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Ryan Lemon (3:05)

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Matt Jones (3:12)

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio, 859-280-2287. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is 772-774-5254. Joe writes, Matt, I think your Secret Service name would clearly be no Swiss. Shut up. Brian says Matt, your Secret Service name would certainly be White Necklace also. Shut up.

Ryan Lemon (3:36)

Another good one.

Matt Jones (3:37)

I'll do this one. One person writes Matt, I think it would be toenail. I'll take that one. I would do.

Shannon The Dude (3:42)

There you go.

Matt Jones (3:43)

Toenail's a good one. People, people, you know, that's a random story I told Drew that really sticks in everybody's mind was the carrying around a toenail. I don't know why that one sticks.

Ryan Lemon (3:53)

You don't, you don't know why?

Shannon The Dude (3:55)

I don't know. I don't know either.

Ryan Lemon (3:56)

Why would anybody remember that?

Shannon The Dude (3:57)

I thought everybody did that.

Matt Jones (3:58)

Yeah. All right, so 859-280-2287. Feel free to talk about callback Tennessee game. I'm glad to talk about Tennessee game for the rest of the year because I love beating Tennessee. But we do need to talk about, you know, the next three days through Saturday are going to be all, I do think a lot of the national spotlight from the college basketball world is going to be specifically on Kentucky fans. They're going to be two angles to this game Saturday. What does Caliperi feel emotionally and then secondly us and like, what are we? Like, how do we sort of receive Cal back? And I have, you know, some thoughts on this that I just want to share. And then Drew, you and Shannon like to hear what you think as well. I'm going to give you the short version of mine. Cal's going to walk in here on Saturday night and the whole college basketball world is going to wait to see what our reaction is, whatever that reaction is. And there's going to be a lot made about what the reaction is. I have Already done. I spent yesterday, I think I did four interviews with national outlets about what the. I thought the reaction would be and about the deterioration of the relationship between UK fans and Cal. I've got another two scheduled on my way to the airport today. This is clearly going to be a big thing and part of the reason I'm, I'm even doing them is I want to sort of express, I want to take up for Kentucky fans on this because, you know, the natural reaction from a lot of people is going to be able to. Is going to be say, hey, this dude coached you for 15 years. Why is. Whatever the reaction that comes the reaction. And you know, Cal did an interview, I guess yesterday or two days ago where he said, you know, he'd used his line about how he's got bazooka holes in him so he doesn't even feel anything anymore. But I, you know, I don't believe that I know him. If he gets booed in here, it's going to bother him. But, you know, that's how it is, right? Like, that's. I get it. He's a human being. Like, it would, it would stink if you, if you coached here and then had that reaction. Here's what I want to say to Kentucky fans. This is just my take on it. If I was at that game Saturday, and I may be, but if I, if I do, I'm not going to, I'm not going to boo him, but I'm not going to cheer him. I don't think you cheering. If people, if people want to, that's fine. I'm not going to cheer him just because he did leave and the last few years were a strain on the fan base. But I'll be honest, we're also a strain on me personally. So I'm not going to give him a round of applause if the last time he was in Lexington he tried to get me fired. I can't stand up, Shannon, and give a round of applause when I know that one of the last few phone calls that was made was trying to get me to lose a job.

Ryan Lemon (6:50)

Neither would anybody else going to do that.

Matt Jones (6:53)

But I'm also not going to boo him because I've had a lot of my personal life, my personal success. He deserves a part in. I can't ignore that. I can't ignore that my switch from being a lawyer to doing this full time coincided with him getting here and the excitement he brought. And that, especially in the early years, you know, he would give us some insight and stuff that was helpful. So I can't ignore that either. You know, just because a relationship ends does not mean there were not positive moments in that relationship. So I can't ignore that. So I wouldn't do anything. But what I want to say to Kentucky fans is, whatever you decide to do Saturday, whether it is cheer, boo or be in silence, you've earned the right to do whatever you do. Okay? If you decide to get up and applaud him because of his time here, you've earned the right to do that. My guess is, all of you listening, he's given you very happy moments. If you decide, like me, to stand up and do nothing, you've earned the right to do that for whatever your own personal reason would be. But if you decide to boo, you've earned the right to do that, too. We've booed a lot of coaches over the years. Matter of fact, we boo most road coaches. Any road coach with notoriety for the other team gets booed. Bruce Pearl gets booed. Nate Oates gets booed. If Krzyzewski had come in here, he'd get booed. Rick Pitino got booed. Chris Mack got booed. I mean, you name the coach. Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan coached here when he came back with Florida, what happened? He got booed. So why it is he coaches Arkansas? Arkansas is our rival. So if you want to stand up and boo, you've earned a right to do that, too. So there's going to be this collective. You know, I know some of our fan of our media is getting up and saying, please don't boo. Be classy. People in this fan base are smart. People in this fan base know more about basketball than any other group of college fans in the country. You have a right to whatever reaction you have. And you do not let people who aren't part of this group tell you what your reaction should be. Whatever your reaction is is completely valid. For me personally, my reaction is going to be silence. But whether you're cheering, whether you're booing, you have a right to express your emotions. Because he's a road coach now, if in 10 years he's retired and he comes in here to watch a game, all of us, me included, should applaud. I do believe that absent him doing something crazy between now and then, which I don't think he will, but as an Arkansas coach, when he walks in here after having left us with all the basketball benny talk and all that's happened over the last few years, whatever reaction you give, you have earned. And I'm not going to listen To Seth Greenberg or Jay Bilis. I don't know that he would say this or whoever that gets on television or rights to say we shouldn't. They're wrong. They don't get a vote. Our vote is internal. I've heard Jack Givens say he will. He will cheer. You've heard me say I'll do nothing. I've heard at least one prominent person say they'll boo. All reactions are valid. That's my take. Drew, what's your take?

Shannon The Dude (10:29)

I agree with you in that people should do whatever they wanted to do. And I think it's going to be a little bit of everything. I think it's going to be pretty divided. We'll hear the booze, and I think the people that want to cheer will try to drown that out, which will make the booers be louder. I think we'll just have a little conflict with fans. And I think part of that is, I think there's a divide on what people think booing is. Starting with that some people, like you're saying, and I agree with, he is coming into Rupp arena to ruin our day. I think that alone is worth booing. Whatever your name is, if you're on the other team wearing the other logo, I. I think you should be booed. Whether you're at, you know, Bucknell, whatever. They're coming in to ruin your day. If you want to, boom, boom. It's sports. That's what we do. We hope they still go to their cars and go eat dinner with their families at night. But you're in Rupp Arena. You should get booed if you're wearing the other color. So that alone. I think some fans should do it, allowed to do it, whatever. I'm not going to boo. Do it. Do whatever you think. But then also, someone on KS board made a great point. Their name was actually John Cal. John Calamari. He listed all the reasons he loves Cal, great reasons, and we all agree with him. And he said he's traveling all the way here just to boo Cal because he needs it just for reconciliation. Like, I'm going to boo, and then I'm closing the book on being mad at Cal. We're all moving on. We'll have the game, all of them. But I need to boo to let him know how upsetting the last few years were because he didn't have a moment to really feel from the fans that were that upset. I think he's drowned that out a little bit. So I think some people are booing just to start the game just to get it out. They're going to hope we beat Arkansas. And from that point forward, bygones be bygones, whatever. Do what you got to do at Arkansas down the road. We'll bring you back and we'll have a big moment where we hug and talk about Daron Lamb and Aaron Harrison and all that. But Saturday morning it's Arkansas versus Kentucky. If people want to boo, what's wrong with that? They're not saying John Cal. And actually, one thing that really upsets me is the people saying he did so much for this state. All right, no one is booing. His character, Shannon made this point on the pre show. No one thinks John Caliper is a bad guy. No one is ungrateful for what he did for Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky. He did so much good for Kentucky. The booing is not symbolic of John Calipari, a human. It is John Calipari who didn't, you know, live up to the standard the last few years and then left in the middle of the night to go to an in conference team. Who is coming to your arena on your schedule. If you want to boo that scenario, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Matt Jones (12:52)

Totally agree with that. And that's a key point. Shannon, I didn't hear you make it, but it's correct. We're not booing him as a person if he gets booed as a person. Cal's a good guy. I say that in every interview. I said it all interviews I did yesterday, and I'll say it in all of them today. He's a good guy. But he also went on television on Tuesday and said, I will be here. He made Mitch sit next to him. He made Mitch look like a. An idiot, which is not Mitch's fault by saying, I support this guy. And then two days later he talked to Arkansas. You. You're allowed to boo that if you want.

Ryan Lemon (13:24)

And I think if people are booing.

Matt Jones (13:26)

To do that, if you want to do it.

Ryan Lemon (13:27)

And if people are booing, that's what they are, booing. Like, I don't wish any ill will on John Calipari's personal life. I don't even know Caliperi personally, but yeah, he's done a lot of great things for the state, but that's not why we're. It's sports hate. It's not real hate. Yeah, for John Calipari, it's a big difference between sports personal.

Shannon The Dude (13:47)

It's booing at a game. It happens everywhere.

Matt Jones (13:49)

When Shannon the dude walks out in wrestling and Gets booed. The people in the crowd don't hate Shannon. The person. He's playing a character in a. In an event. Now, Cal is not like that, but he kind of is. He's wearing a red jacket. He is going to be. He called the Hogs. And he did a lot for this state, but you know what? This state did a lot for him, too. It was a mutually beneficial relationship, and we decided that relationship was not beneficial anymore, but so did he, and he left. And, like, it's okay if people boo. Now, with that said, if you want to clap because the memories are so strong, I think that's fine, too. Drew's hit it. There's going to be loud clapping, and there's going to be loud blue booing. And you can't be loud, silent Drew, which is what I would be. My. I'd be like. I'm so silent. But like that. You can't. You can't do that.

Shannon The Dude (14:52)

And I think they're just going to out loud each other because we're. Everyone has already had this debate for weeks now, and everyone in that arena is going to try to be louder for whatever side they think is the right side.

Matt Jones (15:01)

All right, so we've said low arena. I wouldn't boo because I'll say this. It's tough for me because my inclination would be to boo, but I just can't because if I look in the mirror, I'm a lawyer if it's not for Cal. So I can't completely just dismiss the guy. Drew says he's not going to boo Shannon. You don't have a personal connection to him like Drew and I do know. So yours is almost the most neutral of the group. Let's say you were at the game. What would you do?

Ryan Lemon (15:32)

I probably wouldn't do either, but if I were going to do one or the other, I would be booing them. I just would. He chose this. Remember that? He chose to leave Kentucky. He chose to go to Arkansas. That's why I don't feel bad for him. That's why I would. Boom.

Matt Jones (15:47)

Yeah. All right, so there you go. That's our take. I'm sure we will hear your take over the next few days. 859-280-2287. By the way, it is wings day at KS Bar all day. Dollar wings all day and night. They're really good right now. I don't know what they're doing with them, but, like, I think they're better now than they've been in the last couple years. So shout out to our chefs. But wings day. $wings all day. And then tomorrow, Ryan and Drew and I will be back at KS Bar. By the way, so if you want to see the show tomorrow, we'll take a break and be right back to Kentucky Sports Radio. Wasn't that delicious? So good. Your bill, ladies.

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Shannon The Dude (19:31)

Exactly. Speaking of whiskey theme for their Friday in Louisville. Looking forward to it.

Matt Jones (19:34)

Yeah. So we are the Friday in Louisville. The pre Arkansas show is at the Louisville location of Whiskey Thief. And we'll get an address for you tomorrow. But hey Louisville people, this is our one Louisville remote of basketball season. So plan on joining us at Whiskey Thief. I believe it's in Nulu.

Shannon The Dude (19:51)

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Matt Jones (19:53)

That's right, we were there. That's right. I remember that road. Nanny goat strut. So 859-280-2287 who's up next?

Ryan Lemon (20:03)

Let's go to Joe.

Matt Jones (20:05)

Joe, Go ahead, Joe. Or what about the guy that go to next to the guy Shannon who held because he wanted to Brad or whatever. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe.

Caller (20:18)

Hey Matt, big thing here is I think you laid the foundation for how everybody should go into the game. Really appreciate that. But from bottom of my heart, I want to say thank you because the national media has been coming down on big blue nation all year long and how we should feel about Cal and this game and you stuck up for us. So thank you. From bottom my heart, everybody can do exactly what they want to do and they have the right to do so. But thank you for giving us a voice.

Matt Jones (20:48)

Well, they don't get a, they don't get a vote. I, I am so tired of the national media telling me how we should feel. You don't get to do that. Right. Like you don't get to say how the people who live and breathe this feel. You got those folks sit somewhere else. It's not a part of their life. They'll opine on Kentucky today, then they'll opine on Yukon tomorrow, Duke the next day.

Caller (21:13)

Amen.

Matt Jones (21:13)

It's just, it's just a like thing for them to say. But we live here. We dealt with it. We know it better than they do. And that's why the person that sits in Rupp arena knows the John Calipari Kentucky experience better than any of the national people do. That's why Seth Greenberg, it's obnoxious for him. To say what real UK fans should do. Every listener to this show knows more about Kentucky basketball than Seth Greenberg. So he doesn't get to decide. Everyone in our fan base gets to decide on their own.

Caller (21:49)

Absolutely. Thank you so much, Matt. And go Big Blue, and I hope we blow them out of the water.

Matt Jones (21:54)

Appreciate the call. All right, let's go to Brad because he's held for a while for his point, so. Go ahead, Brad.

Caller (22:01)

Yes, Matt, thank you. I want to tell you why I would boo Caliperi. It's that he followed up three bad years with two good teams, and for his own personal reasons, he refused to play the winning combination of players in on either one of those teams. And they were good teams. They could have won games in Nashville, they could have won games in the NCAA Tournament, but he refused for his personal reasons to play the correct combination of players. And then he follows that up with the audacity to go to Arkansas and come back and try and extort more money from us. And that is just. I mean, to hell with him.

Matt Jones (22:46)

Well, that's strong. The last sentence. I think everything else.

Caller (22:50)

I'm sorry. I mean, as a. As a coach.

Matt Jones (22:53)

Okay, all right, all right. That's. That's a good change. I don't. But as far as everything else, I appreciate the call. I don't disagree with that, Drew. Right. Like, I don't disagree with the fact that the last two years, those teams should have been good and they weren't. I don't disagree with the fact that he played players because he had made promises to him, and then we ended up not playing the best guys. And I also don't disagree with. In the end, he still was trying to get more money from us and was still trying to change the media landscape for himself. Drew. That's just. All those things are true.

Shannon The Dude (23:23)

Well, that brings me to my. My question. Does Mitch Barnhart boo him? He went in his office and lied on television knowing he had a foot out the door.

Matt Jones (23:32)

He won't boo him, but I. He's not going to boo him, because that's not how Mitch is. But I guarantee you, I mean, Mitch will go up to Cal if the moment comes, he will shake his hand. But there was not a human being in the state of Kentucky with a bigger smile the day Cal left than Mitch. I. That is just true. I mean, I didn't see it, so it's not like I visualized it, but metaphorically, I know that's true. He. For 15 years, their relationship had been negative, and it wasn't All Mitch Cow's fault. Sometimes I think it was Mitch's fault. But in the end, I think a lot of it at the end was Cal's fault and nobody was happier. I mean, the moment Shannon Cow got that or Mitch got that phone call that Cal had talked to Arkansas, I bet he went in his. I bet he nearly said heck at his Bible study.

Ryan Lemon (24:25)

He was so happy. Had to be a big weight off of him, though.

Matt Jones (24:28)

I mean, it had to be because he went. We fought, we. I can get rid of this.

Caller (24:32)

Yep.

Matt Jones (24:32)

And I. I will say this. If I'm Mitch, the thing I couldn't get over is you made me go on TV and take up for you when I wanted to get rid of you, and then you went and did that and stabbed me in the back. That'd be hard to get over Drew. It would, wouldn't it?

Shannon The Dude (24:50)

Yeah. I mean, I was. I was partially joking about Mitch, literally booing. But if anyone has the right to do it, Mitch is high in that conversation with that awkward interview where they both talked about all the marriage is great. Don't listen outside. Well, look at us. And then Cal is in Fayetteville the next week, so I can see later.

Matt Jones (25:07)

He'S talking Arkansas two days later.

Shannon The Dude (25:10)

Do you think UK will do any kind of little short video? They can't control the fans. Do you think there'll be any welcome back quick?

Matt Jones (25:18)

I think they should. I think I wouldn't surprise me if they do, but I, you know, I don't know. I think again, there's a day all of this should happen. I just don't think it's Saturday. As I said, I ended an interview with I think awful announcing who I think is doing a story, Shannon, of Me vs Seth Greenberg about this. I ended it by saying John Calipari deserves his flowers one day in Lexington. It just doesn't have to be Saturday.

Ryan Lemon (25:48)

Yeah. There will be plenty of other opportunities.

Matt Jones (25:51)

In the future times for that. It doesn't have to be Saturday. Who's next?

Ryan Lemon (25:55)

Corey.

Matt Jones (25:55)

Corey. Go ahead, Cory.

Caller (25:58)

I. It blows my mind that this is even a conversation. It is an adversarial coach coming into Rupp Arena. He didn't just leave us. He cheated on us. He went and took Tyson's chicken money. Now I can't buy eggs. And he went to a subpar program and now he wants sympathy. The man is in the middle of his Hollywood Hogan run. He's a heel. We can have our day. We will cheer him. It is not Saturday. He can eat it. And if Seth Greenberg could quit hot chewing him.

Matt Jones (26:32)

He could eat, but his mouth's full.

Caller (26:34)

Thanks, Matt.

Ryan Lemon (26:36)

Wow.

Matt Jones (26:38)

Boy, this is like a. These next two days will be like a fine bomb thing, right? You just open up the phones like we don't even have to talk.

Ryan Lemon (26:44)

You may have given out the whiskey thief call the day too soon.

Matt Jones (26:49)

I mean there is a sense though of it is an adversarial. Let me also say this about flipping the script. Let's say we were one in six and they had beaten the teams we beat. Do you think these national media people lecturing us about how we're acting now wouldn't be lecturing us the other way? Drew saying oh see you let him go you stupid fans. You know they would, you know they.

Shannon The Dude (27:17)

Would game day on Saturday. I wouldn't see it because I haven't watched that show in five years. But it would all be about. Look what you let walk out the door. He's going to come back tonight and show you how wrong you were. You should have stuck with your hall of Famer but blah blah, fancy did. Look at him now. Now you're going to have to eat your words. But no, it's the opposite. We were right.

Matt Jones (27:37)

We were right. At the end of the day, we were right. The stuff people were saying here those last couple years. We got lectured every game about how we were wrong and the fans expectations are too high. We were right, you were wrong. You guys were just taken up for your own. We were correct and I. And if it had been the opposite, you know, we'd be getting lectured by them either way. That's why I don't want to hear it. We'll take a break and be right back. KSR T.J. smith, personal injury attorney. Call T.J. he'll make him pay.

Ryan Lemon (28:16)

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage, here's Matt Jones.

Matt Jones (28:22)

All right, I want to get your guys opinion before I tweet this. I was going to tweet out because I, I just want to survey of the fan base. Shannon. Okay, if you're at the game Saturday and Cal Perry was. Is entered it was introduced. Would you A, cheer B, boo. C, stay silent. You think we should put that poll out there and see what it says?

Ryan Lemon (28:38)

Yeah, let's see. Why not?

Matt Jones (28:40)

What do you think?

Shannon The Dude (28:42)

Oh, definitely. Let's get these numbers.

Matt Jones (28:43)

All right, so what do we think the numbers will be before I hit the post button? Hmm. Now remember, I mean there are some people that follow me that are not Kentucky fans, but I'm not sure what they would be Inclined to vote anyway. Right. They might want to make. Who knows what they. So let's just. What do you think it'll say? Like, when we get ready to take the next break in 10 minutes, what do you think it's going to say?

Shannon The Dude (29:03)

I think it's going to be pretty close. All three ways. I'll give cheering like 40%, 30, 38%.

Ryan Lemon (29:14)

I'm going to say booing is 60, and then I'll say 20 and 20. I guess with the other two is. So it's interesting.

Matt Jones (29:23)

I think stay silent will be the biggest.

Ryan Lemon (29:24)

Really. Okay.

Matt Jones (29:26)

Maybe it's just because that's what each of us would do. Except I don't think Drew, who drew a cheer, but. All right, there we go. I'm posting it. Let's see what the result ends up being. I have no idea what it's going to be. I really don't, because I don't know what the reaction is going to be Saturday. I really don't. I think booing tends to just by nature be louder than cheering, but I.

Ryan Lemon (29:48)

Don'T really know because cheering, I mean, it's not going to be woohoo. It's going to be just clapping.

Matt Jones (29:52)

There's definitely going to be a movement by some of the more. What would I call them, sort of dignified members of our fan base media, especially to encourage us not to boo. I'm going to guess the official line of UK will be not to boo Mitch, or maybe even Pope will say something like that. Um, I'm going to. I mean, Jack has already done it. Tom may do that. And I get it. I don't know that that will have an effect, Drew, one way or the other. Right?

Shannon The Dude (30:27)

It's not. We've heard people saying they're going to boo to their throat bleeds. You're not changing minds.

Matt Jones (30:32)

I'm sure, though, there will be sort of the. The official line would be, hey, guys, don't do this. But I don't really know. It'll matter, but we'll see who's up next. Shader.

Ryan Lemon (30:42)

Marty.

Matt Jones (30:43)

Marty. Go ahead, Marty.

Caller (30:47)

First, I'll say that, you know, we're in good hands when it comes to Mark Pope. I believe he's the biggest UK fan there is and he's a coach of our basketball team. When it comes to booing, I want to encourage people not to boo. The reason is I'm on the boo train. Inside, I'll be booing as loud as you can boo, but outside, you got to play the game. It's like playing Chess, you know, Arkansas season, you could say is a wash. So he's gonna be coming here with all his mojo, all his fire to beat us. We're his Super Bowl. So that's why I think you want to get to him. You'll get to him mentally. Give him the biggest state innovation you can.

Matt Jones (31:23)

Yeah, I don't think that would work the way you think. I mean, look, if you could get every single person to be dead silent, that probably would be the biggest hard thing to process. But there's no way you're going to get 22,000 people not to speak. So, you know, so I get what you're saying, but I. I don't know that that would work. I appreciate the call. All right, so right now, just to 750 votes in. Stay silent, 38, boo, 34 cheer, 28.

Shannon The Dude (31:53)

Oh, I thought a lot of people would smash cheer just that weren't involved and didn't know how bad it got be like, well, why would you not cheer?

Matt Jones (32:00)

That is. I mean, that. That is a split. That's again, well, I'll do it at the end, but that's like the fan base is completely divided as to what.

Ryan Lemon (32:09)

To do, which means you're going to get all kinds of things.

Matt Jones (32:12)

But that means if that's true, if that is what it's like in Rupert, then the booze will be the loudest because the 38%. Or right now it's 40. 35. 25. The 35% booing are going to be. It's not like Shannon. They're going to boo softly, right? Yeah.

Ryan Lemon (32:29)

They're going to be very. Probably the most passionate.

Matt Jones (32:32)

They'll be. The booers are the most passionate.

Ryan Lemon (32:36)

Yeah.

Shannon The Dude (32:36)

They're not doing their Liam Cohen voice.

Matt Jones (32:38)

They're not going do like. They're not going to do that. Boo.

Ryan Lemon (32:43)

Yeah.

Matt Jones (32:44)

Do I want to add one thing.

Shannon The Dude (32:47)

That that is proves like, booing is not the end of the world. The Patriots booed Tom Brady when he came back with the Bucks. This happens.

Matt Jones (32:55)

That doesn't mean he did more for.

Shannon The Dude (32:58)

The Patriots than anyone could possibly do, but he showed up wearing the other uniform. They booed. They love Tom Brady. That's sports. And if we're Rupp arena, we are supposed to have a home court advantage. We don't have one because of officiating. So the crowd has to do the work. Why don't we boo everyone? Is that. Is this not a hard concept?

Matt Jones (33:17)

Can I give one caveat to the Boo everyone. All right, again, people can do what they want. I Actually don't think we should boo those players. A, do Z and Wagner. Do you agree with that or no? Drew, I agree.

Shannon The Dude (33:33)

But when I say boo everyone, I mean literally anyone, another uniform. When they announce the other players, every student, student, section goes sucks after every player.

Matt Jones (33:42)

Okay, that's just me. Again, I would not boo A, do Z and Wagner. I don't think they did anything wrong.

Shannon The Dude (33:51)

And I wouldn't either. But I'm saying if people do, okay, this is sport. They do it for every starting five that's announced. I'm not saying I would do. I love to do. I still cheer for a do. But if it happens, okay, it's Rupp Arena. We're trying to create an environment and win a basketball game.

Matt Jones (34:05)

Would you move the players?

Ryan Lemon (34:06)

They left. They left the University of Kentucky to go play for Caliper University. That's what he called it, right? He said the campus is just moving. It's Cal you. So that's who I'm playing for.

Shannon The Dude (34:16)

I still feel bad for those guys. Honestly, when I watch an Arkansas game, like when Big Z hit that three at the buzzer the first half a while ago, I was cheering. Even though I wanted Arkansas to lose, I still root for those guys. But I'm saying if people do boo, okay, they're on the other team. Grow up. It's sports. People get booed. We're trying to create a hostile environment to win a basketball game.

Matt Jones (34:34)

2700 votes in, stay silent, 39, boo, 35, cheer 26. So we only have a fourth of our fan base. Cheering.

Ryan Lemon (34:47)

So that's what, I don't know. 5,000 people.

Matt Jones (34:51)

Now, I would generally say, though, Twitter is likely a little more negative than rup. But then again, had more support on Twitter than he did in know. I mean, the loudest track, the loudest Cal supporters were the Twitter people. Like, if you went on Facebook, you wouldn't think Cal had any fans, but then if you went on Twitter, he had a very loud section of fans. So I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be like.

Shannon The Dude (35:21)

When I mentioned the highlight, there's a.

Matt Jones (35:23)

There. There's a fan page, Shannon, on. On. On Twitter or, excuse me, on Facebook. I'm not sure the name of it, but it is clearly run by a guy who's a Caliperi fan because he. They block any criticism of Cal and they let people just blast Pope. And it's called, like, Pope's cats or something. And you're like, what, Pope's cats?

Ryan Lemon (35:45)

But it's a caliper, pro calibration.

Matt Jones (35:47)

It almost looks like a pro caliber. Moderated. No, I think the fans on there are all fans. But it's just weird, this fan base with Cal, it's going to be weird, but again, after Saturday, it'll be different. But you got to have that one moment, you know, and we'll see what it looks.

Shannon The Dude (36:05)

Gotta let it out.

Ryan Lemon (36:06)

Syndicate, done.

Matt Jones (36:08)

Syndicate, done. How are you?

Caller (36:12)

So. Yes.

Matt Jones (36:14)

Can you hear me? Yes.

Caller (36:18)

So my thing is, if you think you're going to boo, ask yourself, what would Pope do? And then next that should answer the question.

Matt Jones (36:26)

I love Mark. Let me say, hang on, syndicate, and then I'll let you finish. I love Mark Pope. Mark Pope's a great dude, but I and Mark Pope are not the same guy, right? Like, Mark Pope is a wonderful person, but he's not like, he's not Jesus Christ. I don't have to model my work, life's work after Mark Pope. So while I love Mark Pope and I think he's a wonderful person and in some ways can be much nicer than me. This is what I used to wear a bracelet that said, what would Jesus do? I did until it fell off. I'm not gonna do a. What would Mark Pope do? He is a human being and we can react to things differently.

Caller (37:01)

So I'm gonna tell you this, what I'm gonna do, right? Are you guys listening?

Matt Jones (37:06)

Yes.

Caller (37:06)

I am roasting a 150 pound hog. I just ordered it. I gotta pick it up tomorrow. I'm gonna roast that 150 pound hog is what I'm gonna do. Barbecue style, head on, feet off.

Matt Jones (37:20)

All right, There you go. Wow.

Ryan Lemon (37:21)

Well, took a violent turn now.

Matt Jones (37:23)

Is that a lot? How much, like, how much do hogs weigh? Is 150 pounds a lot?

Shannon The Dude (37:27)

That sounds about right.

Matt Jones (37:29)

I don't know.

Shannon The Dude (37:30)

Sounds about right.

Ryan Lemon (37:30)

Do you know I've never roasted a pig before, ever. I could look, by the way, you.

Matt Jones (37:34)

Better be putting on that Tom T. Hall. Who's gonna feed them hogs? We need all of our hog songs and we need the town. What I want you to play the next segment is they have a song called Arkansas Gambler by Town Mountain. The chorus is like, ain't going back to Arkansas. I'm playing that all weekend.

Ryan Lemon (37:52)

Okay.

Shannon The Dude (37:52)

I still got the razorbacks in my freezer if you all get nuggets in my freezer if you get hungry. They've been sitting there since last May. It's about time.

Matt Jones (38:00)

They're almost right roasting. We could roast those up at the bar after the game's over if we want.

Ryan Lemon (38:05)

Let's see, fully grown hogs and weigh between 3 and 700 pounds. So 150.

Shannon The Dude (38:13)

Little Sweet Mountain angel hog.

Matt Jones (38:17)

Okay, Ryan's not here to do stock to mortgage, so I'll tell you what we're going to do. Shannon has the script. Drew, I want you to do as much of a Stockton mortgage ad as you could do. Shannon, you throw in what he misses, okay?

Ryan Lemon (38:30)

Okay.

Matt Jones (38:30)

All right, Drew, tell me about Stockton mortgage.

Shannon The Dude (38:32)

All right, quickly, this is on brand because for the pregame show yesterday, Ryan started and then goes. You're going to host like as the show is on. So I can be Ryan again. I can do a whole anything Ryan does. Stockton mortgage. Great time to buy. Market's hot right now. We got lots of locations across Kentucky. We like the MLS number three something eight to five. There you go. Stockton mortgage dot com. Check it out. They're your one stop shop for mortgages. I'm Ryan Lemon and it's a great time to buy. Thank you. It's pretty good.

Matt Jones (39:02)

Stockton.com. what else?

Ryan Lemon (39:04)

Yeah, they're big on modular manufactured homeownership. It's achievable. You can do that. You can get it all in one mortgage With Stockton mortgage. Go to stockton.com nmls8259/housing lender nmlsconsumeraccess.org so.

Matt Jones (39:19)

He made you ho. He made you host even though you weren't ready like he told you at the beginning you were. Yeah.

Shannon The Dude (39:24)

On the air. Billy knows. Ryan let us in and then threw it to me and I was like, all right, what is this show called? So we had a good pregame show, but short notice for me. And, you know, I was ready, but I took maybe. Maybe a little more game planning before we were live. Would have. Would have worked out.

Matt Jones (39:39)

All right, let me. Let me get the final results here after 15 minutes before the trolls all end up taking over. Final results. 38% silent. 34 boo, 27 cheer. So it's pretty split. But the 38% silent. Your vote won't register because you'll be silent. It's gonna be the other people who make the noise. We'll take a break and be right back. It says ksr. Wasn't that delicious? So good. Your bill, ladies. I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first. Don't be silly. You don't be silly.

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Shannon The Dude (41:46)

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Matt Jones (42:17)

And this episode was brought to you in partnership with DraftKings. To hear more, listen and subscribe to Fade this on iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts. Ain't going back to Arkansas. I'd be all right if we never went back to Arkansas.

Ryan Lemon (42:31)

Yeah, only time I went there, we went through the Ozarks and we. What was that place? Who to thunk it or.

Matt Jones (42:36)

Yeah, yeah, Fayetteville's all right. And I've heard there are other nice places, but I personally, it was worth going to Little Rock. The Clinton Museum is cool. I still can't believe in the Clinton Museum they put all the Monica Lewinsky stuff. Shannon, like, they put it all there. Like, if it was my museum, I'd be like, can we leave that stuff out? My wife's coming.

Ryan Lemon (42:55)

Forget that happened.

Matt Jones (42:56)

We had to put this in. Like, she's gonna be here this minute. But it's all in there. And so it's always kind of interesting. Right now looks like it's gonna be stay silent slightly, then boo, then cheer. So it's gonna be loud. I think when, when he gets introduced, we got a lot of people on, so we might as well give him a chance before we do it. Real quick. DraftKings. Let's go to DraftKings. Download the app, use promo code KSR BET5. You can get $200 in free bonus bets from DraftKings. Let's make our picks here. Auburn is at LSU. Drew, any chance LSU wins? There's Auburn Row.

Shannon The Dude (43:31)

Auburn's gonna roll. We really need Auburn to quit playing basketball so we can have a shot at this.

Matt Jones (43:36)

They're pretty good. Texas is at Ole Miss. Any chance Texas goes on the road? Oh, Miss. Only a six point favorite, which I find kind of odd. Only six at home.

Shannon The Dude (43:46)

No misses winning that.

Matt Jones (43:47)

All right, then the big one, Alabama at Mississippi State. Mississippi State's the favorite, guys. Wow. What do you think about that?

Shannon The Dude (43:57)

I saw that this morning. This is the spread that threw me off.

Ryan Lemon (44:00)

Yeah, I would take Alabama, I think on this. Even on the road, I think Alabama.

Matt Jones (44:04)

Take Alabama to Mississippi State's. But like there's Mississippi State. Can't score outscore Alabama, can they, Drew?

Shannon The Dude (44:11)

I mean, Hubbard's tough, but Alabama has a lot of scores and they have Hubbard. I don't think so. I would like Alabama.

Matt Jones (44:18)

It feels like they're finding themselves a little bit. I like Alabama. I'm really surprised by that spread. All right, who's next?

Ryan Lemon (44:25)

All right, let's go to Adam.

Matt Jones (44:26)

Adam. Go ahead, Adam. Hey, guys.

Caller (44:31)

I guess it was yesterday's show. You had talked about it being a realistic that Kentucky goals 9 and 9 in the SEC.

Matt Jones (44:39)

So with the win last night, that puts us at 4 and 3 and.

Caller (44:43)

That meant that means we finish out the season five and six the rest of the way in conference. So is that still realistic?

Matt Jones (44:51)

If I were making my in season predictions now I'm looking at like 10 and 8 because I didn't expect us to win that game. Right. So. So, you know, I appreciate.

Caller (45:01)

So where do those winds come from?

Matt Jones (45:03)

I think if I were to pick the most likely wins. I appreciate the call. Saturday against Arkansas, then South Carolina, then lsu. That'll get us to seven. I think we. Who else do we play at home?

Ryan Lemon (45:16)

Vandy.

Matt Jones (45:17)

Vandy. I think we went Mandy at home. That's eight. Then I think we steal one of at Texas and at Oklahoma, I think we get at least one of those. That gets us to nine. And then between Auburn, Tennessee, Bama at home, we end up winning one of those 10, maybe even get to 11. Drew. That's kind of where I am right now. Yeah.

Shannon The Dude (45:36)

I like to check Ken Palm after games, and he's, you know, it always updates. He has Kentucky winning at Texas and Oklahoma by one point now and only losing four more games. And I believe that makes them the four seed in the tournament with all those projections. But, I mean, that looked completely different before yesterday. Shows how quickly it can change.

Matt Jones (45:53)

Yeah, I mean, now that the path is a lot greater, the path is a lot better. I mean, you know, you play at Ole Miss Tuesday night. Let's say you beat Arkansas, and then you play at Ole Miss Tuesday night, if you steal that game now, I think we're right back there trying to fight for a double buy. I mean, that's how big that game was last night. So, you know, beat Arkansas, get to 5 and 3. If you could find a way to win an Ole Miss and go six and three. All right, now we're. Now we're cooking with Grease, right? And it's gonna. I'm gonna continue to say Cooking with Grease, Shannon, because people want to say Cooking with Fire. Fire. But it's grease. Yeah, that's what we said. That's right. I don't like when people be cooking.

Ryan Lemon (46:28)

With a grease fire.

Shannon The Dude (46:29)

How about bacon grease this week? That's what I'm cooking with.

Matt Jones (46:32)

Who's up next?

Ryan Lemon (46:33)

Mark.

Matt Jones (46:33)

Mark. Go ahead, Mark.

Caller (46:36)

Yeah. Hey, guys, a couple things. I think all these national audiences, you know, I just don't think they have a right in this message. So I'm. I'm not gonna fall at all. I'm gonna be silent. And let me say this. When I. When I started dating and was looking for a wife, I had one rule. She couldn't be a Louisville fan. Second thing I did is when my mom passed away, I looked at the Kentucky schedule, and I didn't plan the funeral around the date when they played. So who cares what national folks say or do, right? So John Caliperi, if you look at him, he's very transactional, which is fine. He got paid millions of dollars. So at the end of the day, whatever you want to do as a fan, do it, and it's all good for me. Silent.

Matt Jones (47:26)

All right, I agree with that. Wow. Chained, like, set the date for the mother's funeral. Drew around the games. Now, that one goes on the list of, like, amazing Kentucky fan stories. That's on the list.

Shannon The Dude (47:40)

Oh, yeah, that's. That's a diehard Kentucky fan. I bet some of our listeners are thinking Yeah, I did that too. Or have another example of how crazy we are.

Matt Jones (47:46)

I mean, to be fair, they play on Saturday. Just have the funeral on Sunday.

Ryan Lemon (47:50)

Shannon, it's another 24 hours, huh?

Matt Jones (47:53)

Yeah, and it's the day of the Lord.

Ryan Lemon (47:54)

Anyway, they're not going anywhere.

Caller (48:02)

Adeline, can you hear me talking?

Matt Jones (48:05)

Adeline, go ahead. Adeline, go ahead.

Caller (48:11)

First time, long time.

Matt Jones (48:13)

Who? What's up? Adeline, I'm so glad we beat Tennessee because I can't stand that orange. Big tea. Yeah, it's terrible, isn't it? It's an ugly orange. Like, you would never wear that color, would you? No, no, it's ugly. It's like the puke inside of a pumpkin orange. Like, it's just terrible. Well, Adeline, are we going to beat Arkansas on Saturday? Yes. All right, that's all I needed to hear. I hope we beat the dirty stinking hog. Thank you very much.

Ryan Lemon (48:48)

She's booing.

Matt Jones (48:50)

There we go. That's a booer right there. All right, Adeline, thank you very much. How about. How about that video, Drew? That was a great video of Kobe Bray and the little Tennessee kid last night, wasn't it? That was kind of sweet. Wasn't.

Shannon The Dude (49:02)

Was. As much as I like that, though, I liked whoever put Ziegler's face on the little kid with the Photoshop and Brea taking the picture. I like that even better. But no, that was a fun moment. We keep these moments after every game. There's a story on KSR Now. Pope just took somebody's phone and FaceTime their grandmother after the game. It's just one after another team.

Matt Jones (49:21)

This is a team you take home to mom, right? Like, this is definitely a. You take home to mom. You know, the Wall Cousins team, that was. That was a date. That was a day for fun.

Ryan Lemon (49:33)

The bad boys.

Matt Jones (49:34)

This. This is a team that you take home to mom. And that's fair.

Ryan Lemon (49:37)

Sweet mountain angel babies. Yeah.

Matt Jones (49:39)

Sweet mountain angel babies will be back at KS Bar tomorrow. Wings day, the rest of the day. See you later. It's for Kentucky Sports Radio, I'm Peter.

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