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Matt Jones
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Welcome, everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Monday, January 27th. I'm Matt Jones here where I am in New York and a beautiful day, I guess you guys are in Lexington. Ryan and Drew, is that right? In studio?
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Ryan Lemond
Yep, we're in studio in Lexington.
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Matt Jones
What kind of day do we have there? Because that's what most of Kentucky is experiencing.
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Ryan Lemond
I think it's one of the better days we've had since probably November. It's actually a nice day outside. Yeah, it looks nice.
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Matt Jones
Well, you can give us a shout on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. I love to hear your thoughts on Kentucky. Fans have been a sort of a topic of conversation with the game Saturday and what's coming up next Saturday. You can give a shout 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. In this edition sponsored by the TJ Smith Law Office. You call TJ he'll make them pay, I guess. Two big stories, obviously. The Cats lose to Vandy. A very disappointing loss to me 7469 in Nashville. And then of course, last night you got the two teams headed to the Super Bowl. The Eagles and the Chiefs will postpone that for a little while. Start with Kentucky. Drew, you were. You were. Well, no, neither one of you went to Nashville, right? I said you were Nashville. Yeah. You guys were not in Nashville. So you Were in Lexington. I sort of gave my initial take on the game on the post game show. Disappointed in the execution down the stretch. Kind of, you know, just for 10 minutes the first 10 minutes the second half I thought Kentucky played amazing. And then I thought for the other 30 minutes really a clunker and some poor effort and just frustration, I guess. Ryan, then Drew, I'll go to you before I go to the guy who, who won his Vanderbilt team. Shannon, what did you guys think of Saturday?
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Ryan Lemond
I kind of went with you had two kind of big takeaways. One, if this team's not going to score 70 points, are going to have a hard time beating anybody. I mean it's just so when they're struggling offensively, they're, they're, they're very vulnerable.
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Matt Jones
Four of our five losses haven't scored 70. That's amazing to me for a team that like at one, you know, second or third in the country in points.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, proof right there. Second thing was, man, turnovers killed them. They had a couple really costly turnovers late in the game that by Lamont Butler had a bad turnover late in the game that kind of cost him. But then the 13 turnovers in the first half had allowed Vanny to go on that big run. Was it 20 to 4 in that first half where Kentucky just looked really bad?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, they had what, 13 turnovers in the first half? Only four in the second half. But Drew, they felt really important. And you know, I remember one of the things Cal used to always talk about is turnovers behind the three point line because they often lead to layups or easy baskets and we ended up doing some of those there at the end as well.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed that one. It was the. I think the first half was the worst half of the season or they had 14 points at halftime. They just looked terrible when really I thought Vandy kind of played into UK style right away. I was surprised UK didn't play better in that first half. But then I was upset they tricked me because when they took the lead and they got up pretty big in the second half, I just took a sigh of relief and thought, well, this is over. Kentucky's got this. Write the story. Another bad first half. Collected data, figured out in the second, went on a run and won. But then I was shocked that they gave that away once they did get that second half lead and just a disappointing down the stretch.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, went from 14 down at halftime to seven up in the second half with, with eight minutes to go. I mean in a 12 minute stretch, they beat Vandy by 21. And if you do that, I mean, in most games, you're going to certainly win. But that also gives you a sense of how poorly they played. I mean, if you take away that run, basically going from up 14, or, excuse me, down 14 to up seven in the other 28 minutes of the game, Ryan, we lost by 26 points. Right. So if you take the 14 minutes, or, excuse me, the 20 minutes of the first half and the last eight minutes of the second half, we lost by 28 points. 14 points. I mean, we lost by 14 in the last eight minutes of the game. I mean, that's.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that.
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Matt Jones
That's really, really bad, Ryan, for a team. I don't care who you're playing, but certainly playing Bandy.
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Ryan Lemond
And I gotta admit, it felt like it at times Kentucky was getting beat that bad, like they were just getting pummeled, like getting beat 20 out of 20 points, most of the game, it just felt like even down 14, it shouldn't have been that close.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I kind of agree with you. So, you know, you made the point, Drew, about how at the beginning they were playing our style. I thought that too. And you had Edwards for Vandy get hot there at the beginning. Kind of kept them in the game. You know, the surprising part to me was down the stretch how poorly we executed. You know, they hit back to back three. To me, the key sequence of the game, absent the Butler turnover in the OA turnover, was when we got up seven, they came down, Drew, and hit a three that I think if they don't score on that possession, we win the game. They hit a three, then we come down, we get a good look. Butler has a layup under the basket, he misses it, it falls in Amari's hands, and Amari just drops the ball. Which man. I mean, I feel like he has hands of stone. He just dropped the ball. We go to a TV timeout, when they come out of the timeout, they get another three and it goes from seven to one. And that sequence, if they were to miss those shots, Butler makes that layup, or even if Amari had just catched, caught the ball, he had a dunk. If he caught it. I felt like that sequence was a huge one in the game.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah. Just like in many other of the losses, it just felt like Kentucky had this opportunity right in front of them and they didn't seize the moment. And on the other end, in this case, Vandy's hitting shots I don't think they normally hit. We saw another Banked in three. I think if there's another banked in three just stop the game and go home. Get on the plane someone.
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Matt Jones
Yeah guys on the every game show every single loss this year, every single loss is include a bank 10 3. Drew, that's just ridiculous.
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Voiceover Announcer
And late in the game to these guys credit but Vandy's big guys were hitting threes. When you've got a guy that wears the number 99 and he's hitting threes late in the game you're in trouble. But still they're all point guards.
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Matt Jones
Point guard hit a three.
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Voiceover Announcer
The fact that McLaughlin and Kerry I guess whether they end up hitting four together I don't think UK expected that.
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Matt Jones
And that's just another the guy they had listed. Pope said after the game that the per. Because you're right your goober coach Shannon calls everybody a point guard although I think he might be good. Why can't you bring Stackhouse back? Can you not get him to come back for another year?
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Bryce Drew would be even worse.
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I always felt pretty good with with Stackhouse but he. But Pope said that they wanted to give Vandy give their sinners Open looks at 3 and and right. Apparently they went 5 of 9 so that you know I'm sure they were playing the numbers there Ryan but it didn't work out for them.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, they're hitting everything they throw up and we're struggling again offensively. I mean we saw some guys really struggle offensively. I'm, you know I'm beginning to think that Butler's hurt a lot worse than we think he is because man, he just didn't look himself without Ortega away they would have really been in trouble.
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Matt Jones
Well let's talk about the injury component because you have. All right. Carr was out and if you listen Drew to the post game comments it sounds like he might be out a bit. Pope said he felt like that he had not done car well in terms of playing him. The insinuation, I don't know the exact wording he used but the insinuation was maybe they'd been playing him when they shouldn't have. And it sounded to me like Drew, he was we might expect him to not play for a period of time. Did you take it like that?
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah, I think most people did. Those were pretty deflating comments from Pope. He all but said don't expect him soon. He said I've probably done a bad job with Carr and how he's playing him and Carr wanting to get back. It sounded like they wish they'd been Resting him longer. But I'm with you. Those comments. I don't. We don't know anything, but I don't expect to see Carr for a while. Pope was not talking like a dude that's about ready to see a car back in the starting lineup.
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Matt Jones
And then Butler. I mean, I think if we're honest, Ryan Butler's been really bad the last two games. I mean, I think he was really bad against Alabama. I think he really struggled against Vandy. Now, some. Some commenter online wrote something like, I feel like he's been hurt. And then his dad retweeted it. So his dad sort of almost confirmed he's been hurt. And you can see him during the game kind of playing with his shoulder, like, almost like it feels like trying to put it back into place. I. It's. What's uncharacteristic to me is, are the turnovers. I mean, the getting his pocket picked. That's bad, but I guess that happens. But I didn't understand the trying to force feed the ball. It looked like Pope had called timeout. They had a play set up. The play required Amari to get the ball at the top of the key. And when that was cut off, Butler was like, I'm forcing that ball no matter what. And that led to a turnover. That. That Ryan. Those two turnovers were crucial. Always was bad. But, I mean, at least OA was trying to get to the basket. Those two by Butler were before they'd even run any offense at all.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that's why I think it's a fair conversation to have. Is he really banged up where it's right. It's messing with him because there was a point in the game against Vandy, too, where he stuck his left arm out to try to deflect the ball, and then he just left that left arm hang for about 10, 15 seconds. You could tell he probably it tweaked it or something because he just didn't even move it for like 10 or 15 seconds. So I think there's something to that. But, you know, they're so thin right now on the bench. If cars out and Kerr's out, You know, Pope tried to play some different guys, but some guys just really weren't ready to play.
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Matt Jones
I don't think there were some lineups there in the first half. Drew, we can't go back to some of the rewrites. Like we. I mean, the. I mean, Colin Chandler, you know, I hope there's still a time that kid can play here because he's. I Think he's very talented. This is not that time. I mean, he. He looked scared to death. And that lineup at the end of the first half, I. You know, at one point, they had, like, Noah, Chandler, Brea, and Almanor in at the same time. And honestly, Shannon, that the four of us might have been the same defensively for us during that period of time. I mean, I'm not. There was a period at the end of the first half, Drew, it looked. We look like a high school team. I mean, it was. It was not in. Just in terms of the sloppiness and vanity. Took advantage that whole time.
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Voiceover Announcer
If we weren't on radio, I'd tell you what I said when I left, because I had to pick up a pizza. And when I came back, I only missed a few minutes, and I looked up and all those guys were on the court, and I just thought, what in the world has happened that this lineup is in? And unfortunately, we saw pretty quickly another piece of evidence that it's just not time for Chandler to be on the court. I mean, long term, I think he's got it in him eventually, but the two years off and whatever else is going into that, he just can't be out there right now. And that was pretty clear the moment he got in.
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Matt Jones
I mean, we've seen with Travis Perry and Trent, Noah Ryan, they've both had moments. I mean, I thought Trent, Noah played pretty well at Vandy. I'm not exactly sure why Pope put him in on that final defensive play because he. That didn't work. But I actually thought he. He hustled, he played hard. He actually would get physical. Whereas I think a lot of our guys were avoiding contact. And we've had some moments with Travis Perry this year where I thought he's looked good. I didn't think Saturday was one of them, but he's had some moments where he's looked good. But for whatever reason, Colin Chandler just. I mean, except for the blue white game, we really haven't seen anything that suggests that he can play here yet.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, Trent has slowly been earning some quality minutes. I think he's getting confidence in himself, and Pope is getting confidence in him. I think they have confidence in Travis Perry. But what you've seen from Colin, from Chandler, I mean, I don't know how you could feel good about putting him out there. I mean, to be honest, Matt, the game played out exactly the way Shan, the dude told us it was going to on Friday. I mean, that's. It played out kind of exactly what he said.
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Matt Jones
I mean, you know, it made me look like a genius.
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What did you say I was Something about words. Vandy wins.
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No, I said first of all, if Vandy wins, they have to create points off turnovers, which they did.
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They did.
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I said, I said Vandy would not match Kentucky shot for shot. Kentucky percentage wise outshot Vandy and we out rebounded.
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You didn't.
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And then finally I said, if Vandy gets a big lead, don't worry about it because they'll blow it. And they did. No, I didn't. I didn't think they would come back from down seven. I thought at that point the game was over, Kentucky had it. But credit to Vandy for coming back down seven.
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Yeah, I mean, that's part of the reason you should win. Win. You outshot them, you out rebounded them and you came back from a deficit and took a seven point lead. Now if you point at the two reasons we lost, you're going to point at turnovers. And then they hit four more threes, which gets me, Drew, to kind of my final point before we go to break. Why don't we shoot more threes? I. It is, I went back and look, we, we made 10 threes a game in our first eight games of the season or something like that, which are maybe seven of our first eight or whatever. And it was like a Kentucky record. And now we have been outshot. Just attempt three point attempts in six of our seven SEC games. And we are the team that's supposed to be a three point shooting team. Why do you think, Drew, we've gone away from that?
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Voiceover Announcer
I don't know. I mean, part of it is teams have adjusted, but it's still not getting anywhere near what we want. The what kills me is Kobe Braya. I haven't seen what he is today out of the weekend, but going into the weekend he was second in the country in percentage and not top 50 in attempts. I'm ready for Kobe to start ball hogging. I don't care if a couple of them clank off the side of the backboard. We need more out of him. He hasn't even scored in double figures in several games, if I'm not mistaken. I think he's a big piece of, of why the offense isn't getting where they need to be. Because for a while I know the competition was down, but you know, he's throwing in three or four a game now. It's. We're lucky to see one out of them.
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Matt Jones
I just, I don't get. I feel like they got are so unselfish that they don't shoot. And I don't understand it. Like Jackson Robinson and Kobe Braya need to shoot. If they have a sliver of opening. Ryan, fire it up. Like what are we doing? Because one of the things we've seen is with the exception of away, this team does not finish at the rim. They just so I would much prefer them shooting threes at threes more than two.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah. I think one reason they're not getting as many threes, we've talked about this. The opposing defenses are really pushing them out, way out, you know, picking them up way outside the three point line. That pressure on them again. And Brea and Robinson, these guys that aren't very physical, they're having trouble getting free from that. You know what I mean?
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Matt Jones
Yeah, they are. And we've got. And we're. We can't finish at the rim. We miss so many attempts at the rim. It does make it hard. 859-280-2287. We'll talk more about the game. I guess the only positive is Shannon had to pay us $500,000 or at least his school did because they can't stay off the court and are not law abiding citizens. We'll talk about that right after. This is KSR. Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Couple open lines, give us a shout. Good chance to get in. Text machine is 772-774-5254. One person writes. Matt, I'm not blaming the refs, but I'm stopping the sentence right there. I'm right. Shannon, I'm not blaming the rest.
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That means you are.
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That means you're blaming refs. And I'm not listening to it. That the refs. The refs were very clear, Drew, at the beginning of the game. There weren't going to be fouls. They didn't even call a foul in the first 12 minutes. So you got to adjust. Like this goes back to my problem when it comes to officiating in Kentucky. We got to play to the whistle now. I know it's got to be tough for Mark. He teaches these guys for a week how to avoid playing for fouls and then we end up with refs who don't call anything. But we still. Drew, we're going to have to adjust because like they weren't going to call anything the whole game. And to be fair, I think they were consistent in not calling anything the whole game.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah. And I've been upset After a few games about officiating and I think overall SEC officiating is pretty terrible. But Kentucky losing to Vandy, the officiating is about 0.002% of an impact on the game. I'm just upset that Kentucky dropped the ball in a situation they should have won with the crowd, with the way Vandy played. With Vandy being Vandy, I don't care. I mean, the officials could have been terrible. I can't point any fingers at them after the opportunity Kentucky wasted.
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Matt Jones
One person writes, Matt, why are you all being so negative? This has still been a great year. Well, it has been a great year but we lost to Vandy. I mean, you know, do you want to come on and say, you know, Shane and we lost Vandy, that's good. I mean, well, we lost to Vandy.
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But they are a good team though. I mean, they're not Stackhouse's Vandy.
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They are.
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They will be. I mean, come on.
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They're going to be ranked but at the same time everybody's good. Right? Like you're, you know, I mean, we're going to have to, we're going to keep playing teams that are good. That's just going to be how it is. So that show Drew, or excuse me, Ryan, $500,000. That's what Vandy got fined for court storming. Now there was a great scene, I think everybody's seen the picture now of at the last time out while they were doing that monitor review, the Vandy AD went to the student section and begged them to not storm the court. Literally walked student by student and said, please don't storm the court. We need this $500,000 for nil. And then those stupid kids stormed it anyway. $500,000. And apparently I did not know this, but the SEC, apparently they have changed the policy. So now the money goes to Kentucky, which I didn't realize, I thought it always went to the league office and apparently it did, but I guess they've changed that rule because if on the SEC website it says the money goes to Kentucky. So they basically paid for one or two of our football players for storming the car court. That's kind of amazing, Ryan. And $500,000 is not a huge thing, but actually it's not a little thing in today's new world where you have to pay the players.
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Ryan Lemond
No, I love that seat of the AD over there. Had her hands together like she's praying, please don't rush to court. It's like a parent, like a parent telling your little three year old. Do not eat those chocolate chip cookies when I leave the room. As soon as you leave the room, boom. That's exactly what they, they rushed to court. I didn't realize either that the opposing school gets the money that's in the ni. In the nil world. That's huge. Now you got extra $500,000 to spend.
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Matt Jones
And for basketball that's going to be a good thing for Kentucky because a lot of the times the story of the court is going to be against us.
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Ryan Lemond
That's true.
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Matt Jones
You know, we don't do it. If you're Alabama, that's probably. But basketball court storms happen more, are easier to happen and will probably happen to us more than any other team in the SEC if we're being honest. So Drew, I didn't know that rule changed, but it's actually probably a rule. That's a pretty good rule for Kentucky.
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Voiceover Announcer
So maybe every other year we intentionally lose one at an LSU or a Vandy and collect a check.
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Matt Jones
Go buy yourself another five star player.
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Voiceover Announcer
On the vanity on the Vandy. And I think you just have to eat that and celebrate it. You beat Alabama and football in Tennessee and Kentucky a week apart in basketball. I know it's going to be expensive, but those students in that school won't have a run like that maybe ever again. So just pay it off and enjoy it.
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Matt Jones
The Vandy, the Alabama game was certainly worth storming the field.
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Ryan Lemond
Yes.
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Matt Jones
I would even argue maybe the Tennessee basketball game. I mean we were ranked, I, I guess ninth. We are Kentucky. I get it. But I also, Shannon, understand why your ad was over there begging like that is, you know, that is a significant amount of money. In this new era. Back in the past, I don't think it would have mattered as much. But they're going to have $22 million that they have to add to their budget. And now they have 22.5 and Mitch has 21.5. Thank you.
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Vanderbilt, now that they're going to be in the top 25, you're one of them. So you got stop acting like you're the little team knocking off, you know, the Goliath team. So I also love, by the way that they had like 20 security guards lined up. Like what are they going to do? Like as soon as the court storm happened, they ran right by those guys.
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Well, there's, yeah, there's really nothing you can do because you can't tackle the. That's going to look terrible.
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It's like a show of force that didn't work.
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Yeah, it's not going to work. Who's up next?
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Let's go to bluegrass.
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Bluegrass, how are you?
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Caller
I'm doing all right. Well, no, I'm not doing all right, man. I've sort of held my tongue. I haven't called in. I've been a little bit on the downside. I'm getting tired of the lack of urgency some of us players are playing with. We got to go through people to get the ball, not go around. Excuse me. Pardon me. Can I get this loose ball? I'd like to be going through some people. And that's the reason Noah played. That's the only reason Noah played. I don't want to say, you know.
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Matt Jones
No, he did. You're right. He was. You're exactly right. That's what he did, is he went and he threw his body at. And with. Our other guys are going to have to do that.
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Caller
I just don't want. I don't want to see Pope go down with the ship with Robinson. I don't. I don't. I sort of feel like it saw and Tubby and. And.
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Matt Jones
Going. Going to the ship or going down with. For who? Who are you talking about? Robinson's been good.
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Caller
Yeah, but he. He doesn't get after the loose balls. He doesn't. And he doesn't listen, doesn't play with the lack of.
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Matt Jones
Well, he played decent defense on Edwards when they switched him on him, and he. I don't think he was a problem Saturday at all, to be honest with you. We'll take a break and be right back. This is ksr TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call tj. He'll make him pay.
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Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
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Welcome back Tech Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text Machine 772-7745254. One person writes. Matt, I do wonder if our team feels pressure a plane at Kentucky where everybody's super bowl and some of these kids may not be used to it, you know, maybe, but that's. That's it. Like, I mean, we've had 15 years of having dudes right out of high school, and some of them pick it up, some of them don't. And so, like, you have to have the mentality to play here. I mean, that's. That's a part of it. I don't get the sense that. That they don't get up for it, but they certainly didn't play the last three or four minutes. Well, one person says, matt, I Don't know how you can say Jackson Robinson played good defense. He is our worst defender. He is not our worst offender by far. And even Mark Pope said that, you know, I mean Shannon, after the beginning they put Robinson on Edwards. Edwards struggled a little bit until the end. Then he had a couple shots there at the end. But you know, he's what he scored like nine points in the first three minutes. They then, they then switched Robinson on him actually thought he did pretty well. Our worst defenders are some other guys. I mean he's not a great defender. But Brea and, and some of the guys coming off the bench, Almanor, even Carr, although he was hurt. How much do you think not having car Drew mattered in this game?
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Voiceover Announcer
A ton. Not going to use it as an excuse, but I think that's going to be a big deal moving forward too. You know, Carr hadn't been perfect, but in the comeback against Duke, the comeback against Gonzaga, a lot of the big moments and big runs where Kentucky won games, Andrew Carr was a part of it, especially late. So I'm worried about that. And I really think even though Kirk Riso wasn't exactly an all SEC player, I think his loss has been very impactful to this injury thing. Again, not making excuses for them, but I think it's hurting Kentucky a lot more than getting credit for.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I do too. Now, big picture, Ryan, you know, I don't know. Is this. Are you adjusting your expectations at all? Like, I mean, I think after our non conference, maybe our expectations got a little ahead of where they were before the season. Are you adjusting them back to where they were originally? Are you feeling even worse than that? Like where are you on it?
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Ryan Lemond
I guess if I'm going to be honest, I'm a little worse. And it's not necessarily a reflection on Kentucky. It's a reflection on the rest of the sec. I mean, like you said, you still got Auburn, Tennessee twice, Alabama at their place. I mean there's still some really Ole Miss, there's still some really, really tough games. So there's, there's more losses coming. I mean, but you can also look.
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Matt Jones
At that as an opportunity. I mean, there's also a chance with those games to get wins. Do you have any worry, Drew, at all about making the tournament? And the only reason I say that is we only have two or three games left on the schedule that you would say, okay, we're definitely winning those. Do you have any worry about that at all? I mean, for me, if this team wins 18 games, they're in the tournament. So like they're going to need like four more. I feel like they definitely get that. But like, I mean, you know, any worry to get to 20, for instance, you'd have to win. You'd have to go 6 and 6 in these last 12. Any worry about doing that?
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Voiceover Announcer
Not right now. We were having this debate on the website this weekend. I kind of made the case of why we shouldn't worry. I mean, they're third in the country in quad one wins. They have six quad one wins in the net rankings today. I think they're 12th or 13. I mean, these are some bad losses, but their non conference wins were so good. And if they just win a few more in the sec, those will be good wins. I just don't see a miss the tournament situation unless things just go really south move moving forward. Because if you just watch a few more in the sec, those are going to be even. Those are going to be more big resume wins to put next to the ones you already have.
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Matt Jones
Beat South Carolina, beat lsu, beat Arkansas, let's just say beat Vandy at home. All right, now you're at 18 and then it's just like win one or two of these at Texas, at Oklahoma, Ole Miss, you know, Auburn at home, Tennessee at home. Just win a couple of them. So I'm not worried about either. What's interesting about the net is we were. We've been like 12th or 13th all year, Drew. Whether we win or lose, it's like no matter what happens, we stay at 12 and 13, no matter what.
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Voiceover Announcer
That's been very weird. There's been weeks where, you know, you go have these big wins and you can't wait to see where they're on the rankings. And it's like up one spot, then you lose at Georgia, it's like, oh, no, down one spot. It's been Kentucky's whatever the.
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Matt Jones
We've been 12th or 13th no matter what. Even.
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Voiceover Announcer
It's like Ken Palm. The analytics are a little wonky around Kentucky, too. I don't get. I don't know if it's how they play or what, but it hasn't been effective either. Either direct.
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Matt Jones
It's really odd. It doesn't seem to have an effect either way. 859-280-2287 who's next? Shannon.
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DB, DB.
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How are you, DB?
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Caller
I'm doing good. I watched a nice wrestling match Saturday between Auburn and Tennessee. In my opinion, ridiculous. I think the referees are letting things get too far out of hand and it's going to hurt the sec. When they get in the tournament games, you're going to get some officials that are going to start calling things and then they're going to be out in no time.
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Matt Jones
Well, db, what do you think, though? It was only a week ago that people were complaining that they were calling too many fouls. Remember? I mean, this is a week ago there was a game that had something like, what was it, 70 fouls called or 60, some fouls called in the A and M Alabama game. So maybe they went too far in the other direction. I'm not sure, but I think it's like, you know, we were complaining at the beginning of the year they called too many fouls, and then this weekend the complaint was they called no fouls. So I don't really know what they're.
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Caller
Going to do when the Auburn player grabbed that Tennessee guy at the end of the game and almost threw him down in front of the official, the Tennessee coach throws his water bottle down. I mean, it's getting ridiculous some of the things they let go.
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Matt Jones
Well, in that game, I agree with you. I appreciate the call. But I will say, Ryan, I hadn't thought until this week that they weren't calling enough fouls because I thought they were calling way too many. And then it was clear in that UK Vandy game, they weren't blowing that whistle. I can't remember I've ever seen a game where they didn't call foul in the first 12 minutes of the game. Can you ever remember that? No.
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Ryan Lemond
That's insane. So. So let me ask you this. You know, after the game, Jackson Robinson came on with Jack Givens and said something like he felt like they came out tentative because they'd practiced all week. Not fouling.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, probably so. Probably so. But you know what? I understand why they did that. Because in every game up to this point, they were calling everything. So, you know. But even with all that said, we're up seven with eight minutes to go. We got a way to win now. We didn't collapse overdrew like Kansas at the end of their game. Did you watch the end of that game?
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Voiceover Announcer
Did you see the recap? I didn't see a lot, but that was a historic collapse in regulation.
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Matt Jones
Ryan, they're up four, they let Houston score and then they can't get the ball in bounds. Turn it over, game goes to overtime. So they already had one inbound, screw up in regulation, then in overtime, up six at the line for two shots, miss them both, give up a three, miss the inbound, give up another three and Go to overtime. That's one of the most historic collapses I can ever remember. And it was the final leg of the KSR parlay, which all Kansas had to do was win. If you think I wasn't throwing stuff in my. Up here I was. I was going insane during that. What at home. What a collapse by Kansas.
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Ryan Lemond
I'm with you. I had heavily invested for me in the KSR parlay. Comes down to that. I'm just screaming, Kansas, just do the caliper play put, have Hunter Dickinson throw, put his arm up in the air and just get the ball in bounds. That's all you had to do is get it in bounds. I couldn't believe they collapsed like that.
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Matt Jones
And he missed the two free throw. All he had to do is make one of those free throws and it's over. It was. I mean, I don't know that I've ever seen the team collapse. I mean, the only one I can think about was many years ago, Drew, that Duke, Maryland collapse when Maryland was up like 10 with a minute to go and then Duke came back. That was. I say that was 20 years ago, probably that was when I think Jay Williams played. But I. That was one for the ages there Saturday night.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah, I mean, that was an improbable ending for any level of basketball. You have that at transient. It would be crazy. But the fact that it happened in the fog, where usually, you know, things just start happening, whistles, lights will go out. I think they even put in bigger rims for Kansas late in the games there for them, for them to lose on that court makes it even crazier.
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Matt Jones
It was bizarre. Now, let me ask. I said this after the game, you tell me if I'm right. I said that. I think Kentucky, at this point, if you're just looking big picture, I'm going to Enjoy the last 12 games, assuming we win enough to make the tournament. For me, Ryan, this team in March is one of these. Every game we can win, every game we can lose. And that sounds simplistic, but I don't. There's no team in the NCAA that I don't think this team can beat. There also probably won't be many teams in the tournament that I don't think we can lose to. So is that just going to be what it is? It's like every game is a battle and we'll see what happens.
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Ryan Lemond
I think everybody's going to agree with you. This team is definitely going to make the tournament, yet there's going to be that matchup and maybe the Second round against a team they should be.
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Matt Jones
What about the first round?
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, even the first round, you're right.
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Matt Jones
I mean, we could be a six seed. I mean, forget the second round. We might be a five or six seed. And the first round is like that.
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Ryan Lemond
You know, because even, even this week, you know, they dropped Tennessee. That's a three game slide going in with Arkansas coming in. I mean, I'm going to be nervous and anxious, anxious this whole week now.
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Matt Jones
I'm not, by the way, I'm not thinking about the Arkansas game until after the Tennessee game. Yeah, well, I'm not because I know everybody wants to talk about Cal and the Arkansas game and we're going to have plenty of time to do that on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
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They need to win this Tennessee game tomorrow.
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But this Tennessee game is first. Tennessee is objectively a bigger rival to us now this year the unique circumstances make us want to beat Arkansas more. But you know, Drew, we've had some success at Tennessee. We've sometimes had success at Tennessee even when we were coming in having been terrible. Matter of fact, I think in the last few years I think we won like twice there. Coming off really bad losses where we thought our team wasn't good and then we went down there and won. That's happened, I think twice.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah, it's actually been pretty good at Tennessee. I usually make that trip. I remember one in particular a few years ago, Kentucky was a 13 point favorite. I was dreading the game my entire drive down there. Next thing I know, C.J. frederick is sticking out his tongue and Kentucky's up by 10 on that Tennessee team. Last year they had a big game there. Reed shepherd went off going against Dalton Connect. I think this is one of Rick Barnes better teams he's had in a while. But Kentucky has found a way to go up against some of the Vol's best there lately.
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Matt Jones
I think we've won our last two. You mentioned last year and I think wasn't it this game that Antonio Reeves, he started playing Antonio Reeves two years ago and he had a pretty good game. Am I right about that, Drew?
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Voiceover Announcer
That sounds about right. I know. Like with the case of Frederick, they seem to always have a guy step up in those games too. Last year I mean we already knew about shepherd, but he was unbelievable last year he had close to 30. He couldn't miss threes. All my Tennessee friends are texting me, what the hell is this Reed shepherd guy? I mean he lit him up last season.
- [35:28]
Matt Jones
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Yeah.
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You know, you still play Auburn in Nashville. A million dollars, a lot of money. Do you think they set up grenades around the court for that one to keep the mind.
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You mean like where they just step on mines and.
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Yeah, like. Yeah. I mean they're gonna have to do something they can't pay. I'm not saying they're gonna beat Auburn. They probably won't, but they, they can't pay a million dollars.
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I'm not gonna go as far as grenades and mines, but I think maybe it's time to whip out the taser. Maybe the cattle prods, you know, like the mount he used to carry around.
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Yeah, they're going to need more people in yellow shirts. Yeah, they're not going to need to be bigger. But I don't really know what you do, Ryan. You get that many people who want to come on, you're going to have a hard time stopping them.
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Ryan Lemond
You know, it's the year of the Commodores, man. The football team in Diego Pavia beat Alabama. They've beat Tennessee and Kentucky and a week apart. So let the, let the kids eat, man. Let them have a little fun.
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Voiceover Announcer
I think you got to build a moat around the court, fill it with alligators. I mean, you got to go to the extreme here.
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Matt Jones
You have.
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Voiceover Announcer
Your budget is up to a million because you're going to lose a million if they do it. So spend 700,000 building already spent a million.
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Matt Jones
Right. I gotta money.
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Yeah. Your kids are going to have to double the cost of their meal plan if they don't stop. If they, if they don't stop running on the court. By the way, you all were talking on the pre show, Shannon, about the SEC tournament. Yeah, Ryan, this SEC tournament is, it's going to be so Wild. And I don't know, we've talked about this, but I don't know if people really focus on. There are going to be eight teams playing on Wednesday and the team seated ninth or whatever is going to play on Wednesday and that team's going to be really good.
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Ryan Lemond
Could be an NCAA tournament team.
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Voiceover Announcer
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
I mean, right now we're, we're 10th. If the SEC tournament started today, we'd be playing on Wednesday and we're 10th. So the SEC tournament, if you're just talking quality of basketball, this is the best it will ever be, in my opinion. I mean, I was looking on the secondary sides. The cheapest full session SEC tournament book I saw was $900. And that's not cheap. But when you consider you're going to get 15 games, probably 13 of which will have great teams in them, it's actually probably one of the better prices you could get for that level of basketball. That many games. Ryan?
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah, the Wednesday night games, like it's usually Missouri last year they didn't have any wins. Usually, you know, they have to give away tickets, free tickets just to come fill the arena. They're going to do that this year.
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Matt Jones
This year, I would think. No, I mean, I don't know. But they're not going to give away those. They're going to give away the tickets Wednesday when Kentucky might be playing. Right. I mean, I can't imagine they do.
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Voiceover Announcer
That and they haven't done that in a while. Remember the last couple years? Wednesday night was almost full. We used to joke about how, you know, you have the place to yourself. It was my favorite night here. Lately.
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Matt Jones
It's. But, but it's only been like $5 in recent years.
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That was the only way I could get into the building. They wouldn't credential me. We know that much.
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Yeah. Okay. By the way, the, the things came out today.
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I'm not doing it to apply.
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No, you're not even going to apply.
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Voiceover Announcer
Why.
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Matt Jones
Why am I wasting my time?
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Maybe you get it this year. Remember I went and argued for you. Maybe you get it this.
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You've been arguing for years for me.
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But he, But I did it on Wednesday. This time he said you can argue early. So if you'll apply. I'll put in the argument early if you want.
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Ryan Lemond
I saw it.
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Voiceover Announcer
It was face to face.
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Matt Jones
So you do it? Yes.
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Let's go.
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I did it. I'll do it this time.
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Mark my words, though, if I don't get credentialed this year, you're done. Never, ever apply. For an sec. Credential ever.
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Okay, fair enough. This is it. And I'll say that to him. It's now or never for Shannon Griggs. He may one day end up the head anchor on espn. It's now or never. If you want, make sure you put.
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Ryan Lemond
Shannon the dude Grigsby.
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Matt Jones
You always make that. I always put Grigsby. I never put the dude.
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The problem was he literally said he needs to put the dude on there.
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So. Are you being serious? Do you really want me to do this?
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I think you need to put it on there because they don't know who. They don't know who Shannon Grigsby is.
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Okay?
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Shannon put the dude in quotation marks Grigsby.
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Voiceover Announcer
Okay?
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Matt Jones
That's the way to do it. And plus, that'll be the only one they get like that. So they'll know who's up next. Carl the dude ravage Mad Dog.
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When he tries to apply for credentials. Does he put Mad Dog on it?
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I think he has to to. I think he has to. He has to put bad dog. All right, Chris. Go ahead, Chris.
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Caller
Hey, Matt. Good morning. I got a suggestion for the court storming solution. 10 or 20%. The ads say if we win this ahead of time, if we win this game against Kentucky or yada yada, yada, we're going to take 20% of what the f would be and throw a big party.
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Matt Jones
If you all pizza. Okay. Yeah.
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Caller
No.
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Matt Jones
You think that would work?
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Caller
You think? I think so. And then the next time, if it's a hat would have been a half a million. It's a hundred thousand dollar party.
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Matt Jones
That's interesting. Okay, I like the idea. I like the idea. Okay, okay. Real quick, real quick.
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Caller
If you don't mind.
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Matt Jones
I'm.
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Caller
I'm thinking of the dichotomy between cow and pope. And sometimes I wonder, like, I think these guys, he's so analytical. Where PO or Cal would just roll the ball out.
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Matt Jones
Okay. Until Wednesday, no count to Wednesday. It is no cow until Wednesday. Appreciate the call. We're not doing Cal or analyt. We're no Cal to Wednesday. I want to go back to this party. Shannon, you are a nerdy Vandy fan. If you. If you were in the student section.
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Yeah.
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And they have a million dollar fine. If the. If the ad said we'll throw a hundred thousand dollar party if you all will not storm the court. Are you in?
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No, because that is my party right there. That's the party.
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Okay.
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We don't want.
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Drew, you were a UK student. What happened to you We'll. We'll throw a hundred thousand. Wait a minute. Well you didn't storm a court at uk you storm it.
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Voiceover Announcer
Fields. Fields. Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Party if you don't storm. Do you think you all could talk yourself into that?
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Voiceover Announcer
I would say that's awesome. You cheap ass. I can have a million dollar party if we win by storming the court.
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Matt Jones
So I guess Tanner's idea is not going to work.
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Ryan Lemond
Promises.
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Voiceover Announcer
I think you got to go higher on the cost of the party now. Half a million. I'll listen to you but that doesn't sound like much of a party.
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Matt Jones
How you going to have a half million dollar party?
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Voiceover Announcer
Spend a million then if you don't want to have a party what do.
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Ryan Lemond
You you get Bobby Bones.
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Voiceover Announcer
Get Nate Buzzi for half a million.
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Matt Jones
That's true. You could get a band or something to go to school. You're exactly right. All right we'll come back hour number two ksr.