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Shannon The Dude
To hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio here at the KS Bar & Grill Wings Day. They are taking down our little cover for the summer. That means summer is hit.
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Ryan Lemond
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Now you can sit on the patio, hear the or feel the breeze blow. That's how I always know that it is summertime is when they take that down and they don't tell you they're coming. Just all of a sudden they, they don't like you have a service. They put it up and take it down without you knowing. Just all of a sudden it'll be there or it will be gone. And it is being taken down right now.
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Ryan Lemond
It's very appreciative during the cold months but it sure is glad to see it go on the spring and summer months.
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Matt Jones
So that means for for Oaks and Derby you can come here and watch not have to worry about 859-280-2287 Text machine is 772-774-5254 Ask Anything Wednesday by the way, the World War the Memorial Coliseum. That's all people who have been who were killed in World War II from each camp, each county. So it's World War II. So you can go and see and it's literally they have one for, for each county. I like when UK does those things by county. Like I think it's really cool at the baseball stadium they have everybody who played for UK baseball arranged by county. I think it's because this is a state where counties matter. So I actually think that's a cool thing they do.
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Ryan Lemond
And like I said, it was it was inside Memorial Coliseum. That's why they call it Memorial Coliseum. So I'm glad they've incorporated that into the remodel and put those statues out there.
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Matt Jones
Before we go phones, a couple things. First of all, the Reds were rained out today or yesterday. So they're playing a double header today against your Cardinals.
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Ryan Lemond
You going to them?
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Matt Jones
No, I've got, I'm speaking at UK and I got. I got a ton of stuff going on today. So I get. I may actually give away my tickets tonight at the end of the show today if I can. If I can remember. But. But then the ca. My Canes. All right, so I'm in a. I'm in a sports fur are right now. I'm watching the Reds every night. And then the Canes are in the playoffs. They went. They won round two. They had a one timer. Do you know what a one timer is?
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Ryan Lemond
Not really.
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Matt Jones
A one timer is when they make a pass and then the other guy hits it without catching it. So he hits it like he touches it one time. So he doesn't. You know how like I could pass it. You get control and then hit it. Yeah, he just hits it through the pass and Sebastian. Oh, got it. And I went crazy in double overtime last night. It was a lot of fun.
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Drew Franklin
I'm not a big hockey guy. I do know what a one timer is. But that was an absolute rocket of a game winner there in second overtime. And that's your boy Aho. I only know about him from you talking about him, but that was a heck of a way.
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Ryan Lemond
They're showing it up showing right now.
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Matt Jones
So you'll see what you'll see. The one time they. They slashed him in the face. So see, this is one of the things it. You got to be tough to play hockey. Look at this. This hit him right in the face with. With the thing. I mean. Oh, goodness, that's a nasty hit. So it was a four minute penalty. Cuz he got his head slashed open. And then during that was when you did the one timer.
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Drew Franklin
And not just the one timer.
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Matt Jones
They were down. Watch this, watch this. He takes this, then he's going to pass it. Here we go. Boom. There you go.
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Drew Franklin
Down like three. Oh, at one point.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemond
Was that game seven?
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Matt Jones
It was game five. We're already. We're already through. So we move on to the next round. And they play. They'll probably play the Capitals who have Ovechkin, who's probably going to retire at the end of the year. All time leading goal scorer. So I may try to go to a game. It feels like, you know, he's like next to Gretzky, probably the best ever and he's going to retire.
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Ryan Lemond
I knew he was chasing Gretzky's record. Did he break it?
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Matt Jones
He did.
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Ryan Lemond
He did break it.
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Matt Jones
Have you. If you look up Ovechkin now and I. It's amazing. The dude's still really Good, because he looks like a man who's been, like, sleeping in the Arctic for 10 years, and then all of a sudden returns to humanity. He's got, like, gray hair and a gray beard, and he's still out there being an athlete.
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Drew Franklin
I had an. A moment with Ovechkin at a bar many years ago. I think I was in D.C. with you, but I was leaned over a trash can watching SportsCenter, and he was leaned on the other. And I looked up, and he's on SportsCenter. I look at him, and I kind of do a double take, and he hit me with a. Shh. But about 10 minutes later, he got absolutely mob. But there, for a few seconds, we were just a couple boys watching SportsCenter, and he was on the screen.
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Matt Jones
Mississippi State fired their baseball coach this week. Now, I might say, well, why do you care about that? Well, first of all, Kentucky plays at Mississippi State this week, and they didn't pick an interim. So I don't know. I don't know if it's just gonna be chaos. They're gonna just let everybody play baseball, like, just whatever.
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Shannon The Dude
Sandlot.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Shannon The Dude
Just run out to a spot.
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Matt Jones
All right, who wants to bat first, who wants to bat second? But what makes it a bigger deal? Nick Minion has connections there. He. He was in the hunt for him when they hired the last coach, do you think? And he was listed by one of the baseball sites as one of the three finalists. Do you think we could lose the only baseball coach to ever take us to the World Series to Mississippi State?
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Ryan Lemond
I think it's a possibility. I mean, didn't we lose John Cohen to Mississippi State? Is Cohen still the ad? He was the AD There for a while. So, yeah, there's definitely some Kentucky pipeline to Mississippi State in baseball, but I think it's. Answer your question. Yes, I think it's a possibility.
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Matt Jones
Now, we. We. We just signed him to a new deal that includes a huge buyout. So, like, Mississippi State, I think it's over a million dollars, which, for a baseball coach, would be a lot of money. You know, we had. We did lose our last really good baseball coach to Mississippi State. Mississippi State has a history of being good at baseball. They care. If you were Mitch Barnhart, would you try to do what you had to do to keep. To keep Minji owned? He's on pace to make the. To make the tournament again.
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Drew Franklin
If I'm Barnhart, I make this trip to Starkville with them, and I don't let him out of my sight. No. No random meetings While you're in town, stay away from my coach. I completely get why he's on the list. I just. He seems so happy here, and this is kind of something he's built. The only coach that's played in that stadium just had him in Omaha last year. I think it would be hard for him to leave, but of all jobs for him to consider, I would understand this one.
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Matt Jones
You do also have to consider if you're a baseball coach, the nil situation. Mississippi State is a place where I'm going to guess their baseball is going to get more nil than ours. You know, our basketball program is going to take a big chunk. Everybody's football program has to take a big chunk. But I could see Mississippi State saying, you know what? We'll sacrifice our basketball for our baseball, which is not going to be something we're going to do here. So I could see that playing a role.
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Ryan Lemond
Absolutely. Baseball is just bigger in some places in the south, and one of the places is Mississippi State. So, you know, they've been perennial power for 30 years. So I can see why he would be looking into that job if it comes to that.
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Drew Franklin
And as much as we love Kentucky Proud Park, Mississippi State Stadium, whatever it's called, it's in another league. I've never been for a game, but I've walked by it several times. They probably have the best facility in the entire conference.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, they do. Who's up next? Shannon.
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Drew Franklin
Mark.
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Matt Jones
Mark, go ahead. Mark. Mark. Hey, Matt. Yes, go ahead. Hello.
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Drew Franklin
Hey.
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Matt Jones
So of all stories in 2025, it.
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Caller
Did not think that Bill Belichick having.
- [10:15]
Matt Jones
The Yoko owner of football would be the one that I would see. Yeah, it's a big deal, man. I, like, I can't. There's a New York Times story about it today. About Belichick and the girl, the interview.
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Ryan Lemond
Or just about them?
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Matt Jones
No, just about them. The story is that Hard Knocks, you know, Hard Knocks was going to come, that she put the kibosh on that, too.
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Drew Franklin
Like they were about to film.
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Matt Jones
They were about to film, and I. And that, you know, the rumor is that she wanted it to also be about them, like their personal life, and they were gonna stick to football. But I don't know, man. Like, it feels like that interview completely flipped everybody's view on everything. Right? Like, she put out. She put out. She put out a picture of the book he signed in 2021. Did you see that? So, remember, the thing was, they met and he signed her book.
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Ryan Lemond
Right.
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Matt Jones
She put that out yesterday on Instagram, which makes me Think, well, why didn't you just say it? I don't know, man. I know it's ridiculous for me to be. To care about it, but I kind of do. Drew. I'm not gonna lie to you. I can't help but be fast.
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Drew Franklin
It's everywhere. If you want to ignore it, if you read anything, any sports websites, they're all talking about it. One I saw, I don't know if it was the Athletic. I read a couple this morning, but it said one of the problems with Hard Knocks is she wanted to be named as a producer. And they're like, you have no experience. We're hbo. No, you cannot be the executive producer.
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Matt Jones
That's right.
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Drew Franklin
She wanted to be a producer on Hard Knocks.
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Matt Jones
That's really funny that she. I mean, it's in the New York Times, right? It's in the New York Times. Like. Like, there's a couple. There's some women here. Like, are you all. Are you all fascinated by the story? You don't know anything about it. How do you not know anything about it? First of all, now, I know you don't listen to this show. Okay, so. So we'll start with that. I know you don't listen to the show. Now, now, how could you not? I mean, I don't know. It's just the whole thing of, like, where do you stand on. On the relationship? And is she controlling? I think people. And is he, like. What is he like in his normal faculties?
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Ryan Lemond
Yes, that's the big question. I mean, it's not just a sports story anymore. It's become a news story. And I think more people are starting to center on, is he incompetent?
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Matt Jones
But when he talks about football, he seems fine.
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Ryan Lemond
Seems absolutely fine.
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Matt Jones
He seems absolutely fine. So I. I kind of think. I kind of think the Izzy incompetent is a little bit of a cop out. Like, dude's just choosing Shannon to be with this woman. You know what I mean? I think that it's a little bit of a cop out to act like he's all of a sudden lost his mind.
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Shannon The Dude
He's still got his football mind about him and, you know, a little extracurricular activity, too, on the side. So I think that's. That's the problem.
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Matt Jones
I think that that is. That is certainly what's happening. Who's next?
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Shannon The Dude
Let's go to Gabe.
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Matt Jones
Gabe. Go ahead, Gabe. So I know you guys have talked about. Or. I. I don't know if you've talked about this yet, and if you have, I apologize, but, like, how cool was it to see all of the extended footage and the love that OVW and.
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Caller
Historic Davis arena got at the night one main event of WrestleMania?
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Matt Jones
Very cool, very cool. You know, we appreciate the call for people who didn't see in night one of WrestleMania in the lead up, they showed a lot of OVW stuff. And you know, listen, I put, I've put four years of a lot of work into that. You know, we're actually making the transition to the new ownership group this week. Honestly, it transitions tomorrow. I'm still going to be involved as a minority owner, but I won't be like making day to day decisions anymore. And, and you know, it is cool to see them. I mean, that, that, that whole enterprise has been a really like, awesome part of my life. From doing the Netflix show to getting to know all those people. I mean, cash flow, let me just use cash flow. They're filming season three of, of, of. Of Tulsa King right now. But then they're filming, they're doing four more seasons. So he's spending the next two years of his life filming Tulsa King. He's doing three, four, five, and six. I mean, this was a dude who's just lived in Bullet county, right? And now all of a sudden, he is a regular on a Sylvester Stallone television show. That's awesome. Haley. Every week is wrestling somewhere around the world. Like she's gotten, her career has kind of blossomed from it. So it's, it's been, it's. And then watching it on, you know, I have to admit, like, literally I'm going to Louisville tomorrow and we're kind of doing the final transition. And I'm a little, I would say melancholy because this is what needs to happen because I'm, I can't do it anymore. It's too busy. But, but you can't.
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Ryan Lemond
Like a labor of love for you.
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Matt Jones
Labor of love. Like, it was not. We did it kind of as a. It, you know, it was in a bad spot when we took it in. It was probably very close to closing and, and now, you know, we're able to get a new ownership group in there that I think is going to make it a thing in Europe, which is awesome. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's been fun, but it's also, you know, it's like when I sold OV or when I sold ksr, I was right up in that room right there. Drew was there in the office. This was fall of 2020. When we sold it, I cried. I mean, financially, it was Going to change my life for the positive.
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Ryan Lemond
That's your baby, though.
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Matt Jones
But like it had been with me every day since 2005 and to just sign it over, it was like so won't be quite like that because I'm not, you know, Al and them are the ones that do it all the time. But it is a little, you know, it's a little sad.
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Ryan Lemond
I, I know why you're talking ovw. I did want to ask you how did the cash flow cast? I was going to bring up experience goal.
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Drew Franklin
He looked awesome in the clip I saw.
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Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Let me tell you something. That dude is going to be, if he, if he stays committed to it, he's going to be a star in wrestling. Not like he is going to be a star because he, not only can he talk, not only does it, but he can like as they say in wrestling, he can work. You know, I had one of the trainers say to me, dude's got as much potential as anybody we've had here in a decade. Wow. And that's the truth. If he, if he wants to do it. And I said that to him. After the interview, I went outside and I was like, man, this is yours for the taking if you want it. And I feel like he does, so I hope it works out.
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Drew Franklin
He looked like a natural in that match last week to be his first match in an arena. Was he the main event?
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Matt Jones
I think, yeah.
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Drew Franklin
I mean he, he looked like a dude.
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Matt Jones
Act like, like I'm an expert, Shannon, because I, you know, I, I, I've never, I don't wrestle, etc. But I've been around now for four or five years and Shannon, you've been around longer than that. Yeah, you can see when a dude's got it or not.
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Shannon The Dude
Yeah, he's got the natural ability. Yeah. And that was a quick match too. That was under a minute. So, you know, probably smart booking there, but, but yeah, he looks great.
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Matt Jones
Shannon's waiting for the moment when he gets a piece of it.
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Shannon The Dude
That's right.
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Matt Jones
I cuz I'm gonna laugh.
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Shannon The Dude
We're at Waterfront park, by the way. Tomorrow for anybody, we are at Waterfront Park.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I missed it.
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Shannon The Dude
Slash what?
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Ryan Lemond
That disclaimer is a little ridiculous.
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Matt Jones
The disclaimer is as long as the copy. We'll be right back.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back. It is Kentucky Sports Radio 859-280-287 here at KS Bar and Grill. It is wings day. Come on in. Dollar wings. Throughout the day and night, one person writes. Matt, now that you sold it, would you be in season two of wrestlers as part of the contract actually do have to be in season two if they have it. So I don't know how that would work but they, I think I'm just, I was an easy bad guy for. So I think they would, I think they would find a way let you wrestle cash.
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Shannon The Dude
That's how we'll put.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, maybe that, maybe it'll be teaching me to wrestle that we can be season two.
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Drew Franklin
Now that you're not the boss, you could hang out with them at the Holiday Inn bar where they all hang down after fighting. You could just be one of the guys.
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Matt Jones
The Holiday Inn bar is a something else now. If you want to see some sites, go to the holiday in bar on a Thursday night after the show.
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Drew Franklin
Be in season two.
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Matt Jones
You, you will, you'll see that one person writes. Matt, was there ever a time that you knew you're in Cal's relationship was going bad and did you try to stop it? Yeah, for sure. I mean it started going bad the COVID year or the year we played. Right. So that was 2020, 2021. We were obviously very critical on here and because the team was terrible. And then there was a night where Dwayne Peavey said, hey, let's get you and Cal on the phone. Let's see if we can make this better. And I had a conversation with him and it just, it didn't go particularly well. I mean, he kind of said, you know, to be fair to him, his view was, look, we've had a good relationship. I've been good to you. Like, you know, you should, you should take up for me. And I said, I do take up for you, but we're 6 and 13. Like I can't go. I can't at 6 and 13 go, hey, things are great. And I said, you know, I'm of more help to you if people think I'm unbiased. And he just didn't like that answer. And then we had one more conversation when the season ended that was a little more positive, but still was not great. And then we never really talked again. There were people that would try to put us into connection over the next couple years, and I was always willing to do it. That was what frustrated me towards the end. Does everybody go, matt, why don't you try to reach out? I. I probably had five different people say, I'd like to put you and Cal in a room, or, let's you and Kyle talk? I said I would do it every single time. And it just didn't happen. So it. Listen, it made me sad. Like, we've taken a lot we've enjoyed in the last year going, hey, thanks, Tyson Chicken, for coming and getting him and all. As that relationship broke apart, it made me really sad. It did, because he'd been a big part of my existence for a decade. But, you know, at the end of the day, he's gonna leave one day. And keeping my relationship with the audience and where the audience can have trust with me is more important. You know, I'll be honest with you. I felt. I was. Felt the same thing kind of happening. My relationship with Mark Stoops is still positive, but if they have a bad year, same thing might happen this year, you know? And I have made a personal decision whether this. I thought a lot about this when I was in Europe last summer. I've made a personal decision that, like, I'm not becoming friends with any more of these folks. And it's nothing personal. It's just. It's hard to be objective when you. When you have a personal relationship with somebody. So I owe it to this job to not become, like, good friends with the people doing it.
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Ryan Lemond
I don't care if I ask you this, but I'm gonna ask you now anyway. Do you think if Dwayne Peavey had stayed, he would help but not.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, but there was gonna come a point that if he kept losing, there was nothing I could do. You know, if Dwayne stayed, maybe the relationship with Cal and I would have been better for, like, one more year. But, like, once you lose to St. Peter's you lose to St. Peter's once you lose to Oakland, you lose to Oakland. Like, what are you gonna do? I mean, nothing else you can do, but it is tough. I mean, it's tough. It's. It's it's hard when you've had really positive relationships with somebody Drew to say, this person needs to go. But that's our job, right?
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Drew Franklin
Got a job to do the. That 20, 20, 20, 21 year. It's hard to say. I mean, when you lose to Richmond in Rupp Arena, I mean, what are we supposed to say on the radio? Well, we'll get them next time.
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Matt Jones
UNC Wilmington. Was that what it was?
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Drew Franklin
It was Richmond.
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Matt Jones
We lose to Richmond as well. We did. That's right.
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Drew Franklin
Georgia Tech. Right after that, I think it was Richmond.
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Ryan Lemond
Georgia Tech back to back with Josh Pastner, his assistant.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah. I mean, what are we supposed to.
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Matt Jones
Say, you know, Remember I was supposed to go on ESPN during the Georgia Tech game. I was supposed to go on ESPN and like we were going to be playful and whatever. And we were down 3:35 points. And I said, I called Jimmy Dykes at halftime. I was like, I can't come on here and be playful. And he goes, what do you mean? I'm like, we're down 35 points. You realize if I come on there and be playful, my fans are going to get. And I turned down going on espn cuz. Remember he had that baseball player was it who was on the first half play for the Yankees. He had gone to Georgia Tech.
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Drew Franklin
I'm with you. I can't think of the name.
- [26:21]
Matt Jones
And then I was supposed to be on the second half. I was like, I can't come with damn 30. What do you want me to do?
- [26:25]
Drew Franklin
Richmond, Georgia Tech and Notre Dame were consecutive. I think, looking back.
- [26:29]
Matt Jones
Remember, missed the game winning shot and.
- [26:31]
Ryan Lemond
Three or four of those, the Notre Dame game.
- [26:33]
Matt Jones
So, I mean, Ryan, you've been friends with them over the years. You know, it's hard.
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Ryan Lemond
It is hard. And you know, they teach you back in broadcasting school, don't be friends with your coaches, the people you're going to cover, because as you just witnessed, it kind of can come back and bite you on the butt sometimes.
- [26:46]
Matt Jones
The only two people here that I've been like actual friends with is Dwayne Peavey and Vince, Cal and Stoops. We've had good relationships, but I wouldn't say we're friends. They're not inviting me to their weddings, right? But. And I love Vince. I mean, Vince is my guy. He'll always be my guy. But after Vince, I'm not coming friends with anybody.
- [27:09]
Drew Franklin
Get away from me.
- [27:10]
Matt Jones
You know, you're too close. No. New friend.
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Kentucky Sports Radio, presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.
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Matt Jones
Welcome back, Techie Sports Radio. 859-280-2287. Text machine. 772-774-5254. One person writes text machine. Matt, you are journalists, but Cal Perry did supercharge your career. You should remember that. Of course that's true. But here's what I feel like. It's like Brian Windhorse, the guy on ESPN with LeBron. Yeah, right. So LeBron made Brian Windhorse career, Cal. In some ways. Not every way, but in some ways helped make my career. With that said, though, Brian Winhorse can't spend the rest of his time in the NBA not criticizing LeBron. It would make it look he wouldn't have any credibility if he did that. I heard him talking about it because, you know, LeBron took a shot at him a few weeks ago and I liked what he said. He said, LeBron doesn't owe me anything, but I still have to do my job. And he's exactly right about that.
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Ryan Lemond
We can't be sunshine pumpers when it's not justified. I mean, we wouldn't be doing our job if we weren't. We're. We're fans as much as anything. We hurt when our team does. Doesn't do well. We have to act that way.
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Matt Jones
One person writes, I'd like to know from the three of you guys that deal with the players, who was your favorite player to deal with off the court in your time you've been doing it. Ron, you go first. Who's your favorite player UK off the court?
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Ryan Lemond
You mean while they were playing or.
- [28:47]
Matt Jones
While they were playing? While they were playing.
- [28:50]
Ryan Lemond
That's a great question. Well, I, you know, already had a relationship with Walter McCarty. Knowing him from Evansville when I first got here, he was good kind of dish. We kind of had that vibe. We're both from Evansville area. Most of my guys I really got friendly with afterwards. I always kind of connected with the. The bench players. JP Blevins, believe it or not.
- [29:10]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I know. You go to his speakeas.
- [29:11]
Ryan Lemond
Yep. Steve Masiello, Brandon Stockton, you know those guys, you kind of relate to them a little bit better.
- [29:18]
Matt Jones
Mine before I go to Drew Wukash. Yeah, Wukash was always Wukash. And I became and still consider him a good friend. Rommel Bradley, I still consider a good friend. And then while they were here, I really, really like jorts and I really like DeMarcus. I think those were the two. But those guys I knew While they were here. But Wukash and Ramel, for me, were the two that I had the best connection to. What about you?
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Drew Franklin
Demarcus. But a lot of that was built after he left. I got to know him a little better in his NBA years. Nothing. The Bahamas trip. I mean, anyone on those teams, seriously, I'll know. I'll never know players better than I know.
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Matt Jones
There's a little. There's a little bit with 2015 group where when you see them, we are like, yeah, you know, like, even the ones that were quiet, like the Harrison twins, there's a little bit like, we've.
- [30:18]
Drew Franklin
Been through it together, man.
- [30:19]
Matt Jones
The Bahamas were something, weren't they, Willie?
- [30:22]
Drew Franklin
I knew Carl really well. Even not just the Bahamas, that helped. But, like, we were doing the air shots. Carl did a lot of events. When he did his signing tour, I was taking pictures of one of them. So I knew Carl really well. One time, I was at a wedding in Cancun, and I get a DM from Devin Booker. He's like, you're in Cancun. I'm in Cancun. What's up? And at this point, he's with the Suns. And I'm thinking, why is Devin Booker writing me? But it all goes back to that Bahamas trip. Everybody got to know each other.
- [30:47]
Matt Jones
And even the second one was a little bit like that.
- [30:49]
Drew Franklin
But the first one was really on the first.
- [30:51]
Matt Jones
The first one, Willie, if you want a documentary about Kentucky basketball, that would be fun. The two best documentaries you could do on Kentucky sports. The Billy Gillespie era.
- [31:03]
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Like a 30 for 30 on the two years. The Billy Gillespie era would be amazing. And then that 2015, 2014 Bahamas trip where the staff. There was no rules. Now they put some rules into place. A few years later, I think they.
- [31:19]
Drew Franklin
Learned they had security.
- [31:21]
Matt Jones
But that first time, it was.
- [31:23]
Drew Franklin
And like, Willie, he was injured, so he didn't have a curfew. I mean, we've told these stories, even with Willie, but it was. I'd be playing blackjack in the middle of night, and look up, there's Willie. He's still around here. So we just got to know him more than we'd ever know them. Doing interview.
- [31:35]
Matt Jones
All I know about Willie is Willie put a lot of stuff on a tab. I don't know who paid the tab.
- [31:41]
Drew Franklin
I know some details on this. They asked me to pay it. I was like, heck, no, I'm not paying your debt.
- [31:46]
Matt Jones
Who's up next?
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Shannon The Dude
Chris.
- [31:47]
Matt Jones
Chris. Go ahead, Chris.
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Caller
Yeah. I got two questions for you. First question is, where do you see the biggest change in college athletics over the next 10 years, whether that's tournament wise, conference wise. Just what do you all see as far as that? And then the second question is the burning question going around the Internet right now with the 100 men versus an.
- [32:12]
Matt Jones
Eight, what's your strong feelings? 100 men versus a gorilla. It feels like everybody's talking about that now. I mean, there is an amount of men that would kill a gorilla. So the only question is, is it a hundred? I feel like a hundred. If you just take 100 people off the street, then I'm going gorilla. But if you take a hundred people that can fight, then I'm taking people. So, like, if you just look at this bar, if you just take all of us, we're done, toast, we're out. But if you were to take like a hundred big fighting people, like defensive linemen. Yeah. Then I, then I think I would take the people.
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Ryan Lemond
I think that's, that's, that's the key. You got to have some big guys that kind of hold that grill down. But I just hope I'm not ever going to be.
- [33:03]
Matt Jones
But I will say, like, the first 10 people, you're a sacrificial.
- [33:06]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah.
- [33:07]
Matt Jones
Like, you just.
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Shannon The Dude
Well, there's got to be a front line in this.
- [33:09]
Matt Jones
The front line. You're out. You know, you guys are in trouble. Biggest change coming in college sports, in my opinion, obviously, is the. Is the payment system. But I honestly think in the next year, Congress. Well, here's what we have to do. I don't care whether you love Trump or don't like Trump. I think everybody would agree it's been a chaotic hundred days. There's going to be another chaotic 50 to 100 days. But then things are going to settle down because Congress, people are going to start to get ready for reelection. Right. So, like, all of a sudden, the world is going to stabilize a little bit. When that happens, I think college athletic legislation becomes something that will get passed. Passed. It's a bipartisan effort. It's the kind of thing that'll get passed. It's the kind of thing Trump, I think, would like to be able to say, I saved college sports. That feels like the kind of thing he would enjoy saying. So I do think it happens. The devil's gonna be in the details of what that legislation looks like. If it looks like I want it to look and the way that it seems like Cory Booker and Ted Cruz want it to look, then I think college sports will be in a good place. And it can start to stabilize. But this next, I'm going to assume we're going to still have chaos through about July, but then this fall, I think they will create the future of college athletics, and we'll see what it ends up being.
- [34:36]
Drew Franklin
Drew, have they did the House thing that was supposed to get done just in the last week?
- [34:41]
Matt Jones
Judge postponed the settlement. The judge basically said, I'm fine with this settlement, but you can't take scholarships away from the kids that are in school now. So they went to the parties and said, fix that part and then come back to me. And I think they have another week to fix it, so we'll see what ends up happening. But it looked like to me, in reading the arguments, that they will end up. But that settlement only applies to past players. What we're worried about is the future, and the future is going to need congressional legislation. It cannot be done legally without congressional legislation, in my opinion.
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Ryan Lemond
You keep us posted on that, will you?
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Matt Jones
Is that not your read on it?
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Greenlight Representative
Yeah.
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Ryan Lemond
No. I enjoy hearing your thoughts about it. Keeps me up to date on what's going on.
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Matt Jones
But you don't. You don't do any analysis yourself?
- [35:28]
Ryan Lemond
No, I think it's all for the better. And you.
- [35:30]
Matt Jones
It's all for the better? Yeah. What. Yeah. What is all for the better?
- [35:33]
Ryan Lemond
Just, you know, clean up this mess. We're in this nil mess. They're going to make some legislation to.
- [35:37]
Matt Jones
Kind of have some specifics of what you think is going to happen.
- [35:40]
Ryan Lemond
I would like to. I would like to think there's going to be some sort of salary cap.
- [35:43]
Matt Jones
But you cannot have a salary cap unless Congress waives the antitrust clause. So people. So people don't know. Colleges cannot collude and say, we're not going to pay anymore. That will be against the law. So the only way you can do that is Congress does what they did with baseball, which says, we're going to create an exception for this industry, and Congress has to do that. That's why we have to have the bill. If we don't have the bill, you cannot have a salary.
- [36:10]
Drew Franklin
I don't understand. When you have the salary cap and the payouts of the 25 million, how can you tell them they still can't go to Clark's Pumping Shop and just get a ton of money to throw on a T shirt?
- [36:20]
Matt Jones
You can't. But you could make it to where the NCAA has complete enforcement power to say, you have to be doing the work that's worth the money you're getting. Because right now, the Courts have said the NCAA can't even do that. So you know, you, you got to have legislation. And I think, by the way, both parties, Democrats and Republicans, agree with that. The devil is just in the details of how you do it.
- [36:46]
Ryan Lemond
So when's it going to happen?
- [36:48]
Matt Jones
I think I said this fall, after the next hundred days.
- [36:54]
Ryan Lemond
Well, keep me posted.
- [36:55]
Drew Franklin
Remember, there's already been 100 days that have been a little hectic, little chaos. There's going to be a 50.
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Matt Jones
And then I think I heard that.
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Drew Franklin
On KSR this morning.
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Matt Jones
The cornbread hemp. The, the seltzers, the THC seltzers are like they're flying off the shelf.
- [37:12]
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
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Matt Jones
But they're back on the shelves. We may end up having them at this bar for a little while.
- [37:17]
Ryan Lemond
May, they probably won't last long there either.
- [37:19]
Matt Jones
So. But not yet. But may. We'll see. But Cornbread Hemp promo code KSR for the hemp gummies. Check out, go to one of your stores and do the Seltzers. I have friends who, who have, who have drank those regularly who say like it's their favorite thing. So check them out. Cornbread Hemp and the Cornbread Hemp Seltzer. We'll take a break. Be right back. It's Kentucky Sports Race.
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Matt Jones
Final segment here, Kentucky Sports Radio Text Machine. 772-774-5254. The moment the show ends. Okay. You have till from 11:57 to 12:00 to write the text machine, if you will. If you will give me your. All I need from you is the UK player that you liked the most. Okay. The UK player you like the most. I'm gonna ask Mario after the show. Who is the uk. Well, sorry, you want to write the UK player you think Mario like the most. All right, so Mario's favorite UK player. I'm gonna ask him after the show all time. If you get it right and then you put your email address in the text. The first person that gets it right, I'm gonna give tickets to my. For the Reds game tonight.
- [40:31]
Ryan Lemond
Nice.
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Matt Jones
So you. All you have to do is put who you think Mario will say is the best is his favorite player and your email address. If you have the right player and don't have your email address, then you. Then you don't get it because I will write the first person and give you my Reds tickets tonight. It's like eighth row, right behind home plate. Perfect tickets. But wait till the show ends. Don't give it right now. And all you're doing is sending the name and your email address of who. And I don't even know what Mario's gonna say. I will ask him as soon as the show.
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Drew Franklin
Should the winner get a copy of all fours to take to the game.
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Matt Jones
A lot of you who have read the book say Matt didn't think it would be your kind of book. Not saying it is my kind of book. I just think it's. I think it's good. But you got to think also with Mario, how old he is.
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Ryan Lemond
Yep.
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Matt Jones
Right. So don't you want. You don't want to guess, Cotton Ash? I don't think. You never know. Mario. JT's favorite player.
- [41:29]
Ryan Lemond
That's right. Sure was. Rest in peace, JT.
- [41:31]
Matt Jones
Club Blue is the official nil fundraising partner of the University of Kentucky and they're proud to introduce Club Blue Kids.
- [41:38]
Ryan Lemond
Tell me about it.
- [41:39]
Matt Jones
It's a club for young UK fans. You get perks. Like an official UK Club Blue Kids T shirt.
- [41:46]
Ryan Lemond
Cool.
- [41:47]
Matt Jones
That's kind of neat. A membership card for your kid with the lanyard and a chance to have exclusive athlete experiences for your children. Very cool idea. I didn't even know they were doing this. Club Blue Kids learn more@clubbluenil.com for Club Blue Kids. That's good. They need to do one of those for kids. I think the parents have to pay. I don't know if the kids. We're not trying to take the kids. Piggy bank. What? Their allowance for this.clubbluenil.com. they are getting rid of the penny. We've talked about that.
- [42:19]
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
- [42:20]
Matt Jones
Congress is going to make the legislation. Apparently now it costs 4 cents to make a penny. There are some people arguing. They're trying to figure out what is the date that people should have to turn their pennies in.
- [42:33]
Ryan Lemond
Yes.
- [42:34]
Matt Jones
Okay, so how long. Let's say we make the penny ban tomorrow. How long should we have people have to. Where? They have to go to the bank and turn their penny in tomorrow.
- [42:49]
Ryan Lemond
I'm just.
- [42:49]
Drew Franklin
Get him out of here.
- [42:50]
Ryan Lemond
I'm gonna say it's gonna cause the log jam. I'm gonna give him a year.
- [42:54]
Matt Jones
A year.
- [42:55]
Ryan Lemond
I'll give him a year.
- [42:56]
Matt Jones
Do you have pennies?
- [42:57]
Ryan Lemond
I have a jar full pennies in my house.
- [42:59]
Matt Jones
So you're going to go to. You'll go turn them?
- [43:01]
Ryan Lemond
Absolutely.
- [43:02]
Matt Jones
How long do you think you should get?
- [43:05]
Drew Franklin
I'll say six months. For all the. All the Ryan's that have jars of pennies.
- [43:08]
Matt Jones
Can you imagine how awful it would be to work at a bank and just see person after person come in with their jar pennies and want nickels?
- [43:15]
Drew Franklin
There's your $3.25.
- [43:17]
Matt Jones
Oh, my gosh, Shannon. That would be awful, wouldn't it? Just sit there and deal with the pennies forever.
- [43:22]
Shannon The Dude
A lot of banks have machines, though, that can kind of, you know, give you a dollar.
- [43:26]
Matt Jones
All these people walk in carrying all these.
- [43:28]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, yeah. Big milk jugs full of pennies.
- [43:31]
Drew Franklin
What are we gonna do with all the old pennies?
- [43:34]
Matt Jones
They're gonna melt them down to whatever they're made of. The government. I mean, the government Gets to take it. Right. Like the government kind of owns that, whatever it is it's made of. And then they can do the statue of Trump. I just got that. Like life size. Yeah, yeah. So there you go. That. That's going to happen. The penny. I think the legislation is being drawn up and I think everybody's going to. Nobody wants the penny, so.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I can't remember my last penny. They usually end up in the trash or somewhere.
- [44:06]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Who's up next?
- [44:07]
Shannon The Dude
Mickey.
- [44:08]
Matt Jones
Mickey, how are you, Mickey? Hey, how's it going, Matt? Doing good. Hey, I got a question for the athletic minded people out there.
- [44:18]
Ryan Lemond
All right.
- [44:19]
Matt Jones
Ryan and Drew. Excuse me. Hey, you guys gonna be here in Owensboro on Friday? Next Friday? Yes. If you decide you want to play a little pickleball. I don't. Give us a call. Oh, you don't? No. Oh, my gosh. All right, well, if you decide you want to on Thursday or Friday, give us a call and we'll get you out there. We'll even let Matt combine watch. Yeah, that's not gonna do that. I appreciate balls.
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Shannon The Dude
We'll be there.
- [44:51]
Matt Jones
But she. We're going to Owensboro week from Friday. Be nice to go out there. Haven't done a show there in a couple years, so. Looking forward to it.
- [44:57]
Ryan Lemond
I hear a rumor we may be getting facials. Is that.
- [45:01]
Matt Jones
Yes, they are giving us facials. I think.
- [45:04]
Drew Franklin
Signed up for one.
- [45:05]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [45:05]
Ryan Lemond
I'm excited that we all get facials.
- [45:07]
Drew Franklin
While we're over there.
- [45:07]
Matt Jones
Never had a facial before.
- [45:08]
Ryan Lemond
Never. Yeah, I don't even know what they do enough in a facial.
- [45:11]
Matt Jones
Well, make sure you get the right kind.
- [45:14]
Drew Franklin
Make sure you go to the skin.
- [45:15]
Matt Jones
There are other kind of facials you don't. You don't want to get. Who's up next?
- [45:18]
Shannon The Dude
Let's go to Luke.
- [45:19]
Matt Jones
Luke, what's up, Luke? Hey, Matt, real quick. Since caller had asked about finals and everything, I was just wondering what Professor Matt Jones, if he gave a final or what. Yeah, I give finals. Mario actually moderated my final this year. Yeah, at Georgetown. I write a final exam.
- [45:41]
Ryan Lemond
And didn't Billy do it last year?
- [45:43]
Matt Jones
Billy's done it for me before too, because we always end up on our trip across the country during it. So. So yeah, I'll give a final exam. I appreciate the call. I'm. I know I'm a hard teacher, but I give easy grades, so I make them do a lot of work. But then when it comes down to it, I'm kind of a softy and I don't want to fail. Anybody.
- [46:00]
Drew Franklin
So you take it very seriously with your final.
- [46:02]
Matt Jones
I do. I'm taking next fall off because I have to be in. I'm going to South Africa for three weeks and so I would have to miss so much. I'm taking next fall off from teaching. But one do one more. Who's next? Shannon.
- [46:12]
Shannon The Dude
All right, let's go to Jacob.
- [46:13]
Matt Jones
Jacob, go ahead, Jacob. Hi.
- [46:16]
Caller
Good morning, everyone. I just want to thank you all for an incredible year. It's been so much fun following along and listening in during this past basketball season. Like, I've been more invested in this past season than I have been in years. And as much as I love all your insight and takes on Kentucky sports, frankly, my favorite part of the show is just the stories and interactions among the hosts. And at times, I can tend to forget that I'm listening to a radio show versus getting listening to a group of, like, longtime friends as I talk about life and sports. And lastly, and briefly, it's been a rough past few weeks personally with uncertainty at work and not knowing if or when I and my team might be laid off. So the highlight of my day has been listening into the podcast each evening. And you never know what the topics might be, from, like, portal news to getting to listen to Ryan trying out jokes for his talk engineering conference. I just want to thank you all so much.
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Matt Jones
Very, very kind of you to say. And, you know, whatever you're going through, I'll say a prayer for you tonight. I appreciate it. That's very, very nice. See, isn't that a very nice conversation? So you, you're in this suit. Yeah.
- [47:21]
Ryan Lemond
Looking dapper.
- [47:22]
Matt Jones
Now that you have a suit on, what are you going to do for the rest of the day?
- [47:25]
Ryan Lemond
I'm immediately going home and taking it off immediately.
- [47:29]
Matt Jones
Wouldn't this be a good time, though, to do some realtor stuff and maybe to look professional around town, be seen? You know, the market's hot, according to a commercial.
- [47:37]
Ryan Lemond
Well, it is a good time to buy, so we can help you. That was Dr. Mortgage. Now I gotta go get my oil change, so I'm not gonna wear this to get my oil change. Hey, I'm gonna put on some shorts and some flip flops.
- [47:47]
Matt Jones
Are you, by the way, Josiah, about to graduate? Yeah. Separation's coming. Are you feeling it at the moment?
- [47:55]
Ryan Lemond
I'm kind of looking forward to it, but I know the week he leaves, I'll be like, oh, man, this house is really empty.
- [48:00]
Drew Franklin
Most people get sad.
- [48:01]
Matt Jones
Wait a minute. You're looking forward to your kid getting out?
- [48:04]
Ryan Lemond
I've had a kid in my house for 27 years. It'll be my first time in 27 years I've not had a kid there.
- [48:10]
Matt Jones
Should be all alone.
- [48:11]
Ryan Lemond
Yeah, that'll probably hit me. Yeah, I got the three dogs in the pool and maybe I'll have a lot of pool parties.
- [48:17]
Drew Franklin
Tom Bryant and the football team will.
- [48:19]
Matt Jones
Still be over there. That's good. Thank you folks very much. Remember we got dollar wings all day. We will be in Louisville on Friday but we are also here again tomorrow. Thanks to all you folks who made the the trip here is nice to see everybody. We will see you later. This has been Kentucky Sports Radio.
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Matt Jones
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Greenlight Representative
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Matt Jones
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Greenlight Representative
This message comes from Greenlight. Ready to start talking to your kids about financial literacy? Meet Greenlight, the debit card and money app that teaches kids and teens how to earn, save, spend wisely and invest with your guardrails in place. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance, and keep an eye on what your kids are spending with real time notifications. Join millions of parents and kids building healthy financial habits together on Greenlight. Get started risk free@greenlight.com iheart there's an efficient way to get caught up on a lot of news. It's called the seven from the Washington Post. It's a newsletter and podcast. Whether you're reading or hit play, you get seven stories you need to know and you can consume it all in just a few minutes. The 7 is out every weekday morning by 7:00am Eastern. I'm Hannah Jewell. I'm one of the writers and I host the show Find the seven Podcast. Wherever you're listening, the newsletter link is waiting for you in the show notes.