Shannon The Dude (3:28)

That's awesome.

Ryan Lemond (3:28)

So Matt Dot Jones @Kentucky Sports Radio.com if you want to give more away, I'm going to give a couple on this show in the second hour. Don't call now. If you call now, I'm going to tell Shane, well, no call to talk to us, but if you want tickets, second hour, second hour sometime.

Shannon The Dude (3:45)

Gotcha.

Ryan Lemond (3:46)

But, but we also are going to do like an Ask Anything Tuesday because I want to hear what people say. So here' on tap, Ryan. All right, Number one, we're going to talk about Kentucky, Tennessee.

Shannon The Dude (3:54)

Yes.

Ryan Lemond (3:55)

Number two, we're going to talk about there's a lot happening here in Lexington today, actually. And then number three, I'm going to make everybody mad. That's what we're going to do. And it'll be fun.

Shannon The Dude (4:06)

Well, you know, I wonder, do you think the, the weather will prohibit some people from making it to the game? It's supposed to snow like all day, like not even stop till tonight.

Ryan Lemond (4:15)

Yeah, probably. I mean, it'd be interesting to see like when we do our pregame show here.

Shannon The Dude (4:20)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (4:20)

That'll give us a notion, I think, of how crowded the game's going to be. I just, I'm going to keep saying to people if you're not, if you can't make the trip, give your tickets away or give them to me. And I will, I will find, I mean, listen, they'll, there'll be somebody who will come and, and we'll take them. Those of you writing me saying I'll take them, I no, thank you. Like, I know I can find people to take them. The question is who wants to give them? Drew?

Evan (4:47)

Yeah. And I'm, I'm a little worried. I had two different parties out of western Kentucky. Call me and say, how bad is it? We're kind of on the fence, so, you know, from the other side. That's what I said. It's a lot of slush right now.

Ryan Lemond (4:57)

Yeah. I would say for those of you at home trying to figure it out, I. I think you can come. This is not like the other one. This is the kind of snow. It's the real. It's not really cold, so it's. It's fluffy. Like, for instance, you know, we probably have 3 or 4 inches of snow, but. But there was no ice on my car. You were able to just. You were able to just do so. Like, that means when you drive and it's supposed to get to like, 35 today, which means it's not going to freeze the roads. So I actually think if you're listening, leave early. But if you're careful, I think you can. You can be fine.

Shannon The Dude (5:30)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (5:31)

Do you agree with that?

Shannon The Dude (5:31)

I do. And I think this city did a good job pre treating the roads. It looked like last night I saw a lot of trucks out pre treating just to kind of even reinforce the roads won't ice over.

Ryan Lemond (5:40)

So. Yeah, I think if you. I think you'll be fine. I do. Especially if you're just like, coming on the interstate or on the Bluegrass Parkway or something. I think you're going to be fine. Now, again, it's not my fault if you're not fine, Shannon, but I think you should. I think you should be. You should be okay. This is not bad driving weather. This is. It looks worse than it is.

Matt Jones (6:00)

You guys are actually getting a lot more in Lexington than we are in Louisville, so we're only getting a couple of inches, it looks like over here.

Ryan Lemond (6:07)

Yeah. So it. But. But. But hopefully. Hope you know, we do need a good crowd because we. We don't have Jackson Robinson.

Shannon The Dude (6:15)

Yeah. I think the folks that do make it rup. Will be rocking. I mean, this is it.

Ryan Lemond (6:19)

You will.

Shannon The Dude (6:20)

I think, you know, the fact that you kind of throw in the elements. We made it.

Ryan Lemond (6:23)

We're here.

Shannon The Dude (6:23)

Let's go. Let's get crazy. And it's Tennessee on the other side.

Ryan Lemond (6:26)

Do you remember, like, the biggest snow games in Lexington? Because to me, when I think of a snow game in Lexington, I think of the SEC tournament.

Shannon The Dude (6:34)

Yeah, that was it.

Ryan Lemond (6:36)

And Tennessee was one of the games we played. I want to say rhyme. Was that 94? 90.

Shannon The Dude (6:45)

It was 93. 94. It was before I got here.

Ryan Lemond (6:48)

I think you could look this up and see if I'm right. Shannon. I think this was the 1994 SEC tournament. Was in Lexington. And I think it snowed like it dump snow.

Shannon The Dude (7:01)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (7:01)

And people could barely get in the arena. But the ones who got in went nuts. Right?

Shannon The Dude (7:05)

That's right. I know there's a. There's a famous snow story about a game at Southern Illinois or at Illinois where the officials couldn't even get there. They had to get two guys out of the stands and refereed the UK basketball.

Ryan Lemond (7:20)

Come on. It was not too.

Shannon The Dude (7:21)

I promise you.

Ryan Lemond (7:22)

What year was this? 1912.

Shannon The Dude (7:24)

It wasn't that crazy. Long ago.

Ryan Lemond (7:26)

Wait a minute. Like what? What? Like what it. Give me a guess of what year you think this was. Someone will let us know this.

Shannon The Dude (7:33)

I'm totally guessing. I'm going to guess the 70s and it was Southern Illinois.

Ryan Lemond (7:37)

First of all, why would we have played at Southern Illinois?

Shannon The Dude (7:39)

I don't know. I don't know.

Ryan Lemond (7:41)

You think we played a road game at the Salute.

Shannon The Dude (7:44)

Totally guessing. Maybe it was Illinois. But I was thinking it was Southern Illinois.

Ryan Lemond (7:46)

I will say I do remember some version of this story. Talking about. I do. I've always wondered about it though. Was it hyperbole? Did they really just get two guys in jeans?

Shannon The Dude (7:56)

I think I've read. I think they did because they had to play the game.

Ryan Lemond (8:00)

The team made it Two guys in jeans to get.

Shannon The Dude (8:04)

I guess they were high school referees.

Ryan Lemond (8:06)

Have been important.

Shannon The Dude (8:07)

I think that was it. I think they were high school referees.

Evan (8:10)

Some fact checking.93 tournament. Still a good memory.

Ryan Lemond (8:14)

All right.

Evan (8:15)

And we've only played Southern Illinois once and it was here. So not Southern.

Shannon The Dude (8:18)

Not Southern Illinois.

Ryan Lemond (8:19)

I think I. If I can remember. Because I know I remember. It's some notion of what you're saying. Ryan is correct. I think it was like Illinois and maybe in the 50s.

Shannon The Dude (8:31)

Could be.

Ryan Lemond (8:32)

I think it was. I think it was longer ago than that.

Shannon The Dude (8:34)

You remember the SEC tournament that was in St. Louis and it snowed. Everybody on the way home couldn't make it back to Lexington. Back to Kentucky.

Ryan Lemond (8:42)

Wasn't that long. That was the win. Gabriel. 3.

Shannon The Dude (8:45)

Yes.

Ryan Lemond (8:46)

3. Final 4 sec time.

Evan (8:48)

I had friends calling me, begging me to pull over. I even had a friend say by the room because I was driving the middle of night. I stayed at the end of the game and in front of me. I didn't know if I was on highway in a farm. It was just white as far as I could see. And I was driving about 20 coming.

Ryan Lemond (9:01)

Didn't we leave early to make sure we beat this?

Shannon The Dude (9:03)

I was going to say Matt. One of These things. He just can do this. We left early and we're ahead of the snow. We never got stuck in it.

Ryan Lemond (9:11)

I fight weather and traffic. That's what I hold off. It's like I'm a superhero. Just all right, weather, bam. Traffic, bam. That's. That's what I try.

Shannon The Dude (9:20)

A lot of our fans ended up trying to stay in Mount Vernon, Illinois. And the hotels ended up being booked full.

Evan (9:25)

Yeah, all the way back I was seeing full hotels and Kentucky fans pulled over.

Ryan Lemond (9:29)

Well, so tonight you get Kentucky and Tennessee. We. We don't get Jackson Robinson. He is out. Lamont Butler is probable, which I think means probably will, will play. So this is, I think, the first guy game where we've had Butler but no Robinson. How do you think that goes?

Shannon The Dude (9:49)

Well, getting Butler back actually, you know, absolutely helped us last week. But man, Jackson Robinson has been that one key component. I mean, he had the good game when they played at Tennessee, when he had to play point guard. You know, we went down there shorthanded and we played him the first time. It hurts. It hurts not having Jackson Robinson. I think, you know, he's a guy that you can kind of depend on is going to, you know, he had the one bad game. Was it Georgia? I think it was a bad. But ever since then he's played, you know, he's been our best player. I think.

Ryan Lemond (10:16)

1983 against Illinois.

Shannon The Dude (10:19)

It was 83 against Illinois.

Ryan Lemond (10:21)

So that's much more recent than I would have thought.

Evan (10:24)

And they had just guys in jeans.

Ryan Lemond (10:26)

And they so did. Were they really wearing jeans?

Shannon The Dude (10:29)

The story I remember, I think they pulled two guys out of the stands because they were high school referees. They found them a referee shirt, but they had to do it in jeans.

Matt Jones (10:35)

I already have collars that are saying they were in jeans.

Evan (10:39)

So people remember the same picture of the refs. It doesn't look like jeans unless they're black jeans.

Ryan Lemond (10:43)

Oh, now the one guy though doesn't look like a real. Like that. That belly is not the belly of a full time referee.

Evan (10:51)

It does say due to bad weather, local referees are pulled out of the stands to officiate.

Ryan Lemond (10:56)

That's pretty amazing. We win the game.

Evan (10:58)

We won by two.

Ryan Lemond (11:00)

Wow.

Evan (11:01)

Big game by gym master Sam bu. He's with 11 points.

Ryan Lemond (11:05)

Can you imagine if that happened now? And we played like at Tennessee and they're just like, all right, let's get some people here in the crowd. Can you imagine our fans, the uproar of every call. You think Doug Schles gets it bad? The random pot bellied Tennessee people that were. That would be a whole nother level.

Shannon The Dude (11:26)

Especially if they look up in the crowd. They got like a Tennessee volunteer hat on our referee. High school games. Come on, we want you. Yeah, you're definitely one of the guys we want.

Ryan Lemond (11:34)

Well, so. But so tonight, presumably the referees will show up. And I actually think it's. It's a different game without Jackson Robinson for this, Drew. I think now scoring the scoring points will be the heart. So, like, I have a hard time seeing Kentucky get over 80 without Jackson Robinson, which means, like, we're going to have to hope they're cold in order to win. Do you agree with that or hope you get one of those six or seven? Three Kobe Brayan nights.

Evan (12:04)

Let's go and pull my string back here so I can say Kobe. Brad needs to have a big game. I think I say it every day. But really this time, if he picks up the offensive slack that they're missing with Robinson, I think they'll be fine because I really like the idea of Butler coming back and neutralizing Ziegler a little. Ziegler a little bit.

Ryan Lemond (12:21)

Ziegler's been really good since the last time we played him. He did not play well against us, but he has really turned it up in the last few games.

Evan (12:28)

Historically, he's been pretty bad at Kentucky games. I don't know if it's just what he sees on the logo, but that game, I went down there a few years ago, he went 2 for 13, and I think they're all wide open layups. So I like Butler taking him out, but someone's gonna have to pick up the points for Kentucky.

Shannon The Dude (12:41)

Braille was awesome. That game down in Knoxville, I don't know. He missed a shot. That was the game. He was perfect in the field. I think he just missed a couple free throws.

Ryan Lemond (12:48)

But Robinson played well that game.

Shannon The Dude (12:49)

Robinson did play very well.

Ryan Lemond (12:51)

So you don't have him. But we didn't have Butler. We didn't have Car. So I think, like these other guys, you know, we're losing our, in my opinion, best offensive player. So now we've got to find a way to have the other guy step up. Now, I do think because you won down there, we're playing with a little bit of house money here. I mean, I never want to lose to Tennessee, but you beat them down there. If you beat him again, that's amazing. But it's not like crippling if you fall today. But then I think it means you're going to have to win Saturday in Austin if you, if you lose tonight.

Evan (13:23)

Yeah be if they can do it. Only the second sweep since Rick Barnes has been there. It's been a lot of splitting with them. Also I know some of the fan base is still pouting over Arkansas and Ole Miss. Just get a top five win. Hopefully everyone can move on from that bad week and realize this is still a very good basketball.

Ryan Lemond (13:38)

In the sec. When the poll came out yesterday, the SEC has four of the top five teams in the country. How about the iron bowl is 1 2.

Shannon The Dude (13:48)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (13:49)

Here's an interesting stat. Auburn Alabama ranked 1 2. They're going to play Saturday will be the first time the number one and two teams have played each other in the regular season since Calipari did it at Memphis against Tennessee. Really in 2008 there has not been the number one and two teams play each other. And if I were to tell you that stat, give me the last two number one and two teams play each other. Who would say Auburn, Alabama and Memphis Tennessee. But that's what it, it's. It'll end up being.

Evan (14:20)

I remember that Pearl Calgary, that game was awesome back when they had like a million Smiths on Tennessee.

Ryan Lemond (14:26)

It was a Saturday night and they played like in February. I continue to be on the path of we should play big non conference college basketball rivalries in February. Like this weekend should be the weekend that Kentucky plays Kansas and you know, Duke plays Connecticut or something like to get people back into to college basketball.

Shannon The Dude (14:49)

It's funny. You validate the point. We all remember that Tennessee Memphis game because it was a big deal. They promoted the heck out of.

Ryan Lemond (14:55)

Imagine if you just did. Like what if we played Louisville this week?

Shannon The Dude (14:58)

It'd be huge.

Ryan Lemond (14:59)

I mean that would be you know, lul's good. Like that would have been a game we all looked forward to all year. I, I've, I've always been a big promoter because Memphis and Tennessee used to do that. Duke's playing Illinois either this weekend or next weekend which I think is a smart thing that we should. There should be more of those games Drew in the, in the conference season.

Evan (15:17)

I'll even add someone else said this on the Internet. I'll steal it but they should do that marathon right the day after the super just to completely flip the switch into basketball mode and you'll. We all have that little missing football hangover once the super bowl ends. Just load up on as many good basketball games as you can. Still that momentum.

Ryan Lemond (15:33)

I totally agree with that. I saw that. I saw that post too. I thought that was a. I Think.

Evan (15:36)

That was former KSR writer Bobby Reagan.

Ryan Lemond (15:39)

Yeah, I thought that was a really. A really smart one as well. Do you feel at all positive about tonight?

Shannon The Dude (15:45)

I do. I mean, I don't think Tennessee is going to miss 34, three pointers, whatever it was like they did last game. I mean, they get. But Tennessee's defense is gonna probably tune it up, try to keep Kentucky from scoring a lot of points. I think it'll be a low scoring game tonight.

Evan (15:58)

I actually feel a little too good. I'm a little worried about how good I feel. I just think it's a great matchup. As we saw down there. Pope, he's gonna just let them shoot threes.

Ryan Lemond (16:06)

Now.

Evan (16:06)

They're probably not going to take 45, 11 for 45, or whatever it was, but, I mean, the formula is still going to be the same. Just dare Tennessee to shoot, and hopefully it's not a good night for them. They don't. Tennessee doesn't like playing this way. They'd rather be in a rock fight.

Ryan Lemond (16:19)

Do you. Do you like my hoodie?

Shannon The Dude (16:21)

I do. North Alabama?

Ryan Lemond (16:22)

Yeah.

Shannon The Dude (16:23)

I believe that's in Huntsville, Alabama.

Ryan Lemond (16:24)

I do, like, once every six weeks or so.

Shannon The Dude (16:27)

What's that?

Ryan Lemond (16:27)

I'll go, I think I need a new hoodie. And I'll go, all right, let's look at the college basketball games tonight. Pick a number like 1 through 50, and you would say to me, like, 26. Then I'd go home or away, and whatever team is home or away.

Shannon The Dude (16:43)

No way.

Ryan Lemond (16:44)

I just go online and buy their hoodie.

Shannon The Dude (16:45)

And that's how you got that hoodie?

Ryan Lemond (16:47)

Yeah. You want to play it?

Shannon The Dude (16:48)

Okay, let's do it.

Ryan Lemond (16:48)

Let's play it right now. I'll go to. I'll go to the games on Saturday.

Shannon The Dude (16:51)

Okay.

Ryan Lemond (16:52)

Okay, so give me just a second. I'm gonna go to games on Saturday. You're good. This is gonna be the next hoodie I purchased, so be. Be very careful. All right, so. Well, here we go. All right, give me a number. One through 40.

Shannon The Dude (17:03)

I always pick 11.

Ryan Lemond (17:04)

All right. Three, six, nine, 10, 11. All right. Home or away?

Shannon The Dude (17:09)

We gotta go home.

Ryan Lemond (17:11)

Home. Indiana State.

Shannon The Dude (17:13)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (17:17)

So my next one will be Indiana State because of you. I'll get a sycamore hood.

Shannon The Dude (17:22)

I go. So we kind of jumped on their bandwagon with Cream Abdul Jabbar last year.

Ryan Lemond (17:25)

So now we'll get a hoodie. Thank you very much. Yeah. 859-280-22-2837. Ask anything Tuesday. We'll take a break. Be right back. This is ksr. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season. Well, you are with all the ways to get in on the action at the Draft King Sportsbook, their official sports betting partner of the NBA. From monster slams to dishing the Rock to cleaning the glass, get behind your favorite players and the prop bets you can make on DraftKings, the home of NBA player props. And here's something special for the first timers. New DraftKings customers bet $5 to get 150 in bonus bets instantly. Take it to the rack with the Draft King Sportsbook. Every point counts. Download the Draft King Sportsbook app and use the code KSR. That's KSR for new customers to get $150 in bonus bets. When you bet just $5 only at DraftKings, the Crown is yours. If you have a gaming problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER18 plus Kentucky only eligibility restricting supply new customers only bonus spec fire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms responsible gaming resources, see DKNG Co Audio.

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Ryan Lemond (21:01)

Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Some people are giving me other games that were in the snow.

Shannon The Dude (21:06)

Okay.

Ryan Lemond (21:07)

We played ole miss in 1994 here and apparently it was a massive snowstorm. Any memory of that game? I don't really remember that.

Shannon The Dude (21:15)

I don't either. Nope. Before I got here too. So I don't remember that.

Ryan Lemond (21:17)

Yeah, that was. Yeah, I lived in Middlesbrough so I don't know that I remember that. We also at one point in the 80s played St. Louis in a game where it was the lowest attendance because of snow and they opened up the crowd just for students.

Shannon The Dude (21:33)

Don't have any remember of hearing a story about that game either.

Ryan Lemond (21:37)

People keep sending me their tickets. I think I'm gonna have a lot of tickets to give away. So watch on social media today. I'll give some, I'll give some away that way too. And maybe on the pre show as well. See, that's cool.

Shannon The Dude (21:48)

That's why I think the environment, it'll be a great environment tonight for people. Be excited, you know, winning tickets at the last minute, get you fired up, get ready to go.

Ryan Lemond (21:55)

One person writes. So this is ask Anything Thursday question. Matt. I've been listening for a few years. Never understood why Werewolves of London. I get that question every couple years.

Shannon The Dude (22:04)

Yes.

Ryan Lemond (22:05)

The reason is one day in the first year I did the show, I walked in and my then boss Bill Gentry said you need to pick a theme song. I heart has a rule. Every show has to have a theme song. And I'd gone months, I guess not doing that rule. And I was like, oh. And he was like, just pick a song. But yeah, that's a pretty hefty decision, Shannon, to have to make like moments before the show.

Matt Jones (22:28)

Yeah, because usually you don't get to change it. It's kind of that for the rest of the show.

Ryan Lemond (22:33)

So I just, the day before I'd listen to Werewolves of London and it was on my mind and I was like, it's either Gordon Lightfoot Sundown.

Matt Jones (22:44)

That's a good one.

Ryan Lemond (22:44)

Or it's Werewolves of London. And I felt like Werewolves of London was more upbeat and then that became the theme and then it's now been attached to us forever. But it was just a random choice, Ryan, for, you know, just a minute.

Shannon The Dude (22:57)

And it feels like it's perfect. You know, you hear that song and now it is so associated with our show. It's like the perfect choice. Like you made the perfect choice on the spur of a moment.

Ryan Lemond (23:06)

When I give speeches now, people just play that when they come up. Like it's, you know, and it's so I'm, it has in my. It's like part of us now. And it was just a random quick choice.

Evan (23:16)

You are probably like me. I'll be out somewhere, maybe at a bar and even like the Kid Rock version will come on and it'll trigger my brain and I'll be like, am I late? Are we about to go on to it?

Ryan Lemond (23:24)

Where? Where? Welcome, everyone. This Kentucky Sports Radio. Yeah, Halloween, like they always play it like on football games and stuff at Halloween. And then it, it will start to do it.

Evan (23:33)

At any point in the 14ish years, have you been driving around and thought, man, I wish it had been this song. Like something's come on. You thought if I could go back in time, I would have made it.

Ryan Lemond (23:43)

Yeah, that's a good question. No, I like it. I think it's, I think it gets the mood of the show. I like it. And you know, when I used to do the Matt Jones podcast, which, spoiler alert, might come back play Lawyers, Guns and money.

Shannon The Dude (24:00)

Yes.

Ryan Lemond (24:01)

Which was good because I was a lawyer. I like money. And well, the guns part. Come and take it if you want it, come and get it. Yeah, I've always been like that. So I feel like it's kind of, that's kind of part of it. 859-280-2287. Another thing about the game today, Sports center is on UK's campus today. So Sports center is here from noon to 3 on ESPN. If you turn it on, they are live from UK the whole time. Mark Pope is going to be on. Lamont Butler, Georgia Amore and Mark Stoops are all going to be on ESPN from noon to three. It is basically a UK campus takeover of SportsCenter. Isn't that cool?

Shannon The Dude (24:49)

I didn't know that. Is there any reason why just because of the.

Ryan Lemond (24:52)

I, I don't. I think just because they're here for the game and sometimes they, you know, they do this. I saw them do it with South Carolina women's basketball a couple weeks ago. I guess they just decided do it today. But that's, that's very cool for uk, isn't it?

Shannon The Dude (25:04)

Very cool. Give a chance to Georgia Amore to step up and publicize even though they got beat last night. Publicize their great season.

Ryan Lemond (25:10)

They lost last night. That wasn't good.

Shannon The Dude (25:12)

Stoops and football, you know, trying to get. Re. Energize the program there. Get him on.

Ryan Lemond (25:16)

Those of you that online ever watch at night the show field of 68 which has Jeff Goodman and Rob Doster and those guys, they're in Lexington. So they will be doing their, their show tonight from Rupp Arena. So like they'll be. So when they do their like nightly wrap up show, they will be in Rupp tonight.

Evan (25:38)

They don't have to go out in the cold like I do.

Ryan Lemond (25:40)

No, I don't have to do it in the snow. They don't have to do it in the snow. They're gonna, they're gonna be at Rupp. So. So for whatever reason, like the sports world has decided to descend on Lexington in this snow today.

Shannon The Dude (25:50)

Yeah. Welcome to Lexington. All the snow now, correct me if I'm wrong, so they get to do it in Rupert. But yet Drew can't do his show in rup.

Ryan Lemond (25:59)

I don't want to. I don't want to think about it. It annoys me. But you know what? The outside has become part of the thing.

Evan (26:04)

I've got my hand warmers packed on the sports center thing. I'm glad they're doing this. You know, as someone that works from home and keeps TV on the background, daytime Sports center is pretty terrible. I don't even care what campus they want to go to. I'm glad it's Lexington but it needs some new life and having Billis here and bringing on even crossing sports with stoops and previewing the basketball game. I think it's a great idea for them to.

Ryan Lemond (26:22)

Yeah. Be very cool. Yeah. Billis will be on it too. I think. Was the other one.

Shannon The Dude (26:25)

Yeah.

Evan (26:26)

With him in town that makes who'.

Ryan Lemond (26:27)

Up fire Shannon Ask anything Danny. Go ahead, Danny. Hey, first time caller guys who are. Hey, I'm from Shelby county, home of Mike Casey, Charles Hurt and Terry Davis, Mr. Kentucky basketball. Hey, I got a prediction for the game tonight. 82, 78, Kentucky. Well, I hope you're right. 82, 78. I think 82 is kind of at the top end of amount of points I think we can score tonight, Drew, just with without having Jackson Robinson. So I'll take 82 and if we can hold Tennessee to under 80, we're good.

Evan (27:04)

I've already given my prediction. I won't share it because I want to see if you and I will pick the same score like we always do. But a hint, it is under 82, but it's a Kentucky win. I just think it's going to be a low scoring game. Tennessee doesn't like to get in these shootouts. When they won down there in Knoxville, it was in the 70s. So I don't think it's going to be a high scoring game, but I'm still feeling good about it.

Ryan Lemond (27:22)

I think the key is Ziegler, because you're right, we have played well against Ziegler over the years, but he is playing well. In the last few games he's had. He's had kind of a disappointing season, but then in the last few games has really turned it up. Yeah.

Shannon The Dude (27:35)

Right after the Kentucky game, I think he missed a couple games. He was hurt. Now he's been back and they played, you know, he just beat Florida. Then they beat Oklahoma, like by what, 20 on the road? So he's playing well.

Ryan Lemond (27:44)

Oklahoma on the road. Both Oklahoma and Texas, which are road games to come, have both kind of fallen off right before we go there. So maybe those two games are both winnable in an easier way than we thought they were. Drew, maybe a couple weeks ago.

Evan (27:59)

Yeah. And with Ziegler, when they played well without him, I even texted my Tennessee friends, like, are you all sure this guy's even good? Because every time he's out, he's been bad.

Ryan Lemond (28:06)

Yeah.

Evan (28:07)

Or every time I've seen him against Kentucky, he hasn't been much, but he's turned it on.

Ryan Lemond (28:10)

He had been really bad until the last three games or so, and then he's been much better. We'll take a break. 859-280-2287. Don't worry. I'm gonna make people mad in a little while. Cats and Vols, big night in Lexington right after this.

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Ryan Lemond (28:36)

So I love this song, but I don't know that it's a theme. You know, if you come in every day with this, it just does. I don't know if it's exciting enough because this was the other song I was thinking about. But I feel like this would be more like if I was gonna do like a love advice show. You know, I don't know if this would be a good theme for. For a morning show.

Evan (28:58)

Like, you have to talk real soft when the end of this one, it's.

Matt Jones (29:01)

Like NPR or something.

Ryan Lemond (29:05)

If I'm ever, like, if I take over for that Delilah, this is what I would use.

Shannon The Dude (29:10)

I think you should do that one day.

Ryan Lemond (29:12)

You think I should do a Delilah show?

Shannon The Dude (29:14)

Do a Delilah show one day.

Ryan Lemond (29:15)

Listen, for somebody who is in their 40s and not married, I think I give the best love. Why are you laughing at that? Why wouldn't I give the best love advice? Because unlike other people, I'm not prejudiced by being married. I can make. I can make the. The decision. I mean, I've been. When. When you're as. When you're single and as old as me, you've kind of been in every kind of relationship, good, bad, or indifferent. Like, I've. I've, you know, been through the wars.

Evan (29:48)

So we waiting for fire this thing up.

Matt Jones (29:50)

It's Mad Joe.

Ryan Lemond (29:55)

See, there's the theme. Well, here, I'll just go ahead and say this.

Shannon The Dude (29:59)

Okay.

Ryan Lemond (30:00)

So if I sign the new deal with iHeart, which hopefully will be done soon. Okay. I'll announce it when it happens. It's already way late. Like, I'm on like, the mo. I did tell them if we get to the NCAA tournament, it's not done. I'm not doing this anymore. But I think we're gonna get there. It includes with it a one hour show that will run all across the state on any topic I choose. And I've already said I think they think I'm gonna do politics, but I'm not doing politics. Maybe it's love advice.

Shannon The Dude (30:37)

One show has to be love advice from Uncle Matt.

Ryan Lemond (30:40)

Yeah, because they just say you get an hour on whatever. Maybe Drew, Love advice.

Evan (30:45)

What time of day would it run? If it's love advice, I can't say.

Ryan Lemond (30:48)

What time of day it is. But it has a set. It's already set it. But I don't think they want me to say that yet. When it would be. But it would be a set time and it would be available on the network if. If stations want to have it. And it's a. But. But like they. They said you can do Whatever you want on it. And Billy doesn't know this yet? Billy is the producer. Oh, Billy doesn't even know. I think that that's good. I'm not sure if I was supposed to say any of this, but anyway, that would be happening. Maybe love advice is the way to go.

Evan (31:16)

I tune in for a late night match.

Shannon The Dude (31:18)

I absolutely would tune in for that.

Ryan Lemond (31:20)

One person writes Matt for Ask Anything Tuesday. What has happened to Jamal Mashburn? I never hear about him. Everyone always says he's rich. What does he do? It's a good question. He is rich, but I don't know, Ryan. Besides, he owns a car dealership. I don't really know what he does.

Shannon The Dude (31:37)

I think he sits in his penthouse office and just dresses to the nines and enjoys raking in the cash every single day. I think he is.

Ryan Lemond (31:46)

So what all did he do to get rich? I know he owns part of the Lexus or he did at one point. He may not anymore own part of the Lexus. He had car dealerships with Patino. What else did he do?

Evan (31:57)

Big outback guy. A lot of outbacks.

Ryan Lemond (31:58)

Oh, he's an outback guy.

Evan (32:00)

Patino and the. The Lexington guy behind Outback Chris.

Ryan Lemond (32:04)

Really?

Evan (32:04)

They have a lot of outback, big outback guys.

Ryan Lemond (32:06)

I had no, I didn't know that. A lot of blooming onions.

Evan (32:09)

What else does he do himself?

Shannon The Dude (32:10)

I.

Ryan Lemond (32:11)

Because he's always known as an. As a former NBA player that really had success financially.

Shannon The Dude (32:15)

I bet. I'm just guessing. He owns probably 50 different businesses. I mean, the guy just has his fingers into everything. And good for him. Congratulations on what he's doing. Post basketball.

Evan (32:26)

He did. Am I crazy? Did he do a Kentucky game? Maybe a little bit of espn.

Ryan Lemond (32:30)

I thought he would be good at it. I'm surprised he didn't get into that more because he did do it. Maybe for a year.

Shannon The Dude (32:38)

Yeah.

Evan (32:38)

Maybe he just thought, why am I doing this?

Ryan Lemond (32:40)

But, you know, the thing is about espn. I've said this a lot. ESPN has two tiers of money. You either make a ton of money or you don't make any money. So, like Stephen A. Smith, ton of money. Pat McAfee, ton of money. But a lot of those people, when you turn on. And I'm not gonna say anybody's name, but like, when we watch college basketball and you see the studio shows, like, those guys don't make any money. Like, they just don't. I mean, I know who. The people I work with. Like, I know they don't. You don't make a Lot of money. So Jamal Mashburn may have been like, why am I going to Bristol for $50,000 when I make that sneezing every day.

Shannon The Dude (33:20)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (33:20)

You know, I think that you.

Shannon The Dude (33:22)

There may be some truth to that, that he's like, I can make more money investing my time in my businesses and not wasting it sitting on a desk talking about University of Illinois basketball.

Ryan Lemond (33:31)

Yeah.

Evan (33:31)

Especially with a son that was, you know, playing.

Ryan Lemond (33:34)

Do you all know that his son does Everybody. Jamal Mashburn Jr. Is second in the country in scoring.

Shannon The Dude (33:40)

No, I did not realize.

Ryan Lemond (33:41)

Did you know this?

Shannon The Dude (33:42)

No. Who's he played for?

Ryan Lemond (33:43)

I don't know.

Evan (33:44)

I wanted him out of the world so bad.

Ryan Lemond (33:46)

Troy, he is Temple. Temple. He is second in the country. I had no idea.

Shannon The Dude (33:52)

I remember him when he was up and coming. There were people hoping that Caliperi would recruit him, and there was no interest at all. And now look at his second the country in scoring.

Evan (34:00)

He was with young Patino there for a while. He was. I was hoping Pope would call him because he had a big year.

Ryan Lemond (34:05)

Last second in the country in scoring. I feel like we could find someplace for him if he wants to play. Who's up next? Next?

Matt Jones (34:10)

Let's go to Craig.

Ryan Lemond (34:11)

Craig, go ahead, Craig. Yes.

Shannon The Dude (34:16)

I live in Louisville, and I'd like to come up to Kentucky day to see the best team in America play.

Ryan Lemond (34:21)

Are you guys. We do not call and ask for tickets. Right. When we do the contest, we'll do contest for tickets, but we don't call and ask for tickets. Like, that's kind of a rule of the show. Right. So the concept.

Shannon The Dude (34:37)

How do I get into that?

Unknown (34:38)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (34:39)

Okay. Well, we'll. I'll announce that when it comes, but I. I appreciate the call we got. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I.

Matt Jones (34:47)

Now you know how I feel.

Ryan Lemond (34:49)

I mean, there's like. There's, like, people even now who are writing me on Twitter going, matt, if you need to give those away, I'd like to. I mean, I can handle the giving them away part. Like giving tickets away to a top five team in Ruby. Feel like that's not going to be difficult.

Shannon The Dude (35:05)

Don't be difficult at all. Not when it's Tennessee.

Ryan Lemond (35:07)

The deal is getting the tickets and people keep sending them. I'm going to have, like, 20 tickets to give away.

Evan (35:11)

But that's awesome.

Shannon The Dude (35:13)

I think it's awesome people like. Or at least want somebody to sit in their seats.

Ryan Lemond (35:16)

No, it does, but it does it worry.

Evan (35:19)

It is awesome that they're giving them and they will be replaced with people excited to go. But if you've already have that many, it makes me wonder how many people out there are on the fence.

Ryan Lemond (35:28)

I think it's gonna be a lot. But I would say to you, if you're not gonna go, don't let them go unused because we've got to have a loud environment in there tonight. Like. Like this.

Shannon The Dude (35:38)

Yes.

Ryan Lemond (35:39)

This is our best chance. I mean, Tennessee is a favorite on our home floor. That doesn't happen very often, and they are favorite. We've got to be loud.

Shannon The Dude (35:48)

There's been times where that rubber in a crowd has helped, and Pope even mentioned it after the game, said, you guys were awesome. You guys absolutely helped us. I like how he admits, you know, our players can feed off that. So many coaches try to say, well, the. Once the ball goes up, they don't pay attention to it. It definitely helps.

Ryan Lemond (36:02)

Who's up next?

Matt Jones (36:03)

Let's go to Richard.

Ryan Lemond (36:05)

Richard. Go ahead, Richard.

Shannon The Dude (36:07)

Well, I hope to get in on the contest.

Ryan Lemond (36:14)

Look, folks, when we have the contest, I'll tell you about the contest. This is Ask anything Thursday or Tuesday.

Matt Jones (36:25)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (36:26)

Ask Anything does not ask me for tickets.

Evan (36:29)

Ask anything but tickets Tuesday.

Ryan Lemond (36:31)

Is the next person going to be on for ticket? Shannon? I don't know.

Matt Jones (36:34)

Let's see. Keaton.

Ryan Lemond (36:36)

Keaton. Go ahead, Keaton.

Evan (36:40)

Hey, Matt.

Ryan Lemond (36:40)

How are you doing today? I'm good, maybe. Do you think you're going to be the one? You know, he hasn't had. He's had like three straight games well. Really? Did he. Was it Tennessee. He shot well. I don't think he's had like three straight games where he's not made a shot. It doesn't.

Evan (37:01)

He played well. Tennessee well.

Ryan Lemond (37:02)

So I think Tennessee was actually the last game he played well. So maybe that gets back to what you know.

Shannon The Dude (37:07)

Yeah, that's when we went down there and Carr and Butler didn't place well. Almond or had to start. And he did. He played well, shot the ball well. He had that one game. We had nothing but zeros. Last game. At least he shot a couple shots. He just didn't make any shots.

Ryan Lemond (37:18)

I mean, car is going to take a lot of. I mean, a lot of his miss as it keeps going, which is good, I think. But still, I would like. I mean, Ansley's one of these guys, maybe more so than anyone else on the team. If Ansley's not going to shoot threes, like, man, you can't play because he doesn't play defense. He's not a particularly good rebounder. Like, dude, you gotta fire it right he's one of those guys, along with Robinson and Brea that I'm like, if you're open, shoot. And I feel that way about Almanac.

Evan (37:45)

He and Trent Noah both had huge games in Knoxville and then they're the two that had the. The trillions that will miss. So I'm hoping it's something with them seeing Tennessee Orange and they both play well tonight.

Ryan Lemond (37:55)

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Oh, great.

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And in the process, wow.

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All right. I'm a constitutional scholar, you know.

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Ryan Lemond (42:23)

Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio. Thanks to everybody who is sending the tickets. I'm going to give them away. I will give a couple away today. I'll do some on Social, then I'll do some in the pregame show. We're going to make sure we use all these tickets for tonight's game because I want them to be wanted to be ready to go. All right? So I'm going to go ahead and say to all my friends out there, and I love all you people, understand like this. I love all of you. Even those of you that are. Are mean to me sometimes, I still love you. This might be a moment, though, for the next five or six minutes that if you get easily mad, maybe just turn it off. Come back at 11:00, all right? We'll all be free. Just. I don't want to hear you complain about it. This is just something I'm going to talk about. If you get mad, like, just take it off. You can come back 11, we'll all be friends. Okay? So here's the. Here's the thing. I have been amazed at how little, and I say this with love, people know about how the government works. I've really seen this in the last few days. A lot of it are people on the right, but some of my people on the left don't understand it either. So I want to use you, Ryan, to just give a. This is just basics about government. It's not about any particular policy.

Shannon The Dude (43:37)

Gotcha.

Ryan Lemond (43:38)

Okay, so, Ryan, how many branches of government are there?

Shannon The Dude (43:43)

3.

Ryan Lemond (43:43)

Do you know what they are?

Shannon The Dude (43:45)

Executive.

Ryan Lemond (43:46)

Correct.

Shannon The Dude (43:47)

Judicial.

Ryan Lemond (43:48)

Correct.

Shannon The Dude (43:50)

Legislative.

Ryan Lemond (43:51)

Nice. All right. Nice job. That's a good stuff. All right. Who is the head of the executive branch?

Shannon The Dude (43:56)

President of the United States.

Ryan Lemond (43:57)

Correct. Who is. What are the main heads of the legislative branch?

Shannon The Dude (44:02)

The speaker of the House and the head senator guy.

Ryan Lemond (44:05)

Close enough. The House and the Senate, right?

Shannon The Dude (44:07)

Yeah.

Ryan Lemond (44:07)

And then what about the judicial branch?

Shannon The Dude (44:10)

The Supreme Court.

Ryan Lemond (44:11)

You're doing great. Okay, so what is the role of the executive in America? What is the role of the president?

Shannon The Dude (44:19)

You oversee the military.

Ryan Lemond (44:21)

That's part of it, yes.

Shannon The Dude (44:22)

Yeah. And you make executive orders.

Ryan Lemond (44:28)

Not exactly. The role of the executive is to enforce the laws.

Shannon The Dude (44:32)

Enforce the laws.

Ryan Lemond (44:33)

Okay. That's what the president does. He enforces the laws. And now there are other things that go in that. What's the role of the legislative branch?

Shannon The Dude (44:41)

They make the law.

Ryan Lemond (44:42)

They make the laws. That's exactly right. Then what does the judicial branch do?

Shannon The Dude (44:46)

They enforce the laws.

Ryan Lemond (44:48)

I already told you, that's what the executive does. What does the judicial branch do?

Shannon The Dude (44:52)

Decide about the laws.

Ryan Lemond (44:54)

Yes. They Decide disputes, and then they decide what the laws mean, what the Constitution means, what the laws mean. So when a law is passed, sometimes it's like, well, did it mean this or did it mean that? The. The judicial branch decides what it means?

Evan (45:11)

They interpret it.

Ryan Lemond (45:12)

Interpret it. That's even a better word.

Shannon The Dude (45:14)

Good.

Ryan Lemond (45:14)

Okay, so let's talk about what, about what presidents do. Okay, Presidents, you hear a lot about executive orders, right? What does that mean? Do you know that what.

Shannon The Dude (45:27)

Whatever he says is enforced no matter what.

Ryan Lemond (45:30)

So here's what it's supposed to mean. The legislature puts out a law. Sometimes they give the executive power to do certain things. Then the President says, this power I'm using in this way, right? So I have the power to do this, and I'm going to use it like that. Makes sense.

Shannon The Dude (45:53)

Makes total sense.

Ryan Lemond (45:53)

Okay. Now, oftentimes, presidents go too far. They're only allowed to do this, but they go and do this, and then what happens? A court comes in and says, you're using your power too much. So I'll give you an example. Joe Biden tried to cancel student loans. The Supreme Court said he didn't have the power to do that. They came in and said, you can't do that. Trump, over the years, did a lot of those, and a lot of those got shot down. Which brings me to today. Trump and Elon Musk are doing various things. I can't even keep up with what all is being done. But one of the things they're doing is they say they're looking for fraud in various branches of government. Now, you know there's various departments in the executive branch, Department of, Treasury Department, Secretary of State, all that. Congress creates those departments. And if Congress creates a department, the President can't just do away with it. People don't realize that. He can't just shut down departments. That's against the Constitution. So the President has given Elon Musk and those people the ability to go in and do things. And some people are suing, saying Elon Musk is doing things he cannot do. Now, let me just say, I don't know if they're right or not. I don't know what Elon Musk is doing. I'm not really sure what the law is. But when somebody sues and says Elon Musk can't do this, who decides?

Shannon The Dude (47:25)

The judicial branch.

Ryan Lemond (47:26)

The judicial branch. Now, here has been my worry all the time with Trump. I think I said this when he was elected. It's not what his policies are. He should get to do his policies. He Won the election. Right. But when the judicial branch comes in and says, Mr. Trump, you've done something you don't have the power to do. What has worried me is the job of the president to enforce the orders of the judicial branch. What if he just says, no, I won't do it? Then you have a crisis, because the separation of powers goes away. Because if the president gets to decide which judicial things he will listen to and which he won't, then he's the king.

Shannon The Dude (48:14)

Yeah, right.

Ryan Lemond (48:16)

Well, he's claiming he's gonna do that, and in American history, that's never been done. And that worries me. And so I want people to understand when they hear all about this. This judge stopped this, this did this. It's not about the particular thing. It's about the separation of powers. And I'm worried, Ryan, that we're getting to a point where everybody just loves Trump so much, they're willing to give all the power in the government to him, and that's a dictatorship. That's not a government. Does that make sense?

Shannon The Dude (48:50)

It makes total sense.

Ryan Lemond (48:51)

Are you Fuck. Did you follow?

Shannon The Dude (48:52)

I actually followed that. So things he wants, the judicial branch says, no, he's gonna go ahead and do it anyway.

Ryan Lemond (48:59)

But Scott Jennings, who's from Kentucky, went on CNN and said he should not follow it, do what he wants. Scott is smarter than that. He's saying that because he wants to be Trump's press secretary. But if Trump were to do that, all I would ask people is, can you imagine if a Democratic president was just like, I'm doing whatever I'm gonna want. We can't have that. So that's what worries me. People have always said, oh, why do you dislike Trump so much? I don't dislike him. Well, I don't like him, but he should be able to do whatever he.

Shannon The Dude (49:31)

What.

Ryan Lemond (49:31)

What it was in. Within his power. But you can't get away from the separation of powers. That's bad.

Shannon The Dude (49:37)

That's why we have checks and balances in place to kind of prevent that.

Ryan Lemond (49:39)

But we have to keep those. If we lose those, we become something else, which is not what I think.

Shannon The Dude (49:47)

People want, not what the United States is all about.

Evan (49:49)

Yes, we've made it a long time with our checks and our balances.

Ryan Lemond (49:52)

We've been very helpful. There was only one time in history we almost got to this point. The Supreme Court told Richard Nixon, release the tapes, the Watergate tapes, and he said no. And we were about to get a crisis. And then all the people talked him into resigning, and he did. I worry we're headed towards that crisis again. Because if the Supreme Court says do this and Trump says, I won't, then what?

Shannon The Dude (50:19)

He won't.

Ryan Lemond (50:20)

He won't. And then we have a king. We don't have a president. We have a king. And that's really not what America is.

Shannon The Dude (50:31)

A lot of the people I think would be okay with that. That's what kind of scares me.

Ryan Lemond (50:35)

That's what scares me too. Not just about him. I think there's a lot of people on the left that are cool with having a king too, as long as they're doing what like we. But that's not what America is. At least to me. Now I'll shut up about it.

Shannon The Dude (50:48)

Good little lesson.

Ryan Lemond (50:49)

Go back to Ryan.

Evan (50:51)

By the way, as you move on, I feel like that's a A on that goes on.

Ryan Lemond (50:54)

I didn't think you would get all three branches ago.

Shannon The Dude (50:56)

I got an A.

Ryan Lemond (50:57)

And you even knew the word. What was the word you came up with? Interpret.

Shannon The Dude (51:01)

Sure.

Matt Jones (51:02)

No, Drew came up with that.

Shannon The Dude (51:03)

Oh yeah, that was true.

Evan (51:05)

Well, he can read.

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