Drew Franklin (8:49)

I, I'm not totally saying I don't like it. It's a good response. I, I thought he would be more supportive of his guy just in that public setting, but he was supportive. I thought, like, man, he's a, he's a great guy. He's one of my favorite people of all time. You know, really talk him up. That's what I thought.

Matt Jones (9:03)

He maybe wasn't one of his favorite people of all time.

Shannon the Dude (9:05)

He was kind of saying, he's saying he's a two time champion. Two years. Like what's, you know, one little bad night against.

Matt Jones (9:12)

I loved it. And I thought, man, if you're that dude, you got to love that. And if I was him, I don't know what he means. Shannon, by playing with the rings, I don't know what that means. Like just sort of putting it in.

Caller (9:21)

Your hands and just roll it around in your hand.

Matt Jones (9:23)

Just roll it.

Caller (9:24)

And remember that you're a two time rem. A two time champion. I think that's his point.

Matt Jones (9:28)

I thought that was a good thing for Danny to say. Who's up first?

Caller (9:31)

Let's go to Richard.

Matt Jones (9:32)

Richard, go ahead, rest. Richard.

Richard (9:35)

Hey guys, this is Richard from down in Hopkinsville. Have a question and I would love to hear your response to this. Trent Noah, who is a player obviously on Kentucky's team that seems to demonstrate a lot more physicality and ability to shoot than some of the kids that are on the floor. And I was just curious is with him being a scholarship player why he is not seeing the floor much more than he already is. And I would love to hear your comments.

Matt Jones (10:06)

Well, I mean, again though, like, don't you think when you say he's a scholarship player, We've always had scholarship players that don't play. Would you agree with that? I would, yeah. So, I mean, he doesn't play because Mark doesn't think he's one of the best players to play Now. He's played a little bit, but I think he believes that he's not as good. And I think the reason he believes that is because mostly defensively, but also, you know, he's just, he's a freshman and I don't think he. The rest of these guys on this team are like 23 years old and I just think he's not, he believes they're not quite as. He's not quite as advanced as they are now.

Richard (10:52)

I would, I would agree with that. When you're looking at your senior players and your graduates and those kind of guys that are playing, you've got Colin Candler and you got Travis Perry, who, who both are going to be great players, but they're a little weak defensively right now. And I just think Trent Noah is much more physical. He's a bigger kid and I would, I would just like to see him play more. No criticism of Coach Pope. I love Coach Pope and. But I appreciate you taking my call and appreciate your comment.

Matt Jones (11:27)

Yeah. So, I mean, I do think Trent Noah, I mean, Travis Perry's a perfect example of a guy who has gotten significantly more comfortable and significantly better. And like, will he be in the rotation, I think until Kirk Risa comes back he's going to get moments every game. Trent, there'll be games where he plays but I just think that there's just an overall belief. This SEC is so physical and I'm not sure if he right now can take that physicality.

Shannon the Dude (11:56)

Yeah, we're all rooting for Trent. I think we all know this is the. The Kentucky fans won their boy every game in Rupp Arena. We're hearing put in Trent and that's fun but like I said, there's a reason he's so far down the rotation. Jack Givens said he's doing everything right in practice. He's just behind guys that have so much more experience. Same with Travis Perry. He's just gotten in recently because of the injury and they're thin at that position. They kind of lucked into an opportunity there. But as far as playing those guys significantly right now I think they're playing just as much as they need to. I'm so happy that much in the non conference.

Matt Jones (12:29)

Yes, I think they're playing. I agree with you. I think they're. I mean look like Colin Chandler came in in that last game and I thought he didn't look. No offense to him. I thought he didn't look like he could be out there. He kind of got. He just kind of looked lost and he played a couple minutes and then that was that. When Travis Perry's come in, he's looked like he can be out there some and these other guys, they just have to have those moments.

Drew Franklin (12:51)

I'm. We're all super happy. Trent knows on this team and I think he's eventually at some point gonna be a really good player here. Let him develop a little bit. Let him get. I will say this dude doesn't miss it. Rough arena when he's shooting at rough marina, it's going down.

Matt Jones (13:03)

Who's up next?

Caller (13:04)

Let's go to Boyce.

Matt Jones (13:05)

Boyce, how are you boys? 8, 5, 9. Hang on boys, hang on. 859-2-80. 2287 got a couple open lines. Go ahead boys.

Kb (13:15)

Ryan, I was wondering with our starting.

Matt Jones (13:20)

With our starting center, our backup center and the two. And the two forwards, they're going to have to. They're going to have to play great us to block shots.

Kb (13:33)

I think our defense haven't been that.

Matt Jones (13:36)

Good and we're going to have to be more aggressive blocking shots and I don't think we're having the same problem as what we did last year. I don't know. We got to get more aggressive and.

Kb (13:50)

More toughness to block and block and shot.

Matt Jones (13:53)

Right. So Ryan Lemon, he asked you that. I appreciate the call.

Drew Franklin (13:56)

I know Boyce is big on rim protectors and trying to get our bigs to play a little better. Blocking shots is not our issue. It's rebounding. That's the issue with our bigs right now.

Matt Jones (14:04)

I think since the Gonzaga game, I've actually think we've been pretty good at guarding the first shot. Right. I think in the. Well, actually since Ohio State, we didn't do a great job that against Ohio State. But in the SEC play, at least in the Florida and the Georgia game, I thought we've guarded the first shot about as well as we can. Where we've struggled is we just. We can't get the rebound and we cannot stop. I mean, we. Georgia took a lot of the shots we wanted them to take. We just. We bailed about with fouls, whether real or fake, and they got rebounds.

Shannon the Dude (14:41)

And with the. With the blocks. I know we don't have Nerlen's Noel out there, but considering what they lack a little bit athletically there, I think they're like top 30 in blocks per game. It's not that bad. I mean, they don't have a true rim protector. Like, we've seen many years of the Cal era, but I feel like they're doing all right.

Matt Jones (14:58)

You also wonder if Kobe Bray hits those three threes that rattle in and out. Are we even having this conversation?

Drew Franklin (15:04)

Good point.

Shannon the Dude (15:04)

And if they don't bank in, you know, if they.

Matt Jones (15:06)

I mean, there. There is a part of basketball that is a little bit of, do you make shots or not?

Shannon the Dude (15:13)

Well, Pope actually gave a very great explanation last night on his show about assists because we're. I'm guilty of it. I wrote a whole post about it about how that was only the second time they had more turnovers and assists. He said, we don't look at assists because, you know, sometimes shots doesn't go in. Sometimes the guys forces and the shots the guys made were bad shots. It's just random. He was talking about the opportunities to have an assist and that so much of the reason they weren't getting assists at Georgia was just simply because the ball wasn't going in. They shot poorly. So we think so much and played up, you know, that they weren't sharing the ball. He's like, we were. We just weren't hitting shots.

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Matt Jones (18:44)

Hey, guys, this is Matt Jones, Drew Franklin from the Fade this podcast. We got a great episode coming up. Picks in all the sports. Football, basketball, we do them all. But here's a preview of this week's episode.

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Matt Jones (19:17)

We'll.

Shannon the Dude (19:17)

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Matt Jones (19:25)

And this episode was brought to you in partnership with DraftKings. To hear more, listen and subscribe to Fade this on iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcast. Oh, it's true. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-28022. There you go. Look at that wild crowd here at the KS Bar & Grill this morning. Got a guy who came from Harrison county said you're the most popular person in Harrison County.

Drew Franklin (19:53)

That's Buddy Reneker. Been friends of his since I moved here at in Lexington. We started covering.

Matt Jones (19:58)

Are you the most popular person in Harrison County?

Drew Franklin (20:00)

Of course not. No.

Matt Jones (20:02)

Is he really Matt Whitaker? Yeah. Mack Whitaker.

Drew Franklin (20:06)

Yeah. Chris Snow Peck.

Matt Jones (20:08)

I remember Chris Snowpeck. Played baseball. Played for the White Sox organization. Right?

Drew Franklin (20:13)

Yeah. I could sit here and probably still recite the entire starting lineup to that state championship Harrison county baseball team.

Matt Jones (20:19)

Was that what, 90?

Drew Franklin (20:21)

97? 98.

Matt Jones (20:22)

97, 98. All right. I, you know, I have a lot of Harrison county connections over the year. The Cynthiana Democrat. Was that the name of the newspaper? Yes, Cynthia, the Cynthiana Democrat. That's right. Binkies went to church right there next to Bikini.

Drew Franklin (20:41)

Well, your mom was, she was a.

Matt Jones (20:43)

I lived in Cynthiana because you were the attorney there.

Drew Franklin (20:46)

Is that.

Matt Jones (20:46)

What's the one? Cynthia? No, back then they all were. They've just all flipped. But back then they always know I was, I lived in Cynthia when I was like, you know, three to five or something like that.

Drew Franklin (20:57)

Yeah. And that's because your mom was an attorney there.

Matt Jones (20:59)

City attorney, my mom was. Worked for Jack Keith in Cynthian for a few years. 859280, 2287. Notre Dame and Penn State tonight in the Orange Bowl. Who you got?

Drew Franklin (21:13)

I'm going to go Notre Dame. I mean, I did watch that Northern Illinois loss and saw them lose at home and thought to myself, this is not going to be their year. And then I saw them beat Indiana. I've seen Notre Dame three times. Indiana. Then this last game, they just destroyed Georgia. I'm taking Notre Dame.

Matt Jones (21:27)

See, it's bad because I'm Drew. I think that James Franklin is too handsome. Not James Franklin. The other guy. Not James Franklin. Sounds like something. No, I don't think James Franklin, but the other guy's handsome.

Shannon the Dude (21:44)

Marcus Freeman.

Matt Jones (21:45)

Marcus Freeman. Women love Marcus Freeman. Like, it's all Marcus Freeman all the time. And it makes me want to root against him because, of course, I think James Franklin does.

Drew Franklin (21:55)

You don't think James Franklin's handsome.

Matt Jones (21:57)

But what I don't understand about Notre Dame, they lost to Northern Illinois. It's not just like they lost to some random team. They lost to a team that didn't Northern illinois finish, like 6 and 6. Like they weren't even good. And now they have a chance to play for the national championship.

Shannon the Dude (22:12)

It's crazy, but since that game, they've been wolfing people. I had them big to beat, George. I'm on them tonight, win or lose, whoever wins this one. It's crazy to me that playing for the national championship can be a team that lost to an FCS team or James Franklin, the sport of college football. Having someone play for a championship like that is nuts. But I think Franklin won't get it done and Irish win.

Matt Jones (22:32)

There's got to be part of us that also roots for Notre Dame. Because if there are two Big Ten teams in the SC in the national championship, the SEC will, like, the fans.

Drew Franklin (22:42)

Will never recover the fan bases of all the SEC teams. Their heads will explode. If it's Ohio State and Penn State in the championship game, who hates that.

Shannon the Dude (22:51)

More, SEC or Michigan?

Matt Jones (22:53)

But Michigan's always. Michigan is always going to have. If Ohio State wins, Michigan's going to be able to say, but we beat you on your home field. I mean, I think there's a part of Michigan that would almost wouldn't mind it necessarily.

Shannon the Dude (23:05)

They have their ring, recent rings. They're all right.

Matt Jones (23:07)

Yeah. So who are you taking? I mean, I think Notre Dame wins. I think Notre Dame wins. I'm gonna pick Notre Dame.

Drew Franklin (23:16)

Notre Dame.

Shannon the Dude (23:16)

I thought the spread was surprisingly low. I got Notre Dame what about you? Love touchdowns.

Caller (23:20)

Yeah, I agree with you, Matt. I'm going Notre Dame, they're a one and a half point favorite.

Matt Jones (23:23)

Franklin won a big time game like ever.

Shannon the Dude (23:28)

Even in the playoffs.

Matt Jones (23:29)

I mean SMU and Boise. And smu. I mean, you know, it's Boise and smu. Is that really.

Drew Franklin (23:37)

Yeah, they had a good draw.

Matt Jones (23:39)

That's a pretty good draw. So I'm going to take Notre Dame. Who's next?

Caller (23:42)

Let's go to. Doing good.

Matt Jones (23:43)

Doing good. How are you guys?

Unknown Caller (23:47)

I'm doing good. I hope you guys are doing well.

Matt Jones (23:50)

I'm doing well.

Unknown Caller (23:52)

Great. I got a quick fact check. Snowpack actually played graduated in 89, not in the 90s. And I know because that Harrison county team was amazing. They beat the second best team in the state, which is who I played for, which was Montgomery county in 88 and 89. And hats off to them. That was a great organization there. But anyway, wanted to talk real quick about how strong the SEC is. I think your top four teams ranked at the end of the season are going to be some form of like Duke, Iowa State, Marquette and then probably Gonzaga. Just because SEC is going to beat up. Beat up on each other. I think 5 through 25, we're going to have 12 ranked SEC teams. Think we send 13 of the SEC tournament. Which means if I'm right, 40% of your first round NCAA games, well, will involve an SEC team since they can't play each other. And then I think they'll screw us somehow when we have to have two of our best teams play against.

Matt Jones (24:56)

I don't understand your math. Wait a minute. You think, you think 40% of. If we have. There are 32 first round games. So you're saying.

Unknown Caller (25:05)

And if we have 13 teams.

Matt Jones (25:07)

13 in. I got you. Okay. Yeah, I guess I had. I guess you're right about that. You know, first of all, I don't think Gonzaga will be a 1 seed because they don't have any good wins and they're not going to be able to get any good wins the rest of the year.

Unknown Caller (25:18)

I wasn't saying. I wasn't saying seed. I think the top four ranked AP teams because they'll go more by the.

Matt Jones (25:23)

Yeah, they might be. You're right. They may be ranked. They may be right because they won't lose any games. I, I think the one seeds. If you were guessing the one seeds. I think Tennessee and Auburn and Duke are almost certain to be one seeds. And then you might be right about Marquette. We'll see how they do. Maybe Iowa State. Yeah, but where do you think we finish as a seed, by the way? Appreciate the call. As if you had to guess right now.

Drew Franklin (25:46)

If I had to guess right now, I'd say a three or a four. I'm gonna say three.

Matt Jones (25:51)

You think we stay at three?

Drew Franklin (25:52)

I'm gonna go ahead and go three.

Matt Jones (25:52)

I'm gonna say I think we're gonna end up being a 4. Might even slip to a 5, because I think we're gonna take a bunch of losses just by the nature of how this goes. What about you?

Shannon the Dude (26:03)

Kind of the same. Lenardi had him as a 2. Just recently slid him down to 3. We're going to lose SEC games, and I think that puts you at a four, maybe five. Probably four.

Matt Jones (26:12)

Is there any good beating Duke and get out, though? There's no team in the tournament. I'm really scared of.

Drew Franklin (26:18)

True.

Matt Jones (26:19)

Right.

Shannon the Dude (26:19)

Saying the hard teams, once we're playing in January and February with at least the matchup and the physicality, I mean.

Matt Jones (26:24)

If you look at the best teams out of the sec, we've already beaten Duke. Whoa. What in the world was that?

Drew Franklin (26:30)

Ice or something?

Shannon the Dude (26:32)

Ice probably just fell onto the roof.

Matt Jones (26:34)

Wow. That is. Did that come through that roof?

Drew Franklin (26:38)

It fell on our metal roof out there.

Matt Jones (26:40)

Wow.

Shannon the Dude (26:41)

Hopefully it wasn't the guys that went.

Matt Jones (26:43)

Through the little thing. Yeah, the. Wow. Man, that's a lot of ice. Yeah. But like, you look at the best teams that are not in the sec. We've beaten Duke, we've beaten Gonzaga. Not really scared. Iowa State. Not really scared of Marquette. I mean, I feel like once you get through this SEC gauntlet, you're going to be ready for whoever you play.

Drew Franklin (27:03)

You're going to play every team. You're going to know going into the N what you're up against, because you're going to already face them once before you get to the tournament.

Matt Jones (27:09)

Did. Don't answer this. Drew, who are the two teams in the NBA with the best record? Ryan?

Drew Franklin (27:16)

I'll say Oklahoma City Thunder.

Matt Jones (27:18)

Okay.

Drew Franklin (27:19)

And the other one I'll say is. It's a good question. Let me think. No, I'm gonna get this. I'm gonna say the Houston Rockets.

Matt Jones (27:28)

No. You want to take another guess? Either.

Drew Franklin (27:30)

Are either one of them right?

Matt Jones (27:31)

Oklahoma's right. You know the other one.

Drew Franklin (27:34)

I should know this.

Matt Jones (27:36)

I don't think he's gonna get it.

Drew Franklin (27:37)

Minnesota?

Matt Jones (27:38)

No, not even close. We'll try again.

Shannon the Dude (27:40)

They haven't been that good lately. Well, before this year.

Drew Franklin (27:46)

Boston, they won.

Matt Jones (27:48)

The title last year. So the hint. The hint that you just got that they haven't been good lately. Probably should have not led you to guess the team that won the title last year.

Drew Franklin (27:56)

So who's the other one besides the.

Matt Jones (27:58)

Cleveland.

Drew Franklin (27:59)

Cleveland. I would have guessed every team before, I guess Cleveland.

Matt Jones (28:02)

So Cleveland and the Thunder played last night. The two best records.

Drew Franklin (28:05)

Okay.

Matt Jones (28:06)

I think Cleveland won. Cleveland is 32 and 4.

Drew Franklin (28:11)

Wow.

Matt Jones (28:11)

Are you. Are you surprised about that?

Drew Franklin (28:13)

I don't even know anybody who's gonna ask you.

Matt Jones (28:15)

Can you name a player?

Drew Franklin (28:16)

No. Donovan Mitchell.

Matt Jones (28:18)

Yes. There you go. There's one.

Caller (28:20)

Darius Garland.

Matt Jones (28:21)

Darius Garland, former Vandy guy.

Drew Franklin (28:23)

Anyone else you know LeBron James.

Matt Jones (28:26)

LeBron James does not play for him anymore. But do you. Are you surprised that it is very Cleveland. This team we don't know anything about is like that?

Shannon the Dude (28:34)

Yeah. I mean, they had a lot of draft picks recently, clearly, because they've been so bad. And really a lot of those guys panned out. Donovan. And they're not just good, they're like historically good at this point. This could be one of the best regular seasons.

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They are very, very good. We're going to take a break and be right back here at KS Bar Grill, 859-280-2287. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call TJ.

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Caller (28:59)

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Matt Jones (29:04)

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the KS Bar and Grill. Yeah, we are tomorrow at Gray Line station for the UK Bourbon Nil release, which should be very exciting. Are you ready for that?

Drew Franklin (29:21)

I am ready for it because, you know, I've already tasted it. I was helped select it, so I feel like I wear a vip.

Matt Jones (29:26)

You didn't help select it. You have to stop saying they didn't. They didn't ask you which one it was going to be and then that's the one they got. You say that with such confidence, but I don't think that happened.

Shannon the Dude (29:35)

We voted right there in a room. There's about eight or nine of us.

Drew Franklin (29:37)

Yes.

Shannon the Dude (29:38)

Ron and I both voted for number two. Number two. One.

Matt Jones (29:41)

Yes.

Drew Franklin (29:41)

What one? One we voted for was one.

Matt Jones (29:43)

At one one person writes. Matt, I believe Trent Noah will end up being the best player on this team before he leaves Kentucky. Do you agree with that?

Drew Franklin (29:54)

I think Trent knows gonna be very, very good. The fact that he's going to be the best player may be a little bit of a stretch just because he's just not as athletic as some of the guys that are coming in, but I do think he's gonna be really really good here.

Matt Jones (30:03)

And Pope is recruiting the best players in the country. That's one of the things you got to remember. I mean, this is a unique group because of the situation of coming in late and getting these guys. We're going to be recruiting the top of the top guys coming forward. So I don't. I don't agree with that, but I do think he can be a very important player over the course of this time.

Shannon the Dude (30:25)

Yeah, he's gonna play a lot of basketball in that uniform, and we're gonna be excited to watch all of it. But he will be recruited over every year, as every player should be recruited over every year. You want to go out and get the best available now with the portal. I mean, there's so many options to go out and get guys. I think Pope will have. Will have every year adding someone.

Matt Jones (30:40)

What do you think the SEC tournament is going to be like this year? 16. I mean, wow, 16 game or 16 teams. 15 games. You're going to have four games on Wednesday, four on Thursday, four on Friday, two on Saturday, one on Sunday. You're going to have teams that are really good playing on Wednesday. Yes. So, like, just look at. Right. Let's just take the standings as they were now. So right now you got. Let's just say Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Texas A and M. Let's say. Let's put us in that group in Florida. That means playing on Wednesday would be like Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas.

Drew Franklin (31:24)

You know, the Missouri team that beat Kansas.

Matt Jones (31:27)

Yes. I mean, like, that would be great teams playing on Wednesday. The. And then you look at what Nashville. I've got to think Texas, especially if they're decent, their fans are going to come because it's the first one and it's in Nashville. I believe the four best home fan bases in the SEC are Tennessee or Kentucky, Tennessee, Auburn, and Alabama, who may end up being the four best teams in the league. All those teams are very close to driving to Nashville. It's going to be an insane scene in Nashville for the SEC tournament.

Drew Franklin (32:02)

We should probably book our Airbnb today because the prices and the first of all, we.

Matt Jones (32:07)

You. I'm the one that does.

Drew Franklin (32:08)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (32:08)

You don't end up booking anything.

Drew Franklin (32:09)

I just kind of pat you on the back, say, thanks, man.

Matt Jones (32:12)

Let's not act like you do any of that.

Drew Franklin (32:14)

But Wednesday, you're talking about there's going to be an NCAA tournament team playing on Wednesday, and there's going to be.

Matt Jones (32:20)

Multiple NCAA tournament teams playing on Wednesday. And then I think you can make an argument that those games on Thursday and Friday, especially Friday, you could, if you could make an argument that that Friday of games when the top teams are playing might be like the best Friday of basketball ever in the sec. Like in terms of all. Because I don't care who wins the games, those are going to be competitive Friday games.

Shannon the Dude (32:50)

Of course, it's just we're so used to kind of laughing at the Wednesday game, even though it got better in recent years. But Wednesday is going to be a gauntlet. Like, are we going to go do a Wednesday show and just already be there? Because it starts there's going to be good basketball.

Matt Jones (33:04)

You know, I don't want to say, but we might be in it. I mean, we might.

Drew Franklin (33:08)

It's not crazy.

Matt Jones (33:09)

I mean, there's nothing crazy. Like we could still be. We could still be a dangerous tournament team playing on Wednesday in the SEC tournament.

Drew Franklin (33:20)

Yeah, I think Drew said the other day, Ken Palm has Kentucky 9 and 9 to finish the SEC. That would put us probably on Wednesday.

Matt Jones (33:26)

Probably right there on the border of playing on Wednesday.

Shannon the Dude (33:29)

I did this exercise earlier in the week. Now it's changed because there was games last night, but earlier in the week, just with the analytics, Kentucky was the 7 seed playing the first Thursday night session against the Georgia LSU winner. That's just based on predicting the year out with Ken Palms Analytics. So that had Kentucky's the seven.

Matt Jones (33:47)

You feel like that's where it ends up.

Shannon the Dude (33:49)

No. And those numbers can be a little wonky. That's why I hate reference them so much. But I can just show you what's possible. Playing that Thursday night game as the 7 seed. Then you go in, you got the 2, and then, you know, it goes from there.

Matt Jones (33:59)

One person writes, matt, I have a friend who lives in Japan. There's a Japanese wrestling site that is the biggest wrestling site in Japan and Shannon the dude was on the COVID of it the other day. It was a picture of jbl, Doug Basham and Shannon with their arms in the air. I told my friend that was Japanese, I knew that guy. And he asked if he could get his autograph. Stop it.

Caller (34:29)

Sure, yeah. You get an autograph from me. You know, three legends in the ring there.

Matt Jones (34:33)

Big in Japan.

Caller (34:34)

Three, Three champions. Three legends. Jbl, Doug Basham, Shannon the dude. I mean, that's perfect.

Drew Franklin (34:41)

They, they love people who cheat and are scared and run around the ring all the time. That's what they like. So that's why they like Shannon.

Matt Jones (34:46)

Yeah, Shannon, it is so funny. Can I just tell you, like when I walk backstage of the wrestling. Like all those people, like when I walk backstage, they're all massive. Like the littlest people are all insanely massive. And then in walks.

Caller (35:02)

No, you haven't seen me with my shirt off.

Matt Jones (35:04)

You. Well, I think you're actually probably the form fitting. Black, I think is a good look for you back there. But, but like he walks in and it's like, it is such a funny discrepancy in, in size in the, in the wrestling locker room.

Caller (35:19)

I just wonder, has anyone managed more champions than me in wrestling?

Matt Jones (35:24)

You or Bobby the Brady?

Caller (35:26)

That's pretty much it. Larry from Paducah.

Matt Jones (35:28)

Larry from Paducah. How are you?

Richard (35:31)

I'm good. I got a chance to go to the Georgia game and I got to tell you, I've never seen a crowd into the game like they were. And if, you know, and I assume we, you know, we go all across the south against that kind of crowd where skill level of the players is about the same. I mean, it's going to. It's going to be a rough season. And until we can develop kind of an attitude that we handle these guys, we'll have our hands full. I mean, I, like I said, I've never seen a crowd that enthusiastic for the entire game.

Matt Jones (36:03)

Do we have. Appreciate the call, Larry. Do we have dog like we talked about? We talked about this over this. Do we have road dogs? Do we have dudes who will look at that road crowd and say, bring it on, I'm a road dog. Do you think we have that?

Shannon the Dude (36:16)

If we do, they did not go to Clemson or Georgia, I'll say that much. They need to dig deep and find their road dog. Even Andrew Carr said in that postgame radio interview after the Georgia game, we got to start being nasty. So, no, we were dogs right now.

Matt Jones (36:30)

You and I were at that game at Gonzaga. All three of us were. All four of us were. There were moments that crowd went crazy and our guys stepped up. Now that was a big arena, though. Do you think we'll be able to do it in these smaller gyms?

Drew Franklin (36:47)

I think our one dog is sitting on the bench in a boot. I think he's the one guy that could help in a situation like that.

Matt Jones (36:53)

Do you think he's really not having him has hurt us?

Drew Franklin (36:56)

I think it definitely has hurt us. And our big guys don't. I just don't think they have it in them. Amari and Brandon and Jackson and Carr. I just don't see them being the dog that we need them to be.

Shannon the Dude (37:09)

We were all excited for Kerr to be in these road atmospheres. So I don't know what it would mean for wins and losses. Probably nothing. But from an entertainment standpoint, we are being robbed of Curry.

Matt Jones (37:18)

Did you see Otaga on the free throw line? Yeah, it would have been better if we had won, but Otega's on the free throw line shooting a free throw and somebody's talking trash to him. And Otega looks at him and goes, this is your Super Bowl. Which is. Was a cool thing to say. Now it's cooler if we win the game. But. But they. I do think these guys have to understand, like, you don't get any plays off and you have to hit the shot and look at the crowd and tell them to shut up. Like you've got to. The best. Kentucky teams over the years have had that guy. They've had the guy who wants to rip the heart out of the crowd. And we just have to see if we. I don't know if any of these guys are like that.

Drew Franklin (37:58)

I think Lamont and Otega have got a little bit in them. Especially, you know, they were trying to get some steals, trying to get Kentucky back in at late, but I don't know if there's another one on the team that can go be that person.

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Drew Franklin (39:04)

Oh, yeah.

Shannon the Dude (39:05)

It sounds like Ryan knows. Yeah. Here's a dog with you.

Matt Jones (39:08)

Wait a minute. You already know. You've been there. I was about to say, is this something people knew about that? I just.

Drew Franklin (39:14)

Oh, I think this is a new thing they're starting. That's why they're buying this advertising.

Matt Jones (39:18)

Okay, so for those of you with dogs, is it just dogs or do.

Shannon the Dude (39:22)

They have dog gets official a welcome packet for joining the club. UK branded accessories. Looks like a nice scarf.

Drew Franklin (39:29)

Little scarf.

Matt Jones (39:30)

So they have dogs.

Drew Franklin (39:31)

A little bandana.

Shannon the Dude (39:33)

Excuse me, that's not a scarf.

Matt Jones (39:33)

Oh my goodness. Wow, look at that.

Shannon the Dude (39:36)

Look at that. Good boy.

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Shannon the Dude (39:42)

Oh, Ryan Lemon is on bbnpets.com how about that?

Matt Jones (39:45)

Look, there he is.

Caller (39:47)

So does he have a scarf on?

Matt Jones (39:49)

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Drew Franklin (40:02)

I gotta ask you about that script. Did they write that in there as a dog lover like they did?

Matt Jones (40:07)

Maybe they didn't know it was for me when they said it, but they did. Bbnpets.com we'll take a break. Be right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Matt Jones (43:09)

Final segment here, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. Everybody stay warm tonight. So you say the snow supposed to start when?

Drew Franklin (43:18)

I think it's overnight. Supposed to start overnight. I don't know, like maybe 4am or something. Like I'm just. I don't know for sure. But it's supposed to start over.

Matt Jones (43:24)

You have any basis for this?

Drew Franklin (43:26)

I heard Jim Caldwell this morning on the radio.

Matt Jones (43:29)

Okay.

Drew Franklin (43:29)

And we believe.

Matt Jones (43:30)

He wouldn't lie to us.

Shannon the Dude (43:31)

He wouldn't lie. He's got me blocked. I don't know.

Matt Jones (43:34)

I love that he's got you blocked. I want to know what you did.

Shannon the Dude (43:38)

A lot of investigative research. Did I say there's no reference even mentioning Jim Car.

Matt Jones (43:42)

I think he must have blocked you when he was at wymt. Were you trashing the WYMT meteorologist at some point?

Shannon the Dude (43:49)

Wymt? I've called a basketball game for wymt.

Drew Franklin (43:53)

It's one of the craziest things. Like. Like who? Somebody's got Shannon blocked. It's crazy.

Matt Jones (43:58)

Rosie O'Donnell Caldwell is my Rosie ODonnell. Harab Alob has me blocked. You've got Jim Caldwell and you've got Rosie O'Donnell. Pete Thamel's had me blocked since DeMarcus.

Shannon the Dude (44:08)

Cousins threatening me too, I think. I'm not saying we deserve that one, but we understand.

Matt Jones (44:13)

To be quite frank with you, we used to call him. Can I say what we used to call him?

Caller (44:20)

Say it all the time.

Drew Franklin (44:22)

That's. That's questionable.

Matt Jones (44:24)

We did used to Say it all the time. Yeah. Family and then a part of a foot.

Shannon the Dude (44:29)

Okay. I actually had no memory of that.

Matt Jones (44:31)

I do.

Drew Franklin (44:32)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (44:32)

Fran for Sheila, by the way, Shannon, for no reason, just called me out yesterday, got me community noted on Twitter.

Caller (44:39)

What?

Matt Jones (44:41)

Yeah. Did you see this? No. What? Why? Well, first of all, I don't. I don't. Who does community notes? Who gets to decide when you're right or wrong?

Shannon the Dude (44:50)

I've wondered that. What community is, like, solving all these.

Matt Jones (44:53)

Because if so, if anybody can do it, I'm just gonna community note everyone. But, like, you know, I had that video of the guy, and I said it was a walk.

Caller (45:01)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (45:02)

Right. When he slid on the floor.

Drew Franklin (45:03)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (45:04)

Okay, so apparently the rule is you can slide, but you can't flip over. Now, I would argue if you watch the video, he flipped over.

Shannon the Dude (45:11)

He does. He turns a little.

Matt Jones (45:12)

He catches it, then falls on his back and flips. Walk.

Drew Franklin (45:17)

Yep.

Matt Jones (45:17)

So I put up this video that just says, this is a walk, Fran, for Schiller, who's supposed to be an ESPN colleague. Fran, I've had you on the air many times. I don't make fun of the fact that you always wear a suit that's too large for you. Like, I don't say any of that stuff.

Shannon the Dude (45:33)

You would never say that.

Matt Jones (45:34)

I would never say such a thing. What are you laughing at, ma'am? Well, I mean, I used to wear bad suit. Like, I used to wear suits that were too large, too. And then it's just. It happens. But Fran, for Schiller retweets it and says, I'm not trying to pick on Matt, but he needs to know the rules, blah, blah, blah, blah. Next thing I know, I'm getting community noted and somebody. And. And the Twitter official community note basically says, this isn't a walk. Well, first of all, who gets to decide that?

Shannon the Dude (46:03)

Like.

Matt Jones (46:04)

Like, how did they get to decide that that's not a walk. I still think it's a walk. I don't care what that stupid note says.

Shannon the Dude (46:11)

What I'm learning right now is Fran Frischol's got a lot of power on Twitter. If he just.

Matt Jones (46:14)

So. So can I just. Shannon, every time somebody complains about a call, get them community noted. No, it was the wrong call. It was the right call.

Caller (46:21)

You should be able to call Fran out for some of the stuff that he said in the past.

Matt Jones (46:24)

Yeah.

Caller (46:25)

Guarantee he's not correct in everything that he says.

Matt Jones (46:27)

So I just. So you know, I don't even know how one does that. But the next time, Fran, for Shella says something I don't like. Community noted.

Drew Franklin (46:34)

There you go. Go for it.

Shannon the Dude (46:36)

His last tweet, he says, jason kid will be a head coach soon. I'm going to say, no, he's not. This is crap.

Matt Jones (46:40)

Yeah.

Shannon the Dude (46:41)

Community note.

Matt Jones (46:41)

No, he will note. No, he will not be a head coach.

Shannon the Dude (46:46)

Why are you lying on Twitter, friend?

Matt Jones (46:47)

Why you lied, friend?

Shannon the Dude (46:49)

I have wondered that. How do you get the power? Because you'll see it on big tweets. It's like, well, how do I know the community notes, right?

Matt Jones (46:55)

That's what got that one dude so working up at me as he goes. I said, who's community noting this? And they were like. I was like, I. I made a joke, like, elon must be just commuting. And the guy was like, elon does not participate in the community notes. And I go, how do you know? Like, like. And he said. Because he said. And I'm like, did he? Community note.

Shannon the Dude (47:17)

A community note is that there were.

Matt Jones (47:18)

A lot of community notes. I just can't believe they would Community note me saying, the Georgia guy walked. Because he walked. That was a walk.

Drew Franklin (47:25)

It thought it was obvious to everybody. That was.

Matt Jones (47:27)

Did he not flip over? He flipped over.

Drew Franklin (47:30)

I thought it was a travel.

Matt Jones (47:32)

I did, too. Who's next?

Caller (47:33)

Kb.

Matt Jones (47:34)

Kb. What's up?

Kb (47:38)

Hey, man. How y'all doing?

Matt Jones (47:39)

Doing good. What's up?

Kb (47:42)

No, I just got one comment. One question. First comment regarding your previous comments about Cal and being sorry for him, Man, I don't have a single iota of sympathy for that dude. Like, Shannon said, he made his bed. He's got to sleep in it now. So I'm not feeling bad for him at all. And I was glad to see him go for sure.

Matt Jones (48:00)

But do you ever let me, you.

Kb (48:01)

Know, he didn't adapt to the game.

Matt Jones (48:02)

Do you ever feel sorry for people, though, who. Even if they make a decision that is bad, do you ever go, well, yeah, I mean, they made the decision, but still you feel bad for.

Kb (48:16)

Absolutely, man. I think that, you know, that's.

Matt Jones (48:18)

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Drew Franklin (48:20)

Yeah.

Kb (48:20)

I mean, I think, you know, everybody makes a bad decision. Yeah, I get it. But, you know, honestly with him and, like, what Shannon was saying, like, dudes living a cushy life. But yeah, man, like, I was glad to see him go and he made his bed. You know, he's the one who broke the contract and all that good stuff. You know more about it than I do. But, yeah, I mean, people make. I mean, honestly, we all make bad decisions at some point in our life but his. I don't think it was the most terrible decision in the world in the grand scheme of things.

Matt Jones (48:48)

So I don't feel a lot of money. He's still getting a lot of money. I, I appreciate the call. I guess part of it is I know I, I know his ego and his ego when he's sitting there and seeing 20 people watch his post game show. That's got to eat at it does it has to. When he see, I mean imagine what it's like when he sees the Mark pope crowd.

Caller (49:08)

Maybe he doesn't need to have an ego. Maybe he needs an attitude adjustment.

Matt Jones (49:12)

Well, Shannon has no sympathy for anyone.

Caller (49:17)

Especially somebody with the T eagle test.

Matt Jones (49:19)

Listen, nobody's ever made a worse college basketball business decision than thinking Kentucky was going to like fall to his demands because he did. He thought Kentucky would come back and beg him to stay and they didn't. And then he got stuck at Arkansas and that's where he is now.

Drew Franklin (49:39)

So do you think after a couple, maybe losing seasons at Arkansas it's going to humble him a little bit?

Matt Jones (49:45)

No. But would you be shocked if he quit after this year?

Shannon the Dude (49:52)

I've said many, I don't think he's got but if the, if you set the line at three years, I'm under and put.

Matt Jones (49:59)

There's no way he goes beyond like next year. Maybe he thinks, all right, I gotta again, we'll see how they end up. Maybe they'll end up better. It's hard to see that. But maybe, but I don't think he's not got many years. Did you see Rick Patino basically say all these old coaches are quitting because now I'm coaching till they have to like roll me out of here.

Drew Franklin (50:17)

I believe that too. And he said that?

Shannon the Dude (50:19)

Yes, I saw Jamel Martinez went to a game and Patino shared it. When's the last time we've had a Jamel Martinez?

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Shannon the Dude (50:50)

Yeah, right off the loud and yeah.

Matt Jones (50:51)

If you, if you, you know, if the weather's bad, just walk.

Drew Franklin (50:56)

That'd be a long walk.

Shannon the Dude (50:57)

Depending where you live.

Matt Jones (50:58)

Yeah, I mean, in theory you could walk from anywhere. You might just have to start.

Drew Franklin (51:04)

Now you can snow ski to the show.

Matt Jones (51:05)

Hey, thank you guys very much for coming out. We will see you all later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Hey guys, as you know, I've been taking some time off drinking, but when.

Matt Jones (52:17)

I go out I want to be.

Drew Franklin (52:19)

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Matt Jones (52:28)

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Matt Jones (52:38)

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Shannon the Dude (52:52)

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