2025-03-03- KSR - Hour 2

Summary

Podcast Summary: KSR – Hour 2
Release Date: March 3, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Sports Talk 790 (WKRD-AM)
Title: KSR - Hour 2

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1. Introduction and Audiobook Recording Insights

Timestamp: 01:30 - 02:35

Matt Jones kicks off Hour 2 of Kentucky Sports Radio, introducing Ryan Lemond and Drew Franklin. The hosts delve into the world of audiobooks, reminiscing about Ryan's experience recording Mitch's audiobook, which took approximately 15 hours in the studio.

Ryan Lemond shares, “I use different voices for different characters,” adding, “I have like three [voices], and they all kind of sound alike, to be honest with you.” Drew Franklin humorously comments, “You’re like Frank Caliento,” highlighting Ryan's knack for impressions.

2. Meyer Metcalf’s Radio Debut and Catchphrase Challenge

Timestamp: 02:35 - 05:00

The conversation shifts to Meyer Metcalf's unprecedented opportunity when ESPN allowed him to call a college basketball game on the radio. Ryan recounts advising Metcalf, saying, “I’m not the guy to ask” about play-by-play tips, yet Metcalf sought advice on developing a catchphrase.

Metcalf introduces his catchphrase, “Tell your friends about me,” during a game broadcast. Ryan plays a clip (which initially fails to load) and discusses the potential of the catchphrase with Drew and Matt. While Matt finds the catchphrase a bit forced, Ryan defends it, “I like it. Tell Your friends About me. Drew, it's unique.”

3. Wrestling Segment: John Cena’s Heel Turn

Timestamp: 08:04 - 11:24

The hosts pivot to professional wrestling, discussing the surprising turn of John Cena from a perennial good guy to a heel (villain) at WrestleMania. Ryan exclaims, “He’s the nicest guy in wrestling turns heel,” noting Cena's extensive involvement in Make-A-Wish Foundation activities.

Drew Franklin responds positively, stating, “Everyone needs to be the bad guy for a little bit. It’s wrestling.” However, concerns arise about the impact on young fans, with Matt observing, “Did you see the kids crying?”

The panel debates the rationale behind Cena's heel turn, speculating it's due to an alliance with The Rock, another prominent heel. They also discuss Travis Scott’s unexpected appearance and Cena's microphone drop during his interview, which revealed personal grievances.

4. College Basketball Officiating Controversies

Timestamp: 11:40 - 15:30

A caller named Clayton brings up Fayette County’s first state wrestling championship win by the Lafayette Generals, prompting congratulations from the hosts. The conversation then shifts to college basketball officiating woes, with callers Ronnie and Edie expressing frustration over excessive monitor reviews leading to extended game durations.

Ryan criticizes the current officiating system: “They’re going to the monitor about everything,” leading to games stretching beyond the typical two-hour mark. Drew Franklin adds, “The loudest moments on Saturday, I think we’re booing the refs at the monitor.”

The panel advocates for a streamlined review process, suggesting, “Each coach have one review challenge,” and emulating the NFL’s swift decision-making to improve game flow and viewer experience.

5. Book Discussion: "Kentucky Stallions" by Kristin Lee

Timestamp: 17:00 - 19:15

Ryan introduces "Kentucky Stallions," a fantasy series by Kristin Lee, where athletes are the protagonists instead of traditional fantasy figures like vampires or fairies. The series features one stallion from each sport, intertwined with romantic storylines.

Ryan humorously suggests, “Can we write one where the radio host is the protagonist?” while Matt expresses interest in the genre, highlighting its unique take on incorporating sports into fantasy narratives.

6. Addressing Online Harassment in Sports

Timestamp: 25:00 - 34:00

A significant segment focuses on the troubling issue of online harassment faced by athletes, sparked by Kansas player Zeke Rose’s experience after a poor performance. Ryan narrates Rose’s ordeal, where abusive messages and racial slurs flooded his Twitter following, leading to public apologies and discussions about the role of social media in athlete well-being.

Drew Franklin supports Rose’s decision to publicly address the harassment, stating, “I wish all four had names because it was so bad,” emphasizing the need for accountability and consequences for online abuse.

Matt and Ryan agree on the detrimental effects of such behavior, with Matt reflecting, “I’m just glad that social media did not exist when I was this age,” underscoring the amplified impact of digital platforms on young athletes today.

7. Music Segment and Upcoming Events

Timestamp: 34:00 - 36:54

The hosts briefly discuss upcoming music events, mentioning Sammy Kershaw's performance at the Boyd County Fairgrounds alongside artists like Kid Rock and Nickelback. Ryan recommends attending, despite the inclusion of artists some may find controversial, and they joke about sneaking out early to avoid certain performances.

8. Pete Rose Hall of Fame Debate

Timestamp: 36:54 - 41:43

The conversation shifts to Major League Baseball's consideration of Pete Rose for the Hall of Fame following his pardon by former President Donald Trump. Ryan vehemently criticizes MLB's timing and stance, stating, “He’s dead, but they’re considering him now because Trump pardoned him.”

Drew Franklin and Matt Jones echo the sentiment, advocating for Rose's inclusion based solely on his baseball achievements, independent of his personal controversies. They argue that the Hall of Fame should recognize athletic prowess without delving into the individual's personal failings.

9. Comparing Athletic Skills: Travis Hunter vs. Shohei Ohtani

Timestamp: 41:43 - 43:25

The hosts engage in a spirited debate comparing the athletic demands of playing both offense and defense in football, as Travis Hunter does, versus Shohei Ohtani's dual role as a pitcher and hitter in baseball. Matt asserts, “Hitting a baseball is harder than anything in sports,” while Ryan counterclaims the complexity of managing dual roles in football.

Drew Franklin offers a balanced view, suggesting that while both roles require versatility, Ohtani’s dual responsibilities in baseball are exceptionally demanding.

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Notable Quotes

• Ryan Lemond [02:35]: “I’m almost like, you know, a master of impressions.”
• Matt Jones [08:04]: “That's right.”
• Ryan Lemond [08:34]: “John Cena is the only one I can think of that had gone his whole career only being a good guy.”
• Drew Franklin [09:52]: “Everyone needs to be the bad guy for a little bit. It’s wrestling.”
• Ryan Lemond [15:18]: “The ratings are way up for college basketball this year.”
• Drew Franklin [23:18]: “The officials have just been bad in general all year.”
• Ryan Lemond [28:23]: “He couldn’t get away from it, never be everywhere.”
• Drew Franklin [40:44]: “It's the Baseball hall of Fame, not the Life Hall of Fame.”

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Conclusion

Hour 2 of KSR delves deep into a variety of sports-related topics, from the intricacies of audiobook recordings and unexpected turns in professional wrestling to pressing issues like officiating in college basketball and the darker side of athlete-fan interactions on social media. The hosts engage in thoughtful debates, offer insights, and maintain an entertaining dynamic throughout the episode, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts seeking both information and engaging discussions.

Transcript

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[Matt Jones]

Welcome to hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

[Ryan Lemond]

Welcome back. Hour number two, Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-2287. The good thing about talking about books on audio is how many people tell me Ryan, they listened to Mitch, please. That took so long to record that audiobook. I remember you saying that it was like 15 hours in the studio.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Now what I didn't realize though that you used your your different voices for different characters and stuff.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, so it was me. Then Tomlin came in and did his parts. We actually had a couple people that are in the book who came and did their own parts right when they were talking to me. There's one, I won't spoil it if you've never heard it, but there's one who's a pretty prominent character who does his own voice and then I would do some voices sometimes, you know, because I'm almost like, you know, a master of impressions, Drew. So I would do some voices sometimes.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, you're like Frank Caliento.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, a little bit. Little bit.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Would you do your wukash?

[Drew Franklin]

You got a woo.

[Ryan Lemond]

I do woo.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I do the crazy old man voice.

[Ryan Lemond]

And my British voice. I have like three and that's it. They all kind of sound alike, to be honest with you. But that's all right. All right, so I want to play something. Ryan Meyer Metcalf. ESPN decided to let Meyer Metcalf call a college basketball game on the radio. All right. He did Clemson, Virginia, Free S P and radio.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

All right.

[Ryan Lemond]

So I talked to him the week before and he was a little nervous because he said, you know, never done this before. Do I have any tips? And I was like, well, I've never done a play by play for a game before, so I'm not the guy to ask. He said, I just don't want to be too excited. And so I got to listen to some of the game. This was last week, and he was a little overly excited, but he did good. But he was wanting to figure out Drew, a catchphrase. All right. He wants to have a catchphrase.

[Drew Franklin]

You can't force one.

[Ryan Lemond]

I agree, but. But he didn't ask me about the catchphrase. So he came up with a catchphrase and he waited for the moment to hit. Shannon, are you ready to hear Byron Metcalf dropping his catchphrase last Saturday, Virginia and Clemson.

[Matt Jones]

Let's do it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Catchphrase, Myron. Here we go. Eight seconds on the shot clock. Something has to happen. Andrew Roddy tries to make it happen. And Anthony Robinson says, tell your friends about me. There you go.

[Matt Jones]

Tell your friends.

[Ryan Lemond]

Tell your friends about me. Just. Now play the I isolate it. See if you think this is a good catchphrase. Go.

[Matt Jones]

It's not opening. Now what this is. We couldn't open the media file. Let me.

[Ryan Lemond]

I will just play the whole clip.

[Matt Jones]

Again, close it out and go back in. Good Lord.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, See, this is why I need Billy. Billy may be harsh, Ryan, but he gets the. He gets the production ready.

[Matt Jones]

I had it ready. It just wouldn't go.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, well, yippee skippy. I was ready to be excited. What do you think, right about tell your friends about me?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

It didn't sound like it was forced. I thought it kind of sounded a little natural. I know. You know, this is Mondays with Myron, as we love Mondays with Myron, but I don't know if that one's going to catch on.

[Ryan Lemond]

Why not? I like it. Tell Your friends About me. Drew, it's unique.

[Drew Franklin]

It's. Now it's Myron's thing. I guess he's got to stick with it.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Have you heard with it?

[Ryan Lemond]

Ever heard anybody else do it? No.

[Drew Franklin]

Is that, Is it a reference to anything or he just come up with that?

[Ryan Lemond]

He came up with him on the plane to Washington D.C. and on the drive to Virginia. All right, let's do it again. One more time. I like it. Perfect. All right. I think if you look on that email, Shannon, I think he had one more. Is there one on there that says something about a search engine? Do you see that one? Let's see. There's one more on there that I think three pointer.

[Matt Jones]

There's one ESPN radio.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, okay. I guess he doesn't have that. He also had one that said Google me, which I liked. Google me. So congrats to my friends about me. Oh, yeah, that's a little angry. I think when you isolate it though, it sounds kind of awesome. Shannon. I think that needs to go into our drops. I like it when something happens. I think you hit those drops. Tell your friends about me. That's exactly right. 859280, 2287. They had the Oscars last night. Anora won for best picture. Ryan, are you going to watch it?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I'm probably not going to watch it. I don't know anything about it, but I know they won.

[Ryan Lemond]

I just told you Friday what it was about. But you don't remember, right?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Don't have any memory.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think if I tell him what it's about, Drew, he'll want to watch it. That's why I almost don't want to tell him what it's about. Because then he'll want to watch it.

[Drew Franklin]

Let him be surprised. Now that he knows it's an award winning film, he doesn't need to know the.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's exactly right. Ryan, why don't you just watch it?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Don't know anything about it. And then tell me if you like it. Just go in straight.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I know it won a lot of awards last night. It's like an independent film.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's an independent film. It's, it's, it's. It's actually very good. I think you'll like it. I'm not genuinely do. I think you'll like it. And then the woman from that won an award.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

The guy, Best actress.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Best actor was the guy from the brutalist, Adrien Brody. You would not like that movie. I also. What's his name from Succession one, Roman Kieran. Culkin, Macaulay Culkin's brother. He won basically for playing the same character he plays in succession in a different movie.

[Drew Franklin]

Best speech of the night too. I don't know if you saw it, but his wife told him at one point that can have more kids if he ever wins an Oscar, like jokingly. So he got up there and looked at his wife. He's like, I didn't forget that comment.

[Ryan Lemond]

So he. So he. So now he has to have another kid.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he wanted a kid after he. They won a Golden Globe. And she said, talk to me when you win an Oscar. Kind of, you know, pushing him off. And then he called her out. He said he hadn't mentioned to it one time before that speech. So, yeah, he had a pretty funny speech there.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, that's good. Good for you. I wonder if he's like, you know, when he plays Roman on Succession, he's a certain kind of thing. You think he's like that in real life or is that just like a complete character? Because he so wrapped up to what he's like on that show. In my mind, his speech, it felt.

[Drew Franklin]

Like he was watching Roman. He's still kind of that smart aleck funny guy. So I think so.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's great on. On Succession. So Anora is the. Is the big winner. And finally, Shannon, John Cena.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Former OVW superstar, for the first time in his wrestling career, becomes a heel.

[Matt Jones]

That's right.

[Ryan Lemond]

He. He is. Has there. I was trying to think of this. Has there ever been a wrestler, Shannon, that was a superstar that was never a bad guy.

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Ryan Lemond]

Or a bad guy that was never a good guy. Have you ever. Can you ever think of one that never switched sides?

[Matt Jones]

No. No. I mean, that would have been John Cena.

[Ryan Lemond]

John Cena is the only one I can think of that had gone his whole career only being a good guy. And then Saturday night, Ryan, he becomes a bad guy. He turns on Cody Rhodes, another OVW guy. Another OVW guy, beats him up and becomes a bad guy for the first time in his career at the age of 43 or whatever.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Why? He's like mega Superstar.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's what all of the wrestling world is asking. Why would he do that?

[Matt Jones]

Because he's joining the Rock.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's joining the Rock to perform.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Bad guy, too.

[Ryan Lemond]

The Rock's a bad guy too. They're performing a Hollywood alliance.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Oh, boy.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, who would you want on your side, Cody Rhodes or the Rock? I'd want the Rock.

[Ryan Lemond]

So there you go. John Cena. First, here's what's crazy. You know, he does. He's like. Everybody who knows John Cena says he's like one of the greatest guys ever. He does a lot of make a wish stuff. He's done, like 150 make a wish things. Shannon. He did a make a wish thing that day right before the event.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

And then became a bad guy.

[Matt Jones]

Did you see the kids crying?

[Ryan Lemond]

The kids were crying.

[Matt Jones]

When he turned, so.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can you believe he would do that? Drew, like, the nicest guy in wrestling turns heel.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it's kind of awesome. I mean, everyone needs to be the bad guy for a little bit. It's wrestling. The kids might not get over it, but I think it's a good. I don't know how much he has left in his career, but a good last storyline for him. I wonder why Travis Scott was there, though. He. I mean, I don't watch it closely enough. Why was he punching?

[Ryan Lemond]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And did you see? He actually punched him really hard. I don't think. Yeah, mean. Go, go. Watch that punch. Somebody needs to work with Travis. That was not. I bet Cody Rhodes didn't like that a whole lot.

[Matt Jones]

Probably not. What title was he carrying around?

[Ryan Lemond]

Like, it's like you. You just create your own title, walk.

[Matt Jones]

Around with their own title belt.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, well, it's a good question.

[Matt Jones]

Looks. You think maybe they're watching the ovw?

[Ryan Lemond]

Maybe so. I can't think of anyone ever only being on one side. I'll be honest. It makes me now want to watch it and see what they do about it. But the kids, Ryan, what about the kids? What are they going to do?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Breaks my heart if they're out in the crying because their heroes switched to be a bad guy. Is there some big event coming up? Is that why they're trying to set this up?

[Ryan Lemond]

It's called WrestleMania. Yeah. It's usually the same weekend as the final Four. So anyway, a very shocking set of circumstances there for. For. For. For Mr. Scene. Oh, yeah. In an interview, Ryan. They asked him why he did it, and he dropped the mic. Then later, he was talking to somebody and said, I got mad because when I came back, they made fun of my bald spot.

[Matt Jones]

Aha.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Oh, that's true.

[Ryan Lemond]

They did do that. They did. They did do that.

[Matt Jones]

When he returned chanting, you know, let's go, Cena. Cena sucks. For a decade at least.

[Ryan Lemond]

Now, there you go. All right, let's go to Clayton. What's up, Clayton?

[Caller (Clayton)]

Well, since you brought up wrestling, this past weekend, for the first time in Fayette county school history, a team won a state wrestling championship. And that would be the Lafayette Generals.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, didn't Union county win? Oh, the Lafayette girls. Okay, gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah.

[Caller (Clayton)]

Union County. Yeah, they won. But they were 100 points.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Well, congrats to Lafayette. I spoke there a couple months ago. Probably Ryan gave him some. Some confidence to go win the. Win the state. What else you got?

[Caller (Clayton)]

What else do I have? Well, one other thing I wanted to tell you guys is if we just gotta. We need to stay away from Auburn. We need to stay away from. We need to stay away from all the top 10 teams.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, well, you can't do that. I appreciate. I appreciate the call. You're not allowed to stay away from all of them. And we're getting. We have all our guards that we're going to have because we're not going to have Jackson Robinson and we're not going to have Kirk Risa. So the team we have is a team. We're going to have. Ronnie. Go ahead, Ronnie.

[Caller (Ronnie)]

So I was seriously anticipating when the game came back on TV after the outage that they. They would be under an official review again. Still, they've got to do something about it. It is ridiculous. And it totally just stop any momentum anybody has it all. It was ridiculous.

[Ryan Lemond]

The reviews are ridiculous. They're out of control. They're out of control. They got to do something about this in the off season. They go to the review. J. Billis is exactly right. Let each coach have one review challenge. That's it. They go to it way too much. They got, you know, the flagrant. They called on Butler. He didn't even blow the whistle in real time. Now if you look at the monitor, I can see why they called it a flagrant. But if it was, if, if it wasn't even in real time, how you going to the monitor? And now they're going to the monitor about everything. They're going to the monitor about whether a ball goes out of bounds. 10 minutes with left in the first half. Like, stop it. That. It's, it's. Take that. First half took an hour and 20 minutes. I'm with you, man. It's absurd. Appreciate the call. I can handle it. Drew, at the end of games because you want to get it right. But at the beginning of games, they went to the monitor five times in the first half. That is ridiculous.

[Drew Franklin]

The loudest moments on Saturday, I think we're booing the refs at the monitor. And they couldn't go to the monitor anymore after the broadcast went out. And I think if, if the broadcast hadn't messed up, I think we would have had a three hour game because it went two hours and like 42 minutes. You give them a few more CH and that would have been a three hour basketball.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, they Ryan, they wanted to go to the monitor again and it was out and they couldn't. I do like that.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I agree with you guys, man. Just give each coach one and if he, if it's right he gets to keep it. But if he, if he did wrong and boom, he loses it. Dude. It's getting ridiculous.

[Drew Franklin]

Also that and how they're scheduling these two hour games. We've had three straight games where you saw like just three fourths of a Kentucky basketball game. If you know, if you're not switching the app with it's the eight minute timeout in the in Oklahoma. Before that is eight minute timeout in Alabama. And this game you miss most the second half. It's just becoming a horrible product on tv.

[Ryan Lemond]

You just have to the ratings are way up for college basketball this year. The next step, get rid of the monitor reviews or make it Shannon where it just takes a second. Like we can all see it. Watch it one time. Here's my view. Watch it one time. If it doesn't flip what you called on the floor, then that's it. There's no reason to slow it down to eight times.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, we can watch it at home and have our mind made up in seconds. They take two or three minutes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Make 10 seconds. Be like the NFL. Have someone that's not there do it right. It'll be done instantaneously.

[Matt Jones]

Yep.

[Ryan Lemond]

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[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

It's just getting like you said when it doesn't matter. In the middle of the first half, they're checking on who the ball went out of bounds on.

[Ryan Lemond]

And then you made the call. You watch the women's game. It gets done in like an hour and 45 minutes. Drew like it. Like those games don't take as long. They just let them go play.

[Drew Franklin]

I looked this up recently for the website, but there's been one SEC game that's lasted two hours for Kentucky. All others have been at least two hours and 15 minutes.

[Ryan Lemond]

That's.

[Drew Franklin]

The two hour games don't exist anymore.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, that's that. That's wild. 859-280-2287. Copa open lines. How about this, Shannon? Somebody just wrote me. The author actually wrote me. Did you know there is a. A fantasy that we were talking about? Author from Kentucky, except she writes books where the protagonists are not like vampires or fairies. They're athletes. Okay. And they're called Kentucky Stallions. One stallion from each sport. And the women who steal their hearts also have their toes curled. Now, the author's name is Kristin Lee and I'm gonna. Can I read you the names of the books? The book about baseball, all your fault. Don't really know what that is, but that's okay. The book about hockey is called on the ground. But then the next two, Kristin gets a little spicy. The one about football is called called on the Knees, and the one about basketball is out of bounds. So there you go, Campus Stallions.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

We know what Sarah's gonna be listening to.

[Matt Jones]

I've got some suggestions. Can we write one where the radio host is the protagonist? That would be great.

[Ryan Lemond]

Is it Billy? Is it Billy?

[Matt Jones]

Oh, is it Billy? Oh, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Oh, Billy is what we'll call it.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, and. All right. Oh, Billy. It works. But by the way, the women's team played, I thought, well against South Carolina drew for three quarters. It was a one point game in the fourth quarter and then South Carolina pulled away right at the end. They had a run at the end, but I thought actually a really good performance for the women going in the SEC tournament. They get the double buy. They'll be the four seed. The coin flip, I think, went their way. So South Carolina is the one and I think they could beat them in the right setting. I thought Kenny Brooks's team with a pretty good performance yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

If you just look at the final score and you know, they lost by 12. That doesn't tell the story because they came back and were right in it right before it got separated. I like the men's game. The bench was a big part of the story. It's like 32 to 2 or something between South Carolina and Kentucky. But it showed that they can hang with them.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, we thought Cal was odd with his bench. I heard them say during the game, Ryan, that. What? I'm sorry. Don Staley for South Carolina. Her two leading scores. Come off the bench reading Rob effect.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Going on in South Carolina.

[Ryan Lemond]

Have you ever heard of that before? I mean, Reed and Rob were not our two leading scores, even though they may have. Should have been, along with Reeves. But they're two leading scorers. Come off the bench for South Carolina.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I gotta know what the strategy is. Like this one girl, tell a coach, hey, I feel better coming off the bench.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't know, I just. I've never. I don't think I've ever heard of that before, ever. Until. Until yesterday.

[Drew Franklin]

Chris, about that coin flip.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. So they had a coin. Did she. Did you see the coin flip?

[Matt Jones]

She have questions about this?

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

How far down do you have to go before you get to a coin flip?

[Ryan Lemond]

They. Apparently they played each other twice. They split it and then they beat everybody else. So there was no way to decide. So they flipped the coin and they had South Carolina on one side and Texas on the other and South Carolina one. But they were like, what else are you going to do? They each won every other game.

[Matt Jones]

I think they should have like a. They should like, like maybe like a shooting contest. Like, let's put some cameras up. We'll live stream this.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, okay. Like a three point game. That. That would actually be kind of cool. You know, each team gets their own, like their best shooter.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

They sit in there, stand in their gym, and then it's a three point contest. Sure, I like.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, anything's better in a coin flip.

[Ryan Lemond]

Love it. I think that's a great idea. Channel dude, I think has added to the sports rip. Let's go, Chris. Go ahead, Chris.

[Caller (Ronnie)]

Hey, Matt. Hey, guys. Just quick, two points that I wanted to get your takes on. One are the foul calls that seem to be a hot button. That is definitely not the reason why they lost Auburn. Auburn is a great team. But I will pose a question before I get your thoughts is that sometimes, in my opinion, the number of fouls isn't always an accurate representation. What I mean by that is it's Oftentimes it's the type of foul and the scenario that are more important and I'll give you two examples of that during the game is the Lamont Butler flagger one, right? How many times you ever see a dude going up for a layup and get the flagrant one called on them? That's a big turnaround. That's a key type of foul type of scenario.

[Ryan Lemond]

But by the rule it was a flagrant. But by the rule it was a flagrant. I mean I agree with you that you don't see it called a lot. But the rule is what it is. And you know, now the car call was just a bad call. The car call, he didn't touch him. But we lost by 16 points. I mean again, I, I want you. How many games in a row have we had fans complain about how bad the officials have been again against us.

[Matt Jones]

Every time they lose?

[Ryan Lemond]

It's literally been like the last five games. And there comes a point that when it is actually bad because I do think sometimes it is. We can't just complain about it. And we lost by 16, you know.

[Caller (Ronnie)]

No, and my, my argument is though is not. Not the number of foul six reach in fouls on Auburn against UK does not equate.

[Ryan Lemond]

Ours were not reaching. They were not reach ins. We. We shot a lot of free throws. We shot a lot of free throws. I bet we shot more free throws. I don't have the number in front of me.

[Matt Jones]

Shot more than Auburn did.

[Ryan Lemond]

I bet we shot more free throws than we've shot any game this year. I mean they, we stayed in the game in free throws. I mean we made so for 38. Yeah, I mean we had 38 free throws. Now they had 31. But that's a lot of free throws. I appreciate the call. So I just can't be like Drew, you know, we, the refs were out to get us. We shot 38 free throws. You know, we went to line a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

I think they had like 20 something in the first half. There was a lot early too. It's kind of the only way Kentucky was scoring early on. Yeah, I think officials have just been bad in general all year. Not just our game. I don't part a lot of it is the, the dead periods of going to the monitor. But I, I'm not blaming any of Kentucky's losses on that.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know the, the car three call. That was a bad call. Ryan, I mean he didn't even take it goes to the point of now they're calling that you foul On a guy like, you land on a guy, it's a foul. And now they're calling it even if they don't see the landing, like, well, he fell, so it must have been a foul.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

That seems to be, I don't know if it is a point of emphasis that this season in the sec, they're calling that more than I've ever seen them call it before.

[Ryan Lemond]

By the way, the UK baseball team also had a sweep this weekend. UK baseball team is now what, 10 and 1, is that right?

[Drew Franklin]

Five games this week to play at.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

EKU tomorrow and then host EKU on Wednesday.

[Ryan Lemond]

Ooh. A back to back EKU double.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Wow. All right, well, we will take a break. 859-280-2287. Get in here. SKSR TJ Smith, personal injury attorney. Call TJ. He'll make him pay.

[Matt Jones]

Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

[Ryan Lemond]

This is a really strange song if you listen to the lyrics, Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

I mean, it's basically him meeting a prostitute in a hotel room. And they sing it like, it's like. I remember hearing it like, you know, at church picnics.

[Matt Jones]

Right. And that's pretty much the music video, too. I mean, that's.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Depicting.

[Ryan Lemond]

It's just interesting how like people are just like, well, we like Sammy Kershaw. It sounds happy. So third rate Roman romance, low rent Rendezvous. And it's an old song, too. It came out first in like the 60s by a different singer.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, because I'll hear that one on Willie Nelson sometimes, I guess.

[Matt Jones]

I'm about to go see Sammy Kershaw at this, what is it? Boyd County Fairgrounds show that they got coming up with. That's the one with Chestnut and.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, but it's got Kid Rock, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, I'm out on that. But just leave before Kid Rock comes on if you don't.

[Ryan Lemond]

So who else? It's Sammy KERSHAW, Mark Williams Jr. Yeah, that is a good group.

[Matt Jones]

Shenandoah.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, I'm in. When is it?

[Matt Jones]

Sometime in the summer. I don't know when.

[Ryan Lemond]

I'll go with you. They'll probably close with Kid Rock, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah. He's probably the biggest one.

[Ryan Lemond]

So then they can get out.

[Matt Jones]

Nickelback's going to be there. Tracy Lawrence.

[Ryan Lemond]

Nickelback is going to be there.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, I'm in. You want to go, you want to go to Ashland, Boyd County?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Afro Man. Remember we talked.

[Ryan Lemond]

I know we remember it. I just didn't remember all these guys were in it. That feels like it needs Aaron Tippen. Is he not in it?

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Ryan Lemond]

They should have gotten him.

[Matt Jones]

Dina Carter.

[Ryan Lemond]

She's all right.

[Matt Jones]

Strawberry Wine Ketucky. Headhunters is a good group. Doom is Walker.

[Ryan Lemond]

All right, we'll go Boyd County. They got a nice hotel there. We can if you want to stay the night.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, it's three hours away from July 11th and 12th.

[Ryan Lemond]

Oh, I'm free. Let's do it. Janet, we're in. Hey, bbn. If you're exercising more, being healthier and saving more money, those are good New Year's resolutions. But you also should keep yourself out of pain. Court Physical therapy has been Kentucky and his leader in physical therapy for more than 30 years. Whether you're a chronic resolution breaker or someone who's serious about making a health change for a better lifestyle, Court can help you be pain free. Go to court.com that's kort.com I'm going to lunch today with Vanetti and Terry Miners. First time the three of us have all been together since COVID I think.

[Matt Jones]

Are you all going to Old Spaghetti Factory?

[Ryan Lemond]

I suggested that, by the way, but I was. But they were. Tony wanted to go somewhere else, some fancy Trinity, Saint X kind of place. But I suggested the Spaghetti Factory. Ryan, did you see the thing about the Kansas player, Zeke Rose?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

I don't think I've seen this.

[Ryan Lemond]

So Kansas lost at home to Texas Tech. They've lost double digits, really have not had a good year, and considering that they were preseason number one by some people. And after the game, Zeke Rose, who grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, tweeted all of these messages he got, basically saying he's the worst people saying he should kill himself, and then some racial slurs. And he tweets out the messages and says, so I'm sorry I didn't play well. But then just shows what people had written, some of which were used by people using their real name, Bill Self, later that night, puts out a statement, says, you know, why don't you blame me? Why are you doing this with players? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He then yesterday does an interview where he goes, I kind of wish I hadn't done that. I feel like I gave it more attention. And so it sort of gets to a question. Obviously, it's awful. I don't think it just happens at Kansas. I think it happens at every school, probably including this one. What do you do? I mean, it is clear, at least on social media, at least on Twitter, but maybe on the other platforms, too. These platforms have no Desire to stop that kind of behavior, like it's just going to happen. What do you do? Do you just. You can say all you want to. Kids don't get on social media, but their whole lives are on social media now. And do you think you say nothing? Do you think you highlight the bad behavior? What do you do? Right.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

It is, it is a tough call because, you know, you're, you're trained to ignore it, be the bigger person, be thick skinned. But yet when somebody's saying stuff like that about why don't you go kill yourself or something, man, that's way crossing the line.

[Ryan Lemond]

And we're talking about 19 and 20 year olds, right? We're not talking about 50 year olds. Drew, what do you do if you're, if you're Bill Self and you're trying to protect your players, what do you do?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, first of all, I saw him tweet the screenshots and I actually liked it. Good. Call these people out. I wish, I think two of the four had names. I wish all four had names because it was so bad. I think it needs to be seen. So those people, I don't know if an employer will see it, what can happen, but they need some consequences because that was just awful stuff people were saying in private, Tim, and I'm glad he put light on it. I don't know what you can do to stop it though, because like you said that you got to have the apps to help shut these people out. And I don't know that they're gonna do it, but I'm actually glad he called them out publicly, even though it's hard to look at. It probably shines a bad light on the fan base as a whole. But when it's, when it's that awful, I think it needs to be called out.

[Ryan Lemond]

What would you do, Shannon?

[Matt Jones]

Well, you know, normally I would say ignore it, but if somebody's giving you death threats, you know, the people that run the apps aren't going to help you. I mean, I guess you could turn it over to police and let them handle it from there. I mean, you know, what else can you do? You can call them out like he did, but. Yeah, I don't know what that really accomplishes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, I mean, part of the problem is everybody, you know, you can have anonymous accounts.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, right.

[Ryan Lemond]

And those anonymous accounts can, can just say whatever I. It. I don't know. I am continually amazed at how cruel people can be online. You know, at the end of the day, like, I understand getting frustrated about a basketball game but it's a basketball game, right? And I feel kind of particularly bad for this kid. He grew up in Lawrence, Kansas. Ryan. He didn't get an offer from Kansas, so he went and played it like South Dakota, and he did well. And then they brought him back to play at Kansas his last couple years. So this kid grew up a Kansas fan, grew up in Lawrence, gets to wear the team's jersey. And because he's been a little disappointing, that's the reaction he gets that.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

That hurts, man. It makes the story even sadder when you put it. Put that. Put that perspective on it. But, you know, there's going to be people. And you tell me what you think people say these people just want to engage. Want to engage with you. They want a reaction. Then they feel like they win by.

[Ryan Lemond]

Just poking, you know, that's certainly true. So what do you do? I mean, I listen, I deal. I deal with the same stuff. I'm older than him, so in theory I should be able to. To handle it better. But, yeah, I mean, it's easy. It's very easy for people to say, shannon, you should do X and Y when it doesn't happen to you. Sure, right. Like, a lot of people can go, hey, Zeke Mayo. Hey, Bill Self. Hey, Matt Jones. Just ignore it. And then they'll get in their car and somebody will cut them off on the road and they'll flip them off and try to, you know, like, the littlest thing can set those people off.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

There just comes a point. What's hard about online for these people, especially kids, is that their whole lives are on it. So it can feel like, I'm sure in that moment that Shannon, the whole world is after that kid.

[Matt Jones]

I'm just glad that social media did not exist when I was this age, because that's got to be so tough growing up and, you know, constantly being on social media since you can remember, and you always get people who are just jerks on there.

[Ryan Lemond]

I saw an interview with Monica Lewinsky, Ryan. She was on, I think, Alex Cooper, and she was talking about when all that happened, and she was like, I was 19 or 20. And she said, you know, even though it was awful, she said I could go home and get away from it. She said, I can't imagine if it happened today on social media.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

She's right.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can you imagine?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

She would never get away from it, never be everywhere.

[Ryan Lemond]

And, like, it would be impossible. I just, you know, I felt bad for that kid. I. I don't know how. I don't know if there's something else you can do. But I will say, if you are a grown person and you are in a basketball player, football player, any kids, DMs writing him after a game, you need. You have. You need to look at your life like, what am I doing happens here?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

We can't be naive enough.

[Ryan Lemond]

Of course it does. Of course it does. I mean, it's not a Kansas thing. That's just where it came out. Edie. Go ahead, Edie.

[Caller (Edie)]

Hey, guys. I hope you are doing well. You know, it's frustrating. It seems like the team was playing better at the beginning of the season and has, like, not improved. However, you know, I've seen all these things on Twitter saying hope was a bad decision or. Or this and that, and I don't think Pope was a bad decision at all. I am still 110 behind Pope. I think that he's going to end up doing great things at Kentucky. And in reality, none of us even expected to have as good a season as we've had. So, you know, I just hope that everybody still gets behind them and supports them. I still think he has most tournament.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I appreciate the call. I still think Drew, he's got mostly the fan support, don't you? I mean, I think that he, for the most part, is still. I mean, I. I think it's a very tiny group of people that are not on board.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, most are supportive, mean, after the game. I think there's a part of the fan base that needs to put their Internet away for the night and go outside and get some fresh air because there's some overreactions, but way over. It's obvious that it's an upgrade from what would have been if we run it back. So we can start with that. And then we still got to give them a full season of building a team before I think you can really form any opinions about the future. I don't know if it'll work out long term, but I'm not judging him in this scenario where he's been injured all year and had a month to put it together.

[Ryan Lemond]

They're telling me, Shannon, it's a. It's a cheating wife, not a prostitute.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

But I mean, still.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so. So there's no money exchanged. That's the difference, right?

[Ryan Lemond]

It just two marriages ending, no transaction.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. All right. Feel like it's probably better if it was a transaction.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, if she make any better, makes it worse.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I don't know that that, that. That makes it any better. Apparently, the tour is kid Rock's tour, and it's called Rock the South.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

So he would definitely go last.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, he'll go last. Perfect time. You know, I like to sneak out anyway, Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I know that about you. You're good at it.

[Ryan Lemond]

And we've already seen Kid Rock. We saw him at the Republican convention, didn't we?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Yes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, we both are. With our governor, with Matt Bevin, who seems like such a swell guy. We'll take a break and be right back. Oh, no. First, tell me about Stockton Mortgage.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Stockton Mortgage. I pulled it up. I knew. I had a feeling you were getting ready to ask me that.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, because it's on the list.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Our friends at Stockton Mortgage make homeownership happen. And Tim can attest. Here's what he had to say. This is Tim. We had originally tried to finance our new home.

[Ryan Lemond]

I do that when I read the book, Shannon. I go, this is Bob.

[Matt Jones]

Can you give Tim a voice?

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's give it. Give Tim a voice.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

We had originally tried to finance our new home with our old lender. But after six weeks of very little action, we were suggested to try Stockton Mortgage. We followed that advice, and immediately things began to happen. How was that?

[Ryan Lemond]

What was that supposed to be like? Where is that person supposed to be from?

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

He just has a deeper voice.

[Ryan Lemond]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

He's just manly. Yeah.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Yeah, he's a manly voice.

[Ryan Lemond]

Manly. All right, go ahead, Stockton Mortgage.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

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[Ryan Lemond]

We were going to take a break. 859-280-2287. Somebody just writes here, Drew, and says, does Kentucky basketball have a general manager? I keep reading about other schools doing that. Do we have someone officially in that role?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't. There's the Robinson Gabbit. I don't know his exact role, if that's what they call him, but he's.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Like director of basketball.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's off. So I don't know if they call him the general manager. So. Eileen. No.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. I kind of think we don't. I'm kind of. Kind of with you. All right, we'll take a break. Be right back. This KSR probably listen to this song 200 times this year. Maybe 150. I just. I like this song so much, I listen to Zach Top's version more. But this is such a great song. And they're going to be there.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. Yep. 10 million views on YouTube. So you got at least 200 of them.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I listened to the Zach top version on TikTok.

[Matt Jones]

What's the Zach? I don't know what that is.

[Ryan Lemond]

Zach Top is a, is a country singer. We've talked about him before and he, he has a version of this that I think is really good. He sings like he has his own songs but we've talked about this guy and maybe you weren't here. He sings like 90s country so he has his own stuff too. But like he sounds like a 90. Like he sounds like he could be on that tour we're talking about.

[Matt Jones]

I'll have to check it out.

[Ryan Lemond]

But he's a young guy. He's only 24, 25. But he, he played Nashville. I think our friend Aaron Fleener was there. Drew.

[Drew Franklin]

He was.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, I think he, he just did the rhyming last few nights. But his manager is a UK fan. That's cool. 859-280-2287 the baseball commissioner I knew you'd care about this. Ryan says he's going to consider whether or not to allow Pete Rose to be voted on for the hall of Fame.

[Matt Jones]

Now they're wanting to.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

We said this when Pete Rose passed that they were going to pass some sort of legislation to get him in the hall of Fame after he'd already passed away.

[Ryan Lemond]

Can I say what is the biggest lie that has ever been told by a human being on earth? On Friday, Donald Trump pardoned Pete Rose. Whether you think that's good or not is a different conversation. But he did it. Then on Saturday this comes out and the commissioner said this had nothing to do with what Donald Trump did. So you're telling me, Shannon.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

That it's been 35 years since he got banned and you were considering this and it just so happens to have come out the day after the president did it. Stop it. Yeah, stop it. You did it. Cause he did it. Now I'm of the belief all these dudes should be in the hall of Fame because how are you going to have a Hall of Fame that doesn't have the all time hits leader and the home run leader. It's not a who's the hall of a good person. It's a question of who's good at baseball. And you can put a plaque in there that says this dude bet on baseball but he also was really good. So I don't to me this is a non story but I will agree with you. Ryan, if they were going to do it, wait until he dies. Seems kind of lame.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

It just seems very lame. And there's no doubt Major League Baseball is just doing the dinner right now because of the President's action. Kind of makes me upset about it's family.

[Matt Jones]

I'm almost to the point where I just want to be spiteful and go, no, we don't want.

[Ryan Lemond]

Apparently they've asked for it. Apparently they're the ones that went to Trump.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's okay. That's their decision.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah. So I guess he has one daughter that's alive.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Couldn't have done it a year ago while he was still alive, man.

[Matt Jones]

They should have done it years ago.

[Ryan Lemond]

But he won't get in, though, don't you think? Because, like, if the baseball writers are not voting in Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, why are they going to all of a sudden vote in Pete Rowe?

[Matt Jones]

Because he's dead. I'm being serious. No, I think, I think that's the.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Thing, you know, so the, the Veterans Committee maybe can vote in.

[Ryan Lemond]

Maybe. But he has to go through the ball says for a number of years.

[Matt Jones]

So it may be a long time out, you know.

[Ryan Lemond]

Well, he's not out. I mean, there's a lot of dead guys that aren't in.

[Matt Jones]

I'm just saying, like, if they're up for a vote, which is what I mean, like, you're not just going to not vote for the Ted guy.

[Ryan Lemond]

I think they vote against dead guys all the time. I mean, like, I feel like a bad look. Well, there's a lot of dead guys not in the hall of Fame, like, all of them.

[Matt Jones]

But are they up for the vote is what I mean.

[Ryan Lemond]

Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes, like they might die. Yeah. I just think Drew, all these guys, Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Shilling, McGuire, all those guys should be in. Whether you think they're jerks, awful people, just let them in and then everybody makes their own judgment. You can write what they did on there if you want.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Yes, you can.

[Ryan Lemond]

But he. But, like, they were great. Put them in.

[Drew Franklin]

I agree. It's the Baseball hall of Fame, not the. Your life hall of Fame. I mean, in OJ. In the OJ's in the football hall of Fame. Yeah. I would stick with the stats. That way it doesn't. Because once you start doing that debate about what they were as people, then you get into gray areas. Just focus on exactly what they did on the baseball field.

[Ryan Lemond]

Once you get into the people thing, there's a lot of people you could take out, and there's probably a lot of people that did stuff and we don't even know they did.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Lemond]

You know what I mean? So, like, you just Can't. To me, you just can't get into that stuff. Pete Rose bet on baseball. He got in trouble for that. He got banned. Right. He had tax evasion. He got in trouble and he got banned. He's accused of some other stuff that's pretty bad and that. And people can know like it is what it is. But the hall of Fame is not the hall of Good People. It's like how you played when you played baseball.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

You said it. The answer is just put it on their plaque. If you need to put an asterisk and say what you know. The other side of his story. But still he deserves to be in all those guys deserve to be.

[Ryan Lemond]

Do you agree with Travis Hunter Ryan who said what he does in football is harder than what Shohei Ohtani does in baseball, pitching and hitting.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Well, I mean I'm a baseball guy, but I would probably admit playing defensive back and receiver in major college football is a little harder than oh wow.

[Matt Jones]

Baseball.

[Ryan Lemond]

Wow. I think you're crazy.

[Matt Jones]

Oh no, you're crazy, man.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Like we talk about just physical ability.

[Ryan Lemond]

He's saying him playing offense and defense is harder than Shohei pitching and hitting. No, that's insane.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

The talent is better for Sohe. But I thought he meant just the physical toughness and ability it takes.

[Ryan Lemond]

Dude, it's Shannon. It's baseball and it's two different skills. Like the thing about being a receiver and a defensive back. Yeah, they're different skills, but they're kind of similar. Right? Right. Throwing a baseball and hitting one is a completely different thing. Right.

[Matt Jones]

Hitting a baseball and just set aside the pitching thing. That's harder to do than anything in sports.

[Ryan Lemond]

I don't care to be the best hitter in baseball. Drew and one of the best pitchers is crazy if you think about it. Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

With the skill easily show. I think Ryan mean almost like endurance of having to play a whole game versus both I think is what Ryan was saying. But no, if there's probably several corners that could go play receiver if they had to and vice versa. Whereas Shohei doing both is insane.

[Ryan Lemond]

I just think it's like being a great golfer and a great quarterback. Like it's two completely different skills and yet he's able to do it. So I think it's ridiculous. Thank you all very much. Tomorrow Kentucky and LSU we will be at KS Bar and then the pregame show is at 4:30. This has been Kentucky sports.

[Stockton Mortgage Representative]

Good one.