Drew Franklin (3:22)

Nmlsconsumeraccess.Org here's not matt Jones I am Drew Franklin filling in for Matt Jones on a very busy and exciting day for Big Blue Nation and we're going to get right to the man of the hour. He has been kind enough to call in on his busy morning. Here on ksr we have Jaden Quaintance on the phone line. Jaden, thank you for calling in. And how does it feel to be a cat for a second time?

Jaden Quaintance (3:47)

It feels good, you know, just getting back to the fan base, getting back in that environment.

Friend 2 (3:51)

It feels good.

Drew Franklin (3:53)

You still considered Kentucky after the coaching change this time last year. What is it that you love so much about Kentucky and the Big Blue Nation that you've now committed again under two different areas of uk? You seem to really like the place.

Jaden Quaintance (4:05)

Yeah, well, you know, again the fan base for Kentucky, probably one of the best, probably is the best in college basketball period. And you know, the coach showed a lot of interest. He seemed like he genuinely thought I fit really well into their program. I feel like I fit well into their playstyle often. I just thought it was pretty good for me.

Drew Franklin (4:25)

Yeah. In talking to Mark Pope and that fit the reports are you really seem like style of play. You just mentioned that. What has kind of Pope told you about how he'll use you and what it'll look like when you bounce back from injury and get back to action?

Jaden Quaintance (4:38)

Yeah, well, you know, when I'm able to get back on the court, you know, they kind of will be able to play through me a little bit more, will be able to work on the perimeter a little bit more, you know, get to show off my playmaking ability more than I was able to this year, be able to play downhill, push the ball off the break, you know, just work on my versatility More.

Drew Franklin (4:59)

I think we actually interrupted your rehab this morning. Again, thanks for calling us. So you got a lot of excited listeners. Happy to have you a part of Kentucky. How are things going with the rehab and is there any kind of timeline or target date where you're really aiming to get back into getting up and down the court?

Jaden Quaintance (5:14)

Yeah, you know, rehab's been going really well. I've been ahead of schedule. You know, the scars healing up well, getting a lot of swelling down, getting my quad strengthened really well. So rehab's been going good. We're aiming to get back around September. Yeah, rehab has been going well.

Friend 3 (5:31)

Jaden, appreciate you coming on with us. Amari Williams obviously is a different style of play and, you know, kind of fits the mold of what you, you kind of are as a basketball player. How much did you watch what he did this season and kind of use that as a, you know, a potential measuring stick of what you could potentially do this upcoming season at Kentucky?

Jaden Quaintance (5:51)

I haven't been able to watch too much, but I feel like from what I was showing on the film play somewhat similar. I feel like I'm gonna be able to kind of take over that, that kind of role well and flourishing that, that kind of rule.

Friend 3 (6:06)

What did Mark Pope say and just what were those kind of early conversations with, with him like and saying, hey, here, here's what you're going to be and, and how you're going to be used here in our system?

Jaden Quaintance (6:18)

Well, again, you know, they'd be able to play through me at the top of the key to show off my offensive ability more, get to show off my shooting a little bit better, you know, playing in the pick and roll, being able to get downhill, just playing a more open and faster paced offense that fit well into that.

Friend 3 (6:42)

What is playing for, you know, big blue nation with the most passionate fan base in college basketball on a, on a platform like the University of Kentucky. How do you think that's going to kind of elevate, you know, what you're trying to accomplish and you know, what a lot of, a lot of people kind of envision your, your last season of college basketball. What is it about the Kentucky brand that intrigues you?

Jaden Quaintance (7:04)

Well, I mean, it's the biggest brand in college basketball. You know, they got the best fans in college basketball travel. Well, you know, you can't go to Kentucky and not get noticed. So I plan on doing big things here and I feel like this is the best stage to do it on.

Drew Franklin (7:20)

Last February, I think it might have been the Georgia game in Rupp arena, you were there. They brought you out at half court to a huge recept, gave everybody a big wave. How did it feel? That was kind of your first moment in front of Kentucky fans in a unique situation last season. And how exciting is it to get back out there in front of those fans again in Rupp arena, finally wearing the uniform next year?

Jaden Quaintance (7:43)

It's a great privilege, you know, seeing how much love that the fans show how, again, large the arena is, how big of a turnout it is every time, you know, you pop out there. So it's. It was a great experience, for sure.

Drew Franklin (7:55)

We've talked about your connection to Mark Pope. I know this all moves so quickly, but have you had any conversations with some of the players already on Kentucky's roster? Any connections in the past with those guys? Gotten to know any of them or heard from them? Got any group tech started yet?

Jaden Quaintance (8:09)

Yeah, my God. Jasper Johnson, he was a big part of, you know, kind of helping me lean towards Kentucky. He's been talking about how much he loves the environment and situation in the Sands and the coaching and just how he thought I'd be able to fit well into the system that they have going on here and the team that they're trying to build. So my guy, Jasper has helped me a lot in kind of getting here.

Friend 3 (8:29)

Hey, Jaden. You know, obviously, understanding the assignment in Lexington is very important for Mark Pope and just getting back to the Final Four, winning a national championship, how important is that for you? Going into this season and knowing the other pieces that Pope has been able to assemble and the group that he's. He's been able to assemble, is it fair to say that a national championship is on the table next season in Lexington?

Jaden Quaintance (8:55)

Well, you know, winning is probably the most important thing to me, and I've been wanting to have a chance to compete. You know, I don't really like watching from the sidelines, watching everybody else. You know, I'm saying in the tournament, we didn't make the tournament this year, and I look forward to, you know, having a real chance to win it next year. I feel like that's going to be a. Another really big part of going to Kentucky. So we have a real shot to win the national championship.

Friend 3 (9:16)

I know fans would love to hear that. And obviously, you know, you got rehab to get to, and we don't want to keep you too long. But you know, what. What for fans that are not familiar with you or just trying to get, you know, back used to you, obviously you're an old friend, but now, now a New friend for us as well. What can fans expect from Jaden Quaint as a basketball player when you do make your way back to the floor?

Jaden Quaintance (9:38)

I'm a play hard and give them all every night. You know, I'm a have an impact on the offensive end, defensive end of the ball. And you know, I play to win every night. Every time I step on the floor, I play to win, to impact the game. I'll rock in Love it.

Drew Franklin (9:51)

Jaden, we can't thank you enough for taking time out of your extremely busy morning to join us here on ksr. I know our listeners loved it and appreciate it because we're very excited to have you back in big Blue nation where you belong and we look forward to everything ahead. But thanks again for joining us and congratulations on making your commitment.

Jaden Quaintance (10:08)

Thanks. Appreciate you guys.

Drew Franklin (10:10)

All right, we'll talk to you in Lexington. Looking forward to it. All right, guys. Yes, sir. Go cats. There was Jack a good get Jack getting him on the phone. I can only imagine how hectic it has been around him this morning, you know, is a big portal target. It even sounded like, was that Bruce Pearl in the background? I thought I heard Bruce when Jaden was talking there. Bruce really isn't trying to visit him right now, is he? But no, no, it's great to have him. And like I said, very exciting times for Kentucky. I remember that moment in Rupp arena when he got the big pop. We thought we were going to have him last year. You know, life's funny, it's got its twists and turns, but he's coming back home. Projected top 10 pick in the 2026 draft. Brings some much needed rim protection and it sounds like he's on a good timeline with the, with the rehab on the acl.

Friend 3 (10:55)

All I can focus on is national championship talk, man. Him talking about, you know, me and Jasper, we've been talking a lot. We have big dreams of hanging banners in Lexington. Like, oh, all right, can we. I know the national championship just finished up last night, but I'm ready to roll those balls out and tip the season off.

Friend 2 (11:12)

Maybe hungry for it. Like watching last night. Do you think, you know, do you think Caliperi, how does he feel about. About this? I mean, that was. Could have been one of his big pieces. Did he think that he was going to follow him to Arkansas last year?

Friend 3 (11:26)

It's complicated. I think everybody just kind of knew, you know, it might just be a hard reset for everybody. Some would follow, some wouldn't. And obviously that some did follow and some didn't. But I do know that it was really important for Jaden and those close to him to, you know, kind of make his own decision. And that's why, you know, after, even after Cal left, there were initial conversations of, hey, I would love to be a part of this. I know, you know, it's, it's complicated. It's. You guys have a coaching search to do, but I would love to have some type of role in this. And it just didn't work out. You know, it needed a little break to know what they were missing with one another. And they were able to refind each other again this offseason and, you know, Jaden was able to grow under his own terms on his own timeline. And now we should be getting a more mature, you know, 18 year old version of Jaden instead of, you know, arriving on campus at 16 like he did last, last season at Arizona State.

Drew Franklin (12:17)

Love always finds a way. Works out. We got him, got him where he needs to be. Stephen, I say this lovingly, respectfully, sometimes, sometimes you can be a little bit of a doomsdayer. You know, you consider the worst case scenario at times. Not always, not. But, you know, you can, you can have worries and you can be cautious about the state of Kentucky basketball. How do you feel? Let's just assume they have a shooter. We don't know yet. Still got to go out and get one of those, but unnamed shooter and the pieces they have now. Where is Stephen Peake's excitement heading into next season?

Friend 2 (12:46)

First of all, from 2009 when Cal got there to about 2017, I was very much optimistic. You know, things started to happen in the last few years that since I got to ksr that, you know, maybe a little bit more, maybe protecting myself a little bit so I don't get too hurt. Maybe that's what it is. But I think if with Jaden, you land a shooter, whether it's Yates or whoever else is in the portal.

Drew Franklin (13:08)

Dante Allen's in the portal.

Friend 2 (13:09)

Dante. I mean, that could be. That's it.

Drew Franklin (13:10)

Run it back. Call everybody home.

Friend 2 (13:12)

Yeah, I mean, I'm real excited about this team and I think what we saw with what Mark Pope and this staff was able to do with what they had, I mean, those were good, those are good players they had last year. We have a lot of talk about, there's a lot of talk last year about, you know, this will be the least talented Mark Pope team. I mean, there was, there were some really good players on that team. But now you look at this roster, you had a shooter Like I'm dreaming. I'm dreaming big. I mean, I see it in your eyes.

Friend 3 (13:38)

Yeah.

Friend 2 (13:39)

I mean, I'm thinking like a return to our favorite city could be happening.

Friend 3 (13:42)

Oh, God.

Friend 2 (13:43)

That's the only. Now we're not going to be negative though, right?

Drew Franklin (13:46)

We're going to actually, I actually have that city on my list of topics for later and we still have to get your hot take on the basketball. It's really the only reason I called you in today was so you can just have your open mic about the Wilson basketball. We've been thrown off with the news and the updates. Obviously, we focused today on the two recent additions since they happened in the last 24 hours. But Jack, I didn't have you on the air yesterday. Kentucky also added Jalen Lowe over the weekend. We haven't really had a chance to talk about him. I guess the third, fourth transfer portal piece for Kentucky. How do you feel about him at point guard?

Friend 3 (14:17)

He's different than Lamont Butler, obviously. Lamont was a defensive anchor and a guy that you just kind of say, hey, go to work and guard the other team's best player. And you know, it's, it's a different style but more talented than Lamont Butler. I know it's going to ruffle some feathers, but you're, you're buying on the upside knowing that, okay, he's young, he's growing a couple more years left of eligibility, but this is a kid that produced at a high level for a very bad ACC team but was an ACC all ACC member nonetheless. And you're kind of saying if you can get him to, you know, improve efficiency because the shots are going to be better because he has more talent around him because you know, he's not going to be getting double teamed and you know, have the other team's top defensive assignment every single night, it's going to be more of a balance and let him kind of get his game off more comfortably than he had to do last season play for Jeff Capel. So you should be getting the best version of Jalen Lowe who as an all conference player as is is a really, really, really talented piece.

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We still have so much more to get to. Like yesterday, I'm not even halfway through the topics I have written down. Like I said, Steven's got to talk about this basketball and these two travel everywhere together. I want to get some travel stories and we still haven't even mentioned last night's championship game. So we'll take a break first. Before we take this break, I'm going to tell you about Our friends at Cornbread Hemp Spring is in the air and if you're looking to shake off the gloom of winter, our friends at Cornbread Hemp are here to help you start fresh. Relax on warm spring weekends with their infused gummies, relieve achy winter joints with their hemp balms and lotions and get the rest you deserve with their Melatonin Free Sleep Gummies. Their USDA organic hemp products are made to help you feel your best, just like nature intended. All of their products are made right here in Kentucky and contain the highest quality relief you can buy this spring. Try the good life for yourself and get 20% off your first order with code KSR at checkout. That's cornbreadhemp.com code KSR at checkout Cornbread Hemp this is the good Life. We'll be right back here on KSR.

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Drew Franklin (19:50)

Welcome back to Kentucky Sports Radio. What a morning we're having here, guys. Drew Franklin, Jack Pilgrim, Steven Peake, Jaden Quaintance, Tianna Key, Phoenix Stevens. We're just having lots of fun as Kentucky basketball's roster gets even better a lot of the way too early rankings came out this morning even before the Quaintance commitment. I think ESPN had Kentucky at 6 on 3. Our company Steven's wearing the logo right now. Had him at fourth. Some other top 10 projections. All the naysayers just calm down. We told you, relax. It's going to be all right. And things are looking like they're panning out. Well, still got to add a shooter, but Kentucky's in a great spot on April 8th. It's the day after the national championship game and we have not even mentioned that yet, so I guess we should run through it. Seems very irrelevant at the moment as we're excited about other things, but Florida did win a basketball game last night. The championship. Their third. Looked like it was Houston's night for much of the game, especially in the first half. My goodness, they ref weren't calling foul as much as played into Houston's favor. Alex Condon looks like he wanted to be on the couch next to me. He wanted no part of that game. Early on, Walter Clayton couldn't score. I thought it was Houston's night. And then the things flipped late in the second half. Houston led by 12 at one point in the second half, Walter Clayton hit a 3 with about 3 minutes and 15 seconds left to go. Got a little momentum behind the Gators, and that's when things turned down the stretch. Houston with four turnovers on their last four possessions, including on the final possession. Kelvin Sampson, this is your moment. I thought you were getting over the hump. I thought you were getting the ring. And Houston doesn't even get a shot off. Incredible guys.

Friend 3 (21:23)

Were you.

Drew Franklin (21:23)

Did you at least enjoy the outcome? Were you anti Florida? Pro Florida? How do we feel about how it played out?

Friend 2 (21:28)

I was anti Florida. I'm anti every SEC team. I don't. Look, I want to go back to where Kentucky dominates the sec. I know we can have some pride in our conference, but why? Like, I want to be the best team. I don't want Florida. Celebrating last night made me sick watching Todd golden up there, you know, I mean, great. Youngest coach to win it. Good for him. That. Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like seeing he looked like he wanted to be a part of the team. You know what I mean?

Drew Franklin (21:51)

He did look like a player. He was the one that lifted the trophy. I was like, is that a walk.

Friend 2 (21:55)

On or is that the coach, the coach's son? Who is that? Yeah, but no, I was all for. I was really just excited that Duke wasn't playing in it. And really that was the only thing that concerned me.

Drew Franklin (22:05)

But, yeah, let's be honest. We all won before the championship game when Duke got eliminated. I lean your direction. I was more for Houston, so I had my bracket. I didn't love Florida getting another one. You know, it's just they had their. Their little dynasty in 2006, 2007. I wanted that to be the Florida basketball success. Golden's got him back. That wasn't a lot of fun to watch. But Houston with a big collapse. I mean, Jack, with 45 seconds left, we think they're going two for one and then they kind of hold the ball and end up turning over twice in the last 30 seconds.

Friend 3 (22:33)

It was crushing. Like just seeing there's a kind of side by side, you see the game happening and you see just Kevin Sampson on the bench and just watching it all unfold and you could just see the doom in his eyes. Like I, I thought this was it. I thought, I thought we had it. So that sucks. You know, Kelvin's a great guy. All time whiff for Indiana basketball. Could you imagine if that guy stuck there and was able to build the same dynasty with the resources that he has? It would have at Indiana.

Friend 2 (23:00)

Just.

Friend 3 (23:01)

That's why we can never, you know, Indiana can go away forever. But I was rooting for him personally, while also kind of liking the novelty of like, hey, we hyped up the SEC as a all time juggernaut. Having them kind of put the ultimate final stamp on it. Like, hey, all time conference leads to a national champion and us being the first team to beat them.

Friend 2 (23:22)

I kind of two of the four last champions Kentucky's beaten in the regular season.

Friend 3 (23:27)

Yeah. So that kind of part of it, I, I was appreciating. But we were playing with house money. I mean there was, there was nothing that could have happened last night that would make me like, oh, you know, heart being heartbroken. The only thing that could have happened was Duke winning that game and then winning the national championship. I would have been really bummed out today, but very fortunately we don't have that opportunity.

Drew Franklin (23:44)

Yeah, that's why I was for Houston. We needed to crown them. They sent Tennessee home before a final four and they eliminated Duke with one of the all time collapses in the semifinal. That's why I just thought Houston deserved it. Some interesting facts that came out about it. You know, we're all looking at these rankings and you need this, you need that. Florida did not have a top 100 recruit on its roster and neither team had a five star recruit. So pretty unique in the roster building there shows that retaining players and finding the right fit in the portal can really pay off.

Friend 2 (24:12)

Yeah, I mean that's. And you look at, you can bring Ortega o way back. I mean that's huge. And you know, once this thing gets rolling, once you get Pope into his third or fourth year because he's I think brought on a couple more sophomores. So you keep them yeah, Roster continuity. What was Kentucky this past season last? Oh, they were last. Okay, so that's probably not good, right? Considering all the injuries. And that's one thing, too. The injury stuff has to start tilting into our favor, and it's got to happen. And, you know, you look at the last several years, there's been, like, key injuries. Let's, like, eventually that luck is going to swing our way. Right.

Friend 3 (24:48)

We have the ultimate experiment. I mean, we have a guy with a torn ACL today, and if he happens to go ahead of schedule and play in the season opener, I think, and, you know, stays healthy throughout the course of the season, I think that's the perfect, like, you know, finally getting, you know, exercising those demons and getting back on track with. With the health.

Drew Franklin (25:06)

Steven, you mentioned Ortega away. He was in one shining moment for approximately 1.2 seconds.

Friend 2 (25:11)

We got, like, four frames of Ortega.

Drew Franklin (25:12)

You know, I, like most people, stayed up waiting for one shining moment. That's how we officially closed the book on the year. I really thought the Amari coast to coast dunk was going to make it. I even almost tweeted, get ready. We're getting the Amari dunk in one shining moment. Amare didn't get in there, but in the very beginning, I guess we got an away flush. Was that other than, you know, being in the background of some Tennessee shots, I believe that was our only UK.

Friend 3 (25:35)

Andrew Carr was on the receiving end of a Tennessee poster, which I did not love seeing that part, but whatever.

Drew Franklin (25:40)

But at least it wasn't like past years where it's slow motion. Jack Golkey and my good friend John Palumbo doing the surrender cobra with his hands on his head. So we're working our way back more into one shining moment. Steven, as a videographer, I gotta ask, why does it take them so long? You know, that most of that should have been edited. I feel like they make us wait. You know, I keep. I wanted to go watch Righteous Gemstones, but I got to watch 20 minutes of post game to get to the best part of the night.

Friend 2 (26:05)

I don't think it's an editing deal. I think that they. They know that you're waiting for it, and they're getting in as many ads as they can. I mean, we have the official ladder of the ncaa. We got to talk about Werner, and then we got to get, you know, the. The AT&T halftime show presented by Burger King or whatever. Like, they got. We have to get all of the ads in. And then. So. But you can see, like, it's all edited. They added like three clips of them of the championship game and then the celebration at the end. I'm sure they took them about a minute.

Drew Franklin (26:28)

One cool thing about the Florida celebration and you mentioned the ladder. Olivier Ryu did cut down the nets again, Mr. Seven Foot Nine as we saw in Nashville without using the ladder. I'm still just fascinated by that guy. You know, he didn't play for Florida this year, but what a sight when he's up there. You know, everyone takes their climb, get their little piece, they wave. No, he just walks up, takes the scissors and cuts it flat footed.

Friend 3 (26:49)

Is that an nil violation because they have the deal with, with the ladder. Like do you think that the ladder company looks at it goes whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not what we signed up for. Get, get your big butt up on that ladder and lean down.

Drew Franklin (27:00)

I think Warner has a complaint there. I really think they do. We're getting excited about the roster. Steven. Before we started the show you were like get me back on one shining moment. Are you confident that, you know, we got away this year for 1.2 seconds where we're gradually getting back next year we're going to be featured.

Friend 2 (27:14)

I mean it looks like you do have to make an elite eight at least to get more than one highlight because I thought to the Amari Williams dunk against Troy had to be on there. How many times do you see a seven footer go coast to coast and get an and one dunk? I mean but yeah, you got to get, you got to get to the destination. You got to get to Indianapolis next year if you want to be, you know, you want to see a lot more of those highlights and not not be on the the other side of the Tennessee dunking on us.

Drew Franklin (27:40)

Overall, obviously I would have preferred if Kentucky were in the final four, but those three games maybe one of my favorite final fours to just sit and watch. As a neutral observer, other than hating Duke, I didn't really have strong feelings about any team. But the weekend really delivered. Didn't Jack.

Friend 3 (27:55)

Everybody loves the Cinderella until you have to see them play a legitimate national championship contender and they lose by 30 in the next round. You're like, well that was a waste of everybody's time. So there's a reason why they're one seeds and they were the best teams all season long. That's why it was so hard when we were filling out the brackets to not pick them as you know, you, it felt like you were trying to be cute when you didn't have the four Number ones because they were just that much better than the rest of the field. So it was. It was the best. The best possible product we could have.

Drew Franklin (28:23)

Gotten for our KSR listeners who are online and follow Ryan Lemon. I mean, I. I don't know if he had gotten into the Margs with Shannon the dude, but Ryan sends like one tweet a week, and last night he was just firing them off. I encourage everyone to go look at that. One of them is just said, I really got a pee. I mean, said Shannon told me to go out there in the ocean. I mean, sounds like my. My guys are having a great time on vacation. I'm looking at about 10 Ryan Lemon tweets during the game, and none of them are coherent. So check that out. Follow scoop. Looks like they're having a good time leaving me back here. Like I said, they might not have a job when they get back. We're just. We've added three people to their roster since they've been gone. We had a good guest, and Tianna Key closed the book on the championship season. And when we come back, I'm gonna let Steven Peake tell you all about the worst basketball in the history of basketball, the Wilson Evo nxt. He hates it more than anything, and we're gonna let him cook after this break. This is ksr. Welcome back to ksr. Matt Jones is not here because we've already had babies and dogs. That is our whiskey thief message board submission of the day. Not quite a call of the day, but we're going to KS board for that one from Fox Monk. And Bam took that joke from him. He said, with Matt out, babies are fair game. I'm not going to encourage you to call in with your babies, but it was a nice addition to the Jaden Quaden interview. Really cool to hear from him on such an exciting day, but I'm here with Jack Pilgrim and Steven Peake. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, we've talked about it many times. These stupid basketballs that are over inflated and they're bright orange. No one hates them more than Steven and Steven. I'm just going to give you the floor. Tell us, tell us. Your hatred goes back several years. You've done the stats, you have spreadsheets, you have videos. You'll randomly text me at 3am on a Tuesday when you find new information about this stupid Wilson basketball. Tell our listeners why they should hate it too.

Friend 2 (30:12)

You should hate it because Kobe Braya hates it. Jack Pilgrim interviewed him in the locker room after he actually shot 3 for 6. So it wasn't like he was making excuses. And a win, and a win over. Was that the Troy was after the Troy game or is that after Illinois?

Friend 3 (30:26)

Troy. Troy.

Friend 2 (30:27)

Okay. So he asked Kobe Bray, if you haven't seen the interview, it's on our YouTube channel. And Kobe says, you have to change the way you shoot a little bit. And I almost threw the camera against the wall and ran out and found an NCAA reptile.

Friend 3 (30:41)

I was wondering why the camera got.

Friend 2 (30:42)

So shaky after that. I was shaking mad. You were steaming.

Drew Franklin (30:45)

I wanted our listeners to know Stephen actually might do that at some point. He's not kidding. He came close to throwing that.

Friend 2 (30:52)

Well, the thing is with. First of all, why is it in college basketball you have different balls depending on where you play? That makes no sense to me. You don't do this in any other sport. You don't get to the World Series and they go, all right, we changed the seams on the baseball. It doesn't happen. Alright, so like that's, that's the first thing. But then these basketballs. And I talked to a guy who played at Wofford. He has a. He's a shooting coach. Bobby Perez, he played with Fletcher McGee, I think is his name, who, you know, didn't shoot very well against Kentucky, but one of the better shooters anyway. He's done a lot of studies also and he's, he's like trying to teach guys how to shoot. But it's like these basketballs that they're using for one, it's not that they're different. They put extended range tech into this ball. Why we need a technology into a basketball? Does. Do I have to use a USB C to like, is there a firmware update that needs to happen to the basketball? I mean, it's ridiculous. But what he's saying is that the balls are too inflated and he is noticing that guys are having trouble. It's not just with shooting, but it's with the ball. I mean, Sevier Wheeler had one bounce over his head. I mean, like there was one. Davion Mintz went back and watched the St. Peter's game that he expects the ball to be back in his hand. Nope, it's not. It's bouncing over his hand. It's a turnover. This is something the NCAA really needs to fix. And I'm glad, like Scott Van Pelt is now even talking about it. He said it's like a game you play at a carnival where like the ball is over inflated and they've rigged the game. This is something I was kind of joking about a few years ago. Now I'm kind of, I'm a little bit more serious, I think. I think having everyone else say that this is a problem has sort of like made me like, alright, I can actually, this is a real thing, get.

Friend 3 (32:24)

My real takes off.

Drew Franklin (32:25)

You're a pioneer in this take. When I first met you, you know.

Friend 2 (32:28)

The first thing, I brought it up in the interview.

Drew Franklin (32:30)

Yeah, we interviewed Stephen for the videographer position, Tyler and I, and you know, we're going over his resume. Oh, cool, you went to Murray. That's neat. Oh, you worked here. And he's like, hey, can I talk about this basketball? And ever since I've known you, it's been a talking point. You're right, people are catching on. Some coaches have been outspoken about it.

Friend 2 (32:45)

Matt Painter said that he, he was interviewed in 2023 and he said the ball is round, anybody can shoot it. Then they lose to Farley Dickinson who used the ball all year.

Friend 3 (32:53)

Shout out Ainsley.

Friend 2 (32:54)

And then the next interview I see with Matt Painter, he's saying, yeah, we got to do something. You know, I mean, so like coaches have talked, Mark Fuse talked about it. Alabama players were asked about it. And it is, it is something that you look at the shooting percentage of the last few Final Fours and National championship games. And throughout the tournament, the shooting percentages dip wildly.

Drew Franklin (33:14)

Like what about last night? I know Houston's not a lights out team, but those two teams were combined over 13 to start the game. Florida, I think finishes 25%, Houston 24%. We blame in the ball. I mean there was good defense, but those were some bad bricks last night.

Friend 2 (33:27)

Yeah. And there was actually a researcher from Syracuse, Rodney Paul did do several studies and what he found was, and it's kind of hard to quantify it because how do you say, okay, that shot went in. Would it have gone in if they used a different ball? So he said it's a greater than one point advantage for who if you're using this ball, has been used all year.

Friend 3 (33:45)

But I'll tell you the other thing.

Friend 2 (33:46)

That insane. With all the technology we have, the NCAA is using a bounce test to determine if the ball is bouncy enough. Are you kidding me? What year is this?

Friend 3 (33:55)

Like it's reckless. Yeah.

Friend 2 (33:57)

Like it's not a big deal. Like there isn't millions of dollars on the line here. That there's not, especially with all the gambling and everything. So like it feels like you can get, you can get up, get something that shows you what the PSI is. And that's the other thing that Bobby Perez brought up to me.

Friend 3 (34:11)

The.

Friend 2 (34:11)

The PSI is 7 to 9 PSI. Well, that's a pretty wide range, actually. So if you go to the top end of that, it gets pretty bouncy. And like, I told you, like, when Chinulu spiked that ball, I thought it might go through the elbow dome. So, like, that is something.

Drew Franklin (34:27)

It was a good Isaac Humphries moment last night. The. The tee.

Friend 2 (34:30)

Can you believe that he got it? I mean, like, and they still won the game. Like, that could have been massive.

Drew Franklin (34:34)

I did, like, as soon as I saw you immediately texted. I'm surprised that ball didn't hit the top of the island. It was a good joke. That was our joke of the day.

Friend 2 (34:40)

Yeah. But this is something that I'm glad, you know, you have. Like I said, Scott Van Pelt, you've had several coaches finally speak out about it. And, you know, a coach doesn't really want to say and a player doesn't want to say. I mean, the ball is the problem. So they're all kind of timid to talk about it, especially during the season. But, you know, raising awareness, that's. That's. That's what we're doing here. And we're going to hopefully see a universal basketball and college basketball. It's absolutely ridiculous that depending on where you play, it depends on, like, the. The sponsorship you have. So all the Nike schools are using the Nike ball. If you're in an Adidas school, I guess it's open in your contract because Louisville is using the Wilson Evo, and then you have Kansas using the Wilson Evo. And that is an advantage going into the tournament. It didn't help Louisville very much this year. I don't know if you remember, they were beating the first round.

Drew Franklin (35:27)

Yeah. Right here down the street, right?

Friend 2 (35:28)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Drew Franklin (35:29)

Crowd, if I'm not mistaken and favorite.

Friend 2 (35:33)

Yeah, but they should have been a three seed, right? I mean, they just got. Yeah. So you know that. But the ball is. It is an issue. It does affect the game. Of course it does. When you are shooting thousands of shots all season and you're calibrating, you know, you're using muscle memory in these tense moments in the most important games of your life, and they're like, here's the new equipment to play with. That's. That's insane to me. There's all the stuff we're trying to do to benefit players. This is an easy fix. It's so easy. And we. Yet nothing. It's. You know, I know money's involved, but just make a universal ball man like it. What other league does this?

Drew Franklin (36:12)

You mentioned how the coaches and players afraid to be too outspoken about it, kind of would come off as an excuse. You are the official leader of this. Like, what's next? You gonna maybe like a 5K. You're talking about raising awareness. Do you go out here, stand outside arenas with a sign? Are you gonna go to Indianapolis? You're not going there, but are you going to petition the ncaa? I mean, how do we keep this movement going?

Friend 2 (36:33)

Yeah, I mean, I just think I'm going to. I definitely. I think getting more players to talk about it will eventually lead to some change. I definitely think that once people are realizing because also the product is bad. I mean, I watched that Kentucky Florida game that was played in Rupp Arena, 106 to 100, both teams just shooting lights out. I have a hot take about that game. That's one of the greatest games ever played in Rupp Arena. I mean, it just, it was a fun game. What did Pope say in the post game press conference? If you didn't enjoy that, then find a new profession or something like that is what he told the media. Then you watched last night's game. And granted, Houston's a great defensive team, but how many of those balls were just like, big guys are having problems with it, getting the ball to. It does. It goes. It bounces everywhere but in the basket. And so I think to have a better product, it would behoove the NCAA to, you know, universal basketballs. Let's. If we're doing the arc system, we're doing all this stuff to like perfect our shots and then you're. Then you just give them a basketball that travels further. That doesn't make any sense. Especially when they're advertising extended range tech. They're like, oh yeah, you can shoot it further and you can. And I don't. I know this might sound like I'm bragging, but I'm like the fifth or sixth best shooter in my Sunday night church.

Drew Franklin (37:47)

Oh, listen, KSR followers know you can ball. You and Jack, actually I had that on my list of topics. Let's kind of just transition to that. Yeah, you all go to all these games and you always leave the arena on a make. KSR for most people don't know. We're usually the last ones to leave the building where, you know, working hard. It's always a late night and you all stay in these away arenas. I don't even know where you find a basketball. But you put a video out there, Jack. You all get a shot up everywhere you go. I've participated in Nashville. Hit a half court shot. Not bragging, but bragging. But talk about why you all do that, how fun it is and how hard it is to find a ball.

Friend 3 (38:17)

Sometimes because our job is very unserious. We understand that. We are blessed to be in this position, to be working at ksr, to be covering the team as die hard Kentucky fans. And we like basketball. So when we're at these cool venues and we're like, hey, it'd be really cool to make a shot at one of these. So it just kind of became a thing. And yes, Stephen will attest to this. We will look under bleachers, we will go up in the rafters, we will look everywhere for a sneak a ball in. We. I have.

Friend 2 (38:47)

Where was that?

Friend 3 (38:48)

Actually, I don't want to.

Friend 2 (38:49)

We don't want to say, yeah, we.

Drew Franklin (38:50)

Gotta keep this going.

Friend 3 (38:51)

Statue of limitations. But we, we have snuck a ball in at one of the locations and we did use that ball for, for a shot. So yeah, it's, it's. It's our favorite tradition and hopefully we can do that in Indianapolis at the Final Four next year because they kicked us off the floor this past, this past cycle. So not. Not big fans of the NCAA and the, the March Madness.

Friend 2 (39:10)

Gosh, man, they are the str. I've never seen anything so strict. It's like, I mean, seriously, it's like Fort Knox. Like you get down there on the court and they're like, you know, the, the nuclear codes right mid court. Like, it's. It's crazy how strict they are. I mean, I got really screamed at pretty fiercely to get off.

Drew Franklin (39:26)

You and Mario get yelled at for even getting a drink of water at these things. I guess because you're both doing video, you have a different facial, but they will not let you anywhere. You go to all these games and you're working hard and you watch them in the back on a TV without sound because they won't even let you stick your head around the corner to look at the arena where I saw.

Friend 2 (39:42)

The OA game winner against that's in the SEC tournament was like by myself behind a. Like one of the darkest parts of the world was where that. That area is for the SEC tournament. But yeah, finding a basketball we've shot with flat basketballs.

Friend 3 (39:56)

Yeah, we, we usually the balls that we find that are just kind of by themselves typically pretty flat. Part of the reason why we, you know, get some friendly roles some of our shots. But hey, we'll, we'll ignore that part.

Drew Franklin (40:08)

Steven's got that pure jumper. I mean Kentucky can't get a shooter in the portal. I don't know your eligibility situation.

Friend 2 (40:14)

I said fifth or sixth best player in a Sunday night men's league. So they probably need to look, look elsewhere. I said shooter. I actually, I didn't say best player.

Friend 3 (40:21)

I will say we played three on three the other day, Steven, me and shout out big blue, Drew. And we cooked. I mean absolutely, absolutely cooked. So just if you're looking for pick up, pick up guys, what you. I know some folks.

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We're running out of time here. I still wanted to get a few travel tips from you all and you know, some of your favorite places around the sec, maybe even across the country. I know Indianapolis isn't high on that list. Before we go, I guess I better pay some more bills here. Let me see what I got next. How about a little Bluegrass Roofing and Consulting?

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Friend 2 (46:23)

Well, first the trip with Jack. We actually moved to a different hotel because I wasn't supposed to go. But then we decided, all right, we'll send me a Ohio State big game, CBS Sports Classic. We get there.

Drew Franklin (46:34)

This is this past season.

Friend 2 (46:35)

Past season. We get there. There's one king size bed.

Drew Franklin (46:38)

I've done that with Matt.

Friend 2 (46:39)

So, yeah, so the first night I just.

Friend 3 (46:41)

We left because it was the pineapple Sweet. Initially we were like, yeah, you know, the vibe. I just don't know if it's, you.

Drew Franklin (46:47)

Know, pineapple direction was a turn.

Friend 2 (46:49)

Correct.

Friend 3 (46:50)

Right. That's exactly why we knew we had to. We didn't want to, you know, give off the wrong vibe.

Drew Franklin (46:56)

Do we need to send you guys to hr? You know, this is a business trip.

Friend 2 (46:59)

So I did. I slept on the floor the first night. And then Jack, Jack had to head. Like, he just schedules flights at the most. Like, I feel like inconvenient time. He's like, is there a 3:15am flight I can get on.

Friend 3 (47:09)

We're falling on a budget, baby.

Friend 2 (47:12)

Because he. I don't think he slept and then he just like. Did you even go to sleep?

Friend 3 (47:16)

I took a 40 minute nap.

Friend 2 (47:17)

There you go.

Friend 3 (47:17)

Like Buddy the Elf. I got a nice 40 minutes.

Drew Franklin (47:19)

That happened to me with Matt, New York. And I just left and said, I'll see you tomorrow. And I stayed out all night. Even found a place that was like underground after hours to hang out with bartenders. The Irish bartenders just gotten off work, showed back up at 7am I.

Friend 2 (47:32)

You stayed the night in Jack Dempsey's.

Drew Franklin (47:34)

They gave me the key. I got to be the only person there.

Friend 2 (47:36)

But the other part was those you're. I think you were talking about the Zimbabwe Christmas. That was different.

Drew Franklin (47:40)

Stephen and I had fun in New York as the UCLA game. Game didn't work out that well, but we had fun otherwise, including. I took him to Brooklyn to my friend Simba's apartment. He was having a Zimbabwe themed Christmas dinner with Zimbabwean food. What did I eat? Cow something.

Friend 2 (47:58)

Yeah, I was actually gonna ask you some kind of like beef jerky thing. Biltong.

Drew Franklin (48:02)

Yeah. Maybe some tongue. They had a sommelier there. I think I'm pronouncing that word right. They knew a lot about wine, but when you go on a KSR road trip, you don't know what you're gonna get. Did you think we would be celebrating Zimbabwean Christmas?

Friend 2 (48:13)

Actually, it sounded pretty on brand. I thought exactly what I expected.

Drew Franklin (48:18)

Yeah, good time with our good friend Simba there. Let's keep moving on with the game. My least favorite place. I started with my favorite. I'm gonna go to my least favorite. Starkville, Mississippi.

Friend 3 (48:26)

We went three days early because there supposed to be an ice storm. There was no ice. So we just stayed three extra days in Starkville. One of the times we were leaving our hotel room, we just hear this massive banging from the second second story. We're like, oh, something's going on. This woman. Clearly the cleaning crew was like frantically waving. We were like, she just found a dead body. We're. We are staying at a hotel where they just found a dead body in this hotel. In this hotel room. So we run back inside, we go to the front desk. Hey, I think there's somebody dead upstairs. Somebody should call 91 1. Then the sweet cleaning lady comes down, says, oh, I thought you were Austin. Said, I'm not Austin. I don't think Stephen is Austin unless he goes by another name.

Friend 2 (49:08)

But you recognize us from KSR YouTube.

Friend 3 (49:10)

Yes, but yes, we avoided. Avoided death in Starkville, but that didn't make me want to be there any longer anyway.

Drew Franklin (49:17)

Trying to think of some other unique places. Steven, you. You went across the pond to London.

Friend 2 (49:21)

Yeah, that was interesting.

Drew Franklin (49:22)

We lost that one, right?

Friend 2 (49:23)

No, we beat Michigan.

Drew Franklin (49:24)

Oh, that's right. Beat Michigan.

Friend 2 (49:26)

Yeah.

Drew Franklin (49:26)

Cal was mean to Tyler Thompson. I'm still mad about that.

Friend 2 (49:28)

Yeah, London. How was London? Yeah, London was cool. I think what that did is it kind of just showed me how big big blue nation is because I was meeting Kentucky fans from Spain, from Italy, from. They had. I had a long conversation with this kid who's big Kentucky fan, never will go to Rupp arena, but he lives in England. That. I thought that was so cool because I think like you live here in Kentucky, you just. It's like it's our team, but then you. It's like, oh no, this is like international. Like this is like the world's team. And so that was like a kind of an eye opening experience to how big big blue nation is. And you know, we have a guy, Clint, who's, who's in Cyprus. We still talk with him. Like the London trip was kind of an eye opening to, you know, the reach that Kentucky basketball has.

Friend 3 (50:10)

Was Amari Williams there?

Friend 2 (50:11)

I. I didn't see Weetabix. No, I did. Not any Weetabix. But. But I will say I just, I. The food there, I, you know, people talk about it. I don't, I didn't, I didn't have a problem. I didn't problem with the. I don't know why people hate on. They have all the different cuisines that we have here. I don't know.

Drew Franklin (50:26)

We all have to get out of our little comfort zone, try new things. Back to the sec. How about Tuscaloosa?

Friend 3 (50:32)

Oh, that's a, that's a Stevenson story.

Drew Franklin (50:34)

Oh, Tuscaloosa story.

Friend 2 (50:36)

Can I hate on the place that.

Drew Franklin (50:37)

I mean, we got one minute to fire it off.

Friend 2 (50:38)

Okay, well, all right. Well, Buc ee's. We. I love Buc ee's. I love them. I love what they're about. Unfortunately, I, I ate a was egg and cheese sandwich and that biscuit and that ruined my night in Tuscaloosa, so.

Drew Franklin (50:51)

Oh, I remember you on the Rapid Reaction. You weren't feeling that well.

Friend 2 (50:54)

No, no. And I mean, you know, I think if Kentucky would have pulled that off, maybe it would have helped a little bit. But that was, that was a rough night.

Friend 3 (50:59)

He was running to the bathroom in Coleman Coliseum and vomiting everywhere.

Friend 2 (51:03)

It was, it was rough, awful rough.

Friend 3 (51:04)

It was horrible.

Drew Franklin (51:05)

Most of these travel stories backfired. It seems like a lot of negatives.

Friend 2 (51:08)

I did get some cinnamon twist and a drink from Taco Bell and you.

Friend 3 (51:13)

Were like a brand new person.

Friend 2 (51:13)

I know.

Drew Franklin (51:14)

All right, we're running out of time. Jack, you want to come back tomorrow? I didn't get to have my topics. That's kind of what I do.

Friend 3 (51:19)

Yeah.

Drew Franklin (51:19)

All right, we'll run it back with Jack. Gonna have Josh Hopkins join us. A few more other special guests. My my guy, Billy Hobbs from True Blue Customs might pop on, but thank you for listening today to a wild show. We'll be back tomorrow at KS Bar and Grill with a lot more basketball talk. Thanks to Jack, Steven Phoenix and Tianna Key and Jaden Quaintance. Today we had a great show. Talk to you tomorrow.

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